The Holistic Horsemanship and Husbandry Podcast

The Holistic Horsemanship and Husbandry Podcast

Welcome to The Holistic Horsemanship and Husbandry Podcast where your hosts, Laura & Cindy are coming together to alchemize hearts and horses for a more connected life. We're two horsewomen from vastly different backgrounds, united by our profound experiences with horses and the life lessons they've taught us. Our goal for this podcast is to empower you to look beneath the surface of your horsemanship journey to find a deeper connection, more meaning, and more confidence to do whatever you dream of with your equine. If you've ever felt like there's more to life with horses than what you currently see working with your trainer, at clinics, and in the day-to-day with your horse, you're absolutely right. There's a profound connection with these animals that can truly transform your life - an energetic world that you can't see, but it's very much alive. When you learn to tap into it, you achieve a level of potential beyond what you can imagine. "Spiritually Empowered Horsemanship" is for the heart-driven horse enthusiast seeking to work within that energetic world that we can't see. Whether you're a seasoned equestrian or new to horses, this podcast will inspire you to see your horsemanship journey in a new light. Join us every 2nd and 4th Tuesday of the month as we share insights into navigating your relationship with your horse, mindful riding practices, trusting your intuition in horse training and horse husbandry, and embracing an imperfect journey towards a deeper connection with yourself and your equine. Each episode seeks to enrich your knowledge, ignite your imagination, and deepen your awareness.

Episodes

September 8, 2026 45 mins

In this episode, we chat about life at Heart Soul Ranch. We catch up on everything going on since the move, and Cindy discusses the foundation of the new direction she is taking her business... learning to see behavior as information. 

Whenever our horses act out or behave oddly, it's because they are trying to tell us something. 

We dive deep into this subject in this episode. 

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In this episode, we talk about how to be an awesome client for your farrier or barefoot trimmer. It's not about having a horse that stands perfectly every time. It's about being honest, present, and willing to work with the horse that shows up that day. 

We talk about the responsibilities of the hoof care pro, the responsibilities of the client, and how we can best support any horse as we work together to create a safe, efficie...

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In this episode, we talk about how working with a mentor can help you reach the next level with your horse. 

We talk about finding a good training program, what it looks like to put in that time, and why sending your horse off to a trainer rarely results in long-term results. 

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In this episode, we sat down with Jamie Watkins, the co-founder of Symbiotic Integrated Mirroring. She led us in an incredible discussion about cranial sacral therapy and the power it can have when we allow the horse to lead the session. 

Jamie and her fellow practitioners travel the ...

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In this episode, we discuss what it truly looks like to become the number one expert on your horse. 

In an industry where tradition is followed blindly, and years of experience often trump science, this is a must-listen-to episode for any horse owner. 

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Connect With Adam: https://www.bayareahorsearchers.com/

Adam Sewell is an impressive rider and horseman. But above all, he puts the horse first. Join us in tuning into this awesome conversation where Adam talks about riding horses and competing in mounted archery all over the world. 

He shares stories of partnering with horses in tons of different scenarios, all of which he put the horse before his desired outcome. 

If you a...

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In this episode, we celebrate Cindy's entrance into her new life. The launch of her new book, paired with her move to the new home of Heart Soul Confidence Based Horsemanship in Cottonwood, California. 

Cindy shares her new book, then discusses her plans for her beautiful new horse property and her dreams of hosting women's retreats with her horses. 

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As summer weather heads our way, many of us are dusting off saddles and hitting the trails. But are our horses ready? Are we? What about tack, trucks, and trailers? 

Hit play now to learn how to assess if you’re ready to go, and what to do if you aren’t. Trail riding is one of the very best parts of summer, but so many accidents happen because people go out unprepared. Just because your horse was bombproof l...

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May 12, 2026 52 mins

Find a Barefoot Specialist Near You

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Hoof problems are widespread, and many horse owners are forced to trust their professionals because they lack the knowledge to make informed decisions on their own. 

This becomes a challenge when professionals are limited in an area, and you can't find the help you truly need for your horse. 

A horse can grow an entirely new hoof capsule in a yea...

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Connect With Kim

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In this conversation, we connect with Kim McElroy, a talented artist and deeply spiritual horse woman. She discusses the evolution of her career as an artist and how the spirit of the horse has always been at the center. 

If you value equine artwork that truly captures the soul of its subjects, this episode is for you. Hit play now. 

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In this episode, we dive into nervous system regulation and what that looks like for you and your horse. 

As we come into spring, we often want to do more and get out and push ourselves and our horses out of our comfort zones. 

Doing this safely and successfully requires tools for nervous system regulation. Hit play now to hear this powerful conversation. 

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In this episode, we sit down with horseman Don Jessup to talk about the hard truths that can change everything. Don shares how his early years with Monty Roberts, John Lyons, and Pat Parelli shaped him. He talks about a scary season of burnout, questions, and real soul searching. This is a conversation about what horses teach us when we slow down enough to see them.

Don talks about the hidden stress many horses live with, the subtle...

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This episode covers the husbandry basics people aren’t taught. We talk about the frustrations that so many horse owners have managing their horses’ care and what we do about them. We dig into manure management, fly control, and how to potty train your horse. 3

We also cover lots of hacks for dealing with wet conditions without breaking the bank. If you are struggling through winter and spring, wishing things could be eas...

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Connect With Warwick Schiller

In this episode, we sit down with Warwick Schiller to explore what having a connection with horses really means. We dive into nervous system regulation, emotional awareness, mindset, and the powerful shift from correcting behavior to understanding why the behavior exists in the first place.

Warwick shares the honest story behind his transformation from performance-driven competition to presence-b...

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The other 23 hours... the ones you aren't there. What does that look like for your horse? 


Our last few guests have all mentioned how your horse's management and lifestyle impact your training and performance. 

In this episode, we dive into exactly what that looks like, hoping to inspire listeners to give their horses the best life possible. 

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Check out Emotional Horsemanship with Lockie Phillips

This conversation isn’t about techniques or quick fixes. It’s about integrity, tradesmanship, doing the work to become an excellent horse person. We sit down with Lockie Phillips, who shares that Emotional Horsemanship was never meant to be a brand. It’s a way to find the people who are ready to be honest with themselves and do the work with their horses.

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January 6, 2026 32 mins

Find a more grounded way of being with Cindy

In this episode, we revisit last year’s “First of the Year” episode, reflect on the goals we set, and laugh at how little of it actually unfolded the way we expected. 

What we thought would be a year focused on riding turned into a year of shedding, relocating, grieving, rebuilding, and making changes we never saw coming. And somehow, we both ended up feeling...

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Connect With Anna

Support Trainers Without Boarders

In this episode, we sit down with Anna Twinney to talk about a totally different approach to horse training. 

We discuss how horses experience us. Anna shares journey through natural horsemanship, training mustangs, and using animal communication, to help horses and their people. 

We talk about what many of us were taught in the early days of natural horsemanship, why some o...

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In this episode, we talk about communication with horses. We explore how breaking things down into simple steps can change your entire relationship with your horse… and others in your life.

You’ll hear the stories, the struggles, and the breakthroughs we experience in our work with horses.

You’ll want to listen if you’ve ever felt:

  • Lost in your horsemanship
  • Unsure what your horse is trying to tell you
  • Overwh...
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Connect With Kathy Here

If you feel torn about competing with your horse, this episode is for you.

We sit down with USDF gold medalist and natural horsemanship instructor Kathy Baar. Kathy competes on a high level, but remains committed to putting the horse first. 

In this conversation, we unpack:

  • How Kathy prepares for competition
  • Good management of competition horses
  • How to tell if your horse actually enjoys competition 
  • T...
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