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August 17, 2025 32 mins

Welcome to another compelling edition of the Bob and Ray Show, where insightful journalism meets deep expertise. I'm your host, Robert Scheer, joined by Ray McGovern, a former CIA analyst with a rich background in Russian affairs. With 27 years at the CIA and a knowledge base that spans decades, Ray is uniquely positioned to dissect the intricacies of international relations, particularly concerning Russia and the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.

In today’s episode, we delve into the recent Alaska summit, a meeting many pundits dismissed as inconsequential, labeling it a “nothing burger.” But as we’ll discuss, both President Trump and President Putin emerged from the summit with differing takes, raising critical questions about the shifting power dynamics on the global stage. Trump proclaimed the discussions a success, while Putin appeared to reinforce his position of strength, particularly regarding the Ukraine conflict.


As we explore this topic, we’ll reflect on the changing landscape of power relations, the implications of Trump’s negotiating stance, and the broader ramifications for U.S. foreign policy. Join us as we unpack these complex issues, challenge prevailing narratives, and consider what this means for the future of international diplomacy and the Ukrainian people caught in the crossfire.


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