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May 11, 2024 40 mins
Gary wraps up Saturday with your calls. We also hear from our friends at Miracle Method.
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All right, our phone number yougot, we're gonna get right back to
the phones at the bottom of thehour. Jim Hoodak we're going to speak
with. He is the owner andpresident of Miracle Method. So if you've
been contemplating refinishing countertops, bathtubs,showers, you know, fiberglass chips in

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porcelain, Jim will be the guy. He'll take us through the process.
All right, let's go to Richard. Richard welcome, Thank you, Gary.
Yes, sir, regarding lady withthe character floor wood floor, Yes,
I consider hatching the character all overthe floor if all else sails,

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or maybe standing it to match thecharacter. Yeah, she's kinda I mean
uniform whatever if that would be fine, But it is it in a kitchen
or well we did didn't even getto that because I was having a hard
time. We were She couldn't tellme whether it was a wax floor,
eurothane floor, a varnished floor,And she said these stains were organic,

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so is food, and so Iwas becoming very general. But I was
also kind of persuading her to geta professional winning or take a look at
it. Yeah, I could tellby the way you're talking too. You
got a lot of questions, andyou're not gonna be able to see it
either, you know, if it'sa high traffic area, you know,

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there's a lot of a lot ofquestions in play here. I guess it's
an experimental floor. Yeah, yeah, I mean in a way it is.
You're gonna you're gonna try and getrid of the stain. That's number
one, and then you're gonna workprobably on patching, or you may end
up just standing the whole floor andredoing the floor. It just that project

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can start small and grow big.I don't know. Oh yeah, the
stage can become a picture. Yeahyeah, I mean there's so many yeah,
one of a floor right right,or or it could be a perfect
place for a recliner. So Ireally wouldn't worry about it too much.

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You only need a floor anyway,so just walk on it. Yep,
yep. You know, like Isaid, you can try this, you
can try that, and you cancall character yes or perfect, getting always
the best route. That's right,Well, very good, Thank you much.
I appreciate it, Richard, takecare all right. Our phone numbers

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eight hundred eight two three eight twofive five Anthony welcome, Yes, hello
sir, thank you, Harry.Uh yeah. I bought a house a
couple of months actually, in Decemberlast year, and a nice foot level
of good bombs. But it hadlike a rotten egg smell when you turned
on the hot water, and andso everybody said, I when it was

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inspected, that's what they came upwith, Well, you need a new
hot water heater. So I hada guy take care of that, and
it was fine for about six weeksnow maybe, and now it's starting to
do the same thing again, andthe cold water actually smells like a musty
smell. But I had the well. I had the well water tested twice

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actually from a reputable water company testingcompany, and they said, oh,
you have a lot of good mineralsin there. Everything's within you know,
safe ranges, and sulfur wasn't aproblem, I don't think. So what
is causing that? Somebody said,maybe you need to change the rod in
your hot water heater. But thebrand new hot water here right right.

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Well, so the rod you wouldchange would be called the anode rod a
n ode, and it is thesacrificial part of the water heater that reacts
with hard water and minerals, andthe normal rod is made of magnesium,

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I believe, and it could besome minerals that are just reacting with that
that magnesium rod. Years and yearsand years ago, it was a big
problem. They had some bad rodsout there and got this call all the
time. And that's exactly what itdoes. It smells like rotten eggs.

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And they make an aluminum anode rod. They also some people will just pull
the anode rods out. Your waterheater won't last as long. I'm not
advocating you don't. You don't haveto have them in there, no,
no, okay, but yeah,but maybe going. But they do make

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an aluminum rod a control. Theydo. They do. Yeah, And
my guess is that's exactly what itis. And one of the first things
before you told me was, well, the first question I was going to
ask you is are you on wellwater? And I was going to suggest
you call the the you know,the the well experts and maybe even have
that bleached out. But it soundslike that tested out. Fine, that's

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not the issue. So that's good. Yeah, it's done twice. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, go for analum then. Yeah. And I
don't think there would be any warrantyon that but I think I would check,
you know, I you know,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But I've seen new water heaters thatliterally in a year they would pull
the eNode rod out and half ofit would be gone. Wow. Okay,
so all right, I should beable to get an aluminum one then
yeah. Yeah. So if you'regoing to go through a plumber, that's
fine. Otherwise you're probably gonna haveto go through like a plumbing supply or

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something. But if you have thename of the person that put that water
heater in, you might just questionabout I doubt if there's any coverage on
it, but i'd ask okay,yeah, I got the guy that could
do with you. Okay, I'llgo that route, and real quick,
can I ask you one more questionabout my chimney? Chimney the house is

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built in seventy one, and I'mgetting some leakage. I think through the
chimney into the siding. It's onthe end of the house. But is
there a good way to just likechanging parts type thing like on a car.
I'll just prouse of elimination. CanI what's a good way just to
steal the bricks so I know thatthat isn't the problem. Well, let

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me give you kind of the anatomyof a chimney, okay, And you
can start from top to bottom,all right, the very top of the
chimney, the concrete pad is calledthe crown wash, and the flu goes
up through the crown wash. Anda crown wash is a concrete slab that

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ties the liner and the bricks together. Like all concrete, it can be
susceptible to cracking, spawling, andeven a scene between the flu and the
concrete, the flu and the andthe crown wash, there can be a
gap water can get in there.So the first place, probably starting at

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the top downs take a look atthe crown wash, take a look at
the flu penetrating the crownwash. Thentake a look at the mortar in the
brick. See if there's any missingmortar, any cracks I've checked, And
the crown looks a little cracked.Yep. Okay, So those are two
vulnerable spots. And the most vulnerablespot is the flashing from the roof up

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onto the chimney. So I justhad it's all new. It's all new,
lad, And I'm gonna guess it'sprobably the crown washer, the mortar
and the brick or ceiling, probablythe crown. Okay, do you recommend
just mixing a little mortar and justfilling cracks and doing you know, seeing

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what's going on with that with mortar? Uh for the uh in between the
brick. Yeah, and the crown. If there's a crack, if there's
a crown, what I would dois there's there's a website called Chimney r
X. They actually have a crownwash celant. It is a brushable elast

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americ gray colored. It's like paintingon a rubber band aid. Okay,
So you can go ahead and useany types of crack fillers on the cracks.
You could use a vinyl concrete patcherif it's and then you could use
the crown washed ceilant over the entirething. Just you know, at the

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edges, just run a thing ofduct tape. But that'll be your guide,
you know, where you can justbrush all that and then pull the
duct tape off and you could sealthat crown wash up and you know,
if you've gotten missed back the bricks, there's something something to spray on the
bricks. Yeah. So on thatsame website, they have a they have

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a brick cealant. It's actually awaterproofing because you don't want to seal it.
You want moisture to be moving outof it, but not moving into
it. So there's a chimney brickcealant or waterproofer. You can spray that
on with a tank sprayer, oryou can roll it on, however,
but those are the two areas Ifocus on. Okay, that's a big

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that's a big. Help it good. I appreciate it very much. You're
quite welcome, Thank you, byebye. All right, let's take a
little break, Keith. You'll beup first. Just sit tight and get
you on the other side of thebrick. You're at home with Gary Salvn
right here, fifty five KRC detalkstation. All right, back ahead we
go and uh let's go to Keithtalking a little home improving Keith. Welcome,

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Hey, Keith, Keith, Keith, Yes, yes, by away.
Gary. I had a question onshowers I had. I had a
new shower, a new ceramic tileshower put in about lessen a year ago,
and down at the bottom where thewall and the floor are coming together,

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starting to get some little dark marksin the in the uh. Oh,
I guess you would come with thecalking between it or the mortar between
it. Yeah, that's why Iwas going to ask you, is it
grouting or is it calkingrouting crowding?Okay, yeah, it was crowded in
and Gary. Right after I hadthe shower, Bill, I was listening

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to your program and I bought oneof the big jugs of that Wet and
Forget, but I didn't I didn'twant to start it out on a brand
new shower. And now my questionis can I use it on this shower
and will it reverse any damages thathave been done? Well? It will
kill and clean up molds and mildews. Now I got a couple of concerns.

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The first one is this is aproduct. It's certainly capable of cleaning.
I use it at my house.It's more of a maintenance product,
Keith, than a super cleaner.Okay, yeah, so you know a
scrub brush, some grout cleaners,some bleaching water, something that we can

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get some of that off. Ifit's just a speckle or two, the
Wet and Forget shower will certainly cleanit up, and the wedding frigod shower
may even clean it up. Butit's it's it's a maintenance cleaner. Okay,
that's the best way to keep puttingit right. And you recommend that
to just go in there with thebleach in the water and just give it

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a kind of a once over beforeyou start using them. Yeah, that's
exactly what I'm trying to get throughto it. Yeah, that's exactly what
I would do. And then theSo that's one concern. The other concern
is this isn't a real serious concern, it's just a possibility. So where

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it's getting moldy makes sense. Youknow, water gets all over the walls,
it rolls down, it's the lastplace to dry is where that wall
in that shower pan or meeting,so it's going to stay wet or longer.
So that's most likely why it's milldoingor moldy in that area. But
something to keep an eye open foris could water be beginting behind that wall?

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And the only way water can reallyget behind that wall is if there
were missing grout or missing at thetop of the wall, or if it's
the front wall where the shower handlesare and stuff. Okay, the backwall,
so it's probably not getting behind there, but just just kind of keep

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an eye on that, you know, if it's moldy all the time,
even I mean, if you cleanthat off and spray with wet and forget
and it's that moldy the next week, I'd be concerned that there's water feeding
it from behind that wall. Okay, here, it's taken it almost a
year to start getting Then we're good. I just wanted to bring that up.

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So yeah, a little bleaching water, little grout cleaner, clean it
up, and then just getting touse that. You won't have to scrub
again. It's great stuff. Wespray it down. You just put that
on once a week. Yeah,it says once a week. I've actually
stretched mine out. I don't almostdo it twice once every two weeks now,

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mainly because I just think it's soclean and it kills it so well.
It just doesn't come back for twoweeks. So we apply it every
two weeks. Crave that down.You just you just walk away. You
don't just walk away. That's it. That's it. And next morning when
you when you yeah, I knowit's awesome. The next time you shower,

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I just kind of tilt the showerheads spray that area, because you
should rinse it off only because it'sslippery, so you know, and you
I spray it on on Sunday nights. Monday morning, I turned the shower
on, shave it's it's rinsing itand then I get go take my shower.
That's it. That's all the that'sall the scrubbing or all the cleaning

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we got to do. Well,I love that. Can I tell you
it's six foot four, it's prettyhard. May yeah, I hear you.
I hear you. Well, goodluck with that. That's a good
product. You bet take care byebye and uh yeah. So when I
was talking about water getting behind thewall, that's always a concern whenever water

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would get behind the wall. Yeah, I mentioned the front front part of
the shower. So that's where there'spenetrations to the wall. And that's where
I was kind of focusing a mildconcern because a lot of times we have
the handles for the shower coming outor a handle and we have an excussion
plate that's the ring behind the handle, and those should be calked and they're

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usually not. And as you're takinga shower, water's bouncing off your body
hitting that wall, and there's apossibility that it could find its way behind
the excussion plate or down by thespout, and then there's a larger opening
behind the excussion plate and water couldget behind that, work its way down,

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get to the bottom, kind ofwheat through that grout, and always
kind of keeping it wheat wet.It's drying out on the outside, but
not as much on the inside.So that's why I was saying that there's
being a problem area, we mightwant to just make sure even if we
have to put some tape over fora short period of time where we're not

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getting water on and then put itoff and see if it's damp where it's
telling you the water is getting behindthe wall. So we just want to
kind of keep an eye on that. But they wouldn't forget shower is a
wonderful product. I mentioned this lastweek and I got a lot of email
on it, or some email onit. When I was talking about bugs.

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We had a big buggy day lastweek and I had mentioned and insecticide
that could be put in paint,and people were wanting to know what the
name of that was, and it'sm one they used to make a mill
do it inhibitor, but now,I think a lot of the paints actually

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incorporated that into their paint. Idon't know if they have the mill Deside
anymore, but they do have theM one insecticide, and it's a liquid
to people in the store when they'remixing your paint up, it's for use
outside. They can mix that rightup into the paint, can put it

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on a shaker. And the wayit works is it as long as that
paint film is intact. In otherwords, it's not worn off, or
it's not cracking or blistering or anythingalong noselanes. It is a detern from
for insects. So if you gotit came up because a person lived near

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an area where that he had bigblack flies and they were all over different
parts of his house. And wehad mentioned this, and so did the
person to paint store mention this fella, and I wanted to kind of repeat
that. It's also good if youhave a house. And it's another tip
this time a year to go aroundthe house and knock down all spider webs.

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You know, that's showing that youhave active activity with spiders going on.
Right now, get rid of allthose spider webs and just you know,
with a broom or brush or whatever, get those removed. And again,
if you paint next time, rememberthis m one in sector side.

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That'll really minimize any type of spideractivity on the outside of the house.
So a couple of things that mightmake sense to use around your place.
All right, coming up, we'regoing to talk about a company you've heard
me speak up before called Miracle Method, and Jim Hodeck will be my guest.

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That'll be coming up next. Aswe continue, you're at home with
Gary Sullivan right here in fifty fivecare see the talk station. Back at
it we go, twelve thirty threeon your Saturday at home with Gary Sullivan.
You've heard me speak many times abouta company called Miracle Method and a
fine company. It is right herein the greater Cincinnati area. And join
us now once again, Jim,you Deck, And it's been a while.

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Jim. How you doing. I'mdoing great. Gary, Good afternoon.
How are you doing fine? Doingfine? You guys are staying busy.
I presume we are busy. We'restaying really busy. All right.
It's a good thing. That isa good thing. That's a good thing.
I know you guys do great work, and you've done some work for
me and I you know, peoplethat do it right are always busy.

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Yeah, I have noticed that.Yeah, exactly. Well, tell everybody
a little bit about you know whatMiracle Method is, and you know a
little bit about your company if youwould. Sure. Miracle Method they actually
started in nineteen seventy nine, andwhat separates us from all the other refinishers.

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They would come in Obviously, yourporcelains and your ceramics are so slick
that you know, nothing will stickto it. So they would have to
come in with a like an acid, uratic acid, hydrofluoric acid to etch
into it to create a rough surface. So the codings will see. Well,
what Miracle Method did is we don'tuse any acid. They actually developed

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the bonding agent, and like Isaid, in nineteen seventy nine, they
came out with a bonding agent andthat's what Miracle Methods started. And we
actually come in. We've got atwo step cleaning process. We clean the
surfaces real well, and then weapply the bonding agent and that's what sticks.
That makes the bond to all theslick surfaces, and then our codings
will stick to that. So itwas the proprietary bonding agent that was the

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miracle. Exactly right, that's exactlyright. Well, it all goes back
to my preaching too. You know, it's all about preparation. That's the
key to any successful project. Andyou got to have the right products.
So exactly, yeah, exactly.And with the act, you know,
the asset, especially in a bathroom, it's not good poorn, you know,

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the acid down the drains and especiallyif you've got galvanized pipe, you
know plumbing, it'll rust the insidesof the pipe and it can rest the
drains and of course it's not reallygood to be around either. Right.
Well, I'll tell you what.Bathroom remodeling and bathroom reduce must be big
business because I'll tell you what.There's more advertisements going on on Liners and

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and redoce Use and Jim with miraclemethod, you refinish and it's a whole
lot cheaper. And so I guesswe could start with bathtubs. You do
commercial work, but I'd like toright now just focus on residential work.
Tell us about the art that youcan actually do. Uh And I've seen

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some work. It is hard orit can be just simple old white bathtub
and refinish it exactly. So thebig thing is is with a you know,
if you're going to have your bathroomremodeled, obviously it's going to be
you know, a while without havinga bathroom. And a lot of our

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customers that is a lot of timesour only bathroom and or you know,
that's their only full bathroom. Andyou know, we can come in in
a day. If we're just doinga bathtub, we come in and we
yah, you know, prep thesurface, and then we spray the bathtub
and then actually the next day wecome back and we buff and polish the

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tub so it has that luster lookto it instead of you know, like
a spray on car finish, right, and we wet, sand them,
we buff them, and then youcan use it that day and you know
you're done. And as far aslike your tile walls, a lot of
people are they're not going to changethe lay out of their bathroom. So
it's you know, you're basically justchanging the color of the tile, the

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tile walls, the tile floor,and you know, we can do all
that for you and you're without yourbathroom. If we're doing the walls and
the tub and the tile floors.You know, you're looking at you know,
maybe three days tops and you're backin your bathroom and it's only one
person and you know, have contractorswalking in and out of the house all
day. Right, So how manyblack and pink, yellow and turquoise,

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avancado and gold walls have you done? You think A whole lot? A
whole lot. Well, you know, I just want to emphasize what a
great solution because you know those colors, there's still probably thousands of them around
and very retro. And some peoplelike the retro. Other people want something,

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you know, just a bisk wouldbe fine. Other people want a
trendy color. And you offer allthat, but if you want to take
that and remodel that bathroom and takethat tile off that that that's you know,
six x eight bathroom or four byeight bathroom, mccause you're twelve thousand

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dollars trying to get all that stuffoff exactly. And you know a lot
of the older houses they have theconcrete that they trout up you know,
on the on the still laugh beenthere, that's yeah. So yeah,
I mean the demolition is is youknow a lot and like I said before,

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if you're just going to keep thesame footprint of your bathroom, you
know, why not just change thecolor. And we also have the natural
accents that we call it, andit's a stone look that we can put
on your tile walls and your tilefloor. And there's forty two different colors
of that. And you know,it's a very nice coating and it's very

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durable. It's not a quick fixthing just to sell the house and leave
a problem with somebody else. Imean, you know, we do off
of the five year warranty with it, and it's it's going to last,
you know, fifteen twenty years.Of the color last fifteen or twenty years,
and that's exactly what you state.So yeah, that is and there

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are plenty of like you said,colors, and you can do the walls,
the tubs, and I know atmy house, I had a I
don't think it was even a porcelaintub. Was the steel tub is upstairs
and right after it was new,something was dropped on it a big chip.
And yeah, I can patch chips, but they never looked the same.
I'm not that good. And there'sall kinds of kits and hardware stores

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and I tell people on this showall the time, you can try it,
but I'm telling you it's not goingto look like a regular bethtub when
you're finished. Well, when youguys do it. You did both those.
I think you did one tub ortwo tubs, and it looked like
a brand new tub. I meanit doesn't look past. You get what

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you pay for, Yes, youdo. And they do, you know,
especially the cast iron tubs. Youknow they're they're so expensive to try
to replace. And then you gotto tear everything out and we can come
in and you know, the castiron tubs, the steel tubs, the
fiberglass tubs, they all know theyturn out like Brandon, your fiberglass tub
and shower units. And I thinkyou know a lot of people think you

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got to tear it out, whichyou know you don't have to. We
can come in and resent it.Yeah, and interesting enough too is and
I'm glad you brought up the fiberglassbecause fiberglass is going to fail a lot
faster than porcelain. So a lotof people listening right now probably have a
fiberglass tub or a fiberglass shower pan, and it's it always is dirty.

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You can't get them clean. Imean, it's fibers and you guys can
get that coated and yeah, fora lot less money than tearing everything out
and do the walls and do thefloors. And I also had to do
countertops. Yes, I think wedid to your cultured marble vanity top right,

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and we can do we can resurfaceall those and with it and then
we run into a lot with likeyou were talking before about the chips.
You know, we do a lotof shape repairs. It's you know,
especially new homes during construction. Youknow, somebody drops something in the tub
or right, you know, anything, do they get cracked? You know,

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we do quite a bit of fiberglasswork on you know, drains and
and you know where somebody's dropped somethingand we come in and we touch it
up and you can't even tell,you know that it was a chip.
Color match everything we do and theyturn out really nice. So if people
are listening right now, they're like, man, I got a you you
come to the home, you givethem a quote, you can show them

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the colors do a regular cert nota service call, but a sales call
if you will at the home first, or how's that all work? Sure?
They would, you know, callus here at the office and then
we come out of the estimates free. You know, we go over the
job with the customer, and thenyou know, we go ahead and schedule
it and send one of our techniciansout to take care of the job.

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Okay, so it's uh five toone three eight zero eight forty eight sixty
six. That's it or Miracle Methoddot com. All right, Well,
if you got about five minutes,let me take a break. I'd like
to talk a little bit about thecommercial work you do, because I think
that always tells the homeowner just howdurable this Miracle Method product is. So

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if you don't mind sit tight fora second, you're at home with Gary
Salvin right here on fifty five KRCdetalk station. Jim Hudak he is,
my guess, he is the ownerand president of Miracle Method right here in
the greater Cincinnati area. And folks, if you've got you know, the
uh an older tiled bathroom, wedon't need to get into the avocado greens

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and all that, but there's plentyout there. Mister Khudak here can refinish
him to a lot of a lotof exciting colors. Are very neutral color
kind of with a wonderful coating,the miracle method coding to show you really

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how durable this is. I've beentalking about residential uh tubs and bathrooms,
but you do a lot of commercialwork too, universities, hotels, that
kind of stuff. Yes, wedo, and the hospitals we do a
lot of the uh patience rooms thatyou know, the tile showers, the

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trasopans, the tile floors. Theythe hospitals really like it, you know,
for the the bacteria that can growin tile and uh, you know,
we'll we'll go in and put thecoatings on and and it makes it
a whole lot easier to clean.And obviously you don't have all the bacteria
and things they can grow in thegroucho ones anymore. Plus, I mean

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the advantage think if you had tophysically remodel that bathroom. I mean,
you know that work extends well beyondthe bathroom. And if you're in a
hospital, you've got to be amirror method there, you know, you
know, when I have jackhammers andeverything else running, well the room next

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door. Yeah yeah, so yeah, go ahead. Those Well, in
the schools, we're doing uh youknow, we've done quite a few schools
now too, the the Tarrazo floors, uh, the you know the in
the in the restrooms and things thatyou know that's kind of old and really
outdated. And so we'll go inand you know, we finish all the

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tile walls and the toilet partitions andthe terrezo floors. Is an amazing really
how quickly stuff goes out of date. I mean, we talked about some
very dated tiles, but when you'retalking about TOREZOI thirty years ago, that
was the thing, and that goesso fast, and that stuff lasts forever.

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There's nothing wrong with the substrate.It just needs help exactly. And
that's where we come in. Yeah. Yeah, So I always find it
amazing that more people don't look atthat in that direction. You know,
we're tearing stuff out all the time, and you know, especially in older

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homes, there's the square footage isn'tabundant in a lot of the older homes,
and why would you ever want toYou can't really reconfigure anything in some
of the older homes. But froma cost perspective, a cleanliness perspective,
a cost perspective, miracle method canreally make it easier and less and more

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affordable. Than the other ways.And it's very very durable. It is
a very durable surface. And youknow, just going into these like we're
talking with the commercial jobs. Youknow, we've we've been here in Cincinnati
for ten years and you know we'vewe've done jobs that are you know,

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eight nine years old, and we'vegone back and looked at them and you
know, the customers still very happywith it, and they have us,
you know, we're doing more workfor them. So it definitely holds up.
Yeah, from a cost perspective,with fifty to seventy eighty percent less
expensive just by using the miracle method. It's it's definitely, it's it's definitely

(33:21):
in the fifty to seventy percent range. You know, just the just the
tearing, tearing everything out, youdon't have all that and in the time
thing, you know, most jobswe can be in and out and you
know a day to a day totwo days and you know you've got a
brand new a brand new looking restroomor bathroom. Yeah, so you've been

(33:43):
doing this for ten years in thegreater Cincinnati area. Can you share maybe
some good stories in terms of oran average story of the reaction of homeowners
I mean, obviously, I've beenone that has used your service in You're
right, You're in there one dayand you stop back and wrap it up,

(34:05):
and it was painless, and itwas in ours. It was a
you know, a bisk color.I keep using that word today for some
reason. And that's what we wentwith. But I'm sure you get into
some others that are maybe a littlebit more ornate or a little different type

(34:27):
colors. And what kind of reactionswhen you're finished do you get from most
of the homeowners? Well, andthat's absolutely the best part of this job
is that the customers are so thrilledand you know, they just could never
believe that, you know, it'sthe same it's the same bathroom that could
actually look that good and and youknow, and with a whole new color

(34:50):
and it looks like a totally different, totally different bathroom. Right, do
are most of the well, I'mjust generalizing, I guess I don't really
know what is the every cage ofa house that you do this to.
Is it much older ones or isit people that I guess have accidents too
where they drop stuff or you're therefor that too. Yeah, and Gary

(35:14):
varies. I mean, you know, we've gone into houses that are built
back in the twenties all the wayup to you know, just recently built
that we're doing chip repairs. Wewe we did a bathtub the other day
that the whole the drain was rustedout, and the customer was, you
know, so worried they were goingto have to totally you know, got

(35:34):
the bathroom just because the tub andthe bathroom was nice. Is just the
tub around the drain had rusted completelythrough, and you know, we can
go in and refiberglass all that,then put our drain kit over top of
it and it's fixed. And shewas so happy about not having to tear
the tub completely out. In thebathroom. Well, you know some of
those probably one of the hottest itemsin tough there's an old cloth foot you

(36:02):
know, bathtubs, porcelain bathtubs,and you know if that finishes shot and
probably the older ones that finishes shot, that finish feels like sandpaper you strike
you start trying to take one ofthose things out of that bathroom. I
mean, that's that's a nightmare.That's a nightmare of a job. Make

(36:23):
you wonder how they ever got itin there. I tell you, what
that. I mean, you agreethat is a nightmare of a job.
There's no easy way to do thatproject and to be able just to refinish
it. I mean, not onlyis it a huge cost savings, but
I mean you keep that you keepthat look, which is priceless. I

(36:44):
mean you keep that look, youkeep that same claw foot tub and they
have it refinished. That's outstanding.Oh, We'll go in a lot of
the older claw foot tubs. They'vethey've been etched on the inside just because
the porcelains wore all and you know, we can go in and and skim
come the tub completely out with fiberglassand then refinished the tub and where you

(37:07):
finished the outside of the tubs andit looks like a brand new tub.
Yeah yeah, So how many tubsdo you go to refinish that someone's tried
to refinish it themselves. A lot, do you really? Yeah? They
make it look, you know,on on a lot of on a lot

(37:28):
of social media, they make itlook so easy. Just go in and
refinish your own tub, and it'sthey obviously all our coatings are sprayed applied,
right, and to make a tublook nice, it really does need
to be sprayed. You can't brush, but we asked we have to go
in and remove the old finish andthen you know, and then do our

(37:50):
our prep work on it and thenrefinish the tub. And they're always really
happy. And you know, theyalways say I should have just caught you
first. Well, you know what, ILL agree. So I get asked
this question for the last forty years, you know, about refinishing bathtubs.
And before you and I met up, I would tell people you're just not

(38:13):
going to be able to finish thattub to be happy with it, and
you just you just can't, Likeyou said, it's got to be sprayed.
Now I even see him coming outwith some non epoxies. The poxies
are hard to apply, virtually possiblewith brush, and now they're trying non
epoxies. But the bottom line is, I've not seen anybody be able to

(38:34):
refinish a bathtub where it looks likeanything except you guys. I mean,
it's it looks like a new tub, as we keep saying. But yeah,
I've always kind of joked about thosekids. It's like, well,
you can do anything, you canpaint anything, but paint it writes another
story. So well, well,and with a bathtub you're always with you're

(38:55):
dealing with so much water and eat. You know, if you were able
to make it look nice, that'sthe greatst thing with our bonding agent.
You know, it really does makea good bond. Sure, a lot
of the other codings just fail andthey all start, you know, just
start peeling off. Yeah. Yeah, Well, folks, if you want
to get a hold of Jim,it's Miracle Method and it's Miracle Method dot

(39:19):
com or you can call over there, make an appointment's five to one three
eight zero eight forty eight sixty six. And thanks for joining us, Jim,
have a good rest of the week. Good talking to you again.
You two. Thanks a lot,Garry having you day, all right,
take care of my friend, allright, Jim, you deck. And
you know, this whole refinishing tubscame full circle. There was some you

(39:46):
know, i'll call individuals owned refinishingtub businesses. This is a large company,
this Miracle method, and the miraclewas and I joke when I said,
but it truly was. The proprietarybonding agent. That's what changed that

(40:07):
industry. And refinishing countertops, walls, floors a wonderful product, durable product
and a good, good company.I highly recommend them again. It's Miracle
Method five one three eight zero eightforty eight sixty six. All right,
thanks Jim and Danny. Thank you. Has been a busy Saturday and kind

(40:29):
of a fun saturday. We coveredthe gamut from water heaters, all kinds
of the bathtubs. The hall workstoday, and we appreciate that diversity,
that's for sure. All right,good Lord Willing. We'll both be back
tomorrow for more At Home with GarrySullivan

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