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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The world's Well, we're in top ten, you know, nicely
into the top ten for gun related live radio and podcast.
So if you're listening on podcasts, well, if you're listening
at all, no matter how you hear it, welcome and
thanks for tuning in. Bill Petterson sitting across from me,
(00:20):
are you modulating over there?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I am modulating very well, modulating. Good to hear from
your clerk. Good beautiful Saturday afternoon. Glad to have everyone
listening to us on our podcast and our live radio show.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, so for mother, because I Bill handles all the buttons,
and that well, Mark handles a lot of those two.
But Bill is in charge of a lot of the
technology for a gun radio Utah. And you told me
that I was over modulating, maybe perhaps.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Over modulating, and we heard a pop, So go ahead
and slide that little button down on.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Your Really, you just heard a pop. Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
You're full of snap, crackle and pop over there in
your studio.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
All right, So I'm just gonna I'm just gonna bring
that back down here. Okay, So there we go. We'll
try that now, I am anyway, So all right, well,
let me tell you about today's about Today's Gun Radio, Utah,
we're gonna be visiting Kamala Harris and some things that
she has said that sometimes I think she well, you know,
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she goes off. She doesn't have a teleprompter, kind of
like you know when Biden doesn't have a teleprompter and
he just keeps going off and going off on things.
She'll do that too. And when she was a district
attorney for well, she was attorney general in California, she
made a very interesting statement standing and I looked at
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the video. She's standing right next to Governor Newsom when
she says this and didn't blink an eye. And Bill,
you're going to at some point we'll have you play
that because you've got that on there and it can
be a little hard to tell. So what we're going
to do is we're going to translate it for you
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so that you can you know, so that you can
hear it anyway. In addition, we're going to we're gonna
talk about I just got back from Florida from Disney
from Didneyland, and we stayed at the one of the
one of the wonderful disney Land disney World resorts out there.
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Very nice Coronado's Coronado Springs, I think it was. Anyway,
so we're there for we're there for about a week,
and it was very interesting because I didn't look it
up on the website or anything like that, and I
obviously bill I brought a gun or and come to
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find out maybe that way I may have brought let
me say this, I may have brought a gun or two.
You know. Anyway, it was all fuzzy that whole week.
It was the humidity in that. So, uh, we're gonna
we're gonna take a look at Disney's policy and then
you know the little door cards that if you want
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the maid to come in, you know, the house housekeeping
to come in, or if not to come in, you
can hang the thing on your door or so they
don't come in or anyway, we're going to read the
fine print literally on that door hanger. And I'm not
going to compare it to what you can do in Utah,
but it was very interesting fine print on that. Yeah,
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so we're going to talk about that Georgia well a
case a civil case against SIGSUR and a plaintiff who
shot himself. I'm just gonna say, shot himself and the
jury awarded something like two and a half million dollars
to Sig Sour excuse me, to the plaintiff against Sig
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Sour uh for a gun just going off. Just it
was there, it was fine, then all of a sudden, kaboom,
it just went off. Well, we're gonna, we're gonna we're
gonna look at that. We're gonna look at the evidentiary
standard for civil civil cases. So should you be involved
in a civil case or you know that kind of thing.
We're also third segment. We're going to have Representative and
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House Majority whip carry on, Lisenbyond talking about her new
huge it's a big gun bill, and we've been talking
about this. It's a rewrite of recodification and some changes
to existing law. But it's it's gonna be big. It
is big, but it's out there and you can you
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can download it and you can read it. It's one
hundred and two pages. And but isn't it one of those?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Isn't it one of those? It is big today, but
afterwards it'll be smaller.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's big today, the language is big today, but after
legislation up after upcoming legislation, once you all gets clarified.
Actually be smaller and simpler and easier, but it could
be bigger. It could bigger could Yeah, okay, Well I'm
excited to have her on on on and give us a.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Fantastic So we're going to talk about that. And hey,
so Randall, and in fact, you know Bill, I I
hadn't discussed this with you in prep. Well I had,
and I decided not to, but now I'm going to. Okay, okay,
so Randall, our fantastic board member reviews a lot of
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the emails that I don't have time to and send
us send me an email that said, have you responded
to these folks? And this was a request we get.
We get this often. I'll get a request to be
interviewed by media. Typically it's local media, but we'll get
national and sometimes international media that we'll call and say, hey,
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they want to do either a zoom interview or sometimes
an in person interview just for a story they're doing. Well,
we got this one request that they were going to
send a film crew out to Utah to interview me
about the Second Amendment and my thoughts on guns. And
they were going to want to do, you know, follow
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me around in my office and up at the Capitol
into a shooting range and all sorts of stuff. And
I got looking at the time frame and I was
doing two things. One, I was looking at their time
frame for when they wanted to do it, what days,
And I was trying to make that work. But in
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the same time, I said, do I want to do
that interview? And Bill, you were one of the people
I called to ask about this, and so why don't
you just tell tell the folks, tell listeners who it
was that was requesting this.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Interview, the the Al Jazeer's network.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Al Jazeera Network. Yeah, and there's a lot of should
I say, red flags that came up because as you know,
my name, if you look at my name a pocean,
it's definitely Armenian. And the Armenians are, historically, i mean,
the very first Christian nation on earth kind of surrounded
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by non Christian folks, right, and they have been, you know,
their their numbers were more than decimated and throughout history
by this, you know, because of religion and that type
of thing. Well, Al Jazeer is predominantly, uh for the
you know, the listeners probably predominantly of the Muslim faith
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there and the Armenians have not had good luck. No,
And I'm just trying to think, why of all the
gun rights folks in the nation would Al Jazeera pick
and our Armenian name to do that. That was just
one of the things. So we got asking. We asked
some FBI people. I went out and I asked you.
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I asked Tom Gresham. I actually texted Tom and he
says no, oh, hell no, no, and then he.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Not but hell no.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And so then I reached out because I, you know, hey,
I you know, I don't want to you know, you
know I love stirring stuff up. You know, we do that,
but you know, when it comes to, you know, anyway, nothing.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Then I reached out to nothing good can come of this.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Well, I reached out to the commissioner, the Commissioner of
Public Safety, because I know he gets briefings and you know,
from the FEDS and and that. And I reached out
to him and he got back with me and said, uh,
probably not, Clark, probably don't want to do this because
because it's you know, Algira does not have an outlet
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here in the United States. Since twenty sixteen, they've been
banned many many countries have banned them because of their
reporting on or their let's say, their slant of reporting
on terrorism and that kind of thing. And they've been banned.
Now that makes you wonder why some other media let
outlets in the United States haven't been banned too. But anyway,
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and it didn't work out because we've got the Elk Hunt,
I've got gun rights policy conference coming up next week.
So it just wasn't going to work out either. But
and then and and so that's why I kind of
bowed out of it. And then come to find out,
I started hearing from everybody that I've reached out to,
so we won't do that. So that's going to be
one I'm I had to decline. Yeah, I think maybe
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you could do it. Bill.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
No, I'm definitely not going down in there at all
at all.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Okay, no, no, no, no, all right, what have we got? Oh,
we're past time. We're a little bit past time on
this segment. So when we come back, we're gonna talk
let's talk about Kamala. You want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Kamala when we come back. Day to Bill Petterson, director,
do you touch Shooting Sports Council? Hey, you can always
jump online head over to you Touch Shooting Sports Council
dot org, dot o RG, sign up for email alerts
and uh yeah, legislation is just months away here, Clark,
and this is a great way for our listeners to
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stay up to date and and uh know what's going
on with our our wonderful legislators and and some of
the bills that we'll be working on this upcoming session.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So well, that's true. I mean, legislation, the legislative session
is just months away, but legislation is actually already yeah,
is already is already going strong. And so that's what
we're going to be talking about with Representative Carry and
Lizzon be the House Majority Whip next segment. And oh
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so so we were talking, Oh you know what I
gotta do. I gotta do a little shout out. I
got to do a little shout out to a wonderful
young woman that I met with with Casey Jane was
right next to me, by the way, the whole time.
Emily Emily from Arkansas. And as you like to say,
ar kansass or do you call it ar Kansas Arkansas? Yeah,
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oh it just rubbed them the wrong way. It's Arkansas
Emily from Arkansas. Fan, I mean, just loved her everything,
her accent and shooting. She was talking about shooting through
the window through the portrait at you know, to get
deer meat and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Just really fantastic Heart of America kind of folks. And
and we we met them in Disney, I want to
say Islands of Adventure. I think we were at Disney. No, no,
not not Disney Universal. We went everywhere. I went to
Universal Studios and we went to Islands of Adventure because
Casey Jane had to go see the Harry thing.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I cant tell you a funny story though about our really, yeah,
that was one of my earlier, earlier childhood days. We're
in Arkansas outside of Little Rock, and this was my
first experience in creating and making a hollow point bullet.
Funny story, Yeah, out of thirty eight specials. We have
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these thirty eight specials and they were lead bullets back then,
and we would just take a little pocket knife and
carve out the center of it before we loaded up,
and it did made a huge difference. We shot pumpkins
with the hollow points and without the hollow points that
we'd made, and yeah, it was pretty spectacular for a
nine year old. That was a great science project. So anyway, you.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Found that the via physics to to to mess with
the structural integrity of the lead of the bullet itself.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, more dramatic effect. Yeah, the first did across. We
just kind of took our knives and did across in
the bullet that I heard.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That's how they did dumb dumb bullets way back when it.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Might have been. But we did cross that.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
They didn't really do anything, but if you kind of
dug it out and we take you take five ten
minutes of dig one of these things out to get
a decent cavity in there.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's that's how I like my summers science class. I
never knew this about you and this was it and
the yeah, I remember it to this day. Of all
the things we did, that is the number one thing
I remember doing so.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Awesome, awesome, And and her mom, Sarah, I believe her
mom's name was Sarah, she was there. So yeah, we
just had fun time. So it will shout out to
Ed from South Carolina as well. Ed and I hung out.
We went to Shooters World in Florida. That's a big place.
Shooters World is huge yeah, two stories huge. Oh and
they had a very prominent display of goat guns, remember
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Brad goat guns, and a prominent display of silencer co
suppressors who we're going to talk to them next week. Yeah,
all right, let's talk about Kamalin. So Kamala was on
Oprah recently, and let's see if I can pull this
up and let me see. Yeah, I think I've got
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it ready, So hang on. And she was talking to Oprah,
who knows what. They're giggling with each other, and she
said the following. She says, you know, I'm a gun owner.
Tim Waltz is a gun owner. She starts it off
like this, So, let's see, I depend my.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Gun owner is a gun that is getting shot.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
If somebody breaks into my house, they're getting shot.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Probably should not have said that, but myself will deal
with that later.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Okay. So she said, so I'm a gun owner, Tim
Waltz's gun owner. If somebody breaks into my house, they're
getting shot. And then she says, oh, I shouldn't have
said that, and my staff will deal with that later. Well,
the thing is her staff or her secret service are
the people that are going to shoot because she doesn't
have to worry about that like you and I do.
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And she has secret service and has either secret service
or while she was with the with California government, she
had paid for security. She hasn't had to worry about
her own safety in a long long time. And whereas
the rest of us, well, yeah, we have to now. Bill.
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She also then mentioned, so she would have had to
had a gun in her home or she's envisioning she's
trying to be like the regular folks like you and
me who have a firearm in our home for lawful
self defense among other things. You know. And Bill, when
you get a sec can you play that thing? And
then I'll transcribe it so to speak, But well me
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let me read it first. She's attorney General for California.
She's standing right next to Gavin news from the governor,
and she says, just so you can hear this, just
because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of
your she literally says, in the sanctity of your locked home,
doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that
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home and check to see if you're being responsible. And folks,
this is a violation of the second, fourth and fourteenth
amendment all in one sentence bill play that bean footage.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Among everybody in the community. And just because she legally
possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home,
doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that,
mom and check to see if you're being responsible on
safety the way you conduct your fare.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So you know what's really about that whole comment that
just outside the Baptist church. So I mean, oh yeah, yeah,
I mean there standing just outside of this Baptist church.
And I mean to have the goal to be able
to say something like that in full honesty.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
She used the word sanctity, yeah, which we refer to
our home, you know, as a sanctity from the outside way.
But yet it isn't so sanctified that it can't have
agents of the government coming into your home and check
on you to determine if you are responsible whatever that means.
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So so now keeping in line with that, we've got
a couple of minutes here, and I want to read
to you what is on the door hanger at the
Disney Springs Hotel, the Disney Resort Hotel. In tiny print,
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It's down at the bottom of the door hanger, says
the Disney Resort Hotel and its staff reserve the right
to enter your room even when this sign is displayed
and it says room occupied for maintenance, safety, security, or
any other purpose. The Disney Resort Hotel staff will knock
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and announce their presence before entering as applicable. Okay, I hadn't.
I just look at these door hangers. I don't even
I don't obviously not reading the fine print on them.
But somebody pointed that out to me while I was there,
and then I got looking. Guess what. You're not allowed
to have a firearm or a knife on any of
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the Disney properties, including in the hotel where they don't
have metal attectors. They do at all the park entrances
in that But thank goodness, we live in Utah, where
your home, your residence, or even a temporary residence is
protected uh for you to have a firearm, and that's
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written right into our code.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So that really surprises me that they would have something
like that in the state of Florida. Now I know
they handled Disneyland disney World a little different in Florida,
because what is it, They have their own police force,
They're kind of their own.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
They do and they they can literally well I think
the governor they isn't it DeSantis that has been saying
he's been pushing back at Disney though for some of
their policies because they're literally able to or have been
able to write their own zoning laws right exactly in
uh the Didney the Didney folks. So anyway, I found
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that I found that very interesting. And yes, even in
the state of Florida. But like I've said, we don't
have that in Utah, and which is reason number six
hundred and seventy one why Utah is the best state
for gun rights. All Right, when we come back on
Gun Radio Utah, we're going to have Representative carry and
listenby talking about her new bill. So stay tuned and
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welcome back to Gun Radio Utah. There are no apologies.
And like Bill had said that the legislative session is
drawing near, it will be January twenty. I want to
say the twenty first. I know it's right around John M.
Browning's birthday every year, so it's right around that time
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and in line with that and especially keeping with firearm
and weapon modifications, we have Representative House Majority Whip carry
on listenby Representative listenby welcome back to gun Radio, Utah.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Thank you Clark.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
All right, and just a check because we're doing this
connection a little bit different. Bill and Mark, can you
hear can you hear Carrie in yes?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Sounds great?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, okay, good, thank you very much. All right. So
and we won't get a delay on this one that way. So,
represent Elizabeth, you've got a bill. Well, actually it's it's
not under your name, but we have I think it's
Representative Gwin that's running it.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Is that right, No, it's actually my bill. It's a
it's a recons what went through a subcommittee that represented
Wins it actually chairs.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
So okay, and this is not your I mean a
lot of gun bills are two three four pages. This
one is one hundred and two pages. Am I right?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
It's yeah, it's a long bill.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It's been worked on for a long time. LED Research
has worked with you for quite a while on this
one because, as we have heard often among legislators, among
regular folks, you tusk gun you have to kind of
get a PhD in them to understand them. Because of
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all the back and forth and the references here and there.
What is the requodification primarily doing.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Thank you clerk. So that's a great question, and primarily
it's just cleaning it up and clarifying. Citizens should know
their rights. They should be able to get on the website,
read what the law is, and then act accordingly. And
right now, there are even some contradictory codes, as you
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know in our firearm section, and so we are just
trying to clean the holding up, clarify. But in doing that,
obviously there are some policy calls that have to be
made as we are clarifying or making sure that there
are no contradictory codes. So what the bill does and
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some of the policy calls we've made are also because
of developing case law. The Bruin case actually significantly changed
the landscape in America. And so one of the first
things that I would like to address is there was
an article that was published by I guess article is generous.
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There was a blog post by an individual in Utah
who really didn't understand and clearly hadn't read through the
bill or even listened to the bill presentation. But the
bill does say that for anybody in Utah eighteen years
and older, you can open carry a firearm in the state,
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and for anybody twenty one years of age and older
in the state that has been the law. What hasn't
been the law is eighteen to twenty one year olds.
You could in some instances if you were eighteen to
twenty one, for instance, in a car, but you couldn't
just just everywhere, obviously, with the exceptions of K twelve,
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school grounds, federal buildings, things like that. You know that
I ran eight years ago now the provisional carry permit
that allowed eighteen to twenty one year olds to get
a provisional carry to conceal carry. So basically, we're just clarifying. Look,
we're treating all adults the same, and we're doing the
same thing with the vehicle statue as well.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
And if I may jump in here, we're treating all
adults the same. It's not a huge leap though. First off,
we're not the first date to do this. There are
at least a dozen states I can think of right
now where we haven't seen any pattern of problems, let
alone even individual instances that I can think that I
can rend it of. And I mean eighteen year olds
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literally could for over a decade in Utah have a
as long as they were otherwise lawfully in possession of it,
a loaded handgun in their vehicle, and we haven't seen
I cannot remember in and of itself if they were,
you know, as long as other than those that were
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illegally in possession of this. But the otherwise lawful carrying
has been a problem. I certainly haven't seen a pattern
of it either.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Right absolutely, And you know, we do have a pretty
strong criminal code. There are things that are against the law,
and those should be prosecuted, but what shouldn't be prosecuted
is somebody exercising the fundamental constitutional rights. And so you
know that that in the past we've worked together to
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make sure that that didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Happen as well.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
So the other one, some of the other kind of
policy calls that we've made in the bill. One is
dealing with NFA items. So as you know, we had
we'd listen in code three NFA firearms, but not all
NFA firearms, and so we basically are just changing that
to say NFA firearms instead of just listing out three
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of them, so that we can be clear to our
citizens with the laws. If they don't know what an
NFA firearms, they should go look it up, that's a
federal law, and comply with the federal law. And one
of the concerns is, you know, the federal government is
so good at regulating our lives. And I'm speaking tongue
in cheek here, but you know, they often change the
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code and it's hard for the regular citizen to know
what the law is. And so we actually inserted a
protection for Utah residence if they, for instance, are at
a gun range and using an item that maybe is
newly recognized by the ATF as an NFA item, or
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Congress has changed the law and they don't know about it.
They would have to knowingly and intentionally know about it
to perhaps, you know, hands a minor an item and
you know, in a scout activity or so something.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So something is innocuous as a pistol braced pistol, correct
that that we've always considered a pistol with a with
a brace on it. But then the Feds, you know,
from one week to another change it from a pistol
to a short beld rifle back to a pistol again,
and so on and so forth, and one would have
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been prohibited for a minor to possess, and then the
other wouldn't have.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Been correct, and so we're just saying, hey, you have
to have knowingly and intentionally and behaved in a reckless manner.
And that's to protect those parents, the scout leaders who
aren't intentionally breaking a lot, who are not doing anything
in a dangerous way.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So, so Representative, I got a question for you. It
sounds like you've got a section in here with n
FA items, and let's talk specifically about it. Probably is
probably titled clark Potion's bump stock, and we like to
bring this up because he still has not got his
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bump stock back.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
All right, Bill, all right, Bill, I did get another
I did get a text message from the special agent
and I can pick it up this next week. So
there you go. So clear, So clear your calendar, Bill,
you'll come with me.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Okay, So Representative, how have you you've shared this with NRA,
I L A, I take it, and some price some others.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
What's there? Yeah, what's their overall.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Take so far? I have I've not received any pushback.
I've talked with law enforcement. I've talked, I mean obviously
presented it to the public and a committee hearing or
subcommittee hearing, and the only pushback that I've had on
this is from a very liberal former journalist who just
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couldn't read the lawn and publish something.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And it became journalists don't care.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Trendzy for a minute until they were corrected. But you know,
I think, honestly the conversation is important and I'll listen
to anybody anytime. You know that I'm like that, and
I have not heard any concerns.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Okay, So here's a question for you. And I do
know this bill quite well, and is there anything in
the one hundred and two pages of this bill that
takes away any existing ability with firearms that we have
right now? Absolutely not, Okay, So it either adds to
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it or keeps it the same. It adds to our
existing ability or keeps it the same.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Right, Yeah, And I'm glad brought that up because the
one final thing I think I would like to say
about the bill of We Have Time is I think
in current code and our legislative drafters agree, and even
our higher ed institutions agree that it's not appropriate for
anybody who's a lease or or a person who is
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creating contract to prohibit firearm on somebody's lawful residents through
a lease agreement, and our code currently prohibits that in
several sections. However, for a long time now, our higher
ed institutions have misinterpreted that and have infringed on students'
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fundamental rights to protect themselves, to defend themselves, and to
possess in their domicile. And so what this bill does
is it just clarifies it even more. It doesn't add
a right, it doesn't take away right because like I said,
our law has said that for years. But it is
clarifying that. And we are hoping that le source stop
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abusing the contract to force Lise's to rent a property
and sign something that says they won't have a firearm
on premise. We are working on that. I think that's
important and.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
We appreciate that very much. This has been representative carry
and listenby House Majority Whip for the Utah State Legislature.
Thank you very much for being back on Gun Radio Utah.
We have to have you back on hosting again, maybe
maybe here pretty soon. And because we've got l hunts
and we've got all sorts of stuff that we've got
to do. Do you have bill, Do you have any
(31:42):
guns that that need some adjusting?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, some work some stuff. Oh, by the way, did
you see that that new cookbook that's out in Ohio? Yeah,
how to walk your dog Dog.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Anyway, Sorry, okay, so if you're going to go down
that path, here's another one.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, we went down that path. But you know what, though,
I mean, it's got to be confusing when people name
their dogs peanut or brisket. Speaking of one person, I know,
because these are these are edible foods. And did you
not name did you not have a family that named
their dog brisket?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well, yeah, she hadn't.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
What do we expect? What are we supposed to do? Brough?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
She had another one named apple strudle, and then another
one named potato brisket.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
It was kind of right in the.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
You see what I mean, Brisket is just asking, it's
just asking for that dog to go missing.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
So, hey, didn't you hear about this? And then let's say, Clark,
did you hear about this in the news?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
What? What? No infidel Infidel founding? Oh yet, all right, Bill?
You know what?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Could be a lot calling. So anyway, I'm I have
no response to that. I have no response to that anyway.
What I do have a response to is if your
gun is broken, if it needs refinishing, if it needs
Sarah coding, if it needs engraving, if it needs the
stock fixing, machining work, whatever needs to happen to your firearm.
(33:28):
Maybe it's just not functioning right, get it over to
the gunsmith. The gunsmith at Sportsman's Warehouse will take care
of that. You can take it down to them at
sixteen thirty South fifty seventy West in Salt Lake City,
give them a call at eight to one three zero
four eighty seventy eight one three zero four eighty seventy
or take it into any of the over one hundred
and forty six Sportsmen's Warehouse locations. They will get it
(33:50):
taken care of, and the good folks over there at
the gunsmith will give you a call and find out
exactly what needs to happen to your firearm. Now, Bill,
thank you very much for that little thing there. Hey,
remember the the murderous kid in al Apachie Appalachi High
(34:12):
School in Georgia. Yeah, and this again reminds me to
remind you that if you have a concealed carry permit
in the state of Utah, you can carry in a school.
If you're a school teacher, if you're a custodian, if
you're a parent, if you're a librarian, if you're an administer,
(34:33):
I don't care. If you have a concealed carry permit,
you're allowed to. A're not restricted. You're not disarmed. I'm
not going to say allowed to. You're not disarmed when
you go into the school, like in so many schools,
including the state of Georgia. And so they did a
little poll right after that that kid went on a
murder spree and found that a majority of Georgia parents
(34:58):
who have kids in the school want teachers to pack heat,
so to speak. This was out of the New York Post.
Gen Karski aj A. G Garski wrote this in the
New York Post just this last week, and a majority
of parents given that. Now, so what are the stats
(35:20):
in that for out of one hundred and eighty school
districts in Georgia, three of them allow it because they
are the school districts. It has to go through the
school districts first, and they can allow or disallow it.
One hundred and seventy seven of them disallow it, three
allow it. So there you go. Maybe that'll be changing
(35:41):
now that the majority of parents who send their kids.
All right, we don't have a lot of time. Sig
Sour is in the news. They just lost a civil
case and where a man said he did not pull
the trigger, but his SIG p three to twenty piste
of fire. They could not get the gun to do
(36:02):
it again. They could not get any of the guns
to do that again. Yet he still won. Remember, in
civil liability, it's a preponderance of the evidence. Forty nine
to fifty one percent is all it takes for SIG
in this case to alert to lose two point three
five million dollars in damages. And even though the person
(36:24):
that yeah, who got shot.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, didn't he say something? He said?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
And yeah, yeah he said, I can't guarantee that it
wasn't the holster or something had gotten lodged maybe in
the trigger guard that caused the gun to go off,
and they still gave him the money.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yeah. Anyway, it's coming back. I think it's coming back.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, they will appeal that. All right, So fantastic, And
I think I may be broadcasting remote from San Diego
from the Gun Rights Policy Conference next week.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Awesome, awesome, Well they'll go there and go Hey everyone,
enjoy your great again. Take someone out shoot, make sure
you clean up after yourself.
The world's Well, we're in top ten, you know, nicely
into the top ten for gun related live radio and podcast.
So if you're listening on podcasts, well, if you're listening
at all, no matter how you hear it, welcome and
thanks for tuning in. Bill Petterson sitting across from me,
(00:20):
are you modulating over there?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I am modulating very well, modulating. Good to hear from
your clerk. Good beautiful Saturday afternoon. Glad to have everyone
listening to us on our podcast and our live radio show.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, so for mother, because I Bill handles all the buttons,
and that well, Mark handles a lot of those two.
But Bill is in charge of a lot of the
technology for a gun radio Utah. And you told me
that I was over modulating, maybe perhaps.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Over modulating, and we heard a pop, So go ahead
and slide that little button down on.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Your Really, you just heard a pop. Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
You're full of snap, crackle and pop over there in
your studio.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
All right, So I'm just gonna I'm just gonna bring
that back down here. Okay, So there we go. We'll
try that now, I am anyway, So all right, well,
let me tell you about today's about Today's Gun Radio, Utah,
we're gonna be visiting Kamala Harris and some things that
she has said that sometimes I think she well, you know,
(01:28):
she goes off. She doesn't have a teleprompter, kind of
like you know when Biden doesn't have a teleprompter and
he just keeps going off and going off on things.
She'll do that too. And when she was a district
attorney for well, she was attorney general in California, she
made a very interesting statement standing and I looked at
(01:51):
the video. She's standing right next to Governor Newsom when
she says this and didn't blink an eye. And Bill,
you're going to at some point we'll have you play
that because you've got that on there and it can
be a little hard to tell. So what we're going
to do is we're going to translate it for you
(02:13):
so that you can you know, so that you can
hear it anyway. In addition, we're going to we're gonna
talk about I just got back from Florida from Disney
from Didneyland, and we stayed at the one of the
one of the wonderful disney Land disney World resorts out there.
(02:33):
Very nice Coronado's Coronado Springs, I think it was. Anyway,
so we're there for we're there for about a week,
and it was very interesting because I didn't look it
up on the website or anything like that, and I
obviously bill I brought a gun or and come to
(02:54):
find out maybe that way I may have brought let
me say this, I may have brought a gun or two.
You know. Anyway, it was all fuzzy that whole week.
It was the humidity in that. So, uh, we're gonna
we're gonna take a look at Disney's policy and then
you know the little door cards that if you want
(03:15):
the maid to come in, you know, the house housekeeping
to come in, or if not to come in, you
can hang the thing on your door or so they
don't come in or anyway, we're going to read the
fine print literally on that door hanger. And I'm not
going to compare it to what you can do in Utah,
but it was very interesting fine print on that. Yeah,
(03:38):
so we're going to talk about that Georgia well a
case a civil case against SIGSUR and a plaintiff who
shot himself. I'm just gonna say, shot himself and the
jury awarded something like two and a half million dollars
to Sig Sour excuse me, to the plaintiff against Sig
(03:59):
Sour uh for a gun just going off. Just it
was there, it was fine, then all of a sudden, kaboom,
it just went off. Well, we're gonna, we're gonna we're
gonna look at that. We're gonna look at the evidentiary
standard for civil civil cases. So should you be involved
in a civil case or you know that kind of thing.
We're also third segment. We're going to have Representative and
(04:24):
House Majority whip carry on, Lisenbyond talking about her new
huge it's a big gun bill, and we've been talking
about this. It's a rewrite of recodification and some changes
to existing law. But it's it's gonna be big. It
is big, but it's out there and you can you
(04:45):
can download it and you can read it. It's one
hundred and two pages. And but isn't it one of those?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Isn't it one of those? It is big today, but
afterwards it'll be smaller.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's big today, the language is big today, but after
legislation up after upcoming legislation, once you all gets clarified.
Actually be smaller and simpler and easier, but it could
be bigger. It could bigger could Yeah, okay, Well I'm
excited to have her on on on and give us a.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Fantastic So we're going to talk about that. And hey,
so Randall, and in fact, you know Bill, I I
hadn't discussed this with you in prep. Well I had,
and I decided not to, but now I'm going to. Okay, okay,
so Randall, our fantastic board member reviews a lot of
(05:45):
the emails that I don't have time to and send
us send me an email that said, have you responded
to these folks? And this was a request we get.
We get this often. I'll get a request to be
interviewed by media. Typically it's local media, but we'll get
national and sometimes international media that we'll call and say, hey,
(06:06):
they want to do either a zoom interview or sometimes
an in person interview just for a story they're doing. Well,
we got this one request that they were going to
send a film crew out to Utah to interview me
about the Second Amendment and my thoughts on guns. And
they were going to want to do, you know, follow
(06:28):
me around in my office and up at the Capitol
into a shooting range and all sorts of stuff. And
I got looking at the time frame and I was
doing two things. One, I was looking at their time
frame for when they wanted to do it, what days,
And I was trying to make that work. But in
(06:50):
the same time, I said, do I want to do
that interview? And Bill, you were one of the people
I called to ask about this, and so why don't
you just tell tell the folks, tell listeners who it
was that was requesting this.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Interview, the the Al Jazeer's network.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Al Jazeera Network. Yeah, and there's a lot of should
I say, red flags that came up because as you know,
my name, if you look at my name a pocean,
it's definitely Armenian. And the Armenians are, historically, i mean,
the very first Christian nation on earth kind of surrounded
(07:31):
by non Christian folks, right, and they have been, you know,
their their numbers were more than decimated and throughout history
by this, you know, because of religion and that type
of thing. Well, Al Jazeer is predominantly, uh for the
you know, the listeners probably predominantly of the Muslim faith
(07:52):
there and the Armenians have not had good luck. No,
And I'm just trying to think, why of all the
gun rights folks in the nation would Al Jazeera pick
and our Armenian name to do that. That was just
one of the things. So we got asking. We asked
some FBI people. I went out and I asked you.
(08:12):
I asked Tom Gresham. I actually texted Tom and he
says no, oh, hell no, no, and then he.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Not but hell no.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And so then I reached out because I, you know, hey,
I you know, I don't want to you know, you
know I love stirring stuff up. You know, we do that,
but you know, when it comes to, you know, anyway, nothing.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Then I reached out to nothing good can come of this.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Well, I reached out to the commissioner, the Commissioner of
Public Safety, because I know he gets briefings and you know,
from the FEDS and and that. And I reached out
to him and he got back with me and said, uh,
probably not, Clark, probably don't want to do this because
because it's you know, Algira does not have an outlet
(09:03):
here in the United States. Since twenty sixteen, they've been
banned many many countries have banned them because of their
reporting on or their let's say, their slant of reporting
on terrorism and that kind of thing. And they've been banned.
Now that makes you wonder why some other media let
outlets in the United States haven't been banned too. But anyway,
(09:25):
and it didn't work out because we've got the Elk Hunt,
I've got gun rights policy conference coming up next week.
So it just wasn't going to work out either. But
and then and and so that's why I kind of
bowed out of it. And then come to find out,
I started hearing from everybody that I've reached out to,
so we won't do that. So that's going to be
one I'm I had to decline. Yeah, I think maybe
(09:47):
you could do it. Bill.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
No, I'm definitely not going down in there at all
at all.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Okay, no, no, no, no, all right, what have we got? Oh,
we're past time. We're a little bit past time on
this segment. So when we come back, we're gonna talk
let's talk about Kamala. You want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Kamala when we come back. Day to Bill Petterson, director,
do you touch Shooting Sports Council? Hey, you can always
jump online head over to you Touch Shooting Sports Council
dot org, dot o RG, sign up for email alerts
and uh yeah, legislation is just months away here, Clark,
and this is a great way for our listeners to
(10:26):
stay up to date and and uh know what's going
on with our our wonderful legislators and and some of
the bills that we'll be working on this upcoming session.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So well, that's true. I mean, legislation, the legislative session
is just months away, but legislation is actually already yeah,
is already is already going strong. And so that's what
we're going to be talking about with Representative Carry and
Lizzon be the House Majority Whip next segment. And oh
(10:57):
so so we were talking, Oh you know what I
gotta do. I gotta do a little shout out. I
got to do a little shout out to a wonderful
young woman that I met with with Casey Jane was
right next to me, by the way, the whole time.
Emily Emily from Arkansas. And as you like to say,
ar kansass or do you call it ar Kansas Arkansas? Yeah,
(11:21):
oh it just rubbed them the wrong way. It's Arkansas
Emily from Arkansas. Fan, I mean, just loved her everything,
her accent and shooting. She was talking about shooting through
the window through the portrait at you know, to get
deer meat and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Just really fantastic Heart of America kind of folks. And
and we we met them in Disney, I want to
say Islands of Adventure. I think we were at Disney. No, no,
not not Disney Universal. We went everywhere. I went to
Universal Studios and we went to Islands of Adventure because
Casey Jane had to go see the Harry thing.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I cant tell you a funny story though about our really, yeah,
that was one of my earlier, earlier childhood days. We're
in Arkansas outside of Little Rock, and this was my
first experience in creating and making a hollow point bullet.
Funny story, Yeah, out of thirty eight specials. We have
(12:23):
these thirty eight specials and they were lead bullets back then,
and we would just take a little pocket knife and
carve out the center of it before we loaded up,
and it did made a huge difference. We shot pumpkins
with the hollow points and without the hollow points that
we'd made, and yeah, it was pretty spectacular for a
nine year old. That was a great science project. So anyway, you.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Found that the via physics to to to mess with
the structural integrity of the lead of the bullet itself.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, more dramatic effect. Yeah, the first did across. We
just kind of took our knives and did across in
the bullet that I heard.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That's how they did dumb dumb bullets way back when it.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Might have been. But we did cross that.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
They didn't really do anything, but if you kind of
dug it out and we take you take five ten
minutes of dig one of these things out to get
a decent cavity in there.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's that's how I like my summers science class. I
never knew this about you and this was it and
the yeah, I remember it to this day. Of all
the things we did, that is the number one thing
I remember doing so.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Awesome, awesome, And and her mom, Sarah, I believe her
mom's name was Sarah, she was there. So yeah, we
just had fun time. So it will shout out to
Ed from South Carolina as well. Ed and I hung out.
We went to Shooters World in Florida. That's a big place.
Shooters World is huge yeah, two stories huge. Oh and
they had a very prominent display of goat guns, remember
(14:01):
Brad goat guns, and a prominent display of silencer co
suppressors who we're going to talk to them next week. Yeah,
all right, let's talk about Kamalin. So Kamala was on
Oprah recently, and let's see if I can pull this
up and let me see. Yeah, I think I've got
(14:24):
it ready, So hang on. And she was talking to Oprah,
who knows what. They're giggling with each other, and she
said the following. She says, you know, I'm a gun owner.
Tim Waltz is a gun owner. She starts it off
like this, So, let's see, I depend my.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Gun owner is a gun that is getting shot.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
If somebody breaks into my house, they're getting shot.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Probably should not have said that, but myself will deal
with that later.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Okay. So she said, so I'm a gun owner, Tim
Waltz's gun owner. If somebody breaks into my house, they're
getting shot. And then she says, oh, I shouldn't have
said that, and my staff will deal with that later. Well,
the thing is her staff or her secret service are
the people that are going to shoot because she doesn't
have to worry about that like you and I do.
(15:19):
And she has secret service and has either secret service
or while she was with the with California government, she
had paid for security. She hasn't had to worry about
her own safety in a long long time. And whereas
the rest of us, well, yeah, we have to now. Bill.
(15:41):
She also then mentioned, so she would have had to
had a gun in her home or she's envisioning she's
trying to be like the regular folks like you and
me who have a firearm in our home for lawful
self defense among other things. You know. And Bill, when
you get a sec can you play that thing? And
then I'll transcribe it so to speak, But well me
(16:06):
let me read it first. She's attorney General for California.
She's standing right next to Gavin news from the governor,
and she says, just so you can hear this, just
because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of
your she literally says, in the sanctity of your locked home,
doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that
(16:28):
home and check to see if you're being responsible. And folks,
this is a violation of the second, fourth and fourteenth
amendment all in one sentence bill play that bean footage.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Among everybody in the community. And just because she legally
possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home,
doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that,
mom and check to see if you're being responsible on
safety the way you conduct your fare.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So you know what's really about that whole comment that
just outside the Baptist church. So I mean, oh yeah, yeah,
I mean there standing just outside of this Baptist church.
And I mean to have the goal to be able
to say something like that in full honesty.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
She used the word sanctity, yeah, which we refer to
our home, you know, as a sanctity from the outside way.
But yet it isn't so sanctified that it can't have
agents of the government coming into your home and check
on you to determine if you are responsible whatever that means.
(17:47):
So so now keeping in line with that, we've got
a couple of minutes here, and I want to read
to you what is on the door hanger at the
Disney Springs Hotel, the Disney Resort Hotel. In tiny print,
(18:07):
It's down at the bottom of the door hanger, says
the Disney Resort Hotel and its staff reserve the right
to enter your room even when this sign is displayed
and it says room occupied for maintenance, safety, security, or
any other purpose. The Disney Resort Hotel staff will knock
(18:29):
and announce their presence before entering as applicable. Okay, I hadn't.
I just look at these door hangers. I don't even
I don't obviously not reading the fine print on them.
But somebody pointed that out to me while I was there,
and then I got looking. Guess what. You're not allowed
to have a firearm or a knife on any of
(18:53):
the Disney properties, including in the hotel where they don't
have metal attectors. They do at all the park entrances
in that But thank goodness, we live in Utah, where
your home, your residence, or even a temporary residence is
protected uh for you to have a firearm, and that's
(19:15):
written right into our code.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So that really surprises me that they would have something
like that in the state of Florida. Now I know
they handled Disneyland disney World a little different in Florida,
because what is it, They have their own police force,
They're kind of their own.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
They do and they they can literally well I think
the governor they isn't it DeSantis that has been saying
he's been pushing back at Disney though for some of
their policies because they're literally able to or have been
able to write their own zoning laws right exactly in
uh the Didney the Didney folks. So anyway, I found
(19:55):
that I found that very interesting. And yes, even in
the state of Florida. But like I've said, we don't
have that in Utah, and which is reason number six
hundred and seventy one why Utah is the best state
for gun rights. All Right, when we come back on
Gun Radio Utah, we're going to have Representative carry and
listenby talking about her new bill. So stay tuned and
(20:15):
welcome back to Gun Radio Utah. There are no apologies.
And like Bill had said that the legislative session is
drawing near, it will be January twenty. I want to
say the twenty first. I know it's right around John M.
Browning's birthday every year, so it's right around that time
(20:35):
and in line with that and especially keeping with firearm
and weapon modifications, we have Representative House Majority Whip carry
on listenby Representative listenby welcome back to gun Radio, Utah.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Thank you Clark.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
All right, and just a check because we're doing this
connection a little bit different. Bill and Mark, can you
hear can you hear Carrie in yes?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Sounds great?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, okay, good, thank you very much. All right. So
and we won't get a delay on this one that way. So,
represent Elizabeth, you've got a bill. Well, actually it's it's
not under your name, but we have I think it's
Representative Gwin that's running it.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Is that right, No, it's actually my bill. It's a
it's a recons what went through a subcommittee that represented
Wins it actually chairs.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
So okay, and this is not your I mean a
lot of gun bills are two three four pages. This
one is one hundred and two pages. Am I right?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
It's yeah, it's a long bill.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It's been worked on for a long time. LED Research
has worked with you for quite a while on this
one because, as we have heard often among legislators, among
regular folks, you tusk gun you have to kind of
get a PhD in them to understand them. Because of
(22:05):
all the back and forth and the references here and there.
What is the requodification primarily doing.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Thank you clerk. So that's a great question, and primarily
it's just cleaning it up and clarifying. Citizens should know
their rights. They should be able to get on the website,
read what the law is, and then act accordingly. And
right now, there are even some contradictory codes, as you
(22:35):
know in our firearm section, and so we are just
trying to clean the holding up, clarify. But in doing that,
obviously there are some policy calls that have to be
made as we are clarifying or making sure that there
are no contradictory codes. So what the bill does and
(23:00):
some of the policy calls we've made are also because
of developing case law. The Bruin case actually significantly changed
the landscape in America. And so one of the first
things that I would like to address is there was
an article that was published by I guess article is generous.
(23:21):
There was a blog post by an individual in Utah
who really didn't understand and clearly hadn't read through the
bill or even listened to the bill presentation. But the
bill does say that for anybody in Utah eighteen years
and older, you can open carry a firearm in the state,
(23:44):
and for anybody twenty one years of age and older
in the state that has been the law. What hasn't
been the law is eighteen to twenty one year olds.
You could in some instances if you were eighteen to
twenty one, for instance, in a car, but you couldn't
just just everywhere, obviously, with the exceptions of K twelve,
(24:09):
school grounds, federal buildings, things like that. You know that
I ran eight years ago now the provisional carry permit
that allowed eighteen to twenty one year olds to get
a provisional carry to conceal carry. So basically, we're just clarifying. Look,
we're treating all adults the same, and we're doing the
same thing with the vehicle statue as well.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
And if I may jump in here, we're treating all
adults the same. It's not a huge leap though. First off,
we're not the first date to do this. There are
at least a dozen states I can think of right
now where we haven't seen any pattern of problems, let
alone even individual instances that I can think that I
can rend it of. And I mean eighteen year olds
(24:56):
literally could for over a decade in Utah have a
as long as they were otherwise lawfully in possession of it,
a loaded handgun in their vehicle, and we haven't seen
I cannot remember in and of itself if they were,
you know, as long as other than those that were
(25:17):
illegally in possession of this. But the otherwise lawful carrying
has been a problem. I certainly haven't seen a pattern
of it either.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Right absolutely, And you know, we do have a pretty
strong criminal code. There are things that are against the law,
and those should be prosecuted, but what shouldn't be prosecuted
is somebody exercising the fundamental constitutional rights. And so you
know that that in the past we've worked together to
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make sure that that didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Happen as well.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
So the other one, some of the other kind of
policy calls that we've made in the bill. One is
dealing with NFA items. So as you know, we had
we'd listen in code three NFA firearms, but not all
NFA firearms, and so we basically are just changing that
to say NFA firearms instead of just listing out three
(26:13):
of them, so that we can be clear to our
citizens with the laws. If they don't know what an
NFA firearms, they should go look it up, that's a
federal law, and comply with the federal law. And one
of the concerns is, you know, the federal government is
so good at regulating our lives. And I'm speaking tongue
in cheek here, but you know, they often change the
(26:36):
code and it's hard for the regular citizen to know
what the law is. And so we actually inserted a
protection for Utah residence if they, for instance, are at
a gun range and using an item that maybe is
newly recognized by the ATF as an NFA item, or
(26:57):
Congress has changed the law and they don't know about it.
They would have to knowingly and intentionally know about it
to perhaps, you know, hands a minor an item and
you know, in a scout activity or so something.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So something is innocuous as a pistol braced pistol, correct
that that we've always considered a pistol with a with
a brace on it. But then the Feds, you know,
from one week to another change it from a pistol
to a short beld rifle back to a pistol again,
and so on and so forth, and one would have
(27:33):
been prohibited for a minor to possess, and then the
other wouldn't have.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Been correct, and so we're just saying, hey, you have
to have knowingly and intentionally and behaved in a reckless manner.
And that's to protect those parents, the scout leaders who
aren't intentionally breaking a lot, who are not doing anything
in a dangerous way.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So, so Representative, I got a question for you. It
sounds like you've got a section in here with n
FA items, and let's talk specifically about it. Probably is
probably titled clark Potion's bump stock, and we like to
bring this up because he still has not got his
(28:20):
bump stock back.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
All right, Bill, all right, Bill, I did get another
I did get a text message from the special agent
and I can pick it up this next week. So
there you go. So clear, So clear your calendar, Bill,
you'll come with me.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Okay, So Representative, how have you you've shared this with NRA,
I L A, I take it, and some price some others.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
What's there? Yeah, what's their overall.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Take so far? I have I've not received any pushback.
I've talked with law enforcement. I've talked, I mean obviously
presented it to the public and a committee hearing or
subcommittee hearing, and the only pushback that I've had on
this is from a very liberal former journalist who just
(29:08):
couldn't read the lawn and publish something.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And it became journalists don't care.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Trendzy for a minute until they were corrected. But you know,
I think, honestly the conversation is important and I'll listen
to anybody anytime. You know that I'm like that, and
I have not heard any concerns.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Okay, So here's a question for you. And I do
know this bill quite well, and is there anything in
the one hundred and two pages of this bill that
takes away any existing ability with firearms that we have
right now? Absolutely not, Okay, So it either adds to
(29:54):
it or keeps it the same. It adds to our
existing ability or keeps it the same.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Right, Yeah, And I'm glad brought that up because the
one final thing I think I would like to say
about the bill of We Have Time is I think
in current code and our legislative drafters agree, and even
our higher ed institutions agree that it's not appropriate for
anybody who's a lease or or a person who is
(30:21):
creating contract to prohibit firearm on somebody's lawful residents through
a lease agreement, and our code currently prohibits that in
several sections. However, for a long time now, our higher
ed institutions have misinterpreted that and have infringed on students'
(30:42):
fundamental rights to protect themselves, to defend themselves, and to
possess in their domicile. And so what this bill does
is it just clarifies it even more. It doesn't add
a right, it doesn't take away right because like I said,
our law has said that for years. But it is
clarifying that. And we are hoping that le source stop
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abusing the contract to force Lise's to rent a property
and sign something that says they won't have a firearm
on premise. We are working on that. I think that's
important and.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
We appreciate that very much. This has been representative carry
and listenby House Majority Whip for the Utah State Legislature.
Thank you very much for being back on Gun Radio Utah.
We have to have you back on hosting again, maybe
maybe here pretty soon. And because we've got l hunts
and we've got all sorts of stuff that we've got
to do. Do you have bill, Do you have any
(31:42):
guns that that need some adjusting?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, some work some stuff. Oh, by the way, did
you see that that new cookbook that's out in Ohio? Yeah,
how to walk your dog Dog.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Anyway, Sorry, okay, so if you're going to go down
that path, here's another one.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, we went down that path. But you know what, though,
I mean, it's got to be confusing when people name
their dogs peanut or brisket. Speaking of one person, I know,
because these are these are edible foods. And did you
not name did you not have a family that named
their dog brisket?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well, yeah, she hadn't.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
What do we expect? What are we supposed to do? Brough?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
She had another one named apple strudle, and then another
one named potato brisket.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
It was kind of right in the.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
You see what I mean, Brisket is just asking, it's
just asking for that dog to go missing.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
So, hey, didn't you hear about this? And then let's say, Clark,
did you hear about this in the news?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
What? What? No infidel Infidel founding? Oh yet, all right, Bill?
You know what?
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Could be a lot calling. So anyway, I'm I have
no response to that. I have no response to that anyway.
What I do have a response to is if your
gun is broken, if it needs refinishing, if it needs
Sarah coding, if it needs engraving, if it needs the
stock fixing, machining work, whatever needs to happen to your firearm.
(33:28):
Maybe it's just not functioning right, get it over to
the gunsmith. The gunsmith at Sportsman's Warehouse will take care
of that. You can take it down to them at
sixteen thirty South fifty seventy West in Salt Lake City,
give them a call at eight to one three zero
four eighty seventy eight one three zero four eighty seventy
or take it into any of the over one hundred
and forty six Sportsmen's Warehouse locations. They will get it
(33:50):
taken care of, and the good folks over there at
the gunsmith will give you a call and find out
exactly what needs to happen to your firearm. Now, Bill,
thank you very much for that little thing there. Hey,
remember the the murderous kid in al Apachie Appalachi High
(34:12):
School in Georgia. Yeah, and this again reminds me to
remind you that if you have a concealed carry permit
in the state of Utah, you can carry in a school.
If you're a school teacher, if you're a custodian, if
you're a parent, if you're a librarian, if you're an administer,
(34:33):
I don't care. If you have a concealed carry permit,
you're allowed to. A're not restricted. You're not disarmed. I'm
not going to say allowed to. You're not disarmed when
you go into the school, like in so many schools,
including the state of Georgia. And so they did a
little poll right after that that kid went on a
murder spree and found that a majority of Georgia parents
(34:58):
who have kids in the school want teachers to pack heat,
so to speak. This was out of the New York Post.
Gen Karski aj A. G Garski wrote this in the
New York Post just this last week, and a majority
of parents given that. Now, so what are the stats
(35:20):
in that for out of one hundred and eighty school
districts in Georgia, three of them allow it because they
are the school districts. It has to go through the
school districts first, and they can allow or disallow it.
One hundred and seventy seven of them disallow it, three
allow it. So there you go. Maybe that'll be changing
(35:41):
now that the majority of parents who send their kids.
All right, we don't have a lot of time. Sig
Sour is in the news. They just lost a civil
case and where a man said he did not pull
the trigger, but his SIG p three to twenty piste
of fire. They could not get the gun to do
(36:02):
it again. They could not get any of the guns
to do that again. Yet he still won. Remember, in
civil liability, it's a preponderance of the evidence. Forty nine
to fifty one percent is all it takes for SIG
in this case to alert to lose two point three
five million dollars in damages. And even though the person
(36:24):
that yeah, who got shot.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, didn't he say something? He said?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
And yeah, yeah he said, I can't guarantee that it
wasn't the holster or something had gotten lodged maybe in
the trigger guard that caused the gun to go off,
and they still gave him the money.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yeah. Anyway, it's coming back. I think it's coming back.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, they will appeal that. All right, So fantastic, And
I think I may be broadcasting remote from San Diego
from the Gun Rights Policy Conference next week.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Awesome, awesome, Well they'll go there and go Hey everyone,
enjoy your great again. Take someone out shoot, make sure
you clean up after yourself.
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