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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are live at SHOOTA twenty twenty five and beautiful
Sarahtoga Springs Utah at the Soldier Soldier the Soldier Walder
Pass Soldier.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Pass Shooting Range. I always want to say children. Anyway,
it is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
There are FRTs if you know what I mean, Force
three set triggers on M one thirty four mini guns.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I guess that's the only way you can shoot that fast.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Anyway, we have got a huge show for you today.
We are joined by Alex Alex of Shootah Alex, this
is this is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Also, you picked a perfect take, Oh my gosh, a.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Perfect day shoe.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
You know what's funny about that, Clark, I actually looked
into it quite a bit. There's a lot of historical
data on this weekend, being a very mild weekend. I
looked about twenty years worth of data to look at
this make sure it was a good day for us.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You literally got that hot.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
You actually love that day day.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We're good.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Pay that guy very well. Where you get that data from?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Fantastic? I I know I had to pull you around.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You are a busy and you have an entourage with you,
and busy. I had to pull you away from the
Facacia bread place. Yeah, yeah, so that was that was
pretty easy. And then uh, but wow, we've got many guns,
We've got humvies, we've got you've got everything.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You've got a helicopter.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
After giving rides. Next year we're gonna shoot from the helicopters.
The last minute thing that we could.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Figure out, but we will figure it out for next year.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
How do you find the running targets for a helicopter?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Uh, suppressors galore, so many, so many Utah companies too.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So no fantastic Utah companies. We are going to have on.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Lots of Utah companies, including Mike Pappas with Dead Air.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
We've got Alpine Innovations.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Darren is going to be on and we've got what
but you know, a real special one and we've got
for next segment.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
He is Matt the Collector.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Matt the Collector, a good friend of mine. What I understand,
he has the largest private collection of firearms.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
In the nation.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Set bigger than that, sound like a challenge.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
He made an entire basement just for his gun collection. Okay, challenge.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
If you go on YouTube, you can see Matt the
Collector and not only guns but he has cars and
he has you know, other stuff too, a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
He's a man of hard to please if you will,
and we're gonna we're.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Gonna have him on. But let's talk about Shootout twenty
twenty five. Talk about it.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
It's been the biggest shoot taught to date. We've had
so many tickets, so many people showing up. It's been
a ton of fun and and uh, it just gets
getting better and better and we put more and more
effort into it. So we appreciate all the support that
everyone's been having.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You see, I see, I see.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well literally, you know, husband's wives, moms, dads, their kids,
their dogs.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
And food trucks galore, I mean of food, and they're
selling Now I'm a little concerned, really, people they're selling out,
closing up.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Swag everywhere everywhere, Lots and lots of swag if you like,
patches and stickers and cups and pens, and.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Utah is the mecca for a lot of firearms companies,
so it makes it really easy to host an event
like this. We have a lot of suppressor companies, a
lot of very innovative gun companies here in Utah, and
it makes it possible for us to throw an event
like this.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, that's off for this when when this one ends?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And it ends at five o'clock today, right, okay, so
when do you start gearing up for the next for
shoot took twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
She got my permit for next year a few weeks ago,
so we're already We're already good to go on a
sixteenth next year, same weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So it Oh yeah, okay, that's nice. So Chuck, So Chuck,
I'll have to remind uh. I have to have a
little shout out. I think Chuck is calling me anyway.
So anyway, Uh, this is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It does get bigger every year, or does it's And
the parking is easy.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Everything is fantastic. And you've got Main Street here, which.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So if you if you, if you're able to come
here before five o'clock. We are located right on Main Street,
right next to Utah Shooting Sports Council booth, right next
to Women for Gun Rights, uh, and across from the
Facascia bread Place. But that's the that's the only thing
that isn't gun gun related.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, we got a non shooting booth section that is
relevant I think to our market. Yeah, and then we
got the shooting section, which obviously brings a lot of
the fun.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
All right, exactly, Alex, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
How can people find out more about Utah Shooters and
shoot to.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, follow us on Instagram at Utah Shooters. We'll post
all the content for shootah and then if you just
google shoota you'll be able to find tickets for next
year's event.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Awesome, Alex, thank you so much for And I'm gonna
have you hand the mic right there to the another
Alex and Alex that I just met today.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Alex, you're not a colonel.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I'm not a colonel.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You you're the only other I want to I don't
want to say odd man out in this place.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
But you don't have well, no, he doesn't have it.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Is gun really related related you?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's it's called Colonel.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Stogy is the name of the company, and our product
is Stogy mag And it's a travel humidor that functions
just like an AR fifteen mag.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
It uh, it's rapid deployment for your cigars.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So it's California complaint.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Is California compliant?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yes, sir? Literally? Is it? So to look at it?
It comes in different colors and in different colors.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Color is black, but we have an od green that's
coming out and a desert tan as well.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It looks like a big fifty BMG magazine.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yes, and it it.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Was moodled after hold Robusto's what.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's going to be Robusto sized. So five P fifty
is the perfect stick for it. And it's perfect for outings.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
You're going hunting, you're going to the range, out on
the boat, out on the boat. It's got a custom
humidity pack in it that'll keep the cigars fresh, and
we saw refills for that of course.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Golf Ford, I'm just trying to I'm just thinking of
all the different things. And you literally got rapidly to
play what cools?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yes, school cool, Yes, school's bill, Thank you bill, thank
you for so it's a rapid deployment for your tobacco
related raboostos or cigars and is so dang cool.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And as I walk around here, I keep smelling that.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I personally don't mind the smell of cigar smoke and
ask the stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
It's an acquired taste. You either love it or you don't,
and that's okay both ways.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
How do we people find out about so stogy Mag
is the website. We also have it on on Instagram
which is stogy Mag. And we're a perfect gift for
for Father's Day and uh oh.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I am now and give him as Christmas.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
You got them, you can.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Father's Day is right around the corner. If they literally
will filt right down your belt. We've got a battle
belting out for them. We've got a plate carrier, mounth
a barbecue. Can you imagine I had a barbecue in
that and them?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
So stogy mag is it and people absolutely love it or.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
A great gift for you know, a father with a newborn.
Oh you know, I've done it. Wedding parties.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
We've got a lot of a lot of folks that
that want to protectic that's.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And it literally is a built in humidor inside it.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
Correct, it's got a humidity pack that controls the tobacco.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Uh humidity. All right, give me that website again. It's
stoveymag dot com.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Is there any other like social media or Instagram mag
on social media and uh on Instagram and uh yeah, fantastic, Alex,
thank you so much for being on Gun Radio Utah.
We are going to be back and hopefully the Collector.
Matt the Collector is going to be on second segment.
So hopefully I'm getting I'm getting some some interesting uh
(07:45):
stuff from our from our media coordinator here. But anyway,
when we come back on Gun Radio Utah, stay tuned
bye out here in Utah County outside of Saratoga screens.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
And I tell you we are having a blast today,
and we have got so much a cover clerk.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
We've got a new guest here. I'm gonna let you
introduce him.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
We're gonna go right into this because I want to
use all the time we can in this segment. We've
got Matt the Collector here with us.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Okay, So I got to tell you there's this there's
this new thing out there called YouTube and it has videos.
It's a new it's a fairly new thing. It's got YouTube,
it's got videos. It's got and there's an Instagram type
of thing. It's instant yeah, and there's a yeah and
there's X in that and it's a new thing. But uh,
but if you're if you've accustomed to that, then you've
(08:30):
got to know Matt the Collector. Matt, welcome to Gun
Radio Utah.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Thanks for having me. Hi, So I grabbed you. You
have like an entourage around you. You're a very popular person.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And uh supposedly I'm told that your gun collection rival's mind.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Maybe.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
I mean, I know there's a lot out there that's
better than mine. But those guys don't like to be
known about, right, right, right right, I know those guys.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
That's more of a myth, that's more of that's in
the ethereal. We don't even know if they really have
guns or not.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Don't talk about the rooms and they have a back room.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, but you unapologetically talk about your gun You have
a lot of You have a huge can I say
a basement?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah you will.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I have like six hundred guns. You're to count them all.
It's around six hundred that's including the antiques.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Wow, okay, Okay with that said, though, how what's that?
What's that separation between modern guns and antique guns?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Because I love antique wife?
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Actually, Oh, she's the one she started collecting before I
even met her.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Wait, who did really started collecting?
Speaker 8 (09:38):
I had the hell yeah, and she's actually the gun
car girl her. Okay, So she loves her the antiques,
and I always joking with her and that you like
those antiques because you were there.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Then you say.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Arms right, Okay, you know I always say she's my
favorite antique, and I catch out for it, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, Casey Jang would slap me upside so and she.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Knows I'm joking, but no, she started and then what
were you? Well back when I where I used to work,
she worked there as well, and so that's how we
got to know each other. And then that's when she
told me what she was into and I was into
the same thing.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And basically it just went nuts.
Speaker 8 (10:23):
So she collects the old stuff, and she has some
family members that are big collectors too, gentlemen's with people
with you know, the original cannons.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
From the Okay, yeah, so I know some of those guys.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
So I's why I know there's better collections out through
the mind because I've met the guys who have them.
But the transition was kind of weird. It's just I
just started going nuts, and they said, okay I wanted
you know, I just started buying them up, but left
and right. I would go to auctions and buy twenty
thirty guns at one time.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh my gosh, and I just make.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Everybody mad, not intentionally, right, it's just if I see it,
I'm gonna buy this.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I wanted my shirt.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
They could see you there and they're like, oh.
Speaker 9 (11:02):
Well back in the day, yeah before YouTube.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Yes, But you know, I look at Rock Island a
lot to see what there's out there.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And I use Rock Island and that kind of thing.
Is this is why I could compare. When I get
their books they send.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
Out, I compare what the prices are going for with
like stuff I have.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
Okay, you know I do a comparison, so for insurance
purposes stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, So when you when you in your collection, is
there one a style of firearm that you kind of
lean toward versus another smaller caliber versus night my favorite.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I know who your child is.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Yeah, but no, it's I like bolt guns. I like
long okay, long range to pick a certain guy and
be difficult.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, I may do that. Well, I can't do that
situation you're.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
In right, so for me, and Clark will attest to
this as well. Nineteen eleven. I love the nineteen eleven
any day, any day out, but when the fall comes,
I lose the nineteen eleven. I go to the tars
judge because I love being outdoors and shooting your house
and target shooting whatever. So he goes, he shoots, I shoot, Yeah,
(12:15):
he's seen a field. Yeah, but you know, it kind
of goes. But I to be honestly, I love rim fires.
They're yeah, they're just a riot.
Speaker 8 (12:24):
I actually bought like a week ago, a thousand rounds
of ten twenty two.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I thousd so cheat, ten thousands so cheap.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I didn't mean to, I didn't free.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
So you basically get it on a palette.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, you ps guys a little ticked off.
Oh no, they we're got. I get to be best
buds with the FedEx guy. You guessed.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So probably not best buds because they got to carry
that stuff because.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
I make sure if I know it's coming, I'll leave
like dolly out for him form because I don't want
to break your back.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, I want to keep them on my good side.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So right, So what do you see So you've you've
got you've got a big range from the antique to
the to the modern to the very modern.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
What do you see as it? What's the next innovation?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I'm thinking, you know, when we went from black powder
to smokeless powder, or muzzleloader to self contained cartridges.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I don't know. That's a tough question.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Will you have one? Let me that's come out? I
see it if you see Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
But that's why one of my shirts is if I
like it, I buy it. It's like the act came
from when I was buying cars all the time. This
is by sitting and I ended up buying it.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Really. Yeah, that's where that came from. Okay, because the
wife said, can't sit in it, no dealership.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Do you remember your first gun?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yes, my first gun was take that back. Everybody had
to be begod. So I had Yeah, I had one.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
I used to cut off the stock, the backstock, and
I cut off the barrel so I can make.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It like it is.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Really Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
And I used to take twenty two's and put them
in the ground and shoot the back of the twenty
twos and market explosions for army man stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So we did that when I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
What what state was this?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Indiana?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Indiana?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (13:55):
So and then I got it then when my my
favorite gun, probably I have currently is my dad's twenty two.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Oh really, thank you for saying that you have your dad's.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
I have my dad's win too and his original Captive
when he was a kid, though I will never sell those.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
If I grab if the house is on fire, I
grabbed the wife unless she's maybe mad, and grabbed the
dogs grabb My dad's went too, and that's it.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Everybody else is insured.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I'm glad to hear you say that, because I have
my dad's twenty two and.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
It's a people I can't see it through the damn
things to save my life, my eyes suck. So yeah,
otherwise it's it'd be that gun because I've never seen
one like it because before and grip turns down and
everything else. So it's yeah, I never seen one like it,
to be honest with.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So mine is actually a Springfield Model eighty four twenty two.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I don't think Springfield made it, right.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Because I've seen so many other I think they just
had the name on it. It's not a real expensive one,
but it was one Dad had and he won it
for delivering papers on a paper route, right, and you
know it's bad.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, my dad loves Dad used to I used
to go, I always my first gun I ever shot,
it was my dad point two. Yeah, and I have
a sixty engaged tip. Okay, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So if people want to find out and and because
your your YouTube channel is so inviting, it's so it's addictive. Really,
Matt the Collector, all you got to do is just
just do the search on that.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
Man on Instagram shadow band, So you got to type
in the whole thing. It's the collector, underscore collector y T.
I think it's it's the collector Underscore. No, the the
underscore collector underscored y T.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay, that's yeah, because you so just an underscore in between. Yeah, okay, exactly.
Speaker 9 (15:39):
So that's pain. But I could tell you something that's coming.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Okay, okay, Gun Radio, you're.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Gonna hear this. You know I clicked the cabins right yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
They're making a gun named after me, and they're gonna
make it serious.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
No, I didn't get the one.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
Meteor grips, meteorite trigger, meteorite sites full Damascus wow slide.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
But well when you say Damascus right there, just.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Right, we're talking millions of years old.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
Yeah, because I had one already. I got one of
the first prototypes. And maybe you're right, you folks.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You heard it on Gun radio, Utah, you got the collector.
Speaker 8 (16:19):
Barrels, two barrels, one comped and one threaded.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
That's awesome. That's awesome. So what's next year though? That's ancher.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Yeah, well we're gonna have to have your back and
bring the gun into the studio and show it I do.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Oh yeah, you guys could come out to the ranch
and do it. Okay, you could do this out there.
Oh hear that?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Out invited me to the ranch.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Do you guys come like that better and do it
from there in the hallways?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
We got in trouble.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, so yeah, So what advice? Last question?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
What advice do you have for somebody that wants that,
that is interested in firearms and wants to maybe start
a collection.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
What do you have any advice?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
That's tough on?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:57):
I tell people it's sometimes I compare buying a car.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Buying guns is like buying a car. I mean, if
it's not fast enough, you want to build it, DA
make it fastest, right, right? So I always say, you know,
buy a decent ar list four thousand bucks maybe and
then stup it to make it what you want.
Speaker 9 (17:14):
You don't have to buy five thousand dollars ar and
have triggers you're not used to and everything else, huh
on long guns.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I'm one of these people that.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
My bolt guns had the same trigger twesday, Sugar and
every single gun.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
So if you do that same principle and interesting.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Yeah, Now I learned that same principle from three gunning
using a twenty two long rifle upper on my ar right,
so I could have the same trigger basically, and I
could in practice with And I'm I'm.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
A better rifle shooter than I am a pistol shooter.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I admit that. All that good day.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
But yeah, no, once once you guys come out, you
guys could actually do one at the ranch.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's fantastic. All appreciate the invitation. Yeah, Matt the Collector,
thank you very much for being on gun Radio YouTube.
Appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Okay, And when we come back, we've got more and
more and more to cover here at gun Radio Utah.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Stay tuned to that. Why not.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Welcome back to gun Radio Utah.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
We are live from SHOOTA twenty twenty five in beautiful
Saratoga Springs at the Soldier Pass Shooting Range.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So that's cute?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
So is it? Yeah? And by the way, that dog
that was over there on the side. That's your team.
That's on your team, and you know how the teams
are played, Bill.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So anyway, uh we Hey, without any further ado, Johnny,
you are the man here.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You're the everybody knows who you are, what you're doing,
and it's like, well, I gotta do this, Well you
got to talk to Johnny. Well what about that? You
gotta talk to Johnny?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
All right, So Johnny, we have you right here at
gun Radio Utah and among the other what do you
do here at Shoetah.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
But then we're going to talk about something else.
Speaker 10 (18:48):
Yeah, yeah, So Alex and I Cohn shoot, Alex and
I Coned Shootah, Utah Shooters, shoots a w in the
event that we're at today.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
So love to have all the companies out from Utah.
Speaker 10 (18:59):
But also all the company national brands that are out
six hours out here, some of the bigger brands coming
out to show off to the Utah two a community,
as you guys know, is thriving.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Oh you got that top rocks when it comes to guns.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
Absolutely, and that's that's a big part of why I'm
here today. I also own ClearPath Marketing, which is a
marketing firm specifically for the firearms industry, and we work
with clients and and pair influencers with clients. Get a
website on that, Yeah, Clearpathmarketing dot net is the website there.
So we do everything under the marketing umbrella for that.
But we're here to talk about.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Nice to know you another talking about another utah com
pretty that you just happened to own.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Jac No, j C.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Steele? Hi, thank you?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Bill?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
J C.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Steele?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
And you can find it at where's my stupid notes?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Hold on?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Are they right over here? Okay?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Oh yeah, Jacy Steele, iwear dot com. You know I've
only looked at this twenty time. There's your that's your dog,
and then J C. Steele, iwear dot com. We're gonna
go on extra on that, and so so I.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Went by that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I didn't realize it was I had anything to do
with you. So I'm looking at these glasses. I'm looking
at your guy, Cameron, Cameron.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Clark by the way, last name.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, and uh, and he had the coolest glasses on.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
They're really cool there and they're shooting glasses.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
And then he tried he had me put them on
and it was like a soothing, a soothing something for.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
My eye, a little relaxing for you.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
So the instant I put them on and he didn't
tell me anything about it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So anyway, tell us about Jason steele I Wear.
Speaker 10 (20:34):
So, I mean, the main reason why we started jac
still Iewear was to create ballistic protection sunglasses that had
UV protection, that had the polarization but also exceeded this
standard for safety.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
So in order to meet the.
Speaker 10 (20:50):
Standard for the NZA seven, you have to be at
a point seventy five thickness lens. Almost all of our
lenses are point one five to two millimeters sticks, so
we tried.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
To go above and beyond for that.
Speaker 10 (21:01):
But also we we tried to be a little crazy
with some of the styles and they're extremely.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Comfortable when you have a wide variety of styles.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I really recommend uh check out Jacy steeleyewear dot com.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I think you're gonna be pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Now on the on the website, you can't try them on,
but you got you got to check these things out.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
You won't be you won't be, you won't be sorry.
Absolutely next year you try them on your face.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Fantastic, Johnny thank you so much for being on gun
Radio Utah and if you would, uh can we are
we are we We're good for me. Just check yeah,
hand that right over to uh the the field Marshal,
I call them the field marsh We're on right now. Yeah,
we're yeah, we are on. I can't be we are on.
(21:47):
We are we are number six in the nation.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Uh right now.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And we have Mike Pappas with dead Air Suppressors and
we're gonna go, okay, thanks, thanks, what's that?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Well? Can't we move up to the one slot?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
We could?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But you know what, we were at number two and
then we had you on last time and we dropped down.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
To like number twelve or thirteen, so something like that.
You've clogged that all right? So Mike, I got to
ask you, dead Air.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
The name in the coolest You've got to be the
coolest name in suppressors. You're a Utah I'm gonna say
you're a Utah company. I know there's another state out there,
blah blah blah. We are.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Okay, so you're a Utah company. Why suppress? And why
suppress now?
Speaker 11 (22:30):
Because there's never been a better time to suppress. As
you look around the industry, and for example, we do
a couple of cans for Ruger.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
We're going to do some more business with Ruger.
Speaker 11 (22:44):
When people like Ruger just for example, are getting into it, Remington,
Smith and Wesson, it's become very common, the stigma.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Of you know, you're not really an.
Speaker 11 (22:58):
Outlier with a silence or anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
You're kind of.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Basically though still they're just your customers are assassins essentially, right,
isn't that.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
What they basically? Forget that they are, But we shouldn't
say that.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Well, I said, there's no apologies on gunn radio utah. Alright,
by a suppressor, you are essentially an assassin.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, you're right. Forget what I said there.
Speaker 11 (23:24):
You know that just the calmness and the joy of
shooting without all the noise and the recoil reduction is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I did hear the ATF or no, the the Yeah,
the ATF came out and said that they wanted suppressors
for health and safety.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, and they're just making that up all right.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, that's just I don't know, I mean along with them, but.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
Yeah, yeah, all right, so I think it must give
you some more safety communication and all that yeah, absolutely, So,
I mean, don't we.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Get enough suppression from the federal government right now? Aren't
they suppressing us already?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
No, I think they could do more if they wanted to.
I'm trying to try my glasses that.
Speaker 11 (24:07):
Full guy, it could be way worse.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
All right, what's new? What you gotta tell us? What's new? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I mean from us?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, and don't say the Sandman because that Okay, he
wasn't going to say.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
That's not what I was gonna say at all.
Speaker 11 (24:20):
What I was gonna say is I think we have
kind of as manufacturing techniques, and you know, mankind is
always making things better, different, smaller, lighter, faster, YadA, YadA.
We've been doing a lot of three D printing lately,
and three D printing has allowed us to make some
(24:41):
very low back pressure but very good sounding products.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Okay, tell for the uninformed, tell us why is low
back pressure good?
Speaker 11 (24:50):
Well, you the main reason, I think in our game,
and there's the obvious ingestion of you know, toxic substances,
heavy metal.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Through the open open right. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (25:06):
So the the thing that gives you the noise is
the temperature differential. So, for example, if I had an
oxygen a settling torch and cranked it up but didn't
light it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You wouldn't even know it was on.
Speaker 11 (25:25):
Okay, but when I strike it, what we have there
is twenty five hundred degree air and fifty degree air,
and now you have to yell over it. And a
gunshot puts this superheated blast of air and just pounds
it out.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Into a huge burst into cold air.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
That's why a gun shure.
Speaker 11 (25:46):
It's louder the colder it is, the more timp differential
you have, right.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I didn't know that, so interesting, right, it is interesting
actually science stuff.
Speaker 11 (25:56):
When you fire a rifle, then your silence has more
back pressure. Then it's louder at the ejection for it
on a semi auto.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And that's referred to as pork pop.
Speaker 11 (26:11):
So the lower the back pressure that your silencer is
you then get, then you starting to get into a
thing called washback, which is the silencer should be louder
than the port of your gun. Right, So that's what
you hear if you have a very high back pressure
can on an AR fifteen, you're gonna hear the port,
(26:31):
you won't hear the muzzle.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So what you're able to do with the new three
d printing technology in that and utilizing that is to
reduce the back pressure.
Speaker 11 (26:41):
Correct and people have been doing this for a very
long time, but they general speak, have focused so much
on the reduced back pressure and the port noise that
you've gotten this wash off in a loud muzzle. So
we have kind of broken the cup if we do
mostly like a hybrid design. So we have a design
(27:04):
that we've patent it called Triskelion, which is very low
back pressure, and then we print three cones in like
the end of a Mahave forty five, a pistol silencer
of ours or a sam mat x a New Hanes
two eighty two low back pressure print hybred with three.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Cones in the end. I'll put against anything on it.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
So you just said it the hybrid.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
It's so you're using different materials in different parts of
the suppressor.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
Yeah, we're using new material and we're using a combination
of cones and low back pressure, Okay, all into one
thing to try to give you the very best experience
as a shooter an observer.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
You know, spark ground disruption, all that service.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That pounding you heard on the table was just like
Krush Jeff when he was pounding his shoe on the
table at the United Nations as the But that's so,
how do people find out more about dead air Because
you've got a heck of a dead air law.
Speaker 11 (28:00):
Their silencers dot com, you can look us up on Instagram, Facebook, x,
all the regular normal places that you'd think we are
there lurking around waiting to.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Are you in any of the videos?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Mike once in a great while, I'm in a video.
Speaker 11 (28:18):
I used to be in a lot of videos, but
then we got very elegante that do it now so.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
They don't have to shelp me as much.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Miketfield, Marshal, Mike Pappas Dead Airror Silencers, thank you so
much for being on gun Radio UT.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I appreciate you. Thank you awesome.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
And when we come back, we have got more and
more interviews to do here at gun Radiota.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Stay tuned and.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Uh a special thanks to Cindy for corraling everything today.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yes, yes, and our new media coordinator.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Is that Casey Jank. Casey Jank didn't make it today.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Casey Bear, give me a call. Yeah, okay, before I talked.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
To me, Well I did.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I did send you a text message that said how
much I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Bill. Hey, I look shout out to Ron.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
He's former DA and Sandy City cop and uh and
he's a he's a gun radio Utah listener.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
So that makes three people right there.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yep, that's Hey.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
We've got a great company here. We met them just
earlier today at the show here, but they're right across
our booth, True Blue. We've got Andy from True Blue
Gun Lubricants. Now, what makes you stand out that I
wanted to get you on the show is we're not
talking about CLRs or gun loops.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Or anything CLPA.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
We're talking about some of that's very unique for suppressors,
and Utah is a very strong suppressor orient company. I
want to give you a couple of minutes tell us
a little bit about your product, which you've got so
is called suppressor syrup and this was developed for to
keep carbon from bonding to the surfaces on the internals,
(30:05):
makes them easier to clean, eliminates carbon lock and so
the whole process of you know, carbon lock is a
real problem on applications and things, so this makes that
So applying it to the threads modular suppressor threads in
any of the mounts, it just makes those things easier
(30:25):
to end the baffles right, and the baffles to keep
the backups clean, so so they're easier to those areas
are easier to clean off. Now, this is an ingenious
product because I hadn't seen anything like it, but it
just makes sense for the suppressor industry.
Speaker 12 (30:42):
Yes, and there's no other product like this on the market.
And really it's kind of our jewel in our product line.
And I'm really proud of happy with this. We've got
suppressor companies who's using it, introduced it to them, a
lot of talk to a lot of them said, well,
we have problems.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Is our solution.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Anding about thirty seconds?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Here tell us how it is used, how the user
applies it, and how they would you know, wipe you
from a clean gun.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I'm assuming you start from a clean gun as clean
as possible.
Speaker 12 (31:10):
Yes, new suppresses is great because you don't have that
carbon barrier that's there and this will god of work
to break that up. But on suppressors that are you
can disassemble, clean it with a brush or your finger,
apply it to their assemble to put it on the threads.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Ready to go.
Speaker 12 (31:28):
On the suppressors that are sealed, you just put a
few drops in and you want to shoot it until
you have it's wet.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
On the exit end, it's dry.
Speaker 12 (31:37):
Put a little bit more in there and strutching it
on the bottle, and so you just put a little
bit and you flood the cavity with it and just
shoot it a couple of rounds.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
It's wet, it's.
Speaker 12 (31:45):
Passed all the way through, and then you're ready to
go perfect going.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
True Bluegunlube dot com, True Blue Gunlube dot com.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Andy, I want to thank you for being on gun
Radio youtrop. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Thank you've got And as.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
We move along, we've got Darren Sharon's been on the
show a number of times. But the craz that's the thing.
He's always got something new to share with us. And
I might going, holy crap, I'll find innovations.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You've got everything that I mean. You're mostly known for
the slicker I think, Well.
Speaker 13 (32:20):
We've I started out. It's a crazy story. You want
to read it on my website. I was eating a
turkey sandwich, I got crap in my glasses, and so
I had the idea of inventing the spouts so the
spuds lands cleaner. That everyone's been using for many years
to clean your glasses, binoculars and optics. I developed it
originally with a snap pook faster for care.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
That's what I'm used to right there, and if you
if you know it's a it's a little pouch that.
Speaker 13 (32:42):
Holds a microfiber lens cloth. There you're catched inside so
you never lose it. So it's fixed to the pouch.
Has a neoprene pouch with random for nikon everywhere, so
many a lot of people don't know it comes from Alpine,
but that's okay. We sell it to everyone. We can
brand for company logos or corporate branding. We do it
all the time out of Utah, so it's made in
the USA. But I was recently thinking, as I was
(33:03):
shooting at a competition where I was shooting at metal targets,
where's my lens cloth? And it was so convenient to
how bell Crow attached to my plate carrier that I thought,
we need to make this Molly compatible. So now we've
taken the spuds and we've changed the fastener from a
hook to a Belcrow type fasterer hook and loop, so
you can hook it literally anywhere that you might have
bel You can.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Just belcote, or you can also weave it in, weave
it into the molly or something.
Speaker 13 (33:28):
Weave it into the molly or put it around it,
split ring and use it on your keychain. It's very versatile.
The same quality product washable. You don't have to worry
about the cloth. You just throw the whole thing in
the Washington.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
You've got it, And I.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Mean, I'm totally stoked with it because you never fail.
Every time I come up, whether it's a shod show
or interratiot, wherever I say what's new, and you always.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Got something new.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
It's a new sling size anyway, and you've always got
something in the works and that kind of stuff. So anyway,
now you've got the slicker, you've got the spuds, you've
got uh.
Speaker 13 (33:59):
You've got the drink, the energy energy or the body
fuel brain energy.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It's great.
Speaker 13 (34:03):
It's not a pre workout, it's just for everyday use
just to keep you alert and focused if you're out
shooting the range. It's a great product to take long
just to keep you motivated, healthy, healthy energy.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
All right, what's the website?
Speaker 13 (34:14):
Alpine products dot com and Alpine body Fuel dot Com
is for our body fuel supplement that it's We carry
all of our hunting and outdoor gear at Alpine Products
dot com.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Made in the USA.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
We take pride we've been Bill and I have been
to your place.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I mean it's a it's a it's a it's a
beehive of activity. But you're always thinking of new innovative
stuff that obviously you don't. You don't just sell all
but you you market it to other people and then.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
They put their names on it. They get all the credit,
all that.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Brand for other companies. But we look for problems to solve.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
That's what we specialize. And it's a Utah company. It's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
And you're in the retail stores as well. Yeah, we're
in Sportsman's, Cabella's Bass Pro Shields.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
So that's awesome, awesome product. So thank you so much
for being with the I love it. I think the
I think that I like the Velcrol even better than
the clip.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I mean, I've gotten clipped on my binocular.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
They're not clips, they're magazines.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, we had this argument early.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
I brought a few for you, so yeah, so I
like them because I can now I can just wrap
them around my binocular straps as well and get the
same thing, easy on, easy opt type of thing, apply
them to anything.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Darren, Thank you so much, welcome greatly, appreciate it very much.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
And folks, I mean, if you've got some time, I
know our show ends here in just a few moments here,
but there's still an hour if you can get down
here to shoot to twenty twenty five, there's.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Still a longs to do.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, and plan on next year too, yes, So if
you didn't make it down there, and then if you
go to Utah Shooters, they're.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Going to have a whole wrap up and all that
kind of stuff. Hopefully maybe footage from the helicopter. I
don't know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
And yeah, so I gotta get signed up to shoot
from the helicopter next year.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
That's gonna Well, they need targets and that too, so
you could be running around little targets or something, you know,
maybe and there's a drone here and there exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
So Yeah, beautiful day.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Tell yeah, it's been a beautiful day at at Shootout
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
All right.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Uh, there's there's a lot of talk on suppressors right now, legislation,
there's talk on f RTS apparently.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Uh, it's it's a it's a uh, it's a what
have we got on time?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's a machine gun nightmare with FRT triggers, forced to
reset triggers and I I.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Don't want to and suppressors.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Oh that's so, we'll be covering that next week.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Next week, Radio, I'm done, Radio UTUB. Thanks for listening, folks,
We are live at SHOOTA twenty twenty five and beautiful
Sarahtoga Springs Utah at the Soldier Soldier the Soldier Walder
Pass Soldier.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Pass Shooting Range. I always want to say children. Anyway,
it is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
There are FRTs if you know what I mean, Force
three set triggers on M one thirty four mini guns.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I guess that's the only way you can shoot that fast.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Anyway, we have got a huge show for you today.
We are joined by Alex Alex of Shootah Alex, this
is this is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Also, you picked a perfect take, Oh my gosh, a.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Perfect day shoe.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
You know what's funny about that, Clark, I actually looked
into it quite a bit. There's a lot of historical
data on this weekend, being a very mild weekend. I
looked about twenty years worth of data to look at
this make sure it was a good day for us.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You literally got that hot.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
You actually love that day day.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We're good.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Pay that guy very well. Where you get that data from?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Fantastic? I I know I had to pull you around.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You are a busy and you have an entourage with you,
and busy. I had to pull you away from the
Facacia bread place. Yeah, yeah, so that was that was
pretty easy. And then uh, but wow, we've got many guns,
We've got humvies, we've got you've got everything.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You've got a helicopter.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
After giving rides. Next year we're gonna shoot from the helicopters.
The last minute thing that we could.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Figure out, but we will figure it out for next year.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
How do you find the running targets for a helicopter?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Uh, suppressors galore, so many, so many Utah companies too.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
So no fantastic Utah companies. We are going to have on.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Lots of Utah companies, including Mike Pappas with Dead Air.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
We've got Alpine Innovations.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Darren is going to be on and we've got what
but you know, a real special one and we've got
for next segment.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
He is Matt the Collector.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Matt the Collector, a good friend of mine. What I understand,
he has the largest private collection of firearms.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
In the nation.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Set bigger than that, sound like a challenge.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
He made an entire basement just for his gun collection. Okay, challenge.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
If you go on YouTube, you can see Matt the
Collector and not only guns but he has cars and
he has you know, other stuff too, a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
He's a man of hard to please if you will,
and we're gonna we're.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Gonna have him on. But let's talk about Shootout twenty
twenty five. Talk about it.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
It's been the biggest shoot taught to date. We've had
so many tickets, so many people showing up. It's been
a ton of fun and and uh, it just gets
getting better and better and we put more and more
effort into it. So we appreciate all the support that
everyone's been having.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You see, I see, I see.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well literally, you know, husband's wives, moms, dads, their kids,
their dogs.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
And food trucks galore, I mean of food, and they're
selling Now I'm a little concerned, really, people they're selling out,
closing up.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Swag everywhere everywhere, Lots and lots of swag if you like,
patches and stickers and cups and pens, and.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Utah is the mecca for a lot of firearms companies,
so it makes it really easy to host an event
like this. We have a lot of suppressor companies, a
lot of very innovative gun companies here in Utah, and
it makes it possible for us to throw an event
like this.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, that's off for this when when this one ends?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And it ends at five o'clock today, right, okay, so
when do you start gearing up for the next for
shoot took twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
She got my permit for next year a few weeks ago,
so we're already We're already good to go on a
sixteenth next year, same weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So it Oh yeah, okay, that's nice. So Chuck, So Chuck,
I'll have to remind uh. I have to have a
little shout out. I think Chuck is calling me anyway.
So anyway, Uh, this is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It does get bigger every year, or does it's And
the parking is easy.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Everything is fantastic. And you've got Main Street here, which.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So if you if you, if you're able to come
here before five o'clock. We are located right on Main Street,
right next to Utah Shooting Sports Council booth, right next
to Women for Gun Rights, uh, and across from the
Facascia bread Place. But that's the that's the only thing
that isn't gun gun related.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, we got a non shooting booth section that is
relevant I think to our market. Yeah, and then we
got the shooting section, which obviously brings a lot of
the fun.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
All right, exactly, Alex, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
How can people find out more about Utah Shooters and
shoot to.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, follow us on Instagram at Utah Shooters. We'll post
all the content for shootah and then if you just
google shoota you'll be able to find tickets for next
year's event.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Awesome, Alex, thank you so much for And I'm gonna
have you hand the mic right there to the another
Alex and Alex that I just met today.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Alex, you're not a colonel.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I'm not a colonel.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You you're the only other I want to I don't
want to say odd man out in this place.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
But you don't have well, no, he doesn't have it.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Is gun really related related you?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's it's called Colonel.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Stogy is the name of the company, and our product
is Stogy mag And it's a travel humidor that functions
just like an AR fifteen mag.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
It uh, it's rapid deployment for your cigars.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So it's California complaint.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Is California compliant?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yes, sir? Literally? Is it? So to look at it?
It comes in different colors and in different colors.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Color is black, but we have an od green that's
coming out and a desert tan as well.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It looks like a big fifty BMG magazine.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yes, and it it.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Was moodled after hold Robusto's what.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It's going to be Robusto sized. So five P fifty
is the perfect stick for it. And it's perfect for outings.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
You're going hunting, you're going to the range, out on
the boat, out on the boat. It's got a custom
humidity pack in it that'll keep the cigars fresh, and
we saw refills for that of course.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Golf Ford, I'm just trying to I'm just thinking of
all the different things. And you literally got rapidly to
play what cools?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yes, school cool, Yes, school's bill, Thank you bill, thank
you for so it's a rapid deployment for your tobacco
related raboostos or cigars and is so dang cool.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And as I walk around here, I keep smelling that.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I personally don't mind the smell of cigar smoke and
ask the stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
It's an acquired taste. You either love it or you don't,
and that's okay both ways.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
How do we people find out about so stogy Mag
is the website. We also have it on on Instagram
which is stogy Mag. And we're a perfect gift for
for Father's Day and uh oh.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I am now and give him as Christmas.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
You got them, you can.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Father's Day is right around the corner. If they literally
will filt right down your belt. We've got a battle
belting out for them. We've got a plate carrier, mounth
a barbecue. Can you imagine I had a barbecue in
that and them?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
So stogy mag is it and people absolutely love it or.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
A great gift for you know, a father with a newborn.
Oh you know, I've done it. Wedding parties.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
We've got a lot of a lot of folks that
that want to protectic that's.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And it literally is a built in humidor inside it.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
Correct, it's got a humidity pack that controls the tobacco.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Uh humidity. All right, give me that website again. It's
stoveymag dot com.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Is there any other like social media or Instagram mag
on social media and uh on Instagram and uh yeah, fantastic, Alex,
thank you so much for being on Gun Radio Utah.
We are going to be back and hopefully the Collector.
Matt the Collector is going to be on second segment.
So hopefully I'm getting I'm getting some some interesting uh
(07:45):
stuff from our from our media coordinator here. But anyway,
when we come back on Gun Radio Utah, stay tuned
bye out here in Utah County outside of Saratoga screens.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
And I tell you we are having a blast today,
and we have got so much a cover clerk.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
We've got a new guest here. I'm gonna let you
introduce him.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
We're gonna go right into this because I want to
use all the time we can in this segment. We've
got Matt the Collector here with us.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Okay, So I got to tell you there's this there's
this new thing out there called YouTube and it has videos.
It's a new it's a fairly new thing. It's got YouTube,
it's got videos. It's got and there's an Instagram type
of thing. It's instant yeah, and there's a yeah and
there's X in that and it's a new thing. But uh,
but if you're if you've accustomed to that, then you've
(08:30):
got to know Matt the Collector. Matt, welcome to Gun
Radio Utah.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Thanks for having me. Hi, So I grabbed you. You
have like an entourage around you. You're a very popular person.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And uh supposedly I'm told that your gun collection rival's mind.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Maybe.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
I mean, I know there's a lot out there that's
better than mine. But those guys don't like to be
known about, right, right, right right, I know those guys.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
That's more of a myth, that's more of that's in
the ethereal. We don't even know if they really have
guns or not.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Don't talk about the rooms and they have a back room.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, but you unapologetically talk about your gun You have
a lot of You have a huge can I say
a basement?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah you will.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I have like six hundred guns. You're to count them all.
It's around six hundred that's including the antiques.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Wow, okay, Okay with that said, though, how what's that?
What's that separation between modern guns and antique guns?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Because I love antique wife?
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Actually, Oh, she's the one she started collecting before I
even met her.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Wait, who did really started collecting?
Speaker 8 (09:38):
I had the hell yeah, and she's actually the gun
car girl her. Okay, So she loves her the antiques,
and I always joking with her and that you like
those antiques because you were there.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Then you say.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Arms right, Okay, you know I always say she's my
favorite antique, and I catch out for it, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, Casey Jang would slap me upside so and she.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Knows I'm joking, but no, she started and then what
were you? Well back when I where I used to work,
she worked there as well, and so that's how we
got to know each other. And then that's when she
told me what she was into and I was into
the same thing.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And basically it just went nuts.
Speaker 8 (10:23):
So she collects the old stuff, and she has some
family members that are big collectors too, gentlemen's with people
with you know, the original cannons.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
From the Okay, yeah, so I know some of those guys.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
So I's why I know there's better collections out through
the mind because I've met the guys who have them.
But the transition was kind of weird. It's just I
just started going nuts, and they said, okay I wanted
you know, I just started buying them up, but left
and right. I would go to auctions and buy twenty
thirty guns at one time.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh my gosh, and I just make.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Everybody mad, not intentionally, right, it's just if I see it,
I'm gonna buy this.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I wanted my shirt.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
They could see you there and they're like, oh.
Speaker 9 (11:02):
Well back in the day, yeah before YouTube.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Yes, But you know, I look at Rock Island a
lot to see what there's out there.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And I use Rock Island and that kind of thing.
Is this is why I could compare. When I get
their books they send.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
Out, I compare what the prices are going for with
like stuff I have.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
Okay, you know I do a comparison, so for insurance
purposes stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, So when you when you in your collection, is
there one a style of firearm that you kind of
lean toward versus another smaller caliber versus night my favorite.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I know who your child is.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Yeah, but no, it's I like bolt guns. I like
long okay, long range to pick a certain guy and
be difficult.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, I may do that. Well, I can't do that
situation you're.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
In right, so for me, and Clark will attest to
this as well. Nineteen eleven. I love the nineteen eleven
any day, any day out, but when the fall comes,
I lose the nineteen eleven. I go to the tars
judge because I love being outdoors and shooting your house
and target shooting whatever. So he goes, he shoots, I shoot, Yeah,
(12:15):
he's seen a field. Yeah, but you know, it kind
of goes. But I to be honestly, I love rim fires.
They're yeah, they're just a riot.
Speaker 8 (12:24):
I actually bought like a week ago, a thousand rounds
of ten twenty two.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I thousd so cheat, ten thousands so cheap.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I didn't mean to, I didn't free.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
So you basically get it on a palette.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, you ps guys a little ticked off.
Oh no, they we're got. I get to be best
buds with the FedEx guy. You guessed.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So probably not best buds because they got to carry
that stuff because.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
I make sure if I know it's coming, I'll leave
like dolly out for him form because I don't want
to break your back.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, I want to keep them on my good side.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So right, So what do you see So you've you've
got you've got a big range from the antique to
the to the modern to the very modern.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
What do you see as it? What's the next innovation?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I'm thinking, you know, when we went from black powder
to smokeless powder, or muzzleloader to self contained cartridges.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I don't know. That's a tough question.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Will you have one? Let me that's come out? I
see it if you see Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
But that's why one of my shirts is if I
like it, I buy it. It's like the act came
from when I was buying cars all the time. This
is by sitting and I ended up buying it.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Really. Yeah, that's where that came from. Okay, because the
wife said, can't sit in it, no dealership.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Do you remember your first gun?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yes, my first gun was take that back. Everybody had
to be begod. So I had Yeah, I had one.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
I used to cut off the stock, the backstock, and
I cut off the barrel so I can make.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It like it is.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Really Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
And I used to take twenty two's and put them
in the ground and shoot the back of the twenty
twos and market explosions for army man stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So we did that when I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
What what state was this?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Indiana?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Indiana?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (13:55):
So and then I got it then when my my
favorite gun, probably I have currently is my dad's twenty two.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Oh really, thank you for saying that you have your dad's.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
I have my dad's win too and his original Captive
when he was a kid, though I will never sell those.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
If I grab if the house is on fire, I
grabbed the wife unless she's maybe mad, and grabbed the
dogs grabb My dad's went too, and that's it.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Everybody else is insured.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I'm glad to hear you say that, because I have
my dad's twenty two and.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
It's a people I can't see it through the damn
things to save my life, my eyes suck. So yeah,
otherwise it's it'd be that gun because I've never seen
one like it because before and grip turns down and
everything else. So it's yeah, I never seen one like it,
to be honest with.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So mine is actually a Springfield Model eighty four twenty two.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I don't think Springfield made it, right.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Because I've seen so many other I think they just
had the name on it. It's not a real expensive one,
but it was one Dad had and he won it
for delivering papers on a paper route, right, and you
know it's bad.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, my dad loves Dad used to I used
to go, I always my first gun I ever shot,
it was my dad point two. Yeah, and I have
a sixty engaged tip. Okay, oh wow.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So if people want to find out and and because
your your YouTube channel is so inviting, it's so it's addictive. Really,
Matt the Collector, all you got to do is just
just do the search on that.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
Man on Instagram shadow band, So you got to type
in the whole thing. It's the collector, underscore collector y T.
I think it's it's the collector Underscore. No, the the
underscore collector underscored y T.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Okay, that's yeah, because you so just an underscore in between. Yeah, okay, exactly.
Speaker 9 (15:39):
So that's pain. But I could tell you something that's coming.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Okay, okay, Gun Radio, you're.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Gonna hear this. You know I clicked the cabins right yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
They're making a gun named after me, and they're gonna
make it serious.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
No, I didn't get the one.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
Meteor grips, meteorite trigger, meteorite sites full Damascus wow slide.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
But well when you say Damascus right there, just.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Right, we're talking millions of years old.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
Yeah, because I had one already. I got one of
the first prototypes. And maybe you're right, you folks.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You heard it on Gun radio, Utah, you got the collector.
Speaker 8 (16:19):
Barrels, two barrels, one comped and one threaded.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
That's awesome. That's awesome. So what's next year though? That's ancher.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Yeah, well we're gonna have to have your back and
bring the gun into the studio and show it I do.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Oh yeah, you guys could come out to the ranch
and do it. Okay, you could do this out there.
Oh hear that?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Out invited me to the ranch.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Do you guys come like that better and do it
from there in the hallways?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
We got in trouble.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, so yeah, So what advice? Last question?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
What advice do you have for somebody that wants that,
that is interested in firearms and wants to maybe start
a collection.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
What do you have any advice?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
That's tough on?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:57):
I tell people it's sometimes I compare buying a car.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Buying guns is like buying a car. I mean, if
it's not fast enough, you want to build it, DA
make it fastest, right, right? So I always say, you know,
buy a decent ar list four thousand bucks maybe and
then stup it to make it what you want.
Speaker 9 (17:14):
You don't have to buy five thousand dollars ar and
have triggers you're not used to and everything else, huh
on long guns.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I'm one of these people that.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
My bolt guns had the same trigger twesday, Sugar and
every single gun.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
So if you do that same principle and interesting.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Yeah, Now I learned that same principle from three gunning
using a twenty two long rifle upper on my ar right,
so I could have the same trigger basically, and I
could in practice with And I'm I'm.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
A better rifle shooter than I am a pistol shooter.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I admit that. All that good day.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
But yeah, no, once once you guys come out, you
guys could actually do one at the ranch.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's fantastic. All appreciate the invitation. Yeah, Matt the Collector,
thank you very much for being on gun Radio YouTube.
Appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Okay, And when we come back, we've got more and
more and more to cover here at gun Radio Utah.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Stay tuned to that. Why not.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Welcome back to gun Radio Utah.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
We are live from SHOOTA twenty twenty five in beautiful
Saratoga Springs at the Soldier Pass Shooting Range.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So that's cute?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
So is it? Yeah? And by the way, that dog
that was over there on the side. That's your team.
That's on your team, and you know how the teams
are played, Bill.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So anyway, uh we Hey, without any further ado, Johnny,
you are the man here.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You're the everybody knows who you are, what you're doing,
and it's like, well, I gotta do this, Well you
got to talk to Johnny. Well what about that? You
gotta talk to Johnny?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
All right, So Johnny, we have you right here at
gun Radio Utah and among the other what do you
do here at Shoetah.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
But then we're going to talk about something else.
Speaker 10 (18:48):
Yeah, yeah, So Alex and I Cohn shoot, Alex and
I Coned Shootah, Utah Shooters, shoots a w in the
event that we're at today.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
So love to have all the companies out from Utah.
Speaker 10 (18:59):
But also all the company national brands that are out
six hours out here, some of the bigger brands coming
out to show off to the Utah two a community,
as you guys know, is thriving.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Oh you got that top rocks when it comes to guns.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
Absolutely, and that's that's a big part of why I'm
here today. I also own ClearPath Marketing, which is a
marketing firm specifically for the firearms industry, and we work
with clients and and pair influencers with clients. Get a
website on that, Yeah, Clearpathmarketing dot net is the website there.
So we do everything under the marketing umbrella for that.
But we're here to talk about.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Nice to know you another talking about another utah com
pretty that you just happened to own.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Jac No, j C.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Steele? Hi, thank you?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Bill?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
J C.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Steele?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
And you can find it at where's my stupid notes?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Hold on?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Are they right over here? Okay?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Oh yeah, Jacy Steele, iwear dot com. You know I've
only looked at this twenty time. There's your that's your dog,
and then J C. Steele, iwear dot com. We're gonna
go on extra on that, and so so I.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Went by that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I didn't realize it was I had anything to do
with you. So I'm looking at these glasses. I'm looking
at your guy, Cameron, Cameron.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Clark by the way, last name.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, and uh, and he had the coolest glasses on.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
They're really cool there and they're shooting glasses.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
And then he tried he had me put them on
and it was like a soothing, a soothing something for.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
My eye, a little relaxing for you.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
So the instant I put them on and he didn't
tell me anything about it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So anyway, tell us about Jason steele I Wear.
Speaker 10 (20:34):
So, I mean, the main reason why we started jac
still Iewear was to create ballistic protection sunglasses that had
UV protection, that had the polarization but also exceeded this
standard for safety.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
So in order to meet the.
Speaker 10 (20:50):
Standard for the NZA seven, you have to be at
a point seventy five thickness lens. Almost all of our
lenses are point one five to two millimeters sticks, so
we tried.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
To go above and beyond for that.
Speaker 10 (21:01):
But also we we tried to be a little crazy
with some of the styles and they're extremely.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Comfortable when you have a wide variety of styles.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I really recommend uh check out Jacy steeleyewear dot com.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I think you're gonna be pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Now on the on the website, you can't try them on,
but you got you got to check these things out.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
You won't be you won't be, you won't be sorry.
Absolutely next year you try them on your face.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Fantastic, Johnny thank you so much for being on gun
Radio Utah and if you would, uh can we are
we are we We're good for me. Just check yeah,
hand that right over to uh the the field Marshal,
I call them the field marsh We're on right now. Yeah,
we're yeah, we are on. I can't be we are on.
(21:47):
We are we are number six in the nation.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Uh right now.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And we have Mike Pappas with dead Air Suppressors and
we're gonna go, okay, thanks, thanks, what's that?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Well? Can't we move up to the one slot?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
We could?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But you know what, we were at number two and
then we had you on last time and we dropped down.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
To like number twelve or thirteen, so something like that.
You've clogged that all right? So Mike, I got to
ask you, dead Air.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
The name in the coolest You've got to be the
coolest name in suppressors. You're a Utah I'm gonna say
you're a Utah company. I know there's another state out there,
blah blah blah. We are.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Okay, so you're a Utah company. Why suppress? And why
suppress now?
Speaker 11 (22:30):
Because there's never been a better time to suppress. As
you look around the industry, and for example, we do
a couple of cans for Ruger.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
We're going to do some more business with Ruger.
Speaker 11 (22:44):
When people like Ruger just for example, are getting into it, Remington,
Smith and Wesson, it's become very common, the stigma.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Of you know, you're not really an.
Speaker 11 (22:58):
Outlier with a silence or anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
You're kind of.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Basically though still they're just your customers are assassins essentially, right,
isn't that.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
What they basically? Forget that they are, But we shouldn't
say that.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Well, I said, there's no apologies on gunn radio utah. Alright,
by a suppressor, you are essentially an assassin.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, you're right. Forget what I said there.
Speaker 11 (23:24):
You know that just the calmness and the joy of
shooting without all the noise and the recoil reduction is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I did hear the ATF or no, the the Yeah,
the ATF came out and said that they wanted suppressors
for health and safety.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, and they're just making that up all right.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, that's just I don't know, I mean along with them, but.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
Yeah, yeah, all right, so I think it must give
you some more safety communication and all that yeah, absolutely, So,
I mean, don't we.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Get enough suppression from the federal government right now? Aren't
they suppressing us already?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
No, I think they could do more if they wanted to.
I'm trying to try my glasses that.
Speaker 11 (24:07):
Full guy, it could be way worse.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
All right, what's new? What you gotta tell us? What's new? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I mean from us?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, and don't say the Sandman because that Okay, he
wasn't going to say.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
That's not what I was gonna say at all.
Speaker 11 (24:20):
What I was gonna say is I think we have
kind of as manufacturing techniques, and you know, mankind is
always making things better, different, smaller, lighter, faster, YadA, YadA.
We've been doing a lot of three D printing lately,
and three D printing has allowed us to make some
(24:41):
very low back pressure but very good sounding products.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Okay, tell for the uninformed, tell us why is low
back pressure good?
Speaker 11 (24:50):
Well, you the main reason, I think in our game,
and there's the obvious ingestion of you know, toxic substances,
heavy metal.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Through the open open right. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (25:06):
So the the thing that gives you the noise is
the temperature differential. So, for example, if I had an
oxygen a settling torch and cranked it up but didn't
light it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You wouldn't even know it was on.
Speaker 11 (25:25):
Okay, but when I strike it, what we have there
is twenty five hundred degree air and fifty degree air,
and now you have to yell over it. And a
gunshot puts this superheated blast of air and just pounds
it out.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Into a huge burst into cold air.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
That's why a gun shure.
Speaker 11 (25:46):
It's louder the colder it is, the more timp differential
you have, right.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I didn't know that, so interesting, right, it is interesting
actually science stuff.
Speaker 11 (25:56):
When you fire a rifle, then your silence has more
back pressure. Then it's louder at the ejection for it
on a semi auto.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And that's referred to as pork pop.
Speaker 11 (26:11):
So the lower the back pressure that your silencer is
you then get, then you starting to get into a
thing called washback, which is the silencer should be louder
than the port of your gun. Right, So that's what
you hear if you have a very high back pressure
can on an AR fifteen, you're gonna hear the port,
(26:31):
you won't hear the muzzle.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
So what you're able to do with the new three
d printing technology in that and utilizing that is to
reduce the back pressure.
Speaker 11 (26:41):
Correct and people have been doing this for a very
long time, but they general speak, have focused so much
on the reduced back pressure and the port noise that
you've gotten this wash off in a loud muzzle. So
we have kind of broken the cup if we do
mostly like a hybrid design. So we have a design
(27:04):
that we've patent it called Triskelion, which is very low
back pressure, and then we print three cones in like
the end of a Mahave forty five, a pistol silencer
of ours or a sam mat x a New Hanes
two eighty two low back pressure print hybred with three.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Cones in the end. I'll put against anything on it.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
So you just said it the hybrid.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
It's so you're using different materials in different parts of
the suppressor.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
Yeah, we're using new material and we're using a combination
of cones and low back pressure, Okay, all into one
thing to try to give you the very best experience
as a shooter an observer.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
You know, spark ground disruption, all that service.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That pounding you heard on the table was just like
Krush Jeff when he was pounding his shoe on the
table at the United Nations as the But that's so,
how do people find out more about dead air Because
you've got a heck of a dead air law.
Speaker 11 (28:00):
Their silencers dot com, you can look us up on Instagram, Facebook, x,
all the regular normal places that you'd think we are
there lurking around waiting to.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Are you in any of the videos?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Mike once in a great while, I'm in a video.
Speaker 11 (28:18):
I used to be in a lot of videos, but
then we got very elegante that do it now so.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
They don't have to shelp me as much.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Miketfield, Marshal, Mike Pappas Dead Airror Silencers, thank you so
much for being on gun Radio UT.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I appreciate you. Thank you awesome.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
And when we come back, we have got more and
more interviews to do here at gun Radiota.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Stay tuned and.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Uh a special thanks to Cindy for corraling everything today.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yes, yes, and our new media coordinator.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Is that Casey Jank. Casey Jank didn't make it today.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Casey Bear, give me a call. Yeah, okay, before I talked.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
To me, Well I did.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I did send you a text message that said how
much I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Bill. Hey, I look shout out to Ron.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
He's former DA and Sandy City cop and uh and
he's a he's a gun radio Utah listener.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
So that makes three people right there.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yep, that's Hey.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
We've got a great company here. We met them just
earlier today at the show here, but they're right across
our booth, True Blue. We've got Andy from True Blue
Gun Lubricants. Now, what makes you stand out that I
wanted to get you on the show is we're not
talking about CLRs or gun loops.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Or anything CLPA.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
We're talking about some of that's very unique for suppressors,
and Utah is a very strong suppressor orient company. I
want to give you a couple of minutes tell us
a little bit about your product, which you've got so
is called suppressor syrup and this was developed for to
keep carbon from bonding to the surfaces on the internals,
(30:05):
makes them easier to clean, eliminates carbon lock and so
the whole process of you know, carbon lock is a
real problem on applications and things, so this makes that
So applying it to the threads modular suppressor threads in
any of the mounts, it just makes those things easier
(30:25):
to end the baffles right, and the baffles to keep
the backups clean, so so they're easier to those areas
are easier to clean off. Now, this is an ingenious
product because I hadn't seen anything like it, but it
just makes sense for the suppressor industry.
Speaker 12 (30:42):
Yes, and there's no other product like this on the market.
And really it's kind of our jewel in our product line.
And I'm really proud of happy with this. We've got
suppressor companies who's using it, introduced it to them, a
lot of talk to a lot of them said, well,
we have problems.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Is our solution.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Anding about thirty seconds?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Here tell us how it is used, how the user
applies it, and how they would you know, wipe you
from a clean gun.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I'm assuming you start from a clean gun as clean
as possible.
Speaker 12 (31:10):
Yes, new suppresses is great because you don't have that
carbon barrier that's there and this will god of work
to break that up. But on suppressors that are you
can disassemble, clean it with a brush or your finger,
apply it to their assemble to put it on the threads.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Ready to go.
Speaker 12 (31:28):
On the suppressors that are sealed, you just put a
few drops in and you want to shoot it until
you have it's wet.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
On the exit end, it's dry.
Speaker 12 (31:37):
Put a little bit more in there and strutching it
on the bottle, and so you just put a little
bit and you flood the cavity with it and just
shoot it a couple of rounds.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
It's wet, it's.
Speaker 12 (31:45):
Passed all the way through, and then you're ready to
go perfect going.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
True Bluegunlube dot com, True Blue Gunlube dot com.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Andy, I want to thank you for being on gun
Radio youtrop. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Thank you've got And as.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
We move along, we've got Darren Sharon's been on the
show a number of times. But the craz that's the thing.
He's always got something new to share with us. And
I might going, holy crap, I'll find innovations.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You've got everything that I mean. You're mostly known for
the slicker I think, Well.
Speaker 13 (32:20):
We've I started out. It's a crazy story. You want
to read it on my website. I was eating a
turkey sandwich, I got crap in my glasses, and so
I had the idea of inventing the spouts so the
spuds lands cleaner. That everyone's been using for many years
to clean your glasses, binoculars and optics. I developed it
originally with a snap pook faster for care.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
That's what I'm used to right there, and if you
if you know it's a it's a little pouch that.
Speaker 13 (32:42):
Holds a microfiber lens cloth. There you're catched inside so
you never lose it. So it's fixed to the pouch.
Has a neoprene pouch with random for nikon everywhere, so
many a lot of people don't know it comes from Alpine,
but that's okay. We sell it to everyone. We can
brand for company logos or corporate branding. We do it
all the time out of Utah, so it's made in
the USA. But I was recently thinking, as I was
(33:03):
shooting at a competition where I was shooting at metal targets,
where's my lens cloth? And it was so convenient to
how bell Crow attached to my plate carrier that I thought,
we need to make this Molly compatible. So now we've
taken the spuds and we've changed the fastener from a
hook to a Belcrow type fasterer hook and loop, so
you can hook it literally anywhere that you might have
bel You can.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Just belcote, or you can also weave it in, weave
it into the molly or something.
Speaker 13 (33:28):
Weave it into the molly or put it around it,
split ring and use it on your keychain. It's very versatile.
The same quality product washable. You don't have to worry
about the cloth. You just throw the whole thing in
the Washington.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
You've got it, And I.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Mean, I'm totally stoked with it because you never fail.
Every time I come up, whether it's a shod show
or interratiot, wherever I say what's new, and you always.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Got something new.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
It's a new sling size anyway, and you've always got
something in the works and that kind of stuff. So anyway,
now you've got the slicker, you've got the spuds, you've
got uh.
Speaker 13 (33:59):
You've got the drink, the energy energy or the body
fuel brain energy.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It's great.
Speaker 13 (34:03):
It's not a pre workout, it's just for everyday use
just to keep you alert and focused if you're out
shooting the range. It's a great product to take long
just to keep you motivated, healthy, healthy energy.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
All right, what's the website?
Speaker 13 (34:14):
Alpine products dot com and Alpine body Fuel dot Com
is for our body fuel supplement that it's We carry
all of our hunting and outdoor gear at Alpine Products
dot com.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Made in the USA.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
We take pride we've been Bill and I have been
to your place.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I mean it's a it's a it's a it's a
beehive of activity. But you're always thinking of new innovative
stuff that obviously you don't. You don't just sell all
but you you market it to other people and then.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
They put their names on it. They get all the credit,
all that.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Brand for other companies. But we look for problems to solve.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
That's what we specialize. And it's a Utah company. It's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
And you're in the retail stores as well. Yeah, we're
in Sportsman's, Cabella's Bass Pro Shields.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
So that's awesome, awesome product. So thank you so much
for being with the I love it. I think the
I think that I like the Velcrol even better than
the clip.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I mean, I've gotten clipped on my binocular.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
They're not clips, they're magazines.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, we had this argument early.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
I brought a few for you, so yeah, so I
like them because I can now I can just wrap
them around my binocular straps as well and get the
same thing, easy on, easy opt type of thing, apply
them to anything.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Darren, Thank you so much, welcome greatly, appreciate it very much.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
And folks, I mean, if you've got some time, I
know our show ends here in just a few moments here,
but there's still an hour if you can get down
here to shoot to twenty twenty five, there's.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Still a longs to do.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, and plan on next year too, yes, So if
you didn't make it down there, and then if you
go to Utah Shooters, they're.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Going to have a whole wrap up and all that
kind of stuff. Hopefully maybe footage from the helicopter. I
don't know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
And yeah, so I gotta get signed up to shoot
from the helicopter next year.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
That's gonna Well, they need targets and that too, so
you could be running around little targets or something, you know,
maybe and there's a drone here and there exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
So Yeah, beautiful day.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Tell yeah, it's been a beautiful day at at Shootout
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
All right.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Uh, there's there's a lot of talk on suppressors right now, legislation,
there's talk on f RTS apparently.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Uh, it's it's a it's a uh, it's a what
have we got on time?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's a machine gun nightmare with FRT triggers, forced to
reset triggers and I I.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Don't want to and suppressors.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Oh that's so, we'll be covering that next week.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Next week, Radio, I'm done, Radio UTUB. Thanks for listening, folks,
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