Ep. 5380: Big companies are investing billions into America.

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Speaker 1 (00:23):
All right, five passed the hours the Morning Show with
Preston Scott. It is Thursday, May fifteenth. He's Jose, I
am Presston, great to be with you. I'm not I'm
not doing it. I'm not gonna I'm not going to
the president right now in Qatar. I'll try to jip
a little bit of it if he's still going in

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a few minutes. But Jose and I have been greatly
entertain and amused by the bad singing and the and
the president being the president, and it's just it's glorious
in its own way. We will stay focused, though, we
will we will be disciplined here as hard as it is.

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We're gonna start. This is gonna be this scripture just
popped up in my daily devotional. And when we get
to a story in about fifteen minutes, you're gonna go
back to I'm gonna bring us back to this scripture
and you're gonna go whoa Okay, So just make note

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of that Ecclesiastes eleven five. As you do not know
the way the spirit comes to the bones in the
womb of a woman with child, So you do not
know the work of God, who makes everything. Okay, Hey,

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that's it. First. That settles into the whole idea of
that's a human being inside mom as. You do not
know the way the spirit comes to the bones in
the womb of a woman with child, the bones in

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the womb of a woman with child, the spirit coming
into the bones in the womb, that's a child, even
at the moment of conception. That's a child. So you

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do not know the work of God who makes everything.
Now hold on to that. Just I'm sitting here right
now a little I shouldn't be, you know. I sat

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down yesterday and put together the rundown for the show,
because that's what I do. I prepare every show, and
I can't describe to you the feeling that I get
that today a lot of guests, not as many as normal,
but Steve Stewart and then Chad Gray from Joint Strong

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in the third hour. But I sit back and I
just kind of look at the rundown. I look at
the stack of stories. I kind of thumbed through them
once again. I've got another I've got two or three
auxiliary stacks. I've got another stack inside my portfolio, and
I'm just sort of looking at it and going, Okay,

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is this a good show? And I'd picked a story
that I could have put in any number of other
places in the show. But I put this story at
twenty one minutes past the first hour, and I had

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no idea because my devotional doesn't tell me what the
devotional is for the next day, the scripture of the day.
It just pops up in the dashboard. I don't know
what it is. And if I didn't use it, I
couldn't pull it back yesterday's. They don't do it that way.
In this devotional. It's there for one day and it's
gone now. I could make note of it, but going

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back to it, but ahead, I don't know what it's
going to pick. So just hold on to this Ecclesiastes
eleven five. You do not know the work of God,
who makes everything. Hold on to that. I'm just sitting here,
just God, You're incredible. Ten past the hour, Stay with me.

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Take a date, a trip back in time. Take a
look at this date in history. Next on the morning show.
I gotta get right to it. It is May fifteenth,
sixteen oh two. English explorer Bartholomew Gosnold leads the first

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European exploration of Cape cod Massachusetts. I think they found
a Kennedy there, but I can't be certain. Seventeen fifty six,
England declares war on France in America beginning of the
seven year War. Nineteen eleven Supreme Court upholds the order
for the dissolution of Standard Oil Company, ruling its monopoly.

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Nineteen forty crowds of shoppers scrambled to buy nylon stockings
on the first time they first time they go on sale.
Nineteen fifty one, AT and T announces that it's the
first US corporation to have a million stockholders. AT and
T and then it was on this very date in

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nineteen fifty three. This was broadcast.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Deadline edition Taylor Grant speaking May fifteenth, nineteen fifty three,
in Washington. General Bradley's speech today was one of several
interesting news developments dealing with our military defenses. Here's a
summary by a gunner back. We seem to be unable
to contact Washington at this time. Let's try once again.

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Our queue to Washington is here as a summary by
a gunner back. Sorry, we seem to be unable for
some inexplicable reason to contact correspondent gunner back in Washington.
Even as we have contacted him every night for the
past eight years. Well, the speech by General Bradley, as

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you may have heard, was before the Women's National Press Club,
and it was one in which he told the assembled
ladies that the United States must spend heavily on military
readiness as far into the future as we can see
at this time. Now, then, to the nation's sports fans,
the biggest news in quite a while is building tonight

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in Chicago, where world heavyweight champion Rocky Marciano is about
to meet that challenge from ex champ Jersey Joe Walcott.
We sent correspondent Tom Casey to the weighing in ceremonies
today and he recorded this report at that dramatic scene. Well,
mother told me there would be days like this. Shall

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we try once again for Chicago? Calling Tom Casey in Chicago,
er Q, is this report at that dramatic scene. Some
nights you can't make a thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Unfortunately, we had been told earlier today that Tom Casey
had recorded a very fascinating report at the weighing in
ceremonies in which he had the voices of both Joe
Wolcott and Rocky Marciano. Don't know how the betting is
going right at the moment, don't know as we should
report it if we did know, as a matter of fact,

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having a piece of coffee about the fight to night,
except that you know it's going to be very interesting
one and exciting one, just as it was the last
time they met. The way in ceremonies took place at
the Chicago Stadium, and that's where correspondent Casey had prepared
for us that excellent report which you and I have
been unable to hear at this time.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Let's see what.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Else we have in the news to talk about this
evening on a memorable Headline edition. Nice to me. Suppose
we come back to you in just a moment or
two on this queue. I'll be back in a minute
with more news.

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Speaker 3 (09:52):
Edition with portions transcribed.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
What portions?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
That's today's headline edition.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
I was on this date in nineteen fifty three, sixteen
minutes past the hour. I laugh every time. Twenty one
past story forwarded to me by a friend. Science correspondent

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from BBC writes this scientists race to discover why our
universe exists. I'm going to read some parts here. Inside
the laboratory nestled emits above the mist of the forest
in South Dakota, scientists are searching for the answer to
one of the biggest questions, why does our universe exist.

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They're in a race to answer with a separate team
from Japanese of Japanese scientists who are several years ahead.
The current theory of how the universe came into being
can't explain the existence of planets, stars, galaxy we see
around us. Both teams are building detectors that study a
subatomic particle called a neutrino. In hopes of finding the answer,

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the US led international collab hoping to answer hoping the
answer lies deep underground in the aptly named Deep Underground
Neutrino Experiment acronym DUNE. They might be finding something else.
Unday there just saying. Scientists will travel fifteen hundred meters

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roughly a mile below the surface into three vast underground caverns.
They've been building these for ten years. They're massive. They
seal Dune off from the noise and radiation from the
world above. Now Dune is ready for the next stage.
Quoting the scientists involved, we are poised to build a

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detector that will change our understanding of the universe, with
instruments that will be employed by a collaboration of more
than fourteen hundred scientists from thirty five countries. Were eager
to answer the question of why we exist. When the
universe was created, two kinds of particles were created, matter
from which stars, planets, and everything else around us are made,

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and an equal amounts antimatter matters exact opposite. Theoretically, the
two should have canceled each other out, leaving nothing but
a big burst of energy, and yet here we are
as matter. Scientists believe that the answer to understanding why
matter one and why we exist lies in studying a

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particle called the neutrino and its antimatter opposite the anti neutrino.
Of course, they inevitably come to the idea that you
and I are just an accident of cosmic forces. I

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consider myself a fairly well read logical person, and that,
to me is hilariously stupid. So we've got these two
incredible efforts going on, one in Japan, one in America,
a mile under the surface, to get away from any

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any noise, pollution, any vibration, anything, and to figure out
why we exist? Right Ecclesiastes eleven five, you do not
know the work of God, who makes everything. I'm going

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to really distill this science, man, Why do we exist?
Why does our universe exist? Ecclesiastes eleven five. You do
not know the work of God, who makes everything? Why

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do we exist? You do not know? The experiment proves
the verse. You do not know why matter one because

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you do not know the work of God, who makes everything.
I don't know where the money's coming from for this,
but I'm going to make a bold prediction. We're never

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going to get an answer from these experiments. It wouldn't
shock me if there's never a follow up story. Well,
we've been in this cave for like twenty seven years,
and we we would.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
It's dark down there, and I haven't I haven't seen
anything in twenty seven years.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Well, sir, do you have an answer for why we exist?
I don't even know why I did this. I don't
even know where my underwear is anymore. Who won the
world Series? And we're going to still be saying with

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you don't know the work of God, who makes everything. Now,
let's go back to what I said. I just slotted
this story not knowing what the verse was going to be.

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I just can't help but think God had a really
good laugh when I put this story there. Yeah, watch
this because I know the scripture that's coming tomorrow. Twenty
eight passed the hour, Big Stories in the press Box
coming up next.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
The morning Joe at Preston Scott on News Radio one
hundred point seven WSLA.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
All Right, especially those of you older folks listening to
the program, nearing retirement. You're in retirement and you're out
there getting your breeches scared by a bunch of flaming
leftists that are telling your benefits are being cut. Your benefits,
you're being cut. What's happening is going to save your

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precious social security. What is happening is the markup going
on right now in budget reconciliation. It prohibits funding Dedicaid

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and Children's Health Insurance for illegal immigrants. The markup removes
people without verified citizenship, nationality, satisfactory immigration status who would
be covered in state only funded programs under current law.
We're trying to get rid of that. The problem is

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that Republicans are having to fight as we are the
constant lies by the left. Check out. Georgia Representative Buddy
Carter represents the Southeastern Congressional District number one of Georgia.

Speaker 7 (18:43):
General Lady knows perfectly well that that is not true.
It is not kicking thirteen point seven million people off
of Medicaid, and.

Speaker 8 (18:55):
That is not simply not true.

Speaker 7 (18:57):
And the General Lady knows that this is nothing more
than fear mongering. This is nothing more than misleading the public.
What we are doing here is stabilizing this program. This
is a program that I worked in for over forty
years as a pharmacist, and I can assure you it
is a program that is needed. It is intended for
the most vulnerable in our society, the age, the blind,

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to disabled, pregnant mothers, children, those who truly need it.

Speaker 8 (19:24):
And that's what we're doing.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
We are making sure that no illegals are going to
be on this program. We're making sure that people aren't
registered in more than one state. We're making sure that
they're going to be work requirements so that able body
adults are truly in need of it. That's what we're doing.
We're stabilizing this program. To insinuate, to fear monger that

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we are trying to kick people off is simply untrue.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
It continues over and over and over, which is why
these people will net The repri sensitives of the left
that are going around and holding these press conferences will
never ever agree to any form of conversation that involves
back and forth. They want to make their speeches and
walk away because they cannot defend their fear mongering. Second

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big story, hines Craft hinds they are going to spend
three billion dollars upgrading US factories. They're going to be
making improvements. They're going to be doing expansion and oh,
by the way, this includes helping their Maxwell House coffee

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brand and all of the other brands underneath their umbrella.
Why well, I'll quote them. It goes. It goes beyond
just efficiencies or dealing with the current tariff challenges. It's
a long term investment that allows craft Hinds to produce
food for the long term. Thank you. They're joining Anheuser

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Busch Kimberly Clark. Kimberly Clark's investing another two billion. When
you start adding up the money that's coming into America
and that's now being spent in America, and the jobs
that will come as a result of it. See, when

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there's competition for workers, guess what happens. Wages go up
because of market forces. Forty minutes past the own big
stories in the press box here at the Market show.

Speaker 8 (21:43):
On news Radio one hundred point seven double USLA.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Forty two minutes past the hour, doing a little scratching
here on the morning show. You didn't know I was
quite that hip, now, did you? Great response to our
visit with Jamie Arnold. The post on that has gone well,

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and we're hoping money is being raised looking for some
box fans. Lady wrote me, said, I don't live there anymore,
but I used to live in PC. I posted something
on my Facebook page, and right now we've got at

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least fifteen more fans going to Panama City because of
my post, she posted to friends. And you know, some
are just shipping them to the Bay County Council on aging.
Some are are driving over to a Ace Hardware store
in the Panama City area and picking one up and

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leaving it there. I don't care how we do it,
just do it. We Thank you so very much, Patricia
for your help. I don't know if you saw when
some Democratic members of Congress tried to storm the Ice

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Detention Center. Mayor of Newark, Mayor Ross Baraka sounds like
the cousin of roz A goul al Gool from the
What Batman Ros Baraka, And so what's happening is the

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aforementioned Buddy Carter of Georgia has put a bill together
sponsored to bill. If I wanted to work with clowns,
I would have joined the circus. My bill preserves the
integrity of Congress by ensuring only serious, law abiding members
serve on committees. His bill would strip them of their

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committee positions. The radical left has lost their minds. They
would rather raid an ice facility to defend criminal illegal
immigrants than represent their own constituents. The three Democratic members
involved in this stunt do not deserve to sit on
committees alongside serious lawmakers. I completely agree, Chuck Schumer, along

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with Hakeem Jeffries. Hakeem Jeffries was like, don't you touch
our people? Why what are you gonna do? Chad Pegram
of Fox said why. He said, you'll find out. They'll
find out. No, what what are you talking about? They'll
find out. He said that an arrest would be a

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red line and refuse to clarify anymore. Chuck Schumer out there. Look,
the right of peaceful protest is sank or sanct in America.
It's funny how they define things, isn't it? How they
define a peaceful or mostly peaceful protest. This goes back

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to Ferguson. This goes back to Michael Brown, who caused
his own death by trying to grab the gun of
a police officer. That'll get you shot. And even though

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federal investigations, even Eric Holders investigation under Barack Obama found
that the police officer involved in Ferguson and acted lawfully
and correctly. That man lost his career because of the fallout.
Democrats believe in peaceful protests that are remarkably violent and

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the and the irony of courses that they can't define
an assault weapon. They really struggled defining things. They're very confused.
Show a mob committing acts of violence and vandalism and

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and outright robbery on camera. That's a mostly peaceful protest.
Ask them to identify an assault weapon. They can't. They

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they can't. I've I've got a golden Donald Trump golf
ball in front of me. Trust me when I tell you,
in my hands at five yards ten yards, that's an
assault weapon. If I throw it, if I hit you

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on the head, it's gonna hurt a lot. Golf ball's hurt.
I've got a three iron. I used to carry a
one iron. I got a three iron. That three iron
can be an assault weapon. My putter, I've got a
lab Mes one putter. Take a look at that, bad

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boy and tell me that's not an assault weapon if
I want it to be. Some would say you assault
the greens every time you use it. That would be true.
You get my point. Anything could be an assault weapon,
but they can't define that. Funny how they struggle with definitions.
Forty eight minutes past the hour Morning, come on the

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Morning Show, fifty four minutes past Steve Stewart in just

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a little bit. Next hour, we go through part of
our loan list I selected my ten items. Alone comes
up in just a few weeks. June twelfth, Thursday, Night
History Channel Alone. No, I'm not being paid to promote it.

(28:52):
I love the show. I don't need to be paid
to promote it. Maybe we'll get somebody from the Alone
series on I am. I am absolutely obsessed with that
television program. I gave Jose the list. I said, read
up on the the location where the show will be

(29:16):
taking place, which is the Great carew not to be
confused with a television character cartoon character from the nineteen
sixties and seventy seventies. But no, it's it's a great show.
We'll be talking about that next hour. And then Chad

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Gray in the third hour. If you're facing some kind
of orthopedic surgery to a joint back, just listen. So
I'm gonna tell you to do is listen. I think
all of us would agree we don't need to have surgeries.
We don't need The question is do you need to

(30:01):
have the surgery. There are times when surgery is absolutely necessary.
It's just not nearly as often as you think. Just isn't.
So we'll talk about all that media holding. Jake Tapper
at CNN. He is trying to rehabilitate his tarnished image

(30:30):
and gaslight you and I into thinking that he had
nothing to do with the scandal to cover up Joe Biden,
and in fact he did and multiple times I share
that to say, please, don't put your trust in the
mainstream media. Please, if you have a question about somebody,
fire off an email president at iHeartRadio dot com. I'll

(30:53):
do my best. But Jake Tapper has all the ability
to be a very good newsman. He's just not just
wanted you to be aware. Steve Stewart is on deck
here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Ah, this

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is gonna be fun. Stay with us to the bitter end.
Second hour of the Morning Show with Preston Scott Thursday
May fifteenth, and show fifty three eighty over there is
Jose I'm Preston and joining me in studio as always
on Thursday, is Steve Stewart, the executive editor of Tallahassee Reports,
the website Tallahassee Reports dot com. How are you great?

Speaker 9 (31:39):
Got a couple of good things for you today?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Will you have more than that? We reported in the
news the Blueprint Intergovernmental Agency workshop. They voted on something,
but it was a little different than what we thought
was coming.

Speaker 9 (31:54):
So, you know, I took the time to watch the
meeting and it's sort of it's amazing when you expect
you get your hazard paid for that, you expect things
to go a certain way, and then it's like it
goes totally different. Yeah, So there was like almost complete
agreement that they needed to move forward with these air
service incentives. And we had talked about this for the
last month about how look, the reason why we have

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high fares here is not because of the City of
Tallahassee or local government. It's because it's because of the
way the industry is structured. We don't have We're not
a metropolis. Our MSA is three hundred thousand people, not
two million. And the way airlines work, they're going to
go where the people are and where they're flying. We're
not we're not next to a beach, we're not a

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tourist destiny.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
We have to help them want to be here.

Speaker 9 (32:37):
Why Gainesville has higher rates flying fares than we do,
and they're in a similar situation.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's like paying for somebody to play with the kids.

Speaker 9 (32:44):
So if you if airfares are important to you, okay,
you probably shouldn't be living in Tallahassee, all right, you
should move to Jacksonville, Orlando, or you know, or Panama
City beach.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Right.

Speaker 9 (32:57):
But the point is is the air service incentives if
you want to try to make it a little bit better,
promote economic development. This is what other communities are doing.
And sure enough they had the meeting. David Pollard, executive director, says, look,
these airlines won't even talk to you about new routes
or providing new services unless you have some kind of incentives.
And so this board, who has been has been known

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to fight over the littlest things. And the board is
City and County commission exactly, all the collected officials together,
and they all agree, no brainer. You know, this is
something we got to do. However, you know, here's the twist.
Nick Maddox County Commissioner, who made the motion to adopt
the Air Service Incentives added amendment. He wanted two hundred

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and fifty thousand dollars a year in incentives for appropriated
or allocated to a affordable housing project.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Now, why not have that as a separate issue?

Speaker 9 (33:50):
Christian Command asked that a number of people asked that
one of the reasons why Commissioner Command voted against this
is because he did not like the process separated out. Ye,
Diane Williams Cox wanted to separated out you know this
affordable housing. Well, why didn't they overrule it? They didn't
because I think, you know, this affordable housing thing is
there's there's a there's a couple of activist groups that
are promoting this blueprint has already voted that they can't

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they don't want a fund affordable housing, but they keep
coming back and this Nick Baddocks, you know, found something.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
That everybody likes.

Speaker 9 (34:21):
Added a level of money that is, you know, two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year over the life
of you know, blueprint is going to be you know,
a significant amount of money. But nobody had the courage
to stand up and say, look, let's vote against this
and get this out of here. It's one of these
things is a political calculation. We're going to get air
service incentives, so we take this. But I really think

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this community needs to start to look at this affordable
housing debate a little bit more critically because it's almost
like you're afraid to be against some officials because remember,
we don't have we have no Conservatives, no Republicans on
these on this board, right, so nobody he's really looking
at Wait a minute, why are we why are putting
where is the affordable housing need?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
What are we trying to do?

Speaker 9 (35:05):
Are we're trying to build houses government housing? Are we
trying to subsidize it?

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Where does the two hundred and fifty thousand dollars go?
And what does it do?

Speaker 9 (35:12):
We had to vote for it to find out where
it's going.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Because I think we've heard that before.

Speaker 9 (35:17):
I think that there's going to be a program that
they're going to come back with, but they he wanted
to use this as an opportunity. Very disappointed. I'm from
a personal standpoint opinion tr disappointed in the process, which
I think a couple of elected officials were, But there
was not enough to uh to separate it out, and
so anyway, we got the air services centives. But again

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we're going to deal with this affordable housing and it's
money going where you.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Know, we know where the money's going for the air services.
It's going to hopefully improve air service and we'll be
able to track it. You know.

Speaker 9 (35:47):
It's a lot like the money that's being spent at
the CSC, the Children's Services Council. It is so difficult
and I spent some time looking at this. It's going
to be so difficult to track how it's actually being spent.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Nick. If you believe in this affordable housing stuff, then
it should stand on its own merits and let it
be a separate funding item.

Speaker 9 (36:05):
Let it be voted on by it by itself.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I agree. Ten past the hour, I quit. I don't
want to do the show anymore. All right, I'll come
back for one more segment. Steve Stewart's with me. Steve

(36:35):
Stewart with me from TALLASKI reports. Okay, so we go
from the group of twelve elected officials to a group
of five, which is the City Commission. Yes, that was yesterday.

Speaker 9 (36:44):
A couple of items I wanted to bring to your attention.
First of all, they voted in this Yeah, this is
on the consent agenda, which means there's no discussion on it.
But we put a story up on it and got
some traction.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
You know.

Speaker 9 (36:56):
Again, we're local government. We're trying to do things here
to help out neighborhoo, and we're in the We're gonna
get into the grocery store business. There's a convenience store
in french Town that's had all kind of issues called
the Time Saver, a lot of crime around it, but
there's argument that there's not enough grocery options in Frenchtown.
So the Office of Economic Vitality bought this piece of land.

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I can't remember how much they paid for it, but
they bought it, and they're gonna build a grocery store.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
What just over a million dollars?

Speaker 9 (37:26):
Yeah, well, yeah, they're gonna that's the They've contracted with
this construction company to build a grocery store. But as
I you know, it's one thing to provide incentives to
do something like this and I've got to get to
the bottom of this. But so they bought the land.
Now they're gonna actually build a store.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Do they have a tenant or are they gonna?

Speaker 9 (37:43):
I mean, who's who's gonna actually run the grocery store,
And it looks like the city's gonna own it. So no,
it's solutely it's what it appears. I'll have to get
the details on this, but they own the land and
now they're paying to have the building built. So it's
not like they contracted with a grocery store to come
in or a convenience store. And so you know, this

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seems you're.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Getting out of the hospital business maybe and getting into
the grocery store business. We're in the hospital business, you know.
They actually you know, they actually one of.

Speaker 9 (38:12):
Their tenants as Hooters also the city did you know that,
So we're in the wing business.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
If you want to call it that. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (38:18):
So anyway, I don't know, something to keep an eye on. Yeah,
and it's not an insignificant amount of money. I mean,
you know, it's millions of dollars and so uh, I
mean Public's is right there.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (38:31):
I again, sometimes I think, as we talked about with
the affordable housing, a lot of this stuff is I'm
starting to not starting you know, these are political votes
to placate neighborhoods, and this is part of these neighborhood
plans and again a lot of money, and I think
it could probably go somewhere else because I don't think
that there are a lot of places to get groceries.

(38:54):
And again you hear this too, this term food deserts.
But where this is going is less It's less than
a mile from West Tennessee Street.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
So, like I said, it's on the back side of
the Lake Ella Publics. I mean that's French Towns Stone's
throw away.

Speaker 9 (39:11):
Yeah, this is a little bit further west, but it's
closer to Tennessee Street. But there are options there.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Anyway, we'll keep it. They how many times have there
been efforts over the years. I mean I moved here
in nineteen eighty seven, Steve, and there have been at
least four or five revitalization efforts in the french Town
area that they thought, you know, the building of the
Renaissance buildings downtown that where they moved the utility and

(39:37):
all that that was supposed to be the stimulator for
the area. It's never ever worked.

Speaker 9 (39:43):
Now, I think the best thing is we've noticed that
there's been reports that the Amazon jobs that area has
benefited a lot from Amazon jobs. People getting said economic delment.
I mean the private sector private sector organic growth, yeah,
is going to be the best way. But anyway, that
was one of the issues. Another one the ga gas
station convenience store issue. Yeah, yeah, you know in canopy

(40:04):
that one is sort of left the station.

Speaker 10 (40:06):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (40:06):
I think they're going to build that store there. However,
they are putting the moratorium on gas station convenience stores
for the rest of the year until they can figure
out how that slipped through the cracks and what they
can do to regulate it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Well, I think I think we do.

Speaker 9 (40:25):
So I think that that's uh so, that's something that
they you know, they voted on and they're going to
take a look at. Unfortunately, the people that brought the
issue up and are impacted this the most. I just
don't think anything's going to go move forward there. Looks
like the Case Store Corporation, which is a really big corporation,
is going to move forward with that.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
So we'll see there.

Speaker 9 (40:45):
The the third thing, Washington Square, which is the hotel
that was incentivized by the c RA for construction, was
going to be given a tax break. You know that
they started building us a freaking it's an eye sore.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
It is a huge one and it's been that way
for a while.

Speaker 9 (41:00):
While sod of trying to move forward with this four
hundred thousand dollars in uh, I guess uh violations. So
they're going to go forward and and bring it to
a head. They're going to file a foreclosure, which means
that the guy who know a building downtown too, well,
they'll either pay the you know, that's four hundred thousand
dollars is a lot of money, so they'll either have
to pay that sell it or let the city or

(41:23):
let the you know, let it go into foreclosure and
then the property can be sold. But the city is
ready to move forward on that. And and again if
you go back, this was supposed to be a really
nice hotel and a really neat location.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
But I remember this meeting.

Speaker 9 (41:36):
I can remember it as the cra And again you
don't get the incentive until afterwards. But it was that
was part of the deal, was the reason that they
started building. It was because of the CIRA.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
All Right, we got a lot to talk about still,
so don't leave us. I didn't quit, don't you either.
Seventeen past the hour back with the executive editor, Telehassei
reports the website talentasireports dot Com. Steve Stewart tell me

(42:12):
the importance of the name Professor Diane Roberts of Florida
State University.

Speaker 9 (42:16):
You know, Look, one of the things transparency and you know,
letting people know what's going on in the community is
important and one of the things I've tried to do
ever since I've been involved here. One of the reasons
I got involved is to try to get things done
beyond the political debate of Republicans and Democrats, you know,
and this label of nonpartisan city commission races and stuff

(42:37):
sort of sucked me in, you know. And still there
are a lot of things locally that you can do. Look,
there's twelve Democrats on the City and County Commission. We're
involved because we think that you can talk rationally with
people and get local things done, just like the Air
Service incentives. Rick Minderbrod the point that, look, this is
being used in Republican and democratic areas. This is a

(42:57):
non part you know, nonpartisan issue. However, there are people
that especially since the Progressives were elected, it used to
be just Republicans and Democrats, and now there seems to
be some consensus on some things. The Progressives have taken
have got the you know, their foot in the door,
and we've seen this this rhetoric, I mean, and it's
not it's not you know, arguing about policies.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
It never is based on facts. When it comes from
the liberals, it's it is.

Speaker 9 (43:22):
It is really dangerous rhetoric, and it becomes accepted. And
when it does become accepted, it becomes a problem. I've
tried to highlight it. For example, the local Leon Democratic
Party retweeted something a year or so ago that said
that the United States is a fascist police state. Now,
where is the benefit to bring in community together on
you know, retweeting something that is just where's the proof? Well, exactly,

(43:46):
you know, this is so separated from facts now, I mean,
you're not even you're not even arguing about facts. It's
just a it's a statement to get a rise out
of people. And I understand that's what a lot of
people do, and it's a lot of media outlets do.
The other thing is you see this this activist group
shows up at the city commission meetings and this has
gone on for years, calling TPD officers murders, and nobody

(44:06):
says anything. What we do when we bring it up
and we've made sure that people understand that. Now these
are from hyperpartisan groups, Okay, you expect it, you expose it,
you know, to where this is the way they're thinking,
and it's not really good for the community. But there's
so Dian Roberts is someone who is writes an opinion

(44:26):
piece pretty regularly for a nonprofit news outlet called The
Florida Phoenix, which I actually use some of their stuff
were allowed to. They have five reporters and they cover
some pretty good nuts and bolts reporting around the state.
But they also have a commentary page. And Dian Roberts,
who is a professor at FSU and an Oxford graduate

(44:47):
with rights and she she's one of these far left progressives,
which again is fine if you stick to the if
you stick to the issues, but she wrote a piece
that really fits in with the you know, the rhetoric
that we talked from these activist groups, and it had
to do with the FSU shooting, you know, tying it
to an ideology, tying it to MAGA and this is

(45:10):
how she ended her opinion piece, which just really set
me off and I thought people should know about it.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
And I'm not sure.

Speaker 9 (45:16):
Why Florida Phoenix would provide an opportunity as a nonprofit
news outlet to do this. But she goes like I said,
you can read the piece online. It's about the shooter
and basically about the ideology the shooter trying to blame
this on you know, MAGA supporters and Trump. And she
ends with this, the United States government manufactures hatred against

(45:36):
anyone who's not a white Christian, embracing violence against its citizens.
Nowhere is safe. Now again, that is Is that an opinion?
Sure it is, but it is it is an opinion
that I don't think should be given from any kind
of credible news source. I would say if this came
across TR's desk in terms of a commentary, I would

(46:00):
read that and I would call the person that rute
and say, look, you know, how do you do This
is an opinion? But is it based in any kind
of fact?

Speaker 1 (46:07):
And which is the standard across a lot of journalistic
outlay it.

Speaker 9 (46:11):
Is I mean Wall Street Journal opinion page, they just
don't print. You don't just submit it, and they print it.
They verify what you're saying in there. You can have
opinions on things, but this is nothing but divisive rhetoric
supporting this white supremacy notion, and it is coming from
a professor at FSU.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Did she identify herself as such?

Speaker 9 (46:31):
She does not in her bio, which I think is interesting.
And so anyway, I think it's important to those because
there are people out there that want to divide us
and on the most basic issues, and to try to
tie this FSU shooting to an ideology I think is
just a stretch. And unfortunately they're educated people, not just

(46:51):
political activists that do it.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
We need to love to be a fly on the
wall in her classes or not.

Speaker 9 (47:00):
I mean again, I think as we've talked about people
that have jobs are responsible for what they write and say,
we've seen this with police officers, you know, and so
you do have a first miment, right, but they've become
consequences on this. And again that statement in itself that
I just read, I would be asking, look, really is
this something? Is this necessary to make your point? And

(47:21):
it's just it's like almost like just trying to get
a headline.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Thanks as always, Thank you Press. Steve Stewart teleascureports dot com.
You are listening on an old radio in your car
work truck, or streaming on one of those other thingies.
Thanks for joining us. It's the Morning Show with Preston
Scott thirty five minutes after Thursday on the program next hour,

(47:56):
I'm going to try to help some of you stay fit,
flexible and avoid surgery. If you're thinking of any kind
of joint surgery, back surgery, hang on. I know you're
not like going in today. Well maybe if you are,
you might want to put your foot down on the
floor and stop that gurney from rolling into the oar.

(48:17):
Just saying, give us a chance to talk to you.

Speaker 11 (48:21):
Now.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I'll get Chad Gray joining us from Joint Strong, and
we're going to talk about keeping you you feeling better
fit and your joints functioning properly. Talk about the realities
of surgery. You know, Jose and I were talking about
it earlier. You just you just don't know, just man.

(48:43):
I I'm of the mindset avoid going under the knife
if at all possible. I've gone under it twice in
my lifetime, and so anyway. Big stories in the press box.
Another major company announced a huge, sorry, huge, huge investment

(49:07):
in the United States. Hines is spending three billion dollars
to upgrade at US factories, make their plants run more efficiently,
allow them to develop and sell new products quicker. This
is all money spent in North America. Friends, It's thirty

(49:31):
plants across the United States. They also sell Maxwell House coffees.
It's gonna help there. It's gonna help with all their brands.
They're joining Anheuser Busch spending three hundred million into its plants,
Kimberly Clark more than two billion over the next five

(49:53):
years alone. This this is money that Obama, Biden, all
the Democrats said was never coming to America. They weren't
spending it a year manufacturing. Now. Some is modernizing, absolutely,

(50:13):
but it's money spent, and that money trickles down into
the economy. Yes, there is a trickle down aspect to
every dollar spent. It'sists to those on the left that
say there's no such thing as trickle down economics, they're
just foolish. A capitalist economy is the great circle of life.

(50:42):
You do work, you get paid, You take some of
that money and you buy stuff. You pay your rent,
you pay your mortgage. The people you pay it to
take that money and invest it elsewhere. You take your
money that you have discretionary and you spend it, and

(51:02):
you purchase groceries and you purchase things, and that then
employs other people and they get their checks, and it
just it. I don't know how anyone argues against a
trickle down economy. I don't know how you do it.
Democrats trying to defend medicaid coverage for illegal immigrants, good
luck with that. The cruise industry gaining people back post COVID.

(51:27):
But now there's a new problem. First of all, cruise
ships are really amazing technological wonders. That said, the idea
of being locked on board a ship with three to
eight nine thousand other people where you can go nowhere,
but you're fighting with all those same people for whatever

(51:47):
the amenities are. That doesn't interest me much. But here's
the new problem. Department of Transportation twenty three alleged rapes.
Forty eight total crimes reported on in just the very
first part of twenty twenty five on board cruise ships.

(52:08):
That's not good. And there's your other problem. How are
they screening their employees? Now, not all of these crimes
are likely committed by employees of the cruise lines, but
it's still a question because we have seen Cruise Live employees.

(52:28):
We've told the stories of attacks on children, you know, tweeners, teeners,
in teens, in spas and saunas. We shared that story
like oh yeah, forty minutes past the hour, talk about
something much much friendlier next. As you may or may

(52:58):
not know, and the only way you don't know is
by not listening as often as you should to this program.
The new series, the new season of the series Alone
is coming in June June twelfth, nine o'clock Eastern on
the History Channel. They are going to the Great Carew

(53:19):
Desert in South Africa, and they put ten survivalists in
isolation with video cameras. They're on their own. They have
a satellite phone and an emergency locator and the only
time they can make a call is if they need

(53:40):
to tap out and quit. Last one surviving gets half
a mill. They get a list of a fairly robust
list of personal items, clothing and things that they're allowed
to bring. It's a very defined list, and then they
get to pick ten items from the headings of shelter, betting, hygiene,

(54:01):
tools and hunting, cooking, and food. There are food items
they can bring, but it counts against their list. They
get ten total from those categories. So, Jose, if I
were to ask you, what was number one on your list?
That was? That's how I put my list together. What
are the things that I absolutely have to have? And

(54:24):
then I filled in from there. What was your most
important item that you picked?

Speaker 9 (54:29):
Well, I would have.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
To say the most important item that I.

Speaker 9 (54:32):
Picked was the the.

Speaker 11 (54:35):
Flint or farroh rod. I figure fire is extremely important.
The area it's it's a semi desert, so there is
you know, trees and some brush, you know, to make fire.
There's a there's a huge water source, you know, for
fish and what have you. So I figured getting a
fire started, you know, to stay warm, to cook food,

(54:56):
to sanitize water is a fairly important and the easier
I can make that the better.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Okay, fair enough. What was number two on your list?

Speaker 11 (55:06):
Number two for me would would be my source of
catching food or a flashlight.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
You went with a flashlight? Huh yeah, because you know,
not night times.

Speaker 11 (55:17):
You know, it's kind of scary, you I need a
little bit of light.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
It's pretty important for me personally. Okay, Okay. Number one
on my list was the pharaoh rod. You have to
be able to start a fire. Fire is a fire
is how you purify your water. Fire is how you're
gonna cook whatever food you're gonna eat. For the most part,

(55:39):
fire is as as important for your mental state of
mind as anything else. Just having a fire at night
is huge. Plus the smoke from a fire can help
clean your clothing. You can smoke your clothing and destroy

(56:05):
just like you smoke foods. You smoke your food to
do what to to kill organisms that are in the
food right to preserve it. Okay, you can smoke your
clothing and then oh, by the way, the charcoal left behind,
brush your teeth with it. You can you can use

(56:27):
that charcoal to brush your teeth. And so I'm absolutely
with you one hundred percent. Fire is everything. And given
that I don't have the skill set to make a
fire with one of those you know strings with a

(56:47):
bow and you know the friction fire, I'm not I'm
I will not expend that much energy to make fire.
So the Pharaoh ride is absolutely huge on my list too.
We're gonna we're gonna be going through this once a week,
going through our list of items. So that's my one's
that's number one. We've gotten through two or three of Jose's.

(57:09):
You can go to the website alone. It's the History
Channel I think it's History channel dot com Orhistory dot
com slash alone, and then you can go to the
list of the of the items and do your own
little Okay, what would you bring? It's actually a fund
mental exercise, isn't it to just kind of think through,
because when you have to only pick ten, you really

(57:32):
have to prioritize and think very long and hard. I'll
give you one hint on on one of the items
that I spent a lot of time researching. Five point
fifty parachord or bank line. That was a tough call.

(57:52):
We'll get to that forty seven minutes past. The out
come back road trip idea, not alone, but with others.
Road drip idea. Now, remember we're starting in Florida, and

(58:13):
we're spreading out and we're giving you suggestions for roadies
that you can take this summer. I'm going to be
a little bit more focused and I am going to
include some Florida road trips for the summer where you're
starting in this part of the state, the Big Bend,
the Panhandle, and moving out. But we're still covering the
fifty States, and we're heading to the west and Louisiana.

(58:38):
And I'll be honest with you, Louisiana is kind of
a different road trip destination because it's such a melting
pot of cultures. You've got French, African American influences, the
Creole and the Cajun colliding. Talk about alliteration, huh. And

(59:03):
if you drive from say, New Orleans to Lake Charles,
it's a it's a scenic drive. You you know, it's southern.
Louisiana is a swamp man, it just is. And so
I would say in and around Lake Charles, you're gonna
find a lot of festivals. You're gonna find a lot

(59:24):
of rhythm and blues music. And of course New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
I just.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
I'm not a New Orleans fan, but that might be
your thing. If that's your thing. And you loved, you
love jazz, the French Quarter, you know, that is that
is the place. My dad, uh loved the jazz music
found in the French Quarter, and that was absolutely the thing.

(59:52):
But the Chapelaya Basin, which is the largest Martian basin
bayou system in the country. And oh, by the way,
the name the best soup I've ever had a chaffal
aya soup at Cousha's here in town. It is the
singular best soup I've ever eaten in my life. And

(01:00:12):
I am I'm a bit of a soup connoisseur. I
I am just that's the best soup. And it's not
even close. It's it's by a mile. It is. It
is the It is what clam chowder wanted to be

(01:00:32):
when it grew up. A chaffel as soup. It's not
just bogged down with a ridiculous size and amount of potatoes,
because it's not really that kind of thing. It's got shrimp,
it's got crab, it's got in dewey sausage. It is
just it is seasoned, it's got a little kick to it.

(01:00:55):
It's a cream base. It's spectacular. And it's named after
the chafalaya basin, just saying it's a staple. So if
you're gonna make a roadie, I think New Orleans is like,
it's just not a place I would detour. Two, the

(01:01:19):
roads are really bad. I ten along. Louisiana's a train wreck.
I think you endure it to go somewhere else. But
I take the northern route and hit the interstate north
of I ten. That's going east and west. I forget
what it is, but we'll get to Texas. Texas is

(01:01:40):
a good road trip because there's a huge state to explore.
And I got some suggestions for you when we come back,
I will boldly predict we're gonna save some of you
some surgeries and we're gonna help a lot of you
feel better. He Chad Gray joins me from Joint Strong. Next,

(01:02:04):
it's gonna be a lot of fun the next hour
here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Don't you
leave or I will have my feelings hurt and I
might hold a grudge. Five minutes past the hour, it's

(01:02:32):
the third hour Morning Show with Preston Scott Show fifty
three to eighty. I'm laughing because I've been into Chad
Gray's torture chamber on more than one occasion, and where
he is the expert and there is no doubting that,
and now he's in mine. It's been a while since
you and I have talked on the show.

Speaker 12 (01:02:52):
How are you it's been a few years. Yeah, I'm incredible.
Thank you for having me. This is wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
No, I thank you for having me over the years
and let me Chad this way. Friends. Years and years ago,
when I was doing a very regimented workout routine at
TITAS Sports Academy, I started having some very low back
issues and I was really getting annoyed by it. And

(01:03:17):
Adam Farrow, one of the founders of TITA Sports Academy.
Adam said, Hey, I want you to see this guy.
Don't go there, don't see the orthopedic surgeon. People go
see Chad Gray. And what happened started a very long
relationship that's probably been twelve years ago, maybe longer.

Speaker 12 (01:03:36):
Yeah, maybe longer than that, twelve to fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
And and what Chad did for me was he educated me.
And I think that was what was so significant is
that I learned and I've never had that back problem since.
Now He's addressed other issues that I've encountered as I age,
because that's what we do. We age and we encounter things.
But Chad is co founder of something called Joint Strong.

(01:04:01):
Jointstrong dot Com is the website, and Chad give everybody
just a snapshot. What is your mission in purpose? With
Joint Strong.

Speaker 12 (01:04:09):
Primary mission is to reduce the incidents and prevalence and
the overall kind of cost burden that this condition category
this domain of healthcare or the muscular skelet to themain
or the orthopedic domains as many people may know it
as the impact that it has on our society when
you when you look at this space from a cost respective,

(01:04:30):
if you look at the health plans around America, you
know organizations like Capital Health Plan locally your self funded plans,
and companies like you know, Michelin and Walmart and organizations
like that that you know they fund their own health
care for their employees and their dependents. This particular condition
category is now one of our number one or two

(01:04:52):
highest cost spins in healthcare, and it's it's created an epidemic.
Almost in the last fifty years in this country, the
incidents and prevalence of this condition has risen dramatically. Where
I think now most of the study data, the epidemiological
studies show that about half of the population in this

(01:05:13):
country specifically will have a chronic muscular skeletal condition develop
in their lifetime. So it is truly an epidemic both
from the impact it has on our ability to function
and live a high quality of life as we age
and as a burden on the society as far as

(01:05:34):
cost goes, or on the payers of health care services
in this country, it has a tremendous burden on them
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
So you've attacked this not just from the physiological the
body the mechanism that is our body's standpoint. You've attacked
this from literally a statistical digging into the details and
the data.

Speaker 12 (01:05:54):
We started our whole journey really diving into the data
and trying to understand really what was the core catalyst
for this phenomenon we were seeing happen around this country
and around the world. What was it that drove the
trends and the patterns that we were seeing in the data.
And you know, this is one of the more studied

(01:06:15):
areas of medicine. We write about one hundred thousand articles
of a year, a peer review articles a year that
get published in some of the most well recognized mainstream
journals in the world. And so there was plenty of
evidence out there to show us what was happening, what
we were doing wrong in healthcare while we were seeing
these dramatic rises and costs and incidents and prevalence. But

(01:06:35):
you know, once you get a system moving in a direction,
once we started practicing medicine in the space. Once they
start kind of moving in that direction, it's really hard
to change it as new information and new evidence comes out.
So it's hard to turn a big ship. And we
started out with a really dedicated and focused and rigorous

(01:06:56):
effort to take that science and build new methods and
practices based on that science and embed them into clinical
practices and clinical applications that really allowed us to produce
better outcomes and better results than historically we have been
seeing in medicine.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
We're going to focus on those better outcomes and results.
We're going to drill down into some very specific areas.
Chad's with me for most of the hour. It's ten
past seventy second break for weather in traffic jointstrong dot
com to learn more and if you're feeling some issues
in your body, that would be a really smart website
to remember. We'll talk more next and this is the

(01:07:44):
Morning Show with Preston Scott Chad Gray with me in
studio from jointstrong dot com and Chad, I remember saying
to you at some point in the last few years
that I just I'm determined not to be that person
that has lived most of my life at six four

(01:08:05):
and some change and ends up at six feet or
five eleven, because I just keep bending over more and
more and more. And we're seeing that. Are we seeing
that more and more and more?

Speaker 12 (01:08:17):
Yeah, we're seeing it more and more, certainly in the
aged population. I'm not necessarily including you in that group yet, Preston.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
I appreciate the yet we're all ahead and there. But yeah,
but you don't have to be there in that position.
You don't.

Speaker 12 (01:08:32):
Actually, you know, most of the stuff is completely preventable
and avoidable.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:08:37):
The more frightening thing is, you know, when I first
started in this business thirty one years ago, now, it
was uncommon for us to see teenagers or you know,
young adults in their twenties with these common manifestations that
we saw in the older population, you know, the stiff back,

(01:08:58):
the her needed disc, the bulging disk, the stiff knee
and shoulder and ankle, et cetera. And now what used
to be perhaps maybe five percent of our population coming
into the clinics now is about a third of it.
And a lot of these changes are created because of
our pattern, lifestyle, habits, and behaviors that we have as humans.

(01:09:19):
Now in our culture have changed, you know, compared to
let's say, one hundred years ago, when we were predominantly
in agricultural farming society, where we were moving constantly, moving
in ways that were unpredictable, often you know, aggressively moving,
moving to end range, as we call it. Those things
don't happen as much anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
The advent of the.

Speaker 12 (01:09:39):
Of the smartphone, of gaming systems, of technologies that allow
us now to be more sedentary and sit in postures
and positions we were never designed to be in before,
have now lent to the rising incidents and prevalence of
these conditions. You know, just once again, it wasn't something
that we saw fifty plus years ago. Now it's become

(01:10:01):
unusually common frightening to see, as a matter of fact,
how many young adults now, not just our older population,
but our young adults now, that have these challenging musculoskeletal
issues that are all once again preventable and avoidable if
we just knew what to do.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
I want to get to that point, but I want
to use as an example somebody that I sent your
way a few years ago that illustrates that in the
healthcare system, in the queue right now. They just aren't
trained to properly treat a lot of things that cause
people to seek out a surgeon and to seek out surgery.

(01:10:43):
And it was a young man that was he was
going to have an ACLMCL surgery. His knee was blew up,
but everything in his aftercare was basically wrong.

Speaker 12 (01:10:55):
Yes, you know, this becomes a difficult conversation sometimes to have,
especially in the healthcare world. You know, if you look
at the curriculum in medical schools around the US, less
than three percent of the curriculum on average is spent
on trying to understand, assess, precisely diagnosed, and then ultimately

(01:11:15):
select treatment for patients in the orthopedic or musculars.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Got little space.

Speaker 12 (01:11:19):
So we've got this massive gap in training in med school,
and then we drop into our residencies after med school,
and there's generally less than two weeks for our primary
care and our internal medicine docs about how to once
again assess and diagnose and select treatment for this particular population.
And so you've got these huge gaps in education and training,

(01:11:40):
and then you drop into a clinical practice as a
primary care internal medicine doc and about a fourth of
your day is spent on managing people who are coming
in with painful joint systems.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Back pain, knee.

Speaker 12 (01:11:53):
Pain, hip pain, shoulder pain, you know the common ones,
the big five the hip, knee, shoulder, back and neck
or the big five.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
You see.

Speaker 12 (01:12:00):
And so you've got massive gaps in training and you've
got a high volume of patient's coming in. Leads to
a ton of variation in how these people get managed
and treated.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
And oftentimes they get referred, perhaps prematurely for surgery oftentimes.

Speaker 12 (01:12:14):
I mean it's kind of the default mechanism. I think
that a lot of your your physicians, you're kind of
gatekeeping physicians use as a as a method of management.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
And the good news, folks, is that there are alternatives.
And it's not to say that there's not a place
or a time for surgery. We do it great when
when it's really needed. We love surgery. The issue is
do we really need it?

Speaker 12 (01:12:35):
Do we really need it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
And that's what we're going to challenge. Yes, yeah, all right,
we're going to go there. Next Chad Gray Jointstrong dot Com.
We're gonna get to specific those five areas. We're gonna
start talking about those next. Chad Great with joint strong

(01:13:04):
Key's co founder. Jointstrong dot com is the website we're
talking about your back and your hips, and your shoulder
and your knees and all of the different things that
your joints just cause you problems. And over the years,
I've had Chad attack multiple things with me with tremendous success,
and I wanted to Chad, what do the numbers say

(01:13:28):
about how frequently someone has surgery and it might have
been avoidable.

Speaker 12 (01:13:36):
We work with some fairly large payer organizations, self funded
organizations like Walmart and Michelin and others. We have access
to detailed claims data, so we can kind of track
a cohort of patients for seeing inside of our organization
versus those are still seeking.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Carria, as we call it, kind of out in the wild.

Speaker 12 (01:13:56):
The numbers of kind of overutilized or unnecessary surgeries, you know,
fall somewhere in that sixty five to seventy five percent
range surgeries that were completely avoidable had the right intervention
or treatment or care been provided. So fairly alarming statistic
when you when you consider the impact that has on
your life once the surgery occurs, and the cost burden

(01:14:19):
of that to our society, to not only the consumer,
but to the payer organizations as well. A tremendous burden
that's there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
So am I oversimplifying by drawing the analogy that it's
not unlike a weed in your yard that you can
just see the thing and pluck it out if you
deal with it early, or you can end up having
basically a tree grow in your yard and be stuck
with a real problem.

Speaker 12 (01:14:40):
Yeah, there are clear warning signs that tell us these
things are coming, these joint issues are developing, are coming.
We just don't quite understand the language our body uses.
Sometimes we don't interpret the data very well. As we
say in the clinic. You know, stiffness and pain are
the early warning signs and indicators that these things are

(01:15:01):
developing and approaching us, and we tend to try and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Kind of brush that off.

Speaker 12 (01:15:07):
Oftentimes, as we get older, we use age as our excuse.
We go, well, I'm just getting older. They told me
this is going to happen, so I'm just going to
kind of live with it. Or we'll just pop a
few pills, take a few tile and hal or get
a prescription here and there to kind of deaden or
numb the pain, and we just kind of ignore it
and let it continue to fester.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
And it sounds like you're describing what I talked about
a couple segments ago with the older person who starts
to hunch over more and more and more. They're kind
of giving up. Yeah, they give up.

Speaker 12 (01:15:37):
Those those changes and mobility are a direct buyer product
and result of our failure to go to what we
call end range movement. The joint systems adapt and change
based upon the stresses we put through them. So for instance,
if I just take my finger and leave it bent
for a few weeks, eventually I won't be able to
straighten anymore. I won't be able to move. The tissues

(01:15:59):
adapt to the stress is applied to them. We have
structures called ligaments that hold and support and bind our
joint systems together. And those ligamentostructures remain supple if I
use them through their full.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
And entire range of motion.

Speaker 12 (01:16:12):
They stiffen and adapt and change if I don't. Those
gradual adaptations and changes in flexibility and those passive support
structures around the joint are what lead to most of
the pain and discomfort and stiffness that we experience. And
once again, if you think logically or intuitively about it.

(01:16:33):
If if I just take something that starts to get
stiff and move it aggressively through its full range of motion,
I can avoid that. You know, we've all experienced to friend,
family members or ourselves that have had maybe perhaps a
fracture of a bone, and they put you in a cast,
and what's that what's that joint look like when you
come out of the cast. Well, it's stuck, it's locked, right,

(01:16:55):
And what do I do for to that point? I
start aggressively pursuing movement. I push it, I push it,
push it till I restore the mobility that I lost.
That's an extreme example of what I'm talking about here,
you know, where we just to mobilize something for weeks
and weeks and weeks and then it gets stuck. But
imagine a person who sits in a chair for thirty
five years behind a computer and sits in a slopster

(01:17:19):
forward bent posture and never straightens up or never bends
backward fully in the opposite direction. Over time, those tissues
adapt to those stresses and they change.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
And it becomes more comfortable to be in that forward
leaning position than the one that you're going the other way.
That's right.

Speaker 12 (01:17:36):
As I change, I adapt and compensate my entire lifestyle
to fit that new change, and then that continue to
perpetuate this transformation, not in a good way.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
And so instead of dealing with a little bit of
discomfort by going the other way and pushing that to
the end range, we avoid the pain altogether the best
we can. But meanwhile it's just encroaching more and more trying.

Speaker 12 (01:18:00):
We instinctively as humans, we're built and designed to avoid
things that hurt. Sure, but in these circumstances, you have
to move into the stiffness and ultimately into the pain
to restore the joint's normal motion, restore that range movement,
restore function back to the joint system, and abolish the pain.
These these symptoms are completely reversible. We know that now

(01:18:23):
based upon the science and based upon our clinical results.
If we just can get to people and teach them
how to change a few behaviors in their lifestyle to
kind of restore what's been.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Lost, learn that's key to all of this. Learning to
help yourself more with Chad Gray from jointstrong dot com
twenty seven Past the Hour.

Speaker 13 (01:18:52):
Thought or story you want to share, write them at
Preston at iHeartRadio dot com. Yes, he knows how to read. Well,
actually his producer reads him. He doesn't know how to read.
Welcome to the Morning Show with Preston Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Back with Chad Gray of joint Strong the website jointstrong
dot com. Chad breakdown percentage wise, the areas of greatest
concern and who you see the most.

Speaker 12 (01:19:26):
About fifty percent of the volume in healthcare in the
muscular skull space is spine related, so you low back neck.
The other fifty percent is predominantly comprised of shoulder and
hip and knee. You've got a sprinkling of elbows and

(01:19:46):
wrists and ankles here and there, but most of the
large joint systems, the hip, knee, and shoulder and then
the spine constitute you know, ninety plus percent of everything.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
And the back can be the source of a lot
of pain in a lot of other places that you
don't know. The real issue is in the back. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:20:03):
The spine has a unique ability, certainly in the instance
where a disc bulges or herniates and mixed contact with
the nerve root. We all kind of understand the basic
presentation of sciatica. For instance, you know where you've got
the radiating pain through your butck, down your leg all
the way to your foot in some instances. But even
without compressing the nerve root the spine, whenever the disc structure,

(01:20:25):
which is a ligament, it's the largest ligament in the spine,
whenever that structure becomes stiffened or rigid more rigid, it
has the ability to refer pain into the shoulder and
into the hip, and into the the thigh and the
upper arm. So a lot of the conditions that we
see coming into the clinic that are, you know, not
directly you know, located in the in the region of

(01:20:45):
the back, but they're out in the in the in
the shoulder, upper arm, and hip, and thigh are actually
referred from the from the spine themselves. The disc structures
get stiff, they get a little tight, and their way
of telling us that that's happening is to refer a
symptom or a pain out that way.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
One of the things that I've observed in my time
with you is you're able to oftentimes determine whether I have,
quote an injury that might need a specific type of
treatment versus something that I can work on and get
better in relief. Is you're able to identify pretty quickly

(01:21:23):
whether a few minutes of this, that, or the other
type of movement can bring some relief or added strength.

Speaker 12 (01:21:31):
Yeah, most of your orthopedic conditions, muscular skeletal conditions are
not structural defects. There's not something that's broken or damaged,
or the join isn't worn out to the point where
it's bone on bone, truly bone on bone. Most of
the conditions that we see coming to the clinic are
simple mechanical problems where the join has gotten so stiff

(01:21:54):
or it's lost so much motion, but it's now aching,
it's painful. The ligament of structures have tightened, or fibros
is kind of the formal term that it's used for
that condition or that presentation, the structure of fibrosis, and
it gets so tight that it's now altering the mechanics
of the joint system. Well, if you think about that
process that phenomena, the person that's best suited to manage

(01:22:18):
and treat it is the patient. They carry that joint
system around with them all day long. So if I
can find movements or positions that create favorable responses, kind
of a cause and effect relationship between you moving that
way and you reducing or abolishing your pain, then me
teaching the patient how to use those movements really is
the best medicine. It's how we ultimately are able to

(01:22:42):
self treat or teach people self treatment strategies or techniques
for about eighty to eighty five percent of all the
conditions we manage in the clinics. So most things don't
require injections, they don't require medication, they don't require surgeries,
they require thorough education. Are teaching software principles and practices

(01:23:03):
that take that joint system to en range and restore
what's been lost in those what used to be otherwise
supple elastic, pliable structures.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
And sometimes it's as simple as does movement a work
or does movement be work? But one of the two
of them.

Speaker 12 (01:23:19):
Is going to work correct In most joint conditions, you
have what we call a directional preference. One direction of
movement's going to work better than all the others. And
interestingly enough, when you look at the patterns and the
clinics that we have, it most often is moving them
in the direction from where the joint system spends the
least amount.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Of time, making them off a sense from.

Speaker 12 (01:23:41):
Where they hang out at most of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
So if the person's leaning using the back leaning forward,
let's try to find the right movement going back the
other way.

Speaker 12 (01:23:49):
Eighty five percent of the time back pain is going
to be abolished or significantly reduced by moving them into
what we call extension or backwards bending. And it's not
it's not rocket science to figure out why we've been
forward three to five thousand times a day in our
normal lifestyle, we sit in a flexed or bent forward posture.

(01:24:10):
How many times a day do you bend backwards to
a pose or equalize that We don't. There's nothing in
my lifestyle that dictates that movement or requires it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Chad Gray with me one more segment. We're going to
talk some more Jointstrong dot com is the website. Chad

(01:24:42):
was just telling me, I saw the email from twenty
sixteen when you hit me up about that thumb of yours,
and I'd shared the story about not being able to
hold a golf club or hold a hammer for that matter,
and I thought, oh, man, I said to you, I
must have hurt my tendon or something like that, and
you're going probably not and flow and behold within minutes,

(01:25:03):
he's showing me where the problem really is. It was
not in my thumb, it was in my wrist. But
let's talk through to the people right now. There are
people that are dealing with pain in their joints, and
let's focus on the back. And or they have a
mom or a dad that's dealing with it, or a
friend or whatever starting point for them.

Speaker 12 (01:25:23):
Yeah, obviously, if if you sit and you listen to
the language that the body's using when you've got these
these back conditions, they it tells a really nice story
if you if you think about what the kind of
daily pattern is that you're experiencing, if you sit down
and you analyze that, you'll see there's a clear cut

(01:25:44):
pattern there. As I mentioned a few minutes ago on
that other segment, everything has a directional preference most of
the time, unless it's truly broken. Most of your back
pain patients tell you they can't stand to sit. They
don't like sitting down, sitting as in a position that
it's inherently filled with flexion. I sit in a flexed
or fullward bent posture. They will classically also tell you

(01:26:07):
when they come into the clinic that I feel better
when I walk well. Walking's the only functional activity we
do that promotes backwards bending or extension of the lumbar's
mind the low back. And so if that's a pattern
that you're noticing that when I bend to perslouch in
the chair, I get stiff and I hurt worse. But
when I get up and walk, I move better, I
feel better, I hurt less. Well, then don't be afraid

(01:26:28):
to explore movement in the direction it's clearly told you
you should be using and moving into backwards bending or
extension and lo and behold. In the clinic, about eighty
plus percent of everybody we see with back pain, severe
back pain pain locals of the low back, pain radiating
down the leg or not resolves by its teaching them

(01:26:49):
movement protocols in that direction. The science, the evidence in
the research is overwhelming in this area. It clearly shows
us that not only can we teach patients to self
treat and self manage vast majority of back pain by
using movement in that direction, but when we use it
prophylactically as a preventative tool, we can also stop it
from coming back again or from developing it all.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
And so.

Speaker 12 (01:27:12):
You've got to be willing to kind of lay down
the fear and the worry and the anxiety of pain
in the joint system and explore movement's impact on your
particular condition. Don't be afraid to move a joint that
hurts unless there's been trauma. That's very rare though, you know,
only about three to five percent of the cases we

(01:27:33):
see coming into the clinics come in because there was
some event that occurred, some catastrophic of inter or traumatic
event that occurred. Everything else is insidious and it's onset.
It just showed up for no reason at all. When
that happens, you have a green light now to start
exploring movement, no matter how bad that joint system's hurt
or how.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Bad it hurts.

Speaker 12 (01:27:53):
And you should be thoroughly exploring movements, specifically into directions
that the body has told you it would like for
you to use.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
And there are different ways of achieving those different extensions.

Speaker 12 (01:28:04):
There are there's, you know a couple of different methods
and ways you can apply that. You can do it
lying down, doing you know, kind of a simple cobra
type move.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
You see my stick in the corner, I see your stick, Yeah,
that's my back extension stick that I can. I fashioned
it after seeing you. I can move it up and
down my spine to isolate different areas and it works great.
That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:28:24):
So you can do it standing, which you obviously have
to do because it's studio here, but you can do
it lying down as well. But you know, those are
the two kind of primary positions where you can start
to apply those movements into the spine. And oftentimes what
you'll see is yet it hurts while I'm stretching or
moving it there. But once I finish, or once I've
done it for a day or two or three, all

(01:28:45):
of a sudden, moraculously I'm moving better and I'm hurting less.
When you get that response, you better aggressively pursue movement
in that direction to end range, get everything back in
that direction, because as soon as you do, I'll guarantee
you most of the time you're going to see it abolished.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
I'm going to end with a statement you made to
me years ago. You said, when you're ninety, if God
lets you live that long, you can have the same
back flexibility you had when you were eighteen. If you
work out, you.

Speaker 12 (01:29:12):
Just have to use it every single day. You have
to go through full en range movement in the joint
systems to stop these changes from occurring. It ain't rocket science,
as I always say.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
No, but the learning is about like it to me.
I've appreciated our friendship and thanks for coming in. Thank you, Preston,
Chad Gray. It's Jointstrong dot com where you can learn
more and again, just explore the movements and trust me,
you will be very grateful for the time you spent listening.

(01:29:47):
More to come on the Morning Show with Preston Scott

(01:30:13):
two three three words. I'll avoid the contraction. You are welcome. Yeah,
that's it, You're welcome. There are needed surgeries where it's

(01:30:39):
absolutely necessary, and then there's the other massive percentage where
it's not and you can spare yourself. All I can
tell you is there are things you can do to
maintain your flexibility and quality of life. And I am

(01:31:01):
working hard on my flexibility. Literally every single day. I
am working on my flexibility because I am not gonna.

Speaker 10 (01:31:14):
Be and guided has been over because I just I
was a sissy and I didn't want to want a
little pain.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
And so you live in pain and you walk hunched
over and it gets worse and worse and worse and
worse and worse. You don't have to live that way
all right, Tomorrow on the program, It's Friday, and that
means HiT's Friday.

Speaker 8 (01:31:43):
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Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
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them there. Bay County Council on Aging will pick them up.
But we'd love for you to stop buying an ACE Hardware
store and get a box fan for senior adults in
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(01:32:16):
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Street is a drop off point, as is our radio
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(01:32:37):
our thanks to Westminster Oaks for helping us out along
with PEPSI here in the local area. For stepping up
and helping us as well. Tomorrow, what would you do?
M I've got I've got a really interesting one. We've
got another addition to What's the Beef, Best and Worst,

(01:32:57):
some good news headlines from the Bee, and a course
the news of the day. The conversation with Chad Gray
will be on the Conversations podcast, and the next day
or so it will of course be included in the
podcast of the Morning Show, which we'll hit in just
an hour or so. We thank you very much, as
always friends for being part of the radio broadcast and

(01:33:19):
listening to the show. Remember that's Jointstrong dot Com. Help thyself,
got some pain work it. See you tomorrow.

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