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This is the full episode of The Morning Show with Preston Scott for Monday, May 19th

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- Dr. Joe Camps 





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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome morning friends, good morning show choir singing God Bless America.
That's Jose over there in Studio one A. I'm here
in Studio one B. I'm Preston Scott. Welcome to the
radio program effectually known as Come a Sense amplified. It's
the Morning Show, and it's good to be with you.
Show fifty three eighty two just occurs to me. We

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will be we will be spiraling to show fifty five
hundred sometime this year. Well maybe not. We might not
get to fifty five this year, but yeah, we're definitely
getting to fifty four fifty four hundred by the end
of the summer. But anyway, great to be with you.
And we'll start today with Psalm one hundred, verse four.

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It says, enter his gates with thanksgiving, and his courts
with praise, give him thanks and bless his name.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I think sometimes when we.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Read a verse like that, we're a little dismissive because
it's like, Okay, we've sung songs that say that, and
it becomes so common we lose the principle. Do you
see the principle in those In those words, there's a principle,

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enter his gates with thanksgiving, and his courts with praise.
So who's the his Well, that's God, capital G, not
a little G. It's a capital G. It says to

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enter his courts with thanksgiving and with praise. So let's
just make this a literal place for the purpose of
establishing the principle that Psalm is telling us that when

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we approach God, when we come before him, yours should
be an attitude of thanksgiving, of gratefulness, of appreciation. Enter

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his gates with thanksgiving. It's about the attitude of the heart.
Then his courts. The gates lead to the courts, And
I think what it transmits to me is that an

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attitude of thanksgiving unlocks the gates that then get you
to the courts. And it's your praise, your bestowing the
virtues of God and his nature and his attributes. That's

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what gets you to his presence, gates to courts, to presence.
Imagine yourself walking in before God. Do so with thanksgiving
and with praise. Ten past the hour, I.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Do what you're talking about, what you will be talking
and most importantly, what you should be talking about.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's The Morning Show with Preston Scott. Twelve past the hour,
May nineteenth, not a lot. Seventeen forty nine, George the
Second grants the Ohio Company a large expanse of land
to promote a settlement of the Ohio River Valley. King George,

(04:04):
you may build something there. Yes, I think that would
be fine. For we went nuts. No, that was the third.
That was Dad in George's second that granted that. Eighteen
twenty eight, President John Quincy Adams signs a protective tariff
considered unfair in the South, which it's which is labeled

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the Tariff of Abominations. Eighteen sixty four Confederate attack against
Union forces and several days are horrific fighting at the
Battle of Spotsylvania Courthouse in Virginia. And in nineteen twenty one,
Congress places quotas on the number of immigrants entering the
United States. What a novel IDEA great thought, Cubby. Let's

(04:52):
see here it is National roadie Day. Okay, National ray Day.
I guess that's a sunshine thing. Hot over the weekend.
We got hot and a hurried, didn't we. I'll be

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just fine if we calm it back down into the
low eighties, Thank you very much. Tell you a quick
story here in a second, and it's National devil Food
Cake Day. I wish it just weren't named Devil's Food.
I just, I just, but boy do I love it

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because it's chocolate anyway. So I make this offer to
my wife. I said, what do you think. Let's it's Saturday,
we can we can go find breakfast somewhere and then
drive you to the coast and get you some salt
air in your lungs. Just get your feet into the

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sand at the beach and just spend half a day
driving and wandering around and driving back. The farm girl
in her says, yeah, but we've got there's stuff that
we really need to do in the yard. I said,
all right, well you decide. So she's torn between that

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side of her that's like, my honey wants to take
me to the beach, put the top down in the car,
and you know, convertible sunshine. She's all about that and
her lungs benefit from the salt air at the coast.

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But there's that farm girl practicality about her that's like, yeah,
but we haven't had a weekend to work in the
yard for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
And there are I.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Mean, it's endless right vines and different things there's always
something to do in our yard. And I love working
on our yard. I take great joy in it. But
so she said, no, please decide, and I said, no,
you're deciding, and I just nope. So she brought out
a coin and she flipped a coin. Heads, we head

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to the beach, tails, we work our tail off. It
came up tails. I wanted to scream two out of three,
but it was like, nope, Okay, that's what we're doing.
And so five and a half hours later, as we

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went into the nineties, and my body just said, yeah,
no more. I told her about three and a half
hours in, I said, I have stopped sweating. When you stop,
and I'm drinking like crazy. I'm just I am hug
in electrolytes water like crazy. And when you stop sweating,

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doctor Joe Camps, we may talk about it later in
the third hour, Joe's joining us in studio. He'll tell you,
when you stop sweating, that is a that's a dangerous
sign when you stop sweating. So I quickly started to
find myself a little shade and get some air on me.
And I might have taken a blower and put it

(08:28):
under my shirt. I don't know. I might have done that,
I might not have I'm not sure, but we got
a lot done. The boy was hot. And how about
Scottie Scheffler come on when in his third major, just
blowing away the field seventeen past the hour. That was
awesome to watch back with. Hey, it's never too early,

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trust me, Oh mercy me. News coming in as we

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speak from late last night that we'll shape the show today. Friday,
I went up, drove up to kro and I enjoy
hitting golf balls. Most of the time. I'll go to
a place called Tired Creek golf Course because it's reliable

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in having grass, and it gets beat up because goobers
don't pay attention to the ropes and hitting within the area,
so they beat up the turf way too much. But
they're adding some mats in the back, and that's not
my favorite thing in the world. I won't be hitting
off of those. But at any rate, I love Ray Tory,

(10:09):
the staff over there and just good people, and so
it's just a place where I go. I enjoy the
drive up there and I unplugged my brain and just
work on swinging a golf club because it's just something
I enjoy and then I heard the rumble, and then

(10:32):
it was getting louder and louder, like that is not
a passenger yet, that is not a commercial airliner. That
is something else. And lo and behold, flying low altitude,
little above tree tops, an A ten warthog. And then

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about thirty seconds after a second one, I'm betting some
of you I would bet they flew the area, which
brought them down into the Tallahassee North North part of
Tallahassee area. I just I just wanted to throw down

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my golf clubs, take off my hat, cover my heart
and salute man. It was just awesome. And I know
what and you know what an A ten can do.
And it's just they're they're called tankbusters.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
They're just.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
People, bad guys in tanks and armored personnel carriers. They
do not want to see an A ten. They just
don't this massive gatling gun in the front. And it's
just a mean looking thing. And anyway, just a random

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observation under the category of never too early. You know,
Father's Day is coming up. Just had Mother's Day. Dear
old Dad matters too.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Now.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Dad'll tell you, ah, I don't need nothing. Honestly, you
can believe him, because most dads don't. They just don't.
But if you insist, I will be here to help you.

(12:35):
I am a gift guru. People have trusted me at
Christmas time to direct them to places where you can
find unique things. Same is true for Father's See. Now,
I will start with the Kevin's catalog, because if you've

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not seen the catalog for Kevin's Fine Outdoor Gear in
a peril, it's a catalog that distribute. I think they
have over a million distributions of that catalog. They've got
a mailing list all over the world. I mean, people
fly their their private jets into Thomasville to go to

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the Thomasville store.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
That's what they do.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
So I will be sharing with you some thoughts. But
let's begin with some key catalogs and outlets. And Kevin's
is a first stop, all right, So just there you go,
get ahead of it. Wives, kids, just saying, twenty seven

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minutes past the outbu I'm gonna help you with specifics
down the road.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
You mayor of Realville dispense information at the speed of sound.
And if you're lucky, he'll be wearing his Clark Kent
glasses today the morning Show with Preston Scott.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
This is one of those days.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Can't do a deep dive on any one of these stories.
Some of this will unpack itself over time, but this
is just a snapshot of what's going on out there.
Late last night, the House Budget Committee passed by a
seventeen to sixteen vote.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
A reconciliation bill.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
They shut it down earlier last day, were like, no, now,
this is this is the Trump bill, big beautiful bill.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
They had a.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Hearing at ten o'clock on a Sunday night. What does
that tell you? Four conservatives said no on the floor
of the House. He can only afford three to say no. Well,
four are against it right now. There's so much wrong

(15:24):
with this. They're actually they are continuing extending some of
the Inflation Reduction Act nonsense that Biden put in place
instead of ending it right now, the work requirements for

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Medicaid not in place properly. And then it's the impact
of the bill cost. The cost of the bill continues
to add to our debt more deficit spending.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Second big story.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
You might not have seen this, but Moody's has cut
the credit rating of the United States because of our
debt and deficit. And before anybody gets upset at Moody's
because it has triggered a bit of a pullback in
the markets.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
As well, they should.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
It's about time the US got hit with its credit rating.
We borrow too much money, we are over leveraged as
a result. Another big story. Gold prices now are above
thirty two hundred dollars an ounce. That's because the dollar

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is shaky, because we are overspending. Supreme Court extends the
block on the deportation of alleged Venezuelan gang members. The
Court said there were two dissent votes, and it's Sam
Alito and Clarence Thomas, but it was a seven and
two vote, and what the court said was, you can't

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deport these guys under the Alien Enemies Act. Now, the
court did say there are other remedies that they can
be deported under, but that ain't one of them, and
they cited concerns overdue process. This is what the Biden

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administration knew was going to happen. Trump Putin are supposedly
going to talk this week, whether face to face on
a zoom call or some equivalent.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
They're going to have face to face talks to try to.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
End the war in Ukraine. And I don't know if
you saw the Mexican naval ship that was straight from
the Pirates of the Caribbean. All that was missing was
the orchestra score. But they've got some poor souls on

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the mass of these ships. And at no point did
the captain consider, let's take a look and see how
tall is.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Our ship.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
And how low is that bridge? Drove the thing into
the bridge, broke off the mast. I think two people
got killed, others critically injured. I don't know what the
totals are. People were just you've got to be kidding me.

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Can't they count past ds? I mean, that's the extent
of where my counting ends. So those are your big stories,
right That pretty much sums up the biggies. Forty minutes

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past the hour. Who knows those.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Well?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
It was posted over the weekend on my blog page, Wow,
the interview with Joe Biden Special Prosecutor Robert Orr. You
might remember that he made the decision, Well it was made.
I don't know if he made it. He might have

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been told to make it that they weren't going to
get a jury conviction. Even though Biden withheld classified documents
and I keep in mind that was the most meaningless
that that's like, that's like punishing your kid for not
cleaning their room when they've been lying and stealing from

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your purse or your wallet.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
It's like, really, they didn't think a jury would convict
him because he's just an absent minded old dude with
diminish mental acuity. The audio tape, we've got two different excerpts,
and then the entire five hour interview on my blog

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page if you want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
A couple four minute excerpts.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
And then the five hour, ten minute interview is on
my blog page right now. You can listen to it
for yourself. You can. I mean, it's it's it's so sad,
and it's equally sad. Well, let me let me back
up a second before I get to the other breaking

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news on Joe Biden, which many of you likely know.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
It's very clear.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Joe Biden was incapable of being the president even though
he wasn't he was the resident. It was very clear
that his four years he was not making any decisions whatsoever.
They were being made by others. And in an undercover
interview with O'Keefe media, the deputy chief of staff for

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Joe Biden, says to one of OMG's undercover reporters, Ready,
it was Barack Obama running the country along with Hillary Clinton,
but it was largely Barack Obama, just what I said.
There were others involved, clearly, but it was I'm gonna

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call in the shots absolutely. I told you, I told you,
I told you. I told you when he did not
leave Washington, DC, that he was setting up a shadow
government to undercut Trump.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
He did.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
He was very successful to a large extent. What adds
an interesting wrinkle to all of this is now the
diagnosis of Joe Biden with a very aggressive advanced form
of prostate cancer apparently into it is metastasized into the

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bone and a glease and score of nine.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Grade group five.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
We'll talk to Joe Camps about that. This is his specialty.
Joe was an oncologist and a urologist. This is his world.
We'll find out what this means and what it means
to other you know what men you ought to be
thinking about out there. But here's my question. Did they
just not even bother to check this man's physical condition?

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What were those physicals. Were they doing no routine blood
labs with I think it's called a prostate specific antigen
the PSA number? Were they doing none of this? Which
then circles back to the rubber stamping of Joe's health,
his mental health, his physical health, because doctors right now

(23:45):
are out there saying how did this get this far
without anybody knowing before now just saying it is an issue.
And I don't think the Republicans will have the curvedge
to deal with this because remember we kind of have

(24:06):
a unit party. It's like the Republicans in the Florida
House and Senate, they talk tough on immigration.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
When we got right down to it, they didn't. They don't.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
They're not doing anything because big trades line their pockets
and there's not enough outside pressure.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
We need.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
For example, we need the Florida Chamber of Commerce to
come out and say there needs to be a closing
of the loopholes on e verify in the state of
Florida for all employers. Very fair, that's what needs to happen.
But instead they did nothing because they can get away
with it. Forty seven minutes after the hour, what do

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you think we can It's wolf right, this is the
Morning Show with Preston's. All right, it's one big, beautiful bill.
I'm sure we're going to talk about this with Kat
Camick tomorrow. We just told you that the reconciliation bill

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in the House has gotten through a committee by one vote,
but they lost enough votes that its chance of passage
in the House is limited unless they make some remarkable changes.
So I did some digging and I figured out here

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these are the reasons why it's in trouble.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
First, let's start with this.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
It would raise the debt ceiling to four trillion dollars.
We just keep doing it over and over and over
and over. I'm going to continue to use this example

(26:10):
because it is the very best you can reach. And
some of you right now listening know exactly what I mean.
Because you have reached your debt limit, you cannot get
another credit card, you cannot get another loan. You can't

(26:39):
do anything until you pay debts down or increase revenue.
The perfect world is to pay down your debts and
increase your revenue. But in some form or fashion, you
get to a point where you cannot borrow anymore money.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Can't do it.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
The bank or the lending institution says to you, I'm sorry,
your asset to liability ratios are such that you can't
afford another payment. The federal government always has in its
back pocket. We can take more money.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Trump is trying to get around that through tariffs, finding
these savings. But until we get to where we have
a fair tax code, we get rid of all fraud, waste,
and abuse in federal government, which means, to some extent,

(27:41):
getting rid of some federal government. We have too much
of it. We can't afford it. Wouldn't you all love
to have someone that comes and cleans your house every
two days, but you can't. Will you love to have
someone that can afford to clean your house? If someone
you could afford to have someone paid to you pay

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to clean your house once a week, you can't afford it.
You just have to do without the pool cleaning guy
and the yard guy. You just got to do it
yourself because you can't afford to add that. Right now,
that's where we are. We can't afford certain parts of government.
Another problem is something called salt, which means state and

(28:24):
local taxes. A lot of Republicans in blue states are
worried because their states charge these absorbitant high state income taxes,
and they want deductions for state and local taxes on
tax bills. Another reason to do away with the tax code.

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Another reason why this thing is stalled, problems with Medicaid.
We've told you they've got to make changes IRA tax credits,
that's energy related tax credits. That's part of the Inflation
Reduction Act. They're continuing some of the Biden crap. So

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this is why we're dealing with issues, and I strongly
urge you be knowledgeable about this particular bill. Monday of

(29:28):
the Morning Show, it's the second hour already. Doctor Joe
Camps will not join us this hour because he's coming
in next hour for the hour we're gonna talk about.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
First of all, Joe.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Is a fascinating dude, and we're gonna just get a
good chat with Joe talk about healthcare, medicine and and
and some other stuff. We're just gonna it's gonna be
a good visit. Trust me, Trust me on these things
I mentioned at the end of the hour. You have
got to know what's going on with this reconciliation bill,

(30:05):
and you need to be making phone calls, not emails.
Phone calls, call the Congressional switchboard and pull up the
phone number for the Congressional switchboard, so you have it
in front of you, sir, if you don't mind, and

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you just tell them what office you want. I want
Congressman so and so or Congresswoman so and so, or
I want Senator so and so. And you're not going
to get to the senator of the congressman more than likely,
I mean, there's an off chance, but you're going to
get to a staffer. And you need to be phoning

(30:46):
about this reconciliation bill, and you need to tell your
lawmaker to vote against the reconciliation bill if it raises
call if it raises the debt. It's that simple. No,
what's the number for the Congressional switchboard?

Speaker 4 (31:04):
All right, for the US capital switchboard?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
It is two zero two two two four three to
one two one.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
And does that now patch us through to whatever Congressman
or senator we want? Okay, let me see check on that. Yeah,
all right, check on that.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
That's I want.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I want the Congressional switchboard, if I think that's what
it's called. But right now the CBO is estimating this
is gonna add not four five point one trillion, dollars
to the deficit between now and twenty thirty four. Now,
Trump's going to be long out of office. We can't
keep adding money. No more, no, And this is what

(31:54):
underscores the need for a Convention of States. Their needs
to be a balanced budget amendment, and we need to
demand that they begin to pay down the debt. We're
just I understand what Trump's doing. I do, but it's

(32:17):
not good enough because we're not tackling the money issue.
If he wants to make the argument all the tariffs
and more taxpayers, you know, that was Marco Rubio's argument,

(32:39):
which I thought was brilliant. We don't need more taxes,
we need more tax payers, jobs, paying taxes. Okay, but
a reasonable tax rate, not an exorbitant one. Lower taxes
brings businesses back to the country. When you raise revenues,

(33:08):
you still then have to take the approach not you
don't raise the revenues to spend more. You raise the
revenues to spend and spend less, and so you begin
to pay down the debt. How wonderful would it be
if we said we're paying a trillion dollars of debt
off this year, Well, the debts are over thirty something. Okay,

(33:31):
you start somewhere, so maybe it takes us thirty years.
You know, there's some wisdom to the idea of Okay,
you've got your budget, now cut it one percent, and
then next year you cut it one percent, and then
you cut it one percent. You continue to cut until

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you cut the debt and eliminate it.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Period.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Then the dollar strengthens and the US is in borrowing
from enemies.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Like China.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Speaking of when we come back, I promised last week
I would take a little bit of time to talk
about the idea on how they're approaching China. Got a
little more information on that. Next ten past the hour
Morning Show with Preston Scott came across a piece written

(34:40):
by Peter Maurici or Marici. He's a professor at the
School of Business, University of Maryland, authored eighteen books director
of the Office of Economics at the US International Trade Commission,
published in policy and business journals like the Harvard Business Review,

(35:04):
Foreign Policy. He's lectured at Columbia, Harvard, Oxford. Smart Guy,
and he wrote a piece how Secretary Bessen could encircle China,
And you might have I mentioned that last week. The

(35:25):
strategy here that I see Trump trying to employ is
to turn China into an island where we have agreements
with the nations that are all around China as well

(35:46):
as others around the world, and in essence create an isolation,
a forced isolation of China. And he in this piece,
Mauricey points out that Trump's talk on Canada fifty first
state and all that that kind of talk only leads

(36:11):
to likely protectionism and it reduces where US technical products,
high tech can go. You don't want that. He suggests
making sure that we have balanced trade with friendly nations
based on comparative advantages, negotiating down the tariffs, non tariff barriers,

(36:40):
realigning currency exchange rates. US should rejoin the eleven nation
trans Pacific Partnership that makes up Vietnam, Malaysia, Japan, Mexico, Canada,
encourage the UK and EU to participate, continue on the

(37:02):
path of dealing with the border. He addresses in here
the need to get rid of the trade deficits that exist.

(37:23):
Congress needs to reduce the need for foreign treasury sales
to finance even larger deficits.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
This gets back to.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
This spending bill that if you really want to impact
that through trade. You have to cut spending more than
you're cutting taxes. You get commitments from the nations that

(37:55):
that in essence encircle China.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Now, it's a.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Challenge and it takes time, and his thought is that
you do it incrementally, one year at a time.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
China.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
And this is a guy who has studied the Chinese
economic model for decades. He writes that it seeks to
dominate the global stage through brute force economics. The idea
is to limit China's ability to be dependent on itself,

(38:43):
and so you then maximize its dependence on other countries.
And that's part of the game. That's what China is
effectively doing to us, forcing us to be more dependent
on it than we are than they are on us.
And that's that is bad from a negotiating standpoint. And

(39:05):
so he's got ideas here to eliminate the imbalance on trade,
and he said, specifically, require licenses to import goods from China.
Set the value at two and a half times the
size of a US import starting in July, reduce that
ratio in one to three years, and those licenses should

(39:27):
be allocated by auction businesses like Apple that claim absolute
need to source from China won't require exemptions. The auction
process will reveal the value they place on that privilege.
Think about it. Apple says we have to buy from China. Fine,
there's so many auctions, there's so many licenses available for

(39:48):
you to buy from them. What's it worth to you
to make sure you have.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
One of them?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
It's an interesting set of concepts. I encourage you to
look him up. Peter Marissi, ICI seventeen past the Hour,
couple domestic terrorists? Is it two or is it just one?
Actions that we faced over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Okay, so we have a nihilist.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
That blows up a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, killing
himself Injuring four. We're not naming the guy. I'm not No.
He had nihilistic ideations and this was a targeted attack.

(40:47):
He was attempting to live stream it. And according to
what we know so far, and an anti pro life,
anti pro life manifesto believed to be authored by the
suspect has been located and is being examined by the FBI.

(41:12):
The embryos in the facility were being saved. This guy
believed that we overpopulation humans are a problem, as harsh
as this may sound to some of you, I think

(41:37):
that with the exception of the injuries of the four people,
he achieved his correct objective. He thinned the herd by
one himself. Okay, I think it should concern Although we

(42:03):
can't stop this kind of thing, I think it's worth noting.
I would love to know where this guy was educated.
Was he educated at a particular college or university, did
he ever even go there? Was he educated through various

(42:27):
online or social media? I mean, he was clearly into
the social media world trying to live stream his his
act of killing himself by blowing up this clinic. But
I think it's important to understand where these things, the

(42:47):
seeds of this stuff get sown from. I think parents,
you need to know, so that'll be something worth taking
a look at. There's another story that just it's nagging
at me a little bit. America's largest remaining Antebellum mansion

(43:09):
burned down. As I understand this. This is the Notaway
Plantation in white Castle, Louisiana, cornerstone of the tourism economy,

(43:30):
site of national significance, built by John Hampden hamp Den
Randolph in the late eighteen fifties, fifty thousand square feet,
dozens of rooms, contained three hundred and sixty five doors
and windows, twenty two white columns. It began a The

(43:59):
guy started with a planting cotton, then shifted to sugarcane.
He owned one hundred and fifty five slaves sixty two
hundred acres of land. By eighteen sixty it was a museum,

(44:19):
a resort, a wedding revenue, sorry wedding venue. The plantation
had thirty one acres, forty overnight rooms, bar, restaurant, events, space, pool,
tennis courts, and more. I'm not convinced that this wasn't
intentionally torched. I wrote down in the Rundown sketchy domestic terrorism.

(44:49):
I'm not convinced that this place wasn't burnt down intentionally.
Just hold on to that little nugget. I mean, would
it show any of you the largest and to many,
it is an offense that this place that was the

(45:15):
owner of it held slaves. I get it. It's part
of history. We don't erase history. It's a snapshot. It
tells a story, an important one. But we'll see, we'll see.

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Twenty seven was twenty eight minutes past. Let's do the
big stories in the press box next, and there's a.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Bunch of them. We're here to make it all better.
There you go, Yes, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yes, This is the Morning Show with Preston.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
Scott thirty six minutes past the hour, Big Stories in
the press box.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Gold prices are jumping after the US credit rating took
a hit. Moody's has dropped the US credit rating, which
makes perfect sense. There's no reason for anybody to be
upset about it. That's what happens to your credit rating

(46:30):
and my credit rating. When we are over our skis.
It takes a hit and we were downgraded. We have
been moved from AA to AA one on the moody
twenty one notch rating scale. The US outlook has gone

(46:58):
from negative to stable. That's good, so we'll see. But
gold has jumped to thirty two hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I mean it actually.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
It actually dropped after it hit thirty five hundred announced
for the first time last month. But it's it's still
very strong because of where we are with our credit.
When precious metals are up, there's not much confidence in

(47:42):
the dollar. The House Budget Committee voted last night after
ten o'clock in the evening yes Sunday night, seventeen sixteen,
to pass the Reconciliation Bill. It is loaded with problems.

(48:04):
Four members of the Republican Party did not vote on
the committee in favor of it, and that means that
this bill could be in trouble because they can only
afford three Republican defections. You've got four in the subcommittee
where it was sitting yesterday. My hunch is there will

(48:26):
be more in the overall House. Supreme Court extends the
block on the deportation of some alleged Venezuelan gang members.
The Court said you can deport them, just not under
the Alien Enemies Act. Dissenting votes were cast by Sam
Alito and Clarence Thomas, and that is largely around deportation

(48:52):
of MS.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Thirteen.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
The Supreme Court basically said, you didn't give enough notice
for there to be the appropriate appeals or challenges on
due process, et cetera. That's what the Court said. And
then Donald Trump is allegedly going to talk with Vladimir
Putin about the war with Ukraine this week. Needs to happen,

(49:21):
that needs to be settled, That will help the economic
stability of the region. But keep in mind the US
now has a stake in the Ukrainian economy. Also, keep
in mind Trump negotiating and removing sanctions on Syria that

(49:42):
plays a role with Russia. So we'll see. And then
a Mexican Navy ship. You might have seen the video
by now. I mentioned last hour that the ship looks
like it's right out of the Pirates of the Caribbean.
It looks like just this massive sailing vessel, and it
is I don't know if it had I would imagine

(50:05):
it does have actual power, but it has the giant
mass and it went right into the Brooklyn Bridge and
it's like, dude, you weren't even close. And sadly, some
people lost their lives. Two hundred people on board that ship,

(50:27):
and sailors were on the masts. They looked as though
they were like performers doing high wire stuff. And yeah,
at least one or two died, some critically injured. How

(50:47):
do you not know the height of your ship in
the water to the top of the mast. How do
you not know that? And how do you not know
the bottom of every bridge you're sailing under? How I
don't unbelievable. Forty one minutes past.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Did have told me.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
When I was in high school in the nineteen seventies
that we would be sitting here today talking about a
public school system in Virginia, Louden County interrogating, harassing, and

(51:47):
attacking three high school students who happen to be biological
males for objecting to having a biological female in the
locker room with them, and that they would be the
ones in trouble. I would have slapped you and said,

(52:08):
you are a liar to think that we are now
at a place where a public school system is attacking
male students for daring to be a little uncomfortable with
a female student showering in the locker room with them. Now,

(52:30):
this is just absurd. The school system is actually accusing
the three boys of Title nine violations. I know a
little bit about the Title nine legislation.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Many of you know.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Some of you that are new to the program may
not know. My aunt played a role in authoring Title
nine and presenting it to Congress. My aunt was an
extra dream what they called woman's libor. Back in the day,
Rush would refer to them as feminazis. And because these

(53:14):
guys videotaped to prove they are now under attack and
so the school district is investigating the boys as opposed
to dealing with biological females being in the men's in

(53:37):
the boys locker room, and the inversion has happened as well,
biological males being in the female locker room. Both are wrong.
But this is why I keep mentioning these stories because
you cannot just assume this is gonna go away. It's

(54:00):
not going away until we get the Supreme Court, sadly.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
To rule on this.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
And it's unbelievable that we have to have a court
ruling telling us what's right and wrong. This is so
fundamentally wrong, and people with gender dysphoria are to be
empathized with. They're confused, they need help, they need counseling.

(54:30):
But the fact of the matter is we're now seeing
a more robust version of gender dysphoria that does not
think it's a mental condition at all. I remember seeing
a video last week where a parent walked up and

(54:51):
just took a seat behind the desks at a school
board meeting and she announced that I'm a member of
the school board identify as one.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
The school board asked.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
The sheriff's law enforcement to escort the woman out and
she left on her own. But she said, if I can,
why can't I identify as a school board member. It's
a great question. My friend John Stenberger said years ago.
If marriage can mean anything, marriage means nothing. If being

(55:28):
categorized a male and female means nothing, it can mean anything.
Then those definitions, those scientific mean nothing. So there you go,
forty seven past the hour, come back with a study
that says there's a possibility of eight dollars gas.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
It's the Morning Show with Preston Scott.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Information being shared by the vast network of listeners about
the ship colliding with the Brooklyn Bridge, the Mexican Naval
training vessel. It is powered. It's beautiful ship. I mean,
when those sails are up, that's a beautiful ship. What

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it looks like happened. The captain allegedly was reporting a
loss of power, and the ship wasn't supposed to sail
in that direction. And so if it lost power and
the prevailing current is taking it the wrong way, you've
got yourself a problem. It was supposed to be heading

(56:46):
out to sea, but instead of sailing south, the ship
went in the wrong direction toward the Brooklyn Bridge. Two
hundred and seventy seven were on board, two killed, nineteen injured.
Some of the crew were hanging from the mass of

(57:09):
the ship. So that's what I'm just kind of reading
through here. Captain of the ship total authorities. He lost
power of the ship, forcing it the head for the
bridge abutment on the Brooklyn side. The mass height at
one hundred and fifty eight feet, the bridge one hundred

(57:30):
and thirty five In that interesting losing power, that's a
bad thing. But I will say this, despite the loss
of life here, you're better off losing power in that

(57:50):
situation than you are out at sea, because out at
sea you could be losing a lot more lives. Lose
power on your engine out in the middle of the ocean,
and you've got yourself a world of hurt coming your way.
I mentioned the eight dollars gas This is in California
that they're actually looking at studies because two refineries in

(58:14):
the state have plans to close down. Analysis was done
by a professor at Southern cal University of and said
the decrease in oil production could result in a hike
of costs in the Golden State, but also neighboring states
that get any any gas, any fuel from those refineries

(58:37):
as well, and so that this gets back to if
that doesn't happen, Californians ought to be thanking their voter
box that they got overruled by the country and put
Donald Trump back in office, because a focus on energy

(59:00):
production and allowing us to explore, refine, produce more oil
and gas is huge to offset what's coming. But it
could happen California. You would think that Californians would just

(59:22):
step back and go, huh.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Any other states.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Dealing with the fear of eight dollars a gallon gas?
I mean eight dollars a gallon is one hundred bucks
to fill up a twelve thirteen gallon tank, and some
are fifteen, eighteen, twenty gallons, some are more. I just

(59:47):
I wonder, at what point do people that live in
these states with these onerous regulations and high taxes, at
what point do they step back and go, you know this,
it seems like we're being charged too much.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I don't know, I don't know what it'll take. All right,
when we.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Come back, it's going to be a fun final hour
of the program. Doctor Joe Camps has been a contributor
on this show since the first year. He started with
me doing segments at the latter part of the first year,
and now twenty three years later he's on next. So

(01:00:39):
much fun doing this Monday, May nineteenth, Good morning, friends, Welcome.
It's kind of weird to think we are halfway past
the midway part of the month of May and before
you know it. You know what that means. We're buying
Christmas presents and we're putting up Christmas trees. You know
it's coming up soon. Welcome to the Monday edition of
The Morning Show showth three two and joining me this

(01:01:03):
morning in studio, doctor Joe Camps.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Unbelievable. How are you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
I'm doing great press. How are you today?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I'm doing wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
You and I Every now and then we'll see each
other in town and you'll be at the football games
of the basketball games. But this is the first time
in twenty three years of you and I doing our
Monday segments that were face to face doing this.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
Unbelievable. I've talked to you from many places, some in
the operating room just going into surgery or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
But glad you made that clarification.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Are not doing surgery, of course, you know, I try
to stay focussed when I was working in of course.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Yeah, I want to give everybody just a little bit
of a snapshot of Joe Camps. I've mentioned it from
time to time over the years. You were the first
captain of a Bobby Bowden coach football team at Florida State.
Tell us how you came to FSU.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Well, I was being recruited. I fortunately, I guess I
was a five A athlete, which was, you know, really
exciting for me. And I made All State and Bill
Canyon coach Kanty, who was the quarterback coach, came to
my high school and he said, we'd like to recruit
you to Florida State under Larry Jones, and so I

(01:02:25):
decided to come here. And it's been unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Had you ever visited Tallahassee before that?

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Not really?

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
So when you say school, where were you going to school?

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
I was in Gainesville and I was thinking about going
to University of Florida. Okay, yes, and they didn't offer me.
They said we'll take you on the second day. And
so when I had schools like Miami and Florida State
recruiting me, I said, I'm not going to wait around.
I'm going to take a scholarship, and boy, probably the
best decision of my life.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
What was it like playing for Coach Bowden early on
when he was really at the beginning of transforming And
I think it would be fair to say, not just
the football program, Bobby Bowden transformed Florida State.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
University unbelievable and I'll never forget. I got called into
his office one day and he was sitting there and
I was face to face with him, and he says, Joe,
are you walking the line? And I paused, and I mean,
I didn't know how to answer that because I wasn't
sure where he was coming from. I says, Coach, I'm
doing all I know and trying my very best. But

(01:03:33):
he says, are you walking the line?

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
And I said, yes, sir. It was unbelievable, great man.
Got to know him well, actually provided his health services.
I'll never forget when he was diagnosed, he says. Now, Joe,
I don't want anybody to know about this, he says,

(01:03:55):
because everybody will say Bobby Bowden is dying and they'll
recruit against me and I'll lose a lot of players.
I says, okay, Coach, I won't say anything, and one morning,
I think it was a Good Morning America show back
in the day. This lady comes on and she says,
Coach Balden has been diagnosed with prostate camps And I

(01:04:17):
went what I had kept it secret for months and years,
and all of a sudden he exposed it. And I'll
never forget that day because I got about five job
offers around the country just on that diagnosis of the
coach and loved him to death. Wonderful person, and just

(01:04:41):
had a great career here in Tallahassee.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
What got you to the School of Medicine.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Well, when I was growing up, I said, I always
wanted to become a physician. It was part of my dream,
part of my goals, and I pursued it, and boy
it was. It's been great preston to be able to
help people and to be able to make some reasonable contributions,

(01:05:10):
not only here in Tallahassee, but around North Florida. And
had an opportunity to train out in Texas at the
University of Texas Mdanas and Cancer Center. It was a
great opportunity, a great learning experience. We had sixty beds
on the urology service. It tells you you know you

(01:05:33):
won't have sixty beds on one ward in most hospitals,
but we had sixty beds with with eurology patients and
it was a great experience. And I just feel like
the Lord has just directed my path, yeah, the whole way,
because I couldn't script at Preston. I promise you I
couldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Doctor Joe Camps with me this hour. It's ten pass
take a quick check of weather and traffic here on
the morning show Temple u FLA. After Doctor Joe Camps,

(01:06:15):
you mentioned urology, being an oncologist, urologist. There are so
many fields of medicine. You mentioned wanting to be a physician,
and in my mind I hear physician. I think of
a family doctor. You see him to diagnose whatever is
going on, and he becomes the doctor for your whole family.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
He or she. What led you to urology, you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Know, it's an interesting question. I went down to Miami
with one of my friends who was in mesk who
his dad was a cardiologist, and he introduced me to
his uncle who was a urologist. And I'll never forget.
Just out of the blue, he says, son, he says,

(01:07:02):
in your line of work. You want to become a eurologist,
and then he began to talk about it, and the
more I began to think about it, I thought, what
an interesting career because you get to practice medicine. A
lot of eurological issues are medically treated, but also you
had the opportunity to become a surgeon as well, and

(01:07:23):
there's something called endoscopy where you use lots of scopes,
and urology is one of the fields where using instrumentation
really was ahead of a lot of different specialties in medicine.
And I thought, boy, I have a chance to practice
medicine sort at a primary care level, but yet move

(01:07:44):
up the scale to become a surgeon. And it gave
me the best of both worlds in medicine, so I
was able to practice medicine, if you will, and then
I had a chance to develop my skills to be
able to operate on people. Most eurological procedures you have
good outcomes and people get better right away. So it

(01:08:06):
was very gratifying for me, particularly those that had let's say,
for instance, a kidney stone sure which can be very
very painful, I mean extremely painful. So I've heard and
one hour later the patient's smiling and going, thank you, doc,
I feel great. So the rewards were great, and some
of them were immediate. I think of things like testicular torsion,

(01:08:28):
you're twisting of the testicle, you have a young kid,
and one hour later they're laughing and smiling. So the
returns on your work were very gratifying, and in some instances,
obviously there were more significant things, such as, sure, what
the president's being diagnosed with the former president Joe Biden.

(01:08:49):
Prostate cancer, Probably not that uncommon in an eighty plus
year old.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
But maybe finding it seemingly as late as they found
it allegedly we don't know, of course, but it seems
in a very aggressive form.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
Yes, well, that's part of the mystery of prostate cancer.
He had a nodule. So fifty percent of those that
have a nodule, a large percentage of those will have
prostate cancer. But sometimes it can be benign and not
really an issue. And then some say, well, there's PSA
prostate specific anergen, which is a blood test that everybody

(01:09:26):
talks about. But some tumors are low secrets of PSA.
You might have a normal PSA but a very aggressive
form of prostate cancer, so you have to think it
through and work it up, which is what they did
and found out he probably has a low secreting PSA

(01:09:47):
on a very aggressive prostate cancer. And so a large
percentage of mails after the age of seventy will develop
prostate cancer. And sometimes it's readily apparent and sometimes it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
And I guess the big takeaway, which is something you
and I have talked about frequently over the twenty three years,
is for men to not ignore those routine checks exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
And in this case it was found on a nodule.
A large percentage of prostate cancels are diagnosed by PSA
the blood test, but that could be misleading as well.
So you need a complete evaluation, not only laboratory findings
and physical findings, but some of the detection methods that
we now have available to us today. You know, all

(01:10:37):
of the scanning, the radiologic diagnosis, obviously talking about a
PET scan which gives you another detection mechanism. So it
can be a complicated set of issues that you have
to work through. So patient needs authority evaluation.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Doctor Joe Camps with me more to come here on
the Morning Show with since come with me in studio
is the host of our Healthy Expectations segment Doctor Joe

(01:11:18):
Camp's talk about the great double entendre right. Yes, the
expectations we ought to have them. Tell me in your field,
if you were to consider where you were in understanding
the different forms of cancers and the treatments of them
when you first started to where we are now, how
would you quantify if you could, the developments and improvements.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
It's been a quantum leap. You know. Traditionally there was
radiation therapy, sometimes there was radical surgery. Sometimes there was
hormonal therapy. Certain tumors respond to the hormones, and if
you block the hormones, you'll get regression. But I think

(01:12:03):
imminotherapy is going to be the real breakthrough for cancer treatment,
and that is activation of your t cells, your own
body activating cells that will attack the tumors. Part of
the problem with cancer treatments is that it's toxic to
the body, and sometimes you just kill other things like

(01:12:28):
suppression of the bone mare, and so what happens if
you suppress your bone mare you potentially could get some
type of an infection that actually takes you out. The
cancer itself didn't do it, but it's it's an infection
of some sort of pneumonia, those kinds of things or
sepsis that can happen, and so it's toxicity from the

(01:12:54):
treatment itself.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
And so when you say immunotherapy, do you expect that
type of treatment to come within your field of oncology
and urology or is it a separate field under itself
that will work in parallel or as a companion to.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
It's going to be a companion too, because activation of
your bone mare to fight against a foreign invader limits
the toxicity which you get from some treatments. And I
say toxicity meaning that some things actually can suppress your
bone mare. So if your bone mare isn't functioning, then

(01:13:31):
you have a whole myriad of problems that develop, such
as becoming anemic, developing Pneumonia's all sorts of medical issues
that the cancer itself didn't take you out, but the
treatment did because it suppressed the bone mare. So these
therapies can be quite complicated, and you know, you don't

(01:13:55):
want to deal with the host, the host meaning you,
the body and its response. Sometimes you just don't know
how that's going to happen. Uh, And so the cancer
itself didn't kill you, but the treatment did because it
suppresses your bone mare, you become anemic, you get pneumonias,
those types of things which ultimately UH can can be

(01:14:16):
the source of one demise.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Are you still consulting, are you still reading the trades?
How how involved are you? Because there's a part of
me that thinks, as much as it's good to kind
of say, I've had my career, especially in the field
where you are doing surgeries and operations, and you're you
say that there's great reward, but there's still very weighty
matters that you're you know, consulting with patients about. Are

(01:14:40):
you staying actively in it?

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Yes, I currently work part time at the hospital and
Organization Improvement UH and and also our work and review
physician work activity. And you know, no one's perfect, and
so I'm able to count so sometimes the physicians on
decisions that were made and launch programs to improve the

(01:15:07):
delivery of the healthcare. So I'm up every day. This
morning I was up at five, met my walking crew.
We walked our usual four and a half miles, a
boy and got a shower, jumped in and I'm here
at the show.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
You say, you walk four and a half miles At
any point, does that turn into a jog?

Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
I used to jog for about twenty five years. I
know you did, and I really enjoyed. And one of
my highlights was I actually got the jog with one
of our governors who met us at the club and
we had a chance to jog and really had some

(01:15:54):
fine mornings. A lot gets done at five o'clock in
the morning in Preston tell me about it and get
a chance to discuss issues, talk about issues with family,
talk about life issues. We talk about football, basketball, baseball,

(01:16:16):
and then other subjects depending on what turns up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Doctor Joe Camp's with me more time with doctor Camps next,
tell me when was the last time you had this
much time with a doctor?

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Right right exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
That's what we're doing here this morning on the Morning
Show with Preston Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Morning Show with Preston Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Play a lot of the time at.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
The time on news Radio one point seven double USLA.
Time flies when you're having a great conversation, said doctor
Joe Camps. With me in studio for another two segments here.
We talked last week about prescription prices. Yes, and the
President told a hilarious story about the fat shot and

(01:17:09):
how a guy goes to the UK and gets it
for eighty eight bucks and he's paying twelve hundred in
New York for the same exact shot.

Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
Absolutely, the pharmaceutical industry has been under scrutiny.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Is it fair?

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
I think it's fair, Okay, I think we need to
take a look at that because I've looked at certain
drug costs and pharmaceutical cost it's insane. I mean you
can't afford it. I mean you lose your life savings
trying to purchase medication.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
It's like, what's the point of the medicine if you
can't afford.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
To take it? Yes, you probably shouldn't even advertise it.
To be honest with you, I knew long ago when
I first read about some of the newer drugs that
they were phenomenal. And we're finding out like ozimpic and
we'll go be the things we're talking about, they're finding
that they could have benefits in the treatment of Alzheimer's.

(01:18:08):
I mean, you name it. This is a breakthrough. And
I remember we talked about this drug and I said,
press and I think this is going to be a
real breakthrough and now it's it seems to be the
drug of choice to deal with obesity, which still I
think is probably one of the number one health issues
in our country. You're quite honest with you, and create

(01:18:32):
some myriad of problems that could be avoided. You think
of orthopedic cases from you know, pain on the wear
and tear on the joints, and you just you know,
obesity again needs to be attacked. And I think, I
think this this drug has been phenomenal in that sense.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Do you think that that the pharmaceutical companies are to
oversimplifying it's the United States paying for the r and D,
the research and development portion of of these things.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
A lot of them. Yes, I mean some of that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
So these high prices domestically, it's because they kind of
view the Americans can afford it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
Yes, I absolutely do. Mean, how can you spend literally
one eighth in a foreign country for medication here you
pay you know, seven eight times the real cost of
the of the drug. And then what you get is
we'll talk to the pharmacy benefit managers. Well, it's not

(01:19:33):
them that totally decide the pricing. It's that it's a business.
I mean, you can you can make a lot of
money on pharmaceuticals and people know that, especially if in
this case you've got a drug that deals with weight
and a lot of people desire to lose weight for

(01:19:53):
various reasons, and they're willing to spend whatever it takes.
And so I think this will always continue to be
a challenge. And I think around the world we're perceived
as having the greatest resources, and of course Americans can
pay more, and that's just something I think we're going

(01:20:15):
to have to wait and see get some parody around
the world on this issue.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Do you feel like the government has to involve itself
in this?

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Probably because when you look at spending, you're looking at
Medicare and then Medicaid. The commercial products are available and
they spend lots of money as well, But the number
one source of revenue for the pharmaceutical industry is the government.

(01:20:44):
It's Medicare and medicate Make no mistake about it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
It's not lost on me that what maybe half of
the commercials on any sports day are going to be
commercials dealing with medications.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
Absolutely, and so they're trying the message the products that
they have, and let's face it, this is a business too,
and and one that's very lucrative and there are a
lot of players in this marketplace, so I think we're
going to continue to see challenges across the board.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Here, doctor Joe camps with me for one more segment.
We've saved the best for last.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Trust me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
It's the Morning Show, The Preston Show with Morning Scott.
What Doctor Joe camps with me one more segment, Joe,

(01:21:46):
You and I talked about this in the break and
how I believe that the medical community broadly speaking, obviously exceptions,
I paint with a broad brush and you understand that. Yes,
I believe the medical profession really damaged itself during COVID
greatly the stance of vaccine only and not allowing room

(01:22:12):
for dissenting views and thoughts which were proven to be
accurate dissenting views and thoughts. But it gets back to
trust ultimately, as a doctor, you have to have the
trust of the people you're speaking to.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Oh. Absolutely, How does.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
The medical community broadly regain trust loss during COVID?

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
Well, I think we should listen to our patients and
look at the twos that we have to work with medications, surgery,
those types of things, and you know, make the best
decisions in our minds that we think is the right

(01:22:54):
thing for the patients. And quite frankly, I remember the
the COVID situation and it was devastating. I have never
seen more refrigerated trucks carrying bodies out at the hospital
than during that time, both hospitals, and I think it

(01:23:17):
had a tremendous effect on the medical community because we
were dealing with something that I'm not sure we really
anybody really knew what needed to be done in the moment.
You can always go back and review your data, become

(01:23:38):
analytical with it. But the doctors that I worked with,
I think we're trying the very best using the twos
that we had.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Do you think there was some bullying going on though?
For example, I feel like a lot of the medical community.
I actually had emails from doctors that said, I'm being
threatened with my job if I don't do this, and
that had never been happened.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
That never happened. No, it never happened, And I think
that I think there was a lot of fear. I'll
never forget. We had to go into some of the
rooms and we had HASMA suits and I mean we
were covered as if there was some big plague in.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
The movie Outbreak.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
Yeah, and I think I think it was a moment
in time where, quite frankly, a lot of us didn't
know exactly what to do. And you know, when we
take our oath to become physicians, the first thing we
say is first, do no harm. And I think that

(01:24:42):
a lot of people truly were paralyzed by this. They
weren't sure exactly what to do.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
But yet, but yet the medical community was ordering, you
will do this when you're right. I think you're exactly right.
I think a lot of doctors were like, hold on
here now, but we're being ordered to a protocol that
science ironically showed this guy who was a college dropout

(01:25:10):
that you can't vaccinate against the coronavirus. There's never been
one developed to stop it. And yet that's what we
were told.

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
Yes, And I think when you think of viruses, we
know the one thing that happens is things mutate, and
so you're not really sure no matter what you're doing.
I promise you you're not one hundred percent sure. And if
you think about that and then our decision making doctors
deal with that all the time every day, patient the patient.

(01:25:39):
Do I really believe this, yes, but I'm not sure
and so sometimes you just it's not a finite process.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Do you think lessons were learned?

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Oh? Absolutely, And in some cases I think we overreacted
and sometimes I'm sure there were bad decisions. Yeah, I'm
sure there were times there were good decisions, but boy,
that was a challenging time for us.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
I commented to you in the break that I think
it would be useful if broadly we had leaders of
hospitals and doctors associations and so forth come out and say,
you know, we made some mistakes and we were wrong
about this, this and this.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
But I've not heard that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
No, you haven't. And I think that that's one of
the things that positions sometimes struggle with. And I promise
you it weighs on your mind pressure. It's a tough
that's a tough position sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
But that's why I'm not one.

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
But it's very rewarding. But there are challenges in this
bures that and we do it on a day to
day basis, case by case sometimes and we're not one
hundred percent sure. And if there's a position out there
there's one hundred percent sure, then I want to meet
that person because that's the challenging part of what we do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Well. That's why it's called practicing medicine.

Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
Yes, I agree with that. It is practicing because we
don't always Yeah, we don't always have the Sometimes the
decisions that are made are toxic to the body. We
talked about that, and sometimes the best decision probably is
to do nothing sometimes if you're not sure, or seek advice.

(01:27:28):
But we deal with those day to day issues every
single day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
I appreciate you making time and coming down here.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
Thank you for having to do this again.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Sometimes, yeah, we'll do it. Sometimes we'll take some questions.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Somedays, Oh, I don't know, open up some questions to
some of the guys out there asking about it. We
can to ever do this colonoscopy without getting that stuff
that we got to take.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
No, I'm afraid that's with you, and it's called go lightly,
so you will go.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Good to see you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Thank you very much for having me doctor Joe Camps
with me on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. What

(01:28:17):
a fun, good visit with Joe good Man. Good heart
loves people. That's what made him good at his profession
for so many years. I hope you enjoyed that visit.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
In the program, Kat Camick will join US congresswoman from
Florida's third congressional district, see what she has to say
about this reconciliation package and what a train wreck it is. Sorry,
that's my opinion. We'll have a manly minute and much
much more. Keep in mind, keep dropping off those box
fans at your Ace Hardware store out in the Panama

(01:28:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Brought to you by Barono Heating and Air. It's the
morning show on on WFLA. Boy, we had a ton
in the press box.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Moody's has downgraded the US credit rating as well it
should Gold continues to be above three grand. Announce the
House Budget Reconciliation Bill. It passed seventeen sixteen the committee,
the House Budget Committee, which I think leaves it in
great jeopardy of not passing. It's going to have to

(01:29:45):
have some major overhaul to me for it to be acceptable.
I'm just I'm done with the reconciliation. Get us a budget,
Get us a budget, Pass a budget. Why do we
keep doing this? We keep adding to the debt. It's
like we have just taken the biggest stupid pill ever,

(01:30:09):
and then we're choking on it and wondering what's wrong?
Why can't we eachew any food and swallow. You've got
a big stupid pill in your throat. We wonder why,
why isn't Why aren't we getting it? Because we keep
spending more than we take in?

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
How hard is this?

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
Supreme Court says no to President Trump on the Alien
Enemies Act. He said, you can deport under other things,
but you can't. You can't apply that to this. So
that's on hold. With MS thirteen and some of the
other gangs. Trend day Aragua. Remember when I used to
say Aragua presdent, It's it's our Agua.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
So it is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Trump and Putin gonna have a chat. Mexican Navy ship
crashes into the Brooklyn Bridge. Apparently lost power. Little domestic
terrorism going on across the country. Talked a little bit
about China, China or Chiner Chiner.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Cannot wait, I can't wait, I can't even wait for tomorrow, but.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
I'm gonna have to twenty one whole hours. Friends, have
yourself an awesome day, get yourself.

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