Ep. 5435: D.O.G.E. strikes again.

This is the full episode of The Morning Show with Preston Scott for Wednesday, August 20th.

Our guests today include:
- Chad Gray





Follow the show on Twitter @TMSPrestonScott. Check out Preston’s latest blog by going to wflafm.com/preston. 
Listen live to Preston from 6 – 9 a.m. ET and 5 – 8 a.m. CT!
WFLA Tallahassee Live stream: https://ihr.fm/3huZWYe
WFLA Panama City Live stream: https://ihr.fm/34oufeR Follow WFLA Tallahassee on Twitter @WFLAFM and WFLA Panama City @wflapanamacity and like us on Facebook at @wflafm and @WFLAPanamaCity.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:22):
All right, friends, welcome, stay on the Morning Show with
Preston Scott. I'm Preston. He is Jose. Later in the
program a brand new feature called No Way Jose. We
could start it right now, but we're gonna wait. We're
gonna wait until later in the program. But as always,

(00:46):
we like to start the show with a little scripture. Now,
yesterday we were in one Peter five and we got
to verse six and seven. Humble yourself therefore into the
mighty hand of God, so that at the proper time
he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him,
because he cares for you. Now we pick up at

(01:09):
verse eight. Be sober minded, be watchful your adversary. The
devil prowls around like a roaring lion seeking someone to devour.

(01:29):
Let's let's look at that in a literal sense and
not just the spiritual sense. Be sober minded, be watchful.
You know, in our personal defense segments with JD and Charlie,

(01:51):
what is the two word phrase we discuss over and
over and over and over. Its situational awareness. This scripture
is about your personal defense only it's really focused on

(02:12):
well you can apply it to your literal, physical, personal
defense because spiritual decisions. Personal decisions do have an impact
in the tangible world. You need to make certain that
as you're considering your situational awareness from a spiritual perspective,

(02:41):
that's making sure that you remain This is an expression
I use with my children all the time, and all
of our children are grown, I use this all the time.
Remain in a place, in a posture before God, where
he can bless you, where he can protect you, where
you are under his covering. When you make mistakes, they happen,

(03:06):
we make them get right with God immediately. If not,
you then become someone that Satan can pick off and
torment you. There will be testing, and there will be trials,

(03:29):
and there will be difficult circumstances that we all face
because we are in a world that has fallen. We're
swimming in a stream that we're going upstream and the
current's going the other way. That's just life. But what
this scripture is saying is you make sure you are
buttoned down and that you're watchful and that you're aware

(03:53):
of those circumstances around you that can cause you to stumble,
trip up, mess up, and then open your self up
to attacks from satan because he's looking for the opportunity.
Think of it. Scripture says that he prowls around like

(04:13):
a lion, looking for someone who do lions pick on
When you watch all those documentaries, lions pick on the injured,
i e. Someone that's not covered and protected and strong,
right the young, the weak. It's a wonderful picture. And

(04:40):
so the challenge today that again I'm really prayerfully hoping
that you take these segments and use them with your
children before you send them out the door, and you
talk to them about a verse like this and the
importance of keeping your guard up. Don't one bad choice
is all it takes. I've got a documentary that's coming

(05:04):
onto my blog page tomorrow that will illustrate that point.
One bad decision. It was forged in a series of
bad decisions over years, but that one bad decision lost
the life of children and caused one man to go
to prison for years because he made one bad choice.

(05:28):
Ten past the hour, It's the Morning Show with Preston Scott.
My interview with Kirk Cameron, actor, author, the founder of
the movement See You at the Library, which spread to

(05:51):
more than two hundred libraries this past weekend two hundred
including the Library of the White House invited Kirk Cameron
to to kind of anchor the thing from the Library
of Congress, and then it's he's been going to libraries

(06:15):
across the country. When he first started this two three
years ago, they were turning him down. Nope, they wouldn't
have it. Now they're inviting him. It's an opportunity. Great
conversation with Kirk yesterday after the show, and then in
the third hour we've got Chad Gray from Joint Strong,
where we're going to try to help those of you

(06:36):
have kids in athletics and those of you that are
athletically inclined avoid some surgery that might well that is
usually unnecessary. A lot of surgeries being done that aren't needed.
There's a time and a place, but if you follow
the arc of this show, we you know, with doctor
David Harts, we take time because we address symptoms, we

(07:01):
don't deal with causation. And there are too many people
jumping off going and having surgery when it's not necessary.
And so we're going to talk about those topics with
Chad Gray in the third hour. Today is the twentieth
of August seventeen, seventy six, Adams Franklin Jefferson recommend the

(07:21):
motto e pluribus unim to Congress. What a threesome. I've
got them in my bibble collection over here, Adams Jefferson, Franklin,
Come on, I just to be in the room with
those guys would be astounding. Eighteen thirty three. Benjamin Harrison,

(07:48):
twenty third US President, born in North Bend, Ohio. Nineteen eleven,
The New York Times sends the first around the world
telegram via commercial service. Takes about sixteen minutes to circle
the globe. Nineteen twenty the first commercial radio station broadcast
regular scheduled programs eight mk is what it was called.

(08:13):
It was later WWJ began operations in Debtois. Nineteen seventy one.
Texas Instruments introduced to the first electric electronic pocket calculator. Boy,
do you remember when calculators beak Texas instruments calculators became

(08:33):
a thing in school. It felt like cheating, and then
teachers begrudgingly said, get a calculator. Really, yes, oh man,
I remember those days of Texas instruments. Nineteen seventy seven,

(08:54):
NASA launches Voyager two, the first spacecraft to travel to
Uranus and Neptune, So there you go. Today is National
Bacon Lover's Day. Bacon is wonderful. I don't like it
on pizza, but I get that people do. To me.
It overpowers a pizza. But you just it's so hard

(09:18):
to go wrong with bacon. I still remember someone made
us a batch of cinnamon rolls with bacon. They're incredible, decadent,
beyond description. But bacon. Yeah, I feel like whenever I
talk about bacon, because I put it on a sandwich,

(09:40):
you could put it on so many things. Obviously, it's
a breakfast staple. It's like that commercial for the dog treat.
The dog's going bake your bacon back, you back your
back break, And that's me love bacon. Today is National
Chocolate Pecan Pie Day. I don't know that I've ever

(10:02):
had a chocolate pecan pie. Chocolate goes with anything, pecans
go with just about anything. I get it, they probably
would go together, but there's it almost sounds like you've
committed blasphemy by having it. Just I mean, a pecan pie.
You don't boom right there, just full stop. But I've

(10:24):
never had a chocolate pecan pie. So I could you know,
it could be a thing in today's national radio day.
You're welcome, and I would just simply say thank you Rush,
because talk radio exists today because of Rush Limbaugh. Rush

(10:46):
is credited even by guys on the left as saving am,
the AM band and talk radio. Way to go, buddy,
May you be resting in peace and enjoy before our
Lord seventy past the hour, come back with it? Did
you know? And a did you know? You're probably noticing

(11:18):
an absence of whining because we called in the big
dogs yesterday after monking around with this air conditioning system.
We called in the right people, called him a boy,
Ray Jones of John D. Jones a c heating and refrigeration,

(11:40):
and within within minutes fixed. So we came in this
morning to a nice, cool, crisp air conditioned set of studios.
So thank you John D. Jones. By the way, one

(12:01):
of my clients, it's like, duh yeah, so Ray came
to the rescue. Thank you Ray. This is so I
say that because it's once again the best job in
the world. It wasn't when I was sweating. It just wasn't.

(12:27):
Did you know. I'll be back in a jiffy you've
heard that statement actually refers to a time measurement that exists.
Jose's laughing. What are you laughing at? Oh? I just
love that. There's a time measurement called jiffy. In computer animation,

(12:48):
a jiffy represents one one hundredth of a second. In electronics,
it's a period of an alternating current power cycle, either
one sixtieth or one fiftieth of a second. There's your jiffy.
I'll tell you what. It doesn't apply to peanut butter, now,
does it? Jiff I mean, it's just no chance you're

(13:17):
not eating peanut butter fast, not a chance less. It's
in a cookie, peanut butter cookie with a Hershey's kiss
on the top. Gone, gone, all right, here's the other. Oh,
did you know? Did you know that our version of
a bullet train is coming to Amtrak? Amtrak is going

(13:40):
to roll out twenty eight larger, faster, high speed trains
through twenty twenty seven, upgraded amenities, increased capacity, maximum speeds
of one hundred and sixty miles an hour, utilizing a
new Tilts system which provides a smoother, quieter ride. It

(14:03):
is called the next Gen Asella. Maximum speed to one
fifty right now. First class menu dishes designed by James
Beard Award winning restaurant tour Stephen Starr. I looked it up.
I don't know what the rates are going to be,

(14:25):
but you do know that Amtrak train travel is not
cost effective and there's a reason why the federal government
subsidizes it. The only parts of the Amtrak rail system
that last time I did a check that were profitable

(14:48):
up in the Northeast where people are traveling between cities
that are close together on Amtrak, but they're going to
be highlighting their Washington, d C. To Boston run on
this new train. You know what it costs one way
between four hundred and fifty and seven hundred and fifty bucks.

(15:12):
I can't imagine what a trip across the country would run.
I tried to look it up before the show, and
I actually got a little distracted trying to figure it
out because it was they don't make it easy, but
because train travels fun. I used to travel by training
between Minneapolis and Chicago with my parents from time to

(15:32):
time when I was a child, and I mean, how
it's cool, it just is I'm just not sure about
I mean, how secure are those train tracks. Now I'm
just I'm looking at it pragmatically from a terrorist standpoint,
and I mean, I don't know, but it's a thing

(15:57):
if you're interested. It launches August twenty eighth, twenty seven
minutes after the hour Come Back, Very unusual, Big stories
in the press Box. Next on The Morning Show with
Preston Scott, Welcome morning, everybody. Welcome to Wednesday, August twentieth,

(16:24):
show fifty four to thirty five of The Morning Show.
Ose in his poncho. This one his homemade poncho. Got
a blanket that was a kind of one of those
black blankets that has some snaps on it that you
wrap up and it snaps up and gets real small,

(16:44):
and he decided it would make a great poncho, so
he cut a hole in the middle of it, and
he left the snaps because he thought they were cool.
This is true, yep. So he's I guess that would
be a nice way of saying that his poncho is snappy.
I told you the big stories in the press box

(17:05):
this morning were different. Tampa Bay Buccaneers football team. Maybe
there are other stadiums rolling this out, but they are
rolling out something called Express Entry. They are using facial
authentication software by Wicket, And if you are eighteen and

(17:31):
older and a season ticket holder, you may sign up
for facial recognition, which allows you to skip lines without
scanning tickets, tapping a phone. You just you go and
your guest can go with you, even if they're not registered.

(17:53):
They don't have to go through the facial as long
as they're with you and the tickets assigned to you,
ware recognizes you, and then the person with you is
your other ticket holder done. Here's my question. Would you
use it? Would you you have to have your hat

(18:14):
off and your glasses off sunglasses to use the technology.
They say that the authentication software, it protects and crypts
and stores your data in a safe location. It doesn't
share or sell your data any third party. Would you
use it? Would you do that to avoid the lines

(18:36):
and so forth? I'm just I think it's interesting. That's
where we are. And then there's this study called the
Friendship Tab commissioned by ally Bank found that forty four
percent we'll go deeper into this next hour, forty four

(18:58):
percent of gen z and malay Nils have skipped major
social events because of cost. Almost a quarter of the
respondents say they felt anxious about lifestyle financial differences with
their friends. Twenty two percent said they have anxiety when

(19:18):
they're uncertain about being able to afford activities with friends.
Thirty two percent of gen Z and millennials say they
go to a bar or restaurant with friends at least weekly.
Fifty two percent of these groups of young people reported
having one to three friends they get together with often.
Most common activities restaurant or bar seventy two percent of

(19:39):
the time time outside. Fifty six percent are responding with
that attending a birthday celebration amount of to about fifty percent.
You know, that kind of gets into how many friends
can you have? And are they friends or are they acquaintances?

(20:00):
That would that's actually a very interesting topic, friends versus acquaintance.
I think friends is a very overused term now. I
will say it here frequently more than friends, understanding that

(20:30):
it's kind of a one way relate. You know me
really well. You know Jose a little bit. You'll get
to know him better, especially after day today. I know
you sort of as a group of I kind of
know what you might be interested in and kind of

(20:54):
where your thoughts are. Although there are certainly exceptions to that,
but I think that aside from a medium like this
right where it's personal, it is very personal. We're spending
time together every day. I mean some of us. We
spend as much time together as you spend with about
anybody other than maybe a spouse in your kids. But

(21:16):
I would say that as a rule we use friend
way too generously. You don't have time for too many friends.
You just don't have time. So I think acquaintances, and
then I think friends. Is this group of like it's
kind of alluded to three four Maybe do you have

(21:39):
time for that? Anyway? Interesting study there about millennials and
gen zers and kind of like the realization things cost money,
but it brings anxiety and stress. Forty one past the
Hour The Morning Show with Preston's got you remember where

(22:21):
the Colin Kaepernick story started? And I know it's Kaepernick.
I'm just being a jerk. Nearly it's been nearly a decade.
It's been nearly a decade protesting racial injustice. Took a

(22:42):
knee before the national anthem before a Pre Says preseason
game in twenty sixteen, and he's not played in football since.
It is so important to remember and there's a reason

(23:03):
why I'm bringing this up. The NFL should have stopped
it in its tracks and had every authority to do so.
There was no First Amendment right in the workplace. There
just isn't. And I've said this so many times. Some

(23:25):
of you know where I'm what I'm going to be
about to say. Don't believe me. Try insulting your boss
and let me know how that works out for you.
I have a right to my opinion. No, you really don't.
You will be fired. See this is the misnowheer about
the First Amendment. You can say anything, but what you're

(23:51):
not protected from is the consequences of your speech. Someone
could be foolish enough to yell fire in a movie theater.
You can say it, but you'll be arrested. You will.

(24:11):
The NFL did a huge disservice to not just the NFL,
but to all of America by not dealing with this.
But Roger Goodell did not have the courage. Colin Kaepernick
left his football team of his own accord. He walked

(24:34):
out on his contract. Needless to say, teams had interviewed
him over the next couple of years were a little leary.
Am I getting a football player who had remarkable talent,
Or am I getting an activist? I want a football player.
I don't want an activist. Well, now we fast forward
a docu series. A documentary featuring Colin Kaepernick was being

(24:58):
directed by Spike Lee working with ESPN. Thank goodness, the
project has been shelved. They've been working on it for
a few years and they've pulled the plug. It's not
gonna happen, even though they've made a bunch of it
creative differences. Spike Lee has an NDA. Can't say anything more.

(25:23):
He just said, yep, that's the deal. Don't know if
it's Colin Kaepernick's creative differences, if it's Spike Lee versus ESPN,
I don't know. But I love it because it's a
bunch of I liberals fighting. I love it. And we
will not be subjected to seeing any of this, and
that's just fine. Forty six minutes after the hour, some

(25:45):
the Good Side of Sports coming up next. Let's booy

(26:10):
our spirits a little bit, huh. Lead research assistant of
the program pointed this story out to me. You know,
early in his career. I I'm not proud of saying this.
I poked a little fun at Lamar Jackson, quarterback for

(26:32):
the Baltimore Ravens, was a quarterback at Louisville, brilliant football player.
I just wanted him to have time with somebody who
could help him be better with public speaking. When you're
the quarterback of a football team in college or professional sports,
you are you are the de facto spokesperson for that team.

(26:57):
You're the spokesman. And that poor kid just came off
sounding so uneducated. But as he's gone through his career
in the NFL, where he's won I think two MVPs.
I mean, he's a brilliant football player. I have grown

(27:17):
to just respect him. He loves Jesus, and he is
getting roasted by the knuckleheads on the left, of course,

(27:42):
because he retweeted a post by Charlie Kirk on x
Charlie Kirk of Turning Point USA. Charlie Kirk loves Jesus,
knows God's word really well. Be careful if you debate him,
not just about politics and world affairs and conservatism, be

(28:04):
careful if you debate him on Jesus and scripture and
God's word. He spent a minute in scriptures. You know
what I'm saying. Here's all all. Lamar Jackson retweeted, It's
all about Jesus. That's it. That's it. But because it

(28:25):
came from Charlie Kirk, he is getting fried. The good
news is he just doesn't care. He has routinely put
his faith in God, his relationship with Christ first, in

(28:45):
front of everybody and anything. And when he signed a
new contract with the Ravens, people were saying really bad
things about him. When he was negotiating the deal, he said,
it's not about what people say. It's about believing in

(29:07):
yourself at the end of the day, keeping God first,
because without him there is no Lamar Jackson. I'm going
to tell you that now, and so consistently throughout his
career he's just it's all about Jesus. I love it.
Second story that connects to it, indirectly related to Spike

(29:31):
Lee is Spike Lee's doing a tour with Denzel Washington
on a new movie Highest to Lowest. The number two
is used there Highest to Lowest, and he was asked
if he cared about being canceled because Denzel and he
had one line in there that absolutely you've got to hear.

(29:51):
I've never heard this said, and I thought it was brilliant,
he said. He said he doesn't really care about being
canceled because he said, I don't sign up for it.
I don't care, doesn't matter. I don't do it for oscars.
I really don't care about that kind of stuff. I've
been at this a long time. There's times when I won,
I shouldn't have won, shouldn't have won and won. Listen,

(30:15):
Man gives the award, God gives the reward. Okay, okay,
see this is now here's this is why. Denzel's top
three actors of all time. For me, I love Denzel
Washington in movies. Love It started with the movie Glory.

(30:42):
Just brilliant, brilliant actor, Crimson Tide, brilliant equalizer, brilliant equalizer,
two brilliant. You get the idea, Na, He's just a
wonderful actor and loves Jesus. Kirk Cameron next back with

(31:09):
me on the program this morning. I'm really excited to
have this follow up visit with actor author Kirk Cameron
and Kirk, good to have you back on the program
this morning. How are you, sir?

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I'm doing great this morning. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
My pleasure. I want to go back to because I
remember when you first rolled out this See You at
the Library, and it was kind of in response to
what you were facing across the country. So take us
back a little bit before we talk about where things
are right now. How and why did See You at
the Library get started?

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well, I wrote a children's book a couple of Christmases ago,
about faith, hope and love, and I wanted to read
it in some public libraries to children as part of
a public story hour. And this was during the time
when drag queens were reading I hope we had books
to little kids in very leftist liberal areas. And I

(32:07):
was denied by over fifty woke libraries that had previously
held drag queen story hours for children on what rounds,
what controversial content could my book possibly be about? And
it was literally about compassion, about togetherness, about hope, about
love and fake and God. And they said that, you know,
they were inclusive and so they needed to exclude me.

(32:30):
They wanted a diverse message, and so they said, you
know your yours doesn't fit the mold and so on. Well,
I went on the news and told Tucker Carlson and
others at Fox and put them on blast. They changed
their mind. They gave us a link to an in
to sign up for a story hour. They gave us
the back room in the place. But when we showed up,

(32:52):
we had over three thousand parents and grandparents who wanted
to be a part of children learning values that lead
to their blessing and their protection. And so that spiraled
into just a groundswell movement of grandparents and parents adopting
their own story hours at libraries across the country and

(33:14):
a national day called See You at the Library. So
it's kind of like see you at the poll, only
we sing, pray, and read books at public libraries. And
the tides have turned in two or three years. Three
years ago we were being locked out of libraries. This
year we were invited by the Trump administration and the
Department of Education to the largest library in the world,
the Library of Congress. That happened this weekend with over

(33:38):
four hundred libraries participating across the country at the same time, singing, praying,
thanking God, singing patriotic songs, and reading stories of virtue
and character to children. And I think this marks a
shift in our culture and our values, and I'm hoping
that these are the realm of a revival in our

(34:01):
country of the things that made America great in the
first place.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
And Kirk cannot overstate the importance of planting these kinds
of ideals, virtues, timeless wisdom from God's word in the
hearts and minds and spirits of children.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Oh yes, it's so important. I've been around long enough,
I have a fifty five year old guy now with
a grandchild to know how the media works, and to
know how cultures get built and things don't get turned
around and fixed long term by electing one guy in
the White House. And yet there are those who can

(34:40):
provide air cover like Trump is doing now, so that
the family of faith and those of good American family
values can advance what is true and what is good
and beautiful. We couldn't do this stuff last year, I mean,
the administration would never have let me in. And now
we have opportunities to do more to protect the unborn,

(35:03):
to secure our country, to help families, to advance the
values of faith that are indispensable for a free republic
like ours. And now's the window of opportunity for us
to do the most that we can. And if we don't,
if we don't stand for our values and live for
them with all the fire of our faith and the

(35:26):
courage of our will. I believe in our lifetime will
we will experience either a great awakening or a root awakening.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Joining me on the program is author and actor Kirk Cameron.
You know him, you know his face. I talked about
the last time he was with us on the show.
He has not aged. I don't know how he dodged that,
but it's like he picked up where Dick Clark left
off and not aging anyway. Kirk will be with us
another segment. Stay with us here on the Morning Show
with Preston Scott. We are back with Kirk Cameron. Kirk

(36:15):
with us a few more minutes. Kirk, you you were
talking about the future and what it may or may
not hold for us. I'm curious, do you think that
what's happening right now is as a result of the
pendulum swinging so far, so absurdly demonic, satanically off the hinge,

(36:35):
that it's just pivoting back, or do you sense that
there's something deeper that's going on right now with a
younger generation that's starting to I guess, rekindle the faith
that's buried inside of.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Them short answer. Time will tell. And I believe that
we have been given an opportunity, a window of mercy
from God. After all that has taken place over the
last forty years, thirty years, twenty years, ten years. This
is perhaps our red Sea moment. I mean, we're we

(37:11):
were backed up against the sea with the uh, you know,
the purple hair platoon coming down on us with a vengeance.
And if we if we don't honor God now when
we have this opportunity to do so much, I mean,
we just the doors, the seed just parted, and we

(37:32):
now get a chance, as the family of faith, in
my opinion, to begin ushering in a time of opportunity
and liberty and freedom and blessing and protection for our
children by doing the things that we have the freedom
to do. But if we're so lazy minded, if we're
so apathetic, and we say we'll just sort of, you know,
we'll let the big guy with the orange with the

(37:52):
orange face up at the top do all the things
that we need and get the handouts from the government
and all that kind of stuff, that's nonsense. I mean,
that's what the Israelites did when they wanted a king
to do all the stuff for them rather than be
responsible locally with their family and trust God to protect them.
We've got to be the boots on the ground army

(38:14):
of compassion that's doing the things to build the culture
we want for our children, or others will build a
different kind of culture for our children, and they're happy
to do it. So what I hope is that the
courage that we see from parents and grandparents that see
you at the library to take back education to their kids.
The courage that we see with a political leader who is,

(38:37):
in my opinion, probably not a born again spirit filled Christian,
meeting with world leaders and taking economic risk and political
risk to leverage the value that we have as a
country and do amazing things that nobody else's seemed to
be able to do for so long. If we can
learn from that and leverage our own value as the

(38:59):
family of faith and the dollars that we have and
the time that we have, and the hearts and minds
of the children that we have created, and we can say,
wait a minute, you don't just get all of this
stuff for free. You have to invest in the future
of the world for them, at least here in America,
or we're not spending our money on your products. We're
not voting for your people. And you're not going to

(39:20):
educate our kids. We're going to homeschool them. We're going
to create our own schools. We're going to have the
church be the leader in all of this. We're not
going to be the ghetto minority that's like powering in
the corner. We're going to create the culture. And that's
what I see people beginning to do. Stop begging for
a seat at the table with the Pagans. Build your

(39:43):
own table, and then others will begin to pull up
a chair because our table is better. That's what happened
when we did see you at the library and the
Trump administration said could we be a part of it?
And we said yes please. We loved it.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yet over two hundred story hours across the country on
Saturday this past Saturday, Kirk, I imagine your goal would be
to see those story hours happen all the time throughout
the year. What would you advise people listening Because the
overwhelming majority of people listening to you right now think
like you do, So what would you advise people to

(40:21):
do to organize and get these kinds of things done.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
I would say, get together, find a band of brothers
and sisters, get together regularly and discuss these things. What
could we do, what's on your heart? What is the
Lord placed in your mind in terms of a burden
for you to address a problem, to solve what is
it that is just in your bones? And find a

(40:49):
way together to do something locally, could be just in
your family, could be in your community. And as you
begin to solve one problem, it will give you the
confidence and the courage and the experience and the wisdom
to begin to scale that and do more and more.
And as we do this together, not as lone soldiers,
not as celebrities or star politicians who are looking to

(41:14):
get a claim for themselves. Let's do this together as
the family of faith, will inspire one another, and we're
millions and millions and millions strong. We can turn things
around if we really want it, as much as the
radical Pagans want it.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
He is actor, author, activist for the Lord Jesus Christ
Kirk Cameron Kirk, thanks so much for making time for us.
I appreciate it and godspeed, brother.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Thank you so much, And if you don't mind, I
want to just honor the guys over Brave Books who
put on see you at the library and continue to
do these story hours and write books for parents. And
if you'd like to support that movement, people can go
to bravebooks dot com.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Perfect great way to end the segment, Kirk, Thanks again
very much. Kirk Cameron with us this morning on the
Morning Show with Preston Scott. You know, I saw a

(42:22):
story this morning that the American Association of Pediatrics whatever
they call themselves, is breaking from the CDC in saying
no children should have the COVID vaccine. I'm not a doctor.

(42:48):
I was just more correct than they were during COVID.
You decide what that means, and that is a fact.
It is an indisputable, provable, demonstrable fact. Most doctors that
were publicly speaking, that were practicing medicine were wrong during COVID.

(43:13):
They're wrong, but you do you. I'm just telling you.
The CDC under new leadership, is saying, why would we
advise a vaccine that hasn't been tested and which has

(43:33):
demonstrated adverse effects on not just people but children and
likely skilled people. I share that because I think it
offers some context to this next story. How many people,

(43:55):
I mean, whether it's mass fomation, delusion, whatever. How many
people were impacted by COVID nineteen. How many people are
still wearing masks? How many people were injured during COVID nineteen,
not just physically and mentally emotionally scarred because of what happened.

(44:22):
You know those online counseling services where you can just
go online and you can kind of telehealth mental health,
tele a mental health, and you can get a psychologist
allegedly a licensed psychologist, psychiatrist, a counselor online that you know,
you can FaceTime with or whatever. You pay them their
fee and they'll sit across the screen from you and

(44:44):
listen and offer their thoughts. And you know, if you're
getting Christian counseling, and there aren't all that many great
Christian counselors. There's some, but there aren't many. I'm not
a big fan of secular counseling because that's the missing
ingredient is Jesus. It's just without that component, I don't

(45:06):
believe you can properly heal. But that's a topic for
another day. I say all of that to say this.
Here's the headline, Kamala Harris's stepdaughter struggling to process her
climate anxiety. Ella m Hoff took to TikTok to express

(45:30):
her deep anxiety about climate change last week. Six minute
video of herself expressing her disgust and fear about the
state of the environment right now. Stated feelings about climate
anxiety like everyone, I feel discussed at what's going on
in the world, Like everyone, genocide, the loss of lives,

(45:53):
the loss of health care, just general fear that has
everyone surrounding affordability, their lives, their livelihood, like everything. It's
just it feels so big. I think everything with the
environment is really bleeping getting to me. It is one.
I experience a lot of climate anxiety, like a lot
of us do. It's not funny. No, it isn't funny.

(46:13):
It's very sad. I personally think she is likely projecting
the anxiety of having Kamala Harris as her stepmother onto
her climate woes. That would rattle me. I'd be like, Dad,

(46:40):
what did you do?

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Why did you marry her?

Speaker 1 (46:45):
That would bring anxiety up to me. But to put
a bow on this, this is how leftists, democrats, liberals,
mainstream media have scarred the minds of right now two
generations with climate fright thankfully, not a bunch in these generations.

(47:16):
I would say, based on polling that climate change is
so low on the radar of most people in these
gener what whatever. They want to know how they're going
to buy a house, you know, they they want to
know if college was worth it. They want to I
mean climate change, climate change. It's like practice, practice climate change.

(47:39):
But for the handful scarred by the media by disinformation
by one side of the story, not allowing them to
recognize there's a whole other argument on this whole alleged
settled science on climate change that would allow them to

(48:01):
then look and decide for themselves. Wait, wait, wait, wait,
this isn't what it's being purported to be, and it's
not twenty minutes after them. Isn't it amazing what one
little story can do.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
You're listening on an old radio in your car, truck,
or streaming on one of those other things, yes, even
that John Deere tractor.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
It's the Morning Show with Preston Scott on News Radio
one hundred point seven double UFLA or on NewsRadio double UFLA,
panamacity dot com.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
You've got a kid playing sports, or if you are
active aches, pains, injuries are going to happen, but a
lott of injuries that people immediately think surgery are not
requiring a surgical intervention. Chad Great, co founder of joint Strong,

(49:09):
will join me next hour. We will talk about that.
We are into the active season. It's here. Kids are
back in school playing sports. You yourself are probably gonna
get a little more active as the weather begins to
turn and moderate a little bit, and so some help
is on the way. You know what we're all about that,

(49:30):
we're all about going to causes, not treating symptoms. Frequently,
an injury is a symptom of something else, and so
we're gonna address all of that. Next hour, we're kind
of an exhaustive visit with Chad, have him in studio

(49:50):
with us. I'm sure they'll come a time and we'll
take some calls down the road. We'll have him in
and do that, But today we're going to just cover
some top We are less than twenty minutes away from
No Way Jose brand new feature here on the program.
It will largely speak for itself. I'm just saying you

(50:12):
would think that I'm a professional broadcaster. We were just
talking about the impact that COVID that climate change has
had on millennials and gen zers. And I'm painting with
a broad brush. I get there are absolutely exceptions, and

(50:33):
largely the exceptions are found listening to shows like mine,
or engaging with parents like you. Grandparents like you. They're
willing to engage and they look you in the eye
and all. There are absolutely exceptions. But as a rule,
we've had a couple of generations that have been just
raised poorly. And so when you see a study here

(50:58):
which we talked about in part last hour, young adults
say friendship is getting too expensive. That's the bottom line
of it. Friendship is getting too expensive. You know what
that screams to me. It screams to me a need
to redefine what friendship means to young people because it's

(51:22):
too often surrounding money, spending money. I had, I had
a We've got listeners all over the country. I've got
a regular listener in Cranberry Township, Pennsylvania. Terry has been
listening for years. He's got other people up in Pennsylvania
that listened to the show that he said, you got

(51:43):
to check this out, and they listen. This is great.
He said, a very very close friend used to say
this all the time. A friend is someone you can
call at three am and their first response is where
do you need me to be for you right now?

(52:05):
Where do you need me to be for you right now?
How many friends do you have that'll pick up that
phone and say what do you need now? Jose's talking,

(52:31):
He's already taking his socks off. He's counting not just
his hands but his feet. Good for him, I would say,
it's not possible. You cannot have that many close friends.
You can't be invested in that many people and have
a true friend relationship with twenty people or even ten people.
I would submit five is really pushing it, and I'll

(52:54):
bet if you really think about it, that's about the
right number is less than five true friends. But this
study just speaks to the misalignment, if you will, of
values in a couple of generations right now, and we're

(53:15):
fighting for him, We've got to contend for them. Forty
one minutes after the hour, one of the big stories
in the press box today.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
It's Themad Radio Network, where we challenge you to make
a difference in your world.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
The Morning Show. Preston Scott, I don't know if you've
seen the wall that's going up, the border wall in

(53:52):
the southern border. They're digging it deep and they're painting
it black, raging hot to grab hold of. But obviously
that's solved by nighttime and it's solved by gloves. But
it's it's just another layer of deterrent. I'm all down
with that. Hey, the other big story in the press box,
I'm just going to touch on it very quickly. Express

(54:16):
Entry at Tampa Bay Tampa Stadium, whatever it's called it is.
Do they still call it? Raymond James, I don't know
what they call it anymore. Where the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
play in Tampa, they are using Express Entry. It is
facial recognition. You can sign up for it if you

(54:36):
choose to. You skip the lines, you skip scanning, you
skip all the stuff that can go wrong, and it
just you have your face mapped out one time by
the software and you go in. If you have a
guest with you, as long as they have your other
season ticket or your other ticket boom, you both just
breeze on in. Would you do it? Is the qu

(55:00):
question I've asked, would you do that? Would you? Would
you for the sake of skipping lines submit to facial
recognition software in the hands of a third party. I'm
just you know, some will say, well, it's already out
there probably, I'm just I mean, this is now you

(55:22):
making the decision to knowing Lee enter into that. Would
you do it? I don't know. I'm just I'm asking
eighteen or older. I think it's interesting. DOGE has not
gone away. So far, one hundred and twenty three contracts
valued it over five billion dollars have been canceled, total

(55:46):
savings of two hundred billion, which comes to thirteen hundred
dollars per year and me each taxpayers saved thirteen hundred
dollars at this point. If that money were returned to
you and me, I mean, imagine a household getting twenty
five hundred bucks back twenty six hundred dollars eight hundred

(56:08):
and fifty seven thousand dollars contract from the Department of
the Interior for a technical advisor in Nigeria, seven hundred
and eighty five thousand dollars State Department consulting contract for
staffing was canceled. One point five million dollar Treasury Department
contract for word processing and document formatting services. The money

(56:34):
we waste five point four million awards at contract and
in FY twenty four fiscal year twenty four, ninety eight
point one two percent were spent to the ceiling. See
one of the things people are saying, well, they're value,
they're just giving the value of the total contract, even

(56:57):
though all the money has not been spent. Those hits
back with ninety eight percent of all of these contracts
have been spent to the hilt. All the money has
been used, So spare me. Here's here's the point. Over
the past five days, they've canceled five point three billion

(57:21):
dollars of contracts in just five days. So the total
is two hundred billions so far. And we're scratching the surface,
just saying forty six minutes after the hour when we
come back show with Preston Scott.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
On News Radio one hundred point seven, doubufla.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
And of course for the big moment, my computer froze.
Don't you say a word. We're going to save this.
We're going to save this segment by doing it right
the first time. And so we q in three two

(58:39):
la compadres as well as it can.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
You see here in my finest homemade bunchol and I
wear it because it helps me with my Mexican Juda.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
You are a Jedi, buddy.

Speaker 6 (58:59):
Well, I got a I got a wild story here
for everybody. A woman was arrested after holding a family
at gunpoint in Wakula County. Now it gets crazier than that.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Crazier than Wakula, Wacula.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Sorry, it's the accident.

Speaker 6 (59:17):
So the Wacula County Sheriff's office arrested a seventy one.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Year No idea, how long we spent talking Wacola over
the last thirty days?

Speaker 7 (59:28):
Go ahead, Yeah, So they arrested a seventy one year
old woman named Helen Lynchfield at her home on multiple
counties of kidnapping, aggravated assault, and burglary.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
How old? Seventy one? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
She lured a father and his two daughters, both under
the age of thirteen, to her house, held them at gunpoint.
Oh no, because I guess she thought that the daughters
weren't his daughters, there were somebody else's. So she held
my gun point, took them hostage, and then I guess
stole stuff out of their car. But her roommate distracted

(01:00:08):
her and the family was able to get away.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
They were they were able to escape unharmed. To that,
I say, no way, Jose, yeah yeah, wait yeah wait
it happened. True story here here in FLD.

Speaker 8 (01:00:26):
You have another story, uh yeah, but real quick, there
was a woman she was arrested in Bali over allegedly
smuggling cocaine and adult toys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
And because what do you mean by adult toys? We
won't get into that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
But and because of that, she's facing the death penalty.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
What yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah wait yeah, so
don't don't do that. And where did this happen? This?
I believe she was traveling. I guess she's a Indonesian.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
No, no, Peruvian, She's Peruvian and she was traveling to Indonesia,
the island of Bali.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Yeah, so don't do that, boy, Thanks to keep in
mind if you travel right, that's right, that's right. Oh
my stars.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
And in case if everybody's wondering what's Mexican, Judo is
gonna you don't know if I have a knife, you
don't know if I have a gun, and you know
the PUNCHO will.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Help with that. A new Wednesday feature here on the
Morning Show with Preston Scott. We call it no Way Jose.
By the way, credit where credits do? This suggestion came
from my daughter in law, absolutely brilliant. I was talking

(01:01:52):
to family about I gotta get Jose engaged a little more.
I keep trying to get him to have his mic
open and and she just said, you need to do
a segment called no Way Jose, and I the room
just stopped. I looked at her. I said, oh, now

(01:02:15):
that dog a hunt that will work. And it wasn't
but one day later that we decided we're going to
do it. And so here it is Wednesdays on the
Morning Show with Preston Scott. Our three is next Welcome Friends,

(01:02:48):
it is the third hour. It is. It always just
feels like where did the time go? And yet here
we are already, And it showed five four hundred and
thirty five of the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Great
to be with you, Jose. Over there in Studio one A.
I'm here in Studio one B, and I am joined
by a friend. I have known Chad Gray for a

(01:03:12):
lot of years. I got referred to Chad. I want
to kind of lay this out years ago when I
was doing some training at Titus Sports Academy Adam Farrow,
one of the co founders of Titus. I said, I
was having an issue, and he said, I want you
to see this guy. And he said, I want you

(01:03:33):
to see Chad Gray. I said, tell me more, and
he proceeded to share about Chad and his philosophy of
treating injuries all manner of injuries that a lot of
people immediately jump and go straight to the surgical option.
And so I went to see Chad and that problem.

(01:03:55):
What was that maybe fifteen eighteen years ago, about sixteen
years ago, I think, and about sixty Well, thanks very much.
It was a memberable moment for you. Tell yeah and
forget it. And I have not had that issue treated
again since because he taught me how to deal with
the problem myself once he diagnosed and was able to

(01:04:18):
determine what was going on in my body. I have
since referred maybe a dozen or so people with significant
injuries to Chad and his practice. His practitioners and the
reviews have been the same people that have been facing
ACL and MCL surgeries that were treated improperly at the beginning,

(01:04:41):
avoided surgery, people with back issues, shoulder issues, elbow issues.
You even helped one of our guests on this program
that's a former ice agent in Arizona. Correct, and this,
I guess what I think would be useful would be
to explain, Chad, where did this philosophy begin for you?

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
What was the motivating factor to address this type of practice? Differently?

Speaker 9 (01:05:06):
You just when you look at the data regarding you know,
the incidents and prevalence of orthopedic or muscular skeletal.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Conditions in this country.

Speaker 9 (01:05:18):
When you look at that data on the health plan
side of things, when you put that data on the
athletic side of things. You look at the MLB, you
look at the NFL, you look at all the major
sports leagues. We've seen a dramatic escalation in the frequency
or the incidents and prevalents of these conditions.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Across the last thirty to forty years.

Speaker 9 (01:05:38):
And all of that escalation, all that increasing frequency, despite
the fact that we've had access to the best technologies,
you know, MRIs and ultra sounds and.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
YouTube YouTube, Yeah, Google, just google it. You can figure
it out, right, gock it.

Speaker 9 (01:05:55):
Yeah, We've we've thrown everything at the kitchen sink, right,
and we've done nothing to slow down the frequency.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Of this situation of this particular.

Speaker 9 (01:06:05):
Medical condition and it as I took an interest in
this and got curious about it along with my partner
Mark Miller. We we didn't we didn't have our own philosophy.
What we did was we dove into the medical science.
We dove into the data, the peer review publications that

(01:06:26):
are out there that spoke to how frequently we were
misdiagnosing things, how frequently we were mismatching the treatment to
the patient's actual condition, how we weren't really determining root
cause and source of the episode or source of the symptom.
And we took that information in that data front that
was published in all of these well respected journals, and

(01:06:49):
we started de siling it down, and we started plugging
it into clinical practice and application, and we started making
that a standard practice of ours. And we then took
that and embedded it and started monitoring the data within
that ecosystem and reacting to that data and information and
constantly adjusting our clinical protocols and trying to get better

(01:07:11):
and better and better and more and more precise at
figuring out what the root cause and source was and
what the actual solution was for the condition. And in
those episodes that we could manage with conservative care of
self care, we move those people quickly into that model.
In the cases that looked like they were clearly structural
and needed a surgical console, we quickly moved them into surgery.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
But the whole model came down to this.

Speaker 9 (01:07:35):
It came down to understanding how to triage a case,
how to make a really precise and reliable decision about
what was going on here. Is it truly structural? Is
it chemical? Is it mechanical? Does it need movement?

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Does it need a shot? Does it need a surgery?

Speaker 9 (01:07:47):
And making that really precise decision allowed us to stratify
or group people into the right bucket of care and
get really good at getting them better faster than the
traditional system was capable of do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Chad Gray, co founder Joint Strong Death is the website
you can go to to learn more. We're gonna be
talking this hour about how this is manifesting itself and
things that might be useful to you. And oh, by
the way, your kids, your your students that are into athletics,
stay with us on the Morning Show with Preston Scott.

(01:08:25):
Back with Chad Gray from joinstrom dot com. That's the website,
and because it's that time of year where people are
a little more active, they're gonna get more active, and
kids are back in school, kids are back playing sports.
Maybe you've got a collegiate athlete, maybe you've got just
someone that really loves to participate in activities. Chad, You're
you're covering though a scope and range of ages that

(01:08:48):
literally is as big as the population. Yeah, we work.

Speaker 9 (01:08:53):
With you know, as I say, oftentimes the eight to
the eighty year old or beyond that even you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
So we see all them graphics we see. We see.

Speaker 9 (01:09:03):
Athletes from every level as well. We see you know,
the middle school the high schoolers that are in the
local sports programs. We see collegiate athletes, we see professional athletes,
we see olympians on a regular basis. We see these
types of athletes coming through our practices and through our
facilities and embedding in our ecosystem and trying to access
the kind of information and data we've we've talked about

(01:09:25):
on our last visit and the information we'll talk about today.
So we're seeing every demographic you can imagine with musculo
skeletal conditions or orthopedic conditions.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
What's happening to the body. Generally, we're painting with a
paint brush here. That's pretty big. What's happening to the
body and why?

Speaker 9 (01:09:40):
Yeah, And in the broadest context, what we you know,
We've here's how we figured this out. We've taken one
point five million plus patient encounters worth of data. We
created a very rigorous mechanism for gathering information and data
from the clinical side of the isle, and we said,
all right, let's run that information and data across all
these encounters through the machine, and let's look at the

(01:10:03):
patterns that are showing up in the clinic. What are
the common manifestations or common presentations we see with orthopedic
conditions coming in. And there's a commonality of an intimate
link between pain and stiffness or loss of movement. There
is a consistency that's there. People don't show up into
the clinic hurting without having a loss of movement. It

(01:10:26):
is almost universal. So we know there's an intimate connection
between those two things. That stiffness, that loss of movement,
that loss of range emotion in the joint system, as
we have seen it in the clinical data, is a
clear byproduct of a failure to move in natural ways
or assume natural positions in the human body, go to

(01:10:48):
or achieve what we call end range movement of the
joint system. When joints aren't moved through their full motion
consistently and often, they begin to stiffen and lose.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
That motion and mobility, and then they begin to can hurt.
Can you break down and take like one joint that
we have in our body and describe what end range
means in that joint? Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:11:08):
So the simple analogy I use oftentimes in the clinic
when I'm engaging with someone is take your finger and
bend it all the way back as far as it
will go right, and you'll reach a point where you
feel strained to the point of almost pain.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Okay, that is in range.

Speaker 9 (01:11:25):
Okay, Now, how often does your finger ever go that far?
Well it doesn't. Well how often does your knee or
your hip, or your lower back, or your neck or
your shoulder move to those extremes of movement that are
available to that joint system, Well, it doesn't. We don't
have We have a lifestyle where we inherently live in
what I'll call mid range. We are working through a

(01:11:46):
partial amount of our movement, but never accessing or using
the end points of moving in that joint system. And
let's face it, in the last fifty to seventy five years,
that's gotten remarkably worse, because what are we all doing
now that we weren't doing then? We're all sitting in
a chair behind a screen, in front of a phone,
in front of a tablet, in front of a computer.
And if you tally up the total number of hours

(01:12:09):
spent per day with no movement really happening except some
of that mid range stuff when you're moving between office, home, etc.
We're spending twenty two plus hours a day not moving
the joints at all, and we're rarely ever achieving in
range movement.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
I was just gonna say, it stands to reason then
that most of those movements throughout the day aren't even
nearing the end range for any of those joint systems.

Speaker 9 (01:12:33):
Not even close. And that's how we begin to slowly
stiffen and lose motion. And that's where the confusion about
what's actually going on starts to creep into the medical system.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
We aren't trained to look for these things in medicine.

Speaker 9 (01:12:48):
Most physicians, most pts, most cairos don't study the joint
systems to that degree or to that extent and assess
an examine thoroughly do they have range movement available in
that joint system, because if they don't, that's generally the
primary reason we see people hurting. It's not any more
complicated than that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Really, it isn't more to talk about with Chad Gray,
co founder of joint Strong the website jointstrong dot com.
Sixteen past the.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Hour here for most of the rest of the hour.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Chad Gray with jointstrong dot com. Chad, when you use
words like lost motion pain, immediately people in our audience,
I know my audience, a lot of them are thinking, well,
that's called arthritis, and what are you gonna do?

Speaker 9 (01:13:43):
Yeah, so super common diagnosis. Of course, everybody gets it
if you show up and you're over the age of
forty and you start having an ache or a pain
in some general joint system. What we now know about
arthritis is this, As I mentioned in the last segment,
there's consistently, every time we examine people who come into

(01:14:06):
the clinics with pain in a joint system, there is
a loss of movement there. When you look at anybody
who has an arthritis diagnosis, there's always a loss of
movement in that joint associated with their pain. So the
stiffness and the pain and the loss of movement are
endomly connected. Again, the picture has been the primary way
we've examined and diagnosed the condition. We take an X ray,

(01:14:28):
we take an MRI, we take a CT scan sometimes
and we look at that joint and we go, oh,
we see there's some thinning of the carlage, and there's
some wear and tear, and there's some narrowing of the
space between. But those changes on picture are not what
caused pain. It's the gradual shortening or stiffening and fibrosing.
It's almost a scarring down process that occurs to the

(01:14:50):
ligaments that support that joint. The ligaments allow the joint
to move through its full range of motion. Our quality
of movement, our ability to get to enrange, my ability
to bend that fingerback like I talked about in the
last segment and get to that endpoint is directly dictated
by how much flexibility is in those ligament of structures,
and ligaments when left still for too long or when
not moved to their endpoints, will gradually scar in in

(01:15:12):
fibros that really is the hallmark characteristic of arthritis.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Is that also why we see as people and I've
talked about it on the show, you and I've discussed
it privately. Is that why you see as people age,
many of them, not all, they start to hunch over more,
and then more and then more.

Speaker 9 (01:15:30):
That's another one of those joint systems that commonly goes
only in one direction. Let's talk about the spine for
a second here. It spends its life in what we
call flexion or forward bending. We bend forward three to
five thousand times a day. I think I mentioned that
last time I was here a few months back. And
we never go in the opposite direction. We never go
in the opposite extreme of movement. So as I, as

(01:15:53):
I age, and I spend more and more time bending forward,
but less and less time straightening or bending all the
way back as far as I can go, you're going
to see a gradual loss of mobility. And that's why
if you look across a population of seventy plus year olds,
you're going to see a large segment of that population
with that stooped forward, bent slouched posture.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
So let's tie that together to what we were talking
about with the arthritis diagnosis, that's the standard diagnosis out there.
What are the connecting points to this?

Speaker 9 (01:16:25):
The connecting points to this are relatively simple. Again, if
I can teach people how to use range movement of
the joint systems, we can stop the common manifestations that
we see with arthritic change in the joint systems. The
stiffening that occurs is preventable, the range of motion loss

(01:16:47):
is preventable, or it's restorable. We can remodel and bring
back that movement once it's been lost. If we can
teach people how to use aggressive enrange movement protocols, we
can keep people out of the system completely if we
teach them how to access and use movement they aren't
commonly using in their day, and by doing that, we
stop and avoid those those common aches and pains that

(01:17:10):
come and that send us kind of into healthcare. All
forms of arthritis or just some, it's it's the osteo
arthritic diagnosis typically that we're talking about here. You know,
your rheumatoid arthritic processes are a completely different type of
condition and require a different type of treatment, But your osteoarthritis,
your most common one, is most of the changes that occur.

(01:17:32):
They are completely preventable and avoidable if we just teach
people early and often in life how to access and
approach those in range movements and the key joint systems.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
We've got about a minute left here in this segment.
You've got a bunch of people that are probably between
our age give or take a few years, and I
think younger than me. What about those that have a
progression already in place?

Speaker 9 (01:17:57):
So that progression once again is created by the gradual
stiffening and shortening of those ligaments they start to scar
in and fibrose. The beautiful thing about the human body
is if I take tissue and I apply stress to it,
it changes. If I apply stress to bone, it gets
more dense, it gets stronger. iFly applash stress to muscle,
it hypertrophies, it gets bigger. If I apply stress to

(01:18:19):
ligaments that are stiff and short, they will remodel themselves
and become normal again. But I have to apply the
stresses to them to make that process happen. That remodeling
of ligament, that remodeling of tissue that's begun to shorten,
is a normal physiological process that happens in all humans.
If you just ask the tissue to do it. That's
the key ingredient here. You have to teach people how

(01:18:40):
to access in range movement and engage those structures that
have shortened and stiffened and reshape them and remodel.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Them, and you have to encourage them to tolerate that
process for a season.

Speaker 9 (01:18:50):
You can't be afraid of the pain, and you don't
suffer miserably afterwards. It's just while you're doing the action,
it's going to hurt a little bit, but that pain
is going to abate quickly. And what you're going to
notice is, over the course of a few days, a
few weeks of doing that, all of a sudden, magically
things start to move better and hurt less.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
It's like a little WD forty on a rusty joint.
That's a hinge on a door. It squeaks and pulls
a little bit, but eventually loosens right up. Little grease
helps everything. Yeah, we got more to come with Chad
Gray from jointstrong dot com. He offers a state of

(01:19:28):
the Nation every single day. This is the Morning Show
with Preston Scott thirty six minutes past. Two more segments
here with Chad Gray Chad, I want to segue into
the sports world, and this is a world that you
have had quite a bit of direct impact in some

(01:19:50):
pretty high level arenas.

Speaker 9 (01:19:52):
Yeah, like I said earlier, we work with athletes at
just about every level, consistently with our local high school
athletes of course in middle school athletes. But we have
a platform now on the other side of town where
we consistently engage with professional athletes and olympians as well,
trying to take those individuals once again and teaching the

(01:20:15):
basic concepts of joint health and joint care.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
How do you take care of.

Speaker 9 (01:20:20):
The joint systems so that they'll serve you well in
your sport and in your career. How do we prevent
you from having the common injuries that occur in athletics, Because,
as I mentioned earlier, despite the fact that we've got
access to all this technology and all these wonderful resources,
when you reach that level of athleticism, when you're when

(01:20:40):
you're in that professional and Olympic sphere, you've got access
to every resource you need. Every great surgeon, every great
massage therapists, physical therapists, chiropractor, every every resource you need
on the planet is there at your fingertips because you've
got the money to access it. But despite the fact
they've had all that access, we've seen a continued spike
or escalation in the injury rates in those professional leagues

(01:21:02):
year every year. That is not slowing down or changing
at all. And so we've started a different approach of
all right, let's try to work on preventative models. Let's
take what we've learned in the clinic and embed that
and build that into the training and performance models for
athletes so that we're optimizing their capabilities to excel in
their support.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
You're seeing now kids with injuries, ailments, concerns that are
not common twenty five, thirty years ago. Yeah, thirty years ago.

Speaker 9 (01:21:37):
When we first started in clinical practice here, it was
an outlier event to see a sixteen or a seventeen
year old come in with severe low back pain.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Or neck pain.

Speaker 9 (01:21:49):
And now all of a sudden, it's twenty or thirty
or more percent of our day is spent screening and
examining these kids with stiff, painful backs, weakness in the
limbs as a result of the spinal problem. And it's
clearly a byproduct of how much time these kids are

(01:22:12):
now spending and seated positions and postures in school, in
front of gaming systems, in front of cell phones all
day long on social media. You know, the consistent pattern
of movement, of poor posture, of positioning themselves in a
sedentary way, and then intermingle that with the action on

(01:22:33):
the field and in training and in practices has created
an epidemic of back pain, for instance, in this country
and that demographic in that group, and all of it's
preventable and avoidable. If you teach these athletes how to
apply the right protocols to prevent those common injuries, it
creates a better athlete. It creates a more injury resistant athlete.
It creates an athlete that can access power and force

(01:22:55):
more efficiently when you protect the joint systems first.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
When we come back, we're gonna I want to pick
up there with maybe one final segment here of advice
to parents that have kids in athletics, because you're seeing
things that inform I think ought to inform parental decision making.
Glad at that all right, We got more to come
with Chad Gray Jointstrong dot Com here on the Morning

(01:23:21):
Show with Preston Scott The Morning Show, Preston Scott Chad

(01:23:49):
Gray with me. Jointstrong dot com is the website where
you can learn more and follow up on some of
the things. And we're we talked about in the break
this is shotgun time. We'll go. We'll go with slugs
the next time we visit and get a little more
specific on some items. What would you say to parents,
because it is the time of year, the kids are
back in school, kids are back playing sports, whether it's

(01:24:10):
recreational sports or competitive sports. Some more serious than others,
but sports or sports, they put stresses on joints in
the body. What would you say to moms and dads
out there.

Speaker 9 (01:24:19):
Yeah, we have to rethink how we are training and
skilling up and preparing our kids to enter athletics. You know,
the high schools and middle schools just don't have access
to a lot of resources, so you need to kind
of take control and oversee and kind of manage some

(01:24:39):
of what's happening to your kids. As I mentioned earlier
in the segment, mobility has to be the first thing
we look at. We have to look at range, emotion
and range movement of all the key joint systems to
make sure that's the foundation of how we start training
our kids if I can get them to move well first,

(01:25:00):
if I can access all of the range of motion
at all the key joint systems they're going to be
using in their sport first, then lay strength on top
of that. Second, I've got a really great foundation to
prevent common injuries from happening, to keep them in sport longer,
to keep them performing at their highest possible level longer,
and to let them eventually escalate to that next level

(01:25:21):
if that's where they want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
When you say strength, are you talking literally appropriate age,
appropriate weight training?

Speaker 9 (01:25:27):
Yes, I'm talking about not dropping them right into the
Olympic lifting room on day one and trying to teach
them how to do a clean and jerk or a squat.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Or deadlifts things like that.

Speaker 9 (01:25:39):
No, get them to move well first, put them out
on the floor second, and teach them how to manage
their own body weight first. How can I handle body
weight type exercises? How can I do plyometric type exercises?
How can I do those functional things that really equate
to much better strength and power than you access or
get in the Olympic room.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Are young men, and we know they're made different, But
are they skeletonly speaking, different do you have to approach
end range of motion differently for a young man versus
a young woman.

Speaker 9 (01:26:12):
No exact same, okay, exact same type of approach happens there.
Once again, look at the ability to move the joint
system through its full range of motion. Make sure that's
available first, and if you teach them how to consistently
utilize those in range movement protocols on top of their strength,
conditioning and development processes, then you have a well rounded,

(01:26:34):
injury resistant athlete that is capable of performing at their
highest level. We don't have that happening anywhere in athletics
right now in the world that I know of. We
don't have this kind of hyper aggressive stance and move
no pun intended towards getting athletes to the end of
their range of motion consistently before we put them on

(01:26:55):
the strength and conditioning floor intermediately or during the conditioning protocols.
I need to interrupt those processes within range movement and
at the end of their strength and conditioning process I
need to introduce them to those in range movement protocols.
We have to consistently be pushing the joints to their endpoints,
so that we are getting to the point where we're

(01:27:15):
stopping these common injuries from happening.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
You have actual experience with you mentioned Olympic athletes, but
professional sports franchises. You're demonstrating this, you're proving this as
this is what works and keeps athletes playing sports and
doing so in a healthy manner.

Speaker 9 (01:27:35):
We're going in and training trainers, training teams, training coaches,
training staffs to understand how to implement these protocols. We've
created and designed a platform across town and our facility
over their Town Center Fitness in Southwood to introduce these
concepts to athletes and our programming out there. We're trying
to teach and educate all the people that are accessing

(01:27:56):
these kids, these athletes, at every platform, at every level,
how to apply these protocols so we can stop this
common pattern of injury from happening in sports and athletics
and keep our kids engaged so they can reach the
goals and the heights they want to reach in their sport.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Kid comes home, they said they've got a sprained ankle
or a sprained wrist, or they tweak something in their back.
What's the first thing mom and dad ought to do?

Speaker 9 (01:28:23):
If there's trauma involved, we do always recommend at least
in X ray so we can just see and make
sure there's nothing fractured or broken. But after that you
need to have the triage and you need to start
moving it. We've got to start once again gaining movement
back once a sprain strainer injury happens. First step is
always gain movement back, then see what's left over second

(01:28:43):
after that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
So immobilization is not normally the proper thing.

Speaker 9 (01:28:47):
To do, not the thing to do anymore, and the
rest ice and elevation theory has been tossed out the
window and is no longer viable now it doesn't have
any science to support it. So now we ice temporarily
only in the first eighteen to twenty four hours, and
after that we start movement.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
Nice. I love it when you come in here. Thanks
for making time, Thanks for having me. Chad Gray. It
is Jointstrong dot com and hopefully here. I would put
it this way, this is about just putting a comma
on your injuries, your stiffness, your pain. Don't put a
period and say well I gotta do this. Learn about

(01:29:27):
your options and learn about how to perhaps figure out
how you can almost become your own doctor and treat
yourself by just learning what to do. I think you're
going to find some help there jointstrong dot com and

(01:30:02):
range motion on my fingers. No, it's amazing. It's one day.
I'm going to go through the list of things that
I've had fixed and and look, I'm a firm believer

(01:30:25):
in appropriate chiropractic care and regularly use it. There are
other things that I believe are required for certain types
of conditions, and that's what led me to seek out chat.
And yeah, I'll never forget when I started getting trigger finger.

(01:30:52):
My father in law has it and I was not
going that way new anyway, I'll talk about that. This
was funny. This is funny. Do you know Colombia has
a history of officially registering rather unconventional names. They have
a national registry that you have to run a name

(01:31:15):
through to see if it violates a person's dignity. For example,
it is it is said no to Maperro, which is
my dog. It is said to know and no to Santanos,
which is satan. But here's what it approved. It approved
Michael Jordan m A I CO L y O R

(01:31:41):
D N. Michael Jordan and it just approved chat yipit
Bastidas Guerrera. So this little daughter is going has been
named chat yepit that got approved. Brought to you by

(01:32:03):
barn No Heating and Air. It's the Morning Show one
on WFLA. This is my little girl Jack yeep it
t chat chat cheep eep e T.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
No way Jose.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
We started the program with first Peter five, verse eight.
We'll pick up there tomorrow. Big Stories in the press box.
Tampa Bay Bucks Express Entry to go to a home
football game this year. You can sign up for it
faciow recognition. You skip the lines, you show your face
to the camera and it immediately approves you and your guest.

(01:32:49):
Your guest doesn't have to sign up for it, just
so they're on your ticket. I asked the question, you going,
are you gonna do it? If you're a season ticket
holder to any maybe FSU rolls this out sometime, or
University of Florida or whatever team you favor, whatever events
you go to you're gonna go to, you do in
facial recognition? How many of you have it on your phone?

(01:33:11):
How many you have it on your tablet, your camp,
your laptop, laptop, young adults say friendship is getting too expensive.
Results of a study talked about Doge finding more waste.
Kamala Harris's stepdaughter struggling with climate anxiety. I'm wondering if
she's confusing that with stepmother anxiety. Yeah, we'll be back tomorrow.

(01:33:36):
Can't wait.