Ep. 5454: What does "CBS" mean?

This is the full episode of The Morning Show with Preston Scott for Wednesday, September 17th. 

Our guests today include:
- Jonathan Buther
- Joe Winkler 




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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Good morning, Ruminators, and welcome one and all. Five past
the hour The Morning Show with Preston Scott. It is Wednesday,
September seventeenth. More on that date in Mere Moments show
fifty four fifty four? Fifty four fifty four, wasn't there
a television car fifty four Where are You? I think so.
I think that was a television show back in the day.

(00:41):
I feel like there was like almost like a car
fifty four where are You? I think it was kind
of like a little almost song. Some of you will
will know and will write me Preston at iHeartRadio dot com.
But we'll get to this date in history in just
a few moments. That's Jose interesting. He's got the the

(01:02):
fall version of the Hawaiian print shirt, meaning the bass
color is black, the flowers very light, a splat spattering
of white and pink and sort of a orchid color there.

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And then but but he's got the dark cowboy hat
in there. He's got the duster, the black duster, you know,
like like Wyatt Arp, Doc Holliday, you know that kind
of thing. And then he's also got a leather jacket
in there. It's like he is just you sir or
a plate of fashion. Well trap partner. Anyway, we welcome

(01:50):
you to the show. I have to laugh, I have
to I I am forcing myself. I will walk down
the hallway a little while ago to grab some stuff
I printed, and I wanted to put my fist through
a wall. No, seriously, I absolutely did. It was just

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and it was like the wall was just there and
it was just perfect and I and I just took
a big deep breath and I just started praying to
the Lord as I walked down the hallway, just kind
of okay, check my brain, check my heart, check my attitude. Angry, angry,

(02:49):
listen to what scripture has for us today. This is
what popped up in my devotional romans, Romans twelve to two.
Do not be conformed to this world. Big time rebuke
on my walking down the hallway wanting to punch a wall,
but be transformed by the renewal of your mind. And
that's what I did by starting to pray. Look, I'm

(03:14):
not patting myself on the back. I'm confessing I'm angry. Honestly.
The last several days, for obvious reasons, have been a
test for me because I've had to read so much,

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and I know more than I want to know. I
so I need this be transformed by the renewal of
your mind, that by testing, you may discern what is
the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

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By testing is what I want to go to. How
do you test things? Well? You hopefully are renewing your
mind through prayer, through scripture, and then when you have thoughts,

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when you're confronted with situations and circumstances, you have enough
of God's word, you have the constant of the Holy
Spirit dwelling in you. You allow your mind to be
renewed so that the things of this world they don't

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clutter you to the point where you cannot discern. Because
testing is about discerning, running things through the filter that
is God's word, your relationship with Christ. That is how
you test and discern. If it doesn't pass that test,
it's not right, and you got to put it down.

(05:15):
I can't speak for you, but I've had to put
a lot of things down lately. I hope that helps.
Ten past the hour what I have to make myself

(05:42):
do that. Let's see here, it's the seventeenth of September.
Do you remember sixteen thirty was the year that English Puritans,
led by John Winthrop found Boston, Massachusetts. I think we

(06:03):
shall call this Boston one day. It will be the
hub of irrational thought. Seventeen seventy six, Spanish explorers found
the presidio around which San Francisco will grow. Isn't that interesting?
So while we're birthing a nation on this side of

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the country, on the other side of the country, the
Spanish are basically finding the spot where they will build
the presidio, which will be San Francisco. It's really kind
of strange to think about it because you've got these
this going on while the nation is being born. Because

(06:48):
I think we have this idea that well, you know,
the Revolutionary War, nothing else was going on. Oh no,
there's a whole rest of the continent that they're like,
huh what huh? Seventeen eighty seven. Sorry, the Constitutional Convention
improves the final draft of the Constitution. More on that
in a moment. Well, no, forget that, do it now?
It is Constitution Day? Did you know that? Now? Through

(07:12):
the next two weeks, for the first time ever, the
entire United States Constitution is on display in the state capitol.
The entire thing, the amendments. Usually it's the first four
pages that's it. The amendments are out, including a page

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signed by George Washington that apparently has never been seen
by the public. So there you go. Eighteen sixty two
Union troops stop a Confederate invasion of Maryland at the
Battle of Antietam, bloodiest day of fighting in the Civil
War Antietam. Nineteen twenty American Football Association Professional Football Association

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later renamed the NFL, is formed in Canton, and in
nineteen seventy eight, at the White House, Egyptian President Anwar
Sadat Israeli Prime Minister Monacham began signed the Camp David Accords.
It cost Sadada's life. Extremist shot and killed him. Another
assassination captured on television. He was shot and killed by
basically his own troops. What else do we have here?

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It is National Apple Dumpling Day, and as I say
those words, my wife is jonesing for some brewsters ice
cream with their apple dumplings. I know it, I know it,
and as fate would have it, another favorite, it is

(08:46):
National Monte Cristo Day. Now here's what I've never embraced
about a Monte Cristo. First of all, if you don't know,
a monte cristo is a fancy grilled cheese, grilled ham
and cheese sam. It's a ham and cheese sandwich that
is then battered. It's like French toast and deep fried.

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You put powdered sugar over it, cut it, and you
have a just one of the most rich, decadent, artery
clogging meals ever. And what I've never embraced is the
strawberry or raspberry jam that goes on the side. Now,

(09:33):
some people do different kinds of you know, current and whatever,
but it's either raspberry or strawberry jam, and you're supposed
to spread the jam on each bite to and usually
you want a kind of a jam that's got a
little tartness to it to offset the sweetness because hand

(09:54):
by its nature, tends to be a little as sweet.
And of course you're dealing with powdered sugar and deep
fried goodness and basically a French toast type batter. I mean,
I look at a sandwich like that and get full
without taking a bite. It's just it's just it's a
massive sandwich. The only place I know in this area

(10:16):
that serves one is Glory Days. Glory Day serves a
really sporty Monte Cristo. But I can't. I can't do
the damn thing. I just I haven't figured out what
to do with it. It's like I almost wonder would
there be something else because I just jelly jam that

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belongs on toast period. That's it. Maybe a biscuit if
you're like desperate. So there you go, sixteen seventeen past
the arm, come back with it? Did you know? And
some PSA some things you need to know about? Did

(11:05):
you know that? If you're interested in a truly remote vacation.
White Desert Limited, British company, offers five star accommodations in Antarctica,
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to one hundred and five thousand per vacation. Is there

(11:33):
any part of you that would like to go to
that level of isolation and cold? Depends? Depends first if
my wife's with me, but she hates the cold. I

(11:58):
guess that's what will happen. If you grow up in
in Ohio, you'll like I'm over it, Like I spent
enough winners in Minnesota. I get it. I absolutely get
it just a random here, just things going on. To
be aware of raising money for the Army Monument at

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the US National Cemetery here in Tallahassee the Army Memorial
Monument as well as the Battlefield Cross. To learn more,
v o I t u r E eleven twenty dot com,
Voischer eleven twenty dot com, v o I t U
r E eleven twenty dot com. The Tallasse Moose Lodge

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ten seventy five car show donating proceeds to Honor Flight Saturday,
October eighteenth, from nine am to twelve rain or shine,
fifteen bucks per vehicle. We're gonna do a silent auction
of fifty to fifty drawing all that stuff and it

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will be again at the Moose Lodge on Capitol Circle Northwest.
So that's a car show coming up on Saturday the eighteenth.
On Tuesday the twenty eighth, the fourteenth annual Remembrance Dinner
at the Dunlap Champions Club. You can learn more Holocaust

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Resources dot org Holocaust Resources dot org. If you'd like
to take part, maybe just contribute support to dinner. What
else do we have here? Oh, Keystone Federated Republican Women
fourth Biennial American Valor Dinner and Support of Local Veterans

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featuring Florida Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins, Thursday November sixth, five
point thirty two, eight thirty at the Monticello Opera House.
Kfr WFL dot org. Kfrwfl dot org. Gotta buy tickets
in advance. Speaking up, the Lieutenant Governor is going to

(14:16):
be joining us in studio tomorrow. He's asked to come
on the program. Very excited to meet him. I've heard
nothing but wonderful things. Now. His staff when he was
a state senator didn't want him to come on the show.
My hunches there might be new people or perhaps just

(14:39):
a different, different mission. I don't know, But as Lieutenant
Governor's coming in and so we're going to talk about
a bunch of stuff tomorrow, including e verify what I'm saying.
Also First Commerce Credit Union, Tallassee Symphony Orchestra, the John
Williams Cinema Celebration partnership with Leon County and Scott Carswell

(15:07):
Friday November seventh at the Atterley Amphitheater at Cascades Park.
I know a lot of people are a little nervous
about that. I get it. I absolutely fully understand the nervousness.
I would just assuage you that there will be all

(15:29):
kinds of law enforcement presence. It's a nighttime event, it
should be beautiful time of year weather wise, as we're
getting closer to that, So something to think about. And
again that's that's going to be a really cool event.
And you can get your tickets at Aerley theaterlely Amphitheater
dot com, Theadterleamphitheater dot com. Twenty seven past the hour,

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come back, big stories in the press box, and we're
gonna get rolling here this morning. I'll get to uh,
why I had to just redirect myself a little while ago,
why I was so angry, And it's not about sharing it. Well,

(16:15):
let's just go ahead and make everybody else angry. It's
about putting some context to what's going on around us
right now. And there's a tendency just to bury yourself
and say I can't, I can't do this. I understand
that I do. But we have to build up some

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spiritual callouses. We have to. We have to, we have
to kind of we've got to brace ourselves and be
able to function and speak to and address what's going
on on Yesterday, the prosecutors laid out some of the evidence.

(17:08):
They didn't argue their case. They're laying out probable cause
for charging the shooter. And he's the shooter. He's admitted that.
I've got the text exchange with his boyfriend. You heard right,
his boyfriend. Now, based on that exchange, it sounds like

(17:31):
his boyfriend didn't have a clue what he was going
to do. And I'll share so I will read that
exchange in just a few, you know, next hour. But
he's facing seven counts total right now. But it's going

(17:55):
to expand aggravated murder. It's a capital offense. The aggravation
in counts one and two. Count two is felony. Discharge
of a firearm causing serious bodily injury is because it
targeted Charlie Kirk based on his political beliefs. And I'm
told additionally because the children were there, children were present,

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those are aggravating factors. There are other charges. CBS News
is out there. This is unbelievable. By the way, I've
got a new I've got a new definition for the

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acronym CBS complete, CBS complete. Listen to this. CBS is
out there with the motive remains elusive, not driven by
an obvious political ideology vagues secondhand testimony, motive remains elusive.

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No writing's left behind. Were you not aware of the
bullet casings? Which, oh, by the way, they found a
match inside the apartment that has the same writing and
all of that on that. I mean his DNA's on
the trigger, it's this is And when you hear the
text back and forth, this guy actually thought he was

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going to just get away with it if he had
just been able to get the rifle. He used grandpa's rifle.
And when the and when and when the Feds, when
law enforcement in Utah put pictures of it up. Grandpa
called his son and said, where's my rifle? The parents

(19:55):
told authorities we recognized our son and the photos we
knew it was him. Young man responding to the you know, boy,
grandpa's rifle really worked well. Must have been a two
thousand dollars scope on that thing. And this final note,

(20:23):
it's related, It really is related. Totally different case. The
judge has dropped a terrorism charge against the shooter of
the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. He dropped it because

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he said, there's no obvious there's no evidence presented of
a desire to terrorize the public, inspire widespread fear, or
engage in a broader campaign of violence. You've got to
be kidding me. Hold on, here's what's significant. Not only

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does this guy no longer face life in prison without
the possibility of parole. The MAXI can get includes the
possibility of parole. He shot a guy in the back
and killed him. And there are people celebrating this news

(21:29):
that believe he should be released, that are wearing little
hats of Nintendo characters that match his first name. Celebrating
this forty one past the hour. Some mini headlines.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Nextfla student expelled Texas State.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
College after acting out Charlie Kirk's assassination at a vigil.
Guy stood up on a statue, said bleep, y'all your
homie dad, and acted like he'd been shot in the neck.
He's been expelled. Good Fire Chief of Cleveland has been

(22:42):
put on leave over an incendiary post mocking Charlie Kirk's death.
Ted Cruz among many out there saying, Pam Bondy, you're wrong.
Hate speech is not criminal. It's pretend by the First
Amendment she backed it. She backed off the statement that

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you would prosecute hate speech, saying that leads to violence,
that's criminal. Good luck with that. Look, I've argued there's
no such thing as a hate crime. It's a crime.

(23:29):
The factors of motivation should that. It's got nothing to
do with it. The shooter of Charlie Kirk said you
can't you can't negotiate with this kind of hate. So
what did he do? He killed him? What's that? What
kind of hate is that? Now? It's a crime, And

(23:54):
there's the problem. See, I'm of the opinion that hate crimes,
we've we've labeled them hate crimes, and we're almost in
a backhanded way justifying a hate Well, it's it's a
hate crime. Well that man speaking is so hateful because

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I don't like what he says, and I feel a
responsibility to silence his hate because what he's doing is
a crime. See, no, it's not. We heard yesterday from
Kat Camick. Three Democrats showed up at a vigil at

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the capitol. Three three three A came. Jeffries offered a
forward excuse, I had a meeting. Okay, ABC News corresponding
Matt Gutt, the exchanges between the assassin and his boyfriend

(25:06):
were very touching, very touching. It was he he he
was taken aback at how sweet and kind and considerate
the shooter was of his boyfriend. I'm not done, and

(25:28):
these are just snapshots. There's the trans cyclist out there
and I'll talk more about this story in the next
couple of days. Threatening protesters with violence and NonStop profanities.
They're just saying, why are you competing against women? This

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guy's one of the worst out there in attitude. And
this is again, this is this is what happens when
you give ground to this stuff. He should not be
allowed to compete against women. And I've got a fascinating
story on that in just a few minutes. And if
you can believe it, Jimmy Kimmel's still out there saying

(26:15):
that MAGA is responsible for the death of Charlie Kirk,
that there's no evidence that this guy was a left winger.
Are you kidding? This is intentional stupidity. This is an

(26:38):
effort because, as I pointed out, people on the left,
though many have condemned this and are doing the right thing,
they are afraid of their extreme wing. The left is
afraid of their extremists. Mark my words, it's just a

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matter of time before someone on the left is targeted
because they aren't left enough. We're already seeing them, you know,
kicked out of the party or having to leave because
they're just they're not passing the litmus test of extremism.
And in that regard, the extreme left is exactly the
same as Islamic terrorists. Islamic terrorists will target Islamets that

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are not extreme enough. They will they already do. They'll
kill them. And that's what we'll see you, mark my words,
if you're on the left side of the aisle and
you're on the wrong side. And that's why this group's
not going to vigils, because they'll be targeted. They're scared.

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Forty eight minutes past the hour, it's the morning with
Preston Scott. You know, one of the comments that we've

(28:12):
made on this program over the years is the reduced standards. Look,
I am of the opinion that if women are capable
of doing jobs that are traditionally jobs men do, awesome,
they want to do them, but you don't change the

(28:34):
standards for them. You know, they're just if you want
to be a firefighter, God bless you. But you've got
to be able to carry people out of a burning building,
and so you have to carry a certain weight. That's
their standards if you're in hand to hand combat. That's

(28:59):
why we have resisted women in most hand to hand
combat roles. That's why I think that you know, women
are oftentimes victimized as police officers, as a law enforcement
officers because they're physically not as strong as they need

(29:22):
to be. But you could say that about some guys too, right.
But there are standards, and the military is getting back
to some standards. And it's interesting because the FBI is
applying some standards. They're going back to basic Field training
course standards. They're called eighteen eleven standards. FBI now expects

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agents to pass them. And in his questioning yesterday, Cash Bettel,
who had some incredible blow ups with members of the Senate,
gets asked by Senator Maizie Errano of Hawaii. One question
I had is you're now requiring applicants to do a

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certain kind of pull ups, which a lot of women
cannot do because of physiological differences. Are you requiring these
kind of pull ups? Wait a minute, this is the
same Maisie Hurrano, who killed a transgender bill, saying that
men and women are the same, but now she's arguing
their physiological differences. That women can't pass this test most women,

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So she's admitting that there are differences between men and
women physically. Isn't that interesting? Huh? You don't say. We're
going to come back, Jonathan Butcher's going to join us
from the Heritage Foundation. We're going to talk about Florida's
report card. All right, it's the second hour of the

(31:10):
Morning Show with Preston Scott. Good to be with you
this morning. I'm Preston Funny how that works out, isn't it?
That's so I say. And later on this hour, I'm
going to share the text exchange that took place between

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the between the shooter and his friend that the ABC
News correspondent is fawning over. We've got a lot of
other things to get to today. Next hour, Joe Winkler
will join us. Joe is the Assistant Secretary of Community
Corrections with the Department of Corrections. You might hear that

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and go community corrections, What is that? Well, it is,
in fact, bringing corrections into where we all live and
addressing the reality that that handoff is very, very important,

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and I think that it is vitally important that you
know some of what's going on and importantly how you
can maybe participate in help. But as I mentioned, there's
a report card out on the state of Florida as
well as the entire nation. It's done by the Heritage Foundation.

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It's the twenty twenty five Education Freedom report Card. We
talk about it every year on the show. We've been
working with Heritage Foundation for probably about twenty years of
the twenty three plus years of doing this show. And
joining me is Jonathan Butcher. Jonathan is acting director of
the Center for Education with Heritage. Jonathan, welcome, how are you.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Thank you great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Tell me a little bit about the report card. Give
listeners a very macro, thirty thousand foot view of what
this report card is all about and what it's comprised of.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Sure, so this is our fourth year doing the report card,
and instead of looking at average test scores or how
much money a state is spending on their K twelve schools,
we look at the degree to which parents have the
freedom to choose how where their children learn right what
you call education choice. We look at return on investment,
so how much student test scores are improving for each

(33:38):
dollar that taxpayer spends. We look at other things like
academic transparency as well as teacher freedom. And then this
year we added a component measuring Civics education and how
states are handling that. And as those in Florida will know,
there's been a big push in Florida to improve the
way Civics is taught.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
What grade does the nation get overall and which direction
is it trending well?

Speaker 3 (34:05):
The surveys of Americans show that we are generally dissatisfied
with K twelve schools nationally as a system. Curiously, though,
when you ask people what they think about their local school,
they actually give it quite high ratings. So that's why
a report card like HOURS is so valuable because you
can look at a state and determine that just because
say Massachusetts tends to pay twenty twenty five thousand dollars

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or more for their schools, the separation between students at
the upper end of the income scale and the lower end,
there's actually a pretty significant achievement difference there, whereas a
state like Florida, Mississippi, Arizona, they have closed the achievement gap.
Even in places like Mississippi, they have raised reading scores,
which is something that hasn't really been done anywhere else

(34:53):
in the country except for maybe Louisiana has done it recently.
So just because the state spends a lot of money,
just because parents think that their local school is effective,
doesn't really represent what's going on.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Joining me on the program is Jonathan Butcher with the
Heritage Foundation. We're talking about a report card. Jonathan standby.
We got to take a quick little seventy second break
here for whether in traffic come back talks some more
and drill down into what's going right in Florida, where
Florida might think about improving things. I found it interesting there.

(35:27):
Overall we're struggling, but people look at their own district
and go, We're okay, it's somebody else more to come
here on the Morning Show.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Find more on his vlog wufla FM dot com.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Keyword Preston Heritage Foundation a think tank bringing all kinds
of policy proposals and thoughts, reflections, researching what works, what
doesn't work, what we ought to be thinking about nationally broadly,

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but still able to drill down a little bit to
states and in this case, the state of Florida came
in with the highest overall education freedom ranking. Jonathan, tell
me why, So, Florida.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Has more education options for students and families than almost
any state in the nation. I mean really, only places
like Arizona, maybe Ohio can even come close. And they've
had these options for a long long time. And that
makes a significant difference, because not only are you helping
students that have unique needs, but you're creating an environment

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where what matters isn't what the school district is telling
parents how they are doing, giving themselves an AB or
C on whatever state report card there is. You actually
have parents able to provide transparency. They'll talk to their neighbors,
right they know what's happening in a child school, and
they create what I think is the most authentic version

(37:04):
of academic transparency there is, and that is the opinion
of parents.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Jonathan. Are we seeing a correlation yet between Florida has
this education freedom they've kind of locked it down for
the last four years in your report card. What is
the relationship between that and improving scores in various areas

(37:28):
Because more are being homeschooled, more are going to co ops,
more are going to online, more are going to charter schools.
Are we seeing an improvement because I just we talked
just a couple days ago about the National report Card
and the assessment showing that, for example, high school seniors
are reading at the lowest level since they started doing
the assessment in nineteen ninety two. So are we seeing

(37:51):
good positive movement in areas of education.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Well, we are, and the research on education choice finds
that student achievement does go up. In fact, we have
eleven reports using the highest level of social science research
it's called random assignment, that finds positive outcomes for students.
Now here's the thing. In these private schools, their test

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scores don't often get mixed in with the nation's report card.
So when you look at NATE, you don't always get
a measure of what's happening with the children who are
using school choice. Right, You're only getting a measure of
students who are in assigned schools. Now, in fairness, there
is evidence that students in assigned schools also show student achievement.

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But without a reliable, I think sample of children in
private schools included in the nation's report card, I don't
know that you're getting the full picture.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Do you think it would be helpful? Though I worry
that that would artificially inflate the numbers. I like the
idea of having, Okay, what's the public education system producing
versus all others. I think that's good because that's kind
of the whole point of the freedom movement in education,
which I endorse, is the idea of competition for the

(39:09):
public school system and making it better. But we're not
seeing that just yet.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Well, I mean, we certainly could do both. I mean,
there's no reason that we couldn't have the Nation's report
Card desegregate student scores by test score, by grade, obviously
by subject, and then be able to also have a
comprehensive number. Right, there's no reason we couldn't do both.
In fact, the Nation's report Card actually does that. They
have a measure called the that looks at inner city

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urban areas. It's called the TUDA, the Trial Urban District Assessment.
They also have scores for some Catholic schools mainly around
the country as well, so it is possible to break
up scores like this, and I think that's a better
measure of the students who are using private school choice.
I think that would help us to have a of

(40:02):
how private school choice is helping students.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
If we were to step back for just a moment,
do you think we're looking at right now with what's
going on with the gen Z and the generation even behind,
and we're seeing their reaction to what's going on in
our country today. I would say that that is a
classic indictment of the lack of civic engagement, civic education,

(40:26):
American history education, and so forth. Are we getting the
sense that more parents are going to be pushing away
from public education because of this freedom and education movement?

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Well, I think what we see around civics is it's
simply not taught enough. And as you look at universities
where students are camping on college grounds where they're harassing
other students, particularly Jewish students, that is evidence that civics
is not being taught well enough in K twelve schools.
In addition to scores of the nation's report card, you know,

(41:00):
you see this teaching of critical race theory as well
as the quote gender movement in n K twelve schools.
As you know, it's another reason for parents to be
skeptical of the way in which public schools are preparing
young people for the future. So yes, I mean I
think that is turning many parents off. And we see

(41:21):
that in surveys, right, the surveys on what parents think about,
quote the trans movement. They don't like the idea that
boys have accessed the girls private spaces. Sure, they don't
like the idea that boys would be participating on girls
athletic teams. So you know, the more that traditional schools
pushed these ideas, I think the more they'll be pushing

(41:43):
parents away.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Last question for you, and I appreciate your time this morning, Jonathan,
because this is your wheelhouse. So what do you think
is the single most important takeaway for parents this morning
from this this this.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Report, Well, we should be encouraged by the growth in
school choice in the country, with the passage in Texas
of a private school choice option now in the form
of education savings accounts, which of course you have in
Florida as well. But with the passage this year of
the program in Texas, half of all children around the
country have access to some form of private school scholarship

(42:17):
or education savings account. This is a tipping point right
where half of the children in the US have access
to some sort of private learning option, and I think
that's what parents want, and that really is the future
for KHLOW schooling in the US, where parents can choose
how and where their children learns.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Love it. Jonathan, thanks for the hard work. I appreciate
you joining me for a few minutes this morning. Thank you,
Jonathan Butcher, Heritage Foundation, My guests, seventeen almost eighteen past the.

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Speaker 1 (43:11):
This story, to me is it's one that most of
you are just gonna skim right past because most of
you have no idea who Forrest Frankie is. I was
introduced to him by not personally, but by my son.
One of my sons really has has followed and listened
to this guy's music for several years now. And he's

(43:35):
a Christian singer. He's got kind of a light, breezy
kind of vibe, almost a little reggae, almost kind of
a pop reggae kind of sound. He's got a song
out right now with an artist that a lot of
you might be more familiar with, Toby Mack, but he's

(43:59):
got a pretty big following millions of followers on his
Instagram account Big Concerts, and he took to Instagram and
shared a video of Charlie Kirk speaking about him and
praising him for creating Christian music. And as he was

(44:21):
making the video forrest, Frank became really emotional and he
didn't want to keep talking without addressing the assassination. The
video garnered a million more than a million likes twenty
thousand comments before he shared another video back a few

(44:44):
days ago, saying that he lost tens of thousands of
followers for speaking out about Charlie's assassination. Thirty thousand have
stopped following him because he supported Charlie Kirk. Thirty thousand
people and followed me because I posted about Charlie Kirk,

(45:05):
and I said, Jesus Christ is Lord good. I don't
want you to follow me. I don't care if you
follow me. I do care if you follow Jesus. I
have nothing else to share but this one message. And
I repent for ways I've allowed my platform to be lukewarm.
A lukewarm highlight reel. The reason why I wanted to

(45:27):
highlight this, and I might go a little along here
is that this is revealing a problem inside the body
of Christ. There may be some people that aren't Christian
at all that listen to his music because it's positive

(45:50):
and uplifting. Though he's very demonstrative about God and Jesus
and Heaven and you know, the realities of a Christian life.
His personal testimony is incredible. But the followers are you
would think, are made up mostly of people that are

(46:12):
like minded, right and broadbrush here right. So thirty thousand
unfollowed him. So what thirty thousand think the assassination of
Charlie Kirk's cool. See, here's the thing. There are people

(46:35):
inside Christian churches that think they're Christians and are as
lost as lost can be. There are people in Christian
churches that think that pregnancy is the choice that is

(46:57):
theirs to make. It doesn't matter. Rather a abortion, there's nothing.
They divorce themselves from their Christian faith on abortion. They
divorced themselves from the Christian faith. On homosexuality, on transgenderism,
on all of these issues, they divorce themselves from their
Christian faith. It only goes so far, and then it's inconvenient.

(47:21):
Judge not lest you be judged. I am not suggesting
these people need to be put out of the church.
Yet I am suggesting there's a biblical process for confronting
this and it needs to happen. And I say this

(47:49):
with all sincerity and clarity. You don't get to pick
and choose what part of God's Word applies to your life.

(48:11):
It does not conform to you, you conform to it.
And to those of you that are pretending I'm praying
for you, you can't serve two masters. You cannot have one

(48:35):
foot in the world and one foot in the body
of Christ. And for many that go to church on Sundays,
you've got to foot in both worlds. And you're going
to have to choose. These the times we're in are
forcing a choice. Twenty nine minutes past the.

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Speaker 1 (49:05):
Welcome to the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Tropical depression
seven forms in the Atlantic. Ah, it's a depression, oh man. Now,

(49:27):
Actually I ran the simulator on it, and it looks
like it's going to get pushed off to the north
and then back to the east and is not going
to be a thing. As of now, the Projection show,
we're going to stay in this mode of beautiful weather,
just beautiful. Now. The lawns are getting a little dry.

(49:49):
The plants need a little drink. But yeah, well, by
the way, we're going to talk about our lawns on
Friday from the ground up, our friends at Espositos. We're
going to talk about the lawn and how to keep
it looking as good as we can keep it. It's
a weird time of year, but the lawns are drying

(50:09):
out big time because the humidity is so low. So
charges have been announced against the killer of Charlie Kirk
and he's the killer. I'm not mincing words on this.
He's not the alleged killer though. No, he's the killer.
He admitted it. I think it's safe to say when

(50:31):
he admitted it, I can say it too. We'll get
to that story a little bit more here in a second.
I want to get to the story of the shooter
of Brian Thompson, United Healthcare CEO, was gunned down, shot
in the back. Cowards. See, these people are cowards. Can't

(50:58):
sit down and talk and you know how amazed. I
gotta pause. The judge in the case in New York
is saying that we're dropping terrorism charges, and the crowd
was just overjoyed. You know, this guy's a celebrity with
a group of people in this country. And let me
reaffirm if convicted, and he'll be convicted. He he has

(51:25):
the possibility, pearl, And don't think for a second in
the state of New York he couldn't get it. And
then he'll be a celebrity. Oh, don't you worry about that.
This is this is just where we are right now,

(51:51):
and this is why our segments with Charlie and JD
are so important. You might say, ah, you're not I'm
who am i I'm an Really, the whole point of

(52:11):
this kind of domestic terrorism is to silence anyone. And
I'm telling you, right after people that think that Jesus
is Lord, that believe in conservatism and the greatness of America,
with all of its flaws, still the greatest country in
the world, right after that group, the targets are the

(52:36):
people on the left that don't embrace them wholeheartedly and
celebrate the murder of Charlie Kirk with them. Forty minutes
past the hour, the text exchange next my news radio
one point seven Dousla. This is the notable text exchange

(53:10):
that you need to hear between the shooter and his roommate.
Boyfriend romantic interest a guy Lance Twiggs who is transitioning
to a woman and they were in a relationship. This

(53:37):
is a series of text messages. On September tenth, and
I'll go with roommate and shooter. Roommate received a text
message from the shooter which said, drop what you're doing.
Look under my keyboard. Under the keyboard, a note was

(53:58):
found which read I had the opportunity to take out
Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it. Please have
a photograph of the note, and then the following text
exchange took place. After reading the note, the roommate responded,
what question mark? Question mark? Question mark question mark? I
mean you're joking, right, Shooter. I'm still okay, my love,

(54:25):
but I'm stuck in orm for a little while. Longer
shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I
gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest, I had
hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age.
I'm sorry to involve you, roommate. You weren't the one
who did it, right, Shooter, I am, I'm sorry, roommate.

(54:47):
I thought they caught the person. Shooter know they grabbed
some crazy old dude that interrogated someone in similar clothing.
I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop
point shortly after, but most of that side of town
got locked down. It's quiet, almost enough to get out,
but there's one vehicle lingering. Roommate. Why shooter, Why did

(55:10):
I do it? Roommate, Yeah, shooter, I've had enough of
his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. If I'm
able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left
no evidence going to attempt to retrieve it again. Hopefully
they have moved on. I haven't seen anything about them
finding it. Roommate, how long have you been planning this, shooter?

(55:34):
A bit over a week. I believe I can get
close to it, but there's a squad car parked right
by it. I think they already swept that spot, but
I don't want to chance it. Shooter. I'm wishing i'd
circle back and grabbed it as soon as I got
to my vehicle. I'm worried what my old man would
do if I didn't bring back Grandpa's rifle. I don't
know if it had a serial number, but it wouldn't

(55:56):
trace to me. I worry about Prince. I had to
leave it in the bush where I changed outfits, didn't
have the ability or time to bring it with. I
might have to abandon it and hope they don't find prints.
How the bleep will I explain losing it to my
old man. Only thing I left was a rifle wrapped
in a towel. Remember how I was engraving bullets. The

(56:16):
bleeping messages are mostly big meme. If I notice and
he goes into that on Fox News, I might have
a stroke. I'm going to have to leave it. That
really bleeping sucks. Judging from today, I'd say Grandpa's gun
does just fine. I don't know. I think it was
a two thousand dollars scope shooter. Delete this exchange shooter.

(56:40):
My dad wants photos of the rifle, he says, Grandpa
wants to know who who has what. The Feds released
a photo of the rifle. It is very unique. He's
calling me right now, not answering shooter. Since Trump got
into office, my dad's been pretty die hard. Maga shooter.
I'm going to turn myself in willingly. One of my
neighbors is a deputy for the sheriff. Shooter. You're all

(57:05):
I worry about, love, roommate. I'm much more worried about you, shooter.
Don't talk to the media. Please, don't take any interviews
or make any comments. If police ask you questions, ask
for a lawyer, and stay silent. There's the exchange. Based

(57:26):
on that, it looks like it seems as though the
roommate was not aware. Now we don't know. Was that
all a choreographed cover for some reason. I don't know.
None of us know. We don't know anybody who claims

(57:50):
they know. They don't know. People can think all kinds
of things. That's pretty compelling evidence. Does the attorney, the
state attorney, ever accept a plea offer. I wouldn't. You've

(58:11):
got an open and shut case. Can you imagine what
the family is thinking right now? Their son, whom they love,
regardless of how misguided his personal life choices, but his
son just committed a heinous act and their son is

(58:31):
facing the death penalty. I just I prayed for his family,
not just Charlie's family, but the family of this shooter,
the family of the roommate, what are they thinking? What
is gone? What's happened to our son? Forty eight minutes past,

(58:56):
we come back. We're going to change gearsmadically.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
The Morning Show with Preston Scott on News Radio one
hundred point seven.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Went in, la, it's time we set aside the big stories.
We set aside the big guests. It's time for no Way.

Speaker 7 (59:30):
I would say, good morning everybody, compadres, comadres, how are
you all doing out there? So I have a story
here was from last week, but you know, it got
skipped over, but I decided to hold it because I
wanted to, you know, let people know a little bit
about myself. Before I came to Jesus, I used to

(59:52):
believe in aliens. No way, Yep, that's right. I know,
hard to believe, but I did. And I found this
story interesting because, uh, some fighter jets shot some hellfire
missiles at a mysterious orb and it's donned Congress. They

(01:00:12):
watched a video and a hearing. Uh and the yeah,
it did nothing, no damage to the drone or or
the orb. The mysterious orb. Yeah, And I don't believe
anymore the aliens exist. I'm with the train of thought
that probably demons, but there some high tech, you know, equipment.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
So you're saying we shot at an ORB and the
missiles bounced off.

Speaker 7 (01:00:39):
Yeah, I did nothing to it. The thing just zipped
off and did whatever it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Wanted to do. No Way, Yeah, absolutely. Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:00:46):
And then last year I thought this was pretty unbelievable.
There's some men, two men were convicted for using witchcraft
to assassinate a president in Africa.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Excuse me, yeah, yep, you what witchcraft? No way.

Speaker 7 (01:01:03):
They found charms and chameleons. I don't know why, lizards
and then some powders.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Well you know, chameleons are not exactly shape shifters, but
they are color shifters.

Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
There were probably attack chameleons, very well trained, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Assuming so they were gonna they were gonna try to
kill the leadership of this nation using witchcraft.

Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
Yes, mister, Lamma, hetch you Lamma.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
I believe, I hope I'm saying that right.

Speaker 7 (01:01:31):
Okay, yep, yeah, you bet you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Another edition of no Way oose here on The Morning
Show with Preston Scott. We come back me lay out
the the third hour of the program. We will, of
course get to the big stories in the press box.
There are a lot of columns being written about Charlie
Kirk would not have wanted this, and while there's some

(01:02:02):
interesting thoughts inside of it, I think the general thought
of at least one of these articles is just wrong.
We'll get to all of that, we'll unpack the latest news,
but first Joe Winkler joins me. He's Assistant Secretary of
Community Corrections for the Florida Department of Corrections, and we're
gonna explain some things that are going on and maybe

(01:02:24):
even how business owners and others how you can make
a difference. Next on the Morning Show with Preston Scott.

(01:02:56):
All right, friends, here we go, third hour of Fun
Show fifty four fifty four of the Morning Show with
preston' Scott. Great to be with Jose over there in
Studio one A. I am here in Studio one B
and as promised, joining me the Assistant Secretary of Community
Corrections for the Florida Department of Corrections, Joe Winkler. And
as a point of disclosure, I serve for a few

(01:03:17):
years with the Florida Foundation of Correctional Excellence. That's how
I got to know Joe and learn about what he does.
And as you know listening to the program, we've had
the Secretary of Corrections, Ricky Dixon on the program and
on a couple of occasions talking kind of exhaustively about
about corrections and Joe. Community Corrections. Explain to listeners what

(01:03:40):
that entails.

Speaker 8 (01:03:42):
Absolutely first and foremost, so Preston, let me say thank you.
It's an honor to be on your show, A long
time coming, glad to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:03:48):
Community Corrections is essentially supervision in the community. Our probation officers,
which we have about twenty two hundred throughout the state,
provides services to people that are placed on probation. Some
of the people are released directly from incarceration trying to
reintegrate back into society, and some are sentenced directly from court.
No matter if they're released directly from prison or from

(01:04:09):
the courts, we supervise the same way. We go through
the orders of supervision, which will all of them have,
and they are the conditions that are set forth by
the sentence and releasing authority, and we monitor and enforce
those and we do it in various ways. And that's
probably the biggest thing that people relate probation officers too
is enforcing conditions of supervision, but on the other end
of the spectrum, we also provide tools and resources to

(01:04:32):
help make individuals more successful in the communities that we
live in. And that's really important because people don't know
that's the other side of what we do. It took
me a long time in my career to understand how
important that was, and we have a lot of resources
that are out there. We do a lot of re
entry simulations that help external stakeholders understand what we do.

(01:04:53):
We have mobile probation units, we have employment specialists and
employment specialists. They're very important because evidence based research says
that if somebody's employed, their chances are being successful, not
just on probation, but being a more productive member in
the community goes way up. But if somebody is not employed,
their chances for success go way down. So in a nutshell,

(01:05:15):
our probation officers are very diverse. They're probably some of
the most important members in the criminal justice system because
of the many hats they wear, from enforcement of conditions
of supervision all the way through providing tools and resources
to help people be more successful in the community.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
He gave us a little bit of a scope of
the number of probation officers. What about the number of
inmates that are returning as citizens. They've paid their debt
to society, They're going to come out. What's that annual
number look like on average.

Speaker 8 (01:05:45):
That come to supervision? Is right at eight thousand that
we get directly from the prisons each year. Naturally there's
more release from incarceration, but when we get about eight
thousand of them, but put that in a little more perspective,
we have about seventy thousand new cases that are placed
on probation each year, So there is a big portion
that comes through directly from incarceration. We also have a

(01:06:06):
really big portion that comes directly from the courts.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
When I went through the re entry simulation, it was
a mind numbing experience for me. I've shared about it
on the program. I was not aware of the many
challenges I'll just put it that way that a returning
citizen faces when they are released or when they're put
on probation. It's largely the same set of hurdles, isn't it?

Speaker 8 (01:06:33):
Absolutely absolutely same thing, and a lot of them face
that employment. As I talked about earlier, we really focus
in on employment, we focus in on treatment. A lot
of people that are placed on supervision have some kind
of underlying cause of the crime they've committed, and we'd
really try to find out what that is and work
with our external stakeholders to help satisfy those needs. And

(01:06:55):
oftentimes I say it that it takes a village to
raise a child. Sure, we have a lot of children
one hundred and forty five thousand that are on supervision.
We also have a lot of resources in the community
that help us provide that support to those people that
we supervise.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
We're gonna take a break here, it's about ten minutes
past the hour. Joining me Joe Winkler, Assistant Secretary Community
Corrections with the Department of Corrections here in the Sunshine State.
We're going to pick up with just some of those
challenges and sharing with you specifically what they are and
the importance of helping people meet those challenges and pass
those challenges. That's next year on the Morning Show with

(01:07:30):
Preston Scott. This is the Morning Show with Preston Scott
talking about corrections here because there are realities and I

(01:07:51):
think what it boils down to with me Joe Winkler,
Assistant Secretary of Community Corrections with Doc is a lot
of people we don't think about. Look, I'm gonna tell
fun crime guy. I think a lot of you listening
to the program, you echo my feelings, but a lot
of us don't understand Joe that if if an inmate
isn't successful assimilating back into society, there will likely be

(01:08:14):
more victims, more cost, more taxpayer time in court and
in incarceration all over again. This is just a fiscal
common sense that we have to look at these issues,
talk us through what somebody on probation routinely, those those
day to day things they face on a day to

(01:08:35):
day and week to week, month a month basis.

Speaker 8 (01:08:37):
Yeah, great question, Preston, and you nailed it to. Our
mission is to protect the public and also reduce victimization,
and every step we take to work with the people
on supervision hopefully helps that public safety reduce those the
number of victims. Somebody that's placed on probation, they have
to report to the probation office generally once a month
when they come in. At that point, the officer goes

(01:08:57):
over those conditions of supervision. So they've tried to provide
guidance and support to help them with those conditions of supervision,
once again trying to protect the public and reduce the
victims that are out there. Then also we do a
lot of field visits, a lot of work in the community.
We say our people are probation officers. I like to
say they're community corrections professionals, because really when they're out

(01:09:18):
in the community, they're talking to the people in their
own world, talking to the people that they associate with.
That's real important because we get a little better sense
of who they are, what they do, and how we
can really provide those resources to them. Any point that
they're not doing what they're supposed to do, then at
that point will notify the Senator and release and authority. However,

(01:09:39):
we do want to work with them the best we
possibly can, once again provide them what we need to
make them more productive members in the community.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
You mentioned that the goal is going to be to
have someone have a job when they get out, when
they get out waiting for them not have to go
find a job, because if they don't have that job
waiting all of a sudden, all these other issues like
food housing, you know, they might not have a family
that they can live with. There are all kinds of

(01:10:07):
things that start to stack.

Speaker 8 (01:10:08):
Up absolutely in the employment I know we discussed that earlier.
It's really really important. That's why we have an employment
specialist in each of the twenty judicial circuits. That their
role is specifically designed to help people that are unemployed.
So if a probation officer has somebody that's on supervision
that's not employed, they're refirm to the employment specialist. Those

(01:10:28):
employment specialists do really two things. One help them find
gainful employment in the community. They know the people that
will hire people that are on supervision. But they also
teach them employability skills, how to write resumes, things that
will help them find the job or get the job,
but also tools will help them keep the job. And
I use the word job because ideally the employment specialist

(01:10:50):
helps them with that, but we really like for them
to find a career. If they can find a career,
it once again will mean long term success for them.
But are employment specialists are people that we don't talk
about near enough, but they're probably the most important people
we have in community corrections that aids in the success
of somebody on supervision.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
How big of a factor is transportation.

Speaker 8 (01:11:10):
Big factor, and if you don't have transportation, you really
can't get to some of the resources that you need.
It's extremely important. And then some of our rural areas
we really see how that comes into play with the
people that are in supervision. They live twenty thirty miles
from the probation office, don't have the means to get
to the probation office, then their chances of complying with

(01:11:31):
the terms of supervision are going to be very difficult.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
One of the challenges that I feel like your accomplishing
a degree of success meeting is that challenge of the
probation office and being able to be more mobile bringing
those services to someone on probation. Before we go to
our next segment, just briefly set up what a re

(01:11:58):
entry vehicle is.

Speaker 8 (01:12:00):
We have what we call mobile probation units and mobile
reentry units. It started off with a mobile probation unit,
which is essentially it looks like a bloodmobile. It's twenty
seven foot long and it's an automobile that we take
out in the community for people that live in the
rural areas. That gives them the opportunity to report to
the probation officer and those buses are set up just

(01:12:21):
like it would be in a probation office. What I
mean by that is the officers that are on the
buses have access to do perform any mission critical activity
that they would perform in the probation office, whether it's
taking their supervision report, going over the conditions of supervision,
transferring their probation, placing them on GPS, or even conducting
a drug test on them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
We're going to talk a little bit more about that
and some of the movement that's happening in that area.
Sixteen past the hour Joe Winkler with me, Assistant Secretary
of Community Corrections with the Sunshine State Department of Corrections.
More to come here on the Morning Show Final segment

(01:13:10):
this morning with Joe Winkler, Assistant Secretary of Community Corrections,
Department of Corrections. Joe, you touched on something I told
you in the break. Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
A probation A probation unit. What a mobile probation thing? Okay,
so you informed me about that. I didn't know about that.
I knew about the mobile re entry unit. Distinguish the
two and explain what the purpose of the reentry unit is.

Speaker 8 (01:13:32):
Sure will yep. And both of them are set up
the same way. The mobile probation unit, that was the
first one that we rolled out in the community, and
that was with the work of the Palm Beach County
Commission MacArthur Foundation. We set that one on the streets
on January of twenty twenty three. As I mentioned, it's
just like a bloodmobile. We take it to the rural communities.
We do have mechanisms to relay the information to the

(01:13:54):
people that we supervise through some QR codes, some phone
numbers they can call in communication with the probation officers.
Shortly after we rolled that one out, we rolled one
out in Sarasota County and we had worked with Forensic
Foundation on that and both those buses were designed to
do the same thing, provide a reporting mechanism to renew
one more barrier for people that are on supervision that

(01:14:16):
live in these rural areas to report to the probation office.
And through the work of the Florida Foundation support and
work of the Florida Foundation for Correctional Excellence, we're able
to purchase a mobile reinjury unit. Once again, it's set
up very similar, but one of the differences is we
have rooms on the mobile reinjury unit that are designed

(01:14:37):
to do a one on one evaluation. So if somebody
wants to as a substance abuse problem or has an
issue that involves treatment, then at that point they can
do that one on one evaluation right there in that room.
Then as they leave that room, the bus opens up
to a big room where they can do group sessions
for either treatment or some kind of life skills class

(01:14:58):
in that mobile reinentury unit. We now in Daytona, and
we're going to rule our next mobile probation unit out
in the fifth Judicial Circuit, which encompasses five different counties.
The biggest ones are married in Lake County. And the
reason we are able to purchase that mobile probation unit
is because we have another program called the First Step Program,
and it's not in every area of the state, but

(01:15:19):
through that program, people that are placed on supervision pay
one dollar a month towards their supervision, but it goes
to the First Step Foundation. And over in Circuit five,
who has the longest, one of the longest running First
Step foundations, they had enough money to purchase a mobile
probation unit that we're going to put in the streets
in the spring of next year. It's going to be
a game changer there because you can imagine when you

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talk about Marion County, Lake County Sumter, there's a lot
of rural areas out there. I think it's really going
to help remove one of those barriers that we talked about,
and that is failing to report.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
It's bringing the services the office in essence to the
areas where so many of these men and women are
living and working. You got it.

Speaker 8 (01:16:00):
And the premise behind the very first one was that
the Palm Beach County Jail had a lot of jail overcrowding.
When they looked at some of the reasons for it,
one of the reasons was for violation of probation, but
more specifically violation of probation for a failing to report
to the probation office. And that was the premise behind
the very first one. Go ahead and take the probation
office to the community, see if it works. And it

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sure enough has work. We reduced the number of technical
violations by twenty seven percent in Palm Beach County because
of the mobile probation unit.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
That's a huge win, huge win. How many of these
break those two vehicles down. Ideally, if you look across
the state, how many probation vehicles do you want? How
many reentry vehicles do you want?

Speaker 8 (01:16:42):
Well, ideally we would love to have at least one
in each the twenty judicial circuits. If we had more
than that, that would be great, But right now, I
guess an attainable goal would be to have one in
each of the twenty judicial circuits. That way they can
provide those services in the mobile probation units or the
mobile reentry units. Whichever one we had would still satisfy

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a lot of the barriers, a lot of needs we
have for the barriers that are that are for people
that are on supervision.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Do existing staff members man those vehicles or is that
additional staff that you're able to bring on board?

Speaker 8 (01:17:15):
It's additional. It's our current staff that we have on there.
Generally we have about five people that manned the probation
buses and we have three workstations set up. But it
doesn't take any additional staff. It's the existing probation officers
that we have.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
What's the biggest takeaway you want for folks? If you
know people listening are going to fall into a couple
of categories. There's the general public and then there are
business owners out there well that this is.

Speaker 8 (01:17:40):
A novel approach to supervision, and we're always looking at
new ways that we can be innovative so we can
provide those resources. So just to know that if there's
an idea out there that can help support what we do,
we're always willing to listen, or if somebody wants to
help the cause. When it comes to the probation units,
we're always out there too, willing to asst and we'll

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take as many of them as we can possibly get
because it does provide an excellent service to the community.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
I appreciate what you're doing. I've gotten to know the
details of the work that you're doing in the Community's
Joe and how the Secretary, Ricky Dixon, is focused on
this component of making sure we do as good a
job as possible to not have these men and women
return to prison. And so thank you for all that

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you're doing, thank.

Speaker 8 (01:18:29):
You for having me, and thank you for the Secretary
for supporting this and then all school Erica Aberron, the
executive director of the Florida Foundation for Correctional Excellence. It
wasn't for her listening to some of the things that
we needed in probation. We would have never got the
mobile reinjury unit. You did a great job teeing up
my next guest. We're going to have Eric on this
program at some point soon. Thanks for making time.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Thank you. Joe Winkler with the Department of Corrections. He
is Assistant Secretary of Community Corrections. My guest, twenty seven
past the hour.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
It's the Morning Show with Preston Scott on news Radio
one hundred point seven WFLA, thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Six minutes past the hour. Of course, big story in
the press box the charges against the shooter of Charlie Kirk,
the assassin. He is facing aggravated charges of murder and
so forth. So he is facing the death penalty. It
is appropriate. We shared last hour of the text exchange

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and and I thought that it pretty much is the case.
Now there's there's there's all kinds of other evidence. Uh,

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the evidence against this young man is ironclad. It is
it is. You know, he he made the case. How
in the world he ever thought that if he had
just grabbed that rifle it would have been over is
beyond me. In listening to the text exchange, and reading

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the text exchange, I should say, it occurs to me
that more than likely his roommate, i e. His romantic
interest was not aware that he did not know that
this young man was going to kill Charlie Kirk. And

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so those charges have been announced. He's not going to
be back in court again for twelve days. And you've
got the efforts on the left to just reframe this
in some form or fashion. I mean that Jimmy Kimmel
is trying to suggest that somebody with the MAGA movement
did this. I don't. And I think this is where

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you know, the Bible says very clearly and if you
have a problem with somebody, you go to them, and
if they don't respond appropriately, you go to them with
another person, and if they don't respond after that, you
have nothing to do with them. As needed, they are

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put out of the church. I think that there's a
there's a a process there. Why would anybody watch and
listen to Jimmy Kimmel that, I mean, you don't even
have to love Jesus to know this is just wrong.

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Reporter for CBS. You know, the shooter is really tender
hearted guy. I mean, he can't help, but be moved
by his interactions and his concern for his his uh,
his roommate, who is his his romantic partner. It's excuse me,

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we're going to lift up his virtues. One of the
things this guy said to justify his actions, I've had
enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.
Who in their right mind does not equate the hate,

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the amplified hatred required to kill another person for the words,
the thoughts, the philosophies of somebody else. How do you
not see? Wait? Wait, wait, wait, wait? What am I thinking?

(01:23:46):
People that are mentally ill, people that have surrendered themselves
to a demonic view of life. That it's and Satan's laughing.
This guy's gonna lose his life, and he took a life.

(01:24:07):
This is brilliant. Came across a column. Lead research assistant
of the program shared it with me. It's from Reason
dot com and it's written by Robbie Sove, who writes,
Charlie Kirk would not have wanted this. A vast cancel

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culture campaign is a poor way to honor his legacy.
We're gonna talk about that next forty one minutes past
the hour here in the morning, Show with Preston's Guy.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
Ride him at Preston at iHeartRadio dot com. Yes, he
knows how to read well, actually, his producer reads him.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
He doesn't know how to read. It's the Morning Show
with Preston Scott. In this column Reason dot Com, Charlie

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Kirk would not have wanted this, and it's a reference
to the vast cancel culture campaign. He makes some distinctions,
but he doesn't make them and differentiate them enough, and

(01:25:32):
I don't think it's warranted. In this column, Robbie does
correctly point out, Yes, it's true, there's a difference between
canceling someone for welcoming the death of Kirk and canceling
someone for tweeting something homophobic when they were fourteen years
of age. There's a difference, agreed. There's also a big

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difference between canceling someone for justifying violence against Kirk and
canceling someone who merely objects to his views, behavior, and
political project. Furthermore, there's a major difference between canceling someone
in a public facing communications role in canceling someone who
is otherwise obscure. And this is where I disagree. See

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he correctly says there's a difference here. He thinks it's
going too far to cancel people that are not public
facing figures, teachers and the like, and makes the argument that, well,

(01:26:48):
if you don't like your teacher saying and posting things
like this on their social media account, you have the
ultimate choice. You can pull your kid from class. Yeah,
but in a public education environment for men, it's not
that simple. And you see, this is the issue. This
isn't about canceling someone for their political views. This is

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about saying, a person who celebrates the murder of somebody else,
I don't want working for me. I don't want to
interact with them. I don't trust them with my customers.
I don't trust them with understanding the value of life.

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Someone who celebrates the murder of a person who in
no way, shape or form was violent, who went on
the turf of college campuses and simply held debates. And
so I think Charlie would have wanted what's going on

(01:27:55):
when it comes to people celebrating the murder and death
of others. The right of an employer to say I
don't want you to work for me, you don't represent me.
And that's where this whole idea of Look, you can
say anything, but there are not There are not protections
against the repercussions. You can say fire in a movie theater,

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but you'll be arrested. But you can say it. You
can say it, but you will be arrested. Lesson. Free
speech has consequences. If you're willing to pay for those consequences,
so be it. If you are willing to lose your
job over it. And we're seeing example after example after example,

(01:28:46):
because it would appear that once again most mainstream people
don't think it's okay to exalt the murder and assassination
of somebody, period. There are some on the extreme left

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that are literally throwing parties. There are others on the
left that are horrified by what the extreme left is doing.
And there's the real problem. The left is scared of
the extreme left. That's the problem. The left has a

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problem here. We'll talk more on that in the coming days.
But as for Charlie Kirk would not have wanted this, well,
Charlie Kirk would have absolutely said no, there's consequences to
your speech. This isn't a difference of opinion, this is celebrated.

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This is revealing a moral character or lack thereof, of
the person posting, and this says to me, for example,
why would I want a doctor who's celebrating the murder
of somebody. Why would I want my child taught by
a teacher celebrating the assassination of somebody who merely went

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to college campuses and espoused ideas. Why would I want
my kid taught by that person. So I'm just fine
with some of these people losing their jobs. It's okay.
Forty eight minutes after the album, the serial Guinness World

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Record breaker David Rush has done it again. He holds
the most concurrent Guinness World Record titles at one eighty one.
He currently holds one hundred and eighty one Guinness World Records.
He took some time during an ocean cruise to break

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one of his own records. He was on the Disney
Wonder Cruise ship somewhere in the North Atlantic, and he
decided he would break the record for the most table
tennis balls bounced against the wall with the mouth in
thirty seconds. So what that involves is, and I watched

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him do it. The table tennis ball, the ping pong
ball goes into the mouth and is spit back out
against the wall, back and forth, back and forth, back
and forth, back and forth. First, that requires an incredible
amount of eye coordination, I mouth coordination. How many times

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do you think he did in thirty seconds? What do
you think? What do you think he did? One hundred
and fifty in thirty seconds? Five times a second. I
can't even do that second five times a second, fifty

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one times.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
There's your record, brought to you by Barono Heating and Air.
It's the morning show on WFLA.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
I'm in this really weird place, friends, and I think
a lot of you are right there with me. I
do not want to talk stop talking about Charlie Kirk,
but I want to talk about other things. Do you

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know what I mean? There's a part of me that
feels an obligation to keep talking about Charlie and what
happened and what the left is doing in reaction to it. Yeah, sorry,
the left. Sorry. So if you're inclined to pray, pray

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for me as I pray for wisdom. I may not
do this whole thing right In response to this, I'm
navigating this the best I possibly can. Tomorrow, the Lieutenant
Governor J. Collins joins US Steve Stewart pause for thought.
Road trip suggestion We're going to try to be a
little normal tomorrow, but yeah, never, no, be blessed,