Ep. 5471: Trump and team free the hostages and bring peace, how long will it last?

This is the full episode of The Morning Show with Preston Scott for Monday, October 13th.

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- Paul Renner
- Dr. Joe Camps
- Ira Schoffel
- Mat Staver 


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And the good morning to you friends. Monday, October the thirteenth,
here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. I am Preston,
he is ose. It is Show fifty four seventy one,
and what a what a beautiful weekend of weather. The
football didn't go the way we wanted on Saturday here

(00:21):
in town. But it's all right, hang on second, we
all right. I had my phone on the other side
of the countertop here and my devotional standing by it's
Ephesians one, verse seven. It's so you know, it's so
fun about reading God's word. Besides the obvious is that,

(00:45):
for whatever reason, my wife and I were talking about
this on the way to church Sunday morning. She said,
did you ever And I was like, it never occurred
to me. And you read scripture and something pops up.
It's been there for a few thousand years, depending on

(01:09):
whether you're talking Old Testament or New you know you're
still talking thousands, but it's still it's a matter of
how many. And you can read it fifty times and
all of a sudden, as happened to me here ready
Ephesians won seven in him we have redemption through his blood.

(01:31):
The forgiveness of our trespasses according to the riches of
His Grace. And and I read out of the ESV
for the most part. You know, I've I've studied, I'll
grab Each translation has its strengths and weaknesses. When I

(01:52):
merge it altogether, ESV is a really good, solid translation
and my favorite to use, being the most linguistically accurate
and at the same time contemporary to our language without
being woke.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
All.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Right, Riches of his grace, that term riches of his grace.
Someone who's rich has what a lot of money?

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Rich is a term that describes bounty a lot, And
it just jumped out at me. According to the riches
of his Grace that God's grace is literally boundless, and

(02:56):
we have redemption through His blood and giveness of our
sins according to the wealth of his Grace. Yeah, that works.
Ten past the hour. Let's get rolling. It is Monday.
Here on The Morning Show with Preston Scott. The Morning

(03:21):
Show with Preston Scott. Now we may do a little
jipping here this morning. GYP is a broadcast term an
acronym standing for join in progress. President of the United

(03:45):
States is, along with most of his Cabinet at the
Knesset in Jerusalem, and the twenty hostages have been released,
the twenty living hostages. There's a lot happening there, and

(04:09):
so if the President makes remarks, as I mean, as
risky as that may be, we might listen into a
little bit of it live. It is. It's a little
after one o'clock in Jerusalem. They've got a seven hour
head start on our day. And so something for you
for time change purposes. Today is the thirteenth of October.

(04:33):
It is. It is the birth of the Navy. It
was on this date in seventeen seventy five the Continental
Congress authorized an American Naval Force. Seventeen ninety two. The
cornerstone of the White House is laid eighteen forty three,
but Ny Breath, the world's oldest Jewish service organization, is

(04:55):
founded in New York City nineteen oh three. Boston Americans
beat the Pittsburgh Pirates three nothing to win the First
World Series, prevailing five games to three, and President Hoover
lays the cornerstone of the Supreme Court Building in nineteen
thirty two. It is also National Train your Brain Day, okay,

(05:19):
National Yorkshire Pudding Day okay. Yorkshire pudding is exactly what
it goes back to immigrants coming from England Yorkshire in fact,
not to be confused with a dessert. It is an
English dish very much like a popover, and so you've

(05:43):
got a batter pudding while meat is roasted in the
oven and you basically slap it all together. It's gravy's traditional,
but you can add cheese, eggs, whatever you know, do
your thing. But today is a savory food Day with

(06:03):
National Yorkshire Pudding Day. It is national no broad Day.
I didn't wear one Columbus Day. Of course, remember the
days you get Columbus Day off. There was a time.
Today's National kick butt Day, as in, yeah, make it happen,

(06:23):
come on, come on. My personal sports team losing streak
ended mercifully yesterday. It has been a crazy drought. Went
to the FSU game Saturday. That was tough. That was
that was tough. Shouldn't have lost that game. We talk

(06:48):
to irishfel about that. Mike Norvelle, I feel bad for him.
He's he's he's in the hot seat. Corey Clark over
at warchand pointed out, I think it's ten there have
been ten losing streaks in the last roughly six decades
of three games or more at Florida State football. Six

(07:10):
of them are owned by coach Norville. Losing streaks of
three games or more I should qualify that. And it
seems as though Fsu struggles writing the ship. I worry
that his style of communication becomes noise because it's very monotone.

(07:37):
And I mean it's like one level, one level of communication.
I don't know. I really like him. I hope he
can pull through this. I just I just don't know.
I worry that they've got to make a change of
quarterback to make it happen. And I think he's such
a good guy. I don't think he wants to do
that to Tommy Castellanos. But this sounds really mean. Tommy's

(08:03):
too short to play quarterback the way that we have
him play.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
It.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Can't have him sit in the pocket. He can't. He's
too little. If you're gonna have him at quarterback, that's fine,
but you got to break him out. You got to
get him outside, you got to get him away from
traffic and do that. But he just makes some confoundingly
good throws at times, and some confoundingly bad throws. At times.
But you just can't have a senior quarterback making those

(08:27):
types of decisions and not getting the job done. You're
better off if you're gonna take some lumps, do it
with a freshman quarterback or a younger quarterback that's gonna
you know, that has a little bit more time in
front of him. But that's for them to decide. But
in the meantime, a great start to the football season
is given way to uh oh feelings in the fan base.

(08:48):
Seventeen past the hour, We're coming back. Yeah, we got
a spicy story next. Yeah, Donald Trump and his team
deserve a lot of credit forgetting where we are.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
We'll at last, we'll see there's some interesting developments in
the Middle East. The hostages have been released. There are
bodies to be returned. I think it's for me personally,
and I'm not you know, I'm not directly a victim
of this in any way, shape or form. It would
be hard for me unless I'm a family member of

(09:32):
one of those hostages to be real celebratory, you know
what I mean. I mean, But anyway, we'll get to that.
We'll talk about that, and I'm sure we'll talk about
it in the days weeks to come. As this piece
maybe in the region takes hold, we'll see there's some hope,

(09:55):
there's also concern. But I came across the story that
I found interesting. Forrest Frank's a young man that has
become very, very popular in the Christian music world. And
we talked about on the show that a year ago,
at maybe it was the Double Awards, which is the
big Christian music award program. He said he was really

(10:21):
he felt odd receiving an award and and he as
the best New Artist or what have you. And and
he's expanded on that, saying, you know, it's just it's
a personal conviction. He said he's been struggling dealing with
getting these rewards for you know, he said, the trophy

(10:42):
is Jesus. You know, this belongs to him. And in fact,
he had said at the awards ceremony, he said, I'm
I'm still struggling with the concept of receiving this award,
but all glory to Jesus. Every name will fade away,

(11:04):
including mine, including yours, but the name of Jesus will
last forever. And then he said, I feel a conviction
to go even a step further. This is what he
recently said, and say, I don't even I don't know
if I even want to step on the stage. I
don't know if I want to step in the room.

(11:24):
And so I've decided to take a stance of non participation.
I hope to be an example to the youth that
our trophy is our salvation. The trophy is my name
listed in the Book of Life and to have eternal life.
What good is a piece of metal going to do
compared to that? Well, apparently Jelly Roll, a guy who

(11:46):
by all accounts loves Jesus and has had a rough
life that he's come out the other side on. Right.
He came out and kind of poked it for his Frank.
He said, won't receive a trophy for something from Jesus
for Jesus, but will take the profits from something from
Jesus for Jesus. Maybe I'm missing something here, lol, And

(12:08):
it's like, brother, yeah, You're missing a lot. And now
the reactions to the comments that he made and Forrest
Frank have made have been on all sides. People taking
shot at Forest Frank. Well, wait, do you see to
see how much he's charging for a hoodie sniff test?
And it's like, you know, to Jelly Roll, I would say,

(12:29):
check yourself, brother, because Forest Frank is earning a living.
He's using what the gifts that he's been given to
spread the message of Christ and to earn a living.
Awards are totally different. And it really it confounded me

(12:55):
that a guy with his seasoned background and I'm going
to extend grace to him because we all deserve it.
That's our that's our you know, that's our message today
right at the beginning of the show from Ephesians one,
is the message of God's eternal grace and his the
riches of his grace. But at the same time, it's like,

(13:16):
come on, now, you got to be better than that.
Don't be taking potshots at a brother in Christ who, oh,
by the way, congratulated you for you know, your awards
and said wait to go, bro, And I mean, you know,
praise be to God. But it's like there's a nuance
here and there is there's a difference between saying, hey,

(13:38):
I'm just and here's the other thing. If you're feeling
conviction because of what Forest Frank has said, brother, own it.
Own the conviction. But Forest Frank is doing what a
lot of people do you know what. I don't drink.
I've never had a drink. It's not because of Jesus.

(14:02):
It's because I've chosen not to. But if I chose to,
it would be a personal conviction. It would be like
saying I don't eat this type of food. It's a
personal conviction. You can do it for me. It's a problem,
you know, for some people one thing is doesn't cause

(14:24):
harm to another person. It's a huge stumbling block. So
it just it. It made me sad, and I would
just caution all of you just take a minute before
you react to something on social media and post stuff
that you should. Twenty eight past the hour, it's come back,
Big Stories in the press Box. Next Ink Show with

(14:48):
Preston Scott. Mother No you wear eth Herdre on News
Radio one hundred point seven WUFLA. All right, we're gonna
we're gonna maybe not stay with this all that long,

(15:08):
but I wanted you to just hear some remarks. Benjamin
Netanyahu is speaking to the Knesset in front of the
with the President of the United States by his side.
He is speaking to his nation. He is addressing the
United States. Let's listen.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
In Ari is an American Israeli who was injured in
Gaza while searching for Hamas terrorists and weapons. Two of
Ari's comments were killed in this action and ten were injured.
Ari was presumed dead but made a miraculous recovery despite

(15:51):
losing three limbs. Ari, stand up for a minute alone.
Stand up there you go, there, Ari, Ari, You are
the spirit of Joshua. You are the spirit of David.
You are the spirit of the Maccabees. You are the

(16:14):
spirit of israel. I. Salute you.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
We all salute you.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Sabin Tasa of Kibutsativasara is watching us today from the
Israeli consulate in Los Angeles. Sabine lost her husband and
her oldest son on October seventh. She is the mother
of three other boys, two of them Cohen and Shai.

(16:59):
Their father jump on a Hamas grenade to save his
two sons. We all saw the film of those two
boys crying out in pain. Father is dead. Why Why
did God save me? Mister President, my friend Donald. I've

(17:26):
seen some very tough things in my life, but I
couldn't bring myself to watch those boys suffering again. So
I didn't see this film except once. It's Sabine. Their
mother has had the strength and fortitude to show this

(17:49):
film across the world. And my wife Sarah, and I
asked her, Sabina, how do you do it?

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Why? Why do you do it?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
And she answered, I do it to show the entire
world the monsters Israel is fighting and the justice of
our cause. This is what she's doing once again in
Los Angeles, s Being you can hear me now, So
I want to tell you on behalf of all of us.
You embody the spirit of our biblical heroines, Debra, Ruth

(18:26):
and Esther, You too are the spirit of Israel, and
we all salute you.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
All right, we'll take a break here. It's the day
that the process really begins. The Hamas has released, as
they said they would, the twenty surviving hostages. There's more
to be said about all this. We'll do that next
twenty minutes away from the top of the hour. It

(18:58):
is Monday. Here on the Morning Show with Brestacott.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
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Speaker 1 (19:15):
Forty one forty two minutes past the hour Benjamin nettan
Yahoo in Israel in Jerusalem, said that they now the
enemies of Israel know the catastrophic error they made in attacking.
And it's interesting because one of the stories I wanted
to talk about here this morning is an interview that

(19:37):
Musa Abu Marzuk, a foreign relations chief for Hamas, co
founder of the terror group. He's on Arab television trying
to justify what Hamas did, saying it fulfilled its national duty,
acted as resistance to occupation, blah blah blah. The host

(19:59):
again an Arab question whether the Hamas attacks helped the
Palestinian cause, if they achieved anything meaningful for Palestinians. The
host asked him, was what you did on October seventh
to lead the Palestinians to liberation. The guy did not

(20:21):
like the question. He bristled, said the question was disrespectful,
and so the journalist said, I'm asking you the questions
that are being asked on the streets of Palestine by
the residence of Gaza. Of course, there is no Palestine,
but that's beside the point. These are your questions. Show

(20:45):
some respect for yourself, said the terrorist. I don't want
to talk to you I don't want to see you
cut it out, cut it out, go to hell. Arab
commentators now are pointing out that there appears to be
a rift developing in Hamas, and that's good. Apparently this

(21:06):
guy expressed regret, telling The New York Times he would
not have supported if he'd have known the havoc it
would wreak on Gaza. That just speaks to how just
utterly dumb they are. What did you think was gonna happen? Sport?

(21:29):
You attacked a bunch of civilians. It wasn't an act
of war. This is you know, whatever you want to
say about Israel's conduct as a neighbor, look at what
Israel endures every single day. And this guy's by many accounts,

(21:51):
a billionaire. So ask yourself this, How does a man
committed to the Palestine and seeing improvement for his people
and a founder of a terrorist organization, how does one

(22:11):
in that position become a billionaire? How does that happen?
It happens by confiscating aid. It happens by taking money
being funneled in from places like Iran and taking his cut.

(22:35):
And then there are stories right now of violence in Gaza,
And at first I thought well, here we go. It's
not with Israel. Gazans are rising up against Hamas. See
if good people are armed, that's what these terrorists have

(23:00):
have to rely on. They have to rely on an
unarmed citizenry. That's how they wage their terror on their
own domestically. Is they control them through violence, through weapons
and the intimidation that comes along with it. So that

(23:23):
you know, the the big victory here is Trump put
pressure on all the nations supporting Amas, and I doubt
that Trump's gonna share the credit, but I've got to
believe a ton of it has to go to Marc Rubio,
Secretary of State. So is this the beginning of the

(23:51):
end of a mass I don't know. You know, will
there there will always be people that want to see
Israel erased. There will always be Islamic extremists that it
just they will They will exist, So we'll have to
wait and see. Forty six minutes past the hour, so
much to talk about GOP candidate Paul Renner. At the

(24:12):
top of the hour. This is the Morning Show with
Preston Scott. The show is kind of rewriting itself as
we go because of what's happening. The remarks in Israel
and the story of the Middle East. There are some
other stories and of course the big stories in the

(24:34):
press box this morning. Just rearranging things just a bit
here today on the program. President of the United States
has directed the Defense Department to use all available funds
to make sure troops are paid. The money is available,
it's just in other parts of the budget. It's okay,

(24:56):
the Defense Department has this much money for these things,
and the President's saying, reallocate that money, pay the people,
and then when Democrats come to their senses and we
get funding back, we'll put that money back in those accounts.
Congressional Budget Office says, yeah, this is doable. It removes

(25:20):
a bit of a lever that Democrats thought they had. Obviously,
there's an entire federal workforce here that's facing, you know,
not getting paid and that it's not going to help things.
Doesn't help the economy. When people aren't paid, they can't

(25:40):
they can't buy groceries, they can't they can't do a
lot of things. There is no discretional income. The US
sending about two hundred troops to Israel to help support
and monitor the ceasefire with Gaza I don't have a
problem with that. US sent Command is Central Command is
is sending about two hundred troops helped facilitate the flow

(26:06):
of humanitarian aid, logistical security assistants. Yeah, it makes sense.
The other big story that I thought was worth noting
is you know Dominion voting systems, big source of controversy
in the last several elections. It has now been bought

(26:26):
and it has been sold to Liberty Vote Chairman Scott
Lynendecker Lion Decker. He is the sole owner of Dominion. Now.
The deal was contingent on dropping several lawsuits against prominent
conservatives and one American news out network among those being

(26:49):
sued by Dominion, where Mike Lindell, My Pillow, Rudy Giuliani,
Sidney Powell, who I've had on this program before. All
those have to be dropped, all those lawsuits have to
be dropped. And now Liberty Vote is taken over Dominion.

(27:13):
And he said that at it'll be American owned, American built,
and independently audited by Americans. Four Americans, one percent, nothing overseas.
He said, we won't ask for trust, We'll earn it,
and we will prove it. Step in the right direction

(27:37):
that is a huge development. A couple other stories. The
arson suspect in the Palisades fire. He's a he's a
Trump hater, he supported Biden and Harris. He's a climate
change activist. He's also apparently has a fetish with the

(27:58):
Joker in the Batman movies, as he's posted videos of
himself and pictures of himself a dressed as the Joker. Again.
How he's not facing murder charges, I don't know, but
he was. He recorded video of the fire, called police

(28:21):
to report it, later returned to watch the firefighters battle
the flames, and then as a coward, moved back to Florida.
He was arrested in I think Melbourne, but he was
arrested here in Florida. He left as soon as the
shortly after the fires, got as far away from California
as he could. I guess he thought he could get

(28:42):
away with it. Didn't work out so well, but again
another leftist. All right, we've got Paul Renner, former Speaker
of the House and the Florida Legislature candidate for governor,
joining us next. Hur Ruminators Welcome. It's the second Hour

(29:15):
here Monday on the Morning Show, October thirteenth, it is
show four and seventy one. He is Jose. I am Preston.
Great to be with you as always. Thanks for sharing time,
whether you are listening to us on old fashion radio
or on that new thing called your smartphone, or your
laptop or desktop via iHeartRadio. We appreciate you joining us

(29:39):
and we are thrilled to have with us once again.
He's the former Speaker of the House of Representatives for
the Sunshine State. He is a US Navy veteran and
running for governor. He is Paul Renn. Paul, good to
have you back on the show. How are you, sir?

Speaker 6 (29:52):
Great to be here, Preston. Good morning.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Tell me how's the fundraising going since you made the announcement?

Speaker 6 (29:58):
Not too bad? Two point seven million in the first
thirty five days. So even a challenged math guy like
me can figure out that math.

Speaker 7 (30:06):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
What's resonating, Paul? What aspect of your message do you
find making the biggest, biggest impact for you?

Speaker 6 (30:17):
Well, people want to know what's going to happen after
Governor de Santus leaves, and he's been a leader and
people feel like maybe we're going to slip back, and
so they want somebody with a lot of leadership background.
They hear that I was in the military twenty years,
served in two wars, was a state attorney, fighting for victims,
fighting against violent offenders, and a successful two years a speaker.

(30:38):
People want results. They want the same kind of results
they had with the governor, and in those two years,
we had a very conservative and consequential two years, as
you know, and people want to keep pushing forward, and
they look at me and say, this is the guy
that can logically do that.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
When you look at the issues that are kind of
laying out in front of whoever the next governor is,
is what what's number one?

Speaker 6 (31:02):
Well, affordability, I think is what I hear from everybody.
You know, everything's more expensive, and there's things government can
fix or help to fix, and there's things we can't.
In many cases, government's the problem. And in DC they've
printed money, borrowed money over and over again. They can't
even get a budget passed. You know, in Florida, we
balance our budget, We've had record tax relief, we had
money to give back to the people who paid it,

(31:23):
and we paid down debt early in advance. I mean,
nobody's ever going to confuse us for the federal government.
I can tell you that. And we don't do shutdowns either.
So we are just very, very different. And people want,
you know, government to not overspend so that they can
have more in their pocket. And I think fundamentally to
this question of affordability is government should do less so

(31:44):
we can keep more, and government shouldn't grow faster than
our pocketbooks allow. So if government's growing by fifty percent,
you know, and our wages are going by ten percent
or fifteen percent, that's a problem and that's where people are.
You know.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
One of the things I've commented on for a long
time doing this program, Paul, is that Florida is a model.
It proves first of all, the value of a balanced
budget amendment, that there's a constitutional mandate to get the
budget right here in Florida. And secondly, it's a consumption
tax state. There is no personal income as taxes you
well know, and those two things by themselves really can

(32:21):
speak to the nation on how to better run an
efficient government effectively.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
And the very first thing I did in my second
year a speaker, which is unusual. You usually don't hear
bills on opening day it's a lot of pomp and circumstance.
Everybody has their flowers on their desk and so forth.
We passed a request and put Florida on the record
as a state that wanted to see the US Congress
at not them a Convention of States pass a balanced

(32:51):
budget amendment to the Constitution as well as the line
item veto. I think you've seen how the governor and
I as governor, would be very careful to make sure
we don't have any waste in our budget. It happens
in the budgeting process, and to give the president that
power as well. But a balance budget, you're right, Listen,
Republicans like to spend money too. We see that in Washington, DC.

(33:11):
They can't help themselves and so having that discipline in
the Constitution is critical.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Joining us on the program is the former Speaker of
the House, Paul Renner. Paul stand by, we're going to
come back. We've got another segment to go. He is
running for governor and the GOP field is starting to
take shape. The field in general is massive, the number
of people that have put their names out there. But
we're going to focus in on the GOP side of things.

(33:39):
Ten past the hour, look at weather and traffic now
on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. For the rest,
we're your Morning show, The Morning Show with Preston Scott,

(34:00):
and we're back eleven past the hour with Paul Renner
running for governor. You can go to the website vote
Renner dot com. If you'd like to get involved with
a campaign, donate some cash. Again, it's vote Renterer dot com.
I always encourage you don't give to the party. I
can't stand the Republican Party because they still haven't figured

(34:21):
out how to message, and I've been in I've had
a beef with them for most of my adult life
since becoming a Republican in nineteen seventy eight. But if
you want to support a candidate, you can do that
directly and again, vote Renner dot com. Paul. Obviously, we've
got the affordability issue, and it spills into a whole
lot of things. It covers housing and defining what affordable

(34:45):
housing is is always going to be a bit of
a challenge, but it also really spills into the healthcare industry.
We've talked at nauseum on this program about Obamacare. How
much impact can we negate of Obamacare while it remains
in effect.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
Well, here's the problem is it's the rotten trunk on
the tree. And so people are talking now in the
Republican Party about you know, working with Obamacare, you know,
afforming it. You know, basically it's going to be a
continuation of the subsidies you saw under Biden. Because it
just doesn't work. And so I'm still of the mind
that we need to repeal it. We need to replace

(35:26):
it with something that's free market based. Because you've seen
everything go up since Obamacare. Deductibles, copays are up, coverage
is no better, and so it has not brought down
rates as it promised to do. You were not able
to keep your doctor if you wanted it, as you
were promised to do, and so over and over again.
The promises were not truthful. I think they knew that

(35:49):
going in. But it was a path to socialized medicine,
a path a single payer if you look at you know,
cost for dental care, for example, less regulated by the government,
much more reasonable cost relative to medical care. We've got
to do that. We've got to make sure we have
a free market, more free market approach to healthcare. And
then the other thing we also need to focus on wellness,

(36:10):
and I'll do that as governor. Is make sure you know,
we're not feeding really bad stuff to our kids where
they become obese, where they have a lifetime of health issues.
And it's true for adults too. We want to live healthier,
longer lives and so that can also help us bring
down costs.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Tell me your thoughts on how we kind of broaden
the marketplace. You know, there's talk of, you know, you
need to allow competition in the healthcare field, and that
has got to bring, you know, more of a free
market approach to it, which is allowing people outside of
Florida to compete in Florida if they want to.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
I was a big proponent and file bills past bills
for shared savings. And the way that works is we're
not talking about you're in an ambulance and going in
the emergency room. But if if it's a surgery like
knee surgery, hit surgery, you schedule out, there is an
incredible cost differential depending on where you park your car.
Take an MRI. It's the same MRI machine, yet there's

(37:10):
a big difference between what you pay at one location
versus the other. And so we said, Okay, let's let
patients capture some of that savings. That's what the shared
savings means, and so that they go somewhere that's just
as good and they save a little bit of money.
It puts them in the driver's seat of shopping their
care like we shop an automobile, like we shop a
house or any other big purchase. We give them the

(37:32):
ability to put that money back in their pockets. And
by doing so, it means the high priced providers have
to bring that price down to what's reasonable. And doing
so is a way to introduce the market into healthcare
and start to bring costs down if it's successful, and
we've seen that work at the state level.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Joining us Paul Renner running for governor for the state
of Florida. The GOP nomination comes first.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
Paul.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
A lot of people will say, well, the legislature's never
going to be too friendly to the idea of radical
change because there are just too many attorneys in the legislature.
Your response, well, I am one.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
I'd like to think I'm a good one. I was
a prosecutor, was a business I'm a business attorney. But
and it helps, I think to understand kind of how
the laws are written. But there's a lot of lobbyists
out there. There's a lot of people. What I learned
when people say what are you surprised about, is that
if there's a good idea that's pure common sense, that
seems non controversial, there's somebody somewhere in Tallahassee, just like

(38:30):
Washington in DC, that wants to keep it just the
way it is, even though it's good reform. And so
as speaker, I was proud to really push against that
idea to say, look, I don't care if the whole
lobby core is lobbied up on one side. We're going
to make sure we do what's right for patients as
we just discuss or consumers in the case of insurance reform,

(38:50):
and just go through that process and say, what's good
to bring down costs, what's good for human thriving and
prosperity and these kinds of things when it comes to affordability,
and let's do those things, and you know, let the
special interest to stand on the sideline and.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Fight last question for I know you got to run here,
but I'm curious a new governor is going to come
in with new leadership in the House and the Senate.
Your thoughts on the future leaders on both of those bodies.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
Very very optimistic. We've got two great guys, Jim Boyd
Sam Gearson coming in as presiding officers below. That is
a great group of men and women in the House
and Senate. You know, look, if you look at the
last two years and you see the productivity we have,
We've got a lot of good, strong conservatives. We just
got to bring that band back together and keep pushing
in As governor, will have a bold agenda to address

(39:39):
these issues of affordability and all the other issues that
Florida faces going forward.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Thanks so much for the time today. Look forward to
talking with you again soon. Thanks Preston, appreciate it. Paul
Renner with us this morning, and again you can go
to the website vote Renner dot com if you'd like
to learn more. Seventeen past the hour, I just can't.

(40:15):
I told I was in the break. I just I'd
love to bring President Trump, but I just can't do it.
He just rambles, and he is off the rails already

(40:38):
saying very nice things, of course about his staff and
the process of trying to bring some level of peace
in order to the Middle East. But yeah, there are
some other things that we will we will chat about
here this morning. Several stories you might remember we discussed

(40:59):
last week. Just last week, I think it was the
story of a home invasion in Kentucky in twenty fifteen,
guy named Ronald Exantus broke into a home, stabbed a
little boy to death in his sleep, stabbed other members

(41:19):
of the family, told the daughter that they were all
going to die. And he was found not guilty by
reason of insanity and so as a result, he was
sentenced to a mental health facility. I believe it was

(41:42):
twenty years, but he got released in eight for good behavior.
For good behavior, they just let him go the I
don't know if it was the governor that did the release.
It says in the story that the Kentucky Department of

(42:04):
Corrections released him overriding the parole board recommendation. But he
ended up in Florida, and he's been arrested in Florida
for violation of parole and failing to register as a

(42:24):
convicted convicted felon. It's interesting, you know, you heard that
the White House was looking into this. It makes me
wonder if there was a phone call made to the governor,
and the governor made a call and they started surveilling
and looking for an opportunity to arrest him. It just

(42:47):
seems like that's what happened here. Should he be out,
absolutely not, absolutely not. I don't know how to me.

(43:12):
This isn't about forgiveness. This is about justice. If he
was mentally crazy, fair enough, you treat that, and then
he serves the rest of his time in jail. In
prison twenty years is an insult to the family. I

(43:37):
pointed out to you the comments of the father of
the little boy. He he told Fox fifty six, he
told my daughter that he was going to kill every
one of us. So now I've got to be on
extra guard to protect my kids because I will not

(43:59):
lose another one. I've had my talks with God, because
I'm not afraid to tell you all. I told the court,
if I ever cross paths with him, I will kill
the man. I will kill the man where he stands,
And if that happens, this will be the responsibility of

(44:21):
the state of Kentucky and the governor or the Department
of Corrections, or wherever made the decision to release him.
You don't get a do over on a crime like that.
No matter the reason, it doesn't matter. Oh he was
hopped up on drugs. Oh he doesn't know right. Well,
if he doesn't know right from wrong, if he's criminally insane,

(44:42):
what you just fix that in eight years. I don't
believe that. I just don't do. I think God can
do anything, Yeah, I do, But I don't think God
wants him out on the streets either. I think God's
response would be, Okay, I'm gonna heal this guy's mental illness.
He'll be aware of the crime he committed, and he'll

(45:04):
spend a lot of time thinking about things in prison.
We'll pause there. There's more stories, but we'll take a
pause there. We got the big stories in the press
box coming up, Doctor Joe Camps coming up. We'll talk
to Iris Chafell, Matt Staver in the third hour with
Liberty Council. Busy Show Monday on The Morning Show with

(45:25):
Preston Scott.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
Yeah to subscribe to the Conversations with Preston Scott podcast
on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome to the Morning Show with
Preston Scott.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
All Right, big stories in the press Box time in
advance of Doctor Joe Camps. President Trump has said, you
gotta find a way to pay the troops. He has
ordered the Defense Department to use quote all available funds
to ensure that US troops are paid Wednesday on the
fifth teat despite the government shutdown. A government shutdown should

(46:04):
never ever, ever, ever, never, ever, ever ever ever include
the military. Sorry, it just shouldn't. I no disrespect to
all you federal employees, but the fact of the matter

(46:24):
is we have to have the defense. There are a
few things that we have gotten ourselves in a bind
over that we've got to keep funded. But uh, look this,
this to me exposes the overgrowth of government. And you know,

(46:47):
it's it's it's interesting. I we came home Friday from
our our We spend a little time together on Friday,
and just kind of a thing my wife and I do,
enjoying catching up on the week, even though we see
each other each and every day obviously, and and you know,
she she's able to work largely from home and and

(47:08):
I'm home for much of my day and and so
you know, we're always in each other's space. But but
she said, boy, the the azaleas are are really is
it been that dry? Yeah, it's that dry. And you know,
there's there's things you have to keep watered. There's there's
other things that well, if you lose a plant here

(47:30):
or there because it doesn't get watered, it's not the
end of the world. You keep watered. What you have
to keep watered. To me, government, there are things that
if it if it trivels up and dies, I'm okay.
I mean, I'm really just fine with a lot of
government being being withered. And see this, this gets to

(47:55):
you know, if I were the president of the United States,
I would be asking Congress for or and determine if
I need Congress's permission to have a shutdown plan. If
government closes down. These are the areas that will immediately
no longer get money. And those are the areas of
government you don't need to have funded because they don't

(48:17):
need to exist. And everybody else and oh, by the way,
you don't have to pay Congress. Congress should never be
getting a paycheck during these things ever, not in a
thousand years. But the president should have the ability to
say these things are untouchable. They will be funded period.

(48:40):
End this This is where the flow of money starts
to be cut off. We're gonna start with these agencies.
That's what I think. We're gonna send a couple hundred
troops to Israel to ensure the ceasefire deal is followed.
Presidents speak right now, Yes, still the Kanesset. It's about

(49:05):
two forty in the afternoon there. This is an opportunity
for what we'll see. I still am not certain of
the longevity of this deal, but we'll see. Right now,
Hamas is showing signs of fracture, and that's a very
good thing. It's a very good thing. A Republican has

(49:27):
bought Dominion Voting Systems as part of the deal. He
forced Dominion to drop lawsuits against a bunch of Conservatives,
including Mike Lindell, Rudy Giuliani, Sidney POWELLNN, which is the
one America news network. Dominion had successfully sued Fox Fox

(49:50):
unfortunately settled it shouldn't have. But now Dominion Voting Systems
is owned by the chairman of Liberty Vote. He said,
this is is going to be a one American owned, operated,
and technology driven company. We're getting no technology outside this country, none,
period end. That's a win. Forty minutes past the hour,

(50:13):
come back, Doctor Joe's standing by on the Morning Show
with Preston.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Scott okays of doing morning drive radio differently, doing it
his way like all Blue Eyes, except he's not one
of the great decomposers.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
It's not six feet under the.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Morning Show with Preston Scott forty one minutes past the hour.
It's The Morning Show with Preston Scott. Good to be
with you this morning. We're joined by doctor Joe Campcil.
Healthy expectation. Come on in, sir, how are you?

Speaker 3 (50:49):
It's as if we planned this. But I was gonna
talk a little bit about the one big beautiful bill,
and I'm almost afraid to talk about it now. But
you know, the Congress just approved the big beautiful bill.
But one thing that I wanted to just throw out
for just some thought and discussion is that the only

(51:12):
sector that I really see potentially being affected by this
will be our older adults, Our Medicare patients. You know,
there are millions of them, and boy, I cannot believe
that I'm on Medicare, but uh, you know the price
of pharmaceuticals, you know, cancer drugs, multiple my alma treatments,

(51:33):
these types of things. Nursing home services certainly could be
affected by this, and the bill is going to reduce
fundings for hospitals. Now, I don't want to talk about
major healthcare systems, but in the rural community UH and
as you know, here in the Big Band region, we

(51:54):
have some of the poors UH and smallest hospital in
the chain, and it's going to bring tremendous strain on
them if they lose their Medicare payment systems. And there
are certain structures that's pretty complicated in services that are
paid to hospitals to keep their access open. And that's

(52:18):
what I'm talking about, is access. I have no idea
or no problems with cuts, it's just in critical areas.
I think we need to be forthrighting our thinking there.
And certainly this is going to produce a major shift
in our healthcare delivery. And so as you begin to

(52:39):
look at this, be cognizant that people right around us
existing counties, in their hospital systems, a lot of them
are closing up. And unfortunately a lot of private practice
outlets and physicians sometimes will no longer accept Medicare. So
the only way you get a service there is you

(52:59):
pay them bill and then you try and collect. So
it's going to be a real challenge for our older adults,
and I having worked in this business a long time,
I've seen what some cuts in some areas can do
for our hospital access. Now, person, I hope you know

(53:19):
what I mean by access, being able to go to
the emergency room and get some access to healthcare. I
think it's going to be challenged. But have no problems
with conservative ideas about saving money, but I think there's
some thought that needs to be put into it by
our leadership so that we don't infect some of the

(53:41):
people we love the both. So that's my spill, and
I know you're always open for discussion regarding matters such
as it's stickly when it comes to the government.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Well, you know, I'll tell you why, Joe, Because in
this particular case, I think terminology matters, and I think that,
for example, every single person has access to healthcare going
in the emergency room by law, they can't turn them down. Now,
what happens after that is certainly an issue that we
have to do better at.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Well, yeah, you know, but but I will tell you
that lots of hospitals are starting to limit their services,
particularly you know, obstetrics, and so it's going to be
be tough. I agree you cannot be turned away if
you go to the hospital, but what happens to you
when you're discharged? And yeah, that's that I'm you know,

(54:35):
I'm a little hesitant about that, you know. So I
think there's going to be certain people affected, but we'll
wait and see. I'm just hoping that we find the
way forward so that we can provide at least some
degree of access to to all of our citizens. So
that's my only concerned Preston.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Thank you, doctor Camps. Appreciate the time today, my friend.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
You have a good week pressent. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
You do the same doctor Joe Camps with us. I
think the state up in the right direction here is
get rid of Obamacare. As Paul Renner talked about in
the last half hour, you got to get competition into
the marketplace. That's the only way price has become controllable.
If if not go down. Forty six minutes past the

(55:19):
hour still to come, Irishafelle will talk a little FSU football. Yes,
a lot of angry people out there. We've also got
Matt Staver coming up an hour from now from Liberty
Council here on the Morning Show. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
It's the Morning Show with Preston Scott on NewsRadio one
hundred point seven Double UFLA or on NewsRadio double UFLA
Panama City dot Com.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Okay, this story is pretty crazy. We're in Texas. Forty
one year old Cecilia Simpson their daughter were shopping Tuesday afternoon.
She held the door open for a twenty two year

(56:27):
old young lady named Keona Hampton at a five blow store.
The young lady, which is somewhat commonplace, did not say
thank you, a common courtesy, right, hey, thank you very much.

(56:49):
I mean, you know, an older woman, although just forty one,
still older, holding a door for younger. Maybe she had
stuff in her hands. Anyway, she never said thank you,
and that upset the lady, so she said something to
her triggered an argument. The lady and her daughter got

(57:12):
in the car and just drove off to another store,
but the younger lady, who had the door held for her,
she wasn't done, so she followed them, and then it
continued in the same shopping plaza in front of a
different store of Pet Smart, and it got physical, and

(57:38):
the young lady then pulled a gun out and shot
the woman three times and killed her. Because that's what
you do. Of course. So a woman gets into an
argument over a young lady not saying thank you, and

(57:59):
she drove off. It's like whatever, and she's off on
you know what I mean, It's like, yeah, whatever. I
wouldn't have gotten into a fight over it. But the
bottom line is she drove away. But the young girl
was not going to have that because she probably felt dissed, disrespected.

(58:20):
And of course that's what you always do, right you
just shoot and kill somebody. You got The FSU football
player got shot in the head because a group of kids, youth, ute,
young people. It was mistaken identity. They thought they were

(58:41):
gonna shoot and kill somebody else, because after all, that's
what you do. Then there's this seventeen year old who
apparently had a beef with some guy about something there
following them around, and of course what you do is

(59:03):
you take a gun out and you shoot at another
car at a busy interstate off ramp, and you hit
the guy you're targeting, but you also hit somebody else,
because that's what you do. You know what all these
things have in common, black on black, all of them.

(59:28):
And I'm still one of the few people out there
that's willing to talk about this. I want to know
when the Breakfast Club, when Charlemagne that God is going
to stand up and go over to Chicago and go
to Washington, DC, and go to Memphis and come on

(59:48):
into Tallahassee, and how about going downtown and addressing the
zip codes and addressing the parts of town in all
these communities that are killing themselves. Why is it the
white old man is the only one who cares about
this loss of life. I don't get it. I don't

(01:00:10):
understand it. I don't understand how the black community, how
Barack Obama is and now not all there are many
waking up to it. I've got I've got sound I'm
gonna share in the coming days. There are people that
are saying, what are you what are you talking about?
Officer Tatum's out there saying, you know who who does
these types of things. There are people awakened to this,

(01:00:33):
but not enough. It won't be solved until it fixes itself.
And that's the bottom line. It has to fix itself.

(01:00:55):
If I passed the hour of the Morning Show with
Crest and Scott, it is the third hour. I Preston,
he is Jose and this is the managing editor for
Warchan dot Com. He is Irishafel and Ira. If I
were writing an article, I'd probably title this another Week,
another disappointing performance from FSU defense.

Speaker 7 (01:01:20):
I feel like I've seen something like that before.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Oh darn it, that's right, you wrote that. It's now
we've got a couple of days. Perhaps you've watched the
game again and it was probably worse than you saw
with your own eyes. What are your thoughts now forty
eight hours later?

Speaker 7 (01:01:41):
You know, obviously after that game and really two of
the last three games, you know, most of the focuses
on the defense. You know, I thought that they you know,
we would love what we saw against Alabama, and you know,
I think for much of the Miami game, the top
priority was stopping the running game. They did a good
job of that, so there were some things to like.
But the Virginia game and then this Pick game, we're

(01:02:01):
pretty dreadful from Florida State's defense. Honestly, they looked as
bad and in some ways worse than they did a
year ago. So that's the number one thing. I mean,
the offense wasn't perfect and certainly had some opportunities to
maybe put that game away against Pitt, and they blew
those opportunities. But what the defense has looked like for
the last few weeks is just just pretty awful, and

(01:02:25):
it makes you think that they're going to have a
tough time winning a lot of these games left on
the schedule.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
I was, dare I say, impressed with how Tony White
accepted responsibility he is the defensive coordinator. Is that coach
speak or do you think there's a direct sincerity in
saying no, I've I'm making mistakes and how I'm putting
this scheme together and utilizing it.

Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
I mean, you definitely give him some credit for that,
and it's better than the alternative. You know, we've seen
times in the past where coaches have blamed everything execution,
and you know he could do that to some degree.
But yeah, it just seems like, I don't know, and
this is a small sample size. We've not covered Tony
White for very long. This is six games in, but
it just seems like there's there's huge overreactions to what

(01:03:14):
happens one week to the next. You know, if you
go back to the Virginia game, they couldn't stop the run.
One week later, they stopped the runn against Miami, but
then they give up big plays. Then the next week
against the Pitt it seemed like they were so determined
to not give up big plays that they just sat
back deep in zone coverage and let Pitt take everything underneath,
whether that's eight passes to the running back for one

(01:03:35):
hundred and fifty five yards or the quarterback scrambling for
first downs in a bunch of different situations. So it
just seems like they're they're playing whack a mole. To
some degree, he's fixing one problem, but then that creates
another problem. At sometimes at some point you have to
to be competent in all areas.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
I was at the game Saturday and and I'm gonna
I'm gonna share one overall observation and get your thoughts
to it. And to me, it's on both sides of
the ball. One is when you've got guys that you
know the scheme is dialed up, they've got the quarterback
and inexplicably they leave their the ground and let this

(01:04:14):
big kid just kind of waltz around them and make
a big play. Just not fundamental discipline there. And then
you know a guy who's been great all year, Deuce Robinson,
his personal foul cost us a touchdown because it pushed
that offense back to a first and twenty, and then
we punt deep, it gets blocked and it's a short
field and a quick seven. I just look at undisciplined

(01:04:37):
plays being made by players that should know better.

Speaker 7 (01:04:41):
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of that, and in fact,
I'm touching on it and something I'm about to post
on our website. You know, just a lack of situational awareness.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Yeah, skid from the very.

Speaker 7 (01:04:51):
First drive, you know, the pick goes on. There's three
fourth downs on that drive, the pick goes for and converts,
and on all three of the third down stops, you
have four State players kind of celebrating that they stopped
pit before the first down marker, almost as if like
the drive was over. And it's like, man, it's fourth
and short and it's twenty twenty five, and you're playing

(01:05:11):
a team that has nothing to lose. Once they went
forward on the first fourth down, if they're on thirty
four yard line, yeah, there's a good chance they're gonna
be going forward on the next two for fourth downs
two And it's just, you know, it was kind of
fitting that the game ended with Florida State jumping off
sides when pitch, trying to run out the clock, and
so yeah, they're they're you know, listen, man, it was
a bad football team a year ago and they're trying

(01:05:32):
to learn how to win. But if you're gonna if
you're gonna win these close games, you have to be
smarter than this team has shown.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
We're gonna get back with some really touchy stuff when
we come back. Irish fell with us managing editor. It's
where you need to go to get your info and
intel on all things FSU Athletics. It's war Chant dot
Com back with archand dot COM's Iris cheffelle Ira. I

(01:06:11):
think my my grace for high profile college football players
is now gone because they're paid professionals. These are professional
football players, and the position of quarterback is pretty much
everything with most college football teams as it is in
the pros. Tommy Castellanos can't throw inside the pocket, he's

(01:06:35):
too short. Uh does gust need to do kind of
borrow what you know? I read your column with George Henshaw.
He said, look, if Tommy's my quarterback, I'm he is
no way throwing from the pocket. Ever. Do they have
to make a decision on whether they're going to keep Tommy,
because if you're going to lose football games, you might
as well lose with the future of your program.

Speaker 7 (01:06:57):
Yeah, you know, it's hard to it's hard to put it.
It's hard for me to go there right now. I
was pretty disappointed at him against Miami. I thought he
played better to some degree against against Pitt. Now, if
he's not going to run the ball, and he seemed
to be not willing to run in that game, you know,
and Gus Malsan we asked Tommy about it after the game,

(01:07:18):
he said he's fine. Gus Malesan said, yeah, he got
hurt again basically the first play of the game, and
that limited his ability to run. Well, if he's not
going to run, if he's not going to keep it,
this offense isn't going to go very far, especially when
you don't have some of the receivers that they didn't
have in that game. You know, they had several receivers
out too. So I will say this, if he can't run,

(01:07:39):
then I think you might want to look at going
to somebody else just to kind of open up that
part of the game as well. But I you know,
I don't know. I'm not putting a ton of the
problem in that game on him. I do think Gus
could call the game better for Tommy, but I'm not
ready to say he was the problem on that game.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
So when you look at the offense sort of shooting
itself in the foot sometimes we then so we accept
that the possibility is that Tommy's not not not able
to run the plays, run the offense the way Gus
needs it run. So we're back to that, well do
we do? You know, we saw brock Glenn coming in

(01:08:17):
for a fourth down that never happened. Clearly that was
that was something they were thinking about doing. Do you
think they just needed to do more of that and
get him out there.

Speaker 7 (01:08:28):
Well, whether it's brock Glenn or Kevin Sperry, you know,
I think it looked like maybe they decided they were
going to have to run the quarterback in that situation
and they were kind of out of some of the options.
You know, Randy Pittman, the tight end, has done some
of the wildcat before he was out for that game.
You know, if Tommy didn't if they didn't go, Tommy
could get a big enough push because his ankle's bothering
him whatever it is with his foot, then maybe that's

(01:08:50):
why they brought brock Glenn in that situation. But I
also think Kevin Sperry would be an option. Now, the question,
I guess what we don't the information we don't have
is is are those with those guys turn the ball
over more? You know, Tommy did a better job of
protecting the football in this game. He didn't have the
interceptions he had had the last two games, So you
don't know what you get with those guys from that standpoint.

(01:09:12):
But yeah, running the football is the backbrone of this offense,
and if I was surprised they were able to run
it as well as they could when it was clear
Tommy didn't want to keep it in the second half.
But going forward, if teams realize Tommy's not going to
be willing to keep it because he's not one hundred percent,
then it's going to be much harder to run the football.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
If you look at the rest of this schedule, is
seven five, seven and five the best it's going to look.

Speaker 7 (01:09:36):
I mean, that's probably about as optimistic as you could be.
Right now. It's possible that they could go eight and four.
You know, it's certainly possible. It's not like they've got
a lot of great teams left on the schedule. Clemson
will be tough, but they're not great. Florida is certainly
not great. On the flip side, though, the way they're
playing defense right now. Unless they can get back what

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they had earlier the season, and I'm not sure they can,
then they can lose to everybody. I mean, they literally
could lose at Stanford, they could lose to Wake Forest.
If you can't defend, you could lose to anybody. So,
you know, yeah, I think seven and five is possible
on the eight and four as possible, but I also think,
you know, six and six are worse as possible if
they don't start playing some defense.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Joining us on the program as Irish Chaffell, Irish standby,
We've got another segment and we'll get to the really
big question next here on the Morning Show with Trusty's
Guy twenty one minutes past the hour, Irish Chaffelle with us,

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managing editor at warchand dot com. I teased at the
end of the last segment, we were going to get
to the topic that I know that a lot of
you want to hear about and so I will just
ask Iris Chaffell straight out, are you going to go
to Savannah Banana baseball games in February as a member
of the media or as a fan?

Speaker 7 (01:11:03):
That's that is that is the big question in our household.
I can tell you that my wife put in for
the tickets. He's in the lottery, but if there are
media passes, I will probably be trying to go that
route as well.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Yeah, if you didn't hear friends Savannah Bananas announced, Tallahassee
a is one of the spots for that. I mean,
it's crazy that that things come to this point where
they're doing ticket lotteries, but they're going to play a
couple of games a Thursday and a Friday at Dick
Hawser before going to Dope Campbell Stadium for a Saturday
game of baseball. I can't get that in my mind.
But there truly are some pretty pressing matters on the

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football front, and I don't think any of us really
enjoy these topics. I think anyone that's been around Mike Norvel,
they like him as a person, his public persona Ira.
You know, we've we've we've talked. He's he's tough to
listen to in a press conference, because it just sounds like,
you know, he's saying a lot of the same things

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over and over and over. Is he on the hot
seat as much as your colleague Corey Clark thinks he is.

Speaker 7 (01:12:05):
Yeah, I mean, he's definitely in the hot seat if
this season goes the way last season did, and it
seems to be trending in that direction right now. You've
lost three straight games and you couldn't get out of
the tailspind last year. You know, it's hard to predict
right now that they're going to come out of this
and start playing good again. And if they don't, Yeah,
he's definitely on the hot seat. That's why that game
was so big. It would have been an if you

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won that game, it would have been an indication that, Okay,
you're probably gonna win these next two against Stanford and
wake Forest. Then you'll have a chance later in the
season get at Clemson, Florida, NC State those games. But
right now it's hard to believe that. So, yeah, he's
definitely in the hot seat. As far as like his
personality and speaking and why people get angry, is I
just think it's you know, the two times that the

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couple times that fans have gotten most, they've been most
excited about things Mike Norvella has said was the big
one was a few years ago when he responded to
a question about recruiting and gave this long, passionate answer
and was really fired up and really determined, and there
was a conviction and a real belief in what he
was saying. But a lot of times, yeah, it just

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seems like he's trying to come up with the right
words to not offend his players, to not offend his coaches,
to not you know, it's just it just doesn't feel
very authentic at times, and when you're losing, that's the
last thing you need. So but again, the results are
going to be what determines whether or not he lasts,
and they have to turn around quickly, and he hasn't shown.
He certainly didn't shore last year. He has the ability

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to turn it around, So we'll see if you can
this time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Well, you've had a staff overhaul for the most part,
and so at this point it's the only piece that's
left over. If they can't turn the ship around, you know,
you're Corey Clark made a point in his column about
the losing streaks of three games or more in Florida
state history. They're not a ton of them in the
last six decades. But the fact that coach Orvel owns

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six of the ten, I think is the number that
I read is pretty pretty reflective of of where things
have gone.

Speaker 7 (01:14:02):
Yeah, it is. And you know, and I listen, I've
spent most of the last five or six years not
excusing things that he's done, but but but looking trying
to look at and give him the benefit of the
doubt and share situations. You know, those first couple of years,
you know, you come in, you inherit a program going
in the wrong direction, and it's during COVID you can't
even be around your team physically, you can't, and you

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can't really go on the road and recruit for like
almost two years. Those were legitimate reasons. I don't think
there were excuses. And then you start having success. Well,
then last year goes the way it does, and it's like, okay,
well you get a mulligan maybe after those two good
years in twenty twenty two and twenty three, but if
this happens again, you just there's no more benefit of
the doubt. And so yeah, you start looking at those

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losing streaks and and you know, after the game Saturday,
Mike Norvel said something that he said several times last year.
He said, I know what it's supposed to look like,
and and that that phrase stuck with me because, yeah,
you know what it's supposed to look like. You've been
around good teams, but you all so haven't proven these
last couple of years that you know what it takes
to get there. And again, he's got a chance here

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to do it and prove everybody wrong. But right now,
he is what he is. He is the record that
he's put on the field, and it's going to come
back to haunt him if he can't turn around quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
I'm curious, just big picture, what do you make of
the fact, Okay, he's successful at Memphis, comes here and
now here's where we are. We have, you know, more
than enough time to judge kind of where the program is.
But Memphis is still back being Memphis. They're not you know, juggernauts,
but they're a good football program. Where does that leave

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Mike Norvell at this point?

Speaker 7 (01:15:40):
Well, I mean, listen, we have to acknowledge that he
didn't build Memphis into a good program. Justin Puente who
was the coach before him, who then got the Virginia
Tech job and then failed there. He's the one that
kind of got Memphis to where it got. Mike Rovell
inherited a good program and then took it to a
different level. He did. He got into the Cotton Bowl,
something that never seemed conceivable, won their conference, did a

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lot of good things there. But it's not like you
built that program from scratch. So you take that into
account and then, like you said, they've been successful since
he left. This deal with Florida State is it's it's
a unique situation, and I think it's why you need
to understand when you're hiring these coaches and why I
think that they need to get out of the business
with something I'm writing about this week is you know,

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getting out of the business of these long term, ridiculously
expensive coaching contracts because you never know how it's going
to work. I mean, if you fire Mike Norvell, there's
no guarantee even if you hire Lane Kiffin or whoever
it is, that you're going to be successful. Every job
is unique, every situation is unique, and there's it's a
little bit of a craft.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Shoot.

Speaker 7 (01:16:41):
So I just I think that you know when you're
judging these coaches that none of them are going to
be a slam dunk. And and and Jimbo Fisher looked
like a slam dunk until he wasn't. So again, I
just think the biggest key is not marrying these long
term contracts to these coaches and giving yourself an out
if it doesn't go well. And I think the new
realm of college football where you're paying the players now,

(01:17:03):
I think it gives you some leeway to maybe go
in that direction.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Iras, always fascinating insights. I appreciate your time. We'll talk
again next week. Thank you, sir, Thank you, press appreciate it.
Iraschaffell with Warchant dot com. Good to be back with

(01:17:33):
us this morning on the Morning show. It's Monday, October thirteenth,
and thrilled dead back on the program. Friend of the
show for many years now, Senior pastor, founder and chairman
of Liberty Counsel LC dot org. He is Matt Staver. Matt,
how are you, sir?

Speaker 7 (01:17:48):
Very good, good to be with you today.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Yeah, some good news. I want to talk specifically for
just a few moments about the federal judge ruling in
Florida's Escambia County school Board that it can in fact
deal with questionable books in its libraries. Explain the case.

Speaker 8 (01:18:06):
Yeah, this is a good decision by a federal judge
regarding the Escambia County school Board. They removed a book
called and Tango Make Three, which follows two male penguins
who adopt Patch and then raise Tango, which is a
penguin chick at New York City Central Park Zoo. And
this was actually promoting same sex marriage. So the school

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board decided that this was inappropriate for the young readers
and they removed it. They were then sued in twenty
twenty three by the co authors and a female student
wanting to borrow the book from her school library. The
judge Alan Windsor rejected their first amendment argument. Actually, he

(01:18:49):
cited our case that I argued in one nine to
zero at the US Supreme Court, the Shirtlift versus City
of Boston case. And he goes through the criteria for
what requires, what requirements there would be to get a
public form? In other words, did the library open up
its facility as a public form for people to bring

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library books and Therefore, excluding a book or removing a book,
is that viewpoint discrimination into the first amament? And the
judge said no, it doesn't meet that criteria. The libraries
must have discretion to be able to purchase books, and
they have discretion and control over what books they retain
and what books that they remove. This is not a
public form where any author or individual can force a

(01:19:35):
library to either accept a book or retain a book
that they don't want to have on the shelf. So
this is a good decision in one certainly that makes
common sense and protects children.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
However, we also recognize that we are fighting an adversary
in Satan that is just not going to fold up
and go away. This is an ongoing battle. Matt, talk
to me Abo about the challenge. Okay, we've got this
court ruling. It's a win, but we know that this
is going to be fought in other ways, in other

(01:20:08):
venues and with other judges ruling differently.

Speaker 8 (01:20:11):
Well, and here's this thing. There are cases previous to
the shortlived case that I argued in twenty twenty two
and one nine to zero that go the opposite way.
So another words, when a library chooses to remove an
objectionable book book like this because it's inappropriate for young people.
The libraries have been sued and the judges have gone.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
The other way.

Speaker 8 (01:20:32):
I think the tide will turn as a result of
the Shirtlifd case. However, on the other hand, what you
have is the vast majority of libraries, particularly public libraries,
whether they're school K twelve or outside, are different than
a Scambia. Scambia is making good decisions to remove books
that should not be on the shelves. But what we

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find in most libraries it's the opposite. So they are
excluding religious or Christian books, or books from a conservative standpoint,
or they put them in places where they're hard to find,
and they're purchasing with tax dollars pro LGBTQ books and
abortion books, and they're prominently displaying them so that they're

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very easy to find. That's primarily what's happening in a
lot of these school situations as well as public library cases.
So we really see the opposite. So what do you
do with that? Well, if a court can't force them
to accept a particular book, then what happens is you
need to be involved in the political process, So you

(01:21:38):
need to go visit your libraries, whether they're K through
twelve or public libraries for the general public, and find
out what kind of books they have on the shelves,
and then bring this up for political pressure. And what
we're seeing is this is happening all over the country
where the political pressure is taking place. Parents, people in
the community are going to these different deliberative bodies, county, city,

(01:22:04):
deliberative elected officials, and they are protesting and bringing up
these issues in some way, even taking it, believe it
or not, to extreme levels. To illustrate the point, even
reading verbade in some of the trash that's in these
libraries that's quite offensive and is shocking to the people
that are sitting on the board making these decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Stand by Matt Staver with us for one more segment.
He is with Liberty Council again LC dot org forty
two minutes past the hour. A few more minutes here
with founder of Liberty Council, Matt Staver. Matt, when you
look at some of the rulings coming out of the

(01:22:45):
High Court and you look at some of the cases
it's accepting or not accepting, kind of give me your overview,
your sense of where we are at the High Court
right now.

Speaker 8 (01:22:54):
Well, at the High Court, I think we're in a
good trajectory. They're not making all the right decisions that
I would agree with, but by and large, the trajectory
is correct and they're correcting some of the problems that
we're seeing in the lower courts. What we're seeing in
the lower courts is absolute rebellion, ideological decisions that are
being put in place that are not following the law,

(01:23:16):
particularly as it relates to President Donald Trump's actions, and
we see those overreaching time after time of time. But
then you have more activity of the president at the
United States Supreme Court than any other president in American history,
and the success rate and win ratio at the Supreme
Court is phenomenal. So some of that is being corrected.

(01:23:38):
I think that'll have long term consequences in a good way.
We do have a number of cases that are at
the Supreme Court that I think are very positive. One
was just arguing last week. That's the Change Council case.
We've been litigating that since twenty twelve, and I think
we're going to have a six to three or seven
to two victory on that particular case, striking down these

(01:23:59):
laws that ban counsel to people who want to overcome
on wanted same sex attractions, behaviors or gender confusion. So
I think that's a good decision. We've got a case
that i'll be we'll be hearing from it at the
end of the month or early November, and that's the
Kim Davis case. In that case could be one that
would that's challenging the twenty fifteen of Bergerfel's same sex

(01:24:21):
marriage opinion. Plus it's also a big, huge religious free
exercise case, So keep an eye on that one. That'll
be a huge one if they accept the case. But
I think generally at the High Court it's going in
the direction that it should. It's correcting some of the
errors of the past decades of the activist judges. But
on the other hand, you had a lot of judges

(01:24:41):
that were put in place by Biden and Obama, and those,
by the way, they're not rule of law type of
generally people. They're ideologically driven, the results oriented, and we
see that a lot in some of them recent litigation.
It's frustrating to see, but I think at the end
of the day, it's being corrected when it's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
All said and done. Though, if a district judge. You know,
for example, the Supreme Court says district judge cannot go
beyond their district, but they keep doing these nationwide injunctions
and they're not following the directives of the Supreme Court.
What's the remedy.

Speaker 8 (01:25:16):
Well, the remedy is appeachment. But you know, we've never
had an impeachment that's been successful recently. You know, the
last last one was alse Hastens down in Miami, and
he was impeached for accepting it bride. But then he
became a US member of Congress and the Democratic Party.
He's deceased now, so it's not been a real effective means.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:25:35):
The other possibility is just continually, you know, the Supreme
Court recorrecting the record and forcing them to obey. And
the other is other kinds of discipline that might be.
You know, judges are also should be abiding by their
judicial codes or canons of ethics, and if they don't,
they could be you know, challenged that way as well.

(01:25:56):
I know, in the in the litigation regarding Church lockdown,
we had a case where it went to the Supreme Court.
We won five to four. In December of twenty twenty,
we went back down to the district Court and Obama
appointee ruled against us again. We had to go back
to the Supreme Court a second time, this time one
six to three. But that's the kind of thing that
we're dealing with. And the problem that we have is,

(01:26:17):
even though the Supreme Court is correcting a lot of
these cases with regards to President Trump, most cases are
not taken up by the Supreme Court, so that means
a lot of damage can be done by these lower
court justices or judges. I should say that the justices
will never see and never be able to correct.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Matt. As always, we appreciate all the work you and
your team are doing. Thanks so very much.

Speaker 8 (01:26:40):
Thank you, Preston. Always good to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Thank you, Sir. Matt stavor with us from Liberty Council. Boy,
if you want a place to direct a few dollars
for a good cause. They take on cases that go
before the United States Supreme Court. Matt will never brag
about it, but his record before the United States Supreme
Court is incredible, absolutely incredible, because he's got God on
his side, and oh, by the way, he's smart, and

(01:27:03):
he's right. Forty six minutes past the hour tomorrow. We're
just going to pick up right here Justin Haskins tomorrow.

(01:27:23):
By the way, the new vice president of the Heartland
Institute and Senior Fellow. He now has the lofty title
of VP at Heartland. Very excited about that for Justin.
He'll join us tomorrow. We'll have a manly minute money
talk and we're going to detail danger. What does that mean? Well,

(01:27:47):
I guess you'll have to find out by tuning in
tomorrow on the radio program. We are entering shopping season.
You know, we talked about it yesterday at the house,
had some of the kids over to watch the Green
Bay Packer football game.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
We got onto the topic of why Amazon and then
Amazon did their early shopping thing, and then Walmart did something,
and you found a lot of merchants online and brick
and mortar doing promotions during the same time they're trying
to jumpstart the holiday shopping season. Well, my friends, I

(01:28:32):
just need you to know I'm here for you. I
am k Kringle, and I will do my usual yeoman's
work in providing you holiday shopping gift guides for people
that are really tough to buy for. I'm going to
share some secrets, some go tos. In my world, it's fine.

(01:28:56):
I'm happy to share what works for me. So that'll
be coming up in the coming weeks. We also have
the Giving season coming up in November December. We're narrowing
down and we're zeroing in on a project. So's some
things going on behind the scenes before we can officially
announce it, but that's coming up as well. Brought to
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Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
Show one on WFLA Ephesians one, verse seven, that is
where we started the radio program this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Listen a little bit to Benjamin Netanyahu giving an address
to the Kanesse, which is the Israeli form of Congress.
The President of the United States, with most of his
staff was there. He's heading on to Egypt for broader
regional peace negotiations. The President is i think, effectively trying

(01:29:52):
to isolate Iran because Iran is bankrolling a lot of
these terrorist groups, and if he can effectively isolate Iran,
it therefore brings Iran to a point of needing to
recognize the landscape in the region. It really doesn't matter
what deals Iran strikes with China and Russia. If its

(01:30:16):
neighbors hate him, and it's not going to take a
whole lot of coaxing from Trump to get the neighbors
to play along. But we'll see where that all goes.
Scott Lindecker Liberty Vote has purchased Dominion Voting Systems. Lawsuits
against conservatives by Dominion over they are ended as part

(01:30:39):
of the deal, and now he is going to change
Dominion into a one hundred percent American owned, American built,
independently audited voting software system. That's good news. The United
States sending about two hundred troops to Israel to help
with the ceasefire deal. There have been reports of violence,

(01:31:02):
but it is not between Israel and Amas. It's between
AMAS and armed groups inside Gaza, which is I'll be
honest with you, it's really good news. They're kind of
it would seem getting a little fed up with hamas
we'll see. Trump tells the Department of Defense find the money,
pay the troops. Covered a lot of other stories throughout

(01:31:24):
the course of the morning. Visited with GOP candidate for
governor Paul Renner. Visited with doctor Joe Camps, Irish Chaffell,
and of course Matt stab Busy Monday. Hope you enjoyed
the program, catch it on the podcast. We'll be back tomorrow.