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And welcome to the Town out Doorsshow. I'm Charlie, I'm j D.
Captain Paul Tar and I'm granted.I'm still missing Fred. I guess
it was a longer process, andwe thought it was. You had to
listen last week's show. We're actually, uh so some of our current events
might not be great, Kurt.We we're having to do a show a
week early, you know. Iso you all need grant. Both gonna
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be gone. Yeah, so rightnow you're gone. I'm gone. I'm
in Kennesall, Kennesall Mountain, Georgia, and I'm in South Carolina. Went
far off head, not too far. Yeah, I'm Paul's probably fishing.
Yes, I'm fishing. And rightnow I'm I'm sleeping on ten o'clock in
the morn. I probably still sleepon Saturday morning. I wasn't making that
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up. I wouldn't. I wasn'tpulling that from I don't know what I'm
gonna do from minute to minute,much less day to day, and certainly
can't predict two weeks out unless mywife has something on my calendar. I
look at my calendar, I go, what are my schedule to do today?
So people go, hey, areyou available, and sometimes I'll say
I'm available all next week. You'renot. You're not busy. I said,
oh, I'm busy. I gotI got more to do and I
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can't say grace over. But Idon't have anything on my calendar, which
means I'm flexible. There's a differencebetween being flexible than being busy. You're
not fully committed. I don't haveany spare time, but I can squeeze
you in somewhere somewhere along the way. So well, it's only a week
away. Technically, it's not twoweeks. It's a week. I just
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know I know where I'm will becauseI got tickets. Yeah, yeah,
I just what are you going toa concert? Or Cody Johnson, Cody
Johnson Country music Cody Johnson, Kojoe, I'm a Cojo Nation guy, y'all
people, Oh yeah Johnson's yeah,stick to stick together with a Johnson cousin,
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Cody oh big Johnson, Yeah,yeah, yeah. Yeah. So
we when we record earlier, asalways, you know, we may we'll
talk about stuff. We'll talk abouta court case I think could have been
completely different in two weeks. Whenthis thing or a week away, we
record a week ahead of time inthis case, and we try not to
do anymore. We have to becausewe can't be current. We talked to
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Paul about fishing. Paul's like,well, uh, I don't know,
but he knows what the weather forecastis when all the years experience you got
fishing, Paul, if you knowthe weather forecast and the temperature and the
time of year, can you tellme pretty much fissure about the baits of
fishing. Yes, bit fish?Should we go? You need to go?
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You need to go fishing this weekend? Yes, you do if I
tell you what they've been biting allweek? Yeah, because because that weather
forecast. Do you remember when theweather forecast was just like a shot in
the door. It was like oneof those things, Well, it's the
summer chance of rain. It mightit might not. There you have a
nice day. We have a likelythe likelihood of showers today after doing thunderstorms
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here, and there's something pretty muchmake the whole summer prediction back then.
But well we got a high systemmoving in, so there's less chance of
rain here. And they show youa map and it will have a big
h on it and a little linewith some little little triangles and we got
a high system coming in, so, uh chance, we have a low
moving in, We're gonna have somerain showers, and we have a tropical
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system. You pretty much you hadlike three in the summertime. You had
a tropical system coming in, soyou're going to get some rain. You
had a high coming in, You'renot gonna get any rain. You'd have
a low moving in. I thinkyou'd probably have in that front. And
that's and and the and but thebut the prediction was pretty much. Uh
you go four years of meteorology schoolhot and with yeah, and that's what
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you've come up with. And yousaid, okay, duh, you know,
and I bet if you live ina different region of the country where
you have like actual weather, yes, on this side of town, you
got that, you know, youknow what I mean. But just down
here, it's just like, well, well, now with all the technology
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you can based on your zip code, you will have a different forecast.
So when I'm in Dothan and Ipull up the weather forecast on my phone
like here recently, it would belike twenty percent chance rain. And then
I would go to Marianna. Well, I go to Marianna. It's like
thirty percent chance rain, And thenI checked Panama City. It's forty percent
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chance of rain. Because it closeryou are to the coast, the more
likely you are to pick up thoseshowers coming in from that, that moisture
moving that on the coast, andit sort of peters out as it gets
north of there, and say thaton the radio camp Yeah, and so
as it gets further north. Andso I've been watching rain because i've been
I've had some grass seeding there.Now by the time this show airs,
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I'm hoping to have had some precipitation. There's a fifty percent you might get
some you might Well, if there'sfifty percent chance on Monday, there's there's
fifty to fifty I got rain.But there's fifty percent chance on Monday,
fifty percent chance on Tuesday. Thendoes that make it? And then I
always say I got five days,it's fifty percent chance every day. Is
that still mean it's fifty percent chancethat I got with exactly? See,
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I don't think that's the way itshould work though, because if it's fifty
percent I got so I got anacre of land, that's fifty percent chance
I and I get rain on fiftypercent of it the first day. You're
using common sense math, and itdon't work that way. That's what I
had somebody try to tell me.Now, Paull, let me ask you
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this. Were talking about boats andstuff. I had somebody tell me.
I said, man, that thatboat had that boat had four four hundred
horse power outboards on the back ofit. That's sixteen hundred horsepower. And
guy said, nah, that's notsixteen hundred horsepower. I was like,
well, by my math, ifyou got four hundreds with four times four
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hundred would be sixteen hundred. Hesaid, no, that's just four hundred
horsepower on the boat. And Isaid, no, that's sixteen hundred horse
power. Now, it's just itdon't make the boat no faster. And
I was like, well, wellyet does He goes, no, it's
just that that and it don't.It don't work that way. And I
was like, well, well whatmath? And there is a so about
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his reasoning. If you put onefour hundred on there in four four hundreds,
it's the same amount of horsepower.Yeah. So if I put four
hundred horses and then four hundred morehorses and four hundred more horses, yeah,
Now you're only going to have apropeller turning so many rpm with a
four hundred horsepower motor. If yougot four of them, those propellers are
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only still turning at the same rpm. There may be some limiting factors there,
right, it's it's you're not Iunderstand that you are not gonna get
the same speed you would get ifyou had one sixteen hundred horse power out
because you only weighed this bigger.Right, So it's probably not gonna be
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the boat's probably not gonna go thesame speed with a sixteen hundred horse power
of four times faster. Right,it's not gonna go four times fast.
I bet it pulled four times asmuch. Yeah, But so that's that's
kind of what the reasoning was.Okay, well, let's a bigger boat's
got more drags, this, thatand the other. So if you put
a smaller boat with one four hundredon there, you're gonna run about the
same as you would, but youhad four hundred horses pulling it, and
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then another you added four hundred morehorses. You ain't gonna go twice as
fast as a horse can't go,but just so fast, that's right.
That's all the horse will do.You know, my math is I'm using
redneck maw love well and you're exactlyright. But so yeah, anyway,
but for but for but four fourhundred is way cooler than one, and
it costs a lot more money upfront and to operate because when you get
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them big old boats like that.You know, went off shore a few
weeks ago with a filler and Iwas sitting there watching it, all of
his digital, fancy digital display andwe're on this thirty six foot contender and
twin three hundred yamahas on the backand you know, and I'm watching it
and it's so six hundred horse fyor three hundred three hundred times too or
three hundred twice. I mean yeah, So so if we had an engineer
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out there sitting there looking at andI said one point five and I'm like,
look at that. That was thegallons gallons per minute or gallons per
hour or something. It was soyou burn in some gideop fuel, you
know, with that. It wasn'tmiles, wasn't miles per gallon. It
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was how many gallons per per minuteor hour or whatever it was that they
were burning. But anyway, itis what it is, but yeah,
I just okay, So here's whatartificial intelligence Google says. I said,
do two three hundred horsepower boat motorsequals six hundred horse power? Okay?
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And AI over you says, ingeneral, the net horsepower of a boat
will decrease as more engines are added, so a boat with two three hundred
horsepower engines will not necessarily have sixhundred horse power. Other factors to include
to consider include weight, hydrodynamic drag. I did not know that was the
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thing, but it makes sense.Relistic coefficient on the bullet. The two
lower units of the engine can alsocreate drag that slows the boat down.
The weight of the two engines canslow the boat down. Maneuverability, Twin
engines can work together and allow moresharp buffel. So technically it's not a
direct you don't it's not a directproportion. However, four four hundred horse
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power motors is sixteen hundred horse powerworth of motor on the back of that
thing, and a couple hundred thousand, but it's not a direct proportional to
you. You can't say what itruns. I understood that that may go
on. You've got to negate thefact, there's sixteen hundred horse. If
you got a bigger motor in atruck, you typically would get pound for
pound, get better miles because itdidn't have to work so hard. But
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com and we're back. So ourfirst segment was was designed by our in
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our pre planning stages of the ofthe show, when we do our brief
before the show and we go downpoint by point on all of the points
we want to make during the show. This was designed to be an educational
thing. So initially we where wasup paying? Oh that's right, we
don't have one do it, soLord knows how we got there. JD's
concerned now that I've invited the GoogleAI discussion in here that now we're being
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listened to. Let me tell youit is I gonna change how you say
what you show. No, ain'tgonna change nothing. Sky It better bring
a bunch of help. Yeah,terminator shows up at the house. I
know I know how to get ridof him. Yeah yeah. They so
speaking of boats, okay, SoI'm pre planning. So I got to
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fishing and boating experts in the room. I sold my john boat and I
want you know, I don't gooffshore, okay, and I'm looking for
what I want my next boat tobe because I want the ability I never
go. But I want the abilityto go. But now my requirements are
I want to be able to goon the river and I want to be
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able to go the big river forfun, and we might might hit the
spoil or something, but I ain'talways bor a boat if that's all I'm
gonna do. I want to beable to go into the flats and fish.
I do not want to be ableto go where there's any chop or
off. I'm not going out toany islands or anything like that I could,
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so I'm looking for something that Icould use in the flats, use
on the river and carry me thewife and two kids, or maybe a
couple of grandkids or something at somethingyou need so you need something similar to
what I have, which is ait's aluminum two bay boat. It's it's
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a glorified bass boat. It isa It is like a decked bass boat,
like you have front and rear castingdecks on it, except it as
a center console with a leaning postin the middle. Instead of having the
sit down in like a bass boat, you have basically you drive it or
operate it sitting down on the floor. They got a seat mounted to the
floor of the boat and you're sittingbehind a wind spell like I could see
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things, instructions and things like that. Right, So what I have is
essentially the parts of a bass boatthat I have, or the very the
far, the back end, andthe front end. Is a casting deck,
the fish fish front. It's gotrod boxes in the middle. It's
got that you stand up essentially oror sit on a leaning post. You're
sitting up high. You've got acenter console where you've got some storage and
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stuff like that. It's it's ait's a they call it a bay boat
just because of the center console.That's the biggest difference between bay boats and
flats boats and bass boats. Asyou're not in the bass boat. You
sit down in it. You're runningchannels and this, that and the other,
and you go really fast and allthat. The center consoles and the
flats boats are not really made forthat. All out speed bass boats are
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made. I don't think I'm gonnabuy a new boat. I think I'm
gonna buy a used boat just becauseI get rid of the appreciation the more
than I'm gonna use it. Youknow, I don't necessarily think I need
a new one. So it's atwenty foot hoigh wait that uh, you
know, I don't know the widthon mine, but it's it's like sixty
seventy, so it's more like eightyfour eighty two eighty four really wide.
Yeah, it's both very stable too. Yeah. And the big the wider,
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and that's what you want. Yeah. The wider your boat is,
the more you can walk around withoutgetting all the tipsy stuff. And it
is you can okay, you knowwe're getting the dripping on the side.
I mean you know, yeah,exactly, you've gotten the salt water.
You gring in and spray it off. Yeah, you know what I mean,
it's yeah. And if it's thecenter console, it's the wiring.
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The biggest difference between bass boats orfresh water intended boats and saltwater boats is
the wiring. When they put thoseboats together, the wiring, they tend
to use better wiring components and theyinsulate them or coat them better so that
it can stand up to the saltwater. So what about horse power,
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Well, I mean if you putthat kidding, well, if we put
four, Yeah, the bigger themore people you've got in there, the
more weight you're carrying. My boathas one hundred and fifty horse so that
the boat that I have, thetwenty foot boat that I have, one
fifteen is kind of like the smallmotor, and then the one fifty is
the big motor. But I thinkyou could probably I don't know what mine's
rated for. I think mine mightbe rated for one seventy five. So
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one fifty is kind of the sweetspot. And Paul will attest to this.
I've had to say it, andI talked to my friends, will
verify that I've said this. There'snothing more miserable than an underpowered boat.
Yes, that is the most miserablething on the planet. If you've got
a boat that with too small ofa motor, that won't get up on
plane and push what you put anyweight in it, it gets starts plowing
and stuff. And there's nothing moremiserable than being in a boat this this
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underpowered and overpowered gets dangerous. Soyou've got to be the coastguard will make
rec mandations. If it's a commerciallymanufactured boat, it'll give you a maximum
horsepower rating and a maximum number ofpeople and or wait in the boat.
So well, I know what anoverpowered boat will do because I have put
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a fifteen horse power on the backof a canoe, right, and my
daddy did that and I took itout and it will get it will go
straight up. Any I mean,I mean, you got all that weight
on the back plus my big buttin the back, and you hit it
and a little and once you dothat and the wind hits it. Literally.
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Yeah. There's a lot of YouTubevideos or you see these guys while
they put these grossly overpowered little tinboats and they're putting a big, big
tailer motor on the back of thatthing. Just just just the motors in
the water. You don't want thateither, you know. So it's so
so Paul, I mean that's JDtalking. What do you think I agree
with JD? What you're little withyou disagree, It'll be mad way more
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lively conversation with you want but touse it for salt water and fresh Yeah,
yeah, I mean I want tobe a go in the flats and
definitely definitely go with it with whatJD's has. I'm actually looking for one
similar to that to myself because Iwant something I can leave in the water
under the in the stall, getit and go. Want to run down
like a little a little bit fasterthan the ponting. But you know what
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I mean, if I want tofish the hoots or so, it's a
great idea to get ready to cleanit out. Just ray it off,
you know what I mean. You'rejust can handle pretty good rough water too,
can't. Yeah, it takes roughwater. Okay, it's not a
super deep b but it's you know, it's uh, it'll take it'll take
a chop, just fine. Mind. It is an Express. Its x
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p R E S S Express.There's the G three. I see a
lot of G three's, but they'redifferent styles. G threes. War Eagle
makes a good aluminum boat Express,Uh, Rhino there there's some some there's
some good boats out there that areilluminum boats. And that's the big thing.
Like Paul said, people won't knowthis, Paul and I didn't know
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it. But you take a fiberglassa fiberglass boat that just has jael coat
on it doesn't have any special bottompain or whatever, and you leave it
sitting in the water, you're runninga substantial risk of osmosis the boat actually,
the fiberglass or the jail coat actuallyallowing water to penetrate it. And
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get in there and get in thefiberglass, and you'll get bubbles and delamination
and all this kind of stuff fromfiberglass boats being left in the water now
down salt water, the big fiberglassboats. That's why you see that different
colored paint on the bottom that keepsthe barnacles from growing on it and keeping
that. They'll take those boats outof the water and paint this really thick
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nasty coating on the bottom of theboat to keep that fiberglass boat from absorbing
the water through there. Aluminum boatsrequire a whole lot less care. Mine
actually has a rhino liner, abedliner it had. Mine is that the
inside of my boat is bedliner material, so it is super durable. Now
we see a lot of stuff that'scarpet, but I don't have carpet.
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I have. I have se deckwhich is the foam, the squishy phone
stuff, sea deck and rhino liner, so it's far as taking care of
it. It is a super easyquick wash down. Want to get any
any features that are just like gottahave this lot of machine, GPS,
GPS, bow machine and the trud. Now, one thing I would highly
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recommend as a good troller motor,a powerful trollo motor back to the hill.
I've seen twenty four vault system isthat I mean twenty four to thirty
six, twenty four to thirty Mostof your newer troller motors today they either
could be thirty six or twenty foureither you just push a button on it.
But I would definitely I like thebiggest troll on that ponteam boat that
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you went on. I have athirty six vault troll ma I've got the
biggest t same trolling moving my bassboat. Well, I can tell you
I've had a twelve volt troller motoron a pontoon boat and it won't it
won't keep it in the current.It just you just drift what It's totally
worthless. I have an eighty poundthrust and that probably twenty four volt eighty
pound thrust troller motor on mine.The the technology and trolling motors, my
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gosh, yeah, has come along way sure since back in the day
of the old motor guide. Rememberoh yeah, Johnson Evan rud Johnson's motor
guide. Uh, you know inMinkota and the motor Guide. I guess,
I guess they're still in business.They still have motor Guide, you
know, Now you've got garment.Garment has come out, and Lawrence they
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have their ghost troller motor. Andyou know there's the something that begins with
an R. I can't remember thename of it. They've they've got some
man. They have come a longway. They're making some incredible power and
battery technology has come a long way. The lithium batteries. Now these super
lightweight lithium batteries that you can buythat are one battery set up for twenty
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four volts, so you're not havingto jump, you know, put a
jumper onto twelve volt batteries. You'recutting down on the weight. Anytime.
You cut the golf carts too,where you can have a forty eight vote
golf cart. Now it's one bigbattery, you know, it's a forty
eight volt. So but yeah,the technology on that stuff has come a
long way. I remember, Iremember when a sure enough motor guide magnum
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or a motor guide hog, rememberthose, and they were hogs because they
ate eight batteries like nobody's business.You know, you got about six hours
of fishing off one of those batteries. But they were making as a twelve
volt battery or a twelve volt trollermotor making about uh thirty pounds of thrust.
You know, so well, wouldyou take that boat on a smaller
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river like like oh said, youcan do that? Sure? Absolutely?
Yeah, yeah, there's there's youknow, I mean it has its limitation
about, uh, you can't dothings in it that we used to do
with our little John boats like jumpover logs and go back in the go
back into narrow thick covered of ducts, I wood, a little slows and
stuff. But because it's because it'sbig. But you can take it on
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the bay in on like someone offyou wanted to absolutely and man the flats
for that. That boat's really showsit's what it's all about. You could
put four people on one oh sureyeah, I mean you can haul more
than that. Probably just go there'sa sandbar or something or something like that.
There's a mine has seating on thelivewheel in front of the center consoles.
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Got two seats on the inside thelean posting and two people on the
lining posts center. Yeah, youcould comfortably seat five Ago, all right,
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so sitting here still talking boats.I got my my go to shopping
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spot for pretty much anything that Iwant to buy affordably is Facebook marketplace.
I mean, I just go therebecause everybody list stuff. I sold my
boat in fifteen minutes on Facebook Marketplaceto a guy who who wanted to buy
it for a sixteen year old sonso he could fish with his grandpa.
And he came over and week Isaid yes, I mean, and had
like five people wanting it. Ishould have priced it higher, and I
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could have got in a biding war, you know, and had them all
just the thing. But I goin there and I see boats galore.
There's there's all kinds of boats inthere, and then I put mine out
there and it's like gone, Imean, just like that, but it's
just how far are you willing todrive? I bought multiple vehicles out of
there for the security company. Ibought this. All those price is that
I bought every one of those cameoff at Facebook Marketplace, and they just
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went and went to the bank,got cash, went and paid for it.
Problem is, as you go tobanks, I need I need ten
thousand dollars ago, we have tofill out a suspicious translator the saw's report,
which is what Hunter Biden got introuble. I had a bunch of
stuff and I'm like that's fine,that's cool. I mean, you know,
it's just I need money, andthen I'd go broker a deal and
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take that thing straight to Todd canput a lift kid on it and then
put it right in the field.You know they uh go up to the
Super Sciens, get my graphics pullon it, Red Nick. If you
put a lift kid on a PRIs, you just just mine. Well here's
the thing, is lift kits forPrius. It's just still just as off
roadpris dot com. Yeah, northernCalifornia, the uh so, so they
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must have some bad roads out there. Well they've got They go up in
the northern way up in the northpart of the state, and they got
some some deserts and stuff. Andthey go out there and there's the guy
who owns off road PRIs dot comactually has a press and goes off road,
takes that thing out. There's frontwheel drive hybrid. He goes out
in the desert with the thing he'sgot. You know, his his has
got some bigger tires and you know, different kind of tires on it.
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But you can go crazy with thesethings. They make even bigger. Let
me ask you this. You gota front wheel drive PRIs for off roading.
Now, back in the day,when we had a pickup truck that
was a two wheel drive and youwanted to go out in the woods or
in the mud, you put somebig old ten fifty eleven fifty mud GRIBs
off the back and jack the backof it up unless air let out left
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right, But you left the shack. You left street tires on the front.
Yeah, you put some two byfours under the under the put some
two by fours or four by foursto the springs to get the back end
up so you can get them bigtires on them. And you left the
straight tires on the front. Nowwith the prius all through, and are
you putting the mud grips on thefront and leaving the back alone? I
guess it don't matter what goes onthe back because it's but you look at
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it. You know what what wouldget a what would you get a pickup
truck stuck is the fact that youhad no weight in the rear end right,
and it would and you would andyou would dig a hole and you
get stuck there. If you hadweight, you get more traction. Isn't
even worse If you had a onewheel wonder. Yeah, well no kind
of limited slip or whatever differential.You got that one tire spinn and you've
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done. Yeah, you just hadopen differential and you just one tiresoop and
you're done. You tapped them,you pulled emergency brake down. Try to
slow that thing down and get theother one. But you know it's so
uh yeah, I mean the problemis is fender clearance and all that stuff.
The reason I did that. SoI bought one of those priuses for
milets and the ease that so,yeah, I'm not trimming anything, and
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set out there saws off thunder flares, which they made thunder flares for him
too. They make mud flaps forthem. They got so and so I'm
standing. I'm pointing that thing andtelling Matt. One day we were over
there teaching one of the Right toBear seminars and I said something about getting
this priss and he goes, youneed to lift it, and I said,
yeah, they don't make lyft kitsfor PRIs. So he goes,
wait a minute, boss, andhe googled it and showed it to me
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and I went, holy crap.I mean, like ten minutes later I
had that sucker on the way andand so then it got to be a
little bit of a thing where I'mgoing, I can get something that gets
forty five to fifty miles at agallon on the job site. Uh,
and I can put But the minutewe got it, I took it up
to one of these places we patrolledwhen I'm driving around the parking lot,
and they kept scuffing the front endand as it was so low to the
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ground, and uh, but weput the lift kits on it, and
we didn't do that anymore. Sonow you have I was going to ask
you you got any of them stuckit. We don't go off road with
it. It's just paved parking lots. These are just we patrol parking lots
and the streets and things like that. We have the we have the frontier
that we run off roads on theplantation. Now now we do have roads.
Now, we do have a coupleof solar projects that we're working with
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FPO. We're providing security for theconstruction companies putting them solar projects, and
we'll running around in priuses. Theyalso have cyber sides there, so we
run the roads and the hard pack. It's off on dirt and mudholes and
stuff. But if they go offinto the real soft and they jump in
one of those kibodas and Paul heleaves the keys to one of them.
Prius is here at the office meand you go find out if it gets
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done. Okay, one in thepark line. I think we'll be right
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call him at eight five O sevensixty six thirteen four. And we're back
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sitting there on a break, tryand do basic math. How many segments
did we do? Of course wesave unwell with math today at all.
I mean, as you know theit's well when four times four not sixteen
anymore? Well, when you weretalking about four four hu horsepower motors,
see that shows you how basic mymath is. I went four plus four
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plus four plus four in my headto come up with sixteen, and you
said four times for sixteen. Myback, My math is way more basic.
Because me and CJ had this conversationon the way over this morning driving
in to do the show. AsI said, I was talking about working
security contracts, and I said,okay, so we're working seven seven hour
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shifts on this particular job and it'sseven days a week. I said,
so I think that's forty nine.I said, is that right? And
he goes, I said, mytimestables. I don't do my timestable.
He goes, wasn't neither do.I went, okay, well we found
something in common right there. Anduh and then I and then I look
you over to calculator and I wentand said, yeah, that's so so.
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Growing up I had this, uhwas it River Riverside Elementary? And
I just I remember this. Andwe were talking talking to him today about
how I said, son, atyour age, there are a lot of
core memories that are being developed,and you got to be careful how you
talk to people and how you howyou might affect I said something. I
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said, so you did something thatyou were really, really proud of and
somebody just totally blew it off,like yeah, whatever, that doesn't matter.
And then all of a sudden,you've put all this time and effort,
and that's that could turn into acore memory, and that can change
the trajectory of your life based onyou know, it's foods you don't like
or things that you do that.People blow off or somebody makes a big
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deal out of something, or somebodymakes fun of you about something that can
then turn into a thing. Isaid, and it's you know, part
of being, part of growing upand dealing is learning how to deal with
this stuff. And one of thecore memories that I have is and I
forget which great it was, butI we were in elementary school and they
would one of the teachers had arecord player and they had this record and
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it played uh, two times twois, and you had to answer it
seven times nine is. And wewould be in the room and she would
point. I don't know if wedid this one time or a thousand times,
but this is a core memory ofmine. And I don't say your
name, and I don't do well. It's kind of like if I meet
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somebody, that may take me afew minutes to try to remember where I
know I'm from or what their nameis. I'm terrible with names, and
JD knows this. I come andI hate that guy I was talking to
fifteen minutes. What's his name again? Oh yeah, that's so and So's
and so when you talk to me, it's best if you remind me even
you know, you know you.I mean, not like if we talk
every day, but you know whatI'm saying, we can't seen me in
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six months, you know, youknow, might help to drop a hint
or two, especially if I say, hey, man, hey, what's
up? But or something like that. Then I just you know, if
you don't hear your name and theconversation for a little while, and there's
and if I don't introduce you towho I'm talking to, it's because my
mind just took a blank, andit's not You could be one of the
most important people that my mind justdoesn't. It just goes into this just
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a thing and and probably some spectrumsomewhere, you know, the thing,
the thing, the thing, youknow, the thing, you know,
the thing I can totally relate toyou girl, Yeah, and so so
and and and I go back andevery time it happens, I think about
this time where seven times six isI don't know, so so I go,
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okay, three to them some twentyone and forty two. But I
have to go I have to breakit down into smaller numbers. I go
seven times six, so I dothreeedom sevens twenty one and that's the times
twice. That is for Yeah,that's how I have to do it with
my brain because I can't remember that. And so why I can't do algebra,
Well, I can do algebra.I can't do algebra. I can
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do algebra. I can do tonumbers. Just don't see I can.
I can sit there and work withthat stuff better than that. But even
doing I mean I'm sitting there workingyou know somebody, So it was another
day in life. I didn't usepythagorm theorem, and I go a lot
use it all the time to dofigure stairs. If you want a square
a concrete slab, I mean gettingout you got all these multiple tape measures
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and you're trying to do all thisstuff. Well, you just take the
measurement of one side and the measurementof the other, and you say side
A times side A, side plusside B plus times side b. You
know, A squared plus b squared. See what that number is, and
then take the square root of it, and then that's what you're drying.
Your diagonal measurement should be. Soyou can take and we would do this
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out on on traffic scenes and stuffwhere we were figuring you know, radiuses
of curves and things like this.When we're doing traffic investigations, all that
stuff comes into place, and that'spart of any traffic homicide investigation, things
like that that all uses that marksthey got on the road or when there's
accidents or maybe all that comes intoplay. I can do that, but
I can't tell you what seven timesnine is. That's what sixty three is
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it? Because you know what ninetimes ten is, well ninety yeah.
I mean give me to tens.The nine, seven, the nine,
the sevens and the eighths are whereI have a hard time. But it
comes back to she'd point to meand I'd go, ah, yeah,
and dude, it just embarrassed me. And that's one of those core memories
it and I go back and Igo it's things like that that can actually
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it can, And to this dayit's somewhere in my brain it says,
I'm not learning that. I'm justnot going to learn that. So you
know, core memories, man,I'm telling you it's And the thing is
is his age. That's this iswhen all this is happening, you know
that preteen time in ten years.That's when you become self conscious about things
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or when things that that kind ofstuff matters, I said, So it's
it's uh, it's better to talkabout it then than just let a whole
lifetime go by and not deal withit. You know. It's ah.
And the thing is is when you'regrowing up. In the last show,
we talked about, you know,conversations I have with him about growing up
being a man is is you haveto be cognizant of how your your opinions
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of others, and how you expressthose opinions and how you you know,
I don't tolerate a bully. Iwon't have a bully. I'm the anti
bully. I mean, you knowthat's that's uh. Well, you know
one of the reasons we got inlaw enforcement was to fight that mindset.
The but you have to be carefulnot to become one, you know,
in unintentionally in the process. Yeah, I mean you sit around and you
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have to weigh that all the time. In law enforcement has a hard time
with that today because we're reviewed inlaw enforcement reviewed as being bullies and and
all the bad things people and thereare there are there get into law enforcement
because they were bullied their whole lifeand now they want the power to be
one and that that does happen.It's rare, it's a small number,
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it's not you know, they don'tlast long usually. I've had this philosophy
in life and about law enforcement.There's three kinds, three kinds of cops.
And this is over simplistic, butit's the one I've been working with.
There's three kinds of cops there.You've heard this from me before.
Is there's the kid in school whowas bullied and he is looking here.
She is looking for a way toas empowering themselves so that they can get
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back. You know, it wasa person a little man syndrome or whatever,
who was a bullied, who wasweak in school and was picked on,
and they get in law enforcement.There's a way to get back,
all right, And then they do. They will. They will screw with
people because they can. They usethat power as an aphrodisiac. They use
that as a as a tool toempower themselves, make them feel better about
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themselves. And you see it.Those people are easy to pick out.
Then there was the bully, thekid that grew up being a bully.
He bullied people and he realized thatI'm not going to be able to continue
to do this. My whole life. But I ain't become a cop and
I can keep being a bully.And so they go around and they are
bullies, and those are pretty easyto pick out. So you've got the
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kid that was bullied in the bully, and so they are in this for
the wrong reason. But then thereis your true protector, and that is
the kid who took up for thekid who was being bullied against the bully,
or the one who would say somethingwhen they saw something, the one
who would get in a fight.I've had my mouth busted wide open because
I stood up for a kid inmiddle school against another kid and we all
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knew each other, but one waspicking on the other and one of us
has stopped me because I'll be goahead, and they punched me in the
mouth and I had braces and cutmy mouth open. We went and we
came, We went back to beingfriends after that. I remember doing that
a couple of times in school,and that was something that steered me this
way. Those cops are the bestcops. They're the ones that see see
the righteous in the world, andthey try to be part of this.
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They want to be one of therighteous. They want to be one of
the protectors. They want to makea difference and of those and the thing
is is the others are the onesthat the ones who shouldn't be in law
enforcement are the ones that make therest of us look bad. You know,
there trying to do a good thing, and you know we're all rougher
on the edges. We all saythings that probably don't want to say.
A mixed company is how we dealwith the stress. Is how we deal
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with with all the crap in theworld that we have to see and we
have to be part of, andwe have to tolerate in this judicial system.
That's that's the best in the world, but it still sucks. There's
no real true justice in this system. It's just but it's the best we've
been able to come up with.Yeah, I agree that it's it's all
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Yeah, sure we are. We'lltalk well, yeah, I mean it's
it's a Paul the Fishman bitten thisweek. I'll tell you what, man,
I want to hear your See now, you cannot be a truly good
fisherman without being somewhat of a I'mnot gonna say a liar, but uh,
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a positive thinking exaggerator. Maybe yeah, a little bit, you know,
based on the weather. Yeah,their bite, Yeah, they're biting.
Yeah. And you know I've learnedthis to anytime just like this,
well, this this week with theweather conditions, they're definitely, they're definitely.
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Yeah. This time of year,this time of year, they're gonna
feed. The fish are gonna befeeding. You can get those hot in
the morning. Morning and evenings aregonna be good. Places like Lake Talquin
where fish tend to school. That'sright. They have been schooling and they
have been and that's gonna continue throughthe summer. When you get the shad
spawns and those big schools of shadout there still water, when you don't
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have the high, high winds andrough conditions, you can uh, you
can see them, yeah, youcan see up on the surface. And
there is nothing more fun than gettingin a big school of school of bass.
That's right, that's right. That'sso fun fishing right there. That
kind of stuff's going on. Thepan fishing is as good this time of
year. Cat fishing is good thistime of year. Yeah. I had
a buddy was doing some cat fishingup on Seminole and he's he calls them
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man like a like a thirty fortypound flatted several of them piggins. You
know, I've never caught a flatheadreally fish. I've never fished for them,
you know, so I've never caughtone. I've accidentally caught them on
a bush hook now because they wereeating the channel trying to eat the little
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channel cat that was on the bushhook. You know, they only hit.
They won't hit dead bait for themost part. They're going to like
the caught one flipping for bass andin a thick amount of hwh drill and
set the hook. And I'm thinking, I got me a ten or twelve
pounder on coming in after five minutes, get it in. It's a big
old flathead. Hey, they're goodeating. I know that I have eaten
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it. I've caught numerous channel catchannel catfish on crank baits. They will
hit it crankly. So with this, with this new four facing sonar,
I'm starting to learn, you know, what kind of what a catfish looks
like and what a bass you know. And the other day I was I
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was, I was fishing a longI'm like, that looks like a mass
I they were there and he byI watched him hit it about seven pound
catfish. I was like, nowmore what that looks like? Well,
that's cool though, that you cando and suspended, Yeah, over twenty
foot of water about nine foot down, just swimp this cruise along and I
thought it was it was a bash, just hanging out and catfish. I'll
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be well, I tell people this, and uh, you kind of look
at you funny. But when Iwas a kid, I caught numerous flounder
in the Apalachicola River above the bridgebetween the bridge and Jim woodruff damn flounder.
What Yeah, we used to catchWe used to above the it bridge,
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No, No, above the HighwayNinty Bridge in Chattahoochee. We've caught.
We used to catch flounder a lot. In the summertime. We would
catch flounder bass fishing in Apples ColaRiver. A buddy of mine caught a
tarpin in the where the golf powerdischarge. Where that where the old golf
power Yeah, Cole Burning Plant wheremy granddaddy retired from, just south of
the Trustle, just downriver from therailroad Trustle, where the where the golf
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power is there. Buddy mine caughta about a juvenile tarpin about about a
two and a half foot long tarpinuh bass fishing in there. And I've
heard stories. I've always heard thestories. I've never seen any proof of
it about guys catching bull shark uhdown around Aspalagi and uh, I've heard
of it. Yeah, I've neverI've never seen evidence or pictures or whatever
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else, but I've heard of that. But yeah, flounder will absolutely come
up that river and you never catcha little one. There are always big
ones. Wow. So yeah,it's fun stuff. And this time of
year is uh when all that stuffhappens, when the water gets warm and
they start, you know, there'sthe stripers this time of year starting to
look for the springs. If youknow where there's a spring where the water
temperature is a little bit lower.They have to have that cooler temperature to
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survive, to survive the summer.So uh, this time, the stripers
they'll go away in the way upSpring Creek, way up Spring Creek.
I don't know that there's you know, there's several springs around like someone old
little marked or used to be markedand used to be marked with. You
can't fish here during certain times ofthe year, during the summer when it
gets do they still do they stillenforce that. Yeah. Long, I
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still see the buoys out there markingthe springs. Yeah, and I watch
wonder if they still enforced any kindof regulations to keep them from because all
the strippers in the lake are gangedup in that spot. They'll get in.
And there's a lot of springs thatare not marked too, but they'll
get up in those springs. AndI was noticing a new regulation that passed
in uh In in Louisiana where Charlieand I go out there red fish fishing.
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So they've they've lowered the they've loweredthe daily bag limit on red fish
in Louisiana too, and they canall have to be in the same slot
that we're dealing with here, whichis eighteen to twenty seven inches. They
won't let them keep any big onesanymore over twenty seven is now. So
if you go out and los Annafishing, be sure to check the regulations
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we got. There's a lot ofpeople here that pull their boat out and
go out there and fish. Soit's four fish a day for red fish
a day between eighteen and twenty seven, and you can no longer keep that.
They used to let you keep onebull red one red fish over twenty
seven in Louisiana. They've stopped thatit's gonna hurt the guide and and they
do not let the guides keep redfishanymore. So period, the guide or
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the captain or the crewmen of theboat can't keep fish, cannot keep redfish.
If they catch it, they haveto legally they have to throw it
back so their limit doesn't count towardsthe boat limit. They are not allowed
to put them on the boat.They said they can catch them and demonstrate
house done. They got to releasethat fish. They can't throw it in
alive. Yeah, well, younot catching enough. I'm sure a good
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guy. I'll make sure you gotenough well, because I mean we go
out The beauty of going out therewas always that you can actually keep a
ton of fish right left there.It was worthwhile to spring go out there
to bring back red fish to youknow, to eat. Has the change
anything on the trout limit. Ididn't see anything on the trout out there,
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and there had a very liberal troutlimit. There's like, I think
it was fifteen or something like thatout there in this trout limit. So
I didn't see anything posted. Idid. I did notice that red fish
that went into effect June the twentieth. So I want to go back.
I'm ready to go back. I'mjust working on something. I don't know
what I'm waiting on. I'm goingwith y'all. I'll go. Yeah,
it'll be good, that'll be good. I've never I've heard about it,
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but I've never been over there really, and it's well, there's a reason
I want to go out there inthe ocean where I can't see lands.
I guess you are so far fromthe ocean, so you can't like fish.
You can't see the places we fishout there. Get the places we
fish out there? Looks you lookyou would think if you looked around,
you would think you were in agrassy lake. Looks like Lake Simonole used
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to look back up in Chimney Island. There's a tree line off in the
distance. And then beyond that treeline. Yeah, that's that's where.
That's where the place you don't wantto go, but it's you know where
it's at. It's basically in thatdelta out there, or we went out
of Barrataria, Barratario, whatever youcall it down there, just due south
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of New Orleans, we're fishing onLake Salvador where you actually can see New
Orleans. You see the skyline ofNew Orleans. So we're fishing some on
Lake Salvador and then out in theBayous and stuff back in there. And
it's just vast. That's the biggestdifference. And that's why they have a
four fish limit. They have somuch more territory, so much more environment
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habitat than we do. We've gotthe little strip along the coast basically,
and a little bit of estuary stuffhere and there scattered along our coast.
They have a vast, just vastamount of space that's all brackish and to
you what, you go out here, and if you don't know how to
get back where you came from,you might not come back. They just
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after going enough times now I cansort of tell you where we are.
But yeah, it's uh, Ican look at that garment or that humming
bird on my boat and tell youwhere we are. I really really really
enjoyed it. I think, Ihonestly think Paul, if we if we
took a trip out there, wecould take we could take my boat and
take a trip out there and probablyspend we'd probably have to spend a good
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day of moving around to find thefish. But then once you did,
you probably could do pretty well withoutwithout a guide. But if you you
don't need who needs a fishing guide? I mean you, well, it's
like anything else. So but I'vebeen out there with a guide, so
I kind of know what to lookfor whatever else is. One of the
things I tell people about a guideis you want to go fishing somewhere new,
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go ahead and pay that money,Go ahead and get that get that
guide experience, because you're you're gettinga whole bunch of that. Guys.
And I never tell me I likecoming with you, because it's chief for
me to pay you come with youonce a quarter than to buy a boat
and have them payment on a boat. I said, well that does make
sense. Yeah, that's true.It's absolutely true. See a guy like
me who hardly ever goes fishing,that just wants to go fishing. Sometimes
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tell the kid family fishing. Smarterfor me to go, pay you to
go take the family fishing than itis for me to go invest in all
that. And it's not that youI can go buy go buy the nicest
boat I want to buy, buyall the fishing tackle. I want to
buy. What am I going todo with it? I don't know what
to do with it. I don'tknow where to go. I don't know
the techniques, I don't know thestuff. I don't know where to fish
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about it. That's the value ofhaving a fishing guide like you, or
going to eis Enna and they know, we know what's bout in this week,
we know where they're buying. Thoseguys are on the radio talking to
each other. They talk to eachother afterwards, probably somewhere in some little
local bar, and they go anywhere. Yeah, and they call each other,
Hey, we're getting fish up here. And then you move to where
those fish are. So you're you'recramming a lot of fun and a lot
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of experience, a lot of successinto a day or two. Of course,
when we go out there to wego, well, they they provide
a house and then we go stayin the house and then on the water.
Yes, yeah, yeah, that'sall right. Well I think that's
it. We'll see all that stuff.