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February 8, 2025 51 mins
In today's episode, the gang is all together and they discuss the great fishing that is on the horizon, and the stories of growing up along the rivers of the Panhandle. 

Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.  

Thank you to Tobacco Road Band for the music Drop An Anchor

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And welcome to the Talent Outdoor Show.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Charlie, I'm j D, I'm Fred Captain faul Tyre,
and I'm Grabbed.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
I feel like I just was sitting here because I
came in last night and I recorded some stuff. If
you're in the Doathing market on the quarter hour, instead
of hearing a bunch of ads, you're gonna hear one
ad from our best sponsor up there. The other ads
are gone and it will be me talking about the
importance of some training stuff, and then the second half

(00:32):
of that will be on the three quarter hour mark.
So pick up on the rest of app just trying
to fill some are time up there, which if you
are in the Doathing market and you you know anyway,
we'll talk at the bottom of the hour about that.
Because you tell how folks don't get to listen to
the bottom segment. There's a five minute segment that only
our Doathing market or our streaming right grant streaming audience

(00:55):
gets to see listen to. You can see it on YouTube,
but you can hear it on the or streaming. There's
so many ways to get this show content that it's scary.
I'm gonna talking about Hey, I watched your show, and
I'm gonna wait a minute. You watched it. Oh, you're
one of the eighty people that watches his YouTube channel.

(01:15):
We get done, We get done here today. I'll come
back in here somebody before I drag my butt back home,
and I'll knock out the YouTube thing. And I know
I'm doing it for a very small, very select audience,
because nobody really watches it except a handful of folks.
But if we don't do it, I've got a couple
of several of those people.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
What I had, a couple of sorites that watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, right, just for laughs.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
This brings to mind. I walked in the door just
a minute ago, and I love it when JD brings
Dixie to work. You bring that, he brings his dog.
And you know, she spends most of day either holding
the floor down, holding the floor down, and she will
get up and she will go greet certain people, and
she greets different people different ways. Well, what I get

(02:07):
every time I walk in is a big old grin,
a big old smilele.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
She is the funniest thing. With that smiling, I can leave,
I can leave and go be gone from here, go
running an erran for an hour and come back and
I get the same smiles, like she's just happy this evening.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
With dogs, I don't think dogs have a sense of time.
You know. It's you can be gone out the door
for three minutes and you get this excited dog. And
you can be gone for three days and you get
the same excited dog. But when I came in, I
always come in, Hey, big girl, come here, And she
smiles and comes over and I rub around her head
and her ears and scratch it, scratch scratch her back,
and you know, she just you know, shivers a little

(02:43):
bit and enjoys it. And I was walking and I
was telling the young man behind the counter, I said,
and now I see only children and dogs can you
get away with saying hey, big girl, come here? Good
guy's big guy? Oh you're so big. It's a big girl, Yes,
a good girl. You can't do that with women.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
The other thing you can't do And I don't know
what age.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
You have to quit doing that with girls, but about thirteen.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, you know you can. You can lock a dog
in a cage, you know, for thirty minutes and then
come back and the dog's all excited to see I
tried that with my wife and it did not work.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
We'll go home and go hey, big girl.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
So we got a got a new addition to the
family yesterday.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Gratulations, Paul, Paul.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
What your grandkids call you?

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Fred, They're coming Pop Pop. I call my wife Lolly, Lolly,
let's here you go.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And uh so we got Marshall McKee Conrad. This is
Grayson's Grayson and Christie's okay son and our first first grandson.
Uh named after my dad. So obviously got some big
shoes to phil.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yeah, but that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
We're excited.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I'm happy for you. I'm gonna get me some of
them things one of these days.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I wreckon.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
I got two kids. I got two kids getting married
this year, one in two weeks.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
So I got to tell you, grandchildren are so much
better than children.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
I mean yeah, I actually like you can sugar you
can get them all sugared up, and can sugar it
up and send them home. Oh yeah, that's the payback.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
In my experience with grandchildren are awesome. It's just it's
the kids that have the grandkids that start to become
a little more difficult. At that point in time, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
Well, I was just gonna say, as the twenty seven
year old married with kids, when we received the children back,
as after they're all sugared up.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Lord, Yeah, well we've done through that. That's called now.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
It's now it's in our turn.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
That's called handing it, handing it down.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
I reckon in thirty years there will be a natural
cycle the same thing.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
We're like kids now we have the we have once
once a week spend the night with grandchildren, you know,
so they come with us when I find out when
it is on the way home, I stop at publics
and go straight to the cupcake isle.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
And and right before they go home. Here those are
when you go home, let the I and off the others.
Fun stuff. Bo.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
You can like a boy. You said you had a
grand son. You can for you can get hey, big boy,
come here. You can do that all the way up.
You can do that as an adult.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
One of my buddies, well, hey, big man, hey, big boy,
come here, big boy. You know we say that. You know, uh,
you can't do that to a woman.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
If I ever see you in a back alley saying
come in to big boy.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
You know you better come here.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Going there.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
You gonna eat your comb bered.

Speaker 7 (05:50):
I like, I like the way you talk.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah. Soever the hospital yesterday, you know, we're going to
either baby, and my wife says she wanted to look
all good. Can you hand me that lipstick? And I
handed or some uh what I thought was lipstick turned
out was super glue.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
She hadn't spoken to me since.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah, all right, don't mess with the hornet. That's their
one horn horn toot for the day. So you bought that,
you bought the new grand boy gun.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yet you need to get up with me for you
what I was gonna do. I got in here a
little early and then got to talking about something else. Grant.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, you gotta buy him a gun. I know.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Gotta got him a gun. Yeah, we got some got some.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Little twenty two's in there, a little four ten shotgun
or something.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, gotta get it.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Getting hooked up.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
I was thinking about it a r you know.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yeah, go ahead, get him on the first they are, you.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Know, maybe get a silencer on there. Maybe get up
there's nothing wrong with that and sundiery tip bullets.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
And all four of my kids got a All four
of my kids got a cricket upon their upon their
entrance into the world. They all have the little miniaturized
twenty two single shots, and they all have they each
one of them have their own so they can hand
them down to their kids. And they're not you know,
they're not crazy. Expended a couple a couple hundred bucks
and and they get something they can learn on and

(07:09):
then pass down to their kids.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well that's an idea.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, we'll see. I think about things like this.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
You're sitting kind of I am that kind of guy.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I bought mine twenty two pistols to start learning how
to shoot a handgun early on. Got of course they
sit in the drawer because now, yeah, they're like, I
want shoot a real gun. But uh again, that's the
thing about having kids and guns. A lot of people,
you know, worry about having guns in the house. And
you know, we said this, I don't know how many
times on the shows.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Make it a mystery too.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
It right, if it's not a mystery, if it's if
you familiarize them with guns and let them shoot as
early as they can.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
And as and as often as they like. When they ask, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Want to shoot, Okay, Well, then you take them shooting
and then they can you know, now you get into
like if you're into the air soft world and the
kids are playing with different things like that, you got
to keep the guns. I mean, there's there's some there's
some unique things that you need to be concerned about
as far as gun safety goes, because you can't mix
and match that it becomes a problem, you know, I have.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
I do have issues sometime with some people look at
me like I'm crazy when I say this about the
especially the ones that look like a real gun. The
NERF guns that are that are the you know, uh whatever,
NERF dark guns or whatever's one thing. But uh, even
BB guns. I remember, man if I when I had
a BB gun when I was a kid and we
lived out in the woods and it wasn't nothing for

(08:31):
me to get my BB gun and go outside and shoot.
And uh, you know, I have to say something to
the adult there, I'm gonna go shoot my BB gun
or can I go shoot my BB gun or whatever,
And it usually came along with don't shoot the dog,
don't shoot the horses, don't shoot the cows, don't shoot
don't break the windows die, you know, don't shoot the
pretty birds. You shoot the little brown ones, but don't
shoot the red birds and you know all of that.
I get that whole that speech the whole time. But

(08:53):
I better be treating that like a real gun, because
if I got caught, you know, not handling the BB
guns safe. Uh, it was a problem from my rear end.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Well, my son has a fully automatic a K forty
seven gas operated BB gun, and you know they'll go
out and they go out by the pool. Now I
have solar panels in the backyards. I have to be
really really don't you don't even don't you uh, you know,
and Jimmy, but you know, gun safety comes into play
even with the BB guns. Don't stand. They don't point

(09:24):
anything you're not looking to shoot or anything like that.
Now I do. I traded a carnal long ago, and
it had what looked like a BB hole in the
rear tail light and one of the windshields on my
loader before I got to wind the glass replace had
a very distinct look look like that. I had a
bunch of other broke places, but it had. And so, Son,
you're gonna be listening to the show one day trying

(09:45):
to figure out what Daddy was all about it. I
know what you did, but I love you anyway, just
replace it.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
It'll be all right.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
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Speaker 5 (10:53):
And we're back.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, CJ. You proba good thing. JD said on a break.
Probably good thing you didn't if you did, And I
know you're going to deny it to the day you die,
just like I still deny stuff that I did not do,
absolutely any circumstances that I do as a child. I'm
still denying it. See that's how I didn't deny it works, right,

(11:16):
You deny it until you believe your story and then
and then the logical liar there.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I think that's how you pass the PolyGram.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, I mean you just I will tell I will
tell you that there are things that I absolutely believe happened.
And it's because I told my You know, uh and
JD and I have experience this. We've been involved in
stuff together before. But you you talk, start talking about stuff,
and one half won't remember something or didn't see it.
But then the other person says, yeah, this is what happened. Well,

(11:44):
all of a sudden, that other person that didn't remember
it or didn't see it, now in their mind's eye
it's there, it's and it's and and before long. That's
why we try to separate everybody and say don't talk
about it, and we get all the different versions.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
But if you don't, I still tell the story.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
You were in an officer in ball shooting where we
both shot at the bad guy and in a house,
and there, apparently according to you and everybody else, So
there there was chicken, a rooster in the house and
a wiener dog. And I don't remember either one. I
was otherwise occupied. I don't remember the wiener dog running

(12:20):
out of the house. I don't remember the chicken flying around.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
The winder dog went in the door with us when
we the door, okay, when we kicked the door in,
the winder dog was he was first one in the.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
How do you go into a I mean, I can
understand overlooking a wiener dog. I mean, it's just not
an uncommon thing.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
But the window didn't realize that that that the was
anything wrong. It's probably everybody was yelling and stuff, and
he's probably used to it that point.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
But a chicken in the house flying around is something
I would know.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
They don't fly.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
He was running around. He was just trying.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Even if he's running.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
There was a Banni rooster in the house.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
If you've got a Banni rooster in the house and
his name ain't Fred Conrad, I don't see how you
are humans?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
That this true, very true, small loud, you know you
are a many rooster.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
I was focused. I was focused my attention was focused elsewhere,
and it wasn't. It wasn't one of the things.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Just didn't you miss a chicken?

Speaker 4 (13:13):
I just you ever had anybody trying to shoot you?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Friend?

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Have you ever shot anybody? When you have somebody trying
to shoot you and you shoot them, you probably ain't
gonna remember a chicken.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I was being there.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Well, And but there's there's some ma it wasn't a
chicken when it happened.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Just I'm telling you there's things that you remember differently,
which is why when we when we talk about buying
right to bear insurance and things like that, or you
in the in the criminal defense business, someone who's involved
in a critical incident, you tell them to shut up,
because here's the thing is is if you and don't
be listening to what people are telling you, and don't

(13:54):
be looking around trying to figure it out, just just
take a time out, take a deep breath, try to
try to restructure what happened the best you can, but
keep it to your dead gum self. Unless you know
there's two suspects you there's one there because you got
them to stay for one weason reason or another, and
the other one got away. You need to be telling
somebody what the other one look like you need. We

(14:15):
need to stop that person from getting away and hurting
somebody else. But you need to hush.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Right right along those lines of a nice little segue
here starting to Matt a little while ago, we we
are cooking up a class out here, Uh huh that
I'll be teaching along with him from the legalities stands
your ground self defense? What do you do in that situation?
From from from my vantage point, not from y'all, from

(14:41):
the legal what happens afterwards?

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Right, that'd be good.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
I'd like to sit on that.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
So anyway, that's that's coming. It's uh, maybe March is
what we're talking about. Okay, cool, So to be along
with right to bear.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, and if you don't think that stuff's important, folks,
And you can drive down from for this if you
want to. But if you don't think that's important. Just
last night, there were two people killed and a couple
more injured right over right down the road from us
at a convenience store. There was the beard delivery guy
and the store clerk was murdered in a robbery in

(15:15):
Gaston County last night. I'm going home on the Interstate
needed gas, and on my way home, a Gaston County
deputy comes screaming by me, and you know, I can
tell the difference between a ten eighteen code three run
that matters and one that don't. That one mattered. He
was getting it. And on the interstate they got a

(15:36):
lot of lights on their cars and it looked like
a hovercraft with all the blue lights under it. And
then by the time I got home, I saw that
there had on Facebook there had just been a double
homicide at a gas station. They had pictures of it.
Rodney Moore, one of the locals, had some live streaming
stuff across the street, and there was an Engling truck
over there, delivery truck. And then they finally put out

(15:58):
some suspect photos in the vehicle photo Because you get
caught doing that, it's just a matter of time before
they get him. Did they get him, I don't know.
I have that this morning, but I will tell I
will tell you that had I been going that way
and I pulled into that gas station to get gas,
you know, uh, that's this kind of stuff that you
could walk in on. And so for people who go, yeah,

(16:21):
I have a gun, but I don't carry it, or
you know, I don't think about this stuff. I don't
consider the legalities, or I don't I'm not I'm not ready.
I want to you know where. I'm just telling you
you better be prepared, because.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
As gun owners and people that think about self defense,
we all kind of have our gun fight imagined in
our head how it's going to go down, when it's
gonna happen. I gotta you know, I really need to
carry a gun because I'm going to a certain part
of town and doing a certain you know, at a
certain hour or whatever. And that's how we all play
that that fault in our head. But in reality, we

(16:56):
do not get to choose the time and place every
from It's virtually never do we get to choose the
time and place, which is why somebody said, you carry
a gun, would you in here? And I'm like, yeah,
I carry a gun to the to the dagun mailbox,
because I don't get to pick and choose when that
when that's gonna happen to Hoven never does. But I

(17:17):
certainly don't know it's not gonna be at a time
and place of my choosing. When I'm sitting there in
my all my hunting gear with a rifle in my hand.
It ain't gonna happen. Then you know it's gonna happen
when you least expect it.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
And you talk about you cheach situational awareness to you.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I've heard you say yeah, well and having a plan.
We talked about this on Preston Show. We talked about
this in classes, and we talked about just constantly. It's
just being aware of your surroundings. And like Jed he
just said, I mean when I go to feed my birds,
I put this like forty eight nine millimeter in my
hoster on my waistband. I mean, I have a spare magazine,
but I got you know, I got fifteen. Dad gave

(17:51):
sixteen rounds, you know. And if I think I can,
I'll be all right at the barn. But you know,
I just you know, I worry about I worry. I
don't worry. I will tell you that I feel freer
when I have a firearm than when I don't, because
I have one less concern. Now, some people anti gun people,

(18:12):
people on the left, people that are just just I
could never hurt anybody, you know, or I just don't
think it's right for you to you know, fight back,
just give them what they want, everything behind. Those people
live in a prison life. They live with a suppressed,
repressed lifestyle where they have to actually consider because I
have a gun and I know I can use it,
and I may not win that fight. I won't give them.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Like a shooting back.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
No, no, it's gone. But the thing is is just
I I feel like I can go anywhere that I
reasonably need to go and do anything I need to
reasonably do. And I carry myself a different way because
I know that, you know, if I.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Have a pistol in a pocket, you know, for whatever
it happened last week that across the street over here
to Fly and Jay, some guy out there is all
squirrel and I'm getting gassed because cheap gas is cheap.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Gas you're gonna get.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
You know.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
He comes this dude and he's obviously he's strung out
on something. He's trying to get money out of people.
Just having that gun in my pocket pumping gas. I
gave the guy a looking for whatever reason. I'm not
that unimposing of a guy. But he took a look
at me and went the other way. He didn't right,
And I don't know. It's because of the confidence I hadn't.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Because it absolutely has a lot to do with it.
I mean, it's just, uh, you know, it absolutely.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Has a lot to do with it. The fact that
you make eye contact with someone, you look at them,
and they see you looking obviously you didn't cast your
your view down and look submissive, you look dominant. You know, well,
if this that might be why he left, He goes,
I ain't into that, mister.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
You know that crazier name.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
I mean, one recognized another.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
I can remember before first time I got in trouble
with Willie Meggs when I was a prosecutor and I
had written this recommendation on a juvenile that the Department
of Juvenile Justice wanted to put this guy in some
sort of rehab you know thing for he had beaten
a teacher up in the middle of the class and
just pummeled a woman and calls major damage. And she

(20:20):
wanted to send him this non judicial rehab thing. And
I wrote my response, you had to write it back
and turn it in, and I wrote, have you been
smoking crack all the thing? And sent it back to
the thing. And I got a complaint. You know, mister
Meggs called in and if you write this, Yes, sir,
why did you write it?

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Valley question?

Speaker 3 (20:41):
What's this? All? That explained it to him? He said you?
He said, okay, yeah, all right, carry on, he said.
One piece of advice he gave me was always make
him think you crazy and they will not mess with you.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
He's done a good job of that, says the guy
who wears Halloween costumes into the courtroom.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
They don't mess with Halloween.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I looking like a chicken.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
This.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Well, now you got other people up there, and now
you've set a trend. Now there's other people doing the
same thing up there, no matter of you know, who
can who can that? Gacilius. It's like we're gonna give
y all one day. I can tell you that. Like
you go to Jackson. Can I remember back in the
day that my uncle Herman was, you know, he can
wear cowboy boots to court. But I think he was
about the only one that was allowed to wear cowboy

(21:22):
boots to court because he was Herman theremore And there
was some other attorney walked up in there with cowboy
boots on, just told him came his court, renna be better.
The right shoes on his feet. Cowboy boots. But herman's
a cowboys, so I mean he's uh.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
We had a young harder a few years go in
front of Judge Fleury and he came in with a
seersucker suit. Judge Fleury gave him what for and he
pointed over at me. Of course I was wearing a
seersucker suit, and he's like, he doesn't count.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Always rent a tucks and he'll have that one. You
just got to understand there's different strokes for different folks
with different standards. Man. I mean it's like, uh, yeah,
he's a fixture. You just have to we forgive him
because something ain't right with him.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
His heart.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
My wife said that to me, bless your heart. Well,
I mean, you know people, I hear people on the
internet all the time trying to explain bless your heart,
and there's so many different bless your hearts there. There's
a lot of different ones, darling heart.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Justin Nonley was explaining that on the video. Just just
last night I was watching Hey, We'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
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(23:44):
Like I said, better stuff on the break sometimes and
I get to go back and listen to it all
over again after this, so does Grant. Of course, you
probably just throw it in that that template you have
over there and go back and make sure it all
fits round.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
I've got a pretty quick process down.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, I have gotten through lot of it.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well. It used to take me an hour and a
half to do the YouTube thing because I'm stupid, and
then I and then I got it down to it's
pretty dog on quick now because but I will go
through and I'm trying. I'm trying to get to where
we can I can go back and pull our funniest stories,
you know, and do it, you know, and just do
shorts and then put those out and then you know,

(24:23):
that would be cool. Wouldn't stream on on you know,
iHeart or anything like that, but it would be at
least has.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Bewn well N said.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Thing is if looking for ways to push things out
to different different platforms, because a lot of stuff we
do is funny, and it's just a matter of digging
through three hundred and ninety seven after the day shows
and finding those Not all of them was on YouTube,
but the but anyway, so.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I don't know if that one's gonna make it on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I'm gonna go back and listen to it. I missed
half of it on the break because my brain was
on this phone over here, so I was reaching out
about something.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
But so.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
We're just talking to our doathing crowd and you've got
you folks are special. Bless your heart. You get to
we just had that conversation. Bless your heart. It's a
good Bless your heart. The people go right listen to
your show all the time. Will bless your heart. To
find something else to do. But we are looking up
in the Dothan area. If you notice on the quarter
in a three quarter hour we're doing some different stuff,

(25:25):
it would be really cool because you know, our our
our arrangement in Dothan is that you know, basically J.
D and I pay for all of our shows. This
is not you know, nobody pays us to do this.
We we actually our organization pays to have these shows
on the air and we get we get paid back
by having advertisers. And so our goal is to ultimately

(25:46):
to have a good time and to break even. Well
in Dothan, we're not breaking even just yet. We would
love some partners in the community. If there's somebody out
there that and we take trade, we will take uh.
I mean, we're we like to barter in trade.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
So I mean goats, cows, chickens, eggs, eggs.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I don't I don't need eggs, man, I got eggs,
eggs laying chickens.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Well I brought you. Yeah, yeah, we'll.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Bring that carton back. I'll fill it up for you again.
So the homestead movement's a big deal. So yeah, we
that's that's kind of where I'm getting some of this
from because I will, I am willing to trade. But
if we can get something for the business, we'd love
to have more advertisers. I mean, if you're listening to this,
you're part of our target audience and chances, I mean,

(26:38):
our our audience is a select corner of humanity really,
I mean it's it's not everybody, but it's if you're
in oath and you're listening to this on a conservative
talk radio station, so we think a lot alike, or
or you're crazy and you're listening to this just so
you can walk around and be be mad angry and

(27:00):
your Trump arrangement syndrome, you know, you know, maybe you
just need.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
Hatred in your world, and so we do everything we can.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Give you something to hate us for. Then if that's
the case.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
It know much matter to me.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, but if you if you but you can reach out,
I mean, you can reach me at Charlie at Talent
Training dot com. If you want to think about advertising,
or you call the shop, I'd give you the number,
but I have to read it. But just google Talent
Range of Dothan. Call the number and say, hey, tell Charlie,
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Speaker 4 (27:30):
Know five zero five nine seven seven five five zero.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
No, No, that's well. You could call Tylehusee if you.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Want to go to get the Oathan from there, can't you?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Uh? I never call the sure you can Charlie eight
five seven two eight fifteen thirty five? Is mysel? How
about that? You see the JDS is eighty five?

Speaker 4 (27:53):
My phone rings enough?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I'm just going forward. Mind the years one day, bro
about two three days?

Speaker 3 (27:59):
And see you can die a start like that?

Speaker 4 (28:03):
I like, lovey, you probably can't. You got that one
in one nine hundred number, don't you still? Well?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
You talking about seeing that guy at the gas pumps down?
Did you give him a card? Because he's probably gonna.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Need some help.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
He might if you didn't look like any money.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Well that was the thing is he didn't have any money.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
So if he had some money, I would have.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
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on the job. We'll be right back.

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we do have a guest that the last show or

(29:46):
two I talked about the book Life on Apple Act
Coola by Jim McLellan. It's a ten year old book.
I talked to him the other day. Turns out that
he's like a year older than me. He was at
Chippola about the same time frame. Uh, he did graduate

(30:07):
college one day, but it wasn't that year that he
wrote about in the book. He's because he's a Blunstown
country boy and he's back here in Tyler hassee now
And I reached out to him and he was gonna
come be on the show today, but he had something
come up. He's gonna be here next Friday, hopefully, and
uh for the Saturday show and well hopefully, Fred you

(30:30):
were gonna, I think you were gonna try to read
his book between now and then, if you could.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
I'm going to questions.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Uh, now we might let you ask.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Thought it was kind of funny that I was just
thumbing through it, and I opened up the book and
the first one was was about sucker fishing. And we've
talked about sucker fishing on the somebody said, somebody customer
came in here to that you were talking about cart fishing.
I'm like, no, I was talking about sucker fishing. I
don't remember. I don't remember saying anything.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I hear suckers are better than jack man.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
They're good, they're good.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Well he might the suckers again, the red horse suckers.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Red horse suckers and uh and pond suckers or humpy
suckers they call them. It's a different kind of there's
two different species of sucker fish. One that in fast
moving watar and one that lives in like o cheesy
ponds full of the little what we called humpy's. They
got kind of an arts on the back. They call
them different things around the country.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yep, that's it.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
I don't know what the real name for them is
there there there, but it's a it's a sucker fish
and kind of got a mouth like a carp. But
they're not and they may be some of the cart family.
I don't know, but they're red horse suckers are fine. Eating.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
But where'd you find the book? At Charlie, I'd like
to pick one up.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
I was standing in the line.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
I always to feel like I'm fishing a singer verse
of a song. I was standing in line at the bookstore.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
So, uh, I'm done with standing in lines. And I
never get it.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah. And at CVS of all places, and Marianna and
I look over there and there's this history publisher something
History Publishers, and they've got like aviation in Florida over
the you know, they got these old airplanes and stuff
I like to read, you know, and it's it's and
I saw one of his life life on Apple at
Color or something like that, and and it was just

(32:15):
on this little kiosk there for further it was. It
was there where if they're busy at the pharmacy drop
off and pick offline, you know, if there's like eight
ten people in line, that's where they put the books, yeah,
because they figure you're gonna be there a minute. So
and it looked like that most of them have been
browsed through a few times because it gets busy. And
I picked that up. And when we checked out, I

(32:37):
threw that on the counter and I got my blood
pressure medication, my cholesterol medication, and a good book. And
it's and and after talking to him, he started out
writing a blog. And so this was basically it's just
like a bunch of chapters that are basically stories that
you would blog where you would tell a story. And
it's kind of like, this is sort of like what

(32:57):
we're you know, talking about trying to get some of
our best stories together. Here. It's the same kind of
thing where you know, he's telling these stories and it's uh,
it's not like I mean, you can just read one
or two and then put it down and then come
back and read one or two more. It took It
took me a couple of evenings. I don't sit and
lead the light on in bed and read very often.
I generally scroll on my phone now because of my attentions.

(33:20):
Man has gone to you know, wearing a hand basket.
But but I did in fact, uh, yeah, got about
eighty of them.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah that's beautiful area, man chat ECHI all the way down.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
To the well, And honestly, I thought it was very
It was it was an opportunity I was reading because
of you being up on the lake all the time
and JD growing up just north of where Jim on
the same river, and I said, well, here's a kindred
spirit for this show turns out. I think when it
comes in next week, you're gonna you're gonna find it

(33:52):
just another you know, It's like when Jason King came
in from a cheesy pond and would you talk about
Pooky and all the stuff they do. It's the same
same kind of deal, man. I mean, you know, we
don't we don't always bring in a Peter Sweitzer, but sometimes,
but sometimes times. But the thing is is, you know,
I think, you know, you look around and you find

(34:16):
other people that like to tell stories and that you know,
have something to share, and it's just story. Storytelling to
me is really really important as far as building our
legacy and managing out.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
You were talking about you're talking about your kids spending
the night at pop's house on the weekends. I spent
the night at my grandparents' house almost every weekend until
I was grown, and when I was little, and listen
listening to my grandfather, who was born in nineteen eleven,
listening to him telling stories about coon hunting and quail

(34:50):
hunting and just living back in those you know, living
back in those days about the you know, him coming
home from football practice one time in a bobcat coming
out in the road right behind him and basically stalking
him all the way home. You know the stories like that,
and you know, tell tell me that one again, Papa.
You know when I was a kid, you'd want to
hear it over and over and over again and talk,

(35:11):
you know, talking about the he remember him telling me
a story about a bear that had got caught in
a bear trap and it had three toes and they
knew they always saw his track and knew it was
old three toe and they were all scared. You know,
those kind of stories about and man, I'm telling you,
you know he growing up in Washington County or you

(35:32):
know on Holmes Creek over there, you know Holmes County,
Washington County line, growing up over there in the in
the twenties, how wild that place still was, you know,
and uh talking about finding wolf pits where they back
in before his time he never saw wolves but just

(35:55):
before he was born. But the pits where they used
to trap red wolf were still there where somebody had
dug a hole and shaped like a horseshoe and had
a little peninsula on it. They'd stick a stob out
there on the end of it with a piece of
meat on it, and those wolves would jump at that
piece of meat and fall in the pit and couldn't
get out and go in there and kill them. And
that's why there's not any red wolf anymore, you know.
But to them, because they're cows and their they're hogs

(36:17):
or whatever else, they really weren't pinned up, you know,
the goats and all that just kind of they fed
them and they stayed around the house or whatever.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
And they you know, it's kind of kids.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yeah, but those stories, you know, getting passed down through
the generations. There is something that's important there should be
important to all of us. And it's one of the
reason Charlie picks at me about like an old man
and it come in the store and I talked to
them and listen to their stories and stuff, and you
pick up all kinds of to Charli like, yeah, you
and your old men buddies, you know, I love listening

(36:48):
to their stories.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
They got some man up on the lake eighty seventy.
He used to scuttle his daddy. His daddy was a guy.
They lived off they lived on an aplatic Gold River,
and he moved up like they would come up lake
some and all by old model T truck and he
would scull his daddy for a nickel a day before
it was a lake, it was rivers.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
You ever see anybody scull a boat, you know what
we're talking about.

Speaker 8 (37:10):
He's got some amazing So they would take a they
would take these old square back wooden boats, these big
wide you know what we call a john boat, but
it made out of cypress and wood.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
He made his own boat, made it out everything.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
And they were make old cypress boats. And they would
take an oar ring like you have a rowboat with
the little U shaped holders on the side that you
put an ore in, and they mount one on the
back of the on the transom of the boat, and
they'd sit there up in front of it and grab
an ore, not a paddle around or and you just
basically move it back and forth with your wrist. And

(37:47):
somebody that can scull a boat really well, that can
do that paddling technique with that with that ore on,
they could go upstream in a river. I've seen them
go up at Holmes Creek over in Washington.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Out of their homes County, kind of like a propeller looking.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Yeah, they're just it's a it's a back and forth
and twist and turn, and you turn the paddle one
way so it goes through the water easy, and then
you pull the other way, and there's a you can
do it backwards. They can go backwards. They can go
forward just by changing the motion. It is an art
form that you'd never see anymore.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Troller motors.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yeah, now you have electric troller motors, but watching somebody
do that with a boat was.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
My daddy used to sit on the back of the
fourteen foot john boat the wood in that picture right
there on the wall. He'd sit in the back of
that thing. Now, when he sat in the back, the
water would just the bat come in the back of
the boat. And he has a little Johnson motor on
the back there. I don't know what size it was,
but he would sit back there with a paddle in
his arm. He'd just wrap his arm around it.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I see his paddle right beside him.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, he could. He could take that wooden paddle right
there and sitting right there and he could put that
boat just with one hand. He could be fishing with
one hand, and he would twirl that paddle around in
the water, and he'd steer that thing as good as
any troller motor he ever saw, all the way up
to where he'd put right under a willow tree with
a water I mean, hit me in the wa He's

(39:04):
do all that he could, because I would get hung
up into willow trees and I try to just pull
straight to you. Some hold on, let me put you
in there. Here we go down. I won't ever forget
the time over. I heard a thump in the boat
behind me, and turn around and there was a snake,
big old black snake that was a water snake or

(39:24):
a water moksing. But it don't matter to me because
he was flipping and trying to flip it out of
boat with that ore, and it kept pushing it closer
to me. I think that's why I'm scared. This makes
you This day, we'll be right back.

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And we're back. Quick update on the Turkey story and
you can make all the recket you want if you
want to. So quick update. Is it ain't going well?
I had to pull the hen out of the pen
because I can't get into pen because the Tom Turkey don't.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Like me at all.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
He absolutely does not like me, and I can't let
him out because he just will chase everybody in and
the dogs you get him, and then I don't know who.
I'm pretty sure the dog will win. But uh so
I said, he's bowed up. He's bowed up. So I
took the hen out and put her in with the
chicken hens. And then he's all poor, whatoe was me?
And for two or three days he'd eat out of

(41:25):
a cup, wouldn't get after me, And then I guess
he figured out that that plot that wasn't gonna work.
So now he's back to bowing back.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Up at me again, and I can't.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
I can't get in there and feed he's I think
this turkey is bipolar, because there's times I go out
there and he'll lead out of the cup in my hand,
and he'll he'll chirp at me and make soft noises,
and all his feathers are smooth and all that, and
it's nice.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
This brain is the size of like a pee, and well.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Then the nice, But then the next day he bows
up at me and starts making this dumpump sound. Yeah,
and he's.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Yeah, if you are close enough, if you are turkey hunting,
and you hear that, that is danger close. That means
that gobbler has done snuck up on you and you're
hearing that drumming sound that they're you know that they'll
do that when they strut about. Yeah, well, it's just
it's it's a sound they make that is a believe
or not that low That sound that they make travels,

(42:26):
travels further, travels further, and they can hear it further
away than they can some of the other calls that
they make. And it because it's a low frequency, and
that's like, you know, they didn't realize you go, Cliff Claven,
go ahead and call me, go ahead and say, uh,
elephant elephants make sounds that only other elephants can hear.
They didn't know that until the technology of sound equipment,

(42:52):
until the technology is sound. They figured out that element
elephants can communicate over miles from each other, but it's
a such a low frequency that humans can't hear it.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Echo locating is basically what you're talking.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
More not not well, yeah, it's it's just to communicate.
But the animals communicate in so many different ways that
we can't. We don't pick up on you know, the birds, feathers, uh, ducks,
and turkeys and all that reflect light that other birds
can see but we don't see in that light frequency.
Ultraviolet light. They figured out. I don't know how they
figured it out. I'm assuming with camera stuff, but they

(43:30):
make ultraviolet paint for duck decoys that the birds can see.
And it just looks like paint to us. But yeah,
because it reflects ultraviolet light, and you can repaint your
decoys with this UV enhancing paint that will reflect that
light so that they can see and it looks that's
why live birds and decoys look very differently, and it's
because of that ultra violet spectrum that they can see

(43:52):
that we can't.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
It's the same thing with you know, now that technology
is going along where we can you have like dog
vision you can see what you can see, and deer
vision you can have filters you can see what deer
can see. Apparently, don't wear blue.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
Don't wear blue.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Don't wear blue jeans or blue when you so, don't
wear your navy camouflage when you got because the deer
can see that, or if they got bass white, probably.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
What's the blue hold.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
On that day? Deer deer color spectrum, they see blue
really really really well, it like clothes, which is why
you don't want to wash your deer camouflage in like
tide detergent or something with a high phosphorus content detergent,
because it brings out some of the fibers in your
It'll make your clothes glow to a deer.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
So all that time I thought I was hiding from
the deer, He's just looking right and looking.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Right at you.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yeah, they still don't They still don't recognize. I mean,
they still pick up movement better better than they see
colors and stuff, which is why different color lures work
on bass. And I don't know the technology with bass
or what what's what with bass?

Speaker 5 (44:55):
I hadn't really ever.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Read anything about it, but I'm assuming that different color
lures work it different times.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Of the year.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Paul, that that that's true has everything to do with
light reflectivity and refraction and all that.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Of course, that bipolar Turkey likes women.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
He seems like a normal guy to me.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
I was wondering, do you want to borrow one of
my wigs and maybe you go out to the pen
and make nice with him.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
And his eighty His eighty HD's doesn't run off.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Now I'm looking I'm trying to google and see how
fish see what color spectrum they see.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
It's amazing to me that well they also see they
see contrast real well. Well, they also use another sense
that we don't have, and that's the lateral line. And
that's where they lateral line. You know that you've seen
a snook. You know that big heavy black line that
runs down the middle of a us nook. That is
his lateral line. That isn't That is a sensory organ
that they have that picks up vibrations in the water,

(45:50):
and bass have it to pretty much all fish have it,
and it's a It is a it is a sensory
device that they use, which is why baits that vibrate
at certain frequencies work better. So certain times of the.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Year, that's right, Like right now, a rattle trap lipless
bait has been working real well. Rail trap working real good.
It's been a lot of fish have moved shallow with
this warming trend. There's more fish betting right now than
I've ever seen this early. You know, it's amazing really
everywhere Lake Seminole.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
So what are you using worms or using worms?

Speaker 4 (46:25):
Now?

Speaker 2 (46:26):
All fish don't bet at the same time, but you
have a big push shallow. I was catching some giant
crappie out over twenty twenty five foot of water, and
then this week it started that with that warming trend.
They all left and now we meen catch them around
the betting areas. Had four trips the last four four
times we men catch them all up shallow and three

(46:47):
four five foot of water.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
What are you catching?

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Crappy menus?

Speaker 4 (46:52):
We don't refer to them as that on the show.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Those are socle some people call brim perch, I don't
or no cracker perch we called properly.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
So there are brim perch and bass. That's mister j mudfish.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I mean, got that listening listening to show yes the
way every time you catch with a circle like like
JD calls, that's a cycle.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Everybody's gonna be wearing a little cycle.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I had dale bassie at mister James out yesterday. Man,
we caught the heck out of it. I had one
that I'll shake a picture of it, but it was
a giant slab up shallow to four foot of one.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
I went up to the that's about going up to
the way in for the the the junior, the high
school tournament. We went up to the way in and
the big turnout.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
For that wasn't it?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Man?

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Isn't that awesome? Was that many young?

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Isn't that?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Saturday?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Right?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Saturday?

Speaker 4 (47:47):
Sunday? Saturday we went to the Sunday Way we're talking
about going. Yeah, and uh, Allie's little friend boy they
him and his buddy came in. Twentieth Oh yeah, I
think there was like one hundred and forty hundred or two.
There was a bunch of boat. Yeah, they and I
mean little fellows that barely could hold up a you know,
two pounder. They couldn't even do the old angler trick
and hold it way out away from you when the

(48:08):
picture is getting taken, so it looks like a ten
pound you know. He's got this little one pound bass
and he can't hard. He say it was a stretch,
and I'm like, but I mean, little bitty fellas. They
let the kids and girls and the male female high
school right, the junior division is like eight years old.
I guarantee you them. Some of them boys wasn't more
than eight or ten years old out their baskeroom.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
The guy they won, what was his catch?

Speaker 4 (48:31):
The biggest the biggest string I saw A total weight
was twenty twenty two pounds something like that.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
How many fish you think it was?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Five?

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Five fish limit? Yeah, it's two men and two boys,
two people in the boat chest five fish. I mean
they could have caught twenty five fish. They weighed the
best five.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
That's right, it's an average five pound fish.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I have some college kids coming in this week. They're
going to be staying with me till Friday. Their turbins
on Friday. Friday is full moon.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
That could be interesting.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
So old are they biting?

Speaker 4 (49:05):
What?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Next Friday is full moon?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Valentine's Day? Oh boyd from.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
My wife fread's gonna be busy. Valentine's weekend on the
full moon. You're gonna be busy come Wednesday or Thursday
the next week.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
From all I did I found, Uh, this is.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Okay. Bass can see red and green well, right, okay,
but they have difficulty distinguishing other colors. They have different
receptor cells and their cones and rod cells blah blah
blah color vision. Red and green. Bass can see red
and green well and can can distinguish between them from
other colors. So red and green very well yellow and white.

(49:48):
They have a hard time distinguishing between yellow and white.
They just appear to be the same to them. Blue
and black. Bass often have trouble distinguishing blue from black.
That's right, all right.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
And then when good contrast.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Works bright colors, bass have trouble distinguishing very bright colors
like chartroose and white, and they find most dark colors
to be similar. Obviously, daytime lighting conditions, water clarity, all
that stuff is going to have a say over that.
And so there's a technological angler dot com. One of

(50:21):
this is scientific stuff, says recognize obviously choosing the lure,
let your experience be your guide. Obviously, you know, you know,
but listen to the science recognizing that bass can see
colors as bright, green, red, and dark, and that's about it.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
So you want a red, green, and white experience in
clear water, you want more natural colors. It's kind of
a seafood color. Dirtier water are more contrast. Black and
Red'll be able to see it better in the darker
water because it appears brighter to them, so they're more

(51:00):
likely to be able to.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Sell black and red lure in dark water is going
to be the trick our solid black.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
I actually there's a bait we used. It was a
long time ago, called a skunk, and it's black with
white stripes. You get a contrast on the crank based all.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
The coach Dog coach Dog colors, you know, black and white.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Yep, all right, I'm going to store right after the
show's come by the tackle.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
We'll see you all next time.
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