March 15, 2025 • 51 mins
In today's episode, the guys discuss the differing ways you can learn to shoot various platforms of weapons.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And welcome to the town outdoor show. Hey, I'm Charlie.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'd say something.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Halfway halfway through that I'm going and I'm wondering why
am I saying? And you were gonna go ahead way back?
What you know? I wonder why we say half the
things we say.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
As matter of fact, I wonder if there's more than
half with you. I'm just saying, well, it's more than half.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think out loud, and I think a lot, and
sometimes my brain gets full. I just have to I
had to just discuss it. I feel I feel better
after our talks. I know, you get bored and walk away.
My daddy used to do that. He'd know he'd go
to sleep, so I walk. I'd walk in the house
and I'd be I'd climb off the tractor or do
(00:52):
something or come in and walk in the house. And
Daddy being the recliner, and he was taking one of
his midday naps, and normally, if if the truck was
at the house, that's what he was doing, taking a break.
If not, he was off. I gotta run a town
and get some parts. I gotta go see something, I
gotta go pay some bills. I gotta go to bank
(01:12):
anything to not be on the tractor and leave me
on the tractor. If there was one tractor running, Charlie
was on it. If it was two tractors running, Daddy, well,
Daddy hired Sammy to run. Though I felt very privileged
when me and Daddy were in the same field farming together.
It was that was cool. And I knew he had
(01:33):
run out of options and we were in a bind.
So but I thought that was easy. He'd be on
a he'd be He'd always get on the forty four
to forty, the bigger tractor, and I would get onto
whatever the smaller version was. But yeah, but Daddy would.
I would go in there and sit in the living
room and I go, hey, Daddy, uh, and I'd start
it'd be work related to me, said okay, well went
(01:54):
over there and I did this, and I did this,
and I did that. Next thing. I know, he just
he had his hat, gold kissed hat most of the time,
pulled down over his eyes, and he just he just
doze off.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And I won't shut up.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I'm on, I'm gonna tell him anyway, and then he
can't say I didn't tell him to get away. You
can tell me, boy, and I'm not. He was asleep.
So anyway, sometimes I say, you glaze over a little
bit what I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So this time tomorrow I'm gonna be over in Jacksonville
watching the TPC saw Grass Players Tournament.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Get on a little part three with the Island Part
three and what's that one?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, I think they call it drunk Hill.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Okay, I'll be at the tournament on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Oh really yeah? Yeah. Scottie called wanted to know how
to make a hole in one, so uh yeah, I
figured i'd go over there and tell him.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Get closer.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Usually works, close your eyes, hit and pray.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Unless I'm putting, which I can't. I don't know what
it is. Lately, I can't make a putt save my life.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It happens, there's there's a there's but there's a touch,
there's a putts joke in there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You're leaving them short or.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Just you know, missing just inches short or just going
inches by. It's just it's so frustrating.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's why I don't play golf in it.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I mean, it's just And I was watching the tournament
last night. You know, see they got some Spanish guy
Villa something or another. But Villa is something.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Okay, a Spanish dude, Spanish game Latin guy.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, he's leading. But I've noticed that these pros a
lot of them are putting with not like you hold
the club, but they put the other hand, the left hand,
the lead hand.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Switch hit switch was switch handed basically him like you
would bat cross handed.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And I don't know if that would work or not.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I used to play baseball the guy that, uh that
that batted cross handed and he never hit the ball
very far, but he hit it just about every time.
I mean, he was a great contact hitter that bat
had cross handed.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I mean, when you watch these pros, especially when you
go watch them live in person, if I'm all hit
the golf ball, it's out. I mean I've got to
sit there and line up and put the ball and
practice swing all. You know. It takes me a minute
or so just to visualize the swing and what I'm
going to hit. These guys just walk up to it.
Well how do you do that?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I mean, they just they do a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, they just play in a totally different game than
the average recreation.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Like saying, you know, when I play basketball, I have
to really think about how the trajectory and and then
these NBA guys just jump up there and they just
play like I don't even try. That's the same analogies
what you just see.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Probably so, and you know that I.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Don't ever play basketball. You know, I can't ring that
garbage can with a piece of paper.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And I was, you know, I was selling out my
wife the other day in her response was one, is
the last time you prepared for a hearing in court?
And I'm like, well, I really haven't.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I mean, that's just lazy. That's not like, you know,
skill set.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, it probably does. But yeah, I mean it's you know,
once you do whatever it is you.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Do, it's subject matter expertise. Once JD, when's the last
time you practice shooting? Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the
you know, it's we all have our wheelhouse and then
we dabble in other people's. You dabble in golf, and
it's it's a hobby and it's a it's a passion
for you, but it's not your profession. Those guys, that's
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their profession. And here's the other thing is there's a
lot of people would love for that to be their profession. However,
they're not that good, and so as hard as they try,
they just can't quite put it together. Those people are
anomalies when it comes to people with skill setting, and
so they get so good, but they're people that try
harder than they do and they're still not that good.
(05:51):
It's like anything else. That's why professional athletes, professional shooters,
professional and attorneys. You know, you have some people that
can just fly by seated the pants and they know
case law and know somebody. They walk in and they
can massage a jury into what they want, or they
can do a great job of negotiating, or you know,
cops that know how to show up on a scene
and resolve a situation with very you know, or very
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few were in my case, a lot of words, but
we get it done, you know. And then you walk
away and somebody goes, man, I'm not here half an
hour trying to do this and you walked in here
said three things and everything's cool. Well that just some
people have a gift for different things. Yea.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
You know, I can go out and shoot, you know,
not not pick up my shotgun for a couple or
three months at a time, go out there and shoot
sporting clays and shoot you know eighty five ninety percent
on the sporting class course without touching my shotgun for
five months four months the different. But also on the
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same note, if I went out there and actually did
it every day, I probably wouldn't pick up more than
one or two shots.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Is it worth the effort?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It is a dorothy expense, and the effort at that point,
I mean, I don't do it for a living. I
don't care that much. I'm not gonna put in that
kind of time.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I can go out there any given day and shoot
the same course, and I also can get twenty five
or thirty percent.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, I've seen you do that. Yeah, And it's just
it's one of those things that I think, at this
point in time in my life, I've done it. I've
done it enough that I know what the picture is
supposed to look like in my head when I'm doing it,
and I go out there and it just and I
may get rusty with shooting things, whatever I may get.
I had a when I was when they were about
(07:38):
to put me to sleep Wednesday morning, to do my
to do the surgery on my mouth, on my get
the rest of that tooth out of there. Uh, doctors
asking me, sayd do you shoot a lot, And I'm like, no,
I don't, because really, I was like, no, I don't
shoot a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I don't have time to shoot longe.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I don't have time to shoot.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I'm too busy making sure everybody else has got
somewhere to shoot or got something to shoot with or whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But I don't understand. I can understand how you can
be good with a pistol if you're good with a shotgun.
What I don't understand is how you can be good
with a pistol and not as good with a shotgun.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
With a pistol and a riflett.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That pistol and rifle, because I can explain it very time.
I can. I can absolutely explain that to you because
it's completely one hundred and eighty degree different discipline because
of where your focal attention is and because of because
of what's going on with it. With a pistol a rifle,
when you're trying to hit a static target, like you're
(08:43):
trying to hit this water bottle at one hundred yards
with a rifle, you want everything on that rifle perfectly
still when you're pulling the trigger you don't want to
disturb that side alignment, that site picture. You want everything
perfectly still, perfectly in place, and you want to pull
the trigger with perfect percent vision to where you don't
disturb that. And your focal attention needs to be on
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either the front side if you're shooting iron sights, or
it needs to be on the crosshairs. If you're shooting
with a rifle, you need your You're focused on the
cross hairs.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
With a shotgun, you're absolutely focused on the target. When
you're shooting clays, you're focused on the target and nothing
is ever still. It never stops moving.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
He can shoot moving targets with a pistol.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I've seen it well, but his focal attention is still
on front side of the pistol, though not the shot.
It's like a shotgun. If I if I'm seeing my
front sight on a shotgun, I'm probably not killing the
bird or breaking the target, that fact of the matter.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I mean, all right, I still.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
There's too much follow through, sweeping and too much movement.
There are days when I can shoot most of what
I aim at with a shotgun, or not aim at
with a shotgun. There's days I can't hit anything We'll
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when we left, we were talking about the difference between
why I suck with a shotgun but I can shoot
other things, and then what the difference is.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And there's some days that you do better than others.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
There are days when I think, if I think about
it less, I just and I just roll into it.
I'm doing better. I mean there are days when I
can shoot clays or birds even and you know, and
it's like that fast when I go back to shooting steel.
I always tell people, we shoot steel, we want to
paint it white. We're seeing, we're hearing where all these
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things are happening, and so that it reached our brains
go back and go, Okay, what I just did was right,
And then as I do in the future, my body
goes back to that.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And you mentioned something on the Well, what you're talking
about is is the shooting steel is the positive instant recognition, right,
So you got that I line the sites up perfectly,
I broke the shot perfectly. I got that spot, I
hit that spot on the steel that I was aiming at,
and I got a ding, and I got a little
black spot, and I got a whatever else. And that happened.
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Your brain recorded all that Fred was talking about.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Shooting.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Shooting a bird, bird or live targets are very different
than clay's. Clays are predictable once you see it fly
a couple of times, and that's why we throw show pairs.
We will throw a show pair and let you look
at the bird, look at the clay and say okay,
so your brain's taking all of that stuff in what
happens with a lead on a bird, so on a
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live bird, and what allows you to make those shots
and everybody goes, wow, that was a great shot. What
happened was really going on when you're when you're when
you see that bird leaving at a certain trajectory, you
see that that speed whatever your brain is calculating all
that as you bring the shot gun up and you're
you're replaying every time in your brain that you have
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seen that before. It's replaying that so that when you
bring the gun up and you get your gun up
in front of the bird and you establish your lead
and you know that Okay, I'm on there. I know
I'm gonna kill this bird when I break when I
pulled the trigger. Most of the time, if you do
it successfully, it's because you kept the gun moving. What
what where people fail with shooting moving targets is stopping
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the gun. Because what happens your brain gets you get
into that position and you go, okay, everything is exactly
right on that target, and I know where I'm at,
and I know that if I break this shot, I'm
gonna kill that bird. And your brain will say, okay,
stop time, stop the motion. And I stopped the gun
because everything is perfectly aligne. I stopped the gun because
I have found that spot in my brain that says,
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this is the geometry is correct. And you stop what
you're doing to try to freeze time and pull the trigger,
and then that bird is gone because you didn't continue
the lead. The shot doesn't get there exactly as the
target has moved.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
And I can, I can back that up, you take.
I've got three boys, all of them learn how to
shoot birds under my watch. Taught them all shotgun on
the days that I would go out and you know,
would be dove hunting or duck or whatever it is.
And they missed the bird almost every time. It's because
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they didn't continue following through.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Which causes you to shoot behind them.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Right absolutely, you're going to shoot, be shooting behind them.
You're the bird. The target is not going to be there.
So what I tell people when I'm teaching people to
shoot clays is even if you break the bird, when
you're shooting clay tark, follow the pieces that you when
you have broken this bird and you it's got into
pick out the biggest piece that broke off and follow
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it all the way to the ground, or shoot it.
Shooting and broken peace. Because with live birds, just because
you do everything right and you hit it, you may
not you may cripple it. If you want to follow
that bird, keep following that bird and stay on it.
The same with clays. You just follow that, you know,
follow the pieces, follow through and force yourself not to
stop the gun. And that's the biggest mistake I see
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people make with with shooting clays.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You said something one time that made me think about
that in a different way. You've got a new shotgun
or an old shotgun, or in your case it's probably
an old shotgun. And you said, this thing is like
a lightsaber. I just I just swing it and and
birds fall. I just love shooting this thing. And I
got to thinking about a lightsaber and you never stop,
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you just you swing. In fictional characters, you swing it
this is and you don't stop, You just you follow
through and that kind of.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And when you find a gun that fits you, well,
that that the weighted, that is weighted correctly, and everything
is right with the world. That's my that is my
Browning Superposed twenty gauge lightning and that's it's that gun.
For whatever reason, it just things fall out of the
sky when I when I move that thing around, and
it's just it is what it is, same model for me,
(15:47):
but yeah, min just longer. Yeah, my stock is just longer.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
The one I've got was a night It's a nineteen
fifties trigger. Apparently I would have been a giant back then, uh,
because that's the standard stock that came on that thing.
And it's I've got a twelve and a half inch pull,
you know, which is yeah, you know, like Corontosaurus recks.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, like I'm fourteen in a quarter.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I'm I'm a big dude, all right, six three two
eighty right now. Hopefully that's gonna change soon. And I
find that I shoot lighter, shorter shotguns better than I
do my big, you know, twelve gags. I would rather
be shooting the twenty eight gauge. I love shooting that one.
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I'm quil hunting. It's a shorterest, a lighter, smaller shotgun,
and for some reason, I can move it easier. I
don't feel like i'm mustling this big shotgun around.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That's why. That's precisely why my semi auto that I
hunt with, that's precisely why I shoot Banilli's and not Brettas.
Bretta's are a couple of pounds heavier than the Banilli's
and the lighter weight guns because I don't stop heavier
guns will keep you from star opping the gun. I
know guys that shoot better that they want for like
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their they're clay shooting, sporting sporting clay guns. They want
them big, long and heavy or skip guns. They want
them heavy because it keeps you from stopping the gun.
It's gonna force you. It's hard to stop it because
it weighs so much more.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, that lightning it over and under I carry out
in South Dakota. I mean that thing weighs as much
as an ATV.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah. Yeah, the bigger, the heavier guns are harder to stop,
but so so light guns for me, because I've kind
of broken that habit. And you also have to, you know,
when you're shooting or doing anything, play in a sport
for that matter, it doesn't matter. You have to be
able to have that internal dialogue with yourself and you
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Why did I miss and you have to be able
to replay that sequence back in your head and go, well,
I missed because I'd never got the gun mounted properly.
I missed because my stance was wrong on my putting
stants are wrong. I'm doing something wrong. I got it,
figured it out. Sometimes it takes longer than others went.
Hitting the golf ball is the same.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Concert If you shoot, you try to hit a golf
ball off your back foot.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Right, it is something you're doing. But you have to
be able to do self diagnostics and go, Okay, why
am I not doing? What's going wrong here? And there's
times there's been times when I missed and I was like,
I shouldn't be missing this. I shouldn't be missing this shot.
I know what this SHOT's supposed to look like, and
it'll be some little something, you know. With me being
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a left handed shooter, a bird going from right to
left is my most difficult shot, and a straight ninety
degree passing shot from right to left as a left
handed shooter. Because I tend to pull the gun off
my face, the gun gets ahead of my eye basically,
so my mount is corrupted, my rear sight is corrupted.
The mount the relationship between the shotgun stock and your
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face is your rear sight on a shotgun. So what
happens with the right to left shot is I tend
to get the gun in front of me. The gun
the gun un pulls off my face and usually you'll
get that little kiss on there when you pull the trigger.
You'll get that recoil and you'll have the next day
you'll have that little sore spot there where you gave
the gun somewhere to recoil, and it'll give you a
little hay. You know, you messed up there, and it
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doesn't take long sometime to figure that out. But you
have to be able to diagnose, diagnose what you're doing
wrong to correct it, and then you have to have
that internal dialogue and say, stay on the gun, dummy,
it's a right to left shot. Here it comes again.
Stay on the gun. And it may take me one
or two shots on a on a that I'm missing,
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and I have to have that really deep conversation, you know,
inside my head, I'm like, I'm gonna break this bird,
and I'm gonna stay down on the gun and I'm
gonna do this, and I'll make the correction and make
the shot so you know, it's it's all part of it,
but but it all all goes back to how many
times have you done it?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You know?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
That's what makes pro anybody's good at what they're doing
is because they don't stop. They don't stop doing it.
Even when they're sitting at the bar at at the
nineteenth hole drinking a beer, they're thinking about that bad
shot they made on the on the fifth hole, and
they're sitting there replaying that shot over and so that
next time they won't mess up. And that's that. That's
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what's the difference between a professional anybody and an amateur
is that they care enough to go sit down and
think about it later and go, why did I Why
did I hook that ball? Why did I why did
I miss that shot? Why did I screw this up?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Why did I swing at that bad pitch in the
third inning? As a baseball player, you know all of
those things. You have to be able to sit there
and analyze it and self self correct.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
After a certain number of years and a certain skill
set that you acquire, I think it's easier to maintain that.
And people go, why don't y'all ever practice? Why don't
you ever spend time on the range. Well, if you've
shot enough tens of thousands of rounds and you've gotten
to a certain skill set, and then you know, we
get into Minusha co well, I'm well, my clover leaf
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group one of the rounds wasn't quite touch okay whatever.
That's so. I mean like when I'm out teaching cops
and I'm watching them struggle sighting in an AR fifteen
at twenty five yards and I'm like, well, come on, dude,
your your rounds should almost be touching at this distance,
even with open so I should be close. And you
watch and you watch, and you watch, and you go
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and I know, nothing's wrong with the rifle. Maybe it's
off left, right, up, down, whatever, but I go take
the rifle and then I go, well, let me try it.
And you shoot it to number five and to be
twenty one target and all of your rounds are touching
the number five, and you go, there's nothing wrong with
the rifle, and go, man, you must shoot a lot. Now.
This is the first time in six eight months I've
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picked up an AR fifteen and this is yours. You know,
so it's but it does you don't have to. It's
kind of like riding a bike. You know, you get
now when I do a group like that, I don't
pick up a gun the rest of to day because I.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Know I'm not gonna do that again.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, because that's not every day, you know, it's like
anything else. You have good days and you have bad days.
A good day for me would be to out come
close to out shooting or out shooting you on one
given day. I mean that's not often, but if if
I could do that, that would be a good day.
And then what kills me is I know you try
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even less than I try, and.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Still you know, it's just yeah, this is this sounds arrogant,
and I don't mean it to sound that way, but
there's there's just some things that was born to do,
I guess, and I've been doing it since I was
a little kid. And you go back and ask my
mom that you said thing I ain't never seen nothing
like that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You want to be humble, Go to Argentina and dove
hunt next to JD. Make you feel bad. We'll be
right back.
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worked too many storms law enforcement officer back in the day,
too many disasters, too many things, and I suffer some
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sort of post traumatic stress as it relates to that,
and I didn't. I'm driving down the Interstate and out
of the corner of my eye over to the left
on the north side of the Interstate, this huge pine
tree just falls hissed the ground and goes.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
This is on the interest on the interest.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Now there's a bobcat at the bottom of it. There's
a whole tree crew down there below the edge of
the road. All I see, all I see is the
tree fall. And I grabbed a steering wheel and I
did the little bunk to the right. Because after working
all of those hurricanes and having trees falling around me
and blocking the road in front of me when they
made us stay out there and that stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I don't remember that. I don't remember what storm that was.
But you and I were on the same tree crew
that night, and we were we were cutting trees, and
I just you. We were taking this is no lie.
We were taking turns watching the other trees around us
while one of us is working on a tree and
you're basically standing back to back. I'm sitting there or
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he's sitting there. One of us is running a chainsaw,
and the other one is standing there just looking for
waiting on something else to fall on you kind of thing,
because you're out there and it's.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Just you know, it's at the peak of the storm.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, you're in the middle of.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
The wait until the storm.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well that's that's not what we did.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Because that's not what we were told because fire trucks
and ambulances have to be able to get down those
roads to go ahead.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
We literally a couple couple of times that night we've
cut our way up and NICKOSOOKI road and then couldn't
get and then couldn't go back down. So you cut
your cut one direction, you go north one way, and
then you cutting trees and then cut cut back to
the south and keeping roads open. But we were in
some neighborhood that night, and I ain't never been so
scared in my life. Uh, And I've had people shoot
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at me. I ain't been that scared of my life.
When we're just watching these big pine trees or just
falling all around us, and and you're trying to clear
the road. And you know.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I watched one in night. I forget what year it was,
but it was one that came through destined Fort Walton
area and caught the edge of Marianna as it came
up and swooped. It went through Camilton, and I was
up there working for the Jackson County Sheriff's Office at
the time in an old box chavy and I drove
down highway to a little bit and pecan tree blew
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over in a lady's yard out onto the road, and
I had to drive through her yard to get around
back on the road again. And as I get back out,
I'm looking across and I see this pole barn, one
of those red iron steel barns with the concrete bases
on its open dirt underneath, and some right on the
edge of the road, and there's some power lines. And
I saw there was like a hundred acre field there,
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and that wind was whipping coming across that field, picked
up that barn, flipped the one side up in the
air and it came down on the power lines and
you just you see the flash and the sparks and
the thing fall on it. And now the old John
Deer tractor is just sitting there like nobody's business. But
I went to looking for a place to go. I
was watching the.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Aniles, them pillars up at the ground on one of
those reds some wind right there.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I scared, and and I was watching the awnings from
Cottondale blow down two thirty one going north tumbling. Uh,
you know, I don't think. And the captains like y'all
find somewhere to take shelter, and I'm like, all blew away,
all the shelter I'm looking at. It's blowing away. Boss.
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I'm gonna go find me something big to sit next to.
That's concrete and the old car shaking up and down
in the area. You know, the crap we do for
work man, that's that's that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I was in Charleston in nineteen eighty nine when Hugo
came through, and I can remember that the traffic lights
parallel to the ground, not perpendicular.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, I'm like cheeze.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
The next day, I mean it looked like a gigantic
lawnmower had come through and cut off all the types
of the trees. Boats on the middle of the street.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Like Marianna Post. Michael I've still got broken trees in
my yard that I look out there every day and
again it's what one hundred and fifty minin our winds
do right there. Some of those trees are still I
was cleaning that one yesterday with the grapple trying to
get it out. Finally died. Thenother one's still hanging on.
It's coming through and anyway, we'll be back in just
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a minute.
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talked about shotguns shooting earlier, we have a we have
a shoot coming up at my farm on April to eighteenth,
which is the Marion FFA fundraiser you just day before
the day the Friday before Easter. That has would be
the second one. I don't think it's aye, all right?
So when does it become an annual event?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Third time?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Third time? Yes? After three? After three? All right? Well
this is the second am I saying that right? The
second mary An f F after.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
The third time, Sporting CLA, it's not it's not skeep
sporting clave sporting clay.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
So it's so we set up ten stations out in
the field around my house.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
You're gonna have the rabbit.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
We had rabbits.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
We had rabbits and we uh we we yeah, we'll
have all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
He's got good places to do things. He's got some
terrain to work with over there. So we we we
set it up last year and got to do some made,
some made some cool shots.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Be a little different this year, but there's probably gonna
be some bar bar fence and some cows we got
to avoid, or some sort of critters by then. I
don't know. I don't know what I'm going to have.
That turkey might escape and have to be uh engaged
in order to get he attacked me.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Have you all seen that video? Yeah, the turkey.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, oh that was just that was the turkey. And
after Charlie the light version you haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I noticed your son just goes out there and picks
him up.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I know, I know. And now the hen started laying
eggs the other day, and now he has gotten even
possessive around the rest of the family. He's not getting
after him, but he's bowing up at my wife where
he wasn't doing that before. But he's like, hey, I
got something going on in here. I want I want
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to keep it going on. That poor little girl, she's
she's she's looking a little rough, rough around the edges.
So we go, we're gonna, well, we're collecting. Then we're
gonna try to incubate him and see what happens. We
incubated a whole bunch of chicks the other day. We
got ten olive eggers, which they're a blend of different
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version that ended up laying an O D green egg somewhere.
And so we had it's nine out of ten on
our first attempts ever, and I'm fifty eight, never never
incubated an egg before on the farm. But it's it's
so we got all these different breeds. Let me talking
about them more later, much to J. D. Chagrin, talk
more about chickens and chickens.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, I would have if my wife would let me
have chickens. I would have chickens, mainly because the Homeowners
Association clarn Lakes don't like them. But they can't do
anything about it because it's there's a state law that
says you can have chickens.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
There's some rules about roosters. You're not supposed to have
roosters in certain areas, like in the city, you're not
supposed to have roosters. Well, I'll be honest with you know,
chickens are pretty.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
What if that rooster identifies as something else?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I don't know, see.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Is hard to say.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Hold on just a minute. Now, that rooster right there,
that's Betsy, Now Betsy, she's she may don't you called
don't you call him? A hem?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
They may look like a rooster, might look like one.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
He even talks like one. Don't matter. That right there
is a hen. But you know what funny because I've
got these weeds. You know, I've been every year at
this time of year, we get all this stuff growing
around the house. It's bright green vegetation and stuff. And
I found out that stuff is chick weed. I am see.
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I am reaching down every morning and every evening I'm
grabbing a handful of chick weed and throwing it in
with the dog go chickens, and they're eating it. And
I'm like, the Lord just provides right there. And now
I can't mow because I'd be killing the chicken.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Feed that got the little white, little white tips on it.
I got that all over my yard right now.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Eat it. It's good, it tastes good.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I pass.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Oh, it's good. Just don't eat it. Where the dog peace?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well, I don't always know where that is, so I
pass on that.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Hold it up to her face, and God, you peel
on this. And if she makes a fun if she
looks ashamed in that seapee, don't it.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I tell you what my yard's about, washed away all
the rain we had Tallahassee. Good gracious, all right.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I'm looking at this law and chickens.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
The chicken law. Yeah, we had a lawyer, that's right,
brought something up on it.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Because my wife, she's property lawyer, you know, and she's
been telling me I can't have chickens because we have
an h o a uh huh.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
She's been lying to you, ain't she.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I don't know. I'm lucky at that. I never really
thought the question.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
That's the difference between you and me. Fred. I really
don't care about law. I just want me some chickens.
But I want some chicken. But I do respect my wife.
And she said, we ain't having chickens, so we don't
have chickens.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
If you want chickens. I can't hook you up.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I know, I know a guy can get me.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Some cho Yeah, I just just I'll bring you some
eggs again. You take the eggs on, honey, we can
have these ourself. She don't like eggs, Your wife doesn't
like it.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I won't eat either, because I.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Wouldn't complain about her taste too much because she sticks
with you. But whatever else might be wrong, whether you
better applaud it, go, honey, I am so glad.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I'm all for it, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Like, my wife doesn't like chocolate. You know, she doesn't
eat chocolate, And I'm like, that's crazy. You know, I
ain't gonna say it because she does like me. Let's
just leave it alone.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
But I don't know. I just usually she's always right.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I think that there, if I'm not mistaken, I think
there is a state law in Florida that that basically
told homeowner associations they can't keep people from having chickens.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Well, if we're waiting on Fred to answer this question,
as you forget and never ask an attorney for an answer,
you can't ask for an opinion. Give a week and
me we ain't.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Charging us by the hour ain't charging me by the
hour right now.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
This thing's gonna be brief by next week.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Well that's something you care about, there you go. So
Fred's gonna become the new chicken law. You have any
issues out there with with chickens or livestock, you know,
Fred's gonna study it up and he'll know by next
week exactly what you can and can't do based on
And the thing is is the state needs to press
pass a preemptive law on this and just ban all local,
all local organization homeowners cities, counties, like they do on
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everything else.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Associations.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It's like having a gun range somewhere. You can you
can have a gun range. The state law prescribes you
know how much ache, you know, how big and what this.
I think it's residential areas that you can't have one.
If it's on primarily agriculture or residential, that's it. I
had somebody jump onst the other day. They asked a
question on social media about you know, I just had
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a deputy tell me that I have more than an acre.
I can build a gun range in my yard. And
that is true. The city not inside city limits. The uh, well,
you can shoot inside the city limits. You just I
don't know about the gun range. I think that preempt
city city stuff too. That's a state law, and it's
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preempt that says you can't pass any law city county
organization government can't pass any law that restricts firearms issues, period.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
But I think you can pass the shooting. You know,
if I live at a zero light line house, I
can't go outside, Well that's.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Under state law. That's a state law that regulates that,
but it preempts all local laws.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Right. But there's there area loss says you can't shoot
within so many feet of it.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Right, right, But that's not the point of the story
I was talking to. The point of story I was
telling him was he asked about building the backstop, and
I said, get you some railroad ties, build you a
three sided structure, fill it full of dirt, and you
got a backstop. However, just because you can doesn't mean
you should. I mean he's talking about he had more
than an acre, And I said, if somebody build a
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gun range one hundred yards from my house and they
shot when it disturbed me and my animals and everything else,
I'd find all kinds of ways to retaliate that were legal,
and I had people jump on me about why would
you retaliate against our personal freedoms in the Second Amendment
and all this stuff, And I'm like.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Because I don't want to listen to a bunch of
racket I mean, playing a bunch off.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
He opened the garage over there and started running zero
exhaust dragstrip cars next door. It'd be the same thing
to me if you disturbed my Now, what I found
out later was he lives on like five or ten fifteeners,
and that's fine, but I said, you just got to
be You've got to be reasonable.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I say, you a nice silencer, make all that go away.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Well he apparently has silencers, and you know, it wasn't
that big a deal, but for somebody to jump on me,
and then that guy whose profile it was started criticizing
us because you don't like Donald Trump, and I'm like,
and I'm like, well, I don't like Donald Trump either
as a person. He's not somebody I.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Want to doing a fantastic job. I just don't particularly
care for it.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I don't want to go. I don't want to I
don't like to hear him talk about I don't like
listening to his species because he never shuts up and
he keeps going on. So I like, I like what
he does, and I support him, and I shut up.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
They both got the diarrhea of the mouth.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
But but my point is is I don't have to
like somebody to support them. Yeah, he not so far
as to say, maybe all not listening to their show
anymore because he does.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Okay, I like Donald Trump? So how's that? So I
don't know that I go hang out with.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
What I mean by when I say that is it's
just I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I mean, there's some things he says that are pretty
funny sometimes.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I think, yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
It's just like the other night when he called Elizabeth
Warre pokeness in the Congress was hilarious. I mean, I
about fell out.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I thought it was hilarious. I wouldn't have said it.
I would.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I mean, so I like what he says and what
he does. Some of the times I think that he's
a little full of hisself, and it's not somebody i'd
prefer to be any of my best buds. That's what
I meant by it. It will be.
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Before I got left the subject completely. We are having
that fundraiser on the Friday before Easter, and if you're
looking to sign up, there will be links on our
Facebook page and you can call the shops and there
will be and anyway, you can go to my personal
Facebook page or talents Facebook page and there will be
information there that we will share from the Marann FFA,
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and that's how you would sign up for that SKIP
or Sporting Claves tournament. We were talking about our support
and our like or distaste for our president and I'll
say our president because he's our president and I don't
like the last one, but he was still our president,
our president this one. You know, I just I there
are people I do business with I just don't want
to hang out with, you know, I don't particularly enjoy
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spending hours of my life spending time with them. Donald
Trump is one of those people that I just don't
really feel an inclination and go. Now, do I respect
him for what he's doing. Yeah, He's done some off
the wall hair brain crap and says some things and
does some things that I go, that's just divisive. He
really doesn't have to go that far. And I don't
particularly like him as a as a human being because
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of those things. Now, I also believe that he's what's
writing necessary for our country right now, and I think
that he's doing a good job of it, and it
is gonna hurt. It's gonna hurt us, but it's like
taking medicine. It ain't gonna taste good, but hopefully it's
gonna I was listening to some farmers talk today, and
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you know, we have lost almost half of our beef
production and sixty percent of our sheep production, all that
in this country since we went to a no tariff system.
We used to feed the world, and now we are
importing food in the United States more than ever before.
It's because we're not putting tariffs on imports on agriculture products,
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and people are tariffing the fire out of our exports
going to their countries. So you say, okay, well they're
putting tariffs on steel and car, this, that and the
other thing. Well, yeah, because there's other things that they
are putting tariffs on that we export to their country.
If we're exporting stuff over there and they're keeping it
out of their country by putting Yeah, and so now
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what Trump is doing is coming back going you know,
we're gonna tear a few back. This is in retaliation
for what they've been doing to get us on an
even keel because they think that we're the richest thing
in the world, and we just do what adding to
whatever they want to treat us. However they need to build.
They've been so focused on building their economies, and we
have been outsourcing everything to their countries because it's cheaper
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to do it there. And then what he's going is saying, hey, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, we're not gonna do that. We're gonna We're
gonna It's kind of like me getting into homesteading. I'm
gonna grow my own stuff. I'm gonna do my own thing.
If I could set up a fence and a border
around the place, I probably would in a few years
when I don't care what none of y'all think no more.
You know, it's just it's that day I be here.
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I'm getting older, in ornery or really yeah, I have
just about having enough of your stuff too.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Well. And like I said, just because I don't particularly
care for somebody's personality doesn't mean that I don't think
they're a good person or doing a good job or
doing things correctly whatever. And I'm support him one hundred percent.
I just don't particularly care for his personality.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
He racks me up.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Sometimes I believe in.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
He cracks me up. Sometimes he cracks me up. Sometimes
I can respect somebody who can say what's on his
mind and not care. And I don't know why I
respect that.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Uh well, he he lends a pretty strong argument to
the not being concerned about getting canceled movement because he
was a whole half of the country tried to cancel
him as he's the president.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
And he made it. Uh. You know, I don't know,
you gotta I just I like somebody who tells me
where he stands. And he's not a phony person.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I agree with that one hundred percent. There's nothing funny
about him.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
And well, he's sacrificed a lot of money, time.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
In a lot of ways. I admire him. I admire him.
I don't but that, but like and admire two different things.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Still, I'm not I'm not a fan of his all
of his personality. You know what, if he showed up
in town tomorrow said hey, guys, let's go out and
have lunch together. I'd go with him. Sure I would,
because you know, but and I would consider it an
honor to do so. However, if he said, hey, I'm
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in town, this weekend, let's go to church together. I'd go,
that's fake. You're full of it. You're trying. I don't
know what you're getting out of this, but or hey,
I want to take your kids and get none. I
don't want you. I don't want you being an influence
on them because you're going to they'll get they'll get
canceled from school next week because that's what the president said. No, no, no, no,
no no. So I mean there's the one.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
That would be the most fun to hang out with
and drink a beer Bill Clinton without a question. Yeah,
I mean the stories we could tell each.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Other, tell each other. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I I think he's pretty disgusting. I think you're discussing.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Which is there's that?
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Why are you carrying the Constitution?
Speaker 3 (46:09):
I got to reading the dog On thing this week.
I am trying to wrap my head around.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Howl has finally read the Constitution.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
No, I've read it many times. I went back and
reviewed it, and I'm like, where are these district judges,
federal district judges coming off telling the executive branch who
they can hire and fire? Where is that in the Constitute?
And I can't find it. I can't find it in there,
So I mean, so I broke it down a little bit.
Article one deals with the legislature, and it's the longest
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article in the Constitution, and you see there's ten sections
to it, I think, and uh, it lays out all
these things that the legislature is supposed to do. Article
two deals with the President, the executive branch, and in
that there's four sections to Article two. On the first
one is the longest one and it talks about how
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to get him away, so that doesn't really define any powers.
The second one article talks about him being the commander
of Chief and what his role is there and what
he can do with the military. And the third article
talks about what his powers are, and it's the shortest,
well next to the shortest. The fourth is how to
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get rid of him, which basically says, if he's you
remove him for high Chris misme trees and bribery and
that sort of thing. But if you look at the
last sentence of section three, Article two, United States Constitution,
what it says is he shall take care that the
laws be faithfully executed. All right, So break that down
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a little bit. What is a law? Well, that's what
Congress passes, it's his job to execute the law. That
means to do or refrain from doing something that would
not faithfully execute the law. So in that is the
hiring and firing of people who work in the executive branch.
And I'm trying to figure out where these district judges
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are coming off. Where do they get that authority to say,
we can tell the number three. Article three deals with
the judicial branch. And that's the shortest articles of all
three of them. As I was talking Grant earlier about that,
I think there's some significance in that. When you look
at the powers of each branch of government, it's significant
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that the third one is the court system. Yeah, probably
because it's intended to Yes, it's unelected, and it was
intended to be the least influential of the three.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
And I just don't see where these district judges can
dictate what a president can and can't do.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Well.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
I think it's going to end up in the Supreme
Courts lab before it's over with, because he will host
us so far. And you know, here's the thing is,
he didn't go in. Now, had he gone in and
said fire all the black people or fire all the
gay people or the LGP fire them. That'd be different.
What he said, fire all the probationary employees, all these
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people who have not established permanency in their position, go
ahead and fire all of them, which you can fire
probationary employee without costs. I mean, talk with your wife,
But I mean if you did it as a as
an entire class of people, that being everybody, not a
proteion to do it all the time. Absolutely, they go,
we got a downsize, we're laying off this many people.
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And they didn't. They can't accuse him of discriminating against
any particular protected class. They're just firing it. He just said,
fire these.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
They're trying to do is create a protected class, which
is federal employees.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Right, and that you work for the government, you can't
be No, that's what the problem with government employees a
lot of times is because it's so hard to fire them.
Absolutely well, he said that's not that hard. Watch hold
my beer and watch this, and he got rid of them.
Now I hate it for him, And I don't know
what gonna happen with a post office because now they're
going to try to fix that mess. And it's just
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been barely hanging on.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Thank you. Well, I think in the very near future,
I'm afraid that you will see the US Postal Service
become privatized. I think you're going to see a lot
of privatization of a lot of branches of the God
I think. I think, I think NASSA will go away
and be privatized.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Actually, the post Offices is actually mentioned in Article one
of the Constitution as an authority of Congress.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Okay, well, there you go, the Congress, the Congress has
control over that. Then it may still exist.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Uh yeah, there's there's to establish post offices and post roads.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah. Well in the constitutions, did you see where Chuck
Shimmer is going to vote for the continuing Resolution to
keep government open because he doesn't want Trump to win.
Uh he if we shut the government down, he wins.
And then and old Trump say to go, please don't
throw me into briar past. Okay, if if, if you're
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if you're helping me in order to hurt me. Uh yeah,
you keep playing that game. And then all the crazy
left ones are like, oh no, no, no, no, we can't.
They don't. I don't think any of them know what
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, I agree. I fully agree with.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
That, which means that this time for a big, vast
press the reset button. I think that's what's happened. Next week, chickens,
We'll see y'all,
And welcome to the town outdoor show. Hey, I'm Charlie.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'd say something.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Halfway halfway through that I'm going and I'm wondering why
am I saying? And you were gonna go ahead way back?
What you know? I wonder why we say half the
things we say.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
As matter of fact, I wonder if there's more than
half with you. I'm just saying, well, it's more than half.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think out loud, and I think a lot, and
sometimes my brain gets full. I just have to I
had to just discuss it. I feel I feel better
after our talks. I know, you get bored and walk away.
My daddy used to do that. He'd know he'd go
to sleep, so I walk. I'd walk in the house
and I'd be I'd climb off the tractor or do
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something or come in and walk in the house. And
Daddy being the recliner, and he was taking one of
his midday naps, and normally, if if the truck was
at the house, that's what he was doing, taking a break.
If not, he was off. I gotta run a town
and get some parts. I gotta go see something, I
gotta go pay some bills. I gotta go to bank
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anything to not be on the tractor and leave me
on the tractor. If there was one tractor running, Charlie
was on it. If it was two tractors running, Daddy, well,
Daddy hired Sammy to run. Though I felt very privileged
when me and Daddy were in the same field farming together.
It was that was cool. And I knew he had
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run out of options and we were in a bind.
So but I thought that was easy. He'd be on
a he'd be He'd always get on the forty four
to forty, the bigger tractor, and I would get onto
whatever the smaller version was. But yeah, but Daddy would.
I would go in there and sit in the living
room and I go, hey, Daddy, uh, and I'd start
it'd be work related to me, said okay, well went
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over there and I did this, and I did this,
and I did that. Next thing. I know, he just
he had his hat, gold kissed hat most of the time,
pulled down over his eyes, and he just he just
doze off.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And I won't shut up.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I'm on, I'm gonna tell him anyway, and then he
can't say I didn't tell him to get away. You
can tell me, boy, and I'm not. He was asleep.
So anyway, sometimes I say, you glaze over a little
bit what I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So this time tomorrow I'm gonna be over in Jacksonville
watching the TPC saw Grass Players Tournament.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Get on a little part three with the Island Part
three and what's that one?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, I think they call it drunk Hill.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Okay, I'll be at the tournament on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Oh really yeah? Yeah. Scottie called wanted to know how
to make a hole in one, so uh yeah, I
figured i'd go over there and tell him.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Get closer.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Usually works, close your eyes, hit and pray.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Unless I'm putting, which I can't. I don't know what
it is. Lately, I can't make a putt save my life.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It happens, there's there's a there's but there's a touch,
there's a putts joke in there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You're leaving them short or.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Just you know, missing just inches short or just going
inches by. It's just it's so frustrating.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's why I don't play golf in it.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I mean, it's just And I was watching the tournament
last night. You know, see they got some Spanish guy
Villa something or another. But Villa is something.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Okay, a Spanish dude, Spanish game Latin guy.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, he's leading. But I've noticed that these pros a
lot of them are putting with not like you hold
the club, but they put the other hand, the left hand,
the lead hand.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Switch hit switch was switch handed basically him like you
would bat cross handed.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And I don't know if that would work or not.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I used to play baseball the guy that, uh that
that batted cross handed and he never hit the ball
very far, but he hit it just about every time.
I mean, he was a great contact hitter that bat
had cross handed.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I mean, when you watch these pros, especially when you
go watch them live in person, if I'm all hit
the golf ball, it's out. I mean I've got to
sit there and line up and put the ball and
practice swing all. You know. It takes me a minute
or so just to visualize the swing and what I'm
going to hit. These guys just walk up to it.
Well how do you do that?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I mean, they just they do a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, they just play in a totally different game than
the average recreation.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Like saying, you know, when I play basketball, I have
to really think about how the trajectory and and then
these NBA guys just jump up there and they just
play like I don't even try. That's the same analogies
what you just see.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Probably so, and you know that I.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Don't ever play basketball. You know, I can't ring that
garbage can with a piece of paper.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
And I was, you know, I was selling out my
wife the other day in her response was one, is
the last time you prepared for a hearing in court?
And I'm like, well, I really haven't.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I mean, that's just lazy. That's not like, you know,
skill set.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, it probably does. But yeah, I mean it's you know,
once you do whatever it is you.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Do, it's subject matter expertise. Once JD, when's the last
time you practice shooting? Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the
you know, it's we all have our wheelhouse and then
we dabble in other people's. You dabble in golf, and
it's it's a hobby and it's a it's a passion
for you, but it's not your profession. Those guys, that's
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their profession. And here's the other thing is there's a
lot of people would love for that to be their profession. However,
they're not that good, and so as hard as they try,
they just can't quite put it together. Those people are
anomalies when it comes to people with skill setting, and
so they get so good, but they're people that try
harder than they do and they're still not that good.
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It's like anything else. That's why professional athletes, professional shooters,
professional and attorneys. You know, you have some people that
can just fly by seated the pants and they know
case law and know somebody. They walk in and they
can massage a jury into what they want, or they
can do a great job of negotiating, or you know,
cops that know how to show up on a scene
and resolve a situation with very you know, or very
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few were in my case, a lot of words, but
we get it done, you know. And then you walk
away and somebody goes, man, I'm not here half an
hour trying to do this and you walked in here
said three things and everything's cool. Well that just some
people have a gift for different things. Yea.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
You know, I can go out and shoot, you know,
not not pick up my shotgun for a couple or
three months at a time, go out there and shoot
sporting clays and shoot you know eighty five ninety percent
on the sporting class course without touching my shotgun for
five months four months the different. But also on the
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same note, if I went out there and actually did
it every day, I probably wouldn't pick up more than
one or two shots.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Is it worth the effort?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It is a dorothy expense, and the effort at that point,
I mean, I don't do it for a living. I
don't care that much. I'm not gonna put in that
kind of time.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I can go out there any given day and shoot
the same course, and I also can get twenty five
or thirty percent.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, I've seen you do that. Yeah, And it's just
it's one of those things that I think, at this
point in time in my life, I've done it. I've
done it enough that I know what the picture is
supposed to look like in my head when I'm doing it,
and I go out there and it just and I
may get rusty with shooting things, whatever I may get.
I had a when I was when they were about
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to put me to sleep Wednesday morning, to do my
to do the surgery on my mouth, on my get
the rest of that tooth out of there. Uh, doctors
asking me, sayd do you shoot a lot, And I'm like, no,
I don't, because really, I was like, no, I don't
shoot a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I don't have time to shoot longe.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I don't have time to shoot.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I'm too busy making sure everybody else has got
somewhere to shoot or got something to shoot with or whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But I don't understand. I can understand how you can
be good with a pistol if you're good with a shotgun.
What I don't understand is how you can be good
with a pistol and not as good with a shotgun.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
With a pistol and a riflett.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That pistol and rifle, because I can explain it very time.
I can. I can absolutely explain that to you because
it's completely one hundred and eighty degree different discipline because
of where your focal attention is and because of because
of what's going on with it. With a pistol a rifle,
when you're trying to hit a static target, like you're
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trying to hit this water bottle at one hundred yards
with a rifle, you want everything on that rifle perfectly
still when you're pulling the trigger you don't want to
disturb that side alignment, that site picture. You want everything
perfectly still, perfectly in place, and you want to pull
the trigger with perfect percent vision to where you don't
disturb that. And your focal attention needs to be on
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either the front side if you're shooting iron sights, or
it needs to be on the crosshairs. If you're shooting
with a rifle, you need your You're focused on the
cross hairs.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
With a shotgun, you're absolutely focused on the target. When
you're shooting clays, you're focused on the target and nothing
is ever still. It never stops moving.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
He can shoot moving targets with a pistol.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I've seen it well, but his focal attention is still
on front side of the pistol, though not the shot.
It's like a shotgun. If I if I'm seeing my
front sight on a shotgun, I'm probably not killing the
bird or breaking the target, that fact of the matter.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I mean, all right, I still.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
There's too much follow through, sweeping and too much movement.
There are days when I can shoot most of what
I aim at with a shotgun, or not aim at
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when we left, we were talking about the difference between
why I suck with a shotgun but I can shoot
other things, and then what the difference is.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And there's some days that you do better than others.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
There are days when I think, if I think about
it less, I just and I just roll into it.
I'm doing better. I mean there are days when I
can shoot clays or birds even and you know, and
it's like that fast when I go back to shooting steel.
I always tell people, we shoot steel, we want to
paint it white. We're seeing, we're hearing where all these
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things are happening, and so that it reached our brains
go back and go, Okay, what I just did was right,
And then as I do in the future, my body
goes back to that.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And you mentioned something on the Well, what you're talking
about is is the shooting steel is the positive instant recognition, right,
So you got that I line the sites up perfectly,
I broke the shot perfectly. I got that spot, I
hit that spot on the steel that I was aiming at,
and I got a ding, and I got a little
black spot, and I got a whatever else. And that happened.
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Your brain recorded all that Fred was talking about.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Shooting.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Shooting a bird, bird or live targets are very different
than clay's. Clays are predictable once you see it fly
a couple of times, and that's why we throw show pairs.
We will throw a show pair and let you look
at the bird, look at the clay and say okay,
so your brain's taking all of that stuff in what
happens with a lead on a bird, so on a
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live bird, and what allows you to make those shots
and everybody goes, wow, that was a great shot. What
happened was really going on when you're when you're when
you see that bird leaving at a certain trajectory, you
see that that speed whatever your brain is calculating all
that as you bring the shot gun up and you're
you're replaying every time in your brain that you have
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seen that before. It's replaying that so that when you
bring the gun up and you get your gun up
in front of the bird and you establish your lead
and you know that Okay, I'm on there. I know
I'm gonna kill this bird when I break when I
pulled the trigger. Most of the time, if you do
it successfully, it's because you kept the gun moving. What
what where people fail with shooting moving targets is stopping
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the gun. Because what happens your brain gets you get
into that position and you go, okay, everything is exactly
right on that target, and I know where I'm at,
and I know that if I break this shot, I'm
gonna kill that bird. And your brain will say, okay,
stop time, stop the motion. And I stopped the gun
because everything is perfectly aligne. I stopped the gun because
I have found that spot in my brain that says,
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this is the geometry is correct. And you stop what
you're doing to try to freeze time and pull the trigger,
and then that bird is gone because you didn't continue
the lead. The shot doesn't get there exactly as the
target has moved.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
And I can, I can back that up, you take.
I've got three boys, all of them learn how to
shoot birds under my watch. Taught them all shotgun on
the days that I would go out and you know,
would be dove hunting or duck or whatever it is.
And they missed the bird almost every time. It's because
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they didn't continue following through.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Which causes you to shoot behind them.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Right absolutely, you're going to shoot, be shooting behind them.
You're the bird. The target is not going to be there.
So what I tell people when I'm teaching people to
shoot clays is even if you break the bird, when
you're shooting clay tark, follow the pieces that you when
you have broken this bird and you it's got into
pick out the biggest piece that broke off and follow
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it all the way to the ground, or shoot it.
Shooting and broken peace. Because with live birds, just because
you do everything right and you hit it, you may
not you may cripple it. If you want to follow
that bird, keep following that bird and stay on it.
The same with clays. You just follow that, you know,
follow the pieces, follow through and force yourself not to
stop the gun. And that's the biggest mistake I see
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people make with with shooting clays.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You said something one time that made me think about
that in a different way. You've got a new shotgun
or an old shotgun, or in your case it's probably
an old shotgun. And you said, this thing is like
a lightsaber. I just I just swing it and and
birds fall. I just love shooting this thing. And I
got to thinking about a lightsaber and you never stop,
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you just you swing. In fictional characters, you swing it
this is and you don't stop, You just you follow
through and that kind of.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And when you find a gun that fits you, well,
that that the weighted, that is weighted correctly, and everything
is right with the world. That's my that is my
Browning Superposed twenty gauge lightning and that's it's that gun.
For whatever reason, it just things fall out of the
sky when I when I move that thing around, and
it's just it is what it is, same model for me,
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but yeah, min just longer. Yeah, my stock is just longer.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
The one I've got was a night It's a nineteen
fifties trigger. Apparently I would have been a giant back then, uh,
because that's the standard stock that came on that thing.
And it's I've got a twelve and a half inch pull,
you know, which is yeah, you know, like Corontosaurus recks.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, like I'm fourteen in a quarter.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I'm I'm a big dude, all right, six three two
eighty right now. Hopefully that's gonna change soon. And I
find that I shoot lighter, shorter shotguns better than I
do my big, you know, twelve gags. I would rather
be shooting the twenty eight gauge. I love shooting that one.
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I'm quil hunting. It's a shorterest, a lighter, smaller shotgun,
and for some reason, I can move it easier. I
don't feel like i'm mustling this big shotgun around.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That's why. That's precisely why my semi auto that I
hunt with, that's precisely why I shoot Banilli's and not Brettas.
Bretta's are a couple of pounds heavier than the Banilli's
and the lighter weight guns because I don't stop heavier
guns will keep you from star opping the gun. I
know guys that shoot better that they want for like
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their they're clay shooting, sporting sporting clay guns. They want
them big, long and heavy or skip guns. They want
them heavy because it keeps you from stopping the gun.
It's gonna force you. It's hard to stop it because
it weighs so much more.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, that lightning it over and under I carry out
in South Dakota. I mean that thing weighs as much
as an ATV.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah. Yeah, the bigger, the heavier guns are harder to stop,
but so so light guns for me, because I've kind
of broken that habit. And you also have to, you know,
when you're shooting or doing anything, play in a sport
for that matter, it doesn't matter. You have to be
able to have that internal dialogue with yourself and you
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Why did I miss and you have to be able
to replay that sequence back in your head and go, well,
I missed because I'd never got the gun mounted properly.
I missed because my stance was wrong on my putting
stants are wrong. I'm doing something wrong. I got it,
figured it out. Sometimes it takes longer than others went.
Hitting the golf ball is the same.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Concert If you shoot, you try to hit a golf
ball off your back foot.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Right, it is something you're doing. But you have to
be able to do self diagnostics and go, Okay, why
am I not doing? What's going wrong here? And there's
times there's been times when I missed and I was like,
I shouldn't be missing this. I shouldn't be missing this shot.
I know what this SHOT's supposed to look like, and
it'll be some little something, you know. With me being
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a left handed shooter, a bird going from right to
left is my most difficult shot, and a straight ninety
degree passing shot from right to left as a left
handed shooter. Because I tend to pull the gun off
my face, the gun gets ahead of my eye basically,
so my mount is corrupted, my rear sight is corrupted.
The mount the relationship between the shotgun stock and your
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face is your rear sight on a shotgun. So what
happens with the right to left shot is I tend
to get the gun in front of me. The gun
the gun un pulls off my face and usually you'll
get that little kiss on there when you pull the trigger.
You'll get that recoil and you'll have the next day
you'll have that little sore spot there where you gave
the gun somewhere to recoil, and it'll give you a
little hay. You know, you messed up there, and it
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doesn't take long sometime to figure that out. But you
have to be able to diagnose, diagnose what you're doing
wrong to correct it, and then you have to have
that internal dialogue and say, stay on the gun, dummy,
it's a right to left shot. Here it comes again.
Stay on the gun. And it may take me one
or two shots on a on a that I'm missing,
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and I have to have that really deep conversation, you know,
inside my head, I'm like, I'm gonna break this bird,
and I'm gonna stay down on the gun and I'm
gonna do this, and I'll make the correction and make
the shot so you know, it's it's all part of it,
but but it all all goes back to how many
times have you done it?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You know?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
That's what makes pro anybody's good at what they're doing
is because they don't stop. They don't stop doing it.
Even when they're sitting at the bar at at the
nineteenth hole drinking a beer, they're thinking about that bad
shot they made on the on the fifth hole, and
they're sitting there replaying that shot over and so that
next time they won't mess up. And that's that. That's
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what's the difference between a professional anybody and an amateur
is that they care enough to go sit down and
think about it later and go, why did I Why
did I hook that ball? Why did I why did
I miss that shot? Why did I screw this up?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Why did I swing at that bad pitch in the
third inning? As a baseball player, you know all of
those things. You have to be able to sit there
and analyze it and self self correct.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
After a certain number of years and a certain skill
set that you acquire, I think it's easier to maintain that.
And people go, why don't y'all ever practice? Why don't
you ever spend time on the range. Well, if you've
shot enough tens of thousands of rounds and you've gotten
to a certain skill set, and then you know, we
get into Minusha co well, I'm well, my clover leaf
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group one of the rounds wasn't quite touch okay whatever.
That's so. I mean like when I'm out teaching cops
and I'm watching them struggle sighting in an AR fifteen
at twenty five yards and I'm like, well, come on, dude,
your your rounds should almost be touching at this distance,
even with open so I should be close. And you
watch and you watch, and you watch, and you go
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and I know, nothing's wrong with the rifle. Maybe it's
off left, right, up, down, whatever, but I go take
the rifle and then I go, well, let me try it.
And you shoot it to number five and to be
twenty one target and all of your rounds are touching
the number five, and you go, there's nothing wrong with
the rifle, and go, man, you must shoot a lot. Now.
This is the first time in six eight months I've
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picked up an AR fifteen and this is yours. You know,
so it's but it does you don't have to. It's
kind of like riding a bike. You know, you get
now when I do a group like that, I don't
pick up a gun the rest of to day because I.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Know I'm not gonna do that again.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, because that's not every day, you know, it's like
anything else. You have good days and you have bad days.
A good day for me would be to out come
close to out shooting or out shooting you on one
given day. I mean that's not often, but if if
I could do that, that would be a good day.
And then what kills me is I know you try
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even less than I try, and.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Still you know, it's just yeah, this is this sounds arrogant,
and I don't mean it to sound that way, but
there's there's just some things that was born to do,
I guess, and I've been doing it since I was
a little kid. And you go back and ask my
mom that you said thing I ain't never seen nothing
like that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You want to be humble, Go to Argentina and dove
hunt next to JD. Make you feel bad. We'll be
right back.
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Remember not long ago there was a spider trying to
get on there. I hadn't seen that thing since in
my truck. Now were st so today? I'm driving the car,
easing down the interstate, and I think that I have
worked too many storms law enforcement officer back in the day,
too many disasters, too many things, and I suffer some
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sort of post traumatic stress as it relates to that,
and I didn't. I'm driving down the Interstate and out
of the corner of my eye over to the left
on the north side of the Interstate, this huge pine
tree just falls hissed the ground and goes.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
This is on the interest on the interest.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Now there's a bobcat at the bottom of it. There's
a whole tree crew down there below the edge of
the road. All I see, all I see is the
tree fall. And I grabbed a steering wheel and I
did the little bunk to the right. Because after working
all of those hurricanes and having trees falling around me
and blocking the road in front of me when they
made us stay out there and that stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I don't remember that. I don't remember what storm that was.
But you and I were on the same tree crew
that night, and we were we were cutting trees, and
I just you. We were taking this is no lie.
We were taking turns watching the other trees around us
while one of us is working on a tree and
you're basically standing back to back. I'm sitting there or
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he's sitting there. One of us is running a chainsaw,
and the other one is standing there just looking for
waiting on something else to fall on you kind of thing,
because you're out there and it's.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Just you know, it's at the peak of the storm.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, you're in the middle of.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
The wait until the storm.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well that's that's not what we did.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Because that's not what we were told because fire trucks
and ambulances have to be able to get down those
roads to go ahead.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
We literally a couple couple of times that night we've
cut our way up and NICKOSOOKI road and then couldn't
get and then couldn't go back down. So you cut
your cut one direction, you go north one way, and
then you cutting trees and then cut cut back to
the south and keeping roads open. But we were in
some neighborhood that night, and I ain't never been so
scared in my life. Uh, And I've had people shoot
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at me. I ain't been that scared of my life.
When we're just watching these big pine trees or just
falling all around us, and and you're trying to clear
the road. And you know.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I watched one in night. I forget what year it was,
but it was one that came through destined Fort Walton
area and caught the edge of Marianna as it came
up and swooped. It went through Camilton, and I was
up there working for the Jackson County Sheriff's Office at
the time in an old box chavy and I drove
down highway to a little bit and pecan tree blew
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over in a lady's yard out onto the road, and
I had to drive through her yard to get around
back on the road again. And as I get back out,
I'm looking across and I see this pole barn, one
of those red iron steel barns with the concrete bases
on its open dirt underneath, and some right on the
edge of the road, and there's some power lines. And
I saw there was like a hundred acre field there,
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and that wind was whipping coming across that field, picked
up that barn, flipped the one side up in the
air and it came down on the power lines and
you just you see the flash and the sparks and
the thing fall on it. And now the old John
Deer tractor is just sitting there like nobody's business. But
I went to looking for a place to go. I
was watching the.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Aniles, them pillars up at the ground on one of
those reds some wind right there.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I scared, and and I was watching the awnings from
Cottondale blow down two thirty one going north tumbling. Uh,
you know, I don't think. And the captains like y'all
find somewhere to take shelter, and I'm like, all blew away,
all the shelter I'm looking at. It's blowing away. Boss.
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I'm gonna go find me something big to sit next to.
That's concrete and the old car shaking up and down
in the area. You know, the crap we do for
work man, that's that's that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I was in Charleston in nineteen eighty nine when Hugo
came through, and I can remember that the traffic lights
parallel to the ground, not perpendicular.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, I'm like cheeze.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
The next day, I mean it looked like a gigantic
lawnmower had come through and cut off all the types
of the trees. Boats on the middle of the street.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Like Marianna Post. Michael I've still got broken trees in
my yard that I look out there every day and
again it's what one hundred and fifty minin our winds
do right there. Some of those trees are still I
was cleaning that one yesterday with the grapple trying to
get it out. Finally died. Thenother one's still hanging on.
It's coming through and anyway, we'll be back in just
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talked about shotguns shooting earlier, we have a we have
a shoot coming up at my farm on April to eighteenth,
which is the Marion FFA fundraiser you just day before
the day the Friday before Easter. That has would be
the second one. I don't think it's aye, all right?
So when does it become an annual event?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Third time?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Third time? Yes? After three? After three? All right? Well
this is the second am I saying that right? The
second mary An f F after.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
The third time, Sporting CLA, it's not it's not skeep
sporting clave sporting clay.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
So it's so we set up ten stations out in
the field around my house.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
You're gonna have the rabbit.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
We had rabbits.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
We had rabbits and we uh we we yeah, we'll
have all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
He's got good places to do things. He's got some
terrain to work with over there. So we we we
set it up last year and got to do some made,
some made some cool shots.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Be a little different this year, but there's probably gonna
be some bar bar fence and some cows we got
to avoid, or some sort of critters by then. I
don't know. I don't know what I'm going to have.
That turkey might escape and have to be uh engaged
in order to get he attacked me.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Have you all seen that video? Yeah, the turkey.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, oh that was just that was the turkey. And
after Charlie the light version you haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I noticed your son just goes out there and picks
him up.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I know, I know. And now the hen started laying
eggs the other day, and now he has gotten even
possessive around the rest of the family. He's not getting
after him, but he's bowing up at my wife where
he wasn't doing that before. But he's like, hey, I
got something going on in here. I want I want
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to keep it going on. That poor little girl, she's
she's she's looking a little rough, rough around the edges.
So we go, we're gonna, well, we're collecting. Then we're
gonna try to incubate him and see what happens. We
incubated a whole bunch of chicks the other day. We
got ten olive eggers, which they're a blend of different
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version that ended up laying an O D green egg somewhere.
And so we had it's nine out of ten on
our first attempts ever, and I'm fifty eight, never never
incubated an egg before on the farm. But it's it's
so we got all these different breeds. Let me talking
about them more later, much to J. D. Chagrin, talk
more about chickens and chickens.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, I would have if my wife would let me
have chickens. I would have chickens, mainly because the Homeowners
Association clarn Lakes don't like them. But they can't do
anything about it because it's there's a state law that
says you can have chickens.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
There's some rules about roosters. You're not supposed to have
roosters in certain areas, like in the city, you're not
supposed to have roosters. Well, I'll be honest with you know,
chickens are pretty.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
What if that rooster identifies as something else?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I don't know, see.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Is hard to say.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Hold on just a minute. Now, that rooster right there,
that's Betsy, Now Betsy, she's she may don't you called
don't you call him? A hem?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
They may look like a rooster, might look like one.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
He even talks like one. Don't matter. That right there
is a hen. But you know what funny because I've
got these weeds. You know, I've been every year at
this time of year, we get all this stuff growing
around the house. It's bright green vegetation and stuff. And
I found out that stuff is chick weed. I am see.
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I am reaching down every morning and every evening I'm
grabbing a handful of chick weed and throwing it in
with the dog go chickens, and they're eating it. And
I'm like, the Lord just provides right there. And now
I can't mow because I'd be killing the chicken.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Feed that got the little white, little white tips on it.
I got that all over my yard right now.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Eat it. It's good, it tastes good.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I pass.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Oh, it's good. Just don't eat it. Where the dog peace?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well, I don't always know where that is, so I
pass on that.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Hold it up to her face, and God, you peel
on this. And if she makes a fun if she
looks ashamed in that seapee, don't it.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I tell you what my yard's about, washed away all
the rain we had Tallahassee. Good gracious, all right.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I'm looking at this law and chickens.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
The chicken law. Yeah, we had a lawyer, that's right,
brought something up on it.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Because my wife, she's property lawyer, you know, and she's
been telling me I can't have chickens because we have
an h o a uh huh.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
She's been lying to you, ain't she.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I don't know. I'm lucky at that. I never really
thought the question.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
That's the difference between you and me. Fred. I really
don't care about law. I just want me some chickens.
But I want some chicken. But I do respect my wife.
And she said, we ain't having chickens, so we don't
have chickens.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
If you want chickens. I can't hook you up.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I know, I know a guy can get me.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Some cho Yeah, I just just I'll bring you some
eggs again. You take the eggs on, honey, we can
have these ourself. She don't like eggs, Your wife doesn't
like it.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I won't eat either, because I.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Wouldn't complain about her taste too much because she sticks
with you. But whatever else might be wrong, whether you
better applaud it, go, honey, I am so glad.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I'm all for it, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Like, my wife doesn't like chocolate. You know, she doesn't
eat chocolate, And I'm like, that's crazy. You know, I
ain't gonna say it because she does like me. Let's
just leave it alone.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
But I don't know. I just usually she's always right.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
I think that there, if I'm not mistaken, I think
there is a state law in Florida that that basically
told homeowner associations they can't keep people from having chickens.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Well, if we're waiting on Fred to answer this question,
as you forget and never ask an attorney for an answer,
you can't ask for an opinion. Give a week and
me we ain't.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Charging us by the hour ain't charging me by the
hour right now.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
This thing's gonna be brief by next week.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Well that's something you care about, there you go. So
Fred's gonna become the new chicken law. You have any
issues out there with with chickens or livestock, you know,
Fred's gonna study it up and he'll know by next
week exactly what you can and can't do based on
And the thing is is the state needs to press
pass a preemptive law on this and just ban all local,
all local organization homeowners cities, counties, like they do on
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everything else.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Associations.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It's like having a gun range somewhere. You can you
can have a gun range. The state law prescribes you
know how much ache, you know, how big and what this.
I think it's residential areas that you can't have one.
If it's on primarily agriculture or residential, that's it. I
had somebody jump onst the other day. They asked a
question on social media about you know, I just had
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a deputy tell me that I have more than an acre.
I can build a gun range in my yard. And
that is true. The city not inside city limits. The uh, well,
you can shoot inside the city limits. You just I
don't know about the gun range. I think that preempt
city city stuff too. That's a state law, and it's
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preempt that says you can't pass any law city county
organization government can't pass any law that restricts firearms issues, period.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
But I think you can pass the shooting. You know,
if I live at a zero light line house, I
can't go outside, Well that's.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Under state law. That's a state law that regulates that,
but it preempts all local laws.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Right. But there's there area loss says you can't shoot
within so many feet of it.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Right, right, But that's not the point of the story
I was talking to. The point of story I was
telling him was he asked about building the backstop, and
I said, get you some railroad ties, build you a
three sided structure, fill it full of dirt, and you
got a backstop. However, just because you can doesn't mean
you should. I mean he's talking about he had more
than an acre, And I said, if somebody build a
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gun range one hundred yards from my house and they
shot when it disturbed me and my animals and everything else,
I'd find all kinds of ways to retaliate that were legal,
and I had people jump on me about why would
you retaliate against our personal freedoms in the Second Amendment
and all this stuff, And I'm like.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Because I don't want to listen to a bunch of
racket I mean, playing a bunch off.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
He opened the garage over there and started running zero
exhaust dragstrip cars next door. It'd be the same thing
to me if you disturbed my Now, what I found
out later was he lives on like five or ten fifteeners,
and that's fine, but I said, you just got to
be You've got to be reasonable.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I say, you a nice silencer, make all that go away.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Well he apparently has silencers, and you know, it wasn't
that big a deal, but for somebody to jump on me,
and then that guy whose profile it was started criticizing
us because you don't like Donald Trump, and I'm like,
and I'm like, well, I don't like Donald Trump either
as a person. He's not somebody I.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Want to doing a fantastic job. I just don't particularly
care for it.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I don't want to go. I don't want to I
don't like to hear him talk about I don't like
listening to his species because he never shuts up and
he keeps going on. So I like, I like what
he does, and I support him, and I shut up.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
They both got the diarrhea of the mouth.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
But but my point is is I don't have to
like somebody to support them. Yeah, he not so far
as to say, maybe all not listening to their show
anymore because he does.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Okay, I like Donald Trump? So how's that? So I
don't know that I go hang out with.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
What I mean by when I say that is it's
just I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I mean, there's some things he says that are pretty
funny sometimes.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I think, yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
It's just like the other night when he called Elizabeth
Warre pokeness in the Congress was hilarious. I mean, I
about fell out.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I thought it was hilarious. I wouldn't have said it.
I would.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
I mean, so I like what he says and what
he does. Some of the times I think that he's
a little full of hisself, and it's not somebody i'd
prefer to be any of my best buds. That's what
I meant by it. It will be.
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Before I got left the subject completely. We are having
that fundraiser on the Friday before Easter, and if you're
looking to sign up, there will be links on our
Facebook page and you can call the shops and there
will be and anyway, you can go to my personal
Facebook page or talents Facebook page and there will be
information there that we will share from the Marann FFA,
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and that's how you would sign up for that SKIP
or Sporting Claves tournament. We were talking about our support
and our like or distaste for our president and I'll
say our president because he's our president and I don't
like the last one, but he was still our president,
our president this one. You know, I just I there
are people I do business with I just don't want
to hang out with, you know, I don't particularly enjoy
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spending hours of my life spending time with them. Donald
Trump is one of those people that I just don't
really feel an inclination and go. Now, do I respect
him for what he's doing. Yeah, He's done some off
the wall hair brain crap and says some things and
does some things that I go, that's just divisive. He
really doesn't have to go that far. And I don't
particularly like him as a as a human being because
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of those things. Now, I also believe that he's what's
writing necessary for our country right now, and I think
that he's doing a good job of it, and it
is gonna hurt. It's gonna hurt us, but it's like
taking medicine. It ain't gonna taste good, but hopefully it's
gonna I was listening to some farmers talk today, and
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you know, we have lost almost half of our beef
production and sixty percent of our sheep production, all that
in this country since we went to a no tariff system.
We used to feed the world, and now we are
importing food in the United States more than ever before.
It's because we're not putting tariffs on imports on agriculture products,
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and people are tariffing the fire out of our exports
going to their countries. So you say, okay, well they're
putting tariffs on steel and car, this, that and the
other thing. Well, yeah, because there's other things that they
are putting tariffs on that we export to their country.
If we're exporting stuff over there and they're keeping it
out of their country by putting Yeah, and so now
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what Trump is doing is coming back going you know,
we're gonna tear a few back. This is in retaliation
for what they've been doing to get us on an
even keel because they think that we're the richest thing
in the world, and we just do what adding to
whatever they want to treat us. However they need to build.
They've been so focused on building their economies, and we
have been outsourcing everything to their countries because it's cheaper
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to do it there. And then what he's going is saying, hey, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, we're not gonna do that. We're gonna We're
gonna It's kind of like me getting into homesteading. I'm
gonna grow my own stuff. I'm gonna do my own thing.
If I could set up a fence and a border
around the place, I probably would in a few years
when I don't care what none of y'all think no more.
You know, it's just it's that day I be here.
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I'm getting older, in ornery or really yeah, I have
just about having enough of your stuff too.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Well. And like I said, just because I don't particularly
care for somebody's personality doesn't mean that I don't think
they're a good person or doing a good job or
doing things correctly whatever. And I'm support him one hundred percent.
I just don't particularly care for his personality.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
He racks me up.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Sometimes I believe in.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
He cracks me up. Sometimes he cracks me up. Sometimes
I can respect somebody who can say what's on his
mind and not care. And I don't know why I
respect that.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Uh well, he he lends a pretty strong argument to
the not being concerned about getting canceled movement because he
was a whole half of the country tried to cancel
him as he's the president.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
And he made it. Uh. You know, I don't know,
you gotta I just I like somebody who tells me
where he stands. And he's not a phony person.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I agree with that one hundred percent. There's nothing funny
about him.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
And well, he's sacrificed a lot of money, time.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
In a lot of ways. I admire him. I admire him.
I don't but that, but like and admire two different things.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Still, I'm not I'm not a fan of his all
of his personality. You know what, if he showed up
in town tomorrow said hey, guys, let's go out and
have lunch together. I'd go with him. Sure I would,
because you know, but and I would consider it an
honor to do so. However, if he said, hey, I'm
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in town, this weekend, let's go to church together. I'd go,
that's fake. You're full of it. You're trying. I don't
know what you're getting out of this, but or hey,
I want to take your kids and get none. I
don't want you. I don't want you being an influence
on them because you're going to they'll get they'll get
canceled from school next week because that's what the president said. No, no, no, no,
no no. So I mean there's the one.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
That would be the most fun to hang out with
and drink a beer Bill Clinton without a question. Yeah,
I mean the stories we could tell each.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Other, tell each other. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I I think he's pretty disgusting. I think you're discussing.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Which is there's that?
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Why are you carrying the Constitution?
Speaker 3 (46:09):
I got to reading the dog On thing this week.
I am trying to wrap my head around.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Howl has finally read the Constitution.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
No, I've read it many times. I went back and
reviewed it, and I'm like, where are these district judges,
federal district judges coming off telling the executive branch who
they can hire and fire? Where is that in the Constitute?
And I can't find it. I can't find it in there,
So I mean, so I broke it down a little bit.
Article one deals with the legislature, and it's the longest
(46:37):
article in the Constitution, and you see there's ten sections
to it, I think, and uh, it lays out all
these things that the legislature is supposed to do. Article
two deals with the President, the executive branch, and in
that there's four sections to Article two. On the first
one is the longest one and it talks about how
(46:59):
to get him away, so that doesn't really define any powers.
The second one article talks about him being the commander
of Chief and what his role is there and what
he can do with the military. And the third article
talks about what his powers are, and it's the shortest,
well next to the shortest. The fourth is how to
(47:20):
get rid of him, which basically says, if he's you
remove him for high Chris misme trees and bribery and
that sort of thing. But if you look at the
last sentence of section three, Article two, United States Constitution,
what it says is he shall take care that the
laws be faithfully executed. All right, So break that down
(47:42):
a little bit. What is a law? Well, that's what
Congress passes, it's his job to execute the law. That
means to do or refrain from doing something that would
not faithfully execute the law. So in that is the
hiring and firing of people who work in the executive branch.
And I'm trying to figure out where these district judges
(48:05):
are coming off. Where do they get that authority to say,
we can tell the number three. Article three deals with
the judicial branch. And that's the shortest articles of all
three of them. As I was talking Grant earlier about that,
I think there's some significance in that. When you look
at the powers of each branch of government, it's significant
(48:27):
that the third one is the court system. Yeah, probably
because it's intended to Yes, it's unelected, and it was
intended to be the least influential of the three.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
And I just don't see where these district judges can
dictate what a president can and can't do.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Well.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
I think it's going to end up in the Supreme
Courts lab before it's over with, because he will host
us so far. And you know, here's the thing is,
he didn't go in. Now, had he gone in and
said fire all the black people or fire all the
gay people or the LGP fire them. That'd be different.
What he said, fire all the probationary employees, all these
(49:09):
people who have not established permanency in their position, go
ahead and fire all of them, which you can fire
probationary employee without costs. I mean, talk with your wife,
But I mean if you did it as a as
an entire class of people, that being everybody, not a
proteion to do it all the time. Absolutely, they go,
we got a downsize, we're laying off this many people.
(49:30):
And they didn't. They can't accuse him of discriminating against
any particular protected class. They're just firing it. He just said,
fire these.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
They're trying to do is create a protected class, which
is federal employees.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Right, and that you work for the government, you can't
be No, that's what the problem with government employees a
lot of times is because it's so hard to fire them.
Absolutely well, he said that's not that hard. Watch hold
my beer and watch this, and he got rid of them.
Now I hate it for him, And I don't know
what gonna happen with a post office because now they're
going to try to fix that mess. And it's just
(50:04):
been barely hanging on.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Thank you. Well, I think in the very near future,
I'm afraid that you will see the US Postal Service
become privatized. I think you're going to see a lot
of privatization of a lot of branches of the God
I think. I think, I think NASSA will go away
and be privatized.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Actually, the post Offices is actually mentioned in Article one
of the Constitution as an authority of Congress.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Okay, well, there you go, the Congress, the Congress has
control over that. Then it may still exist.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Uh yeah, there's there's to establish post offices and post roads.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah. Well in the constitutions, did you see where Chuck
Shimmer is going to vote for the continuing Resolution to
keep government open because he doesn't want Trump to win.
Uh he if we shut the government down, he wins.
And then and old Trump say to go, please don't
throw me into briar past. Okay, if if, if you're
(51:02):
if you're helping me in order to hurt me. Uh yeah,
you keep playing that game. And then all the crazy
left ones are like, oh no, no, no, no, we can't.
They don't. I don't think any of them know what
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, I agree. I fully agree with.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
That, which means that this time for a big, vast
press the reset button. I think that's what's happened. Next week, chickens,
We'll see y'all,
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