April 26, 2025 • 51 mins
In today's episode, the Talon guys discuss the places and ways in which you can lawfully protect yourself in Florida. Notably, gun free zones are the common fixation for those seeking to commit atrocities, so how can we avoid that? Is there legislation that can be passed to fix those issues?
They also discuss more lighthearted subjects like the current shellcracker fishing taking place on #LakeSeminole, and why collecting #pokemon cards are so popular.
Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
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They also discuss more lighthearted subjects like the current shellcracker fishing taking place on #LakeSeminole, and why collecting #pokemon cards are so popular.
Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
Check out our archive of podcasts here: https://ihr.fm/36mzYjf.
Follow the Talon Training Group and Range on Facebook @TalonRange.
Listen live to the Talon Outdoors Show from 10-11 a.m. ET on 100.7 WFLA!
WFLA Tallahassee Live stream: https://ihr.fm/3huZWYe
Follow WFLA Tallahassee on Twitter @WFLAFM and like us on Facebook at @wflafm.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And welcome to the Talent Outdoor Show. I'm Charlie, I'm
j D.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm through Captain Paul tar and I'm Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We don't talk about so before the show, we got
to discussing some stuff as far as the legalities of
some stuff in Florida. I'm sure even the Alabama folks
listen to our show and everybody else are familiar with,
you know, recent events and Tyler hassee have brought the
light discussions about you know, what might we do, what
(00:32):
could we do to protect ourselves better when we are
out in public places and you know, one of those
places in a college town like Tylahassee, even in the
Doathan the area certainly up in different in communities that
have school campuses, and with the advent of school firearms
(00:52):
related events and things, I mean even locally, there's kids
getting arrested all the time with guns and backpacks and
you just never know what's going on, and so a
lot of questions have come up about well, where where
can I carry a gun to defend myself? And you know,
how old does my kid have to be to have
a gun, and how all these these things come up,
(01:14):
and so, you know, j D you and I generally
assume people know this because we know this, you know,
we we sit around and have these conversations all the time.
And Paul, you had a couple of questions about where
might it might be legal to carry, and now the
Alabama audience, it's a little bit different but very similar.
So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna speak to some
(01:34):
of that because I don't have that on my fingertips
at the moment. But pretty much in Alabama you can
open Carrie, you can conceal Carrie. In Florida, you can
conceal carry now without a permit if you're twenty one
or older, and yes you can. You can have a gun, Jeddy, right,
if you're eighteen, you just can't buy one. You can't
(01:55):
buy a handgun, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You can be gifted one if your parents want to
give you a gun when you're grown up.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You're an adult.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Actually at sixteen, you can be in possession of a
gun if you have a hunting license and whatever, if
somebody wants to give you, know, if your parents say, yeah,
go get the shotgun out of the closet and go
go squirrel hunting.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
There are eighteen nineteen twenty year olds that have fire
pistols in their possession, they can't carry them per the
concealed carry laws in Florida, but they cam in their
apartment and just has to be securely incased. It not
otherwise readily accessible in Florida, which means it needs to
be in a glove compartment, or in a box with
a lid, or zipped in a gun case, or snapped
(02:34):
in a holster. There's some debate on what snapped in
a holster means, but you know that comes up from
time to time. I encourage people to have some sort
of positive retention device on that holster, not just friction
fit there again, you know, can you be charged, would
you be charged, would you win in court? You know,
that's more of a fred question on the legal end,
(02:56):
But we could go on for hours on that. I
don't want to get too deep down that rap the hole,
but but you can. One of the big issues that
I see in Florida now is that we don't have
the ability to carry a firearm in a campus facility
at a university or a school. And with recent events,
it brought to light the fact that we.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Well, we see we we've seen these we have seen
these mass shooting events or these these mass murders, they
routinely and almost always choose gun free zones to do
their to do their evil work because there is a
(03:38):
very low likelihood being most most gun owners being there
attempting to be law abiding citizens.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's it's they know that they're that they're not going
to likely encounter a citizen that's going to intervene that
there there, they are expecting a law enforcement response that
usually takes a whole lot longer than it took at
FSU last week.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, well, you and I both came from FSU police,
and we understand, you know, we know.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You know, and I will, I will, I don't, you know,
we're the response of the law enforcement ulcers at FSU
was phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But the problem is is that if I'm if I'm
somewhere on campus. Now, let's take away, you know, any
of the statuses that you and I have as relates
to retired law enforcement. And I'm still certified currently our
ability to carry in places that some people might not
be able to, So forget it.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I still I'm not exempt from them, not exempt from
the school statue.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, you can't I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
As a as a retired law enforcement ofcer, I can't
carry on school campus.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Right, And so I remember when I was when I
went back to get my master's degree many years ago.
I was a sergeant at the Sheriff's office in Leon County,
and I was in training, you know, as a as
a supervising the training unit. And I would wear red
shirt and khaki pants, and I had a gun and
(05:04):
a holster and a badge on my belt, and I
would go to my night classes and I carried openly
and I could do that as a law enforcement officer,
and no one else in the class could carry. And
apparently there were some people in the room that got
offended by that, you know, it was made them uncomfortable.
(05:25):
I think it was a Chinese national student here on
a student visa or whatever and made a complaint, and
it went up the chain, and they the professor in
their class. I forget which PhD it was, said hey,
you know, just to let you know I support what
you're doing, but there's been a there's been some a complaint,
(05:48):
and I ended up I don't know if I spoke
with a dean of the business school or whether I
forget how it happened. But I got a phone call
from the chief of police at the time at the university,
who's a nice guy, got along with him just great,
and he says, hey, Charlie, this is Chief So and So.
(06:09):
I got a you know, we got a complaint and
I have to talk to you about it, and would
you do me a favor and not carry your firearm
in the class? And I went, with respect, my friend,
I am going to continue to carry my firearm in class.
And he said, can you at least cover it up?
And I said nope. First off, I mean, you know,
(06:30):
with respect, you can't make me because I am a
by god deputy sheriff. And the policy Sheriff's office says
you shall carry a firearm at all times. And he goes,
you sure that's a policy. I said, well, I helped
the sheriff write it, and you know, I teach it
pretty I was in the meetings when we changed that
(06:53):
policy at the time. I don't know what it says anymore,
and I don't care. It's that's up to them. But
I said, I said, you feel free to call Larry
Campbell and talk to him. And he goes, I don't
think that'll be necessary. And I said, here's the thing.
If I anybody that comes into that class to shoot
up that classroom is probably gonna know who's in there.
(07:13):
And if I'm in there, they're gonna I am, and
I'm the first one to get shot.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I'm only that you're wearing a uniform, although it not
a typical.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It's got a badge brod on the shirt or whatever
the case is.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You're wearing a Hey, I'm a cop.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, I said it. And it being visible, it is
a visible deterrent to that. And I said, so no,
I'm going to carry And if it makes somebody that uncomfortable,
then they need to take a different class, because I'm
paying for my tuition just like they are. And and
I kind I kind of know who it was because
it was somebody said something and he can pack his
(07:47):
bag and go back to his country because right here.
And it wasn't the free state of Florida then like
it is now. And so I went and talked with U.
And I had a few classes left, and at the
beginning of each class, I'd go to the professor teaching
the class and I go, hey, you know, just to
let you know, this is a deal that has made
some people uncomfortable in the past, but in that class
it came up and I said, listen, I just want
(08:08):
to bring this up. Somebody in here complaint and I
want you to know I'm not I'm I'm good. I'm
here to protect you and protect myself. And there was
a guy that showed up in a military uniform every
class he was He was in the military reserves, and
he was had rank and he was going there and
getting his degree too. In the night program we were
(08:31):
in and he said, well, I want to thank Sergeant
Strickland for coming here with this gun on, because I
have to wear a uniform every day because I leave
the and I come here in uniform, and I'm the
first one to get shot when somebody walks in the door.
And I don't want he said, having someone in here
that can protect me makes me feel better because I
(08:52):
don't have a choice. I cannot carry and I have
to wear this uniform. And so well in the in
the we always sat next each other. After that, I can.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Tell you this. When I used to teach night school
at TCC, and I guess call it Florida State College
and Tallahasse County State College. Okay, I had a female
police officer as one of my students, and she was
pretty good looking too.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Has nothing to do with the story.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
It made me feel out there. She was, she knows
who she is, and she she wore a uniform carried gun.
I always felt pretty safe having.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Her in there, as you should. But I think we'd all,
most of us would feel safe for if we knew
that the law could be changed where responsible adults twenty
one or older under Florida current law could in fact
carry a fire them into a campus facility lawfully to
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And we're back. So when we left, we were talking
about campus carry and things of that nature and gun
free zones and.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, you have a point. Yeah, if you look back
at the history of of whatever we whatever we're calling
this today, I still call it mass murder. Uh you know,
active shooter response, active shooter stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You know, I think the politically correct term now that
people are using their teaching classes is active assailant. Okay,
so okay.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, so so so when you have when you have
when you have these nut jobs that get a gun
and go and try to stack a body count and
get a body count as high as they can, And
that's really what it's that's really what their goal is.
To to die in infamy and to say that we
all remember their name. That's generally what their goal. Is.
(11:41):
You do have some that are out there on a limb.
That are some that are doing it for political or
religious reasons. You have it, But for the most part,
it's somebody with something wrong with them that just just
want to go kill a bunch of people. They generally speaking,
not even generally speaking, at a vast majority of the time,
they choose gun free zones or events or places where
(12:05):
there is a low likelihood of the average armed citizen
intervening in their in their plan.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I can't think of one where there has.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
A couple of parades and stuff like that. You've had some,
but the vast majority of there's a reason they pick schools.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, they never picked police stations or gun stores.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Or yeah, exactly, they pick schools, or they pick movie theaters.
In the movie theaters where you have this, uh you
know the big signs that don't bring your gun in here,
that that are that are not worth the paper they're
printed on in Florida, but in some states those signs
do carry weights, you know. So you have these these
things where they are expecting themselves to be the only
(12:43):
one with a firearm.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Or like in Vegas, they get so far away nobody
can shoot back right, or they drive a big vehicle
through a few or something, no one, Eventually they're gonna
probably get shot, but they're they're not going to pick
a fair fight.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Right, they won't. They want easy target so they can
get the numbers up. And that's just generally speaking, you
know it kind of the big event, the pivotal event
in this country was the Columbine shooting. And you know
that we were as law enforcement, we were totally unprepared
and un you know, ready for that. There was a
(13:18):
there was an event a long time ago at was
it Texas A and M or University of Texas, the
Bell Tower, the.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Guy that went up in the belt nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, sixty six was kind of like the first Yeah,
late sixties.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
October of nineteen sixty six, the month and the year
I was born.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So you had you had that event, You had a sparse,
sporadic events. Now it's becoming all too common because one
media coverage too. You know, they're like I said, there,
somebody's looking to do better than the last one. Uh.
The few times they have tried it in public areas
that were just general public areas that weren't parades, whatever else.
(13:56):
The most recent one I can think of is a
guy tried it in a mall some where.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
He got shot.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
He got shot real quick by some some smoke that
was out there eating a sandwich at the food court
and intervened and stopped it before it really got started,
and everybody forgot about it in a big hurry. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
And that guy he had done he could have been
a guy that came out here, took Charlie's class, that's
the training he had, yep.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
And he just average joe, not even really a competitive shooter,
and did incredible work and stopped this bad guy that
could have racked up this giant body count. And it
stopped it virtually immediately, and the death toll was so low,
and the event was such a non it was it
was famous in our circles for a little bit of
time because we were cheering on the good guy that
(14:45):
stopped the bad guy with a gun.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah. The one the one exception I can think of
would have been when the Sutherland Spring shooting at church,
right at church, because they had armed people every day
in that church just that day. None of them had
gone to church. That guy was familiar with the congregation
and he went there looking for the ex girlfriend X
(15:08):
wife's mother in law, something like that, and ultimately he
walked into a church full of unarmed people. That day,
there was somebody on moments away going to come to
church that would have had a gun. And then you know,
our friend went in and intervened with his AR fifteen.
But that's the only one I can think of where
there was a strong likelihood that it would have been
(15:28):
a fight with some armed people. But the fact is
is you have to look at the general trend, and
the trend is where are they shooting folks that's in
gun free zones? And so how do we combat that. Well,
you can get into the mental health care, you can
get into the gun you can get all the laws
and all the things. None of that matters. What matters
is how hard is the target? And the target gets
(15:49):
a lot harder whenever the target can fight back. And
if you can.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, and you know, and I know that their their
heart's probably not in the wrong place. But you see,
you see these protests and Mark so we've had in
Tallahassee in the last week where they're they're they're just
we got to do something about the guns. Do something
about the guns. Do something about the guns. And it's
so illogical to me because the first thing I think, Okay,
(16:14):
let's let's pass a bunch of gun laws right now.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
But but if we did pass a bunch of more
strict gun laws than we have right now. Okay, the
bad guy, so let's say the bad guy that committed
committed to murders, uh also broke a bunch of gun
laws doing what he did.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Exactly, what if you're.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Willing to commit the most heinous crime in our society,
which is homicide, If you're willing to commit a murder,
you are most assuredly willing to violate the trespassing with
the gun laws, the carry unlawful carry laws, the whatever
magazine capacity laws that some states have. You got all
these other uh whatever you call those secondary charges. Sure,
(17:00):
legal term for that, and I'll let you go with that.
But they're willing to commit murder, folks, they're willing to
break all the other laws too.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Well, that's exactly what I told my secretary when news
broke that this was going down. That can't be true.
There's a law prohibiting guns on campus, and you know
that that's the sarcastic. But the point is they don't
care about those laws.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
They don't care about any laws. Now if they're willing
to break the worst one of all, I mean, they
certainly don't care about the other ones.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Well, after the after the shooting in South Florida here
years ago, Governor Scott then at the time, signed legislation.
Then our legislature passed restricting sales to people under the
age of handguns sale or any guns any days of
twenty one. They've banned certain I think what was it?
(17:52):
Was it triggers.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, well, that bump stock and the force reset trigger
all that. That was a different That was a difference
statute the but it was something three. The three day
weight on all guns in Florida was part of the
Marjorie Stoneman Douglas Act. The prohibited sales to anyone under
twenty one was part of the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas Act.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Had zero effect on anything, has not stopped anything. Arguably.
I would just show me where it would have made
a difference. Yeah, and we're in this state, in the
free State of Florida, where we're supposed to be setting
examples for the rest of the country. Most states concealed
carry laws were based off of Florida's law.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
And the overwhelming vast majority of guns used in crimes
from coast to coast any states you want to look
at any crime you want, the vast majority the guns
were obtained unlawfully in some fashion or another. Sure, whether
by somebody buying it and lying on their back light,
lying on their forty four to seventy three, you know
(18:52):
they stealing The biggest one is stealing them or taking
them without permission. That is the big a number one.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
But yet they're a gun stolen in the Tallahassee Leon
County area almost daily out of vehicles around here. You're
telling me, you're telling me that changing the law to
restrict LA difference. Yeah, I mean, you're gonna you're gonna
take away rights and you make it eat more you
can eat for law of abiding people with a fact.
I mean, listen, if you're leaving your gun in your
(19:20):
vehicle in a neighborhood at night, you're just contributing to
the problem. Don't do that. I mean, I don't care
if you lock it or you don't like it or whatever.
And there's this move all the time from the Sheriff's office,
police apartment, you know, lock up to Lincoln sharfsofe your
nine pm routine is make sure your vehicles locked. You know,
security firearms, do all that kind of stuff, and that's
(19:40):
all good. And as responsible law abiding gun on er,
you should not be leaving crap outside where people can
steal it. I mean that's like leaving your rifle and
your gun racking the truck and not locking your door.
And then you want to know why they stole it
and why it was used in a crime. Well, you're
contributing to the problem, not the solution. And it is
also making it more likely that somewhere along the line
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they're gonna pass more legislation to try to keep reasonable,
law abiding people from doing things that are careless and
make it harder on all of us. And it's not
that it's gonna make a difference because you're still gonna
do it. You're still gonna do it. You're just gonna
be able to be charged criminally then because they passed
the law because you wouldn't act right. So y'all act
right and do the right thing. Now, I'm gonna say,
(20:22):
there's not guns in my vehicles at night, but I
live in the middle of hunters and acres out in
the middle of nowhere, and if you come on my property,
there's gonna be a dog barking, you might get attacked
by a turkey. You know, there's and and the lights
are gonna come on and and the video camera is
gonna come on and you're probably gonna be looking down
the barrel in one of my guns. But that said,
(20:42):
you know, you gotta think.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
About there's devices and boxes and things you can put
in your car to make it more secure if you
feel the need to leave a gun in your car.
They make gun safes that go in the center consoles
or in the you know, under the seat, and then
you can lock.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Them down right out there.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
They make it more more difficult for the gun to
be stolen. And yeah, I mean, and it is careless
and but but it's also not criminal on the gun
owners behalf. It's just not smart right now, right now.
And but every time this happens, you're gonna have the
cry or we got a pass. And that's that's not
just guns, that's that's everything in our society. When something
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goes sideways, half the half the population. And I'm not
saying which half. It's just half the population is gonna
stand up and we gotta pass a law. You know,
one one side of the other. We gotta we gotta
pass a law.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
We're gonna we're gonna legislate this world back into common sense.
And and.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
No, you can't. That's exactly right, and it's the immoral
people are going to do immoral things.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Let me had one thing that I think is pertin
this conversation. If you find a gun that's abandoned property,
if it dovetails on what you said stealing or taking
without permission, there's no difference under Florida law. If you
find that gun, you have a duty to report it
to law enforcement by Florida law, and it's not you
(22:12):
don't just appropriate. If you're walking around the woods in
the middle of the National Forest you find a firearm,
you have to report that to the jurisdiction that you're in.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
The law enforcement. The phone here a lot, that's what
you need to call law enforcement. There is if you
find it on the side of the road, there's a
good chance that gun was probably used in a crime
and tossed away, and you probably need a report.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
A case full of cash.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
You got to report that too. If it's a dog,
you gotta report.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
You do I report the whole amount, or just you
can call me first.
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there and I bought this week and this week I
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bought a I've been tractor shopping because I needed something
with hay fork's on the front, and I went up
there and bought a They made the forty forty. I
have a forty four forty at the house I'm working on.
It was Daddy's Tractors. But they had a there's a
fellow up there bought this forty forty when it was
two years old. Now they made this tractor from nineteen
seventy eight to nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
I think, is that that tractor you talked about when
you called me the other day.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I had no idea. Did I talk to you the
other day?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, you said you had to go buy a tractor.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Probably was because this is the one I bought. I
did go look at another one. But anyway, long story short,
I'm talking this guy and we were discussing when people
went from four row equipment to six row equipment. Now
it all folds up, and I said, yeah, I remember
when when we went from like an eight foot to
a ten foot. Daddy bought a fourteen foot disc and
(26:04):
I I had to fix every mailbox between our house
and four End Store on seventy three South because we
farmed all over the place. Daddy would go find five acres,
ten acres, forty acres, whatever he could and go out,
we're gonna farm, you know, Miss so and so's Miss
Maddie's field this year. And we got Miss SD's place
up there, and blah blah blah blah blah. I still
(26:25):
see those fields a day, and some of them are
housing developments, and some of them are still being farmed
and houses torn down. People gone passed on. But I
go down that road, and back then, the roads weren't
as white as they are, and the equipment got bigger
and the roads wasn't growing with the equipment, and usual
there was one road over Dry Creek that I would get.
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I had a ten sixty six International harvester with a
real heavy duty disc behind it, and the disc only
had about eight inches on either side to get across
this state highway bridge, and I'd have to get a
run in store art and to look around the curve,
make sure what nobody coming, and I'd hit that thing
in a dead run and hope nobody met me head on.
(27:07):
But you know, yeah, my brothers and sisters in farming,
please man, just look back because that gets that gets uh,
it gets a little frustrating sometimes. Now we all expect
to wait. I mean, we got to wake because agriculture
is in the South, one of the most important industries,
if not the most important industry.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
But they all like to eat.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So yeah, yeah, I fully I support you, I respect you.
But y'all be careful out there and be patient because
these farmers they are having I mean, they don't want
to stop and build that mailbox back and be able
to get your mailboxes off the side of the road.
Move it over there a few feet. I mean, you
ought to have enough room to be able to pull over,
and the mailman ought to be able to get off
(27:49):
the side of the road and put your move move
a few feet over and that will help out the
whole thing, so we all share responsibility. That's my public
service announcement for everybody's safety. When we come back, we're
gonna talk more about guns and fun stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
But I just want to reach out to the dooth
and audience one more time and let them remind them
about the sig shoots competition down here.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
May Okay, So yeah, we find all on our Facebook page.
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Oh, we finished up one hundred yard rifle range. We
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Cover get a lot of hues to come hunting see.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Them, and yeah, and just plinking. You don't have to
go to the four hundred and fight. Everybody's shooting for undred.
We'll be back.
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you see this picture daty?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah? I was trying to figure out they're trying to
hide the paper powel rollers.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
So that's a that's a. I was at Befo Brady's
in Marianna eating last night, and this caught me several
It's got me several times. I go in there and
I go to wash my hands and don't I don't
see the soap, and then you know, and then I
see it, and then I turn around and need a
paper towel, and they have They have a cameo patterns.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
It's like a real tree or.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Real tree cameo wrapped the soap dispenser and the paper
towel dispenser. And for a second it gets you because
they've got this marble background by air and it blends
in and I post it on Facebook, save it on
paper tiles. Well, here's here's my post on Facebook. I
posted and what I said was was in quotation marks.
(30:34):
Hey boss, good news. Our paper towels usage in the
bathroom is going way down since we camouflage a dispenser.
Only problem is nobody's using soap. And right behind it
there's a camouflage soap dispenser. And I know the owner there,
and I know he probably didn't think about it that way.
But it's funny. It's funny to me. It's you know,
you think about the things you don't notice, and you
(30:56):
can't make stuff harder. For me to see because I
won't notice.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
So what you saying. What you're saying is they need
to wrap it in blaze orange so it jumps out
at you so you know that there's nothing.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
And somebody right here said, uh, said Matt Matthew Shot
said solid point that maybe it needs a little orange
vest for better visibility. See you and Matt Shot, I
had the same thought. Is that scary or what? Hey?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
That probably increases you wait time for the employees to
come wash your hands.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Well, I mean we were waited on by the sheriff's daughter,
so I mean it's it's uh, it was just pretty pretty.
Uh the small town stuff, man, I mean, you know
you and that's what it should have been. I think
I might have tag hashtag. You might be a Riddeneck
looking at the camouflage dispensers. We need to do that, Nicet.
(31:47):
Just you know, I got nothing better to do. Go
in there and just wrapped the paper Tael dispenser camouflage.
Lord knows, I got nothing else going on.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I think we need to paint a bulls eye on
that thing on the urally there because they get some
more on. There's more on the floor. Most of the time,
and I don't know what it is with that.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
It's like, come on, glad, we got people to clean
this bathroom.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I am too.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Right before the show, I went in there, I washed
my hands and I reached over to our non camouflage
paper title dispensary, and we didn't have any paper to
I was in.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Speaking of cleaning, Speaking of cleaning, did you notice the
double doors going into the going into the back area
back there, the workshop and the storage room and all
that stuff where we work back there.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Man, I'm walked in here, walked in the studio. Ain't
looked when you got final cleaning after five years.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
When we get yeah, yeah, and that all that that
build up.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Of black grime on crime on the door.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Let me tell you that taaling Gungjese, I sprayed that
stuff on there, took old gold, took a I'm surprised.
Cleaned up so good man. I cleaned. That's why my
hands are so dirty air all time. I clean guns.
Every day I cleaned somebody's gun. They willing to pay
me to do it.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Well, I mean, we we got a parts clean in
there now. Matt snatched to dad gun Foster off the
wall yesterday and couldn't flush a toilet for a whole day,
Matt said. Matt said, ouse turning it off and it broke. Yeah,
I got a real story. I got a real story
on that one.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Christened Dimedy Mouse said yeah, he was snatching on the
hose and trying to.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Get I said something about taking it out of his paycheck.
You know, he's doing these Pokeyman's cards and stuff. He's
selling the Pokemon cards on on on the internet. And
I said something about that that repair bill coming out
of his paycheck. And he asked me if if I
wanted a cash or or or shiny shiny cardboard, and
he goes, I got a four hundred dollars a Pokemon card,
(33:39):
I'll give you for it. And I was like, I
know from you only want cash because you're probably printing
that up at the house.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I want, I want hard silvery. He handed me a
plastic card holder with some cheese or on or cheese litter,
this pokeymon car and one of those cards, and he goes,
give that to give that. CJ and I took get home.
When I'm like okay, I handed CJ and I said, hey, Matt,
(34:06):
I said, get this to you. And he turned it
over and saw what it was, I mean, and his
jaw dropped and he's like, really, really it's mine. I said, yeah,
he this is so cool.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Well, Matt tried to give me I'm giving.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Him guns before in his name, and he's like a
piece of side of cardboards like, oh man, this is this?
Do you know what this is? And I want, I
don't care. Well, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
You know, it's it's basically Fred, it's a well, you know,
I go back, I go back to my brother in
law that it is a big time baseball baseball card,
sports member, memorabilia collector guy and and you know, kind
of has him a little side gig and doing all that,
and you would be shocked. I know, I'm shocked at
(34:55):
what baseball cards. Well, this is the same thing for
a different generation. Nobody cares about baseball cards anymore.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
That is not a real person. That's not it's a
it's a it's a made up looking cartoon dude with
spiky hair.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
It's still it's still shiny. It's shiny cardboard anyway you
look at it. I know, but it's a we don't
have to understand everything that the young.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Hold on Now these people don't what are those guns?
You always playing with it? This is worth this, This
is worth that. They don't even work like new ones do.
Why why are they worth so much money?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Because you're good? Because they're guns, they're wood, they're blue,
and they're it took an artist artists to make.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
And it's not.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Took it took some AI artists some something to make
those dead gun gun.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, it's it's just it's not even artwork. It looks
like a Hunter Biden pain.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
It's it's it's cartoon characters.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, I mean, well I don't get the old I mean,
you know, you look at classical art and I look
at it and I go, okay, why would you spend
millions upon millions of dollars?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I guess it's I mean like a Mona Lisa, I
mean something like that. That's that's a that's a work
of art. But this is a mass printed Japanese.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
So here's so here's how there's here's how Matt explained
it to me. Was in his generation, okay, which is
between us and anybody that sees this crap on TikTok
or Instagram. Those those kids that don't get.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Its millennials and those gen zs and millennium, so in
in Maths generation, they grew up where the Pokemon cards
and Pokemon was a big.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Deal, and a lot and a lot of them didn't
have a lot of the money to invest in the
cards and they and they may have lost collections. And
now they're looking back and they have money and resources
and time, and they want to relive that that's something
that they grew up with. And so now there are
there collectors in every generation. People in our generation by
(36:48):
antiques and guns and different things. But he said there's
a market, and it's not ninety percent of them. It's
a fraction of them, like anything else. And so they
look at it as a way to go back and
relift some of their youth and have the really cool
stuff that they didn't necessarily have the opportunity to get.
Now they've got the money to go buy the card
(37:09):
they were chasing. They were going buying these packs. They
open these packs and they and they go through the
cards and they find the one that wanted. They've been
chasing this card for a while. Now they see it
on the internet and a guy says, you can buy
this card for nineteen ninety nine. Here it is, and
they'll sit there and I watch this stuff sometimes and
I don't even know. I don't get one. I mean
to me, it's not that I don't get it, but
(37:31):
I do get it because so I look at old
toys that I grew up with. You know, if you
get me a stretch Armstrong or something like that and
knew in the box, I would go, that's cool, that
is cool. What's cool to us, but it's not cool
to them. That what the Mind's not cool to us,
but it is cool to them. And so it's a generation.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
The man thing came out. I was.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Listen here, listen here, listen, listen here, unc.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I can't hear TikTok now, old head, old head getting
all mad about Pokemon.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
It should have been illegal when it started.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
It was just here we go again.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I never understand. I mean, you get these weirdos running
around her orange chair, run around the park looking for
some kind of electronic signal, and you know, now they're
getting all nostalgic about it because they find it on eBay.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Well remember Pokemon Go when everybody was running around.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Run over by cars because they're chasing a.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
People in the middle of the road.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
You know, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
I'm looking for Pokemon.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well, it was hard to establish probable calls on some
people when we were on patrol back in the day.
They were playing Pokemon. What are they doing? I ain't.
They're trying to capture something, something out.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
There, and I don't even know how you captured.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I installed that on my phone for a while just
so I could see what they were doing. And you
be running along and just out of random, you know,
you look over there and you hold your phone up.
I forget how it worked now, and I'm like, I
don't really get the whole The people are going places.
It's almost like geocashing, where you know, you have some
GPS points to go to and you go there and
you leave something to pick something up. I never really
(39:11):
got that either, But it's kind of cool in a way.
You don't want me involved in that because I was
gonna find somewhere to put it where couldn't nobody to
get to it. It's at the top of that telephone.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
I mean, you don't get money, you don't, there's nothing.
It's a waste of time.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
But for the people that it has value to. As
a lot of that to them, they will spend money
on it. We'll be right.
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Speaker 4 (41:27):
If I wanted to get the nicest bass rig riding
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to have it custom made or anything like that, what
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Speaker 1 (41:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
For the real be a shamana karta karate sarata spelled.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
Ceu are a d o.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I think that's close.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Shamana karatas karate karate. Okay, that's a very good rod,
I mean, real, very real bait caster reel. For a
spinning reel, it would be a Shamano strip, not a Stella.
I was just that would be the one that's a
little bit better. Now, Yeah, they just come out a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
There.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
That's very nice and Stella's that I think for they're
very nice reels. I have four stratis and those are
they definitely cast further. I haven't got a Stella yet,
but that is.
Speaker 6 (42:19):
A very good reel.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Okay, Now that's for that's that's for spinding, that's for spinning.
They're good for salt water too, By the way.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
You can. I'll just make sure you clean them.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Yeah, very well, they're sealed.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I mean that's right, but still you need to if
you take it anytime salt water, you need to really
clean it for sure.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Well you use your what do you call that stuff?
The spray.
Speaker 6 (42:40):
Yeah, we've had to try this on the rod.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
You know.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
I hadn't thought about that. So that's that's my question
about the reel. What about the ride? What what is
we're talking like the best ride.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
You could get, you know, g Loomis is. They're very
good rod.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Now they carry a lifetime warranty, Yes they do, and
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Speaker 6 (43:02):
They got they got different levels. But their top of
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Speaker 4 (43:06):
It's very nice cast.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
That's right. They have spinning reels too. They're spinning rods too.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Absolutely, I'm talking about bass. We're not talking about red fish.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
You fish for you fish for bass with spinning riggs.
If you're throwing light baked little ned riggs or something.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
I'm talking about bake cast.
Speaker 6 (43:22):
What you're about you all right?
Speaker 4 (43:25):
All right? So the g Loomits be like the top
line what is like a very good quality for the
money rod that you know you're on a budget and
you want to but you want a good ride's gonna
last you a long long time.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I would look at either a T f O Timble
Fork Outfitters rod.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
I make a very they make a very good rod.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I've actually had some some seven foot spinning rods I've
used for I guess the last ever since you got
them JD here about five years ago.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
And we don't sell we don't. We got a few left,
but we're we're out of the fishing tackle business here.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
For the most part.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
They're really good, very good.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
The TFO, yeah, very good.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
They're they're made in Korea.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I just saw a thing that's in they're going to
with the tear stuff going on, the prices could be increasing,
but they haven't yet.
Speaker 6 (44:11):
But very good rod.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
The vast majority of all fishing tackle yes today is
made in Korea.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
Yes, Korea, okay, so light and Hina too.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
So now we've talked about a quality economical rock down
the top of line, what's mid level?
Speaker 6 (44:25):
Mid level would be? Uh for you? I would definitely
say the strata for a mid.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Level No, no, not not the real the right the.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Rod, I would They now got TFO timber fork outfit.
They're about one hundred and forty to one hundred and sixty
dollars rod. They've got two hundred and fifty three hundred
dollars rods. They're going to be lighter. Okay, you when
you go up to the more expensive rods, that the
lighter they become.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
And is that an advantage for bass fishing to have
a lighter Actually, if you're.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
Doing something light, you can it's a lot more sensitive.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
But I've learned things you can do to add some
weight to the to the butt and you can make
a hundred dollars rod for like a three hundred one. Really, yes,
it makes a big difference.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Just adding way to the butt of it.
Speaker 6 (45:04):
Adding weight to the butt of it.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
All I do is take or you can go to
you can go to gym next door. The customer rod
made like you want it, and you're not talking about
a huge difference in price.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
He makes really not very good rod that that's the
one I've got for the shell cracker.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
I've used it speaking of you just so this guying.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
So we do have a custom rod, yes, the building
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Speaker 6 (45:30):
And he'll make something exact to your specifications, what.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
You're telling, what you're gonna do with it, and he
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He does the type of handles you want, all that
and everything.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Let me ask this. I've got a couple of rods
that tips broke off the fix that absolutely they don't
make the rod anymore.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
Don't matter, you can fix it ring ring them next.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Don't matter what does all right.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
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this is the day, this is Thursday, calls me Thursday afternoon.
He says, what you doing in the morning. I was like,
I'm going to work. You think you can get off work?
And I'm like, I just got it.
Speaker 6 (46:11):
For a couple of hours. I know, but I just
get down here.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
I had too much on my plate, things I had
to get done today. He goes and finds a shell
cracker bed and and and calls me, you know, hey,
So I guarantee you he has been before this ship,
before were recording the show this Friday morning. I guarantee
you he was sitting on a shell cracker bed and
Charlie here.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
And on the phone on a show cracker bed this.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
Morning, Yes, sir, an hour four daylight.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
I went my minute where he said, sign this boat
leaving at five. So I had to follow him in mind.
And I get down there and I'm running lights, you know,
so I can see.
Speaker 6 (46:45):
That's exactly what.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Itbody a lot more colorful language than that, and I
was like, I was just seeing where I was going.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
He said, everybody, and where we're going.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
Everybody, No where're going to see where? I was like, yes, sir,
I just I just turned the lights off.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
I just I knew exactly where. Don't you let nobody
see us. We got up in here and we got
to get on this. We don't have forty seven boats
part around us.
Speaker 6 (47:03):
That's exactly was you there?
Speaker 3 (47:05):
I know, But I just I was in spirit, Yes,
in spirit, I was with you this morning, sir.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
I just talked to my buddy West. It's gotten a
fella from Tennessee, Aaron, Tennessee. He's come down, come down
last night, staying with us. And and I think when
I last time I talked to him there at seventy four,
So they get it.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
They have a little fifty per person.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
Man now air in Tennessee is a is a very small.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yes, he said, it's a small little play.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
We had some friends overall, We had some family friends
that moved from Chattahoochee to Aaron, Tennessee. Really and the
first time I ever fished Kentucky Lake was with Joe Meacham.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
He passed on Yeah, he says, right now Kentucky Lake.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
But uh, yeah, we when I was a kid went
up there in fish Kentucky Lake. Me and my granddaddy
and Joe, And uh.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
That's for they fish jump out of the lake and
hit you in ahead when you're riding your boat.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Now they were, Now they did those those cart Wasn't
there a kid? Yeah, that's bullheads or big head carp
or whatever they are. Uh yeah, I don't know what
they eat, but I can tell you there's places in
along the Mississippi River we used to hunt. I hunted
up near north of Vicksburg for years and years and years.
(48:16):
And uh, did I tell you Jerry passed away. Jerry Johnson,
the guy that we duck honey with out there for
years and years and years passed away. But anyway, first
time I went in one of those lakes and I
have a surface drive had a surface drive motor at
the time, and I'm running across that thing and all
of a sudden, what And I'm like, what in the
word it is cold? I know it wasn't gator. I mean,
it's like I hit something. It was one of them
(48:38):
carp jumping out of the water and hitting the side
of the boat. And I had my headlamp on, driving
the boat with my head lamp, and I turned around
and looked behind me and them. Things were jumping all
out of the water, and I almost considered just foregoing
the duck hunting and jump shooting some carp. I mean,
I thought that would have been verbe funny right around
(48:59):
with the shot gun and you know, get somebody to
drive the boat and you shoot them when they jump
out of the back. That's they're a good deed. I'd
probably try that.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
I hear they've been harvested them up there trying. There's
such a to do what with it.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
They're turning them into dog food, they're trying to make
an industry cat food.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Whatever they're doing.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
It's ruined up.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
It's it's a I've I've heard it can be made edible.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
They say that those snakeheads that are also an invasive
snakehead fish that look looks a lot like what we
call a mudfish, but it ain't the same thing. They've
got spots on them like a pup, looks a lot
like a bow end mudfish whatever, like a prehistory prehistory.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
You s a bowfen out into a mud puddle and
it'll dry up and he'll crawl back to the water.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
But the snakeheads will too. And the snakeheads are an
invasive in South Florida of the big time. But they've
they're finding them all over the US, up and down
and there they are a super predator there a lake. Yeah.
Well they say that they are delicious to eat, and
yeah they were. I read an article they were talking
about the top five invasive species for for the table
(50:08):
fair and they were talking about nutrient, which I've heard
is good. The nutrient is really a delicate, mild flavored
meat like a rabbit. Uh. The iguana, the green iguana,
which I still want to go do that and iguana
hunt that trip. Yeah, and uh, but the snakeheads and
the carp those carp the snakehead fish. And then wild hogs,
(50:29):
because wild hog is as good of eating as you're
going to get.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
But yeah, I'm having the turkeys. I'm watching them on
my home security camera having turkey dripping. I'm talking about fishing.
I got I got turkey exagching.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Sorry sorry to bore you, Charlie.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
But actually had a turkey laying on his stomach, you know, sitting.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
In I am. I am taming these chicks so they
will like me unlike their father. That Hey, Jacob, the
turkey may not be long for this world because he
got after my wife the other day, the only person
in the whole family that can pick him up.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Can You wouldn't get You come over to.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
That you were gonna get the pen with him, and
you didn't get.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I changed my mind, yeah, but only because I didn't
want to kill your turkey in front of you.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
That's the only reason I straightened him out. Anyway. We'll
see y'all all y'all turkeys next week.
And welcome to the Talent Outdoor Show. I'm Charlie, I'm
j D.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm through Captain Paul tar and I'm Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
We don't talk about so before the show, we got
to discussing some stuff as far as the legalities of
some stuff in Florida. I'm sure even the Alabama folks
listen to our show and everybody else are familiar with,
you know, recent events and Tyler hassee have brought the
light discussions about you know, what might we do, what
(00:32):
could we do to protect ourselves better when we are
out in public places and you know, one of those
places in a college town like Tylahassee, even in the
Doathan the area certainly up in different in communities that
have school campuses, and with the advent of school firearms
(00:52):
related events and things, I mean even locally, there's kids
getting arrested all the time with guns and backpacks and
you just never know what's going on, and so a
lot of questions have come up about well, where where
can I carry a gun to defend myself? And you know,
how old does my kid have to be to have
a gun, and how all these these things come up,
(01:14):
and so, you know, j D you and I generally
assume people know this because we know this, you know,
we we sit around and have these conversations all the time.
And Paul, you had a couple of questions about where
might it might be legal to carry, and now the
Alabama audience, it's a little bit different but very similar.
So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna speak to some
(01:34):
of that because I don't have that on my fingertips
at the moment. But pretty much in Alabama you can
open Carrie, you can conceal Carrie. In Florida, you can
conceal carry now without a permit if you're twenty one
or older, and yes you can. You can have a gun, Jeddy, right,
if you're eighteen, you just can't buy one. You can't
(01:55):
buy a handgun, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You can be gifted one if your parents want to
give you a gun when you're grown up.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You're an adult.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Actually at sixteen, you can be in possession of a
gun if you have a hunting license and whatever, if
somebody wants to give you, know, if your parents say, yeah,
go get the shotgun out of the closet and go
go squirrel hunting.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
There are eighteen nineteen twenty year olds that have fire
pistols in their possession, they can't carry them per the
concealed carry laws in Florida, but they cam in their
apartment and just has to be securely incased. It not
otherwise readily accessible in Florida, which means it needs to
be in a glove compartment, or in a box with
a lid, or zipped in a gun case, or snapped
(02:34):
in a holster. There's some debate on what snapped in
a holster means, but you know that comes up from
time to time. I encourage people to have some sort
of positive retention device on that holster, not just friction
fit there again, you know, can you be charged, would
you be charged, would you win in court? You know,
that's more of a fred question on the legal end,
(02:56):
But we could go on for hours on that. I
don't want to get too deep down that rap the hole,
but but you can. One of the big issues that
I see in Florida now is that we don't have
the ability to carry a firearm in a campus facility
at a university or a school. And with recent events,
it brought to light the fact that we.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Well, we see we we've seen these we have seen
these mass shooting events or these these mass murders, they
routinely and almost always choose gun free zones to do
their to do their evil work because there is a
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very low likelihood being most most gun owners being there
attempting to be law abiding citizens.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's it's they know that they're that they're not going
to likely encounter a citizen that's going to intervene that
there there, they are expecting a law enforcement response that
usually takes a whole lot longer than it took at
FSU last week.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, well, you and I both came from FSU police,
and we understand, you know, we know.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You know, and I will, I will, I don't, you know,
we're the response of the law enforcement ulcers at FSU
was phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But the problem is is that if I'm if I'm
somewhere on campus. Now, let's take away, you know, any
of the statuses that you and I have as relates
to retired law enforcement. And I'm still certified currently our
ability to carry in places that some people might not
be able to, So forget it.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I still I'm not exempt from them, not exempt from
the school statue.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, you can't I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
As a as a retired law enforcement ofcer, I can't
carry on school campus.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Right, And so I remember when I was when I
went back to get my master's degree many years ago.
I was a sergeant at the Sheriff's office in Leon County,
and I was in training, you know, as a as
a supervising the training unit. And I would wear red
shirt and khaki pants, and I had a gun and
(05:04):
a holster and a badge on my belt, and I
would go to my night classes and I carried openly
and I could do that as a law enforcement officer,
and no one else in the class could carry. And
apparently there were some people in the room that got
offended by that, you know, it was made them uncomfortable.
(05:25):
I think it was a Chinese national student here on
a student visa or whatever and made a complaint, and
it went up the chain, and they the professor in
their class. I forget which PhD it was, said hey,
you know, just to let you know I support what
you're doing, but there's been a there's been some a complaint,
(05:48):
and I ended up I don't know if I spoke
with a dean of the business school or whether I
forget how it happened. But I got a phone call
from the chief of police at the time at the university,
who's a nice guy, got along with him just great,
and he says, hey, Charlie, this is Chief So and So.
(06:09):
I got a you know, we got a complaint and
I have to talk to you about it, and would
you do me a favor and not carry your firearm
in the class? And I went, with respect, my friend,
I am going to continue to carry my firearm in class.
And he said, can you at least cover it up?
And I said nope. First off, I mean, you know,
(06:30):
with respect, you can't make me because I am a
by god deputy sheriff. And the policy Sheriff's office says
you shall carry a firearm at all times. And he goes,
you sure that's a policy. I said, well, I helped
the sheriff write it, and you know, I teach it
pretty I was in the meetings when we changed that
(06:53):
policy at the time. I don't know what it says anymore,
and I don't care. It's that's up to them. But
I said, I said, you feel free to call Larry
Campbell and talk to him. And he goes, I don't
think that'll be necessary. And I said, here's the thing.
If I anybody that comes into that class to shoot
up that classroom is probably gonna know who's in there.
(07:13):
And if I'm in there, they're gonna I am, and
I'm the first one to get shot.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I'm only that you're wearing a uniform, although it not
a typical.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It's got a badge brod on the shirt or whatever
the case is.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You're wearing a Hey, I'm a cop.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, I said it. And it being visible, it is
a visible deterrent to that. And I said, so no,
I'm going to carry And if it makes somebody that uncomfortable,
then they need to take a different class, because I'm
paying for my tuition just like they are. And and
I kind I kind of know who it was because
it was somebody said something and he can pack his
(07:47):
bag and go back to his country because right here.
And it wasn't the free state of Florida then like
it is now. And so I went and talked with U.
And I had a few classes left, and at the
beginning of each class, I'd go to the professor teaching
the class and I go, hey, you know, just to
let you know, this is a deal that has made
some people uncomfortable in the past, but in that class
it came up and I said, listen, I just want
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to bring this up. Somebody in here complaint and I
want you to know I'm not I'm I'm good. I'm
here to protect you and protect myself. And there was
a guy that showed up in a military uniform every
class he was He was in the military reserves, and
he was had rank and he was going there and
getting his degree too. In the night program we were
(08:31):
in and he said, well, I want to thank Sergeant
Strickland for coming here with this gun on, because I
have to wear a uniform every day because I leave
the and I come here in uniform, and I'm the
first one to get shot when somebody walks in the door.
And I don't want he said, having someone in here
that can protect me makes me feel better because I
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don't have a choice. I cannot carry and I have
to wear this uniform. And so well in the in
the we always sat next each other. After that, I can.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Tell you this. When I used to teach night school
at TCC, and I guess call it Florida State College
and Tallahasse County State College. Okay, I had a female
police officer as one of my students, and she was
pretty good looking too.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Has nothing to do with the story.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
It made me feel out there. She was, she knows
who she is, and she she wore a uniform carried gun.
I always felt pretty safe having.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Her in there, as you should. But I think we'd all,
most of us would feel safe for if we knew
that the law could be changed where responsible adults twenty
one or older under Florida current law could in fact
carry a fire them into a campus facility lawfully to
protect themselves with people around them. We'll be back in
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And we're back. So when we left, we were talking
about campus carry and things of that nature and gun
free zones and.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, you have a point. Yeah, if you look back
at the history of of whatever we whatever we're calling
this today, I still call it mass murder. Uh you know,
active shooter response, active shooter stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You know, I think the politically correct term now that
people are using their teaching classes is active assailant. Okay,
so okay.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, so so so when you have when you have
when you have these nut jobs that get a gun
and go and try to stack a body count and
get a body count as high as they can, And
that's really what it's that's really what their goal is.
To to die in infamy and to say that we
all remember their name. That's generally what their goal. Is.
(11:41):
You do have some that are out there on a limb.
That are some that are doing it for political or
religious reasons. You have it, But for the most part,
it's somebody with something wrong with them that just just
want to go kill a bunch of people. They generally speaking,
not even generally speaking, at a vast majority of the time,
they choose gun free zones or events or places where
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there is a low likelihood of the average armed citizen
intervening in their in their plan.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I can't think of one where there has.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
A couple of parades and stuff like that. You've had some,
but the vast majority of there's a reason they pick schools.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, they never picked police stations or gun stores.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Or yeah, exactly, they pick schools, or they pick movie theaters.
In the movie theaters where you have this, uh you
know the big signs that don't bring your gun in here,
that that are that are not worth the paper they're
printed on in Florida, but in some states those signs
do carry weights, you know. So you have these these
things where they are expecting themselves to be the only
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one with a firearm.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Or like in Vegas, they get so far away nobody
can shoot back right, or they drive a big vehicle
through a few or something, no one, Eventually they're gonna
probably get shot, but they're they're not going to pick
a fair fight.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Right, they won't. They want easy target so they can
get the numbers up. And that's just generally speaking, you
know it kind of the big event, the pivotal event
in this country was the Columbine shooting. And you know
that we were as law enforcement, we were totally unprepared
and un you know, ready for that. There was a
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there was an event a long time ago at was
it Texas A and M or University of Texas, the
Bell Tower, the.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Guy that went up in the belt nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, sixty six was kind of like the first Yeah,
late sixties.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
October of nineteen sixty six, the month and the year
I was born.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So you had you had that event, You had a sparse,
sporadic events. Now it's becoming all too common because one
media coverage too. You know, they're like I said, there,
somebody's looking to do better than the last one. Uh.
The few times they have tried it in public areas
that were just general public areas that weren't parades, whatever else.
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The most recent one I can think of is a
guy tried it in a mall some where.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
He got shot.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
He got shot real quick by some some smoke that
was out there eating a sandwich at the food court
and intervened and stopped it before it really got started,
and everybody forgot about it in a big hurry. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
And that guy he had done he could have been
a guy that came out here, took Charlie's class, that's
the training he had, yep.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
And he just average joe, not even really a competitive shooter,
and did incredible work and stopped this bad guy that
could have racked up this giant body count. And it
stopped it virtually immediately, and the death toll was so low,
and the event was such a non it was it
was famous in our circles for a little bit of
time because we were cheering on the good guy that
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stopped the bad guy with a gun.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah. The one the one exception I can think of
would have been when the Sutherland Spring shooting at church,
right at church, because they had armed people every day
in that church just that day. None of them had
gone to church. That guy was familiar with the congregation
and he went there looking for the ex girlfriend X
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wife's mother in law, something like that, and ultimately he
walked into a church full of unarmed people. That day,
there was somebody on moments away going to come to
church that would have had a gun. And then you know,
our friend went in and intervened with his AR fifteen.
But that's the only one I can think of where
there was a strong likelihood that it would have been
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a fight with some armed people. But the fact is
is you have to look at the general trend, and
the trend is where are they shooting folks that's in
gun free zones? And so how do we combat that. Well,
you can get into the mental health care, you can
get into the gun you can get all the laws
and all the things. None of that matters. What matters
is how hard is the target? And the target gets
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a lot harder whenever the target can fight back. And
if you can.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, and you know, and I know that their their
heart's probably not in the wrong place. But you see,
you see these protests and Mark so we've had in
Tallahassee in the last week where they're they're they're just
we got to do something about the guns. Do something
about the guns. Do something about the guns. And it's
so illogical to me because the first thing I think, Okay,
(16:14):
let's let's pass a bunch of gun laws right now.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
But but if we did pass a bunch of more
strict gun laws than we have right now. Okay, the
bad guy, so let's say the bad guy that committed
committed to murders, uh also broke a bunch of gun
laws doing what he did.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Exactly, what if you're.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Willing to commit the most heinous crime in our society,
which is homicide, If you're willing to commit a murder,
you are most assuredly willing to violate the trespassing with
the gun laws, the carry unlawful carry laws, the whatever
magazine capacity laws that some states have. You got all
these other uh whatever you call those secondary charges. Sure,
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legal term for that, and I'll let you go with that.
But they're willing to commit murder, folks, they're willing to
break all the other laws too.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Well, that's exactly what I told my secretary when news
broke that this was going down. That can't be true.
There's a law prohibiting guns on campus, and you know
that that's the sarcastic. But the point is they don't
care about those laws.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
They don't care about any laws. Now if they're willing
to break the worst one of all, I mean, they
certainly don't care about the other ones.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Well, after the after the shooting in South Florida here
years ago, Governor Scott then at the time, signed legislation.
Then our legislature passed restricting sales to people under the
age of handguns sale or any guns any days of
twenty one. They've banned certain I think what was it?
(17:52):
Was it triggers.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, well, that bump stock and the force reset trigger
all that. That was a different That was a difference
statute the but it was something three. The three day
weight on all guns in Florida was part of the
Marjorie Stoneman Douglas Act. The prohibited sales to anyone under
twenty one was part of the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas Act.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Had zero effect on anything, has not stopped anything. Arguably.
I would just show me where it would have made
a difference. Yeah, and we're in this state, in the
free State of Florida, where we're supposed to be setting
examples for the rest of the country. Most states concealed
carry laws were based off of Florida's law.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
And the overwhelming vast majority of guns used in crimes
from coast to coast any states you want to look
at any crime you want, the vast majority the guns
were obtained unlawfully in some fashion or another. Sure, whether
by somebody buying it and lying on their back light,
lying on their forty four to seventy three, you know
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they stealing The biggest one is stealing them or taking
them without permission. That is the big a number one.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
But yet they're a gun stolen in the Tallahassee Leon
County area almost daily out of vehicles around here. You're
telling me, you're telling me that changing the law to
restrict LA difference. Yeah, I mean, you're gonna you're gonna
take away rights and you make it eat more you
can eat for law of abiding people with a fact.
I mean, listen, if you're leaving your gun in your
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vehicle in a neighborhood at night, you're just contributing to
the problem. Don't do that. I mean, I don't care
if you lock it or you don't like it or whatever.
And there's this move all the time from the Sheriff's office,
police apartment, you know, lock up to Lincoln sharfsofe your
nine pm routine is make sure your vehicles locked. You know,
security firearms, do all that kind of stuff, and that's
(19:40):
all good. And as responsible law abiding gun on er,
you should not be leaving crap outside where people can
steal it. I mean that's like leaving your rifle and
your gun racking the truck and not locking your door.
And then you want to know why they stole it
and why it was used in a crime. Well, you're
contributing to the problem, not the solution. And it is
also making it more likely that somewhere along the line
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they're gonna pass more legislation to try to keep reasonable,
law abiding people from doing things that are careless and
make it harder on all of us. And it's not
that it's gonna make a difference because you're still gonna
do it. You're still gonna do it. You're just gonna
be able to be charged criminally then because they passed
the law because you wouldn't act right. So y'all act
right and do the right thing. Now, I'm gonna say,
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there's not guns in my vehicles at night, but I
live in the middle of hunters and acres out in
the middle of nowhere, and if you come on my property,
there's gonna be a dog barking, you might get attacked
by a turkey. You know, there's and and the lights
are gonna come on and and the video camera is
gonna come on and you're probably gonna be looking down
the barrel in one of my guns. But that said,
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you know, you gotta think.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
About there's devices and boxes and things you can put
in your car to make it more secure if you
feel the need to leave a gun in your car.
They make gun safes that go in the center consoles
or in the you know, under the seat, and then
you can lock.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Them down right out there.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
They make it more more difficult for the gun to
be stolen. And yeah, I mean, and it is careless
and but but it's also not criminal on the gun
owners behalf. It's just not smart right now, right now.
And but every time this happens, you're gonna have the
cry or we got a pass. And that's that's not
just guns, that's that's everything in our society. When something
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goes sideways, half the half the population. And I'm not
saying which half. It's just half the population is gonna
stand up and we gotta pass a law. You know,
one one side of the other. We gotta we gotta
pass a law.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
We're gonna we're gonna legislate this world back into common sense.
And and.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
No, you can't. That's exactly right, and it's the immoral
people are going to do immoral things.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Let me had one thing that I think is pertin
this conversation. If you find a gun that's abandoned property,
if it dovetails on what you said stealing or taking
without permission, there's no difference under Florida law. If you
find that gun, you have a duty to report it
to law enforcement by Florida law, and it's not you
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don't just appropriate. If you're walking around the woods in
the middle of the National Forest you find a firearm,
you have to report that to the jurisdiction that you're in.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
The law enforcement. The phone here a lot, that's what
you need to call law enforcement. There is if you
find it on the side of the road, there's a
good chance that gun was probably used in a crime
and tossed away, and you probably need a report.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
A case full of cash.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
You got to report that too. If it's a dog,
you gotta report.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
You do I report the whole amount, or just you
can call me first.
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was driving through. For those of you aren't paying attention
these days, the farmers are active again up in South Alabama,
North Florida, and South Georgia. And you'd better not be
looking at the phone because you will drive right up
on the rear end of a rather large piece of
equipment and almost got me twice in last week. So
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y'all pay attention. And to get my farming friends out there.
The tesla that drives itself to keep you alive. Well,
the car that I got, my truck and my car
that I drive both will scream at you when you
hit something. And I got screamed at and my wife
wasn't even in the vehicle. It's like, you know, you
need to pay attention. So and to my farming friends
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out there. We look back every once in a while, man,
do just look behind you. I mean, I know that
stuff's big and you're doing the best you can to
get from from the back forty to mister Jones is
one hundred and twenty over there. I've been there, done that,
grew up doing that. But look back and if there's
more than like eight or ten cars that have been
behind you for the last seven miles. Just pull off.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Just pull off and let them go around. I mean
I used to do that. I remember when I was
talking no formati day because I went up to I
went up to Pavot. When anybody in this area knows
what's in Pavo. There's a business up there where you
can go get used tractor parks. And I went up
there and I bought this week and this week I
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bought a I've been tractor shopping because I needed something
with hay fork's on the front, and I went up
there and bought a They made the forty forty. I
have a forty four forty at the house I'm working on.
It was Daddy's Tractors. But they had a there's a
fellow up there bought this forty forty when it was
two years old. Now they made this tractor from nineteen
seventy eight to nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
I think, is that that tractor you talked about when
you called me the other day.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I had no idea. Did I talk to you the
other day?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, you said you had to go buy a tractor.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Probably was because this is the one I bought. I
did go look at another one. But anyway, long story short,
I'm talking this guy and we were discussing when people
went from four row equipment to six row equipment. Now
it all folds up, and I said, yeah, I remember
when when we went from like an eight foot to
a ten foot. Daddy bought a fourteen foot disc and
(26:04):
I I had to fix every mailbox between our house
and four End Store on seventy three South because we
farmed all over the place. Daddy would go find five acres,
ten acres, forty acres, whatever he could and go out,
we're gonna farm, you know, Miss so and so's Miss
Maddie's field this year. And we got Miss SD's place
up there, and blah blah blah blah blah. I still
(26:25):
see those fields a day, and some of them are
housing developments, and some of them are still being farmed
and houses torn down. People gone passed on. But I
go down that road, and back then, the roads weren't
as white as they are, and the equipment got bigger
and the roads wasn't growing with the equipment, and usual
there was one road over Dry Creek that I would get.
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I had a ten sixty six International harvester with a
real heavy duty disc behind it, and the disc only
had about eight inches on either side to get across
this state highway bridge, and I'd have to get a
run in store art and to look around the curve,
make sure what nobody coming, and I'd hit that thing
in a dead run and hope nobody met me head on.
(27:07):
But you know, yeah, my brothers and sisters in farming,
please man, just look back because that gets that gets uh,
it gets a little frustrating sometimes. Now we all expect
to wait. I mean, we got to wake because agriculture
is in the South, one of the most important industries,
if not the most important industry.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
But they all like to eat.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
So yeah, yeah, I fully I support you, I respect you.
But y'all be careful out there and be patient because
these farmers they are having I mean, they don't want
to stop and build that mailbox back and be able
to get your mailboxes off the side of the road.
Move it over there a few feet. I mean, you
ought to have enough room to be able to pull over,
and the mailman ought to be able to get off
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the side of the road and put your move move
a few feet over and that will help out the
whole thing, so we all share responsibility. That's my public
service announcement for everybody's safety. When we come back, we're
gonna talk more about guns and fun stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
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and audience one more time and let them remind them
about the sig shoots competition down here.
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Cover get a lot of hues to come hunting see.
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Them, and yeah, and just plinking. You don't have to
go to the four hundred and fight. Everybody's shooting for undred.
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you see this picture daty?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah? I was trying to figure out they're trying to
hide the paper powel rollers.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
So that's a that's a. I was at Befo Brady's
in Marianna eating last night, and this caught me several
It's got me several times. I go in there and
I go to wash my hands and don't I don't
see the soap, and then you know, and then I
see it, and then I turn around and need a
paper towel, and they have They have a cameo patterns.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
It's like a real tree or.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Real tree cameo wrapped the soap dispenser and the paper
towel dispenser. And for a second it gets you because
they've got this marble background by air and it blends
in and I post it on Facebook, save it on
paper tiles. Well, here's here's my post on Facebook. I
posted and what I said was was in quotation marks.
(30:34):
Hey boss, good news. Our paper towels usage in the
bathroom is going way down since we camouflage a dispenser.
Only problem is nobody's using soap. And right behind it
there's a camouflage soap dispenser. And I know the owner there,
and I know he probably didn't think about it that way.
But it's funny. It's funny to me. It's you know,
you think about the things you don't notice, and you
(30:56):
can't make stuff harder. For me to see because I
won't notice.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
So what you saying. What you're saying is they need
to wrap it in blaze orange so it jumps out
at you so you know that there's nothing.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
And somebody right here said, uh, said Matt Matthew Shot
said solid point that maybe it needs a little orange
vest for better visibility. See you and Matt Shot, I
had the same thought. Is that scary or what? Hey?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
That probably increases you wait time for the employees to
come wash your hands.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Well, I mean we were waited on by the sheriff's daughter,
so I mean it's it's uh, it was just pretty pretty.
Uh the small town stuff, man, I mean, you know
you and that's what it should have been. I think
I might have tag hashtag. You might be a Riddeneck
looking at the camouflage dispensers. We need to do that, Nicet.
(31:47):
Just you know, I got nothing better to do. Go
in there and just wrapped the paper Tael dispenser camouflage.
Lord knows, I got nothing else going on.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I think we need to paint a bulls eye on
that thing on the urally there because they get some
more on. There's more on the floor. Most of the time,
and I don't know what it is with that.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
It's like, come on, glad, we got people to clean
this bathroom.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I am too.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Right before the show, I went in there, I washed
my hands and I reached over to our non camouflage
paper title dispensary, and we didn't have any paper to
I was in.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Speaking of cleaning, Speaking of cleaning, did you notice the
double doors going into the going into the back area
back there, the workshop and the storage room and all
that stuff where we work back there.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Man, I'm walked in here, walked in the studio. Ain't
looked when you got final cleaning after five years.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
When we get yeah, yeah, and that all that that
build up.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Of black grime on crime on the door.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Let me tell you that taaling Gungjese, I sprayed that
stuff on there, took old gold, took a I'm surprised.
Cleaned up so good man. I cleaned. That's why my
hands are so dirty air all time. I clean guns.
Every day I cleaned somebody's gun. They willing to pay
me to do it.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Well, I mean, we we got a parts clean in
there now. Matt snatched to dad gun Foster off the
wall yesterday and couldn't flush a toilet for a whole day,
Matt said. Matt said, ouse turning it off and it broke. Yeah,
I got a real story. I got a real story
on that one.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Christened Dimedy Mouse said yeah, he was snatching on the
hose and trying to.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Get I said something about taking it out of his paycheck.
You know, he's doing these Pokeyman's cards and stuff. He's
selling the Pokemon cards on on on the internet. And
I said something about that that repair bill coming out
of his paycheck. And he asked me if if I
wanted a cash or or or shiny shiny cardboard, and
he goes, I got a four hundred dollars a Pokemon card,
(33:39):
I'll give you for it. And I was like, I
know from you only want cash because you're probably printing
that up at the house.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I want, I want hard silvery. He handed me a
plastic card holder with some cheese or on or cheese litter,
this pokeymon car and one of those cards, and he goes,
give that to give that. CJ and I took get home.
When I'm like okay, I handed CJ and I said, hey, Matt,
(34:06):
I said, get this to you. And he turned it
over and saw what it was, I mean, and his
jaw dropped and he's like, really, really it's mine. I said, yeah,
he this is so cool.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Well, Matt tried to give me I'm giving.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Him guns before in his name, and he's like a
piece of side of cardboards like, oh man, this is this?
Do you know what this is? And I want, I
don't care. Well, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
You know, it's it's basically Fred, it's a well, you know,
I go back, I go back to my brother in
law that it is a big time baseball baseball card,
sports member, memorabilia collector guy and and you know, kind
of has him a little side gig and doing all that,
and you would be shocked. I know, I'm shocked at
(34:55):
what baseball cards. Well, this is the same thing for
a different generation. Nobody cares about baseball cards anymore.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
That is not a real person. That's not it's a
it's a it's a made up looking cartoon dude with
spiky hair.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
It's still it's still shiny. It's shiny cardboard anyway you
look at it. I know, but it's a we don't
have to understand everything that the young.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Hold on Now these people don't what are those guns?
You always playing with it? This is worth this, This
is worth that. They don't even work like new ones do.
Why why are they worth so much money?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Because you're good? Because they're guns, they're wood, they're blue,
and they're it took an artist artists to make.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
And it's not.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Took it took some AI artists some something to make
those dead gun gun.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, it's it's just it's not even artwork. It looks
like a Hunter Biden pain.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
It's it's it's cartoon characters.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, I mean, well I don't get the old I mean,
you know, you look at classical art and I look
at it and I go, okay, why would you spend
millions upon millions of dollars?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I guess it's I mean like a Mona Lisa, I
mean something like that. That's that's a that's a work
of art. But this is a mass printed Japanese.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
So here's so here's how there's here's how Matt explained
it to me. Was in his generation, okay, which is
between us and anybody that sees this crap on TikTok
or Instagram. Those those kids that don't get.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Its millennials and those gen zs and millennium, so in
in Maths generation, they grew up where the Pokemon cards
and Pokemon was a big.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Deal, and a lot and a lot of them didn't
have a lot of the money to invest in the
cards and they and they may have lost collections. And
now they're looking back and they have money and resources
and time, and they want to relive that that's something
that they grew up with. And so now there are
there collectors in every generation. People in our generation by
(36:48):
antiques and guns and different things. But he said there's
a market, and it's not ninety percent of them. It's
a fraction of them, like anything else. And so they
look at it as a way to go back and
relift some of their youth and have the really cool
stuff that they didn't necessarily have the opportunity to get.
Now they've got the money to go buy the card
(37:09):
they were chasing. They were going buying these packs. They
open these packs and they and they go through the
cards and they find the one that wanted. They've been
chasing this card for a while. Now they see it
on the internet and a guy says, you can buy
this card for nineteen ninety nine. Here it is, and
they'll sit there and I watch this stuff sometimes and
I don't even know. I don't get one. I mean
to me, it's not that I don't get it, but
(37:31):
I do get it because so I look at old
toys that I grew up with. You know, if you
get me a stretch Armstrong or something like that and
knew in the box, I would go, that's cool, that
is cool. What's cool to us, but it's not cool
to them. That what the Mind's not cool to us,
but it is cool to them. And so it's a generation.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
The man thing came out. I was.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Listen here, listen here, listen, listen here, unc.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I can't hear TikTok now, old head, old head getting
all mad about Pokemon.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
It should have been illegal when it started.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
It was just here we go again.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I never understand. I mean, you get these weirdos running
around her orange chair, run around the park looking for
some kind of electronic signal, and you know, now they're
getting all nostalgic about it because they find it on eBay.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Well remember Pokemon Go when everybody was running around.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Run over by cars because they're chasing a.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
People in the middle of the road.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
You know, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
I'm looking for Pokemon.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well, it was hard to establish probable calls on some
people when we were on patrol back in the day.
They were playing Pokemon. What are they doing? I ain't.
They're trying to capture something, something out.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
There, and I don't even know how you captured.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I installed that on my phone for a while just
so I could see what they were doing. And you
be running along and just out of random, you know,
you look over there and you hold your phone up.
I forget how it worked now, and I'm like, I
don't really get the whole The people are going places.
It's almost like geocashing, where you know, you have some
GPS points to go to and you go there and
you leave something to pick something up. I never really
(39:11):
got that either, But it's kind of cool in a way.
You don't want me involved in that because I was
gonna find somewhere to put it where couldn't nobody to
get to it. It's at the top of that telephone.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
I mean, you don't get money, you don't, there's nothing.
It's a waste of time.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
But for the people that it has value to. As
a lot of that to them, they will spend money
on it. We'll be right.
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If I wanted to get the nicest bass rig riding
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Speaker 1 (41:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
For the real be a shamana karta karate sarata spelled.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
Ceu are a d o.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I think that's close.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Shamana karatas karate karate. Okay, that's a very good rod,
I mean, real, very real bait caster reel. For a
spinning reel, it would be a Shamano strip, not a Stella.
I was just that would be the one that's a
little bit better. Now, Yeah, they just come out a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
There.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
That's very nice and Stella's that I think for they're
very nice reels. I have four stratis and those are
they definitely cast further. I haven't got a Stella yet,
but that is.
Speaker 6 (42:19):
A very good reel.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Okay, Now that's for that's that's for spinding, that's for spinning.
They're good for salt water too, By the way.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
You can. I'll just make sure you clean them.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Yeah, very well, they're sealed.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I mean that's right, but still you need to if
you take it anytime salt water, you need to really
clean it for sure.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Well you use your what do you call that stuff?
The spray.
Speaker 6 (42:40):
Yeah, we've had to try this on the rod.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
You know.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
I hadn't thought about that. So that's that's my question
about the reel. What about the ride? What what is
we're talking like the best ride.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
You could get, you know, g Loomis is. They're very
good rod.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Now they carry a lifetime warranty, Yes they do, and
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Speaker 6 (43:02):
They got they got different levels. But their top of
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Speaker 4 (43:06):
It's very nice cast.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
That's right. They have spinning reels too. They're spinning rods too.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Absolutely, I'm talking about bass. We're not talking about red fish.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
You fish for you fish for bass with spinning riggs.
If you're throwing light baked little ned riggs or something.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
I'm talking about bake cast.
Speaker 6 (43:22):
What you're about you all right?
Speaker 4 (43:25):
All right? So the g Loomits be like the top
line what is like a very good quality for the
money rod that you know you're on a budget and
you want to but you want a good ride's gonna
last you a long long time.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I would look at either a T f O Timble
Fork Outfitters rod.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
I make a very they make a very good rod.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I've actually had some some seven foot spinning rods I've
used for I guess the last ever since you got
them JD here about five years ago.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
And we don't sell we don't. We got a few left,
but we're we're out of the fishing tackle business here.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
For the most part.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
They're really good, very good.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
The TFO, yeah, very good.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
They're they're made in Korea.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I just saw a thing that's in they're going to
with the tear stuff going on, the prices could be increasing,
but they haven't yet.
Speaker 6 (44:11):
But very good rod.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
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made in Korea.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
Yes, Korea, okay, so light and Hina too.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
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the top of line, what's mid level?
Speaker 6 (44:25):
Mid level would be? Uh for you? I would definitely
say the strata for a mid.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Level No, no, not not the real the right the.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Rod, I would They now got TFO timber fork outfit.
They're about one hundred and forty to one hundred and sixty
dollars rod. They've got two hundred and fifty three hundred
dollars rods. They're going to be lighter. Okay, you when
you go up to the more expensive rods, that the
lighter they become.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
And is that an advantage for bass fishing to have
a lighter Actually, if you're.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
Doing something light, you can it's a lot more sensitive.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
But I've learned things you can do to add some
weight to the to the butt and you can make
a hundred dollars rod for like a three hundred one. Really, yes,
it makes a big difference.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Just adding way to the butt of it.
Speaker 6 (45:04):
Adding weight to the butt of it.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
All I do is take or you can go to
you can go to gym next door. The customer rod
made like you want it, and you're not talking about
a huge difference in price.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
He makes really not very good rod that that's the
one I've got for the shell cracker.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
I've used it speaking of you just so this guying.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
So we do have a custom rod, yes, the building
here in the building with us in midway in tah.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
And he'll make something exact to your specifications, what.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
You're telling, what you're gonna do with it, and he
can make you the right from from Yeah, it's bink.
He does the type of handles you want, all that
and everything.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Let me ask this. I've got a couple of rods
that tips broke off the fix that absolutely they don't
make the rod anymore.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
Don't matter, you can fix it ring ring them next.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Don't matter what does all right.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
So this guy, Paul, the guy down there, calls me yesterday,
this is the day, this is Thursday, calls me Thursday afternoon.
He says, what you doing in the morning. I was like,
I'm going to work. You think you can get off work?
And I'm like, I just got it.
Speaker 6 (46:11):
For a couple of hours. I know, but I just
get down here.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
I had too much on my plate, things I had
to get done today. He goes and finds a shell
cracker bed and and and calls me, you know, hey,
So I guarantee you he has been before this ship,
before were recording the show this Friday morning. I guarantee
you he was sitting on a shell cracker bed and
Charlie here.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
And on the phone on a show cracker bed this.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
Morning, Yes, sir, an hour four daylight.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
I went my minute where he said, sign this boat
leaving at five. So I had to follow him in mind.
And I get down there and I'm running lights, you know,
so I can see.
Speaker 6 (46:45):
That's exactly what.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Itbody a lot more colorful language than that, and I
was like, I was just seeing where I was going.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
He said, everybody, and where we're going.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
Everybody, No where're going to see where? I was like, yes, sir,
I just I just turned the lights off.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
I just I knew exactly where. Don't you let nobody
see us. We got up in here and we got
to get on this. We don't have forty seven boats
part around us.
Speaker 6 (47:03):
That's exactly was you there?
Speaker 3 (47:05):
I know, But I just I was in spirit, Yes,
in spirit, I was with you this morning, sir.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
I just talked to my buddy West. It's gotten a
fella from Tennessee, Aaron, Tennessee. He's come down, come down
last night, staying with us. And and I think when
I last time I talked to him there at seventy four,
So they get it.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
They have a little fifty per person.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
Man now air in Tennessee is a is a very small.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yes, he said, it's a small little play.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
We had some friends overall, We had some family friends
that moved from Chattahoochee to Aaron, Tennessee. Really and the
first time I ever fished Kentucky Lake was with Joe Meacham.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
He passed on Yeah, he says, right now Kentucky Lake.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
But uh, yeah, we when I was a kid went
up there in fish Kentucky Lake. Me and my granddaddy
and Joe, And uh.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
That's for they fish jump out of the lake and
hit you in ahead when you're riding your boat.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Now they were, Now they did those those cart Wasn't
there a kid? Yeah, that's bullheads or big head carp
or whatever they are. Uh yeah, I don't know what
they eat, but I can tell you there's places in
along the Mississippi River we used to hunt. I hunted
up near north of Vicksburg for years and years and years.
(48:16):
And uh, did I tell you Jerry passed away. Jerry Johnson,
the guy that we duck honey with out there for
years and years and years passed away. But anyway, first
time I went in one of those lakes and I
have a surface drive had a surface drive motor at
the time, and I'm running across that thing and all
of a sudden, what And I'm like, what in the
word it is cold? I know it wasn't gator. I mean,
it's like I hit something. It was one of them
(48:38):
carp jumping out of the water and hitting the side
of the boat. And I had my headlamp on, driving
the boat with my head lamp, and I turned around
and looked behind me and them. Things were jumping all
out of the water, and I almost considered just foregoing
the duck hunting and jump shooting some carp. I mean,
I thought that would have been verbe funny right around
(48:59):
with the shot gun and you know, get somebody to
drive the boat and you shoot them when they jump
out of the back. That's they're a good deed. I'd
probably try that.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
I hear they've been harvested them up there trying. There's
such a to do what with it.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
They're turning them into dog food, they're trying to make
an industry cat food.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Whatever they're doing.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
It's ruined up.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
It's it's a I've I've heard it can be made edible.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
They say that those snakeheads that are also an invasive
snakehead fish that look looks a lot like what we
call a mudfish, but it ain't the same thing. They've
got spots on them like a pup, looks a lot
like a bow end mudfish whatever, like a prehistory prehistory.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
You s a bowfen out into a mud puddle and
it'll dry up and he'll crawl back to the water.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
But the snakeheads will too. And the snakeheads are an
invasive in South Florida of the big time. But they've
they're finding them all over the US, up and down
and there they are a super predator there a lake. Yeah.
Well they say that they are delicious to eat, and
yeah they were. I read an article they were talking
about the top five invasive species for for the table
(50:08):
fair and they were talking about nutrient, which I've heard
is good. The nutrient is really a delicate, mild flavored
meat like a rabbit. Uh. The iguana, the green iguana,
which I still want to go do that and iguana
hunt that trip. Yeah, and uh, but the snakeheads and
the carp those carp the snakehead fish. And then wild hogs,
(50:29):
because wild hog is as good of eating as you're
going to get.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
But yeah, I'm having the turkeys. I'm watching them on
my home security camera having turkey dripping. I'm talking about fishing.
I got I got turkey exagching.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Sorry sorry to bore you, Charlie.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
But actually had a turkey laying on his stomach, you know, sitting.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
In I am. I am taming these chicks so they
will like me unlike their father. That Hey, Jacob, the
turkey may not be long for this world because he
got after my wife the other day, the only person
in the whole family that can pick him up.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Can You wouldn't get You come over to.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
That you were gonna get the pen with him, and
you didn't get.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I changed my mind, yeah, but only because I didn't
want to kill your turkey in front of you.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
That's the only reason I straightened him out. Anyway. We'll
see y'all all y'all turkeys next week.
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