May 10, 2025 • 51 mins
In today's episode, the Talon guys discuss the various ways trespassing laws while hunting are handled in various states, they talk about the National Firearms Act and its additions and what it means for us now. Fred also shares another llama story of us (hard to believe he has more).
Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit their main site.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And welcome to the Town out Door Show. I'm Charlie,
I'm JD.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Come Fred, Paul Tarr, and I'm Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
All right, that was the show. Next before we started
rolling the microphones was like, what are we gonna talk about? Well,
we had a ten minute conversation here y'all talking about
boats and a secret fishing spot which I'm going to
announce a just out of spite, I'm gonna give away
you secret fishing places. All you and all you have
(00:32):
to do there is subscribe to a little known concept
known as trespassing. I mean, it's as old as time.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It is crazy what people will do. My uncle used
to have a little private pond over near Chattahoochee, way
off in the woods, and we would go down there,
and this is in the middle of nowhere, and somehow
another it got found by people that lived in the area.
I don't know how, but people going there and we'd
(01:03):
find remnants of people that going there and leaving their bait,
leaving their baby, trash around, yeah, leaving trash and stuff
and going in there and fishing in my uncle's pond
on his property in the middle of I mean, way
out away from everything.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Charlie with security plantation. You don't have much problems with
people are breaking in places to fish.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, Actually there was one up in northeast Leon County
where we had a guy had neighborhood reports a young
man getting on a bicycle these thug but his samdyle
on the back was stolen. We stole his back through
it in a dumpster. So he was going on to
one of our client's properties, climbing a fence, going in
(01:45):
there and fishing and catching bass out of the pond
and then going down and selling them to the neighbors.
And we got wind of it, and one of my
guys went out there and found a bicycle and he
ran from him. So we took his bicycle in his
fishing poles and threw him in a dumpster way away.
And you know, we call law enforcement obvious adden they said, well,
that's abandoned property. Can sit right there. Oh, if it's
(02:07):
abandoned property. That's the same thing we do with homeless
people on properties when we tell people to leave, tell
people leave. When we run these strip malls and properties
that we patrol, and the police they got to be
you know, professional and polite and above board and you know.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Turn it in with their property receipt with a.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Property See we we you leave a shopping cart full
of crap on one of our properties, and we know
we've told you to leave, and I can't find you
to get you to leave. My guys are strict instructions
to take that shopping cart full of stuff, put it
in the dumpster, and then roll the shopping cart back
to whatever local business as close as we can that
it was stolen from, because it's stolen property. It's you
(02:44):
can't take a shopping cart away.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You know how much? I don't. I don't know what
they cost now, but we used to deal with that
a lot of time here in town. Those shopping carts
were like five hundred dollars a piece. They were over
they were over the well. Back then fellony fell on
ey theft was three hundred dollars or more. I don't
know what it is now.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I think it still is. With the fact that you
can get those things. There's seven they reached.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
They reached. I know at the time I worked at
FSU Police Department. When I worked there, the years i
worked there, it was it was past the threshold of
felony theft, so it was over three hundred dollars. I
think they're probably up like five.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I have gone to several businesses before. They were cleaning
out a trailer park that had been abandoned for a while,
and believe it or not, there was a bunch of
shopping cars there and they had dumped them off the
property onto one of my client's properties. And I didn't
want a homeless people going there and getting them and
using them. So I went around all the local businesses
and made phone calls and visited. And one was Public's,
(03:41):
one was Walmart. One was you know, the people to
have shopping carts and big lots, and there was a
big lots on the property and they got theirs, and
the Public sent somebody over there to get theirs, and
Walmart didn't give two craps about theirs, and and you know, so, yeah,
but we have our whole company now, not locally but
(04:05):
to some degree, but up in on the larger properties.
And it's not just plantations. It's farms and homes, and
it's largely based around people trespassing, you know, poaching, trespassing,
and I don't get trespassing. I have a hard I
have a hard time. If I find myself I pull
in the wrong driveway and have to you turn and
get out of there. I feel uncomfortable because I don't
(04:26):
want to be where I don't belong. If I go
on to something, if I go down a dirt road
and there's a field, I'm not going out there. If
I find myself walking like if we shoot, I get
along great with my neighbors, but if we shoot a
deer and it crosses the line, I'm making a phone
call because I just don't feel comfortable. And there's there's
(04:46):
roads right across the dirt road where I live, going
on to a very rather large piece of property. And
those folks are great folks. They've got gates up. But
nephew has the code, and he said, oh yeah, they don't.
You can go down there. And they said, yeah, you
can go to unless you say come on over. I
ain't going because I just don't feel I don't want
to have I feel like I have to justify why
(05:07):
I'm somewhere I don't belong now by the same token,
if I catch you dumping trash on my property, we're
gonna have a problem.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We're gonna have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We're gonna have a conversation and it ain't gonna be
one you want to have.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I got it where I enjoy watching these uh these
Instagram reels and videos, YouTube videos of the people that
are the guys that are fishing on public water and
they get up around somebody's dock and you get the
mad the mad homeowner, the the carings of the world.
You can't fish there. Uh yeah, Ken, I'm on public water.
I had a guy try to run me off of
(05:40):
public public water one time out in the out in Mississippi,
and I'm on a publicly accessible to the Mississippi River,
and I'm on the Mississippi side. There's different on the
Louisiana side because out there where I used to duck hunt,
it was the line that depends on which the lake
or which side of the water you were on. They
(06:02):
have private property on public water in Louisiana. As crazy
as that sounds, it's French cod and it is. It
is the high water mark and so many feet from
the high water mark and all that.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
You can be.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Ever, you can be out there at a lake and
you think I'm on the lake. I put in at
a public ramp and I didn't get out of the
boat to get where I'm at. And that's kind of
like Florida. That's Florida low. But out there. I taught
to one of the guys from Mississippi, said, you're fine
in Mississippi, he said, but when you cross over to
the other side of Lake show Tard and you're on
the Louisiana side, he said, if you see a posted
(06:39):
sign and there's a half a mile of water on
the other side of it, you better stay out of there.
And I'm like, you got to be kidding me. They
can keep you off of that water, off the land,
under the water, under twenty foot deep water, you know,
the lake when those ox Bow Lakes, when the river floods,
it'll they'll, you know, put twenty foot of water where
there wasn't any water before. But you respect those signs.
(07:01):
I didn't learn it the hard way, but I got
educated by it because.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I can understand the rational, because I mean, like, like,
take take my property that where I live, I mean
I own to the middle of the pond, own the.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Ground, the ground to the middle of the pond.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Now you know, under the ripe Aian right law, then
the neighbor can get in his boat right over my property, right,
and I can't get him for trespassing. Now if he
gets out steps on it, we got a problem, right
even if he's you know, ankle deep in the water,
because he's on my private property. Different when you're talking
about publicly accessible waterways and then you got federal waterways
(07:42):
that are going to overrule whatever state laws in place,
and then you deal with that. So it's complicated issues.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
It's a big issue out west right now with the
hunting and public land and public land hunting out west,
and they have these what they call corner crossings where
you have to cross over a piece of private you know,
you'll have basically four fence lines coming together and the
far fence line of the far far into the of
the property over there is public land, federally owned land
(08:12):
that's publicly accessible for hunting, but you have to cross
over the corner of somebody else's property. I'm talking about
two feet a corner of the property to get to
that public land. And of course the people that own
that those corner properties don't want anybody because that's more
land accessible to them from their property. So they have
always treated that is there is their land, even though
(08:36):
it was federally owned and probably in the end not
pay any taxes on it ain't their property. There was
just a big court ruling out west somewhere about these
corner crossings and how and then I'm reading some articles
the guys were telling you how to legally do that,
and it's basically, you set up a set up a ladder,
(08:56):
go over the fence with a ladder, and get over
onto the public land that you have accessible to one corner,
you know whatever, and you can get from public land
to public land or accessible land to public land. And
what you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Hunt with a ladder for, we're gonna do some trespassing.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
We're gonna do ten seconds, we're going two feet of trust. Well,
those guys would guard those corners to keep people out
of that public land, because that's, like I said, thousands.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Of acres camouflage hunting ladders for sale.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I mean, that's just just I mean, come on, I mean,
because then that guy that you're keeping from doing that,
go get him a drone and be perfectly legal flying
around while trying to hunt, as long as he doesn't
get below a certain I mean, there's there's there's there
are people that will go and set up hunting stands
on public lake bottoms that are own properties, but they're
(09:46):
so below the high water mark, and blah blah blah.
It's just such a you know. But a minute they
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we're back. So we were talking before about trespassing and
things like that. You know, I run into things where
people will put a they'll hunt right on the property line.
I mean, they'll get right on the line. And then
you run into the situation where there's really nowhere for
them to shoot on their side, but there's clear land
on the ny on the property owner I represent over
(11:15):
there that you know, they yeah, there's plenty of but
they'll put their stuff right on the line facing that,
and you know what's going on. It ain't right. So
it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out they're
trying to shoot a deer on your side of the line.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So is that illegal or legal?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, you can't do anything about them having to stand
there then, but then go ahead, mister attorney, Yeah, attorney Conradhead.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Never forget this was one of the first case law
studies and property law and law school. The case is
at an ancient England case out of fifteen hundred something
round Pierson versus Post And there were.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Some fox hunters on it's a Pepe case.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And and they shot a fox and the fox went
across the property line and died on the other side
of the I guess posts is property. I don't know
which one Pierson or post was, but was it posted?
Uh maybe that's where that comes from.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
The Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
But the chance the ruling in the case was where
the noxious beast is as it was referred to in
this this property case, because I remember I had a
kick at that this noxious beast and he's a freaking
red foxman and uh, he died on whatever property the
noxious beast died on. The owner of that property owns
(12:34):
the noxious beast. So you shoot a deer and he
runs over and dies on your neighbor's property, that's your
neighbor's deer.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Which is what keeps me from shooting deer in Claring
Lakes in my front yard because I'm afraid they'd pile
up on the neighbor's front porch and then we'd have
all kinds of problems.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, which is which is why you should.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Try your best to get along with your neighbors, get
along with people that are around you, and don't push
the envelope. So you know, people hunt on.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
A property line that might just be in decent a
decent human and not avoiding all of w Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You gotta understand how many people I grew up in
and they poaching was a business for them. They gonna
find a place, they gonna go set up somewhere and
sneak in the woods and kill a deer and sneak out.
I mean, because they didn't have anywhere they could hunt,
and that's where the big deer were. Now, I'm very
familiar with that concept. I didn't do it because I
wasn't a big hunter growing up, But if I had
been a big hunter growing up, might have been a
(13:22):
different story. So I'm very familiar with trespassing because we
used to run around shine deer at night just for fun,
and we probably in some farmers field. There's all kinds
of stories that I could tell on that. I've told
a few. I'll tell some more later. But when you
know you set up like that, keep in mind it's
legal to put us staying on the line, but it's
not legal to shoot a deer on the other person's property.
(13:43):
In Florida, if you shoot across the property line in
an attempt to take game, it's a felony, all right.
This trespass trespassed by projectile. I think is what they
kind of call it. But there's a statue that specifically
I aimed at that. And so now you if a
bully crosses the line, and it's not as big a
deal with if it's in an attempt to take game.
(14:03):
I mean, but then you got to worry about, Okay, well,
did they know they were trespassing? How did you define
the lines? Was it properly posted? Was did they access
it from a public waterway where they above the high
water market? It just goes on and on. It's really complicated,
but so there are solutions. And what you do is
when somebody's doing that, you go set up game cameras
(14:25):
on your side of the property facing their side of
the property. And if you smart, you get some of
these security cameras that you can talk over and ring
an alarm and it's harassing the hunter, which is not legal.
But then again, what they're doing is not legal, and
I'm you know, if you're going to bend the rules,
bending on behalf of try and enforce the law on
your in your behalf. And so I mean, you set
(14:48):
up a camera, you know that e before daylight and
you've got one of these sailor capable security cameras and
the deer is coming out there and you're sitting there watching.
You can turn the light on, You're shining alight on
your property, right, you can speak through it and go, hey,
how's your hunting and going? You know that kind of thing.
Deer takes off and the next thing, you know, they
find somewhere else to put their tree stand. And then
(15:09):
they probably will call you and you can say, well,
let's come up with a let's come up with a solution.
I've sat through these meetings before where we have discussed
between two neighbors, you know, finding a workable solutions.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Like and they can like look at it across the
property and you could talk to the person on the
other side of the property. Yes, sir, so I'm wondering
some a neighbor's pool. She's pretty attractive.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You're that guy that flies a drone over there and
it causes.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Bad you know. And when Charlie first started getting into
all this stuff and doing the cell cameras and hey
look at this, and you know, taking these cell camera pictures,
I knew where one of them was near near near
a certain part of Lake Ammonia. I knew where one
of them cameras. Absolutely was. I mean I could see
it from the water. And you don't know how much
straint I showed into not going up there and doing
(16:05):
not so nice things.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well, there was, there were some fishing. There were some
there's an area where people fish and they also like
to go up there and get off the boat. Where
they were getting off the boat on private property, and
they were swimming in the lake and where they were
technically was above the high water market. Yeah, and then
they were above the high water mark trespassing. They're not bright,
and they were they were dumping their garbage.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's gonna take care of that anyone.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
They were dumping their garbage in their trash, and they
were building campfires and stuff, and they were doing all
this stuff, and they were setting up swings on and
so it became a liability issue. It became a dumping issue,
it became all this, and so a client hired us
to try to do something about it. So we put
up these big signs and we put up cameras, and
people would literally take a fishing pole with a garbage
bag and drape a garbage bag over the camera way
(16:53):
up a tree so they couldn't. I had three cameras
stolen from a local business in Tallahassee just a couple
of weeks ago. Some to shime it up a phone
I had to put up on the pole with a ladder,
and somebody got up that ladder and took the camera,
the solar panel. They went in a bit and took
all that stuff, and those cameras didn't save to the cloud.
They saved to the camera. I thought they were inaccessible,
(17:14):
but apparently they weren't. So I've gone back and put
them back up again. This time, it's gonna take a
bucket truck.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
I was gonna ask did the ladder? I started to
wrap it. I started to wrap it. I started to
wrap the telephone pole with barbed wire. I thought that
was a little excessive and a little bit of a
liability concern.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
You could get like some ghost pepper sauce and just kind.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Of around, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I happened to have some ghost pepper sauces that I
have not eaten the house that I may go sling
out up here. It's just the thing is is people
go to such and I think it was kids wanting
to tag it with graffiti, because that's really the only
stuff that's happened there, and you know, people get just
don't have anything better to do sometimes than the calls
(17:58):
mischief and lost me by eight hundred dollars. But you know,
in cameras and a lot of aggravation. But the thing
is is there's technology now allows you so many ways
to combat things that are going on. Or you can
go spend forty something thousand dollars and get you one
of those pull behind trailers with the flashy blue blinky
(18:20):
blue lights they like they got it at the coffee
shop by the interstate Marianna. Those trailers are like forty
grand and you know, but you can do the same
thing for a couple hundred bucks.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So and there's this company, there's this company. There's this
company that from cameras to that and I know I've.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Lost blinky Blinky.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
There's this company that will rent or sell you these
trailers where they have multiple video cameras on its solar
power and you go park it in the parking lots
somewhere you'll see it and pay lots and stuff in
South Florida in bigger areas, and they'll have these blue
lights blinking and they've apparently. I don't know they got
somebody watching these things or not, but the but they're
(19:03):
a deterrent and you know it's it's they put one
at a brand new coffee shop between the truck stop
and the coffee shop at the interstate of Marianna. And
now I understand if you've got a construction site, those
things are actually pretty handy.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
There's a lot of stuff looking forward to trying to
keep people out of the truck stop.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Er when they were building the coffee shop and they
finished the coffee shop and everything's still sitting there, and
I got you. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's they're
spending money on. I mean, I liked the business model.
I love the business model. Matter of fact, we offer
that same service by putting cameras out, but we don't know.
(19:38):
They're not that kind of money. That's that's silly, crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But that's kind of a weird story. I mean, of
course it's been a weird week.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, so I heard you had an encounter.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, so walking is it's court on Sanko to Mayo.
You know, I've got tacos on the line.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And that happens on dreaming about your Havannah daydreaming. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, so I'm looking forward a little tequila, a little
bit of beer, some tacos and hot sauce and whatnot,
hallowpenions and come out of court and done for the day.
And you're parking my my my dad's office parking lot
of law firm downtown and it's right across the street
from the courthouse. So like one of the perks of
having your old man in a downtown law firm. And
(20:23):
I get in my truck, I always you know, got
my tie off and everything finished the court for the day,
and I looked to my left and at the bottom
of the hill in the parking lot, there's two lamas.
And I'm like, well, what what is going on here?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
And did you recognize the line?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I didn't recognize that.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
You know, these creatures seem to find that's specific.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
And I'm like, I'm like, what is up here? I mean,
of all people to spot a lama in my history
with lamas is not is not?
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Is not great past episodes folkus.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, and and and they got hats on. There's there's
two lamas. This is in a downtown Tallahassee parking lot.
There are two lamas with hats on them, and I'm like,
what on earth is going on? I mean, but there
(21:21):
was a one of them did have a rope on it,
and I'm looking down there and I'm like, there's two
lamas with hats on it. One of thems got a
rope and there was another another lawyer who was going
into the office, and I said, look, nobody's gonna believe this.
Would you go to a tech picture maybe these two
lamas with hats on He's like, you're going to hold
the rope and I'm like inside, and so I like
(21:50):
at one of lamas, he kind of starts gritting his
teeth and I'm like, and I got to pickture with
the lama and I sent it to you, and then
of course I put it on Facebook, and then I'm
just getting hazed on Facebook. You know, where's the donkey hole?
There he is? Are you the one on the left?
(22:12):
What happen to your hair? I mean? And I'm like
I just can't win for I mean, I just wanted
to document that there was two lamas downtown outside the courthouse.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
So look at that picture of two lamas and the
jackets there.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You Yeah, So I can't tell the backstory because it's
got too much profanity in it. But nevertheless, it's been
a weird week. A weird week, I mean, I don't
will be right back.
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process to it, but can help you outfit an AR
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fifteen so a custom build ar and we have you know,
that stuff for sale all the time, and you go
walk right outside shoot that and we're moving cans, silencers, suppressors,
whatever you want to call them. That in business has
been picking up tremendously.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
What's the average wait time on a silencer these days?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Did he trust or no trust?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
No trust?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
No trust? Individual? It takes longer to get your account
set up and get everything processed on the front end
than it does to get the tax stamp back. So
let's just say week a week probably to get your
account all set up and to get the docu sign
stuff done, back and forth to get set up with
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silencer shops who we use to process the paperwork and
buy the suppressor from or with their stuff. Wait times
right now on tax stamps, we've seen as fast as
twelve hours really, yeah, twelve hours to I would say
seven days on as an individual, I just had one
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come back on a trust, so they're doing multiple background
checks when everybody on the trust. When you do that
process with the trust, I had a trust come back
in twelve days. You know, that's that way faster A
year ago it was it was nine months.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, you contrast that the first silence or I bought
I bought it on the day Joe Biden officially won
the election, and it took thirteen months.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
That was about right.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
That was about right. Twelve eleven to fifteen months was.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Why it takes so long then?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
So quicker now, I think a lot of it is now.
One they're not using the US Postal Service to mail
documents back and forth. Everything's done electronically, so you're saving
a lot of weight time there. And the other one
is I'm pretty sure they're using an electronic algorithm to
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process the background check and all that stuff. So if
they run your name, if this algorithm using the digital
media runs through using digital transfer of data, if it
runs through the algorithm and they don't get any kind
of a hit on your name data, birth SOUBD security number,
whatever biographical information they put in there, and they don't
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get a hit on your fingerprints, on your APHIS number,
so everybody's fingerprints. When you submit your fingerprints for testing,
they assign a numerical value to it. It's just long
string of numbers, right, So if they run those two
sets of data through that algorithm and there's no hits
whatsoever in the Knicks system or in the criminal justice system,
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they just process it right. Then mine have always taken
longer because of them. The how common my name is
with the last name of Johnson and the first name
of John and the middle named David. That's very common
names in the English speaking language. So there, I'm sure
there's lots of John David Johnson's somewhere in the US
that have been in trouble with the law. But they've
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gotten it down to the process where a lot of
the work now is done by a computer as opposed
to a person.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
And it is not a Trump Biden thing, because it
got better under Biden.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
At the tail end of the Biden administration, it was
getting better already. So it's nothing that Trump or anybody's done.
It's just the system has gotten better and the way
they're doing it has gotten more efficient.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Now we can just make all that go away, all right? Yeah, yeah,
that'd be the next step. Can you save you two
hundred bucks a right, We'll be right now.
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So as usual, we roll into the break and we
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talk about really cool stuff. Yeah, we were all now
y'all got to say it all again.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Well on the digest, on the Wiregrass segment, we were
talking about how quick suppressure turnaround time house quick tax
stamps are coming back if you don't have any kind
of criminal history whatever. It's all done with an algorithm
on the computer now and it's coming back there, coming
back super fast. I had a trust, a trust, a
suppressor come back on a trust in twelve days, which
is way faster than I've ever had it before. So,
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but all of this is governed. And everybody says, oh,
I want Trump's gonna come in and he's going to
do away with all that stuff. He can't. It's not
it's not legally possible for him to sign an executive
order and do away with the need for a tax
stamp on a suppressor or a tax stamp on a
machine guns or an spr It's a it is actually
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a law. It's a law that has been around for
almost one hundred years, so the National Firearms Act. It's
been added to over the years, but it started in
the roaring twenties to try to get the all the
gangsters up in Chicago from having Tommy guns.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Right taxing there was a lot of money there.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Again, they were trying to limit violence in the major
metropolitan areas, the big cities where all the crime was occurring.
They were trying to limit violence there the same way.
And I was listening to Pressons listening to his podcasts
on the way in today and he was talking about
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you know, some posts that was done over ten years ago,
and the guy was pretty accurate on it. As you know,
the United States is one of the highest murder rates
in the world. However, if you take out four or
five key cities, we're among the bottom bodiless, and we're
very low, but it's occurs in certain areas, and so
much of our legislation and our laws are passed to
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deal with the big cities who already have some of
the toughest gun laws on record in those cities, which
does absolutely no good because you could just go across
the border of the city limits, just like you can
go across traditionally the southern border, the northern border or whatever,
and you have this free flow back and forth of
this stuff. So you know, they can enact what they
want to, but then they limit law abiding citizens' ability
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to protect themselves in those cities because they can't do
anything about it. Kind of like kind of like a
school campus in Florida where you cannot carry a gun,
you know, university campus and all the all the gun
free zones and stuff that exist out there, which are
asinine because all you're doing is keeping law abiding citizens
who would carry to defend themselves and the people in
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their immediate surrounding to take away their right to defend
themselves because they're on a piece of property. And it's
literally on the other side of the street. Yeah, I
mean which sidewalk are you walking down? Now? I mean
is this who who maintains this road? You know where
you owned this property? You're own that property, and you
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know it's the whole thing's ridiculous. Yeah, it just is.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
But I get. I get the question I get, probably
as much or more than any other question, is do
I think that the tax stamps and the legalization or
the relaxing of the law the federal law governing n
FA items, which is short barrel rifles and shotguns, suppressors
and machine guns. Those are the three things that the
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National Firearms Act deal with regulation on Do I think
it's going to go away? And my answer is always
not likely, because one the Republicans, the Republicans traditionally don't
want to do anything to start with about the law.
Most some of them are fine with it.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
We don't.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
The Republicans do not have a sixty percent majority in
the Senate, and which it takes to pass the law.
There for the most part, on most things. And thirdly
is that it is a substantial stream of revenue for
the federal government. Tax revenue at two hundred dollars per item.
And when have you ever known the government to give back,
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to do away with a tax. It doesn't normally, that
is that is rare. They may restructure now you may restructure.
They're not doing away with tax. They're restructuring stuff. And
that's it. May it affects one group or the other,
but they don't. The government looks at revenue streams. They
have to. So I don't see them doing away with that.
So maybe they will, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Here's all I'll see them do away with giving money
to people that don't pay taxes and giving them tax money.
You can get money at the end of the year
and you didn't pay any taxes, you didn't pay enough,
and you're eligible to get money.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Back earned income tax CRST.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So yeah, I didn't work this year, or I worked
and only paid this and I'm getting all my money
I paid in, plus I'm getting three game set them,
I'm getting all that stuff. That's just redistribution of wealth.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I came under the Clinton administration.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Well, now you got in Florida, there's this infighting. You're
going You've got the House who supports Trump and the
Senate who seems to be supporting the Santis fighting each
other in the state of Florida, and nothing's getting done
because one side wants to do away with property taxes,
one side wants to do away wants to cut the
sales tax, and they're having this big argument right now
about which side's right. Personally, I happen to know through
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research that the state gets no revenue from property taxes.
So when the state wants to do away of property taxes,
they're saying, we want to take away funding from local governments.
Well okay, uh, who's going to pay for the police
and the fire. Well, you know there's a there's an
avalorm for schools, and there's this, and there's that. I
don't really know. And then sales tax. You cut the
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sales tax. Yeah, you're taking money away from your You're
you're giving money back to tourists and all. But at
the same time they're also doing away with you know,
you're some money that I pay out every So I
don't know which side I necessarily support. There's probably a
compromise somewhere in the middle. But because one side doesn't
want to see Casey Desatus elected governor, they want the
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other guy to get it. And then somebody wants and
nobody wants to see and they're just there and you're
talking about Republicans in a Republican state, and this is
what happens. This is what happens. Is one party takes over.
One party takes over and dominates, and then they start
infighting and then nothing gets done and then people get
(36:04):
frustrated and they start voting for the other party again.
And so my message to the Republicans in Florida, gets
your crep together and that right, because you know.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I'll go ahead and echo that sentiment.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, this is so.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
By the way, I had a question for you on
the silencers man. All right, So I've got a silencer.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Account the silencer shop.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, so I have a silencer shop account. Can I
take that? And if you've got an automatic weapon out
there I want to get, can I say, all right,
I want to buy that and then use my silence
or shop account.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
It's a Form four. So all NFA transfers occur on
a federal NFA Act Form four, which is a transfer
from one entity to another. So, yes, if I owned
the machine gun that you wanted to buy, and I
was it was a transferable gun that I could sell
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to you, it would be formed forward from the company.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
To you, and I could buy that today and potentially
leave with it next week.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
And it's the same process with a suppressor. It's the
same problet. Now, if you want to manufacture your own
short barrel rifle not machine gun, there's restrictions from a
nineteen eighty six revision of the NFA that says you
can't make any new machine guns. No machine guns manufactured
post May of since May of nineteen eighty six are
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one hundred percent not transferable.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
OK.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
So I have a we the license that Charlie and
I have to operate this business. We're a manufacturer, I
can go in the back room back there and manufacture
a machine gun. I file a Form two with the
government to say, Hey, I'm building a machine gun. This
is the serial number, this is the caliber, this is
what it is. I'm going to build this with my license.
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And when it gets completed and tested and ready to go,
and it's functional and I want to go down to
the range and use it for whatever purposes I built
it for. As a as a manufacturer, I can do that.
I can't sell it, do you. I can't sell it
to any other dealer what used to be called a
Class three dealer, which is doesn't exist anymore without a law,
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without a law enforcement letter. So if a let's say
I wanted to manufacture some new swanky machine gun and
there was some police agency in another state or another
entity that wanted to buy that gun from me, I
could transfer it to it in the sheriff there, wrote
a letter to a dealer and say it to another
SOT dealer what used to be called Class three. They said,
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hey Bob down there at Bob's gun shop, Hey Bob,
this guy over there in Tallahassee built this cool new
machine gun. That we're looking at supplying our officers with.
Then Bob could call me in and say, hey, I
got to hear you got a cool new machine gun.
I'm like yeah, he goes, well, I want to test it.
The sheriff here wants to test it. That's what's called
a law letter. So I could sell it to that
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dealer then with that law letter. But that's really the
only way to have and deal with.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Well, if I want to die in sixteen, it's gonna
got to be better.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Three May eight six and it's going to cost you
thirty five to forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
And there are cases looking at the Supreme Court now
about the traditional use of certain farms and why some
of that might not have been I legal women's pass.
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Speaker 3 (40:46):
I wonder if we don't have the weather forecab the
the weather people have been missing bad this.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Heah, they've been lying like a rug.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
I mean, yeah, well I was sitting there looking on Thursday,
sitting there looking at the thing, and they're saying, oh man,
it's gonna be bad weather and flood. And it was
watching the radar in the future cast and they're showing
this rain all of a sudden just magically appearing on
top of us out of nowhere. It wasn't like a
front coming through. And I'm going, okay, well that's the
air coming off the Gulf and the meet and the
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other air, and we're gonna cause this storm stuff which
we've seen happen. And thing if it didn't rain to drop.
I got just a little bit this friy on Friday morning,
a little bit of sprinkle on my windshield on the
way of the day and.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
It didn't rain anywhere but closer to the house got
two inches last week. And then spread fertilizer yesterday or
day before yesterday, if you're listening to the show, and
spread a fertilizer on hoping it on our ayfield, thinking
you know, okay, we need some rain. And it came
about a quarter inch, right, you know, or a little less,
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just enough to soak that eurea fertilize that nitrogen into
the ground and get it. And we had a bunch
of rain supposed to be coming this weekend. But we
can have a gelly washer now if you want to,
because it's soaked that fertilizer in the ground. So it
hit just just perfect, and I burn a pile. I
probably shouldn't have burned.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
The shoot SIG competition is going on this weekend h
Saturday and Sunday at the range here in Midway. SIG
SIG factory reps are here with demo guns and things.
You can come out and shoot SIG products and shooting
a competition. If you own a SIG, you might win
a SIG, or might wig and win another SIG. So
they're here this weekend and there are these two boys
that were come down here. They live up in New
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Hampshire near SIG's headquarters up there, and they're like, man,
we's been raining and cold up there, and this that
and the other and this is it's supposed to bring
all weekend down here. And I'm like, and a little
different now here. It may or may not. Man, I said,
you might be dealing with ninety and sunshine and then
five minutes later some.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Bring all your string up every thing or shorts, but
you're not going to be cold. Yeah, So you m yeah, like, hey,
I just got a text. So I mentioned on the
last show going to the Graceville livest Goat and burd Yeah,
the goat, the goat and chicken auction goat roping. Well,
Billy Bailey just reached out to me. He wants to
(43:04):
teach some more foraging classes. So we're looking at May
twenty fourth, at June seventh. They got to go look
at our training schedule, see what rooms available for him,
and we'll announce that. But he went to the sale
last night and I was gonna take CJ, but I
got tired of working on the tractor. He said there
was a ram that sold for six hundred and twenty
dollars for a dog going ram.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
You gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I'm telling tell you what. I see that one up
for You didn't. That's pretty cool. Oh anyway, none I
had anything to do with fishing. What's going on in
the fishing world.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
We got a full moon coming up and finally we
got some cloudy weather. I think they're gonna really bite
this weekend. The bass fishing has been doing good. Brim
starting to bed shell cracker halfway about about three quarters
away through. Hopefully still get a chance to get you
on them.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Amen, I'm all for us. I'm finding a blue gill too.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
But they're just just now getting They then keeping the
water down up there on the lake. Lake some and all.
It's about a this morning, is about a foot and
a half low.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Well on on your way home. I have a favor
to add that when you go next time here, ride
by the Chattahoochi boat landing on the river for me,
and look at that first bridge piling on the Chattahoochee side.
It's at the base of that bridge piling. There's a
big square chunk of concrete at the bottom of that
bridge piling. And if there's about I don't know, six
or eight inches of that big square park beneath there, if
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it's sticking out of the water that far, or even
if the water is just barely flowing over that big
part of that bridge piling, let me know, okay, because
that's when that river is.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Just right.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
So I am man. I have been jones and so
bad to go fishing river over there, because there's it's
not like fishing, you know. I got lakes, and I
live on a lake. I got places to fish over
here in ponds and lakes. Fishing in the river is
something special about it. I don't know, it's just.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
It is it is. But so you are some big
shoal bass down there too.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
There's a big large mouth in there too. There's Man,
I'm not sho I meant red eye, spots spots, red eye.
There's three different species of.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Kentucky's body baths.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
I told you about my grand my granddaddy, my Paupaul
held the state record red eye bass for years. Caught
an apolas color over seven pounds.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Really yep, wow, you know that's not a shoal bass.
A red eye is not a showal. We got shoals
up the flint.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yeah it is. It's also it's called a cusa bass
or a red eye bass there. They're indigenous to the
flint Chattahoochee River system, and it's the world record. At
the time he caught the state record, his state record
was seven pounds. Even the world record at that time
was seven six.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
I think the world record is now just under eight
pounds and the state record is seven six or seven.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
When did he catch that?
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Fit golly, Paul. It had to have been in the
early eighties, because I was probably thirteen fourteen years old,
And the only reason he had the state record it
is because I kept him from putting the filet knife
to it. Because when we had caught like we had
been down there with Oh yeah, I netded, I dipped
netted the fish. Uh. We were fishing down below the
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trustle and uh, he caught that bass on a crank
bait and I dipped him up and didn't think much
about it. We'd caught two or three five pound plus bass.
And like I told you, man, when I was growing up,
you didn't throw that. You didn't throw fish back in
the water unless they were too small. You know. We
everything that we caught that got the filet knife and
got got fried on Friday night, you know. And uh,
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but we caught those fish and had another about the
same pound six and a half seven pound large mouth
in there, and he cleaned that one first when we
were we were got to the house and we're cleaning fish,
and uh, he had just got done skinning that skinning
that first large mouth that he picked up, and he
reached in there and got the other, the other fish,
and threw it up on the on the cleaning table,
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and uh, as soon as it hit the table, I
looked at it and I said, hold on, Papa, I
don't know what that is. He goes, well, that's a bass. Son,
I'm like nurser, I said, it's something different about that fish.
And uh, I reached down and took the old the
hide that he had peeled off of that other big bass,
and I laid the you know, because he skimmed them
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and flowed them. And I laid the hide up next
to the fish that he did, the red eye, and
I said, see all this is very different. And I said,
and look at that black spot of right behind his
dorsal fin. I said, and the fins are different, and
the mouth is different. And I started pointing out all
the difference. He goes, well, man, I think you might
be right. He goes, I don't know what that is.
And uh, I said, well, let's call you your buddy,
(47:37):
your biologists buddy at FWC, and uh let's call him.
And he went to the house and looked at the
phone them and called the guy and the guy had
us meet him down at the bait store down there
at Burkets down there by the river where they had
some certified scales. And he met us down there and
he goes, mister Reynold's that's the biggest red eye bass
I've ever seen. And Cofa said, what's the red eye bass?
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You know? And uh he explained it to him, and
and he goes threw it up on the scale and
he goes, mister renlds, that's a state record, he said,
because the record at the time before that was like
four and a half pounds or something. This weigh seven.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Well, I got a pretty important question. What do you
catch them on?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Can you tell I will? I am pretty sure just
it was either a seven A bomber silver flash or
it was a seven A bomber crawfish or it was
a seven A bombers and I don't remember exactly which.
I think it was this shad colored silver flash because
I think that's what we ended up. But the state
took all the measurements, gave him a certificate paid for
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the taxidermy. Really yeap? And uh did all that stuff
paid for? Paid for the fish to be a taxidermy
and all of that stuff as because it was a
state record. Wow, it is at my uncle James's house.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
So I got a more important question. If I want
to go fish ponds in my area this weekend with
the full moon, what do I need to be.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
I would definitely catch it that would dynamite. Dynamite would work.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
But if you want to stay legal, try to be
serious around you people.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
There's two baits. You need to take a top water frog,
top water frog, holl of belly frog, and then have
a worm SINKO sink eight inch ten inch worm, any
warm fish to bottom and on top. One of the
two is gonna catch them.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Put a weight on the worm.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Depends how much muck you got on the bottle.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
You don't want it sinking, okay, so maybe no weight
you can yep, just let it sink.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Let's let it sink. Fish is slow right now, the
brim I know, I know what one of the lakes
you're thinking about. I know the brim are actually bedding
on there. Have a good source told me so you
could definitely catch some big ones around brim beds right.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Now, okay, around the brim bed SINKO, yes, sink, sink. Color.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
Just stick with green pumpkin, take go bad with that?
Speaker 2 (49:54):
What color frog frog?
Speaker 4 (49:56):
As long as it I would go with a spro
popping frog and get a color called it's called speck.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Spro popping frog color called speck.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
That one.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
Any any frog with a white belly, any whiter, whiter
yellow belly.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Because I've got I tell you I'm saying, I'm won't
go back and listen to it.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
I would definitely try that.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
And you pop him with around lily.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Any kind of any kind of cover cover. But but
the key to that now, if you're gonna fish that,
make sure you're using the heavier action rod frog with
braided line at least fifty pound braid likes. When you
set the hook, you got to get both those hooks
into their mouth. So you need to stiffer rod.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
If it's raining, what I need to be fishing.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
You need to be inside. When it's framing, lightning's.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Lightning, stay inside. If it's not frog, that throw that
frog that bout it. They're gonna bite this weekend. Yeah,
I think you're having bite this weekend, yes, sir, okay.
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Speaker 3 (51:22):
Pe all right, let's see y'all next week.
And welcome to the Town out Door Show. I'm Charlie,
I'm JD.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Come Fred, Paul Tarr, and I'm Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
All right, that was the show. Next before we started
rolling the microphones was like, what are we gonna talk about? Well,
we had a ten minute conversation here y'all talking about
boats and a secret fishing spot which I'm going to
announce a just out of spite, I'm gonna give away
you secret fishing places. All you and all you have
(00:32):
to do there is subscribe to a little known concept
known as trespassing. I mean, it's as old as time.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It is crazy what people will do. My uncle used
to have a little private pond over near Chattahoochee, way
off in the woods, and we would go down there,
and this is in the middle of nowhere, and somehow
another it got found by people that lived in the area.
I don't know how, but people going there and we'd
(01:03):
find remnants of people that going there and leaving their bait,
leaving their baby, trash around, yeah, leaving trash and stuff
and going in there and fishing in my uncle's pond
on his property in the middle of I mean, way
out away from everything.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Charlie with security plantation. You don't have much problems with
people are breaking in places to fish.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, Actually there was one up in northeast Leon County
where we had a guy had neighborhood reports a young
man getting on a bicycle these thug but his samdyle
on the back was stolen. We stole his back through
it in a dumpster. So he was going on to
one of our client's properties, climbing a fence, going in
(01:45):
there and fishing and catching bass out of the pond
and then going down and selling them to the neighbors.
And we got wind of it, and one of my
guys went out there and found a bicycle and he
ran from him. So we took his bicycle in his
fishing poles and threw him in a dumpster way away.
And you know, we call law enforcement obvious adden they said, well,
that's abandoned property. Can sit right there. Oh, if it's
(02:07):
abandoned property. That's the same thing we do with homeless
people on properties when we tell people to leave, tell
people leave. When we run these strip malls and properties
that we patrol, and the police they got to be
you know, professional and polite and above board and you know.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Turn it in with their property receipt with a.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Property See we we you leave a shopping cart full
of crap on one of our properties, and we know
we've told you to leave, and I can't find you
to get you to leave. My guys are strict instructions
to take that shopping cart full of stuff, put it
in the dumpster, and then roll the shopping cart back
to whatever local business as close as we can that
it was stolen from, because it's stolen property. It's you
(02:44):
can't take a shopping cart away.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You know how much? I don't. I don't know what
they cost now, but we used to deal with that
a lot of time here in town. Those shopping carts
were like five hundred dollars a piece. They were over
they were over the well. Back then fellony fell on
ey theft was three hundred dollars or more. I don't
know what it is now.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I think it still is. With the fact that you
can get those things. There's seven they reached.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
They reached. I know at the time I worked at
FSU Police Department. When I worked there, the years i
worked there, it was it was past the threshold of
felony theft, so it was over three hundred dollars. I
think they're probably up like five.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I have gone to several businesses before. They were cleaning
out a trailer park that had been abandoned for a while,
and believe it or not, there was a bunch of
shopping cars there and they had dumped them off the
property onto one of my client's properties. And I didn't
want a homeless people going there and getting them and
using them. So I went around all the local businesses
and made phone calls and visited. And one was Public's,
(03:41):
one was Walmart. One was you know, the people to
have shopping carts and big lots, and there was a
big lots on the property and they got theirs, and
the Public sent somebody over there to get theirs, and
Walmart didn't give two craps about theirs, and and you know, so, yeah,
but we have our whole company now, not locally but
(04:05):
to some degree, but up in on the larger properties.
And it's not just plantations. It's farms and homes, and
it's largely based around people trespassing, you know, poaching, trespassing,
and I don't get trespassing. I have a hard I
have a hard time. If I find myself I pull
in the wrong driveway and have to you turn and
get out of there. I feel uncomfortable because I don't
(04:26):
want to be where I don't belong. If I go
on to something, if I go down a dirt road
and there's a field, I'm not going out there. If
I find myself walking like if we shoot, I get
along great with my neighbors, but if we shoot a
deer and it crosses the line, I'm making a phone
call because I just don't feel comfortable. And there's there's
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roads right across the dirt road where I live, going
on to a very rather large piece of property. And
those folks are great folks. They've got gates up. But
nephew has the code, and he said, oh yeah, they don't.
You can go down there. And they said, yeah, you
can go to unless you say come on over. I
ain't going because I just don't feel I don't want
to have I feel like I have to justify why
(05:07):
I'm somewhere I don't belong now by the same token,
if I catch you dumping trash on my property, we're
gonna have a problem.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We're gonna have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We're gonna have a conversation and it ain't gonna be
one you want to have.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I got it where I enjoy watching these uh these
Instagram reels and videos, YouTube videos of the people that
are the guys that are fishing on public water and
they get up around somebody's dock and you get the
mad the mad homeowner, the the carings of the world.
You can't fish there. Uh yeah, Ken, I'm on public water.
I had a guy try to run me off of
(05:40):
public public water one time out in the out in Mississippi,
and I'm on a publicly accessible to the Mississippi River,
and I'm on the Mississippi side. There's different on the
Louisiana side because out there where I used to duck hunt,
it was the line that depends on which the lake
or which side of the water you were on. They
(06:02):
have private property on public water in Louisiana. As crazy
as that sounds, it's French cod and it is. It
is the high water mark and so many feet from
the high water mark and all that.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
You can be.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Ever, you can be out there at a lake and
you think I'm on the lake. I put in at
a public ramp and I didn't get out of the
boat to get where I'm at. And that's kind of
like Florida. That's Florida low. But out there. I taught
to one of the guys from Mississippi, said, you're fine
in Mississippi, he said, but when you cross over to
the other side of Lake show Tard and you're on
the Louisiana side, he said, if you see a posted
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sign and there's a half a mile of water on
the other side of it, you better stay out of there.
And I'm like, you got to be kidding me. They
can keep you off of that water, off the land,
under the water, under twenty foot deep water, you know,
the lake when those ox Bow Lakes, when the river floods,
it'll they'll, you know, put twenty foot of water where
there wasn't any water before. But you respect those signs.
(07:01):
I didn't learn it the hard way, but I got
educated by it because.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I can understand the rational, because I mean, like, like,
take take my property that where I live, I mean
I own to the middle of the pond, own the.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Ground, the ground to the middle of the pond.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Now you know, under the ripe Aian right law, then
the neighbor can get in his boat right over my property, right,
and I can't get him for trespassing. Now if he
gets out steps on it, we got a problem, right
even if he's you know, ankle deep in the water,
because he's on my private property. Different when you're talking
about publicly accessible waterways and then you got federal waterways
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that are going to overrule whatever state laws in place,
and then you deal with that. So it's complicated issues.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
It's a big issue out west right now with the
hunting and public land and public land hunting out west,
and they have these what they call corner crossings where
you have to cross over a piece of private you know,
you'll have basically four fence lines coming together and the
far fence line of the far far into the of
the property over there is public land, federally owned land
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that's publicly accessible for hunting, but you have to cross
over the corner of somebody else's property. I'm talking about
two feet a corner of the property to get to
that public land. And of course the people that own
that those corner properties don't want anybody because that's more
land accessible to them from their property. So they have
always treated that is there is their land, even though
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it was federally owned and probably in the end not
pay any taxes on it ain't their property. There was
just a big court ruling out west somewhere about these
corner crossings and how and then I'm reading some articles
the guys were telling you how to legally do that,
and it's basically, you set up a set up a ladder,
(08:56):
go over the fence with a ladder, and get over
onto the public land that you have accessible to one corner,
you know whatever, and you can get from public land
to public land or accessible land to public land. And
what you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Hunt with a ladder for, we're gonna do some trespassing.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
We're gonna do ten seconds, we're going two feet of trust. Well,
those guys would guard those corners to keep people out
of that public land, because that's, like I said, thousands.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Of acres camouflage hunting ladders for sale.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I mean, that's just just I mean, come on, I mean,
because then that guy that you're keeping from doing that,
go get him a drone and be perfectly legal flying
around while trying to hunt, as long as he doesn't
get below a certain I mean, there's there's there's there
are people that will go and set up hunting stands
on public lake bottoms that are own properties, but they're
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so below the high water mark, and blah blah blah.
It's just such a you know. But a minute they
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we're back. So we were talking before about trespassing and
things like that. You know, I run into things where
people will put a they'll hunt right on the property line.
I mean, they'll get right on the line. And then
you run into the situation where there's really nowhere for
them to shoot on their side, but there's clear land
on the ny on the property owner I represent over
(11:15):
there that you know, they yeah, there's plenty of but
they'll put their stuff right on the line facing that,
and you know what's going on. It ain't right. So
it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out they're
trying to shoot a deer on your side of the line.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So is that illegal or legal?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, you can't do anything about them having to stand
there then, but then go ahead, mister attorney, Yeah, attorney Conradhead.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Never forget this was one of the first case law
studies and property law and law school. The case is
at an ancient England case out of fifteen hundred something
round Pierson versus Post And there were.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Some fox hunters on it's a Pepe case.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And and they shot a fox and the fox went
across the property line and died on the other side
of the I guess posts is property. I don't know
which one Pierson or post was, but was it posted?
Uh maybe that's where that comes from.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
The Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
But the chance the ruling in the case was where
the noxious beast is as it was referred to in
this this property case, because I remember I had a
kick at that this noxious beast and he's a freaking
red foxman and uh, he died on whatever property the
noxious beast died on. The owner of that property owns
(12:34):
the noxious beast. So you shoot a deer and he
runs over and dies on your neighbor's property, that's your
neighbor's deer.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Which is what keeps me from shooting deer in Claring
Lakes in my front yard because I'm afraid they'd pile
up on the neighbor's front porch and then we'd have
all kinds of problems.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, which is which is why you should.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Try your best to get along with your neighbors, get
along with people that are around you, and don't push
the envelope. So you know, people hunt on.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
A property line that might just be in decent a
decent human and not avoiding all of w Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You gotta understand how many people I grew up in
and they poaching was a business for them. They gonna
find a place, they gonna go set up somewhere and
sneak in the woods and kill a deer and sneak out.
I mean, because they didn't have anywhere they could hunt,
and that's where the big deer were. Now, I'm very
familiar with that concept. I didn't do it because I
wasn't a big hunter growing up, But if I had
been a big hunter growing up, might have been a
(13:22):
different story. So I'm very familiar with trespassing because we
used to run around shine deer at night just for fun,
and we probably in some farmers field. There's all kinds
of stories that I could tell on that. I've told
a few. I'll tell some more later. But when you
know you set up like that, keep in mind it's
legal to put us staying on the line, but it's
not legal to shoot a deer on the other person's property.
(13:43):
In Florida, if you shoot across the property line in
an attempt to take game, it's a felony, all right.
This trespass trespassed by projectile. I think is what they
kind of call it. But there's a statue that specifically
I aimed at that. And so now you if a
bully crosses the line, and it's not as big a
deal with if it's in an attempt to take game.
(14:03):
I mean, but then you got to worry about, Okay, well,
did they know they were trespassing? How did you define
the lines? Was it properly posted? Was did they access
it from a public waterway where they above the high
water market? It just goes on and on. It's really complicated,
but so there are solutions. And what you do is
when somebody's doing that, you go set up game cameras
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on your side of the property facing their side of
the property. And if you smart, you get some of
these security cameras that you can talk over and ring
an alarm and it's harassing the hunter, which is not legal.
But then again, what they're doing is not legal, and
I'm you know, if you're going to bend the rules,
bending on behalf of try and enforce the law on
your in your behalf. And so I mean, you set
(14:48):
up a camera, you know that e before daylight and
you've got one of these sailor capable security cameras and
the deer is coming out there and you're sitting there watching.
You can turn the light on, You're shining alight on
your property, right, you can speak through it and go, hey,
how's your hunting and going? You know that kind of thing.
Deer takes off and the next thing, you know, they
find somewhere else to put their tree stand. And then
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they probably will call you and you can say, well,
let's come up with a let's come up with a solution.
I've sat through these meetings before where we have discussed
between two neighbors, you know, finding a workable solutions.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Like and they can like look at it across the
property and you could talk to the person on the
other side of the property. Yes, sir, so I'm wondering
some a neighbor's pool. She's pretty attractive.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You're that guy that flies a drone over there and
it causes.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Bad you know. And when Charlie first started getting into
all this stuff and doing the cell cameras and hey
look at this, and you know, taking these cell camera pictures,
I knew where one of them was near near near
a certain part of Lake Ammonia. I knew where one
of them cameras. Absolutely was. I mean I could see
it from the water. And you don't know how much
straint I showed into not going up there and doing
(16:05):
not so nice things.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well, there was, there were some fishing. There were some
there's an area where people fish and they also like
to go up there and get off the boat. Where
they were getting off the boat on private property, and
they were swimming in the lake and where they were
technically was above the high water market. Yeah, and then
they were above the high water mark trespassing. They're not bright,
and they were they were dumping their garbage.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's gonna take care of that anyone.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
They were dumping their garbage in their trash, and they
were building campfires and stuff, and they were doing all
this stuff, and they were setting up swings on and
so it became a liability issue. It became a dumping issue,
it became all this, and so a client hired us
to try to do something about it. So we put
up these big signs and we put up cameras, and
people would literally take a fishing pole with a garbage
bag and drape a garbage bag over the camera way
(16:53):
up a tree so they couldn't. I had three cameras
stolen from a local business in Tallahassee just a couple
of weeks ago. Some to shime it up a phone
I had to put up on the pole with a ladder,
and somebody got up that ladder and took the camera,
the solar panel. They went in a bit and took
all that stuff, and those cameras didn't save to the cloud.
They saved to the camera. I thought they were inaccessible,
(17:14):
but apparently they weren't. So I've gone back and put
them back up again. This time, it's gonna take a
bucket truck.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
I was gonna ask did the ladder? I started to
wrap it. I started to wrap it. I started to
wrap the telephone pole with barbed wire. I thought that
was a little excessive and a little bit of a
liability concern.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
You could get like some ghost pepper sauce and just kind.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Of around, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I happened to have some ghost pepper sauces that I
have not eaten the house that I may go sling
out up here. It's just the thing is is people
go to such and I think it was kids wanting
to tag it with graffiti, because that's really the only
stuff that's happened there, and you know, people get just
don't have anything better to do sometimes than the calls
(17:58):
mischief and lost me by eight hundred dollars. But you know,
in cameras and a lot of aggravation. But the thing
is is there's technology now allows you so many ways
to combat things that are going on. Or you can
go spend forty something thousand dollars and get you one
of those pull behind trailers with the flashy blue blinky
(18:20):
blue lights they like they got it at the coffee
shop by the interstate Marianna. Those trailers are like forty
grand and you know, but you can do the same
thing for a couple hundred bucks.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So and there's this company, there's this company. There's this
company that from cameras to that and I know I've.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Lost blinky Blinky.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
There's this company that will rent or sell you these
trailers where they have multiple video cameras on its solar
power and you go park it in the parking lots
somewhere you'll see it and pay lots and stuff in
South Florida in bigger areas, and they'll have these blue
lights blinking and they've apparently. I don't know they got
somebody watching these things or not, but the but they're
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a deterrent and you know it's it's they put one
at a brand new coffee shop between the truck stop
and the coffee shop at the interstate of Marianna. And
now I understand if you've got a construction site, those
things are actually pretty handy.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
There's a lot of stuff looking forward to trying to
keep people out of the truck stop.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Er when they were building the coffee shop and they
finished the coffee shop and everything's still sitting there, and
I got you. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's they're
spending money on. I mean, I liked the business model.
I love the business model. Matter of fact, we offer
that same service by putting cameras out, but we don't know.
(19:38):
They're not that kind of money. That's that's silly, crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But that's kind of a weird story. I mean, of
course it's been a weird week.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, so I heard you had an encounter.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, so walking is it's court on Sanko to Mayo.
You know, I've got tacos on the line.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And that happens on dreaming about your Havannah daydreaming. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, so I'm looking forward a little tequila, a little
bit of beer, some tacos and hot sauce and whatnot,
hallowpenions and come out of court and done for the day.
And you're parking my my my dad's office parking lot
of law firm downtown and it's right across the street
from the courthouse. So like one of the perks of
having your old man in a downtown law firm. And
(20:23):
I get in my truck, I always you know, got
my tie off and everything finished the court for the day,
and I looked to my left and at the bottom
of the hill in the parking lot, there's two lamas.
And I'm like, well, what what is going on here?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
And did you recognize the line?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I didn't recognize that.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
You know, these creatures seem to find that's specific.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
And I'm like, I'm like, what is up here? I mean,
of all people to spot a lama in my history
with lamas is not is not?
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Is not great past episodes folkus.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, and and and they got hats on. There's there's
two lamas. This is in a downtown Tallahassee parking lot.
There are two lamas with hats on them, and I'm like,
what on earth is going on? I mean, but there
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was a one of them did have a rope on it,
and I'm looking down there and I'm like, there's two
lamas with hats on it. One of thems got a
rope and there was another another lawyer who was going
into the office, and I said, look, nobody's gonna believe this.
Would you go to a tech picture maybe these two
lamas with hats on He's like, you're going to hold
the rope and I'm like inside, and so I like
(21:50):
at one of lamas, he kind of starts gritting his
teeth and I'm like, and I got to pickture with
the lama and I sent it to you, and then
of course I put it on Facebook, and then I'm
just getting hazed on Facebook. You know, where's the donkey hole?
There he is? Are you the one on the left?
(22:12):
What happen to your hair? I mean? And I'm like
I just can't win for I mean, I just wanted
to document that there was two lamas downtown outside the courthouse.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
So look at that picture of two lamas and the
jackets there.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You Yeah, So I can't tell the backstory because it's
got too much profanity in it. But nevertheless, it's been
a weird week. A weird week, I mean, I don't
will be right back.
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fifteen so a custom build ar and we have you know,
that stuff for sale all the time, and you go
walk right outside shoot that and we're moving cans, silencers, suppressors,
whatever you want to call them. That in business has
been picking up tremendously.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
What's the average wait time on a silencer these days?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Did he trust or no trust?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
No trust?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
No trust? Individual? It takes longer to get your account
set up and get everything processed on the front end
than it does to get the tax stamp back. So
let's just say week a week probably to get your
account all set up and to get the docu sign
stuff done, back and forth to get set up with
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silencer shops who we use to process the paperwork and
buy the suppressor from or with their stuff. Wait times
right now on tax stamps, we've seen as fast as
twelve hours really, yeah, twelve hours to I would say
seven days on as an individual, I just had one
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come back on a trust, so they're doing multiple background
checks when everybody on the trust. When you do that
process with the trust, I had a trust come back
in twelve days. You know, that's that way faster A
year ago it was it was nine months.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, you contrast that the first silence or I bought
I bought it on the day Joe Biden officially won
the election, and it took thirteen months.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
That was about right.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
That was about right. Twelve eleven to fifteen months was.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Why it takes so long then?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
So quicker now, I think a lot of it is now.
One they're not using the US Postal Service to mail
documents back and forth. Everything's done electronically, so you're saving
a lot of weight time there. And the other one
is I'm pretty sure they're using an electronic algorithm to
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process the background check and all that stuff. So if
they run your name, if this algorithm using the digital
media runs through using digital transfer of data, if it
runs through the algorithm and they don't get any kind
of a hit on your name data, birth SOUBD security number,
whatever biographical information they put in there, and they don't
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get a hit on your fingerprints, on your APHIS number,
so everybody's fingerprints. When you submit your fingerprints for testing,
they assign a numerical value to it. It's just long
string of numbers, right, So if they run those two
sets of data through that algorithm and there's no hits
whatsoever in the Knicks system or in the criminal justice system,
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they just process it right. Then mine have always taken
longer because of them. The how common my name is
with the last name of Johnson and the first name
of John and the middle named David. That's very common
names in the English speaking language. So there, I'm sure
there's lots of John David Johnson's somewhere in the US
that have been in trouble with the law. But they've
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gotten it down to the process where a lot of
the work now is done by a computer as opposed
to a person.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
And it is not a Trump Biden thing, because it
got better under Biden.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
At the tail end of the Biden administration, it was
getting better already. So it's nothing that Trump or anybody's done.
It's just the system has gotten better and the way
they're doing it has gotten more efficient.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Now we can just make all that go away, all right? Yeah, yeah,
that'd be the next step. Can you save you two
hundred bucks a right, We'll be right now.
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So as usual, we roll into the break and we
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talk about really cool stuff. Yeah, we were all now
y'all got to say it all again.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Well on the digest, on the Wiregrass segment, we were
talking about how quick suppressure turnaround time house quick tax
stamps are coming back if you don't have any kind
of criminal history whatever. It's all done with an algorithm
on the computer now and it's coming back there, coming
back super fast. I had a trust, a trust, a
suppressor come back on a trust in twelve days, which
is way faster than I've ever had it before. So,
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but all of this is governed. And everybody says, oh,
I want Trump's gonna come in and he's going to
do away with all that stuff. He can't. It's not
it's not legally possible for him to sign an executive
order and do away with the need for a tax
stamp on a suppressor or a tax stamp on a
machine guns or an spr It's a it is actually
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a law. It's a law that has been around for
almost one hundred years, so the National Firearms Act. It's
been added to over the years, but it started in
the roaring twenties to try to get the all the
gangsters up in Chicago from having Tommy guns.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Right taxing there was a lot of money there.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Again, they were trying to limit violence in the major
metropolitan areas, the big cities where all the crime was occurring.
They were trying to limit violence there the same way.
And I was listening to Pressons listening to his podcasts
on the way in today and he was talking about
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you know, some posts that was done over ten years ago,
and the guy was pretty accurate on it. As you know,
the United States is one of the highest murder rates
in the world. However, if you take out four or
five key cities, we're among the bottom bodiless, and we're
very low, but it's occurs in certain areas, and so
much of our legislation and our laws are passed to
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deal with the big cities who already have some of
the toughest gun laws on record in those cities, which
does absolutely no good because you could just go across
the border of the city limits, just like you can
go across traditionally the southern border, the northern border or whatever,
and you have this free flow back and forth of
this stuff. So you know, they can enact what they
want to, but then they limit law abiding citizens' ability
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to protect themselves in those cities because they can't do
anything about it. Kind of like kind of like a
school campus in Florida where you cannot carry a gun,
you know, university campus and all the all the gun
free zones and stuff that exist out there, which are
asinine because all you're doing is keeping law abiding citizens
who would carry to defend themselves and the people in
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their immediate surrounding to take away their right to defend
themselves because they're on a piece of property. And it's
literally on the other side of the street. Yeah, I
mean which sidewalk are you walking down? Now? I mean
is this who who maintains this road? You know where
you owned this property? You're own that property, and you
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know it's the whole thing's ridiculous. Yeah, it just is.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
But I get. I get the question I get, probably
as much or more than any other question, is do
I think that the tax stamps and the legalization or
the relaxing of the law the federal law governing n
FA items, which is short barrel rifles and shotguns, suppressors
and machine guns. Those are the three things that the
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National Firearms Act deal with regulation on Do I think
it's going to go away? And my answer is always
not likely, because one the Republicans, the Republicans traditionally don't
want to do anything to start with about the law.
Most some of them are fine with it.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
We don't.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
The Republicans do not have a sixty percent majority in
the Senate, and which it takes to pass the law.
There for the most part, on most things. And thirdly
is that it is a substantial stream of revenue for
the federal government. Tax revenue at two hundred dollars per item.
And when have you ever known the government to give back,
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to do away with a tax. It doesn't normally, that
is that is rare. They may restructure now you may restructure.
They're not doing away with tax. They're restructuring stuff. And
that's it. May it affects one group or the other,
but they don't. The government looks at revenue streams. They
have to. So I don't see them doing away with that.
So maybe they will, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Here's all I'll see them do away with giving money
to people that don't pay taxes and giving them tax money.
You can get money at the end of the year
and you didn't pay any taxes, you didn't pay enough,
and you're eligible to get money.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Back earned income tax CRST.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So yeah, I didn't work this year, or I worked
and only paid this and I'm getting all my money
I paid in, plus I'm getting three game set them,
I'm getting all that stuff. That's just redistribution of wealth.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I came under the Clinton administration.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Well, now you got in Florida, there's this infighting. You're
going You've got the House who supports Trump and the
Senate who seems to be supporting the Santis fighting each
other in the state of Florida, and nothing's getting done
because one side wants to do away with property taxes,
one side wants to do away wants to cut the
sales tax, and they're having this big argument right now
about which side's right. Personally, I happen to know through
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research that the state gets no revenue from property taxes.
So when the state wants to do away of property taxes,
they're saying, we want to take away funding from local governments.
Well okay, uh, who's going to pay for the police
and the fire. Well, you know there's a there's an
avalorm for schools, and there's this, and there's that. I
don't really know. And then sales tax. You cut the
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sales tax. Yeah, you're taking money away from your You're
you're giving money back to tourists and all. But at
the same time they're also doing away with you know,
you're some money that I pay out every So I
don't know which side I necessarily support. There's probably a
compromise somewhere in the middle. But because one side doesn't
want to see Casey Desatus elected governor, they want the
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other guy to get it. And then somebody wants and
nobody wants to see and they're just there and you're
talking about Republicans in a Republican state, and this is
what happens. This is what happens. Is one party takes over.
One party takes over and dominates, and then they start
infighting and then nothing gets done and then people get
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frustrated and they start voting for the other party again.
And so my message to the Republicans in Florida, gets
your crep together and that right, because you know.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I'll go ahead and echo that sentiment.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, this is so.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
By the way, I had a question for you on
the silencers man. All right, So I've got a silencer.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Account the silencer shop.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, so I have a silencer shop account. Can I
take that? And if you've got an automatic weapon out
there I want to get, can I say, all right,
I want to buy that and then use my silence
or shop account.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
It's a Form four. So all NFA transfers occur on
a federal NFA Act Form four, which is a transfer
from one entity to another. So, yes, if I owned
the machine gun that you wanted to buy, and I
was it was a transferable gun that I could sell
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to you, it would be formed forward from the company.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
To you, and I could buy that today and potentially
leave with it next week.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
And it's the same process with a suppressor. It's the
same problet. Now, if you want to manufacture your own
short barrel rifle not machine gun, there's restrictions from a
nineteen eighty six revision of the NFA that says you
can't make any new machine guns. No machine guns manufactured
post May of since May of nineteen eighty six are
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one hundred percent not transferable.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
OK.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
So I have a we the license that Charlie and
I have to operate this business. We're a manufacturer, I
can go in the back room back there and manufacture
a machine gun. I file a Form two with the
government to say, Hey, I'm building a machine gun. This
is the serial number, this is the caliber, this is
what it is. I'm going to build this with my license.
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And when it gets completed and tested and ready to go,
and it's functional and I want to go down to
the range and use it for whatever purposes I built
it for. As a as a manufacturer, I can do that.
I can't sell it, do you. I can't sell it
to any other dealer what used to be called a
Class three dealer, which is doesn't exist anymore without a law,
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without a law enforcement letter. So if a let's say
I wanted to manufacture some new swanky machine gun and
there was some police agency in another state or another
entity that wanted to buy that gun from me, I
could transfer it to it in the sheriff there, wrote
a letter to a dealer and say it to another
SOT dealer what used to be called Class three. They said,
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hey Bob down there at Bob's gun shop, Hey Bob,
this guy over there in Tallahassee built this cool new
machine gun. That we're looking at supplying our officers with.
Then Bob could call me in and say, hey, I
got to hear you got a cool new machine gun.
I'm like yeah, he goes, well, I want to test it.
The sheriff here wants to test it. That's what's called
a law letter. So I could sell it to that
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dealer then with that law letter. But that's really the
only way to have and deal with.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Well, if I want to die in sixteen, it's gonna
got to be better.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Three May eight six and it's going to cost you
thirty five to forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
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about the traditional use of certain farms and why some
of that might not have been I legal women's pass.
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Speaker 3 (40:46):
I wonder if we don't have the weather forecab the
the weather people have been missing bad this.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Heah, they've been lying like a rug.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
I mean, yeah, well I was sitting there looking on Thursday,
sitting there looking at the thing, and they're saying, oh man,
it's gonna be bad weather and flood. And it was
watching the radar in the future cast and they're showing
this rain all of a sudden just magically appearing on
top of us out of nowhere. It wasn't like a
front coming through. And I'm going, okay, well that's the
air coming off the Gulf and the meet and the
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other air, and we're gonna cause this storm stuff which
we've seen happen. And thing if it didn't rain to drop.
I got just a little bit this friy on Friday morning,
a little bit of sprinkle on my windshield on the
way of the day and.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
It didn't rain anywhere but closer to the house got
two inches last week. And then spread fertilizer yesterday or
day before yesterday, if you're listening to the show, and
spread a fertilizer on hoping it on our ayfield, thinking
you know, okay, we need some rain. And it came
about a quarter inch, right, you know, or a little less,
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just enough to soak that eurea fertilize that nitrogen into
the ground and get it. And we had a bunch
of rain supposed to be coming this weekend. But we
can have a gelly washer now if you want to,
because it's soaked that fertilizer in the ground. So it
hit just just perfect, and I burn a pile. I
probably shouldn't have burned.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
The shoot SIG competition is going on this weekend h
Saturday and Sunday at the range here in Midway. SIG
SIG factory reps are here with demo guns and things.
You can come out and shoot SIG products and shooting
a competition. If you own a SIG, you might win
a SIG, or might wig and win another SIG. So
they're here this weekend and there are these two boys
that were come down here. They live up in New
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Hampshire near SIG's headquarters up there, and they're like, man,
we's been raining and cold up there, and this that
and the other and this is it's supposed to bring
all weekend down here. And I'm like, and a little
different now here. It may or may not. Man, I said,
you might be dealing with ninety and sunshine and then
five minutes later some.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Bring all your string up every thing or shorts, but
you're not going to be cold. Yeah, So you m yeah, like, hey,
I just got a text. So I mentioned on the
last show going to the Graceville livest Goat and burd Yeah,
the goat, the goat and chicken auction goat roping. Well,
Billy Bailey just reached out to me. He wants to
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teach some more foraging classes. So we're looking at May
twenty fourth, at June seventh. They got to go look
at our training schedule, see what rooms available for him,
and we'll announce that. But he went to the sale
last night and I was gonna take CJ, but I
got tired of working on the tractor. He said there
was a ram that sold for six hundred and twenty
dollars for a dog going ram.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
You gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I'm telling tell you what. I see that one up
for You didn't. That's pretty cool. Oh anyway, none I
had anything to do with fishing. What's going on in
the fishing world.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
We got a full moon coming up and finally we
got some cloudy weather. I think they're gonna really bite
this weekend. The bass fishing has been doing good. Brim
starting to bed shell cracker halfway about about three quarters
away through. Hopefully still get a chance to get you
on them.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Amen, I'm all for us. I'm finding a blue gill too.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
But they're just just now getting They then keeping the
water down up there on the lake. Lake some and all.
It's about a this morning, is about a foot and
a half low.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Well on on your way home. I have a favor
to add that when you go next time here, ride
by the Chattahoochi boat landing on the river for me,
and look at that first bridge piling on the Chattahoochee side.
It's at the base of that bridge piling. There's a
big square chunk of concrete at the bottom of that
bridge piling. And if there's about I don't know, six
or eight inches of that big square park beneath there, if
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it's sticking out of the water that far, or even
if the water is just barely flowing over that big
part of that bridge piling, let me know, okay, because
that's when that river is.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Just right.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
So I am man. I have been jones and so
bad to go fishing river over there, because there's it's
not like fishing, you know. I got lakes, and I
live on a lake. I got places to fish over
here in ponds and lakes. Fishing in the river is
something special about it. I don't know, it's just.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
It is it is. But so you are some big
shoal bass down there too.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
There's a big large mouth in there too. There's Man,
I'm not sho I meant red eye, spots spots, red eye.
There's three different species of.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Kentucky's body baths.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
I told you about my grand my granddaddy, my Paupaul
held the state record red eye bass for years. Caught
an apolas color over seven pounds.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Really yep, wow, you know that's not a shoal bass.
A red eye is not a showal. We got shoals
up the flint.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yeah it is. It's also it's called a cusa bass
or a red eye bass there. They're indigenous to the
flint Chattahoochee River system, and it's the world record. At
the time he caught the state record, his state record
was seven pounds. Even the world record at that time
was seven six.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
I think the world record is now just under eight
pounds and the state record is seven six or seven.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
When did he catch that?
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Fit golly, Paul. It had to have been in the
early eighties, because I was probably thirteen fourteen years old,
And the only reason he had the state record it
is because I kept him from putting the filet knife
to it. Because when we had caught like we had
been down there with Oh yeah, I netded, I dipped
netted the fish. Uh. We were fishing down below the
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trustle and uh, he caught that bass on a crank
bait and I dipped him up and didn't think much
about it. We'd caught two or three five pound plus bass.
And like I told you, man, when I was growing up,
you didn't throw that. You didn't throw fish back in
the water unless they were too small. You know. We
everything that we caught that got the filet knife and
got got fried on Friday night, you know. And uh,
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but we caught those fish and had another about the
same pound six and a half seven pound large mouth
in there, and he cleaned that one first when we
were we were got to the house and we're cleaning fish,
and uh, he had just got done skinning that skinning
that first large mouth that he picked up, and he
reached in there and got the other, the other fish,
and threw it up on the on the cleaning table,
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and uh, as soon as it hit the table, I
looked at it and I said, hold on, Papa, I
don't know what that is. He goes, well, that's a bass. Son,
I'm like nurser, I said, it's something different about that fish.
And uh, I reached down and took the old the
hide that he had peeled off of that other big bass,
and I laid the you know, because he skimmed them
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and flowed them. And I laid the hide up next
to the fish that he did, the red eye, and
I said, see all this is very different. And I said,
and look at that black spot of right behind his
dorsal fin. I said, and the fins are different, and
the mouth is different. And I started pointing out all
the difference. He goes, well, man, I think you might
be right. He goes, I don't know what that is.
And uh, I said, well, let's call you your buddy,
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your biologists buddy at FWC, and uh let's call him.
And he went to the house and looked at the
phone them and called the guy and the guy had
us meet him down at the bait store down there
at Burkets down there by the river where they had
some certified scales. And he met us down there and
he goes, mister Reynold's that's the biggest red eye bass
I've ever seen. And Cofa said, what's the red eye bass?
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You know? And uh he explained it to him, and
and he goes threw it up on the scale and
he goes, mister renlds, that's a state record, he said,
because the record at the time before that was like
four and a half pounds or something. This weigh seven.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Well, I got a pretty important question. What do you
catch them on?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Can you tell I will? I am pretty sure just
it was either a seven A bomber silver flash or
it was a seven A bomber crawfish or it was
a seven A bombers and I don't remember exactly which.
I think it was this shad colored silver flash because
I think that's what we ended up. But the state
took all the measurements, gave him a certificate paid for
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the taxidermy. Really yeap? And uh did all that stuff
paid for? Paid for the fish to be a taxidermy
and all of that stuff as because it was a
state record. Wow, it is at my uncle James's house.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
So I got a more important question. If I want
to go fish ponds in my area this weekend with
the full moon, what do I need to be.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
I would definitely catch it that would dynamite. Dynamite would work.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
But if you want to stay legal, try to be
serious around you people.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
There's two baits. You need to take a top water frog,
top water frog, holl of belly frog, and then have
a worm SINKO sink eight inch ten inch worm, any
warm fish to bottom and on top. One of the
two is gonna catch them.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Put a weight on the worm.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Depends how much muck you got on the bottle.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
You don't want it sinking, okay, so maybe no weight
you can yep, just let it sink.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Let's let it sink. Fish is slow right now, the
brim I know, I know what one of the lakes
you're thinking about. I know the brim are actually bedding
on there. Have a good source told me so you
could definitely catch some big ones around brim beds right.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Now, okay, around the brim bed SINKO, yes, sink, sink. Color.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
Just stick with green pumpkin, take go bad with that?
Speaker 2 (49:54):
What color frog frog?
Speaker 4 (49:56):
As long as it I would go with a spro
popping frog and get a color called it's called speck.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Spro popping frog color called speck.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
That one.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
Any any frog with a white belly, any whiter, whiter
yellow belly.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Because I've got I tell you I'm saying, I'm won't
go back and listen to it.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
I would definitely try that.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
And you pop him with around lily.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Any kind of any kind of cover cover. But but
the key to that now, if you're gonna fish that,
make sure you're using the heavier action rod frog with
braided line at least fifty pound braid likes. When you
set the hook, you got to get both those hooks
into their mouth. So you need to stiffer rod.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
If it's raining, what I need to be fishing.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
You need to be inside. When it's framing, lightning's.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Lightning, stay inside. If it's not frog, that throw that
frog that bout it. They're gonna bite this weekend. Yeah,
I think you're having bite this weekend, yes, sir, okay.
And I to mention if anybody wants to get a
gift certificate thanks to mister Fred give me this idea.
Please give me a call at eight five o two
sixty four seven five three four or look me up
(51:10):
on Facebook at Captain Paul TI Fishing. I had a
person call last week that listened to show our conversation
about getting a rod and reel. Had some great questions
from Destin. Really nice guy. Yeah, absolutely, here gifts steph
Ki looks pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
Pe all right, let's see y'all next week.
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