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May 17, 2025 51 mins
In today's episode, the Talon guys discuss how good AI is getting and some of the legal challenges law enforcement officers and lawyers are going to find. They also discussed the current Florida political debate over sales taxes and property taxes.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And welcome to the town outdoor show. I'm Charlie, I'm
j Duh.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Biden calls me Steve.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Having baltire grant. The fact that Biden calls you kind
of disturbing.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, I mean he saw me walking down the street,
said I was Steve. I think that's what he's calling everybody.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Now, Steve, Steve, bless his heart.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, if you don't know, we're talking about Jake Sullivan,
who says, uh defense uh a defense advisor.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
National security advisor, security advisor.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's in a room full of people. This guy has
been with him for what two decades in one capacity
or another, and he's like, hey, Steve, come on, what
his name is?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Jake whatevers his heart? Bless his heart. You don't be watching.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I mean the even people on on the they're part
of Biden's old team talking about all the stuff that's
Trump done has done lately, Like he just went on
to the Middle East's marveling, came back with all this deals.
How that guy now he's had four years to sit
around and figure all this out. I mean you already
had four years figure out how to be president do
all this stuff, had a four year hiatus the whole

(01:10):
time was planning a comeback right intermission. Yeah, I had
a little intermission. It's like, okay, all right, we get
little mone we get my second win comes in, and
it's just just one hundred and fifty executive orders.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I honestly think.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Here's my theory on all this is that when he
got elected the first time, it was such a shock
not only to us but to him as well, and
they had no body in place. So he had to
go to the to the swamp creatures in d C
and say, who do I appoint to these jobs? Because
I don't know I don't know these people. I don't
know this. So he probably listened to some of the

(01:45):
swamp creatures up there that need to be term limited
and they said, yeah, put this guy here, this guy
here there, and got bad advice and got you know,
just held up from one thing. It's not that I
don't think he had some of this stuff playing on
the first go around. Did he wanted to do I.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Don't think he was willing to go as radical. I
mean he did some radical stuff, but I don't think
he was willing to go so far out into left
field as he has this time. This time he goes
out nothing to lose.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
This time, he does not care about the yeah, political
future or whatever else. And he's not listening. He learned
who not to listen to. If you've learned one thing
in the first term is who not to listen to everybody,
And that's those people that get continually reelected for thirty
and forty years as right.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
And it's the deep stay and make a one hundred
and sixty thousand years and have millions.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, if we don't, if we do one thing as
a country to make this country better. And I will
say this, and I'm getting off politics. If we need
to have term limits, and I'm talking about from the
dog catcher to the president, there needs to be termed.
There already are term limits on the president, but there's
no term limits on congressman. And there should be the same.
And when you take a job as a top level bureaucrat,

(02:55):
you should not have job security.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I think the longer you're in there, the more likely
it is is that you become and I don't know
that it's maliciously corrupt, but you become corrupt. You become
part more. The longer you stay in office, the more
part of the problem you become. Now there are exceptions, okay,
there are exceptions, but as a general rule, and all
you have to do is look at Congress and go, okay,

(03:18):
what did they start out with, Like you said a
minute ago, Paul, what did they start out with? And
how much money do they have now? And this should
be public service should be like community service. You should
get into it. You could do it for the greater
men of the great betterment of society and then move
on and go back and be part of society again,

(03:39):
because I think the longer you stay in political office
or even in high ranking government offices, you tend to little.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
The way politics work in general, and this is unncessarily
talking about elected the way politics work is I do
a favor for you, you do a favor for me,
and I do a favor for you, and then you
do a favor for me, and we make a deal
and we hate if you'll do this, I'll do that,
and and eventually one side of the other is going
to owe the other one something. So if you but

(04:07):
if you're not in place long enough, in an office
like senator, and you you're not on you know they
the deals in Congress are not made on the Congress floor,
on the voting floor. They're made in the back rooms
and the committees and whatever else.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, it's at every level of the government. That happens,
at the highest levels and at the most law against
the law. Absolutely it goes on.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Do you think the silver Slipper had back doors?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, I know why the Silver Slipper had back doors
back in the day when I went up there, You're
gonna slip out the back if things got tight.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
It's a certain judge I saw coming out of there
a few times.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Listen, I mean, if you, if you are, you go
into office and your fresh, fresh face going to office,
get up there. The first thing they do is there's
all the staff and people and a former inressmen. They
go into consulting, and then they lobby and you've got
all these lobbyists coming in telling you stuff, and and
really all the most of the bills are written by lobbyists.

(05:10):
I mean they come in and go, hey, we're gonna
have to put this thing together, and it's it's kind
of scary because but here's the thing, is you go
out and you get elected, I want to do some
good and you've got two or three things you really
want to work on. I want to go and make
a difference. You don't know anything about all the rest
of it. So where do you get your opinions from?
And how do you Well, people come in and lobby
you and they tell you this is what this is

(05:32):
what you should think, and here's why, and then you
look at it and size it up and then decide
that you know, this is how I feel about this,
and I'm gonna get on this side or that side.
And a lot of it is swinging a deal if
I support this that I don't really have an opinion on.
I mean, I'm gonna vote for this. But then and
then it's the political parties. Really you know, well, you
run as a Republican and you run as a Democrat,

(05:53):
you're already locked into certain opinions. You can make a
difference for your district or your era whatever. I mean,
there's a lot of mystic I mean, I mean, right now,
I'm and I'm a descend and supporter. I am a
firm just saying a supporter. I like demand and like
what he's done, like what he stands for. I'm not
you know, and I know people hate property taxes, but

(06:15):
there's this thing. Here's I'm going to try to get
rid of property taxes. Well, I want to see the plan.
I want to see the plan. Show me the plan.
I'll support it if you show me the plan. And
the plan needs to tell me where the money's coming
from to support the fire department and the sheriff's office
and the police department and the schools and everything else.
So if you want to take away property taxes, were
you gonna get the money? And there's only two places

(06:37):
I think you can get it from, and that is
income tax, which we don't have and it's not in
our constitution, and sales tax. And so if you're gonna
eraise sales taxes, okay, fine, sales taxes.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Are paid by everybody.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
So the people who are on government assistants are going
to pay sales tax.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Which is the bad part about people that arguing that
are arguing to keep sales tax or get rid of
get rid of sales tax and keep property tax because
that's the other argument.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, that's a problem. So the probably that then then
only property tax people who pay property taxes should vote.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Right, Well, I agree, but anyway, it's that would be fair,
That would be the fair way, because otherwise this taxation
without representation, that's not realistically going to happen. But but
other side of that is if the state took away
sales tax and said, okay, no state sales tax, well,
counties can leave the sales tax in their county because

(07:31):
the state tax rate right now is what six percent,
but county seven and a half percent. Some counties have seven.
So I don't think that if you take money, the
counties are just going to keep it right where it's at.
For the most part, they're just gonna you know.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, here's the thing is is counties don't get the
majority of their funding from.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Sales tax, get it.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
It comes from property tax and so and now and
then the counties. Okay, So, like the city of towle
Hases always had a hard time raising enough money on
with the local sales tax because FSU doesn't pay it
and state government doesn't pay it. And a large part
of the city of Tallahassee is occupied by the connswass
of government entities and they don't pay sales tax. So

(08:12):
Tallahassee has a utility company where they gouge people on
money there and so you know, you argue the point
one way or the other. But if they didn't have
utility company, have a really hard time running their government,
especially at the enormous salaries they do. Yeah, yeah, and
so the same, you know. And I'm not going to
say there's not an argument for reducing salaries at local levels.
At some degree. It's gotten a little out of hand,

(08:33):
particularly in Leon County. But the fact is is that
if you if you do away with the proportion of
the county governments and the local government's property tax, and
you have to make it up somehow, and sales tax
is while yeah, I mean, it makes it more fair,
it makes it, it puts an under It puts a
larger burden on poor people to pay a bigger share,

(08:57):
which I'm fine with, okay, because it will limit consumer everybody.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
It pays the same amount or whatever you buy your september.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
My whole concept if you buy property, I go buy
a piece of real property. I got to pay sales
tax on it. Want to buy it, doc stamps and
all this, and now you're going to tax me for
the rest of my life as I own this property
every year. You never property, You never own your home.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
You never truly own your property, your own home. You
never truly own it, because it's.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Just that to me, is well, are the flip side
the flip side? If you if you exempted property tax
for residents of Florida, I'd be fine. But now you
got these people from all over the world and all
over the country that own property.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Your homestead, that's what they're talking about getting rid of.
And you know you got property testion you pay on
vacation home, my office own that.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
All I want to do is see the plan. Man,
show me the plan, describe it, quit talking about it.
Show me the plan, and then I'll buy it. I mean,
but I want to I want to know where the
money's coming from. Next we'll see that in just a minute.
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(10:53):
And we're back and we're gonna get off of taxes
and politics.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
I said, a curse for aout.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I want to talk about Fred's aversion to Oriental people
celebrating the birth of their child. Apparently y'all got the
video I sent the other night right, Yeah, well Fred,
you know not remember.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Oh man, I'm sitting around.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm sitting around watching TV at night, scrolling through I
don't know, TikTok, Facebook something, and this video popped up
and I went, what was that? And these two y'all
saw it, But I'll describe it. These these two Orientals
folks were oh yeah, and and and showed that they
had They said, oh, we're having a baby. It's positive.

(11:43):
And the guy picked up this dog and held it
up in the air and he was holding his mouth
and the dog put right in his mouth.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
And so I sent that I didn't realize what time
it was and quit talking about the video now for
I'm sorry, Well I sent that thing out. I didn't
really what time. It was past JD's bedtime. And I'm like,
oh crap. And and I and I showed it my
wife and we were both literally my wife and I,
who have strong constitutions, were gagging and and and I said,

(12:13):
and Fred comes back with this long text basically calling
me all kinds of names, and he did.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
We could pull it up.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I threw up my dinner in the pie and the
dud duda do all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
I mean, imagine being asleep and getting and I realized that.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm like, so I sent Fred a text back and
I'm like, hey, I didn't realize it was past JD's bedtime.
Don't respond on the group. Respond directly to me, and
he responded on the group. I'm like, yeah, j D's
fuming right now.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Was that this one? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I don't show that.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, I ain't watching it now. I can't my wife's
been in Washington, d C. All week?

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Why are there tears in your eyes?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Start wanting to yat poor guy? And and so it's
I'm laying around at night and I'm watching what I
want to watch on TV and drinking when I want,
smoking a cigar, just enjoying my evening by myself.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
And then I get this video and I'm like, what
the hell is he sending I did feel bad to
me in the middle of the night. And I'm like,
and I look at it and I'm like, I don't
see it. I mean, it's stupid.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah you said, I don't. I don't get it. Why
did you send me this? Okay?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Then he's like, watch it again, watch it again, and
I'm like, oh my god. And I just went. I mean,
I had to put my cigar out, I had to go,
and I had to start drinking milk. It was well,
it was it was awful.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
If you hang out in this crowd, that's a strong constitution.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
So I'm walking out of Cord Friday morning, and I've
been Upstate Attorney's office in the bailiff is talking about
the this different public defender that apparently went to trial
last week and was taking her shoes off in the
trial under the table, and she had these disgusting looking feet,

(14:14):
and so I tell the story about the crusty pinky too,
and then she starts describing the feet and I start
heaven right there at the bailiffs unit walking out of
the courthouse because she's talking about these feet. Now, I
don't want to get into the description because it was
just it was as bad as that video.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, please don't.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I see what's what's gonna happen now, I'm gonna walk
into court that public defender I know, or I'm gonna
see it there. I'm gonna start going.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
That he wouldn't have made a very good cop, for
there's too much stuff you gotta go out and participate in.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Andy.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's just disgusting things that bout me.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't know how you did it with your aversion
to smell. I mean, cause you go out there somebody
had been sitting aroun for a while after they've passed,
and just I won't get into it, but because I
know the effect it'll have.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
But I just got it. I got you. I could
I could detect it from a long ways off.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Because when you find somebody from just Lost in the
woods from the the helicopter says he's over there.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah I know. Oh yeah, I'm down about you heading
that way.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well, I'm hoping to guy on the other side finds
him first, because I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I mean, some stuff they put on your nose X.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Vapor rub works great, Yeah, yeah that I kept some
in my car. I tell you that old vicked vapor
rub and just stuff it up in your nose and everything.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
So's we'll see. I grew up in a meat processing facility.
My popping and my daddy were both into me business.
So now well and and so I was used to
seeing stuff cut up, cut up, old stuff, guts, things
like that. But when I got in the law enforce,
when I saw a little different side of it.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
And the human stuff, not the livestock.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was, I was. I was, Yeah,
it was. It was not in the just And then
when you go to your first autopsy, it's a little
weird because my first autopsy was a guy that was
my age, same color hair, Remember when I had hair,
and he was my size, and general told.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
His driver's license and uh, go do some crime.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Because I was over twenty one. By then, I didn't
need nobody else and go do some fraud. He might
have had great credit. You never know, you never know.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
I don't think he did based on the history of
But watching that thing, I felt like I was watching
somebody cut me up. And I'm like, that's just a weird.
So that would be That's exactly what it would look
like if I was in there, And that's kind of
a weird thing. But I'm glad I don't have to
do any of that no more.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
So, like, how do you feel about when someone that
his way and they may they may have like an
open casket something, does that Does that strike you at all?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I always wait for.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Them like, well, no, I mean it's like when I
when I it's like I know what's been done to them,
and I get all that, and I don't in my
mind it's there, but that's not that's not them, that's
not them. That's just something that's just what's left that

(17:27):
you show people. But that's not them. I mean, you know,
it's it's the thing is is the for all the
first responders and the military veterans out there, and it
would be a law enforcement or e m s or
doctors nurses. You know, am I know? I know what
y'all that. That's yeah, there's a lot of trauma in

(17:49):
this world.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
There is.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Did you you figured out how to use your phone
to write on JD?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
What are you doodling?

Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's pretty neat. Don't do that. It's not an iPhone, No, it's.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
We don't do all that crazy iPhone stuff. That said,
who's got iPhone in here?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I got iPhone?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Do you know the secret password? Do you need a
secret handshake? And everything to get in?

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (18:14):
I don't know? Man?

Speaker 1 (18:14):
That stuffs too comm I tried to go I tried
to go Apple one time, but I couldn't fit. It's
just too complicated. You Apple out, I just could know.
I went that way. I even got a MacBook Pro
and I still have it. I don't use it very often.
It's if I need to do certain things, I have
the software on there. It's just in a drawer at

(18:34):
the house. I don't I can't do. I can't do iPhone.
There's people out there going, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
So easy?

Speaker 3 (18:39):
And y'all think of the same thing. But I'm I'm Android.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
We switched over.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
It's kind of like analog and digital. I'm analog. I'm
I'm like simple stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Man. The iPhone has got it.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Have you seen the new AI? My phone just got
updated and it's got this AI artwork deal where you
go in and you tell it draw me a picture
of a Spartan warrior. I did this, And draw me
a picture of a Spartan warrior with a or a
Spartan helmet with a Talon logo on it, and da
da da da, and it sends you back artwork. I mean,

(19:12):
that is cool. That is that is cool. I'm sure
it probably does that.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
He's got to pay for it.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
It just popped up and I started just you know,
because you gotta be you gotta be careful what you
asked for. I told you, yes, I told you about
i'all told you all the story about when I when
I when I drew our targets that time, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'll be careful when you're googling models for I'm up upstairs.

(19:45):
Well I'm looking I'm looking for I'm looking for a
silhouette of looking for a silhouette of some some muscular
guy that's threatening looking guy. And I'm like, okay, I need.
All I need is I need to take photoshop and
I need to outline this target and then I'm gonna
put shapes on it so we can shoot at it.
And I'm like, well, I can't I can't find what
I'm looking for. And I said, okay, well I'm just

(20:06):
gonna so I just you know, googled, all right, muscular man. Well,
I didn't know what I was asking for, but apparently
the Google, the Google ship, oh Google sent me all
kinds of stuff. And and my and my mother in
law's at the house and I'm upstairs. I'm upstairs at
my old house, out in chairs, and I hear her
walking up the stairs. But she didn't come all the

(20:27):
way up the stairs. She got about halfway where because
she could see over the second floor through the rail there,
and she stopped, and all of a sudden, she starts
tiptoeing back downstairs. And I realized that I had the
big screen on the wall up there where I was,
and I had all these pictures up there, and I
was like, no, no, that's I didn't say nothing. I
think to this day, she probably still wonders. But but

(20:49):
if you shoot the talent target, one of the talent targets,
we got down. There is a modified outline of Stone Cold,
and you'll see it if you know what you're looking at.
But that was that was one of those I told
my wife about it. She laughed, and I said, we
might not tell her. She goes, no, don't tell her.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
So she she's walking up and she's looking at your screen.
And you got like like a skinless or a hairless due.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
I got a bunch of I got a bunch of
grown like bodybuilder types and all like.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
You know, and striking underwear models.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
And all kinds of crap up there, and I'm trying
to you know, and I'm looking. I'm looking for the
outline so I can get the musk of the arms
and the and and so ended up Stone Cold had
that pose with the bald head.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
And I mean, the only thing that would have been
better if you'd had like village people songs played in
the background.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Oh you should you should see one of my employees
played dancing Queen. One of my employees at one of
my security in company employees since I said, hey, I
need a I need a I need you to put
your uniform on standing in front of one of our
trucks and send me a picture so I can put
it on our Facebook. He he was joking, he'd already

(21:57):
take you. He went out there with shorts and cowboy
books on the cowboy had dropped his foot up on
the front tire and took a picture and send it
to me as a joke. Well, I then took the
village people and I cut them out and put them
and I put him in with the village people and
send it back to him. I said, good, I found
my picture. That was funny.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
You talk. You take an alpha male retired jo carries
a gun for a living. You do that too. You know,
I was going to volunteer to be that friend that
if something were to happen to you in an emergency,
that I would be the one to go and erase
your search history on your on your internet thing. I
don't know that I even want to be that close
to your.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Computer and say, what is that friend of mine?

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Accidentally? You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
It's just that friend of mine has instructions to earn
mine in a backyard, and that would be right.

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Our suckers full, I mean they're preregistered, filled up, done
already you reckomend there's over one hundred?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Wow how many?

Speaker 6 (23:54):
How many full to do it?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Another one?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, we had the sigmatch out here mid other weekend.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
They had a bunch of people that one hundred and
twenty ish wow.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, if you're in the competition shooting, you or you
want to be. If you want to be, I know
up and I know at our Doathan Range, Drew and
Jerry and those guys they're putting together some you reach it. You
just call the range and talk to Jerry uh or
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managers up there are both They do that on the
weekends and they've been traveling. Frank's done a lot of
traveling and shooting at state level matches and different things
like that, so they can put together stuff, help get
you into it, gear, learn how to run the matches.
The whole nine yards is pretty cool. Gun sales are
picking up and doing which is a good thing. Lord

(24:52):
knows the silencers are selling fast. I mean, turn around
the other day we had somebody here in midway walked
in uh long term client friend of ours. He had
about nine cans on the counter and I said, how
long did that take? He goes by the week a
week and it was crazy.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, just do Yeah, they'll what what the what the
ATF does? Sometimes when you have multiple n FA items
in process at once, they will batch them, they will
put them, they will see your name on multiple things.
And they were doing that way before the weight times
or the speed up, before this big speed up that

(25:31):
we had. They were doing batching where he'd have people
who have been in the QE for you know, a
year on whatever suppressor they started a year ago, and
then they bought one, you know, twelve days ago, and
they'd get all their tax stamps back at one time
in a big batch. The way you do that is
you just call the a t F up and go
a batch. Please.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I'd tell you the silences that they opened up a
whole new world.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Of enjoyment of shooting, because that's the one big, you know,
the thing I just didn't care for for. I like
to shoot, but now I'm so spoiled. I don't like
to shoot unless it's suppressed.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
If it's a long gun, it needs a can on it.
If you can swing the cash, if you can figure
out how to make it happen, you know, and you're
not concerned with your background, then it is absolutely the
way to go.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Well, you know you can. We have twenty two caliber
suppressors here in the store right now. We've got some
instack that the suppressor itself is three hundred dollars, so
three hundred dollars plus sales tax and then two hundred dollars.
So we just sold one yesterday. Told guy it was
five hundred and twenty five bucks. He's out the door
and he's got a suppressure will screw on the end
of any threaded barrel ten twenty two or twenty two

(26:42):
long rifle. Is for rim fire twenty two long rifle.
It's not for a two two three or a center
fire gun. But it'll basically put us a pressure on
any twenty two you on that's got the thread of
barrel on it.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
So, so, Jeddy, what happens if you go and buy
a fuel filter online and put it on your and
get caught with it.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
You had trouble ten years in prison basically in trouble.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, So yeah, there's all kinds of ways you could
do that, but there are definitely consequence. There's the chances
of getting caught out hunting critters at night on your farm.
It's pretty slim.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
I don't know. The one time though, one of the
very few times I ever encountered law enforcement and was
in the in the wrong. I was rabbit hunting when
I was about thirteen years old in the game ward
and saw my light shining as he's driving down the
highway and comes down there to the to the past
year where I was. I was out walking around one
of those old flashlights that had the you know, the
big six volt heavy batteries at the little lantern screwed

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on top of it. I had me one of them
and my twenty two single shot and I'm out rabbit hunting.
And he saw the light from the highway half a
mile away. I thought he had him some deer hunters
out there, some nobody night hunting, and it was me
shooting rabbits. And then he said what are you doing.
I said, I'm rabbit hunting. He goes, oh, okay, against
the law, we believe it or not, that is against

(27:58):
the law. Rabbit a hunt rabbit at night is against
the law. I had no idea. I was like, I
was like thirteen years old and I had no idea.
And he goes, well, technically your night hunting with a
light and of.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
We had a hog at night.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
If you're driving, if you're driving around a field at
night in your truck drinking and you jump out with
a flashlight and a and.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
A yes three eighty LCP and shoot a rabbit in
the eye. For yeah, you jump out of the truck
you are sitting in the truck and hung it out
the way that I legit that I witnessed that statue.
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Speaker 4 (29:49):
That's going straight to the trash band on the computer here.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
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Speaker 3 (30:08):
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Speaker 1 (30:13):
I had to laugh that harden whak. And the thing
is is it's not it's not that. I mean we okay,
you have to have standards, which is a stretch for
us sometimes standards and standards, those standards. But uh, but
but we did bring up it was fun because towards
the end of that break we started talking about AI
and it's getting harder and harder. Yeah, and we called

(30:36):
all down the road one time on TikTok about this,
but just miss something for a few minutes. But I
love watching that stuff because they got there. There's one
of them now that they've got the AI babies talking,
and you know that's kind of that's kind of funny.
But I mean there it's I will tell you that
it's getting harder and harder to tell what's real and
what's not. You have to actually look at something. A

(30:57):
couple of times.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
I've seen some people say that give it ten years
if that right, and you won't be able to know
you're talking right exactly. It's it's accelerating, right, and it's
gonna quickly get to the point in the law enforcement world,
in the legal world where there's like absolutely nothing that
you can admit to court because like nobody knows if
this is real, is not real?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
How do we know?

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Like this, And.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
So I don't have to bring back medieval torture. You
throw the stocks, put them in the stocks iron maiden,
you know, and turn the heat up or the bronze
bull or whatever, and they'll admit to it and eventually maybe.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Be the salem Ai trials. Is this real or is
it memories?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
It's uh, you know, yeah, I mean that's scary. I
mean there are already cases out there where you know,
perverts are taking the people and yeah, like you know
simulated sexual.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
War things, yes, yeah, And then you get well, you
get into there's things like there's there are illegal images
and talk about young people and get into all that
simulated versus real, and you know, it's that's a there's
a lot a lot of folks that participate in that
type of pornography and trafficking and that, and they go

(32:10):
to jail a lot. I mean, it is easy to
track those images. I mean you can if if an
image child porn image is trafficked on Internet, that is
being monitored. Most of those known images are tracked with
an IP address or or an image I forget that.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, GWETT g I D Global unique identification.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
There you go that and it's at and is it.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
You have a web crawler and attaches to the contra
band going from point A to point B over the
cyber space, and it hits if there's a known see
every every file. If you take a picture with your camera,
you now have a file and Internet file with a
global unique identifying number. FBI has a database full of

(32:56):
contraband images. Most of them they know about because every
time they get it, that goes into the database. So
every time they seize one of those images, that goes
to the FBI goes to the database. The web crawler
tacks on if it searches in or crawls, that's why
they call a webcrawl. It crawls around the Internet. It
seizes on one of those contraband images going from point

(33:17):
A to point B, follows it to point B and
the point B is a known IP address, and what
happens there is law enforcement because like Sheriff's department, they
have a guy that does nothing but that that's what
he does. He gets on that WebCrawler and follows that
stuff around and then they go get a search warrant
for the IP address.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Come get all your electronic devices.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yep, come see, and there it is, and every one
of them is. Every image, every movie is a separate crime.
If you have images more than ten images or more
than ten movies, I guess of you. Whatever whatever it
is that bumps it up from a third degree to
a second degree felony. And I mean I've represented folks

(34:02):
that have scored one hundred years on the score sheet
for possession, and that stuff is sick. It is not
what you think it is. It is nasty. I mean,
nobody should.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
It is terrible.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
I supervise that unit for a while when I was
over violent crimes, and the Sheriff's office employees, which we
are very familiar with, their job was they had to
review all of those to make sure. I had to
sit there where we're getting a warrant, we're doing this,
and after a few minutes, I'm like, do you just
I'll sign off on it. You just bring me the paperwork.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
I'm not watching this. I'm like enough to go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I mean, and the thing is is you show up
and it's people. I mean, it's everything from school officials
to business people to just pure old I don't know
if I say script bag or not, but just a
piece of dirty you know, in the community. And it
could be people from all walks of life. And nine
times out of ten, you'd go in there and you
grab their computer and they tell you, yeah, yeah, I

(35:01):
did that, and and they're not They don't even try
to hide it because it's there. And sometimes it's I've
seen it be someone's someone's child on their parents' computer,
and you know, and then there would be some old
granddad or something.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
It is.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
It blows my mind the people that are involved in that.
You know, that's just here. I mean, that's that's nasty.
But the fact is is that stuff is easy to catch.
And and we'll talk we're talking about on the show,
and I'm you don't be tempted. I mean, you're if
you if you look at that mess, you're a terrible person.

(35:38):
I don't want to want you to listening to this show.
But the that's just you're gonna get caught.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Well, it's not just that, it's other stuff that that
is being sent out. If you put it on the
internet and it's illegal.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Uh you have worked hard at that.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, well and you've worked hard at it. But you know,
you send an email, you know, solicting illegal stuff. You're
crazy if you're using a computer to do any of that,
because they're going to eventually catch up to you.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Well.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
See, now the problem is we go back to AI
and images and you just tell the computer what you
want to see, right, and there it is.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
I don't know if there's safeguards on that or if
there's some way for it to to to And that's
one thing I ain't gonna try to find out, you know,
but I'm curious to know. But I ain't gonna find out.
And don't call me if you know, because that tells
me something about you. So you know, you know, now,
I've googled things in the past about I wanted to

(36:37):
know how to build a detonator. I wanted to know
how to do these things because I was on a
swat team and I was in law enforcement, and I
mean we sit around on the robbery task force, and
we talked about how to get away with a perfect
bank robbery or the perfect crime. When I was in
the financial crimes unit, we would sit around and talk
about how would we you know, okay, we caught these guys,
you know, how do they get how could we get

(36:58):
away with? And that's so we can figure out how
to catch the next What to look for, I mean,
you're looking for you know, if I was going to
break into a house, how would I do it? And
that We talk about those things in theory and you
learn a lot and that's how you catch bad guys.
What's crazy, There's some things I don't want to know
how to do.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Some of the Google search engine stuff though, it's crazy
because you can you can type in how to how
to build a bomb or how to build a detonator
or how to do this, and it'll finish the sentence
for you essentially, you know, and uh, you search history,
you know, in your search history. But you go in
there and you go, I want to buy a such
and such a gun, and it won't finish any the

(37:37):
there are other stuff that's that's restricted. That's a you know,
buying a gun would be a perfectly legal activity. As
long as you're not prohibited in some fashion or another.
So they monitor and cut off some things and allow
some others.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Okay, So so I'm gonna read you my I'm gonna
read you my search history off Google. I'm not going
to do it, Okay, Okay, So top the top ten?
How long can quail eggs sit before they have to
go into an incubator?

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Right?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Five to seven days? Belfry Security, which is the app
that we use to track our security company, Jackson County
Property Appraiser, because I wanted to know who owned a
piece of property FedEx tracking number the pot Agency tyle Hasse.
I wanted to know whether address was of a sistern
laws company pod And I was downtown at the hub

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and day got a satellite office and I was just curious.
Filligan v tuber Apparently that's some Matt said something in
one of his videos.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
I want to know what that was.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Opus clip, which is what we use for our editing
for TikTok. Does flex seal leaps gases while curing? Because
I sprayed flex seal ceiling inside an incubator and I
wanted to know four end for an AR fifteen BCG
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What's the incubation period on the Bob White quail? Because
apparently I didn't get it, didn't.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Remember it on the first Remember it from the first time.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
That's that's that's it. That's a peek into my Google search.
That's my that's where my brain is.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
If you google the term douche flu, let me have
your phone.

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For it comes back as soft choppy word for a vapor.

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Speaker 1 (40:52):
We just watched the JD brought up the SNL skit
about the Bill of Rights and any we were watching.
It's funny, It's really funny.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
That's one of the best Saturday Night Live skin. And
I'm not used to be a huge fan of Saturday
Night Live, but it's gone downhill in the last twenty years.
I guess that's one of the better skits. That guy
is hilarious, Walter Goggins. If you're not familiar, he is
super funny. He's from he's from Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah, yeah,
but uh, it's it's a good skit about the Bill

(41:24):
of Rights.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
So if you if you look at the ten Bill
of Rights in order, obviously the first one was freedom
of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion. You know
that was that's in the first ofment.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
What do the other to?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Well, then the I don't press go ahead, mister constitution lawyer,
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
R regress to redress for redress right now.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Okay, so you got to think in terms of these
people just fought a war to get away from uh tyranny, yeah,
tyranny and and a king and all this crazy stuff.
And so but then they said, okay, we want to
be able to do that stuff that is first and
foremost on their mind. And then the next one was
we want to be able to defend ourselves and defend

(42:10):
those rights guns, guns, google SNL Bill of Rights skit,
and then look at the most recent one. There's some
old ones, but that's funny, but it is it was
the same. Okay, we're gonna say and do and do
all that. We want all these rights, and then we
want the ability to defend that all right, and then

(42:30):
something that means absolutely nothing in these days until things
get really bad. The third thing on their mind, and
it was it was important then was a quartering of
soldiers in your home.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
You know, it just can't come in a case decided
all that issue.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
And then really yeah, because it just doesn't happen. And
then when it got further down, search and arrest rights
and criminal cases, right to a fair trial, rights and
civil cases, bail finds in punishment, so all the you
get all the way down in there, and and those
were those were the dealing with the government arresting you,

(43:04):
charging you, giving you a fair trial. You know, that's
that was the bulk of the Bill of Rights. But
initially it was you have the rights so to say
and do things, and then you have the right to
back it up with with guns guns. So tell me
that wasn't what this country was founded on.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
These illegal aliens do have the right to do process.
They already they are here illegally, but do they have
the right and.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
They having due process right, But you got to understand
what that is, and it's not the same as the
right you would have if you were charged, say with
you illegal fishing, and and you know you have a
right to a jury trial, and they don't have a
right to that. They have a right to an administrative
hearing on an expedited basis, which this guy that's down

(43:49):
in what is it El Salvador or whatever, he's already
had his due.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
The Maryland the father from Maryland.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, that guy.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, you don't hear as much about him there because
everybody starting to figure out what he's really about.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Yeah, here's our poster child for the left. Wait, I
saw funny. We should have chosen better so that we
should rename the AR fifteen platform rifles the MS thirteen
platform rifle too. Democrats wouldn't be against it anymore.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Certainly wouldn't try to bang it for the country. That's right.
So yeah, I got that same.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah you shared it with me. I think the same
guy shared it.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, just we engraved certain guns in certain ways and everything.
But I all go in there and I'll put on
your AR fifteen I identify as a musket. Yeah, as
a musket.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, there you go, say, anybody following the did he trill?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Now? So I want to know did he do it?
Did he did it? I promise you did he did it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:51):
He did it, but apparently there was. He would have
like these white parties where you have to go to
a party dressed all in white, and all these celebrities
wanted to be dressed and to short these parties. And
when a white party was in that's when the freak
when it ended, that's when the freak out would happen
and all the celebrities would supposedly leave. I know about you,

(45:12):
but if a rapper invites me to a party where
there's going to be a bunch of celebrities and all
of them are wearing white, and I got to wear
white to go to a rapper party, I'm probably not
going to that party.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
I'm probably not going anyway. But there there's that.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
I mean, that's weird. You gotta get rut a party
at your house where you had everybody dressing white everything.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
I don't go to black tie events because I don't
dress that you want me to go. You want you
invite me to you wedding and say, well you got
to you gotta dress up. I won't go one. I
ain't coming. I don't do that no more. Anyway, we
need to segue into fish U before we run out
of here.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Tell me about the white fish, well, the white bass,
white bass, there you go.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Caught one of them this week out there on the
striper hole out in front of the Spring Creek. But man,
the mayflies are just started this week finally, nice man starters. Yeah,
they usually start well, it's mate all make flies, but
usually start a little bit earlier then in April. But
this year it seems like they're starting later. But but
brim starting to bed. Not seeing a lot up shallow though, JD.

(46:13):
I it's this year has been very weird on the brim.
Usually you see them up shallow first, but I'm finding
them out in eight nine ten foot of water really
more than I'm finding them up Shallow's.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Which this heat wave coming, you think that's gonna change.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
Well, I think it's gonna bring some in. I think
they like that one on water.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
So we're not.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
But I would have thought with this full moon we
would have say, I would have seen a lot more
brim on the bad shallow.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
And I just Tater and her her friend boy went
uh one day this week to let McBride and fishing
off the dock and they were catching a bunch of
big old blue blue gill and they were gonna keep
them and uh, I said, yeah, it's getting dark, you
need to come home. And they ended up throwing them back.
But anyway, I said, yeah, take take them to Nana.
She she likes them fried brim. They they caught a

(46:58):
bunch of big old brim off the off the dock there. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
I think your son told me they were bedding out
there a couple of weeks ago. But they're just kind
of starting up.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
There on the lake.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
And that may flies are hatching now, so that's going
to pull up a lot of fish shallow usually when
the brim or bed and the mayfly and it's about
the same timing. But I was out this morning caught
some starting to hit frogs at yeps, yep, exactly over
lily pads.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Just dragged it over the lily pads.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Using that uh spray makes a frog with a with
the tails are attached to it. Yeah, and when you're
real it's kind of like a horny toad, but it's
a holid body frog.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
And I was throwing that.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
You just cover a lot of water with it and
it comes to the pads real well. Man, I had
a couple of big blow ups on that today. So
that the top water bike's really starting to pick up
for sure, and that'll go to a win September.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Okay, yep, yeah, long does this want? Long as that
water is warm enough, there will be laying under that
under the shade of them lily pads, waiting on something
to come back.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Right, And I'm looking as he's brim start moving to bed.
That'll call some more shell cracker bed too.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
So see, you better off in the morning or evening.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
The morning and even right now, I through the morning
and evening because it's so hot in the middle of
the day. Ain't need to being out there when it's
that hot. But in the morning it would be great.
Like today it was good and it was still pleasant.
I got out the water about ten ten fifteen, it
was it was nice out there this morning.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
So it's gonna be warm in the middle of the day.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
And this weekend we're in.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
It's gonna be hot.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah, I got to get speed out out time.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
I'm sending you some more videos. I want to mention something.
It's completely off the subject of fishing, but uh so
I went to my daughter just graduating from high school
here next week, I went to their h the convocation,
the other night at the school. Yeah, so what we

(48:55):
used to call back lart, but it was They call
it something different now, But anyway, it's where they give
them out, where they give out the academic awards and
announce the kids that have got scholarships and all this stuff.
And there are two kids in the senior class of
Child's high school this year that going to West Point. Wow, now,
how that's got to be highly unusual for two kids

(49:19):
in the same class, same school going to West Point.
I was so proud and one of the little girl
that God is a girl and guy, and that the
young man it was apparently my daughter said he's a
He shoots Olympic pistol twenty two pistol, so that's his
you know, his thing outside of school. And of course

(49:41):
they both their grade GPAs were off the chart. The
girl she played tennis and had won some her name's
Lillian Jang, and she had won some state state level
tennis matches or whatever in high school, so she's obviously
a great athlete. But she scored a perfect score on
the s A T test perfect perfect score. No, did

(50:04):
not miss a single question on the s A T Test.
And she is going to West point, and that's just
to me was like, holy cow, unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
You know, that's that's good, That's that's what we want.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Yeah, that's kind of why I brought it up, because,
you know, our recruiting numbers for the military stuff. People
going into the military during the Biden administration had just
went into tank and now they're getting this record. They're
getting these record numbers of kids wanting to be want
to serve the country, And that is a leadership thing.

(50:38):
You say, whatever you want to do is a leadership thing.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I want the best in, the brightest protector, absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
I'd rather have the smartest general than the smartest doctor,
because at least maybe they're smart enough to keep us
out of something.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
I remember arresting one of Tyler Hasse's best and brightest
one time for running a credit card fraud ring.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
But you know, it happens.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Boy.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Just I'm just saying, just because you're smart doesn't mean
you're good. That's what that just means, you're smart.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Yeah, but I was so I was just absolutely blown
away by the fact that there's two of those kids
going to West Pouce. So good on them, congratulations, good job.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Anyway, just stay out of trouble next time.
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