July 19, 2025 • 47 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
And welcome to the Town out Door Show. I'm Charlie.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'd got to Paul Tyre had Fred.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
All right, here we go. So anybody that tried to
listen last week's show, or the week before show or
any of that stuff, I apologize. The last show was
a rerun because I just totally fumbled. Yeah, I fumbled
the ball big time, and then the week before it
had some moments where it was messed up. So in
(00:31):
Grant's absence, I have been struggling. I'm beyond my capabilities
as a technical person here trying to manipulate all this
equipment and software. I've been thinking really hard for it,
about just giving this to Jade.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
To I can fix all that with a big old hammer.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
We just get on the phone and press record and
all standing around the phone and talk on speakerphone. JD
you're the one that came up with. When Paul's out
in the field and we're trying to do all this
advanced technology and do all this calling stuff and software
and all this stuff, you said, well, let me just
call him on the phone and put him on the
speakerphone and see if it works. And it works fine.
(01:08):
I mean, sometimes simple is best sometimes we're trying to
come up with something simple. We go to j D
and go, what's what's the easiest way to do this?
I do over complicate things. And I've been listening. I'm
hopefully this show turned out all right and Fred won't
wasting an hour of his time and several really bad
jokes trying to He.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Looks like he's got a golf game this afternoon. World
you live in here, go to play golf, ain't you.
Well it ain't raining.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
If it ain't raining, I'll probably go out there.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
How many holy ones you hit? I've hit two in
my lifetime in the past year. Yeah, the past year.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Last year. I came real close the other day.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Close on the counts.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Three three foot from the three foot from the hole,
and three free footed.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
That's why I hate golf.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I think the putter I threw it as long as
my drive.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
By the time I was over.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
With that's when I wit playing golf. When it gave.
When I was having to replace shafts on the golf
club from breaking them over monday.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
It's uh the most frustrating game. Yeah, you know, and
you think about it. All you're doing is trying to put.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
A hole, a ball in a hole.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
It's like.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Have you ever heard the Robin Williams thing from comedy
Skid about golf. It's bad language, but it's a yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
So, uh, I don't know if y'all saw this, but
the guy that took his mistress to the Coldplay concert?
Have you have you seen that on the news?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, he's all hugging and loving, and all of a
sudden they pant up there. He tries to get real
small and crawl up under the chair.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
And did you see the look on the mistress's face?
It was like a ship.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, that was funny.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You know, that's just word of the wise. Don't take
your mistress to the Coldplay concert. Frankly, I think the
wife sheld has grounds for divorce just for him going
to a cold Play.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well it wasn't Nickelback, but I mean, you know, cold boy.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
But I always take my missas whatever the Pitt bull
dog fights because they don't have a jumbo trod there,
and uh mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
She likes them.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Uh huh. So I saw something where I don't know
it was. Maybe it was a meme or a joke
or something about her being in HR at the company yes,
she's the H person. Man.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
He was like the head hancho and she's HR head
And yeah, they got some explaining.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
They they got lots of And the wife who you know,
thought her husband was traveling on business, apparently they found
her on Facebook. She's immediately taking her husband's name off
of her profile.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
So he's a lot of truck and he's the trouble boy.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Most prenups are invalid if there's an adultrey she's uh,
so that wife is getting ready to have a nice,
nice beach house.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I saw, I saw. I saw a thing where it
said a meme where it says, you know, mom, how
did we get so rich? And because your dad slept
with the HR? And I got half of stuff. So
I was doing it talking about HR. I was doing
a tour and a threat assessment this week and I
was talking to an HR director at at a facility
(04:22):
and she said, I said, well, you know, where's the
office and assistant and how do you determinations and blah
blah blah blah this kind of stuff. Part of what
I do is, you know, when you determinations, make sure
that there's a plan in policies and and I said, uh,
you know when they as well, it's never a surprise
typically And I said, well, yeah, I said, I as
(04:42):
I anytime HR would call you know, if I got
called to HR, I know what's happening. And she goes,
what do you mean? I said, okay, So, especially in
a facility where it's some majority of women working there,
anytime a CIS gendered, straight white male with a Southern accent, yeah,
gets called HR, it ain't good. There's not a good
(05:05):
reason to call me to HR. SIS gendered means.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Straight, Fred, Okay, I was wondering about that.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, you're allegedly you're CIS as well.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I'm not a CIS.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
No you, Well, then I'm glad you came out of
the closet for us.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I mean I thought CIS was like a dude that
wore were women's clothes.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
No, No, the CIS gendered is straight.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Okay, well that's that. I'm that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Okay, then you are SIS.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
He's a dude, acting like a dude, dressed up like
a dude.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I'm first, I don't know where do these names go.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I don't know. They just make this stuff up. They
play scrabble and say, okay, let's call him that.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, they everybody has that terminology for something. I mean
now now that one of the simplest types of terminology
to learn and j D. And I've been teaching this
for a long time is gun parts. Okay, because is
when like when we are teaching firearms, we go, okay,
this thing that this thing, this part that shaped like
(06:09):
a barrel that the bullet goes down, that's called what
j D a barrel barrel. And the sight at the
front's called what the front side, and the sight of
the rear is called okay. And the and the thing
that triggers the mechanism when you pull it, and the
thing that you hold with your hand like grip your
hands caught, yeah, and so uh. And the thing that
hits the back of the primer like a hammer hits
(06:30):
a nail firing pin or hammer right right on a revolver,
it's a hammer. And and and the pin that fires
the on a semi auto.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Revolvers also have firing pins. Some of them some of
them are built into the hammer, some of them are
in the gun.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And if you've got several parts put together, like on
AR fifteen's, you have a bolt you have and in
that bolt, well, the bolt is just a bolt, but
then you have some other parts on the bolt, like
an extractor which does what extracts the brass uh huh.
And then nearby that there's ejector. There's an ejector, and
then the bolt there's actual an ejector and an ejection
(07:06):
and then but all of that put together, it's called
an assembly. You see, have the bolt assembly, and then
the thing that carries the boat back and forth in
the AR fifteen is called what called what bolt carrier?
Bolt carrier assembly, Yes, and it's got a gas key
on top and that and then what does that key do?
What comes through that key gas gas? And then that
(07:27):
tube that the gas comes through is called yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's why gas tube comes from the gas block and
then comes through the gas port right right right anyway,
I don't know if it means anything not, Charlie, but
the little do hicky on the screen ain't making no
wiggly squigglies over there anyway, But them thoator wrench in it.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
That ain't good at all. Well we'll do with the
well only was it doing it at all during the show,
I don't know I was and it weren't doing it.
We got audio over here.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
On the I was looking at you, noticing, just apparently.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Making sure we all that really good content. Who's on?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
We all looking over my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, I was looking at your beard. It looked like
you've done something.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
All right, So the what we got y'all got me confused.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Now I don't think hold.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
On, it's still working. Yeah it is, now was it recording?
Uh well, we'll go back at the end of this segment.
We'll figure it out. I told y'all, I told y'all,
so I think on the way this stuff works, as
I can drag this stuff from the video over to
the audio and uh so, now you're on the break,
(08:42):
I'll get to wait a few minutes and see if
I can figure.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Out what I'm Oh joy, I can see the time.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, yeah, thank you for reminding me about the timer.
Got a kind of stuff you need to come back
to work.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
You just got back from New York.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I just got back from New York City, and I
got to tell you all about all the wonderful things
I saw.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know, RA found sets up there. Huh you found
a cis.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Oh, A lot of sisters up there, A lot of
a lot of a lot of a lot of a
lot of weeds.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Weed smoking sists.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Good, gosh, almighty, I have never The only place I've
ever any comparable to that is Las Vegas that I've
been to. It's just that's all you smell. Well, that
ain't all you smell. That ain't all you smell. There's
other things. And now you don't see that. In Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
People aren't pooping on sidewalk.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I saw no, no less than four spots where somebody
had just I guess been had to go down right
on the sidewalk. Four arrangements, yes, for four floral arrangements
on the sidewalks up there in four or five, six
days of walking around. But it gets see some cool
stuff too. But uh, now we had fun. I gotta
(09:47):
tell you about my my airport, my airport experience.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
We'll be back in yeah, amber back.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I think I was gonna Paul ask a question on
the break. He says, so you carry a gun? Did
you carry gun with you New York?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah? I carried a gun with in New.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
York, said to my wife. We but yeah, you have
to pack it in your luggage unless you're under unless
you're under orders as a law enforcement officer to and
on the job. Say you had to travel somewhere as
a cop to they'll let you on the plane carry
in the gun. If you're transporting a prisoner or whatever else.
You can fly while armed. There's a class you have
to attend. Charlie and I booth been to the Flying
(10:37):
while armed class and all that stuff. But if because
I'm I'm not a police officer anymore, not a law
enforcement officer anymore. My wife still is. But she wasn't
on official business. So we had to check our guns
in the into our luggage. Anytime you fly with the gun,
and it's it's it's crazy how different the cultures are.
We left out of We flew out of Panama City,
(10:57):
and uh the tickets for a whole lot cheaper than
tallah See. And Uh anyway, and there were four of us,
so we had enough sky miles for all all of
us to go out of Panama City. We'd had to
pay money to fly to Tallahassee. Crazy. So anyway, it's
worth a two hour drive over there. It's nice airport.
This little lady, little old lady, I say, old lady.
She's probably older than I am, but she's A little
(11:18):
old lady was at the ticket office or the counter
there where I went to check my bags in going
to New York. And I said, just, ma'am, I got
a couple of guns in here and there there in
the case whatever. And she goes, well, go ahead and
get your case out and you know whatever. And she's
sitting there talking everything, how y'all doing today, and blah
blah blah. It's nice thing being opened up thing up
and said there's there's the two guns in there. And
(11:38):
she goes, where's your bullets, you know? And uh, I
said they're in the other box. And I opened the
thing up, show her the show the amo boxing that
closed it back up, and she's all right, just sign
right here and off we go. Just that easy. Where
it's supposed to be is yeah, where it's supposed to be.
So I locked everything up. Off we go, get on
the airplane flight to New York. It's been the get
(11:59):
to New York, so usually depending on what airportran, but
mostly all of them now they don't put that suitcase
with the gun in it. They don't put it on
the carousel when you go into the pick up your
luggage with everybody else they isolate it and you have
to go to an office or somewhere to pick your
luggage up. So get to New York, wife and everybody
(12:21):
get their bags off the carousel. I go to some
security guards standing there and I say, Hey, where do
I need to go pick up my bag? Because it's
got guns in it and I know I got to
go somewhere special to pick it up. And he kind
of gets this perplexed look on his face. He said,
you've got guns in it. I'm like, yeah, I flew
up here with guns. Uh, well, it'll be that those
(12:42):
set of doors over there, the double doors over there.
I'm like, okay, he didn't come with me. And I
walk over there the double doors, knock on the door,
Lady comes out, here's your bag. Do you have your
driver's license with you?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Show me a driver's license, show them my claim ticket
for the luggage that they gave me. I walk off,
go getting to go care to cab, spend the week
in New York. No, no other just just that simple,
except that they had taken my suitcase and had put
these big tie flex cuffs, the big wire ties, big
(13:15):
huge wire ties.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Have a pocket knife on you at the time because.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
My pocket knife was where it was locked up in
the case, in the suitcase, so so you can't get
to my guns. For the hour long, forty five minute
taxi ride from from La Guardia Airport to the Financial
District in Lower Manhattan Island, I got to go through
Brooklyn or Queens or wherever we went through to get there,
(13:40):
you know, all these anyway, So but they had zip
tied my the scissor had zip tied the the zipper
tabs together and put a big giant zip tie thing
around the whole bag, so you can't I can't open
the bag at all, even.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Though the I did that in talahassee you in New York.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I'm don't know. Probably happened in Panama City, probably happened
on the way out, but anyway, irrelevant. I got to
the motel and got can I borrow your scissors please?
And you know, cut them off, and no problem. We
go do our thing, get ready to leave, get back
to the Guardia airport, checking in the luggage. I go
up to the ticket counter and this guy's standing there
(14:23):
and I said, yeah, I need to check these. I
check my bags in and I'm gonna check this bag
and I said, and there's some guns in there. I
need to get checking out notify you that I'm having
flying my guns. And they're checking the bag and they're
unloaded and they're locked in separate boxes and blah blah blah.
He goes, did you did you say guns? I said, yeah,
there's two of them, mine in hers and he goes, uh,
(14:46):
you got guns. I'm like, yeah, dude, they're locked up
in a lock box and a t s a approved
lock box in my luggage. Do you want me to
get them out? And he just gets into this panic
and he goes a hold on just a minute, and
he picks up the phone. He calls the police, the
airport port authority police and says, I've got a guy
(15:08):
here with guns and he's flying with guns. And I'm like,
please tell them the guns are not loaded, and I'm
letting you know I have them, and I'm just trying
to get on the airplane to go back to Dixie,
to go back south of the amazing Dixon line. And
I you know, I'm a cop ears I got my
ears By credentials, and I'm trying to show this kid
that's in the panic at this point, and uh, so
(15:30):
he goes, you're gonna have to wait here, and I said, okay,
well where I said, I need to sign the card?
Where's the paperwork for me to fill out to put
put in the bag? And he finally digs around and
finds the big orange tag that you have to sign
saying the guns are unloaded. He'd never seen that before anyway,
So he goes, you'll have to wait here. I'm like,
(15:51):
what are we waiting on? He goes, I'm waiting on
the Port Authority Police to get here. I said, I
don't know. Well we waited, and forty five minutes later,
thankfully we had gotten to the airport two hours early.
So thirty to forty five minutes later, finally the Port
Authority Police show up. I show them my credentials, which
they promptly begin to take pictures of with their camera.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Why.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I don't know, Fred, I'm not a cop up there.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Put him in the database. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Then they walk us away from the counter and they
take me alone, my family standing out there. We go
into a room where they make me open the boxes
and they take my guns out, which are unloaded, and
check the make sure that they're unloaded. And look at
all the look at my AMMO box and all this
other stuff. Take pictures of my serial numbers on my guns.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
What'd you have?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Uh? SIG three sixty five and a clock forty three. Uh.
So they take pictures of the serial numbers on the guns,
take pictures of my credentials, take pictures of my driver's license,
ask for my phone number, asked for my all my stuff,
and I'm like, my address is on there on the
driver's lives guys. I was like, I'm leaving New York.
(17:07):
I have been in New York for a week. If
you're worried about catching bad guys, y'all might want to
go to them double doors over there by the carousel
and wait on somebody to come pick their bag up
because the cat has done got out of the bag.
If I'm a bad guy, you know it's it's and
I the lady. They were super nice. The cops up
(17:33):
there were super nice. They were very polite, very cordially
all this, and I I finally I was talking with
them and everything was cool with them. They were just
as good as everybody was nice. It wasn't It wasn't
like a we've had some not so great interactions at
airports in the past. I wasn't in a rush this
time because you know, we weren't going to miss our plane,
(17:55):
because I told my wife, I said, we need to
get there at least two hours early, just because because
of this. And I kind of had a suspicion. But
they were super nice, and I said, yeah, I said,
just this example of how different the culture is between
down here and up there is a little old lady,
no exaggeration, a little old lady check me in all
(18:18):
by herself in pennsylclar and Panama City Beach Airport. It
was just as nice as she could be, you what,
and the least bit flustered or nervous or any of
that stuff. And then you get up there with an
adult male guy that you default, his panties got all
in a wad.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
He probably had them on.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
In the behind the counter up there over somebody. And
I finally I looked at him, I said, buddy, just
so you know, bad guys that are gonna do something
bad with a gun, I ain't gonna tell you they
have it. And go up there and you know they're
not gonna tell you who they are. And here's my
driver's license, and here's my stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
The only time he's gonna tell you he's got a gun,
it's gonna have a note that says give me some money.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, exactly, And that's you know.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
What kind of doesn't even have a gun when he
says it.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
But uh so, the people that yes, said du the
people that come up here with them locked up in
a case and tell you they have them, ain't the
ones you need to be worried about. But it's just
a it's a it's a very huge, very big cultural difference. Now,
I'll say this. We you know, we spent a lot
of time. We walked eight to ten miles a day
every day up there in New York. And other than
(19:25):
it being the second most nasty place I've ever been
and the weed smell being so bad, I mean, because
it's just unbelievably everybody up there smoking weed. If they
ain't going to work in a suit on Wall Street,
they're smoking weed. I mean, it's just crazy walking down
the sidewalk in the human excrement on the side of you.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You had to live there and smell that, you'd probably
be smoking weed too.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
The only other place I've ever been that's nastier than
there is New Orleans and New Orleans on Bourbon Street.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's getting nastier if this mayor gets elected. Guys, Trump
calls him a communist. That's because he is.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
He calls himself a communist pretty much when you say, oh,
I'm a Marxist, Okay, you're a communist, Well.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You're a socialist. You're worst in communist. Yeah, that's worse
in communism. Communism is the friendlier version of socialism. Socialism
is terrible, terrible, you know. Oh no, that's they killed that,
they kill people.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I did have one giant interruption to our trip up there.
We were going to go ride the Golden escalator at
Trump twery, and they had it all blocked off because
of the protest across the streets. So we had to
go kill a couple hours until the protesters got hot
and sweaty and tired, and and they finally left, and
then we got to go back and ride the escalator.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
You did, Oh yeah, you get a picture of it.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I don't know, probably I was riding the escalator, I
guess somebody. I think my wife took a picture of it.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I don't know. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Uh yeah, it's a there they protest some funding to
a suicide hot line got cut or something. Uh, a
suicide hot line funding got cut or everybody was about
to get cut, or there's.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
It's always there's something new being protested around the country
on any given day. You know. On one of the
later segments I did, I ran some new stats on
active shooter stuff. Getting ready to teach a class the
other day and and learn some stuff. And I'm coming
up next is the bottom of the hour segment doth
and so I'll save it for the third segment, and
we come back so that Tylah hasse thee audits and
everybody else can.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah. I didn't really experience any any rudeness or anything.
And they got some really cool museums up there. The
public Library Library in uh in d C. Or in
New York is amazing. And uh when I got the
Metropolitan Museum had a big art armor and weapons display
from swords and armor and stuff from all over the world.
(21:44):
It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
While can you have a sword in New York City?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
You can take one there, you just can't can't get it.
We'll be right back. I think I gotta work again.
Everybody out there is gonna be going, is this idiot.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
In your defense, which I don't do often. It is complicated.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It's juggling a couple of different things here. So we're recording, uh,
the video for YouTube and for whatever else. We put
it on Instagram and TikTok and all that kind of
stuff for the little shorts, and we're recording the audio
and a separate piece of software, and then and that
one's feet then and.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You got to put it all together.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's all all gotta work out, and the end, there's
a bunch of buttons works out. So here's what here's what.
Here's what makes it worse is that you know, and
then we have see and I have to click on
this over here if I want to change this that
then that didn't work, and then I probably.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Just they don't be messing with stuff over there if
it's actually working.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It looks like so when Grant's producing this show, not
only does he understand this better, but he's kind of
listening to us, but he's not really actively participating unless
he feels the need to jump in on something. He's
focusing on all this stuff to make sure everything's working right.
I'm trying to be part of the show. And look
at y'all, which is away from the computer. I need
(23:18):
to put me a mirror up over there and then
I can see everything back there.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
It's going to be backwards. And then you'll think, Well.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
If I set up two mirrors that reflect off of
each other and I get a little chrism set up
in here.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
They look like a fun house in here.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, well, if I see you in it, it will there's
a clown in the room.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I go with that.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
What kind of shirt are you wearing today?
Speaker 4 (23:41):
That's a shirt?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
What does it say? The players just got the players
run around advertising being a player. He'd like to be
a player. He tries to be a player.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
They got the open on right now.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I just like I like his hat and his shirt match.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I try to match.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Kind of sacks. Get on today.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I got flip flops?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Oh yeah, oh my lord, I ain't so your toes.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
You can't play golf and then flip flops, but you can.
You can't.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
They actually make Ola Kai makes a golf flip flop,
of course they do. Yeah, I think about get me
a pair?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah probably yeah they should.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Maybe you should, I mean, but you you kind of
want to have something to keep your ankles stabilized, you
know when you when you swing, So you got that
little twist.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Little twist, Yeah, keep the fire ants off your feet.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Well you're supposed to shift your your center of gravity
when you you follow through on your swing, you know,
correct and when you do it, it necessitates a twisting
of the.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
That's why I don't play no more because my back hurt.
It hurts my back.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
All that twisting, Well it'll it'll sometimes correct you back.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
You can hear it go crack. Yeah, when you got
a joints like mine, I mean because they're I've got.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
A yeah, weird body.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You think what was that Grossman said about it? Golf course?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Uh wasted a lot of land that could have been
a great shot.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Was a good waste of a perfect, good rifle range,
and says your ability to hit a golf ball three
hundred yards does not impress me. But to hit a
golf ball from three hundred yards does? I think I
can Depending on the rifle, I can hit a golf
ball from three hundred yards, but I can't hit one
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three hundred. I don't even know that. I tried to
play golf a little bit I went. I went playing
golf once. Well, I went swinging a golf club with
JD and Herb and some of those one time on
the FSU golf course. And by the end of the
thing I was drunk. I don't remember what was going on.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Charlie was mostly riding and drinking.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Yeah, we played.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Uh it's fun though. I enjoyed it. I even bought
some bought some golf clubs one time. Are in the attic.
I mean they were Walmart's finest, I mean, and it
was yeah, and uh it was. I would love to
be able to to do it, but at this point
in my life I have decided as one of the
many things that I'm just never going to accomplish. Me too.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
We I played up in Georgia and are these these
bucks in velvet? They were right there on the golf course.
I mean, these things were giant deer.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Said one of my plantation patrol guys went out the
other day and was looking at some deer on a
plantation and a high fence operation and that would be
a small one of the ones he saw and it
was like holy. He says, hey, I want to work
on I want to do this for a living. I'm like, yeah, no,
you don't get to shoot him. You just get the
garden buddy.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Buddy Stewart and is Austin and Austin his son went
up to our lease yesterday and they were doing some
clean up stuff around the feeders and what have you,
and saw a monster, absolute monster book up there at
our place. I'm kind of excited about all that ago,
waiting on my.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Insight, I ain't part of it. All right, we'll be
right back. So I was digging around in some d
OJ documents and FBI documents and all that, and I
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couldn't find the Epstein list, but I was found some
other stuffed Okay, they actually said that they came back
and confirmed that he did when they said the Trump administration,
So you know, based on the records that they were
able to find, I'm sure that's what they concluded, because
you know, they had plenty of time to clean that up.
I don't know, he probably did, but I don't care.
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He's gone.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
If he's dead, you don't care.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I don't think he's dead.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I don't care one way or the other. But what
I was, what I found. You know, we do a
lot of active shooter training I was putting together an
updated PowerPoint presentation because we do seminar after seminar after seminar,
go out to businesses and go to corporations, and we
do that and open. I hadn't had a lot of
demand up there, but in Tallahassee, we're constantly getting new
calls about it. But every now and then you locked
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that update your data, the statistics. You know what did
did somebody say lies damn and statistics? Yeah, So I
dug in and found a newer version. Every time I
do this, it talks about the trends and the trend
that's been going up for a number of years, more
of the number of active shooter incidents and the number
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of casualties until two years ago, and two years ago
there was a slight dip from the year before, So
twenty twenty four to twenty twenty three, there was a
little bit of a dip from twenty twenty two. But
we've been doing a lot of preparation around the country,
a lot of training, a lot of active shooter drills,
a lot of new attention to site security. And I
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can't say we're doing a lot better with mental health issues,
but there's a lot of things been happening in the
country to address these issues. Last year, in twenty twenty four,
there was about a fifty percent decrease in the number
of mass shootings, active shooter situations, and in the number
of casualties.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
What accounts for that, Well, what I just.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Said, I think it is largely preparation. I think it
is that more and more people are prepared and you
start to see the numbers, and you look at some
of the statistics, and about a quarter of the time
civilians intervening and stop these things.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
So let me ask you this, what statistic did you
look at the gun sale statistic? The number of new
gun owners?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, there are a lot of new gun owners. That
has slowed down a little bit in recent years. The
increase because things were getting violent. People were buying a
lot of guns. When a Republican administration comes in. JD
can attest to this. When we get a Trump administration
coming in, gun sales go down. Yeah, but think so yeah,
because people aren't panicking that they might not be able
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to buy an right, And I think you're fixing to
see an increase in the number of silencer sales because
they do it the way with two hundred dollars tax
comes to January, and that's just the way it's going
to be. People are gonna say, Okay, I can afford
them now. Still got to do the other stuff. The
tax down, but still so gun sales kind of when
you know there are more every year, more new guns
hit the market. Okay, more people are they're buying more
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and more guns. It's not necessarily always more people, but
there's more guns sold because sometimes it's the same dude
coming in buying more and more guns.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, you get that, and you get you also get
people becoming old enough.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
To be old enough, old enough to buy guns, and
people are old enough to become more conservative in their
views on guns because a lot of people who are
very liberal on the gun issue, meaning they don't like guns.
You know, I got small kids in the house, I
don't want guns around, or I don't believe in that,
I don't think I need a gun I can fight,
you know whatever. And then as they get older, they
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realize that, yeah, I can't do that anymore. And so
you start to find people that start to becoming as
people aids, they tend to become more conservative in a
lot of in a lot of ways. Not everybody, but
a lot of people do. I paid enough taxes. I
want a gun to protect myself. And they tend to
start leaning that way. They want more grandkids, so they
change on other issues. You know, I want you to
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keep them all that that kind of thing, and as
we get older, we just tend to lean that way.
And so, yeah, so you'll see people coming in for
their first gun ever.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
And then I had a guy come in the story yesterday,
long story short. He told me he had fought thirty
some odd sanctioned fights, boxing matches, yeah, in his life
as a day as a young man. And he looked
the part. I mean, he looked like one of those
people that you just don't want to mess with, you know. Still,
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he's probably older.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Than you, and I he carries himself that way.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Carries himself that way. He was like, yeah, you just
looking at you, sir. I'm sure not a lot of
panhandlers come up asking you for money.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
He goes, no.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
So, but he was coming in looking to buy his
first gun. Because he's in the conversation, you know, this
was like I feel like, he said, I'm singing a
church choir sometime I'm up there late at night at church,
and I want to be able to protect the people
around me. And I'm like, dude, you've got the sheep
dog mindset. We had this big, long conversation about it,
and uh, he's gonna take a class from us and
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learn because he doesn't know. He didn't grow up around guns.
But uh, but we see that. And you know, having
to be in New York where I there were places
I couldn't carry in New York, even with my credentials.
I'm fine in public, but when you get ready to
go into a museum that has a security they're a
private entity or whatever, they don't, you can't carry in there.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
What'd you do with it?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I didn't carry it that day. I see, I didn't
have it with it, didn't leave the motel with it
that day. I locked it up in the safe in
the most.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
So you had to check, like you everywhere you were.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yes, well that we went to the Yankees game, so
it couldn't carry there. There's so we have to you know,
you have to pick and choose.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I remember when he couldn't get on to the the
what's the dam? We went to Hoover Dam. Hoover Dam.
They wouldn't let him in with a gun because he
was retired law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I would even let me store my gun in their
gun storage locker for people that.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, I couldn't carry it either, but they had a
storage locker for me because I was still liked the
law enforcement.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
What'd you do with yours?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Gave it to him.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
We walked back out the gate. He gave it to me,
and I went in and signed in two guns. I
got my primary and this is my backup. And the
guy goes, okay, cool and let us go.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
You know, Yeah, that's the ridiculousness of some of this stuff.
But anyway, it's just one of those things where I,
you know, and you're on the subway where we rode
the subway some up there, not at night but in
the daytime. But even the daytime subway is a scary
place in New York, just saying, and I'm very aware
of the fact that I'm fifty seven years old and
crippled up and broke up or whatever else, So you
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start thinking about could I And most of the yeah,
most of the time, I say, yeah, I take that guy.
But every now and then you see this guy that
gets on there. This is acting a little squirrely. That's
just you know, jacked looks like a big bodybuilder. We
ran into one of those and I was like, guy,
that guy's a monster. He would pull my head off,
you know. I mean, it's just and you understand that
that gun is an equalizer for if that guy decided
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he wanted to go crazy and hurt me or my family,
you know, and I'm gonna have my hands full right there.
It's gonna take me and my wife and maybe some
other people to help. You know.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I tell you this, where I was fourth July, it's
almost like you had there were people open.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Carry, Yes, you were.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I was in Georgia at lec Oconey, and of course
you know, I had mine and my my belt behind me.
And but and I tell you this, I saw more
trunk flags around that place then you could shake a
stick out around boats. And I mean it was These
were about as conservative of folks as you could be.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Around h And you didn't have any problems either, not
a single problem.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Mass shootings that didn't have any mass shootings, didn't have
any arguments. Everybody's polite, uh beautiful place.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Hey, if somebody in a not gun free environment breaks out,
a gun and starts shooting. At least there's a high
likelihood that there's some other guns that can shoot back.
And I mean, it sucks that it happens, but at
least some I feel like I'm on equal footing. If
somebody breaks bad and wants to start doing in that
at least I can fight back. And you know the
thing is that people carry If you carry a firearm
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into a public place, you and you should have that right.
But don't forget you have the responsibility to be judicious
in your use of gunfire. Okay where you play those
bullets can cost an innocent person in their life. You
should train, You should get training. You should work on
your mindset, and you should do situational training. You should play,
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do role playing in your mind, and you should absolutely
spend some time at the range or in your backyard
or somewhere where you can shoot and then figure out
what your the limitations of your capabilities are. Because we've
got a minute Fredd like that. It confuses me, but
but you you need to You need to be able
to do that in an effective manner. And if you
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find out that you can't shoot somebody at ten or
fifteen or twenty yards, but you can at five yards. Well,
then you need to learn how to get closer to them.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
And that that that brings up question. I meant to
ask leant segment, but I didn't want to interrupt. Y'all
talked about this airplane carry training. You should have got
on an airplane that goes through and uh, it just FUSELI.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
It just makes a hole. It's not gonna blow the
plane up or anything. And pressurized noah, I mean it
would have a league. But they're they're they're constantly pumping
air into that thing to pressurize it. I think they
pulled air from the engines that goes into the cab
to keep the pressure. That'd be fine.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I was always wondering about that because I thought, well, man,
if he does.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
And the thing is is that people who carry, you know,
typically carry on the on a plane or trains and
that type of thing. The marshals are trained to deal
with that. Y'all holding up numbers, and I know we
run out of time. I can edit the show if
I need to, and I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Know that people, Yeah, we'll be back, we'll be back.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
It's a driving ac.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I'm sort of huglining and we're back. I'm looking at
the time of this segment's ten fifty. I just keep
thinking here. Lately, I've been thinking a lot in police codes.
That's the traffic stop you from back in the day.
Most of the most agencies. Now I go into plain language. Yeah,
And it confuses me because I started my wife the
other day and I said, yeah, sheriff gives me a radio,
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I'm gonna up using some codes because nobody gonna know
what you're talking about. Old school guys, will he goes
you have a dispatchers.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Want It just seems like every time you got over.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
There, don't you don't do we need a band aid
or anything you want to.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
He's definitely got some hooks.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Don't get them near me, you know again? Still summer.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Has it been hot? Was it hot up New York?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Yeah? Oh yeah, it was like eighty five and very hot.
It ain't hot for us, They hot for them, folks.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I'll tell you what I tell you if you went
in the winter time, because I spent almost I spent
about nine months up there in my early twenties working
for the phone company. And when it gets cold and
you step out between those buildings where the wind's blowing
through there.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
It's I tell you, them buildings are just that's an
amazing thing. I'm glad. I'm glad I got to see
all that. You ain't got to worry about me wanting
to go back.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Last time I was there, I went up into tower.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
They won't let you in the new well, we didn't
try to go in. I don't think they'll let you
in the new one World Trade Center. That's a big,
pretty building there. But we got to go in the
Memorial that was That was cool.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
That was cool what you got here.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I've got some baits that's been for the bass. This
has been working, especially right now. If you're going to
go fishing, go early and late.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I've been.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I've been in by ten o'clock in the mornings and
but there's the bike's been pretty good. They've been still
hitting the frogs like we talked about though on the
last time.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
But these baits, well, keep in mind you need to
describe them, describe it and name them.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Bad's at as big as me.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
That's a sixth sense. It's called a catwalk. And you
remember the oldest zeraspoop you has a walk in action.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's got three treble hooks.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Got three treble hooks on it. That's a bigg one.
They make all different sizes. Here's a strike, and you
see the difference this. You're the one that's been working
the best of smaller size. When it's still comes in three,
it's a medium size because they've got some small ones.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Even show them.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I notice you got them like bright white, almost shiny white.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah you don't.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I think a lot of colors catch fishermen. There's only
a few colors you really need to catch fish, but
that they make them in different sizes. But this has
been working for sure. And you want to work this
with a walt the dog action. And when you're throwing
these the walking bakes, I call them walking bakes that
covers all the spectrum. But you want to use braided
line at least a medium fast reel. You want at
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least seven to one seven three to one, so when
you're working it, one hits, it goes. A fish can
hit it and run ten feet to you, and you
got to catch up with them, and you want to
throw it on along the rod so he can get a.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Hook in them.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
You ever fish one of these thread Yeah, I have
not with much some of these.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Some of these they are great for early in the
morning down the coast.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
And red fit yep. Have had luck on those kind
of baits with uh with trout, red fish. And this
is a prop bait. I want to try to show
that up for people. This this bait works really good
if you want something a little bit smaller but sitting
in one's place. They see you're throwing over near log
or near over the top of some grass. You want
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to pop it and let sit and those blades kind
of prevent it from moving forward too much, and that
can draw.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Some and that's what looks like when they're they'll see
the little.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Working again.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
When they're not there, you know, we're kind of where
they're at, but they're not too aggressive. This will draw
up out up to it. And then of course the
old you remember these.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
JD of course, the middle of the day, you don't
this time of year, you don't even.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Want are now they can't you can't get on they
there's I think we're already starting to see up on
next someone on like hints of fish starting to feed
up for the fall. I know it sounds kind of weird.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
I don't know if you've a budget flying around lately.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Have you all been noticing that?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah? Yeah, But they live on a farm. There's always
does there's always and I raised grass in their seed
and there's constantly in there.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
And this is a pop aar remember the original rebel
pop r. And one thing I do about this is
when you really want to slow down, you just want
to make a chugging sound, just want to pop it.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
And that's got that big open mouth, so that catches
when you pull in there.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
That's right. And what I like to do, Charlie, is
I want to shave this. Here's a here's an original
one that hasn't been the lip has it been cut down,
So when you shave it, it'll make it split water
like a foot and two in front of it.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
That really draws them.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Can you are you catching anything top water in the
middle of the day.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
You can catch yeah, but it's not as of course
it's going to be as good in the morning. Right,
there's times during the day there's a little windows of
feeding opportunity with the shatter up and I've this past
week I caught some pretty nice ones on.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
On this uh that's called a that's a whopper plopper.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
That's a water plopper.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Tailspins on this.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
And that's just real and it's straight and kind of
like them frogs comes right straight back to you and
it man spinner baits.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
No, it's this, it's topwater bait. And last year I
took my daughter to Lake monkey business and she was
wanting to do well. She was she was brimfish. She
likes to sit there on the dock catch brim and uh.
I took a big long rod and whopper plopper and
the bass were schooling in the afternoon on late monkey
business and catching them on that off.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
But those baits have been this this time of year.
This is this will work all the way into the fall.
Right now far the bass, there's still some brim been
bedding up on like someone I know. I heard some
of the bedding on lake talking too, blue gill, blue
blue gill.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yep. Nice.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
This is the time of year to start throwing a beetlespin,
ta spin and.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Nothing better.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
I love man brim pound for pound or the fight
so much better. I mean, there's a tough fighting little fish.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
To catch on a two weight flyer, A little.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Small flyerle lightweight fly rod or an ultra light uh
spind caster or some kind of ultra light you know,
four pound test line and a rod that you can
about tie a nod in, you know, and get a
get a brim that weighs close to a pound on there,
big old copperhead blue bills they got in Lake Talquin stuff,
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fun stuff. Yeah, it was Uh. I went out and
did a skeet lessen or bird shooting and lessen shotgun
lesson this morning for a young man.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
Uh, I was like, what do you need lesson?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I was, did you didn't take one?
Speaker 3 (43:45):
I was helping this a little fill out and uh
he had been struggling, I guess in the dove field
and uh he just just started dove hunting with his family,
and uh do you help him out? Yeah? I figured
out real quick, like he was left eye dominant and
I've been shooting right that's uh his his his granddad
and his dad said they had both both done the
thing with him and thought he was right eye dominant.
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And I said, well, sometimes it just matters how you
give the instructions because he's probably closing one of his
eyes and looking at you through the eye he thought
that he was supposed.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
To be he now shooting off his left show.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
So we started him today shooting left handed. He hasn't
shot enough to where that's a huge transition. And I
had him breaking clays within about half a box of shells.
I had him consistently starting to break some clays, and uh,
his granddad was really happy, and uh, he was really happy.
And uh, so I'm looking forward to helping that young
man along his way. Yeah, just if for us, it
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would be a huge thing. If you had to make
you try to make me start shooting right handed at
this point in time in my life, it would be
a tough thing. But starting out just that little eye dominance, uh,
just determining his eye dominance and getting him shooting off.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
I had a friend man had that happen to him.
He start putting a dot on these yeah glasses.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah, and that's a cheat, that is a cheat. That
doesn't you you can do that. And it's like I
told this young man, I said, he said, well, I
do a little bit. I seem to hit them better
if I squint my eye. I squint my right eye
a little bit and name on my left. And I said, yeah,
that's the way you start and then get to start
working towards opening your eye. I'll have to it's really
I'll have to demonstrate it for you, Paul, but it's
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it's basically, if you make a small circle with your
with your hands and you put them out in front
of your face, and you look at an object through
through that hole in your hands, all right, and then
start slowly keep both eyes open, and you start pulling
your hands back towards your towards your face. That dot
if you keep whatever you're focused on off in the distance,
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if you keep that inside that circle on your hand,
keep pulling it back, and eventually you'll go to one
eye or the other. And it's is determining your eye dominance.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
If I'm doing it in a classroom environment, I'll just
have them point the finger at me and line up,
you know, line up their finger with my eye, and
I'll say, pointed this eye and they'll point at that
eye and I can tell just looking at them, okay,
your left eye dominant right out. Now, you know, you
can do it yourself the way JD described. But if
somebody I'm talking to them, I said, just point at me,
and they'll point at me really and then I'll look
(46:18):
and see if if you your left eye right now,
I'm looking on pointing at your left eye, that's right
all right? With my finger. Now, which eye of mind
do you see behind that finger?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
I'm looking at that one on that one over the side.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Well, then you're looking in your right eye, you're you're
in your wrong eye because I'm now close your right
eye all right? Now, which which one of my eyes
do you see lining up on my finger? This one
I'm right, I dominant. So you know, there's different ways
to do it as an instructor versus having them do it.
I've had people do that with the whole thing and
(46:50):
come back to the tip of their nose and I go,
you're you're the only what you're looking at.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
But I think it ain't right ambidextros.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yeah, well it is important thing. It's not so important
with a handgun. It really doesn't matter all that much
with a handgun. I dominance doesn't because because with a
handgun you can move your gun under your strong eye,
regardless of which hand you have around the grip. It
doesn't matter much. It matters a lot with a rifle,
or a shotgun. It matters even more with a shotgun
(47:19):
than it.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Does with the right And it really matters with a bow, yeah, a.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Bowl and arrow and a shotgun or the two things,
because you don't have a rear sight on your shotgun
other than your cheek.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Well, how many times you run across somebody that is
right handed?
Speaker 3 (47:35):
I'm that guy.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
It happens. It's very regular.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
I'm not left handed. I just shoot left handed.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Ever since he was a kid. All right, guess we're
right of town. All right, See y'all next time.
And welcome to the Town out Door Show. I'm Charlie.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'd got to Paul Tyre had Fred.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
All right, here we go. So anybody that tried to
listen last week's show, or the week before show or
any of that stuff, I apologize. The last show was
a rerun because I just totally fumbled. Yeah, I fumbled
the ball big time, and then the week before it
had some moments where it was messed up. So in
(00:31):
Grant's absence, I have been struggling. I'm beyond my capabilities
as a technical person here trying to manipulate all this
equipment and software. I've been thinking really hard for it,
about just giving this to Jade.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
To I can fix all that with a big old hammer.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
We just get on the phone and press record and
all standing around the phone and talk on speakerphone. JD
you're the one that came up with. When Paul's out
in the field and we're trying to do all this
advanced technology and do all this calling stuff and software
and all this stuff, you said, well, let me just
call him on the phone and put him on the
speakerphone and see if it works. And it works fine.
(01:08):
I mean, sometimes simple is best sometimes we're trying to
come up with something simple. We go to j D
and go, what's what's the easiest way to do this?
I do over complicate things. And I've been listening. I'm
hopefully this show turned out all right and Fred won't
wasting an hour of his time and several really bad
jokes trying to He.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Looks like he's got a golf game this afternoon. World
you live in here, go to play golf, ain't you.
Well it ain't raining.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
If it ain't raining, I'll probably go out there.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
How many holy ones you hit? I've hit two in
my lifetime in the past year. Yeah, the past year.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Last year. I came real close the other day.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Close on the counts.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Three three foot from the three foot from the hole,
and three free footed.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
That's why I hate golf.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I think the putter I threw it as long as
my drive.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
By the time I was over.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
With that's when I wit playing golf. When it gave.
When I was having to replace shafts on the golf
club from breaking them over monday.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
It's uh the most frustrating game. Yeah, you know, and
you think about it. All you're doing is trying to put.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
A hole, a ball in a hole.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
It's like.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Have you ever heard the Robin Williams thing from comedy
Skid about golf. It's bad language, but it's a yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
So, uh, I don't know if y'all saw this, but
the guy that took his mistress to the Coldplay concert?
Have you have you seen that on the news?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, he's all hugging and loving, and all of a
sudden they pant up there. He tries to get real
small and crawl up under the chair.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
And did you see the look on the mistress's face?
It was like a ship.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, that was funny.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You know, that's just word of the wise. Don't take
your mistress to the Coldplay concert. Frankly, I think the
wife sheld has grounds for divorce just for him going
to a cold Play.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well it wasn't Nickelback, but I mean, you know, cold boy.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
But I always take my missas whatever the Pitt bull
dog fights because they don't have a jumbo trod there,
and uh mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
She likes them.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Uh huh. So I saw something where I don't know
it was. Maybe it was a meme or a joke
or something about her being in HR at the company yes,
she's the H person. Man.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
He was like the head hancho and she's HR head
And yeah, they got some explaining.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
They they got lots of And the wife who you know,
thought her husband was traveling on business, apparently they found
her on Facebook. She's immediately taking her husband's name off
of her profile.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
So he's a lot of truck and he's the trouble boy.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Most prenups are invalid if there's an adultrey she's uh,
so that wife is getting ready to have a nice,
nice beach house.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I saw, I saw. I saw a thing where it
said a meme where it says, you know, mom, how
did we get so rich? And because your dad slept
with the HR? And I got half of stuff. So
I was doing it talking about HR. I was doing
a tour and a threat assessment this week and I
was talking to an HR director at at a facility
(04:22):
and she said, I said, well, you know, where's the
office and assistant and how do you determinations and blah
blah blah blah this kind of stuff. Part of what
I do is, you know, when you determinations, make sure
that there's a plan in policies and and I said, uh,
you know when they as well, it's never a surprise
typically And I said, well, yeah, I said, I as
(04:42):
I anytime HR would call you know, if I got
called to HR, I know what's happening. And she goes,
what do you mean? I said, okay, So, especially in
a facility where it's some majority of women working there,
anytime a CIS gendered, straight white male with a Southern accent, yeah,
gets called HR, it ain't good. There's not a good
(05:05):
reason to call me to HR. SIS gendered means.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Straight, Fred, Okay, I was wondering about that.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, you're allegedly you're CIS as well.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I'm not a CIS.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
No you, Well, then I'm glad you came out of
the closet for us.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I mean I thought CIS was like a dude that
wore were women's clothes.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
No, No, the CIS gendered is straight.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Okay, well that's that. I'm that.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Okay, then you are SIS.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
He's a dude, acting like a dude, dressed up like
a dude.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I'm first, I don't know where do these names go.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I don't know. They just make this stuff up. They
play scrabble and say, okay, let's call him that.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, they everybody has that terminology for something. I mean
now now that one of the simplest types of terminology
to learn and j D. And I've been teaching this
for a long time is gun parts. Okay, because is
when like when we are teaching firearms, we go, okay,
this thing that this thing, this part that shaped like
(06:09):
a barrel that the bullet goes down, that's called what
j D a barrel barrel. And the sight at the
front's called what the front side, and the sight of
the rear is called okay. And the and the thing
that triggers the mechanism when you pull it, and the
thing that you hold with your hand like grip your
hands caught, yeah, and so uh. And the thing that
hits the back of the primer like a hammer hits
(06:30):
a nail firing pin or hammer right right on a revolver,
it's a hammer. And and and the pin that fires
the on a semi auto.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Revolvers also have firing pins. Some of them some of
them are built into the hammer, some of them are
in the gun.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And if you've got several parts put together, like on
AR fifteen's, you have a bolt you have and in
that bolt, well, the bolt is just a bolt, but
then you have some other parts on the bolt, like
an extractor which does what extracts the brass uh huh.
And then nearby that there's ejector. There's an ejector, and
then the bolt there's actual an ejector and an ejection
(07:06):
and then but all of that put together, it's called
an assembly. You see, have the bolt assembly, and then
the thing that carries the boat back and forth in
the AR fifteen is called what called what bolt carrier?
Bolt carrier assembly, Yes, and it's got a gas key
on top and that and then what does that key do?
What comes through that key gas gas? And then that
(07:27):
tube that the gas comes through is called yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's why gas tube comes from the gas block and
then comes through the gas port right right right anyway,
I don't know if it means anything not, Charlie, but
the little do hicky on the screen ain't making no
wiggly squigglies over there anyway, But them thoator wrench in it.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
That ain't good at all. Well we'll do with the
well only was it doing it at all during the show,
I don't know I was and it weren't doing it.
We got audio over here.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
On the I was looking at you, noticing, just apparently.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Making sure we all that really good content. Who's on?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
We all looking over my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, I was looking at your beard. It looked like
you've done something.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
All right, So the what we got y'all got me confused.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Now I don't think hold.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
On, it's still working. Yeah it is, now was it recording?
Uh well, we'll go back at the end of this segment.
We'll figure it out. I told y'all, I told y'all,
so I think on the way this stuff works, as
I can drag this stuff from the video over to
the audio and uh so, now you're on the break,
(08:42):
I'll get to wait a few minutes and see if
I can figure.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Out what I'm Oh joy, I can see the time.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, yeah, thank you for reminding me about the timer.
Got a kind of stuff you need to come back
to work.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
You just got back from New York.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I just got back from New York City, and I
got to tell you all about all the wonderful things
I saw.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know, RA found sets up there. Huh you found
a cis.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Oh, A lot of sisters up there, A lot of
a lot of a lot of a lot of a
lot of weeds.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Weed smoking sists.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Good, gosh, almighty, I have never The only place I've
ever any comparable to that is Las Vegas that I've
been to. It's just that's all you smell. Well, that
ain't all you smell. That ain't all you smell. There's
other things. And now you don't see that. In Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
People aren't pooping on sidewalk.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I saw no, no less than four spots where somebody
had just I guess been had to go down right
on the sidewalk. Four arrangements, yes, for four floral arrangements
on the sidewalks up there in four or five, six
days of walking around. But it gets see some cool
stuff too. But uh, now we had fun. I gotta
(09:47):
tell you about my my airport, my airport experience.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
We'll be back in yeah, amber back.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I think I was gonna Paul ask a question on
the break. He says, so you carry a gun? Did
you carry gun with you New York?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah? I carried a gun with in New.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
York, said to my wife. We but yeah, you have
to pack it in your luggage unless you're under unless
you're under orders as a law enforcement officer to and
on the job. Say you had to travel somewhere as
a cop to they'll let you on the plane carry
in the gun. If you're transporting a prisoner or whatever else.
You can fly while armed. There's a class you have
to attend. Charlie and I booth been to the Flying
(10:37):
while armed class and all that stuff. But if because
I'm I'm not a police officer anymore, not a law
enforcement officer anymore. My wife still is. But she wasn't
on official business. So we had to check our guns
in the into our luggage. Anytime you fly with the gun,
and it's it's it's crazy how different the cultures are.
We left out of We flew out of Panama City,
(10:57):
and uh the tickets for a whole lot cheaper than
tallah See. And Uh anyway, and there were four of us,
so we had enough sky miles for all all of
us to go out of Panama City. We'd had to
pay money to fly to Tallahassee. Crazy. So anyway, it's
worth a two hour drive over there. It's nice airport.
This little lady, little old lady, I say, old lady.
She's probably older than I am, but she's A little
(11:18):
old lady was at the ticket office or the counter
there where I went to check my bags in going
to New York. And I said, just, ma'am, I got
a couple of guns in here and there there in
the case whatever. And she goes, well, go ahead and
get your case out and you know whatever. And she's
sitting there talking everything, how y'all doing today, and blah
blah blah. It's nice thing being opened up thing up
and said there's there's the two guns in there. And
(11:38):
she goes, where's your bullets, you know? And uh, I
said they're in the other box. And I opened the
thing up, show her the show the amo boxing that
closed it back up, and she's all right, just sign
right here and off we go. Just that easy. Where
it's supposed to be is yeah, where it's supposed to be.
So I locked everything up. Off we go, get on
the airplane flight to New York. It's been the get
(11:59):
to New York, so usually depending on what airportran, but
mostly all of them now they don't put that suitcase
with the gun in it. They don't put it on
the carousel when you go into the pick up your
luggage with everybody else they isolate it and you have
to go to an office or somewhere to pick your
luggage up. So get to New York, wife and everybody
(12:21):
get their bags off the carousel. I go to some
security guards standing there and I say, Hey, where do
I need to go pick up my bag? Because it's
got guns in it and I know I got to
go somewhere special to pick it up. And he kind
of gets this perplexed look on his face. He said,
you've got guns in it. I'm like, yeah, I flew
up here with guns. Uh, well, it'll be that those
(12:42):
set of doors over there, the double doors over there.
I'm like, okay, he didn't come with me. And I
walk over there the double doors, knock on the door,
Lady comes out, here's your bag. Do you have your
driver's license with you?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Show me a driver's license, show them my claim ticket
for the luggage that they gave me. I walk off,
go getting to go care to cab, spend the week
in New York. No, no other just just that simple,
except that they had taken my suitcase and had put
these big tie flex cuffs, the big wire ties, big
(13:15):
huge wire ties.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Have a pocket knife on you at the time because.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
My pocket knife was where it was locked up in
the case, in the suitcase, so so you can't get
to my guns. For the hour long, forty five minute
taxi ride from from La Guardia Airport to the Financial
District in Lower Manhattan Island, I got to go through
Brooklyn or Queens or wherever we went through to get there,
(13:40):
you know, all these anyway, So but they had zip
tied my the scissor had zip tied the the zipper
tabs together and put a big giant zip tie thing
around the whole bag, so you can't I can't open
the bag at all, even.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Though the I did that in talahassee you in New York.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I'm don't know. Probably happened in Panama City, probably happened
on the way out, but anyway, irrelevant. I got to
the motel and got can I borrow your scissors please?
And you know, cut them off, and no problem. We
go do our thing, get ready to leave, get back
to the Guardia airport, checking in the luggage. I go
up to the ticket counter and this guy's standing there
(14:23):
and I said, yeah, I need to check these. I
check my bags in and I'm gonna check this bag
and I said, and there's some guns in there. I
need to get checking out notify you that I'm having
flying my guns. And they're checking the bag and they're
unloaded and they're locked in separate boxes and blah blah blah.
He goes, did you did you say guns? I said, yeah,
there's two of them, mine in hers and he goes, uh,
(14:46):
you got guns. I'm like, yeah, dude, they're locked up
in a lock box and a t s a approved
lock box in my luggage. Do you want me to
get them out? And he just gets into this panic
and he goes a hold on just a minute, and
he picks up the phone. He calls the police, the
airport port authority police and says, I've got a guy
(15:08):
here with guns and he's flying with guns. And I'm like,
please tell them the guns are not loaded, and I'm
letting you know I have them, and I'm just trying
to get on the airplane to go back to Dixie,
to go back south of the amazing Dixon line. And
I you know, I'm a cop ears I got my
ears By credentials, and I'm trying to show this kid
that's in the panic at this point, and uh, so
(15:30):
he goes, you're gonna have to wait here, and I said, okay,
well where I said, I need to sign the card?
Where's the paperwork for me to fill out to put
put in the bag? And he finally digs around and
finds the big orange tag that you have to sign
saying the guns are unloaded. He'd never seen that before anyway,
So he goes, you'll have to wait here. I'm like,
(15:51):
what are we waiting on? He goes, I'm waiting on
the Port Authority Police to get here. I said, I
don't know. Well we waited, and forty five minutes later,
thankfully we had gotten to the airport two hours early.
So thirty to forty five minutes later, finally the Port
Authority Police show up. I show them my credentials, which
they promptly begin to take pictures of with their camera.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Why.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I don't know, Fred, I'm not a cop up there.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Put him in the database. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Then they walk us away from the counter and they
take me alone, my family standing out there. We go
into a room where they make me open the boxes
and they take my guns out, which are unloaded, and
check the make sure that they're unloaded. And look at
all the look at my AMMO box and all this
other stuff. Take pictures of my serial numbers on my guns.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
What'd you have?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Uh? SIG three sixty five and a clock forty three. Uh.
So they take pictures of the serial numbers on the guns,
take pictures of my credentials, take pictures of my driver's license,
ask for my phone number, asked for my all my stuff,
and I'm like, my address is on there on the
driver's lives guys. I was like, I'm leaving New York.
(17:07):
I have been in New York for a week. If
you're worried about catching bad guys, y'all might want to
go to them double doors over there by the carousel
and wait on somebody to come pick their bag up
because the cat has done got out of the bag.
If I'm a bad guy, you know it's it's and
I the lady. They were super nice. The cops up
(17:33):
there were super nice. They were very polite, very cordially
all this, and I I finally I was talking with
them and everything was cool with them. They were just
as good as everybody was nice. It wasn't It wasn't
like a we've had some not so great interactions at
airports in the past. I wasn't in a rush this
time because you know, we weren't going to miss our plane,
(17:55):
because I told my wife, I said, we need to
get there at least two hours early, just because because
of this. And I kind of had a suspicion. But
they were super nice, and I said, yeah, I said,
just this example of how different the culture is between
down here and up there is a little old lady,
no exaggeration, a little old lady check me in all
(18:18):
by herself in pennsylclar and Panama City Beach Airport. It
was just as nice as she could be, you what,
and the least bit flustered or nervous or any of
that stuff. And then you get up there with an
adult male guy that you default, his panties got all
in a wad.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
He probably had them on.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
In the behind the counter up there over somebody. And
I finally I looked at him, I said, buddy, just
so you know, bad guys that are gonna do something
bad with a gun, I ain't gonna tell you they
have it. And go up there and you know they're
not gonna tell you who they are. And here's my
driver's license, and here's my stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
The only time he's gonna tell you he's got a gun,
it's gonna have a note that says give me some money.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, exactly, And that's you know.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
What kind of doesn't even have a gun when he
says it.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
But uh so, the people that yes, said du the
people that come up here with them locked up in
a case and tell you they have them, ain't the
ones you need to be worried about. But it's just
a it's a it's a very huge, very big cultural difference. Now,
I'll say this. We you know, we spent a lot
of time. We walked eight to ten miles a day
every day up there in New York. And other than
(19:25):
it being the second most nasty place I've ever been
and the weed smell being so bad, I mean, because
it's just unbelievably everybody up there smoking weed. If they
ain't going to work in a suit on Wall Street,
they're smoking weed. I mean, it's just crazy walking down
the sidewalk in the human excrement on the side of you.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You had to live there and smell that, you'd probably
be smoking weed too.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
The only other place I've ever been that's nastier than
there is New Orleans and New Orleans on Bourbon Street.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's getting nastier if this mayor gets elected. Guys, Trump
calls him a communist. That's because he is.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
He calls himself a communist pretty much when you say, oh,
I'm a Marxist, Okay, you're a communist, Well.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You're a socialist. You're worst in communist. Yeah, that's worse
in communism. Communism is the friendlier version of socialism. Socialism
is terrible, terrible, you know. Oh no, that's they killed that,
they kill people.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I did have one giant interruption to our trip up there.
We were going to go ride the Golden escalator at
Trump twery, and they had it all blocked off because
of the protest across the streets. So we had to
go kill a couple hours until the protesters got hot
and sweaty and tired, and and they finally left, and
then we got to go back and ride the escalator.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
You did, Oh yeah, you get a picture of it.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I don't know, probably I was riding the escalator, I
guess somebody. I think my wife took a picture of it.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I don't know. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Uh yeah, it's a there they protest some funding to
a suicide hot line got cut or something. Uh, a
suicide hot line funding got cut or everybody was about
to get cut, or there's.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
It's always there's something new being protested around the country
on any given day. You know. On one of the
later segments I did, I ran some new stats on
active shooter stuff. Getting ready to teach a class the
other day and and learn some stuff. And I'm coming
up next is the bottom of the hour segment doth
and so I'll save it for the third segment, and
we come back so that Tylah hasse thee audits and
everybody else can.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah. I didn't really experience any any rudeness or anything.
And they got some really cool museums up there. The
public Library Library in uh in d C. Or in
New York is amazing. And uh when I got the
Metropolitan Museum had a big art armor and weapons display
from swords and armor and stuff from all over the world.
(21:44):
It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
While can you have a sword in New York City?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
You can take one there, you just can't can't get it.
We'll be right back. I think I gotta work again.
Everybody out there is gonna be going, is this idiot.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
In your defense, which I don't do often. It is complicated.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It's juggling a couple of different things here. So we're recording, uh,
the video for YouTube and for whatever else. We put
it on Instagram and TikTok and all that kind of
stuff for the little shorts, and we're recording the audio
and a separate piece of software, and then and that
one's feet then and.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You got to put it all together.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's all all gotta work out, and the end, there's
a bunch of buttons works out. So here's what here's what.
Here's what makes it worse is that you know, and
then we have see and I have to click on
this over here if I want to change this that
then that didn't work, and then I probably.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Just they don't be messing with stuff over there if
it's actually working.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It looks like so when Grant's producing this show, not
only does he understand this better, but he's kind of
listening to us, but he's not really actively participating unless
he feels the need to jump in on something. He's
focusing on all this stuff to make sure everything's working right.
I'm trying to be part of the show. And look
at y'all, which is away from the computer. I need
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to put me a mirror up over there and then
I can see everything back there.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
It's going to be backwards. And then you'll think, Well.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
If I set up two mirrors that reflect off of
each other and I get a little chrism set up
in here.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
They look like a fun house in here.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, well, if I see you in it, it will there's
a clown in the room.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I go with that.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
What kind of shirt are you wearing today?
Speaker 4 (23:41):
That's a shirt?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
What does it say? The players just got the players
run around advertising being a player. He'd like to be
a player. He tries to be a player.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
They got the open on right now.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I just like I like his hat and his shirt match.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I try to match.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Kind of sacks. Get on today.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I got flip flops?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Oh yeah, oh my lord, I ain't so your toes.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
You can't play golf and then flip flops, but you can.
You can't.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
They actually make Ola Kai makes a golf flip flop,
of course they do. Yeah, I think about get me
a pair?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah probably yeah they should.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Maybe you should, I mean, but you you kind of
want to have something to keep your ankles stabilized, you
know when you when you swing, So you got that
little twist.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Little twist, Yeah, keep the fire ants off your feet.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Well you're supposed to shift your your center of gravity
when you you follow through on your swing, you know,
correct and when you do it, it necessitates a twisting
of the.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
That's why I don't play no more because my back hurt.
It hurts my back.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
All that twisting, Well it'll it'll sometimes correct you back.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
You can hear it go crack. Yeah, when you got
a joints like mine, I mean because they're I've got.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
A yeah, weird body.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You think what was that Grossman said about it? Golf course?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Uh wasted a lot of land that could have been
a great shot.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Was a good waste of a perfect, good rifle range,
and says your ability to hit a golf ball three
hundred yards does not impress me. But to hit a
golf ball from three hundred yards does? I think I
can Depending on the rifle, I can hit a golf
ball from three hundred yards, but I can't hit one
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three hundred. I don't even know that. I tried to
play golf a little bit I went. I went playing
golf once. Well, I went swinging a golf club with
JD and Herb and some of those one time on
the FSU golf course. And by the end of the
thing I was drunk. I don't remember what was going on.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Charlie was mostly riding and drinking.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Yeah, we played.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Uh it's fun though. I enjoyed it. I even bought
some bought some golf clubs one time. Are in the attic.
I mean they were Walmart's finest, I mean, and it
was yeah, and uh it was. I would love to
be able to to do it, but at this point
in my life I have decided as one of the
many things that I'm just never going to accomplish. Me too.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
We I played up in Georgia and are these these
bucks in velvet? They were right there on the golf course.
I mean, these things were giant deer.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Said one of my plantation patrol guys went out the
other day and was looking at some deer on a
plantation and a high fence operation and that would be
a small one of the ones he saw and it
was like holy. He says, hey, I want to work
on I want to do this for a living. I'm like, yeah, no,
you don't get to shoot him. You just get the
garden buddy.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Buddy Stewart and is Austin and Austin his son went
up to our lease yesterday and they were doing some
clean up stuff around the feeders and what have you,
and saw a monster, absolute monster book up there at
our place. I'm kind of excited about all that ago,
waiting on my.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Insight, I ain't part of it. All right, we'll be
right back. So I was digging around in some d
OJ documents and FBI documents and all that, and I
(27:14):
couldn't find the Epstein list, but I was found some
other stuffed Okay, they actually said that they came back
and confirmed that he did when they said the Trump administration,
So you know, based on the records that they were
able to find, I'm sure that's what they concluded, because
you know, they had plenty of time to clean that up.
I don't know, he probably did, but I don't care.
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He's gone.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
If he's dead, you don't care.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I don't think he's dead.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I don't care one way or the other. But what
I was, what I found. You know, we do a
lot of active shooter training I was putting together an
updated PowerPoint presentation because we do seminar after seminar after seminar,
go out to businesses and go to corporations, and we
do that and open. I hadn't had a lot of
demand up there, but in Tallahassee, we're constantly getting new
calls about it. But every now and then you locked
(27:59):
that update your data, the statistics. You know what did
did somebody say lies damn and statistics? Yeah, So I
dug in and found a newer version. Every time I
do this, it talks about the trends and the trend
that's been going up for a number of years, more
of the number of active shooter incidents and the number
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of casualties until two years ago, and two years ago
there was a slight dip from the year before, So
twenty twenty four to twenty twenty three, there was a
little bit of a dip from twenty twenty two. But
we've been doing a lot of preparation around the country,
a lot of training, a lot of active shooter drills,
a lot of new attention to site security. And I
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can't say we're doing a lot better with mental health issues,
but there's a lot of things been happening in the
country to address these issues. Last year, in twenty twenty four,
there was about a fifty percent decrease in the number
of mass shootings, active shooter situations, and in the number
of casualties.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
What accounts for that, Well, what I just.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Said, I think it is largely preparation. I think it
is that more and more people are prepared and you
start to see the numbers, and you look at some
of the statistics, and about a quarter of the time
civilians intervening and stop these things.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
So let me ask you this, what statistic did you
look at the gun sale statistic? The number of new
gun owners?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, there are a lot of new gun owners. That
has slowed down a little bit in recent years. The
increase because things were getting violent. People were buying a
lot of guns. When a Republican administration comes in. JD
can attest to this. When we get a Trump administration
coming in, gun sales go down. Yeah, but think so yeah,
because people aren't panicking that they might not be able
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to buy an right, And I think you're fixing to
see an increase in the number of silencer sales because
they do it the way with two hundred dollars tax
comes to January, and that's just the way it's going
to be. People are gonna say, Okay, I can afford
them now. Still got to do the other stuff. The
tax down, but still so gun sales kind of when
you know there are more every year, more new guns
hit the market. Okay, more people are they're buying more
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and more guns. It's not necessarily always more people, but
there's more guns sold because sometimes it's the same dude
coming in buying more and more guns.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah, you get that, and you get you also get
people becoming old enough.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
To be old enough, old enough to buy guns, and
people are old enough to become more conservative in their
views on guns because a lot of people who are
very liberal on the gun issue, meaning they don't like guns.
You know, I got small kids in the house, I
don't want guns around, or I don't believe in that,
I don't think I need a gun I can fight,
you know whatever. And then as they get older, they
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realize that, yeah, I can't do that anymore. And so
you start to find people that start to becoming as
people aids, they tend to become more conservative in a
lot of in a lot of ways. Not everybody, but
a lot of people do. I paid enough taxes. I
want a gun to protect myself. And they tend to
start leaning that way. They want more grandkids, so they
change on other issues. You know, I want you to
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keep them all that that kind of thing, and as
we get older, we just tend to lean that way.
And so, yeah, so you'll see people coming in for
their first gun ever.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
And then I had a guy come in the story yesterday,
long story short. He told me he had fought thirty
some odd sanctioned fights, boxing matches, yeah, in his life
as a day as a young man. And he looked
the part. I mean, he looked like one of those
people that you just don't want to mess with, you know. Still,
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he's probably older.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Than you, and I he carries himself that way.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Carries himself that way. He was like, yeah, you just
looking at you, sir. I'm sure not a lot of
panhandlers come up asking you for money.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
He goes, no.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
So, but he was coming in looking to buy his
first gun. Because he's in the conversation, you know, this
was like I feel like, he said, I'm singing a
church choir sometime I'm up there late at night at church,
and I want to be able to protect the people
around me. And I'm like, dude, you've got the sheep
dog mindset. We had this big, long conversation about it,
and uh, he's gonna take a class from us and
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learn because he doesn't know. He didn't grow up around guns.
But uh, but we see that. And you know, having
to be in New York where I there were places
I couldn't carry in New York, even with my credentials.
I'm fine in public, but when you get ready to
go into a museum that has a security they're a
private entity or whatever, they don't, you can't carry in there.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
What'd you do with it?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I didn't carry it that day. I see, I didn't
have it with it, didn't leave the motel with it
that day. I locked it up in the safe in
the most.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
So you had to check, like you everywhere you were.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yes, well that we went to the Yankees game, so
it couldn't carry there. There's so we have to you know,
you have to pick and choose.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I remember when he couldn't get on to the the
what's the dam? We went to Hoover Dam. Hoover Dam.
They wouldn't let him in with a gun because he
was retired law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I would even let me store my gun in their
gun storage locker for people that.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, I couldn't carry it either, but they had a
storage locker for me because I was still liked the
law enforcement.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
What'd you do with yours?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Gave it to him.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
We walked back out the gate. He gave it to me,
and I went in and signed in two guns. I
got my primary and this is my backup. And the
guy goes, okay, cool and let us go.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
You know, Yeah, that's the ridiculousness of some of this stuff.
But anyway, it's just one of those things where I,
you know, and you're on the subway where we rode
the subway some up there, not at night but in
the daytime. But even the daytime subway is a scary
place in New York, just saying, and I'm very aware
of the fact that I'm fifty seven years old and
crippled up and broke up or whatever else, So you
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start thinking about could I And most of the yeah,
most of the time, I say, yeah, I take that guy.
But every now and then you see this guy that
gets on there. This is acting a little squirrely. That's
just you know, jacked looks like a big bodybuilder. We
ran into one of those and I was like, guy,
that guy's a monster. He would pull my head off,
you know. I mean, it's just and you understand that
that gun is an equalizer for if that guy decided
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he wanted to go crazy and hurt me or my family,
you know, and I'm gonna have my hands full right there.
It's gonna take me and my wife and maybe some
other people to help. You know.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I tell you this, where I was fourth July, it's
almost like you had there were people open.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Carry, Yes, you were.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I was in Georgia at lec Oconey, and of course
you know, I had mine and my my belt behind me.
And but and I tell you this, I saw more
trunk flags around that place then you could shake a
stick out around boats. And I mean it was These
were about as conservative of folks as you could be.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Around h And you didn't have any problems either, not
a single problem.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Mass shootings that didn't have any mass shootings, didn't have
any arguments. Everybody's polite, uh beautiful place.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Hey, if somebody in a not gun free environment breaks out,
a gun and starts shooting. At least there's a high
likelihood that there's some other guns that can shoot back.
And I mean, it sucks that it happens, but at
least some I feel like I'm on equal footing. If
somebody breaks bad and wants to start doing in that
at least I can fight back. And you know the
thing is that people carry If you carry a firearm
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into a public place, you and you should have that right.
But don't forget you have the responsibility to be judicious
in your use of gunfire. Okay where you play those
bullets can cost an innocent person in their life. You
should train, You should get training. You should work on
your mindset, and you should do situational training. You should play,
(35:28):
do role playing in your mind, and you should absolutely
spend some time at the range or in your backyard
or somewhere where you can shoot and then figure out
what your the limitations of your capabilities are. Because we've
got a minute Fredd like that. It confuses me, but
but you you need to You need to be able
to do that in an effective manner. And if you
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find out that you can't shoot somebody at ten or
fifteen or twenty yards, but you can at five yards. Well,
then you need to learn how to get closer to them.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
And that that that brings up question. I meant to
ask leant segment, but I didn't want to interrupt. Y'all
talked about this airplane carry training. You should have got
on an airplane that goes through and uh, it just FUSELI.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
It just makes a hole. It's not gonna blow the
plane up or anything. And pressurized noah, I mean it
would have a league. But they're they're they're constantly pumping
air into that thing to pressurize it. I think they
pulled air from the engines that goes into the cab
to keep the pressure. That'd be fine.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I was always wondering about that because I thought, well, man,
if he does.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
And the thing is is that people who carry, you know,
typically carry on the on a plane or trains and
that type of thing. The marshals are trained to deal
with that. Y'all holding up numbers, and I know we
run out of time. I can edit the show if
I need to, and I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Know that people, Yeah, we'll be back, we'll be back.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
It's a driving ac.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I'm sort of huglining and we're back. I'm looking at
the time of this segment's ten fifty. I just keep
thinking here. Lately, I've been thinking a lot in police codes.
That's the traffic stop you from back in the day.
Most of the most agencies. Now I go into plain language. Yeah,
And it confuses me because I started my wife the
other day and I said, yeah, sheriff gives me a radio,
(37:23):
I'm gonna up using some codes because nobody gonna know
what you're talking about. Old school guys, will he goes
you have a dispatchers.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Want It just seems like every time you got over.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
There, don't you don't do we need a band aid
or anything you want to.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
He's definitely got some hooks.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Don't get them near me, you know again? Still summer.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Has it been hot? Was it hot up New York?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Yeah? Oh yeah, it was like eighty five and very hot.
It ain't hot for us, They hot for them, folks.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I'll tell you what I tell you if you went
in the winter time, because I spent almost I spent
about nine months up there in my early twenties working
for the phone company. And when it gets cold and
you step out between those buildings where the wind's blowing
through there.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
It's I tell you, them buildings are just that's an
amazing thing. I'm glad. I'm glad I got to see
all that. You ain't got to worry about me wanting
to go back.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Last time I was there, I went up into tower.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
They won't let you in the new well, we didn't
try to go in. I don't think they'll let you
in the new one World Trade Center. That's a big,
pretty building there. But we got to go in the
Memorial that was That was cool.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
That was cool what you got here.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I've got some baits that's been for the bass. This
has been working, especially right now. If you're going to
go fishing, go early and late.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I've been.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I've been in by ten o'clock in the mornings and
but there's the bike's been pretty good. They've been still
hitting the frogs like we talked about though on the
last time.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
But these baits, well, keep in mind you need to
describe them, describe it and name them.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Bad's at as big as me.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
That's a sixth sense. It's called a catwalk. And you
remember the oldest zeraspoop you has a walk in action.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's got three treble hooks.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Got three treble hooks on it. That's a bigg one.
They make all different sizes. Here's a strike, and you
see the difference this. You're the one that's been working
the best of smaller size. When it's still comes in three,
it's a medium size because they've got some small ones.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Even show them.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I notice you got them like bright white, almost shiny white.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah you don't.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I think a lot of colors catch fishermen. There's only
a few colors you really need to catch fish, but
that they make them in different sizes. But this has
been working for sure. And you want to work this
with a walt the dog action. And when you're throwing
these the walking bakes, I call them walking bakes that
covers all the spectrum. But you want to use braided
line at least a medium fast reel. You want at
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least seven to one seven three to one, so when
you're working it, one hits, it goes. A fish can
hit it and run ten feet to you, and you
got to catch up with them, and you want to
throw it on along the rod so he can get a.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Hook in them.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
You ever fish one of these thread Yeah, I have
not with much some of these.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Some of these they are great for early in the
morning down the coast.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
And red fit yep. Have had luck on those kind
of baits with uh with trout, red fish. And this
is a prop bait. I want to try to show
that up for people. This this bait works really good
if you want something a little bit smaller but sitting
in one's place. They see you're throwing over near log
or near over the top of some grass. You want
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to pop it and let sit and those blades kind
of prevent it from moving forward too much, and that
can draw.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Some and that's what looks like when they're they'll see
the little.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Working again.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
When they're not there, you know, we're kind of where
they're at, but they're not too aggressive. This will draw
up out up to it. And then of course the
old you remember these.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
JD of course, the middle of the day, you don't
this time of year, you don't even.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Want are now they can't you can't get on they
there's I think we're already starting to see up on
next someone on like hints of fish starting to feed
up for the fall. I know it sounds kind of weird.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
I don't know if you've a budget flying around lately.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Have you all been noticing that?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah? Yeah, But they live on a farm. There's always
does there's always and I raised grass in their seed
and there's constantly in there.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
And this is a pop aar remember the original rebel
pop r. And one thing I do about this is
when you really want to slow down, you just want
to make a chugging sound, just want to pop it.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
And that's got that big open mouth, so that catches
when you pull in there.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
That's right. And what I like to do, Charlie, is
I want to shave this. Here's a here's an original
one that hasn't been the lip has it been cut down,
So when you shave it, it'll make it split water
like a foot and two in front of it.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
That really draws them.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Can you are you catching anything top water in the
middle of the day.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
You can catch yeah, but it's not as of course
it's going to be as good in the morning. Right,
there's times during the day there's a little windows of
feeding opportunity with the shatter up and I've this past
week I caught some pretty nice ones on.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
On this uh that's called a that's a whopper plopper.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
That's a water plopper.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Tailspins on this.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
And that's just real and it's straight and kind of
like them frogs comes right straight back to you and
it man spinner baits.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
No, it's this, it's topwater bait. And last year I
took my daughter to Lake monkey business and she was
wanting to do well. She was she was brimfish. She
likes to sit there on the dock catch brim and uh.
I took a big long rod and whopper plopper and
the bass were schooling in the afternoon on late monkey
business and catching them on that off.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
But those baits have been this this time of year.
This is this will work all the way into the fall.
Right now far the bass, there's still some brim been
bedding up on like someone I know. I heard some
of the bedding on lake talking too, blue gill, blue
blue gill.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yep. Nice.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
This is the time of year to start throwing a beetlespin,
ta spin and.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
Nothing better.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
I love man brim pound for pound or the fight
so much better. I mean, there's a tough fighting little fish.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
To catch on a two weight flyer, A little.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Small flyerle lightweight fly rod or an ultra light uh
spind caster or some kind of ultra light you know,
four pound test line and a rod that you can
about tie a nod in, you know, and get a
get a brim that weighs close to a pound on there,
big old copperhead blue bills they got in Lake Talquin stuff,
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fun stuff. Yeah, it was Uh. I went out and
did a skeet lessen or bird shooting and lessen shotgun
lesson this morning for a young man.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
Uh, I was like, what do you need lesson?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I was, did you didn't take one?
Speaker 3 (43:45):
I was helping this a little fill out and uh
he had been struggling, I guess in the dove field
and uh he just just started dove hunting with his family,
and uh do you help him out? Yeah? I figured
out real quick, like he was left eye dominant and
I've been shooting right that's uh his his his granddad
and his dad said they had both both done the
thing with him and thought he was right eye dominant.
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And I said, well, sometimes it just matters how you
give the instructions because he's probably closing one of his
eyes and looking at you through the eye he thought
that he was supposed.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
To be he now shooting off his left show.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
So we started him today shooting left handed. He hasn't
shot enough to where that's a huge transition. And I
had him breaking clays within about half a box of shells.
I had him consistently starting to break some clays, and uh,
his granddad was really happy, and uh, he was really happy.
And uh, so I'm looking forward to helping that young
man along his way. Yeah, just if for us, it
(44:41):
would be a huge thing. If you had to make
you try to make me start shooting right handed at
this point in time in my life, it would be
a tough thing. But starting out just that little eye dominance, uh,
just determining his eye dominance and getting him shooting off.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
I had a friend man had that happen to him.
He start putting a dot on these yeah glasses.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah, and that's a cheat, that is a cheat. That
doesn't you you can do that. And it's like I
told this young man, I said, he said, well, I
do a little bit. I seem to hit them better
if I squint my eye. I squint my right eye
a little bit and name on my left. And I said, yeah,
that's the way you start and then get to start
working towards opening your eye. I'll have to it's really
I'll have to demonstrate it for you, Paul, but it's
(45:23):
it's basically, if you make a small circle with your
with your hands and you put them out in front
of your face, and you look at an object through
through that hole in your hands, all right, and then
start slowly keep both eyes open, and you start pulling
your hands back towards your towards your face. That dot
if you keep whatever you're focused on off in the distance,
(45:45):
if you keep that inside that circle on your hand,
keep pulling it back, and eventually you'll go to one
eye or the other. And it's is determining your eye dominance.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
If I'm doing it in a classroom environment, I'll just
have them point the finger at me and line up,
you know, line up their finger with my eye, and
I'll say, pointed this eye and they'll point at that
eye and I can tell just looking at them, okay,
your left eye dominant right out. Now, you know, you
can do it yourself the way JD described. But if
somebody I'm talking to them, I said, just point at me,
and they'll point at me really and then I'll look
(46:18):
and see if if you your left eye right now,
I'm looking on pointing at your left eye, that's right
all right? With my finger. Now, which eye of mind
do you see behind that finger?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
I'm looking at that one on that one over the side.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Well, then you're looking in your right eye, you're you're
in your wrong eye because I'm now close your right
eye all right? Now, which which one of my eyes
do you see lining up on my finger? This one
I'm right, I dominant. So you know, there's different ways
to do it as an instructor versus having them do it.
I've had people do that with the whole thing and
(46:50):
come back to the tip of their nose and I go,
you're you're the only what you're looking at.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
But I think it ain't right ambidextros.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yeah, well it is important thing. It's not so important
with a handgun. It really doesn't matter all that much
with a handgun. I dominance doesn't because because with a
handgun you can move your gun under your strong eye,
regardless of which hand you have around the grip. It
doesn't matter much. It matters a lot with a rifle,
or a shotgun. It matters even more with a shotgun
(47:19):
than it.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Does with the right And it really matters with a bow, yeah, a.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Bowl and arrow and a shotgun or the two things,
because you don't have a rear sight on your shotgun
other than your cheek.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Well, how many times you run across somebody that is
right handed?
Speaker 3 (47:35):
I'm that guy.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
It happens. It's very regular.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
I'm not left handed. I just shoot left handed.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Ever since he was a kid. All right, guess we're
right of town. All right, See y'all next time.
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