July 26, 2025 • 47 mins
In this rollicking episode of The Talon Outdoors Show, the crew dives into tales of digital fraud, credit card chaos, and a suspicious “selfie request” from a supposed bank rep. But that’s just the warm-up. Things veer into nostalgic mayhem, from wild nights at the infamous Riverfront Saloon to law enforcement surveillance at Tallahassee’s short-lived bottomless bar.
Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
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Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
Check out our archive of podcasts here: https://ihr.fm/36mzYjf.
Follow the Talon Training Group and Range on Facebook @TalonRange.
Listen live to the Talon Outdoors Show from 10-11 a.m. ET on 100.7 WFLA!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And welcome to the town at Doors show. I'm Charlie,
I'm j D Captain Faull Tire, and I'm checking to
make sure everything's recording. This week looks good on the screen.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You got the quiggles going on over it?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, we go all right, So still working. I'm starting
to get better at this. Last week. I didn't screw
the show up the week before it got so bad
that I couldn't air it. In the week before that,
it was hit or miss, And so maybe I'm getting better.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I don't even know what we covered the week before.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It was irrelevant because nobody will ever know.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I forgot.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I think that file is somewhere deep in this computer
over here. I hope nobody ever digs into this thing
and gets all the bral. Lord, like, the prelude of
today's show was we have to we had to have
a briefing right here at the beginning to show is
it okay to do this? Is okay to say that?
When when we start to day out where Fred going?
Can I say this? And can I say that? When
most of the answers were no, yeah, yeah, So in advance,
(00:55):
I'd like to apologize for anything that comes out of
Fred's mouth today.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well, I mean you should do that in perpetuity because.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, I well, pretty much to show Fred's funny, I go,
if you only knew.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, so I had some some fraud on my credit card.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, I got a whole actual fraud or was it
one of fraud trying to tell you had fraud?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Uh? Well that was a good question. That's that's the funny.
You say that. So one of it was actual fraud.
There was some charge from some weird company in Missouri,
which I've never been in Missouri, some pest control company
in Missouri, and so that's like eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'm like, wow, yeah, saw the bugs in Missouri.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Guess it's a call them up and they're like, look,
I don't know what this is. And they said, this
is the Buckingham pest control company. I said, didn't where.
I was thinking England or something. No, I was in Missouri.
And I'm like, so I ended up canceling my card,
send me a new card. So last night I get home,
nothing really going on. Wife's watching this new Netflix show
which is kind of freaky, this Gun Winmen or Gun
(02:00):
a Hunter of Women. Good.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I don't know, you watching on the dark web or
something dart flick that.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Might have been that I don't know. And the Hunting
Wives maybe is what it's called here.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, that sounds more reasonable.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Uh, no idea.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It looked like a you know, like i'd spin off.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Of anyway you were watching the show.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I wasn't watching the show. I had a bunch of
women stuff in there and did a bunch of people,
you know, women's I couldn't really relate to. You. Got
a phone call, No, that's I went on the computer
and I'm looking for a pair of golf shoes I
want to take Mexico here in a couple of weeks
because I'm going down to Mexico play golf again this year.
And I found my shoes that I wanted in size seven,
(02:39):
which is hard to find because they don't you don't
sell them in stores. They just you know. So I
find my pair of shoes, I put my credit card
information in it's his card to clients, and I get
a text of suspicious activities to call people. And I
get some guy in Mumbai or wherever he is. I
can't understand the word he says, and I'm trying to
(03:01):
get the credit card cleared, and this guy is talking about, okay, well,
the first thing we need to do is take a selfie.
I'm like, what he wanted me to take a selfie
and send him a selfie and I'm looking I'm like,
you got to be out of your head. And I'm
looking at the number on the on the phone, going well,
it matches the number. They must I must have been
(03:22):
spoofed or something like a reverse spoof. And so I'm like,
you know, I'm not hang up on it, call back
the card. The number on the card I actually dialed
it instead of hitting the from the text. Uh, it's
either him or his brother. Hmm, we would like you would,
I said.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And I'm like what, I guess so they know they're
not dealing with AI robot or something.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's the other thing. I mean, you don't even know
what I look like.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, you're a human, and nobody would fake your appearance.
I mean, I've seen you in person. I'm not going
I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I blame you. But but then they want me to
take a picture of my government ID and I'm like, no,
there is no way that they want me to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Trying to probably worse that they're not speaking your brand
of any I know it. And that's because that's where
all the frauds coming that's where it's coming from. And
it's coming from over there, like probably on the other
floor in the same building. So because there are organizations,
the organizations that are legitimate call centers and in the
same building they have fraudulent floors, just a different division.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And you can hear them. The guy next to him
and he's asking some other guy, will you not get
take a sufi? And you know, like that there is
some scam going it's capital one. Oh, there's some kind
of scam going on. So I ended up hanging up
on three of them. Then went in there and he
held up my wife who was talking to my daughter
in law who's Indian by the way. So they didn't
(04:48):
work out.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And and that makes it okay for.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Language that those guys speak. You should have the phone.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
She was yeah, I mean, you know she looked. You know,
wife is feather, she's not so a lot of Indians
in the family, and and so I'm yelling at her,
and you know she's talking with daughter law on the phone.
I guess they're talking about this this Hunting Wives show
or whatnot. And I'm four martini's into it. Now now
(05:24):
I see and know I have.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I'm gonna give you a piece of free advice. Fred
I really, I'm on this is free advice. Everything about
you is already out there. You're so security number, your
driver's license number, your name, your date of birth, your
everything you have that has ever been on the Internet
that you've ever had to push put in to log
(05:48):
into data field somewhere the black Web. The bad people
already have it, but they've got everybody else's too, So
it's just kind of look of the draw. I'm a
firm believer. It's the luckal if you've ever used your
credit cardinal, it's already out there, so you're not risking
anything by taking a selfie. And what they're doing is
they're comparing your picture to the picture on your driver's
(06:09):
license to see sure whether or not that's who they're
talking to for real.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Actually, when I called this morning and I got somebody
that I could understand, and they said, yeah, we know
it sounds strange. The reason is is because last week
you called in a fraud, you had to get a
new card. We got it again, and so we're just
trying to make sure. So when they explained it like
that in plain English.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, and so when you.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Say everything is out there, now you know what else
is out there?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
What's that a supie? Well get off.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I ain't getting out on Facebook all of Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Probably, aren't you worried about I didn't. No, I'm not
worried about ident anythuff because it's gonna happen. It's just
a matter of when is your turn in the barrel
to get have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I tried. I was trying to order somethinge in or not.
You have to start a user name and account, you know,
starting account to do all this stuff with them, and
it said you cannot this user name and password is
ineligible due to potential compromise on something something something. Please
enter a new password. So it had identified that my
(07:10):
old password that I use for everything. So when it's
like something that I don't care about, I'll use the
old password that I know is on a dark web
somewhere because I've been noticed it. But I don't care.
If you can order a certain kind of pants, you know,
off the internet using that password and get a discount
on it, I don't care. But so I use a
newer version of my password, and all of a sudden
(07:31):
it went through, and I'm like, huh, so, I guess
they now have fraud features that actually crawl the web
and find those compromises and go, yeah, you can't use
this combination because it's already out there, ben't compromise.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, nowadays, when you want to get on a website
or an app or something like that, they got to
send you a code to a different device which is
going to be somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And then, well, lord knows, do not get in a
situation like I did with our range account out here
where my phone that was used to be the phone
number they would send this code to but they weren't
doing it. Then Okay, But then I had two phones.
I had one personal phone which is now my work phone,
and then I had a work phone which used to
be a personal phone. I just got tired answering it,
(08:14):
so I kept migrating, and finally, after years, I got
rid of just twenty three eleven number I had, which
used to be the company.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It was all over the sign.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, and I got rid of that. Well, when they
started the two factor identific identification stuff, that was the
phone number that all these old accounts had on it,
and that's where they sent it to. Well don't have
a phone anymore. Apparently nobody has that phone because I
was texting it, going, this is going to sound like fraud,
but I need I need y'all to send me this code.
(08:42):
And I put y'all in there, so they didn't know.
I wouldn't going you all, you know. So it was
I was trying and I didn't hear back from them,
and I can't go get the number back, and I man,
you try to call Google and get a person, and
these website and get a person, and Microsoft can get
a person.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, so yeah, I had to call it. I ordered
a pool cleaner the other day and they wanted me
to call and I called a check on the order
and they said, you're you're gonna be talking to an
AI virtual assistant.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
No I ain't. No, I ain't gonna do you think
I am, but I ain't.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Not gonna do it wouldn't be prudent.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, it's it's uh so, you ordered a pool cleaner.
I'm like, how long take him to get there? It's
a short not a pool boy, but a pool cleaner.
Don't get pool I ordered a pool cleaner too, that
I don't. I think it's I think it's wizard stuff.
It's some copper I on solar power, blah blah blah.
And that made a bit of difference. Came somebody told
(09:42):
me to buy one, so I bought one. It rains
hard last night. I'm pumping the pool out about as
fast as the water was coming down. I'm trying to
(10:10):
get me a system down over here on this recording
thing is last week's show on the on the YouTube
channel that was missing the fourth segment. I'm sorry, Paul,
but somehow or another I forgot to click record on
the video.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You had all those visual aids.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, you know, you can't get good help these days.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I got to the end, I'm going, boy, that YouTube
video sure looks a lot shorter than it normally does.
And I went back and I'm like, oh man.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well we missed all the all the discussion about Zara,
spooks and pop ours and we'll do it again.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Can I do a real quick plug here?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Uh so we we could carry the we we we
have the major morale as a local used to be.
It's back in the day there was the tallahassee bull
and it's been a couple of the papers. Yeah, so
so we have them here in the store. We're one
of the we're one of the sponsors, and we put
ads in there. And Chris stopped by today and wanted
to mention that they do, in fact sell subscriptions to
(11:04):
this paper. You can get it mailed out to you.
It's a funny paper. It's nothing, there's no hard news
in here. It's got some cool stories and pictures and
memes and funny jokes.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And that lant conservative.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It is very conservative. And the biggest audience for this
is military. It's got a lot of military jokes and
fun stuff in it. But anyway, twenty three dollars a
year for the subscription. And he wanted me to point
out in there that if you there's a there's a
subscription thing on the back of the paper here where
you can fill it out and send it in with
your twenty three dollars. And if you get the paper
(11:36):
mail to you on a subscription, there is in the
in the.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Paper here there's some talent a right, yeah, there's.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Talent ad right there. Look at there. There is a
there's a place in here where you can buy or
you get cupons for local Tallahassee restaurants. You get five
dollars off at Kusha's, which is and you get a
let's see a dozen nuts for five ninety nine original
(12:03):
Blaze Krispy.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Kremes, I get thirteen dollars now yeah normally.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, exactly. And you can get a coupon for by
one get one half off platter at El Jalisco. It's
a good Mexican restaurant. A couple of several locations, got
a Wahoo free appetizer, and you get five dollars off
at Willie Jewels, which is a great barbecue joint. So
that in and of itself makes you money. If you're
if you have a subscription and you get one with
(12:28):
these with the coupons in there. And if you come
into the our store to talent and you don't take
one one of the free papers off the rack over there,
and you ask and say, hey, can I get one
of the special uh major morale papers, I'll give you one.
So if you want to come here to the store
and get one, we'll give you one with the coupons.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Sham wow, sham wow. But wait, there's more.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Wait, there's more now, anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
For one du I special in there here you good Ford.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Two DUIs for one. Yeah, I was drunk once. I
don't know how I got yours twice.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I mean we've got you've got football season coming around
the corner.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean, yeah, you know it's worth it. Just if
you get the subscription paper, it's worth it. It's got
the coupons in there at good places. And I was
told that, uh told you there's a high, high probability
that Summers Barbecue is coming on as a sponsor. And
we'll probably also have at some point in time have
a coupon in there, which is the barber joint right
down the road from the range here. That's awesome, right.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Going good. Yeah, I love going down there. I know
about this Summer's Barbecue. The old Riverfront Saloon. Yeah, you
know iticed the Riverfront Saloon. A lot of your clients
started out hall night there.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You have made a lot of money off the Riverfront.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I've got the diagram of it somewhere in court.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You walk down there, now, take a tour. I mean
it's it's the same building that's just back where the
pool tables were. Eat.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Now I walk in there and go yeah, I got
in a fat right in that corner right over there.
One time I saw somebody jump off the top rope
with a with a beer bottle and bust somebody.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Is one of a few restaurants that I go in.
I didn't had the first time I went under to eat.
I'd had to ask for the bathrooms were I knew.
I knew, And I walked around there and went, oh,
I remember this, Yeah, a little bit I've seen. I've
seen people drug out. You know, It's one thing to
get kicked out the main door. It's another thing and
get took out the side door because there was remember
(14:19):
there was a privacy fence around part of that. You
didn't want to go out that door because that's where
you got.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Your got funked.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
That's where you got whooked before you left.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
So yeah, that was a I'll never forget that night.
I walked in there about eleven o'clock, had got off
work and throwed the cowboy hat on and took off
out there. And they had that little that little set
of steps and kind of a standing sitting area looking
out towards the stage, and there was a set of
steps right when you first walked in. I don't know
why they were there, but they were. And I saw
this old girl come off about step number.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Five and missed the rest.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
No, no, she come off the top with a empty
long neck bottle and went right upside somebody's head with her.
I mean it looked like Dusty Roads American Dream coming
off the top rope with atomic elbow and bus that
Budweiser bottlecross and then it was a man. It just
all of a sudden was a heck of a fight
right there. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Apparently she had seen him, she.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Had done got angry about something.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
He was loving up on somebody else and that I
didn't know she was there, I imagine, because that was
the thing you had to watch around. He had little
around Seue Hall was there some nights and you go
in that place and you had to take the temperature
to place, and there's nights when you go I think
I'm gonna go over the cowboys tonight. Not cowboys, the moon,
the moon.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I'm going somewhere else tonight.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
That oh is in the early nineties.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Early nineties and the Garth Brooks stripe yep, Western.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I were talking about the bottle INSI that's.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Probably isn't early nineties. It had to be probably ninety one.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
You were prosecuting then, weren't you.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I think, yeah, it was it.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I just kind of stepped through the side because I
was off work at that point and having a cool
adult beverage of my own, and I'm just sitting there
watching that going well.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I was a I would as you know, and from
pertional experience, I was a regular there too during that
time when we were at f s U Police And
then I went to the Lynn County Sheriff's office and
I got told we don't go there, We don't go there.
Off due there and they knew who was out there.
If you went out there, they would you would. I
(16:17):
came from our Watson you know that our employe't you know,
And it came down and go, hey, you were at
the rear front the other night. I was, yeah, they
don't want you out there anymore. Mike. Did they call
and complain about something? You know, somebody you were a
witnessed that being out there. I will I want to
know who told on me because they were out there,
you know, because like when they started to remember they
(16:39):
started the topless bar, bottomless bar or something here's down
and the and the first because it was against Lowaby topless,
so that a bottomless bar. And the first night they
opened was all law enforcement. There wasn't a single civilian, isn't.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
There they were watching for their twelve hour shift.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well they wanted to they wanted to shut them down,
and so they had to, you know, well how else
to keep the public out, but to send all to
fill it up with cottas and then everybody out. I
just wonder how long No.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Fanny's was the one back in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Right the White Drive and Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Not that I knew that well, and that's that that
I know the history of this. Well, so so what happened.
That's when they got rid of topless because Fannys was
the topless dancing place. So they passed county ordinance said
no topless dancing. Well they didn't say anything about bottoms
and the ordinance that the So this guy, this is
the Cafe Risque guy, the one seventy five, you know,
we beer all and so he opened up the bottomless
(17:34):
joint and then Willie and uh and I think Larry
Campbell's sheaf at the time, he sent, you know, his
finest deputies to go in there and conduct surveillance to
ensure that they were in fact dancing bottomless, and they were,
and uh so they watched them for twelve hours just
to make sure that they were really bottomless.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
And when they probably the beer sales were pretty low
that night. We're trying this, wouldn't we want to know?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
You got to blend in.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You hold the same beer bottle for all those hours.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So then they called an emergency meeting of the County
and City Commission and passed an ordinance to make bottomless
dance and no nicked dance, no nicked dancing, and just
for good measure, they wanted to define what exactly you
could dance in and that's when they outlong.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
If you read it's almost like it's about I mean,
you just lead it, or you read that ordinance and
you're like, I don't think I should be reading this.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
It's they modeled it after the one in Saint John's County,
which and it's about a couple of pages long, defining
the area.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Don't don't get don't get too far into it. The
family shows. I mean, I know it, you know, right, Yeah,
you can still find out ordinance still on the books.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
And it's on there. I don't think it's very it's
probably loosely enforced.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Me.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
You go to the beach today and then wear dental flaws.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, there's reading it. There are some bathing suits that
violate that, no question, and they're legal in public. But
you can't get in a bar.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Now you get up there and start dancing around on
that thing, you might have a problem. At least I
did last week.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I had drunk. I didn't mean to be drunk in public.
I meant to be drunk in a bar.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I was drunk in a bar. I was thrown into
public tater salad.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, so that's that's uh, that's our claim to fame.
That wasn't the That was in the nineties that all
that went down. I want to say ninety five.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Maybe then that would have been Sheriff Boone and under
Sheriff Larry Campbell.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
If I'm not that was.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And I was a deputy in ninety four, went to
Jackson County ninety five, came back in ninety six. I
got tired of putting all my relatives in jail. I'm
back over there now. I ain't worried about it, no
more than just they.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Have all gotten too old to cause much trouble.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Well, different kinds of trouble now. Now the wildest ones
just sit around weed. You know, it's all distant. Can
none of my close kN obviously I would. My family's
more forthright than all that. We don't. We don't have
that kind of stuff. That was the same year, and
I would not admit it if they.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Went after the adult video stores. Remember that one that
all happened the same time.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
No, I don't remember that. That's I really.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Don't know that. I used to hate get the calls.
We had to go in the back room with Rix toybo. Hey,
they got us, they gotta l and LTD. And I'm like,
I'm too far out Highway twenty. I got, you know what,
my tire slack. I gotta stoff off here are up
my tire ahead and.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Take that be about tim run. About ten minutes later,
I got to stop and put on my Tai Vix suit,
my has Matt suit before I go, oh, that was
this nasty.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Got somebody somebody stole videos from the back room and
we we we want you to come pat them down.
So I had it back there too long.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I had one of those L and L clients in
one of those rick storebox stores. And I can't remember
his name, but his name was the same name as
the guy who was doing some yard work, like once
a month he come do the hedges and the kind
of stuff. And so I hollered my secretary. I said,
give me, you know, Frank Jones's number, whatever it was,
(21:15):
and so she gave me the number to the client,
not the yard guy. So I call up and the guy,
some dude answers the phone, says, I'm like, it's Frank
Jones there. He's not here, and I'm like, where is he?
I'm sorry he passed away. And I'm like, well then,
who the hell's been more on my yard?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And terrible friend?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Wrong guy, wrong guy. How it happens.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Well, I've seen you be more embarrassed recently in this studio.
All right, all right, we'll be back in amberday. So
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on the break you mentioned Fred and I wanted to
bring up because on the way in I heard it.
In fact, Hulk Cogan did pass away heart attack from
a yeah, heart attack, cardiac events they like to say nowadays. Anyway, Saday,
what if I go from a heart attack at seventy one.
I feel like I've made it.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You know, I'd like to stare around at the Lord.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I would too, But if I make it, you know,
I'll be honest with you. I was like, I make
it to sixty eight, I'll be all right. You know,
if I make it to my mid late sixties, I
will accomplish it. I think I've accomplished everything I want
to accomplish now. Everything now is a bonus. I feel
like I'm being blessed with everything that happens right now
in life. So I feel like from this point forward,
I've done everything I wanted to do. I still want
to keep raising my kids. I want to see my
grandkids get older. I want to spend more time my wife.
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I want to accomplish some more things. I'm fine, I
do want to do all that. However, I feel like
I've had a pretty dog going good run and I'm
at the best place I've ever ended in my life.
So yeah, if I make it from fifty eight right
now and I make it another that would be another
thirteen years to seventy one. My Jackson County mouth is right.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I feel like I don't even like to think about
all that. But I do think about I mean, he
was it wasn't what a month ago he was up
on stage doing stuff, and I mean you've seen him
in public appearances and that kind of stuff. So I
just I think my biggest fear about dying is not dying.
It's not being able to function, to be the quality
of life, not quantity.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You don't want to sit around and fall apart for
eight or ten years.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
You want quality when I go.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I want to be with a bang.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, So there again, a cardiac event boom, and I'm gone.
I'm fine with that versus yeah, getting the big sea
and sitting around and being in pain and discomfort and
all that. I mean there again, you know, if I was,
if I was sitting around with a bad something going on,
I'd want to cling as long as I could for
my family and all. But you know, if I got
added the choice, I've had to choose, and it ain't
(23:52):
in a gunfight, you know, it's a I want it
to be something else. I just I want to win
the gun fight.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I guess the other side of that is, I mean,
I'm gonna need like some time to do my confessions
and repentance.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
And you ain't gonna start now going on that.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I'm I got a lot explaining to do before it happens,
so I make sure I'm right.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
What I what I meant to say was remember that
time there's a there's a reason for it. Let me well,
I can see I can see.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
You if you've got to do penance for all your
dirty dirtiness in the in the world, Fred, it's gonna
it's gonna be a minute.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
That's a good thing about Christianity.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
On one conversation is all.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
The conversation is done. Yeah, that's why I.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Love my wife. You know, you talk about stuff like that,
and and and I'm getting back into something. I'm being
invited to go back and to do some fairly risky
activities for agency I'm affiliated with. And you know, somebody
asked my wife the other day, says, you, how do
you feel about Charlie going back into doing the whole
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blah blah blah again where he's likely to get hurt?
And she said, well, he was. He was on SWAT
team when I met him, and you know he used
to he got in this and that and talked about
mine and Jad's situation. It ain't nothing new, So you know,
he's just having a good time, and and that's what
that's you know, that's what it was when we started,
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and maybe that'd be what it is when it is.
I don't know. I just you know, to me, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I don't know. There's things I did when I was younger.
I wouldn't even I look back and go, what on
earth was I thinking?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Oh? Yeah, I mean jump.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
It out of an airplane.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I mean we used to, see I ain't.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
We used to for fun. And I can I can
say this now because there ain't nobody around to beat
me for it. Uh. But my granddaddy, we would, you know,
when I was fourteen fifteen, sixteen years old, take my
grandady's bas boat and you know, I go go fish,
go play on the watermeme, my buddies go do And
we would get that boat up, running as fast as
it would go, which was probably fifty to fifty five
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miles an hour, get as fast as it would go
down the river, put on a put on a life jacket,
a vest in a light check and jump out just
for just to skip across the top of the water,
which is probably why my back and neck and everything
else on me is so messed up at this point.
But that used to be just fun for us and
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just stupid things like that, And how I didn't get killed.
Jump up, find a bridge over a creek somewhere and
go go stick something in the water, see how deep
it was, and just jump off the bridge. I mean,
I've jumped off the bridge at oak Ladney River right
here on ninety you know and live.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yes, not everybody that's jumped off of it did.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah. Oh we swim all the way down to herb Dock,
way down the river.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
We'll be right back a We're back. Did the stories
(27:13):
got wilder on the break Fred jumping off stuff with
a tie?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
They closed that there was a high tower at the
high dyed thing. I think they've just got a ten
foot platform there now. They took the Tuesday at what
Color Springs. They took the two taller stories. They're talking
about jumping off bridges.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And six years old and you're jumping off that thing.
That was a big deal.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah. Oh if you was mad enough to go get
climb up there and jump off. Yeah, when you were
a kid at I did too. And like I said,
that's probably why I'm so so orthopedically messed up at
this point in time in my life is doing crazy things.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
When we were up in Georgia in uh for fourth July, like, Okayney,
they got this sain called jumping Rock. It's a rock
everybody jumps off of.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, it was probably worked hard to come up with
that name.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
It's Georgia.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I mean, don't ask him to spell it.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Don't ask thee and.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
It's cut the name of the lake. You sure ain't
gonna spell that.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, Lako is old cooney. But yeah, so uh had
had bow took my uh, my six year old granddaughter
who will is fearless now? The older one she got
it there, I'm wonna climb back down. But the other one, no, no,
we don't jump off that thing. We jumped off at
once and then you go again, go again.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, that's the problem with kids. I'm willing to I'm
still willing to do some of that crazy stuff one
time now. And then they were like, let's do it again. No,
let's don't.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, man jumped off that dog. You couldn't see the bottom,
so I don't know how deep it was. Probably pretty
somebody else jumped off of it. So I figured out
all right.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
As long as it was deep enough.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
It was deep enough.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
What the chances are they were heavier than you. Yeah,
it went deeper. I don't know if you're talking about
ballistics and stuff. You know, he's a small he's a
small projectile. He might actually.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Penetrate the projectile going toigh velocity. You never know who
might get some ran.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
We jumped off of it again. You had to run
because it kind of went down like.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
A slope, so you had to get some distance.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, she had to a run and start and clear.
So I grabbed my old six year old and we're
running as fast I'm grabbing her, and once we get
out in the air, she slams her head into me.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And see, if you were real smart, you'd have done
a couple of whirly worlds around and just slung her.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah. Well, no, I was going with her down. So
as soon as we get out into the end of
the air, she's knocking heads with me as I'm going down,
and you know, I'm my ears are ringing, and you
looked through it.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
No, I'm gonna just throw you this time.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I hope my kids have have grandkids early enough in
in their in my life or in their life or whatever.
To where I can uh just turn them into Oh.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It's so much fun.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, I really I really want to be able just
to do that kind of stuff with grandkids and make
them just pure rotten and give them back.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Oh yeah, you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
That's that's that's part of the.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I teach you. The other one the other day going
to guess what chicken butt? You know, she's going home,
says that to her parents. Got a phone called.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
H I got grandkids and listening to some of the
things comes out of their mouth, It's funny, you know.
The little girls just just precious and funny and they're
way too smart. And you know, I remember watching you know,
all my kids growing up and it just and recently
when my thirteen year old son CJ. He's looking at
all these old videos and stuff that they're popping back
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memories and on and now he's he's thirteen. I mean,
he's a smart kid. He's in all the you know,
makes the good grades and these ventures whatever thing program
he's in. And they my wife asked me, they was,
you know, they're going on a venture trip to Washington,
d C. This year and I'm not going. Are you
going with them? And it wasn't. It wasn't a question,
It was a and you're going It came out of
(30:47):
her mouth, is are you going with him? What she
meant was you are going with him?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
And she just mess That's kind of like why I
went to New York. It's not because I wanted to
go to New York. It's because I wasn't gonna let
my wife and my kids go to New York without
me being there.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
So I had to go talk to my son and go,
you know, you got to keep your head. You've got
to keep your grades up, son, or do you want
to be going to Washington, d C. This this year?
And he goes, yeah, I know, daddy, I know when
I said, And that would just be a tragedy if
if we didn't have you, I mean, if we didn't
get to go.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
By the way, remember I told you had to be
in bed by ten. We're gonna move that back to
you're a little bit older.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Midnight, there's a video games still later at night.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
You'll be all right, I'm not feeding any breakfast, and
you ain't got to study, and.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You'll be you know, you don't need to make straight
a'e son, You just you just You'll be fine. You know,
you're probably not going to law school be a doctor anyway.
You just you're not interested in that stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
He can do anything school.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, I ought to keep me from having to go
to Washington, d C. Although I've been twice in my life.
Once on I think it was an Armor's trip, went
up there, and once once when I was about eight
or nine, ten years old, you know. And the only
reason I remember going the second time because I remember
going to Vietnam Memorial and going to the Korean Memorial
and all that stuff, which didn't exist when I was
(31:58):
a kid, So I know I had to have gone
on another time. Other than I don't really remember about
about it because I didn't really do a lot of tours.
It's one of those business trips or hey, let's running
there and take check out blah blah blah blah, moaland
let's get out of there. I want to say it
was me and Tommy Gore, but I'm not. It was
somebody on a on a I went up there to No,
it was we went to Virginia. I was at the NRA,
got to the NRA Museum in Virginia, and I had
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to go over into Washington, d C. Because you know
it's right there, but you know it's we ain't flying,
So I do.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
What taking a train taking us?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
What are you taking a train up there? How you
getting in the Washington drive?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Drive? Yeah, that's a long drive.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
My brother took a train up there.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I drove up there.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Is there a train that goes up there?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You get on Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Oh, I ain't going to Jacksonville on train.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Sleep.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Okay, well, Hiver they go and they'll probably go on
a bus or some vands or something.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Was in the seventh grade we took a train.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I'm just thinking of them throwing you in a box
car somewhere and wondering where you're gonna fall out.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
With tyl of Hay in the back, you know, Fred
with his hou Fred got boo bag over his shoulder.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
You know, well, I met up with a gambler.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Both too tired to sleep.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
They're both ups, too tired to sleep. But it is
final words. I found an ace.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I congratulation Rogers just you need no one to hold
your mouth. Apparently didn't learn.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I'm kind of looking forward, but watching my son go
through those phases in life where he started saying smart stuff,
you know, that made me contemplate things and made me
consider things. And you know, he wouldn't ask questions.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Like what if C A T really spells dog? No,
not like that, Yes from the Nerds movie The Nerds
Come on people, Yeah, come.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
On, yeah. But you know it's it's interesting in watching
and now grandkids are another opportunity, and that they're finally
getting to the age where they're starting to I wouldn't
say think critically, maybe be critical, but not think critically,
but that times and I enjoyed that part of watching
my kids when they started asking me real questions, you know,
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and it made me It's kind of like what I
like teaching so much is when and jad you know,
just when you are teaching someone a skill, and at
some point in time we all teach something. I mean,
I don't know anything about fishing, but I know, Paul,
that's what you do. Fred. I don't want to consider
what you might be teaching people the but you know,
(34:25):
you're trying to explain things and go over things. And
so when I ask a legal question and you're trying
to explain it to me, it's those things where I see,
you know, somebody asked me a question. I go, Okay,
I see where the gears are turning. I see what's
going on in your head. Now, let me see if
I can put it in some sort of perspective for
you and children and grandchildren an opportunity to go back
and do that and try to get them on a
(34:46):
track that maybe I didn't pick up on. Took me
a long time to get there, and that's your opportunity
to go put them leaps and bounds ahead of where
you were in that area. Let me show you what
it took me all these years to figure out, and
let me explain it to now. You ain't going to
listen to me, But one day you're gonna go back
and go Daddy or Papa said this, and now it
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makes sense.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I'd talk about that with my kids all the time.
It was like, look, I'm not gonna tell you anything
that I haven't learned from the school of hard knocks experience.
Now you take what you want to out of what
I just told you, But I'm telling you you know
you're making a mistake or you're gonna regret your decision
because of this and try to relate it. But you're right.
(35:28):
They don't there's a huge segment of society that will
not take good advice from the right people. And they
just got to touch that stove, you know. I mean,
they got to touch the stove and see if it's hot.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, I mean that question you brought up. I mean,
I remember one of my kids was insomniac, dyslexic, agnostic
once and he asked questions. He said, been laying awake
at night, wondering if there really was a dog.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
The good one friend. I like that.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Oh man, that's deep. That's deep. It's deep and full
of and full of something. It reminds me of Dusty Miller,
my old sergeant on patrol. Dusty used to tell these jokes.
And he was a super sharp guy, super smart. He
either loved you he hated you, and if he hated you,
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you knew about it. But if he loved you, he
treated you good as gold. And he loved me. And
it's why my oldest daughter's name's Dusty. I mean, he
treated me good as gold. And but you'd sit and
check on and he would tell these stories a lot
of times. I had audio murphy him and stuff. He's
old school, and he would tell these jokes and I
would laugh at him because I got them. You look
around the room. Not everybody got him. It took it
(36:42):
took a minute. It took him minute sometimes and uh
old Roger Fields are a lieutenant, and he would you hear
him every now and then, and you tell he got it.
And it wasn't all of us, but he got much.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
It's a driving anchor.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I'm sort of blinding. Show me where you see the
sentencing of the coburger guy this week? Yes, I did.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
That's the guy that killed all the college kids.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I mean it's and there's a few more facts revealed
about this thing guy. Apparently it's going on Amazon looking
for another Cabar knife because he lost his. He's gonna
do it again.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Well, of course that's what serial killers do. I can't
believe that they let that guy off that easy. I
can't either, and I'm sorry. I mean, it's not easy.
He's getting multiple life sentences or whatever else.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
But if there was ever a case that deserves.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
They let it, well, they let him. They let him
plead guilty to it without a confession. And usually yeah,
that doesn't go that way.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, you always do that, I mean you it's got
to be a proper right and allo allocution as well.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I also couldn't believe that that one of the relatives
of one of the girls gave the guy, gave him
her phone number and just basically said, if you ever
feel like you need telling me, you need to talk
or whatever while you're sitting in jail, here's my phone number.
If you want to ever call me and tell me
why you did this or what this was all about.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
You know, it's like asking the devil why he's evil.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean, well, it's it's it's
a messed up world we live in. That's just the
bottom line. That's why, that's why you want to go
fishing and just forget about it.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Beyond comprehension that somebody could do that to some other
young human.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Being, anybody.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, and just for for kicks.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Basically, what do you get out of that.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
When we talk about an active shooter training on one
of our slides as predator, prey and protector, and we
talk about the predator, we're not talking about a guy
stealing gas out of your tank or breaking in and
getting something out of your house. The predator is that
person that is a truly evil person, and evil exists
in this world. If you believe in if you believe
been good, you believe in grace, you believe in there
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is a Every coin has an opposite side, yeah, and
so there is in fact evil in this world. And
I've riden an elevator with a serial killer, and you
can just feel it coming off of him. I mean,
it's it's it's nasty, it's bad. But you don't feel
that when you're out fishing.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
So that's true.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
That's true. Being out on a boat and fishing, it
makes you feel closer to God, not closer to right.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
It sure does, and you get you know, that's one thing.
I'm going this morning early and a little cloud. He's
been so hot, but this morning it was cool, the
wind was blowing, and just grateful to be able to
be out there, didn't have nobody, just going out looking
for some for some brim beds. And man, I tell
you they have in the last week. I've seen more
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new brim beds than I have since made when they
usually start, it's very unusual. And I found one I
was telling j D about. It's probably as big as
a whole lobby of the of the range here it's huge.
And when I found it earlier this week, there was
two stumps. There was probably about forty potholes round big stops,
about forty potholes around it, and there was brim on it.
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And I found another stump there was just brim around it,
but not not up. Now that whole place is about
half an acre full of blue gills, little blue gills
and shell cracker mixed.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Got it like that?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Never seen that, you know.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I know they a brim and blue gill bet all
the way in this September, but I just seems like
in this past week there's just more a lot of places.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, it's it's a water cloudy.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
It's starting to clear up. I'm thinking that might be
one of the reasons we it's actually cleaning up a
little bit. It's getting clear and clear. Okay, I don't
know all this rain.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
We've been getting.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Five inches at the house of the night.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
I don't know what we got here at the range
day before yesterday, but it come a frog strangler that
a couple of days ago. In the afternoon. We had
a good rain today, but I mean the other afternoon
it was one of those things where I walked outside.
I'm looking for a funnel cloud or something, because the
wind was blowing fifty sixty miles an hour and it
was raining. Like we ran outside. I started unclogging drains
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and all this kind of stuff because it was it
was got. I mean we had yesterday, uh, yesterday, day
before yesterday waned yesterday.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, several days ago now, but.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, we had this Thursday, were recording the show. It
rained pretty hard here for it, but not for long,
not for long, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
It rained at the house Wednesday night. I had a
kiddie pool out in the chicken pen that was empty
except for some some Diutsch bacious earth on the Hate
Saturday whatever out there for them to d e. Yeah,
and and so there was. But when I went out
in the morning to feed them and check on them,
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that thing was slam full a kiddie pool, and I'm
saying there was six inches of water in it that
wasn't in there to night before. I had to go
outside and turn the pool pump on and the drain
and let it pump the whole time it was raining
to keep the pool from overflowing. I mean it where
does it tout into the.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yard if it overflowed where we're to go in.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
The yard, but it would go it killed the grass
all the way around the pool instead of at the
other end of the drain line.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I'll explained after show. But there's a reason I don't
want it overflowing out of the pool, but I want
it pumped out of the pool.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
But underground, I don't have.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
An under I don't have a drain in that thing
that you know, it gets up to a certain level
where it keeps from overflowing, it overflows, it goes places
I don't want to go. Suffice to say, yeah, yeah,
well you got to so my pond's got water in again. Yeah,
because it got down to it turns into two ponds
when it gets too low and the cows are out
there up there's still deep enough. I didn't realize it's
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a deep I look out there and all I see
is the cows back and his head sticking out of it,
and I'm like that it gets deep, then.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Let them go in that hole over there on the
other end, that sink hole in there.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Well, I'm down a cow. I'm not really sure where.
I'm just kidding, just kidding.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Charlie's got in his pond out there, there is a
there is a hole. I've seen that pond completely dry
except for that probably ten foot diameter hole out there
in the middle wishing.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I think my nephew quit quit quit fishing off the
dock and they started walking out to the water edge
of the water because you can now walk. The cows
hang out under the dock now on dry land. I mean,
and it was six feet deep there before. That's how
far down that pond is. With the drought we've had
this year. We've had a lot of rain when we
get rain, but now it's back.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Up where you got a pump in there.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
It's a it's a cow pont. It's just an agricultural pond.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
The uh, there's fishing, there's fishing.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
It never goes dry. I mean they go down in
a hole. There's sink down in there. They go down
in the hole, but there's there's bashing there. We we uh,
we seated that thing with some bass here several years back,
and they're out there catching bass on top waterlooers. They
ain't big, but you know whatever, if a dead gum
birds don't eat them all, I said j D. A
(43:55):
video the other day of a little pond behind the barn,
and what kind of it was about twenty something. They
was about twenty something of them out there, Yeah, eating
whatever was left in that.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Big old bill Yeah, white, big old white storks with
a black, big.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Old blacking shows up at your pond.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yeah they Uh, well.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Well that pond is connected to a creek, and when
everything's up, the fish come and go from the pond
to the creek. When it dries down, that it just
turns into a pothole and then whatever's left in there,
if it gets low enough the birds to come get it.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Is that why it's called Try Creek?
Speaker 1 (44:32):
No, the dry creek's up the road, and uh, I
don't know why it's called dry Creek. It's been called
Dray Creek.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
For a long, long long time, probably because you.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Can't get up and down it now. Because after Michael
came through, they cleaned up the Cipolo River where you
could go tubing from Spring Creek down to you know
certain areas and uh down near Bear Paw and all
that and clutter up the creek with trash and then
there's a but dry creek. They just didn't do nothing
for Dry Creek. I think a few locals went out
here and clean some of it up. But we used
(44:59):
to pull a john boat up and down that creek,
grab crawfish and fish and do all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
But some of it's on your property, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
What dry creek? New New that's through the woods a
little waste. Pelt Creek is on my property, which is smaller. Now.
They'd all call it dry creek. And when it gets dry,
it ain't no creek. It's ought to be called Pelt ditch. Yeah,
that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
So you been catching any basketball.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
I have that, I'll tell you what. Especially early morning,
late in evening.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
That's the only time I would want to be out
right now.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
That's when you need to be going. But today was nice.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Now.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
I was out there at about ten thirty and it
was very comfortable, that cloudy weather and that little wind blowing.
But guys, if anybody's wanting to get out there and
do some fishing this weekend, definitely brim fishing. They're bedding
for sure.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
You ever try to catch betting prim with a beetlespin
I have, and will they hit a beetlespin when they're
bedding like that? If you can get a beetlespin to them.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
And those shell cracker will for sure call them do cracker.
But blue gills if if it's a little bit deeper,
a little bit deeper bed, you can yeah, I've called them.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
That's that's that's beetlespin fishing. And like Lake Talc when
this time of year is if you can stand it,
you know, early in the morning, late in evening or
fly fishing, beetlespin fishing is just so much fun.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Yeah, that's I remember going to Late Talc when this
time of year growing up, to.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
The kid over there, my uncle having a lake house.
We'd go over there and just do nothing but beetlespin
early in the morning, late and evening for two or
three days. And you don't ever catch beal spin. You
don't catch little ones, that's right. You don't catch anything
but studs.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
You catch perch on them all the time. Yeah, perch
control for.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Perch, oh for for speckle perch.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Crappy crappy, crappycle a cycle.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Don't do that again.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Don't do it again.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
I said, we're going to do that again this.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Yeah, but no, you go there and fish. There's deep
banks on the shady banks, out on taque for pulling
beetlespins with like two pound test line little miniature the
miniature tackle, super lightweight tackle.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Yeah, after the after when the grass lines start to
find it out, you can really catch them on semino
like that with beetlespins.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yeah, that's that is there is. I think if you
could make a ten pound brim and tie him to
a ten pound bass, a ten pound brim would drown
the ten pound bass pulling him backwards. They pound for pound,
they fight so much.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
There's a lot more cash. Football is around the corner,
Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah, we're like twenty something days away or less something
like that.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
Are we all Florida State fans?
Speaker 2 (47:30):
We got nowhere to go but up?
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm a Florida State fan. I'm gonna be
a toy I'm gonna be a Troy fan. My my
daughter just graduated from or from he's going to Troy.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Sir, congratulations there and we will see you all this time.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Is that the dollar around this year
And welcome to the town at Doors show. I'm Charlie,
I'm j D Captain Faull Tire, and I'm checking to
make sure everything's recording. This week looks good on the screen.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You got the quiggles going on over it?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, we go all right, So still working. I'm starting
to get better at this. Last week. I didn't screw
the show up the week before it got so bad
that I couldn't air it. In the week before that,
it was hit or miss, And so maybe I'm getting better.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I don't even know what we covered the week before.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
It was irrelevant because nobody will ever know.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I forgot.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I think that file is somewhere deep in this computer
over here. I hope nobody ever digs into this thing
and gets all the bral. Lord, like, the prelude of
today's show was we have to we had to have
a briefing right here at the beginning to show is
it okay to do this? Is okay to say that?
When when we start to day out where Fred going?
Can I say this? And can I say that? When
most of the answers were no, yeah, yeah, So in advance,
(00:55):
I'd like to apologize for anything that comes out of
Fred's mouth today.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well, I mean you should do that in perpetuity because.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, I well, pretty much to show Fred's funny, I go,
if you only knew.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, so I had some some fraud on my credit card.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, I got a whole actual fraud or was it
one of fraud trying to tell you had fraud?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Uh? Well that was a good question. That's that's the funny.
You say that. So one of it was actual fraud.
There was some charge from some weird company in Missouri,
which I've never been in Missouri, some pest control company
in Missouri, and so that's like eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'm like, wow, yeah, saw the bugs in Missouri.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Guess it's a call them up and they're like, look,
I don't know what this is. And they said, this
is the Buckingham pest control company. I said, didn't where.
I was thinking England or something. No, I was in Missouri.
And I'm like, so I ended up canceling my card,
send me a new card. So last night I get home,
nothing really going on. Wife's watching this new Netflix show
which is kind of freaky, this Gun Winmen or Gun
(02:00):
a Hunter of Women. Good.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I don't know, you watching on the dark web or
something dart flick that.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Might have been that I don't know. And the Hunting
Wives maybe is what it's called here.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, that sounds more reasonable.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Uh, no idea.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It looked like a you know, like i'd spin off.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Of anyway you were watching the show.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I wasn't watching the show. I had a bunch of
women stuff in there and did a bunch of people,
you know, women's I couldn't really relate to. You. Got
a phone call, No, that's I went on the computer
and I'm looking for a pair of golf shoes I
want to take Mexico here in a couple of weeks
because I'm going down to Mexico play golf again this year.
And I found my shoes that I wanted in size seven,
(02:39):
which is hard to find because they don't you don't
sell them in stores. They just you know. So I
find my pair of shoes, I put my credit card
information in it's his card to clients, and I get
a text of suspicious activities to call people. And I
get some guy in Mumbai or wherever he is. I
can't understand the word he says, and I'm trying to
(03:01):
get the credit card cleared, and this guy is talking about, okay, well,
the first thing we need to do is take a selfie.
I'm like, what he wanted me to take a selfie
and send him a selfie and I'm looking I'm like,
you got to be out of your head. And I'm
looking at the number on the on the phone, going well,
it matches the number. They must I must have been
(03:22):
spoofed or something like a reverse spoof. And so I'm like,
you know, I'm not hang up on it, call back
the card. The number on the card I actually dialed
it instead of hitting the from the text. Uh, it's
either him or his brother. Hmm, we would like you would,
I said.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And I'm like what, I guess so they know they're
not dealing with AI robot or something.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's the other thing. I mean, you don't even know
what I look like.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, you're a human, and nobody would fake your appearance.
I mean, I've seen you in person. I'm not going
I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I blame you. But but then they want me to
take a picture of my government ID and I'm like, no,
there is no way that they want me to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Trying to probably worse that they're not speaking your brand
of any I know it. And that's because that's where
all the frauds coming that's where it's coming from. And
it's coming from over there, like probably on the other
floor in the same building. So because there are organizations,
the organizations that are legitimate call centers and in the
same building they have fraudulent floors, just a different division.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And you can hear them. The guy next to him
and he's asking some other guy, will you not get
take a sufi? And you know, like that there is
some scam going it's capital one. Oh, there's some kind
of scam going on. So I ended up hanging up
on three of them. Then went in there and he
held up my wife who was talking to my daughter
in law who's Indian by the way. So they didn't
(04:48):
work out.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And and that makes it okay for.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Language that those guys speak. You should have the phone.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
She was yeah, I mean, you know she looked. You know,
wife is feather, she's not so a lot of Indians
in the family, and and so I'm yelling at her,
and you know she's talking with daughter law on the phone.
I guess they're talking about this this Hunting Wives show
or whatnot. And I'm four martini's into it. Now now
(05:24):
I see and know I have.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I'm gonna give you a piece of free advice. Fred
I really, I'm on this is free advice. Everything about
you is already out there. You're so security number, your
driver's license number, your name, your date of birth, your
everything you have that has ever been on the Internet
that you've ever had to push put in to log
(05:48):
into data field somewhere the black Web. The bad people
already have it, but they've got everybody else's too, So
it's just kind of look of the draw. I'm a
firm believer. It's the luckal if you've ever used your
credit cardinal, it's already out there, so you're not risking
anything by taking a selfie. And what they're doing is
they're comparing your picture to the picture on your driver's
(06:09):
license to see sure whether or not that's who they're
talking to for real.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Actually, when I called this morning and I got somebody
that I could understand, and they said, yeah, we know
it sounds strange. The reason is is because last week
you called in a fraud, you had to get a
new card. We got it again, and so we're just
trying to make sure. So when they explained it like
that in plain English.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, and so when you.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Say everything is out there, now you know what else
is out there?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
What's that a supie? Well get off.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I ain't getting out on Facebook all of Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Probably, aren't you worried about I didn't. No, I'm not
worried about ident anythuff because it's gonna happen. It's just
a matter of when is your turn in the barrel
to get have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I tried. I was trying to order somethinge in or not.
You have to start a user name and account, you know,
starting account to do all this stuff with them, and
it said you cannot this user name and password is
ineligible due to potential compromise on something something something. Please
enter a new password. So it had identified that my
(07:10):
old password that I use for everything. So when it's
like something that I don't care about, I'll use the
old password that I know is on a dark web
somewhere because I've been noticed it. But I don't care.
If you can order a certain kind of pants, you know,
off the internet using that password and get a discount
on it, I don't care. But so I use a
newer version of my password, and all of a sudden
(07:31):
it went through, and I'm like, huh, so, I guess
they now have fraud features that actually crawl the web
and find those compromises and go, yeah, you can't use
this combination because it's already out there, ben't compromise.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, nowadays, when you want to get on a website
or an app or something like that, they got to
send you a code to a different device which is
going to be somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And then, well, lord knows, do not get in a
situation like I did with our range account out here
where my phone that was used to be the phone
number they would send this code to but they weren't
doing it. Then Okay, But then I had two phones.
I had one personal phone which is now my work phone,
and then I had a work phone which used to
be a personal phone. I just got tired answering it,
(08:14):
so I kept migrating, and finally, after years, I got
rid of just twenty three eleven number I had, which
used to be the company.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It was all over the sign.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, and I got rid of that. Well, when they
started the two factor identific identification stuff, that was the
phone number that all these old accounts had on it,
and that's where they sent it to. Well don't have
a phone anymore. Apparently nobody has that phone because I
was texting it, going, this is going to sound like fraud,
but I need I need y'all to send me this code.
(08:42):
And I put y'all in there, so they didn't know.
I wouldn't going you all, you know. So it was
I was trying and I didn't hear back from them,
and I can't go get the number back, and I man,
you try to call Google and get a person, and
these website and get a person, and Microsoft can get
a person.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, so yeah, I had to call it. I ordered
a pool cleaner the other day and they wanted me
to call and I called a check on the order
and they said, you're you're gonna be talking to an
AI virtual assistant.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
No I ain't. No, I ain't gonna do you think
I am, but I ain't.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Not gonna do it wouldn't be prudent.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, it's it's uh so, you ordered a pool cleaner.
I'm like, how long take him to get there? It's
a short not a pool boy, but a pool cleaner.
Don't get pool I ordered a pool cleaner too, that
I don't. I think it's I think it's wizard stuff.
It's some copper I on solar power, blah blah blah.
And that made a bit of difference. Came somebody told
(09:42):
me to buy one, so I bought one. It rains
hard last night. I'm pumping the pool out about as
fast as the water was coming down. I'm trying to
(10:10):
get me a system down over here on this recording
thing is last week's show on the on the YouTube
channel that was missing the fourth segment. I'm sorry, Paul,
but somehow or another I forgot to click record on
the video.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You had all those visual aids.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, you know, you can't get good help these days.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I got to the end, I'm going, boy, that YouTube
video sure looks a lot shorter than it normally does.
And I went back and I'm like, oh man.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well we missed all the all the discussion about Zara,
spooks and pop ours and we'll do it again.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Can I do a real quick plug here?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Uh so we we could carry the we we we
have the major morale as a local used to be.
It's back in the day there was the tallahassee bull
and it's been a couple of the papers. Yeah, so
so we have them here in the store. We're one
of the we're one of the sponsors, and we put
ads in there. And Chris stopped by today and wanted
to mention that they do, in fact sell subscriptions to
(11:04):
this paper. You can get it mailed out to you.
It's a funny paper. It's nothing, there's no hard news
in here. It's got some cool stories and pictures and
memes and funny jokes.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And that lant conservative.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It is very conservative. And the biggest audience for this
is military. It's got a lot of military jokes and
fun stuff in it. But anyway, twenty three dollars a
year for the subscription. And he wanted me to point
out in there that if you there's a there's a
subscription thing on the back of the paper here where
you can fill it out and send it in with
your twenty three dollars. And if you get the paper
(11:36):
mail to you on a subscription, there is in the
in the.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Paper here there's some talent a right, yeah, there's.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Talent ad right there. Look at there. There is a
there's a place in here where you can buy or
you get cupons for local Tallahassee restaurants. You get five
dollars off at Kusha's, which is and you get a
let's see a dozen nuts for five ninety nine original
(12:03):
Blaze Krispy.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Kremes, I get thirteen dollars now yeah normally.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, exactly. And you can get a coupon for by
one get one half off platter at El Jalisco. It's
a good Mexican restaurant. A couple of several locations, got
a Wahoo free appetizer, and you get five dollars off
at Willie Jewels, which is a great barbecue joint. So
that in and of itself makes you money. If you're
if you have a subscription and you get one with
(12:28):
these with the coupons in there. And if you come
into the our store to talent and you don't take
one one of the free papers off the rack over there,
and you ask and say, hey, can I get one
of the special uh major morale papers, I'll give you one.
So if you want to come here to the store
and get one, we'll give you one with the coupons.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Sham wow, sham wow. But wait, there's more.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Wait, there's more now, anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
For one du I special in there here you good Ford.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Two DUIs for one. Yeah, I was drunk once. I
don't know how I got yours twice.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I mean we've got you've got football season coming around
the corner.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean, yeah, you know it's worth it. Just if
you get the subscription paper, it's worth it. It's got
the coupons in there at good places. And I was
told that, uh told you there's a high, high probability
that Summers Barbecue is coming on as a sponsor. And
we'll probably also have at some point in time have
a coupon in there, which is the barber joint right
down the road from the range here. That's awesome, right.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Going good. Yeah, I love going down there. I know
about this Summer's Barbecue. The old Riverfront Saloon. Yeah, you
know iticed the Riverfront Saloon. A lot of your clients
started out hall night there.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You have made a lot of money off the Riverfront.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I've got the diagram of it somewhere in court.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You walk down there, now, take a tour. I mean
it's it's the same building that's just back where the
pool tables were. Eat.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Now I walk in there and go yeah, I got
in a fat right in that corner right over there.
One time I saw somebody jump off the top rope
with a with a beer bottle and bust somebody.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Is one of a few restaurants that I go in.
I didn't had the first time I went under to eat.
I'd had to ask for the bathrooms were I knew.
I knew, And I walked around there and went, oh,
I remember this, Yeah, a little bit I've seen. I've
seen people drug out. You know, It's one thing to
get kicked out the main door. It's another thing and
get took out the side door because there was remember
(14:19):
there was a privacy fence around part of that. You
didn't want to go out that door because that's where
you got.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Your got funked.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
That's where you got whooked before you left.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
So yeah, that was a I'll never forget that night.
I walked in there about eleven o'clock, had got off
work and throwed the cowboy hat on and took off
out there. And they had that little that little set
of steps and kind of a standing sitting area looking
out towards the stage, and there was a set of
steps right when you first walked in. I don't know
why they were there, but they were. And I saw
this old girl come off about step number.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Five and missed the rest.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
No, no, she come off the top with a empty
long neck bottle and went right upside somebody's head with her.
I mean it looked like Dusty Roads American Dream coming
off the top rope with atomic elbow and bus that
Budweiser bottlecross and then it was a man. It just
all of a sudden was a heck of a fight
right there. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Apparently she had seen him, she.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Had done got angry about something.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
He was loving up on somebody else and that I
didn't know she was there, I imagine, because that was
the thing you had to watch around. He had little
around Seue Hall was there some nights and you go
in that place and you had to take the temperature
to place, and there's nights when you go I think
I'm gonna go over the cowboys tonight. Not cowboys, the moon,
the moon.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I'm going somewhere else tonight.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
That oh is in the early nineties.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Early nineties and the Garth Brooks stripe yep, Western.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I were talking about the bottle INSI that's.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Probably isn't early nineties. It had to be probably ninety one.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
You were prosecuting then, weren't you.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I think, yeah, it was it.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I just kind of stepped through the side because I
was off work at that point and having a cool
adult beverage of my own, and I'm just sitting there
watching that going well.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I was a I would as you know, and from
pertional experience, I was a regular there too during that
time when we were at f s U Police And
then I went to the Lynn County Sheriff's office and
I got told we don't go there, We don't go there.
Off due there and they knew who was out there.
If you went out there, they would you would. I
(16:17):
came from our Watson you know that our employe't you know,
And it came down and go, hey, you were at
the rear front the other night. I was, yeah, they
don't want you out there anymore. Mike. Did they call
and complain about something? You know, somebody you were a
witnessed that being out there. I will I want to
know who told on me because they were out there,
you know, because like when they started to remember they
(16:39):
started the topless bar, bottomless bar or something here's down
and the and the first because it was against Lowaby topless,
so that a bottomless bar. And the first night they
opened was all law enforcement. There wasn't a single civilian, isn't.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
There they were watching for their twelve hour shift.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well they wanted to they wanted to shut them down,
and so they had to, you know, well how else
to keep the public out, but to send all to
fill it up with cottas and then everybody out. I
just wonder how long No.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Fanny's was the one back in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Right the White Drive and Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Not that I knew that well, and that's that that
I know the history of this. Well, so so what happened.
That's when they got rid of topless because Fannys was
the topless dancing place. So they passed county ordinance said
no topless dancing. Well they didn't say anything about bottoms
and the ordinance that the So this guy, this is
the Cafe Risque guy, the one seventy five, you know,
we beer all and so he opened up the bottomless
(17:34):
joint and then Willie and uh and I think Larry
Campbell's sheaf at the time, he sent, you know, his
finest deputies to go in there and conduct surveillance to
ensure that they were in fact dancing bottomless, and they were,
and uh so they watched them for twelve hours just
to make sure that they were really bottomless.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
And when they probably the beer sales were pretty low
that night. We're trying this, wouldn't we want to know?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
You got to blend in.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You hold the same beer bottle for all those hours.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So then they called an emergency meeting of the County
and City Commission and passed an ordinance to make bottomless
dance and no nicked dance, no nicked dancing, and just
for good measure, they wanted to define what exactly you
could dance in and that's when they outlong.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
If you read it's almost like it's about I mean,
you just lead it, or you read that ordinance and
you're like, I don't think I should be reading this.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
It's they modeled it after the one in Saint John's County,
which and it's about a couple of pages long, defining
the area.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Don't don't get don't get too far into it. The
family shows. I mean, I know it, you know, right, Yeah,
you can still find out ordinance still on the books.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
And it's on there. I don't think it's very it's
probably loosely enforced.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Me.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
You go to the beach today and then wear dental flaws.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, there's reading it. There are some bathing suits that
violate that, no question, and they're legal in public. But
you can't get in a bar.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Now you get up there and start dancing around on
that thing, you might have a problem. At least I
did last week.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I had drunk. I didn't mean to be drunk in public.
I meant to be drunk in a bar.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I was drunk in a bar. I was thrown into
public tater salad.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, so that's that's uh, that's our claim to fame.
That wasn't the That was in the nineties that all
that went down. I want to say ninety five.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Maybe then that would have been Sheriff Boone and under
Sheriff Larry Campbell.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
If I'm not that was.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And I was a deputy in ninety four, went to
Jackson County ninety five, came back in ninety six. I
got tired of putting all my relatives in jail. I'm
back over there now. I ain't worried about it, no
more than just they.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Have all gotten too old to cause much trouble.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Well, different kinds of trouble now. Now the wildest ones
just sit around weed. You know, it's all distant. Can
none of my close kN obviously I would. My family's
more forthright than all that. We don't. We don't have
that kind of stuff. That was the same year, and
I would not admit it if they.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Went after the adult video stores. Remember that one that
all happened the same time.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
No, I don't remember that. That's I really.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Don't know that. I used to hate get the calls.
We had to go in the back room with Rix toybo. Hey,
they got us, they gotta l and LTD. And I'm like,
I'm too far out Highway twenty. I got, you know what,
my tire slack. I gotta stoff off here are up
my tire ahead and.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Take that be about tim run. About ten minutes later,
I got to stop and put on my Tai Vix suit,
my has Matt suit before I go, oh, that was
this nasty.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Got somebody somebody stole videos from the back room and
we we we want you to come pat them down.
So I had it back there too long.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I had one of those L and L clients in
one of those rick storebox stores. And I can't remember
his name, but his name was the same name as
the guy who was doing some yard work, like once
a month he come do the hedges and the kind
of stuff. And so I hollered my secretary. I said,
give me, you know, Frank Jones's number, whatever it was,
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and so she gave me the number to the client,
not the yard guy. So I call up and the guy,
some dude answers the phone, says, I'm like, it's Frank
Jones there. He's not here, and I'm like, where is he?
I'm sorry he passed away. And I'm like, well then,
who the hell's been more on my yard?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And terrible friend?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Wrong guy, wrong guy. How it happens.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Well, I've seen you be more embarrassed recently in this studio.
All right, all right, we'll be back in amberday. So
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on the break you mentioned Fred and I wanted to
bring up because on the way in I heard it.
In fact, Hulk Cogan did pass away heart attack from
a yeah, heart attack, cardiac events they like to say nowadays. Anyway, Saday,
what if I go from a heart attack at seventy one.
I feel like I've made it.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
You know, I'd like to stare around at the Lord.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I would too, But if I make it, you know,
I'll be honest with you. I was like, I make
it to sixty eight, I'll be all right. You know,
if I make it to my mid late sixties, I
will accomplish it. I think I've accomplished everything I want
to accomplish now. Everything now is a bonus. I feel
like I'm being blessed with everything that happens right now
in life. So I feel like from this point forward,
I've done everything I wanted to do. I still want
to keep raising my kids. I want to see my
grandkids get older. I want to spend more time my wife.
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I want to accomplish some more things. I'm fine, I
do want to do all that. However, I feel like
I've had a pretty dog going good run and I'm
at the best place I've ever ended in my life.
So yeah, if I make it from fifty eight right
now and I make it another that would be another
thirteen years to seventy one. My Jackson County mouth is right.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I feel like I don't even like to think about
all that. But I do think about I mean, he
was it wasn't what a month ago he was up
on stage doing stuff, and I mean you've seen him
in public appearances and that kind of stuff. So I
just I think my biggest fear about dying is not dying.
It's not being able to function, to be the quality
of life, not quantity.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You don't want to sit around and fall apart for
eight or ten years.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
You want quality when I go.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I want to be with a bang.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, So there again, a cardiac event boom, and I'm gone.
I'm fine with that versus yeah, getting the big sea
and sitting around and being in pain and discomfort and
all that. I mean there again, you know, if I was,
if I was sitting around with a bad something going on,
I'd want to cling as long as I could for
my family and all. But you know, if I got
added the choice, I've had to choose, and it ain't
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in a gunfight, you know, it's a I want it
to be something else. I just I want to win
the gun fight.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I guess the other side of that is, I mean,
I'm gonna need like some time to do my confessions
and repentance.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
And you ain't gonna start now going on that.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I'm I got a lot explaining to do before it happens,
so I make sure I'm right.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
What I what I meant to say was remember that
time there's a there's a reason for it. Let me well,
I can see I can see.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
You if you've got to do penance for all your
dirty dirtiness in the in the world, Fred, it's gonna
it's gonna be a minute.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
That's a good thing about Christianity.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
On one conversation is all.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
The conversation is done. Yeah, that's why I.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Love my wife. You know, you talk about stuff like that,
and and and I'm getting back into something. I'm being
invited to go back and to do some fairly risky
activities for agency I'm affiliated with. And you know, somebody
asked my wife the other day, says, you, how do
you feel about Charlie going back into doing the whole
(25:05):
blah blah blah again where he's likely to get hurt?
And she said, well, he was. He was on SWAT
team when I met him, and you know he used
to he got in this and that and talked about
mine and Jad's situation. It ain't nothing new, So you know,
he's just having a good time, and and that's what
that's you know, that's what it was when we started,
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and maybe that'd be what it is when it is.
I don't know. I just you know, to me, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I don't know. There's things I did when I was younger.
I wouldn't even I look back and go, what on
earth was I thinking?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Oh? Yeah, I mean jump.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
It out of an airplane.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I mean we used to, see I ain't.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
We used to for fun. And I can I can
say this now because there ain't nobody around to beat
me for it. Uh. But my granddaddy, we would, you know,
when I was fourteen fifteen, sixteen years old, take my
grandady's bas boat and you know, I go go fish,
go play on the watermeme, my buddies go do And
we would get that boat up, running as fast as
it would go, which was probably fifty to fifty five
(26:04):
miles an hour, get as fast as it would go
down the river, put on a put on a life jacket,
a vest in a light check and jump out just
for just to skip across the top of the water,
which is probably why my back and neck and everything
else on me is so messed up at this point.
But that used to be just fun for us and
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just stupid things like that, And how I didn't get killed.
Jump up, find a bridge over a creek somewhere and
go go stick something in the water, see how deep
it was, and just jump off the bridge. I mean,
I've jumped off the bridge at oak Ladney River right
here on ninety you know and live.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yes, not everybody that's jumped off of it did.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah. Oh we swim all the way down to herb Dock,
way down the river.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
We'll be right back a We're back. Did the stories
(27:13):
got wilder on the break Fred jumping off stuff with
a tie?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
They closed that there was a high tower at the
high dyed thing. I think they've just got a ten
foot platform there now. They took the Tuesday at what
Color Springs. They took the two taller stories. They're talking
about jumping off bridges.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And six years old and you're jumping off that thing.
That was a big deal.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah. Oh if you was mad enough to go get
climb up there and jump off. Yeah, when you were
a kid at I did too. And like I said,
that's probably why I'm so so orthopedically messed up at
this point in time in my life is doing crazy things.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
When we were up in Georgia in uh for fourth July, like, Okayney,
they got this sain called jumping Rock. It's a rock
everybody jumps off of.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, it was probably worked hard to come up with
that name.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
It's Georgia.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I mean, don't ask him to spell it.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Don't ask thee and.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
It's cut the name of the lake. You sure ain't
gonna spell that.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, Lako is old cooney. But yeah, so uh had
had bow took my uh, my six year old granddaughter
who will is fearless now? The older one she got
it there, I'm wonna climb back down. But the other one, no, no,
we don't jump off that thing. We jumped off at
once and then you go again, go again.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, that's the problem with kids. I'm willing to I'm
still willing to do some of that crazy stuff one
time now. And then they were like, let's do it again. No,
let's don't.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, man jumped off that dog. You couldn't see the bottom,
so I don't know how deep it was. Probably pretty
somebody else jumped off of it. So I figured out
all right.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
As long as it was deep enough.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
It was deep enough.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
What the chances are they were heavier than you. Yeah,
it went deeper. I don't know if you're talking about
ballistics and stuff. You know, he's a small he's a
small projectile. He might actually.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Penetrate the projectile going toigh velocity. You never know who
might get some ran.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
We jumped off of it again. You had to run
because it kind of went down like.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
A slope, so you had to get some distance.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, she had to a run and start and clear.
So I grabbed my old six year old and we're
running as fast I'm grabbing her, and once we get
out in the air, she slams her head into me.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And see, if you were real smart, you'd have done
a couple of whirly worlds around and just slung her.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah. Well, no, I was going with her down. So
as soon as we get out into the end of
the air, she's knocking heads with me as I'm going down,
and you know, I'm my ears are ringing, and you
looked through it.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
No, I'm gonna just throw you this time.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I hope my kids have have grandkids early enough in
in their in my life or in their life or whatever.
To where I can uh just turn them into Oh.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It's so much fun.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, I really I really want to be able just
to do that kind of stuff with grandkids and make
them just pure rotten and give them back.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Oh yeah, you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
That's that's that's part of the.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I teach you. The other one the other day going
to guess what chicken butt? You know, she's going home,
says that to her parents. Got a phone called.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
H I got grandkids and listening to some of the
things comes out of their mouth, It's funny, you know.
The little girls just just precious and funny and they're
way too smart. And you know, I remember watching you know,
all my kids growing up and it just and recently
when my thirteen year old son CJ. He's looking at
all these old videos and stuff that they're popping back
(30:27):
memories and on and now he's he's thirteen. I mean,
he's a smart kid. He's in all the you know,
makes the good grades and these ventures whatever thing program
he's in. And they my wife asked me, they was,
you know, they're going on a venture trip to Washington,
d C. This year and I'm not going. Are you
going with them? And it wasn't. It wasn't a question,
It was a and you're going It came out of
(30:47):
her mouth, is are you going with him? What she
meant was you are going with him?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
And she just mess That's kind of like why I
went to New York. It's not because I wanted to
go to New York. It's because I wasn't gonna let
my wife and my kids go to New York without
me being there.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
So I had to go talk to my son and go,
you know, you got to keep your head. You've got
to keep your grades up, son, or do you want
to be going to Washington, d C. This this year?
And he goes, yeah, I know, daddy, I know when
I said, And that would just be a tragedy if
if we didn't have you, I mean, if we didn't
get to go.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
By the way, remember I told you had to be
in bed by ten. We're gonna move that back to
you're a little bit older.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Midnight, there's a video games still later at night.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
You'll be all right, I'm not feeding any breakfast, and
you ain't got to study, and.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You'll be you know, you don't need to make straight
a'e son, You just you just You'll be fine. You know,
you're probably not going to law school be a doctor anyway.
You just you're not interested in that stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
He can do anything school.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, I ought to keep me from having to go
to Washington, d C. Although I've been twice in my life.
Once on I think it was an Armor's trip, went
up there, and once once when I was about eight
or nine, ten years old, you know. And the only
reason I remember going the second time because I remember
going to Vietnam Memorial and going to the Korean Memorial
and all that stuff, which didn't exist when I was
(31:58):
a kid, So I know I had to have gone
on another time. Other than I don't really remember about
about it because I didn't really do a lot of tours.
It's one of those business trips or hey, let's running
there and take check out blah blah blah blah, moaland
let's get out of there. I want to say it
was me and Tommy Gore, but I'm not. It was
somebody on a on a I went up there to No,
it was we went to Virginia. I was at the NRA,
got to the NRA Museum in Virginia, and I had
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to go over into Washington, d C. Because you know
it's right there, but you know it's we ain't flying,
So I do.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
What taking a train taking us?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
What are you taking a train up there? How you
getting in the Washington drive?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Drive? Yeah, that's a long drive.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
My brother took a train up there.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I drove up there.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Is there a train that goes up there?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You get on Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Oh, I ain't going to Jacksonville on train.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Sleep.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Okay, well, Hiver they go and they'll probably go on
a bus or some vands or something.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Was in the seventh grade we took a train.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I'm just thinking of them throwing you in a box
car somewhere and wondering where you're gonna fall out.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
With tyl of Hay in the back, you know, Fred
with his hou Fred got boo bag over his shoulder.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
You know, well, I met up with a gambler.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Both too tired to sleep.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
They're both ups, too tired to sleep. But it is
final words. I found an ace.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I congratulation Rogers just you need no one to hold
your mouth. Apparently didn't learn.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I'm kind of looking forward, but watching my son go
through those phases in life where he started saying smart stuff,
you know, that made me contemplate things and made me
consider things. And you know, he wouldn't ask questions.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Like what if C A T really spells dog? No,
not like that, Yes from the Nerds movie The Nerds
Come on people, Yeah, come.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
On, yeah. But you know it's it's interesting in watching
and now grandkids are another opportunity, and that they're finally
getting to the age where they're starting to I wouldn't
say think critically, maybe be critical, but not think critically,
but that times and I enjoyed that part of watching
my kids when they started asking me real questions, you know,
(34:05):
and it made me It's kind of like what I
like teaching so much is when and jad you know,
just when you are teaching someone a skill, and at
some point in time we all teach something. I mean,
I don't know anything about fishing, but I know, Paul,
that's what you do. Fred. I don't want to consider
what you might be teaching people the but you know,
(34:25):
you're trying to explain things and go over things. And
so when I ask a legal question and you're trying
to explain it to me, it's those things where I see,
you know, somebody asked me a question. I go, Okay,
I see where the gears are turning. I see what's
going on in your head. Now, let me see if
I can put it in some sort of perspective for
you and children and grandchildren an opportunity to go back
and do that and try to get them on a
(34:46):
track that maybe I didn't pick up on. Took me
a long time to get there, and that's your opportunity
to go put them leaps and bounds ahead of where
you were in that area. Let me show you what
it took me all these years to figure out, and
let me explain it to now. You ain't going to
listen to me, But one day you're gonna go back
and go Daddy or Papa said this, and now it
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makes sense.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I'd talk about that with my kids all the time.
It was like, look, I'm not gonna tell you anything
that I haven't learned from the school of hard knocks experience.
Now you take what you want to out of what
I just told you, But I'm telling you you know
you're making a mistake or you're gonna regret your decision
because of this and try to relate it. But you're right.
(35:28):
They don't there's a huge segment of society that will
not take good advice from the right people. And they
just got to touch that stove, you know. I mean,
they got to touch the stove and see if it's hot.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, I mean that question you brought up. I mean,
I remember one of my kids was insomniac, dyslexic, agnostic
once and he asked questions. He said, been laying awake
at night, wondering if there really was a dog.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
The good one friend. I like that.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Oh man, that's deep. That's deep. It's deep and full
of and full of something. It reminds me of Dusty Miller,
my old sergeant on patrol. Dusty used to tell these jokes.
And he was a super sharp guy, super smart. He
either loved you he hated you, and if he hated you,
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you knew about it. But if he loved you, he
treated you good as gold. And he loved me. And
it's why my oldest daughter's name's Dusty. I mean, he
treated me good as gold. And but you'd sit and
check on and he would tell these stories a lot
of times. I had audio murphy him and stuff. He's
old school, and he would tell these jokes and I
would laugh at him because I got them. You look
around the room. Not everybody got him. It took it
(36:42):
took a minute. It took him minute sometimes and uh
old Roger Fields are a lieutenant, and he would you hear
him every now and then, and you tell he got it.
And it wasn't all of us, but he got much.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
It's a driving anchor.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I'm sort of blinding. Show me where you see the
sentencing of the coburger guy this week? Yes, I did.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
That's the guy that killed all the college kids.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I mean it's and there's a few more facts revealed
about this thing guy. Apparently it's going on Amazon looking
for another Cabar knife because he lost his. He's gonna
do it again.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Well, of course that's what serial killers do. I can't
believe that they let that guy off that easy. I
can't either, and I'm sorry. I mean, it's not easy.
He's getting multiple life sentences or whatever else.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
But if there was ever a case that deserves.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
They let it, well, they let him. They let him
plead guilty to it without a confession. And usually yeah,
that doesn't go that way.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, you always do that, I mean you it's got
to be a proper right and allo allocution as well.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I also couldn't believe that that one of the relatives
of one of the girls gave the guy, gave him
her phone number and just basically said, if you ever
feel like you need telling me, you need to talk
or whatever while you're sitting in jail, here's my phone number.
If you want to ever call me and tell me
why you did this or what this was all about.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
You know, it's like asking the devil why he's evil.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean, well, it's it's it's
a messed up world we live in. That's just the
bottom line. That's why, that's why you want to go
fishing and just forget about it.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Beyond comprehension that somebody could do that to some other
young human.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Being, anybody.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, and just for for kicks.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Basically, what do you get out of that.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
When we talk about an active shooter training on one
of our slides as predator, prey and protector, and we
talk about the predator, we're not talking about a guy
stealing gas out of your tank or breaking in and
getting something out of your house. The predator is that
person that is a truly evil person, and evil exists
in this world. If you believe in if you believe
been good, you believe in grace, you believe in there
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is a Every coin has an opposite side, yeah, and
so there is in fact evil in this world. And
I've riden an elevator with a serial killer, and you
can just feel it coming off of him. I mean,
it's it's it's nasty, it's bad. But you don't feel
that when you're out fishing.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
So that's true.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
That's true. Being out on a boat and fishing, it
makes you feel closer to God, not closer to right.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
It sure does, and you get you know, that's one thing.
I'm going this morning early and a little cloud. He's
been so hot, but this morning it was cool, the
wind was blowing, and just grateful to be able to
be out there, didn't have nobody, just going out looking
for some for some brim beds. And man, I tell
you they have in the last week. I've seen more
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new brim beds than I have since made when they
usually start, it's very unusual. And I found one I
was telling j D about. It's probably as big as
a whole lobby of the of the range here it's huge.
And when I found it earlier this week, there was
two stumps. There was probably about forty potholes round big stops,
about forty potholes around it, and there was brim on it.
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And I found another stump there was just brim around it,
but not not up. Now that whole place is about
half an acre full of blue gills, little blue gills
and shell cracker mixed.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Got it like that?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Never seen that, you know.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I know they a brim and blue gill bet all
the way in this September, but I just seems like
in this past week there's just more a lot of places.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, it's it's a water cloudy.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
It's starting to clear up. I'm thinking that might be
one of the reasons we it's actually cleaning up a
little bit. It's getting clear and clear. Okay, I don't
know all this rain.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
We've been getting.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Five inches at the house of the night.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
I don't know what we got here at the range
day before yesterday, but it come a frog strangler that
a couple of days ago. In the afternoon. We had
a good rain today, but I mean the other afternoon
it was one of those things where I walked outside.
I'm looking for a funnel cloud or something, because the
wind was blowing fifty sixty miles an hour and it
was raining. Like we ran outside. I started unclogging drains
(41:02):
and all this kind of stuff because it was it
was got. I mean we had yesterday, uh, yesterday, day
before yesterday waned yesterday.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, several days ago now, but.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, we had this Thursday, were recording the show. It
rained pretty hard here for it, but not for long,
not for long, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
It rained at the house Wednesday night. I had a
kiddie pool out in the chicken pen that was empty
except for some some Diutsch bacious earth on the Hate
Saturday whatever out there for them to d e. Yeah,
and and so there was. But when I went out
in the morning to feed them and check on them,
(41:44):
that thing was slam full a kiddie pool, and I'm
saying there was six inches of water in it that
wasn't in there to night before. I had to go
outside and turn the pool pump on and the drain
and let it pump the whole time it was raining
to keep the pool from overflowing. I mean it where
does it tout into the.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yard if it overflowed where we're to go in.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
The yard, but it would go it killed the grass
all the way around the pool instead of at the
other end of the drain line.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I'll explained after show. But there's a reason I don't
want it overflowing out of the pool, but I want
it pumped out of the pool.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
But underground, I don't have.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
An under I don't have a drain in that thing
that you know, it gets up to a certain level
where it keeps from overflowing, it overflows, it goes places
I don't want to go. Suffice to say, yeah, yeah,
well you got to so my pond's got water in again. Yeah,
because it got down to it turns into two ponds
when it gets too low and the cows are out
there up there's still deep enough. I didn't realize it's
(42:41):
a deep I look out there and all I see
is the cows back and his head sticking out of it,
and I'm like that it gets deep, then.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Let them go in that hole over there on the
other end, that sink hole in there.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Well, I'm down a cow. I'm not really sure where.
I'm just kidding, just kidding.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Charlie's got in his pond out there, there is a
there is a hole. I've seen that pond completely dry
except for that probably ten foot diameter hole out there
in the middle wishing.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I think my nephew quit quit quit fishing off the
dock and they started walking out to the water edge
of the water because you can now walk. The cows
hang out under the dock now on dry land. I mean,
and it was six feet deep there before. That's how
far down that pond is. With the drought we've had
this year. We've had a lot of rain when we
get rain, but now it's back.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Up where you got a pump in there.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
It's a it's a cow pont. It's just an agricultural pond.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
The uh, there's fishing, there's fishing.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
It never goes dry. I mean they go down in
a hole. There's sink down in there. They go down
in the hole, but there's there's bashing there. We we uh,
we seated that thing with some bass here several years back,
and they're out there catching bass on top waterlooers. They
ain't big, but you know whatever, if a dead gum
birds don't eat them all, I said j D. A
(43:55):
video the other day of a little pond behind the barn,
and what kind of it was about twenty something. They
was about twenty something of them out there, Yeah, eating
whatever was left in that.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Big old bill Yeah, white, big old white storks with
a black, big.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Old blacking shows up at your pond.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yeah they Uh, well.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Well that pond is connected to a creek, and when
everything's up, the fish come and go from the pond
to the creek. When it dries down, that it just
turns into a pothole and then whatever's left in there,
if it gets low enough the birds to come get it.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Is that why it's called Try Creek?
Speaker 1 (44:32):
No, the dry creek's up the road, and uh, I
don't know why it's called dry Creek. It's been called
Dray Creek.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
For a long, long long time, probably because you.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Can't get up and down it now. Because after Michael
came through, they cleaned up the Cipolo River where you
could go tubing from Spring Creek down to you know
certain areas and uh down near Bear Paw and all
that and clutter up the creek with trash and then
there's a but dry creek. They just didn't do nothing
for Dry Creek. I think a few locals went out
here and clean some of it up. But we used
(44:59):
to pull a john boat up and down that creek,
grab crawfish and fish and do all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
But some of it's on your property, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
What dry creek? New New that's through the woods a
little waste. Pelt Creek is on my property, which is smaller. Now.
They'd all call it dry creek. And when it gets dry,
it ain't no creek. It's ought to be called Pelt ditch. Yeah,
that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
So you been catching any basketball.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
I have that, I'll tell you what. Especially early morning,
late in evening.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
That's the only time I would want to be out
right now.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
That's when you need to be going. But today was nice.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Now.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
I was out there at about ten thirty and it
was very comfortable, that cloudy weather and that little wind blowing.
But guys, if anybody's wanting to get out there and
do some fishing this weekend, definitely brim fishing. They're bedding
for sure.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
You ever try to catch betting prim with a beetlespin
I have, and will they hit a beetlespin when they're
bedding like that? If you can get a beetlespin to them.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
And those shell cracker will for sure call them do cracker.
But blue gills if if it's a little bit deeper,
a little bit deeper bed, you can yeah, I've called them.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
That's that's that's beetlespin fishing. And like Lake Talc when
this time of year is if you can stand it,
you know, early in the morning, late in evening or
fly fishing, beetlespin fishing is just so much fun.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Yeah, that's I remember going to Late Talc when this
time of year growing up, to.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
The kid over there, my uncle having a lake house.
We'd go over there and just do nothing but beetlespin
early in the morning, late and evening for two or
three days. And you don't ever catch beal spin. You
don't catch little ones, that's right. You don't catch anything
but studs.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
You catch perch on them all the time. Yeah, perch
control for.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Perch, oh for for speckle perch.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Crappy crappy, crappycle a cycle.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Don't do that again.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Don't do it again.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
I said, we're going to do that again this.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
Yeah, but no, you go there and fish. There's deep
banks on the shady banks, out on taque for pulling
beetlespins with like two pound test line little miniature the
miniature tackle, super lightweight tackle.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Yeah, after the after when the grass lines start to
find it out, you can really catch them on semino
like that with beetlespins.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yeah, that's that is there is. I think if you
could make a ten pound brim and tie him to
a ten pound bass, a ten pound brim would drown
the ten pound bass pulling him backwards. They pound for pound,
they fight so much.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
There's a lot more cash. Football is around the corner,
Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah, we're like twenty something days away or less something
like that.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
Are we all Florida State fans?
Speaker 2 (47:30):
We got nowhere to go but up?
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm a Florida State fan. I'm gonna be
a toy I'm gonna be a Troy fan. My my
daughter just graduated from or from he's going to Troy.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Sir, congratulations there and we will see you all this time.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Is that the dollar around this year
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