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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And welcome to the town out door show. I'm Charlie.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm JD.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm having a Paul tar and I'm for it.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah, j anytime I do. Jeddy kind of smiles and
then he says, I'm JD. It's kind of like just
out of the blue, I go and welcome to the
town on door show.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm still JD, JD last week. I'll be JD next week.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hopefully I got a click record on two different devices
and get two clocks going, and I don't know if
it's gonna make noise at the end of the thing,
and we turn that down if I figure out how So, Yeah,
it's it's.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's another it's another week gone.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah wait quick it sure?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Did you telling me?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
We were bailing haitel that this last week? And somehow
or anothery're over in the cow pastor. I fenced I
put the electoral fence up and fenced off most of
my cow pasture because they don't have enough cows to
graze at all. And we were cutting hay and seed
off of it. JD's favorite grass. It's super improved Behea grasses.
Fixing the plant some riatta, Uh you wanna put some
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riata out there.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
J D.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Maybe he won't be that's like, that's like that's like
pencil CooA grass on steroids to tip the nine to
more steroids to longer, so there's a longer growing season.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Now I can't even go to Jackson County.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So until until there's a hard frost, that stuff's gonna
still be growing. So so around the cow pasture at
the bottom, I've put some fence, electric fence to keep
some some pigs in. And somewhere along the way one
of the wires reached over and are touching, like two
gates overs touching. Just apparently the electric fence box pretty
strong because it has elected has electrified the double gate.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Dow. Did you get shot?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Oh yeah, everybody that's gone through there has been shocked.
I think it got I got so it got the
sheriff the other day and it got.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That's nice.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Leave it alone. Let's set up a camera.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Oh man, Well, see the problem is is so we
we got we got all the hay bailed and I'm
doing the doing the hay on halves with Trenton Child's
he's got he's he's he does a lot of vegetable
stuff and it's got to shop over in grand Ridge
and seasonally they're open selling fresh produce and all that,
and so he was over doing the hay and I'm
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out there running a tether and and get a phone
call and say, hey, uh you're you're uh your gate's hot.
And I went, mm hmm, that's wonder what happened. And I,
you know, they had thrown a t shirt over it,
because just just keep people from getting shocked. I went
down there and I forgot and I reached over there
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and grabbed it, and it kind of buzzed me a
little bit. You know, if your time is right, you
can you know, because it pols is like once a second,
So if you just kind of touch it at the
right time, it won't get you. But you don't know
what time it is, yeah, so it once you know,
if you once you touch it, then you know, Okay,
it didn't get me. So you got about one Mississippi
to do it again and again and again. You can
move it. So I went down there and and I
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thought it was because it was wet. You know sometimes
when it's wet and the dude gets on some grass
and it'll cross from a hot wire to a ground wire.
And uh, well it wasn't because it was wet, because
I went down there when it was nice and dry,
and I said, I reached up there and I touched
the gate and it didn't get me, and I went, oh,
it ain't hot. So I threw the chain off and
it didn't get me. But so it's a double gate,
and I grabbed the hot gate and then I grabbed
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the ground the other not hot gate, and I went
to swing the gate open, so it went up my
right hand all the way to my left hand, so
you ran across me and it was like.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
You got six feet of Hello.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Break dancing.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And so today I left it. So I got home
yesterday and my half of the hay was still in
the field, so I had to go. I jumped out
there on the tractor that doesn't have any lights on.
It's only one with a hay spear on it. So
I ran out there and well, the other one had
lights on. We got a flat tire on the front.
So I jumped on the and I'm moving hay in
the dark last night, trying because I know the fertilizer
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man's coming today and you don't want to, you know,
you don't want to streak it up here. So I'm
driving around the fields last night in the dark, and
I go, okay, there's a shadow that was like a
hay bell. I'd run over there and stab it and
run it out of the field. Why do you put
on your night vision because it was at the house.
You don't even think about that. You know, that would
have been cool, like living hay with night vision. Man,
that would have been like too cool. And so because
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I got a helmet and all that stuff down it,
that would have been awesome tactical. I will do that next.
I would do that next time on purpose. So and
it and so it wasn't a cab tractor, so I
would have been able to seek. You can't see through
glass for that stuff, so I would have been able
to Yeah, I would have actually worked.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That was a perfectly glass with night vision. You can't
see the glass.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
With thermal, that's right, that's right, Yeah, yeah, that's right.
So can We had thermal in the shop yesterday we
were looking at and I could see myself reflecting back
in the glass. Anyway, So today the fertilizer left the
house and fertilizer go out there, just hauling up with
those big four wheel drive fertilizer trucks now, and I
was like, yeah, get the fertilizer route. Apparently he didn't
appreciate the fact he couldn't get into the cow past.
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So I just texted my kids and I said, run
down on to the dock. I don't know which one
of 'all's doing what, but like, I need you to
run down there asap and unplugged the electric fence by
the dock. And uh, I mean, it's an electric fence.
How bad does it hurt?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It hurt?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It gets you now, it hurt gets you.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
But if if, especially if you're a short guy and
you're trying to step over it and you happen to
get caught in the middle, well.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I've never been a short guy, not since I was
about twelve.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Does not feel speaking of vision, So I had to
go to the eye doctor this way. Something been wrong
with my left eyes been watering. I thought I had
pink eye or something was wrong with it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But you didn't bother to not come in here with it.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
No, I mean I got diagnosed. I have a an
ulcer on my cornea. Have you ever heard of that?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yesh?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, that's what I get when I get around behagrass.
I'm not kidding, No, I'm really serious.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I'm thinking that I went to Walmart, Circle K, Costco
and another place where you see ugly people and it
just strained my eyes stretched.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It out or a mirror store.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, and caused an ulcer.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
He's probably been shaving too often looking in the mirror. No,
shaving your face.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Looking could have done that. I mean running your cornea there,
it's it hurts and gave me some drops, but it's
still no.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I literally have reactions so bad the behea grass, I
will get ulcers on the white of my eyes.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Ever since she was young, since.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Growing growing up bailing hay, I would have to wear
goggles and bandana and take copious amounts of But but
what is it called benadrill? Because my daddy would not
give it, to give me a pass on bailing hay,
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it was. Yeah, I've taken every kind of every possible
kind of ana. Histamine or not stopper you get a mask.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Made me so sleepy, and so I would. I remember
being over at to Sullivan Place on a tractor and
literally I w wasn't even do anything with dirt. It
was I was spraying peanuts, and there were so many
weeds and stuff in the field, and the pollen was
so bad that I remember, and of course we're spraying peanuts,
and depending on how wide the sprayer is, and we
didn't run big equipment. We were small farmers. We did
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anywhere from six hundred to twelve hundred acres and at
the time pretty decent beside back then. And so you
have to be able to see because you say you're
spraying twelve sixteen rows, and you ride down and until
you spray peanuts a number of times your tire tracks,
aren't you After a while you can see where the
last time you went through there. Thing it's like twelve
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fourteen days something, it's been a long time since, like
farm peanuts, and you make the loop and come back around.
But before that you were having to count the rows
and then you turned at the end count those rovers
get back. So my allergies were so bad that I
literally couldn't see the hood of the tractor. My eyes
were swallowing up so bad that and it's not and yeah,
and tears and just and I couldn't rub my eyes.
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If I rubbed my eyes it would completely I just
I would have to stop, and there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Even before I was big enough to pick up a
square beel of hay and throw it on the wagon,
I could pick up, you know, pick it up maybe,
but I couldn't throw it on the wagon. That's you know,
chest hie off the ground or whatever, because there's those
old hay wagons are set on top of the tires.
They're not sitting loader of the ground. The one we
had was a big four wheel, four wheel wagon that
was sitting up pretty high. And I wasn't big enough
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to man up a bale of square bale of beagrass. Hey,
So I drove the truck pulling the wagon. We had
the wagon tied to the truck, and I was probably
ten or eleven years old driving that old sixty eight
Chevrolet pickup truck out there in the field, and my
eyes would swell shut inside the truck with the windows up, uh,
just from being out there. And how that's how allergic
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to it? I am, Charlie seeing it.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
But you all have one blade of that in your yard.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I will dig it up with the shovel before it
blow right the kids, just anybody else. It's not blooming
as long as it's not blooming. I'm fine for the
most part, unless there's a lot of dust or whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
From so to this. Yeah, I have to take an
allergy pill to live in Jackson County every single day.
I've got lost my blood pressure, medication, off of my
off of my stating from my cholesterol, and I am
I'm down to nothing but an allergy pill now. So, yeah,
that's what happens. You lose a lot of weight, you
don't start eating right, you don't have to take all
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that medication. Yeah, So the what are you looking at? For?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
You looking at timer over the.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, quit looking at the timer. It's distracting. I've got
a timer in my hand.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
It used to be that I couldn't see the timer,
but now you got all skinny over there, and.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Uh huh, you're seeing it with your one good eye.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, pretty much with your ulcered eye. I've got you
in my ulcered eye.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I got my I don't put your eye on me.
All right, we'll.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Hey before we get dranked off, Charlie on this next run,
I do want to good, I do want to mention
what we're going to talk about. Well, I got something
important to talk about.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Paperwork.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I know he's got good stuff too, But I got
something really important to talk about August thirteenth, eight thirty am,
which I don't know what day of the week that is,
but if y'all want to look at.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
It, it's a Wednesday because it's my birthday.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Birthday early Fred. But I got something you can do
on your birthday August thirteenth, eight thirty in the morning
at the Pat Thomas Law Enforcement Academy whatever they call it,
the TCC North Florida.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
T SC State College out there pat.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Pat Thomas Academy out here between Midway and Quincy on
Highway ninety. At the academy FWC, the Fishing Wildlife Commissions
Commission is having a meeting, an open forum meeting for
the public, and they will be discussing bear hunting and
the potential of a season for certain areas of the
state for certain number of bear to be to be hunted.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
And.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
It had, Yes, we've been to one of those meetings
in the past, the last bear season they had, and
it really doesn't matter. So here's the here's the issue.
Because there's a lot of people out there and I'm
one of them. I have no desire to bear hunt.
I have turned down many opportunities to go out of
state and go bear hunting. I don't have the desire
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to hunt a bear because I really don't want to
eat bear, even though I've heard it's good and all
this other stuff. I've never eaten beer. I don't really
want to eat bear. I like pig, cow, and deer meat.
So I'm happy and that's why I hunt. The problem
with what's going on is you have several things you have.
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I don't necessarily agree with the way the biologists for
the state gather their data on bear population. They basically
ride around in the woods and areas where there's bear
and they look for bear tracks, and they if they
don't find any bear tracks on the dirt road, they
say there's no bears there. They count the number of
different bear tracks they find along certain stretches of dirt
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road out in the national forest. That doesn't sound very
scientific to me. Take that for what it is worth.
That's that's JD's opinion.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Judge deer population on how many tracks of deer you
say crossing the road? It's just rightsus.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
The other right there there is that that can't be
anything remotely scientific. The way I believe scientific data is
gathered that that can't be the basis for it, but
they will anyway. So there's a huge debate about the
number of bears we actually have and do we have
a huntable population do we not have a huntable population.
But I think that I know that's how they gather
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their data, and that ain't right. So you've got false
information probably coming from that. And anyway, like I said,
that's JD's opinion. What this has turned into in other
parts of the state and along the way when you
have the anti hunters, and this is what I'm trying
to address, is there are people, a lot of people
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in our state that have moved to our state recently
that ain't from here, ain't from around here. We've had
this giant influx of population from all over the country,
but mostly from the Northeast come in here. They are
in some of these meetings that they've had in South Florida.
There have been movements to ban bow hunting, hunting with
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a bow and era because it's cruel and inhumane. Come on,
So when.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Did that happen?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Thousand years We've been doing it.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, humans since since humans have.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Been able to put sure they start the meeting out
with an acknowledgment that we're on stolen land from the
Native America. I'm we want to ban bow hunting, but
we want to acknowledge that we took the land.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
From my point of this is that the the the
hunting the anti hunters are doing the same exact strategy
that the anti gun crowd has always done, and that
start with one little piece of the puzzle, and if
they can take away that one little piece of the puzzle,
then they go after the next piece of the puzzle,
and eventually it is that they're in goal. If you
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can get one of them to be honest with you,
their end goal is to absolutely ban all hunting and
fishing and fishing. There are these groups that because it's
cruel to the fish for it to put a hook
in his mouth, it's cruel to the fish. It's cruel
to the fish that if you pay attention to articles
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on the internet that they're that they're blasted. I see
these articles all the time on on Instagram where they'll
tell you how much pain a fish is in before
it dies after you throw it on the ice. When
you catch the fish and throw it on the ice.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I've never heard him say.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
It hurt, so we should start shooting.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Fish and instantly killing them. So but my point is
these people, these people are crazy. It's the bottom line
is these people are crazy. They don't believe that that
God put these creatures other creatures on the earth. The
Bible says that God made the beast of the earth
for our benefit as humans. We're supposed to take care
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of We're supposed to we're supposed to honor them, take
care of them, not abuse them. All this stuff. But
they're here for us to eat. We have dominion over
the fish of the sea, and the foul of the
air and the beasts of the earth. And my point
is that these people don't believe that they want you
to eat vegetables or vegetables whatever. Only they're against anything
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any kind of any kind of animals. Okay, they don't
want you to hurt so but this is all small
steps toward us. And if we, as sportsmen, outdoors people,
or just people with a little bit of common sense,
don't stand up to these people in these meetings, they
will outnumber us, out shout us out, show their honey
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over they will and it makes it look like whether
we believe, whether we are the majority or not, the
people that feel like we do, whether we're the majority
or not, they're going to be louder and show up
in bigger numbers because most of them don't have jobs.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
They don't I mean, but if you look at the
organization like Ducks Unlimited, Quail Unlimited.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Quail Forever, National Deer Associations, the Turkey c A, all
of them, all of the I mean, all of those organizations,
these are people like us who.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Give our money that we earned in our jobs and
and contribute, and we've done more to preserve.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Habitat, habitat and numbers. My granddaddy, if my granddaddy was
that raised me, was born in nineteen eleven. Yeah, a
man that raised me was born in nineteen eleven. And
I remember as a child him telling me there's so
much more game deer. He said, you never saw deer.
He grew up North Fida. He grew up in North
Florida and Washington County, born in nineteen eleven there, and
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he said, we never saw deer. We never almost never
saw ducks. We almost you know, the very few animals
because there was no conservation movements. There was no conservationists
like we are. There were no sportsmen, there were no
so people, and there were no laws. So people just
went out there eating whatever is there. They're killing everything
they see and family. Nothing was managed. Well, now we've
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done better. We've done better. Sure, the populations are very
healthy for the most part, and any time that there's
not a healthy population, we need good science to come
in and say, Okay, guys, you shouldn't be keeping any
red snapper this year, or you shouldn't be keeping groupers.
They don't if they do it fairly. If they do it, yes,
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if they do it fairly and measure it correctly.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I mean you can go out there now, throw a
book down and get a snapper, right, and they're trying
to a group hyper protected. Yeah, and when you go
nuts like that and the studies are flawed.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Correct And that's what that was my point about the
bear about the bear study. When you're having bears encroaching
on humans in town in Caravelle and eventually somebody's gonna
get eaten, and it's already happened in Florida. We've already
had bear attacks. We've already had because they're not afraid
of humans. They don't stay in their environment. They're gluttons.
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Bears are gluttonous creatures. They will eat until they can't
eat anymore. I've watched bears sit down in a pile
of corn and just eat until they can't eat anymore,
and then they go evacuate their system and come back
and eat some more. They're glutting us, just like a hog.
But there's manageable numbers. I don't want to see bears extinct.
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I don't want to see them go away. I want
us to have bears. I like the fact, but they
need to have a fear of humans. Look what's happened
to alligate the alligator population since they started allowing alligator hunting.
There's more alligators now and there was where when all
the kid when they were highly protected and we hunt them.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
You got them crawling out.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Of them everywhere.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
If there's a wet of.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Course, pond and eating an old woman walking.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
A poodle, if there's a if there's water and we're
in Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, there's probably an alligator
in there.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
There's an alligator in my ponds. I found out out
the other day, I'm like, what, I went out there
and I don't remember him being there. I got to
buy a four foot alligator out there.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, but and that's I mean, you know, Paul, growing
up as a kid on Lake Seminole, I remember seeing gators,
but you didn't see them in the numbers that you
see them now now that we're hunting them and that
they're a commodity and people pay money and come to
our states and buy licenses to go kill an alligator,
there's more of them now than there's ever been. It
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looks like a durned city. At night. You go shine
a light across Lake Commonia and there's nothing but just light,
red light, red eyes everywhere.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It's problem with the problem with bears. The problem with
bears is that you know, the ones out in the
National Forest aren't really unless you live out there, They're
not bothering anybody. So you have a bear hunt, that's
where people go hunt. They're gonna go out there where
they can find a bear, where the bears are creating problems.
And this is just me thinking, like nuisance alligators, there
are nuisance bears, but you don't go kill a nuisance bear.
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You go capture it and you can move it down
the road, and then it comes back. I've seen it
happen where they come back and ate a woman's little
winter dog in her yard one night, and that down
that bear I found I had been captured before in
the same area and relocated down.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
There has been a bear and there has been a
bear in my neighborhood in the last two months in
clar Lake. In claren Lake. Really yeah, so you've seen
pictures of people's ring.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
The nuisance bears a golf course. I don't know, because
once a bear, like anything else, if you feed an alligator,
he's dangerous right now. He's dangerous because he doesn't differentiate
between you and what you've been feeding and your dog
and anything else. He sees you moving. Oh, that's food coming.
They're gonna feed me. If a bear wants, a bear
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figures out that I can get in these trash cans,
I can get in this, I can eat these, eat
these critters in their yard, or eat their dog or something.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Associate that location with food.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
They have now. I mean, so these are the same
people that that get out there, and you know, not
all of them, because you know they're they're animal lovers.
But there are a lot of people to go, well,
you know, there's the minute the dog bite somebody, you
have to put them down. You know, a dog bit
somebody got to put them down. Well maybe the dog
had a reason, you know, But I'm I'm not necessarily
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a big fan of that concept. But what I will
say is that, uh is the minute the bear finds
out that people means.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Food, they're dangerous meat food and.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Mean food, they are now dangerous and eventually they're going
to do and they're going to be a nuisance. So
those are the ones to me that should be.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Just put it this way, there's there's enough of them
to hunt and sustain the population. We should allow it. Period.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Okay, all right, well we'll be we'll be back in
just a minute.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
So we're talking about the bear hunting and the folks.
If y'all are in the Wiregrass area and you want
to come over, we'd love to have you if you're
If you're a hunter and you're because this isn't just
about it's honestly not just about the bear hunting. It's
about this is one small piece they can take away.
They're not going to be satisfied with at.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
All, anytime they make movements to limit or restrict hunting, fishing,
any kind anything that traditionally we as red blooded Americans did.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And still do right to be able to do.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The people who are at you shouldn't eat meat, shouldn't
eat meat. You know, life is important, We shouldn't kill anything.
And then they go out and as anybody, they have
no idea the amount of biomass, the amount of insect life,
and the amount of life. At what point you have,
what do you define as life? If you don't want
to take life in order to feed life, what do
you define as life?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Life?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Well, when when you go out and plow up a field,
how many mice and snakes and rabbits and I mean,
how much life are you taking just by plowing a
field in order to grow the very food? And they go, oh, well,
it should be organic farming. We should allow the wildlife
to say, say you're going to get to eat all
those buggy buggy plants and stuff. Oh well we should.
You can't do that on a mass scale. It doesn't work.
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Agriculture doesn't work like that. You can't go out and now, yes,
rotational grazing and non right, Well, when you are growing
when your brows are grazing for cattle. There's a movement
now to going towards instead of a monoculture grass like
behave grass and your pastures. They're letting other things come
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up and there's some good stuff out there's nutritious. It
doesn't have to be pretty to be a cow pasture.
And you're starting to see a lot of people get
back to rotational grazing. There's a movement for that, and
it's beneficial for the cow, it's beneficial for the environment,
it's beneficial for people, and it's not as intensive use
of fertilizer and things like that. Yeah, that's that's coming
back around, and that's that's smart farming is what that is. However,
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you can't grow soybeans and wheat and peanuts, and you
can't let let the weeds come up in the middle
of it because that's not how it works. And you
have to kill the insects. They're killing that and and okay, well,
we can come up with ways to make things less.
It's up with the weeds. We can bio engineer things,
genetically modify things. Oh, we can't do we can't have
GM stuff. We can't do that. We can't genetically modify anything.
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It's it's it's like they're not hungry, and if they
got a little hungry, they'd shut up.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Well. There's some of the same people, though, Charlie, that
think that the human population needs to be finned out
by a half or we need to start whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
They're the ones we need to start with.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
There are some of the same people that the Gates
of the Bill Gates of the world that think that
there's a that need that the population need.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It would be a good start if they want to
believe it.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
If you don't believe there are people in this world
that think we are to have mass extermination of a
lot of a whole lot of humans. Get read.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
It just starts talking about jeans and genetic stuff. So,
I mean, I don't know, Sydney Sweeney might come around here.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
And she's got good jeans.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Got some good jeans, my lord.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, it's it's crazy to me the things that the left,
the left.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
They just got to find something to get wound up about.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
And what are we going to be mad about today?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Geens.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, they put up on hair, blue eyed girl and
in a jeans commercial.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
These people are like you know, I'm just so offended
as a brown person, and I'm like, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I mean, I'm I'm I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
But here's the thing. We wouldn't have got offended if
they'd have used a brown person to advertise their blue jeans.
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
There's good jeans. I mean, I mean, my wife's Indian,
she got good jeans.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Feather Yeah, well, I mean, but still it's it's it's
crazy the world we live in. And yeah, some of
these the biggest uh, people that are against things like
hunting and that want you to eat tofu every for everything,
and yeah it's horrible. Uh, but the people that want
you to do that are the same ones that will
go to get on their private jet or get on
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whatever to go, you know, or wear plastic shoes. Where
do you think the plastic comes from? It comes from
old wells people.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
They their carbon credit, so there's some for every mile
they went on their jet. There's some dude living in
a mud hunt and Uganda.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Do you know how many do you know? How many?
Do you know how much biomass you destroyed to grow
the cotton, the natural cotton and the and yeah, yeah, yeah,
all that's yeah, how many pesticides we use and such decides.
We used to do that stuff, and so you can
feel good about what you're wearing, you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
They call it organic, Yeah, and what is that? What
does that mean? It's an organism, So I mean pretty
much it's tables organic. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I'm here.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Yeah, I mean we'll be back in just a minute.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Everybody, where were we where we're left? We were talking, okay,
we're talking about bears, and on the bottom I we
went somewhere else and now, well we're back.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I just want to remind everybody August thirteenth, eight thirty am,
if you got the time and you believe in the
ability for us to hunt and fish, show up at
the commission meeting and speak and or at least just
show up anyway.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
So I can tell you you're.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Going to be somewhere sipping a fruity boat drink.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I will. But based on the way you described that,
I think I have an example of some of the
opposition that the hunters might see when they go there. Okay,
so just to kind of give you a little background,
I'm coming into work this week and listening to Preston
and he brings up this lawsuit. Of course, you know me,
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anytime Preston talks about the law to tune in, I
perk up because I can argue with him. You know,
he didn't hear it, but yeah, but I'm arguing with him.
And so you know, Press is not a lawyer, but
he looked up this case and I'm like that that
sounds like something out of the Babylon b There's.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
No way onion.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, and so I didn't. I got into work early
that day, so I didn't have an appointment of court
or anything. So I immediately went to my desk and
looked up the lawsuit that he was talking about. And
the lawsuit is in Washington State, Seattle Federal Court. And
this woman named Lauren Ann Lombardy has sued the Blue Angels.
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And I'm like.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
The Navy's acrobatic yet.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah and so, and this is just some language out
of the federal complaint, which is fourteen pages long. And
the basis of the lawsuit is that the Blue Angels,
with their loud booms and and JEDA engine noise and whatnot,
have terrorized her cat, who had some kind of heart disease.
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And then she got on Instagram and started criticizing the
Blue Angels and some not so choice words, and they
blocked her kind of foul language on there, so she
sued them for a First Amendment violation. But all throughout
the lawsuit there's these undertones of the Blue Angels have
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killed this fourteen year old cat with heart disease. Here's
an example Laylah's primitive limbic system that Laylah's name of
the cat overruled her medication and she fled in primal
panic beneath furniture, her labored breathing escalating to clinically dangerous levels.
Lombardi employed desperate measures to block or muffle the deafening roars,
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barricading windows with thick blankets, flooding the house with calming music,
physically shielding Layla's ears to no avail. And this is
written in a federal complaint.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Well, they have a picture of the cat.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
There's a picture of cat and a touch even got
a cat chit on the bottom of it. The captain
reads photo of Layla in her summertime prime and she
got a to two on and some kind of like
super cat necklace like a did going on but apparent
And I'm like, what lawyer would possibly file this lawsuit,
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so it's a real lawsuit. Preston was not exaggerating. It
is a real lawsuit. But I went a step further
and looked up the law firm that filed this complaint.
A couple of things. One, there's the lawyer, but look
who the paralegal is. It's the same woman's Lauren. And
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now what's even more interested about this is if you
look at the staff. You get to the next page
and it says legal interns.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Oh no, I see it coming.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
This is the staff a bunch of cats.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I'd show that to the camera.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
This is got a bunch of cats.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Ziggy and La Layla is on memorial memorial. He made
it fourteen years old.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
This is all of the website that there is here.
And what's really interesting is it says we are a
law firm, and then they give the number and it
says do not call us. Representation is not available. And
you look at the bottom of the big case. I guess,
so look at the bottom of the page, and this
is really classic. Several additional staff members declined to be
(31:38):
listed here due to reasons of professional, professional discretion and
personal safety.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Do you reckon? They didn't want it. I didn't want
I didn't want to be affiliated with non.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Here's a question for you, Fred. There we see nationally,
we see these these so frivolous, crazy, all outlandish here's
one of them. Off these crazy cases brought to trial,
brought to court where with no basis whatsoever in reality,
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can they not go after the attorneys?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
There are laws in place in Florida. There's a statue
it's called fifty seven one five says if you bring
an action in court that's not supported by the facts
or law, then the lawyer bringing and the client the
party lane. Yeah, the party bringing the lawsuit can be
sanctioned and I pay the other side's fees. I've been
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practicing thirty two years. I have filed that probably twenty times.
I've got it enforced three.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
It's crazy that you got the Blue Angels or just
not anybody else. You could have this completely innocent person
that's just going about their life and look sideways at
a crazy neighbor or whatever. I mean. I'm just throwing
that out there. You look sideways at somebody one time,
or your mere presence or the way you're dressed, or
you're awareing of make America hat or something that sets
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some nut job off and they find out who you
are and sue you over it.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, And one folks don't understand is you get sued
cost you money. It costs you a lot of money
and most of the time, and you get sued civilly.
If you go see and you don't have insurance that's
going to cover that, you go see a lawyer, that
lawyer's gonna say, all right, you know, give me ten
thousand dollars. We'll bill against it at three hundred and
fifty dollars an hour. And every time you pick up
the phone call that lawyer.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Three and fifty bucks.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
You know, it's it's however long you talk to him.
But they, you know, like I do mine in a
quarter hours. So you know, if you call it to
me for five that's fifteen minutes at you got a
quarter hour minimum, kind of like when you know, call
the plumber or he does the same thing.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
But I mean every time that lawyer picks up the
phone and talks to you, and that adds up and
in a hurry. And you know, that's one thing I
wish judges all over the country would would do more,
is enforce those laws against frivolous lawsuits and stop people
from just getting sue happy.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I mean, well, there are so many cases that come
in my office, and you know, I want to sue
this guy, and I'm like, well, okay, what are your grounds?
And I'll go through it with him and say, look,
I don't think you have a case here, and you know,
maybe you do, but I don't. I'm not willing to
put my name on that case.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah. You know if our insurance codes our lawsuits here,
if it does, you and I need to sue each
other and settle. Yeah, I'm just saying, and then we
just walk away.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I'll take that case.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I will, I will, I will agree. I will agree
to settle with you for ten million dollars for all
the agreements as if you will take ten million dollars
from me, and we can get our insurance company to
settle on that me and you will just walk away.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
So I don't any worse like that, Charlie. But you
know he was worth a try. We can sue the
insurance company for not for it.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Not well, well, you know what if you can sue
the Blue Angels for making your stress for flight out
and I think.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
So I sent this website to live years.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Listen, I understand fireworks and the noises, and I understand things.
I get it. I get it, I do. I mean,
if somebody around you is doing something, your neighbor's doing something,
it's just making you miserable, and you've tried every means
possible to resolve that issue and you just cannot figure
out a way to work. I see where something like
this might happen. But when you're suing the military for
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doing military stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Well, I sent this website to Preston, so you know,
you got the lawyer and you got the only other
human pictured on his websites his client.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Now, he doesn't look like he wants to be there.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
He really doesn't. He looks like somebody's looking. She's not looking,
So you never know.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I mean, well, comment, she's a crazy cat lady.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Crazy cat lady. He might be, you know, I mean,
he ain't all that, so she's you never know.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Well my comment I sent Preston, I said, I looked
up the lawyers on your lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Look at what her background is. She is a former
funeral director.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
That's that's troubling.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Discovery whisperer and devouted mother devoted.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Uh, the devote devoted.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I don't think anything.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Uh, she's devout with what is a discovery whisperer? I
gotta look, I gotta google that. You'll go ahead.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
She's talking about legal discovery. That is, she's whispering in.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Some of the owner of the thing is a litigator,
A litigators litigator licensed in Washington, speaks English, Tech, French,
and criminal code.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah, great guy. Uh So I looked at and he's
the only two humans pictured in this law firm. The
rest of them are cats. And uh So, I sent
the website to president and the question to him is
what are the chances that these two recently attended a
Coldplay concert.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Together together?
Speaker 3 (36:52):
He said about a person, it's a driving acre.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I'm s hug and we're back.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I know what AALL's a bass whisperer. Yeah, maybe a
brim whisper. Shall I tell you?
Speaker 5 (37:11):
In the last uh last few weeks, the man, the
brim and shell cracker have been really bedding pretty good.
That had a trip this past Saturday. I'll I'll send
it Charlie's and put a picture on it. We caught
one hundred and by nine o'clock that morning started daylight.
By nine o'clock we were done. But the bass bite
has been pretty good too. The brim and shell cracker.
I've seen in the last two weeks more brim beds
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than I have since the beginning of May.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Wow, in two week period.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
They just can't hardly stand to be out there.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
You got to go early and late, early and late
right now in late's questionable, that's late que.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
I mean this past week it's been extreme heat at
thegain of to day and it's been like ninety degrees
at eight o'clock in the evening.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
You know, Oh, I know. I got out there and
moved to grass other night right for dark, and I
was soaking wet when I come in the house.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
All right, we got a fire handrate out in the
front of our house. Look that he was chasing a
dog down the street.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You should know your grass using night vision.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I'm not rich like you. I don't have night vision.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I got to get me some of these night vision.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Got thermal mounted. I got a thermal mounted on my rifle.
But I don't think the neighbors would appreciate me out
there riding the morroor with an AR fifteen six five
grendle propped up on the handle bars like the military
night vision.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yes, PBS fourteen, Yes exactly, Yes, I got it mounted
on the helmet with rails and the whole nine yards.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, I could use for sale.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Fred, there's there's a there's a there's a sett in
the case.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
White phosphorus said.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, that white phosphorus night vision is cool. It's not green,
it's white, so it's more.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Like a black and white. It's like you're looking through
at a black and white wife.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Men want me to wear a helmet around the house.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
You need to wear helmet around the house, around the
house with a ball back. Yeah, ahead, and get your attention.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You don't need a you don't need to cavil our helmet.
You just need what they call it a bump on film,
just something like it's like when you were when you
were on the short bus, just a.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Kid I used to wear to school.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
All are terrible. Y all are horrible.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah, you grew up in Chattahooche. You can't tell me
a lot.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I'm man, y'all gonna get I.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Ain't talking about you. I'm talking about you've seen stuff
I s. I said, you grew up around to Florida
State Hospital. Have I ever seen things? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yes, him. My dad worked up there, and UH would
would after school. Sometimes I'd have to go to his
office and he would take me around and show me.
He'd point at somebody and he'd say, see that guy
right there, Yeah, the one uh licking his you know,
one licking his toes. And I'm like, yeah, that one,
and and he goes, yeah, that guy was a PhD
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student until one day he got a hold of some
bad drugs and it friday his brain. I never wanted
to mess with no drugs. Y'all can have all all
that stuff you want. We want to get to college
like you want to try to No, I don't want
to look at that.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I don't know it's true or not, but it kept
JD off a drug.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
What you know, Apparently at Florida State Hospital they can
earn phone privileges.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Oh yeah, I used to have to listen to their
phone calls. I was right out of high school, like
the month after I graduated from high school, before I
started going to college. At what was then TCC, I
got a job as the nighttime midnight shift dispatcher at
Chattahoochee Police Department midnight to eight o'clock in the morning,
and we would get the phone call. Rarely get phone calls.
(40:40):
I mean, I did a lot of homework when I
was going to college that way, because I'd go to
work at night, do my homework. I'd get off work
at eight o'clock in the morning, go to school till two,
come home, go to sleep, go to work at midnight,
work till eight in the morning, drive to school. And
that's how I went to college. But I do my
homework when I was awake at at work at night,
you know. Yeah, and we got I got a call
one morning then from phone number. It was a regular
(41:02):
chat to hitch your phone number, you know, popped up
on the phone and yeah, chatty, I canna help you.
And uh, they're they're holding me hostage. I'm locked up
in a room and I need some help. And I'm
just I'm an eighteen year old kid, just graduated high school, right,
and I'm going, holy crap, it's a real call. It's
not somebody's dogs out or you know what. And I'm listening, Yeah, okay,
(41:23):
what's your name? And tell me, Well, they've locked me up. Yeah,
I'm the inventor of Oreo cookies, and and they're trying
to get my formula for the for the creamy filling
and the Oreo cookies, and and just go on with
this elaborate, elaborate set of that's what they do. It's
three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Let me tell you what they do in the day time.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Call Fred's office.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, they call, they call, start calling offices, and amongst
the lawyers in Tallahassee, it's kind of a common joke.
So if you got a lawyer, it's aggravating.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
The six six three number come in.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah, and you get that call and he's I man,
I'm sorry, I don't handle that kind of case. Call
this guy over here and don't don't buy. As a
matter of fact, you don't even call it. He takes
walk ins. Just go in there and yeah, they just it.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
They can't get there.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
But sometimes you get the nuts that they get out.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, it took me. It took me a few times
at catching them calls that you go, okay, wait, And
so then the way you catch them is that what
unit are you on? Oh, I'm on unit I'm in
Unit thirty one. Because they would answer that question because
that they have their assigned to a certain unit, which
is a certain type of whatever at the hospital. So
you would ask them what unit, what floor are you on?
They know that and they tell you right off the bat,
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I'm meant unit thirty one, floor number four. And you go, okay,
I'll have somebody come help you. And then you just
call the nurses station up there and go, hey, take
the phone away from old Bob down there. He's he's
going on and on about the cream filling and the Oreo.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Co Leon County from Apple at Mental Health and the call,
and you know, if they could get to a phone,
and next thing you know, you know, I'm getting cases
assigned to me and investigations. And I realized that, yeah,
that's not Yeah, I'm unfound this one.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I guess that's a way of saying. Fishing has been crazy.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
It has actually been pretty good. The bass bite has
been has turned on pretty good too. The uh they're
starting to school, they've been schooling now for about a
week or two really, And uh, that's top order, top order.
That's fine. I want to I forgot to bring my baits.
I want to show some baits that's working. I'll bring
them next week. But we had that, but we didn't
get it recorded.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Okay, that's my fault.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
I'll take. I'll take. We'll get to do it over.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
My favorite on Talcon was always a tiny torpedo. Yes,
and then when you when you catch it, you get
the little ones on top, and then you run a
deep running crank bait through the through that uh, through
that pod that school and run a deep running crank
bait underneath there. And then we'll beggings and be laid
down and they're waiting on the little ones to noth
ad out start sinking to the bottom. So you pull
the crank bait there.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
You know, they make it with this forward facing saltar
that they have. Now it's uh, it's kind of neat,
you know, you'll be You'll see some fish school the
other day and I point over there.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I'm looking.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
I see this all ones. They're up high, just like
you said, the big one's underneath. And so I'm trying
to pick out which one I wanted to catch, and
and that that that's fun, that makes it interesting.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I still got to go with you because I don't
have one of them things. And I gotta I gotta
go see that that I've I've never witnessed. I've never
seen actually fished with somebody with a forward fishing sonar.
I'd love to see that.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
It's fun, it's it's it's it's a you know, you've
heard of sight fishing, your slight fishing for bass on
a bed. It's the same thing, but now you're doing
it when they're.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
In the water.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
You're doing it through a videos. Are they ever going
to outlaw that, you think with bass tournament? No, with
bass tonaments, I don't think they can't outlaw it. For No,
I don't don't.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
I think there's some trails that use it and some
that don't, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
And uh, it seems like it'd be a huge advantage
to somebody that had it versus somebody that didn't, or
somebody knew how to use it better. They may not
be a better fisherman, but they know how to use
that equipment, that one piece of equipment better than somebody.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
That's right, and that that does come into effect for sure.
In the college ranks, you've been seeing some of that,
but it's very situational. You've got to but know when
to use it and then just because you have it
does not make.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
That fish bite. Yeah, yeah, true.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Anybody that says that they have.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
But see an outlaw like me. It be figuring out
how I could tie a trouble hook on the on
the front end of something and dragged across the leader
of the travel hook on erk. Not that I would
do something like that.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
They've all been hooked.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Besides, I've heard stories about things like that, not that
I would do it.
Speaker 5 (45:25):
But I've had numerous trips out there, especially crappie fishing,
and man, it's fun. I've had everybody I've taken, even
I think Charlie. You went with CJ and.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
He he got good at that that young he caught
a crop. That thing was huge. Did you keep it?
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Charlie keptain, We kept crappy. Yeah, they're not bass. Paul
that keep bass? I like to Yeah, well, Paul, if
Paul kept all bass that he caught, he wouldn't have
any business. So yeah, we've been catching the fire at
the bass.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Then left back to being a conservationistrake protecting to protecting
your herd if.
Speaker 5 (46:02):
You will exactly, you know, I catch all the bass.
I catch my release now of course, God made them.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
You can eat them. That's I don't have any kind
of issue without.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
But you do it for a conservation purposes.
Speaker 5 (46:13):
It's all about the hunt, trying to figure out how
to catch them, finding them, you.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (46:17):
For me, then I like my custom bill to catch them.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Have a great way right now. And then you might
get invited to a farm pond and somebody says, I
need to take a whole bunch of these little bass
out of here because I got too many of them
in my pond. And when I get those invites, I
go and I will fill up a freezer.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
Very it's good, it's very good.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Deed, it's as close to grouper as you can get
fresh water.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
And that's just but the best freshwater fish that swims. Now, guys,
you got Charlie is the true story?
Speaker 3 (46:43):
A pickerel?
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Oh yeah, jack ful jack chain pickerel? You got them in.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Your I'm sure I've caught them before.
Speaker 5 (46:50):
Gives the best tasting.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Really, don't try to don't try to cook it and
eat it without me being there to show you how.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah, you got it too.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Cook You gotta know how to clean it. You gotta
know how to pressure fish.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
We'll talk about that next week.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
We have time, because that's it. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Jd oh, you ain't telling me nothing. I have to
eat more jackfish than you could shake his sticks. They're fantastic,
the meat sweet.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
I've never tasted it. I thought they were like an invasive.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
No, sir, no, they are. They are native.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
Blue cats are evasive, flatheads are evasive. Opens You can
throw a bow fen up on the bank and the
mud puddle, and the mud puddle dry up. He'll and
then when it rains he'll come back to like fish,
back to the water.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, that's why I've seen him.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Nasty looking fish and will tear up.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Your litter seeds and ri I want to do a
trip down to South Florida to those canals and snake
fish snakeheads looks like fun.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
All right, guy, Look, we'll see all this week.