August 23, 2025 • 47 mins
On this episode of the Talon Outdoors Show, Charlie Strickland, J.D. Johnson, Fred Conrad, Paul Tyre, and producer Grant Allen welcome special guests Casey Smith and Blake Burns from the Florida State Dog Hunters Association.
The conversation digs deep into the roots of dog hunting in Florida—how it’s more than just a pastime, but a tradition tied to family, community, and the land itself. Casey and Blake share their passion for preserving this way of life, while also tackling the challenges of working with landowners, dealing with changing regulations, and passing the hunting spirit on to the next generation.
Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
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The conversation digs deep into the roots of dog hunting in Florida—how it’s more than just a pastime, but a tradition tied to family, community, and the land itself. Casey and Blake share their passion for preserving this way of life, while also tackling the challenges of working with landowners, dealing with changing regulations, and passing the hunting spirit on to the next generation.
Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
Check out our archive of podcasts here: https://ihr.fm/36mzYjf.
Follow the Talon Training Group and Range on Facebook @TalonRange.
Listen live to the Talon Outdoors Show from 10-11 a.m. ET on 100.7 WFLA!
WFLA Tallahassee Live stream: https://ihr.fm/3huZWYe
Follow WFLA Tallahassee on Twitter @WFLAFM and like us on Facebook at @wflafm.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And welcome to the town outdoor show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Charlie Buenos Dias.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
You know, but nobody knows what it means.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
A lot of people do.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Hello, folks, he's Fred and I'm granted.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
What did you mean it means? Good morning, guys, I'm
I'm Fred. You said, That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I know what, I know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, yeah, that was, Yeah, that was. There were some agos,
there were some amigoss migos with tequila and margarita.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So anyway, if anybody wonders, Fred was gone, I know,
and I went to Mexico.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We went to Mexico and uh and they.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Let him back in and they apparently didn't get the
memo we sent.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I guess, well I did get.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Did you get padded down?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Really good?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Get get a little a little bit of hassle coming
back in the States. I wanted to know if I
had anything to declare, And I said, I declare, I'm back.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
But they roll out the red carpet for you.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
They didn't give me any red cars.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Don't you know who I am?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Ah, Yeah, I didn't get any of that. I had
no problem getting into the country.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
You're a viral podcast star.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
You should have told.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, they would have heard.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Virals would.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
From need to be.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
But you're smuggling under their mask. My turkey neck.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Did get it. Did get a few cigars across the border.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So don't make any admissions.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I didn't say they were legal.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Well, yeah, you bring back cigars just longs and not
made and Cuba bring.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I would never do that unless you knew you can
get away with it.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, if you knew you could get away with it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
If I knew, We'll see what you do.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Is you buy ar trou one this made in a
country that because they make them in countries that are
legal to bring in, and you know all that, and
then Dominican you get a good Dominican cigar, and you
take the you smoke it, and you take the take
the ring, all that, take the wrapper off and put
the in theory, in theory you put the wrapper on
(02:08):
the Cuban.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Then you just you wouldn't wouldn't think of anything like that, Yeah, wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
We wouldn't put the Cuban wrapper in your luggage and
nobody sees that piece of paper.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You might not consider really doing it, but you think
about it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I mean, nor would I buy anything at their pharmacy
and put it in a different container.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Oh lord, yeah, you're gonna be on.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
A I'd be careful with them. Twenty cent apiece viagras
they got down there, I'd be real careful with that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Uh yeah, it's been a stiff vacation.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
There we go get one of them hung up in
your throat and with a stiff neck.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh my lord, now, yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It was quite an experience.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So what what's the wall? What's on the table there?
You brought it in a bunch of peppers, which we're
not going to be rying here in the studio. Well,
I promise you that.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Uh you know, last night is bumping around in the
garden because I left all the tequila in Mexico.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I got a hundred dollars bill in my pocket. I
want to watch you eat one of those Carolina reapers.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
This is a Carolina Reaper, which is the hottest pepper.
Noon to man.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Hold it up in front of the camera.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Shu, there a hundred dollar bill right now. If you're
gonna eat, if you eat one on like milk, no milk,
no milk, you got to eat it. Not make a face.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, no, it's I can do it under the right.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Sure, yeah, but how.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Much you don't have to hold it up forever. I
just set it back down like a minute a half later,
you still got that pepper bag holding up in the
air like Scranston turned the camera off and everything.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Man, it's scared to put it down because it's liable
to go off. Like, why did say that out loud?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Then I got a sort allegedly that that I picked
all these in the guard. I got a hollowpenion here,
got some Hobbonaro's, got some uh that's a dade old pepper,
which is a pretty.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I've got a I got one of Bobby Williams that
hunts with us. Brought some dadel pepper nattle pepper pepper
sauce up here. That stuff good.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So I brought them all for y'all so.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
You can see them in there. They're hot enough. Yeah, yeah,
I don't even it hurts you.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So interesting trip to Mexico this year the ostentiically go
down there to play golf, which I did not well,
because you don't play golf with margarite as well.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, it probably makes it more fun.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It does. It made it a lot of fun, and uh,
we got an early tea time this year.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
So it's also not good when you're in drinking margarita now, well.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Unless you start drinking them early, which I might have done.
And uh so we were like the first or second
people on the course this year. Well the place we
were called it's it's called a Maya Kobo, which is
it's like a wildlife preserve where you can put some
hotels in there, and I think there's four of them
(05:11):
there and it's it's kind of in the jungle, so
you get that kind of experience. And we had all
kinds of wildlife that we're still on the course and
they have this one animal down there called a quati.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah that is like that's the coon looking look like
a raccoon tail ringtail thing on.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, it's kind of a cross between a rat, a
possum and a raccoon. Yah and uh and say he's
out there. There was like a hundred of these dog
on things on the on the second fairway and I
thought there were geese from the distance. I hit the
ball in between them and they all kind of gathered
around it, and I'm like, what the hell's going on there?
(05:48):
And I get up to the to the to my
ball in the cart. Two of them hop on the
cart with me, and I'm like, I don't know what
y'all are thinking. Wife's freaking out.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I finally got him off the cart and we got
out of there, and I think a double battle. Got
up to the next hole and there's these lizards that
looked like they're about a foot maybe foot and a
half two feet long, and they got this kind of
triangle head with a plate. I don't know what he was,
(06:22):
but there were two of them right up there on
the tea box and I'm like, I don't know if
I can walk up to him or not, so but
I did. And I didn't know what they were going
to come.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I only had something like a stick or something.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
There was two, and if they were going to come
at me, I was only going to be able to
take out one. And so I got the wife out
with her golf club and she didn't want to come
up to the to the tea box. And they didn't
come at me, but they got up on their hind
legs and ran the full length of the fairway, arms
flopping out like that. Yeah, I mean it was just
(07:02):
a and I'm like, we're in Jurassic Park. Uh So
then you know, get back to the to the hotel
after the to the after the golf game, and I with.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Three cartel members waiting on you wait and see what
the story goes.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So there was a little little plunge pool at our villa.
It was right on a canal that had crocodiles in it,
and that was neat to see those pool No, the
canal did. And uh so as I go to getting
the plunge pool, there's a snake in the dog. I
didn't know whether what he was, so.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Well, that's something that we're kind of used to here.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, so, I mean, and he was having a problem
getting out of the plunge pool. So I was like, well,
better catch him and get him out of there. But
I don't know if he's veno us or not.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So you know, if you only had a stick, So
I used.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
The old the old Jim Stevenson snake camp technique that
he taught was when we were catching watermarks since at
six years old. And uh so grabbed him by the tail,
held him up so he couldn't come up and get me,
and then finally got his head down and put my
head hand. I said, caught him by the ead and
I still couldn't identify him. So I decided that the
(08:13):
closest place to our villa was the Spy. And they
had all these these you know, masseuse women in there,
ready to give you a massage if you want to.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, they rested that. Yeah, some reason I didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I didn't. I didn't think that this was that kind
of spot.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
But anyway, so there.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I walked into the spy with a snake and
I'm like, hey, y'all know what this is. One of
them about had a heart attack, I heard spent women's
Spanish cuss words, and they ran me out of.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
The crazy Yeah, ran me out of their local gringo.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Catch one of the guys walking down the air and
I'm like, he's where are you from? And I was
it Florida and oh Florida.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Shout up down there.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh yeah, well, and so I finally let him go.
Came back and the suits people, I said, what did
you do a snake? I said, I put him in
the side room too.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Somebody's not gonna have that ended.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
They'll be showing a snake.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Hey, we run out of time for the first segment.
When we come back, we're gonna have a couple of
special guests, and we'll probably run in the next segment,
maybe for the Wiregrass segment too, because it's key over there,
and then we'll roll back in. We'll listen to some
more of these stories and I want to break We'll
find out how many of them are true.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
I'm sure all of them know I.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Pad there one percent. We'll see in just a minute.
(10:09):
So we have some special guests on the.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Show, Yes we do. We got Casey Smith who's a
good friend of ours. And yeah, local local hero. I say,
he's alignment. He keeps the power, he keeps the power
going when the storms have a knife building maker hunter extraordinary.
I get to see Florida man, all that Florida man training,
(10:32):
training some daughters to just be regular old I got
Florida women down there.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I mean, he's he got it going on. You go
to Liberty County, you might run into him and that
could be good or not, depending on where you're at.
Don't be out there trespassing on his place.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Local Law forcem's been working over time with you. I've
been proud of.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Them, and uh and Blake Burns and and they're with
the Florida Dog Hunters Association.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Florida State Dog Hunters Association.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah, and we we're gonna let you let you guys
one take a victory lap. I think we can. I
think we can say we had a h had a
win a couple of weeks ago at the commission meeting
and uh a big, big, big turnout. Uh. The Commission
voted in favor of hunters and in uh in favor
(11:19):
of proper game management and uh so uh with with
a lot of bust in anti people from who knows.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Where, Tampa, Orlando we know for sure, Yeah, actually advertising
it on Facebook. They would come, pick them up, put
them up, feed them, Yeah, probably pay them, but we
don't you know.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, probably never proved that either way. But the fact
of the matter is there was a bunch of bunch
of tour buses.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Free bust loads.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah yeah, uh and they have been attending these meetings
all over the state. And we talked about it on
the show, or I talked a lot about it. I
got I get kind of I get kind of wound
up about these things sometimes because I don't want to
see my way to life go away.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
We're passionate about it really passionate.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah, absolutely, so tell us what you guys are all about.
I mean the dog hunting kind of speaks for itself,
but you guys run run dogs for I'm assuming deer
and hogs, and we.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Do well bears maybe everything. Well, when I was a kid,
you know, me and my dad did a bear hunt.
We started out dog hunting for deer, and then we
moved over into bear and hogs and you know, and
then they shut it down. There wasn't enough bear and
I agree back then there wasn't. I remember the last
couple of years we hunted. You literally tracked all night
(12:31):
just to find a track to have to run the
next day, and so it probably needed to happen. But
it's not like that anymore. The bears have rebounded tremendously.
I mean, when you're at the top of the food chain,
you know, and nothing's hunted you in that many years.
And then they did have the one little hunt in
twenty fifteen, and I think they wanted three hundred bears
and it was over three hundred took out in two days.
(12:54):
So the bears have made it back. But yeah, we
do it all, especially in Liberty County. You know, there's
so much to do. My hog hunt, you know, we
hunt with the dogs for the birds, we quail hunt.
Me and Charlie have done that pretty good bit. We
enjoyed that a lot. And I love to run the
deer dogs. And I'll be honest with you, I have
just as much fun in the training season running the
(13:14):
dogs and listening to them. There, even a little more
than I do during deer season, because deer season, you know,
we actually try to cut the deer off. But during
the training season, I just let them run and we'll
sit there and listen to them, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And now you can watch them. Now you can watch
them on the GPS. Yeah, so that's a you know,
when I grew up running deer dogs dog hunting over
in Gaston County, over in ton Chattahohche and loved it. Man.
We were hunting little small blocks and we had beagles,
and you ain't never heard nineteen If you've never heard
nineteen head of beagles running through the woods, barking, all
(13:49):
at the same time, and all have different voices, and
you're listening to that, and if it don't make the
hair stand up on the back of your neck, it's
just something to behold.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
It's a feeling you can't hardly describe. You literally have
to experience.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, But so anyway, people don't realize. And I started
to look it up and I probably will google it
at some point in time. Here there's tens of hundreds
of thousands of acres. How big is Appleatch Color National Forest?
Do you have any idea? It's one hundreds.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Just the biggest in the state and the biggest in
several states.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
I believe it's seven hundred and sixty thousand acres.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, so you're looking at round numbers between seven and
eight hundred thousand acres. And there's places in that forest
that man has never stepped on. I'm convinced of that.
You know, so the we don't have anyway, You don't
have anyway, the biologists don't have any way. And knowing
exactly what's out there, you know, it might be a
skun cap running around, who knows, you know, there's little
(14:42):
sasquatch out there at night. Yeah, I mean, if you've
never been out there at night, you hear things that
you just like, I don't know what that was, but
it didn't sound friendly. And you know, so they a
lot of the antis use, in my opinion, probably not
so accurate numbers, because a lot of the antis are
obviously anti hunting everything. And if they if we give
(15:07):
any ground on that, you know, to we've got a
band dog hunt. We can't well that they may be
talking about what you guys do cha chasing deer and
hogs with dogs, but it also would affect if they
wrote the law, it would affect people with quail dogs. Yeah,
you know, with birds that they raised and put out
there to harvest.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
That's what these other guys don't realize. You know, they're
talking about our deer dogs today or bear dogs maybe
in twenty twenty seven, but they're really after all hunting.
If you know, they'll be after your retrievers for ducks whatever.
If we don't all get together on this thing and
make a united front, it'll slowly go away. It's like
the foxpins. When they closed the fox pins in Florida.
(15:45):
I didn't run fox dogs. I didn't think much about it.
I should have been out there with those guys, because
now it's gone, it'll never you know, well, I'm won't
say I never come back, just something we're gonna fight
to get back. But you know, it's just like the
bear hunt. Look how long it took us to get
back to this, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, and it's almost it's taking bears breaking into people's houses. Literally,
it literally has taken that to get it even on
the menu again or even on the up for discussion again.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
At the meeting, And I tell you something else that
anty hunters they're their own worst enemy. Because at this
meeting we just went out The misinformation they spew makes
them look terribly, you not credible. One lady got up
and there said literally you could scare a bear to death,
and then that she was worried about that. And then
one of them said, there never been a fatality in Florida.
And literally there was just.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
A fatality a month ago Florida.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Right, we just had another one where one guy found
them one in his house. So them not having good information,
you know, if they would get up there and had
some decent factional information, But when they just get up
there and holler and s about feelings, I think they're
their own worst enemy. And then when the hunters get
there and do have good factional information, and that's what
we try to promote, I think it makes us look
(16:54):
better and especially in the commissioner's eyes. They see that,
and you know that they're even issuing death threats and
stuff to the commissioners. Who would ever thought that you
would see that. But on one side is that vehemently
angry about it. They lose credibility.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
In my opinion, Well, most of those people are ruled
by emotion, and they're the same people that when you
look on H. Rutherford Cattle out in Texas selling cows.
This is a god fearing Christian selling cows by the truckloader.
I love watching his videos and people, you know, I
got these cows used to turn out cows blah blah blah,
and people, you should let them go, he responded. I
(17:31):
tell you what, you buy them, I'll truck them to
your place and you can let them go. I love
that gas.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Maybe they'll wander over to my house.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, man, tell you what, you bring them on down
and let them go at my place. I'll keep them.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Feel bring them in. I'll bring them in the house
and keep them.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
But it's like, don't eat this, don't do that, don't
do that thing. You know what, and you know you're
on you're we're on indigenous land. We should be apologizing
land acknowledgment and blah blah blah. You know what do
you what did they eat? They were out hunt and
that's that's part of God's bounty. That's what I mean.
And the thing is is just because you eat out
of a grocery store, I just don't. I don't get it.
(18:08):
And the thing is is we, the people sitting in
this room are some of the biggest conservationists there are.
We put more money into conserving our natural resources and
wildlife than all those people do, because all they do
is sit around and fuss and moan.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
About it about it, but they don't do a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And our licenses and our permits and all the stuff.
Just for me to raise quail in my pen and
hats quail in my in my own building out there,
I have to have two different licenses, one for to
raise the quail and one because I have hunting preserved
now at the house, just so I can turn birds
loose out there. And I have to pay for those
permits and they have to come inspect my place. And
(18:45):
you can't tell me that you know, we're not law abiding.
I mean, we're doing everything we can. And that's all
managed and when people go after the one thing and
working dogs, to me is one of the purest forms
of pleasure and enjoy that. Just watching a bird dog,
or watching any kind of dog that's doing what they
are designed to do, you know, in their element, be
(19:08):
it a retriever or a pointer, or a flush dog
or a beagle or whatever. Man, that is just nothing,
nothing more enjoyable than this world.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
There's nothing compares to it. It's you're truly more one
on one level, you know, with your hunting. And another
thing people don't realize is and to me, hunting with
a dog is the truest form of the sport. From
the moment you start hunting, whatever you're pursuing, those you're
after it, it can use everything and it's arsenal to
get away from you, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And I'm not.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Throwing shade on the way anybody else is hunting, but
you're not up there sniping a deer while he's eating breakfast,
you know, or while he's chasing a girlfriend. The dog hunting,
he knows the minute you start to hunt, he's after you.
So and it's the only form of catcher and lease.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, because you can pick or choose what you.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
With the Bear's a prime example. You run the bear
of a Tria up, you know, he backs up in
basil up. You can look at and say, hey, that's not
a bear we want to harvest. And when we were
bear hunting in Georgia a few years ago, there was bears.
We caught the dogs and walked away from not what
we were looking to for, uh dear, the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
People find it's hard to believe, but I hunt on
desret timber. We have buck management rules. We can only
shoot certain sized bucks. We look at the deer of
us not doesn't meet what we think those screw criteria,
or if it's a dove or yours.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
We catch the dogs.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah, and with the track and train callers that are
mandated now by law, it's so much easier to do. Yeah,
people find that hard to believe, but literally I can.
I can catch five or six head of dogs up
with a holler of my voice, a whistler and honking
my horn. We've never had that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Far far cry from when I was growing up and
they were dog hunting running across our place, and you know,
dogs don't recognize property lines, and you didn't have any
way back then of saying, Okay, that's going too far,
that's so and so it is property down there. He
don't want them down You couldn't do anything about it.
Now you can control those dogs, and it's technology has
come a long way and from voting that lifestyle to
(21:01):
where you can do it and not be intolerable to
your neighbors sometimes because there's different people that are pretty
dog gone.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yeah, you know, it really was dog hunting back then.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
You hunt half the night, hu hunt dog for the
next day.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah. Uh, to my hey, we used to have dog
pens out there where you'd go when you drop dogs
off when you catch them, and people and the go
get their dogs from there. You know, that's part of
the tradition. The well, we're gonna okay whatever that means.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Thirty seconds charging, that's what it means.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Grant holding up hands.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
He was just telling them a hundred shows we.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Went over this.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, I forgot which hand signal he gave, so I
wasn't sure which one it was. Uh, yeah, well we'll
be back. We'll be back in just a minute. We
got another we got another five minutes of you guys
here in just a few seconds, and we are back
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a Keevan and fine show fashion. We have the oats
off the air, so y'all can't hear them and cancel
us anyway. So tell us more about your association.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
That's your cube, Blake.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Yeah, I'm coming in. I'm coming in pretty much our
our goal. We've ractually adopted this probably within the past
five years, uh, to kind of get out of the
woods and in the community, kind of spread the wealth
in a way.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
And that's the Florida State Dog Hunters Association, right.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
That is correct, that's what's on your hat, yes, sir.
So we we organize local trash clean ups in the
apolots call the National Forest of course, with other organizations,
so they look a little different than us.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Good people though.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
They enjoy our food. So we provide the dumpsters and
and the food and everybody goes out and they pick
up what they can and bring it back in up
where you hunt. Yeah, clean up where you hunt, kind
of work your way back to the food site.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I guess you'll have a social media's Facebook platform, website,
anything like that that we find you, yes, sir, which one.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
It's the Florida State dogun Association on face on Facebook.
As far as we've went so far, all right, just
behind the body.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
To help us with that, you got to remember where.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Much of ye know what I know, exactly what you are.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
We're a little behind the times, so no doubt. So,
I mean it's a good thing in a way. I mean,
you take your kids out there, you try to teach
them the right way to keep them, make them think
about when they got to get out of the truck
and pick that trash up rather than just throwing something
out of the window, you know. So I feel like
that's a huge thing. And you make it fun too,
you know, you turn it into throwing rocks in the
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water hole or you know.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
And it gets back what you said to Hunters and
fishermen have always been the best stewards of the land
in the water, and that's what we're trying to prove
when we do these things. We care about the woods
we hunt sure as much as more than anybody.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Yeah, I mean I've been in the woods mini times
and pull the trash bag while I'm actively on.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
So I got a question for you. If you're running
dogs and you've going to there, but you go out
there and clean up the woods, and then you can't
tell somebody to go down to the tractor tire or
the or the or the truck body and the landmarks,
you know, because of running dogs growing up is like
go down to the crooked tree and set up right
there and they're coming right at you.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Those places are just like good dogs.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
They live on whether the whether the truck bodies there
or not.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
I have one where mister Hunt killed the eight point
where we're not really sure that is at this point.
We just know mister Hunt Kill won there thirty years.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Ago and we kind of got with the times with
the GPS.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So you know everybody, so, well, what kind of radios
y'all round with you?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
We have some where we do like you know, the
private channels, and then we still do the old school
sea Bees of ken Woods. Yeah, zoos Yazoos coms a
real popular one, and then middling in the old school seabes.
Every group's got their own preference, but it just depends.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Got one hundred and eight inch whip on the back.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Of your truck with a linear brand with the split channels, yeah,
man and all go over to McDonald's drive through speaker.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Another thing we do is we've started doing a hunting
expo every year, and we actually got one of those
coming up September thirteenth. Yes, it's gonna be at three
y in Crosslebill. It's a pretty big event. The first
year we did it, we had four hundred and fifty people.
Second year we had about eight hundred and fifty people,
and we're thinking this year we're going to have that
many or more awesome. So it's going to be a
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big event. And the people always wonder what does the
Dog Hunter Association do the money we raised from these
events like this. We used to do stuff all throughout
the year in our community. We do scholarships, We did
several of those for the youth. We do lifetime hunting
license for several We've had some people in our community
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of falling on hard times. We did a bit of
fit for our girl that was going through cancer and
we raffled off and sold tickets for stuff and raised
a pretty good minute money for her. So we're trying
to give back in our community to let people know
that this is what we are. As a matter of fact,
in a Liberty County where they donated a lot of
money to the Liberty Angel Tree for senior citizens and
kids who didn't have Christmas. So that's what your association
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is doing, and that's what we do with these things
like the event we have coming up at the three
wide Crossorville.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That's awesome. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, they I ain't gonna make it. I'm gonna be
fishing in a bass tournament that day unfortunately, but uh yeah,
that'd be something to come out and see what you
guys do. And it's it's a really fun way to hunt.
There's no question about it. It Uh, you know, it
brings back just talking about it brings back a ton
of memories for me. Uh, you know, just the camaraderie.
It's it's and that's what a lot of people understand.
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Oh where you're you're hunting for sport, you know, it's
really not. It's it's kind of like a dove kind
of like the first day of dove shooting dove field.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
It's it's all about the group and the camaraderie and
the friendships that the lifelong meant friendships that you make
doing that stuff. We thank you guys for being on
the show.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
We enjoyda thanks for having us am. We're back. So
as those guys left the Florida State Dog Hunters Association.
They've got the Facebook page under the Florida State Dog
Hunters Association. Should be easy to find if you're on Facebook.
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They have their third annual Expo Saturday, September thirteenth, that's
four pm and it's down in where's the address anyway,
you can find it on their webs on their Facebook page.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Count triple triple y double y.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Wrench Well, I can't read it. The three y rang
the three Harvey Young Farm. So anyway, apparently it's gonna
be a bunch of VIPs down there. They've got his
family friendly. Uh, they got raffle tickets. You get dog feeding,
fishing trips and all kinds of garment products and all
that in your raffle and your ticket includes your annual
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membership dues and the dinner by po and you can
get them online at one of those events, right things.
But go to go to Facebook, look up Florida State
Dog Hunts Association. Apparently it's gonna be a fun thing.
I'm gonna try to go.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
A good group of guys, and I know they'd love
to have you.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yep, yep, they you know, we we go to all
these events all the time. I'd be a good one
for us. Try to make it too as well.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Me and Paul's gonna be fishing in a bass tournament
in Appleachicola at the church. Yeah, Curfew Lodge. It's a
Mason Lodge, Curfew Lodge, and uh in Apple Cola and
uh where you're going are putting in the river. We're
putting in at the ten foot hole and going up
the river. Bass fishing. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
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I'm getting excited about it. But yeah, it's there. It's
a huge bass tournament. I don't know what. I don't
know how many boats they've got in here, but I
know they've got two flights. I think we're going on
the early flight and it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
A really good calls to How does how do you
score that? Is it the number of fish different?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
No, No, it's it's by pounds by weight five biggest fish.
So it's a boat tournament. It's not an individual tournament.
So I'm not fishing against Paul. I'm fishing with him.
We're a team. They're gonna be a team, and it's
we're gonna keep the five. Hopefully we catch five and
then then we hope to catch five big ones, and
then the five biggest fish we catch that day, we'll
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get weighed in and whoever has the most pounds most
pounds of fish wins.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, and I probably have a big fish spot too. Yeah,
is the biggest one.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
You get decent money out of it.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I don't know what the prize. They said it that
they told me that if they got one hundred boats
in the tournament, that, uh, the first prize is ten
thousand dollars. That's not bad, That's that's pretty good. If
you go out there and get we might get lucky
and catch five big ones and win. And then I'm
I'm gonna give Paul, you know, like five hundred dollars
and then I'm gonna keep the rest and.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Then spend it. You might need a will done.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Or yeah, I could.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I might need a you know, speeding ticket, I mean something.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I might not have a fishing license. You know, I
go fishing without a license.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You never know.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I can handle that. We're just fine.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
I hate to break it to you. I got a
five year sportsman's sportsman's goal, so I got a lifetime.
I did the calculations on the lifetime thing here a
few years ago, and I was like, no, the money
just didn't quite work out.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I could.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
I can buy a five year Sportsman. Usually they'll put
them on sale. Florida'll put them on sale ever so often.
And I did all the how long do I got for?
I don't have to buy one anymore?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I got mine when I was like twenty something.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
If I had done that, I don't even know. I
didn't know they had them when we were twenty something
years Yeah they did. And then smart smart to buy
your kids one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I did buy a Grayson one, you know, right after
he was born, because you could buy it for peanuts.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Yeah, and uh so he.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Still got that there, and you know, he'll never have
to have a hunt. The only thing it doesn't cover
is a federal duck stamp.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Yeah, so I was we Uh my wife made me
help her clean out the garage. She calls it getting
the garage reset for hunting season. So all the stuff
that's accumulated over the summer, we got to get everything
in its place for hunting season because we you know,
we have to during hunt season. We have to drive
an hour to where we hunt, and sometimes we do
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it early in the morning before daylight, and she wants
everything in a place where we just lot everything up
and go, you know, we don't have to get up
quite so early.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
My wife walks in the closet stuff on it, walks
out the door, and hops on a four weather and
goes across the yard.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Life is not that easy for me. So But anyway,
I was digging through we were throwing stuff away whatever,
and I found I found some old hunting license of
mine because I keep them, the ones with the duck
stamps on them. I've always kept them. And I found
some from man, you know, back in the late eighties,
and duck stamps were eight dollars. I've got now they're
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twenty eight dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I've got one for every years starting in ninety three. Yeah,
and I've got them a little frame in my study.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I think I had to start buying a hunting license
in nineteen eighty four, and I've bought a hunting license
a Florida even though I don't hunt in Florida anymore. Yeah,
I still buy a Florida hunting license. I still buy
because just like we were talking about, the theme of
this show is all of that money that's spent on
hunting license goes to conservation conservation officer funds. Conservation officers,
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it funds conservation programs. The federal duck stamp program started
way back when, and you know, the when federal the
federal government got involved in duck hunting because of the
market hunting had almost wiped out several species of ducks,
canvasbacks being the big one, because that.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Was where they made a comeback.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, and the because of hunters and because of people
buying hunting license and a little bit of regulation and
a lot of encouragement to hunt. They raised millions of
dollars of that stuff, you know, so that you can
have places like the Saint Mark's Wildlife Refuge, which is
a place for the ducks to go in the wintertime
and not be bothered, you know, habitat and it hunters
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fund habitat all over the ducks, Unlimited, Quail Forever, National
Deer Association, all of those, you know programs, even the
local associations like Florida State Doll Hunters Association. Whether you
agree whether you like doll hunting or not, or agree
with it or not, it doesn't really matter. It's if
you want this way of life that we have that
we enjoy so much. To exist, we have to be
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involved as sportsman.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
It's just period because well that and I like to
win the prime.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah. I don't even duck hunt really much anymore, but
I still buy a duck stamp every year because I
know what the money goes to. And I'm still a
member of these organizations. Of every one of them, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Not had a duck stamp will get you. That's your
entrance to the National Pastional Parks.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
That's correct, pay fee, that's that is correct that you
can you can show your duck stamp and get in
the parks and it's going to you know, it's awesome
and it's good that we do that. And but you know,
like we were talking with them, if if if the
the anti hunting, anti fishing people are starting to become
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numerous enough that we have to be involved as well,
because we tend to sit back and want to live
our o life and not get involved in stuff like that.
But we're the ones towing the line right now to
keep because they're never going to be happy. If they
can stop the dog hunting, they can stop the bow hunting,
they can stop the hunting all together and then they
then they're going after the fishing. And you can bet
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we can.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Get the high capacity magazines and we can get to
semi auto. We can get this with just the thing,
the same erosion of our rights and freedoms one stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
At the time he said that, the woman said, they
we're going to spear a bear to scare.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Sc scared one to death.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
That's about my life.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
And how you're gonna scare him to death.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I mean that obviously she's just crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, I think that's what you call, Karen.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I'm legitimately convinced that these types of individuals are so
animated by what they believe because they have literally never
touched grass like in their life. Like they are rootless, cosmopolitan,
they have they've they're completely disconnected from the traditions of
their immediate fathers and grandfathers, and they're just they're better.
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They're angry, and they don't want us to.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Have six a month to say some kid overseas and
some a s P S or whatever.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I disagree with you that they actually put the commercials. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
They're they're they're trying to make you donate. They don't
donate anything.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
They listen. I'm all about compassion. And it's when it
comes to animals, you know, I listen, I recognize and
when you farm and when you have animals, whether you
have a few chickens in your yard or whatever, so
we all have to internally we draw a line. I mean,
I don't really I don't name certain chickens because I
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plan on eating them, all right, but the ones I
name and I pet and a tree. I feel like
even with a pig, there's a line you cross between
a pet and food and that. But that's internal, that's emotionally.
That's something that you decide because you sell that pig
that you raised and loved. It's like these kids that
do all these show animals that you know, they go
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and they compete, and they spend all this time sold
go get it somewhere probably, and you know, and that's
the thing is been. But you assign value to that
on an emotional level, and those people's emotions override everything else,
and so they only see it from the emotional and
not the logical side.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
And we'll be right.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
It's a driving anchor.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I'm so huglining.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
And we're back. So anyway, it's just I just sent them.
I'm almost send you on. I got some pictures that
my my I acquired a lot of my daddy's old
family photos and stuff the other day to keep for
safe keeping to share with the family. And so yeah,
there's there's some I'm sending you guys. Another one. I'm
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hopefully Grant might have put some of these up on
the thing, but I'm pretty sure one of these pictures
is of a fish fry based on the old I
g a paper sack.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
There is a paper sack, probably got some corn meal
in it.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And right, it looks like and and then there was
pictures of a stringer, a bass or two there, and
an old wood and john boat. What it was that
old Johnson motor on the Johnson.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
That's the same one I first ime on with bastards
and old Johnson just like that.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, and look at the cars.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
And my uncle, my uncle, Pete, Pete Ingram was a
heck of a bass fisherman back in the day. And Daddy,
Daddy was well into it too. And yeah, that's uh
talking about memories and and coming up. And now the
fact that I don't bass fish is because Daddy ended
up having to work too many hours and got me
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on a tractor and I ended.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Up farming and he had to mind the farm.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, it was It's one thing you know, he had
when he was working and not farming, and he had that,
I think pretty much when he went to farming, that
all the spare time went away and I expressed an
interest and that was my mistake.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
So one of those cars in the background looks like
the General Leaf from Dukes.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Well, there's some old stuff in there. There's old family photos. Man,
I didn't even know they existed until the other day.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
That's a Camaro. That's a camaro or a firebird Ford Will.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
We'll post these on it. We'll post these on the
YouTube thing. And but anyway, so, yeah, Paul, you were
talking about you know, uh, I know you like to
take kids fishing, and a lot of parents don't have
access to take kids fishing. And one of the things
you offer is the ability to go out and you
have such a passion. I've seen you with my son
CJ out there on the boat and sharing that very
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thing right there. For a lot of people don't have
access to that, and that's the reason hunting and fishing
and things are again up on the ropes a lot
of times because a lot of people don't have the
ability to share that with their family. They don't have
the ability to share that experience. That's right, they just
ignore it.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah, it's it's a you know, I've been very fortunate
to have a lot of people catch their personal best bass.
There's nothing more exciting having a kid, you know what
I mean. It could be a fourth whatever size.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
It is, and it's never called I've.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Had that happen for it, you know, and it's you know,
I you know, I pray every morning before I go
out that the Lord will give me the wisdom to
speak to these kids in the right way and give
show them His glory when I'm out there on the
water and not preaching to them, but just showing them
God's grace, you know what I mean. It's just seeing
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I can I have so many stories like that. I
can visually remember when your son caught that biggest crappie.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
That was a big one.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
That emotion that and I'm trying to you know, that
was awesome. It was you know. I hope he remembers
that and maybe one day he'll want to go again
or remember that now there you know, what I'm saying
that it's just incredible. And I know, JD, you've got
I mean, your parents took us, dad, your granddad took
you when you was Yeah, just like Charlie.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Yeah, oh my whole life. And I was going to say,
you know, my granddaddy did instill all that. I mean,
my dad wasn't a big hunter fisherman, and my dad
died neither. And my dad died when I was young.
I was thirteen years old, and right, that's right at
that pivotal point. And a lot of kids life when
they're uh, you know, nowadays more than ever, presented with
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a path, and sometimes the path is really bad, and
sometimes you know, you can turn out that that kid
can turn out to be something good or something bad
in a matter of a couple of year years. You
can you see a kid Fred deals with this all
the time. In the criminal justice system, you know, sometimes
it's that one wrong, one wrong path, or that one
wrong step that can send somebody down a lifetime of problems.
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And I honestly believe that my granddaddy getting me, giving
me that love for the outdoors and fishing and hunting
probably you know, uh, and gave me somebody to look
up to, and that but guidance in my life, and
and also kept me out of trouble, you know, gave
me something to do where I wasn't hanging out on
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the streets and running with the running with bad people
and doing all that stuff. And you know that's the
stuff that leads to that. But he kept me in
the woods and kept me on the water.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
And has protected me my whole life.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
It's the same reason I opened up my pond to
the kids in the neighborhood. You know, they come down
and they they put the fish back, they keep their records.
They let me know what's going on. I get one
kid in particular, several years back, knocked on the door,
warned fish, and I said, sure, go down and fish catch.
You know, let me know what you catch. Throw everything back.
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That kid, at the end of the year had mowed
lawns all summer and bought me a bass Pro card
and put a thank you note in there, and that
he was seven and eight when he started. That he
is he's he's almost out of high school now and
he's matured into a fine young man.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
I see kids and it just does my heart good.
And the neighborhood. I live in corn Lakes. There's like
five lakes that if you're you know, if you if
you live in the neighborhood, you can go access those
lakes and see those little twelve year old, ten year old,
twelve year old boys riding down the street on their
bicycle carrying their fishing pole headed to the pumps.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Exactly what they need to be doing.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Yeah, and they're not breaking into somebody's house that they're
doing that. They're not out doing bad things. And seeing
them go down you see the same thing going down
to the boat ramp at Bullheady on Lake, them on
your fishing off the dock and stuff like that. And
those kids, I'm not worried about those kids.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
They're good kids.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Although I did have a case where a guy was
up in MIKASSOOKI was riding up to one of the
plantations and catching bass out upon and selling them to
the neighbors. That he lost his bicycle and his fishing
rod and his stringer of fish because he ran and
left the bicycle to stringer of fish and the fishing
pole there and they got thrown in the dumpster.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
We'll see, he's not getting the guidance that I was
talking about.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Someone didn't teach.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Him, right, he gets caught up by're gonna get some guidance,
I'm telling you anyway.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
But that's right. You know, being out there on the water,
I look for opportunities to you know, if you see
some trashun true hunters and fishermen are true conservationists. They are.
And you hear these people to come to the bear
thing that they never.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Were, threw their cigarette butt out of their window on
the way in.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Well, there's a there's Danny Melvin over in Marianna. He's
got a crew of folks that go up and down
the Chipotlea River every year and clean up Spring Creek
and the Chipola River where all the people coming from
over this away in the Tallahasse area go down there
and intertube on. And they've passed county ordinances where they
can't have containers on the river, and they go clean
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the thing up, which makes a prettier, nicer place, not
only for us locals, but for the for the the
tourists who are coming over there. But you know, they've
got all kinds of ordnance and they like to fuss
about the fact that they have to they can't have
these containers on the river, not because they just and
I've seen it happen. Somebody reach over there with a
beer can on side of the boat and fill it
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full of water and let it drop to the bottom
of the creek or the river. I've seen that happen.
And you can't you know. But the thing is is,
you know those aren't artifacts you're leaving, you know, artifacture
the things you find on the bottom river and you
can't pick.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Up the more our lakes, rivers and woods better than
we find them.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, it's uh. And the thing is is it's become
more common for people to go do the cleanups and stuff.
I mean, I think one of the upcoming shows, maybe
next week, we're gonna have our buddy come back, Jimmy
Clellan talk about the some stuff on Apple that's coal river.
Because now they've got Army Corps is doing a survey,
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wanting to go back to the river and start uh
doing some some snatching.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
On the bottom of the river and uh snagging, snagging,
snagging and taking the taking stumps.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
And and they're trying to make it a navigable waterway
again and then maybe do some dredging. I don't know
the whole story, but he's gonna come talk about it.
And you know there's a whole environmental side of that too.
So you've got the commerce side, you've got an environmental side,
and you've got Florida, Alabama and Georgia that don't always
get along real well when it comes to that river.
So no more, not in years, well not right now,
(45:42):
but they might, but they might be starting back, you know.
So I don't know before we go, Fred, what is
that thing you're playing with over there?
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Okay, so I guess I hold it a small camera.
These little dudes, these are some kind of Mayan gods.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
That they you got to take them home with.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Well, that's what I will, and I come back at
night the hotel would be one of these sitting on
my pillow. And there's a note in there, and it's
you're supposed to have like good, it's gonna watch you
while you sleep.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
And protect you from snakes.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Well, you take them things and run it's supposed to
give you like I don't want none of that.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
You obviously did not see that Brady Bunch show where
they found the found the tiki doll in Hawaii, and
it was haunting them and causing all kinds of bad luck.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Now, so this thing is supposed to give you good dreams,
and so I stuck that thing above him.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
If you take to drop some acid, it's a multicolored,
bright pastel, very bright, almost neon, little tiki.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
It's a voodoo. We've got a fishtail on it.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Fishing the grass offer or something.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah, I don't know what it is, but the dreams
I had.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
I that was the tequila worm.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
That was I mean, when I woke up the next morning,
my wife was curled into a ball at the edge
of the bed and I was smiling. And then I'll
just tell you I don't want She's been out of
town past couple of days, but this dude's going on
my bed post tonight.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Bless your wife.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I'm sorry I asked, and I'm sorry you brought him.
I'm not asking Torow. No, I don't want anything that
you've had, and I don't know where it's been.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
So you just I don't want nothing looking at me
while I'm sleeping.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Say it looks like something one of those kids cartoons. Hey,
let's see all next week.
And welcome to the town outdoor show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Charlie Buenos Dias.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
You know, but nobody knows what it means.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
A lot of people do.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Hello, folks, he's Fred and I'm granted.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
What did you mean it means? Good morning, guys, I'm
I'm Fred. You said, That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I know what, I know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, yeah, that was, Yeah, that was. There were some agos,
there were some amigoss migos with tequila and margarita.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
So anyway, if anybody wonders, Fred was gone, I know,
and I went to Mexico.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We went to Mexico and uh and they.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Let him back in and they apparently didn't get the
memo we sent.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I guess, well I did get.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Did you get padded down?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Really good?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Get get a little a little bit of hassle coming
back in the States. I wanted to know if I
had anything to declare, And I said, I declare, I'm back.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
But they roll out the red carpet for you.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
They didn't give me any red cars.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Don't you know who I am?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Ah, Yeah, I didn't get any of that. I had
no problem getting into the country.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
You're a viral podcast star.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
You should have told.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, they would have heard.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Virals would.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
From need to be.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
But you're smuggling under their mask. My turkey neck.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Did get it. Did get a few cigars across the border.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So don't make any admissions.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I didn't say they were legal.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Well, yeah, you bring back cigars just longs and not
made and Cuba bring.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I would never do that unless you knew you can
get away with it.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, if you knew you could get away with it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
If I knew, We'll see what you do.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Is you buy ar trou one this made in a
country that because they make them in countries that are
legal to bring in, and you know all that, and
then Dominican you get a good Dominican cigar, and you
take the you smoke it, and you take the take
the ring, all that, take the wrapper off and put
the in theory, in theory you put the wrapper on
(02:08):
the Cuban.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Then you just you wouldn't wouldn't think of anything like that, Yeah, wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
We wouldn't put the Cuban wrapper in your luggage and
nobody sees that piece of paper.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You might not consider really doing it, but you think
about it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I mean, nor would I buy anything at their pharmacy
and put it in a different container.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Oh lord, yeah, you're gonna be on.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
A I'd be careful with them. Twenty cent apiece viagras
they got down there, I'd be real careful with that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Uh yeah, it's been a stiff vacation.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
There we go get one of them hung up in
your throat and with a stiff neck.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh my lord, now, yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It was quite an experience.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So what what's the wall? What's on the table there?
You brought it in a bunch of peppers, which we're
not going to be rying here in the studio. Well,
I promise you that.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Uh you know, last night is bumping around in the
garden because I left all the tequila in Mexico.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I got a hundred dollars bill in my pocket. I
want to watch you eat one of those Carolina reapers.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
This is a Carolina Reaper, which is the hottest pepper.
Noon to man.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Hold it up in front of the camera.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Shu, there a hundred dollar bill right now. If you're
gonna eat, if you eat one on like milk, no milk,
no milk, you got to eat it. Not make a face.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, no, it's I can do it under the right.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Sure, yeah, but how.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Much you don't have to hold it up forever. I
just set it back down like a minute a half later,
you still got that pepper bag holding up in the
air like Scranston turned the camera off and everything.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Man, it's scared to put it down because it's liable
to go off. Like, why did say that out loud?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Then I got a sort allegedly that that I picked
all these in the guard. I got a hollowpenion here,
got some Hobbonaro's, got some uh that's a dade old pepper,
which is a pretty.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I've got a I got one of Bobby Williams that
hunts with us. Brought some dadel pepper nattle pepper pepper
sauce up here. That stuff good.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So I brought them all for y'all so.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
You can see them in there. They're hot enough. Yeah, yeah,
I don't even it hurts you.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So interesting trip to Mexico this year the ostentiically go
down there to play golf, which I did not well,
because you don't play golf with margarite as well.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, it probably makes it more fun.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It does. It made it a lot of fun, and uh,
we got an early tea time this year.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
So it's also not good when you're in drinking margarita now, well.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Unless you start drinking them early, which I might have done.
And uh so we were like the first or second
people on the course this year. Well the place we
were called it's it's called a Maya Kobo, which is
it's like a wildlife preserve where you can put some
hotels in there, and I think there's four of them
(05:11):
there and it's it's kind of in the jungle, so
you get that kind of experience. And we had all
kinds of wildlife that we're still on the course and
they have this one animal down there called a quati.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah that is like that's the coon looking look like
a raccoon tail ringtail thing on.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, it's kind of a cross between a rat, a
possum and a raccoon. Yah and uh and say he's
out there. There was like a hundred of these dog
on things on the on the second fairway and I
thought there were geese from the distance. I hit the
ball in between them and they all kind of gathered
around it, and I'm like, what the hell's going on there?
(05:48):
And I get up to the to the to my
ball in the cart. Two of them hop on the
cart with me, and I'm like, I don't know what
y'all are thinking. Wife's freaking out.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I finally got him off the cart and we got
out of there, and I think a double battle. Got
up to the next hole and there's these lizards that
looked like they're about a foot maybe foot and a
half two feet long, and they got this kind of
triangle head with a plate. I don't know what he was,
(06:22):
but there were two of them right up there on
the tea box and I'm like, I don't know if
I can walk up to him or not, so but
I did. And I didn't know what they were going
to come.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I only had something like a stick or something.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
There was two, and if they were going to come
at me, I was only going to be able to
take out one. And so I got the wife out
with her golf club and she didn't want to come
up to the to the tea box. And they didn't
come at me, but they got up on their hind
legs and ran the full length of the fairway, arms
flopping out like that. Yeah, I mean it was just
(07:02):
a and I'm like, we're in Jurassic Park. Uh So
then you know, get back to the to the hotel
after the to the after the golf game, and I with.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Three cartel members waiting on you wait and see what
the story goes.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So there was a little little plunge pool at our villa.
It was right on a canal that had crocodiles in it,
and that was neat to see those pool No, the
canal did. And uh so as I go to getting
the plunge pool, there's a snake in the dog. I
didn't know whether what he was, so.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Well, that's something that we're kind of used to here.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, so, I mean, and he was having a problem
getting out of the plunge pool. So I was like, well,
better catch him and get him out of there. But
I don't know if he's veno us or not.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So you know, if you only had a stick, So
I used.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
The old the old Jim Stevenson snake camp technique that
he taught was when we were catching watermarks since at
six years old. And uh so grabbed him by the tail,
held him up so he couldn't come up and get me,
and then finally got his head down and put my
head hand. I said, caught him by the ead and
I still couldn't identify him. So I decided that the
(08:13):
closest place to our villa was the Spy. And they
had all these these you know, masseuse women in there,
ready to give you a massage if you want to.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, they rested that. Yeah, some reason I didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I didn't. I didn't think that this was that kind
of spot.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
But anyway, so there.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I walked into the spy with a snake and
I'm like, hey, y'all know what this is. One of
them about had a heart attack, I heard spent women's
Spanish cuss words, and they ran me out of.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
The crazy Yeah, ran me out of their local gringo.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Catch one of the guys walking down the air and
I'm like, he's where are you from? And I was
it Florida and oh Florida.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Shout up down there.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh yeah, well, and so I finally let him go.
Came back and the suits people, I said, what did
you do a snake? I said, I put him in
the side room too.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Somebody's not gonna have that ended.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
They'll be showing a snake.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Hey, we run out of time for the first segment.
When we come back, we're gonna have a couple of
special guests, and we'll probably run in the next segment,
maybe for the Wiregrass segment too, because it's key over there,
and then we'll roll back in. We'll listen to some
more of these stories and I want to break We'll
find out how many of them are true.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
I'm sure all of them know I.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Pad there one percent. We'll see in just a minute.
(10:09):
So we have some special guests on the.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Show, Yes we do. We got Casey Smith who's a
good friend of ours. And yeah, local local hero. I say,
he's alignment. He keeps the power, he keeps the power
going when the storms have a knife building maker hunter extraordinary.
I get to see Florida man, all that Florida man training,
(10:32):
training some daughters to just be regular old I got
Florida women down there.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I mean, he's he got it going on. You go
to Liberty County, you might run into him and that
could be good or not, depending on where you're at.
Don't be out there trespassing on his place.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Local Law forcem's been working over time with you. I've
been proud of.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Them, and uh and Blake Burns and and they're with
the Florida Dog Hunters Association.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Florida State Dog Hunters Association.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah, and we we're gonna let you let you guys
one take a victory lap. I think we can. I
think we can say we had a h had a
win a couple of weeks ago at the commission meeting
and uh a big, big, big turnout. Uh. The Commission
voted in favor of hunters and in uh in favor
(11:19):
of proper game management and uh so uh with with
a lot of bust in anti people from who knows.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Where, Tampa, Orlando we know for sure, Yeah, actually advertising
it on Facebook. They would come, pick them up, put
them up, feed them, Yeah, probably pay them, but we
don't you know.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, probably never proved that either way. But the fact
of the matter is there was a bunch of bunch
of tour buses.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Free bust loads.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah yeah, uh and they have been attending these meetings
all over the state. And we talked about it on
the show, or I talked a lot about it. I
got I get kind of I get kind of wound
up about these things sometimes because I don't want to
see my way to life go away.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
We're passionate about it really passionate.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah, absolutely, so tell us what you guys are all about.
I mean the dog hunting kind of speaks for itself,
but you guys run run dogs for I'm assuming deer
and hogs, and we.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Do well bears maybe everything. Well, when I was a kid,
you know, me and my dad did a bear hunt.
We started out dog hunting for deer, and then we
moved over into bear and hogs and you know, and
then they shut it down. There wasn't enough bear and
I agree back then there wasn't. I remember the last
couple of years we hunted. You literally tracked all night
(12:31):
just to find a track to have to run the
next day, and so it probably needed to happen. But
it's not like that anymore. The bears have rebounded tremendously.
I mean, when you're at the top of the food chain,
you know, and nothing's hunted you in that many years.
And then they did have the one little hunt in
twenty fifteen, and I think they wanted three hundred bears
and it was over three hundred took out in two days.
(12:54):
So the bears have made it back. But yeah, we
do it all, especially in Liberty County. You know, there's
so much to do. My hog hunt, you know, we
hunt with the dogs for the birds, we quail hunt.
Me and Charlie have done that pretty good bit. We
enjoyed that a lot. And I love to run the
deer dogs. And I'll be honest with you, I have
just as much fun in the training season running the
(13:14):
dogs and listening to them. There, even a little more
than I do during deer season, because deer season, you know,
we actually try to cut the deer off. But during
the training season, I just let them run and we'll
sit there and listen to them, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And now you can watch them. Now you can watch
them on the GPS. Yeah, so that's a you know,
when I grew up running deer dogs dog hunting over
in Gaston County, over in ton Chattahohche and loved it. Man.
We were hunting little small blocks and we had beagles,
and you ain't never heard nineteen If you've never heard
nineteen head of beagles running through the woods, barking, all
(13:49):
at the same time, and all have different voices, and
you're listening to that, and if it don't make the
hair stand up on the back of your neck, it's
just something to behold.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
It's a feeling you can't hardly describe. You literally have
to experience.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, But so anyway, people don't realize. And I started
to look it up and I probably will google it
at some point in time. Here there's tens of hundreds
of thousands of acres. How big is Appleatch Color National Forest?
Do you have any idea? It's one hundreds.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Just the biggest in the state and the biggest in
several states.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
I believe it's seven hundred and sixty thousand acres.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, so you're looking at round numbers between seven and
eight hundred thousand acres. And there's places in that forest
that man has never stepped on. I'm convinced of that.
You know, so the we don't have anyway, You don't
have anyway, the biologists don't have any way. And knowing
exactly what's out there, you know, it might be a
skun cap running around, who knows, you know, there's little
(14:42):
sasquatch out there at night. Yeah, I mean, if you've
never been out there at night, you hear things that
you just like, I don't know what that was, but
it didn't sound friendly. And you know, so they a
lot of the antis use, in my opinion, probably not
so accurate numbers, because a lot of the antis are
obviously anti hunting everything. And if they if we give
(15:07):
any ground on that, you know, to we've got a
band dog hunt. We can't well that they may be
talking about what you guys do cha chasing deer and
hogs with dogs, but it also would affect if they
wrote the law, it would affect people with quail dogs. Yeah,
you know, with birds that they raised and put out
there to harvest.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
That's what these other guys don't realize. You know, they're
talking about our deer dogs today or bear dogs maybe
in twenty twenty seven, but they're really after all hunting.
If you know, they'll be after your retrievers for ducks whatever.
If we don't all get together on this thing and
make a united front, it'll slowly go away. It's like
the foxpins. When they closed the fox pins in Florida.
(15:45):
I didn't run fox dogs. I didn't think much about it.
I should have been out there with those guys, because
now it's gone, it'll never you know, well, I'm won't
say I never come back, just something we're gonna fight
to get back. But you know, it's just like the
bear hunt. Look how long it took us to get
back to this, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, and it's almost it's taking bears breaking into people's houses. Literally,
it literally has taken that to get it even on
the menu again or even on the up for discussion again.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
At the meeting, And I tell you something else that
anty hunters they're their own worst enemy. Because at this
meeting we just went out The misinformation they spew makes
them look terribly, you not credible. One lady got up
and there said literally you could scare a bear to death,
and then that she was worried about that. And then
one of them said, there never been a fatality in Florida.
And literally there was just.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
A fatality a month ago Florida.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Right, we just had another one where one guy found
them one in his house. So them not having good information,
you know, if they would get up there and had
some decent factional information, But when they just get up
there and holler and s about feelings, I think they're
their own worst enemy. And then when the hunters get
there and do have good factional information, and that's what
we try to promote, I think it makes us look
(16:54):
better and especially in the commissioner's eyes. They see that,
and you know that they're even issuing death threats and
stuff to the commissioners. Who would ever thought that you
would see that. But on one side is that vehemently
angry about it. They lose credibility.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
In my opinion, Well, most of those people are ruled
by emotion, and they're the same people that when you
look on H. Rutherford Cattle out in Texas selling cows.
This is a god fearing Christian selling cows by the truckloader.
I love watching his videos and people, you know, I
got these cows used to turn out cows blah blah blah,
and people, you should let them go, he responded. I
(17:31):
tell you what, you buy them, I'll truck them to
your place and you can let them go. I love
that gas.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Maybe they'll wander over to my house.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, man, tell you what, you bring them on down
and let them go at my place. I'll keep them.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Feel bring them in. I'll bring them in the house
and keep them.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
But it's like, don't eat this, don't do that, don't
do that thing. You know what, and you know you're
on you're we're on indigenous land. We should be apologizing
land acknowledgment and blah blah blah. You know what do
you what did they eat? They were out hunt and
that's that's part of God's bounty. That's what I mean.
And the thing is is just because you eat out
of a grocery store, I just don't. I don't get it.
(18:08):
And the thing is is we, the people sitting in
this room are some of the biggest conservationists there are.
We put more money into conserving our natural resources and
wildlife than all those people do, because all they do
is sit around and fuss and moan.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
About it about it, but they don't do a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And our licenses and our permits and all the stuff.
Just for me to raise quail in my pen and
hats quail in my in my own building out there,
I have to have two different licenses, one for to
raise the quail and one because I have hunting preserved
now at the house, just so I can turn birds
loose out there. And I have to pay for those
permits and they have to come inspect my place. And
(18:45):
you can't tell me that you know, we're not law abiding.
I mean, we're doing everything we can. And that's all
managed and when people go after the one thing and
working dogs, to me is one of the purest forms
of pleasure and enjoy that. Just watching a bird dog,
or watching any kind of dog that's doing what they
are designed to do, you know, in their element, be
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it a retriever or a pointer, or a flush dog
or a beagle or whatever. Man, that is just nothing,
nothing more enjoyable than this world.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
There's nothing compares to it. It's you're truly more one
on one level, you know, with your hunting. And another
thing people don't realize is and to me, hunting with
a dog is the truest form of the sport. From
the moment you start hunting, whatever you're pursuing, those you're
after it, it can use everything and it's arsenal to
get away from you, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And I'm not.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Throwing shade on the way anybody else is hunting, but
you're not up there sniping a deer while he's eating breakfast,
you know, or while he's chasing a girlfriend. The dog hunting,
he knows the minute you start to hunt, he's after you.
So and it's the only form of catcher and lease.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, because you can pick or choose what you.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
With the Bear's a prime example. You run the bear
of a Tria up, you know, he backs up in
basil up. You can look at and say, hey, that's not
a bear we want to harvest. And when we were
bear hunting in Georgia a few years ago, there was bears.
We caught the dogs and walked away from not what
we were looking to for, uh dear, the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
People find it's hard to believe, but I hunt on
desret timber. We have buck management rules. We can only
shoot certain sized bucks. We look at the deer of
us not doesn't meet what we think those screw criteria,
or if it's a dove or yours.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
We catch the dogs.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah, and with the track and train callers that are
mandated now by law, it's so much easier to do. Yeah,
people find that hard to believe, but literally I can.
I can catch five or six head of dogs up
with a holler of my voice, a whistler and honking
my horn. We've never had that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Far far cry from when I was growing up and
they were dog hunting running across our place, and you know,
dogs don't recognize property lines, and you didn't have any
way back then of saying, Okay, that's going too far,
that's so and so it is property down there. He
don't want them down You couldn't do anything about it.
Now you can control those dogs, and it's technology has
come a long way and from voting that lifestyle to
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where you can do it and not be intolerable to
your neighbors sometimes because there's different people that are pretty
dog gone.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yeah, you know, it really was dog hunting back then.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
You hunt half the night, hu hunt dog for the
next day.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah. Uh, to my hey, we used to have dog
pens out there where you'd go when you drop dogs
off when you catch them, and people and the go
get their dogs from there. You know, that's part of
the tradition. The well, we're gonna okay whatever that means.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Thirty seconds charging, that's what it means.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Grant holding up hands.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
He was just telling them a hundred shows we.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Went over this.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, I forgot which hand signal he gave, so I
wasn't sure which one it was. Uh, yeah, well we'll
be back. We'll be back in just a minute. We
got another we got another five minutes of you guys
here in just a few seconds, and we are back
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a Keevan and fine show fashion. We have the oats
off the air, so y'all can't hear them and cancel
us anyway. So tell us more about your association.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
That's your cube, Blake.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Yeah, I'm coming in. I'm coming in pretty much our
our goal. We've ractually adopted this probably within the past
five years, uh, to kind of get out of the
woods and in the community, kind of spread the wealth
in a way.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
And that's the Florida State Dog Hunters Association, right.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
That is correct, that's what's on your hat, yes, sir.
So we we organize local trash clean ups in the
apolots call the National Forest of course, with other organizations,
so they look a little different than us.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Good people though.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
They enjoy our food. So we provide the dumpsters and
and the food and everybody goes out and they pick
up what they can and bring it back in up
where you hunt. Yeah, clean up where you hunt, kind
of work your way back to the food site.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I guess you'll have a social media's Facebook platform, website,
anything like that that we find you, yes, sir, which one.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
It's the Florida State dogun Association on face on Facebook.
As far as we've went so far, all right, just
behind the body.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
To help us with that, you got to remember where.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Much of ye know what I know, exactly what you are.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
We're a little behind the times, so no doubt. So,
I mean it's a good thing in a way. I mean,
you take your kids out there, you try to teach
them the right way to keep them, make them think
about when they got to get out of the truck
and pick that trash up rather than just throwing something
out of the window, you know. So I feel like
that's a huge thing. And you make it fun too,
you know, you turn it into throwing rocks in the
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water hole or you know.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
And it gets back what you said to Hunters and
fishermen have always been the best stewards of the land
in the water, and that's what we're trying to prove
when we do these things. We care about the woods
we hunt sure as much as more than anybody.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Yeah, I mean I've been in the woods mini times
and pull the trash bag while I'm actively on.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
So I got a question for you. If you're running
dogs and you've going to there, but you go out
there and clean up the woods, and then you can't
tell somebody to go down to the tractor tire or
the or the or the truck body and the landmarks,
you know, because of running dogs growing up is like
go down to the crooked tree and set up right
there and they're coming right at you.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Those places are just like good dogs.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
They live on whether the whether the truck bodies there
or not.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
I have one where mister Hunt killed the eight point
where we're not really sure that is at this point.
We just know mister Hunt Kill won there thirty years.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Ago and we kind of got with the times with
the GPS.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So you know everybody, so, well, what kind of radios
y'all round with you?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
We have some where we do like you know, the
private channels, and then we still do the old school
sea Bees of ken Woods. Yeah, zoos Yazoos coms a
real popular one, and then middling in the old school seabes.
Every group's got their own preference, but it just depends.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Got one hundred and eight inch whip on the back.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Of your truck with a linear brand with the split channels, yeah,
man and all go over to McDonald's drive through speaker.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Another thing we do is we've started doing a hunting
expo every year, and we actually got one of those
coming up September thirteenth. Yes, it's gonna be at three
y in Crosslebill. It's a pretty big event. The first
year we did it, we had four hundred and fifty people.
Second year we had about eight hundred and fifty people,
and we're thinking this year we're going to have that
many or more awesome. So it's going to be a
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big event. And the people always wonder what does the
Dog Hunter Association do the money we raised from these
events like this. We used to do stuff all throughout
the year in our community. We do scholarships, We did
several of those for the youth. We do lifetime hunting
license for several We've had some people in our community
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of falling on hard times. We did a bit of
fit for our girl that was going through cancer and
we raffled off and sold tickets for stuff and raised
a pretty good minute money for her. So we're trying
to give back in our community to let people know
that this is what we are. As a matter of fact,
in a Liberty County where they donated a lot of
money to the Liberty Angel Tree for senior citizens and
kids who didn't have Christmas. So that's what your association
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is doing, and that's what we do with these things
like the event we have coming up at the three
wide Crossorville.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That's awesome. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, they I ain't gonna make it. I'm gonna be
fishing in a bass tournament that day unfortunately, but uh yeah,
that'd be something to come out and see what you
guys do. And it's it's a really fun way to hunt.
There's no question about it. It Uh, you know, it
brings back just talking about it brings back a ton
of memories for me. Uh, you know, just the camaraderie.
It's it's and that's what a lot of people understand.
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Oh where you're you're hunting for sport, you know, it's
really not. It's it's kind of like a dove kind
of like the first day of dove shooting dove field.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
It's it's all about the group and the camaraderie and
the friendships that the lifelong meant friendships that you make
doing that stuff. We thank you guys for being on
the show.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
We enjoyda thanks for having us am. We're back. So
as those guys left the Florida State Dog Hunters Association.
They've got the Facebook page under the Florida State Dog
Hunters Association. Should be easy to find if you're on Facebook.
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They have their third annual Expo Saturday, September thirteenth, that's
four pm and it's down in where's the address anyway,
you can find it on their webs on their Facebook page.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Count triple triple y double y.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Wrench Well, I can't read it. The three y rang
the three Harvey Young Farm. So anyway, apparently it's gonna
be a bunch of VIPs down there. They've got his
family friendly. Uh, they got raffle tickets. You get dog feeding,
fishing trips and all kinds of garment products and all
that in your raffle and your ticket includes your annual
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membership dues and the dinner by po and you can
get them online at one of those events, right things.
But go to go to Facebook, look up Florida State
Dog Hunts Association. Apparently it's gonna be a fun thing.
I'm gonna try to go.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
A good group of guys, and I know they'd love
to have you.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yep, yep, they you know, we we go to all
these events all the time. I'd be a good one
for us. Try to make it too as well.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Me and Paul's gonna be fishing in a bass tournament
in Appleachicola at the church. Yeah, Curfew Lodge. It's a
Mason Lodge, Curfew Lodge, and uh in Apple Cola and
uh where you're going are putting in the river. We're
putting in at the ten foot hole and going up
the river. Bass fishing. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
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I'm getting excited about it. But yeah, it's there. It's
a huge bass tournament. I don't know what. I don't
know how many boats they've got in here, but I
know they've got two flights. I think we're going on
the early flight and it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
A really good calls to How does how do you
score that? Is it the number of fish different?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
No, No, it's it's by pounds by weight five biggest fish.
So it's a boat tournament. It's not an individual tournament.
So I'm not fishing against Paul. I'm fishing with him.
We're a team. They're gonna be a team, and it's
we're gonna keep the five. Hopefully we catch five and
then then we hope to catch five big ones, and
then the five biggest fish we catch that day, we'll
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get weighed in and whoever has the most pounds most
pounds of fish wins.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, and I probably have a big fish spot too. Yeah,
is the biggest one.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
You get decent money out of it.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I don't know what the prize. They said it that
they told me that if they got one hundred boats
in the tournament, that, uh, the first prize is ten
thousand dollars. That's not bad, That's that's pretty good. If
you go out there and get we might get lucky
and catch five big ones and win. And then I'm
I'm gonna give Paul, you know, like five hundred dollars
and then I'm gonna keep the rest and.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Then spend it. You might need a will done.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Or yeah, I could.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I might need a you know, speeding ticket, I mean something.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I might not have a fishing license. You know, I
go fishing without a license.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You never know.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I can handle that. We're just fine.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
I hate to break it to you. I got a
five year sportsman's sportsman's goal, so I got a lifetime.
I did the calculations on the lifetime thing here a
few years ago, and I was like, no, the money
just didn't quite work out.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I could.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
I can buy a five year Sportsman. Usually they'll put
them on sale. Florida'll put them on sale ever so often.
And I did all the how long do I got for?
I don't have to buy one anymore?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I got mine when I was like twenty something.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
If I had done that, I don't even know. I
didn't know they had them when we were twenty something
years Yeah they did. And then smart smart to buy
your kids one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I did buy a Grayson one, you know, right after
he was born, because you could buy it for peanuts.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Yeah, and uh so he.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Still got that there, and you know, he'll never have
to have a hunt. The only thing it doesn't cover
is a federal duck stamp.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Yeah, so I was we Uh my wife made me
help her clean out the garage. She calls it getting
the garage reset for hunting season. So all the stuff
that's accumulated over the summer, we got to get everything
in its place for hunting season because we you know,
we have to during hunt season. We have to drive
an hour to where we hunt, and sometimes we do
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it early in the morning before daylight, and she wants
everything in a place where we just lot everything up
and go, you know, we don't have to get up
quite so early.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
My wife walks in the closet stuff on it, walks
out the door, and hops on a four weather and
goes across the yard.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Life is not that easy for me. So But anyway,
I was digging through we were throwing stuff away whatever,
and I found I found some old hunting license of
mine because I keep them, the ones with the duck
stamps on them. I've always kept them. And I found
some from man, you know, back in the late eighties,
and duck stamps were eight dollars. I've got now they're
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twenty eight dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I've got one for every years starting in ninety three. Yeah,
and I've got them a little frame in my study.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I think I had to start buying a hunting license
in nineteen eighty four, and I've bought a hunting license
a Florida even though I don't hunt in Florida anymore. Yeah,
I still buy a Florida hunting license. I still buy
because just like we were talking about, the theme of
this show is all of that money that's spent on
hunting license goes to conservation conservation officer funds. Conservation officers,
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it funds conservation programs. The federal duck stamp program started
way back when, and you know, the when federal the
federal government got involved in duck hunting because of the
market hunting had almost wiped out several species of ducks,
canvasbacks being the big one, because that.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Was where they made a comeback.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, and the because of hunters and because of people
buying hunting license and a little bit of regulation and
a lot of encouragement to hunt. They raised millions of
dollars of that stuff, you know, so that you can
have places like the Saint Mark's Wildlife Refuge, which is
a place for the ducks to go in the wintertime
and not be bothered, you know, habitat and it hunters
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fund habitat all over the ducks, Unlimited, Quail Forever, National
Deer Association, all of those, you know programs, even the
local associations like Florida State Doll Hunters Association. Whether you
agree whether you like doll hunting or not, or agree
with it or not, it doesn't really matter. It's if
you want this way of life that we have that
we enjoy so much. To exist, we have to be
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involved as sportsman.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
It's just period because well that and I like to
win the prime.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah. I don't even duck hunt really much anymore, but
I still buy a duck stamp every year because I
know what the money goes to. And I'm still a
member of these organizations. Of every one of them, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Not had a duck stamp will get you. That's your
entrance to the National Pastional Parks.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
That's correct, pay fee, that's that is correct that you
can you can show your duck stamp and get in
the parks and it's going to you know, it's awesome
and it's good that we do that. And but you know,
like we were talking with them, if if if the
the anti hunting, anti fishing people are starting to become
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numerous enough that we have to be involved as well,
because we tend to sit back and want to live
our o life and not get involved in stuff like that.
But we're the ones towing the line right now to
keep because they're never going to be happy. If they
can stop the dog hunting, they can stop the bow hunting,
they can stop the hunting all together and then they
then they're going after the fishing. And you can bet
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we can.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Get the high capacity magazines and we can get to
semi auto. We can get this with just the thing,
the same erosion of our rights and freedoms one stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
At the time he said that, the woman said, they
we're going to spear a bear to scare.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Sc scared one to death.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
That's about my life.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
And how you're gonna scare him to death.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I mean that obviously she's just crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, I think that's what you call, Karen.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I'm legitimately convinced that these types of individuals are so
animated by what they believe because they have literally never
touched grass like in their life. Like they are rootless, cosmopolitan,
they have they've they're completely disconnected from the traditions of
their immediate fathers and grandfathers, and they're just they're better.
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They're angry, and they don't want us to.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Have six a month to say some kid overseas and
some a s P S or whatever.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I disagree with you that they actually put the commercials. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
They're they're they're trying to make you donate. They don't
donate anything.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
They listen. I'm all about compassion. And it's when it
comes to animals, you know, I listen, I recognize and
when you farm and when you have animals, whether you
have a few chickens in your yard or whatever, so
we all have to internally we draw a line. I mean,
I don't really I don't name certain chickens because I
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plan on eating them, all right, but the ones I
name and I pet and a tree. I feel like
even with a pig, there's a line you cross between
a pet and food and that. But that's internal, that's emotionally.
That's something that you decide because you sell that pig
that you raised and loved. It's like these kids that
do all these show animals that you know, they go
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and they compete, and they spend all this time sold
go get it somewhere probably, and you know, and that's
the thing is been. But you assign value to that
on an emotional level, and those people's emotions override everything else,
and so they only see it from the emotional and
not the logical side.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
And we'll be right.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
It's a driving anchor.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I'm so huglining.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
And we're back. So anyway, it's just I just sent them.
I'm almost send you on. I got some pictures that
my my I acquired a lot of my daddy's old
family photos and stuff the other day to keep for
safe keeping to share with the family. And so yeah,
there's there's some I'm sending you guys. Another one. I'm
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hopefully Grant might have put some of these up on
the thing, but I'm pretty sure one of these pictures
is of a fish fry based on the old I
g a paper sack.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
There is a paper sack, probably got some corn meal
in it.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And right, it looks like and and then there was
pictures of a stringer, a bass or two there, and
an old wood and john boat. What it was that
old Johnson motor on the Johnson.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
That's the same one I first ime on with bastards
and old Johnson just like that.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, and look at the cars.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
And my uncle, my uncle, Pete, Pete Ingram was a
heck of a bass fisherman back in the day. And Daddy,
Daddy was well into it too. And yeah, that's uh
talking about memories and and coming up. And now the
fact that I don't bass fish is because Daddy ended
up having to work too many hours and got me
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on a tractor and I ended.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Up farming and he had to mind the farm.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, it was It's one thing you know, he had
when he was working and not farming, and he had that,
I think pretty much when he went to farming, that
all the spare time went away and I expressed an
interest and that was my mistake.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
So one of those cars in the background looks like
the General Leaf from Dukes.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Well, there's some old stuff in there. There's old family photos. Man,
I didn't even know they existed until the other day.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
That's a Camaro. That's a camaro or a firebird Ford Will.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
We'll post these on it. We'll post these on the
YouTube thing. And but anyway, so, yeah, Paul, you were
talking about you know, uh, I know you like to
take kids fishing, and a lot of parents don't have
access to take kids fishing. And one of the things
you offer is the ability to go out and you
have such a passion. I've seen you with my son
CJ out there on the boat and sharing that very
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thing right there. For a lot of people don't have
access to that, and that's the reason hunting and fishing
and things are again up on the ropes a lot
of times because a lot of people don't have the
ability to share that with their family. They don't have
the ability to share that experience. That's right, they just
ignore it.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah, it's it's a you know, I've been very fortunate
to have a lot of people catch their personal best bass.
There's nothing more exciting having a kid, you know what
I mean. It could be a fourth whatever size.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
It is, and it's never called I've.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Had that happen for it, you know, and it's you know,
I you know, I pray every morning before I go
out that the Lord will give me the wisdom to
speak to these kids in the right way and give
show them His glory when I'm out there on the
water and not preaching to them, but just showing them
God's grace, you know what I mean. It's just seeing
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I can I have so many stories like that. I
can visually remember when your son caught that biggest crappie.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
That was a big one.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
That emotion that and I'm trying to you know, that
was awesome. It was you know. I hope he remembers
that and maybe one day he'll want to go again
or remember that now there you know, what I'm saying
that it's just incredible. And I know, JD, you've got
I mean, your parents took us, dad, your granddad took
you when you was Yeah, just like Charlie.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Yeah, oh my whole life. And I was going to say,
you know, my granddaddy did instill all that. I mean,
my dad wasn't a big hunter fisherman, and my dad
died neither. And my dad died when I was young.
I was thirteen years old, and right, that's right at
that pivotal point. And a lot of kids life when
they're uh, you know, nowadays more than ever, presented with
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a path, and sometimes the path is really bad, and
sometimes you know, you can turn out that that kid
can turn out to be something good or something bad
in a matter of a couple of year years. You
can you see a kid Fred deals with this all
the time. In the criminal justice system, you know, sometimes
it's that one wrong, one wrong path, or that one
wrong step that can send somebody down a lifetime of problems.
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And I honestly believe that my granddaddy getting me, giving
me that love for the outdoors and fishing and hunting
probably you know, uh, and gave me somebody to look
up to, and that but guidance in my life, and
and also kept me out of trouble, you know, gave
me something to do where I wasn't hanging out on
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the streets and running with the running with bad people
and doing all that stuff. And you know that's the
stuff that leads to that. But he kept me in
the woods and kept me on the water.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
And has protected me my whole life.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
It's the same reason I opened up my pond to
the kids in the neighborhood. You know, they come down
and they they put the fish back, they keep their records.
They let me know what's going on. I get one
kid in particular, several years back, knocked on the door,
warned fish, and I said, sure, go down and fish catch.
You know, let me know what you catch. Throw everything back.
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That kid, at the end of the year had mowed
lawns all summer and bought me a bass Pro card
and put a thank you note in there, and that
he was seven and eight when he started. That he
is he's he's almost out of high school now and
he's matured into a fine young man.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
I see kids and it just does my heart good.
And the neighborhood. I live in corn Lakes. There's like
five lakes that if you're you know, if you if
you live in the neighborhood, you can go access those
lakes and see those little twelve year old, ten year old,
twelve year old boys riding down the street on their
bicycle carrying their fishing pole headed to the pumps.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Exactly what they need to be doing.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Yeah, and they're not breaking into somebody's house that they're
doing that. They're not out doing bad things. And seeing
them go down you see the same thing going down
to the boat ramp at Bullheady on Lake, them on
your fishing off the dock and stuff like that. And
those kids, I'm not worried about those kids.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
They're good kids.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Although I did have a case where a guy was
up in MIKASSOOKI was riding up to one of the
plantations and catching bass out upon and selling them to
the neighbors. That he lost his bicycle and his fishing
rod and his stringer of fish because he ran and
left the bicycle to stringer of fish and the fishing
pole there and they got thrown in the dumpster.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
We'll see, he's not getting the guidance that I was
talking about.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Someone didn't teach.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Him, right, he gets caught up by're gonna get some guidance,
I'm telling you anyway.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
But that's right. You know, being out there on the water,
I look for opportunities to you know, if you see
some trashun true hunters and fishermen are true conservationists. They are.
And you hear these people to come to the bear
thing that they never.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Were, threw their cigarette butt out of their window on
the way in.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Well, there's a there's Danny Melvin over in Marianna. He's
got a crew of folks that go up and down
the Chipotlea River every year and clean up Spring Creek
and the Chipola River where all the people coming from
over this away in the Tallahasse area go down there
and intertube on. And they've passed county ordinances where they
can't have containers on the river, and they go clean
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the thing up, which makes a prettier, nicer place, not
only for us locals, but for the for the the
tourists who are coming over there. But you know, they've
got all kinds of ordnance and they like to fuss
about the fact that they have to they can't have
these containers on the river, not because they just and
I've seen it happen. Somebody reach over there with a
beer can on side of the boat and fill it
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full of water and let it drop to the bottom
of the creek or the river. I've seen that happen.
And you can't you know. But the thing is is,
you know those aren't artifacts you're leaving, you know, artifacture
the things you find on the bottom river and you
can't pick.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Up the more our lakes, rivers and woods better than
we find them.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, it's uh. And the thing is is it's become
more common for people to go do the cleanups and stuff.
I mean, I think one of the upcoming shows, maybe
next week, we're gonna have our buddy come back, Jimmy
Clellan talk about the some stuff on Apple that's coal river.
Because now they've got Army Corps is doing a survey,
(45:11):
wanting to go back to the river and start uh
doing some some snatching.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
On the bottom of the river and uh snagging, snagging,
snagging and taking the taking stumps.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
And and they're trying to make it a navigable waterway
again and then maybe do some dredging. I don't know
the whole story, but he's gonna come talk about it.
And you know there's a whole environmental side of that too.
So you've got the commerce side, you've got an environmental side,
and you've got Florida, Alabama and Georgia that don't always
get along real well when it comes to that river.
So no more, not in years, well not right now,
(45:42):
but they might, but they might be starting back, you know.
So I don't know before we go, Fred, what is
that thing you're playing with over there?
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Okay, so I guess I hold it a small camera.
These little dudes, these are some kind of Mayan gods.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
That they you got to take them home with.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Well, that's what I will, and I come back at
night the hotel would be one of these sitting on
my pillow. And there's a note in there, and it's
you're supposed to have like good, it's gonna watch you
while you sleep.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
And protect you from snakes.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Well, you take them things and run it's supposed to
give you like I don't want none of that.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
You obviously did not see that Brady Bunch show where
they found the found the tiki doll in Hawaii, and
it was haunting them and causing all kinds of bad luck.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Now, so this thing is supposed to give you good dreams,
and so I stuck that thing above him.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
If you take to drop some acid, it's a multicolored,
bright pastel, very bright, almost neon, little tiki.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
It's a voodoo. We've got a fishtail on it.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Fishing the grass offer or something.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Yeah, I don't know what it is, but the dreams
I had.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
I that was the tequila worm.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
That was I mean, when I woke up the next morning,
my wife was curled into a ball at the edge
of the bed and I was smiling. And then I'll
just tell you I don't want She's been out of
town past couple of days, but this dude's going on
my bed post tonight.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Bless your wife.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I'm sorry I asked, and I'm sorry you brought him.
I'm not asking Torow. No, I don't want anything that
you've had, and I don't know where it's been.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
So you just I don't want nothing looking at me
while I'm sleeping.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Say it looks like something one of those kids cartoons. Hey,
let's see all next week.
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