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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And welcome to the town Outdoor Show, Charlie.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm JD.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
And I'm I'm Captain Paul Tyre and I'm Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We got stuff talked about this show. I normally walk
in here and go, well, doom talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We always have something to talk about you. On the
other hand, I.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Forgot she came about my trip to Clearwater last weekend.
Oh yeah, yeah, it was the water clear, It was clear.
But I didn't realize we got caught up in the
middle of on a Sunday morning, in the middle of
a scientology thing going on.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
That's where they're headquartered.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And they were walking around and do you ever see him?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
So they looked like they dress up like bell hops.
They looked like zombie bell hops walking around.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
See Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I hadn't seen him, but John Travolta didn't see him either.
I guess they were in this way. Laura looked it
up on the on the on the property praises the thing.
Didn't do a little research because they where the headquarters were.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah, they owned that like hole downtown. Yeah, they do
the whole.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And well they got plenty of money because they have
all these big, big name stars that.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, Well, apparently this joint that we drove the scientology jail,
where if you've been a bad scientologist, they stick in
there and until you get right with the with.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
The scientology they all run.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, with the universe or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
They space sound like a culture.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, and then they're all walking around all dressed alike,
and they're just they're not saying anything. They look like zombies.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Literally did they all point And.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'm just like, you know, it made me uncomfortable. I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
It was bizarre. I mean just they're waiting on the
Atlas three L three IY whatever whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
If you're a scientologist, you have that right, we gonna
make fun of you though, I.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Got that right, Yeah, And I'm I'm there were hundreds of.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, they're on TV channel and everything, and they.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Were everywhere, and I'm like, how do you get where
do they find these people?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know, what people people subscribe to all manner of
belief systems and whatever, and more power to them. Did
you get out and engage in civil discourse with them?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Guarded? I mean, Laura opposite, I want to interview one
of them, and Laar's like, no, you can't. You know,
It's like no, lock the doors.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You're probably you're probably not the person to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You do not threatening by anything.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's not physically one of those guys that goes to
the protests and walks around talking about anybody want to talk.
Nobody's gonna talk to me. You're gonna talk to me,
and they're just they, you know, start blowing horns at you.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Are you finding your newfound interest in Christian apologetics? Is
that what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I think that's what it was. I want to go
pull the Charlie Kirk on them and say, all right,
come on, it'll be my table out now.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
That would truly be a miracle of God.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Be careful, we'll have to pull ABC and Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
You're rear in my suit and Tile.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I don't know what having to Fred, well, we canceled him. Yeah,
he said some stuff that he ought not just said.
I heard our ratings.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I mean, but the I mean, I just I'm fascinated
by this, this this movement of the people.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Don't read it too much. You might subscribe to.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
What I'm more.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I'm gonna come back in here looking like Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
About the same height. You're all about the same hid
where is that?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Do you do your own stunts? That's the big question.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh yeah, he does his own.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Stunts includes drunkenness, falling off the yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Falling on docs, dancing in public.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeahd does his own stunts.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well I guess I would qualify.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean remember their movie Tropic Tropical Thunder. Yeah, remember
Tom Cruising? There the ball headed?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Uh yeah, there there is that's it.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
He looks just like you. Yeah. I want to get
up and see you.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Nobody's ever compared you to Tom Cruise, have a.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Get compared to Tim Conway.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Well, and that's for a good reason. Anybody out there
in radio land or streaming land or whatever it is nowadays,
virtually just just think of Tim Conway or Tom Cruise
in Tropic Thunder and uh and that's for it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Did he play the ball?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah? He was the bald agent, the guy that gets
on the phone and he's cussing out the terrorists that
are trying to hold the hostage and got you gotta
go back and look at there's a scene where he
dances like to I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It was just not a typical Tom Cruise. You would
look at it and go that's not anything Tom Cruise
could ever do, but apparently he did.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
He did it well.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Tropic Thunder on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
That's uh be rotten tomatoes that thing got, but it
was it was a pretty u I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Just a dude playing a dude acting like another dude. Oh,
there's so many good one liners in that movie. That's
not putting.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Check that out. Yeah, added to my repertoire, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Anyway, anyway, that's scientology for you.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So what do you think about What do you think
about the whole Jimmy Kimmel incident.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I think that people are misguided on this being a
First Amendment issue. It is not a First Amendment issue.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's right and sucked.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, he's right to suck. We could get canceled a
day of the week.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I mean, well, if it was up to ratings, we
probably wouldn't be here.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
But yeah, depends on who you are this time, sir.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, this costs us money. People out there about you,
do you have to pay this? Yeah, we're doing this
as a public service by y'all. Just keep in mind
we're forking out that way.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It's our gift to the local society.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I mean, they're giving me twenty thousand dollars an episode just.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
As sponsored by Talon range. Y'all come see the range
so we can afford this show.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, No, it's a that those rules of FCC licenses
public airwaves, and they they do and can put restrictions
on what you can and can't say on the public airways.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
He didn't have I don't you know. And while while
I don't agree with anything he said, and it was
he it was a blatant miss you know whatever, It
was a blatant lie. What he said was you know,
bad and all that. And there's a lot of people
saying a lot of bad things since since Charlie Kirk's murder,
you know sure, and all of them have the right
(06:36):
to say any of those really bad things, but you
better be willing to suffer the consequences thereof.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Nobody is telling you he can't say what he said, say.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Whatever, so we can get him a cable network. Say
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
First Amendment violation. If the government put him in jail
for sake, that would be a First Amendment violation, that
would be a First Amendment violation. But you losing your
job because you it's something and your ratings are bad
ain't the First Amendment violator.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
And you know they're saying, oh, well, the FCC commissioner
threatened the Yankees' ice, Well what he's the FCC commissioner
was interviewed on a podcast and said, we're going to
look into whether or not he violated the rules. Right,
that's what he said. And if you go look at
the rules and I have, there's a pretty good case
that he did violate the rules.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
And the guy that did that podcast reached out to
two of the national UH shows that put syndicates and
they they're going to cancel it.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
These are the corporations that own the affiliates and the
and you got to understand the difference between an affiliate
license to use the public airways versus a Fox News
cable channel. Completely different licenses governed by completely different rules.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, which is why they Greg Gutfield can get on
there and drop f bombs and all that stuff on
television and not get beat and Fox cable Fox News
not get in trouble. Right, it's not going over the
public airways, so.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's cablecast and it's so complicated. Nobody knows the difference.
I mean, I struggled unders now nor do I care
if I saw Jimmy Kimmel show on on my uh
and I'm streaming it off of a starlink connection, you know,
I'm streaming that, and I walk in the room and
it's on. I turned the channel leaving if I'm not
gonna watch it, because I don't want anybody anywhere to
(08:25):
be able to say, oh, well this that we can
check the box. That location was like too late at.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Night for me. I'm a I'm asleep by then.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
One of those shows were funny to begin with.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I mean Colbert, not since David Letterman and Johnny cars Carson.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
What well, I used to love Johnny Carson. Yeah, that
was and so uh if you go back to Jimmy Kimmel,
who was the other guy there were two of them.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I was going to say that in my Stephen Colbert,
my generation.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Doesn't know really, but likele I was gonna say it,
died as a medium late night really died when Leno retired.
He was like the last like real funny guy that
people actually liked in the stream of Letterman and Carson
Edmund Mahon.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Because but but wasn't Jimmy Kimmel wasn't wasn't he one
of guys on The Man Show or something? Was that
somebody else? There were two there were two guys on there,
and one went ultra conservative and one went after liberal
and they parted ways. And uh, I mean, but here's
(09:31):
the thing is, there's there's what's the what's the the
one that took the place of Johnny Carson, the most
modern version of that. See, I can I can watch
him because he's he just he just makes jokes and
it's not like uber one way or the other. It's
not an enjoyable show that he was.
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An we're back. So I did look up and the
man show was Adam Corolla and Jimmy Kimmel and they
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went two different ways. Jimmy Kimmell became uber left and
Adam Carolla went uber right. And I don't know that
they didn't speak anymore. But you know, Adam Croleer sort
of fell off the radar because, you know, it just
is what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
The show they had the girls dumping on the trampoline.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, yeah, now I know what Charlie Watson. No, it
was just the thing Benny Hill show. But all right,
so I want to cover this would be a good
statement to cover this. We the dangers of AI pressing
had something on the last few weeks. He was lamenting
the AI stuff, and I will tell you there's a
(11:35):
perfect example of why you don't if you use AI,
which is actually a good tool to just push a button,
ask a question, get an answer, but you need to
go back and dig deeper. You need to look at
that and actually research what it tells you, because it's
not always right, particularly when it comes to legal stuff.
Fred that has happened.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
There have been reported cases recently where lawyers have used
the AI function of some of these research like Lexus
Nexus and Westlaw UH and it spits out briefs for
them and they cite cases that either a don't exist or.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Do your due diligence, or B they fully interpreted.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
They are cited for a proposition that they do not
stand for.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Okay, all right, so don't use AI for stuff. I
like using it, but then I research everything that it
refers to and make sure that it's correct. This came
up today because I saw an article written and it
came out of the Tampa Tribune or Tampa Bay Times
or something and it was republished and it said something
about open carrey. You know, open carry is now the
law of the land, and yes, I know it doesn't
(12:37):
demandates in a few days, but the Age has said
he's not going to force it. So it is now
the law of the land. Nobody's making the rest under
that unless they want to get sued. And so it
goes back to quick distracted me. What are y'all doing
playing games?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
There's something in this spitean over there in the corner.
I made two points from to each other, you know
how I am.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I'm sorry sorry, So anyway, so the problem was is
that so this came out and.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Oh, jeez man, really, I don't do anything.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Y'all are like a bunch of children. Sometimes in this studio,
it was just looking at JD and JD's egging and on.
He's like the guy over there, just just making it happen.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Pause. I can't even see him.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Well, I love y'all, but sometimes.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I got my gun on. I'm carrying openly. You don't
want to mess with me today.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Course I got mine on tube. This is a polite society,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
All right?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
All right, So to the point of this, it started
talking about the article mentioned how you could not carry
on a college campus unless you were a student, faculty,
your staff, and then it stopped there, okay, which is
not true. What the statute says is that let's see
any college or university facility unless the licensee is registered student, employee,
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or faculty member of such college or university, and the
weapon is a stun gun or non lethal electric weapon
or device design solely for defensive purposes, and the weapon
does not fire a dart or projectile. So you can
carry a stun gun that doesn't fire a dart or
pepper spray if you're a student, faculty, your staff. You
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cannot carry a firearm on a college campus.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That sounds to me like shir that I just thought
of something. There's there's a certain certain company that advertises
a projectile firing pepper balls and impact weapons. That's that
sounds like something. And they say it's legal to carry
on campuses, and.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
You cannot carry You cannot carry a burner. I was
gonna say it pepper ball firing device on a college campus.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
As it has a projectile.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Because it fires a projectile. Now that let's go over this.
I don't want to run out of time in this segment. Okay,
So in Florida, because I got Florida, Alabama, and Georgia
in Florida. In order to carry a firearm openly concealed,
first you have to be eligible to get a permit.
It can't be a felon. You have to be you
have to be a law abiding citizen, and you have
to build to possess a firearm. But in Florida, you
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cannot carry in a place of nuisance. Well, what is
a place of nuisance? That is a house of prostitution,
or a goubling or a gambling facility. Typically that is
a place of nuisance, all right, a police share for
highway patrol station. Can't carry in the police department or
the sheriff's office, no detention facility, prison or jail. So
if you carry it in, you probably won't be a believe.
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You cannot carry into a courthouse and they will make
sure you know that when you try to pass the
metal detector any court room, except that a judge can
say yes, I'm carrying a gun, or I will allow
you to carry a gun, But a judge is not
going to probably tell you that, especially if you're fred.
You cannot carry in a polling place, so you cannot
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go into a place to vote with a gun on
openly or concealed.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
This applies to all that's not year round, that's just one.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Only during the time that they during polling hours, so
you could go in before and after, but not then
on any other day. They say it's in your church.
That does just because it's a poll of.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So ivy's government building.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
No, you can carry in a government building, okay, any
meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality,
or special district. So if they're having a public meeting,
say city commission meeting, County commission meeting, school board meeting,
you cannot carry in there. You can carry into the
Tallahassee City Hall, but you cannot go into the city
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commission meeting, Okay, that's specific. You cannot carry into the
courthouse regardless. You can't go see your county commissioner with
a gun on because their offices is in the county courthouse.
But you can go into city Hall with the gun.
And I've done it and explain to the guys at
the door that I'm not going to a meeting. I
met with the then mayor with the gun on, and
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I told them I was going to meet with the
mayor with a gun on, and they said, just don't
shoot him. But any meeting that's not the current mayor,
any meeting of the legislature or committee thereof. You can
go into the capital of the State of Florida carrying
a gun, but you cannot go into a legislative meeting
or a committee meeting with a gun on. But you
can walk into the state capital of the State of
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Florida now under law. This has been going on for years.
Any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms.
So if it's like we have the tournament at my
place where we had the skip chootes for the mayor
in FFA, if that wasn't a skeet shoot and it
was not related to firearms, because it's a school sponsored event,
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you wouldn't have been able to carry there because regardless
of the property is, you can't have it as a
school sponsored event. So you can't go to the high
school football game with the gun. And that's also on
school property. Generally, no elementary or secondary school facility or
administration building, so you can't go into your school and
pick up your kid, leave it in.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
The car, which is cut in the car.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Any career center says elementary, your secondary school facility or
administration building. It doesn't mention public, private anything. No career
center which would be like Lively or you know some
some educational facility. Here's another one. Any portion of an
establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises,
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which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose.
What that means is if you go to say Befo
Brady's or Applewe's, and you can you can go into
the restaurant with a gun on as long as the
private property owner doesn't say no. If they say no,
then you have to leave. Now, you're not, you're not.
You're not violating the law by going in with the gun.
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You're violating the law if you refuse to leave when
they tell you to. Now, it's a bit of trespass
if you stay after they tell you to leave. But
you're not committing a crime by going in. But you
would be committing a crime if you refuse to leave.
If you want to stand there and show your butt
and prove a point, you're committing to a phoney from
the moment they say I want you to leave, if.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You don't turn around right then and there and go
out the door right.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So, you be calling Fred to defend you, and he'll
he'll try to find you a good deal. So now
it says the portion of the establishment license just meansy
alcoholic beverage for consumption on the premises. That's the bar.
You cannot go into let's say a Befo Brady's or
Applebee's and go sit at the bar with your gun on.
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You can, however, go sit in the restaurant and drink.
You just cannot be intoxicated and display a firearm. Have
it readily available for immediate use. That means having it
in your hands. So that's another law. But the no
college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered
and you cannot carry it. Just just know that you
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cannot carry on a college or university facility.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
You can leave it that's in a building.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
In a building, you can leave it in your car, okay,
all right, the inside of a passenger term on sterilar
area of any airport, or any place where carrying a
firement's prohibited by federal law. That would be the post office,
of so Security office, any dad gun federal building you
go to. They're not going to let you have a
gun in this.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Once you get into that FED issue. If it is
federal anything, do not go anywhere near that place.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Notice it didn't say anything about banks.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You can carry in a bank, you can carry in
a government building. I can carry into their place. Argue
with me to great links a couple of days again.
That law right there, that is what I just read you, folks.
What I just read you is seven ninety oh six
twelve Florida Statute seven nine seven nine zero point six,
paragraph twelve. Read that that is specifically the places you
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cannot carry. There are no other places that you're not
allowed to carry. But be exercise caution. Now, now you
have to be twenty one or above. Okay, Now we'll
hit Alabama real quick. It's the same list. They passed
this law on twenty twenty three in Alabama, but you
can be nineteen or older. In Alabama they have a
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little more common sense, maybe nineteen year olds or more
mature there. It's the same dad gum list. It's like
they copied and pasted all the way down to places
of nuisance polling places. These are restricted during times polls
are open. Establishments serve alcohol in the primary location that
has licensed to dispense alcohol for onsite consumption, airports, college,
university facilities, Professionals cool, college, athletic events, educational facilities. Don't
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snatch out of my hand one I'm reading it. Okay,
Government buildings and courts. Now, this does include in Alabama,
you're not allowed to carry into a police sheriff, highway
trail station, courthouses, city hall, and meetings. So they did
include city hall here where Florida did not. So if
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you're listening in Alabama, now, Georgia is a different list. Jails,
churches unless you have specific premisers to carry within one
hundred and fifty feet of a polling place, mental health facilities,
nuclear power facility, airports, and schools. It does not mention
college campuses because I think you can carry on college
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campuses in Georgia based on their laws, and that's twenty
one and above.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So specifically say K through twelve.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
It says K through twelve school property or buildings, school
functions and activities on the K through twelve, school buses,
and school furnished transportation vehicles. That's in Georgia. So that's
all the information. Go back and listen to that again
if you need to, or look those laws up, but
don't use AI because they'll steer you wrong. We'll be right. Back.
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portion of the show, the bottom of the hour, airs
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out of one of three, nine out of Dothan in
the wiregrass areas one hundred thousand watts. It goes all
the way down. You can hear it blunts down, you
can hear it way up. So this overlaps everything. So
this is primarily our our North Florida and South Alabama
audience listening, so we can continue this conversation. So I
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think in and you know, on the break, I think, Paul,
you mentioned bar, and you cannot carry in a bar.
Now that means if you go to Cowboys and Doath
and bless your heart, if you go there, that's where
I met my first wife. I hadn't been back. Uh well,
I ain't gonna say it was. I've had finer moments.
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And so when when someone approaches you in a bar
in I South Alabama and they're in the army, it's
probably not a good sign. So I'm just saying, well,
so I got a question for you, But don't carry
a gun there.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I know, I know you might have in Alabama. In Florida,
there are some bars you can go into as an
eighteen year old. They'll put a wristband on you and
say you can't drink. You go in the bar because
there's some here in Tallahassee, college town whatever. In alabam
you can't go in a bar at nineteen. So I
got a question for you. What about the Florida Bama
bar that sits right straddling to Florida, Alabama. You go
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in half of it and can't go the other half.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
They would have a line down in the middle of
it or something.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yes, Oh, they do have a line down. I got
thrown out of that, wasn't there mine? That's the whole
another story.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Uh, well, we met that fella there one time, didn't
we met.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
The owner of he did? He gave me a here's
I'm the guy that owns that. Here's my card. You
got a free drink on me next time you come by.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Did you tell them you were trespassed?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
And a tiki bar in the Virgin Islands, the British
Virgin Islands.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That does not surprise me.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Fred I would say, I got thrown out of a
tiki bar one time back in my younger days. But
I actually fell out, fell out of the tiki bar
down in Islamorada.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You did not mean to.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I fell over the wall and fell out and they
wouldn't let me back in. So does that qualify as
getting thrown out or is that just a you get
a reading on that.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And yeah, so he done fell out.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I done fell out at the bar. I had fell
out of a when.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
You're too drunk to stay in the bar, you should
not be allowed to go back in the bar. I'm
just saying, well, we had pulled up to jose Van Dykin.
You don't want to do that about Lavila and Spinnaker
back in the day, because then you fell out the back.
It's about twenty feet down to the Yeah, they're all
gone now.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I think I went by there not too long ago.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
They were looking at one of them. I think Lavilla's
completely gone. A Spinnaker looked like something out of a
post apocalyptic.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I think they're a movie. Man. Those were That
was the scene of many crimes there. I used to
like sit on the back deck and watch people get
in fights. I remember sitting there, old high school buddy man,
we were sitting there and I said, see that, And
I'd been through the academy and I was a young
police officer at the time, and I'm looking out there
and I said, hey, man, I said, hey, those two
right there fixing the fight. He goes, what do you mean?
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I said, those two were fixing the fight. They're fixing
the tie up. And you could see because they had
bladed lockdown, they had the body language and it.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Was fixing happy one for a lot of cigarette first.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
No, but they tied up and it was it was
slinging and all kind of just everything going on. Is
how did you do that? And I said, I just
body language. Man, I didn't know what I was doing
at the time. I tried. I was smart, but you
know I could recognize.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You about to get in a fight with somebody from
Alabama and they light a cigarette, take a couple of
puffs on it. They getting ready to funk that in
your face right before they punch you.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I'm just that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I've seen it happen.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Well, I just saw that movement with Charlie's hands. That
was one of the most redneck classic moves. When he
said bladed, Yeah, did you see his hands? I'm like,
I can't take him anywhere. Were not even in here.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
That movement you just made with your hands when you
said bladed, you bleeded?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Well, I mean, I speak my mother's Italian man. I
speak with my hands, so you did.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I got the message, ud and clear the knife hands.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Well it makes for good radio. Yeah, you act things
out people.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Oh yeah, Well, you know it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like if you get on the phone, people can sort
of you can they say, if you're talking to somebody
on the phone and you want to sound friendly, smile
while you're talking on the phone, because it will actually
people can sense it. I don't know if that's truely.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Like me because I smile all the time and I
always sound friendly.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
That's because you're laughing at them, not with them.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
No, I'm not smile. I'm a happy guy.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I smile more now than I ever have in my
life because I think you all are all funnier now
and we'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
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we're back. So Fred brought up on the break that
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you know, we we we try to get people to
purchase the right to bear specifically their product, because of
for self protection. It's not insurance, but it's kind of insurance.
It's it's it's a plan where you prepay representat you
pay every mon the small fee, it's not it's less
than twenty bucks. It's in a team somewhere and I
(30:06):
don't remember the exact amount, but it varies. It goes
up every year too, but you kind of get locked in.
And what that does is it pays for your civil
and your criminal legal fees if you are charged or
sued for using force with any weapon, any force in
self defense. That means running over with a car, punching
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them in a nose, or whatever you got to do.
But it covers you in your civil suits and for
your criminal charges. And one of the things that we
like about Right to Bear is it allows you to
use your own attorney. Now, Fred is a lot of
y'all might not know this, but Fred is in fact
a defense attorney. I know it's hard to tell by
the way you act sometimes, but he actually is a
(30:47):
good defense attorney. And I have a low standard. So
then Fred can't You can't actually advertise as being an attorney.
But I can talk about you right.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Now, No, I can this. There's nothing. This is not
an advertisement a client call. This is a real life
disclaimer right there, A client called this way or a
perspective client called said hey, I've listened to your show,
and I said, I'm sorry, and I didn't actually talk
to him. He talked to my secretary and wanted to
know could he list me as his preferred lawyer on
(31:21):
his Right to Bear application form? And the answer is yeah,
you can. You can list me on there, and not
only that, if you want to list me on there,
and if you want to call and talk to him here,
set up a conference. Come in and talk and meet
with me and see that, Yeah, I really do exist,
So I talk to you.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah. The way that works is Right to Bear's attorneys
will vet a local attorney and see that you know
this person is experienced enough and capable of presenting a
valid defense for you, and then they will work on
paying that attorney's fees. I don't know all the nuances
in the details, but it's something if you are purchasing
Right to Bear and you want to use, and I'll
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be honest with you, I would rather use a local
attorney that has relationships, not relations but relationships with other
local the prosecutors, the state attorney's office, the other attorneys
in town that might sue you. It's better to have
someone who understands the local market in my mind, So
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that's one of the biggest reasons we use them is
because they allow you to use your own attorney.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Well, I mean, you look at some of these high
profile cases where where they've brought in these Miami lawyers
and you watch you lose a lot. You watch how
they are treated. I mean it's it's my cousin Vinnie
all over again. It's uh yeah, it's a lot of
times you bring in these fancy silks to lawyers that
(32:47):
from South Florida that come up and don't know how
we do business here, and you know they won't file
all these motions and when you simply.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Had a case one time, this has been going. Yeah,
this has been eons ago. When I was at FSU
Police Department, I arrested a kid, which was our policy
to arrest anybody that tried to steal any books, literature magazines,
anything from Strozier Library. Okay, I mean it was just
you gave them a notice to a peer. Unless it
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was a felony of a book that was worth a
bunch of money, you gave him a notice to a peer.
And that was just the policy of the university, and
I was the enforcer thereof and I arrested this kid
via notice to a peer in court on a theft
of a magazine, a six dollars magazine, okay, that he
didn't even get to leave with. And it was a
swimming Swimmer's Olympic Swimmers magazine something whatever that he was in.
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It was an article about him in the magazine, and
he found a copy of it Strosier Library and tried
to leave the library with it, and he got charge
on a misdemeanor petty theft. And apparently he came from
an affluent family somewhere in South Florida. And they flew
an attorney.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Up here for a trial on six dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Six dollar magazine, paid no telling how much money for
this and still lost. Oh boy. And it was just
me and a in a in a in a junior's
misdemeanor state attorney that had forty seven other court cases
that day, and they flew a thirty thousand dollars an
hour lawyer up here whatever. I don't know what it
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cost them. And I was like, hey, man, if you'd
just gone in there and said I'm sorry, I would
like misdemeanor diversion. They'd let you go. They's no problem
whatever else. But you get my point of all that
is their lawyer was more than happy to take their money.
They would and get on that airplane for the day
and go to Tallahassee to court in his thousand dollars
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suit and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, had lawyer won the case when to check cleared?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, and literally pranced in the court room like you know,
like he was the king, the king, boss and the
and and lost, still lost, still lost.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
It does not you bring a South Florida lawyer into
a North Florida court room, especially one of the outlying
courtrooms in the circuit, it usually doesn't end well.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, And it's it's like I've you and I have
had this conversation, Fred, like when I go on vacation
somewhere to a state that ain't necessarily friendly to the
way I think about things. Uh, I ain't gonna hire
you to represent me in New York, but I bet
you know somebody, you know, you know a guy that
you say this.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
You know, even in I'll take a case every now
and then in Panama City, but not often. I mean
that usually goes.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
On this district out of the circuit.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I've done a few in South Florida, and I've that's
happened to me. Try to case in Key West one time.
That was bizarre.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I mean, well, Key West is kind of bizarre because
you were dancing on the palm.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
You probably fell out of the tiki bar right before,
Like we got footage this guy he fell out of
the tiki.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Bar was probably Fred was probably trespassed from the Keys.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
That week.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, I bet you were celebrating your loss.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
And that trial was I was representing a cop. I
think he was on his third d WI little boy,
I tell you, my lord.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, it's Keys, so you know, I mean marginally acceptable
apparently too to pull off on the.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Side road, which there were none.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I think they kicked you out of the force on
your sixth.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Jesus, Oh, it's good.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
And I think the judge was hammered to doing the trial.
It was and and the prosecutor was was like recently pregnant,
had morning sickness, and she hated me. Yeah, I thought
you're gonna yack on me every time she made an objection.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I will I will say people do not realize the
value of networks. Relationships, being able to have conversations with people,
work things out, sometimes get because most most cases correct
me if I'm wrong for it. Most criminal charges don't
actually make it to trial.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
You don't, as you'd be surprised as well. And of
the trials that happened that happened in courts, criminal cases
are the ones most most often tried, and the ones
that are tried are about less than ten percent that
actually go to actually to.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
The rest of the time, it's negotiating and it's and
it's leveraging relationships and because because the thing is is
if if you're you're talking to the same people all
the time in these cases you're defending people, there's the
same prosecutors, the same state attorneys that you're dealing with,
and you know which ones lean this way or that
way or whatever. And the thing is is just just
being able to have a civil.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Crimes in general, you have you have one one or
two may be at most crimes committed, right it is
a single event. You've got one event. There's usually multiple
crimes on a single event. You've got you've got the uh,
the conspiracy to do it in the first place, you
got the all this other.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Stuff, and you know the resistant when there.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Resisting after the all of these charges you in you
can end up with dozens of charges based on one
single event. So a good defense attorney, even if they
know that their guy is the guy and he's the
bad guy and he done something wrong and he needs
to go to jail, you can go in there and
weed out some of those some of those tertiary.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Where you can't try all of the criminal cases. Right,
So the prosecutor are going to Tree adds the bad ones.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Right and get rid of those, and and you know,
you get to the get to the point and all
that good stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
But if you're a jerk, and if if you hire
jerk for a lawyer, that prosecutor, even if even if
you've got a good case as a defense lawyer, he
not on Tree. Iide your case because you've been a jerk,
and I've been a prosecutor. I know these things.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
You're gonna get all of them.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I am tired of that guy. I'm gonna kick in
around the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Well, there is there is discretion involved from the moment
that you encounter law enforcement on behalf of that officer
officer discretion all the way up to the state attorney.
The state attorney and the judge and everything else. And
the judge is bound by a lot of things, but
that judge make decisions based off how they view things.
You know, they've got guidelines to following in sentencing, but
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you know what they may feel.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Just like you do.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Well, the ones that wear pants, yeah I didn't think
of that, Yeah, on their skirt you We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1 (40:44):
So yeah, on the break, Paul, you brought up We
mentioned discretion before we left, and you said, you know,
jdu and Charlie are law enforcement? Do people get a
break if they're polite? And yes, sir, no, sir, I
will tell you absolutely you are. Now there's cops out
there that are you know, just the facts, ma'am by
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the book Joe Friday, and I'm gonna do the same
thing all the time, but I will tell you human
nature comes into play. And JD mentioned that, you know,
he he reserved his citation book for the people who
didn't know how to act right. And so you absolutely.
And there's a guy that's out of Arkansas that's an
online of you know, an attorney who is publishing a
lot of stuff out there, and he's talking about you know,
(41:26):
just because you can be a butt hole doesn't mean
you need to be on to because it will you
just the minute you get pulled over. What comes out
of your mouth either helps build your case or dig
you a hole, whether you make admissions frecktay. If you
start making admissions, then that digs you a hole. But
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if you start being a jerk, now you don't have
any reason. You don't have to yes, sir, no, sir,
you don't have to be do any of that authority,
but you don't have to. You have the right to
say anything you want to say. But with that right
comes consequence. And you know, Jimmy Kimmel, I tell people,
I tell people in active shooter training, I go, well,
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you know, when you're running out of the building in
an active shooter situation, leave all your stuff because you
need to have nothing in your hand. You're running out,
you've got law enforcement officers running to the scene. Rushing
to the scene, they're going through physiological psychological stress indicator,
they've got tunnel vision, auditory exclusion, they're going through the
same things that you suffer as a citizen. They're running
(42:28):
in there and you're running out, and you've got something
in your hand, and you fit the description of what
they were given you might get shot. Leave your stuff,
put your phone in your pocket, leave everything else on
the ground, run out, show them your hands when they
yell at you and tell you to do things in
the root to you can follow on the plane if
all a complaint later on. If you don't agree with
what happened, same thing on the traffic stop. Just you know,
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don't make it missions. Don't do anything that you don't
have to. I would not personally, if somebody can I
search your car, I would I would not allow them to.
You know, I wouldn't allow anyone to search my car.
And I'm a cop.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
But you can decline that politely.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, no, I'm sorry, sir, I'm not. I'm not going
to say to a search of my deal.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Ain't nobody got time for that. Ain't nobody got time
for that? So somebody go you to go?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Do you mind if I look, do you have anything
in your car? I need to be concerned with hand grenade,
anything gonna hurt me, anything like that, you might know, sir,
Do you mind if I look? Yes, sir, I do mind.
I'm sorry. I'm politely gonna decline.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Because I got to go to go. Have you met
whatever else?
Speaker 1 (43:29):
We need to do whatever else we need to do here,
Please go ahead and do it. But I have somewhere
to be and I don't. I just I know, I
don't have any reason to let you look in my car.
There's no reason if you look in my car unless
you have probably cause you know no sir.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
So I always tell class when when you get stopped,
always have your insurance registration, driver's license, handy.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Don't be don't be digging.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
For digging, digging through stuff. And I took my ownybody
got pulled every once in Jacksonville. As God walks up,
I've got it sitting out the win to handing it
to him. He took that to me, and I'd been
pulled over multiple times and knew exactly what he meant.
He's like he went running back through. He's like I was.
I thought I found a bunch of speeding tickets on.
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It was like, no, I usually get out of him, and.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
Well I got a question. Yeah, being in a rush, right.
This happened to me this past summer when my wife
and I welcomed child number two. If you've ever heard
a story or seen you know the husband dad that
is absolutely flying to the hospital. What do you have
(44:38):
you heard that like that?
Speaker 1 (44:39):
If they're heading towards the hospital, I get out of
that way, but I put my blinders on and I
don't turn around because I know that's the hospital direction.
And they look like they look like they're in a panic.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
You see a husband fly because I thought about that,
you know, because my our child was born like labor
was three hours. It was fast, and I'm thinking in
the wrong traffic jam, I'm I'm delivering the baby.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
I'm like, I gotta go.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Did that on Appleachi Parkway way out one time? You
lady left, I want to say left Perry coming to
Tallahassee and made it to about where Nino's is or
was on Appletic Parkway.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
I did it.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I did a cord front seat.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
I pulled one over one time that was speeding in
front of my house out in chairs community and I
just got home from work, pulled in my yard and
it was right through the school zone, right past my house,
and I chased them down. I jumped back in the
car and the hall button went up there. I stopped
him on the park When I got out and I
was I was mad and trying to breathe calm down.
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I walked up to the car and I said, afternoon, ma'am.
And Lieutenant's tricker and Lee, I kind of shares's office.
The reason I stopped you today is you were speeding
in excess of the post of speed limit in the
school zone. I know it was after hours, but still
you went right past my house going ninety to nothing.
Can you please explain to me why that would have
a curd? And she's sitting there and there's a dog
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between them, standing between her and her daughter in the
front seat. And that's when I noticed the smell, and
I said, what she goes, well, do you have to ask?
And that's when I smelled the dog feces and I
looked in the back seat and it was smeared from
one end of the car to the other, all on them,
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the front of the dog, everywhere. And I said, uh,
and you have a nice day.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
And I got back to my car when I went home.
Excuse me, ma'am, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
I'm like, I'm like, I'd have done that too.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
I was going to say something, but well, let's talk
about fishing.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
About fishing.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
We had a great time.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
They had some stink baiting there.
Speaker 6 (46:53):
Yeah, yeah, wait, Fred, you ain't never use that stinky
catf That was fasty kind of like I antovis.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Talking about that trip.
Speaker 6 (47:04):
That was fun down there.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Jay.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
We didn't catch a bunch of fish, but we had
a great time. And I want you all to know
all y'all listeners out there, mister j D he had
Joffre can throw a crank bait. You know you old
fish every day.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Oh no, you probably don't fish every month.
Speaker 6 (47:19):
My god, you was putting that thing. He'd put that
thing between us. There'd be a branch coming up when
and he'd hit it right between it. You would have
seen it.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Well he had.
Speaker 6 (47:30):
He had a giant much about a four pound mud
fish on he got off.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
I lost a good one though, half way to the boat.
Speaker 6 (47:37):
Didn't I think that one was a bass?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
They were wearing those into a bass, all right, But
it was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
We caught some small ones we didn't. We caught I
think two keepers. We fished all day, caught two keepers.
Caught some small ones I called I called a bass.
It wasn't a whole lot bigger than the crank baity
was pulling.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Had you like a hotel? That was not nice?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
I'm gonna take the family back down there, both in
the boat. Slip is uh water Street, ye, water Street
in water Street. In it was very nice.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
It was very comfortable, very very nice.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
So I texted the morn Whaley, uh just a minute
ago before we started to show, and he said that
eighteen pounds let's see, eighteen point three three pounds by
missed by somebody named mister Dyke's and mister Bailey. The
big fish was six point three seven pounds by Shane Simms.
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So big fish, yeah, I hung. I hung a big
one on the crank bait and got about halfway into
the boat. Then they come off.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
But anyway, that's a strange text from you.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Saturday night you were getting strange texts.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
From about my clothing or something I don't know came
up under your name.
Speaker 6 (48:49):
I think I got that too.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
For what you were Saturday Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Maybe it was Friday night. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
It's one of those home Saturday night you nothing. I
don't know what you talking about.
Speaker 6 (49:00):
Ten thirty eleven o'clock at night.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
You never know.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I mean, you don't got wrong somebody, Fred, I ain't taketed.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Year been well. I want to want to know who
what I was wearing.
Speaker 6 (49:10):
Anyway, do just let everybody know there's a dry skiol
term this weekend.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Oh I did, I did send you a text. I
want know what sized T shirt?
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Oh? Yeah? What?
Speaker 6 (49:19):
Florida bas Station probably about one hundred boats. And I
know the show plays on Saturday, but Saturday ND Sunday,
so Lake Seminole is gonna be a little busy. But
the bass have been biting. I got some revenge on
bass this past week Jad, but they've been biting really
good up there with the fall feet is definitely on.
I know it's starting to warm back up now. You
know the day of this will be like ninety four
(49:39):
ninety five this weekend, but man, that cool weather. It's
merely got cool in the morning.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, and we got some cloud covers from the front
moving through first of the week. Hopefully get some rain.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
When's it? When's the front coming?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
I think I saw Monday maybe.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Yeah, Okay, So the doves ought to be flying on
Sunday because they're going to move in ahead of.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
They been seeing a few till have you.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Yeah, it starts this weekend right.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Ahead of that. For today today, the Twins starts opening
weekend of So all everybody listened to the radio show
this morning in Tallahassee. If it sounded like a young
war wherever you are is because with Duck and Tell
season started this morning. I get the I get that
call from my in laws, who are originally from Miami,
will call me. What world's going on this duck season,
(50:24):
wabit season, duck season something other.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
The call I get is from my kids want to
borrow my guns?
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yeah, so, uh yeah, well that's good the uh. I
will give warning to the uh. I will give warning
to the folks hunting on Lake Ammonia. The lake is
still full of black belly whistling ducks and they are
not legal to shoot during the early.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
You hear that, kids, if your last name is Conrad,
don't do that.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, they speaking of guns before we go. Don't forget that.
The sales tax holiday for firearms, farms, accessories, and fish
and supply some are is still in effect all the
way through the end of the year. Since has been
off the hook, been off the hook.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
We finally got mostly restocked. Right now we're out ever
long that last one from the first week of.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
This is a great time to save seven and a
half percent on a personal defense firearm or hunting firearm
or anything like that. Just come on, come on, absolutely
this is the time to do it. Go ahead and
get it now while it's in stop. We'll see a'all
next time it