September 27, 2025 • 51 mins
This week on the Talon Outdoors Show, Charlie, JD, Paul, and Grant hold down the fort while Fred is off at a wedding. The crew kicks things off a discussion around helping new shooters choose the right handgun as well as comparing Glocks, 1911s, and pocket pistols.
They also swap shotgun stories, discuss the ins and outs of breaking in a new firearm, and wrap up with weather, hunting, fishing, and the first days of Florida’s new open carry law.
Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
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They also swap shotgun stories, discuss the ins and outs of breaking in a new firearm, and wrap up with weather, hunting, fishing, and the first days of Florida’s new open carry law.
Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
Check out our archive of podcasts here: https://ihr.fm/36mzYjf.
Follow the Talon Training Group and Range on Facebook @TalonRange.
Listen live to the Talon Outdoors Show from 10-11 a.m. ET on 100.7 WFLA!
WFLA Tallahassee Live stream: https://ihr.fm/3huZWYe
Follow WFLA Tallahassee on Twitter @WFLAFM and like us on Facebook at @wflafm.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Talent Outdoor Show. I'm Charlie, I'm j D.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Captain Paul Tar, and I'm Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
We have a noticeable absence in the room today.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We do about time the g rated show.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, thank god, I can get some words in there.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's a g rated show. So we're kids in.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We're missing Fred today. He had a wedding this time.
I think it's something a wedding that wasn't a funeral
because he wouldn't. He didn't.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
He was morning climbing up trees and been mourning for
his weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, Fred going, Yeah, Fred going to a wedding. There's
gonna be some drinking going on because.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Any excuse, imagine imagine our excuse, imagine hiring Fred to
sing at the wedding.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
They could have been that.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I would go to that.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm just would well if if Yeah, Yeah, he's got
he has this little book of songs that with his
own lyrics and they are definitely definitely interesting. You know,
that's a man that is an entertaining fella right there.
He's a he's something else. He is something else, that
(01:13):
is for sure. Oh man, that he uh so, yeah,
we were talking now, I was hauling tail trying to
get here today. I overslept. I have not had a
good night's sleep better part a week. I just wake
up the middle of the night. My mind's going somewhere else.
I'm one of those guy's when my brain just goes
and goes and goes, and I can't go back to sleep,
and I get on my phone and next thing you know,
(01:35):
I hear my wife's alarm go off. It's like, okay,
I can get some sleep now. And you know, I
just it's it's and for summer. And last night, so
the Friday, the Jackie Canty Shiff's, I was having this,
having a golf tournament to benefit the Florida Sheriff's Youth
Wrench and I missed. I slept late, and I missed
(01:57):
the perfect opportunity. I wanted to go out there because
don I said, yeah, I said, what time is the thing?
I want to go out there and say, hey, a
couple of people. And she goes, ah, I said this time,
And she goes, well, the ball drop is it so
and so? And I said, okay, so explain that to me.
She goes, well, the helicopter's gonna fly over. I'm gonna
drop a bunch of golf balls and there numbered in
the one closest to the hole, one the eighteenth green
or whatever, and da da da da dam. She said,
(02:19):
I've got to go out there and sell balls. And
I'm like, and I said, so, so, what time do
I get to come out there and go? Hey, Sheriff.
I want to get here. I heard you your balls
are dropping today. I wanted to be here. And I
missed the perfect opportunity to get there because I overslept.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Because you're laid up all night thinking about that joke.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
No, because no, because I was. I was. I was
working on the golf cart that my wife was going
to take out there, one of the old ones from
the Rains that I bought and I gave to put
it at at Inn's house and to something and I
had to clean all the battery terminals and it wouldn't work.
It rode from her house up to the house put
on the charge or something going on with it. I
don't know what's wrong with it. And I was it
was one o'clock in the morning. I'm still getting that
(03:04):
thing fixed, and had it fixed and then it broke
this morning, and uh, anyway, I missed that chance, and
I kicking myself for it because that was a perfect
opportunity for me to Now. The funny thing is is
last night I told my wife I'm gonna go I'm
gonna go do this joke. I want go out there
just to say that. And she don't know nobody to
(03:26):
tell him because I might do it next year. And
and I said, yeah, I'm gonna go by there and
I'm gonna say so and so, and she looked at
me and went, well, yeah, they're dropping the balls at
like eight thirty or eight o'clock. I went, none of this,
you missed a joke, and she goes, huh. And I'm like,
see every man listening to this show news the old
thing about you.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Know, yes we know, yeah, we know. And but she
didn't get it. She didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
She didn't get it.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They would have a lot to say about it.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I just got through telling people this was a g
rated gonna be a g rated show.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
There's nothing there you rated about it. There's no there's
no sexual in you in tho in that it's simply
an age related thing that happens in the ink of
adolescent males. As you know. Okay, he's he ain't old
enough to you know, you know the old sayings and stuff. Yes,
you don't grow up on a farm anyway, Yes, we
(04:22):
know so.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Anyhow so and I walked in and I called and
I texted you, and I'm like, man, I'm running thirty
minutes late. It ended up being like fifteen minutes late.
And I walked in the door and I hustled by coach.
I see JD at the counter and I heard him
saying something by the gun, and I walked in the
studio and went money, all.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Here on you. I got in a hurry for we
was waiting on you.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I was getting educated about.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Something. Clocks and so there was an encounter. And that's
what I was interesting to me in What started this
topic of conversation, which nobody knows what it was, because
I've gone five different directions so far since we started
the show, was somebody walked in and wanted to buy
a firearm for their wife, and I want a revolver,
(05:09):
and I heard JD say things. We parted over and
over and over again over the years. As we firmly
believe it, we just picked the hardest gun in the
case to shoot and.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
They specifically wanted a lightweight thirty eight snub nosed revolver.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Right, I heard, and I remember saying why, and then
I walked on out the room because I knew the
conversation that was about to ensue. And I came back
a little while ago, right before this, we started recording
the show, and you got every semi automatic mid size
on the case out there, going over all the different things,
and they are now firmly on the route to buy
(05:43):
exactly what they should be buying.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
She had had some improper instruction at some point in
time in my life, because the next question I asked
was have you ever had any professional professional training And
the answer was no, But I had training from my
brother in law, my whoever law cousins, brothers, uncle's cousin.
(06:06):
And I said, and I get bet. They showed you
to rack the slide like this, and she said, uh huh.
I said, well, that's why you can't rack the slide,
So let me show you this. I showed her the
correct way, and she's like, oh, well that's easy, yes, ma'am,
it is once you learned the technique, I said, you know,
and then I can tell you why you're why you're
missing because you were you know, trigger control. So we
(06:28):
just talked through some of that and basically taught them
how to buying a gun today right now until they go,
until they go get some training with somebody and maybe
go rent some different guns or whatever else. So I
turned down a gun sale. I've basically talked them out
of a gun sale because I wanted them to get
the right thing and.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Not to guarantee they will buy that firearm here.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, that's that's the value that you have here. I mean,
this is not Walmart. You come into here. That's like
I want to learn how to shoot a.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Clock a handgun?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You never used them, don't have no don't have no
experience with them. Got shot revolvers? Done that? Well one
time I used it cut me. I'm like, why would
I use a gun like that? Because I wasn't talk right?
So was that what I asked you? J Would you
be willing? So will take the time show me properly?
How to you know?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Auto cuts? You?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
That slight?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
So you got slide bite.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, that's just the reason I can't shoot those old
diamond back three eighties. J D and I both lin
that would a crease across the top of our hand
with those things.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Little bitty guns.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, yeah, but if you shoot with your thumb over
behind the grip, your support side, thumb behind the grip,
and a lot of people come here and do that
and they slice their thumb every.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
What's the first thing I said? Both them's on the
same side.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I heard you say that, So that young man, what
was it I was talking to, very knowledgeable, extremely knowledgeable.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
There is gun for me for slide bite and there
I cannot. I cannot shoot a Walter PPK. I can.
I could not be James Bond because having meaty, meaty
hands that thing. It don't matter how I hold it.
I griped that if I grip that gun and it's
gonna leave train tracks on mare.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
They're heavy for little gun.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, and there there's I see people want to have
those and they're cool guns to look at, and yeah,
this is James Bond gun and whatever else. But they
just they've got a bunch of drawbacks to.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Them, a lot of it's big demand for that new
Smith and Wesson bodyguard two point.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Oh oh my goodness, that's that is Yeah, we were
I'm I feel like I'm buying five of those every
other day because we go, we're going.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And our holster sales on our website, which is you know,
we've mad five holds. Just that gum wallet Holsters has
reinvigorated a whole wallet holster market, a little pocket three
eighty market. And how many rounds is that thing hold with.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
The big magazine holds twelve plus one in the chamber
and then the small magazine, the flush fit magazine is
ten plus one.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Wow, that's a lot for the little pocket pistol.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
For a tiny, tiny little gun that essentially fits in
the same holster that the original bodyguard fits in.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, and so for something to keep in your pocket.
And that's there there again. Every now and then somebody
come along and they're always redesigning these pistols, tweaking it
and tweaking it, tweaking. Every once in a while, I
want to just hit the.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Rigor did it first with the Max? They he'll ce
pre max the double stack. Well, they widened the grip
a little bit. They did make it a little bit thicker. This,
this Smith and Wesson is just slim and slender, and
the grips long enough to where even somebody with big
hands can get a full purchase on the grip, which
is important, and it's hues they shoot great. Smith and
(09:39):
Wesson also redesigned the shield called the Shield X and
I really like it too. It's just a bigger than
I mile bear.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So meanwhile, glock's just plugging old pistols work dominate all
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So we were discussing pistol size versus hand size, and
you know anyway.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, little guns are harder to shoot for everybody. There's
smaller guns with a smaller grip if it doesn't matter
if you've got little hands, big hands where guns with
a less to hold on to are more difficult to shoot.
Guns with a shorter sight radius, the distance between the
front side and the rear sight are more difficult to
shoot than guns with a longer sight radius because you
(11:24):
have less room for movement and on a short a
little bit of movement with a short sight radius is dramatic.
Is a dramatic amount of difference between where the bullet's
going to hit. A longer sight radius, you got the
you've got a little room for air if you will,
So you know you can get you can get a
gun that's so tiny. I've got you know, I've got some.
(11:44):
I've got a really tiny Sea Camp Pre eighty. It
doesn't even have sights on it. They didn't even pretend.
They didn't even pretend with that, they're like, this is
a pointed from you know, five seven feet away, pointed
in the right direction, and that a rip. You know,
I can still hit the head on a silhouette target
at five yards with it just pointing it. But it's not.
(12:08):
But it's tiny, and it's very easy to conceal and
an it in your pocket in the whole.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
True, you wouldn't want to learn I got one of
those in thirty two. Yes, like you're three eighty and
you would not want to teach someone to shoot with that.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
So is that is very much a professional gun.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Law enforcement are all given the same.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Most agencies do. Most agencies they're going to issue full
size or at very least a compact model four inch barrel,
five inch barrel, four to five inch low barrel is
a duty sized gun, and modern nine millimeter is going
to be fifteen to eighteen round magazine capacity. And yeah,
(12:49):
what here's the thing. Glock owns about seventy percent of
the law enforcement market across the country, seventy percent of
the cops in the country roughly. In this number varies
from year to year. Clock has had sixty plus percent
of the law enforcement market since the early nineties. Okay,
there are glocks are but ugly, there is nothing. There
(13:12):
is nothing handsome, cool, uh pretty uh design wise, ergonomically,
there's nothing pretty about a clock. It's probably also the
same pistol, the only pistol that you could take out
of that case. Load it, tie it to the bumper
of your truck, pull it down there to the range.
It's gonna work when you get there. That that's how durable.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
It's the it's the Chevrolet of pistols.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
That just or it's the for you show me a
nineteen eleven and that looks aft, it's not.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Those are those are cadillacts right there. But the problem
with the nineteen eleven so I mean, like JD said.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Block could say it's the model t it is the model.
It's the same time frame.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeh, but it's it's a hot ride and the ones
you buy now are a hot ride version of the
little fucking But the thing is is when they started taking.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
The old World War one, World War.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Two era nineteen eleven, so you could take and you
could shake them and they a rattle. I mean you
know they'd almost you had to fail always slide was
gonna come off the dead gun thing. Well you could.
You could throw it in the mud and you're shooting
ball ammo, just military ball ammo. You know, full metal jacket,
and you could throw it in the mud and pick
it up and it would work. I mean, it was
designed to work in a battle. But the thing was
(14:27):
is they weren't known for being the most accurate pistol.
So they started accurizing, okay, and so they would start
squeezing the slides down to make this, you know, the
rails fit tighter. And then they started machining them with
tighter tolerances, and you fine tune these things. So with
the proper ammunition and with the proper magazine, and with
(14:48):
the proper lubrication, and with the proper skill set, those
things were tack drivers, and they were very very accurate,
and their beautiful guns, their works of art. However, throw
them in the dirt. You get a little bit of
grid in them, you put the wrong magazine.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
In it, you get two boxes of bullets through it.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And with our planting and then you put get the
wrong kind of ammo, You get the you don't hold
it just right, anything wrong, any dirt, grime, anything that
will slow that down. If you drag your thumb, your
support side thumb along the side of that slide just
a little bit, just enough to slow that slide down
a little bit. Shooting that forty five ACP round where
(15:26):
it's you know, it's not it's a subsonic round. By
its very nature, it's not doesn't have the energy, and
then all of a sudden it doesn't work. And we
used to when we we had nineteen elevens on the
swat team years ago, when the agency was going from
whatever we wanted to carry to carrying the what was
(15:46):
that gun you hated, hk USP forty five, the USP
with the limb trigger in it. But the one thing
I will say for that, And then we went to glocks.
And when we would go quite with the rest of
the agency, all everybody else in the agency were shooting
find no malfunctions. The white guys with the nineteen elevens
(16:08):
man we could clear malfunction and a heartbeat, tap right go,
tap right go, because we had to. And that was
shooting kimber Stainless Classic twos, which were a good gun
if you run them just right. But there again you
have to have the right magazine. We found at Chip McCormick.
Power mags have the rocket wire springs in them. Work
well shooting ball amo they work well, but when shooting
(16:30):
duty rounds, the what we're carrying the gold dot hall
of points two thirty grain in those man, you know
it did just it just they didn't run like they
should anything. You have to find them.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Take your beautiful, your beautiful, custom really expensive nineteen eleven
and you wear that to show your friends. Put your
glock in your whole street if you feel like you
got to show it to your enemies.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Listen, I got out. I have a drawer full of
nineteen elevens in the house and I love them. But
I'm carrying a forty eight right now for a reason,
because I know, now, if I took my glock out
of my hoster right now and I walk into the
room and I clear the gun and I take it apart,
you're gonna go where'd all the lint come from? And
I will every every couple of weeks, I'll take that
(17:19):
thing and I'll wipe it down and put a little
old just make sure that it's good, doesn't have too
much on It takes five drops of all the clock.
So you don't want too much on there. But I
carry it every single day everywhere I go. And so, yeah,
it picks up, it picks something lin like a belly button.
I mean, it is just gone. It's it's there.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I take mine once a week to the to the
air gun back there and blow the blow the junk
out of it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And if you do that with a nineteen eleven. So
if you are a nineteen eleven fan, which I am,
I'm an advocate for owning them, just not carrying them
every day unless you are going to clean it weekly.
You're gonna take every week that like l like clockwork.
You're gonna disassemble that thing and you're gonna clean it
correctly and kad it correctly. And then you're gonna make
sure that anytime you get out in the weather, you
(18:04):
get off a tractor, you you shoot it, shoot it
anything at all that you make sure that thing gets clean.
If that, if that's your lifestyle, so be it. Bless
your heart, you go ahead and carry one. And if
you're going to open carry, man, that's a cool gun.
If you're going open carry, you want people to you're
gonna wear it for all the world to see. That's
a cool looking one. I still want to get my
(18:26):
cowboy rig and put my I thought about it this morning.
I went I was in the closet this morning to
get our cowboy rigs and go to lunch. One day,
I looked.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Up my my, my gun leather is sitting up on
top of the safe, and I just about broke out
one of them bright stainless pearl or ivory grip yeah
makers and threw in there.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
It's me again. I grew mine. I couldn't wear it
no more. And I'm like, man, I'm to have all
this leather, but I'm back down to a thirty four
itch waist from thirty eight, and so yeah, I can
wear mine again.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I almost threw mine on this morning to come to work.
So yeah, I was like, yeah, the boys. If I
didn't think the boys would have just brutalized me when
I got here.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Everywhere and we need to work at that one day. Well,
we never coordinate shirts, but we'll coordinate gun gear. One day.
You bring yours in, I'll wear mine in, and what
the h They'll be ragging you because you always get
here and I'll come walking in later with mine on
I'm talking about man, nice rig guy. We have a
(19:29):
saying when we wear the same shirt that includes the
curse word for butthole. Nice shirt, nice shirt. But oh man,
oh this opens up so many possibilities, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
And Paul or Paul and I started this morning with
we had sold they'll, they'll. Bessie had gotten a twenty
gauge shotgun to shoot plays with from us. Right. Uh.
He goes down the range and he's the first box.
He shoots the shelves through it. We're twelve eight or
gauge high brass, higher higher brass. They weren't the full
full magnum twenty gauge, but they were higher velocity whatever
(20:07):
else were gun work fine. He had also bought a
box of shells from it really doesn't matter. He didn't
buy them from here, but he bought some really low velocity,
low charge weight, you know, way less powerful shells and
to go shoot clays with because it said clays on
the box. It said boarding clays or skied or whatever
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on the box with a brand new semi automatic shotgun.
And he calls me up and said, my gun's not working.
It shot fine the first time I shot it. It
ain't shooting now. I said, did you change shells. First
question I asked, did you change shels? Uh? Yeah, there
is your problem, especially on a new semi automatic shotgun
in the in today's world with the because you're either
(20:51):
going to have a gas operated gun for the most part,
if it's sem automatic, it's either gonna be gas operated
or it's going to be a nursia driven. That's a
system that Banelli worked out, and it's a good system
they all require with the inertia guns because they've got
two different springs in there that you're having to wear
in parts, and they're it's going to take a little
bit of time to break in. You know. It's kind
(21:13):
of like anything mechanical may not work quite as good
when it's brand new. Car engines used to have a
long or substantial break in period where you drove it
for a couple thousand miles and change the oil immediately
because it's shaving. The reason you had to do that
is because that car engine was literally shaving off little
pieces of metal. So you wanted to run the outboard motors.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yep, same thing.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You run it a little while fifty hours whatever, thirty
hours of runtime twelve and whatever the manufacturer says, and
then you change the oil because it's got particulate metal
in the oil. Well, that gun's doing the same thing.
It's it works shotguns. Some automatic shotguns work a lot
like a single piston car engine does, So you're kind
of breaking in all that stuff. So don't give up
(21:56):
on a gun if it's malfunctioning every now and then.
On some automatic, especially a shotgun, especially if it's new,
And pay attention to the load you're shooting, because shotgun
shells can go everything from really really mild light loads
to really really heavy payload at high velocity. There's a big,
big difference from one load to the other in shotguns,
(22:17):
and it takes some time to educate yourself as to
what you're operating, like.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
A pair of boots or anything else. Yeah, even shooting
an accurate rifle, if you break in the barrel correctly,
it'll shoot more accurately.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I mean for a longer period of time.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
People don't buy new stuff think it's going to be
just right day one.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, sometimes it takes a little bit of love on
the front end.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
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you had a question going into the break about breaking
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in of the guns.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, JDS talked about how you break in a car
engine when you're break any change of oil or outward
mote or whatever. Well, does the same thing with the gun?
Do you really break it apart after you've done a
certain amount of shelves? I need doing.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
So here's here's a thing. Here's something that most gun
owners do not do. And just about every owners manual
of every gun I've ever seen says to do before
you ever shoot it the first time, clean it. Most
people do not do that. So I see people literally
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come in here and buy a gun from the shop
and go straight down there to the range to shoot it.
So a lot of manufacturers will put glock does this.
They put a break in lubricant, a special lubricant on
the slide, so in one of the contact points they
put some anti seas, just like you would put on
a spark plug in an engine, so that it helps
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to break it in.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You see, you see it's got copper color.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Copper color break in grease on the block. Other companies
do this too, But just about every company and the
owners man will say clean before you shoot it the
first time. And somebody's like, brand new, why don't I
got to clean it? For the well, you have manufacturing giblets,
I call them. You'll have little pieces when they manufacture it.
When they're cutting the rifling in the barrel, or when
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they're machining the chamber, or when they're machining the bolt,
or they're doing all this machine work, they don't take
the time at most manufacturers to go back and make
sure that that gun is thoroughly clean and properly lubricated lubricated.
A lot of gun companies will put a sticky type
lubrication or protectant on there because they have no idea
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when they manufacture that gun and they put it in
the box, how long is it going to sit in
that box and where is it going to sit in
that box before that dealer takes it off the shelf
and hands it over to you after you've done your
paperwork and you're out the door. So they'll put a back.
In the day, the military used to put stuff called
cosmoline on their military rifles. They would build, the manufacturer
would build a rifle, they'd test the rifle. They make
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sure everything's right on it. They would code it in.
This stuff called cosmoline. It is a mixture of a
petroleum product and wax. It's the nastiest stuff on the planet. Stinks, sticky, gooey,
wax they would coat the military guns. Because they didn't,
They're gonna pack them on a pack them in a
box and ship them on a crate on a ship
to go to the war wherever they're at. So modern
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manufacturers put stuff like that on their guns to protect
the finish before it gets sold them. So you need
to clean all that manufacturing protectant or whatever or manufacturing
giblets out of the gun. And I've seen guns that
would not chamber a round that were brand spanking new,
and you could not put a rifle round or a
pistol round in the chamber. And you look in there
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and you can see the little glittery speckles of manufacturing
leftover stuff in there, and it just simply needed to
be cleaned. And so that's something that a lot of
people do on.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Know, cleaning guns is important. I had I had a
rifle the other day that someone wanted me to make
sure it would shoot safe. It had some mechanical issues,
barrel issues and had to have the end of the
barrel cut off and recrowned. And I just, Charlotte, I
want you to make sure this thing's safe to shoot.
I've got a box of two seventy and went out
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to my farm and put around in it. And I
just got as far away from the barrel as I
could and full of the trigger off my shooting bench
and it didn't blow up. So okay, that's how that's
how I know it was safe to shoot. I don't
have a metallurgic, I don't have any kind of X
rays or anything around here. We just have to go
do it. And then, well, and I had cleaned before
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I fired it, I went ahead. And because he'd had
the barrel refinished and the stock refinished, and it was
a beautiful old rifle and with an old scope on it,
I had some sentimental value. And I said, well, let
me clean the barrel first, because I don't want to
and rust came out of the barrel. I mean it literally.
I was cleaning rust out. I was taking my drill
bit brass cleaning rod, running a brush through there, trying
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to get that stuff out. Cleaned the barrel enough to
shoot it fired the first time I shot, I couldn't
get I couldn't get the bras casing out because it
had swollen up and there was corrosion in the boar.
So now once I tapped it out. I went back
in with a forty five caliber Bron's bristl board brush
and I honed it out smooth so it would do
that in the future. But you could see the corrosion
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edinburg once I got it all out. Now it's shoes,
but the groups big as you fiss not big, not
big as your thumb, which it should be. He's still
hunt with it. But because it sat so long without
being properly lucated and protected by gun. Yeah, and that's
what happens is they do great. So if you don't
take care of your stuff, we'll be right now.
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Speaker 3 (29:41):
Have you been seeing any teal up on leak.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I've been seeing a few, not a bunch. But I
think with this whether we're having coming in with his
front coming in, it's going to be in the Milow
sixties this week coming up, it's going to be beautiful.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Hey, I heard a little bit of shooting this week
this past week on the Lonely Ammonia, but I saw
I was coming to work this morning, and then I
came the the toll Road parkway across the plantation up
there north of town, and one of the one of
the little almost dry wet weather ponds or what do
you call them, what runoff ponds on the side of
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the road. I had a look at my pash pond. Yeah,
retention pond, that's what I was looking for. Had about
six inches of water in it, and there was about
twenty blue wing teal out there in that thing.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
We're looking for a puddle. There ain't been one for
a while. They've been flying around for three weeks looking
for a puddle.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
We ain't had no rain. Well, my gosh, thank goodness,
we got up there.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah the Mariana. That's I got hay fields over there.
They're crispy. Yeah, and you want some crunchy hay. And
now now we got some rain on it.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Planted that l I planted food plots the weekend Labor
Day weekend, so I ain't had a drop of rain
till last night. In the middle of the night, I
noticed my cameras, I've got a little bit of rain
last night. I was sure, glads it. I hope I
hadn't lost. I hope I ain't got to replant my
food plots. Now that's late in the game.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
But as long as it didn't germinate to start with.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Well, that's kind of what I'm worried about, Charles. I
just you know, I mean, it was wet, the ground
was moist when I put the seed down because it
had just rained, and it was supposed to rain three
days after I planted. It just never happened. So we'll see,
maybe maybe something, something green will come up.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So for the deersty, you got, you know how in
the south, you got, well, how much should it rain? Well,
it's settled to dust, you know. Yeah, And then if
you're farming, it's like, well, you know, it was a
you know, and all ride down the road like this morning,
I'm looking at well, got in the driveway. It settled
to dust. I don't know how much. I don't see
any puddles. There ain't no puddles in the ditch. Okay,
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so that's another standard as well, there's puddles in the ditch.
Now I look at the dirt road, and the dirt
roads muddy. So I know that we got enough. Yeah,
we got a little bit of rain now. And now
we got a new standard at my house because they
came down seventy three and they and they cut all
these little rumple strips in the road. You know where
right the center line, the center line's got rumple strips
in it. There are about three quarters of an inch deep,
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and then along the edge of the road. So if
it rains a little bit, you can get some in
the edge, but that crown of the road, there's nothing
in those. But there was enough to filled up the
ridges in the middle of the road. And so now
we got we gotta go a little bit. And so yeah,
there's but there's still no puddles in the ditch. So
it didn't rain that four inches. Yeah, that's uh. And
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it's now I have a gate. My rain gauge is
a swimming pool. I look out back and I see
how high is the water in swimming pool. I did
notice a little bit of a difference this morning. When
I walked out that was raining. I said, well, that's
that's good. That's good.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I'm just ready as happy it's not gonna be a
ninety five. Yeah, there is nothing above in the fort
the extended forecast. I looked at today there is nothing
above eighty something because we're not gonna get no nineties
for days. I mean it's over now, No, it's absolutely
not over. H middle of October I'll say, yep, probably over.
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But uh, I don't know. Weather's been. Yeah, weather's weird.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm waiting for the snakes quick crawling so I can
go so some birds out in the bird dog go
hunt some quail. But I don't want her to get
snake bit and I don't want to step on wanting
big old this big old snake start moving around towards
the end of the year and scary.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I don't go in the woods this time of year
without snake boots on. I just I don't know. I
don't want to have to watch every step I put down.
And I'm usually if I'm in the woods, I'm paying
attention to something else. I'm wearing snake boots this time
of year.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Or dogs don't want them to get bit if they
don't mess with a snake, you know, but if they
get to.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
But most bird dogs that hadn't been hadn't gone through
snake avoid it's training, will point a rattlesnake.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
To you mine, don't she she for summer and she's
never been through it, but she doesn't. She doesn't like
to do anything. She will run right past the snake
and keep on going, don't pay no mind to it.
And she will turn to look at it, but she
don't get close to it. Rusty, on the other hand,
I don't know what that bipole the dog does. He
on one hand, he see if I'm around, he sees it,
he'll run away from it because he because he knows that,
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you know, he'll recognizes that that shot caller got him
during snake avoidance training. But if he thinks I ain't around,
he will go kill it. I mean, because it's like
daddy ain't here. I can do what I want. Because
I mean, I thought he'd been through all the snake
avoidance training that we could get him through. And I'm
out there one day on the loader doing some work,
moving some trees and stuff around. I look over there
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and he's running around with a copper head in his
mouth that he's done killed. I'm like, you idiot, what
are you doing. No, didn't get him that day. He's
every now and then had can't get one without getting hurt.
But that that but he's got to have it. He
has to have built up resistance. As many times he
been snake, we's had he's had the anti venom like
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four times. That stuff's a grand a shot. And I
actually had it, had to have it twice one time.
That's why I carry petty insurance on him, just just
for snake bites. The But now we've got the we've
got the shot callers and stuff, the GPS shot callers
on him, and so he what we used the spot on,
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which is the expensive one. But man, those things work
and he stays in the yard. I can take the
collar off of him. He runs around a little more free,
but he won't go past that point out there. He's
got like twenty something makers. He can run. But if
you get on a Cyba side and you're gonna go
for a ride, he'll get out there to it. He'll
sit there and look at you. And if you say,
come on, boy, you don't have a collar on, come on,
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he'll run back at the house. If you put him
on the Syba side and drive past that point and
you have to get out of sight of it, you
have to get over the hill and then and then
like get out there, he won't still won't get off
the cyber side until until you say I think I
saw a deer. And if you say the word deer,
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he bails off that cybea side and runs around looking
and sniffing, and he's on then. I mean, he's just
he's just this quirky dog that, uh I couldn't I
couldn't have I couldn't have designed a butter dog. He
just until he wants to get in my lap at night,
and then he will will not take no for an
answer and he uses high Is it the dog? You
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know all that? How do dogs develop those expressions? You know?
Dogs can Dogs can look at you in ways that
just cut to your soul and they know how to
do all. And I don't know if do we groom
that into them and let by trial and error? Did
God just program them with all the fields involved? I mean,
it's like I really want one of those French fries
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and I'm going to make you feel yeah, that's its
bad if you don't give me one.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
And skarr last night I said you want to go fishing?
One morning this morning I got up. He's just sitting there,
just calmly waiting.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Open the door.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
He's straight ready to go, go to the business, straight
to the boat.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
So you want fishing this morning before you came see us.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yes, sir, trying to see if now I want to
see everyone in this weather if they had buy because
I know where some biggins are.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
How cool is that that you just get up, walk outside,
walk down to your get on your boat, go fishing,
and then come do something else.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yes, there, it was a blessing. But the fish wasn't
baking this morning. You would have thought with that cloudy
whether the shatter all on the bottom. Well we'll talk
about the next ove it.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
But is there anything else you'd rather do than go?
Even if they're not biting? What else would you rather
be doing?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Maybe being in my bible?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
But but I didn't.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Weren't you weren't you really in it out there? They? Yeah,
you know in your head you were.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That's right. It was just this cloudy weather. You would
just man, I was thinking the fish would be jumping.
But mister jack Win had always told me that boy
and bask got their own kind of business. I'm like, well,
how did I learn that? He said, you better spend
a lot of time on that lake. You think they'd
be biting. You would see activity.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Their days huntings the same way. I mean, sitting in
the tree standing old.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
But i'd see the deer. At four o'clock this morning
out the acorns had started to falling around the ar.
I don't know if that's because we had no rain
or if that's just that time. You know what I mean,
is it? I was beginning to wonder, like, is it
from the no rain or just you know, but I'm
seeing them coming out and eating acorns early. They were
out early, about four point thirty, and I saw a
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squirrel run across the power line. In the backyard. We
have a I guess it's a pear tree. The thing
had a big old pair running.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I was looking at ways more than a squirrel. Yeah, funny,
those little sand hill pairs. They love them, so they'll
start making some nest right now. I wanted them squirrels.
That's that'll start in the next month.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Want it probably?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I don't know. I don't keep up with that.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I'll sit over there and scold you the whole time
you're in a tree stand they will, Yeah, they will
talk to you and everybody. You'll think of deers walking
up missus squirrel moving around in the leaves when they're dry.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I'm sure y'all squirrel hunt it on that much cold river.
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, I have you didn't trump?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, well, the only time I ever got over to
the river was when we went fishing. But i ain't
squirreling over there. I'm from a different part of county.
We we were over there, we had farming today, and
as when we went over there, it's because we'd load
up and go get on the river as a kid. Well,
now it's more to ride around and drink a beer.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
No that, Yeah, that's a big deal down there.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
People do that, yes, sir, drink beer.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Well, and the squirrel they do that down there.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Oh yeah, that that river swamp where me and you
were fishing a couple of weeks ago. That's that's a
big deal. They go every saying bar I have people
camped on it waiting on squirrel season. Open up and
have a big time doing it too. It's fun. I
enjoyed it, to be right.
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Speaker 3 (40:42):
Back, So how long do you think it's going to
be today? We're recording the show on Friday, the twenty six,
which is officially the first day of open caerry being
legal in Florida. Officially. Well, god have been, it's kind
of been so.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
All all the people going, well, you have to wait
till you know whatever, wasn't nobody going to that?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I think it will be before somebody slings or ar
and goes to Walmart.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I'd be surprised somebody hadn't already done it. Somebody wanting
to prove a point is out. They're doing it right now,
y'all stop. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. I mean
that it's yes, it's your right. It's also a sue.
Your right to do silly stuff, say stupid stuff, walk around,
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tell flat out ball face lies, and you do all
kinds of stuff. And yes, you're right to do it,
but that doesn't mean you have to. And it's not
in good taste. And all you're doing when you go
rub everybody's nose in it is to push people in
the middle to the left on this issue. Exactly, Yes
you can, but should you Well, all you're doing is
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taking people that would normally vote in your favor and
swing your way on this issue, and you're pushing them
in the other direction. And that's not a matter of
that's not a matter of Okay, So if you work
for somebody and you know you can tell your boss
to kiss your rear in and mean it, and you
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know they can't fire you because you got a union.
But is it a good idea to do that? Is
it really going to benefit your career and your forward
movement and your pay next time comes time for a pay?
Is that really a good idea? So when you depend
on these people in the middle to be on our
side of things, and then you're gonna go rub their
nose and so.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Don't do stupid things that you're gonnare them to go
the other way.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Now you're gonna freak out there.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
So yeah, open carriers, you can carry off. You said,
an AR fifteen r.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Rifle, shotgun, pistol, you can.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
You can walk now. If you want to do something
strictly for political gain, you want to go up and
do something in front of the legislature or something that
you can do now, and you want to protest it,
I don't know what you're protesting. We want, we do need,
we do need the legislatures right now. What we need
is a legislature to go clean up the laws in
our favor, okay, because.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
There's going to be have to be substantial changes to
the laws there as they are currently.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
They have to rewrite some laws in order to now
you can't be arrested for open carry right now, but
they can go back and they could increase the number
of places that you can't open carry a carry if concealed,
fire them if they wanted to. Legislature can go in
now because those safe places that they've defined, you know,
meetings and schools and things, they can be they could
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expand that and they could limit us from carrying in
other places that go, oh, well, you know you have
to have express permission from private property owners in order
to carry instead of it being implied. And then they
can tell you.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
That I can back. I can say that those signs that
say don't bring your gun in here actually have power
behind them because.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
And then we arrest. Some states have that absolutely.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
If they got it in Texas, if they've got a
sign posted on their door of their store and it's
a public it's a store that's open to the public,
and there's a sign on the door that'say is, don't
bring your gun in here, and you do, you can
go to jail. In Florida, that store owner can only
ask you to leave. There's it's it's not an it's
not an enforceable right.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
So we've been saying all this time, if we pass
if we allow open carrier, normally if we passed open
CAREA but now open carry is the law of the
land in Florida. We've said, if open carry, it would
be like all the other states where there's open carry,
there's not any rat and you're not going to see
people care open carrying everywhere. Everywhere you go. You'll see
it from time to time, and we will, I mean,
we might do it once in a while just for
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the heck of it, but it's not it's not gonna
be something that everybody's just gonna every street corner, something's
gonna have a gun on. There will be some people
that do. But if you go out now and so
I'm gonna do it to prove a point, and I'm
gonna rub everybody's nose in it, and I'm gonna I'm
gonna jump. That's not how conservatives act. We don't jump
up and down when we win a battle. We go,
we go thank you Lord. This is this is the
(44:55):
right thing for us to do. They killed Charlie Kirk
right exactly. Although emotionally I would love to see us
do some crazy stuff. But logically, we can't do that.
It's not the right thing to do. Where's the riots
right now? I promise you if that she had been
on the other foot, they would be burning down neighborhoods and.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
They just went after those That person shot them ice
officers and shot detainees.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yeah, how's that You're gonna go protest ice and shoot
shoot the very people that you don't want them getting
because you're an idiot or can't shoot or something. You know,
it's just that the idiocy of some people.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Did you see the new T shirts we got out
there just we just you know, the gas.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I didn't see. I saw the Christmas ones I didn't seek.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
There's a there's a really good one. There's about gen X.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I said, I'm getting one of those.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah. It says, uh, we're not not anti social, we're
anti idiot.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah. For the people on TikTok that we're calling us boomers, yeah,
I missed it by like two years.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Yeah, the boomers are the is who you see at
all the anti anti king was it no King protests?
So that's the boomers. They're the ones in the walkers
in the wheelchairs. Sorry, that's just who they are. I mean,
and not all boomers are that way, but there's a
there's there's a percentage of them. They were the flower
children and the hippies in the sixties, that's right.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
And those of us who know, like the good boomers,
they called those woodstock boomers degenerates back in the sixties.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
But you would think if you go back and look,
you know, like growing up, I looked at those years
and it seemed like that was the way America was.
Everybody was wearing tied eyed shirts and smoking, weeding and
pretty much now this new generation, but it was not
really the majority of our country. It was it was
a sub segment of our community, kind of like the
(46:58):
far left is now. There's the same type of friend children. Yeah,
so it's you know, they say things skip a generation.
A lot of times they do because you look at
the cool grandpa and you want to be more like them,
but you know your parents are kind of they're they're square,
and you don't want to be like them.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
You know, you have more people on this left. I mean,
you got a lot of single family.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
You know, you have far lest you have far lest,
far left leaning people than you realize. They get the
vast majority of the press exactly. You see them more often.
I can't. I don't think they. I know, they don't
hold a majority.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
I met a guy the other day who's going to
be running for local office, and he said, well, he said,
my friends, my friends describe me as left of center,
and to me, that's a Democrat. Okay, all right, left
of center tends to be a Democrat. But we agreed
almost everything we talked about, you know, particularly as it
related to firearms and some local politics and stuff. I'm like, yeah,
(47:56):
I mean, if you're describing yourself he's one of my friends,
it call me that. I'm like, well, not on the
issues that I care about. So the thing is is
that most of us in this country can have a conversation.
It's the extremes that don't. That's right, and you know,
but sometimes the extremes drive the conversation. While I didn't
(48:17):
agree with now the people on the far left are
doing stuff, and while they have the emotional response and
they're pulling, but they're dragging their side further to the left,
which is pushing the country further to the right. Perceptually
exactly the way people see it is now that there
are people on the far right of the gun issue,
the people who were going carrying fishing poles and AR
(48:41):
fifteen's down to downtown Tallahassee, because that's what the loss
is in protest of where we are currently. I agree
with them in concepts. I count most all of them
as my friends. I like them. I didn't agree with
that tactic simply because you're pushing people that you count
on for votes. The other way, we didn't get open
(49:01):
carry because of the of the legislation that they voted
for in that case. Okay, And so I think my
point was born out that that type of activity doesn't
necessarily help us by bringing the mainstream over to our side,
but that that's the same organization that then sued and
got us this. I mean, they're the ones that backed
(49:23):
this person that got this case. So I applaud that effort.
They did a fantastic job.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
There.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
There's good tactics and there's bad tactics. And just because
I disagree with the particular tactic doesn't mean I don't
agree with you, with you or your organization which I'm
a member of, or anything else. I just don't I
don't have to agree with what you're doing. I just
see things from a different perspective sometimes, and that's open discourse.
That's how we get along as a country. That's how
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and people on the right tend to disagree with each other.
Is that is that? Hey man, I don't know. That's
a good idea. Y'all have fun with that, have a
good time. People on the left cancel each other and
scream at each other and disown each other and boycott
each other and all that. I mean, you know, hey,
did you see where the Ben and Jerry's co founder
(50:10):
got a left the Unilever organization. You know, they were
anti everything, right wing, anti gun, anti anti anything.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Law enforcement, which is why I don't keep up with
Ben and Jerry.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
And so I wouldn't buy Ben and Jerry's because one
of the one that they were donating all this money
to to other causes. And we go in the grocery store,
I'm like, you know, y'all can't have that ice cream?
And and they but they were still part of the
organization and Unilever owns the owns it. Now they wanted
to spend Ben and Jerry's back off again because they
wanted to be able to have their political leanings, and
(50:42):
Unilever says no, and you can't do that, and so
one of them finally, I guess retired. He ain't hurting
from money, I'm sure, but uh, but he took it.
He packed his stuff and left. I still ain't buying
their ice cream, but because.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
I don't like their ice cream anyway. Blue Paul, you've
been catching any fish we ain't got, but it just
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yes, they've been biting this for this one coming up.
It's gonna be it's gonna be nice. This morning was
the slow, but it's coming. It's gonna be very good.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
It's that time of year. Yes, I'm ready for it. Yep,
I think uh, I think me and you need to
make another trip down the river. Well, let's do it,
all right, buddy, Let's see y'all next week.
Welcome to the Talent Outdoor Show. I'm Charlie, I'm j D.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Captain Paul Tar, and I'm Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
We have a noticeable absence in the room today.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We do about time the g rated show.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, thank god, I can get some words in there.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's a g rated show. So we're kids in.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We're missing Fred today. He had a wedding this time.
I think it's something a wedding that wasn't a funeral
because he wouldn't. He didn't.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
He was morning climbing up trees and been mourning for
his weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, Fred going, Yeah, Fred going to a wedding. There's
gonna be some drinking going on because.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Any excuse, imagine imagine our excuse, imagine hiring Fred to
sing at the wedding.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
They could have been that.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I would go to that.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm just would well if if Yeah, Yeah, he's got
he has this little book of songs that with his
own lyrics and they are definitely definitely interesting. You know,
that's a man that is an entertaining fella right there.
He's a he's something else. He is something else, that
(01:13):
is for sure. Oh man, that he uh so, yeah,
we were talking now, I was hauling tail trying to
get here today. I overslept. I have not had a
good night's sleep better part a week. I just wake
up the middle of the night. My mind's going somewhere else.
I'm one of those guy's when my brain just goes
and goes and goes, and I can't go back to sleep,
and I get on my phone and next thing you know,
(01:35):
I hear my wife's alarm go off. It's like, okay,
I can get some sleep now. And you know, I
just it's it's and for summer. And last night, so
the Friday, the Jackie Canty Shiff's, I was having this,
having a golf tournament to benefit the Florida Sheriff's Youth
Wrench and I missed. I slept late, and I missed
(01:57):
the perfect opportunity. I wanted to go out there because
don I said, yeah, I said, what time is the thing?
I want to go out there and say, hey, a
couple of people. And she goes, ah, I said this time,
And she goes, well, the ball drop is it so
and so? And I said, okay, so explain that to me.
She goes, well, the helicopter's gonna fly over. I'm gonna
drop a bunch of golf balls and there numbered in
the one closest to the hole, one the eighteenth green
or whatever, and da da da da dam. She said,
(02:19):
I've got to go out there and sell balls. And
I'm like, and I said, so, so, what time do
I get to come out there and go? Hey, Sheriff.
I want to get here. I heard you your balls
are dropping today. I wanted to be here. And I
missed the perfect opportunity to get there because I overslept.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Because you're laid up all night thinking about that joke.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
No, because no, because I was. I was. I was
working on the golf cart that my wife was going
to take out there, one of the old ones from
the Rains that I bought and I gave to put
it at at Inn's house and to something and I
had to clean all the battery terminals and it wouldn't work.
It rode from her house up to the house put
on the charge or something going on with it. I
don't know what's wrong with it. And I was it
was one o'clock in the morning. I'm still getting that
(03:04):
thing fixed, and had it fixed and then it broke
this morning, and uh, anyway, I missed that chance, and
I kicking myself for it because that was a perfect
opportunity for me to Now. The funny thing is is
last night I told my wife I'm gonna go I'm
gonna go do this joke. I want go out there
just to say that. And she don't know nobody to
(03:26):
tell him because I might do it next year. And
and I said, yeah, I'm gonna go by there and
I'm gonna say so and so, and she looked at
me and went, well, yeah, they're dropping the balls at
like eight thirty or eight o'clock. I went, none of this,
you missed a joke, and she goes, huh. And I'm like,
see every man listening to this show news the old
thing about you.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Know, yes we know, yeah, we know. And but she
didn't get it. She didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
She didn't get it.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They would have a lot to say about it.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I just got through telling people this was a g
rated gonna be a g rated show.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
There's nothing there you rated about it. There's no there's
no sexual in you in tho in that it's simply
an age related thing that happens in the ink of
adolescent males. As you know. Okay, he's he ain't old
enough to you know, you know the old sayings and stuff. Yes,
you don't grow up on a farm anyway, Yes, we
(04:22):
know so.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Anyhow so and I walked in and I called and
I texted you, and I'm like, man, I'm running thirty
minutes late. It ended up being like fifteen minutes late.
And I walked in the door and I hustled by coach.
I see JD at the counter and I heard him
saying something by the gun, and I walked in the
studio and went money, all.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Here on you. I got in a hurry for we
was waiting on you.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I was getting educated about.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Something. Clocks and so there was an encounter. And that's
what I was interesting to me in What started this
topic of conversation, which nobody knows what it was, because
I've gone five different directions so far since we started
the show, was somebody walked in and wanted to buy
a firearm for their wife, and I want a revolver,
(05:09):
and I heard JD say things. We parted over and
over and over again over the years. As we firmly
believe it, we just picked the hardest gun in the
case to shoot and.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
They specifically wanted a lightweight thirty eight snub nosed revolver.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Right, I heard, and I remember saying why, and then
I walked on out the room because I knew the
conversation that was about to ensue. And I came back
a little while ago, right before this, we started recording
the show, and you got every semi automatic mid size
on the case out there, going over all the different things,
and they are now firmly on the route to buy
(05:43):
exactly what they should be buying.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
She had had some improper instruction at some point in
time in my life, because the next question I asked
was have you ever had any professional professional training And
the answer was no, But I had training from my
brother in law, my whoever law cousins, brothers, uncle's cousin.
(06:06):
And I said, and I get bet. They showed you
to rack the slide like this, and she said, uh huh.
I said, well, that's why you can't rack the slide,
So let me show you this. I showed her the
correct way, and she's like, oh, well that's easy, yes, ma'am,
it is once you learned the technique, I said, you know,
and then I can tell you why you're why you're
missing because you were you know, trigger control. So we
(06:28):
just talked through some of that and basically taught them
how to buying a gun today right now until they go,
until they go get some training with somebody and maybe
go rent some different guns or whatever else. So I
turned down a gun sale. I've basically talked them out
of a gun sale because I wanted them to get
the right thing and.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Not to guarantee they will buy that firearm here.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, that's that's the value that you have here. I mean,
this is not Walmart. You come into here. That's like
I want to learn how to shoot a.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Clock a handgun?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You never used them, don't have no don't have no
experience with them. Got shot revolvers? Done that? Well one
time I used it cut me. I'm like, why would
I use a gun like that? Because I wasn't talk right?
So was that what I asked you? J Would you
be willing? So will take the time show me properly?
How to you know?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Auto cuts? You?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
That slight?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
So you got slide bite.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, that's just the reason I can't shoot those old
diamond back three eighties. J D and I both lin
that would a crease across the top of our hand
with those things.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Little bitty guns.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, yeah, but if you shoot with your thumb over
behind the grip, your support side, thumb behind the grip,
and a lot of people come here and do that
and they slice their thumb every.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
What's the first thing I said? Both them's on the
same side.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I heard you say that, So that young man, what
was it I was talking to, very knowledgeable, extremely knowledgeable.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
There is gun for me for slide bite and there
I cannot. I cannot shoot a Walter PPK. I can.
I could not be James Bond because having meaty, meaty
hands that thing. It don't matter how I hold it.
I griped that if I grip that gun and it's
gonna leave train tracks on mare.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
They're heavy for little gun.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, and there there's I see people want to have
those and they're cool guns to look at, and yeah,
this is James Bond gun and whatever else. But they
just they've got a bunch of drawbacks to.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Them, a lot of it's big demand for that new
Smith and Wesson bodyguard two point.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Oh oh my goodness, that's that is Yeah, we were
I'm I feel like I'm buying five of those every
other day because we go, we're going.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And our holster sales on our website, which is you know,
we've mad five holds. Just that gum wallet Holsters has
reinvigorated a whole wallet holster market, a little pocket three
eighty market. And how many rounds is that thing hold with.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
The big magazine holds twelve plus one in the chamber
and then the small magazine, the flush fit magazine is
ten plus one.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Wow, that's a lot for the little pocket pistol.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
For a tiny, tiny little gun that essentially fits in
the same holster that the original bodyguard fits in.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, and so for something to keep in your pocket.
And that's there there again. Every now and then somebody
come along and they're always redesigning these pistols, tweaking it
and tweaking it, tweaking. Every once in a while, I
want to just hit the.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Rigor did it first with the Max? They he'll ce
pre max the double stack. Well, they widened the grip
a little bit. They did make it a little bit thicker. This,
this Smith and Wesson is just slim and slender, and
the grips long enough to where even somebody with big
hands can get a full purchase on the grip, which
is important, and it's hues they shoot great. Smith and
(09:39):
Wesson also redesigned the shield called the Shield X and
I really like it too. It's just a bigger than
I mile bear.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
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So we were discussing pistol size versus hand size, and
you know anyway.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, little guns are harder to shoot for everybody. There's
smaller guns with a smaller grip if it doesn't matter
if you've got little hands, big hands where guns with
a less to hold on to are more difficult to shoot.
Guns with a shorter sight radius, the distance between the
front side and the rear sight are more difficult to
shoot than guns with a longer sight radius because you
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have less room for movement and on a short a
little bit of movement with a short sight radius is dramatic.
Is a dramatic amount of difference between where the bullet's
going to hit. A longer sight radius, you got the
you've got a little room for air if you will,
So you know you can get you can get a
gun that's so tiny. I've got you know, I've got some.
(11:44):
I've got a really tiny Sea Camp Pre eighty. It
doesn't even have sights on it. They didn't even pretend.
They didn't even pretend with that, they're like, this is
a pointed from you know, five seven feet away, pointed
in the right direction, and that a rip. You know,
I can still hit the head on a silhouette target
at five yards with it just pointing it. But it's not.
(12:08):
But it's tiny, and it's very easy to conceal and
an it in your pocket in the whole.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
True, you wouldn't want to learn I got one of
those in thirty two. Yes, like you're three eighty and
you would not want to teach someone to shoot with that.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
So is that is very much a professional gun.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Law enforcement are all given the same.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Most agencies do. Most agencies they're going to issue full
size or at very least a compact model four inch barrel,
five inch barrel, four to five inch low barrel is
a duty sized gun, and modern nine millimeter is going
to be fifteen to eighteen round magazine capacity. And yeah,
(12:49):
what here's the thing. Glock owns about seventy percent of
the law enforcement market across the country, seventy percent of
the cops in the country roughly. In this number varies
from year to year. Clock has had sixty plus percent
of the law enforcement market since the early nineties. Okay,
there are glocks are but ugly, there is nothing. There
(13:12):
is nothing handsome, cool, uh pretty uh design wise, ergonomically,
there's nothing pretty about a clock. It's probably also the
same pistol, the only pistol that you could take out
of that case. Load it, tie it to the bumper
of your truck, pull it down there to the range.
It's gonna work when you get there. That that's how durable.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
It's the it's the Chevrolet of pistols.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
That just or it's the for you show me a
nineteen eleven and that looks aft, it's not.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Those are those are cadillacts right there. But the problem
with the nineteen eleven so I mean, like JD said.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Block could say it's the model t it is the model.
It's the same time frame.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeh, but it's it's a hot ride and the ones
you buy now are a hot ride version of the
little fucking But the thing is is when they started taking.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
The old World War one, World War.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Two era nineteen eleven, so you could take and you
could shake them and they a rattle. I mean you
know they'd almost you had to fail always slide was
gonna come off the dead gun thing. Well you could.
You could throw it in the mud and you're shooting
ball ammo, just military ball ammo. You know, full metal jacket,
and you could throw it in the mud and pick
it up and it would work. I mean, it was
designed to work in a battle. But the thing was
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is they weren't known for being the most accurate pistol.
So they started accurizing, okay, and so they would start
squeezing the slides down to make this, you know, the
rails fit tighter. And then they started machining them with
tighter tolerances, and you fine tune these things. So with
the proper ammunition and with the proper magazine, and with
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the proper lubrication, and with the proper skill set, those
things were tack drivers, and they were very very accurate,
and their beautiful guns, their works of art. However, throw
them in the dirt. You get a little bit of
grid in them, you put the wrong magazine.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
In it, you get two boxes of bullets through it.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And with our planting and then you put get the
wrong kind of ammo, You get the you don't hold
it just right, anything wrong, any dirt, grime, anything that
will slow that down. If you drag your thumb, your
support side thumb along the side of that slide just
a little bit, just enough to slow that slide down
a little bit. Shooting that forty five ACP round where
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it's you know, it's not it's a subsonic round. By
its very nature, it's not doesn't have the energy, and
then all of a sudden it doesn't work. And we
used to when we we had nineteen elevens on the
swat team years ago, when the agency was going from
whatever we wanted to carry to carrying the what was
(15:46):
that gun you hated, hk USP forty five, the USP
with the limb trigger in it. But the one thing
I will say for that, And then we went to glocks.
And when we would go quite with the rest of
the agency, all everybody else in the agency were shooting
find no malfunctions. The white guys with the nineteen elevens
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man we could clear malfunction and a heartbeat, tap right go,
tap right go, because we had to. And that was
shooting kimber Stainless Classic twos, which were a good gun
if you run them just right. But there again you
have to have the right magazine. We found at Chip McCormick.
Power mags have the rocket wire springs in them. Work
well shooting ball amo they work well, but when shooting
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duty rounds, the what we're carrying the gold dot hall
of points two thirty grain in those man, you know
it did just it just they didn't run like they
should anything. You have to find them.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Take your beautiful, your beautiful, custom really expensive nineteen eleven
and you wear that to show your friends. Put your
glock in your whole street if you feel like you
got to show it to your enemies.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Listen, I got out. I have a drawer full of
nineteen elevens in the house and I love them. But
I'm carrying a forty eight right now for a reason,
because I know, now, if I took my glock out
of my hoster right now and I walk into the
room and I clear the gun and I take it apart,
you're gonna go where'd all the lint come from? And
I will every every couple of weeks, I'll take that
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thing and I'll wipe it down and put a little
old just make sure that it's good, doesn't have too
much on It takes five drops of all the clock.
So you don't want too much on there. But I
carry it every single day everywhere I go. And so, yeah,
it picks up, it picks something lin like a belly button.
I mean, it is just gone. It's it's there.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I take mine once a week to the to the
air gun back there and blow the blow the junk
out of it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And if you do that with a nineteen eleven. So
if you are a nineteen eleven fan, which I am,
I'm an advocate for owning them, just not carrying them
every day unless you are going to clean it weekly.
You're gonna take every week that like l like clockwork.
You're gonna disassemble that thing and you're gonna clean it
correctly and kad it correctly. And then you're gonna make
sure that anytime you get out in the weather, you
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get off a tractor, you you shoot it, shoot it
anything at all that you make sure that thing gets clean.
If that, if that's your lifestyle, so be it. Bless
your heart, you go ahead and carry one. And if
you're going to open carry, man, that's a cool gun.
If you're going open carry, you want people to you're
gonna wear it for all the world to see. That's
a cool looking one. I still want to get my
(18:26):
cowboy rig and put my I thought about it this morning.
I went I was in the closet this morning to
get our cowboy rigs and go to lunch. One day,
I looked.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Up my my, my gun leather is sitting up on
top of the safe, and I just about broke out
one of them bright stainless pearl or ivory grip yeah
makers and threw in there.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
It's me again. I grew mine. I couldn't wear it
no more. And I'm like, man, I'm to have all
this leather, but I'm back down to a thirty four
itch waist from thirty eight, and so yeah, I can
wear mine again.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I almost threw mine on this morning to come to work.
So yeah, I was like, yeah, the boys. If I
didn't think the boys would have just brutalized me when
I got here.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Everywhere and we need to work at that one day. Well,
we never coordinate shirts, but we'll coordinate gun gear. One day.
You bring yours in, I'll wear mine in, and what
the h They'll be ragging you because you always get
here and I'll come walking in later with mine on
I'm talking about man, nice rig guy. We have a
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saying when we wear the same shirt that includes the
curse word for butthole. Nice shirt, nice shirt. But oh man,
oh this opens up so many possibilities, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
And Paul or Paul and I started this morning with
we had sold they'll, they'll. Bessie had gotten a twenty
gauge shotgun to shoot plays with from us. Right. Uh.
He goes down the range and he's the first box.
He shoots the shelves through it. We're twelve eight or
gauge high brass, higher higher brass. They weren't the full
full magnum twenty gauge, but they were higher velocity whatever
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else were gun work fine. He had also bought a
box of shells from it really doesn't matter. He didn't
buy them from here, but he bought some really low velocity,
low charge weight, you know, way less powerful shells and
to go shoot clays with because it said clays on
the box. It said boarding clays or skied or whatever
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on the box with a brand new semi automatic shotgun.
And he calls me up and said, my gun's not working.
It shot fine the first time I shot it. It
ain't shooting now. I said, did you change shells. First
question I asked, did you change shels? Uh? Yeah, there
is your problem, especially on a new semi automatic shotgun
in the in today's world with the because you're either
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going to have a gas operated gun for the most part,
if it's sem automatic, it's either gonna be gas operated
or it's going to be a nursia driven. That's a
system that Banelli worked out, and it's a good system
they all require with the inertia guns because they've got
two different springs in there that you're having to wear
in parts, and they're it's going to take a little
bit of time to break in. You know. It's kind
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of like anything mechanical may not work quite as good
when it's brand new. Car engines used to have a
long or substantial break in period where you drove it
for a couple thousand miles and change the oil immediately
because it's shaving. The reason you had to do that
is because that car engine was literally shaving off little
pieces of metal. So you wanted to run the outboard motors.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yep, same thing.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You run it a little while fifty hours whatever, thirty
hours of runtime twelve and whatever the manufacturer says, and
then you change the oil because it's got particulate metal
in the oil. Well, that gun's doing the same thing.
It's it works shotguns. Some automatic shotguns work a lot
like a single piston car engine does, So you're kind
of breaking in all that stuff. So don't give up
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on a gun if it's malfunctioning every now and then.
On some automatic, especially a shotgun, especially if it's new,
And pay attention to the load you're shooting, because shotgun
shells can go everything from really really mild light loads
to really really heavy payload at high velocity. There's a big,
big difference from one load to the other in shotguns,
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and it takes some time to educate yourself as to
what you're operating, like.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
A pair of boots or anything else. Yeah, even shooting
an accurate rifle, if you break in the barrel correctly,
it'll shoot more accurately.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I mean for a longer period of time.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
People don't buy new stuff think it's going to be
just right day one.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, sometimes it takes a little bit of love on
the front end.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
We'll be right back.
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you had a question going into the break about breaking
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in of the guns.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, JDS talked about how you break in a car
engine when you're break any change of oil or outward
mote or whatever. Well, does the same thing with the gun?
Do you really break it apart after you've done a
certain amount of shelves? I need doing.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
So here's here's a thing. Here's something that most gun
owners do not do. And just about every owners manual
of every gun I've ever seen says to do before
you ever shoot it the first time, clean it. Most
people do not do that. So I see people literally
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come in here and buy a gun from the shop
and go straight down there to the range to shoot it.
So a lot of manufacturers will put glock does this.
They put a break in lubricant, a special lubricant on
the slide, so in one of the contact points they
put some anti seas, just like you would put on
a spark plug in an engine, so that it helps
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to break it in.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You see, you see it's got copper color.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Copper color break in grease on the block. Other companies
do this too, But just about every company and the
owners man will say clean before you shoot it the
first time. And somebody's like, brand new, why don't I
got to clean it? For the well, you have manufacturing giblets,
I call them. You'll have little pieces when they manufacture it.
When they're cutting the rifling in the barrel, or when
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they're machining the chamber, or when they're machining the bolt,
or they're doing all this machine work, they don't take
the time at most manufacturers to go back and make
sure that that gun is thoroughly clean and properly lubricated lubricated.
A lot of gun companies will put a sticky type
lubrication or protectant on there because they have no idea
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when they manufacture that gun and they put it in
the box, how long is it going to sit in
that box and where is it going to sit in
that box before that dealer takes it off the shelf
and hands it over to you after you've done your
paperwork and you're out the door. So they'll put a back.
In the day, the military used to put stuff called
cosmoline on their military rifles. They would build, the manufacturer
would build a rifle, they'd test the rifle. They make
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sure everything's right on it. They would code it in.
This stuff called cosmoline. It is a mixture of a
petroleum product and wax. It's the nastiest stuff on the planet. Stinks, sticky, gooey,
wax they would coat the military guns. Because they didn't,
They're gonna pack them on a pack them in a
box and ship them on a crate on a ship
to go to the war wherever they're at. So modern
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manufacturers put stuff like that on their guns to protect
the finish before it gets sold them. So you need
to clean all that manufacturing protectant or whatever or manufacturing
giblets out of the gun. And I've seen guns that
would not chamber a round that were brand spanking new,
and you could not put a rifle round or a
pistol round in the chamber. And you look in there
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and you can see the little glittery speckles of manufacturing
leftover stuff in there, and it just simply needed to
be cleaned. And so that's something that a lot of
people do on.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Know, cleaning guns is important. I had I had a
rifle the other day that someone wanted me to make
sure it would shoot safe. It had some mechanical issues,
barrel issues and had to have the end of the
barrel cut off and recrowned. And I just, Charlotte, I
want you to make sure this thing's safe to shoot.
I've got a box of two seventy and went out
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to my farm and put around in it. And I
just got as far away from the barrel as I
could and full of the trigger off my shooting bench
and it didn't blow up. So okay, that's how that's
how I know it was safe to shoot. I don't
have a metallurgic, I don't have any kind of X
rays or anything around here. We just have to go
do it. And then, well, and I had cleaned before
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I fired it, I went ahead. And because he'd had
the barrel refinished and the stock refinished, and it was
a beautiful old rifle and with an old scope on it,
I had some sentimental value. And I said, well, let
me clean the barrel first, because I don't want to
and rust came out of the barrel. I mean it literally.
I was cleaning rust out. I was taking my drill
bit brass cleaning rod, running a brush through there, trying
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to get that stuff out. Cleaned the barrel enough to
shoot it fired the first time I shot, I couldn't
get I couldn't get the bras casing out because it
had swollen up and there was corrosion in the boar.
So now once I tapped it out. I went back
in with a forty five caliber Bron's bristl board brush
and I honed it out smooth so it would do
that in the future. But you could see the corrosion
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edinburg once I got it all out. Now it's shoes,
but the groups big as you fiss not big, not
big as your thumb, which it should be. He's still
hunt with it. But because it sat so long without
being properly lucated and protected by gun. Yeah, and that's
what happens is they do great. So if you don't
take care of your stuff, we'll be right now.
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Speaker 3 (29:41):
Have you been seeing any teal up on leak.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I've been seeing a few, not a bunch. But I
think with this whether we're having coming in with his
front coming in, it's going to be in the Milow
sixties this week coming up, it's going to be beautiful.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Hey, I heard a little bit of shooting this week
this past week on the Lonely Ammonia, but I saw
I was coming to work this morning, and then I
came the the toll Road parkway across the plantation up
there north of town, and one of the one of
the little almost dry wet weather ponds or what do
you call them, what runoff ponds on the side of
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the road. I had a look at my pash pond. Yeah,
retention pond, that's what I was looking for. Had about
six inches of water in it, and there was about
twenty blue wing teal out there in that thing.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
We're looking for a puddle. There ain't been one for
a while. They've been flying around for three weeks looking
for a puddle.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
We ain't had no rain. Well, my gosh, thank goodness,
we got up there.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah the Mariana. That's I got hay fields over there.
They're crispy. Yeah, and you want some crunchy hay. And
now now we got some rain on it.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Planted that l I planted food plots the weekend Labor
Day weekend, so I ain't had a drop of rain
till last night. In the middle of the night, I
noticed my cameras, I've got a little bit of rain
last night. I was sure, glads it. I hope I
hadn't lost. I hope I ain't got to replant my
food plots. Now that's late in the game.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
But as long as it didn't germinate to start with.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Well, that's kind of what I'm worried about, Charles. I
just you know, I mean, it was wet, the ground
was moist when I put the seed down because it
had just rained, and it was supposed to rain three
days after I planted. It just never happened. So we'll see,
maybe maybe something, something green will come up.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So for the deersty, you got, you know how in
the south, you got, well, how much should it rain? Well,
it's settled to dust, you know. Yeah, And then if
you're farming, it's like, well, you know, it was a
you know, and all ride down the road like this morning,
I'm looking at well, got in the driveway. It settled
to dust. I don't know how much. I don't see
any puddles. There ain't no puddles in the ditch. Okay,
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so that's another standard as well, there's puddles in the ditch.
Now I look at the dirt road, and the dirt
roads muddy. So I know that we got enough. Yeah,
we got a little bit of rain now. And now
we got a new standard at my house because they
came down seventy three and they and they cut all
these little rumple strips in the road. You know where
right the center line, the center line's got rumple strips
in it. There are about three quarters of an inch deep,
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and then along the edge of the road. So if
it rains a little bit, you can get some in
the edge, but that crown of the road, there's nothing
in those. But there was enough to filled up the
ridges in the middle of the road. And so now
we got we gotta go a little bit. And so yeah,
there's but there's still no puddles in the ditch. So
it didn't rain that four inches. Yeah, that's uh. And
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it's now I have a gate. My rain gauge is
a swimming pool. I look out back and I see
how high is the water in swimming pool. I did
notice a little bit of a difference this morning. When
I walked out that was raining. I said, well, that's
that's good. That's good.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I'm just ready as happy it's not gonna be a
ninety five. Yeah, there is nothing above in the fort
the extended forecast. I looked at today there is nothing
above eighty something because we're not gonna get no nineties
for days. I mean it's over now, No, it's absolutely
not over. H middle of October I'll say, yep, probably over.
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But uh, I don't know. Weather's been. Yeah, weather's weird.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'm waiting for the snakes quick crawling so I can
go so some birds out in the bird dog go
hunt some quail. But I don't want her to get
snake bit and I don't want to step on wanting
big old this big old snake start moving around towards
the end of the year and scary.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I don't go in the woods this time of year
without snake boots on. I just I don't know. I
don't want to have to watch every step I put down.
And I'm usually if I'm in the woods, I'm paying
attention to something else. I'm wearing snake boots this time
of year.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Or dogs don't want them to get bit if they
don't mess with a snake, you know, but if they
get to.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
But most bird dogs that hadn't been hadn't gone through
snake avoid it's training, will point a rattlesnake.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
To you mine, don't she she for summer and she's
never been through it, but she doesn't. She doesn't like
to do anything. She will run right past the snake
and keep on going, don't pay no mind to it.
And she will turn to look at it, but she
don't get close to it. Rusty, on the other hand,
I don't know what that bipole the dog does. He
on one hand, he see if I'm around, he sees it,
he'll run away from it because he because he knows that,
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you know, he'll recognizes that that shot caller got him
during snake avoidance training. But if he thinks I ain't around,
he will go kill it. I mean, because it's like
daddy ain't here. I can do what I want. Because
I mean, I thought he'd been through all the snake
avoidance training that we could get him through. And I'm
out there one day on the loader doing some work,
moving some trees and stuff around. I look over there
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and he's running around with a copper head in his
mouth that he's done killed. I'm like, you idiot, what
are you doing. No, didn't get him that day. He's
every now and then had can't get one without getting hurt.
But that that but he's got to have it. He
has to have built up resistance. As many times he
been snake, we's had he's had the anti venom like
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four times. That stuff's a grand a shot. And I
actually had it, had to have it twice one time.
That's why I carry petty insurance on him, just just
for snake bites. The But now we've got the we've
got the shot callers and stuff, the GPS shot callers
on him, and so he what we used the spot on,
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which is the expensive one. But man, those things work
and he stays in the yard. I can take the
collar off of him. He runs around a little more free,
but he won't go past that point out there. He's
got like twenty something makers. He can run. But if
you get on a Cyba side and you're gonna go
for a ride, he'll get out there to it. He'll
sit there and look at you. And if you say,
come on, boy, you don't have a collar on, come on,
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he'll run back at the house. If you put him
on the Syba side and drive past that point and
you have to get out of sight of it, you
have to get over the hill and then and then
like get out there, he won't still won't get off
the cyber side until until you say I think I
saw a deer. And if you say the word deer,
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he bails off that cybea side and runs around looking
and sniffing, and he's on then. I mean, he's just
he's just this quirky dog that, uh I couldn't I
couldn't have I couldn't have designed a butter dog. He
just until he wants to get in my lap at night,
and then he will will not take no for an
answer and he uses high Is it the dog? You
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know all that? How do dogs develop those expressions? You know?
Dogs can Dogs can look at you in ways that
just cut to your soul and they know how to
do all. And I don't know if do we groom
that into them and let by trial and error? Did
God just program them with all the fields involved? I mean,
it's like I really want one of those French fries
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and I'm going to make you feel yeah, that's its
bad if you don't give me one.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
And skarr last night I said you want to go fishing?
One morning this morning I got up. He's just sitting there,
just calmly waiting.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Open the door.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
He's straight ready to go, go to the business, straight
to the boat.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
So you want fishing this morning before you came see us.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yes, sir, trying to see if now I want to
see everyone in this weather if they had buy because
I know where some biggins are.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
How cool is that that you just get up, walk outside,
walk down to your get on your boat, go fishing,
and then come do something else.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yes, there, it was a blessing. But the fish wasn't
baking this morning. You would have thought with that cloudy
whether the shatter all on the bottom. Well we'll talk
about the next ove it.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
But is there anything else you'd rather do than go?
Even if they're not biting? What else would you rather
be doing?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Maybe being in my bible?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
But but I didn't.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Weren't you weren't you really in it out there? They? Yeah,
you know in your head you were.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That's right. It was just this cloudy weather. You would
just man, I was thinking the fish would be jumping.
But mister jack Win had always told me that boy
and bask got their own kind of business. I'm like, well,
how did I learn that? He said, you better spend
a lot of time on that lake. You think they'd
be biting. You would see activity.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Their days huntings the same way. I mean, sitting in
the tree standing old.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
But i'd see the deer. At four o'clock this morning
out the acorns had started to falling around the ar.
I don't know if that's because we had no rain
or if that's just that time. You know what I mean,
is it? I was beginning to wonder, like, is it
from the no rain or just you know, but I'm
seeing them coming out and eating acorns early. They were
out early, about four point thirty, and I saw a
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squirrel run across the power line. In the backyard. We
have a I guess it's a pear tree. The thing
had a big old pair running.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I was looking at ways more than a squirrel. Yeah, funny,
those little sand hill pairs. They love them, so they'll
start making some nest right now. I wanted them squirrels.
That's that'll start in the next month.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Want it probably?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I don't know. I don't keep up with that.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I'll sit over there and scold you the whole time
you're in a tree stand they will, Yeah, they will
talk to you and everybody. You'll think of deers walking
up missus squirrel moving around in the leaves when they're dry.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I'm sure y'all squirrel hunt it on that much cold river.
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, I have you didn't trump?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, well, the only time I ever got over to
the river was when we went fishing. But i ain't
squirreling over there. I'm from a different part of county.
We we were over there, we had farming today, and
as when we went over there, it's because we'd load
up and go get on the river as a kid. Well,
now it's more to ride around and drink a beer.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
No that, Yeah, that's a big deal down there.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
People do that, yes, sir, drink beer.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Well, and the squirrel they do that down there.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Oh yeah, that that river swamp where me and you
were fishing a couple of weeks ago. That's that's a
big deal. They go every saying bar I have people
camped on it waiting on squirrel season. Open up and
have a big time doing it too. It's fun. I
enjoyed it, to be right.
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Speaker 3 (40:42):
Back, So how long do you think it's going to
be today? We're recording the show on Friday, the twenty six,
which is officially the first day of open caerry being
legal in Florida. Officially. Well, god have been, it's kind
of been so.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
All all the people going, well, you have to wait
till you know whatever, wasn't nobody going to that?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I think it will be before somebody slings or ar
and goes to Walmart.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I'd be surprised somebody hadn't already done it. Somebody wanting
to prove a point is out. They're doing it right now,
y'all stop. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. I mean
that it's yes, it's your right. It's also a sue.
Your right to do silly stuff, say stupid stuff, walk around,
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tell flat out ball face lies, and you do all
kinds of stuff. And yes, you're right to do it,
but that doesn't mean you have to. And it's not
in good taste. And all you're doing when you go
rub everybody's nose in it is to push people in
the middle to the left on this issue. Exactly, Yes
you can, but should you Well, all you're doing is
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taking people that would normally vote in your favor and
swing your way on this issue, and you're pushing them
in the other direction. And that's not a matter of
that's not a matter of Okay, So if you work
for somebody and you know you can tell your boss
to kiss your rear in and mean it, and you
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know they can't fire you because you got a union.
But is it a good idea to do that? Is
it really going to benefit your career and your forward
movement and your pay next time comes time for a pay?
Is that really a good idea? So when you depend
on these people in the middle to be on our
side of things, and then you're gonna go rub their
nose and so.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Don't do stupid things that you're gonnare them to go
the other way.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Now you're gonna freak out there.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
So yeah, open carriers, you can carry off. You said,
an AR fifteen r.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Rifle, shotgun, pistol, you can.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
You can walk now. If you want to do something
strictly for political gain, you want to go up and
do something in front of the legislature or something that
you can do now, and you want to protest it,
I don't know what you're protesting. We want, we do need,
we do need the legislatures right now. What we need
is a legislature to go clean up the laws in
our favor, okay, because.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
There's going to be have to be substantial changes to
the laws there as they are currently.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
They have to rewrite some laws in order to now
you can't be arrested for open carry right now, but
they can go back and they could increase the number
of places that you can't open carry a carry if concealed,
fire them if they wanted to. Legislature can go in
now because those safe places that they've defined, you know,
meetings and schools and things, they can be they could
(43:27):
expand that and they could limit us from carrying in
other places that go, oh, well, you know you have
to have express permission from private property owners in order
to carry instead of it being implied. And then they
can tell you.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
That I can back. I can say that those signs that
say don't bring your gun in here actually have power
behind them because.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
And then we arrest. Some states have that absolutely.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
If they got it in Texas, if they've got a
sign posted on their door of their store and it's
a public it's a store that's open to the public,
and there's a sign on the door that'say is, don't
bring your gun in here, and you do, you can
go to jail. In Florida, that store owner can only
ask you to leave. There's it's it's not an it's
not an enforceable right.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
So we've been saying all this time, if we pass
if we allow open carrier, normally if we passed open
CAREA but now open carry is the law of the
land in Florida. We've said, if open carry, it would
be like all the other states where there's open carry,
there's not any rat and you're not going to see
people care open carrying everywhere. Everywhere you go. You'll see
it from time to time, and we will, I mean,
we might do it once in a while just for
(44:33):
the heck of it, but it's not it's not gonna
be something that everybody's just gonna every street corner, something's
gonna have a gun on. There will be some people
that do. But if you go out now and so
I'm gonna do it to prove a point, and I'm
gonna rub everybody's nose in it, and I'm gonna I'm
gonna jump. That's not how conservatives act. We don't jump
up and down when we win a battle. We go,
we go thank you Lord. This is this is the
(44:55):
right thing for us to do. They killed Charlie Kirk
right exactly. Although emotionally I would love to see us
do some crazy stuff. But logically, we can't do that.
It's not the right thing to do. Where's the riots
right now? I promise you if that she had been
on the other foot, they would be burning down neighborhoods and.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
They just went after those That person shot them ice
officers and shot detainees.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yeah, how's that You're gonna go protest ice and shoot
shoot the very people that you don't want them getting
because you're an idiot or can't shoot or something. You know,
it's just that the idiocy of some people.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Did you see the new T shirts we got out
there just we just you know, the gas.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I didn't see. I saw the Christmas ones I didn't seek.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
There's a there's a really good one. There's about gen X.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
I said, I'm getting one of those.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah. It says, uh, we're not not anti social, we're
anti idiot.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah. For the people on TikTok that we're calling us boomers, yeah,
I missed it by like two years.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Yeah, the boomers are the is who you see at
all the anti anti king was it no King protests?
So that's the boomers. They're the ones in the walkers
in the wheelchairs. Sorry, that's just who they are. I mean,
and not all boomers are that way, but there's a
there's there's a percentage of them. They were the flower
children and the hippies in the sixties, that's right.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
And those of us who know, like the good boomers,
they called those woodstock boomers degenerates back in the sixties.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
But you would think if you go back and look,
you know, like growing up, I looked at those years
and it seemed like that was the way America was.
Everybody was wearing tied eyed shirts and smoking, weeding and
pretty much now this new generation, but it was not
really the majority of our country. It was it was
a sub segment of our community, kind of like the
(46:58):
far left is now. There's the same type of friend children. Yeah,
so it's you know, they say things skip a generation.
A lot of times they do because you look at
the cool grandpa and you want to be more like them,
but you know your parents are kind of they're they're square,
and you don't want to be like them.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
You know, you have more people on this left. I mean,
you got a lot of single family.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
You know, you have far lest you have far lest,
far left leaning people than you realize. They get the
vast majority of the press exactly. You see them more often.
I can't. I don't think they. I know, they don't
hold a majority.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
I met a guy the other day who's going to
be running for local office, and he said, well, he said,
my friends, my friends describe me as left of center,
and to me, that's a Democrat. Okay, all right, left
of center tends to be a Democrat. But we agreed
almost everything we talked about, you know, particularly as it
related to firearms and some local politics and stuff. I'm like, yeah,
(47:56):
I mean, if you're describing yourself he's one of my friends,
it call me that. I'm like, well, not on the
issues that I care about. So the thing is is
that most of us in this country can have a conversation.
It's the extremes that don't. That's right, and you know,
but sometimes the extremes drive the conversation. While I didn't
(48:17):
agree with now the people on the far left are
doing stuff, and while they have the emotional response and
they're pulling, but they're dragging their side further to the left,
which is pushing the country further to the right. Perceptually
exactly the way people see it is now that there
are people on the far right of the gun issue,
the people who were going carrying fishing poles and AR
(48:41):
fifteen's down to downtown Tallahassee, because that's what the loss
is in protest of where we are currently. I agree
with them in concepts. I count most all of them
as my friends. I like them. I didn't agree with
that tactic simply because you're pushing people that you count
on for votes. The other way, we didn't get open
(49:01):
carry because of the of the legislation that they voted
for in that case. Okay, And so I think my
point was born out that that type of activity doesn't
necessarily help us by bringing the mainstream over to our side,
but that that's the same organization that then sued and
got us this. I mean, they're the ones that backed
(49:23):
this person that got this case. So I applaud that effort.
They did a fantastic job.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
There.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
There's good tactics and there's bad tactics. And just because
I disagree with the particular tactic doesn't mean I don't
agree with you, with you or your organization which I'm
a member of, or anything else. I just don't I
don't have to agree with what you're doing. I just
see things from a different perspective sometimes, and that's open discourse.
That's how we get along as a country. That's how
(49:50):
and people on the right tend to disagree with each other.
Is that is that? Hey man, I don't know. That's
a good idea. Y'all have fun with that, have a
good time. People on the left cancel each other and
scream at each other and disown each other and boycott
each other and all that. I mean, you know, hey,
did you see where the Ben and Jerry's co founder
(50:10):
got a left the Unilever organization. You know, they were
anti everything, right wing, anti gun, anti anti anything.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Law enforcement, which is why I don't keep up with
Ben and Jerry.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
And so I wouldn't buy Ben and Jerry's because one
of the one that they were donating all this money
to to other causes. And we go in the grocery store,
I'm like, you know, y'all can't have that ice cream?
And and they but they were still part of the
organization and Unilever owns the owns it. Now they wanted
to spend Ben and Jerry's back off again because they
wanted to be able to have their political leanings, and
(50:42):
Unilever says no, and you can't do that, and so
one of them finally, I guess retired. He ain't hurting
from money, I'm sure, but uh, but he took it.
He packed his stuff and left. I still ain't buying
their ice cream, but because.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
I don't like their ice cream anyway. Blue Paul, you've
been catching any fish we ain't got, but it just
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yes, they've been biting this for this one coming up.
It's gonna be it's gonna be nice. This morning was
the slow, but it's coming. It's gonna be very good.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
It's that time of year. Yes, I'm ready for it. Yep,
I think uh, I think me and you need to
make another trip down the river. Well, let's do it,
all right, buddy, Let's see y'all next week.
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