October 4, 2025 • 51 mins
In Ep. 431 of The Talon Outdoors Show Charlie, JD, Paul, Fred, and Grant kick things off with tales of Fred's trip to a Virginia wedding, cowbells, and an e-bike ride gone sideways thanks to a cottonmouth. The crew dives into home and pet security, from snake-bite shock collars to the steep cost of antivenom. They shift gears to a new DUI law, and the latest federal government shutdown. Rounding things out are talks on housing struggles, post-apocalypse shipping-container forts, fall fishing tactics, and deer season scouting.
Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
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Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
Check out our archive of podcasts here: https://ihr.fm/36mzYjf. Follow the Talon Training Group and Range on Facebook @TalonRange.
Listen live to the Talon Outdoors Show from 10-11 a.m. ET on 100.7 WFLA!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Town Outdoors Show. I'm Charlie, I'm j D.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Easy with that, I'm Fred.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
That's a that's a joke that nobody gets but the
ones in the room. And we're not going to discuss
why it's funny to some people in the room. I
personally am offended.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It was a funny.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You never know, you maybe one of us is fighting
that issue. You know. I stuttered as a kid. I
was pretty bad stuttered, not like crazy, but a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Good to be back from Virginia.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Where were you at?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I was in Virginia. Uh, last week my cousin's wedding.
He married a nice girl. A managed to mess up
their wedding.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And I watched one of the video you sent us
that somebody filmed. Well, they had you because you were
too busy banging on a cow bell there.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh yeah. They had a dance thing going on in
Musicians and DJ one night, and somebody handed me at
cow bell.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And the nice girl's family was going, who is that
guy and who invited him? And do we have to
have him at family events?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And you did your dance. The world needs more cowbell
than the world.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I had a fever and the only prescription was more cowbell.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'm surprised you didn't get up and grab a guitar
and start singing some of your off brand.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
They well, they asked me if I could be dancing.
I said, I don't know, you have a microphone, and
they're like nope. So a nice trip, nice and cool
up there. This is around Johnson City, Tennessee. Took an
opportunity to ride a bike on the Virginia Creeper Trail.
There were fit right in yeah creeper uh. And the
(01:54):
wife and I got there to the bike rental place
and they had had one E bike left and regular bike,
so I took the e bank.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Of course, did you get to bring a rope to
tide to your wife's bike so you could tow her
along and she wouldn't have to pedal as hard?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Now? I made her pedal okay, and it probably went
I think thirteen miles on the trail didn't take us
very long. A lot of downhill. There a few little inclines,
but mostly downhill. Went through the rolling hills to rock ledges,
you know. In between rock ledges had big old snake
(02:29):
on the road and I stopped playing with him for
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, what kind of snake was it?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
He was a garter, a black garter snake, which you
don't see her out here, but he was probably three
and a half four feet long.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I saw I saw a video on Instagram sometime this week.
So idiot down in South Florida tried to pick up
and pet a copper or a cotton mouth. That did
not work all well out for her at all. It
did not work out all that well. She had very gossile,
showed her in, showed her in the hospital, you know,
before and after with her hands swoll up bout sides
(03:03):
of a softball. Well, yeah, and they're they're very, very
venomous and they're not friendly. Pick up the nice copper mouth.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
A cotton You can shoot a cotton mouth and it
will be dead, but it ain't dead.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Crawl off.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
We went out uh the Parkway one night when I
was still at the Shriff's office, and somebody was like, hey,
we got to wear a snake call at a lady's house.
And it's a little little subdivision there next to the
military cemetery and all this little you know, houses right
up next to each other, and they have little privacy
fences in the back and she had a water boks
(03:43):
in her backyard and cotton, so I, you know, went
They were like, well, we can we just shoot it.
It's under her back porch. I get my shotgun and
shoot it. And I'm like, no, you can't shoot under
her back porch with a shotgun.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
In it and buckshot.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, that's all. You can't do that. And I was
up near the sheriff's office and I said, well, hang on,
I've got a I have personally have a suppressed twenty
two pistol that I will bring out there. That's the
one that got me in trouble on time, and I
will bring that out there. And now it was a
(04:20):
different one. I forget anyway, I'm gonna bring this thing
out there and I'm gonna shoot shoot the thing with
the little twenty two. And so I got out there
and it was up under her deck, and I said,
you know, the boards are wide enough to accommodate a
twenty two caliber bullet. So I got up there and
put the bullet right down to the deck and I
shot it through the gap in the deck, which is
(04:44):
an awesome shot. I might add. They were adding getting
some light at an angle and I shot it and
hit it, and I reached up in there. She had
one of those hummingbird feeders, a little black rod that's
got the s uk on the end of it. I
took the hummingbird feeder off of it, reached up there,
and I drug it out there, and it wasn't moving.
Normally snakes are kind of squirm around a little bit.
It was not moving. Well, I was wearing. I was like, man,
(05:07):
this thing's huge. Let me look at this. So I
put my foot next to it, in my dinner size
thirteen dinner boot next to it, and I took a
picture of my foot next to that snake. Then we
got a call where a deputy was getting her rear
and handed to her and there was anyway, shots fire,
all kinds of crazy stuff happened. So I jumped in
the car and I'm hauling tailed at the far side
(05:29):
of the county and on a little while later, the
deputy calls me back, says, hey, this this snake came
back to life, and I had to shoot it with
a shotgun with buck shot. I'm like with buckshot, and
I'm like, what on earth. Well, it turns out apparently
(05:50):
a twenty two caliber bullet right through the middle of
that snake skull. Did not kill it properly. And we've
seen it out here where you shoot it, you shoot
a cotton mow and you think it's dead, and come
back a little while later that sucker is gone. Now
it may not have crawled off far, who knows, maybe
a bird guide. But those things, I've seen them get
up and come after you. And people go, oh, they're
not aggressive snakes. Well they might not be if you
(06:11):
leave them alone, if you don't ever mess with them.
But if you go to messing with them.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Try picking one up. See what happens.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Apparently it will buy that thing. I'll bite you.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Of them.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So yeah, Nie Tripp, great great park. Congratulations my cousin. Yeah.
And I had fun up there. Didn't think I would be,
but it did.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
There's a lot of a lot of parts of Virginia
are just absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
They did a great job. And this is Abington, Virginia.
Abington has done a great job of preserving their history.
Lots of old eighteen pre Civil War stuff there. They
even had a marker for the Stonewall Jackson Colleges of Women.
I didn't know they had one of those. But apparently
(06:58):
stone Wall was popular with the ladies, and you would
like him for one reason.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know, he was an educator, so there's that he
taught a vm I. Oh yeah, he did not know
that his cannons, his four favorite cannons are sitting out
on the prey ground at vm I to this day. Matthew, Mark, Luke,
and John they're sitting on the prey grounds at m
I taught engineering.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
There. You still have the picture of that cotton man.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, there's a picture that's pretty good. They don't normally
get over that's a vegan there.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, that's my size. That's my size, thirteen.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Foot four or five foot and cotton mouse normally don't.
I ain't. You don't really rarely see them over about
four feet.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, that's amazing technology right there. I just went to
my Google photos and said and AI things said, fine
photos of snakes and my pictures, which there won't be
many because I don't like snakes. If you did love
and behold it's that was October tenth of twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Really found that quick.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That wasn't too long ago. I guess it was.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You know, today's a scroll in his rolling and throwing.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I usually do. I got THI in the pictures I want,
well me too, particular one it's like.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Type in their Largemouth bass and see.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And there's a picture of my wife holding a rattlesnake
scrolling on a phone like, ain't nothing to it? That
a life, Well, technically it's dead at that point in
time because uh yeah, my wife she snakes, don't scare.
But when she goes out and there's one on the
back porch, guess who's going to move it?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It ain't her.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's kind of like I when we're teaching classes, I
like I talked about, well, you know, situation awareness. You're
sitting there and you're saying, I use example, you're sitting
in your recliner at night and you hear something go
crash on the back porch. We talk about freeze, fight,
flight or you know, face fight anyway, so you and
I said, you know it's and you hear that crash,
(08:50):
the first thing you do is you freeze. You pause
because you're trying to figure out what it was, trying
to justify what was the noise. You know what, when
my dogs aren't barking, that just all these things you're
going through your head. And I said, it's so, what
do you do? Do you get up and do you
flee to the back room and then call down one
one or do you go face it and see what
the deal is and then it Ultimately, if you can't
(09:11):
posture and they don't submit, then you know you may
have to fight. I said, around my house, I know
what's gonna happen. When something crashes outside. I'm gonna get
up and go face it because my wife is gonna
be sitting there and she's gonna tell me, Hey, go
see what that is. So I know what mine is.
Mine's mine's to pretend I didn't hear it. And then
once he gets my attention, I get my happy tail
(09:33):
up and I walk outside and see.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
What it was. If it's a snake, you freeze.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Now I'll turn it. Well, you said we turn the
dogs out, but you know the dogs that just run
past one because they've got that snake avoidant stuff, so.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
They don't they don't snake avoidance.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
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snake avoidant Snake avoidance and yeah, that's the the Redhills
(10:59):
Quilt forever there.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
They posed they host the classes. We've had them out here.
Give them a place they I think they did one
out here, so.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You put it. They'll put a non venomous snake on
the ground that they can catch but they'll take it
and they'll put a rattlesnake and then they'll put like
a cotton mouth.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And I think they them, don't they.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I don't know if they do or not, but they're they.
They have them in a cage. They don't put them
out and open. They put them in a cage. And
then they put a shot collar on your dog and
they turn it all the way up and then you
you take your dog on a leash and you walk
it near the snake cage, which is the hardest thing
for me because I don't like to get in their snakes.
And uh so, and I took Rusty.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
That that is sneak that shot callar in your back pocket,
so both of you get it at the same time.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And you walk that thing by there, and if the
dog avoids the snake, then that's all it. You know,
you try to walk it by two or three times.
And if the dogs like I don't know how nothing
to do with that then, or no, doesn't pay any
interest to it, then you're fine. But when a dog
runs up there and sticks your nose in there, which
Rusty the first time he went, he was all bad,
I'm gonna run up there. And get that thing. He
ran up there and stuck his nose down there, and
they hit him with that shot. Called ain't one of
(12:10):
those little pap It's like, and that dog's doing upside
down flips and turning around and all that stuff. Because
here's the thing is when a dog gets bit by
a snake, all the pain and the suffering is later,
and a dog needs for a dog to recognize that
this is a bad thing, they need immediate feedback right then.
You can't. Like you come home and the dog choose
(12:32):
up your favorite fair of shoes. Then you know Fred's
high heels and all that. You know that heels messed up.
Then you then and you get on them two hours later.
That don't really work. But if you do it right then,
like you catch him doing something, especially if you can
have it remote where it's not you doing it, so
(12:53):
that collar, that dog only knows that I smelled a
snake and all of a sudden, I'm in pain, so
I associate pain with that snake and you go. And
that's cruel, man, y'all. Not the shot does dogs. It's
better than that. Well, first off, it's better than a
dead dog. It's better than the pain and suffering they
go through. And it's certainly better than the thousand dollars
a shot for any better that you got like it,
(13:13):
because I've had I've had to go through two rounds
of any venom on one dog and one round on
how much other dogs close close to three grand for
the two dogs that got into one snake.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I give you one better than that. I had a
friend last year, last summer bitten by a rattlesnake. Twenty
five thousand dollars a vial of antigrant an of them.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, the dogs, I think that expensive. So if you
could just get your hand.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Taking her to a vet.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, I have pet insurance on my dogs, specifically for
snake bites.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
You can buy that.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's all kinds of different versions of it.
Mine's a reimbursement deal where you go pay for it
and they'll pay you back a certain amount. It doesn't
cover like normal vet visits and shots and wormen's and stuff, but.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
It pays catastrophic health care.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
When when when Dolly, I've got Lily now is my
GSP Before that I had Dolly. Dolly got bit a
lot by snakes, so did Rusty Lily. My current girl.
She's a good girl. She doesn't mess with snakes, so
we haven't had to do a whole lot with her.
But but but, Dolly, I got to pet insurance because
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of all the anti venom and the snake bites. And
then she got uh an infection, uh fungal infection in
her gut and I ended up killing her. But all
the surgeries and stuff, I mean, it's a sad, sad thing.
And went through a couple of surgeries, different vets, really
good veterinarians good I mean veterinarians bedside manners generally a
(14:42):
lot better than regular doctor's bedside and well, I mean
they're dealing with you know, they're emotionally attacked animals like
we are. And so I had some really good experiences there,
although we lost the dog, but I had pet insurance
and for the first time ever, because this is one
of the things. A lot of times people put their
animals down because they can't afford a money. It's like,
(15:04):
this is gonna cost me how much? You know, And
I've lost dogs and surgeries and stuff before. But the uh,
but the but the money always comes into play, you know,
that doesn't come in play with people, you know, we're gonna,
as Grandpa gonna make it. Well, I don't know, it's
gonna cost a lot of money if we keep him around,
so we're gonna go ahead and put him down. We
don't do that with people, but with dogs and cats
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and whatever we find, we find that that economic number,
that that we we draw the line and go. We
got to put them out of their pain and suffering.
And well with pet insurance that never never came up.
It was he said, Well, man, Charlie, this is gonna
cost I don't care. It doesn't matter because it's all
ninety percent of it's covered. I can afford to copay and.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Per dogs at a policy per dog is I.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Pay thirty dollars a month for each of my dogs.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Would have saved me.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Who's that with, Charlie? Can you mention it?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah? I will in a minute. I'll come back to it.
I have to look it up there.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
That's cool, I mean, that's there's a lot of people. Well,
if I lost this gut, I want to check into that.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You should.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So much as I take it.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well, I think if you go to a veterinarian and
you get pet insurance and you just change your name
to rover. You know, it might save you some money.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
You gotta say, Fred, you're gonna go by a daisy
or it's gonna go about Fidoh maybe spoke.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I don't think I reinstalled app on my phone. I'll
have to. I'll have to. I'll have to research it.
But there's a bunch of them out there that are
and you just have to look. Okay, is this one
that covers routine visits. It's kind of like health insurance.
You know, you just pick a tear.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
And yeah, I like that catastrophic than me something not
steak back there you go.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's well, if you're paying thirty dollars a month over
the course of a year, what's that three sixty three
hundred and six dollars a year to take your dog
to the vet and get one viol anivenoms gonna run
you between eight hundred and one thousand dollars, especially if
you go to on it. It never happened during the
middle of the day. It always happens on the weekend
or after hours. You have to go one of these
(17:03):
pat hospitals in and so then it gets real expensation.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
In your case, you got the farm up there and
they're running around on the farm, and sure plenty of places.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
For there's poisonous snakes out there. And if your dog
you're gonna mess with this.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Time of year, I tell you this.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Dry as it's been waters around your area, JD. As
dry as it's been.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, it's a weird. It's a weird thing considering I live,
you know, less than one hundred yards from the from
the bank of the lake Ammonia, right. We rarely see
snakes at all, and if I do, I've had a few,
like white eak snakes and stuff in the yard. Never
had a poison to snake in the yard. Never had
a gator in the yard. I've seen them cross the
road between me and Deer Lake. I've seen gators walk
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across the road. Never have one up in the yard.
But I do when I open the front door at
night to go out and let the dog out of whatever,
I do, look around real careful before I go to
walking around, because it's it's prime habitat for one. But
just don't see them there. Don't get mosquitoes bad. That's
the other thing, you know, you think we'd get toted
off is living that close to the lake, but further
inland in claren Lakes, like where my mom lives on
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the other side of the neighborhood. Man, you can't go
out after dark. The skit is a tote you off
my house.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It's like they fly over and go somewhere else. I
don't know. I'm okay with.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It because there's no behaeagrashs there. That's probably what it is.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, maybe I don't know. So none in my yard.
None in my yard. I'd dig it up.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Forgot the Miami game coming up this weekend?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yes, yeah, today today, today, would beget this evening?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Well, yeah, of course ESPN. I guess they're not having
game day at this I guess because that's probably because
we throw eggs at Herb Street. Maybe. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't know what. I gotta believe. I could be wrong,
but I gotta believe more people are going to watch
the FSU Miami game than they are the Vanderbilt Alabama game,
which is where they are having the game day. But
we always of course, you know, Vanderbilt Vanderbilt be Alabama
last year, so that's yeah, makes it a little more interesting. Maybe,
of course, you know, they're a bunch of elitists at
(19:06):
that school. Yeah, which one.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Good point. What is it Vanderbilt?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
What is the Commodoores?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah, the Commodores of course, you know, and they stand
up there instead of you know, old tied or whatever.
They repel them, repel them, make them relinquish the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I mean, was that the IVY League in the Ivy
League version of the SEC. Yeah, instead of go a
woo pig.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, that's what they are.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Repel them, repel them.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So of course, I you know, with the with the
Miami fans in town, there's there's likely.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You're gonna you're gonna probably get some work out of this.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
So you open twenty four seven this week?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's uh and the just two two
two four thousand and five, it's on twenty four to seven.
They'll hook you up with me. Of course. There's there's
some new laws in effect now.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah. So used to be if if if you if
it was your first offense driving under the influence, and
you got opportunity or so, what happens is they arrest
you for driving under the influence, if they have problem calls,
take you down to the jail. In most cases, some
some officers have breathalyzer tests in the cars. Most of
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the officers are going to take you to the jail
and ask you to take a breath test. And used
to be you could say Nope, not going to take that.
They'd threaten you with a license suspension. Then they just
take your license from it and take your license. But
you can get a hardship permit, you know, almost immediately if.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
That has to drive for work, that's the hardship.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Drive for business purposes, the church, doctor, work, pretty much
anything except for recreational purposes.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Can't pull the boat to the lake, well, he could.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Because that would be for work. So I actually got
a guy off one time once. I wouldn't recommend this,
but he had gone to Lanark caught a couple of
red fish for dinner, and I was like, well, you
know he had to eat for him. That that worked
in Franklin County.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You know, I'll be not Tallahassee.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Maybe the best solution is don't drink and drive.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's probably the best one.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That's absolutely a fool proof way not to go to
jail for DUI.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
So now the law has changed and the officer can
now tell you if you don't take a breath test.
I'm gonna charge you with a misdemeanor refusal to take
the bread test.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
It sounds like a lot of violations.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
To me. It does, it does now. It has long
been a crime for the second refusal, but now it's
if you refuse the the first time, it's a misdemeanor. Now,
if they charge you with a refusal to take the
bread test, the penalty for that is not near what
it is for a DUI conviction. So DUI conviction cares
(21:58):
with it all kinds of mandatory penalties, including a conviction
that stays on your record for the rest of your life.
This does not does not Now that you know judge
might give you.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
A penalty, might still get the d u I too.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You might still get the du I. You can still
get convicted of the DUI no breakfast, Yes, with no
break you can still get convicted for du I. If
you take a breath desk and blow under the legal one,
you can highly unlikely if I'm your lawyer, but.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I don't know, I might take you up on that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I might beat you on that.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Free you never know.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I convince allan I'm convincing in front of the jury.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Even nice guys can be crossings.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
N just call me and go. Will you take a pleat?
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, I don't want to get to court. We'll be back.
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We are catching our streaming audience in this thing. So
Fred do you go? Will you go to Marianna and
do a dui?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah? You will with judge Mercer are usually charged a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
More, but I mean travel involved. So the travel expense there.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
It's it's what is a journey in that courtroom?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
M hmmm. I don't comment on anything related to the
judicial system in my home county.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I just put it this way. I wouldn't get caught
do anything wrong in Jackson County. That's that's not a
good place to get caught. We not as bad as
Marion County. Now, Marion County, I mean, don't even if
you're driving through America, you know, make sure you fill
up before you get to that county line. Don't stop,
drive the speed limit, all that speed limit, keep going
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and just get out of there.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Where's Marion County?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, well I try not to go that. That's about
as far as I like to go. I've got to
drive this weekend. I'm going to Jupiter.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Beach through Marion County.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I think, yeah, but I'm driving a Mark Jackson County
Sheriff's Office vehicle.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Should you should be fine?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
They got a they got a one ton truck there.
I'm going to pick up some stuff for a vehicle
that the agency is acquiring, and I'm going to get
to peripheral stuff, which is gonna be a lot of fun.
It got down to meet with one of their tactical
guys and hang out and talk and grab some stuff
and come back.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
But ham wrapping Jackson County. Yeah, okay, fifty cow.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
No, none of that stuff. None of that stuff. It's
it's it's uh, it's there. There's a reason for everything,
and I'll just leave it at that. But he's going
to dist watching soccer.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
That's when what is my life in tail? Watching soccer,
watching watching girls little you know, teenage girls play soccer.
That's that's that's that's my life.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You know, you your daughter's coming here once in a
blue moon, and when they come in, I'm like, who
is it. Oh my god, she's grown up. Yeah they
have grown up. Yeah, yeah, it's a one mine has
to you know. It's it's I look at my son
every now and then and I like, where did he
come from? He's like a he I mean like a
little fella. It's like a little fella. Yeah, he walks around.
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I'm like, where'd you When did you get so tall?
I looked over there one day and he was taller
than my wife, which is not much of a challenge,
but you know, I'm like, when did you get almost
a head hired? And she is, Yeah, I don't think
he's gonna be as tall as me.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
So you're not gonna be able to go to the
beach or any of that, or No, he was gonna
watch soccer.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Hat two games on Saturday evening and one game on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
That's a lot of sow come home here.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, there's soccer tournaments.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
So what are you gonna do it meantime?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
What's that you go out in between?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
In between soccer games. Uh, probably sitting under to ten
or get something to eat or whatever. Try to watch
the ball game in between or while while the soccer
games going on. Have my I have my tablet or
my phone watching the watching the football games.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
To take the van and then set up the internet
and stream and.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Watch it on the I actually thought about that that
would be.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
That would be like I have the Dad soccer.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So if you're if you're out there, if you're out
there in radio land and you are interested in a
what do we have a twenty fourteen Mercedes.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Limo Vans Sprinter Limos Sprinters.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It is set up like a three liter diesel that
runs like a top and got.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Three TVs in it, Internet solid, a microwave, a refrigerator,
drawer in the back, set up with Limos chairs in it,
and a fold down bench in the back. Bench seat
turns into a bed and I only got like fits
something thousand miles on it. We've got it listed for
sale on Facebook Marketplace. Anybody's interested.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
We bought it, we went, it's been to South Dakota
back and whatever else. But I don't know. Last year
we dreve the trucks because of the dogs.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So well, I thought when we got it we were
going to get to listen to fred Tale tell lies
and stories guitar.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Back, and we have to we have to look at
each other the whole way.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
So, I mean, there's a certain judge that I have
to take care of.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
We won't get into that. Yeah, the people who attend
with us that is that is client this privileged client information.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
It is for good reason.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
That's a man I hate when in that trip this year, that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Really really really absolutely killing me.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That was like a gut punch right there.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Really was looking forward to that for a year. I
guess I got to know the year to look forward
to it.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Well, let's look forward twice it. We'll be twice as
ready for it when it rolls back around. It's just
I don't know, Man's that's one of the annual things, right,
I don't figure. I want to live so many years.
I want to make sure I get to go as
often as I can.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I want to see Maslena for she goes to prison.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Oh, Jess, we'll be back in just a minute.
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Speaker 2 (29:40):
What I'm probably not gonna be able to participate in
this segment. They got the higgops.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
You got to higgus.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
There?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
What kind of what what are you putting on? Now?
This is radio Fred.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You got Fridy for radio shut down.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You look like the cred has just put on a
glue on mustache. Are you gonna go? Are you gonna
go to a court on Halloween as an illegal immigrant
and undocumented workers? That what you're gonna go as?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I'm trying to look like Hai Keen, Jeffreys and Chuck.
She a pretty good job, I think, so.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
I mean, well, I just got a picture of you,
So congratulations you become the thumbnail for this week.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So speaking of government shutdowns, well, yeah, so Silencer Shop
the quit I probably won't get through this as it
is without hiccupping.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So the Silencer Shop is a company that we used.
Process Suppressers sent sent out a notice to all the
dealers this morning, the government shut down update Forms three,
Forms one in form four. So A Form three is
the dealer to dealer transfer of suppressors or n FA items.
Form one is the authorization to manufacture your own NFA
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item that's suppressor's short barrel rifle, and A one four
is the transfer from dealer to individual. They can be submitted,
but the A t F processing is paused, which means
that the the E form is gonna stay active. Submission
would be saved, but no processing until the examiners return
(31:16):
to work, so they have been there. Not essential as
a non essential government shut down is the people that
process those uh, those particular forms.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
So I got to wear this mustache and sombrero until
they fix the silencers.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Well that you can still do everything right now, and
when the when the shutdown is over, when they when
they work their their differences out up there in Washington,
d C. All this will be moot point, but it'll
go back and it could happen.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Any until a month later when they have to probably
do it again.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
They're gonna kick the can down the road for one
more one more month, and then come back and kick
it down the road again. And instead of them doing
their job and it's just anyway, just another yet another inconvenient,
they'll capitulate. I don't know, it doesn't matter. It's just
do your job, do your job and get us a
you know, fix the budget situation and we don't need
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any more debt and whatever else.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
So as a country, well it's not I don't care
which administration is in office. Our national debt keeps climbing
and climbing and climb. Deficit spending is in there, and
you can go study economics. Just most of what I
studied in college is economics. And you talking about how
deficit spending is good for the economy and that the
government plays a role in the GDP. Blah blah blah
(32:33):
blah blah. Well, I mean that's like saying, yeah, you
can live in a nicer house, you just got to
borrow more money. And it's it's. You know, when I
was watching this was a John Stossel, the video he
put out about everybody's screaming about this generation can't afford houses.
Do you see what houses are now versus like the
houses that we grew up in. It's not the same houses.
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You can't just go by like a starter house, you know.
And if it is, it's like a little townhouse or something,
it's it's And then they talk about the cost of living.
You look at the standard of living that people try
to maintain now versus the standard of living we had
back then. How how how often did your family go
out to eat? Back then, you went home, you you
(33:16):
didn't go out. Now how often do people go out
to dinner? And then you have to tip? You know,
on top of all that, you know, everything is way
more expensive. The standard living we're trying to maintain a
standard living that is way too high. Somebody who can't
afford to put gas in their cars stopping at Starbucks
for a nice latte or some crap, and they and
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they're like, I can't put gas in my vehicle, but
I got it twelve dollars coffee.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Like you were saying, Charlie, you drive sometimes, drive to
your car that gets great gas mileage or your cut
just just you don't have to because you can't afford it.
You do it because it makes sense, it makes financial sense. Yeah,
so I bought a little car I got makes financial well.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
We have we have it at this point in our lives.
We have the luxury at one of having a little
bit of wisdom, a little bit and a little bit
of wisdom because financial wisdom and little life experiences and stuff.
And then you, Okay, if I buy something new or nice,
I know based on all of my other expenses that
this is okay for me to do this. Maybe it's
not the smart thing. If I'm trying to invest money,
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Should I go buy a new car or should I
keep the one I have and pay it off and
then put the money I would be making on a
payment into some sort of investment account and investing money. Yeah, absolutely,
I should do that if I need that. So it's
a matter of setting your priorities. But unfortunately, a lot
of the younger people, and granted this is a lot
of your generation as well, that you see the struggle
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right at the same time. Back in our day, it
was dinner at home. You came home when the street
lights came on, and you went home and you ate,
and there was there was somebody was cooking. And the
cars were very basic cars that didn't have all.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Had one good one. You might have one.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Half of them didn't have air conditioning, most of them
didn't have any were to wind this road down, They weren't.
They weren't as significant a portion of your income as
what a new car is. Now Now you can buy
affordable vehicles.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Right, So even even in I've talked with my friends
about this, and I when I when I share with
friends around my age about the status of life that
I'm in. So I'm under thirty, married with two kids,
and totally debt free, and I'm trapped. I can't I
can't get into that next level of home purchasing cause
(35:33):
just simply trying to get through any any kind of
savings building up over time. It's it's nearly impossible to
break through out of my current home to say, like
as our families expanding want to get a bigger property,
bigger home just for normal space purposes. It's like, where
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the the neighborhood that I grew up in? I can't
even go back into, right It's it's out of my
price range. Andrew Straights are you know, too high. I'm
in essence trapped because I have a really good interest
rate right now. We rEFInd a few years ago and
I got in just like at the very I was
the very like last and so now homes in the
(36:17):
literally the area that I grew up in here in town.
I'm like, can I even go back and buy a
home in my own home neighborhood? It's really hard. And
I'm like, probably the one percent of all zoomers, like
no debt, right for your no debt, have a job, wife,
(36:38):
two kids, no loan, no student loans, absolutely not the mortgage.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
And even then I feel like I'm kind of the
top one percent of all zoomers. And even then, I'm like,
I can't imagine if you're like a young guy who
maybe had some some challenges and then you correct your
life over time as you age. I can't imagine how
hard it would be for them. And I'm thankful that
I've had lots of family that has taught me wonderful
(37:05):
things about how to manage money, about how to you know,
manage the home, all those things, be wise with all
those things. And even then it's just like, I don't know.
I don't know how I'm going to break through.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I don't I couldn't afford the house I live in now.
I mean, I if I wanted to buy my house, yeah,
because it would be it'd.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Just double since you bought it. Probably if you if
you've lived there more than ten years. I've lived there
for twenty five, yeah, so it's probably quadruple since you
couldn't you bought. I mean, it's I know, you know,
living in claren Lakes like I do. The crazy what
home prices going to for what used to be starter homes?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah, usually used to be at a starter own for
you know, eighteen hundred square feet Yeah yeah, that that
home now half million dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, It's it's insane.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
And the interest rates on top of that is uh
you know that in the mixture that so your your
monthly your monthly payment becomes or something like, yeah, it's
pushing to it's gonna be pushing two thousand dollars. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
It's like with me, I moved out of Tallahassee, Lean
County and moved to family land. But it's expensive family land.
But I got out of this market to go somewhere else.
And so one of the ways is to give up
the conveniences of having a public sent every other syear
the corner and move into a community doesn't have.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
One, don't touch your neighbor through the window.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
But you're also giving up not only that nuturally, you're
also given up like why why I left Gasden County
as a teenager. There was no way to There's no
money to earn over, there was no jobs that earned
a lot of money. You don't have to worry to drive,
you don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Well, my nephew drives from Marianna all the way across
town to Costco at the wee hours of the morning,
long before daylight, every day in order.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
To because that's where he has to make a good living.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Proud of it makes a good living. But he drives
every single day, drives an hour one way, an hour back.
And there are so many people in my community. It's
just basically a bedroom community for Panama City, for Dothan,
or to Tallahassee. But it is a little less expensive
to live there. Your food costs the same, your gas
is gonna cost a little bit more, but you can
buy a little bit nicer house. There's not a big
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housing surplus there at all. It's hard to find one,
and everybody complains when to build a new subdivision. So anyway,
we'll be back in just a minute.
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See and nobody. We're talking about housing. When we left
and I told my wife how long ago, I said,
if it were, if I were left to my own devices,
I'd still live on this farm. But there would be
three or four shipping containers out here, bolted together in
a compound with some with some watchtowers on. I take
the twenty foot ones and I put them on the
corners diagonal, and I'd make me a square out of
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the rest of them, and I'd have you know a little.
It would be set up like an old school fort
back in the day, except that.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Like one of those chippings, you know, like they had.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
And oh yeah, I don't think I wouldn't if if
I was a single man and didn't have that, I
promise you, uh I would. It would be a winter
long project. It would be a buried one too, with
concrete around it. You can't bury those but dirt on
expect from the hold up because you're not that sturdy.
But if you bury and use it as a platform
to pour concrete around and work just fine. And uh yeah,
yeah I do that. I don't think I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
The one where he had the guy right around on
the semi and he had to do the road yeah,
road war.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yes, well it started out with the bad Max and yeah,
post apocalyptic Charlie, that's that's him.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I'd be the guy with the bad teeth flying around
on a little helicopter.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, so I where they got all of the NITROSX
side for the vehicles and post apocalyptic world. I mean
I always wondered that they were having a hard time
with food and water, but he had nitrous.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, he had a on his car. He had a
supercharger on his car that just like the one Chuck
Norris had in Lone Wolf McQuaid, which don't exist. By
the way where you can grab the handle and pull
the handle up and all of a sudden crank the
supercharger up. Anyway, superchargers work on an engine. They have
to run. They run all the time. Yeah, you don't
just turn it on and off anyway.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Artistic license with this, yeah, yeah, anyway, So what's going
on in the fishing world.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I brought some baits that they are biting this fall.
The fall bite is on for sure.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
It's the water temperature.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Seventy eight seventy nine. It's come down five or six
degrees correctly. But there's been some baits that's really been
working good. I want to try to do what Charlie
says to explained this on. This is a lipless crank
bait rattle trap. So the rattle traps are working now, yes,
very good. And when you just throw it out and
really and it vibrates it up and man, that has
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been catching some fish right there. This will this will
continue to work probably into November through November. It works
really good again in the spring. That's really been working
good also right now. A crank bait. This is a
square bill crank bait. It runs about four to five
foot deep. And you notice everything is a shad color.
I'm want to show that up there on the YouTube
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speak to see it. But that's that's been working. It's
got a little bit more subtle not to it.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Okay, that's been working good.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Any any shad color right now is working real good.
And then jerk baits, these have been working good. Now
I want you like this, Fred, this is a jerk bait.
You want to you want to get the wh just
when it's a jerk jerk pause and that pause when
you get a jerky in, that's when you're lying something
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off that. That's that's a rapalla x rap very good bait.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Right.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
So it sits in the water on the top.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Of you rill it under the water and it suspends.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
And so you palls and there and then continue reeling.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
No, let it pause.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
How long are your paws?
Speaker 4 (44:08):
I like to count about ten. Somewhere between one and ten.
They're gonna bite and then you they'll continue to bite
that where were that? So you throw it out, reel down,
reel down, let it pause, jerk your then jerk your rod,
jerk it on the sideline, pop it and throw your
rod back to it your tip.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Okay, and let it sit there and just let it
pau and it'll sit.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
There suspended in the water.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
So they're gonna bite when it pauses.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Most of the time, right when you first start the
first jerk, it'll hit it on that fast. That's right,
that's right.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yeah, But that's that's the basis. Really been working good.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
As we we get some cloudy days, like we're supposed
to be having some rain coming in this weekend, then
use buzzdays will start, you know that buzz bait by
the turn on. They're really feeding right now, and it
seems to me like.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
They know something we don't, like we gonna have an
early winter.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, it seems like the yellow
butterflies heading south in September way sooner than it. And
I was going to ask Charlie, is he noticing things
on his farm that are different for fall?
Speaker 3 (45:10):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (45:10):
Then last year just seems to me like everything's I
just saw a bunch of dagmar pelicans. It ain't see
I ain't never seen that this time of year.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Well, I'm noticing there's a lot of butterflies and stuff
right now, but it's this this harvest season I'm looking
more at green stuff growing. I don't really pay much
attention to.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I know, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, my granddaddy
always would uh talk about the yellow butterflies. And I
don't know what the name of them, the scientific name,
but that was always an indicator when you started seeing
those yellow butterflies, the solid yellow, bright yellow butterflies. When
you started seeing those show up, that's when the red
fish and trout would start heading towards the creeks. And
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that's when the the you'd start seeing dove and the
quail be covered up, and you the bass would start
feeding for schooling up, feeding for feeding up for a
winter and all that was always an indicator of of
a weather and unimpending weather change, a more permanent weather change,
not just a system coming through or whatever. That was
always an indicator of fall and winter time are coming right,
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and and yeah, and there's it's just like you were
talking about with the may flies this year, them them
stay in active and the brim bedding through the sa.
I'm sure there's a biologist out there that can explain
what all that stuff is. But people that live outdoor
lifestyles like like we do. If you pay attention. Nature
will tell you. It'll it will show you things. It
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will tell you things, and you pay attention to it.
And I know, I don't know how much truth there is,
but I know my granddaddy in the in the spring
would when he was picking corn, we would corn and
get ready to pick for us to eat, you know,
not not for the cows to eat. But he'd look
at how much husk was on the on the corn,
you know, how much? Uh, And he goes, it's gonna
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be a big winter. We don't have a big winter
this year, because there'll be right, that would be more
husk on the corn than their normal than than normal,
you know. And and a lot of times he was
absolutely was right, you know.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
And that that's kind of stuff you don't learn in school.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yes, that is creative, that is you don't And that's
that's an education that a lot of kids nowadays completely
miss out on, and probably a lot of people my
age missed out on it. I just happened to have
been raised by really old you know. My grandparents were
born in turn of the century, and I got some
I got some old school school and from from both
of my granddaddies.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
You know, I was coming in today and seeing the
you know, the com trails in the sky, how they're expanding,
and I'm like, didn't go this morning? You mean the
trail we called kim trail. I bet they are biting today. Yeah,
I've not seen that in three or four days.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
What were you going to say, grand I was just
gonna say.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
I can remember hearing my grandfather tell stories about how
when he would have interactions with the professors that would
teach teach at the ag schools you know, in the
area or whatever, and he would just come back and say,
these guys don't know what they're talking about. They don't
know anything about how the land works. And to exactly
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your point, more times than not, you know, when my
grandfather or other grandfather would say, my knee hurts, there's
a system out west.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
He was gonna begainst rain a few days. Right, I'll
tell you this, and I'll believe this until the day
the Good Lord calls me home. If you are on
your way fishing and you ride by a cow pasture
and the cows are laying down in the field, you
might as well just turn around and go back to
the house. That's true, am I wrong. I mean, it's
just and it's one of those things that's just that
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that means there's they're not feeding right now, and you know,
deer hunting, it's it's important to me on the way
deer hunting to watch the sides of the road early
in the morning you're going out deer hunting. If you're
seeing a bunch of deer moving on your way to hunting,
you're probably gonna have a good day in the in
the tree stand and see a lot of deer. You
may not see the deer you want to shoot, or
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you may not. You know, whether or not you shoot
the deer is irrelevant to me.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Have cameras out yet at your you are they sending
you are.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
I'm seeing right at daylight. I've seen a lot of
a lot of activity right at daylight and right at dark,
just before dark still and then about two o'clock in
the morning. I'm getting a whole lot between midnight and
two in the morning and a lot of activity. Now
I keep five cameras running around.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
I've been having deer coming there out there just morning
at four thirty and they're just they're eating acorns. The
acorns finally starting to fall and that's what they've been eating.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
What it seems like last year we had a real
heavy acorn crop.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
I think that's real rain dependent. I think that's more rain.
That's more rain. We had a pretty weir drought, right,
but we had a really wet summer last year, and
I think we've had a really dry couple of months
at least. But yeah, I mean that's and you know,
you get this time of year, you get front starting
to get fronts moving through, and the wind just will
pick up out all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
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and you'll and you'll and that'll like a lot of
acorns on the ground, and that will trigger deer to
get up and feed or whatever. You know, that's what
you're doing when you when you sling corn in a feeder,
you're simulating of yourn acorn fall. You know, they like
the corn and the acorns.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
And it would say to me, if you have a
heavy acorn crop, you're gonna get less movement from the deer.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yeah, they don't have to work as hard to get
something deep.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
You know, you've got, you've got. So I'm thinking that
maybe with less acorns this year, you got more movement.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, it's quite possible. I mean, I know that deer.
If deer have a choice between acorns on the ground
and corn on the ground in a food plot or something,
they will choose the acorns.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
Every time I could tell you will stay on the
golf course. You know, I played after work there.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Don't care more deer.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
I saw more.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
I hit one with the real fall.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
Yeah, I yelled for then, and uh.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
We got We got home late last night and I
think I had I had seven and laying down in
the front yard last night when I got home in
my front yard, they were. They sleep in my front
yard pretty regular. I've seen as many as twelve or thirteen.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
But we've seen more road kill on the highway in
front of the.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
I put a little corn out for him at the house.
Somebody's speeding through my neighborhood hit one of my little fawns,
and I'm I wish I could find out who that was.
But anyway, we'll see y'all next week, all right, se
y'all
Welcome to the Town Outdoors Show. I'm Charlie, I'm j D.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Easy with that, I'm Fred.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
That's a that's a joke that nobody gets but the
ones in the room. And we're not going to discuss
why it's funny to some people in the room. I
personally am offended.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It was a funny.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You never know, you maybe one of us is fighting
that issue. You know. I stuttered as a kid. I
was pretty bad stuttered, not like crazy, but a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Good to be back from Virginia.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Where were you at?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I was in Virginia. Uh, last week my cousin's wedding.
He married a nice girl. A managed to mess up
their wedding.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And I watched one of the video you sent us
that somebody filmed. Well, they had you because you were
too busy banging on a cow bell there.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh yeah. They had a dance thing going on in
Musicians and DJ one night, and somebody handed me at
cow bell.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
And the nice girl's family was going, who is that
guy and who invited him? And do we have to
have him at family events?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And you did your dance. The world needs more cowbell
than the world.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I had a fever and the only prescription was more cowbell.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'm surprised you didn't get up and grab a guitar
and start singing some of your off brand.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
They well, they asked me if I could be dancing.
I said, I don't know, you have a microphone, and
they're like nope. So a nice trip, nice and cool
up there. This is around Johnson City, Tennessee. Took an
opportunity to ride a bike on the Virginia Creeper Trail.
There were fit right in yeah creeper uh. And the
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wife and I got there to the bike rental place
and they had had one E bike left and regular bike,
so I took the e bank.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Of course, did you get to bring a rope to
tide to your wife's bike so you could tow her
along and she wouldn't have to pedal as hard?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Now? I made her pedal okay, and it probably went
I think thirteen miles on the trail didn't take us
very long. A lot of downhill. There a few little inclines,
but mostly downhill. Went through the rolling hills to rock ledges,
you know. In between rock ledges had big old snake
(02:29):
on the road and I stopped playing with him for
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, what kind of snake was it?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
He was a garter, a black garter snake, which you
don't see her out here, but he was probably three
and a half four feet long.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I saw I saw a video on Instagram sometime this week.
So idiot down in South Florida tried to pick up
and pet a copper or a cotton mouth. That did
not work all well out for her at all. It
did not work out all that well. She had very gossile,
showed her in, showed her in the hospital, you know,
before and after with her hands swoll up bout sides
(03:03):
of a softball. Well, yeah, and they're they're very, very
venomous and they're not friendly. Pick up the nice copper mouth.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
A cotton You can shoot a cotton mouth and it
will be dead, but it ain't dead.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Crawl off.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
We went out uh the Parkway one night when I
was still at the Shriff's office, and somebody was like, hey,
we got to wear a snake call at a lady's house.
And it's a little little subdivision there next to the
military cemetery and all this little you know, houses right
up next to each other, and they have little privacy
fences in the back and she had a water boks
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in her backyard and cotton, so I, you know, went
They were like, well, we can we just shoot it.
It's under her back porch. I get my shotgun and
shoot it. And I'm like, no, you can't shoot under
her back porch with a shotgun.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
In it and buckshot.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, that's all. You can't do that. And I was
up near the sheriff's office and I said, well, hang on,
I've got a I have personally have a suppressed twenty
two pistol that I will bring out there. That's the
one that got me in trouble on time, and I
will bring that out there. And now it was a
(04:20):
different one. I forget anyway, I'm gonna bring this thing
out there and I'm gonna shoot shoot the thing with
the little twenty two. And so I got out there
and it was up under her deck, and I said,
you know, the boards are wide enough to accommodate a
twenty two caliber bullet. So I got up there and
put the bullet right down to the deck and I
shot it through the gap in the deck, which is
(04:44):
an awesome shot. I might add. They were adding getting
some light at an angle and I shot it and
hit it, and I reached up in there. She had
one of those hummingbird feeders, a little black rod that's
got the s uk on the end of it. I
took the hummingbird feeder off of it, reached up there,
and I drug it out there, and it wasn't moving.
Normally snakes are kind of squirm around a little bit.
It was not moving. Well, I was wearing. I was like, man,
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this thing's huge. Let me look at this. So I
put my foot next to it, in my dinner size
thirteen dinner boot next to it, and I took a
picture of my foot next to that snake. Then we
got a call where a deputy was getting her rear
and handed to her and there was anyway, shots fire,
all kinds of crazy stuff happened. So I jumped in
the car and I'm hauling tailed at the far side
(05:29):
of the county and on a little while later, the
deputy calls me back, says, hey, this this snake came
back to life, and I had to shoot it with
a shotgun with buck shot. I'm like with buckshot, and
I'm like, what on earth. Well, it turns out apparently
(05:50):
a twenty two caliber bullet right through the middle of
that snake skull. Did not kill it properly. And we've
seen it out here where you shoot it, you shoot
a cotton mow and you think it's dead, and come
back a little while later that sucker is gone. Now
it may not have crawled off far, who knows, maybe
a bird guide. But those things, I've seen them get
up and come after you. And people go, oh, they're
not aggressive snakes. Well they might not be if you
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leave them alone, if you don't ever mess with them.
But if you go to messing with them.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Try picking one up. See what happens.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Apparently it will buy that thing. I'll bite you.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Of them.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So yeah, Nie Tripp, great great park. Congratulations my cousin. Yeah.
And I had fun up there. Didn't think I would be,
but it did.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
There's a lot of a lot of parts of Virginia
are just absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
They did a great job. And this is Abington, Virginia.
Abington has done a great job of preserving their history.
Lots of old eighteen pre Civil War stuff there. They
even had a marker for the Stonewall Jackson Colleges of Women.
I didn't know they had one of those. But apparently
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stone Wall was popular with the ladies, and you would
like him for one reason.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know, he was an educator, so there's that he
taught a vm I. Oh yeah, he did not know
that his cannons, his four favorite cannons are sitting out
on the prey ground at vm I to this day. Matthew, Mark, Luke,
and John they're sitting on the prey grounds at m
I taught engineering.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
There. You still have the picture of that cotton man.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, there's a picture that's pretty good. They don't normally
get over that's a vegan there.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Well, that's my size. That's my size, thirteen.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Foot four or five foot and cotton mouse normally don't.
I ain't. You don't really rarely see them over about
four feet.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, that's amazing technology right there. I just went to
my Google photos and said and AI things said, fine
photos of snakes and my pictures, which there won't be
many because I don't like snakes. If you did love
and behold it's that was October tenth of twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Really found that quick.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That wasn't too long ago. I guess it was.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You know, today's a scroll in his rolling and throwing.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I usually do. I got THI in the pictures I want,
well me too, particular one it's like.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Type in their Largemouth bass and see.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And there's a picture of my wife holding a rattlesnake
scrolling on a phone like, ain't nothing to it? That
a life, Well, technically it's dead at that point in
time because uh yeah, my wife she snakes, don't scare.
But when she goes out and there's one on the
back porch, guess who's going to move it?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It ain't her.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's kind of like I when we're teaching classes, I
like I talked about, well, you know, situation awareness. You're
sitting there and you're saying, I use example, you're sitting
in your recliner at night and you hear something go
crash on the back porch. We talk about freeze, fight,
flight or you know, face fight anyway, so you and
I said, you know it's and you hear that crash,
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the first thing you do is you freeze. You pause
because you're trying to figure out what it was, trying
to justify what was the noise. You know what, when
my dogs aren't barking, that just all these things you're
going through your head. And I said, it's so, what
do you do? Do you get up and do you
flee to the back room and then call down one
one or do you go face it and see what
the deal is and then it Ultimately, if you can't
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posture and they don't submit, then you know you may
have to fight. I said, around my house, I know
what's gonna happen. When something crashes outside. I'm gonna get
up and go face it because my wife is gonna
be sitting there and she's gonna tell me, Hey, go
see what that is. So I know what mine is.
Mine's mine's to pretend I didn't hear it. And then
once he gets my attention, I get my happy tail
(09:33):
up and I walk outside and see.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
What it was. If it's a snake, you freeze.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Now I'll turn it. Well, you said we turn the
dogs out, but you know the dogs that just run
past one because they've got that snake avoidant stuff, so.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
They don't they don't snake avoidance.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah, oh yeah, we'll tell you.
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Quilt forever there.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
They posed they host the classes. We've had them out here.
Give them a place they I think they did one
out here, so.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
You put it. They'll put a non venomous snake on
the ground that they can catch but they'll take it
and they'll put a rattlesnake and then they'll put like
a cotton mouth.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And I think they them, don't they.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I don't know if they do or not, but they're they.
They have them in a cage. They don't put them
out and open. They put them in a cage. And
then they put a shot collar on your dog and
they turn it all the way up and then you
you take your dog on a leash and you walk
it near the snake cage, which is the hardest thing
for me because I don't like to get in their snakes.
And uh so, and I took Rusty.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
That that is sneak that shot callar in your back pocket,
so both of you get it at the same time.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And you walk that thing by there, and if the
dog avoids the snake, then that's all it. You know,
you try to walk it by two or three times.
And if the dogs like I don't know how nothing
to do with that then, or no, doesn't pay any
interest to it, then you're fine. But when a dog
runs up there and sticks your nose in there, which
Rusty the first time he went, he was all bad,
I'm gonna run up there. And get that thing. He
ran up there and stuck his nose down there, and
they hit him with that shot. Called ain't one of
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those little pap It's like, and that dog's doing upside
down flips and turning around and all that stuff. Because
here's the thing is when a dog gets bit by
a snake, all the pain and the suffering is later,
and a dog needs for a dog to recognize that
this is a bad thing, they need immediate feedback right then.
You can't. Like you come home and the dog choose
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up your favorite fair of shoes. Then you know Fred's
high heels and all that. You know that heels messed up.
Then you then and you get on them two hours later.
That don't really work. But if you do it right then,
like you catch him doing something, especially if you can
have it remote where it's not you doing it, so
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that collar, that dog only knows that I smelled a
snake and all of a sudden, I'm in pain, so
I associate pain with that snake and you go. And
that's cruel, man, y'all. Not the shot does dogs. It's
better than that. Well, first off, it's better than a
dead dog. It's better than the pain and suffering they
go through. And it's certainly better than the thousand dollars
a shot for any better that you got like it,
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because I've had I've had to go through two rounds
of any venom on one dog and one round on
how much other dogs close close to three grand for
the two dogs that got into one snake.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I give you one better than that. I had a
friend last year, last summer bitten by a rattlesnake. Twenty
five thousand dollars a vial of antigrant an of them.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, the dogs, I think that expensive. So if you
could just get your hand.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Taking her to a vet.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, I have pet insurance on my dogs, specifically for
snake bites.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
You can buy that.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's all kinds of different versions of it.
Mine's a reimbursement deal where you go pay for it
and they'll pay you back a certain amount. It doesn't
cover like normal vet visits and shots and wormen's and stuff, but.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
It pays catastrophic health care.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
When when when Dolly, I've got Lily now is my
GSP Before that I had Dolly. Dolly got bit a
lot by snakes, so did Rusty Lily. My current girl.
She's a good girl. She doesn't mess with snakes, so
we haven't had to do a whole lot with her.
But but but, Dolly, I got to pet insurance because
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of all the anti venom and the snake bites. And
then she got uh an infection, uh fungal infection in
her gut and I ended up killing her. But all
the surgeries and stuff, I mean, it's a sad, sad thing.
And went through a couple of surgeries, different vets, really
good veterinarians good I mean veterinarians bedside manners generally a
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lot better than regular doctor's bedside and well, I mean
they're dealing with you know, they're emotionally attacked animals like
we are. And so I had some really good experiences there,
although we lost the dog, but I had pet insurance
and for the first time ever, because this is one
of the things. A lot of times people put their
animals down because they can't afford a money. It's like,
(15:04):
this is gonna cost me how much? You know, And
I've lost dogs and surgeries and stuff before. But the uh,
but the but the money always comes into play, you know,
that doesn't come in play with people, you know, we're gonna,
as Grandpa gonna make it. Well, I don't know, it's
gonna cost a lot of money if we keep him around,
so we're gonna go ahead and put him down. We
don't do that with people, but with dogs and cats
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and whatever we find, we find that that economic number,
that that we we draw the line and go. We
got to put them out of their pain and suffering.
And well with pet insurance that never never came up.
It was he said, Well, man, Charlie, this is gonna
cost I don't care. It doesn't matter because it's all
ninety percent of it's covered. I can afford to copay and.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Per dogs at a policy per dog is I.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Pay thirty dollars a month for each of my dogs.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Would have saved me.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Who's that with, Charlie? Can you mention it?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah? I will in a minute. I'll come back to it.
I have to look it up there.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
That's cool, I mean, that's there's a lot of people. Well,
if I lost this gut, I want to check into that.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You should.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So much as I take it.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well, I think if you go to a veterinarian and
you get pet insurance and you just change your name
to rover. You know, it might save you some money.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
You gotta say, Fred, you're gonna go by a daisy
or it's gonna go about Fidoh maybe spoke.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I don't think I reinstalled app on my phone. I'll
have to. I'll have to. I'll have to research it.
But there's a bunch of them out there that are
and you just have to look. Okay, is this one
that covers routine visits. It's kind of like health insurance.
You know, you just pick a tear.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
And yeah, I like that catastrophic than me something not
steak back there you go.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's well, if you're paying thirty dollars a month over
the course of a year, what's that three sixty three
hundred and six dollars a year to take your dog
to the vet and get one viol anivenoms gonna run
you between eight hundred and one thousand dollars, especially if
you go to on it. It never happened during the
middle of the day. It always happens on the weekend
or after hours. You have to go one of these
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pat hospitals in and so then it gets real expensation.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
In your case, you got the farm up there and
they're running around on the farm, and sure plenty of places.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
For there's poisonous snakes out there. And if your dog
you're gonna mess with this.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Time of year, I tell you this.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Dry as it's been waters around your area, JD. As
dry as it's been.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, it's a weird. It's a weird thing considering I live,
you know, less than one hundred yards from the from
the bank of the lake Ammonia, right. We rarely see
snakes at all, and if I do, I've had a few,
like white eak snakes and stuff in the yard. Never
had a poison to snake in the yard. Never had
a gator in the yard. I've seen them cross the
road between me and Deer Lake. I've seen gators walk
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across the road. Never have one up in the yard.
But I do when I open the front door at
night to go out and let the dog out of whatever,
I do, look around real careful before I go to
walking around, because it's it's prime habitat for one. But
just don't see them there. Don't get mosquitoes bad. That's
the other thing, you know, you think we'd get toted
off is living that close to the lake, but further
inland in claren Lakes, like where my mom lives on
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the other side of the neighborhood. Man, you can't go
out after dark. The skit is a tote you off
my house.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It's like they fly over and go somewhere else. I
don't know. I'm okay with.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It because there's no behaeagrashs there. That's probably what it is.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, maybe I don't know. So none in my yard.
None in my yard. I'd dig it up.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Forgot the Miami game coming up this weekend?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yes, yeah, today today, today, would beget this evening?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Well, yeah, of course ESPN. I guess they're not having
game day at this I guess because that's probably because
we throw eggs at Herb Street. Maybe. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't know what. I gotta believe. I could be wrong,
but I gotta believe more people are going to watch
the FSU Miami game than they are the Vanderbilt Alabama game,
which is where they are having the game day. But
we always of course, you know, Vanderbilt Vanderbilt be Alabama
last year, so that's yeah, makes it a little more interesting. Maybe,
of course, you know, they're a bunch of elitists at
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that school. Yeah, which one.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Good point. What is it Vanderbilt?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
What is the Commodoores?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah, the Commodores of course, you know, and they stand
up there instead of you know, old tied or whatever.
They repel them, repel them, make them relinquish the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I mean, was that the IVY League in the Ivy
League version of the SEC. Yeah, instead of go a
woo pig.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, that's what they are.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Repel them, repel them.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So of course, I you know, with the with the
Miami fans in town, there's there's likely.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You're gonna you're gonna probably get some work out of this.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
So you open twenty four seven this week?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's uh and the just two two
two four thousand and five, it's on twenty four to seven.
They'll hook you up with me. Of course. There's there's
some new laws in effect now.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah. So used to be if if if you if
it was your first offense driving under the influence, and
you got opportunity or so, what happens is they arrest
you for driving under the influence, if they have problem calls,
take you down to the jail. In most cases, some
some officers have breathalyzer tests in the cars. Most of
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the officers are going to take you to the jail
and ask you to take a breath test. And used
to be you could say Nope, not going to take that.
They'd threaten you with a license suspension. Then they just
take your license from it and take your license. But
you can get a hardship permit, you know, almost immediately if.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
That has to drive for work, that's the hardship.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Drive for business purposes, the church, doctor, work, pretty much
anything except for recreational purposes.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Can't pull the boat to the lake, well, he could.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Because that would be for work. So I actually got
a guy off one time once. I wouldn't recommend this,
but he had gone to Lanark caught a couple of
red fish for dinner, and I was like, well, you
know he had to eat for him. That that worked
in Franklin County.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You know, I'll be not Tallahassee.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Maybe the best solution is don't drink and drive.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's probably the best one.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That's absolutely a fool proof way not to go to
jail for DUI.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
So now the law has changed and the officer can
now tell you if you don't take a breath test.
I'm gonna charge you with a misdemeanor refusal to take
the bread test.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
It sounds like a lot of violations.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
To me. It does, it does now. It has long
been a crime for the second refusal, but now it's
if you refuse the the first time, it's a misdemeanor. Now,
if they charge you with a refusal to take the
bread test, the penalty for that is not near what
it is for a DUI conviction. So DUI conviction cares
(21:58):
with it all kinds of mandatory penalties, including a conviction
that stays on your record for the rest of your life.
This does not does not Now that you know judge
might give you.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
A penalty, might still get the d u I too.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
You might still get the du I. You can still
get convicted of the DUI no breakfast, Yes, with no
break you can still get convicted for du I. If
you take a breath desk and blow under the legal one,
you can highly unlikely if I'm your lawyer, but.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I don't know, I might take you up on that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I might beat you on that.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Free you never know.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I convince allan I'm convincing in front of the jury.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Even nice guys can be crossings.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
N just call me and go. Will you take a pleat?
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, I don't want to get to court. We'll be back.
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We are catching our streaming audience in this thing. So
Fred do you go? Will you go to Marianna and
do a dui?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah? You will with judge Mercer are usually charged a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
More, but I mean travel involved. So the travel expense there.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
It's it's what is a journey in that courtroom?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
M hmmm. I don't comment on anything related to the
judicial system in my home county.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I just put it this way. I wouldn't get caught
do anything wrong in Jackson County. That's that's not a
good place to get caught. We not as bad as
Marion County. Now, Marion County, I mean, don't even if
you're driving through America, you know, make sure you fill
up before you get to that county line. Don't stop,
drive the speed limit, all that speed limit, keep going
(24:29):
and just get out of there.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Where's Marion County?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, well I try not to go that. That's about
as far as I like to go. I've got to
drive this weekend. I'm going to Jupiter.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Beach through Marion County.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I think, yeah, but I'm driving a Mark Jackson County
Sheriff's Office vehicle.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Should you should be fine?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
They got a they got a one ton truck there.
I'm going to pick up some stuff for a vehicle
that the agency is acquiring, and I'm going to get
to peripheral stuff, which is gonna be a lot of fun.
It got down to meet with one of their tactical
guys and hang out and talk and grab some stuff
and come back.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
But ham wrapping Jackson County. Yeah, okay, fifty cow.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
No, none of that stuff. None of that stuff. It's
it's it's uh, it's there. There's a reason for everything,
and I'll just leave it at that. But he's going
to dist watching soccer.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
That's when what is my life in tail? Watching soccer,
watching watching girls little you know, teenage girls play soccer.
That's that's that's that's my life.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You know, you your daughter's coming here once in a
blue moon, and when they come in, I'm like, who
is it. Oh my god, she's grown up. Yeah they
have grown up. Yeah, yeah, it's a one mine has
to you know. It's it's I look at my son
every now and then and I like, where did he
come from? He's like a he I mean like a
little fella. It's like a little fella. Yeah, he walks around.
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I'm like, where'd you When did you get so tall?
I looked over there one day and he was taller
than my wife, which is not much of a challenge,
but you know, I'm like, when did you get almost
a head hired? And she is, Yeah, I don't think
he's gonna be as tall as me.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
So you're not gonna be able to go to the
beach or any of that, or No, he was gonna
watch soccer.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Hat two games on Saturday evening and one game on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
That's a lot of sow come home here.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, there's soccer tournaments.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
So what are you gonna do it meantime?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
What's that you go out in between?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
In between soccer games. Uh, probably sitting under to ten
or get something to eat or whatever. Try to watch
the ball game in between or while while the soccer
games going on. Have my I have my tablet or
my phone watching the watching the football games.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
To take the van and then set up the internet
and stream and.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Watch it on the I actually thought about that that
would be.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
That would be like I have the Dad soccer.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
So if you're if you're out there, if you're out
there in radio land and you are interested in a
what do we have a twenty fourteen Mercedes.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Limo Vans Sprinter Limos Sprinters.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It is set up like a three liter diesel that
runs like a top and got.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Three TVs in it, Internet solid, a microwave, a refrigerator,
drawer in the back, set up with Limos chairs in it,
and a fold down bench in the back. Bench seat
turns into a bed and I only got like fits
something thousand miles on it. We've got it listed for
sale on Facebook Marketplace. Anybody's interested.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
We bought it, we went, it's been to South Dakota
back and whatever else. But I don't know. Last year
we dreve the trucks because of the dogs.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So well, I thought when we got it we were
going to get to listen to fred Tale tell lies
and stories guitar.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Back, and we have to we have to look at
each other the whole way.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
So, I mean, there's a certain judge that I have
to take care of.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
We won't get into that. Yeah, the people who attend
with us that is that is client this privileged client information.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
It is for good reason.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
That's a man I hate when in that trip this year, that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Really really really absolutely killing me.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That was like a gut punch right there.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Really was looking forward to that for a year. I
guess I got to know the year to look forward
to it.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Well, let's look forward twice it. We'll be twice as
ready for it when it rolls back around. It's just
I don't know, Man's that's one of the annual things, right,
I don't figure. I want to live so many years.
I want to make sure I get to go as
often as I can.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I want to see Maslena for she goes to prison.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Oh, Jess, we'll be back in just a minute.
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Speaker 2 (29:40):
What I'm probably not gonna be able to participate in
this segment. They got the higgops.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
You got to higgus.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
There?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
What kind of what what are you putting on? Now?
This is radio Fred.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
You got Fridy for radio shut down.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You look like the cred has just put on a
glue on mustache. Are you gonna go? Are you gonna
go to a court on Halloween as an illegal immigrant
and undocumented workers? That what you're gonna go as?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I'm trying to look like Hai Keen, Jeffreys and Chuck.
She a pretty good job, I think, so.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
I mean, well, I just got a picture of you,
So congratulations you become the thumbnail for this week.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So speaking of government shutdowns, well, yeah, so Silencer Shop
the quit I probably won't get through this as it
is without hiccupping.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So the Silencer Shop is a company that we used.
Process Suppressers sent sent out a notice to all the
dealers this morning, the government shut down update Forms three,
Forms one in form four. So A Form three is
the dealer to dealer transfer of suppressors or n FA items.
Form one is the authorization to manufacture your own NFA
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item that's suppressor's short barrel rifle, and A one four
is the transfer from dealer to individual. They can be submitted,
but the A t F processing is paused, which means
that the the E form is gonna stay active. Submission
would be saved, but no processing until the examiners return
(31:16):
to work, so they have been there. Not essential as
a non essential government shut down is the people that
process those uh, those particular forms.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
So I got to wear this mustache and sombrero until
they fix the silencers.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Well that you can still do everything right now, and
when the when the shutdown is over, when they when
they work their their differences out up there in Washington,
d C. All this will be moot point, but it'll
go back and it could happen.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Any until a month later when they have to probably
do it again.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
They're gonna kick the can down the road for one
more one more month, and then come back and kick
it down the road again. And instead of them doing
their job and it's just anyway, just another yet another inconvenient,
they'll capitulate. I don't know, it doesn't matter. It's just
do your job, do your job and get us a
you know, fix the budget situation and we don't need
(32:09):
any more debt and whatever else.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
So as a country, well it's not I don't care
which administration is in office. Our national debt keeps climbing
and climbing and climb. Deficit spending is in there, and
you can go study economics. Just most of what I
studied in college is economics. And you talking about how
deficit spending is good for the economy and that the
government plays a role in the GDP. Blah blah blah
(32:33):
blah blah. Well, I mean that's like saying, yeah, you
can live in a nicer house, you just got to
borrow more money. And it's it's. You know, when I
was watching this was a John Stossel, the video he
put out about everybody's screaming about this generation can't afford houses.
Do you see what houses are now versus like the
houses that we grew up in. It's not the same houses.
(32:55):
You can't just go by like a starter house, you know.
And if it is, it's like a little townhouse or something,
it's it's And then they talk about the cost of living.
You look at the standard of living that people try
to maintain now versus the standard of living we had
back then. How how how often did your family go
out to eat? Back then, you went home, you you
(33:16):
didn't go out. Now how often do people go out
to dinner? And then you have to tip? You know,
on top of all that, you know, everything is way
more expensive. The standard living we're trying to maintain a
standard living that is way too high. Somebody who can't
afford to put gas in their cars stopping at Starbucks
for a nice latte or some crap, and they and
(33:38):
they're like, I can't put gas in my vehicle, but
I got it twelve dollars coffee.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Like you were saying, Charlie, you drive sometimes, drive to
your car that gets great gas mileage or your cut
just just you don't have to because you can't afford it.
You do it because it makes sense, it makes financial sense. Yeah,
so I bought a little car I got makes financial well.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
We have we have it at this point in our lives.
We have the luxury at one of having a little
bit of wisdom, a little bit and a little bit
of wisdom because financial wisdom and little life experiences and stuff.
And then you, Okay, if I buy something new or nice,
I know based on all of my other expenses that
this is okay for me to do this. Maybe it's
not the smart thing. If I'm trying to invest money,
(34:15):
Should I go buy a new car or should I
keep the one I have and pay it off and
then put the money I would be making on a
payment into some sort of investment account and investing money. Yeah, absolutely,
I should do that if I need that. So it's
a matter of setting your priorities. But unfortunately, a lot
of the younger people, and granted this is a lot
of your generation as well, that you see the struggle
(34:37):
right at the same time. Back in our day, it
was dinner at home. You came home when the street
lights came on, and you went home and you ate,
and there was there was somebody was cooking. And the
cars were very basic cars that didn't have all.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Had one good one. You might have one.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Half of them didn't have air conditioning, most of them
didn't have any were to wind this road down, They weren't.
They weren't as significant a portion of your income as
what a new car is. Now Now you can buy
affordable vehicles.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Right, So even even in I've talked with my friends
about this, and I when I when I share with
friends around my age about the status of life that
I'm in. So I'm under thirty, married with two kids,
and totally debt free, and I'm trapped. I can't I
can't get into that next level of home purchasing cause
(35:33):
just simply trying to get through any any kind of
savings building up over time. It's it's nearly impossible to
break through out of my current home to say, like
as our families expanding want to get a bigger property,
bigger home just for normal space purposes. It's like, where
(35:53):
the the neighborhood that I grew up in? I can't
even go back into, right It's it's out of my
price range. Andrew Straights are you know, too high. I'm
in essence trapped because I have a really good interest
rate right now. We rEFInd a few years ago and
I got in just like at the very I was
the very like last and so now homes in the
(36:17):
literally the area that I grew up in here in town.
I'm like, can I even go back and buy a
home in my own home neighborhood? It's really hard. And
I'm like, probably the one percent of all zoomers, like
no debt, right for your no debt, have a job, wife,
(36:38):
two kids, no loan, no student loans, absolutely not the mortgage.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
And even then I feel like I'm kind of the
top one percent of all zoomers. And even then, I'm like,
I can't imagine if you're like a young guy who
maybe had some some challenges and then you correct your
life over time as you age. I can't imagine how
hard it would be for them. And I'm thankful that
I've had lots of family that has taught me wonderful
(37:05):
things about how to manage money, about how to you know,
manage the home, all those things, be wise with all
those things. And even then it's just like, I don't know.
I don't know how I'm going to break through.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I don't I couldn't afford the house I live in now.
I mean, I if I wanted to buy my house, yeah,
because it would be it'd.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Just double since you bought it. Probably if you if
you've lived there more than ten years. I've lived there
for twenty five, yeah, so it's probably quadruple since you
couldn't you bought. I mean, it's I know, you know,
living in claren Lakes like I do. The crazy what
home prices going to for what used to be starter homes?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah, usually used to be at a starter own for
you know, eighteen hundred square feet Yeah yeah, that that
home now half million dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, It's it's insane.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
And the interest rates on top of that is uh
you know that in the mixture that so your your
monthly your monthly payment becomes or something like, yeah, it's
pushing to it's gonna be pushing two thousand dollars. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
It's like with me, I moved out of Tallahassee, Lean
County and moved to family land. But it's expensive family land.
But I got out of this market to go somewhere else.
And so one of the ways is to give up
the conveniences of having a public sent every other syear
the corner and move into a community doesn't have.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
One, don't touch your neighbor through the window.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
But you're also giving up not only that nuturally, you're
also given up like why why I left Gasden County
as a teenager. There was no way to There's no
money to earn over, there was no jobs that earned
a lot of money. You don't have to worry to drive,
you don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Well, my nephew drives from Marianna all the way across
town to Costco at the wee hours of the morning,
long before daylight, every day in order.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
To because that's where he has to make a good living.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Proud of it makes a good living. But he drives
every single day, drives an hour one way, an hour back.
And there are so many people in my community. It's
just basically a bedroom community for Panama City, for Dothan,
or to Tallahassee. But it is a little less expensive
to live there. Your food costs the same, your gas
is gonna cost a little bit more, but you can
buy a little bit nicer house. There's not a big
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housing surplus there at all. It's hard to find one,
and everybody complains when to build a new subdivision. So anyway,
we'll be back in just a minute.
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See and nobody. We're talking about housing. When we left
and I told my wife how long ago, I said,
if it were, if I were left to my own devices,
I'd still live on this farm. But there would be
three or four shipping containers out here, bolted together in
a compound with some with some watchtowers on. I take
the twenty foot ones and I put them on the
corners diagonal, and I'd make me a square out of
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the rest of them, and I'd have you know a little.
It would be set up like an old school fort
back in the day, except that.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Like one of those chippings, you know, like they had.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
And oh yeah, I don't think I wouldn't if if
I was a single man and didn't have that, I
promise you, uh I would. It would be a winter
long project. It would be a buried one too, with
concrete around it. You can't bury those but dirt on
expect from the hold up because you're not that sturdy.
But if you bury and use it as a platform
to pour concrete around and work just fine. And uh yeah,
yeah I do that. I don't think I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
The one where he had the guy right around on
the semi and he had to do the road yeah,
road war.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yes, well it started out with the bad Max and yeah,
post apocalyptic Charlie, that's that's him.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I'd be the guy with the bad teeth flying around
on a little helicopter.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, so I where they got all of the NITROSX
side for the vehicles and post apocalyptic world. I mean
I always wondered that they were having a hard time
with food and water, but he had nitrous.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, he had a on his car. He had a
supercharger on his car that just like the one Chuck
Norris had in Lone Wolf McQuaid, which don't exist. By
the way where you can grab the handle and pull
the handle up and all of a sudden crank the
supercharger up. Anyway, superchargers work on an engine. They have
to run. They run all the time. Yeah, you don't
just turn it on and off anyway.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Artistic license with this, yeah, yeah, anyway, So what's going
on in the fishing world.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I brought some baits that they are biting this fall.
The fall bite is on for sure.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
It's the water temperature.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Seventy eight seventy nine. It's come down five or six
degrees correctly. But there's been some baits that's really been
working good. I want to try to do what Charlie
says to explained this on. This is a lipless crank
bait rattle trap. So the rattle traps are working now, yes,
very good. And when you just throw it out and
really and it vibrates it up and man, that has
(43:02):
been catching some fish right there. This will this will
continue to work probably into November through November. It works
really good again in the spring. That's really been working
good also right now. A crank bait. This is a
square bill crank bait. It runs about four to five
foot deep. And you notice everything is a shad color.
I'm want to show that up there on the YouTube
(43:22):
speak to see it. But that's that's been working. It's
got a little bit more subtle not to it.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Okay, that's been working good.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Any any shad color right now is working real good.
And then jerk baits, these have been working good. Now
I want you like this, Fred, this is a jerk bait.
You want to you want to get the wh just
when it's a jerk jerk pause and that pause when
you get a jerky in, that's when you're lying something
(43:50):
off that. That's that's a rapalla x rap very good bait.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Right.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
So it sits in the water on the top.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Of you rill it under the water and it suspends.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
And so you palls and there and then continue reeling.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
No, let it pause.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
How long are your paws?
Speaker 4 (44:08):
I like to count about ten. Somewhere between one and ten.
They're gonna bite and then you they'll continue to bite
that where were that? So you throw it out, reel down,
reel down, let it pause, jerk your then jerk your rod,
jerk it on the sideline, pop it and throw your
rod back to it your tip.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Okay, and let it sit there and just let it
pau and it'll sit.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
There suspended in the water.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
So they're gonna bite when it pauses.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Most of the time, right when you first start the
first jerk, it'll hit it on that fast. That's right,
that's right.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yeah, But that's that's the basis. Really been working good.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
As we we get some cloudy days, like we're supposed
to be having some rain coming in this weekend, then
use buzzdays will start, you know that buzz bait by
the turn on. They're really feeding right now, and it
seems to me like.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
They know something we don't, like we gonna have an
early winter.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, it seems like the yellow
butterflies heading south in September way sooner than it. And
I was going to ask Charlie, is he noticing things
on his farm that are different for fall?
Speaker 3 (45:10):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (45:10):
Then last year just seems to me like everything's I
just saw a bunch of dagmar pelicans. It ain't see
I ain't never seen that this time of year.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Well, I'm noticing there's a lot of butterflies and stuff
right now, but it's this this harvest season I'm looking
more at green stuff growing. I don't really pay much
attention to.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I know, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, my granddaddy
always would uh talk about the yellow butterflies. And I
don't know what the name of them, the scientific name,
but that was always an indicator when you started seeing
those yellow butterflies, the solid yellow, bright yellow butterflies. When
you started seeing those show up, that's when the red
fish and trout would start heading towards the creeks. And
(45:51):
that's when the the you'd start seeing dove and the
quail be covered up, and you the bass would start
feeding for schooling up, feeding for feeding up for a
winter and all that was always an indicator of of
a weather and unimpending weather change, a more permanent weather change,
not just a system coming through or whatever. That was
always an indicator of fall and winter time are coming right,
(46:15):
and and yeah, and there's it's just like you were
talking about with the may flies this year, them them
stay in active and the brim bedding through the sa.
I'm sure there's a biologist out there that can explain
what all that stuff is. But people that live outdoor
lifestyles like like we do. If you pay attention. Nature
will tell you. It'll it will show you things. It
(46:35):
will tell you things, and you pay attention to it.
And I know, I don't know how much truth there is,
but I know my granddaddy in the in the spring
would when he was picking corn, we would corn and
get ready to pick for us to eat, you know,
not not for the cows to eat. But he'd look
at how much husk was on the on the corn,
you know, how much? Uh, And he goes, it's gonna
(46:57):
be a big winter. We don't have a big winter
this year, because there'll be right, that would be more
husk on the corn than their normal than than normal,
you know. And and a lot of times he was
absolutely was right, you know.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
And that that's kind of stuff you don't learn in school.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yes, that is creative, that is you don't And that's
that's an education that a lot of kids nowadays completely
miss out on, and probably a lot of people my
age missed out on it. I just happened to have
been raised by really old you know. My grandparents were
born in turn of the century, and I got some
I got some old school school and from from both
of my granddaddies.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
You know, I was coming in today and seeing the
you know, the com trails in the sky, how they're expanding,
and I'm like, didn't go this morning? You mean the
trail we called kim trail. I bet they are biting today. Yeah,
I've not seen that in three or four days.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
What were you going to say, grand I was just
gonna say.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
I can remember hearing my grandfather tell stories about how
when he would have interactions with the professors that would
teach teach at the ag schools you know, in the
area or whatever, and he would just come back and say,
these guys don't know what they're talking about. They don't
know anything about how the land works. And to exactly
(48:10):
your point, more times than not, you know, when my
grandfather or other grandfather would say, my knee hurts, there's
a system out west.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
He was gonna begainst rain a few days. Right, I'll
tell you this, and I'll believe this until the day
the Good Lord calls me home. If you are on
your way fishing and you ride by a cow pasture
and the cows are laying down in the field, you
might as well just turn around and go back to
the house. That's true, am I wrong. I mean, it's
just and it's one of those things that's just that
(48:41):
that means there's they're not feeding right now, and you know,
deer hunting, it's it's important to me on the way
deer hunting to watch the sides of the road early
in the morning you're going out deer hunting. If you're
seeing a bunch of deer moving on your way to hunting,
you're probably gonna have a good day in the in
the tree stand and see a lot of deer. You
may not see the deer you want to shoot, or
(49:01):
you may not. You know, whether or not you shoot
the deer is irrelevant to me.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Have cameras out yet at your you are they sending
you are.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
I'm seeing right at daylight. I've seen a lot of
a lot of activity right at daylight and right at dark,
just before dark still and then about two o'clock in
the morning. I'm getting a whole lot between midnight and
two in the morning and a lot of activity. Now
I keep five cameras running around.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
I've been having deer coming there out there just morning
at four thirty and they're just they're eating acorns. The
acorns finally starting to fall and that's what they've been eating.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
What it seems like last year we had a real
heavy acorn crop.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
I think that's real rain dependent. I think that's more rain.
That's more rain. We had a pretty weir drought, right,
but we had a really wet summer last year, and
I think we've had a really dry couple of months
at least. But yeah, I mean that's and you know,
you get this time of year, you get front starting
to get fronts moving through, and the wind just will
pick up out all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
(49:58):
and you'll and you'll and that'll like a lot of
acorns on the ground, and that will trigger deer to
get up and feed or whatever. You know, that's what
you're doing when you when you sling corn in a feeder,
you're simulating of yourn acorn fall. You know, they like
the corn and the acorns.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
And it would say to me, if you have a
heavy acorn crop, you're gonna get less movement from the deer.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yeah, they don't have to work as hard to get
something deep.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
You know, you've got, you've got. So I'm thinking that
maybe with less acorns this year, you got more movement.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, it's quite possible. I mean, I know that deer.
If deer have a choice between acorns on the ground
and corn on the ground in a food plot or something,
they will choose the acorns.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
Every time I could tell you will stay on the
golf course. You know, I played after work there.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Don't care more deer.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
I saw more.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
I hit one with the real fall.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
Yeah, I yelled for then, and uh.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
We got We got home late last night and I
think I had I had seven and laying down in
the front yard last night when I got home in
my front yard, they were. They sleep in my front
yard pretty regular. I've seen as many as twelve or thirteen.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
But we've seen more road kill on the highway in
front of the.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
I put a little corn out for him at the house.
Somebody's speeding through my neighborhood hit one of my little fawns,
and I'm I wish I could find out who that was.
But anyway, we'll see y'all next week, all right, se
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