Ep. 434: The Glock Controversy

In Ep. 434 of The Talon Outdoors Show, Fred is gone on a fishing trip but the show continues! Today the guys discuss the news this week (and a lot of it is FAKE NEWS) about some Glock lines being discontinued... or are they? Glock has been involved in a lawsuit, but don't worry, the guys dispel the myths! 

All that and more! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the town Outdoor Show. I'm Charlie, I'm j D.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Captain Paul Tyrer, and I'm Grant.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Where's Fred.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
He's on the Colorado River.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
He's fishing. Then he's fishing in Colorado. Yeah, what's pretty
traud he caught?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, I went down to summer he said, he went
down rapids to uh, second class rapids.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I guess that's.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Class two's Class two's second class. That's like the white
trash rappids. Man, I'm going down the first class right,
Well you do you don't rate those? You can you
can do the second class rapids.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
I have not been down to Colorado. I have been
down the Snake River. I never know in area one.
I did see some moose so on the Snake River.
Uh No, I hadn't been on that one. I've been.
Uh we did, uh we want the couple of years
ago went down to Costa Rica and went, I tell

(00:59):
you that, the the bus ride to the start of
the boat ride, the brother the you know, we did
the big raft rafting some some we did some class
fours and fives. Uh turned the boat over once and
uh not on purpose? And uh yeah, I love I
love white water rafting.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's a lot of fun. But uh yeah, that was
uh that. The van ride getting to the start of
the boat ride was also extremely interested. You got this,
you got this short bus, this big van. Yeah, it
was Listen, it was a short bus. Let's just be honest.
And when we get to take paved roads up for

(01:41):
the most of it, and then all of a sudden,
you go off on a dirt road and you you
kind of start looking at the road and you go,
I don't want to slide off of that side of
the road because it's a long way to the bottom,
you know. And you get up in the mountains and
they literally had a Toyota land cruiser with a big
rope tied to the front of the short bus. And

(02:01):
then they had a toyleta land cruiser with a big
rope tied off the back bumper of the short bus.
So you're just and you're going through these mountain roads
that are not meant for h I don't know what
they were meant for, but not not not short buses
or long buses or or maybe even motorized vehicles, I
don't know. And then you all of a sudden come

(02:22):
out to this beautiful, beautiful river and go down the river.
It was. It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I can see the first guys entrepreneurs down there in
coast direct, Hey, and onto a Spanish accent on and something. Nobody. Hey,
we got to make some money, why don't we put
let's put exactly, let's put some people into some boats
and run them down up there on the on the river.
And man, ain't nobody's crazy enough to do that? No, no, no, no, no,

(02:50):
We'll bring some people in they'll do it. And uh
so how we gonna get them up there? It ain't
a road, We'll build one. Well, build a road? Was
that old donkey trail going up? Yeah? And then well,
how are we going to get them up there? Ain't
your cousin got a four wheel drive? Yes, so does
my cousin. Let's get we'll get a shot, get that ball.
That old church bus down there they got from the mission,

(03:12):
gets a rope.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
So no live. We were going through this, throwing up
this road there in Costa Rica, and all of a
sudden the guy the lead car stops and gets out,
and I'm like, I guess we're taking a bathroom break
or something. Well, we've been I mean it was it
was an hour worth of driving on this pig trail
through the jungle. When you're going through the start out,
you're going through the jungle. Well he stops and gets

(03:35):
out and he starts looking up in the trees and
I'm going, what's going on here? And it was some sloth.
There was a couple of sloths in the trees just
right off the right. I mean almost you you just
about touch them, they were that close. And they don't care.
I mean they're just being sloths. You know. It was
cool sight seeing. Wait on, we were sight seeing at
that point, but they were. They got that when the

(03:56):
guides get all excited. You know, you're going somewhere and
the guide gets excited about something. That's kind of like
going fishing with you, Paul, if you start getting looking
at that bottom machine and you start getting excited about
things catch uh huh. So uh yeah, and ma'am you
seeing just birds you've never seen eagles, just you know,
monkeys and all this kind of stuff is I.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Remember one time I went on a I guess it was.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
It was a van with a four wheel drive in
on KAUWAHIAI and we got on there a group of us,
and I was all excited.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I said, I gos, I.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Mean, just think go for world drive. And I was
challenging to take us off the Reek beaten path. And
we got to the next stop and the people that
were on there that we didn't know, they said, can
we get off here?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
That guy was going crazy on that thing. Now it
was cool.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Well, I went to Hawaii one time and we uh
we were on the island of Maui and uh for
for a wedding that we were in and my wife
and I and we rented a jeep, a Ford door wrangler,
and at the jeep rental place, the first thing the
lady said is now, you can take this anywhere on
the island you want to go, except for the road

(04:59):
to Hannah. And we're like, I looked at my wife
and we walked down there, okay, yes, ma'am, thank you,
and got the keys, walked out door. I said, Helena,
where the road to Honta is, but we're fixing to
find it, and that's exactly where we're going. She goes,
and it was so you Hannah's this little town, this
little village just kind of off in the I think
the north end of the island or something away from

(05:20):
all the touristy areas. And they got a bunch of
cows out there on the side of the mountains and stuff.
And when you get past Hannah, it goes from paved
road to dirt road and it goes all the way
around the tip of the island enthus past some volcanoes
and waterfalls and all this stuff, all the way back
down to uh Lehina. And yeah, that's first thing we did.

(05:41):
And that g was getting that thing. We're gonna go
find this dirt road. They was warning that. She's like,
it's a it's a bad road and it gets washed out,
and they're like, all right, yeah, we won't we won't
do none of that.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I'm like, you just told me, well, I thought you said.
You said lea Hannah, I said.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
I want to speak all that.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, the way the way this drought we've been under,
tell you what you can about drive over that patrical
the river.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
This was somebody's telling me yesterday.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
It's been dry. It's been dry. We went to uh
to Saint Lucia from my honeymoon, coming up on my
twenty fifth wedding anniversary. Here in a couple of weeks
and my wife's too, and so we went to Saint Lucia.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
One of the family had some time share something. We
went down there anyway, Uh, and they we're gonna go
on a tour one of those you get into one
of those pickup trucks, like a Toyota. The was not
like a lank high look. It was a big open
back and so we're up in the back and we're
watching all this stuff. Stop and drink out some spring.
I didn't, but the guide did. But I figured his

(06:42):
fortitude was wholly different than mine was. I'm gonna take
this bottle of water. And and we got up there
and they took us out. We're gonna go up here
and look at the view. And I'm like, I'm seeing
a view. As they take us up this little two
rout road up on the mountain, and he goes, oh,
we got to go up this trail, and I said,
the road, that's fine. We got up there and apparently

(07:03):
had been wet, which it gets that way in the jungle,
and they pull out there and they go, okay, well
we're gonna he's trying to back up where we can
get a picture. I'm like, dude, I see the view
and it's I mean, it's it's it's it's not good.
It's a mountain. Man. I'm good man, it's just this's
when we going back. And he pulled out there and
all of a sudden and gets this thing stuck in
two wheel drive. All right. Well then I said, it's

(07:26):
a good thing you got four wheel drive. And he
kind of looked at me and I went, you do
have four wheel drive and he goes, it doesn't work,
and in some you know accent, I'm like, I ain't
walking back. And I got pictures of us up there
in the vehicle with the view behind us, which was okay.
That was cool. After a while, they couldn't get it

(07:50):
out and they couldn't call nobody, and he had a
cell phone signals, and so that's when they learned what
it's like to have a redneck with you. And I'm like, well,
you you're you got to give it some ga as,
go what do you well, I'm I'm you know, I'm trying.
I'm trying to say, no, you got to shower down
on it, dude, You've got to get on it and
uh get that thing rocket y'all, rocket back and forth.
While he's doing it, Go get some sticks and stick

(08:11):
under the tires. And there coming back with twigs. I said, no, man,
you got to go over there and get some get
some big old logs. And we got them under there,
and I said, and it's still spinning on the tires.
I said, not all. You got to get on it.
And he just goosed the crap out of it one
time and that thing come right on out. And I said, see,
you got to give it some smart pm. Man, you
got to really get down on You got to shower
down on it. He's he's looking at me and he

(08:32):
goes and the whole way back. I was like, we're
their new best friends, you know, because they had done
figured out that.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
The next thing was as they was going to get them,
they had some rope and I was going to all
tie the sticks to the tires and then it'll pull
itself up on or done that with change and the
logs of the fence post before. Now you got to
be careful doing that. You'll tell you spinder fingers off.
But you will also on a tractor, you'll spend that
pole around change of that chain and you tie it

(09:01):
to you tire and it rolled, it'll cause it roll
up on it. I think I'll spin around and kill you.
So there is a's a balance, nack. I was doing
that at like fifteen and sixteen, so I didn't have
no sense. I wouldn't do it today. I just caught
somebody with bull those in the cable.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
That's why my hunting trucks got a wench. That's why
my side by side's got a wench. So I ain't
got the fool with all that.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Well, when you're thirty acres away from the nearest tree, yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well you bury a bury a spare tire, get you.
You gotta shovel man. Yeah, that bury that spare tire
and hooked the wench to it.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Country boy can survive and also get out of a munthole.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
I've been stuck in enough of them, that's for sure. Yeah,
somebody's telling me the river somebody I think Heath was
telling me. Heath Anam was telling me yesterday. He said, yeah,
I had a buddy went over and put into Chattahooche
and he couldn't even get to the train to the trustle.
I'm like that gun that I ain't never seen it.

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Speaker 4 (10:51):
And we'll address the glock panic. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, let's talk about the Glock debacle, the Glock, the
rumors and the Glock whatever, all things glot.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Yeah. So, so they put out a Glock put out
a release earlier in the week or or or maybe
a rumor, a rumor got out, or maybe some information
got out that it wasn't supposed to get out, and anyway,
Clock it had to do a release. But so Glock
is going to discontinue just like they have. We haven't
been able to buy Gen one's, Gen two's or Gen

(11:24):
four's for a while now, new newly produced because they
quit making them. So Glock announced that they're going to
quit making the Gen five. Well guess why, because there's
another one coming out. They're not going to They're not Glock.
And we've been like getting phone calls all week. Clock clock'stuff.
They're there there there, they're canceling production. They're going out
of business.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
All that.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
I heard, you know, various different questions this week about
it's Glock going out of business. So they're discontinuing guns
and this, that and the other. They have, in fact
discontinued a bunch of models that was several months back,
and it was just basically stuff that didn't sell. Ye,
I mean there was no commercial viability to it. It
accounted for. You know, some of these models that they

(12:05):
quit making or accounted.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
For doesn't make anymore right.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Accounted for less than three percent of their sales. So,
but there have been a couple of lawsuits from a
couple of states around the country because of these because
of folks printing parts that you can put into a
block to turn it into a full auto full auto
pistol swwitch. And that's why I get the question, what's

(12:31):
a switch? I hear to keep hearing this block switch,
clock switch. It's a it's a collection of parts that
you can We actually have some legally registered machine gun switches.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
You and I on Yeah, five got them paperwork and everything.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Got Yeah, they got serial numbers on them. They got paperwork.
We can't sell them to anybody, so don't ask uh there.
You can only go to another st dealer, and that's
only with a law letter and just they're not transferable essentially,
But we have them and they're fun to play with sometime.
But you burn up a whole bunch of spend a
whole bunch of money in a real quick hurry because

(13:06):
it'll spit out thirty three rounds in a few seconds.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
So you and I have gone to the factory and
shot a real good tea yep, and then the switch
is just sort of like, yeah, it's okay, same thing.
I mean, it's fun for somebody hadn't done it before,
but there's no real practical application for it.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
So you got you got criminals that are doing this
conversion and making them and they're having Glock has kind
of been forced into making significant changes to their firearm
design because of criminals making illegal devices that make them
full of it due to some lawsuits. They're they're trying
to get the bull by the horns and get ahead

(13:40):
of it and fix the gun to where you can't
and redesign the gun where you can.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Well, they can't go back and fix all the guns
that are out there already. The majority of the firearms
handguns in the United States are probably glocks. And they
can't go back and undo. They can't you know, unswitch them, right,
they can't do that. They can't put the guys in jail, Yeah,
they can and charge the thing is it's okay, Well,
you know, if that's going to be an issue, and
we're going to have to spend millions of dollars defending

(14:04):
ourselves in lawsuits. We'll just fix the problem and then
they won't be able to do it anymore. Then that's
what they've done, is we're gonna fix the problem. So
that V that's coming out, which is.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
The VA evolution, the V model, think of it like
this is a Gen five point five. It is a
stop gap measure that they're doing. They are going to
not initially in the in the V model. They're not
going to make the red dot ready the V that
it was called in glock languages called an ms cut.
They're not going to be doing ms CUT slides right now.

(14:36):
To start with, which is.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
The biggest concern that I've seen is that people who
because optics are a really big thing now is most
people want a gun that's capable of optic And since
they said, well, we're going to build the base model first,
so now all the MOS capable guns are gone off the.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Market except for the two most popular ms CUT which
is the Glock forty three X which is a small
carry gun and the forty eight, which is what you
and I care right, So those two guns are going
to continue because you can't. Nobody's making a switch for
those guns that we know of. If they are, they're
doing it illegally anyway. Blah blah blah. So they're not

(15:17):
discontinuing the MOS forty three x, MOS forty eight MOS.
They're going to temporarily not make the bigger guns, which
is what law enforcement tends to use. But they are
still going to make the forty seven coas. So that's
the for law enforcement gun which has.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
It's not specifically because they're making it for law enforcement,
it's just that it's not a law enforcement pistol. It's
that law enforcement's buying them so fast and they cannot
fill those orders fast enough in order to get us
any to sell statistavents. It's coming, I mean, we'll.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Be eventually down the road at some point in time
when all the law enforcement agencies get there.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Now, the five is not like a reinvention of the pistol.
It's slightly modified stuff in the pistol to keep you
from being able to put in a switch, and it
has and it has some version of a trigger upgrade,
they said, but it will not accept the glock performance
trigger just out there in the case which all the
old pistols will and it's a great trigger. It's a

(16:17):
glatter factory trigger and improves the trigger pull that it
won't the new V won't take that, but they're doing
some performance stuff to the trigger, so they say, having
held one, so it should be fine and not need
anything until the next generation contowns out, which there's rumors
all over to the internet. Now I'm sitting there watching

(16:37):
videos on it that there may be a six in
the works, and there will be. There's always gone, there
will be a seven, and then there'll be an eight,
and we may not live to see it, but probably will,
you know. But it's still gonna look like a glock.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
The V models are gonna be no price change from
what we've been told. They're not going to affect the
price at all. I suspect when the six comes out,
and I'm guessing the six is. I have seen videos
on the Internet of a chassis, a chassis system like
other manufacturers used, where the lower half of the gun

(17:10):
has a removable basically removable receiver like the Cig three
twenty has a removable receiver, so you can take the
chassis out of one Cig three to twenty grip module
and put it into a different one, a small one.
You can take it out of a compact. You can
basically turn a full sized gun into a compact or
a subcompact just because of the little group of parts.

(17:32):
I would not be surprised to see clocks Gen six
do the same thing, hopefully better than the three twenty.
The three twenty has had some issues, you know, they've
they've there's a lot of been a lot of lawsuits
and stuff over what they call uncommanded firing of the
CIG three twenty. They've been there's been a bunch of
recalls on them. There's been factory fixes on them and stuff.

(17:53):
They're still trying to get all the stack tolerances issues
worked out with that removable chassis. But if anybody can
do it well well.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Sig also says it's not an issue that's never happened.
They can't admit it because then they'd have to pay
all the people that have three points and stuff. Yeah,
and then they're gonna have to go back.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
And so there's still a bunch of legal a bunch
of legal break them. Yeah, there's a bunch of legal
cases still in the work. Some have been settled out
of court. Some have been found to be not not true.
There's been a myriad of lawsuits and problems with that
surrounding that gun since it was introduced. They can't deny that.

(18:34):
I mean, it's just it is.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
If you go back to a glock with a switch.
If if I'm and I've said this a long time,
if somebody, if I got a choice of facing a
bad guy with a fully automatic weapon versus a bad
guy with a semi automatic weapon, I will go up
against a guy with a full auto weapon because he's
going to run out of ammo, real dad gum.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Fast and probably not gonna hit money, ain't gonna hit much.
He's not what he's trying to hit.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
No. So so if you got a glock with a
switch and you bust out and I got my glock
without one, uh, you better hit me on the first book,
because all I might have to do is go boom,
boom boom, You're done. I actually train and I can aim,
and that guy with the switch is gonna be because

(19:17):
you know how fast it takes to run through a
seventeen round magazine full auto and a pistol I can shoot.
I still had a videogain you on the phone. You
know it's on a Facebook page somewhere. So yeah, I mean, granted,
people don't need to be running around with them because
it's dangerous because if they got a problem with another
thug on the street, they're shooting up their family and

(19:39):
the house next to it and everything else. But they
don't aim anyway. That's they shoot like that anyhow. That's
why you get all these innocent people shot. It's it's
uh to me. Those are terrorists. If you get if
you bust out on a street corner you just start
shooting a place up, you should be classified as a terrorist,
not a street not at such apps. Resolutely they send

(20:01):
you to go on them obay and leave you there
because that is a terrorism by its very definite definition.
All these active shooters, not active shooters, are terrorists. People
who just go out and willfully wantingly spray and pray
and shoot up places. Whether it be on a street
corner at a university, you are a terrorist. And honestly,
I think we ought to treat them the same way
they're treating all those people smuggling drugs in down there

(20:23):
in the Pacific Ocean right now, and just blow them
out of the water.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
They don't blow up eight of those, like thirty or.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Forty people now doing that. I don't know how they
know what's on them, but I reckon they forgot it
figured out. They've got technology that would.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Be willing to bet you they have boots on the
ground saying a uh, you know, bubba buba andr cranking
up the outboard with a loaded dope coming over coming
across the water.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
Right.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
There's there's either some special forces groups down there or
there are some local intel people. Of course it could
be you know, rival game.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
I think we could absolutely say Central Intelligence is in Venezuela.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Of course, absolutely they were in They were just like
they were in Columbia. And you hadda people if you
don't believe it, watched the watch the series Narcos.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I wonder how much money we're spending right now of
dark money in our coming out of our economy, and
how much of our debts going down there so we
can pay off people, so we can blow up their boats,
you know, so it can look good to it. I mean,
you know, I'm I mean, I hate to say it
that way, but we're we're spending a fortune. But I
go back to this, how much money is it worth

(21:32):
to keep our citizens safe? Now? The citizens that that
knowing lea go out and buy drugs and do this
stuff and endanger their lives, I'm less concerned about them
than I am the kids that are experimenting with weed
and getting up getting something laced with fenton, or.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
The cop on the street that's searching a car inhales
it and has to get a.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
You know, or has to get any shootout with a
drug dealer.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
I mean, there's there's tons of people that get exposed
to fentanyl that's not in intentionally ingesting anything.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, I mean I ran back in our day. You know,
you'd find crack or something if you got it in
your hand. You're holding your bare hand, going, yeah, that
looks like crack, let's test it. Obviously, we tried to
wear rob gloves. Not always you're reaching somebody's pocket and
you'd get that fentin on. Man, that's a whole new
ball game. That scares me.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Yeah. They when when when all the cops are having
to carry around the whatever you call arkam narcns praising
that kind of stuff. Just their same video.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
If we had an exposure, if we'd have had a
narcam back now, because you can take somebody that's high
as a kite and you squirt it in their nose
and they no longer high.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
And I woke up.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
We would have I mean, I had me a pocket
full of it. We'd have been going down to Frenchtown
just going hey man, hey.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
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Speaker 4 (23:45):
Sure? You gotta go to Trump headed that away, y'all?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Uh yeah, watch out, you're probably there when they're hearing it.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Yeah, well when they're hearing is I'm in Troy, but
I'm as soon as we get off this radio show,
I'm on the go, hook up to the camper, and
we're we're going to uh parents weekend, first semester, daughter's
first semester in college, going to a football game, might
go to a soccer game Friday night. I know they
got some kind of shin dig on the on the
quad tonight with some I don't know music and food

(24:13):
and all that good stuff. I'm excited. I really am
ready see me young and for one thing, Yeah, but yeah,
I'm excited about going up there and never been to
a football game at Troy, so we do that.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
My dad actually, I think, if I remember correctly, he
had an opportunity to go up and play football for
Troy when he was in the sixty whatever. He graduated
sixty two, sixty three, sixty four something like that and
went up there and went through and he's like, it
ain't from me. He was too busy playing in his
rock and roll with them. But anyway, so yeah, talk

(24:46):
about kids. And so it's my daughter, Jesse's senior year
in high school right now. And she when she got
she was a freshman. She came over from Tallahassee to Marianna,
brought her over there a little change seventh great, yeah,
and she's doesn't know anybody. She wanted the spelling bee
and wan the the spelling bee in the county spelling

(25:07):
be and all this kind of stuff. And I'm like,
you know, just kind of got a little bit of
a confidence booth, you know, a little bit of a
nerdy girl. She plays nuneons and dragons and all have
you see her profile they put on the high school
senior profile thing. It's basically described the nerd but smart
and they're the ones that make all the money. So

(25:28):
she's gonna be fine, she's beautiful girl. She she so
she she goes. She got into march. She was in
the flag Corps twirling the flags freshman year, and then
she got into playing an instrument. And I always forgets
which every one's quig Ward plays and SpongeBob the saxophone
that you know, it says clarinet. Clarinet. That's it, playing

(25:52):
the clarinet. I know. I pay for it every month.
And so she gets in and she her senior year,
she's the mark band colect the section leader. They do
all these competitions. She's falling in love with marching competitions.
And so the other day we were down in Panama
City and went down and watched her last marching band

(26:14):
competition they did. They got a new man director over
there a couple of years ago at Corn and he
is from Alabama. Came from Alabama's marching band comes down
and that band has made such progress this year, from
the beginning of the year till now. I mean, it's
just amazing. They got all these super high scores in
this competition down there, and I'm watching them come off

(26:37):
the field. They just finished. They're coming off the field.
I thought she was about to puke, and I'm like, oh.
She was boohoo, bawling, tears down her cheeks, crying. She
went down there, Fence came up there, sat in the
stands with us, and she's crying on my shoulder. Broke
my heart, broke my heart. But I finally I'm hugging her.
I said, you just go to FSU try out for

(26:59):
the and she's like, that's too much work. I need
to go to Chipole first. I'm like, oh, okay, I said,
we probably, I said, you now know how I felt
when I walked off the football field the last high
school game I played, knowing I wasn't gonna go anywhere else.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
What's that song? What's the song? Give me five more minutes?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah? Yeah, dude, I'm telling you. But I saw that
in her. Now she's got his little boyfriend. He's a
good kid, sharp kid, got a fun of hair, got
a fun of hairdo. But he's a good kid, good family.
They spend a lot of time together, obviously care about
each other and wonders why I don't like him every
time I look at that boy. You know the likelihood

(27:37):
of someone in a high school junior college relationship lasting
long term there's always heartbreak coming every time I look
at him. And I like him, I do, but every
time I look at him, I see my daughter in tears.
When this doesn't go right, I just hey, I married
my high school sweetheart. Well, you know what, He's a
good Yet I hope that works out because I don't
ever want to see her hurt like I've seen girls hurt.

(28:00):
And I just absolutely and I get around him, and
I just know I want to be nice to him
and I want to like him. But I just have
such a hard time because I see my baby girl,
a third daughter of mine, last daughter. I still got
a boy coming along. But if he gets hurt, and
that's part of growing up, get up.

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So come on, a little mom here the girl I'm
I'm a yeah, I'm fine with that. I'm hoping I
can't get past it. One of these days, he'll he'll
I do like him. Man, We'll be right back.

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Speaker 4 (29:41):
We're back, just like that I went to set tree
stand this morning. You did see nothing. I did kill
one last week though.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Man if I had on camera what you got on camera,
I don't know that. I wouldn't just stay up there.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Man, he's that dear. I showed you a picture of
He's somewhere between one hundred and forty and I don't know.
Probably you may be over one fifty. He put one
fifty one sixty. He is a monster. I just is.
It was. Uh So, my wife had to work a
bunch last weekend because of homecoming and all this stuff
going on Tallahasseee. So she ended up having a bunch
of flex time that she had to burn, and a

(30:12):
couple of days ago, she says, this is calling this morning.
She uh she said, hey, you know I'm off on Friday.
And I said, yeah, I know you're off on Friday
because you worked all weekend. She goes, uh, we're we're leaving.
I So she got she got out of pack the
camp and everything. But we got a lot done this
week on it. Uh, let's go get in the tree
Friday morning. Did you see as she woke me up

(30:34):
right at daylight A couple of mornings ago because that
big joker was out there in the food plot and
he said, yeah, so we went this morning. Didn't see
it the earn thing.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
It was cool this morning.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
It was nice, man, I am. We're getting some these
forty five, forty six degrees this morning up there. I
this is my time of year. I love it, me too,
I love it. I got a covey of quail hanging
out under one of my feeders. I've seen them two
or three times. I'm ready to go put a bird dog.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
On that week waiting to see what happens when you
shoot that massive deer that she found on camera and
told you about, and you shoot it when she would
have been in that stand, y'all, flip a coin and shere,
and that what happened?

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Tried Sunday afternoon, last Sunday afternoon last weekend. She said,
let's go it. We ain't got nothing going on. Let's
go sit and stand this afternoon. It's going to be nice,
nice and cool. And I said, okay, Well, we've been
having this picture of the good deer coming into a
not this same food plot where that big one's been coming,
but a different one. And she said, let's go. I said, okay,
where you want to sit no, and expecting her to

(31:34):
say the one where we're getting all the pictures every afternoon,
and uh, she goes, I don't know where do you
want to sit. And I'm like, I'm gonna let you
choose because the last time we've done all it last
time I let her choose several year, a couple of
years ago, I went to the one where we hadn't
have it didn't had not taken a picture. We had
two big Bucks on camera that year, and uh, we

(31:58):
added two big bucks and we're gonna say where we're shooting.
You know, those are two shooters where those are identified
as we're gonna take them if we get the opportunity.
And we went and I said, which which wherever you
want to go? You go? She goes, all right, I'm
going to my spot. I'm like, okay, go to your spot.
And I said, she said, where are you gonna go?
I said, I'll go tripod stand whatever. And uh, this
was at like one thirty two o'clock in the afternoon.

(32:19):
It just got done raining and uh we were up
in the camper standing up there and it quit right
in the middle of the day. It rained in the
middle of the day, and she goes, you think it's
dear movie. I said, yeah, just soon as this rain's
over there leable to move, and so we took off
and I let her choose. I went to the other one.
I'd been sitting in the stand about eleven minutes and
miss one of one of the one of the two
big ones, came out and I shot him. She didn't

(32:41):
even talk to me the whole drive home, an hour
and a half ride home, and I kept the baby,
what's wrong. I don't want to talk about it. I
don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
That big one walks out, you let it pass.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
You better shoot that one.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Well, here's the thing you might not get. You you
might not get, but one a big old deer like that,
you may he ain't nobody.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Else gonna pass on it. Yeah, so that's still when
somebody stop the truck and get out and shoot it
off the highway. Right there you are in Georgia, right.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Yes, yeah, huh. And there's a dirt road on one
side of the property.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Somebody will approach that thing this year if you yeah, that.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Dirt road gets I shouldn't stand sometime where I can
see a part of that dirt road and ride about
dark every afternoon. You'll get them creepers coming down the
road at five miles an hour, you know, just e
along that dirt road, and I know exactly what they're
doing there. You know, the spotlight, well it ain't it
ain't late enough for him to be spotlighting. They're riding
that dirt road hooping something steps out of the road

(33:37):
where they can something. Yeah, shoot in the middle of
the road. But uh, but yeah, that's uh, you know,
it's just part of the game. But a big deer
like that, that's smart. He didn't get that old being stupid.
He may not come out in the daytime at all,
but he you know, he may not. If he does,
it might just be one the one day. You know,

(33:58):
you just never know. They're not The old ones like
that are not predictable. A three year old deer, three
and a half year old deer, two and a half
year old deer, absolutely predictable. You get them older than
four and a half, five, five and a half, six
and a half years old. When they get to that size,
in that age, they become very unpredictable, and they've become
very nocturnal. So you know, we're not taking that and

(34:19):
taking a daytime not one daytime picture of that deer
and he is just absolute monster, which you know, you
gotta play You gotta play back the rules. You can't
go out there to not and do it and do
all that because it don't it don't mean anything if
you do that. So but uh yeah, I'm I'm, I'm
like this last weekend, I let her pick. I said, okay,
she wouldn't pick. I wouldn't pick. I said, let's flip

(34:39):
a coin. Whoever wins the coin toss got to pick first.
And she said, okay, so flip flip the coin. And
I said, all right, well I'm going to I'm going
to southeast where we've been seeing the deer and it's
early in the year for for this to be going on.
But they were running around there chasing those and just
acting all It's like they had like the whole deer
herd Poppy lasion up there had the zoomies. I mean,

(35:01):
they were just I saw five or six different bucks
and a bunch of doze, and she's seeing deer running
and I'm seeing deer running. Finally, one came out that
was on the coal list and weighed over two hundred pounds,
big deer, but I think he was old and on
was the way down. He had a little bit of
short row ties and a big wide rack, and I'm like,
I'm gonna go ahead shoot him and put some put
some hamburger in the freezer. He wasn't a trophy by

(35:23):
any stretch, but he has a lot of deer meat,
and I'm all for the deer meat. Have you been
seeing any of your place, Charlie. I know you live
in the middle of your hunting.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
I have to ask my wife. They watched the cameras
and all that stuff, and you know, we're still a
little ways off from hunting season, so it's coming. But
I no, I hadn't. You can get it that out, Grant.
But I tell you what, we hadn't really put corn

(35:53):
out yet. So that's gonna be this weekend. We're gonna
do corn this weekend. And we've had more deer killed
on the highway this year than I've seen in the
last two or three years combined.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
We've had more deer period, just numbers of deer than
we've that I think we've ever had at this least
that we're you know, it's not unusual to see three
or four deer at a time come out to feed.
You know, this year we're seeing six and seven and
eight and ten at a time coming to our little
small food plots we planted. We planted Labor Day, Labor

(36:27):
Day weekend, and I was, man, I was worried about
having a replant because we've just been so dry. But
we've gotten just enough rain, and I guess there's enough
shade that my food plots hadn't burnt slap up, so
they ended up coming up looking pretty good.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
I'm worried about turkey season because I've got eighteen turkeys
running around my yard that are mine. They're tame, and
they've all gotten big enough now to where all the
all the boys are out strutting around comparing feathers, and
the boy, it's gonna be yeah, it's gonna be uh,
it's gonna be uh. It's good. I'm and the neighbors

(37:00):
are sending me pictures. Now. My turkey's out in the
field in front of the house, and the.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Turkey drive it down the highway.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
I don't be calling them up now. They stay over
here with me. Don't shoot my turkeys. And you can't
tell the difference looking at him from a distance. I mean,
they're you get you wonder why you got some gray
ones in there, and you know, it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
I heard a funny story on the internet that guy
was talking about turkey hunt and they took ald white,
old white turkey.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
You know, h yeah, a tame turkey farm turkey.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
And to some poor Yankee and they was going to
take him to turkey hunting. And this was down in
South Florida, and the guy was saying.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
Yeah, we got a we got a white, solid white
ossi ola out here on the place, albino ossi ola
turkey and all this stuff, and just talk it up
and it put the old tame turkey out there. And the.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Said, the turkey comees up there about I don't know,
twenty yards away from him, he shoots him and missus him, Yeah,
shoots and missus the turkey. I just can't wrap my
head around that. But anyway, missus, missus, this tame turkey
that's just walking around out there. And the guy that
would playing the joke on him was hitting the bushes
trying to video Tabe sitting. The turkey runs straight to
him like hell, he said, I just knew I was going.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
To get shot.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
The turkey's coming over there to get rescued. Me to
get shot by a Yankee right there.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I got that one turkey that don't like me, and
he's got all his feathers back, and he has one
more beautiful bird right now, and he's got a bottle
inch long.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Spurs on him, and you are to handle him.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I'm uh, I'm here.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
The question not that.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
It's about three and any much he's so he uh,
I might just let him follow me to the.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Field, tie him to a put a stob in the
ground right off a highway out there. Somebody in Jackson
County will take care of him for you. I'm convinced
somebody going.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Well, everybody sees me posting Facebook pictures of a turkey
I killed it. Probably it's probably Jacob.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
He'll teach you.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
I go, I got him out where, I go into
pen I kick him in the chest and I blow
up at him and I run at him, and he'll
back up raising all sorts of cane. But he'll stay
away from me while I'm in there. I mean, he
he fights me when I try to put food, and
I took a deer feeder put it in the chicken
pen over the timer, just to sling feed, so I
don't have to go in there all the time and

(39:24):
do it. And so if I forget, the chickens ain't hungry.
We'll be back.

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Yeah, so you got a trip?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yes, A man, I've been fishing every day this week.
First day I didn't go with today Friday when we're
recording the show. But man, I tell you what, the
bite has been on this week. The bus has been
exceptionally good.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
It's nice weather change.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
It is this cooler weather.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I'm actually wearing a sweatshirt down here today. And tell
you what, but the bike's been super good. The bass
fishing on average, catching twenty twenty five a trip, you know,
in a half a day trip. Been biting good in
the mornings and in the evenings. And I'm still catching
fish on those lures I showed last week. I brought
them back again. I kind of called a little fast
over that the other day. I'm gonna bring them back

(41:21):
up again. Yeah, because they have been working and you
can these are you fished a ronald trap before?

Speaker 4 (41:28):
And a spot and a spot.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
These things about Lake Talquin yep on.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Uh Lake Seminole, anywhere you got fish that are feeding
on chad, and that's what they're doing right now. They're
feeding on chad. They're feeding up for the winter. Those
those traps have been working good. A little square bill
of crank bait.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Its kind of looked like a shad. That's been working
really good. And that thing will run about four to
five foot deep.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I like to throw it on about thirty pounds braided
line because over hydrilla, when it hangs in the grass,
you can just pop it out and it really and
again that it draws that bit to it makes them
react to it. But that's where those been working good
spinner baits, and we're working good on a cloudy weather
when you get some wind. These have been I think
we called on Wednesday like twenty.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Five on a spinner bait. Well it's just like a little.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Shad and they have been biting that good. The crappie
haven't been seeing them start to bunch up.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
You.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
I think the order to get a little bit cooler.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Right yesterday the water temperature was sixty eight in the morning,
so it's definitely come down about ten or twelve degrees, yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
And well these forty something degree nights, so helping that
process too.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
You know.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
I was going to ask you, you know you farming,
you raised up farming Jack, Charlie. Do you see that
it feels to me like falls happening a lot sooner
this year. Have you noticed that with plants or because
it seems like with a fishing it is, But then
the croppi you are kind of hanging back.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
So it's been I mean.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
It's it's I look at our winter peanuts coming out,
and if it's cool when you're getting peanuts out, I
feel like it's you know, if you don't really get
a lot of cold snaps. But I expect the weather
to change right about to what if it's a normal
year to me, right about the first time I feel
the first of the cold snap peanuts. I'm smelling peanuts

(43:15):
in there too.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
And there are times, but there are times when they
are when it's just hot and peanuts coming out.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I just that's miserable for me. But it's it's this year,
it's been cool. Most people are just about done with
their peanuts, except for that folks that just they had
a bunch of them. There was a whole row of
them caught on fire someplace. Yeah, they had a like
twenty thirty tractor trailers full of peanuts at one peanut

(43:44):
meal somewhere here recently, the whole thing caught on from
picked had been pigged, was in the trailers. You imagine
how many acres of peanuts that represents. And they said
it might take a day to put it out. Those
farmers right there and the other one not long ago,
there's a fellow right across the line up in Georgia that, uh,
his neighbor was burning a fire and it got across

(44:04):
the line and burnt, burned a bunch of his hay
that he had put back burning the feeding his cows
for the winter. And he's a local fella. I mean,
he was commenting on and on the news. I mean,
it's a you a fire and right now, as dry
as it is, you're talking about the drought, or as
dry as it is. If you out there striking the
match to even a trash pile in your yard, you

(44:25):
need to be real careful. I had a cardboard out
in the burn pile for weeks now, and that's supposed
to I think it's spially. Somebody said, my wife said.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Yeah, there's some rain in the forecast. There's some rain
in the forecast. I don't know how much rain, but
you know, even getting a little devil here and here
and there.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
But it's looking there's a chance on Monday, a little
bit Sunday evening Monday.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
I don't want to I don't want a hurricane. I
do not I do not want a hurricane. But I
would show take a tropical storm.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I need it. My pond is about dry.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, and that's what I've been hearing a lot of
these ponds for duck hunting this year. There's gonna be
a bunch of ducks on them.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
On the big lake, Yeah, big Lake Ammonia. I went down.
We rode down, My wife and I rode down.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
We we every now and then we ain't got a
young and we'll go there and get us some ice
cream from the from the Jeremias or from dairy Queen,
and right down to the boat landing in the boat
landing is at Lake Ammonia is low right now.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
I go out there, and I go out there and
feed my hogs corn every afternoon right there in the
off the edge of the pond, you know, off the dock.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
World the waters ice cream involved, you had the ice
cream involved with that I'm doing. I'm hanging out with
my wife eating ice cream. So you know, at the
boatman and looking.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
At the water.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Yeah, I'm uh not so much.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
No, No, you're right.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
So you going, you said, you and Dale, we're going
as soon.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
As we get downe here, we're going down.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I'm going to dalls and we're going down to the
coast and see we catch on them trout.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
It's that time of year for trout and redfish start
moving up in the creeks like they do every year
in the fall. I tell you, man, this time of
year is either going to be feast or famine than
my experience on the flats. If you find them, hang on.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I mean, I tell you what I last time I
went with him, I called a giant on a on
a top water bait.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
We had a prop on it.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Man.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
That strike was must have been as big as the
front of the boat. But yeah, big old trout.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
This time of year. I've gone down there and gotten
on red fish. And just catch one as fast, just
as fast as you get one in the boat and
release him and throw it back out there and catch
another one. Catch twenty five or thirty in a twenty
minute period of time. You know, it just seemed like,
I mean, probably a lot longer than that when you
catch a fish, but catch twenty five or thirty red
fish as fast as you can get a bait out
there in the water. That's what they get.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Schooled up to get into fresh and tackle.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yeah, sugard reels, you know. Yeah, last time I did that,
I caught most of what I called I started. I
was started trying everything in the tackle box just to
see if they if there was something they wouldn't hit.
But we were catching them on redfish magic, which is
nothing but a giant beetlespan. It's a giant, a big beetlespan.
That's all that is. Is a big gold bladed you know, beetlespin,

(47:03):
Colorada blade, got a big, big Colorado blade on it.
Catching them on that. I was catching them on the
uh I can't never the uh whatever, Paul Brown, the
Paul Brown flures, I was catching them on those. I
was catching them on rattle traps, just's anything you throw
in the water, you know, when they're schooled up and
feeding like that, because everything is getting ready, getting prepared
for the colder weather, and so they're eating on the

(47:25):
lake eating as fast as they can. I got a
report from Lake Wimmaco said the shad run. There's thousands
of little small shad all over the place. Said the
lake was crystal clear and a lot of a lot
of pepper grass and uh, hydrilla and pepper grass in there.
And they said that just look down the water and
its just the water sparkling with with bait right now,

(47:46):
with small bait. So yeah, it's if you're not going
to hunt. And there's a lot of places in Florida
right now you can if you don't hunt Georgia. Uh,
a lot of places in Florida that hunting seas is
not in yet. It's a great time to be on
the water and you might hit one of those epic days.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
It feels good out there.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
You know, it's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
It's absolutely gorgeous, gorgeous weather to come to the gun
range and shoots around the sporting clay.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
I was watching you site your show. I know j
D J Charli you're gonna like this. JD said, get
down there and shoot it one time. I'm like, I
ain't seeing through it.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
JD.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Is you got to put your cheeka.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Gets the stocks and look through there since I shot
a right, it's been a rifle, and I hit it
to kill the deer, shot an absolute bulls eye with it.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, well he was in that stand.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Yeah, I had it in the So I use a
fled sled or a gun by a vice a sled
when I'm sitting one in. I want to take as
much of me out of the equation as I possibly can.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Glad you to call me out of that equation.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
I'm just the I'm just the nut behind the trigger
at that point that.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I didn't feel I pulled the trigger. You said, I
pull pulled the trigger harder than I should have.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Yeah, you snapped the trigger a little bit, But that's okay,
it's uh, it happens. I mean, even used to hit
the target.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah, that was important thing right there at It would
have killed a deer for sure.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, you just got to dry fire a little bit.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
And that man pulled up.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
I was going to ask you there was a guy there, right,
and he was shooting, but he kept shooting.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
His without a bullet fire. You get shot, you get
all everything down andwadays.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
I was told when I was young, you don't do that, guys.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
You don't want to drive fire a twenty two twenty
two long rifle. Rim Fire guns are not not a
good idea to drive our most most rim fire guns,
depending on how they're designed. Rim fires you don't want
to because the firing pins are very small and fragile.
Pretty much everything else center fire guns U take exception
of really old revolvers that have a fixed firing pin

(49:44):
built into the hammer, you don't want to drive fire.
Of those, you don't want to. Typically you don't want
to dry fire rim fire pistols or rifles because the
firing pins are kind of fragile on most of them.
But a center fire rifle you drive like locks. You
could drive fire. You can drive fire clock all day long.
It's never going to hurt a thing that doesn't.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
And if you're trying to work on your precision fire
with a rifle, dry fire is a good thing because
you really need to follow through. Just came up with
an idea for the wiregrass quarter hour segments. Follow you
want to, you want to stare at the crosshairs. You
want to rifle firm in the shoulder, the firm handshake grip,
just like we're shaking somebody's hand. You're not squeezing it

(50:24):
real hard. Put your finger on the trigger and you
pull straight to the rear. You stare at the crosshairs.
You don't want any scope shadow in there, you know,
if you see the black circles around off the one
side or the other you want you don't want any
scope shadow. You want to get your eye relief just right.
Stare at the crosshair, put it on the target. The press, press, press, press, press,
click all right, follow through. Continue to look at the

(50:45):
crosshairs and that will help you shoot more accurately. Now
where you are positioned, you know, you if you see
your heartbeat in the crosshairs, you need to get a
little bit better support, you know. And so there's some
there's some tips and tricks.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
That that one guy he stood up and shot and
hit that thing at a hundred yards.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
That's a that's a that's a skill.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
It absolutely is. It's it's an unsupported shot. Is multiply multiplier,
you know, difficult level. So it's it's much more difficult.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
And I recommend you see all next week.