November 1, 2025 • 51 mins
In Ep. 435 of The Talon Outdoors Show, Fred returns and tells of his tales in Colorado and the fun he had fly fishing. Also, who could forget, it's Halloween! And Fred did come prepared with the outfit of the year!
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All this and much more!
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Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
Check out our archive of podcasts here: https://ihr.fm/36mzYjf.
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Listen live to the Talon Outdoors Show from 10-11 a.m. ET on 100.7 WFLA!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Town Outdoor Show. I'm Charlie, I'm JD.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Fred sort of Captain Paul Tire, and I'm Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Oh all right, so we got to get the We
got to get the one hundred and ninety pound squirrel
out of address, the one hundred ninety pound squirrel in the room,
and yeah, one hundred and forty five just with some
big if you, if you eat enough carrots, you might
kick me.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And I brought these nuts.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yep, you did. I see you got your these nuts
in your hand. So before we get too deep down
this end up this squirrel hole.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
If you're not watching this on YouTube, yeah I wanna
so so Fred, Fred, it's Halloween.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We're recording on Halloween. And every year Fred the attorney,
Fred Conrad Esquire goes to court wearing a dad gum
Halloween costume an squirrel, and you are Rid Conrad Squirrel
and he is dressed up in a full bomb that gum.
The phone keeps making noise and I can't make it
(01:11):
be quiet. And then seeing us a squirrel in a
squirrel outfit, gloves tail, sweet, let me grab your tail here.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Don't you always wanted to grab my tail, don't.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Touch, don't worry. I have no intention that is, uh,
you all got it my life. We're gonna have to
put a picture this.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
My wife the picture of it wall to go and
she goes, She goes, he's a nut and I said, no,
he's these nuts and I said, center the other picture.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
See if I can get all this in on, get
a picture of the stand up fred, so I can
post this to Facebook and uh you were to put
there you go a little squirrel. Oh man, all right,
I'll check out a Facebook page. We'll put some pictures
of this idiot on there.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I don't know if if I was if you were
my attorney and I was facing criminal charges and you
showed up like that, I don't know if I would
be happy and laugh or be mad or what you
read would depend on whether or not you got me
out of whatever trouble I was in.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Eventually, I've actually held argued motions with a co.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
In smody files files for for what is that when
you you don't get enough uh legal reprea And later on, well,
my attorney showed up the court and a squirrel outfit,
and I don't know the judge was extremely distracted.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
She just wasn't taking me seriously. I can't understand.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well, you kept going, that's a duck kind of a
sitting Sure, yeah, that's enough. I don't know. All I know.
They make a heck of a racket. You need to
shuffle around some leaves and stuff when you out hunting,
all you when the squirrels are out. It's like, well, man,
(03:12):
we were just we were to go.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
We were to tie him up, Charlie.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I mean, right now, let's just throw a hood over
him and tie him up, put him in a sack
and go take him out in the middle of the
wood somewhere where people are hunting, and turn him loose.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And just somebody around him. Somebody, Man, why did you
shoot him? Was none of my friends gonna believe what
I saw?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So unless I killed it trophy squirrel.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
That's why I know there ain't really no bigfoots out there.
Is because some of them would have done shot it now,
just so they could stuff it and show it off
to their buddies, And so they ain't no big.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Feats bigfoot because somebody either have a good trail camera,
pick a good trail camera picture of him, or would
have shot one.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yes, it was quite the experience of the courtrooms for
I bet it.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Was yeah, so so well, I mean, attorney client, they
talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It, but I was just no, I just so.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Who was the judge today?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It was Judge Ashinofi Richardson, and I told him my
client was acting squirrely and so I was going to
give her these nuts and I went over. Yeah, she
took me back to chambers and got a picture.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Man, I see if a cop showed up to court.
And here's how you get away with that is because
you are Fred Conrad and nobody expects much eye of
you when it comes to proper behavior. Fred, That's what
it is.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You know. William Eggs was my old boss back when
I was a baby lawyer, and you know I was.
He'd called me in the office because i'd call some
kind of ruckus in the court room, imagine that. And
I explained to him what I did, and he said, yeah,
he said, you know, I think you've learned a valuable lesson.
He says, always make them think you crazy and they'll
leave you alone.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So I took that advice, took that advice and ran
with it and been running with it all this time.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And it's worked over the years.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
It worked for you, Fred, you know you stick with it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I actually got two cases dropped this.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Morning, believe it or not, in the squirrel seat.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
In the squirrel seat. Wow, you try negotiating with prosecutor
and squirrel.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Shoot, it worked, you know. I don't. I don't have
what it takes to show up in a public place
wearing that. That'd be like, hey.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Want you to be a little nuts.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah? Well, Fred, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I mean to do what I do. You gotta be
nuts anyway.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So let me ask you a question, Fred, sir, go ahead.
So every Halloween you do this? Do you buy these?
Rent these? Where do you get these things from?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I run across and over the course of the year,
and I saw this one and I thought, yeah, it'd
be pretty good. I try to top each year.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
How long ago did you have this one, you know,
in the pipeline ready to go?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
This one didn't show up until about three days ago. Oh,
I didn't know what I was late. I was late, Well,
I was you know, I had actually had another idea.
I was gonna I had a trump wig and a
king outfit.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
That would have been the squirrel one court.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You might not have made it to court dressing like that.
Somebody might would have accosted you on the street, might.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Have don't let him in the court, and why not,
no kings.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That's when I that one didn't even come out of
the bag. But it's might wear it to night around, so.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You have it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Actually, uh.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I also found a full pineapple suit like it's like
a it's like a three piece suit embroidered a pineapples,
all pineapples. And I was gonna so we do.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Don't turn them upside down in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yes, I don't go walk around the neighborhood stand on
your head. You will get a cost invitations.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I was gonna swing into court, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So this is getting pretty These jokes are getting pretty deep.
People out that talking about what's what? I don't get that.
What's he talking about was just google it.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Up, Google us down pineapple.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It was kind of like those scrunchies that from the
villages and google them too while you're while you're googling,
you call her codes for the scrunches on your golf
cart in the villages.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So I sent a picture of the pineapple suit my
wife yesterday.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
She said, ain't no way no, just no, oh, it's
a suit. It's actually a sports coat.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It's a sports coat, tie the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Okay, I thought you were dressing up like a pineapple.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I was picturing SpongeBob's house.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, I mean, if they'd have had a pineapple in
my size.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah. Well, if you notice those pineapples are right side up.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
They are. But I think the meaning's pretty clear. I mean,
if you've got a full suit adorned with pineapples, but
you bought it. Uh, it was sixty nine dollars, sir.
I didn't just say it.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I wasn't christ all right, Hey, we got to get
fred Is. He's dressed up in this dead gum squirrel
suit wearing the gloves in the studio too.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I just got to play the part. I mean we're
on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Okay, you're hiding behind your microphone the whole time, though,
So I don't know thing.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Really don't be one of them days.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I just want him to go run around out there
in front of the building and the grass and let
me get in the b B gunt.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Co two full auto BB gun back there in the back.
We can we can chase him across the parking lot
with that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
A number of rednecks and pickup trucks in that parking
lot right now, I ain't a little nervous coming.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
A little nervous. Yeah, I don't blame you. I mean,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It's one of them. Movie are looking at a rs out.
We don't make you squeal.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You didn't say that, well, something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Kind of hard to hear with this thing on, so
it could have been something else.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
A lot of fluff around the face.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
The thing you said, you can't be for real. Maybe
that's so you heard something different because you paranoid, that's
why you're thinking. You're thinking just because you cute, got
that fluffy tail, somebody you know.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Like, this is the only time you've ever called me cute.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well, that's uh, this is the most ridiculous I've ever
seen you look in my entire life of knowing you.
Since we first met in the hallways at the courthouse
somewhere on some case we were either working together on
or opposing each other, I've never never I mean, we
got pictures over here, you in a chicken suit. That
looks pretty ridiculous. But I think I like this some
(09:41):
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I enjoyed that on a break your friend, it was awesome.
See and you take that see and you take that
squirrel set off like that, just uh man.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Don't choke on your sandwich over there.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Why are you rad somebody's gonna take in front of you.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I don't know you've ben.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Look anyway, So on the right before the show started,
you asked a question about California and blocks, and I
know we discussed a little bit on the last show,
which were you here for that one?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Items to talk about that too.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So anyway, so we we.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
We've been selling a lot of blocks this week. Yeah,
it is.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It is spurred the market for people buying glocks. I
guess that we're just waiting for just such an occasion.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The state of California sued, along with I think Illinois, Massachusetts.
It has been several there's been several Blue states that
sued glock because of the ease in which a criminal
can uh print three D print a device to go
in the gun to make the gun function as a
(12:01):
machine gun.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Correct, it's not just lawsuits right there, California is Newsom
has actually signed a band aimed at glocks. Yeah, it
takes effect, I want to say. January July twenty six.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well, see by July twenty six, you can just about
bet your bottom dollar that Glock will probably have a
Gen six out now out there there at the end
of November, they'll have the V model, which is a.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Essentially Gen five and a half.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
That will not let you put a switch in it anymore,
and they're going to probably introduce the I'm guessing they
will introduce the six probably at Shot show, which is
in the end of January.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
That's my guess.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I don't have any inside knowledge or haven't taught to anybody,
or that's just my I'm presuming all of.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
That seeing the changes, because there's there's gonna be some
parts compatibility issues for those of us that work on
them from time to time.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
It's probably gonna be substantial.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
That's what I was going to have.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Substantial.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Different bags are going to be easily you know, convertible
or compatible. You know in your existing block that you've
got existing block nineteen Gen five or whatever, and now
there's five five point five the V, right, you would
hope that those.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Magazines will be compatible.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I can't imagine them changing the magazine for the V
when they're probably gonna come out with a six later
on and if they change the magazine for the six,
that would be a terrible thing on their part too,
because glock magazines one of the biggest reasons that so
many people. It's like the car beings and stuff. I
like to run car beings for different purposes, and I
always use glock compatible carbing because that's what I run,
(13:52):
is glocks. And so if you take the Glock magazine
and then the next law enforcement pistol is a model
as a Very and six and they're not compatible, then
that that's that's that's not gonna be a good thing.
And there's no reason for them to change.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
There's no reason to change the mag will So hopefully
they I can't imagine them doing that, but I wouldn't
be surprised if the holster compatibility may change with the
version with the Gen six. Generation six, you may have
holster compatibility.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Issues and cares about that.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
And they don't because but but law enforcement agencies do
because of the holsters that they use. Now, a lot
of agencies that have body cameras also have holsters that
have a device in there that tells the body camera
to turn on when the gun comes out of the.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Holes, like a switch, like a switch switch a switch.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, No, their holsters have a have a magnet magnetic
switch in there. When the gun is drawn, it automatically
turns the body camera on. Yeah, and those are expensive.
Those holsters are costing cost about half as much as
the gun does.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
They're not cheap.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
And so is it true that the origin of this
block switch. I'm sure you've probably got like Americans that
are you know, adding them. But I remember reading stories
about in the last few years, especially under the Biden administration,
China was flooding, flooding the market owned gangs were like
funneling these block compatibility switches into the American market, and
(15:19):
they're turning up in gang violence, they're turning up into
reel life.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You could order them online.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You could get them on wish dot com and need
tmu and places like that.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Then they started tracking them when they would come in.
There was a firearm seized in Tallahassee just the other
day in a case criminal case, and glock had a
switch on it.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You know, that's great.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I go back with this.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
We have you and I own legal registered block switches
that we we got six or seven years ago that
are serialized stamped essentially as part of our business. We
have some we can legally convert a glock pistol to
a machine pistol with those devices. They're they're metal, very
(16:05):
well made whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
They're fun to shoot for a mile with one magazine,
one or two magazine.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Okay, that's a lot of am It's expensive and a hurt.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So I go back to this. If I if there's
a thug out there on the street and he's got
I got the choice of him having a semi automatic
pull the trigger and and and some training and some
a little bit of training, or somebody with the spray
and pray full auto glock. I'd rather I'd rather duck
the one time when they go, and then I get
up and actually take an aim shot, and then I
think we get in that fight pretty quick. But uh,
(16:34):
just been how many times he reloads. But the thing
is is that what makes that so bad is that
they are not trying to hit the target that is
their intended target, the person that they don't like, and
they're just putting a bunch of rounds down range, which
is why so many innocent children and bystanders get hurt
(16:55):
on these street street grabble shootings.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, very indiscriminate the fire and you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, the reason that they passed the law in California
was because of a shooting where what Charlie's just talking
about damage. Yeah, and if you look at the guy
that did it that, you know he already had a
rap sheet a mile long. He had just been released early.
This is California. Yeah, of course, Uh, the guy had
he was in he was serving a ten year sentence
(17:21):
for taking his girlfriend, pulling her out by the hair,
beating her senseless with a belt so bad that one
witness said that they couldn't see her eyes. And so
they gave a ten year sentence. Well because of their
sentencing scheme, in which I think is far too little
for something like that, especially when a guy had a
rap sheet a mile long dating back to twenty thirteen.
(17:44):
His name was Smiley Martin, I think, and yeah, heck
of a name, and that's he had one of those
converted illegal converted.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Gloss wasn't legal, friend, but probably even have a gun
in the first place.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So rather than going back and looking at their sentencing scheme,
they decide to ban clocks. Yeah, like this guy shouldn't
have been on the street to begin.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
With, but they're not getting anything away from anybody because
they're all out there and they're not going to ever
get them back up. And I think so. First off,
I don't think that a full auto firearm has any
practical application. However, I don't think they should be controlled
by the federal government either. I don't think that. I
don't think the federal government has any business keeping you
(18:25):
from having anything like that because it's part of our
Second Amendment guaranteed rights. I keeping bare arms now, I
think it's a stupid thing to do. I think it's
a stupid thing to have other than a toy. You know.
I don't even think there's really a real good outside
of a bona fide machine gun mounted on top of
something in a fixed position defending a military strong point.
(18:48):
I don't think there's any reason to have a full
auto weapon other than for that for practical purposes. Now,
do I believe you should have the right to have it? Absolutely?
I think just like open carry, I think open carry
is our right. I think there's there's absolutely should not
limit that. However, you know, is it what I do?
Speaker 6 (19:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Please don't think it's a good Now, and people argue
that point you know what, that's okay. If you think
that wearing an open gun deters crime, don't wear an
open gun, that's fine. I don't care. But I don't
do it on occasion I do. You know now that
I get out and I'm like, I got to walk
from here to there and I got none of they
do it.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I don't really want to untuck my shirt and tuk
my shirt.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Sometimes I leave it open.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I don't worry about it, you know, but but I
don't same here.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
But I don't go out of the house with the
intention of carrying openly for any there. Once again, there's
no there's no logical reason to do it for me personally.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I got an updated on that.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yeah, I have Target, Target Store.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Target Store, and the Target store this past week speaking
to one of the people in Target. So you know,
I hadn't heard Target's position on this. What is it?
What are y'all doing? And this is for the Bradford
Bill store. Okay, So lady there said, yeah, our policy is,
you know, if you've got a gun that's in a holster, uh,
(20:08):
you're not taking it out. You're not just walking around
with your gun and your holster. We're not going to
do anything about.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It, so publics. Publics took a public similar stance they did.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Of course, Cliff Fail wrote a stupid article.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
We got all these people saying I'm never shopping at publish.
Yeah that you will. You pay whole food prices a
few times, and you will. You've got you've got wind
Dixie and Aldi saying, you know, we want you to
leave your gun in the car. And then you've got
publics going, we're going to allow people to bide by
the law, you know, and do what they're gonna do.
And then people mad at publics. I'm mad. I'm mad
(20:41):
at wind Dixie Aldi, because that's what's going to be
in Marianna. They closed the wind Dixie's closing the ref
Brandon is an audiend. They're going, you can't carry a
gun in here. We want you to leave your gun
in your car. They didn't say open carrier. They said,
we request our drappers leave their gun in the car,
which leaves Walmart. And and then the discount grocery store
over there, which just that's kind of cool shopping one
(21:03):
of the old grocery stores were go in. It has
that old grocery store smell, you know, like the old
Piggy Wiggly back in the day. You know, when you
go in, when you travel, as you run in those
I'm like, man, this is cool. Everything costs a little
more sometimes, but you know they keep the prescription. They're
the non prescription stuff locked up in the Hello.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
He Lo as somebody else.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So but I but I you know, people get mad
at publics. Well, what was publics going to do? There
are Southern grocery stores in the South, and the South
is predominantly conservative, and conservatives predominantly believe in firearms. And
if they come out with an anti gun position, what
did you think that? What policy did you think they
were going to come up?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I mean, the only people that were going to protest
that are the only thing they're buying is tofu anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So I know, it's just just just the people that
just don't want You know what I can see where
if guns offend you, they make you uncomfortable, and there's
a lot of people then that you don't want to go.
And you're you're there with your kids in the shopping
car and you look over there and somebody you don't
know has got this gun exposed on a big holster
(22:07):
you know what. You're just not used to it. That's
what it is. You just haven't seen it, and you
think that if you don't see it, then the world's
a safer place. Well, in my opinion, if you do
see it, the world's a safer place. Because if I
and at us be the argument, we're law enforce all
we want to make sure if we should our deputies
show up on a scene that open guns distract our
(22:29):
deputies from doing their job. Well, no, I think that
it's just the opposite. I want to know when I
go to a call who's armed and who's not.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I'd pretty much presume everybody used to presume everybody was armed.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, open care of means you're probably be on my side.
We'll be right back.
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I did some I've been doing a lot of vehicle
dealing here lately, and the question came up. I just
we talk about warranties. You need to get those phone
calls by all those crazy warranties and stuff. You know
how we've been trying to contact your car wark Yeah,
I mean, you know, we laugh about those things and
people in a lot I see stuff online next talking
about man, I you know this, it's so hard to
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deal with these warranted companies. I'm pretty sure those things
are you know, But I buy new stuff. I also
buy a lot of use stuff because you know, the
security company I got, we buy a lot of used
vehicles because I can afford them, and I pay cash
for them, you know, and then put them out on
the road and running for a little while. But what
gets me is a dead gum expenses get those things fixed.
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It's crazy. And the other day I was poll Afford
and bought an explorer from my daughter, and it was
one I was able to fork out the money pay
cash for and it broke down the road and I'm
like that gum.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It cost twelve hundred dollars to put an alternator on one.
And that was after I had talked to it. Now
well not at the Marianna Afford, but wanted somewhere else.
And I'm like, my lord, So I went back and
I said, y'all got a warranty for this thing from
the dealership, one that I can trust, and they gave
me a price on it, and I'm like, man, let
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me think about this. And you know, I got a
warranty for four years and forty eight thousand miles for
about three times what an alternator would cost. For another
four years and forty eight thousand miles on that thing,
and the chances of something that I bought this got
over one hundred thousand miles on it. That's nine years old.
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Knowing what I pay. I mean, I had a CEV
axle on one of our frontiers the other day replaced
and a strut and it was twenty two hundred dollars somewhere.
And I mean, it's crazy what mechanics. I mean, all
wear the rates are having to buy all these computers now.
It ain't like you know, I remember, Paul, you've probably
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you've rever reached an alternator before ever wh replaced an
alternator on an older pick of a trail. It's a
couple of boats. You loosen it up, you take it off,
You unplug a little wire and take another wire off,
the bigger, the bigger wire off, unplugged a little pair
with plug with two wires on it, and you take
the belt off. You take it off, you put a
new one on there, and you tighten it up and
plug it back in. Right, I take thirty minutes. Uh uh,
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this thing. They had to discharge the air conditioner, they
had to drain the coolant, They had to take half
the top of the motor off to get to the
dog gone thing and it.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Was crazy is the cost?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And so what year was this gone? This is twenty sixteen.
Man now good truck, but just something that simple now
is So, I don't know y'all when y'all buy vehicles,
y'all buy warranties.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Wouldn't make every warranty I can get?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well, I mean me and JD do on new trucks,
we buy the we wanted at least one hundred thousand
miles bumper to bumper nowadays, because it's just.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
The amount of electronics and little widgets and do hickeys
and all that stuff that I would have no clue
on how to fix.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Yeah, yeah, I saw commercial of this. You're talking about
these warning things that if your car was then twenty
years old, you can get warranty for it you used.
I don't know how legit it is, but you got to.
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You got to do your due delags. You've got to
do your due diligence. Here's what I suggest is you
talk to a local dealer or a local mechanic the
place you go get your stuff done, and you go
which ones do you recommend? Because they're the ones that
deal with the companies. They're the ones that have to
because what will happen is that a lot of some
some of these insurance companies that do the warranties will
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pay the full hourly rate. Some won't, some will pay
eighty bucks. I will pay the full rate. You know,
you need to go to talk to.
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I'm gonna pay you. I'm gonna pay you money more.
Oh yeah, well, no pay I'm gonna pay you in cash.
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You only have one taken out?
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Yeah, because I'm it's complicated for it. My wisdom teeth
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of insurance you have them? I don't have insurance.
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Well, I'm like, I'm gonna pay you. I'm gonna pay
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piped up, he hey, pull the bill up.
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my tooth. I paid him a grant, so twenty five
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there now or is that better for the fisher segment?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I you know that don't want to take every ball,
but it's story. It's that fish and stuff just got
back from col Rock.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
He's had a bunch of nose rings or something over that.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
When you get yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Into Colorado.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
They're just saying, so did a few things out there, man,
man smoke a lot of weed that there was. There
was some weed people there there was actually had a
guide on the first day and I forgot to bring
the sticker. He had his own grateful dead sticker with
his image in it. And this guy we got in
his truck to go to go to the river, and
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I'm like, I.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Bet contact a lot of sims apparel. He did, Yeah, wow,
they have grateful dead.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Well, no, this guy is like you know, because there
were several guys. There's a bunch of us going on
the first day, and I said, I want the guy
with the longest beard, because you know, usually the guy
with the longest beard, he's he's been at it for
a while.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, growing the beard for a while.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
But yeah, uh, and he was a he was a
good guide. It was just very hard fishing that first day.
It was wade fishing. And if you've ever felt.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Like kind of limits where you can go for it,
it does not only that I.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Learned what it's like to have waiters filled up with
forty degree water that is.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Not was hole in them? Or do you fall down?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Follow me?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Okay, step on the rock? Wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, the rocks were extremely slick because the river was
way down and the fishing was hard. So it was
not that first day. I hung probably four of them
and landed one. And the reason that when I say
hung them, that means hooked them and got them close.
But if the flies that you were fishing with this
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time of year are little bitty flies, and I picked
one up and show you just how small that is.
You probably won't even be able.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
It looks like the size of little ear rings to me.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
You see that hook?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
No, but yeah, I can tell there's something there. What
size hook is that?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That is a twenty eight twenties eight size hook for
normal brim hook that we fish with and six.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, so this is.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
How a trout sees. That is beyond me, but they do.
And what you're trying to do when you're fishing is
imitate a fly or bug that fell into water going downstream,
and you have to float it naturally in order to
get the fish to fight. And that's the trick to it,
because you have to you have to roll cast, which
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is a more difficult cast then because you can't back
cast because if you do, you wind up in a tree.
So you have to roll the line and it has
to land a certain way. Then you have to do
something called mending the line, which will take that and
float it and float your bug down the river at
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a natural pace. And you can only do that for
about five or six seconds.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
And you may have three different three or four five
different speeds of current, depending on where in the river
you are. In that one little piece there, you may
have just flowing slower on the sides than it is
in the middle.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Or next to a rock or whatever else, so you'd
just got a pit. So that was technical fishing, Yes,
it was.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
It was very tantable. So the second day I went
on my own with another guy, and I found a
very experienced guy. This guy was twenty years doing this.
And we didn't fish the Eagle River that day. We
fished the Colorado River and it had been brought down,
it was low, it was damned. However, a guy came
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and picked me up at the at the hotel. We
went to thirty minutes down the road to the Colorado River.
Beautiful scenery. I mean, it's you know, Colorado River course
goes through the Grand Canyon, so picture what it looks
like at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. And that's
where I was. And we're floating down the river and
he gets me in this raft and I thought we
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were going on like a standard float boat wouldn't boat. No,
this was a raft outfitted for rapids. Oh gosh. And
it had a stand in the front where you would
basically strap your knees in. And so I'm going over
class two rapids and he's going cast there.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
That's like riding the bull and.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
It's like a white water tramp or fly fishing what
is it? And he's back. There were two oars and
he was good because I flipped that boat and we
went over this and he would tell me to where
to cast and then say mend up or men down,
depending on the current. And boy, I mean, I want
to say I landed six hung probably ten that I
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got close to the boat because you figure you got
to you cannot. It's not like bass fishing. Set the
not only are you not going to feel him strike
because that thing is so small. You'll you have a
sight indicator.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
You have a little little button on your line.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
That little button on you. When you see that go under,
you set. But you set to the side upstream, upstream
and you do it and you you strip at the
same time. So it's a very technical set. And once
you set, you got to hold that set. If you
turn the other way, ye, that thing's going to come
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right out of his mouth and it's very difficult to
keep him on.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
What kind of trout were you?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Kitchen browns and rainbows? And landed about a seventeen inch brown,
which is which is really big for there you know,
you'll you'll go to other parts of the country and
they'll laugh at you with him.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
My daughter I told I've told the story about my
daughter kitchen that twenty twenty eight inch brown trout.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
In the in the White River.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
And yes, that which is a huge Yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
That's huge anywhere anywhere.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
And you know you you couldn't the guide was able
to see some of the fish. I couldn't. I mean
I had polarized glasses. And this is not my first
time blackfisher. I've done this for a long time. And
and I'll tell you a trick. When you go with
they guide fly fishing, tell him that you don't know
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anything about fly fishing, right, because it's different everywhere you
go in different parts of the country to go fly fishing.
It's it's just different. And you in order to unless
you're just a you know, that's all you do is
fly fish, you need a guide because they're going to
tell you what's what's there, what.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Bait's working, what's hatching, what's right.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
And that little bait would float on the water, it
would not okay, it would throw under ok And then
so if you look at this rick here, you'll see
I've got a dry fly and this served as my.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Striking indicator.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And so what I would do is this this little
thing holds this bug. If you can see this.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Hey, that's what four town line is.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
That is that like two pounds probably a three and
a half pound three three and a half pound tippet that.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
You get strikes on the on the surface floor.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Did not. I was really because that's that's what you
want as a Wi Fi hit. And uh, they just
were they were spawning this time of year and they
weren't hitting it. One trick I did learn was on
the leader. Because normally you get a tapered you know
I was brought up. You buy a tapered leader that
leads into a tippet. What he did was he got
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these little bitty rings. If you could see that ball, yep,
and you tie that on and then you tie your tippet,
which is the last line that that that you tie
your fly to. That's the three. So you have a
leader that goes to a tippet. Rather than tie the
tippet onto the line, you tie this little ring and
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that way you can change it. That way you can
change out either and not only that, when you have
this on there, the the the nymph, which is the
little bitty fly. I was showing floats directly under it
instead of floating trailing off down the thing, and I
caught more fish. Use that little bitty ring on the
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that leader. They made all the difference.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
So here's the thing, Fred, And you said, listen to
your guide telling them you don't know anything. That is
the way you should always go into any if you're
with a professional guide, whether it be salt water, fresh water,
fly fishing, bass fishing, whatever, listen to that guy because
like Paul, Paul spends three hundred plus days a year
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on the water.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
And ladies always listen better than men.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah, and they do. And I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
And as a firearms instructor that has taught a lot
of men and women to shoot, I would much rather
have a woman student because they listen. You just have
to be careful what you say to women. Not in
a bad way, You just have to you have to
give very precise instructions and they will listen to those
very precise instructions and follow them very very carefully. Where guys,
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you know, think they they know or they hear every
fourth word, you know, and I thought you said so
it's no, that's not what I said. But anyway, it's yeah,
it's just very different.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
This guy was, I mean, and I told him, you know,
have you fly? Well he saw a rod. I mean,
it's not a novice ride. But I said, look, you
treat me like I've never done this before. Yeah, because
I want to learn. And he did. He taught me
quite a bit, just in stuff that I hadn't done before.
And I've been doing this for thirty years.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
Yeah, and a great guy's a great change.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Oh yeah, did a lot of fun.
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Speaker 7 (40:46):
And how we learned about fly rods and tapered Yeah,
I mean it's a little to say.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I would I would have. I would have been happy.
And I was watching and I was looking, and I
realized that I was going to retain any of that
information at all. I'm glad that Fred's passionate about it,
and I care Fred, I really do. But I don't
feel like I've lost anything by not catching the last
part of that conversation.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Well you didn't see my little bitty bug.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I think it's little okay, well, can't nobody else. I said,
that is tiny, Fred. That's not the first time you've
heard anyway, all right, so usually on the break.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
The local fishing, I tell you, the local fishing has
been excellent. The bass fishing has been good. Actually, I
was starting to find some croppy schooled up. Just just
found some of them yesterday. But uh, that's coming. That's
gonna be so funny. And strippers and ibers have been biting.
But man, I tell you what. I took my wife
up way up Spring Creek. Have you ever been way
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up above.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I've been way up Spring Creek where they started running
the little gates and stuff where you have the my
my thinking.
Speaker 7 (41:53):
I remember, there's there's an old Uh it's the road.
You go up past that and you got to care
late and it turns actually in to a clear water.
You can see the bottom in eight foot of water.
It's so beautiful up there. But man, I tell you
what it was. It was just that's probably the prettiest tay.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I went over the Flint and the Chattahooche last weekend
on the way up Detroit to visit my daughter at college.
And uh, they're green, they're they're they're clear way clear water.
Usually you can you know, red stained sea coon track
floating down the river is so muddy. But that looked
down there, like wow, they're just both of those rivers
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are just gorgeous. Right.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
Yeah, we ain't had no rain that the fishing is
and the fishing has been excellent. I bought some brought
some baits to to show what's kind of this time
of year. You know, the bass are feeding up highbrids
and the crop you're starting to do it too. They're
feeding up on bait, getting ready for the winter. And
I want to show the folks I've got I'm sure
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JD you've heard of an.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Alabama Alabama rig umbrella rig, and got.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
One of those.
Speaker 7 (42:56):
I put this little little ty strap on there just
to hold it down, and I push that up and
this thing looks like a little school of school of
bait when you come the time of year there, that's
the time of year. I had a buddy of mine
catch about thirty through the through the week fishing this.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I mean, it's like as it looks like you'd have.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
It's called an Alabama rig. And you notice this middle
one has a different color. That's the one they typically hit.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
And not uncommon to catch more than one. It is
that's right at a time.
Speaker 7 (43:28):
I mean, when you get a five or six pounder
in another fun they can get it.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
That's been outlawed for b A S S or one
of the tournament trails.
Speaker 7 (43:36):
Says Polly lies back ten fifteen years ago. Want to
ternament beat everybody's butt by like twenty pounds, and they like, oh,
we need to make that work.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
We need to can't do that no more.
Speaker 7 (43:46):
You can't do that no more. But there's your a
lot of local termaments. You can fish it. It's it's
just a pro level that you can't be a S
S in particular. And some some states will require that
you only have three baits that have a hook on
it and two of them are cheasers or depend on
the state. But up on like someone old Florida and Georgia,
you can you can fish five. But these little blades
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spin in it and you you'll you'll be real that
thing along. And it's hard to do this with guy
and people that don't fish a lot, but people that do,
because when you hit a stump, you it'll hang's a
fifteen dollars, twenty dollars paid, you know, what I mean.
So you don't want to pull into it. But when
when a bass hits that, they'll bout jerk the ride
out of your hand. That's that's fun fishing. But it's
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kind of hard to throw it all day long.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
You have to use a real uh heavy, heavy action
rod and big line and that's right, typically pound test braid.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
Yeah, when I'm fishing over grass like deep hydrilla, I'm
onna throw braid fifty pound braid, a seven half foot rod,
medium heavy where I can pop it when it when
it hits the grass when I open water, and I'd
like use floor carbon twenty pound, twenty pound floor carbon
on a seven half foot medium action rocks. I wanted
to load into it, Yep, you know what I mean.
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On to the the Yeah, you could, you could say
a floor corn another style that's a little bit smaller.
Speaker 6 (45:07):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
You can throw. But but that's that has really been
working well and it's going to continue all the way
into February.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
You know where that came from. You know where those
where those are originated from. No, it's an it's an
adaptation from saltwater for saltwater big game fishing for marlin
and tuna and stuff like that. They'd put a teaser
umbrella out there that didn't have any hooks in it, right,
and they drag them behind the boat, and then you
present the big bait that you're trying to get the
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fish to bite behind it. It looks like a medium
sized fish chasing a bunch of little fish to get
the short enough big fish. I'm talking about a giant,
you know, marlin or whatever to come in and hit
its fish. There's always a bigger fish here.
Speaker 7 (45:48):
When that shirt, when the bait gets a little bit bigger,
I'll say one this size and make that my middle one,
and they'll seem like they just go to that middle
one because it's a little bit different, you know. And
when you're real in it, you want to reel it
in and just changed on a long rod. You could
be pointing kind of down to the water out from
you and then just switch it and then that thing
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be going on in the turn. You've seen shad do
that very natural little turn. That's when they bought it.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
For people out there on the radio that are going,
what are they talking about. He's talking about fishing with
a chandelier it looks like a dad gum shando.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Umbrella that you left the framework in and took all
the cloth off of and put some hooks on the tip,
like something you.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Would hang above you.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Sure it's crib that's four wires and a wire in
the middle, and it's got all these all these hooks.
Speaker 7 (46:38):
Now, one thing about this. You go get a striper
on there and you try to sling that thing in
the boat and he's you know how aggressive they are.
Them hooks are slinging everywhere, so be careful. I have
I got them flyers that are about a foot long,
and I reach down there and it's unhooked.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
You can see you show up at d R. What
have you done? Well? I caught a big I'm sure
you're going to go to fish.
Speaker 7 (47:03):
I love I love having kids out there catching them hybrids,
you know, and you're catching two something at one or
two and I'm like, okay, I'll get it now. I
grab the ride out here, because you got to be careful, now, Fred,
Actually I've been the hooks in the barbs, oh in
case they ever stuck, but I haven't had it happen yet.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
So you'll come here today with the tiniest hook I've
ever seen and the biggest batch of hooks I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
You know, it's funny. Fred was showing his strike indicator.
Hot water. We used to take remember the old the
pop ars full.
Speaker 7 (47:34):
Size, the big pop bars gets on millions of them, right.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Well, you take that big pop aar and on the
back hook take the take the trouble hook had had
a ring in there. We tie a leader to that
ring and put little MEPs jigs, the little like crappy
jigs or crappy jigs. Put MEPs jigs underneath them and
catch schooling. When the hybrids just start schooling, you throw
that pop ar out there and those those jigs hanging
(47:58):
two jigs hanging below it, and you take that pop
r and blow the water up and they would hit those.
They would hit those little uh, little feathertail jigs in
the in that plus calor river.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
We used to do that a lot.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
That and big popping quarks. But yeah, he do both
of them and that Sometimes you'd catch them on the
bait on top and sometimes you they'd hit that. The
big ones would hit the hit the bait on the bottom. Yeah,
the little ones that come up there and slap the
slap on top. But I like that funny how stuff
crosses over from yeh from you know, it's a it's is.
There's no better sport to me than trying to entice
(48:33):
a fish to hit something that's not natural. That's that
is as a that is a tremendous skill.
Speaker 7 (48:38):
Yeah, fishing for for for bass with lures versus live bait.
It's two totally different.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
Oh yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 7 (48:47):
As of right now, this this past week, I'm at
one hundred and ninety one people this year called their
personal best. Wow, So trying to get two hundred, I
think I we're gonna do it. You want to go fishing, body, sure, okay,
but it's been good.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
What's your personal best twelve?
Speaker 1 (49:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (49:06):
I don't think he's ever been bast fishing.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Have you?
Speaker 5 (49:08):
Oh yeah, oh you have.
Speaker 6 (49:09):
I would, but I mean I didn't ever have a
scale with it. I'm just, you know, killing time with
buddies and we're just having fun.
Speaker 7 (49:15):
And I had someone reach out from the a couple
of weeks ago that that called me about the show,
if anybody has any questions about what we're talking about,
And I didn't explain clearly, like like Charlie says on
the radio, give me a call. You can call me
at eight five oh two six four seven five three
four or email me at Paul tiur Fishing at gmail
dot com. I'm to answer any questions.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
And this is on YouTube, so you can see this
stuff if you look at the pictures and take a
look at all the crazy stuff we talk about. I
hate when we we're not more descriptive sometimes because we
can see what we are talking about.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
This.
Speaker 7 (49:50):
I'm trying to get better at that.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
But you kind of got to go look at the
YouTube channel and you.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Can see my new hat.
Speaker 7 (49:56):
Yes, tell us about that hat.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Okay, this is a custom cowboy a hat that ain't
they made out west to fit me?
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Is that a little cowboy hat?
Speaker 2 (50:05):
That's a wee little cowboy. But they put stuff on it.
Everything on there is unique.
Speaker 6 (50:10):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
So there's a Damascus steel knife that goes on there
that put my initials. They know, like rattlesnakes. I got
a rattlesnake band on it. The feathers, I have a
duve feather because I like that kind of hunting.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
And the peacocks on or my mother she used to
raise peacocks. And then we have two mountain lion claws
and a piece of turquoise. And that's for my wife
because she's part Indian. And of course the claws are where.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
She does scratches.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, it scratches me out of course. I put them
put a bullet on the air because I'm a big
fan of the second moment. And uh and it fits,
I mean it fits. Let me take these headphones off
and you see it. It It actually fits my head. Yeah, perfect,
And I feel like I want to go watch it
the you know reruns a Yellowstone. I mean, I love
(50:57):
this hat. I've been wearing it all day when.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
You wasn't wearing the school on top of the squirrel hat,
did you You've been wearing it on top of the
squirrel head.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Now, well I had to squirrel on today.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
So but.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
What size hat is it?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
It's a seven and eight.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
I think me and my wife are one size apart.
Hers is a six and seventy pounts of I Let's
see you all next time.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
Oh lord,
Welcome to the Town Outdoor Show. I'm Charlie, I'm JD.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Fred sort of Captain Paul Tire, and I'm Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Oh all right, so we got to get the We
got to get the one hundred and ninety pound squirrel
out of address, the one hundred ninety pound squirrel in the room,
and yeah, one hundred and forty five just with some
big if you, if you eat enough carrots, you might
kick me.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And I brought these nuts.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yep, you did. I see you got your these nuts
in your hand. So before we get too deep down
this end up this squirrel hole.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
If you're not watching this on YouTube, yeah I wanna
so so Fred, Fred, it's Halloween.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We're recording on Halloween. And every year Fred the attorney,
Fred Conrad Esquire goes to court wearing a dad gum
Halloween costume an squirrel, and you are Rid Conrad Squirrel
and he is dressed up in a full bomb that gum.
The phone keeps making noise and I can't make it
(01:11):
be quiet. And then seeing us a squirrel in a
squirrel outfit, gloves tail, sweet, let me grab your tail here.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Don't you always wanted to grab my tail, don't.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Touch, don't worry. I have no intention that is, uh,
you all got it my life. We're gonna have to
put a picture this.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
My wife the picture of it wall to go and
she goes, She goes, he's a nut and I said, no,
he's these nuts and I said, center the other picture.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
See if I can get all this in on, get
a picture of the stand up fred, so I can
post this to Facebook and uh you were to put
there you go a little squirrel. Oh man, all right,
I'll check out a Facebook page. We'll put some pictures
of this idiot on there.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I don't know if if I was if you were
my attorney and I was facing criminal charges and you
showed up like that, I don't know if I would
be happy and laugh or be mad or what you
read would depend on whether or not you got me
out of whatever trouble I was in.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Eventually, I've actually held argued motions with a co.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
In smody files files for for what is that when
you you don't get enough uh legal reprea And later on, well,
my attorney showed up the court and a squirrel outfit,
and I don't know the judge was extremely distracted.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
She just wasn't taking me seriously. I can't understand.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well, you kept going, that's a duck kind of a
sitting Sure, yeah, that's enough. I don't know. All I know.
They make a heck of a racket. You need to
shuffle around some leaves and stuff when you out hunting,
all you when the squirrels are out. It's like, well, man,
(03:12):
we were just we were to go.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
We were to tie him up, Charlie.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I mean, right now, let's just throw a hood over
him and tie him up, put him in a sack
and go take him out in the middle of the
wood somewhere where people are hunting, and turn him loose.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And just somebody around him. Somebody, Man, why did you
shoot him? Was none of my friends gonna believe what
I saw?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So unless I killed it trophy squirrel.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
That's why I know there ain't really no bigfoots out there.
Is because some of them would have done shot it now,
just so they could stuff it and show it off
to their buddies, And so they ain't no big.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Feats bigfoot because somebody either have a good trail camera,
pick a good trail camera picture of him, or would
have shot one.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yes, it was quite the experience of the courtrooms for
I bet it.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Was yeah, so so well, I mean, attorney client, they
talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It, but I was just no, I just so.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Who was the judge today?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It was Judge Ashinofi Richardson, and I told him my
client was acting squirrely and so I was going to
give her these nuts and I went over. Yeah, she
took me back to chambers and got a picture.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Man, I see if a cop showed up to court.
And here's how you get away with that is because
you are Fred Conrad and nobody expects much eye of
you when it comes to proper behavior. Fred, That's what
it is.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You know. William Eggs was my old boss back when
I was a baby lawyer, and you know I was.
He'd called me in the office because i'd call some
kind of ruckus in the court room, imagine that. And
I explained to him what I did, and he said, yeah,
he said, you know, I think you've learned a valuable lesson.
He says, always make them think you crazy and they'll
leave you alone.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So I took that advice, took that advice and ran
with it and been running with it all this time.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And it's worked over the years.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
It worked for you, Fred, you know you stick with it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I actually got two cases dropped this.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Morning, believe it or not, in the squirrel seat.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
In the squirrel seat. Wow, you try negotiating with prosecutor
and squirrel.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Shoot, it worked, you know. I don't. I don't have
what it takes to show up in a public place
wearing that. That'd be like, hey.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Want you to be a little nuts.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah? Well, Fred, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I mean to do what I do. You gotta be
nuts anyway.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So let me ask you a question, Fred, sir, go ahead.
So every Halloween you do this? Do you buy these?
Rent these? Where do you get these things from?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I run across and over the course of the year,
and I saw this one and I thought, yeah, it'd
be pretty good. I try to top each year.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
How long ago did you have this one, you know,
in the pipeline ready to go?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
This one didn't show up until about three days ago. Oh,
I didn't know what I was late. I was late, Well,
I was you know, I had actually had another idea.
I was gonna I had a trump wig and a
king outfit.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
That would have been the squirrel one court.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You might not have made it to court dressing like that.
Somebody might would have accosted you on the street, might.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Have don't let him in the court, and why not,
no kings.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That's when I that one didn't even come out of
the bag. But it's might wear it to night around, so.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You have it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Actually, uh.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I also found a full pineapple suit like it's like
a it's like a three piece suit embroidered a pineapples,
all pineapples. And I was gonna so we do.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Don't turn them upside down in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yes, I don't go walk around the neighborhood stand on
your head. You will get a cost invitations.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I was gonna swing into court, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So this is getting pretty These jokes are getting pretty deep.
People out that talking about what's what? I don't get that.
What's he talking about was just google it.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Up, Google us down pineapple.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It was kind of like those scrunchies that from the
villages and google them too while you're while you're googling,
you call her codes for the scrunches on your golf
cart in the villages.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So I sent a picture of the pineapple suit my
wife yesterday.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
She said, ain't no way no, just no, oh, it's
a suit. It's actually a sports coat.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It's a sports coat, tie the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Okay, I thought you were dressing up like a pineapple.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I was picturing SpongeBob's house.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, I mean, if they'd have had a pineapple in
my size.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah. Well, if you notice those pineapples are right side up.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
They are. But I think the meaning's pretty clear. I mean,
if you've got a full suit adorned with pineapples, but
you bought it. Uh, it was sixty nine dollars, sir.
I didn't just say it.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I wasn't christ all right, Hey, we got to get
fred Is. He's dressed up in this dead gum squirrel
suit wearing the gloves in the studio too.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I just got to play the part. I mean we're
on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Okay, you're hiding behind your microphone the whole time, though,
So I don't know thing.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Really don't be one of them days.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I just want him to go run around out there
in front of the building and the grass and let
me get in the b B gunt.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Co two full auto BB gun back there in the back.
We can we can chase him across the parking lot
with that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
A number of rednecks and pickup trucks in that parking
lot right now, I ain't a little nervous coming.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
A little nervous. Yeah, I don't blame you. I mean,
you know.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It's one of them. Movie are looking at a rs out.
We don't make you squeal.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You didn't say that, well, something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Kind of hard to hear with this thing on, so
it could have been something else.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
A lot of fluff around the face.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
The thing you said, you can't be for real. Maybe
that's so you heard something different because you paranoid, that's
why you're thinking. You're thinking just because you cute, got
that fluffy tail, somebody you know.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Like, this is the only time you've ever called me cute.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well, that's uh, this is the most ridiculous I've ever
seen you look in my entire life of knowing you.
Since we first met in the hallways at the courthouse
somewhere on some case we were either working together on
or opposing each other, I've never never I mean, we
got pictures over here, you in a chicken suit. That
looks pretty ridiculous. But I think I like this some
(09:41):
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I enjoyed that on a break your friend, it was awesome.
See and you take that see and you take that
squirrel set off like that, just uh man.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Don't choke on your sandwich over there.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Why are you rad somebody's gonna take in front of you.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I don't know you've ben.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Look anyway, So on the right before the show started,
you asked a question about California and blocks, and I
know we discussed a little bit on the last show,
which were you here for that one?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Items to talk about that too.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So anyway, so we we.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
We've been selling a lot of blocks this week. Yeah,
it is.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It is spurred the market for people buying glocks. I
guess that we're just waiting for just such an occasion.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The state of California sued, along with I think Illinois, Massachusetts.
It has been several there's been several Blue states that
sued glock because of the ease in which a criminal
can uh print three D print a device to go
in the gun to make the gun function as a
(12:01):
machine gun.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Correct, it's not just lawsuits right there, California is Newsom
has actually signed a band aimed at glocks. Yeah, it
takes effect, I want to say. January July twenty six.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well, see by July twenty six, you can just about
bet your bottom dollar that Glock will probably have a
Gen six out now out there there at the end
of November, they'll have the V model, which is a.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Essentially Gen five and a half.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
That will not let you put a switch in it anymore,
and they're going to probably introduce the I'm guessing they
will introduce the six probably at Shot show, which is
in the end of January.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
That's my guess.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I don't have any inside knowledge or haven't taught to anybody,
or that's just my I'm presuming all of.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
That seeing the changes, because there's there's gonna be some
parts compatibility issues for those of us that work on
them from time to time.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
It's probably gonna be substantial.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
That's what I was going to have.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Substantial.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Different bags are going to be easily you know, convertible
or compatible. You know in your existing block that you've
got existing block nineteen Gen five or whatever, and now
there's five five point five the V, right, you would
hope that those.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Magazines will be compatible.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I can't imagine them changing the magazine for the V
when they're probably gonna come out with a six later
on and if they change the magazine for the six,
that would be a terrible thing on their part too,
because glock magazines one of the biggest reasons that so
many people. It's like the car beings and stuff. I
like to run car beings for different purposes, and I
always use glock compatible carbing because that's what I run,
(13:52):
is glocks. And so if you take the Glock magazine
and then the next law enforcement pistol is a model
as a Very and six and they're not compatible, then
that that's that's that's not gonna be a good thing.
And there's no reason for them to change.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
There's no reason to change the mag will So hopefully
they I can't imagine them doing that, but I wouldn't
be surprised if the holster compatibility may change with the
version with the Gen six. Generation six, you may have
holster compatibility.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Issues and cares about that.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
And they don't because but but law enforcement agencies do
because of the holsters that they use. Now, a lot
of agencies that have body cameras also have holsters that
have a device in there that tells the body camera
to turn on when the gun comes out of the.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Holes, like a switch, like a switch switch a switch.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, No, their holsters have a have a magnet magnetic
switch in there. When the gun is drawn, it automatically
turns the body camera on. Yeah, and those are expensive.
Those holsters are costing cost about half as much as
the gun does.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
They're not cheap.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
And so is it true that the origin of this
block switch. I'm sure you've probably got like Americans that
are you know, adding them. But I remember reading stories
about in the last few years, especially under the Biden administration,
China was flooding, flooding the market owned gangs were like
funneling these block compatibility switches into the American market, and
(15:19):
they're turning up in gang violence, they're turning up into
reel life.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You could order them online.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
You could get them on wish dot com and need
tmu and places like that.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Then they started tracking them when they would come in.
There was a firearm seized in Tallahassee just the other
day in a case criminal case, and glock had a
switch on it.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You know, that's great.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I go back with this.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
We have you and I own legal registered block switches
that we we got six or seven years ago that
are serialized stamped essentially as part of our business. We
have some we can legally convert a glock pistol to
a machine pistol with those devices. They're they're metal, very
(16:05):
well made whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
They're fun to shoot for a mile with one magazine,
one or two magazine.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Okay, that's a lot of am It's expensive and a hurt.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So I go back to this. If I if there's
a thug out there on the street and he's got
I got the choice of him having a semi automatic
pull the trigger and and and some training and some
a little bit of training, or somebody with the spray
and pray full auto glock. I'd rather I'd rather duck
the one time when they go, and then I get
up and actually take an aim shot, and then I
think we get in that fight pretty quick. But uh,
(16:34):
just been how many times he reloads. But the thing
is is that what makes that so bad is that
they are not trying to hit the target that is
their intended target, the person that they don't like, and
they're just putting a bunch of rounds down range, which
is why so many innocent children and bystanders get hurt
(16:55):
on these street street grabble shootings.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, very indiscriminate the fire and you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, the reason that they passed the law in California
was because of a shooting where what Charlie's just talking
about damage. Yeah, and if you look at the guy
that did it that, you know he already had a
rap sheet a mile long. He had just been released early.
This is California. Yeah, of course, Uh, the guy had
he was in he was serving a ten year sentence
(17:21):
for taking his girlfriend, pulling her out by the hair,
beating her senseless with a belt so bad that one
witness said that they couldn't see her eyes. And so
they gave a ten year sentence. Well because of their
sentencing scheme, in which I think is far too little
for something like that, especially when a guy had a
rap sheet a mile long dating back to twenty thirteen.
(17:44):
His name was Smiley Martin, I think, and yeah, heck
of a name, and that's he had one of those
converted illegal converted.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Gloss wasn't legal, friend, but probably even have a gun
in the first place.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So rather than going back and looking at their sentencing scheme,
they decide to ban clocks. Yeah, like this guy shouldn't
have been on the street to begin.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
With, but they're not getting anything away from anybody because
they're all out there and they're not going to ever
get them back up. And I think so. First off,
I don't think that a full auto firearm has any
practical application. However, I don't think they should be controlled
by the federal government either. I don't think that. I
don't think the federal government has any business keeping you
(18:25):
from having anything like that because it's part of our
Second Amendment guaranteed rights. I keeping bare arms now, I
think it's a stupid thing to do. I think it's
a stupid thing to have other than a toy. You know.
I don't even think there's really a real good outside
of a bona fide machine gun mounted on top of
something in a fixed position defending a military strong point.
(18:48):
I don't think there's any reason to have a full
auto weapon other than for that for practical purposes. Now,
do I believe you should have the right to have it? Absolutely?
I think just like open carry, I think open carry
is our right. I think there's there's absolutely should not
limit that. However, you know, is it what I do?
Speaker 6 (19:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Please don't think it's a good Now, and people argue
that point you know what, that's okay. If you think
that wearing an open gun deters crime, don't wear an
open gun, that's fine. I don't care. But I don't
do it on occasion I do. You know now that
I get out and I'm like, I got to walk
from here to there and I got none of they
do it.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I don't really want to untuck my shirt and tuk
my shirt.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Sometimes I leave it open.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I don't worry about it, you know, but but I
don't same here.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
But I don't go out of the house with the
intention of carrying openly for any there. Once again, there's
no there's no logical reason to do it for me personally.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I got an updated on that.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yeah, I have Target, Target Store.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Target Store, and the Target store this past week speaking
to one of the people in Target. So you know,
I hadn't heard Target's position on this. What is it?
What are y'all doing? And this is for the Bradford
Bill store. Okay, So lady there said, yeah, our policy is,
you know, if you've got a gun that's in a holster, uh,
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you're not taking it out. You're not just walking around
with your gun and your holster. We're not going to
do anything about.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
It, so publics. Publics took a public similar stance they did.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Of course, Cliff Fail wrote a stupid article.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
We got all these people saying I'm never shopping at publish.
Yeah that you will. You pay whole food prices a
few times, and you will. You've got you've got wind
Dixie and Aldi saying, you know, we want you to
leave your gun in the car. And then you've got
publics going, we're going to allow people to bide by
the law, you know, and do what they're gonna do.
And then people mad at publics. I'm mad. I'm mad
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at wind Dixie Aldi, because that's what's going to be
in Marianna. They closed the wind Dixie's closing the ref
Brandon is an audiend. They're going, you can't carry a
gun in here. We want you to leave your gun
in your car. They didn't say open carrier. They said,
we request our drappers leave their gun in the car,
which leaves Walmart. And and then the discount grocery store
over there, which just that's kind of cool shopping one
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of the old grocery stores were go in. It has
that old grocery store smell, you know, like the old
Piggy Wiggly back in the day. You know, when you
go in, when you travel, as you run in those
I'm like, man, this is cool. Everything costs a little
more sometimes, but you know they keep the prescription. They're
the non prescription stuff locked up in the Hello.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
He Lo as somebody else.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So but I but I you know, people get mad
at publics. Well, what was publics going to do? There
are Southern grocery stores in the South, and the South
is predominantly conservative, and conservatives predominantly believe in firearms. And
if they come out with an anti gun position, what
did you think that? What policy did you think they
were going to come up?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I mean, the only people that were going to protest
that are the only thing they're buying is tofu anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So I know, it's just just just the people that
just don't want You know what I can see where
if guns offend you, they make you uncomfortable, and there's
a lot of people then that you don't want to go.
And you're you're there with your kids in the shopping
car and you look over there and somebody you don't
know has got this gun exposed on a big holster
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you know what. You're just not used to it. That's
what it is. You just haven't seen it, and you
think that if you don't see it, then the world's
a safer place. Well, in my opinion, if you do
see it, the world's a safer place. Because if I
and at us be the argument, we're law enforce all
we want to make sure if we should our deputies
show up on a scene that open guns distract our
(22:29):
deputies from doing their job. Well, no, I think that
it's just the opposite. I want to know when I
go to a call who's armed and who's not.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I'd pretty much presume everybody used to presume everybody was armed.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, open care of means you're probably be on my side.
We'll be right back.
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I did some I've been doing a lot of vehicle
dealing here lately, and the question came up. I just
we talk about warranties. You need to get those phone
calls by all those crazy warranties and stuff. You know
how we've been trying to contact your car wark Yeah,
I mean, you know, we laugh about those things and
people in a lot I see stuff online next talking
about man, I you know this, it's so hard to
(24:02):
deal with these warranted companies. I'm pretty sure those things
are you know, But I buy new stuff. I also
buy a lot of use stuff because you know, the
security company I got, we buy a lot of used
vehicles because I can afford them, and I pay cash
for them, you know, and then put them out on
the road and running for a little while. But what
gets me is a dead gum expenses get those things fixed.
(24:23):
It's crazy. And the other day I was poll Afford
and bought an explorer from my daughter, and it was
one I was able to fork out the money pay
cash for and it broke down the road and I'm
like that gum.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It cost twelve hundred dollars to put an alternator on one.
And that was after I had talked to it. Now
well not at the Marianna Afford, but wanted somewhere else.
And I'm like, my lord, So I went back and
I said, y'all got a warranty for this thing from
the dealership, one that I can trust, and they gave
me a price on it, and I'm like, man, let
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me think about this. And you know, I got a
warranty for four years and forty eight thousand miles for
about three times what an alternator would cost. For another
four years and forty eight thousand miles on that thing,
and the chances of something that I bought this got
over one hundred thousand miles on it. That's nine years old.
(25:22):
Knowing what I pay. I mean, I had a CEV
axle on one of our frontiers the other day replaced
and a strut and it was twenty two hundred dollars somewhere.
And I mean, it's crazy what mechanics. I mean, all
wear the rates are having to buy all these computers now.
It ain't like you know, I remember, Paul, you've probably
(25:44):
you've rever reached an alternator before ever wh replaced an
alternator on an older pick of a trail. It's a
couple of boats. You loosen it up, you take it off,
You unplug a little wire and take another wire off,
the bigger, the bigger wire off, unplugged a little pair
with plug with two wires on it, and you take
the belt off. You take it off, you put a
new one on there, and you tighten it up and
plug it back in. Right, I take thirty minutes. Uh uh,
(26:07):
this thing. They had to discharge the air conditioner, they
had to drain the coolant, They had to take half
the top of the motor off to get to the
dog gone thing and it.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Was crazy is the cost?
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And so what year was this gone? This is twenty sixteen.
Man now good truck, but just something that simple now
is So, I don't know y'all when y'all buy vehicles,
y'all buy warranties.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Wouldn't make every warranty I can get?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well, I mean me and JD do on new trucks,
we buy the we wanted at least one hundred thousand
miles bumper to bumper nowadays, because it's just.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
The amount of electronics and little widgets and do hickeys
and all that stuff that I would have no clue
on how to fix.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Yeah, yeah, I saw commercial of this. You're talking about
these warning things that if your car was then twenty
years old, you can get warranty for it you used.
I don't know how legit it is, but you got to.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You got to do your due delags. You've got to
do your due diligence. Here's what I suggest is you
talk to a local dealer or a local mechanic the
place you go get your stuff done, and you go
which ones do you recommend? Because they're the ones that
deal with the companies. They're the ones that have to
because what will happen is that a lot of some
some of these insurance companies that do the warranties will
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pay the full hourly rate. Some won't, some will pay
eighty bucks. I will pay the full rate. You know,
you need to go to talk to.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
It, kind of like health insurance, the same thing. You
go in there and say, uh, I'm not using my insurance.
I'm gonna pay you. I'm gonna pay you money more.
Oh yeah, well, no pay I'm gonna pay you in cash.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I had some.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
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I still got I got three others. I still got
three left I had.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You only have one taken out?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, because I'm it's complicated for it. My wisdom teeth
are complicated. But I went He goes, oh, what kind
of insurance you have them? I don't have insurance.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Well, I'm like, I'm gonna pay you. I'm gonna pay
you one hundred dollars bills to do this, and he
piped up, he hey, pull the bill up.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Look he pulled the procedure up, and it would have
cost the insurance company like four thousand dollars to do
my tooth. I paid him a grant, so twenty five
percent of what they would have charged the insurance company
by paying cash to the dentist, and because.
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I don't have daling.
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there now or is that better for the fisher segment?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I you know that don't want to take every ball,
but it's story. It's that fish and stuff just got
back from col Rock.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
He's had a bunch of nose rings or something over that.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
When you get yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Into Colorado.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
They're just saying, so did a few things out there, man,
man smoke a lot of weed that there was. There
was some weed people there there was actually had a
guide on the first day and I forgot to bring
the sticker. He had his own grateful dead sticker with
his image in it. And this guy we got in
his truck to go to go to the river, and
(30:21):
I'm like, I.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Bet contact a lot of sims apparel. He did, Yeah, wow,
they have grateful dead.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Well, no, this guy is like you know, because there
were several guys. There's a bunch of us going on
the first day, and I said, I want the guy
with the longest beard, because you know, usually the guy
with the longest beard, he's he's been at it for
a while.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, growing the beard for a while.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
But yeah, uh, and he was a he was a
good guide. It was just very hard fishing that first day.
It was wade fishing. And if you've ever felt.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Like kind of limits where you can go for it,
it does not only that I.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Learned what it's like to have waiters filled up with
forty degree water that is.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Not was hole in them? Or do you fall down?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Follow me?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Okay, step on the rock? Wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, the rocks were extremely slick because the river was
way down and the fishing was hard. So it was
not that first day. I hung probably four of them
and landed one. And the reason that when I say
hung them, that means hooked them and got them close.
But if the flies that you were fishing with this
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time of year are little bitty flies, and I picked
one up and show you just how small that is.
You probably won't even be able.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
It looks like the size of little ear rings to me.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
You see that hook?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
No, but yeah, I can tell there's something there. What
size hook is that?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That is a twenty eight twenties eight size hook for
normal brim hook that we fish with and six.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, so this is.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
How a trout sees. That is beyond me, but they do.
And what you're trying to do when you're fishing is
imitate a fly or bug that fell into water going downstream,
and you have to float it naturally in order to
get the fish to fight. And that's the trick to it,
because you have to you have to roll cast, which
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is a more difficult cast then because you can't back
cast because if you do, you wind up in a tree.
So you have to roll the line and it has
to land a certain way. Then you have to do
something called mending the line, which will take that and
float it and float your bug down the river at
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a natural pace. And you can only do that for
about five or six seconds.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
And you may have three different three or four five
different speeds of current, depending on where in the river
you are. In that one little piece there, you may
have just flowing slower on the sides than it is
in the middle.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Or next to a rock or whatever else, so you'd
just got a pit. So that was technical fishing, Yes,
it was.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
It was very tantable. So the second day I went
on my own with another guy, and I found a
very experienced guy. This guy was twenty years doing this.
And we didn't fish the Eagle River that day. We
fished the Colorado River and it had been brought down,
it was low, it was damned. However, a guy came
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and picked me up at the at the hotel. We
went to thirty minutes down the road to the Colorado River.
Beautiful scenery. I mean, it's you know, Colorado River course
goes through the Grand Canyon, so picture what it looks
like at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. And that's
where I was. And we're floating down the river and
he gets me in this raft and I thought we
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were going on like a standard float boat wouldn't boat. No,
this was a raft outfitted for rapids. Oh gosh. And
it had a stand in the front where you would
basically strap your knees in. And so I'm going over
class two rapids and he's going cast there.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
That's like riding the bull and.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
It's like a white water tramp or fly fishing what
is it? And he's back. There were two oars and
he was good because I flipped that boat and we
went over this and he would tell me to where
to cast and then say mend up or men down,
depending on the current. And boy, I mean, I want
to say I landed six hung probably ten that I
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got close to the boat because you figure you got
to you cannot. It's not like bass fishing. Set the
not only are you not going to feel him strike
because that thing is so small. You'll you have a
sight indicator.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
You have a little little button on your line.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
That little button on you. When you see that go under,
you set. But you set to the side upstream, upstream
and you do it and you you strip at the
same time. So it's a very technical set. And once
you set, you got to hold that set. If you
turn the other way, ye, that thing's going to come
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right out of his mouth and it's very difficult to
keep him on.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
What kind of trout were you?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Kitchen browns and rainbows? And landed about a seventeen inch brown,
which is which is really big for there you know,
you'll you'll go to other parts of the country and
they'll laugh at you with him.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
My daughter I told I've told the story about my
daughter kitchen that twenty twenty eight inch brown trout.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
In the in the White River.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
And yes, that which is a huge Yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
That's huge anywhere anywhere.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
And you know you you couldn't the guide was able
to see some of the fish. I couldn't. I mean
I had polarized glasses. And this is not my first
time blackfisher. I've done this for a long time. And
and I'll tell you a trick. When you go with
they guide fly fishing, tell him that you don't know
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anything about fly fishing, right, because it's different everywhere you
go in different parts of the country to go fly fishing.
It's it's just different. And you in order to unless
you're just a you know, that's all you do is
fly fish, you need a guide because they're going to
tell you what's what's there, what.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Bait's working, what's hatching, what's right.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
And that little bait would float on the water, it
would not okay, it would throw under ok And then
so if you look at this rick here, you'll see
I've got a dry fly and this served as my.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Striking indicator.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And so what I would do is this this little
thing holds this bug. If you can see this.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Hey, that's what four town line is.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
That is that like two pounds probably a three and
a half pound three three and a half pound tippet that.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
You get strikes on the on the surface floor.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Did not. I was really because that's that's what you
want as a Wi Fi hit. And uh, they just
were they were spawning this time of year and they
weren't hitting it. One trick I did learn was on
the leader. Because normally you get a tapered you know
I was brought up. You buy a tapered leader that
leads into a tippet. What he did was he got
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these little bitty rings. If you could see that ball, yep,
and you tie that on and then you tie your tippet,
which is the last line that that that you tie
your fly to. That's the three. So you have a
leader that goes to a tippet. Rather than tie the
tippet onto the line, you tie this little ring and
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that way you can change it. That way you can
change out either and not only that, when you have
this on there, the the the nymph, which is the
little bitty fly. I was showing floats directly under it
instead of floating trailing off down the thing, and I
caught more fish. Use that little bitty ring on the
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that leader. They made all the difference.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
So here's the thing, Fred, And you said, listen to
your guide telling them you don't know anything. That is
the way you should always go into any if you're
with a professional guide, whether it be salt water, fresh water,
fly fishing, bass fishing, whatever, listen to that guy because
like Paul, Paul spends three hundred plus days a year
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on the water.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
And ladies always listen better than men.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah, and they do. And I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
And as a firearms instructor that has taught a lot
of men and women to shoot, I would much rather
have a woman student because they listen. You just have
to be careful what you say to women. Not in
a bad way, You just have to you have to
give very precise instructions and they will listen to those
very precise instructions and follow them very very carefully. Where guys,
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you know, think they they know or they hear every
fourth word, you know, and I thought you said so
it's no, that's not what I said. But anyway, it's yeah,
it's just very different.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
This guy was, I mean, and I told him, you know,
have you fly? Well he saw a rod. I mean,
it's not a novice ride. But I said, look, you
treat me like I've never done this before. Yeah, because
I want to learn. And he did. He taught me
quite a bit, just in stuff that I hadn't done before.
And I've been doing this for thirty years.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
Yeah, and a great guy's a great change.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Oh yeah, did a lot of fun.
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We had to go sign something.
Speaker 7 (40:46):
And how we learned about fly rods and tapered Yeah,
I mean it's a little to say.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I would I would have. I would have been happy.
And I was watching and I was looking, and I
realized that I was going to retain any of that
information at all. I'm glad that Fred's passionate about it,
and I care Fred, I really do. But I don't
feel like I've lost anything by not catching the last
part of that conversation.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Well you didn't see my little bitty bug.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I think it's little okay, well, can't nobody else. I said,
that is tiny, Fred. That's not the first time you've
heard anyway, all right, so usually on the break.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
The local fishing, I tell you, the local fishing has
been excellent. The bass fishing has been good. Actually, I
was starting to find some croppy schooled up. Just just
found some of them yesterday. But uh, that's coming. That's
gonna be so funny. And strippers and ibers have been biting.
But man, I tell you what. I took my wife
up way up Spring Creek. Have you ever been way
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up above.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I've been way up Spring Creek where they started running
the little gates and stuff where you have the my
my thinking.
Speaker 7 (41:53):
I remember, there's there's an old Uh it's the road.
You go up past that and you got to care
late and it turns actually in to a clear water.
You can see the bottom in eight foot of water.
It's so beautiful up there. But man, I tell you
what it was. It was just that's probably the prettiest tay.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I went over the Flint and the Chattahooche last weekend
on the way up Detroit to visit my daughter at college.
And uh, they're green, they're they're they're clear way clear water.
Usually you can you know, red stained sea coon track
floating down the river is so muddy. But that looked
down there, like wow, they're just both of those rivers
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are just gorgeous. Right.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
Yeah, we ain't had no rain that the fishing is
and the fishing has been excellent. I bought some brought
some baits to to show what's kind of this time
of year. You know, the bass are feeding up highbrids
and the crop you're starting to do it too. They're
feeding up on bait, getting ready for the winter. And
I want to show the folks I've got I'm sure
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JD you've heard of an.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Alabama Alabama rig umbrella rig, and got.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
One of those.
Speaker 7 (42:56):
I put this little little ty strap on there just
to hold it down, and I push that up and
this thing looks like a little school of school of
bait when you come the time of year there, that's
the time of year. I had a buddy of mine
catch about thirty through the through the week fishing this.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I mean, it's like as it looks like you'd have.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
It's called an Alabama rig. And you notice this middle
one has a different color. That's the one they typically hit.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
And not uncommon to catch more than one. It is
that's right at a time.
Speaker 7 (43:28):
I mean, when you get a five or six pounder
in another fun they can get it.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
That's been outlawed for b A S S or one
of the tournament trails.
Speaker 7 (43:36):
Says Polly lies back ten fifteen years ago. Want to
ternament beat everybody's butt by like twenty pounds, and they like, oh,
we need to make that work.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
We need to can't do that no more.
Speaker 7 (43:46):
You can't do that no more. But there's your a
lot of local termaments. You can fish it. It's it's
just a pro level that you can't be a S
S in particular. And some some states will require that
you only have three baits that have a hook on
it and two of them are cheasers or depend on
the state. But up on like someone old Florida and Georgia,
you can you can fish five. But these little blades
(44:09):
spin in it and you you'll you'll be real that
thing along. And it's hard to do this with guy
and people that don't fish a lot, but people that do,
because when you hit a stump, you it'll hang's a
fifteen dollars, twenty dollars paid, you know, what I mean.
So you don't want to pull into it. But when
when a bass hits that, they'll bout jerk the ride
out of your hand. That's that's fun fishing. But it's
(44:29):
kind of hard to throw it all day long.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
You have to use a real uh heavy, heavy action
rod and big line and that's right, typically pound test braid.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
Yeah, when I'm fishing over grass like deep hydrilla, I'm
onna throw braid fifty pound braid, a seven half foot rod,
medium heavy where I can pop it when it when
it hits the grass when I open water, and I'd
like use floor carbon twenty pound, twenty pound floor carbon
on a seven half foot medium action rocks. I wanted
to load into it, Yep, you know what I mean.
(45:00):
On to the the Yeah, you could, you could say
a floor corn another style that's a little bit smaller.
Speaker 6 (45:07):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
You can throw. But but that's that has really been
working well and it's going to continue all the way
into February.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
You know where that came from. You know where those
where those are originated from. No, it's an it's an
adaptation from saltwater for saltwater big game fishing for marlin
and tuna and stuff like that. They'd put a teaser
umbrella out there that didn't have any hooks in it, right,
and they drag them behind the boat, and then you
present the big bait that you're trying to get the
(45:36):
fish to bite behind it. It looks like a medium
sized fish chasing a bunch of little fish to get
the short enough big fish. I'm talking about a giant,
you know, marlin or whatever to come in and hit
its fish. There's always a bigger fish here.
Speaker 7 (45:48):
When that shirt, when the bait gets a little bit bigger,
I'll say one this size and make that my middle one,
and they'll seem like they just go to that middle
one because it's a little bit different, you know. And
when you're real in it, you want to reel it
in and just changed on a long rod. You could
be pointing kind of down to the water out from
you and then just switch it and then that thing
(46:10):
be going on in the turn. You've seen shad do
that very natural little turn. That's when they bought it.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
For people out there on the radio that are going,
what are they talking about. He's talking about fishing with
a chandelier it looks like a dad gum shando.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Umbrella that you left the framework in and took all
the cloth off of and put some hooks on the tip,
like something you.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Would hang above you.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Sure it's crib that's four wires and a wire in
the middle, and it's got all these all these hooks.
Speaker 7 (46:38):
Now, one thing about this. You go get a striper
on there and you try to sling that thing in
the boat and he's you know how aggressive they are.
Them hooks are slinging everywhere, so be careful. I have
I got them flyers that are about a foot long,
and I reach down there and it's unhooked.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
You can see you show up at d R. What
have you done? Well? I caught a big I'm sure
you're going to go to fish.
Speaker 7 (47:03):
I love I love having kids out there catching them hybrids,
you know, and you're catching two something at one or
two and I'm like, okay, I'll get it now. I
grab the ride out here, because you got to be careful, now, Fred,
Actually I've been the hooks in the barbs, oh in
case they ever stuck, but I haven't had it happen yet.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
So you'll come here today with the tiniest hook I've
ever seen and the biggest batch of hooks I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
You know, it's funny. Fred was showing his strike indicator.
Hot water. We used to take remember the old the
pop ars full.
Speaker 7 (47:34):
Size, the big pop bars gets on millions of them, right.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Well, you take that big pop aar and on the
back hook take the take the trouble hook had had
a ring in there. We tie a leader to that
ring and put little MEPs jigs, the little like crappy
jigs or crappy jigs. Put MEPs jigs underneath them and
catch schooling. When the hybrids just start schooling, you throw
that pop ar out there and those those jigs hanging
(47:58):
two jigs hanging below it, and you take that pop
r and blow the water up and they would hit those.
They would hit those little uh, little feathertail jigs in
the in that plus calor river.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
We used to do that a lot.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
That and big popping quarks. But yeah, he do both
of them and that Sometimes you'd catch them on the
bait on top and sometimes you they'd hit that. The
big ones would hit the hit the bait on the bottom. Yeah,
the little ones that come up there and slap the
slap on top. But I like that funny how stuff
crosses over from yeh from you know, it's a it's is.
There's no better sport to me than trying to entice
(48:33):
a fish to hit something that's not natural. That's that
is as a that is a tremendous skill.
Speaker 7 (48:38):
Yeah, fishing for for for bass with lures versus live bait.
It's two totally different.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
Oh yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 7 (48:47):
As of right now, this this past week, I'm at
one hundred and ninety one people this year called their
personal best. Wow, So trying to get two hundred, I
think I we're gonna do it. You want to go fishing, body, sure, okay,
but it's been good.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
What's your personal best twelve?
Speaker 1 (49:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (49:06):
I don't think he's ever been bast fishing.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Have you?
Speaker 5 (49:08):
Oh yeah, oh you have.
Speaker 6 (49:09):
I would, but I mean I didn't ever have a
scale with it. I'm just, you know, killing time with
buddies and we're just having fun.
Speaker 7 (49:15):
And I had someone reach out from the a couple
of weeks ago that that called me about the show,
if anybody has any questions about what we're talking about,
And I didn't explain clearly, like like Charlie says on
the radio, give me a call. You can call me
at eight five oh two six four seven five three
four or email me at Paul tiur Fishing at gmail
dot com. I'm to answer any questions.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
And this is on YouTube, so you can see this
stuff if you look at the pictures and take a
look at all the crazy stuff we talk about. I
hate when we we're not more descriptive sometimes because we
can see what we are talking about.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
This.
Speaker 7 (49:50):
I'm trying to get better at that.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
But you kind of got to go look at the
YouTube channel and you.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Can see my new hat.
Speaker 7 (49:56):
Yes, tell us about that hat.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Okay, this is a custom cowboy a hat that ain't
they made out west to fit me?
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Is that a little cowboy hat?
Speaker 2 (50:05):
That's a wee little cowboy. But they put stuff on it.
Everything on there is unique.
Speaker 6 (50:10):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
So there's a Damascus steel knife that goes on there
that put my initials. They know, like rattlesnakes. I got
a rattlesnake band on it. The feathers, I have a
duve feather because I like that kind of hunting.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
And the peacocks on or my mother she used to
raise peacocks. And then we have two mountain lion claws
and a piece of turquoise. And that's for my wife
because she's part Indian. And of course the claws are where.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
She does scratches.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, it scratches me out of course. I put them
put a bullet on the air because I'm a big
fan of the second moment. And uh and it fits,
I mean it fits. Let me take these headphones off
and you see it. It It actually fits my head. Yeah, perfect,
And I feel like I want to go watch it
the you know reruns a Yellowstone. I mean, I love
(50:57):
this hat. I've been wearing it all day when.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
You wasn't wearing the school on top of the squirrel hat,
did you You've been wearing it on top of the
squirrel head.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Now, well I had to squirrel on today.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
So but.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
What size hat is it?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
It's a seven and eight.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
I think me and my wife are one size apart.
Hers is a six and seventy pounts of I Let's
see you all next time.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
Oh lord,
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