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December 27, 2025 β€’ 51 mins
In this episode ofΒ The Talon Outdoors Show, Charlie, JD, and the crew wrap up the final show of 2025 with plenty of humor, reflection, and straight talk. The discussion ranges from year-end recaps and personal milestones to major changes in firearms regulations heading into 2026. The hosts dive deep into suppressors, tax stamps, shotgun ballistics, and the evolution of modern ammunition, while also sharing real-world law enforcement experiences. The episode rounds out with conversations about rural travel, Southern culture, and why outdoor traditions still matter.


Topics Discussed:
  • End-of-year reflections and personal highlights from 2025
  • Changes to suppressor and NFA tax stamp regulations
  • Shotgun tactics, buckshot vs. slugs, and ammo technology
  • Firearms laws, hunting ethics, and Second Amendment perspectives
  • Traveling through rural Alabama and appreciation for Southern communities

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Talent Outdoor Show.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Charlie, I'm j D, I'm Frou, I'm Captain Paul Tyre,
and I'm grand I.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Can't believe it's been a week.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
I'm wearing this oddly.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
In the office. Say, I'm wearing the same show to
word last year.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
It's sick like I just saw you wearing a different hat.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm still eating this popcorn. It ain't even gonna steal. No,
it's still good. Sitting here on the table. The whole
time is still good.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
It's like the day I got it.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
What opening up, It's still the same time.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Well, I know, but mine's about growing.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
He has some fred ain't that too.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
I'm gonna try to guard it from that man bun
son of man, because he sees it. He'll eat it.
That stuff's good. That kid will eat anything he shows
up at house. I mean, we've got to put a
lock on the frider.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
This is the last. This is the last show of
twenty twenty five. The next show will be twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yes, it is so twenty twenty five. And the rearview mirror, Yeah,
anything we want to recap from the year.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
We didn't get this year that was a bummer.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Well, Oh my fault, fred I thought it was my
daughter's fault. You can blame her.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
I thought it was Travis.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I had to go get married too.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Oh, if you were listening to Travis, I'm coming up
there next year.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
It was one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I taught to him a couple of days ago.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Don't make me have to come up there again.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
We missed y'all this year. We did. I mean, we
missed you. That broke our heart. We didn't get to
go hey, you know, yeah, it happens.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
I'm ready for this year to be over with because
I had two kids get married. Uh, it's just been one.
It's been a financially trying years. May cheaper twenty twenty six.
There ain't no way it can get to be more expensive.
But I'll tell you that after two weddings, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Looking forward to twenty six. I think good things on
the horizon.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Man, I think so too. I think that I think
we're fixing to see a huge turnaround in the economy overall.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Oh yeah, I really do you think anterest rate's gonna
go down?

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
If you haven't, If you haven't already done, so you're
too late to submit your Form four for a even
if you want to pay the tax stamp. So right now,
the federal government shutting down the ATF is shutting down
the application process or the procedure for getting a suppressor

(02:25):
until January first. So when January the second, because the
first is a holiday, January second, going forward suppressors. Short
barrel shotguns. Short barrel rifles still require paperwork to be
legal to possess, but they are taking the two hundred
dollars tax away. That's part of the big beautiful bill
tax cut.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
So yeah, that's coming of the tax cuts that are
going into a fast good.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Just curious to find a short barrel shotgun.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
A shotgun with a shoulder stock, with a stock on it,
with a barrel less than eighteen inches.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
You wouldn't hunt with that, yeah, or you would.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
You could hunt with an eighteen inch that's the sure,
that's the police like the police shot got you that.
You see tactical shotguns, most of them have a eighteen
or twenty.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
My last hunt with it, my last entry gun on
the swat team at Lyon County was a was it
twelve inch barrel? Twelve or fourteen, twelve or fourteen. It
was pretty short, but it had a had a modified
choke on it. And you use that that uh tactical
right flight buck shot with it and man, that thing
at fifteen yards that you to buy a six inch
group of buckshot, I mean control. Yeah, that stuff, that

(03:35):
tactical buckshot. It's got that that wade in it that
holds it together so as it goes. And men, you're
talking about accurate and you know, talking about entry guns
all day long, and you know the frascity of having
a twelve gage shotgun. Well, depending on what you're using
through it. You know, if you've got that much that
what is buck double bucks about.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Thirty three thirty three calibers and there's eight of them.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, and then in a tight group like that, that
is that is effective. Now, Hey, you'd use that type
of buckshot you I used to when I was on patrol.
I carried my shotgun and the first round in the
chamber was going to be a slug, not in the tube.
I would load them backwards because you're you're going to
put them into the chamber and fire them. And the

(04:21):
opposite order that you put them into the magazine okay,
So the one I wanted to shoot first would be
the last one i'd put in the tube, and then
when I worked the action put around in the chamber.
The first one I wanted was a slug, okay. And
my thought process was, if I get out on a
on it. This is before we had the rifles and all.
But I got out with a shotgun on a store

(04:42):
robbery or something, and I need to take an accurate shot.
Say there's a hostage being held by the store clerks,
being held at gunpoint, or the guy standing at the door.
And I wanted the most destructive round, the most effective round,
and the most accurate round. I had that first, the
last one to be loaded, the first one to go
in the chamber was a slug because I could take
an accurate shot with that. Pretty Much everything after that

(05:05):
was buck shot, because I figure, if I don't hit
him on the first shot, he's gonna run. And I've
got that that that improved cylinder barrel, and I've got
that the not the the better buck shot. It was
just the old school nine. Yeah, that at ten yards
is about two feet wide. I mean, that's that old
school stuff. And and I figured if he was running.

(05:27):
I you know, this was buck shot. People shoot deer
on the run when they were dog hunting, you know.
And uh, and I figured that was going to be
an effective second, third, fourth shot. Have along whichever extended
tube I had put on a tactical shot again and
I always had the load out that way. I mean,
I remember to this day. That was my thought process.
And then they came along with this better buck shot

(05:48):
and it was copper plated.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Was all due to the development of better steel shot
for duck hunting. That flight control WAD was first used
in the Federal Black Cloud duck hunting shells. And because
still steel shot doesn't like to be choked, it doesn't
like to be contained it like a when shotgun. Standard
choke system is a constriction at the end of the barrel.

(06:12):
The the end of the barrel where the muzzle is
smaller diameter than the than the boar itself, so you're
squeezing it down right at the end.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Why you don't shoot full choke on steal shot.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Which is why you don't shoot full choke on still shot.
And what happens with stell shot is it gets to
bouncing around inside there because it's still going through a
steel barrel, still shot, and it tends to bounce around,
and when you try to choke it, it gets the
pattern gets bigger, or can get bigger, uh, and you
lose a certain portion of your of your shot shooting
it through a constricted choke. So Federal found a work

(06:47):
around for that and the black cloud shells, and they
started using this stuff called light control. It has little
parachutes built into the back of the wadding that yeah,
I can show you what.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
It's a little.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Little petals that open up in the back that slows it.
That slows that wadding down inside the inside the barrel itself,
so that the shot column separates from the wadden, uh,
inside the barrel. And it makes ship.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Black cloud shells fourt a second.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
I mean you sure can. And but a black cloud
shell through an improved cylinder, even an open choke on
a shotgun barrel, that black cloud shoots really tight. It
shoots like a modified or tighter pattern modified. The shoots
like a full and it's it's It took me the
first time I ever shot at it, and I'm used

(07:37):
to shooting the other stuff, and I, you know, steal
shots terrible. I personally think it's unethical for duck hunting
because you wound you wound so many ducks with it,
you know, instead of killing them clean.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
That much lead goes into lakes. That calls it it
was the main that was the main reason.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Yeah, what do they call that?

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Us fishing while life or the EPA determined that all
the lead in the that the the ducks were eating,
the dabbling ducks were eating the lead off the bottom
of the off the bottom of the lakes.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Virtue signaling yes, that's what it was. I mean, more
more or.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Less, it was difference. I don't think it's made a
difference at all. But you know, lead doesn't even over time.
Lead doesn't really dissolve in water. It may let off
a little bit of you know, it may oxidize to
a slight degree, but not enough to poison.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Anybody typically doesn't migrate very.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Doesn't migrate in the dirt like they act like it's
you know, the state of California treats lead like its radioactive,
you know, plutonium, and it's going to kill you if
you get close to it. And that's just not the
case in California right now. You can't hunt if I'm
not sadly mistaken. You have to deer hunt in California

(08:51):
with copper. Well that you can't shoot lead lead bullets
in California. Copper they have now they forced the industry.
But the cost of a copper projectile like a barns
or a burger. There's two of the big companies that
make copper projectiles for rifle bullets. Whereas you know lead

(09:13):
jacketed lead bullet might cost you thirty cent for the
component itself. Those copper bullets are three dollars apiece. So
they they did all this, Paul, and all in all, honestly,
they probably did all of it to make it very
expensive for somebody to go with.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Ah, Okay, that's fault.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
And there's a lot of people out there that just
think hunts the most horrible thing on the planet. And
humans have been surviving by hunting for since we've been around.
You know, that's that's the reason you find their heads
and you know, cave Art, we're we're at our nature,
we're hunters. But people don't want to hear that.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
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talking about the cost of tax stamps and stuff, and

(10:57):
somebody post to question one of all down there postquestion
what was two hundred Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
To nineteen thirty six when the NFA was enacted and
put a two hundred dollars tax stamp on suppressors, shortbail
rifles and short barrel shotguns.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Two hundred dollars in nineteen thirty six. Now imagine today
in today's dollars was four thousand, six hundred and sixty
one dollars in some odd change with inflation. So if
you walked in if they wrote that law today, that's
the two hundred dollar tax stamp would actually be almost
forty seven hundred dollars in a tax stamp. When nineteen

(11:31):
thirty six, when anybody could have a can, anybody could
have a machine gun, and they wrote this law and
then they said we're going to put a four forty
seven hundred dollars tax on it. That was that was
designed to keep certain people from having them, Folks that
didn't have money, Folks with different complexing colors than the
rest of us. I mean, that's just that's it was.

(11:55):
It was a way to discriminate against people that weren't
the wealthy and the privileged.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
And Sprint upheld it because they said it was tax.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Tacks, and Congress has the authority to tax.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Which is why there's gonna there's some litigation up there
now said wait a minute, y'all just took a taxthority
out of there.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Well, now it's not a taxi at all. Right, Well,
I mean I said, I think if they would, if
they would treat it like a firearm, then you just
go in and buy it like it would a gun
and do it. And I don't even think that you
would have to do that. That would be a regulatory thing.
You know, technically a can shouldn't there shouldn't be anything

(12:33):
on it. It is just a thing that you bolt
onto a gun. You don't have to buy a You
don't have to have a background check to buy the
barrel of the gun, and that's the part that's rifled
that the bullet goes down. You don't have to have
a light, you don't have to have anything. You can
walk in anywhere and buy a gun barrel, no background check, no,
I know, age restriction, right, anybody can do that. The

(12:54):
can is nothing but something that screws on the barrel.
It is part of the gun, is a part of
a gun to the should be nothing on it. Now,
if you want to say, well we want to limit
them to some degree, well then just treat them like
a gun. Put it, just run the background check and
like you do with a gun. And that can come
in by and walk back out again. Don't put any
additional fees on it. I mean, that's middle ground. You know,

(13:14):
you still doing a background check. I just I don't.
I'm a firm believer. You ought to be able to
have a hanger knack, you know, just like you have
a gun. I mean, I just don't think there's anything
you can You can go to anywhere and buy tanner,
right all right, and go out and shoot it and
it blows up. Now, I don't understand the technology behind it, Jed,
he probably does. But you can go out there and
buy you a cup of tanner out, go out there,

(13:35):
shoot it with a bullet and that goes koboom. And
if you pour it in something and shoot that, you
have a bomb. Just that easy. I'm not going to
tell you how to do it, but it wouldn't take
a rocket scientist to figure it out.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah. And in the bottom the bottom line of the
whole thing is that people here's here's my theory on it.
Human beings have been figuring out how to kill other
human beings wrongfully. Since Cain killed Abele. There you go,
since they picked up a rock, all right, they people
are going to figure out europe perfect example, right now,

(14:08):
stuff going on in Germany and some of these other
countries that have highly restricted gun Australia one of the
most highly restricted gun countries and it's an island where
they can isolate people, and one of the most gun
restrictive countries on the planet. And look what just happened
there one somebody, some bad guys managed to get guns.
But over in Europe they don't. You don't see mass

(14:31):
shootings or that kind of stuff in countries in Europe.
What you see is somebody goes and rents a rider
truck and goes and drives it through the Christmas market
and runs people over, or they get a big machete
and run now on the streets of London and cut
people up with a machete.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
And nobody has the ability to find.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Nobody's got ability to fight back. And I made this
analogy to somebody one time. They said, well, you got
a gun and a bunch of kids in the school,
and you like, yeah, well give me a samurai sword.
And I'm not a train to samurai swordsman, but you
give me a samurai sword and you locked me up
in an auditorium or a movie theater full of people
and you lock the doors and I'm the only one

(15:09):
in there with a samurai sord. I'm gonna kill as
many people as I want to kill in that scenario.
If I'm the bad guy that wants to kill people
and nobody else has a weapon, I'm gonna win that
against the whole crowd because nobody's gonna be able to
get within three feet of me without getting getting the
razor blade sword age.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
That just something like just having to Australia.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, there was a mass shooting it in Australia with.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
A with a long rifle bolt action.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Don't have they had a force. They had a in
Australia years ago. They had a forced buy back of people.
They forced the citizens to sell their guns back.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
You could buy certain guns for hunting, and that's what
these people had guns. But they don't have such thing
as concealed carry with people walking around with handguns. Uh,
and you know so they're sitting ducks. I mean you
that's why you think, oh, you've got to have the
second member. That's for hunting. It's not for hunting. No,
it was never designed for hunting. The right of barrel.

(16:08):
I mean a lot of people who own guns are hunters.
But I can't stand it when I pick up and
read some letter to the editor opinion piece and the
guy starts out with I'm an avid outdoorsman hunter.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
As when you know you're about to hear the worst
position on it, it's like, yeah, it's always like a
It's like, now I'm a sportsman, Yeah, I'm an outdoorsman.
Now here's how everything I believe in is actually a propocratic.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
As if that's somehow going to give him credibility just
because you go to a place and go shoot a
pen rais quail.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
No, Well, even in those countries you can go out
and if you are privileged and have the money and
the ability, you can still go and have guns and
access to guns. Sure, but it is the elite, which
goes back to nineteen thirty six when they and past
that it was we want the elite to be able
to to do these things. We don't want the common

(17:01):
man to be able to have these things or do
these things because we don't trust people.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Could that ever happened in America?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Happened six when they banned when they basically ban machine
guns and cans and stuff and put it out of
the reach price wise of anybody. It's just that as
time went forward, we got to where we could afford
it because they weren't smart enough to put in inflation.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
And the silly thing about all of that is the
whole reason that happened in nineteen thirty six when Congress
said threw their hands up because of guys like al
Capone and John Dillinger and all these these highwaymen that
were robbing people and shooting machine guns and suppressors. In short,
they saw the barrels off the end of a bar
rifle thirty six semi auto military weapon. They'd break into

(17:44):
military depots and steal weapons, and they were using them
in crimes. So what do politicians do? Throw their hands
up in there, and everybody starts screaming, we got to
do something. Okay, Well, won't you just catch the bad
guys and put them in jail and make the penalty
for doing bad things to people so severe that it's
a that it they don't do it anymore. They let's

(18:07):
really they come off the street.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
When you you know, I remember when we started the Uh.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, take the bad guys off the street. Get That's
what I'm saying. Put them in jail when.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
They shoot their boats with missiles when they're bringing stuff
into the court.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Ten story.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, actually I like that when went the wall up
and shoot their boats and.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Y'all remember this. I mean back when they started the
boot camp, remember that?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah it worked?

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Okay, Well here's why I worked. We had a list
of bad guys, juveniles showcap called show I remember it
very well, and it was about yes, comprehensive apprehension program.
There you go, and they had all the show I
had a poster in my office. I was prosecute with
all the show Cap people and you know, we all

(18:49):
guys come in. I'd look, it's a show cap guy.
So the first people we put in the boot camp,
and there, prior to the boot camp, they'd shut down
Doser School for boys that there was no level back
then with it called a Level eight program. There was
there was no program that you could securely take these
juveniles off the street. And they started the boot camp

(19:10):
and everybody was all, look how they were re formed.
They didn't get reformed. They took them off the street
and the crime, wait, crime went went out.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Listen. Before the boot camp over opened, Charlie and I
were both cops at FSU probably, and it was nothing
uncommon for us to work ten or twelve or fifteen
stolen vehicles per night. Every night you.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Worked, and we'd arrest those kids, see.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Them three days later before they opened the boot camp.
You'd arrest them and you'd see them two or three
days later doing the same same kids doing the same
thing in the same parking lot. And it's not just
them stealing the cars, it's them wrecking the cars and
running from the police, and we're driving into you can't.
You know, they don't have drivers list, so they don't
know how to do. They go steal cars and wreck
them and hurt people and run over people.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
And share driver to start the thing.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Now, remember remember when you'd see the old cheves and
they had to window broke out in the back and
then you drook up there and it'd be splacked in
the steering column and you run that thing. He'd come
back to second ten.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's memories, right, that's back in the Yeah, anybody that
are listening. That was Florida. Yeah, yeah, sagon all steering column.
General Motors and Chrysler both used some steering columns in
their vehicles that were made in Saginaw, Michigan. They were
called sagon all steering columns. You could break out the
the collar.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
That went around the steering column and clip a little
piece of pot metal in there, and you cranked the
car up.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Didn't take much.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
There was a second.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
I didn't know what splacking. I remember I'd been here
like a week. Yeah, he splacked the car and he
did well.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
If they didn't break the window out, if they had
learned how to slim gym one, they had never gotten caught.
Because we were looking if it didn't have a broke
window in it, we didn't really pay much attention to.
But you'd see that little back window and the poor
folks that got their car back then they had to
run the car with a screwdriver and they couldn't afford
to fix the backlass us and we're stopping.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Thick hands is my car because a lot of times
we would pull them over. That was a that was
a probable cause for stop, whether it came back as
stolen or not, because about half the time it had
been stolen in the person that owned that didn't know
it was stolen. So we're just catching these little guys,
fifteen year old kids stealing cars and robbing people and

(21:27):
using the stolen cars to rob But when they yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
And when they started the boot counting, all of that stopped.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Stopped, like you just immediately, yes, like you put a
barrel over it.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
The only reason it was because the boot camp was
a long program and it got them out of the community.
And it was only a few few It was you know,
small percentage, just a small percentage of the kids committing
ninety percent of the crime.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I would tell you that's probably the case today as well.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Sure, it's just like in washing d c. Trump has
to come in there to make the law enforce people
cooking the books and not putting out what really happened.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Well, those are the high level criminals. They're called politicians. Yeah,
and there and the and the and and management of
government organizations in certain places. And that's that's all over
the place. City, county, government's different all over all over
this country. That goes on. It's just who's gonna get
caught doing it. Play Most of them are honest, god fearing,

(22:29):
above board, you know, doing things right, trying to help
their community. But there's there's some.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
But if you get one in place that's already got
the tendency to want to be shady, They got a
heck of an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
To be shady in some of those cases. We'll be
right now.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
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Speaker 4 (23:42):
Us how there's a wiregrass segment. I thought we were
going into the Wow Win second.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Just we're in the middle of doing two shows back
to back. I have no idea a wiregrass segment. Oh
is it?

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Me and Charlie.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Me and Charlie went over to I had to take
my truck over to the Ford Place to get my
new lighted Lighted Forward emblem installed into my grill on
my truck, as if that thing weren't fancying up the
big Ford blue oval and the grill of my trucks.
When you turn the headlights on, it comes on you.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
It's some running lights on the bottom tibat.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
You get one of those on, don't you get one
of these huge lights? You know?

Speaker 3 (24:19):
No, that's that's not what talk. We left Marianna and
we had to go to Chipley. And left Chipley and
went up to the range up in Dothan to visit
the guys up there, and uh went through uh Sloum
and kind of the back way through all that is
something I'd never been that way before. The Dothan. That

(24:40):
is just beautiful country up there.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
It is the terrain and the fields and stuff.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, just around outside of Dothan out there, you've got
a lot of rolling hills and a lot of cow
pastures and big farms and stuff, and it's just gorgeous
country up there.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I can't figure out why people are buying and building
houses right around the Dad Gam Heliport up there as
part of Fort Rutgers. Novice helicopters over there all day
and then fly around and little helicopter train, little satellite, ma'am.
But something did you see that house that was back
behind it a little bays up there, way out by
a thousand yards off the road is you look out

(25:15):
there and they were building a shuring forest mansion. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
That's my dream house where you can see somebody coming
from driveways about a mile long. Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Well, what I like about the area is and when
I go up there, you know, I spent my whole
career in Tyler Hasse, and I grew up in Jackson County,
but I go to Dothan up there in that area,
that whole region up there, and people are just nice.
I mean, the people are everybody up there. I don't
care what restaurant I go to, what drive through I
go to, where I go shopping. I mean, if they're

(25:44):
just nice, they're just nice people. Even all you can
eat Uka, sushi, Uka, whatever place. And we tore up,
we tore us from all you can eat sushi the
other day. Now, I'm telling you, you get me and
j D around some sushi and we're gonna go through something.
And it wasn't even that.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
It was very well you can eat sushi joint all you.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Can eat sushi and sushi on two thirty one between
those between Oath and those art.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Both of us ate all we could eat, all we
could eat, and it was like forty four bucks with
tea for two of us together.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Japanese guys, y'all love it. Didn't behind next time?

Speaker 1 (26:20):
See there you go, I tell you what you gotta
be like that.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
I enjoyed it was good, but I enjoyed the drive
up there, just I always I'm a I don't know,
I'm a I'm a traveler adventure at heart. I just
love going places I ain't never been before. You been
up to thirty one, Oh, I've been up to thirty
one the bunch of the time. That ain't the way
we went. Fred. You wasn't listening to the story. We
was run up to seventy seven, and then it hit
a bunch of back roads. I don't know where we

(26:45):
was at, but I enjoyed riding there. We came out
on two thirty one. Eventually that's where the sushi joint
was at. Then we came home on two thirty one.
You just go up through Graceville and then go over
over the through Slow them, yeah, slow them out. Just
go through the back way and head over to Middland
City and what follow the GPS and it'll take you ball.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
But the only thing up there is you start to
see all of these beautiful fields and all the farmers
are selling to three hundred feet off of the roads,
you know, just long strips of houses. So they'll build
houses in a road. In their backyards is a cow
pasture or something and a beautiful view out the back.
They're probably making more money selling those lots along the
paved road than they have ever made farm in that land.

(27:28):
And so you won't get a whole neighborhood. What you'll
get is just both sides of the road and it'll
be a small, little, old, barely paved road. But on
both sides it's got houses after house after house after house.
And some of them are nice, big, beautiful ones, and
some of them are smaller, more affordable housing, you know,
and they've got a beautiful view out back. Messes up
my view from the road though.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
You know, yeah, my free view right along there, and
look at the cows.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
I spent a lot of time going up that road.
You know, there's a law school in Birmingham because you
go two thirty one. Yeah, you go two thirty one
all the way up too.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah, my daughter's going to Troy. That's exactly how we
go and all that. But these were little two rout
back roads that I don't even know what the name
of them were.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Little.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
These were just little back roads and uh say two ruts.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
They're upscale pave roads.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, they're nice pave roads, but they're a little small,
two lank, two lane roads as well.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
You don't want to go up down the two rut
roads up there. You might run up on somebody you
don't want to you don't want to meet. You get
in South Alabama, North fl artic places, you just stay
on the back.

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Speaker 1 (29:40):
And we're back.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah, that's it. I was going to tell you earlier
as I was as I was coming back from New York,
got a taxi at the airport riding by, and I
looked up and said, that's the UN building and taxi
driver he didn't missed a beat and he turned around.
He said, yeah, I tell all of my tourists that's
where organized crime meets every September.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
So a lot of truth to that. Probably. Oh, I
can talk about it now because it's we're even of
us the same anyway. So I'm hoping we pulled off
this surprise for the girls for Christmas because we didn't
really know they were this year. Ask them, you know
this this last this Christmas days, what do you want

(30:24):
for Christmas? And they gave us these little, you know,
almost nothing stuff and we're like, you know, we want
to do something more than a pair of shorts and
you know, whatever it is, whatever little stuff that they wanted.
I want some of these cheap earrings from Amazon and
some shorts and some makeup stuff. So and he got
us a cruise and right now when this show airs,
I'm gonna be in the Bahamas.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
So let's see, this show will be airing on.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Jim twenty seventh. I'm gonna be in the Bahamas. We
are leaving so the day after Christmas.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
So this is the last show of the air.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
That's what I said earlier for where were you are
you being started to show.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
It's starting to run together. The wakes are just confining themselves.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
So so yeahs as we speak right now, I'm in
the Bahamas, and uh in Grand Bahama, and we got
a cruise out of out of South Florida, and uh
taking the kids on a cruise, and we're not telling
them about it until Christmas morning. We're gonna say, go
go pack your bags, put on get some some warm
weather clothes, and go pack your bags. We're leaving first

(31:25):
thing in the morning.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
So you should get them like a little ship or
something in a present.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
A little life ring, one of the little Yeah, I
give you a life ring here.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeahs, John, I got.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Time to do that. Yeah. Uh, I might go figure
something like that out, but yeah, they have no idea
we're gonna spring the We're leaving first thing in the morning,
driving down and getting on the getting on a cruise
ship and go to.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Our West Marine and get one of those little captain
hats and there you go, put it in there and yeah,
that's what's got you.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
So yeah, we're going on to Margaritaville, Margaritaville Cruise. And
of course the first thing asked my wife, I said, uh,
they got a karaoke bar and the Margaritaville Cruise. He goes, oh,
yes they do.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
And I'm like, all right, then they got a casino.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
And practice and Noma, I don't care.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
You get your where. You're gonna sing market.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Any sin video, Send me video, take some video.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
What's that song? We have? Fruitcakes?

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Fruitcakes?

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Say? They probably got Buffet music playing everywhere on this thing.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I would think, yeah, so I'm kind of looking forward
to getting up there on the karaoke bar and singing.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Some Uh Jimmy Buffy is gonna roll in his grave?

Speaker 3 (32:29):
No he ain't. I sing Jimmy Buffet's You think you
can get it, Yes, sir, I can pull that off.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
You're gonna wear some cruise wear.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I don't own cruise wear fred I'm probably gonna be wearing. Uh.
I got little short breches and the you know some.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
I got some name one of the shirts that probably
fit you. Now they're too big for me, but I
got I should have brought you some.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
I have some high Waiian Flaherty cameo.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
No, I got some. I got some like downright obnoxious
looking cruise.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
I don't wear that. I'm not gonna wear that, even
if it fits, I'm not gonna. I appreciate that I do.
I thank you for this.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Put you some white shoes and black socks.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
You probably wouldn't wear what to be calm and sure
not the obnoxious stuff.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah, hard pass hats with stuff haired on top of it.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
I went through a phase of my life when I
used to wear the old magnum p I Hawaiian shirts.
See that I wear them. I wear them untucks. I
can have my gun, and.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Did you carry nineteen eleven?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I carried in nineteen eleven?

Speaker 3 (33:33):
They stuck in the I had a I had a holster.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I never cared. I would never carry nineteen eleven stuck
in any gun, stuck just straight my waistbands. Certainly not
in nineteen eleven.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
You trust all them safeties on that.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Well, first off, I suckered rust from all the sweat
in North Florida. And if it's stainless, they stainless, don't
It does stain and sweat the gun, and there's too
many steel parts in there, and that would just be
uncomfortable up against the skin.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
You have like a red fierro or something like.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
That that I had nothing like that.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Fiac there a bout the ferrari I kind of spelled
the same way something battalion sounded.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
I'm curious between you and y'all. Y'all carried pistols just
about everywhere pretty much your whole life. So what I
don't know if you might go to answer this, what
is your favorite pistol to carry?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
The one I'm carrying right now, the Glock Model forty eight.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
I'm carrying a Glock Model forty eight. Why, Okay, Well,
I'll start. I like I like the nineteen eleven because
of the size and that it was thin and it
was not bulky. It was a thin, flat pistol with
a longer barrel on it. Well, the Glock forty eight
is almost identical in dimensions, but it's a polymer glock.

(34:53):
It's reliable. I don't have issues with it malfunction. It's
a nine millimeter. I've got a higher capacity magazine. This
is what fifteen plus one, about sixteen rounds in this
thing right now. It's compact, it shoots extremely well. I've
got a decent set of sights. I don't have optics
on it, but it's just good sites reliable. It's resistant
to sweat and rust and stuff. I just wipe it

(35:15):
off every once in a while, and it just is
very comfortable and inside the waistband holster for me, it
fits really well.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Jad Because I don't ever know when y'all have a
gun on or not, I can't ever tell.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
A lot of the same exact things that Charlie just said.
I will add one to it because it is the
it's just what the glock calls their slim line gun
or their single stack gun. We're carrying double stack magazines
because somebody came up with a double stack magazine for it.
But the thing I like about it the best the
forty eight over the forty three X is that the
barrel and slider about an inch longer, which puts the

(35:45):
front site about an inch further away from my face,
and they're my bifocals. I can see the front sight
on it because of having progressive bifocals where I have
to struggle to find the sights on a shorter slide,
shorter barrel gun. That forty eight is perfect. It's right
there in my.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Same with me.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Prepare that not surprising. I'm a smaller frame than you guys,
and I carry the forty three X for the exact
opposite reasons. It's all preferable because it's.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Much were used to have young eyes.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, that's true too.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
How old are you granted? Yeah, when you're getting to
be fifty seven if I'm when you get to be
fifty seven, when i'm if I'm still around, you come
here and tell me when you trade it in your
forty three X on forty eight JD. I've done it.
I've made I've made it.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
What's your what do you careful?

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Smith and Wesson Bodyguard two point.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Zero, which is a wee little pistol with a lot
of bullets in it. There. That's a fantastic It's probably
the best thing Smith and Wesson has done in a minute.
I mean, they is a fantastic.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Little love that gun. Fetching my pocket, feitxing my hand.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yes, Fred has to dress differently than we do it.
And so is that. Those are great little carry guns.
We sell a lot of them, and they're they're fantastic
little guns. We finally, uh, after about four thousand rounds,
we finally broke the one at the range.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Really.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah, it still functions iss. Yeah, Which those guns, those
little guns like that are not made for constant, constant
getting shot. Ours get shot just about every day and
probably fifty probably averages fifty rounds a day. People go
buy a box fifty rounds, go in there and shoot
it through the gun. Because it's a fairly new to
the market gun.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Prior to that, it was a clock forty two.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, little three eighty clock. That the smallest glock's been
able to make anything is that one. They're capable of
making a smaller pistol if they wanted to. They just
they're just not doing it well.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
And there's I believe or not, there's import restrictions on
certain handguns. The it's called the Saturday Night Special Law
that the federal government came up with and they had
to do some clock had to do something. They don't
have to import them that they don't have to. They
still do import some parts from around the world though,
and they there's some import restrictions on small guns. They

(37:58):
have to pretty much be made in the United States. Now.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Has the terriffs made them prices go up? Remember it
was the tariff that was dealing with that for a while.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
We will see, we will see some some price increases
in the Gen six clocks. We haven't seen the exact
numbers yet, but we've already been told there's going to
be on block at least because some of their guns
and some of their parts are still made in Austria.
Now that the tariffs on some of the countries over
there is not much of anything that's right and uh,

(38:28):
but they will. It's like anything else with inflation and terror,
it's not it's more. I would say it's probably more
inflation than it is teriff related and component the price
of steel, the price of whatever. You know that that
kind of stuff has more to do with the price
of guns going up and down than than tariffs do.
Because there's you know, there's a there's a lot of

(38:49):
a lot of shotguns now made in Turkey, the country
of Turkey they're the biggest, one of the biggest countries
of important farms. They make some good stuff they do.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
Seez where is that man?

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Depending on the gun, but there over and unders are
made in Turkey, make by a company called Hoogloul Good gun. Yeah,
they're good guns. There's several big firearms manufacturers in Turkey
that make primarily shotguns. Because it's easier to import a
sporting gun than it is a self defense there's a
lot of import rules and stuff they have to follow

(39:23):
along that sort of guns. But yeah, they do good.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
I haven't I reckon.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
We'll be back this year.

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Speaker 1 (40:43):
You can have the last one of the year.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
What, Oh, we're back.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
That was good.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
You gotta drag out the and we're back.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Eh, We're back.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Hey, that's better. That's better. I don't know how much
that hurts you to do that. I had to dig
deep on that one.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
I mean I can do you can go low, well,
we can go.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Pretty little too, vibrating the mirrors on the on the car.
I have to get a cold to do that.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
That was that was baby locked them.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah. I can't even do that right now. But if
I get a little bit of doors and.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's never been a bass, a little more
of a baritone maybe.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Well maybe all I got is bass.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
That's it I got. I got. You know Megan Trainer lately,
she's the one sings all about that bass and I
love her voice.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
H there ain't nothing to her left anymore.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
She kind of up. She's kind of them fat shots, buddy.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
It's a fat shots. She got on them, guarantee you.
And I saw a picture of the like, who is
the chick that is Megan Trainer?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Like have you seen have you seen jelly roll lately?

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, he lost a bunch of weight.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Like four hundred pounds, three hundred pounds.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
I wonder if a shot.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Hole roll it confirms the theory that most people are
generally attractive, you just need to lose weight.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Pretty much.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
It ain't help me a bit if it lost.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
That might have been the most defensive thing I've said
on this shot.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Well I want to. I mean, I ain't make no
secret about it. I took those shots so tries up tight,
and I lost fifty pounds. I got off my blood
pressure medication I've been on since I was twenty six
and I'm fifty nine, so I don't bloo pressure meds anymore.
Just from losing weight, just from losing weight, it changes
the way you eat. Okay, so it's a lot of
us die. I'm also off of my cholesterol medication because
it changes the way you eat and the way you

(42:51):
process food. Now I'm not diabetic. I'm not even close
to it. But I got all that stuff. It's the
compounded version of it, the generic stuff, And I saved
more money than my regular medication prescriptions. Then the stuff
costs me to take. I take a shot once a week.
I'm just staying on and I just found this a
better lifestyle for me, and I spend less on groceries.
I don't eat as much. I don't I'd had a

(43:12):
fred gave US's Reese's peanut butter cups, and that's as
close at that. I'm gonna have to a candy bar.
And so I started stuff like four or five six
months ago. I dropped fifty pounds in no time. I've
kept it off.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Hungry all the time or no, that's the.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Thing is you don't get hungry. And the other thing
I've done is I started weaning myself off caffeine. And
I'll drink a pepsi once a day or something, and
I'll che choose some neurogum which is the caffeine gum.
And I was drinking two three monster any drinks a
day and was fifty pounds overweight. And I don't drink
monster I don't drink.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Those anything last drinks are not good for you.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
It's you know, no, they're not good for you. None
that's good for you. I'm healthy, er, feel better, pain free,
you know, just I don't get winded as easy as
life is something now, I had to go down two
sizes and clothes and you know, but that's uh so,
you know, some people call it cheating. Somebody asked me
to this. You can take those fat shots, did you,

(44:09):
I said, matter, Well, if you can call us what
you gonna call it. Yeah, but it's a healthier lifestyle, yeah,
I mean, because you don't have the cravings. And if
you like me, I'm not addicted to pretty much anything.
Maybe a little caffeine addiction that's sort of wink, but food,
I'm addicted to eating. I would. I used to ride
around a patrol car with a bag of jelly beans
next to me because I was bored, and I'm running

(44:31):
around eating jelly beans all night long. And if it
wasn't that, I couldn't watch TV without snacking the whole.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
That's my problem right there. I can't sit down and
watch TV show fast cop.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
I need to have a bag of jelly beans.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Don't do the donut thing. The donut thing don't work.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
I wouldn't recommend that jelly bean might get mad.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Maybe so you know some skittles something. Yeah, I just
you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I couldn't control myself. I mean, now there again, because you.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
Can definitely notice it this year, y'all isn't wait My
god is yeah, I'll hotel.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
I lost forty pounds, down forty pounds, and I hadn't
been on the I quit taking the shot about two
months ago. Now as I came back about it, I
came back about three pounds.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
And you can go up and down three four pounds
in a couple of days.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
That's just a matter of you know, yesterday, yesterday we
you know, eat all the all you can eat sushi
and uh. And then I got home and my wife
had gone and there it was her parents' anniversary, and
bought a brought them home some longhorn steakhouts, brought me
home misteak and a baked potatoes, and I wasn't gonna
not eat that, so I ate lot yesterday. You know,
I'm probably up a couple of pounds right now.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
I got home after eating that lunch, and I was
not hungry at all.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
I wouldn't let around.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Like nine o'clock, I went there and made me a
turkey turkey sandwich.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I absolutely was not hungry. But I was sitting there
looking at that beautiful steak and that that's baked potato
all the way and in the salad, and I was like,
I'm before.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
Y'all eat sardines out of the can.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Heck you, especially if they got mustard of hot sauce on.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
I eat anchovy and out of sardine.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
I love so. I love the hearing steaks and the
sardines and hair.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
I love the hair in steak. You know, no, I
picked the hair off the steak.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
That ain't nothing.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Something a good job, butchering that one. Somebody wasn't wearing
a hair in it in the kitchen. Money in my mouth?

Speaker 5 (46:24):
Is this her last segment? Yeah, yeah, Babs segment of
the Working for January. All right, Fred had a last
A couple of weeks ago. I came and I was
I showed you these Alabama rigs. Yeah, this is about
the best time of year for fishing.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
This is the time to fish the Alabama.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
Rig Yes, but I want you to see this. How
much how big this bait is?

Speaker 4 (46:45):
That's a big bait?

Speaker 5 (46:45):
What kind of show this on the screen. See I
didn't caught something already.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
It's that one's statch one that is a big bait.

Speaker 5 (46:52):
See that. But look they came out with a smaller.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Bird, so they got a small Alabama.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
I was thinking when Fred goes he could actually this
one kind where you're out casting this but this this
is like from a one sixteenth to a about a
three sixteen sous jighead. Sound like that is Do you
imagine throwing that thing out there and bringing.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
These things will wear you out fishing for those things
because flip flipping stick with fifty pound test braid and
that's right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
It's like they hit that Charlie, they will about jerked
or rod out of your hands.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Those that don't can't see this on YouTube. That's that
thing that looks like a chandelier that you're fishing with
multiple little spoons and stuff on whatever to call it
little jackheads little Jakehead Alabama rig. Now there's a Liberty
County rig. But one of all it is is one
of those legs is missing.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
You didn't catch that, Yeah, I got.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Sorry. Sorry.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
If you from Bristol and there's a walk callard's missing
a couple of tea.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
You're picking on folks from your side of the river.
There's Blootstown people from my side. Don't leave the Bristol
folks along. That's my side of the river that you have.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
To drive too far from Bristol to get to me
to do anything.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
And I tell you what, Jada, you know this time
of your crank bait fishing is very good.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
This is a.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
Strike king five x D. See it's got that little tongue,
that thing and get down about twelve fork.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Bring how much money? Old Kevin Van And I want
to show you all this this bait here, who is
that this is throwing their little bit shaller.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
This It comes like this like a rattle trap. It's
a it's a crank bait, but it's not a crank bait.
You don't fish it like like these where you rod
loads up. This is more like a power bait. And
this one here if you look has no sound. They

(48:46):
don't come that way. What I what I did is
I drilled a hole and made the barons not and
then actually put on my split ring. I actually use
braid as the trouble hook to tie the trouble hook
makes it completely silent. That way you can kind of
sneak up on them. The other day I was talking

(49:08):
to him suppressed.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
That's suppressed fish.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
It's a suppressed hybrid hunter. And what I've actually been
working on them.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Look scared and mad at the thing and bite.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
This has got liquid in it. I got this idea
from their salt, from the what that gun sauce. They
make the clean stuff. But look here see the liquid.
So when this, when you reeal this back down, a
regular one will rise real fast. In the winter. You
want to slock. You want to slow right or sit.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Still, spind he's got ballanced in this suspending.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
It's quiet.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
So you got neutra.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
This one here will back up to him and stay level.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
It is so cool.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
But how do you back up a lure?

Speaker 3 (49:51):
When you let this, When you let this slack, when
you when you stop the bait and give it a
little bit of slack, it'll it floats backwards because all
the airs in the back.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
End makes a big different goes and reverse. That's right.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
You throw to it and it kind of it'll swim backwards.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
When it's swimming, Fred, When it's when you're pulling it
through the water, the lip on the crank bait makes
it kind of orient nose down, so your ballast is
that way. When you let the slack on the line,
it'll till back level out.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Back up, and you're real.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
But he's good, I gonna fall because it's utually boy,
it's just back.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
Think about this rod's bent. I'm throwing this on a
medium heavy action rod, so it's bent, and so when
I stop it, I throw the ride back to it
and that braids flight.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
So the idea is you're gonna throw this out and
go past the fish and back up to him. Well,
and then he's gonna bite us.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
Yes, all right if you once you see it on
Live Fred, you'll get us like going to a movie kind.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Of, we're gonna be reading about all tire and his
whole line of fishing town custom.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
Lures, custom lures guys. It makes a difference.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Man, Guys have been doing stuff like that. My grandaddy
would take red fingernail polish, paint, Paint a red stripe
on the side of a shad bait to make.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
It like a different charge. Paint in my talking rock
and all the tweet stuff. Now I'm putting glitter inside
of them, in the liquid and just give attle light
reflection school.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
There. You you spent a.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Lot of time at hobby lobby, Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Yes, I'm not gonna tell you where you got the
other one. I'm telling my wife at that the other night.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Well, all right, folks, will y'all have a happy New Year?

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Ye
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