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-- Tom Selleck and other movie star shooters.
-- One listener hates the new music on Gun Talk and votes for Ted Nugent's "Come And Take It."
-- Another vote for including the .30-30 lever action in the 4-gun challenge.
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-- Tom Selleck and other movie star shooters.
-- One listener hates the new music on Gun Talk and votes for Ted Nugent's "Come And Take It."
-- Another vote for including the .30-30 lever action in the 4-gun challenge.
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
So you've made it through or three hours of the
regular show on terrestrial radio and you wanted a little
bit more.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
So that's why you found.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The gun Talk after Show podcast where we saved all
the best things that we can't say on regular radio.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Now, if here's Tom, Michelle and Jim for the gun
Talk after Show.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
We don't muck you around here. Hey, this is Tom Gresher,
but this is the after show that will make some
sense to you in just a few minutes now, folks, Hey, Jim,
Kenzie Michelle, hell my friend. Hello, Hey buddy for gun
story that everybody likes that.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Uh huh yeah, I've been doing that forever. I haven't
decided mine. It changes every year.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well yeah, look, I can debate this for hours with myself, right,
I don't need anybody else on this one. Now, you're stupid.
That's a bad Yes, I am.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I oh, well, you know there's also that one that's
right on.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
The other hand, and you know what, you know what
I overlooked? Yeah, everything exactly. Oh lordy, well, let's do
the whole four gun thing. Let's go grab gim on
line five out of Oregon City, Oregon. Hey Jim, what's
your choices?
Speaker 7 (01:33):
Yeah, good afternoon, Tom, Yes, sir. My four favorites are
my Savage one ten, cl In two seventy mm, Marlin
three thirty six in thirty thirty, and I have a
new CZ left handed drake in twenty gauge.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Okay, Trump, I'm catching up. Are your other rifles? Is
your savage and left handed? You bet it is? Okay?
All right, So you're a wrong wrong handed shooter like me.
I love that. Alright.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Well, I'm right handed, but I'm left right.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Say you here? Okay? And what is what's number four
on your list?
Speaker 7 (02:16):
Number four is the CZ seventy five b BB and nine.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Milimeter streat gun.
Speaker 7 (02:22):
Nice's it's heavy, but deadley.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I'm trying to find a problem with your list and
I can't.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well, for me would be the fact that they're left handed. Primarily, Well,
I'm loving this.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
This it works great for me.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
We don't discriminate against the handicap.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Oh now listen, No, that's a fine lineup of two
seventy thirty thirty a shot gun and a nine milimeters pistol.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You know, some would say maybe we would want to
slide a twenty.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
Two in there, but you know, oh no, I've got it.
I've got a couple of those. But but they don't quite.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Make the four list. That's the problem, isn't it. It's like,
you know, if I could make it five or six,
I could really you know, I could add to this.
But there we are.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
You're nine pretty easy, Yeah, eight or nine? I like it,
just just a piece of information. My old one ten
cl I bought it in nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Wow, you've had that.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
And it's uh, it's still in perfect condition. It it
shoots about until inch and a half of the hundred
yards on a real regular basis. My first, my.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
First center fire rifle. Well, the left handed Savage one't
ten and seven mag And you know, you can just
do anything you want to do with that. They just
work their ugliest I mean, it doesn't matter if you'd
like drop them down a mountain, because they start out ugly.
They're going to end up doesn't make a different. I wouldn't.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
I wouldn't say ugly.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I like mine.
Speaker 7 (04:12):
It's still all original except a stripped and finished the
stock here a while back, and it looks good again.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Okay, all right, I don't know. I just always thought
that that barrel nut arrangement they have for attaching the
barrels looks terrible, but it's incredibly smart. It's a brilliant
system for changing out barrels, and you know, it just works.
So I guess beauty is then the performance in this case.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
And I've got a Leopold two to seven on top
of it.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
That's a great choice.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
That is a really good choice. And people don't understand
how good those are. You know, good on the low power,
and seven is enough for you want to shoot out
to four hundred yards. Seven is fine for that.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Absolutely. I've got a two to seven Compact on the
Marlon three thirty six and it really looks nice and
it works great.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well, that's interesting, Yeah, why not. That's a good choice too.
I like your lineup. I like your choices. Well, thank
you all right, afternoon, are you t thanks for the call. Well,
let's say if Greg is still hanging in there with
let's say, Greg, you're still.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
There, Yep, I'm here.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Oh we couldn't shake him.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I hang up on in that.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
Yeah, go ahead, yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Now, I know what we're gonna do. We're gonna play
some of our intro music.
Speaker 8 (05:36):
Oh great, Yeah, I cringe every time I listened to
the beginning of your show for that very reason. I
know we're about the same age. I'm seventy three, and
you know, I don't know that music that you do have.
It sounds like a bunch of chimpanzees broke into a
(05:58):
music store and thought they could play the instruments. But
my idea on this is there's another talk show named
Joe Peggs. I don't know if you listened to him
or not. Yeah, okay, Well, Ted Nugent gave Joe one
of his songs to use for his intro music, and
that is love Grenade and and uh and thinking of
(06:24):
that though, you know Ted, real good tool Ted, and
ask him if you can use his song come and
Take It that he wrote during Biden I think when
Biden was trying to take away assault weapons again that
(06:45):
Ted did this song called Come and Take It and
it's it's really cool because he's actually singing in it somewhat,
you know, somewhat.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
It's about you, Greg.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
We're still waiting for your demo to make it here
to listen to yours, your submissions.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
But you know, come and take it. That's not a
bad idea. Yeah, we could do. We could go with that.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
You put a bunch of monkeys out of work though.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I mean, well there's that, you know, Uh, you got
to have a new band though it's called like, you know,
the Ransacking Monkeys or something.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I like that idea.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Wait a minute, here we go. How did Ted would
go for that? Yeah, that's not a bad thought. We'll
run that past him. Now. The thing is we should
explain that you may not know, Greg, is that that
(07:45):
music is actually Jim and his musician buddies. They put
that together. It is a custom original music done for us.
So you're talking to the man right now, so he
can just beat up on it that it's fine.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
We do well.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, some people says a musician, and others don't. So see.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
And I'm not even a drummer, Otherwise I would have applied.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
That's right. You say, what do they call a guy
that hangs around with musicians. They call him a drummer. Drummer, right,
that's right. I appreciate the call, sir. Good stuff. We've
had a lot of things going on and I got
to play. You know, I really had fun with this,
to deal with this twelve year old getting him fixed
up yet with the rifle.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
That's cool.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
We can talk a little bit about that when we've
come back on the backside here, and actually we could
talk about anything we want to, because you know what
nobody's the boss about there.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
You have it.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Put all your gear on the chiciry and then roll
around on the ground. Now, get up all your gear
that's on the ground. That's what you're not going to
have in a fight.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Gun Talks should be in your podcast feed.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Check out gun Talk Nation.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
What's it like to be blown up?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
You know if it's like C four, it's almost like
a smack hunting.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Yeah, we talk about that too. On your crosshairs, I
like a thin crosshair.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
And you're really dating yourself by calling things cross hairs.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
You're redical whatever. Have some fun and stay informed with
the gun Talk podcast.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
All right, So we're just laughing you silly things that
we do. The guys over at FBN and then make
really nice guns or the standard jokes, just like yeah, yeah,
show me some of those fin guns you got.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Wow, that's a nice gun. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's like yeah, I know, we never heard that before, right, right, right,
it'll go on.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
There's no end.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
We are actually all just like kids. They're like infantile.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Oh sure, yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Speak for myself, okay, I meant where he stood.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Hmm. Oh lordy. Well okay, so my little thing for
the week was doing this surprise reveal to this kid,
and that was cool. It was fun. I was at
his dad. Let us be a part of that.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
We should get the money after show next week.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Well, what we're going to do is we're going to
get him to call in once he gets his deer.
We have a we have a plan.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
A plan you say, and certain evil laughter here.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You've got to walk yeah, and hands together.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I did. I did, Like our guys. I don't know
why this maybe who had combined the two different powders
and the canister, and you know, it's like we all
know where we're going to end up on this, right.
It's like, because you're not the first person.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
To do this, right, right, and even if you dumped
it was right on top and you could see it
and distinguished by color whatever.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Nope, Nope, that's just a huge still is one of
those inviolate rules. That's a big no. You're not doing this, yep. Yeah,
Or if you are, you're going to stand at the
other end of the line when you're shooting, because I
don't want to be more close to you, thank you
very much.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yep. But you can buy fertilizer way cheaper than you
can buy where that is.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
That's the problem, right, But it really hurts. What the
cost of powder?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
What's the poblem go for nowadays?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It depends but forty sixty dollars.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I've seen it eighty Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, it's ending.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, it depends on what you're buying. Yeah, but I
tell people, I said, I hold your hand up in
front of your face, so yeah, okay, now pick one
of your fingers. Yeah, which one do you want to lose?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Oh god?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Oh okay, I think I'll pour this out in the
lawn now, yeah, that part.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, well, you know, it does bring up a good point.
And he said he brought them in one at a time. Unfortunately,
whatever happened happened. But this is just as important as
always talking about making sure the mega zene is out
of the gun unloaded, saying out loud, my gun is unloaded,
checking the slide a couple of times before you do
(12:07):
any kind of dry firing or holster work or anything else.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Right, I mean, he knew what the answer was. He
was just hoping that you would say it was okay. Yeah, yeah,
he knew, Yeah, he knew.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, we all knew. It's like, okay, we're just going
to go down this road, but eventually we're going to
throw all this powder away.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
And if you look a look at the naysayers viewpoint
lot devil's advocate position here, would anything happen?
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Well, what kind of gamble do you want to take?
Fifty bucks and you're and you were right? Okay, well
you say fifty bucks, fifty bucks and you're wrong. You
would pay way more than fifty bucks to get those fingers.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
But maybe you're only okay with the first shot.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah right, you know, now, if you're reloading to sell
the AMMO.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Sure these might work. This is do not guaranteed bats shut.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
How many pairs of safety glasses do you own?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Well, you might want might to put them.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
All on double up. And that does kind of bring
that up too. With being careful of who you buy
remanufactured and ammunition from.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I've kind of gotten where I just don't. Yeah, yeah,
it's you know, I mean, if it's somebody I know
who's really competent, I would shoot their AMMO. Remanufactured AMMO
probably not at all. And people go, yeah, well it's fine,
they've been making AMMO for a long time. Yeah, I know,
I got it. And the cost difference is like what
(13:31):
two cents around?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, what about the factory reloads because there's companies that
specialize in that.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yeah, what's the difference between a factory reload and a reman.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's basically the same thing, Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It is, And I don't know where the line is
between yes, because there are large companies that actually they
make AMMO. They're a factory. They're just using once fired brass.
That's really all it is. Okay, it's a factory and
you save a little money on.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
It forty cents a box. Is it worth it?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
That's the question is how much are you saving and
is it worth it? And look, I know a lot
of people who have shot tens of thousands of rounds
of that ammo and just not had a problem. And
there are some companies that make really good ammo with them,
so I'm not trying to bad mouth them. I'm just
the ones that bother me is the guys they've got
(14:26):
gun stores and they've got like a ziplock bag of.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Ammo rightshows, gun shows?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, how about No, I'm just walking right past that one.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Well, COVID kind of brought out all those people that
had a box of ammunition from nineteen twenty.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I've got a ziplock bag of ammo and now you go,
notice they're not all the same caliber.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Or manufacturer or anything else on the back. That's fine, Yeah,
that's fine.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
No, what you get is it's probably fine.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Sign here.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah right, But do you see it all the time,
ammunition in the in the little baggies with no information
on it.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
And you can get the one shot brass.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
I mean people sell one shot brass, Yes, but just
try to find one shot primers or one shot powder
nowhere nowhere to find them anywhere.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Well, all over the floor of the range.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Find it's actually in that guy's yard.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
We're gonna go back to the probably beginning yeah, mixed up.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
But you know what you do is you go down
the road in your neighborhood when you find a yard
where it's really green.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Shooter, got cool, you've.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Been practicing your love and gets an issue.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Eh.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I ever saw a thirty seven foot rose bush, but
that's a nice one.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
This is the new hodgeden miracle grow.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah. Oh we've done that, though, I'm sure you have to.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I have done that also. Powder that is old enough
where you are a little bit suspected to thinking it
might be okay, but the mic part bothers me and go, yeah,
I just go pour it out, well, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And I don't know if Jim does or not, but
I know you're aware of this when they had the
cardboard canisters and they were like the really big, what
five pound canisters with just the tin top and bottom,
and it just right.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
But people still have some of that stuff sitting around.
So if it's taken care.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Of and it doesn't work both ways, you can't use
fertilizer as gunpowder right as far as strangely enough, it
will ignite well for some fertilizer of course obviously has
been used and explosive right right right.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And you notice there's a similarity. If we say you
can use this fertilizer when it's gunpowder, you go, oh,
then fertilizer must have some stuff in it, especially the nitrogen,
nitro cellulos or whatever it is. So you could conceivably
in the what's the name of that book, the anarchist book? Yeah, yes,
(17:04):
remember that? Yeah you could.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah. They banned that, didn't they.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Oh? Probably, you know. It's like, yeah, that's that's why
we like it, right, It's like, is it banned? I
want one?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Talking about thirteen year old boys nightmare? I mean, it's
the worst thing you could give them.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh lord, they have a cheat sheet for burn rates
on fertilizer, going okay, don't you.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Just go to your thing. I don't want you where
close to that one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
So I was talking with my rip with Scott's.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Lawn, and now that they're wrapping three gun I thought maybe, yeah,
to sponsor.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Them up, calling Hornaby or a Hodgett or somebody being like,
I would like some information.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
You know, I'm not sure using our shooting team is
sponsored by Scott's right.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Oh my, but you're green. See that's good, that's true.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Look how green we are?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
That's how we get the libs into shooting. We tell
them famili you go, I like that sometimes greenly you know.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Actually, and you know, Taron Butler said, he says, look,
I don't care about politics. That don't ask people about
their politics. You can imagine how many of those movie
star sites teaching to shoot are pretty darn lefty. Oh yeah,
but they're buying guns. And once you get them to
do that, it maybe not completely, but it definitely changed
(18:32):
their position on things.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Unless they take the mindset of well, but I'm famous
and I'm rich, I'm a target. You know, the average
guy still doesn't need one right here.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, there's there's some of them. Tediatrician, but that was
a fun interview though, that was that was great. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I hope he instructs lots of women. And I say
that because they're the ones that would be okay with it,
or if they're okay with it, they would be more
likely to introduce it to their children rather than hold
them back from that potential education.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
He teaches a lot of actresses, Yeah, Diaz and Cameron Diaz,
Holly Berry, obviously Sweeney's there's a lot of them. If
you start looking for videos, uh, people shooting with Ary Butler.
You'll see a lot of.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Them there, well, Halle Berry and all you know.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Oh geez oh, jim, let me just tell you. And
everybody knows who's seen him and knows what I'm going
to say. If you start looking at the videos, you're
going to see some of the most attractive women shooting,
and they are shooting lights out. They're so good. But
they're also hot as a firecracker. So I don't know
(19:45):
what that deal is. I don't know what his secret is,
but there.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
There it is road Flood.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
That's okay. We don't question Tom Selleck either, So fine, that's.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Because he's a Tiger Fano ways, okay, sure the Tigers.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
That's yeah, yeah, huh. And my wife says, well, it's
okay if we watched quickly on under again.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Okay, I've never seen this one before, nice dimples.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Although I will say I saw I don't even know
what the name of it was. I came in in
the middle of it. But a different cowboy more I've
never even seen before with him.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
And I think Sam Elliott was it Mellett?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yes, yes, I've seen that. Not a good movie. I
mean it was kind of mediocre. Listened to her is
there a? Didn't really notice.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It didn't have any volume to it, but it was fine.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
How long did it run? Not long enough?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Well if okay that, if you haven't seen him, you
got to go find the Jesse Stone movie as he did. Okay,
they are really good.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
There's a series of them.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
It's it's like six or seven and they are very
slow paced. They're not frenetic, they're not They're just a
different pace and you settle in and it's really cool.
I'd like that whole series of movies. All right, there
we go. You can find those online, you know. I
don't know if it's Netflix or some ice Flue or something. Yeah,
(21:16):
I look for the Jesse Stone movies and you'll he
once you watch when you go, oh okay, I get it.
If the pace is very different and some interesting characters
and how he goes about things, and go, okay, this
is very much not like his other movies. But as
I say, he carries a cool I think it is
a maybe it's either a gun Sight or a thunder
(21:38):
Ranch nineteen eleven, because you actually see the logo on
it at some point. Oh no kidding or it's his
personal gun. Oh cool. Oh yeah, he uses personal nineteen
eleven in the movie. I thought he shot in that.
Oh no, no, not not Jesse Stone.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
I must be confusing it with the other.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Yeah. No, this he is a modern day police chief
and Paradise, Maine.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Oh, it's totally something different I'm thinking of.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Oh okay, yeah, no, there's there's a Obviously he's done
westerns and all, but this is not a Western. This
is a modern era.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I'll have to check that out. Yeah, I think I'm
enjoy him.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'm a fan of that Detroit boy.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Oh I didn't realize he's from Detroit.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
I believe so he's Tiger's fan too.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
He's a Tiger's fan. Is he from Detroit?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
I think he's from Detroit. I don't know, but I'll
know before the end of the segment. Huh.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
You speaking of the resale value on p. Three twenty
nice segue, wasn't it. That's smooth?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Not smooth, but yeah, you're pointing not smooth.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
But okay, since we hit a speed bomp here, thank
you very much. Quiet there.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
They look like they're holding pretty decent. You think everybody
would panic and dump them for nothing. Well, how do
you know, Well, go checking price a gun broke. I
don't necessarily you're looking at you're looking at asking price, trip.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Are you looking at selling price? I have not.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
I haven't getting that deep because I was actually working
for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
They actually have a thing you can click on and
see what they sold for. Huh yeah around Yeah. And
what I found is interesting is that how many guns
I'm watching now on my watch list who time out
with zero bids on them because somebody put a initial
price on it that was so high and nobody was
going to pay it.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Well, you're talking about all guns, not just the three twenties.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yes, all guns, Yeah, not just three.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Have you seen something different on the three twenties as
far as.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
No, I've really not im. I think it's got to
affect the price.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Yeah, that's kind of why I looked it up to them,
and they said, man, you think people are are dumping this,
you know.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
But maybe not. Like I said, you got a lot
of people that are saying, yeah, that's not true, you know,
And I'm not buying into it. So I wish I
knew where to fall on this, but I completely.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Don't got you it'll come to fruition here.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, we'll all figure it out at some point. We'll know,
but it is certainly a I think it's a major
threat to seeing the company, absolutely if it were to
turn out that that's a real thing and they're gonna
have to do something with either recalls or whatever. And
I don't have any idea what happens.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
With the military that's going to say. Those are huge
contracts with the military, and not just their handguns. I'm
sure there's other things out there.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, yeah, because they have military contracts for I think
one of the new machine guns, and of course the
the the Fury. It's the two seven seven Fury, the
new cartridge that has eighty thousand PSI yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
so yeah, who knows. I don't know. And then I
(24:35):
just saw something went by in a flash this morning
and this may not even be true. I got to
go look this up. That Glock is making some kind
of they're focusing more on military law enforcement and cutting
back on the guns that are going to be offering
the public or selling to the public.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Oh no, cult tried that, don't do it.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, I know it is alluring. You say, we can
get a multi gazillion dollar do contract. And the problem
is you get right into the middle of it and
you're geared up for it, and then they cancel the contract. Right,
that's what happened to Colt.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Oh my gosh, so many times. I mean Colt wanted
a bankruptcy. I don't even know how many times.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Yeah, And the contracts are definitely written to the government's
advantage obviously.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Well, they can't just walk away. Yeah, they could do
anything they want. First of all, they say, okay, and
we could become we're in first in line on everything.
Everything you do has to fall behind us anything we want,
and yes, we can cancel at anytime. It's crazy. So
but it's like a guy I knew way way back
when Walmart first got started. He made spinner baits. And
(25:40):
he said, yeah, I'm selling to those guys up in
Arkansas selling them spinner baits. I said, well, don't they
beat you down on costs. You probably don't make much
on each one, he says, No, I don't make much
on each one. He says, but they're buying like five
hundred thousand at a time. Wow, Okay, got it, understand, Yeah,
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Well, just build up your manufacturing or have separate manufacturing
for military and police, because I'm sure that's kind of
what SIG is doing or has done.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, they'd have to be maybe
separate facilities. But even if you did that, if you
based spending, let's go out and spend fifty million dollars
on the plant. Yeah, and that's still at risk if
the contract goes. I mean, we're speculating at this point,
and I need to chase let me just say, I
need to chase down the Block story because they went
(26:30):
by this morning when I was prepping for the show.
In it it's one of those that sounds like it's real,
but you're not sure yet. So I need to get
a little more information on that.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, because there's enough Block people out there who man
or something. Yeah, something like that happened, and they they're
no longer selling.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
They're smart to license their stuff to somebody else to
make under their name or something.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
You know, the more I think about it, more I
think that can't be true. That can't be a real story.
So I just can't even imagine that they'd say we're
not going to sell to the survey market. That doesn't
make any sense at all.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I would hope not.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah, I wouldn't think. So they make good guns, that.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Would be a whole revel First of all, they revolutionized
the plastic world. I mean they were the first ones
to bring it out, and everybody's like, oh my goodness, Tupperware, Adult, Tupperware, Combat.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Tuperware, the plastic fantastic. Yes.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Oh, you couldn't even get the lid back on the
case when you opened it up with the guns came.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Spend a lot of time messing with it.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
But yeah, I mean they've kind of they've taken commercial
by storm, and that would be terrible.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah. I think it'd be interesting to know what the
percentage is that they have up the pistol market.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I bet it's a lot, though, I gotta believe so.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
God, even if you only have five percent of the
pistol market, if you're doing great, oh, I bet they
have quarter if you had just five.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
If you have five percent, but I bet they have
a quarter of it more. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Well, and it's still the same molds that that are
the go tos.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's the nineteens, it's the forty three, it's the forty two,
it's those really heavy hitting air quote common unquote guns
that people are still going after because they fill such
a great niche spot out there and it doesn't matter
what you do with them.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
It was interesting. We had two calls today on the
RUGA r x M yes, and they were like raving.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
On these loving them.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
So.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
You know a cool thing about Glock is they recently
updated their their production music.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
It's called Classical Gaston. You may have heard of it.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Oh my no, just just just no, just yeah, Mason Williams,
I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there are like three
of us that got that. No.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
And born in January twenty ninth, nineteen forty five in Detroit, Michigan,
Tom Selleck.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
So now your life's complete knowing this a little bit
of tribute there.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, thank you?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Which makes him?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
How old? Older than me? Still?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
What year was he? One forty five?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
So he's coming out five one eighty one right now?
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Wow? Okay, I'm sorry, let up. Well you know he's
held well my still work.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I'm sorry. I'm just embarrassed for you.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Cut out this excerpt and send it to the chance phone.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I'm speaking so funny, do you know what?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
As if he doesn't, I'm just talking on behalf of
all the other women out there.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Were the phones tonight we have Smitt and Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well that's okay, you know, but dimples.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
In the in the little eyebrow raising. Oh yeah, I'll
get you every time.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Okay, So did you guys see the follow up? As
long as we're going there, Uh, you got the Sidney
Sweeney thing right. And you know she is, you know,
really attractive. She did the Blue Gene commercial for Girl.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I feel like she's very well in doubt. Okay. So
Taren puts out a follow up video of her shooting
and of course in competition, these guys are shooting so
fast and they're always measuring their time between shots. You
see where I'm going with this, And the title of
(30:34):
it is Sidney Sweeney has great splits. Oh my sho.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
As long as she's cool with it.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Oh yes, she used to having a ball with the
whole thing. It's like, oh, this is all silly at
this point. Oh my god, it was just so silly.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yes, I think it's awesome that they put her up
in Times Square.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Oh yeah, I think American eagles, great American Eagle. They
did not run away from this at all. Yep. It
was like, I think somebody said their stock went up
twenty or twenty five percent or something. It was crazy.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Ow.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
They looked at bud Light and they looked at Dick's
Sporting Goods and said, you know what, We're going to
stick to our guns here.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Punning under right, And the atmosphere has changed under Trump.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Oh yeah, because now you can actually say what you're thinking.
Without is dead.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Woke is dead. So yeah, now, it's been fun to
watch this whole storyline, you know, and the fact that
when you look into it, you go, oh yeah, she
works on her own car, she does transmissions and engines.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
And never heard her name prior to this, right, didn't
know she was.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
And she's twenty seven, just bought a thirteen million dollar house,
so she's done.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Okay, so far, she's taking cool boy applications.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Call me Raul, yeah the line forms over.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
There or anything else that you want to, just call me.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
And she's actually producing now yeah, I got several properties
that she's purchased and going to produce movies.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
So cool, good for her.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
We need more of them there, you go, more of
them than aren't afraid?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Right, exactly right, just just here it is this is
what I do. Get over it.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
It's hard to argue with a great set of splits.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I knew we could count you to leave on a
high note. Here okay, had with that old monkey music. Here, okay, great,
get hurt? Yeah actually it did. Ready hurt. We're gonna
tell you guys have a great week as well.
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
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Speaker 3 (00:40):
Now, if here's Tom, Michelle and Jim for the gun
Talk after Show.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
We don't muck you around here. Hey, this is Tom Gresher,
but this is the after show that will make some
sense to you in just a few minutes now, folks, Hey, Jim,
Kenzie Michelle, hell my friend. Hello, Hey buddy for gun
story that everybody likes that.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Uh huh yeah, I've been doing that forever. I haven't
decided mine. It changes every year.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well yeah, look, I can debate this for hours with myself, right,
I don't need anybody else on this one. Now, you're stupid.
That's a bad Yes, I am.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I oh, well, you know there's also that one that's
right on.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
The other hand, and you know what, you know what
I overlooked? Yeah, everything exactly. Oh lordy, well, let's do
the whole four gun thing. Let's go grab gim on
line five out of Oregon City, Oregon. Hey Jim, what's
your choices?
Speaker 7 (01:33):
Yeah, good afternoon, Tom, Yes, sir. My four favorites are
my Savage one ten, cl In two seventy mm, Marlin
three thirty six in thirty thirty, and I have a
new CZ left handed drake in twenty gauge.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Okay, Trump, I'm catching up. Are your other rifles? Is
your savage and left handed? You bet it is? Okay?
All right, So you're a wrong wrong handed shooter like me.
I love that. Alright.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Well, I'm right handed, but I'm left right.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Say you here? Okay? And what is what's number four
on your list?
Speaker 7 (02:16):
Number four is the CZ seventy five b BB and nine.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Milimeter streat gun.
Speaker 7 (02:22):
Nice's it's heavy, but deadley.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I'm trying to find a problem with your list and
I can't.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well, for me would be the fact that they're left handed. Primarily, Well,
I'm loving this.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
This it works great for me.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
We don't discriminate against the handicap.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Oh now listen, No, that's a fine lineup of two
seventy thirty thirty a shot gun and a nine milimeters pistol.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
You know, some would say maybe we would want to
slide a twenty.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
Two in there, but you know, oh no, I've got it.
I've got a couple of those. But but they don't quite.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Make the four list. That's the problem, isn't it. It's like,
you know, if I could make it five or six,
I could really you know, I could add to this.
But there we are.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
You're nine pretty easy, Yeah, eight or nine? I like it,
just just a piece of information. My old one ten
cl I bought it in nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Wow, you've had that.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
And it's uh, it's still in perfect condition. It it
shoots about until inch and a half of the hundred
yards on a real regular basis. My first, my.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
First center fire rifle. Well, the left handed Savage one't
ten and seven mag And you know, you can just
do anything you want to do with that. They just
work their ugliest I mean, it doesn't matter if you'd
like drop them down a mountain, because they start out ugly.
They're going to end up doesn't make a different. I wouldn't.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
I wouldn't say ugly.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I like mine.
Speaker 7 (04:12):
It's still all original except a stripped and finished the
stock here a while back, and it looks good again.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Okay, all right, I don't know. I just always thought
that that barrel nut arrangement they have for attaching the
barrels looks terrible, but it's incredibly smart. It's a brilliant
system for changing out barrels, and you know, it just works.
So I guess beauty is then the performance in this case.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
And I've got a Leopold two to seven on top
of it.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
That's a great choice.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
That is a really good choice. And people don't understand
how good those are. You know, good on the low power,
and seven is enough for you want to shoot out
to four hundred yards. Seven is fine for that.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Absolutely. I've got a two to seven Compact on the
Marlon three thirty six and it really looks nice and
it works great.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well, that's interesting, Yeah, why not. That's a good choice too.
I like your lineup. I like your choices. Well, thank
you all right, afternoon, are you t thanks for the call. Well,
let's say if Greg is still hanging in there with
let's say, Greg, you're still.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
There, Yep, I'm here.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Oh we couldn't shake him.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I hang up on in that.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
Yeah, go ahead, yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Now, I know what we're gonna do. We're gonna play
some of our intro music.
Speaker 8 (05:36):
Oh great, Yeah, I cringe every time I listened to
the beginning of your show for that very reason. I
know we're about the same age. I'm seventy three, and
you know, I don't know that music that you do have.
It sounds like a bunch of chimpanzees broke into a
(05:58):
music store and thought they could play the instruments. But
my idea on this is there's another talk show named
Joe Peggs. I don't know if you listened to him
or not. Yeah, okay, Well, Ted Nugent gave Joe one
of his songs to use for his intro music, and
that is love Grenade and and uh and thinking of
(06:24):
that though, you know Ted, real good tool Ted, and
ask him if you can use his song come and
Take It that he wrote during Biden I think when
Biden was trying to take away assault weapons again that
(06:45):
Ted did this song called Come and Take It and
it's it's really cool because he's actually singing in it somewhat,
you know, somewhat.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
It's about you, Greg.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
We're still waiting for your demo to make it here
to listen to yours, your submissions.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
But you know, come and take it. That's not a
bad idea. Yeah, we could do. We could go with that.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
You put a bunch of monkeys out of work though.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I mean, well there's that, you know, Uh, you got
to have a new band though it's called like, you know,
the Ransacking Monkeys or something.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I like that idea.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Wait a minute, here we go. How did Ted would
go for that? Yeah, that's not a bad thought. We'll
run that past him. Now. The thing is we should
explain that you may not know, Greg, is that that
(07:45):
music is actually Jim and his musician buddies. They put
that together. It is a custom original music done for us.
So you're talking to the man right now, so he
can just beat up on it that it's fine.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
We do well.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, some people says a musician, and others don't. So see.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
And I'm not even a drummer, Otherwise I would have applied.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
That's right. You say, what do they call a guy
that hangs around with musicians. They call him a drummer. Drummer, right,
that's right. I appreciate the call, sir. Good stuff. We've
had a lot of things going on and I got
to play. You know, I really had fun with this,
to deal with this twelve year old getting him fixed
up yet with the rifle.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
That's cool.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
We can talk a little bit about that when we've
come back on the backside here, and actually we could
talk about anything we want to, because you know what
nobody's the boss about there.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
You have it.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Put all your gear on the chiciry and then roll
around on the ground. Now, get up all your gear
that's on the ground. That's what you're not going to
have in a fight.
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Speaker 3 (08:52):
You know if it's like C four, it's almost like
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Speaker 5 (08:56):
Yeah, we talk about that too. On your crosshairs, I
like a thin crosshair.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
And you're really dating yourself by calling things cross hairs.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
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Speaker 4 (09:13):
All right, So we're just laughing you silly things that
we do. The guys over at FBN and then make
really nice guns or the standard jokes, just like yeah, yeah,
show me some of those fin guns you got.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Wow, that's a nice gun. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's like yeah, I know, we never heard that before, right, right, right,
it'll go on.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
There's no end.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
We are actually all just like kids. They're like infantile.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Oh sure, yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Speak for myself, okay, I meant where he stood.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Hmm. Oh lordy. Well okay, so my little thing for
the week was doing this surprise reveal to this kid,
and that was cool. It was fun. I was at
his dad. Let us be a part of that.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
We should get the money after show next week.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Well, what we're going to do is we're going to
get him to call in once he gets his deer.
We have a we have a plan.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
A plan you say, and certain evil laughter here.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You've got to walk yeah, and hands together.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I did. I did, Like our guys. I don't know
why this maybe who had combined the two different powders
and the canister, and you know, it's like we all
know where we're going to end up on this, right.
It's like, because you're not the first person.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
To do this, right, right, and even if you dumped
it was right on top and you could see it
and distinguished by color whatever.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Nope, Nope, that's just a huge still is one of
those inviolate rules. That's a big no. You're not doing this, yep. Yeah,
Or if you are, you're going to stand at the
other end of the line when you're shooting, because I
don't want to be more close to you, thank you
very much.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yep. But you can buy fertilizer way cheaper than you
can buy where that is.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
That's the problem, right, But it really hurts. What the
cost of powder?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
What's the poblem go for nowadays?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It depends but forty sixty dollars.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I've seen it eighty Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, it's ending.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, it depends on what you're buying. Yeah, but I
tell people, I said, I hold your hand up in
front of your face, so yeah, okay, now pick one
of your fingers. Yeah, which one do you want to lose?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Oh god?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Oh okay, I think I'll pour this out in the
lawn now, yeah, that part.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, well, you know, it does bring up a good point.
And he said he brought them in one at a time. Unfortunately,
whatever happened happened. But this is just as important as
always talking about making sure the mega zene is out
of the gun unloaded, saying out loud, my gun is unloaded,
checking the slide a couple of times before you do
(12:07):
any kind of dry firing or holster work or anything else.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Right, I mean, he knew what the answer was. He
was just hoping that you would say it was okay. Yeah, yeah,
he knew, Yeah, he knew.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, we all knew. It's like, okay, we're just going
to go down this road, but eventually we're going to
throw all this powder away.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
And if you look a look at the naysayers viewpoint
lot devil's advocate position here, would anything happen?
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Well, what kind of gamble do you want to take?
Fifty bucks and you're and you were right? Okay, well
you say fifty bucks, fifty bucks and you're wrong. You
would pay way more than fifty bucks to get those fingers.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
But maybe you're only okay with the first shot.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah right, you know, now, if you're reloading to sell
the AMMO.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Sure these might work. This is do not guaranteed bats shut.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
How many pairs of safety glasses do you own?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Well, you might want might to put them.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
All on double up. And that does kind of bring
that up too. With being careful of who you buy
remanufactured and ammunition from.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I've kind of gotten where I just don't. Yeah, yeah,
it's you know, I mean, if it's somebody I know
who's really competent, I would shoot their AMMO. Remanufactured AMMO
probably not at all. And people go, yeah, well it's fine,
they've been making AMMO for a long time. Yeah, I know,
I got it. And the cost difference is like what
(13:31):
two cents around?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, what about the factory reloads because there's companies that
specialize in that.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yeah, what's the difference between a factory reload and a reman.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's basically the same thing, Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It is, And I don't know where the line is
between yes, because there are large companies that actually they
make AMMO. They're a factory. They're just using once fired brass.
That's really all it is. Okay, it's a factory and
you save a little money on.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
It forty cents a box. Is it worth it?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
That's the question is how much are you saving and
is it worth it? And look, I know a lot
of people who have shot tens of thousands of rounds
of that ammo and just not had a problem. And
there are some companies that make really good ammo with them,
so I'm not trying to bad mouth them. I'm just
the ones that bother me is the guys they've got
(14:26):
gun stores and they've got like a ziplock bag of.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Ammo rightshows, gun shows?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, how about No, I'm just walking right past that one.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Well, COVID kind of brought out all those people that
had a box of ammunition from nineteen twenty.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I've got a ziplock bag of ammo and now you go,
notice they're not all the same caliber.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Or manufacturer or anything else on the back. That's fine, Yeah,
that's fine.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
No, what you get is it's probably fine.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Sign here.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah right, But do you see it all the time,
ammunition in the in the little baggies with no information
on it.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
And you can get the one shot brass.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
I mean people sell one shot brass, Yes, but just
try to find one shot primers or one shot powder
nowhere nowhere to find them anywhere.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Well, all over the floor of the range.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Find it's actually in that guy's yard.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
We're gonna go back to the probably beginning yeah, mixed up.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
But you know what you do is you go down
the road in your neighborhood when you find a yard
where it's really green.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Shooter, got cool, you've.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Been practicing your love and gets an issue.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Eh.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I ever saw a thirty seven foot rose bush, but
that's a nice one.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
This is the new hodgeden miracle grow.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah. Oh we've done that, though, I'm sure you have to.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I have done that also. Powder that is old enough
where you are a little bit suspected to thinking it
might be okay, but the mic part bothers me and go, yeah,
I just go pour it out, well, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And I don't know if Jim does or not, but
I know you're aware of this when they had the
cardboard canisters and they were like the really big, what
five pound canisters with just the tin top and bottom,
and it just right.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
But people still have some of that stuff sitting around.
So if it's taken care.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Of and it doesn't work both ways, you can't use
fertilizer as gunpowder right as far as strangely enough, it
will ignite well for some fertilizer of course obviously has
been used and explosive right right right.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And you notice there's a similarity. If we say you
can use this fertilizer when it's gunpowder, you go, oh,
then fertilizer must have some stuff in it, especially the nitrogen,
nitro cellulos or whatever it is. So you could conceivably
in the what's the name of that book, the anarchist book? Yeah, yes,
(17:04):
remember that? Yeah you could.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah. They banned that, didn't they.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Oh? Probably, you know. It's like, yeah, that's that's why
we like it, right, It's like, is it banned? I
want one?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Talking about thirteen year old boys nightmare? I mean, it's
the worst thing you could give them.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh lord, they have a cheat sheet for burn rates
on fertilizer, going okay, don't you.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Just go to your thing. I don't want you where
close to that one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
So I was talking with my rip with Scott's.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Lawn, and now that they're wrapping three gun I thought maybe, yeah,
to sponsor.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Them up, calling Hornaby or a Hodgett or somebody being like,
I would like some information.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
You know, I'm not sure using our shooting team is
sponsored by Scott's right.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Oh my, but you're green. See that's good, that's true.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Look how green we are?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
That's how we get the libs into shooting. We tell
them famili you go, I like that sometimes greenly you know.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Actually, and you know, Taron Butler said, he says, look,
I don't care about politics. That don't ask people about
their politics. You can imagine how many of those movie
star sites teaching to shoot are pretty darn lefty. Oh yeah,
but they're buying guns. And once you get them to
do that, it maybe not completely, but it definitely changed
(18:32):
their position on things.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Unless they take the mindset of well, but I'm famous
and I'm rich, I'm a target. You know, the average
guy still doesn't need one right here.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, there's there's some of them. Tediatrician, but that was
a fun interview though, that was that was great. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I hope he instructs lots of women. And I say
that because they're the ones that would be okay with it,
or if they're okay with it, they would be more
likely to introduce it to their children rather than hold
them back from that potential education.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
He teaches a lot of actresses, Yeah, Diaz and Cameron Diaz,
Holly Berry, obviously Sweeney's there's a lot of them. If
you start looking for videos, uh, people shooting with Ary Butler.
You'll see a lot of.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Them there, well, Halle Berry and all you know.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Oh geez oh, jim, let me just tell you. And
everybody knows who's seen him and knows what I'm going
to say. If you start looking at the videos, you're
going to see some of the most attractive women shooting,
and they are shooting lights out. They're so good. But
they're also hot as a firecracker. So I don't know
(19:45):
what that deal is. I don't know what his secret is,
but there.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
There it is road Flood.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
That's okay. We don't question Tom Selleck either, So fine, that's.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Because he's a Tiger Fano ways, okay, sure the Tigers.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
That's yeah, yeah, huh. And my wife says, well, it's
okay if we watched quickly on under again.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Okay, I've never seen this one before, nice dimples.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Although I will say I saw I don't even know
what the name of it was. I came in in
the middle of it. But a different cowboy more I've
never even seen before with him.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
And I think Sam Elliott was it Mellett?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yes, yes, I've seen that. Not a good movie. I
mean it was kind of mediocre. Listened to her is
there a? Didn't really notice.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It didn't have any volume to it, but it was fine.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
How long did it run? Not long enough?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Well if okay that, if you haven't seen him, you
got to go find the Jesse Stone movie as he did. Okay,
they are really good.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
There's a series of them.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
It's it's like six or seven and they are very
slow paced. They're not frenetic, they're not They're just a
different pace and you settle in and it's really cool.
I'd like that whole series of movies. All right, there
we go. You can find those online, you know. I
don't know if it's Netflix or some ice Flue or something. Yeah,
(21:16):
I look for the Jesse Stone movies and you'll he
once you watch when you go, oh okay, I get it.
If the pace is very different and some interesting characters
and how he goes about things, and go, okay, this
is very much not like his other movies. But as
I say, he carries a cool I think it is
a maybe it's either a gun Sight or a thunder
(21:38):
Ranch nineteen eleven, because you actually see the logo on
it at some point. Oh no kidding or it's his
personal gun. Oh cool. Oh yeah, he uses personal nineteen
eleven in the movie. I thought he shot in that.
Oh no, no, not not Jesse Stone.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
I must be confusing it with the other.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Yeah. No, this he is a modern day police chief
and Paradise, Maine.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Oh, it's totally something different I'm thinking of.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Oh okay, yeah, no, there's there's a Obviously he's done
westerns and all, but this is not a Western. This
is a modern era.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
I'll have to check that out. Yeah, I think I'm
enjoy him.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'm a fan of that Detroit boy.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Oh I didn't realize he's from Detroit.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
I believe so he's Tiger's fan too.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
He's a Tiger's fan. Is he from Detroit?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
I think he's from Detroit. I don't know, but I'll
know before the end of the segment. Huh.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
You speaking of the resale value on p. Three twenty
nice segue, wasn't it. That's smooth?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Not smooth, but yeah, you're pointing not smooth.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
But okay, since we hit a speed bomp here, thank
you very much. Quiet there.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
They look like they're holding pretty decent. You think everybody
would panic and dump them for nothing. Well, how do
you know, Well, go checking price a gun broke. I
don't necessarily you're looking at you're looking at asking price, trip.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Are you looking at selling price? I have not.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
I haven't getting that deep because I was actually working
for a little bit.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
They actually have a thing you can click on and
see what they sold for. Huh yeah around Yeah. And
what I found is interesting is that how many guns
I'm watching now on my watch list who time out
with zero bids on them because somebody put a initial
price on it that was so high and nobody was
going to pay it.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Well, you're talking about all guns, not just the three twenties.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yes, all guns, Yeah, not just three.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Have you seen something different on the three twenties as
far as.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
No, I've really not im. I think it's got to
affect the price.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Yeah, that's kind of why I looked it up to them,
and they said, man, you think people are are dumping this,
you know.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
But maybe not. Like I said, you got a lot
of people that are saying, yeah, that's not true, you know,
And I'm not buying into it. So I wish I
knew where to fall on this, but I completely.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Don't got you it'll come to fruition here.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, we'll all figure it out at some point. We'll know,
but it is certainly a I think it's a major
threat to seeing the company, absolutely if it were to
turn out that that's a real thing and they're gonna
have to do something with either recalls or whatever. And
I don't have any idea what happens.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
With the military that's going to say. Those are huge
contracts with the military, and not just their handguns. I'm
sure there's other things out there.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, yeah, because they have military contracts for I think
one of the new machine guns, and of course the
the the Fury. It's the two seven seven Fury, the
new cartridge that has eighty thousand PSI yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
so yeah, who knows. I don't know. And then I
(24:35):
just saw something went by in a flash this morning
and this may not even be true. I got to
go look this up. That Glock is making some kind
of they're focusing more on military law enforcement and cutting
back on the guns that are going to be offering
the public or selling to the public.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Oh no, cult tried that, don't do it.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, I know it is alluring. You say, we can
get a multi gazillion dollar do contract. And the problem
is you get right into the middle of it and
you're geared up for it, and then they cancel the contract. Right,
that's what happened to Colt.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Oh my gosh, so many times. I mean Colt wanted
a bankruptcy. I don't even know how many times.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Yeah, And the contracts are definitely written to the government's
advantage obviously.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Well, they can't just walk away. Yeah, they could do
anything they want. First of all, they say, okay, and
we could become we're in first in line on everything.
Everything you do has to fall behind us anything we want,
and yes, we can cancel at anytime. It's crazy. So
but it's like a guy I knew way way back
when Walmart first got started. He made spinner baits. And
(25:40):
he said, yeah, I'm selling to those guys up in
Arkansas selling them spinner baits. I said, well, don't they
beat you down on costs. You probably don't make much
on each one, he says, No, I don't make much
on each one. He says, but they're buying like five
hundred thousand at a time. Wow, Okay, got it, understand, Yeah,
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Well, just build up your manufacturing or have separate manufacturing
for military and police, because I'm sure that's kind of
what SIG is doing or has done.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, they'd have to be maybe
separate facilities. But even if you did that, if you
based spending, let's go out and spend fifty million dollars
on the plant. Yeah, and that's still at risk if
the contract goes. I mean, we're speculating at this point,
and I need to chase let me just say, I
need to chase down the Block story because they went
(26:30):
by this morning when I was prepping for the show.
In it it's one of those that sounds like it's real,
but you're not sure yet. So I need to get
a little more information on that.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, because there's enough Block people out there who man
or something. Yeah, something like that happened, and they they're
no longer selling.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
They're smart to license their stuff to somebody else to
make under their name or something.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
You know, the more I think about it, more I
think that can't be true. That can't be a real story.
So I just can't even imagine that they'd say we're
not going to sell to the survey market. That doesn't
make any sense at all.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I would hope not.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah, I wouldn't think. So they make good guns, that.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Would be a whole revel First of all, they revolutionized
the plastic world. I mean they were the first ones
to bring it out, and everybody's like, oh my goodness, Tupperware, Adult, Tupperware, Combat.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Tuperware, the plastic fantastic. Yes.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Oh, you couldn't even get the lid back on the
case when you opened it up with the guns came.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Spend a lot of time messing with it.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
But yeah, I mean they've kind of they've taken commercial
by storm, and that would be terrible.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah. I think it'd be interesting to know what the
percentage is that they have up the pistol market.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I bet it's a lot, though, I gotta believe so.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
God, even if you only have five percent of the
pistol market, if you're doing great, oh, I bet they
have quarter if you had just five.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
If you have five percent, but I bet they have
a quarter of it more. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Well, and it's still the same molds that that are
the go tos.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's the nineteens, it's the forty three, it's the forty two,
it's those really heavy hitting air quote common unquote guns
that people are still going after because they fill such
a great niche spot out there and it doesn't matter
what you do with them.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
It was interesting. We had two calls today on the
RUGA r x M yes, and they were like raving.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
On these loving them.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
So.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
You know a cool thing about Glock is they recently
updated their their production music.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
It's called Classical Gaston. You may have heard of it.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Oh my no, just just just no, just yeah, Mason Williams,
I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there are like three
of us that got that. No.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
And born in January twenty ninth, nineteen forty five in Detroit, Michigan,
Tom Selleck.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
So now your life's complete knowing this a little bit
of tribute there.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, thank you?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Which makes him?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
How old? Older than me? Still?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
What year was he? One forty five?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
So he's coming out five one eighty one right now?
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Wow? Okay, I'm sorry, let up. Well you know he's
held well my still work.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I'm sorry. I'm just embarrassed for you.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Cut out this excerpt and send it to the chance phone.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I'm speaking so funny, do you know what?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
As if he doesn't, I'm just talking on behalf of
all the other women out there.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Were the phones tonight we have Smitt and Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Well that's okay, you know, but dimples.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
In the in the little eyebrow raising. Oh yeah, I'll
get you every time.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Okay, So did you guys see the follow up? As
long as we're going there, Uh, you got the Sidney
Sweeney thing right. And you know she is, you know,
really attractive. She did the Blue Gene commercial for Girl.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I feel like she's very well in doubt. Okay. So
Taren puts out a follow up video of her shooting
and of course in competition, these guys are shooting so
fast and they're always measuring their time between shots. You
see where I'm going with this, And the title of
(30:34):
it is Sidney Sweeney has great splits. Oh my sho.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
As long as she's cool with it.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Oh yes, she used to having a ball with the
whole thing. It's like, oh, this is all silly at
this point. Oh my god, it was just so silly.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yes, I think it's awesome that they put her up
in Times Square.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Oh yeah, I think American eagles, great American Eagle. They
did not run away from this at all. Yep. It
was like, I think somebody said their stock went up
twenty or twenty five percent or something. It was crazy.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Ow.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
They looked at bud Light and they looked at Dick's
Sporting Goods and said, you know what, We're going to
stick to our guns here.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Punning under right, And the atmosphere has changed under Trump.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Oh yeah, because now you can actually say what you're thinking.
Without is dead.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Woke is dead. So yeah, now, it's been fun to
watch this whole storyline, you know, and the fact that
when you look into it, you go, oh yeah, she
works on her own car, she does transmissions and engines.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
And never heard her name prior to this, right, didn't
know she was.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
And she's twenty seven, just bought a thirteen million dollar house,
so she's done.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Okay, so far, she's taking cool boy applications.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Call me Raul, yeah the line forms over.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
There or anything else that you want to, just call me.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
And she's actually producing now yeah, I got several properties
that she's purchased and going to produce movies.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
So cool, good for her.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
We need more of them there, you go, more of
them than aren't afraid?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Right, exactly right, just just here it is this is
what I do. Get over it.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
It's hard to argue with a great set of splits.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I knew we could count you to leave on a
high note. Here okay, had with that old monkey music. Here, okay, great,
get hurt? Yeah actually it did. Ready hurt. We're gonna
tell you guys have a great week as well.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
We'll catch you next time for the gun talk after show.
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