October 12, 2025 • 33 mins
In This Issue:
-- Trying out the Forced Reset Trigger.
-- He didn't read the instructions and it almost killed him.
-- The Library of Congress is storing the recorded stories of military veterans.
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-- Trying out the Forced Reset Trigger.
-- He didn't read the instructions and it almost killed him.
-- The Library of Congress is storing the recorded stories of military veterans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Michelle and Jim for the gun Talk after Show.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's after showtime. We got Jim, we've got Michelle, and
they've got me. So there you go, the Pretty Musketeers.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Hey guys, Hello, we couldn't shake you.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Huh Yeah, Now he tried to.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Disconnect, but more likely he'd try to shake us.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That's right. I'm gonna I'm gonna go out and play
in the lovely thirty four degree rainy temperatures on you
gotta love it. Pretty fun. My friend said, be sure
you bring your ring gear and have it on the
top so you can put it on in case we
have to ride and the horses out in the rain. Yeah,
that's always fun. Maybe I love that it's an adventure.
(01:12):
That's what we do.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I wonder if it's raining in Minnesota. Segue it's a
segue time Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, like in Crookston, Minnesota, where Marty is Yep, Hey, Marty, Hello,
So welcome to the After Show. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (01:29):
I have a question, Well, I think it's an ATF
form forty four seventy three. Then when you purchase the firearm,
there's a question in that form that says, have you
ever been convicted of a felony? Now, of course if
you have, that creates a problem, but if your Second
Amendment rights have been restored, that should take care of
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the issue. My question is if you answer yes in
the form being truthful, the answer legs immediate denial on
participant fire or arm. Probably answer no, which I have
personally heard attorneys say, yeah, I just say no, Well,
(02:16):
you're a falsifying a federal document.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, they're not going to jail. I don't know. I mean.
And for those who just keep trying to catch up.
For about twenty years, you could not get your gun
rights restored. Congress blocked that and ATF would not do that.
Trump ordered it to be done. Pam Bondi, speaking of
(02:41):
Pam Bondi, went in and said, okay, here's the rule.
We're going to put this rule in. I don't know
if it's gone through yet, but there is a provision
where you can get your rights restored. But to your question,
exactly is you're filling out your forty four seventy three
you're buying a gun, I don't know how you're supposed
to answer it, or I don't know how you actually
(03:01):
apply the fact that you've had your right restore to Michelle,
do you have any thoughts?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So the only thing I can think of is perhaps
calling your local ATF and they have something called a PIN.
It's a personal identification number and lots of people use
that for confusion of let's just use the name John
Smith with with not giving social Security because you don't
(03:26):
have to. It's an optional thing, but it creates Obviously,
there's lots of other John Smith's in the world, and
so if there's anybody that fits a profile, yes, a profile,
they will say, hold on.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Let's take a better look at this.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
But a PIN separates you from everybody else and they
know exactly who you are with information. So I'm wondering
if that would help this situation.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I don't know, so possibly for your record when they
punch in your pin, it might pop up and say
this person has had his rights restored.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Exactly. That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I'm hoping it would work that way for him and
he can't be alone.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Yeah, I'm also I believe, if my understanding is correct,
you can't even apply for a pin until one of
two things has happened. You've been denied or you've been
un reasonably delayed many times, and then you can apply
for the pin. Otherwise, their instructions say that's the only
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time and condition.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
You know, I think Michelle. I like Michelle's idea though,
of just calling the ATF officers say look, I've had
my rights restored. How do I go about buying a gun?
What's the process? And just say you talk me through it?
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Okay? Yeah. That my ficture is if I can get
through to somebody, Yeah, that might work well.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Of course, right now you can't get through to anybody
because hey, we've got to go shut down going on exactly.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Yeah, Okay, that's I'll consider that as a roll of
good solution because I know that I don't know how
to answer that question truthfully either way. I think that anybody,
any excel who has a second limit rights is concerned
about the same thing because there is no second step
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asking about oh well, okay, you're convicted of selling.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Right, there's no follow what are.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
The exceptions that you have allow you to do that?
And they don't ask that.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah right. The thing is, I mean, lord knows it
could be a marijuana conviction from forty years ago. You know,
you don't know what it is. But yeah, look, do
that if you would, and if you get the information,
call us back and let us know what you find out.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Okay, I will lose that.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Thank you, Tom, Thank you Marty. I appreciate that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
And the lawyers you talk to aren't the ones that
told them, yeah, you've got your rights your store.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, sure you're good.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, it's like, oh yeah, he's a lawyer. Yeah. But
you know, it's that old deal. I guess the person
who graduates last in class they still call them lawyer stuff.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I thought that only applied the doctors.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
That too, you know. And what's really bad, And I've
known some where you got somebody who actually is a
doctor with a lawyer degree. A law degree. Holy cow,
talk about insufferable. Oh I say that out loud. You
know who you are. I thought, Wayne, he's done Petaluma, California.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
Wayne, all right, Tom Hey, last week you were talking
about recording memories of relatives and things like that. But
the Library of Congress has a Veterans History Project where
they take the veterans can I guess thing of video
and oral memories of the time in service and is
(06:45):
stored at the Library of Congress so that we can
lose all these storys in the Second World War, Korea, Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
That's cool.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Yeah. I first heard about this at the San Luis
and Dispot at the type of Veterans musim there and
one of the dozens was telling me about that, and
they've recorded like several hundred memories from the veterans around
that area.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Now do you know, is this something that you can
do individually and then get it to the Library of
Congress or does it have to come through some particular
pathway or they were doing.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
I think through the American Legion or VFW in their area.
You can look it up on the internet is for
the Library of Congress Veterans History Project and give you
some contact information.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I love it. It's a brilliant idea. I mean, if you
think about all of the World War Two veterans who
were losing so many iteands like the Hardly and he
left at.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
This point, I wish there was enough time involved.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You know, they do those honor flights and take all
the veterans down to see the monuments, and gosh, if
they could spend the time with some of those vets
and get those stories.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Then oh gosh, what an incredible experience.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah right, incredible stuff. Well Wayne, thank you. I did
not know about that, but that is very worthwhile and
as much as we can, we need to capture all
of these memories. Great great information. Thanks sir uh Ty.
Before we get to Brett, I gotta tell my quick
old story. We're talking about the veterans and the stories.
You know. Of course, I'm very active in the aviation world,
and a couple of my friends were doing flights in
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an old World War Two cargo plane at one of
these air shows and people would come up and they
could they could buy a flight, and they said they had.
This group of old guys came up, I may have
told the story before, and they said, yeah, we want
to we want to see the plane. So really said,
what's your story. And they were all part of the
(08:37):
band of brothers. Wow, I know, and my buddy Wayne
or Walter says, yeah, you guys can't come in the plane.
You can't just get in. Said, but we'll take you
for a ride. Oh cool. So they had a h
which is the Dakota gooney Bird, you know, and they
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take off and before they do, they're all like looking like, okay,
this is where you sat, this is where I sat,
and they all had to deal right, And then they
fly them all around and they take them on a
nice I mean, they're longer than the standard. They take
them on like a twenty minute flight and they come
back when they land, Walter said, from the back of
the plane, they could hear them all going yeah. So
(09:21):
he landed, you know, he shuts down, goes back and said,
what was that big cheer for. They said, this is
the first time we ever landed. They had always jumped out.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
And it's a perfectly good airplane. Oh my gosh, that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's cool story. All right, let's take our break. We'll
get the bread when we come back.
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Speaker 3 (10:26):
All right back with you here? Do we do love
those story? I mean, and honestly, you know we show.
That's why we capture these stories, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It is why, and it's so important on so many levels.
Military is one thing, you know, the family history is another.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Things just don't get passed.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Sounds like I think this was my grandpa's pop's gun,
you know.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I all that type of stuff and get.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
To know specifically or to the best of somebody's recollection now,
because I mean a lot of people are getting a
lot older that you know, may not remember the story exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
But about how easy it is now You used to
have to write all that down. Now you just say
here grandpa and will turn on my phone. We're going
to record a video.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Tell me about this gun. Tell me about what you
did in the board, Tell me about Grandma, tell me
about how you guys met. I mean, just on and
on and on, and you loaded to the cloud and
it's there for the rest of the family.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Forever, exactly. And it's so easy to share. Everybody can
have the same story. It's just so simple.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
And you can annoy all of your relatives by show.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
You that's right.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
But you know, different people talking to the same person too,
you know, because sometimes there's more embellishment, and you know
people are willing to go more in depth with the story.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So absolutely don't.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I always say, listen to the older people, take their information,
learn from it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's it is yep, it's a part of history down
we'll never get it back.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
All right, let's grab Brett if you're still there, Hey, Brett,
you're still hanging around.
Speaker 9 (12:00):
I'm still there, Okay, Thank.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You, sir. I appreciate your patience. We're just we're kind
of wandering around like we do here, so you never
know where we're going to go. So thank you, sir.
I appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
No problem. You were talking about safety on the show
earlier today and I just wanted to tell you about
an app. It's called what three Words, And if you
open up the app, it gives you a specific three
word sequence that's unique to every spot on the earth
within about ten feet. So if you're out someplace and
you're lost, you can send somebody the three specific words
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and they can find you.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Well, okay, I need more information. That's not clicking with
me right now, and I may be just a little slow,
do you. I don't understand what you're talking about. Exactly.
What three words that tell you where you are on
the planet.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
That's exactly right. There's three unique words that this app
will show you that's unique to wherever you're at. So
if you open it up and you're in Quarterly or
someplace like that, If you open it up and you're
in your front yard, it'll give you three unique words.
If you go across the street, it'll give you three
different unique words. And the fire department Paul Rodd Springs
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used it to find lost hikers and things like that.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So I guess through the service they then they put
those words back in and it has probably GPS coordinates
to go with that.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
Exactly. Yeah, So I can share the coordinates where I'm
at just by I can hit the share button. I
can share those three words with you and you can
look at those three words and you can pull it
up and you're you'll know exactly where I'm at coordinates.
I don't have to know any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
As long as somebody realizes that you have this app
and that's what you're sending them, they don't think it's
just like a bunch of gobbletbook information, right.
Speaker 9 (13:47):
Yeah, Yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, because I mean it's like, why does he keep
sending me bring more beer?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
It's a smart way.
Speaker 9 (14:04):
Try try it. Let me know what you think.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I will look that up. That is sounds interesting and
look anything that makes it easier for people to do this,
to call for help and have Because you're right. The
location thing, it's you know where are people. If people
know where you are, they can come get you and
that saves time and the time can save lives.
Speaker 9 (14:27):
Yeah, exactly. So if I'm if I'm out hiking, how
do I find my GPS coordinates of where I'm at
I'm on this trail? Yeah that's good, but we're exactly
am I am I at? So if I send the
fire department those three words and I know Colorado Springs uses.
I don't know how widespread it is, but it's certainly
something that people could use.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It's another possibility I know that, like the garment in
reach or a PLB, when you hit the button, it
sends the GPS coordinates because it has GPS built in,
so where it sends, they help signal out. They get
the GPS coordinates immediately, so I know exactly where you are.
So if you have one of those devices that takes
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care of that. But if you don't, if you're do
it through your phone, then this is a great idea
because your phone, by the way, people has GPS built in,
so it always has your coordinates.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Well, you know, that's assuming you have self service.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I was just going to say, you have to have service,
but will it work?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I was going to ask the question, you know how
that a whole sos you can still call for emergency help.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Would it work with that WhatsApp or what or what
three words app?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
I don't know in conjunction, Well, I got you if
it's an iPhone to say where am I, SyRI and
it gives you your coordinates. If somebody needed your exact
cordin I send.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
A pen if you have cell phone service, you can
rely on that too, because we do use our iPhones
out in the boonies now using the satellite function on
your iPhone sending and receiving texts.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yes, because you can. It is an option.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I know when we did some travel it asked if
I wanted to send message satellite r No.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
It works. It's slow, and you got to point your
phone at the satellite and it tells you where to
point your phone and all that, and it's a little
bit combersome. But look, if you're way out in the
boonies and don't have cell phone service, it's just nice
to have another option.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's right, you need help, you need help, you know, Yeah,
that's it's a cool way of using our technology.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Really to check out.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Thank you. I did not know about that, and I
really appreciate that. Thanks for calling that answer cool. We
did have somebody earlier he said, you know, he cares
the satellite phone with him, and you're going, well, if
you know, I've looked into that. They're not cheap, but
they're not really prohibitively expensive, and you can you can
rent one for like a month, and you know.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Doing that, aren't their conditions that they don't work in
as well.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Well, I don't think so. I mean, if you have
a view of the sky, yeah, that phone will work.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Okay, so you'd have to get out of the woods
at least to a clearing or something.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Right, Oh, I think, well, it depends, but probably works
through trees. Fine, you know, unlike starlink, which doesn't work
through trees. And we know that when I know that
because I bought it and put it in and it
didn't work because I got trees everywhere. Yeah, and it's like, okay,
that was great. Unfortunately I had a deal where you
could send it back within thirty days and get your
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money back. Yeah. And I would love to have starlink
because it's stupid fast and really works on a lot
of people now have the portable one. They're putting in
their vehicles wherever they go and set them out and
when it works, it screams yes exactly right, So there
you go. All right, So, speaking of screaming, I will
transition over to Jim and really really fast shooting guns.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, my buddy uses my range to test his modifications
and stuff on his gun.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
He's an FFL guy.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
And you say, hey, I'm kind of and blah blah
blah blah blah and shoots some stuff. It's okay, great,
I'm leaving. Maybe i'll cross pass of the et cetera.
So Todd comes over and I hear some shooting a couple,
you know, single shot. Crack crack crack. Okay, great, So
I'm getting ready to head out to where I'm going.
And as I'm leaving the house, I hear you gotta
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be kidney. He brought filato with him. Cool because he
brings them, you know, off and he'll bring that. But
it was like it was too short of a time
between the little twenty two cracks and this this barrage
of ammo. That was awful fast transition he does. He
doesn't handle guns like that. So I walked back there
and he's said, hey, I brought some stuff out, some toys,
and it's like, okay, what you got? And he had
a Taurus. This is all legal, by the way, folks,
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because he's a straight up character. This is a Taurus
t X twenty two. And it's I'm guessing the twenty
two pistol semi auto holds maybe fifteen rounds and guessing,
and there's a device you buy, which is called a
forced trigger reset or force trigger reset.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Force reset trigger for in.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
It's call that too by people who know what they're
talking about, and I.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Don't to be one of those.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yes, specific exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
So he's showing it to me, I'm like, are you
sure this is legit?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
He says yeah, because you're still squeezing the trigger once
for every shot, and it's it basically emulates a bump
stock where your finger is in one position and this
is your you're just giving it like isometric. You're just
giving a little bit of pressure on the trigger as
soon as as soon as the round is discharged and
the slide comes back, the force reset pushes it back
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to a detent as opposed to a full reset to
the beginning. So it's like, you know, stay on a
trigger reset on se my autos many have those. And
this thing was just unbelievable. And he's like, I got
to get the drums now because you can go crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
It's like, okay, it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
So I sent you an email when you get a
chance to check it out. To me, the video he
sent is just really cool. It's just a barrage of
gun fight.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
This must be something extremely popular right now, because we
were just being asked about one of these the other day.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Somebody was like, you know, is it really worth it?
Is it all about it? Like what is the wear
and tear on the firearm with it?
Speaker 8 (20:09):
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I mean, lots of concerns on the flip side of it,
But all of a sudden, this is just really gained.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It's really cool.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
And I tell you the little bit of differences that
I've learned so far is on a semiutopistol like glock has,
there's a forced reset mod you can do on the block.
Several manufacturers have them. They're all a little bit different.
It's not going to be the same part obviously, but
it makes your gun full time. I say full of,
it's not full It makes a full time faster semi
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auto fast. Yeah, but you can't put it into any
kind of SLUGT fire position to your safety would still work,
but you don't.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
You don't have SLUGT fire.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
It's either full o or filatto, pseudo full auto or
not right right. But on the AR there's something called
a super safety and I sent your link to that too,
and it replaces your your safety switch and it gives
you safety standard select fire, you know, a single one
at a time. I used select fire, which is actually
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bursts and stuff, but it's just a safe condition, a
single shot, single squeeze condition, or in the super safety mode,
it's just a cam and when and when it slides
back instaid.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Doing the standard procedure, you have to replace a trigger
to so it's.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
About one hundred dollars not about one hundred and twenty
dollars proposition, but you can't. Your AR would remain just
like it is now as well as in the other
mode in the middle position you now have simulated fil audo.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
It is so cool.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
So if if there's ever a problem that goes wrong though,
like if you're a reloader and have like squibbloads or
anything like that, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
You'd still lock up like you would. Yeah, I guess
the squibot followed by another.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Well that's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
It's funny.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
This this gun is like funny. This gun is the
really popular one that has caught everybody's the tension because
for two hundred and seventy nine bucks you buy the
pistol you can move so under four hundred bucks you've
got very fast semi auto.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Well, probably I'm thinking about Michelle. If these are becoming
more popular. There was the ATF decision on the foresware
set triggers that made them legal and because they had
said they were illegal, correct, And I think now that
has been reversed. So that's probably what happened, is that
people are now jumping on right.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, I mean we really have to do a little
bit of research and digging to see if there's you know,
any kind of I don't want to say maintenance issues,
but you know what I mean, like any we sare issues.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, if you increase the number rounds of going through
your gun by one hundredfold, you're going to wear it
out fast.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Really, you get down in a pro position and you
have the right wind and everything else that you're happy with.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
If you're done with so.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Much, I would just use say, hey, I don't want
to be able to make my house payment this month.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I think I'll go out back and shoot. Oh so,
all right, so you mentioned the glock. Did you guys
see the story this week that in California, Gavin Newsom
signed the bill that basically bands glock pistols because he
basically banned the you know, the glocks to take the switch,
the glock switch that makes them full out of which
(23:19):
of course that's illegal. The clock switch is illegal, and
putting it on the guns illegal. But he signed the
law that basically bans guns that can take a glock switch,
which means all glock clocks. I mean, it's going to
get challenged in court, and you know it'll be overturned.
But it just goes to the point that they are
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willing to and will and have banned as many guns
as possible, including the most popular handgun, which I think
the glock has to be the most popular handbub.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
In the country.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
There's unbelievable they're so popular. Kamala Harris has one. I
remember what she said. Remember she said she had a glock.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I do you remember she.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Lied about everything else? She's probably lied about that.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
She didn't remember she said it, but she said it well.
And working together too long.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You know on the radio, when you were talking about
the person that tried to intercept uh gentleman bringing in a.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Grabbed somebody brought him into the store at gunpoint.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, and this woman pulled out a firearm and shot
a couple of shots. Yeah, I said, you know, that's
Biden's school of carringting.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Get a double barrel shot gun, fire two rounds in there. Okay,
now we have an empty gun and we've told the
bad guys where we are.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But like you said, with another color, it is unfortunately,
what you know is what you see in the movies,
and this is what you see all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, wing shots even sometimes if you're watching any you know,
police shows, and the amount of warnings that they provide
to stop or to drop or whatever it is before
the fire is like, you know, take action to stop,
stop giving them the warning, but you know they're so
(25:32):
afraid of the opposite side now that probably put their
lives in danger and in jeopardy.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Sometimes.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
The other part of it is I ask people, and
I've been putting in this situation too in training, where
they say, okay, you know where I sold me, drop
the gun. Drop the gun. I say, okay, now, what
are you gonna do? What do you mean, well, what
are you gonna do? He dropped the gun, right, are
you going to arrest him? Well? No, well you tell
(25:59):
him on the ground. What if he doesn't it on
the ground, You're gonna shoot him, Uh, well, just walk
over there. What if you won't do that? What if
you won't do anything else that you told him to do?
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Going? Huh? I never thought about all that stuff. You
don't want to.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Say, Could you just pick up their gun again? Just
for a second, just just.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Brief Probably not good because somebody's got video of it,
trust right?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Good?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
No, I just think people will think about okay, and
then what that's the old Clint Smith deal? Say okay, great,
and then what I'm gonna do this right? Okay? And
then what or and if that doesn't work, what's your
plan when that doesn't work? And then when the next
thing doesn't work, and then when the next thing doesn't work,
what's your plan? You know? What I'm thinking is I'm
(26:48):
not there to apprehend anybody, and I'm most certainly not
there to try to hold them for the police. I
am perfectly happy if they've run away, if they won't
run away, run.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Away, I'm certain like we never want to.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Police don't actually want to engage and have to fire
up on anybody. I'm sure that they don't, you know,
And so they do provide that opportunity to allow you
to make a better decision.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Well, and also, but they have the duty to apprehend.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yes, yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
See they've got to now go up to them and
put them in handcuffs. We don't have to do that stuff, right,
We're not there to try to hold them for anyone.
And people make that mistake. Well, and save me from
people who say I'll make a citizen's arrest. That may
be the stupidest thing that can come out of your mouth.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Oh I could not trust me.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't agree.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Give me a second again.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
You know what I believe in you.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
You can impactor, you can do it.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Oh goodness, Yeah, there's all that stupid stuff citizens arrest
or your car is an extension of your home? No,
it's not. Whoever told you that's an idiot? Well, here's
a lawyer. I rest my case.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, unless it's a motor home.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I was going to say, Harvey's are yep.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Nope, Oh no, what do you mean? Nope, you're in.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I don't know who told you that. It's not true.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Okay, I told you I could screw up.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Go find find a statute that says your vehicle is
an extension of your home doesn't exist. Okay, Now, is
there a place where you can be legally. Yeah, sure,
you got to stand your ground laws, but you can
be legally anywhere. But in terms of you know, your
home being an extension your car being extension of your home,
I don't think so people, you know, but it's been
(28:48):
said so many times. People just so, yeah, that's true,
heard in all my life.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, And what I was thinking was that you do
have standard ground when you are in a camper trailer
the type of thing.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, yes, yes, but it's not part of your home.
It's just another place where you have where you can
be legally and don't have to leave. But in standard
ground states that can be a sidewalk to anywhere you are.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
You don't have to mis use phrase.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
I'm thinking if I'm in my IRV and somebody kicks
the door and night night.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
But it's certainly true, but that has nothing to do
with it being part of your home. It's just one
of those phrases that people use that came out of
somewhere and they repeat it. They don't even think about
it and going, well what does that actually mean? You know?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
So corrected, thank you, just right.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I mean, look, somebody may correct me and say, oh no,
there's a statue. I haven't seen it. It may exist.
I haven't seen everything, but I think that's another one
of these myths.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well, somebody should let us know if it's wrong.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Unless they'll trust me.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
They will.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
What they stand to correct you.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
They get in line to correct me, go o on.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Eggs, battle off left and right. You do Okay, Yeah,
but that's just courage.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Well keyboard here, I like it. I like it. Well
if I if the weather clears, I will go l cunning.
If it doesn't, it won't, but at any rate, we
will have a different kind of a show, very different
kind of a show here next week for people. We're
not gonna tell them about it, but it will be
kind of cool. And then the following week I'll be
(30:30):
back with arrange report on l hunting. As I prepare
for the next time, which is a muldeer hunt. Spoiled
cheez we may have to put in order for a
new freezer.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
A new freezer. You're just working your way down the
food chain. You're going from the largest.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I know, from the biggest to the smallest. Never going
rabbit hunting. They were going to get one of those
little under the counter apartment college dorm refrigerator freezers, a
little hole about six beers and a chipmunk.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
And chipunk the animal.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
You know, you gotta have like a dozen chipmunks to
have a meal. It's can tell you those a little
bitty guys.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, that's not even going to fill a skewer, one
little morsel coming off of them.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
It's like we used to go grab frogs at night.
You need a big stack of frogs to get a meal.
Let me just tell you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, I can imagine those places that do unlimited frog legs.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Oh yeah, boy, there's got to be commercially raised.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Out gigging all night long.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah. And for us in Louisiana, the law was you
couldn't break the skin, so you couldn't gig them. Really,
we would grab them with our hands, and sometimes that
thing with the shiny eyes wasn't a frog at all.
The cotton mouth Ah oh yeah, it's like, oh, that's
(31:59):
when the guy in the run of the boat is
all of a sudden sitting on top of you in
the back of the boat.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
No wonder you moved to Idaho.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
That's right. I'd rather do deal with the bears than those.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Like countries you want to go to it's like, yeah,
I don't want you anymore. Everything there wants to kill you, Like,
I'm all right?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Do they have bugs as big as a cat? No?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, no, I don't need to be carried away by
that exactly.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Maggie is speaking of carried away. I think we pretty
much have got that way.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
What we got there? That's it's Jim's almost nice way
of saying, any guys need to shut the hell up.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That's right, he's saying night night time.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
See there it is subtle, huh, not all that much,
but effective nonetheless. So there you go. Do you guys
have a great week? Yeah, and I will try. We'll
try to stay somewhat dry and have a good time
out there.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Hopefully it clears up so you can go so we
can hear all about it and live through you.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Absolutely, we're a little have fun and you know there'll
be moose and AlCH elk meat for everyone.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Nice you say that line. Yeah, I'm setting the.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
List links to the dry ice sights around him.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Well, what did I just have a deal where you
could just click on it and it'll just appear out
of your computer.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
When your computer's back work an you mean.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah, me and my computers. We have a love hate
relationship and there's no love left.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Stay safe, my friend, all right, Take care, guys.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's after showtime. We got Jim, we've got Michelle, and
they've got me. So there you go, the Pretty Musketeers.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Hey guys, Hello, we couldn't shake you.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Huh Yeah, Now he tried to.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Disconnect, but more likely he'd try to shake us.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That's right. I'm gonna I'm gonna go out and play
in the lovely thirty four degree rainy temperatures on you
gotta love it. Pretty fun. My friend said, be sure
you bring your ring gear and have it on the
top so you can put it on in case we
have to ride and the horses out in the rain. Yeah,
that's always fun. Maybe I love that it's an adventure.
(01:12):
That's what we do.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I wonder if it's raining in Minnesota. Segue it's a
segue time Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, like in Crookston, Minnesota, where Marty is Yep, Hey, Marty, Hello,
So welcome to the After Show. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (01:29):
I have a question, Well, I think it's an ATF
form forty four seventy three. Then when you purchase the firearm,
there's a question in that form that says, have you
ever been convicted of a felony? Now, of course if
you have, that creates a problem, but if your Second
Amendment rights have been restored, that should take care of
(01:52):
the issue. My question is if you answer yes in
the form being truthful, the answer legs immediate denial on
participant fire or arm. Probably answer no, which I have
personally heard attorneys say, yeah, I just say no, Well,
(02:16):
you're a falsifying a federal document.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, they're not going to jail. I don't know. I mean.
And for those who just keep trying to catch up.
For about twenty years, you could not get your gun
rights restored. Congress blocked that and ATF would not do that.
Trump ordered it to be done. Pam Bondi, speaking of
(02:41):
Pam Bondi, went in and said, okay, here's the rule.
We're going to put this rule in. I don't know
if it's gone through yet, but there is a provision
where you can get your rights restored. But to your question,
exactly is you're filling out your forty four seventy three
you're buying a gun, I don't know how you're supposed
to answer it, or I don't know how you actually
(03:01):
apply the fact that you've had your right restore to Michelle,
do you have any thoughts?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So the only thing I can think of is perhaps
calling your local ATF and they have something called a PIN.
It's a personal identification number and lots of people use
that for confusion of let's just use the name John
Smith with with not giving social Security because you don't
(03:26):
have to. It's an optional thing, but it creates Obviously,
there's lots of other John Smith's in the world, and
so if there's anybody that fits a profile, yes, a profile,
they will say, hold on.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Let's take a better look at this.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
But a PIN separates you from everybody else and they
know exactly who you are with information. So I'm wondering
if that would help this situation.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I don't know, so possibly for your record when they
punch in your pin, it might pop up and say
this person has had his rights restored.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Exactly. That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I'm hoping it would work that way for him and
he can't be alone.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Yeah, I'm also I believe, if my understanding is correct,
you can't even apply for a pin until one of
two things has happened. You've been denied or you've been
un reasonably delayed many times, and then you can apply
for the pin. Otherwise, their instructions say that's the only
(04:30):
time and condition.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
You know, I think Michelle. I like Michelle's idea though,
of just calling the ATF officers say look, I've had
my rights restored. How do I go about buying a gun?
What's the process? And just say you talk me through it?
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Okay? Yeah. That my ficture is if I can get
through to somebody, Yeah, that might work well.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Of course, right now you can't get through to anybody
because hey, we've got to go shut down going on exactly.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Yeah, Okay, that's I'll consider that as a roll of
good solution because I know that I don't know how
to answer that question truthfully either way. I think that anybody,
any excel who has a second limit rights is concerned
about the same thing because there is no second step
(05:14):
asking about oh well, okay, you're convicted of selling.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Right, there's no follow what are.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
The exceptions that you have allow you to do that?
And they don't ask that.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah right. The thing is, I mean, lord knows it
could be a marijuana conviction from forty years ago. You know,
you don't know what it is. But yeah, look, do
that if you would, and if you get the information,
call us back and let us know what you find out.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Okay, I will lose that.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Thank you, Tom, Thank you Marty. I appreciate that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
And the lawyers you talk to aren't the ones that
told them, yeah, you've got your rights your store.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, sure you're good.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, it's like, oh yeah, he's a lawyer. Yeah. But
you know, it's that old deal. I guess the person
who graduates last in class they still call them lawyer stuff.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I thought that only applied the doctors.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
That too, you know. And what's really bad, And I've
known some where you got somebody who actually is a
doctor with a lawyer degree. A law degree. Holy cow,
talk about insufferable. Oh I say that out loud. You
know who you are. I thought, Wayne, he's done Petaluma, California.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
Wayne, all right, Tom Hey, last week you were talking
about recording memories of relatives and things like that. But
the Library of Congress has a Veterans History Project where
they take the veterans can I guess thing of video
and oral memories of the time in service and is
(06:45):
stored at the Library of Congress so that we can
lose all these storys in the Second World War, Korea, Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
That's cool.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Yeah. I first heard about this at the San Luis
and Dispot at the type of Veterans musim there and
one of the dozens was telling me about that, and
they've recorded like several hundred memories from the veterans around
that area.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Now do you know, is this something that you can
do individually and then get it to the Library of
Congress or does it have to come through some particular
pathway or they were doing.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
I think through the American Legion or VFW in their area.
You can look it up on the internet is for
the Library of Congress Veterans History Project and give you
some contact information.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I love it. It's a brilliant idea. I mean, if you
think about all of the World War Two veterans who
were losing so many iteands like the Hardly and he
left at.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
This point, I wish there was enough time involved.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You know, they do those honor flights and take all
the veterans down to see the monuments, and gosh, if
they could spend the time with some of those vets
and get those stories.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Then oh gosh, what an incredible experience.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah right, incredible stuff. Well Wayne, thank you. I did
not know about that, but that is very worthwhile and
as much as we can, we need to capture all
of these memories. Great great information. Thanks sir uh Ty.
Before we get to Brett, I gotta tell my quick
old story. We're talking about the veterans and the stories.
You know. Of course, I'm very active in the aviation world,
and a couple of my friends were doing flights in
(08:15):
an old World War Two cargo plane at one of
these air shows and people would come up and they
could they could buy a flight, and they said they had.
This group of old guys came up, I may have
told the story before, and they said, yeah, we want
to we want to see the plane. So really said,
what's your story. And they were all part of the
(08:37):
band of brothers. Wow, I know, and my buddy Wayne
or Walter says, yeah, you guys can't come in the plane.
You can't just get in. Said, but we'll take you
for a ride. Oh cool. So they had a h
which is the Dakota gooney Bird, you know, and they
(09:00):
take off and before they do, they're all like looking like, okay,
this is where you sat, this is where I sat,
and they all had to deal right, And then they
fly them all around and they take them on a
nice I mean, they're longer than the standard. They take
them on like a twenty minute flight and they come
back when they land, Walter said, from the back of
the plane, they could hear them all going yeah. So
(09:21):
he landed, you know, he shuts down, goes back and said,
what was that big cheer for. They said, this is
the first time we ever landed. They had always jumped out.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
And it's a perfectly good airplane. Oh my gosh, that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's cool story. All right, let's take our break. We'll
get the bread when we come back.
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Speaker 3 (10:26):
All right back with you here? Do we do love
those story? I mean, and honestly, you know we show.
That's why we capture these stories, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It is why, and it's so important on so many levels.
Military is one thing, you know, the family history is another.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Things just don't get passed.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Sounds like I think this was my grandpa's pop's gun,
you know.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I all that type of stuff and get.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
To know specifically or to the best of somebody's recollection now,
because I mean a lot of people are getting a
lot older that you know, may not remember the story exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
But about how easy it is now You used to
have to write all that down. Now you just say
here grandpa and will turn on my phone. We're going
to record a video.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Tell me about this gun. Tell me about what you
did in the board, Tell me about Grandma, tell me
about how you guys met. I mean, just on and
on and on, and you loaded to the cloud and
it's there for the rest of the family.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Forever, exactly. And it's so easy to share. Everybody can
have the same story. It's just so simple.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
And you can annoy all of your relatives by show.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
You that's right.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
But you know, different people talking to the same person too,
you know, because sometimes there's more embellishment, and you know
people are willing to go more in depth with the story.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So absolutely don't.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I always say, listen to the older people, take their information,
learn from it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's it is yep, it's a part of history down
we'll never get it back.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
All right, let's grab Brett if you're still there, Hey, Brett,
you're still hanging around.
Speaker 9 (12:00):
I'm still there, Okay, Thank.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You, sir. I appreciate your patience. We're just we're kind
of wandering around like we do here, so you never
know where we're going to go. So thank you, sir.
I appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
No problem. You were talking about safety on the show
earlier today and I just wanted to tell you about
an app. It's called what three Words, And if you
open up the app, it gives you a specific three
word sequence that's unique to every spot on the earth
within about ten feet. So if you're out someplace and
you're lost, you can send somebody the three specific words
(12:33):
and they can find you.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Well, okay, I need more information. That's not clicking with
me right now, and I may be just a little slow,
do you. I don't understand what you're talking about. Exactly.
What three words that tell you where you are on
the planet.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
That's exactly right. There's three unique words that this app
will show you that's unique to wherever you're at. So
if you open it up and you're in Quarterly or
someplace like that, If you open it up and you're
in your front yard, it'll give you three unique words.
If you go across the street, it'll give you three
different unique words. And the fire department Paul Rodd Springs
(13:09):
used it to find lost hikers and things like that.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So I guess through the service they then they put
those words back in and it has probably GPS coordinates
to go with that.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
Exactly. Yeah, So I can share the coordinates where I'm
at just by I can hit the share button. I
can share those three words with you and you can
look at those three words and you can pull it
up and you're you'll know exactly where I'm at coordinates.
I don't have to know any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
As long as somebody realizes that you have this app
and that's what you're sending them, they don't think it's
just like a bunch of gobbletbook information, right.
Speaker 9 (13:47):
Yeah, Yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, because I mean it's like, why does he keep
sending me bring more beer?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
It's a smart way.
Speaker 9 (14:04):
Try try it. Let me know what you think.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I will look that up. That is sounds interesting and
look anything that makes it easier for people to do this,
to call for help and have Because you're right. The
location thing, it's you know where are people. If people
know where you are, they can come get you and
that saves time and the time can save lives.
Speaker 9 (14:27):
Yeah, exactly. So if I'm if I'm out hiking, how
do I find my GPS coordinates of where I'm at
I'm on this trail? Yeah that's good, but we're exactly
am I am I at? So if I send the
fire department those three words and I know Colorado Springs uses.
I don't know how widespread it is, but it's certainly
something that people could use.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It's another possibility I know that, like the garment in
reach or a PLB, when you hit the button, it
sends the GPS coordinates because it has GPS built in,
so where it sends, they help signal out. They get
the GPS coordinates immediately, so I know exactly where you are.
So if you have one of those devices that takes
(15:07):
care of that. But if you don't, if you're do
it through your phone, then this is a great idea
because your phone, by the way, people has GPS built in,
so it always has your coordinates.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Well, you know, that's assuming you have self service.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I was just going to say, you have to have service,
but will it work?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I was going to ask the question, you know how
that a whole sos you can still call for emergency help.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Would it work with that WhatsApp or what or what
three words app?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
I don't know in conjunction, Well, I got you if
it's an iPhone to say where am I, SyRI and
it gives you your coordinates. If somebody needed your exact
cordin I send.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
A pen if you have cell phone service, you can
rely on that too, because we do use our iPhones
out in the boonies now using the satellite function on
your iPhone sending and receiving texts.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yes, because you can. It is an option.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I know when we did some travel it asked if
I wanted to send message satellite r No.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
It works. It's slow, and you got to point your
phone at the satellite and it tells you where to
point your phone and all that, and it's a little
bit combersome. But look, if you're way out in the
boonies and don't have cell phone service, it's just nice
to have another option.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's right, you need help, you need help, you know, Yeah,
that's it's a cool way of using our technology.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Really to check out.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Thank you. I did not know about that, and I
really appreciate that. Thanks for calling that answer cool. We
did have somebody earlier he said, you know, he cares
the satellite phone with him, and you're going, well, if
you know, I've looked into that. They're not cheap, but
they're not really prohibitively expensive, and you can you can
rent one for like a month, and you know.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Doing that, aren't their conditions that they don't work in
as well.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Well, I don't think so. I mean, if you have
a view of the sky, yeah, that phone will work.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Okay, so you'd have to get out of the woods
at least to a clearing or something.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Right, Oh, I think, well, it depends, but probably works
through trees. Fine, you know, unlike starlink, which doesn't work
through trees. And we know that when I know that
because I bought it and put it in and it
didn't work because I got trees everywhere. Yeah, and it's like, okay,
that was great. Unfortunately I had a deal where you
could send it back within thirty days and get your
(17:20):
money back. Yeah. And I would love to have starlink
because it's stupid fast and really works on a lot
of people now have the portable one. They're putting in
their vehicles wherever they go and set them out and
when it works, it screams yes exactly right, So there
you go. All right, So, speaking of screaming, I will
transition over to Jim and really really fast shooting guns.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, my buddy uses my range to test his modifications
and stuff on his gun.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
He's an FFL guy.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
And you say, hey, I'm kind of and blah blah
blah blah blah and shoots some stuff. It's okay, great,
I'm leaving. Maybe i'll cross pass of the et cetera.
So Todd comes over and I hear some shooting a couple,
you know, single shot. Crack crack crack. Okay, great, So
I'm getting ready to head out to where I'm going.
And as I'm leaving the house, I hear you gotta
(18:15):
be kidney. He brought filato with him. Cool because he
brings them, you know, off and he'll bring that. But
it was like it was too short of a time
between the little twenty two cracks and this this barrage
of ammo. That was awful fast transition he does. He
doesn't handle guns like that. So I walked back there
and he's said, hey, I brought some stuff out, some toys,
and it's like, okay, what you got? And he had
a Taurus. This is all legal, by the way, folks,
(18:36):
because he's a straight up character. This is a Taurus
t X twenty two. And it's I'm guessing the twenty
two pistol semi auto holds maybe fifteen rounds and guessing,
and there's a device you buy, which is called a
forced trigger reset or force trigger reset.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Force reset trigger for in.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
It's call that too by people who know what they're
talking about, and I.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Don't to be one of those.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yes, specific exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
So he's showing it to me, I'm like, are you
sure this is legit?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
He says yeah, because you're still squeezing the trigger once
for every shot, and it's it basically emulates a bump
stock where your finger is in one position and this
is your you're just giving it like isometric. You're just
giving a little bit of pressure on the trigger as
soon as as soon as the round is discharged and
the slide comes back, the force reset pushes it back
(19:29):
to a detent as opposed to a full reset to
the beginning. So it's like, you know, stay on a
trigger reset on se my autos many have those. And
this thing was just unbelievable. And he's like, I got
to get the drums now because you can go crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
It's like, okay, it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
So I sent you an email when you get a
chance to check it out. To me, the video he
sent is just really cool. It's just a barrage of
gun fight.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
This must be something extremely popular right now, because we
were just being asked about one of these the other day.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Somebody was like, you know, is it really worth it?
Is it all about it? Like what is the wear
and tear on the firearm with it?
Speaker 8 (20:09):
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I mean, lots of concerns on the flip side of it,
But all of a sudden, this is just really gained.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It's really cool.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
And I tell you the little bit of differences that
I've learned so far is on a semiutopistol like glock has,
there's a forced reset mod you can do on the block.
Several manufacturers have them. They're all a little bit different.
It's not going to be the same part obviously, but
it makes your gun full time. I say full of,
it's not full It makes a full time faster semi
(20:37):
auto fast. Yeah, but you can't put it into any
kind of SLUGT fire position to your safety would still work,
but you don't.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
You don't have SLUGT fire.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
It's either full o or filatto, pseudo full auto or
not right right. But on the AR there's something called
a super safety and I sent your link to that too,
and it replaces your your safety switch and it gives
you safety standard select fire, you know, a single one
at a time. I used select fire, which is actually
(21:05):
bursts and stuff, but it's just a safe condition, a
single shot, single squeeze condition, or in the super safety mode,
it's just a cam and when and when it slides
back instaid.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Doing the standard procedure, you have to replace a trigger
to so it's.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
About one hundred dollars not about one hundred and twenty
dollars proposition, but you can't. Your AR would remain just
like it is now as well as in the other
mode in the middle position you now have simulated fil audo.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
It is so cool.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
So if if there's ever a problem that goes wrong though,
like if you're a reloader and have like squibbloads or
anything like that, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
You'd still lock up like you would. Yeah, I guess
the squibot followed by another.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Well that's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
It's funny.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
This this gun is like funny. This gun is the
really popular one that has caught everybody's the tension because
for two hundred and seventy nine bucks you buy the
pistol you can move so under four hundred bucks you've
got very fast semi auto.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Well, probably I'm thinking about Michelle. If these are becoming
more popular. There was the ATF decision on the foresware
set triggers that made them legal and because they had
said they were illegal, correct, And I think now that
has been reversed. So that's probably what happened, is that
people are now jumping on right.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, I mean we really have to do a little
bit of research and digging to see if there's you know,
any kind of I don't want to say maintenance issues,
but you know what I mean, like any we sare issues.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, if you increase the number rounds of going through
your gun by one hundredfold, you're going to wear it
out fast.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Really, you get down in a pro position and you
have the right wind and everything else that you're happy with.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
If you're done with so.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Much, I would just use say, hey, I don't want
to be able to make my house payment this month.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I think I'll go out back and shoot. Oh so,
all right, so you mentioned the glock. Did you guys
see the story this week that in California, Gavin Newsom
signed the bill that basically bands glock pistols because he
basically banned the you know, the glocks to take the switch,
the glock switch that makes them full out of which
(23:19):
of course that's illegal. The clock switch is illegal, and
putting it on the guns illegal. But he signed the
law that basically bans guns that can take a glock switch,
which means all glock clocks. I mean, it's going to
get challenged in court, and you know it'll be overturned.
But it just goes to the point that they are
(23:40):
willing to and will and have banned as many guns
as possible, including the most popular handgun, which I think
the glock has to be the most popular handbub.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
In the country.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
There's unbelievable they're so popular. Kamala Harris has one. I
remember what she said. Remember she said she had a glock.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I do you remember she.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Lied about everything else? She's probably lied about that.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
She didn't remember she said it, but she said it well.
And working together too long.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
You know on the radio, when you were talking about
the person that tried to intercept uh gentleman bringing in a.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Grabbed somebody brought him into the store at gunpoint.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, and this woman pulled out a firearm and shot
a couple of shots. Yeah, I said, you know, that's
Biden's school of carringting.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Get a double barrel shot gun, fire two rounds in there. Okay,
now we have an empty gun and we've told the
bad guys where we are.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But like you said, with another color, it is unfortunately,
what you know is what you see in the movies,
and this is what you see all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, wing shots even sometimes if you're watching any you know,
police shows, and the amount of warnings that they provide
to stop or to drop or whatever it is before
the fire is like, you know, take action to stop,
stop giving them the warning, but you know they're so
(25:32):
afraid of the opposite side now that probably put their
lives in danger and in jeopardy.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Sometimes.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
The other part of it is I ask people, and
I've been putting in this situation too in training, where
they say, okay, you know where I sold me, drop
the gun. Drop the gun. I say, okay, now, what
are you gonna do? What do you mean, well, what
are you gonna do? He dropped the gun, right, are
you going to arrest him? Well? No, well you tell
(25:59):
him on the ground. What if he doesn't it on
the ground, You're gonna shoot him, Uh, well, just walk
over there. What if you won't do that? What if
you won't do anything else that you told him to do?
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Going? Huh? I never thought about all that stuff. You
don't want to.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Say, Could you just pick up their gun again? Just
for a second, just just.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Brief Probably not good because somebody's got video of it,
trust right?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Good?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
No, I just think people will think about okay, and
then what that's the old Clint Smith deal? Say okay, great,
and then what I'm gonna do this right? Okay? And
then what or and if that doesn't work, what's your
plan when that doesn't work? And then when the next
thing doesn't work, and then when the next thing doesn't work,
what's your plan? You know? What I'm thinking is I'm
(26:48):
not there to apprehend anybody, and I'm most certainly not
there to try to hold them for the police. I
am perfectly happy if they've run away, if they won't
run away, run.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Away, I'm certain like we never want to.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Police don't actually want to engage and have to fire
up on anybody. I'm sure that they don't, you know,
And so they do provide that opportunity to allow you
to make a better decision.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Well, and also, but they have the duty to apprehend.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yes, yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
See they've got to now go up to them and
put them in handcuffs. We don't have to do that stuff, right,
We're not there to try to hold them for anyone.
And people make that mistake. Well, and save me from
people who say I'll make a citizen's arrest. That may
be the stupidest thing that can come out of your mouth.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Oh I could not trust me.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't agree.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Give me a second again.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
You know what I believe in you.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
You can impactor, you can do it.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Oh goodness, Yeah, there's all that stupid stuff citizens arrest
or your car is an extension of your home? No,
it's not. Whoever told you that's an idiot? Well, here's
a lawyer. I rest my case.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, unless it's a motor home.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I was going to say, Harvey's are yep.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Nope, Oh no, what do you mean? Nope, you're in.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I don't know who told you that. It's not true.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Okay, I told you I could screw up.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Go find find a statute that says your vehicle is
an extension of your home doesn't exist. Okay, Now, is
there a place where you can be legally. Yeah, sure,
you got to stand your ground laws, but you can
be legally anywhere. But in terms of you know, your
home being an extension your car being extension of your home,
I don't think so people, you know, but it's been
(28:48):
said so many times. People just so, yeah, that's true,
heard in all my life.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, And what I was thinking was that you do
have standard ground when you are in a camper trailer
the type of thing.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, yes, yes, but it's not part of your home.
It's just another place where you have where you can
be legally and don't have to leave. But in standard
ground states that can be a sidewalk to anywhere you are.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
You don't have to mis use phrase.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
I'm thinking if I'm in my IRV and somebody kicks
the door and night night.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
But it's certainly true, but that has nothing to do
with it being part of your home. It's just one
of those phrases that people use that came out of
somewhere and they repeat it. They don't even think about
it and going, well what does that actually mean? You know?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
So corrected, thank you, just right.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I mean, look, somebody may correct me and say, oh no,
there's a statue. I haven't seen it. It may exist.
I haven't seen everything, but I think that's another one
of these myths.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well, somebody should let us know if it's wrong.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Unless they'll trust me.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
They will.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
What they stand to correct you.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
They get in line to correct me, go o on.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Eggs, battle off left and right. You do Okay, Yeah,
but that's just courage.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Well keyboard here, I like it. I like it. Well
if I if the weather clears, I will go l cunning.
If it doesn't, it won't, but at any rate, we
will have a different kind of a show, very different
kind of a show here next week for people. We're
not gonna tell them about it, but it will be
kind of cool. And then the following week I'll be
(30:30):
back with arrange report on l hunting. As I prepare
for the next time, which is a muldeer hunt. Spoiled
cheez we may have to put in order for a
new freezer.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
A new freezer. You're just working your way down the
food chain. You're going from the largest.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I know, from the biggest to the smallest. Never going
rabbit hunting. They were going to get one of those
little under the counter apartment college dorm refrigerator freezers, a
little hole about six beers and a chipmunk.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
And chipunk the animal.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
You know, you gotta have like a dozen chipmunks to
have a meal. It's can tell you those a little
bitty guys.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, that's not even going to fill a skewer, one
little morsel coming off of them.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
It's like we used to go grab frogs at night.
You need a big stack of frogs to get a meal.
Let me just tell you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, I can imagine those places that do unlimited frog legs.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Oh yeah, boy, there's got to be commercially raised.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Out gigging all night long.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah. And for us in Louisiana, the law was you
couldn't break the skin, so you couldn't gig them. Really,
we would grab them with our hands, and sometimes that
thing with the shiny eyes wasn't a frog at all.
The cotton mouth Ah oh yeah, it's like, oh, that's
(31:59):
when the guy in the run of the boat is
all of a sudden sitting on top of you in
the back of the boat.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
No wonder you moved to Idaho.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
That's right. I'd rather do deal with the bears than those.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Like countries you want to go to it's like, yeah,
I don't want you anymore. Everything there wants to kill you, Like,
I'm all right?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Do they have bugs as big as a cat? No?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, no, I don't need to be carried away by
that exactly.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Maggie is speaking of carried away. I think we pretty
much have got that way.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
What we got there? That's it's Jim's almost nice way
of saying, any guys need to shut the hell up.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That's right, he's saying night night time.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
See there it is subtle, huh, not all that much,
but effective nonetheless. So there you go. Do you guys
have a great week? Yeah, and I will try. We'll
try to stay somewhat dry and have a good time
out there.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Hopefully it clears up so you can go so we
can hear all about it and live through you.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Absolutely, we're a little have fun and you know there'll
be moose and AlCH elk meat for everyone.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Nice you say that line. Yeah, I'm setting the.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
List links to the dry ice sights around him.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Well, what did I just have a deal where you
could just click on it and it'll just appear out
of your computer.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
When your computer's back work an you mean.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah, me and my computers. We have a love hate
relationship and there's no love left.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Stay safe, my friend, all right, Take care, guys.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
We'll catch you next time for the gun talk after show.
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