September 28, 2025 • 43 mins
In This Hour:L
-- A massive fire burned milions of rounds of ammunition and primers and tens of thousands of pounds of gun powder How Powder Valley is recovering and the ways friends and even competitors reached out to help.
-- When someone is unsafe with a gun, don't be shy about speaking up.
-- In an active shooter situation the person with a concealed firearm can shoot back, stopping or even slowing the attacker, and that can and has saved lives.
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-- A massive fire burned milions of rounds of ammunition and primers and tens of thousands of pounds of gun powder How Powder Valley is recovering and the ways friends and even competitors reached out to help.
-- When someone is unsafe with a gun, don't be shy about speaking up.
-- In an active shooter situation the person with a concealed firearm can shoot back, stopping or even slowing the attacker, and that can and has saved lives.
Gun Talk 09.28.25 Hour 3
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
All right, we're about picking.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
You know, a few weeks ago, we had something happened
in our industry. One of the companies had a tragedy
befall them. Ryan was able to grab an interview with
folks from Powder Valley talking about this big fire they had,
and he did a great job with an interview with
them on gun Talk Nation. And I grabbed a bit
of that and I wanted you to hear it because
(00:35):
I think it is an important story, not so much
for the impact to the industry as it is of
the impact of the industry in helping one of its members.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Here's that story, all right.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Today on the show, we've got Brian and Noel Richardson
from Powder Valley. And if you're a reloader, if you're
a gun NERD, well you probably are gun nerd because
you're into this show, you probably know Powder Valley and
some crazy stuff has happened this week, and so we
wanted to talk to them. Brian Newell, welcome in.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Thank you, Thanks thanks for having us.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So, I mean, you guys are known for reloading supplies
and ammunition, and you you sell a lot of stuff online,
which means you have a big warehouse that holds all
this stuff. And we won't bury the lead it caught
on fire this week. Tell us, tell us where we're at.
Tell us about Powder Valley. Maybe we'll start there.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
You know, it's really a family oriented business.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yeah, it's a it's a good story actually because when
we when we first start conception of Power Valley, it
was the good old boy. It was a local reloader said, man,
I can't get powder. My friends can't get powder. How
we're going to shoot? And he said, all right, I'm
(02:02):
going to figure out how to get powder, and it
just it grew. It's a it's basically shooters supporting shooters
is what it started and still kind of where we're
grounded today.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You guys were kind of early on in being that
online resource for buying these components and all these supplies
for shooters.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Yeah, we really started around the idea of and people
think this is nuts. We wanted to offer every hazardous
material possible for shooters so that they would have one
place to be able to go for their powder and
their primers, and then over the years we just started
expanding beyond that into a wide offering of bullets and
(02:50):
brass and then ammunition, and then now we're more of
a outdoor enthusiasts store because we offer a wide array
of products from camping supplies to more shooting supplies, pretty
much any if you're an outdoor enthusiast, we pretty much
(03:11):
have about anything you're looking for.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, I mean, I always think of you guys as
the reloading side and the ammunition side, but archery, camping, clothing,
gun parts, hunting stuff, muzzle loading, optics, you do quite
a lot. When I heard this news that there had
been this big warehouse fire, I thought, oh my gosh.
And especially just the nature of the products you guys carry,
(03:36):
that kind of brings an extra question or concern in
my head. Tell us about, walk us through what happened.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
So we were actually at our sons down in Norman, Oklahoma,
and so we had a house sitter here at our house,
and around two in the morning, we.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Have two little corgies. Any little noise in the evening
or in the night, they want to let us know,
and they alerted her that there was something going on.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Fortunately, really was this, I mean is the house kind
of near the warehouse or physically.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Well that yeah, that's a funny part. Our commute is
a walk, so our company is walking distance from our home,
and we positioned it so we could see the business
and so could our animals. So best security around.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah, we our commuter is about three hundred yards every
day to work. Yeah, so our our sitter woke up
and was able to call the fire department and get things,
get things started.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
So we met with our local fire department numerous times
just to let them understand the layout of our warehouse
and so they were completely aware of that when they arrived.
They also were aware that smokeless powder that we housed
there burns quickly, hot and quickly, but there's no danger
(05:06):
of explosion. So they understood that there was AMMO and
powder and all the components. So fortunately they reached dright
in and tried to put that out in a safe
manner for themselves as well.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
And obviously I've had a house fire in my family
and even when they get the fire put out, they're
spraying water everywhere. I mean, it's they're causing damage to
stop the damage, I mean to some degree, right.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Right, right, Yeah, so that you know, they did a
great job trying to protect property. And I don't know
how many people are here in Cali County, but every
fire department in Cali County was here fighting fighting that fire.
And we know a lot of those people, and so
you know, they were here fighting for us, and they
(06:00):
did everything it could to to save what they could,
and and uh, you know, from the point of going
into our offices and trying to retrieve the servers and
protect our data and and you know, Lord knows we
have all these mouths on the wall, and so you
know they they were doing they were doing everything that
(06:21):
they could to save save what they could at the business.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
So people are going, Okay, a fire at an ammunition
reloading warehouse, but I mean I know it, but I'm
kind of also curious like it. So there weren't explosions happening.
It just burned, is that right?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
I think a common misconception is, you know, we especially
our age, you know, we all grew up watching the
old Western movies.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And you get.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Somebody out there and they're running powder along the ground
into a building and and a keg and then boom,
it blows the building up, but spoke with power is
not an explosive hazard in the ways that we store it.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
At this point, what was the extent of the damage.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Are the warehouse itself and all our inventory is a
complete loss A portion of our office is they're calling
it a complete loss just due to the smoke damage
and water from preventing the fire from being there. So yeah,
there is no inventory left.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Then whatsoever?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Do you have an idea of the amount of inventory
burned up? Like, you know, is it I mean, just
for the audience, is it like a certain number of
rounds or poundage of of kegs.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Or something like?
Speaker 6 (07:47):
I mean, you know, that's funny that you mentioned that,
because we've actually been trying to go through and get
that in our mind. And you know, we we probably
had well over a million rounds of ammunition. The amount
of powder that we had, you know, we're guessing somewhere
around thirty pounds somewhere around there, but we've not actually
(08:10):
put a pencil to that to figure out those exact
numbers yet.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
And primers we probably had five six million primers somewhere
around there.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Okay, so total loss. I guess where are you guys
at as a business? What have you heard from customers?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
It is crazy the outpouring of love from the community
as a whole, just you know, we're here for you.
What can we do for you? How can we help?
It's amazing, it really is. Yeah, it makes you see
the value of this larger family.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's something in our industry, in
the shooting community. Of the brands that people use, they're very,
very loyal to the places they shop, they're very, very
loyal to I mean, if somebody grew up, you know,
it's like we're a Remington family. You know, we shoot Remington, right,
(09:16):
So it's it's not just some some you know, product
that they don't think about. So at this point, how
can people help and support you guys?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Yeah, you know, it's it's interesting you talk about community
because the you look at some of the ammunition that's
pay ab out there, and you've got federal ammunition that's
sporting Sierra bullets or Barn bullets. This industry as a whole,
we know and we understand with the industry that we're
in that we all support each other no matter what,
(09:52):
and we we have had suppliers reach out to us
and say, hey, how can we help you. We've had
a petitor reach out to us and say how can
we help you? You know, which is which is amazing
in itself, but but as a shooting sports community Second
Amendment foundation, you know, we're we're all here and we're
(10:14):
all supporting each other. And that's that's the love and
and motivation that we've felt from everybody in our industry
is that you know this, this is you know, we
may be one small piece of the pie, but we're
an interpril cog in the community and that you know,
we're going to We're going to find a way and
(10:36):
and they're you know, we've been offered so much help
to find that way back to getting operational and uh,
and we're we're not quitters. You know, you have these
moments of feeling a little bit sorry for yourself and
and then you know, then you get these kind of
motivational words from from a customer that may have been
(10:59):
a customer for twenty years. For us, it's like, you know, hey,
you're my go to I believe in you, and and
it just those kind of things are the things that
motivate us to keep moving forward and and and you know,
we want to say one step forward, two steps back,
but really since the fire, it's been two step forward,
(11:20):
one step back. And you know we're not knocking down
the barriers as they come our way.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah, well, that's good to hear having been through. I
live down here in hurricane territory and been through some
of that, and I mean, frankly, I mean I lived
in New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina came through.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So you know, when you have.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
That level of devastation and the house is gone, and
there are those moments, Brian, where you're gone, how in
the world are we going to like come out on
the other side of this? But you got to work
through all the bull crap. You got to work through
the insurance stuff and the construction stuff and the demolition
stuff and in your case, restocking and whatever it may be, right,
(12:06):
But I mean, those memories will they'll always be there,
but it just fades out and you just move on
and then it's all of a sudden, you know, it's
like it's four years later, there's a new warehouse. There's
you're up and running, You're you're cranking, you're you're selling
stuff and you go, man, that was crazy, but come
out on the other side of.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
It, right, yeah, yeah, And that's kind of the deal.
It's all about things, and you when you're at this point,
you realize it's not the things, it's the heart of
the Powder Valley team and that pulls you through and
it's and it's our community support and that those aren't things.
(12:45):
And that's that's what we need to keep remembering.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
How can people if they're listening to this, is there
something that they can do to help? I mean they
want to purchase or maybe like gift cards or I
don't know how you guys are working that right now?
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Yeah, you know, the the biggest thing is you know,
offering prayers for our family, prayers for our staff, uplifting
motivational things that you know they can send down the
line to offer words of encouragement, you know. And also
keeping in mind, you know, we are we are more
than just a reloading superstore, you know, where we offer
(13:28):
all all items for outdoor enthusiasts. We still so we
our primary location is here in Kansas and that was
what was destroyed, but we do ship things out of
another location and we do still have quite an offering
to be able to to satisfy the needs there. So
that kind of support would those kind of things would
(13:50):
be wonderful. We also have gift cards, you know, but
but anything, you know, we know that the community is
thinking about us. We're thinking about the community, and uh,
you know, we're we're pushing to move forward.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Well, the good thing is reloaders and shooters. They're always
needing more stuff. They're gonna shoot it up, They're going
to keep loading. And I mean, really you think about reloading.
I feel like it is having a moment in the
last couple of years. It's it's just hot these days,
even even guys without gray hair or reloading, which is
a good thing.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yes, it is a good thing. They used to joke
that that portion of our industry was aging, and I
think that downtime with COVID let some of those younger
people see that, hey, this is this is a good thing.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Oh yeah, and you've got the movement of of of
the long range shooting, NRL hunting all that, and these
are these these young guys who are either perhaps ve's
perhaps have just gotten into it and this is like
their new cool sport. And to do that and keep up.
You know, when you're loading the six gt or something
(14:59):
kind of a little bit goofy, you're gonna have to
get into reloading. So if you guys listening, if you
maybe weren't aware of powder value, now you are. And
it's a resource for supplies, you know, and a lot
of other stuff. And these are some of the good guys.
Family owned company, lots of family owned companies in our world.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
And another one.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
So, Brian Nowell, thanks for being on with us, Thanks
for sharing your story.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
All right, we'll be right back.
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Speaker 3 (17:50):
I didn't know if I want to talk about this today.
Happened last night, Yeah, I'm going to it. How was
that a local event? Fundraiser for our local gun club.
Good event, good turnout, And like a lot of theseier
they're auctioning off guns or raffling off guns and all.
And we had a one of the guys who's no
officer of the club, has this gun and he's walking
(18:12):
around the room, and the people at my table are going, whoa, whoa,
it's a handgun, actions closed, and he's pointing it everywhere.
He's got his finger on the trigger. He's pointed it
everywhere all over the room. This goes on for a
while while he's talking into a microphone and all, and
(18:34):
and nobody else is doing anything. So finally I just
stand up and walk over as he's walking around the
room and get right up behind him, standing there right
behind him, and lean int. My mouth is right next
to his ear while he's going through his spiel, and
I said, you need to stop pointing that gun at people.
(18:56):
He said, well, yeah, I may have flagged a few people.
I said, no, you've pointed that gun at everybody in
the room. He said, well, at least I wasn't preferential.
In other words, I didn't leave out anybody. I pointed
it to everybody, and finally he opened the action of
the gun. He said, well that's better. I said, well, yeah, okay,
(19:20):
I got to talk with people who run the club.
They're going to address that, have different protocol and work
on that. I didn't want.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
To have to be the guy who did that.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I didn't want to call him out, like yell out
him in front of everybody. I try not to be rude,
to try not to, but after a while I couldn't
sit there anymore and just walked up right behind him
and leaned in where only he could hear me. But
I made real sure he could hear me. If I
(20:01):
hadn't gotten some kind of positive reaction from him in
terms of opening the action of the gun. I guess
they would have had to go to a different level.
We would have had to do something else. I don't
know what that would have been. I passed it along
only for this, and this has been being cleaned up.
(20:23):
People who run the club are on top of it,
and they're working on it. Don't be afraid to say something.
Some friends of mine, actually, some people who were at
the table last night, we were in a casillo carry
class where the instructor was pointing his gun at people
in the class. Turns out it was this carry gun.
(20:45):
Turns out it was loaded, and they spoke up in
the middle of the class said hey, hey, hey, you
point your gun. He said, well, so it's unloaded. Well
number one doesn't matter. Number two turns that wasn't. We
are all range safety officers, We are all responsible for
(21:11):
safety with guns, even guns we're not handling. As a result,
we all have to have the courage.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
To speak up.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
You don't have to be rude, you don't have to
be nasty, you don't have to be loud unless it's
called for. If it is, it is. But I kind
of been kicking myself for waiting so long last night
I should have done it earlier, should have done it sooner.
I guess I'm just passing it along to say, look,
be aware, be alert, and don't be shy about being
(21:46):
the range safety officer wherever you are, wherever somebody is
handling a gun. Hey, what's that muscle? Hey, get your
finger off the trigger. And if you get a pushback
like oh, it's not a big deal. At that point,
you probably have to take it up a notch to
make your point. And if none of that works, then
(22:08):
just leave. Make sure you're not in the same place.
I'm sorry, but you know what, we're all responsible for
safety for everybody. Okay, okay, okay, yes, you're right. Jim
corrected me. It's CQB, not QCB. CQB for close quarters battle.
I got it wrong twice.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Also, I see it looks like they have identified the
shooter murderer in Michigan. I will not be mentioning his
name because I don't want him to have the infamy
that he desires. I don't want him to be famous.
I don't want him to be known for killing people.
A lot of these folks, that's what they want. They
(22:52):
want to go out in the blaze of glory, and look,
I know I can't do anything about him, he's dead,
But by not mentioning his name, we can stop encouraging
the follow ons, the copycats. At least that's my take.
They're gonna have a lot more information about him, about
why did he do it, which side is he on,
(23:17):
what we'res motivations you heard me say before. That's for
other people to talk about, because that, for me falls
into the category of I don't care, don't care, crazy person,
mad person, leftist, rightist, whatever, just don't care. The only
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thing I care about is how can I increase the
odds of surviving? How can I protect myself and my family?
What do I need to carry? What skills do I
need to take care of the situation if and when
it actually happens. The rest of it is for somebody else.
That's for society, that's for online chatter, and you guys
just go have fun, to get mad at each other
(24:01):
and do that thing that you do. I'm more practical.
I'm living in the real world of right now. What
can I do to make myself safer? Not just carrying
a gun, carrying a tourniquet, carrying a medical kit.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Being able to stop the bleed.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
People bleed out and you could save them if they
don't bleed out, if help gets there in five minutes.
But they blowed out in three and you could have
stopped with a tourniquet. Why aren't you carrying a tourniquet? Really,
let's go talk to Scott. He's online one calling out
Missouri Hell Scott.
Speaker 12 (24:34):
Hey, Tom, A couple of questions. What is your opinion?
I don't think I've ever heard you talk about this,
but like style of scope rings and laughing and stuff
like Teddy. I mean, well, the reason I'm asking is
I've got a new twenty two rifle Hammerley one, and
(24:59):
I'm trying to get it set up up as best
I can. And I've been reading something about laughing rings
and steel rings versus living them rings and kind of
one of your opinion.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You're you've gone beyond my abilities. I am not a
target shooter, and when you're shooting hammerly, you're you're a
target shooter. And I don't lap rings, scope rings. I
don't do that. And maybe it helps and maybe it
gives you that extra tenth m A. I don't know,
it's just not my world, and I wish I could
(25:33):
help you with it, but I just don't know. I mean,
I know about it, but I don't do that. Is
there something else I might help with?
Speaker 12 (25:40):
No, I just that Hammerly. It's a it's a fine
little rough. It's got the oh yeah, the barrel that
pops off with the new one that's got the you
switch between twenty two mag and twenty two barrel and
I've got both of them and they're really nice.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Oh yeah, got they've been making Olympic Olympic gre rifles
for decades, so yeah. And handguns that the Hamley handguns
are some of the finest in the world.
Speaker 12 (26:08):
Okay, that's what I wanted to I appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
All right.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Sorry, I couldn't help you with that when it was
just beyond my ability, and I appreciate the call. If
you've got some thoughts on that, it's something you could offer.
On lapping scope rings, there's you know what, there are
YouTube videos for that, of course, there are YouTube videos
for everything. Uh let me, yeah, Jim says, we'll explain it.
Lapping scope rings is basically putting a if you have
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one inch scope rings made for a one inch scope
one inch diameter tube. Then you get one inch diameter
rod and you put it in those rings, and you
put a lapping compound a mild a brace on it,
and you run this rod back and forth to smooth
everything out and trying. What you're trying to do is
(26:53):
make sure there's no torque that'd be the right term. Basically,
that the rings line up correctly and the scope lays
in there, there's no excess pressure or stress put on
the scope tube itself. So you do this lapping, and
you can buy a scope lapping or scope ring lapping
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kit with the rod and the bracelet and the whole deal.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
For me, look, if I'm going.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
To shoot a deer at two hundred and three hundred yards,
scope lapping is not going to make any difference at all.
Scope ring lapping, it's just not you know, if you're
going to be shooting something at a thousand yards, yep,
maybe it's important. Or if you're going to be shooting
at twenty two at fifty one hundred yards and you're
that last tenth of an inch or less than that
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is what you're looking for, maybe it makes a difference.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Not my world, not the thing.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I do access having a conversation with a friend this morning,
said you know, I personally and that this is going
to get crosswise with a lot of people out there
who say, oh, you just don't know. Well, maybe it's
I don't know, and maybe it's that I don't care.
I'm not going to use dialing turrets on hunting scope.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Oh Tom, you're so out of it.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, okay, I've lost one elk because of dialing turrets,
because they spun as I was carrying the rifle. The
zero stop didn't work, and when it came time to shoot,
scope was so far off. I missed an ELK. If
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I'm only going to shoot to four hundred yards and
that's my personal limit, I don't need to dial the scope.
I know where it shoots. Up to three hundred yards.
I'm going to hold right where I want to shoot him,
just hold dead on And at four hundred yards, I
still hold on hair, just inside the back line with
(28:56):
my particular bullet and cartridge and velocity and everything else.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Beyond four hundred yards, I get closer. Now.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
If you want to choose something at seven nine hundred yards,
you got a dial, do your thing.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Have fun. It's not for me. I think for the
kind of hunting I do.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Or I'm carrying that rifle all over the mountain and
I'm carrying a backpack and it's rubbing up against stuff.
I don't want turrets that can rub up against things
and move. Having been burned badly on that one time,
I'm not going back there. And yes, that certainly labels
(29:39):
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Gun that's our phone. Number we're open lines looking for your.
Calls ken called in out Of, Medford oregon with a
range or. Poor, Hey, ken what you been? Shooting?
Speaker 14 (32:29):
SEE i had a really good day with My Henry
Lever action twenty. TWO i love that little. Gun and
WHEN i got done, SHOOTING i decided to send in
a picture to my brother down In, california where we
kind of go back and forth shooting. Intense we were
about AND i covered up the bullseye with a quarter
(32:51):
and there was one shot outside the quarter and he
sent me back a message and, says, hey you missed the.
QUARTER i, Okay, BACK i sent him a picture of
the target without the quarter on, it fourteen rounds behind
the quarter and one just outside the. Quarter and he, says,
(33:13):
okay you're just showing. Off, HEASE i couldn't hit the
broad side of a barn IF i was standing in.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It, oh, well you know what it, is showing, Off
and that's, okay because that's what we. Do we have
fun doing. That so all, Right so what was the?
Range how far was the?
Speaker 14 (33:25):
Target, okay it's fifty, yards.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Really fifty, yards whether it's twenty two lever actions scope
or iron sights.
Speaker 12 (33:34):
Scope, okay.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So that's some good. Shooting.
Speaker 14 (33:39):
Man IF i have used that to compete with my,
granddaughter she has better eyes THAN i.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Got, well, yeah of, course that's kind of the definition
of granddaughter and. Grandson you, know they're that much younger
and they have these eyes that we can only barely.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Remember.
Speaker 14 (33:51):
Yeah but, yeah my, brother we've been shooting against each
other since we were about ten years. Old is he's
a year older than, me and we used to shoot
squirrels all the time and. Rabbits but he's lost his.
Edge in, FACT i don't think he ever had a.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Edge that sounds like brother, talking you.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
KNOW i really liked the idea of this long distance
back and forth with your brother or a buddy or.
Somebody they send them a picture of target and then
they send something back and he, said, oh, yeah well
what about? This and that's just it's not exactly like
going to the range and shooting. Together but it's kind
of like, that isn't.
Speaker 14 (34:33):
It, yeah five hundred miles, apart BUT i can still
raise him on.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
It there you, GO i like. IT i like, it,
well the great range. Report i'm glad you're liking That Love.
Speaker 12 (34:42):
Action it is so.
Speaker 14 (34:44):
Much fun to shoot. It it's the most Fun i've
had shooting SINCE i was, young AND i had my
old Both action twenty two THAT i used to shoot
all the. TIME i still have that, one but The
henry's so much more fun to.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Shoot let me.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Ask, you Because i'm sure you've had this experience when
you hand a lever action to somebody and they shoot,
it don't they just universally start.
Speaker 12 (35:08):
Smiling yep every.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Time, yeah it's the craziest. Thing it's, Like, wow that's really.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Fun and a lot of people just never even think
about getting a lever action, rifle and then you get,
one you, go why DIDN'T i do?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
This? Years.
Speaker 14 (35:25):
Ago, YEAH i handed a couple of my friends AND
i let them shoot, it AND i, says, now look
see you're a.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Cowboy, yeah that's right there you. Go all, right great,
range reports, sir AND i love the idea of the
back and forth with your.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Brother that is.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Terrific you, know we talk about the forty five seventy
lever actions and they're great and, fun but that's a
fair amount of, recoil and then it was a little.
EXPENSIVE a twenty two rim fire lever action it's so much.
Fun and, yeah The magnums are fun. Too i've got
to shot. Those used to have the Was winchester ninety
(36:01):
four to twenty two m which was their lever The
magnum version of their lever. Action their ninety four to
twenty two was really. Good and of Course marlon has
had theirs hoping That ruger brings out Their marlin and
a twenty two Rim fire. Soon that would be. TERRIFIC
i would be one of the first in line to get.
That that would be just so much. Fun but of
(36:23):
Course henry has lots of, them AND i think who
Else savage has? Them other people HAVE, rossi others have
Lever action twenty two's now. Inexpensive first of, all they're generally,
speaking the rifles are fairly. Inexpensive, obviously THE amo is
very inexpensive and just. Fun and if you get one
that has a threaded, barrel and that may not Be
(36:45):
John wayne, exactly but now you put a suppressure on.
It you got this little bit skinny suppressures for twenty
twos and they kind of look kind of cool and
they're really, quiet especially if you find some SUBSONIC. Ammo
and now you're having just more fun than you can. Imagine,
OH i was out of the range yesterday FOR i
was doing my, thing chasing that problematic eight three thirty
(37:08):
eight out.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Six there was a guy.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
SHOOTING i was waiting for him to finish SO i could,
Shoot AND i, said, well calorie shooting. There he, says
that's a SEVEN. Prc, so oh, yeah he had it
all fixed. Up he's getting ready for hunting. Season he
had a can on, it he, says, well and he's
using ear muffs hearing. Protection he, says, WELL i don't
really need hearing, protection BUT i wear it. ANYWAY i, said, oh,
(37:32):
yeah you, know when you got a supersonic round like,
that you still have the crack of the, bullet and that's.
Loud it's much quieter than it would be without the.
Suppressor and he said. Rightly so he, says you, KNOW
i want to hold on to all the HEARING i have,
Left AND i, thought, yeah that's pretty. Smart we, uh
(37:54):
just naturally not even noise anything. Else just as we get,
older you're going to lose some, hearing just like your
eye SIT's not the, same and you want to hold
on to everything you. Can you want to be able
to hear birds. Singing you want to be able to
hear your grandchildren laughing in the other. Room you want
to hear all that cool. Stuff and if you don't believe,
it talk to somebody who's lost the. Hearing they'll tell
you how important it. Is just a reminder about hearing.
(38:18):
PROTECTION i like the idea we talk about doubling up
wearing foam plugs as well as, earmuffs and that works really.
WELL i have a whole bunch of ear, muffs shooting.
Muffs but you know what you might want to do
is go buy one of those big, bags like a
hundred phone, plugs and then take some small ziplock bags
(38:39):
and put like four or six of these ear plugs
in each, one and leave one in each of the
gluck compartments of your, Vehicles leave one in your shooting,
bag leave one in your shooting, coat leave a bag
anywhere you might need or find, it and, say, oh,
YEAH i have some ear. Plugs i'll put those in
in case everybody forgot. Theirs you also have loaners that
(39:00):
would be kind of. You don't have you call me right.
Now you can get on the after show because we're
going to be practicing moose call like during an after.
Show you definitely do not want to miss. That let's
go talk To george on. Too He's Industo. California where
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the range are for? It Hey, george what you're?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Shooting?
Speaker 15 (39:24):
HEY i have A ruger ten twenty. TWO i didn't
even know they made him in starting fiber, barrels but
that easily became one of my most favorite guns to. Shoot,
now why is? That it's just it's cheap and it's super,
light AND i put a red don on, it and
it's really, accurate AND i just have a blast at the.
(39:45):
Range especially because it's, CHEAP i don't have to spend
a ton of.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Money and they're. Accurate they're stupid, accurate aren't?
Speaker 14 (39:51):
They very?
Speaker 15 (39:53):
Accurate and super? LIGHT i can't WHEN i WHEN i
held it in my hand WHEN i first found WHEN
i first found, IT i was pleasant surprised BECAUSE i
was holding on to the other. Ones i'm, like, Dang
and it's. Perfect SO i can teach my nephew how
to shoot because he's kind of a smaller. Guy that's
perfect wait for.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Him do you have some of the Extra of course
you're In, california so you can't HAVE i guess you
can't have the twenty five round, mags can?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
You?
Speaker 15 (40:18):
No AND i can't have a suppressor, either WHICH i
really WISH i could because they have that thread and. Barrel.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Ah, yeah, well one of these days we're gonna we'll
keep working on we might be able to get that.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Fixed you know.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
What in the, meantime let me throw out a, suggestion
if you don't already, belong join The California rifle And Pistol.
Association that's the group that's working to get these restrictions
taken off In. California so it's a really good group
and they'll also keep informed on what's going. On, hey
great range of part The ruger ten twenty. Two it's
one of those THAT i just, think, like if you're
(40:51):
really into, guns everybody out to have one of. THOSE
i MEAN i have, three maybe. Three there may be
more than that hiding in the back of the.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
SAFE i don't.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
KNOW i got a couple of that were customized By
Clark Custom guns back when they first started making The
accurize ten twenty twos for anybody else that's doing, Them
and these are one inch guns at one hundred. Yards
if you can find a no win, situation it's. Crazy and,
now of course you can buy ten twenty twos that
shoot like, that and you can buy knockoff ten twenty
(41:19):
twos that are actually quite a bit more expensive that
are crazy. Accurate but, honestly if you don't have A
ruger ten twenty, two if you want to do yourself a,
favor it's, Like, okay we're getting Toward christmas is coming
before you know.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
It maybe put that on your. List you know, what
the best.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Way to make sure you get what you want For
christmases buy it for, yourself because sometimes the hinting works
and sometimes it doesn't. Work and if you really and
truly want a specific thing it's, like not something that's,
close not something that's almost as, good but the real
(41:59):
thing exactly the way you want. It if you want it
with a carbon fire or, barrel if you want it
with this particular, stock if you want it with that
particular barrel, length whatever it, is you probably ought to
get it for yourself and just put a note in
there say it's From.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Santa whatever works for. You.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
OKAY i only know this from, experience because there was
a come ALONG i, Wanted, YEAH i didn't get the right.
One there was a fishing landing NED i, Wanted, YEAH
i didn't get the right. One so my wife AND
i have just kind of come up with a plan
which she, says get it for. Yourself that way you'll
get the right. One, yep that's our plan that works for.
(42:34):
Us so there you. Go in the, meantime let's return
to this one subject of being your own range. Officer
everybody has to be their own range, officer eating macon
call cease fire and a range for a safety, issue
and you can speak up if somebody is not handling
a gun safely around, you and also be willing and
(42:55):
able and frankly eager to vacate the. Premises if you
see somebody doing something stupid or unsafe for the, gun
get a word or two from. You doesn't get the
response you, need get, up get out the, door and,
leave just as simple as. That in the, meantime let
me suggest you go out and do more. Shooting more
(43:15):
shooting means better, shooting generally, speaking take a, class get
out there and recommit with carrying all the. Time the
bad guys are. There they show up when you're least.
Expected that's their, plan and, sometimes like, today they show
up they want to kill everybody. There you may be
the one that saves. Lives make that commitment carry all the.
(43:36):
Time it's that.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
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All right, we're about picking.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
You know, a few weeks ago, we had something happened
in our industry. One of the companies had a tragedy
befall them. Ryan was able to grab an interview with
folks from Powder Valley talking about this big fire they had,
and he did a great job with an interview with
them on gun Talk Nation. And I grabbed a bit
of that and I wanted you to hear it because
(00:35):
I think it is an important story, not so much
for the impact to the industry as it is of
the impact of the industry in helping one of its members.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Here's that story, all right.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Today on the show, we've got Brian and Noel Richardson
from Powder Valley. And if you're a reloader, if you're
a gun NERD, well you probably are gun nerd because
you're into this show, you probably know Powder Valley and
some crazy stuff has happened this week, and so we
wanted to talk to them. Brian Newell, welcome in.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Thank you, Thanks thanks for having us.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So, I mean, you guys are known for reloading supplies
and ammunition, and you you sell a lot of stuff online,
which means you have a big warehouse that holds all
this stuff. And we won't bury the lead it caught
on fire this week. Tell us, tell us where we're at.
Tell us about Powder Valley. Maybe we'll start there.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
You know, it's really a family oriented business.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yeah, it's a it's a good story actually because when
we when we first start conception of Power Valley, it
was the good old boy. It was a local reloader said, man,
I can't get powder. My friends can't get powder. How
we're going to shoot? And he said, all right, I'm
(02:02):
going to figure out how to get powder, and it
just it grew. It's a it's basically shooters supporting shooters
is what it started and still kind of where we're
grounded today.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You guys were kind of early on in being that
online resource for buying these components and all these supplies
for shooters.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Yeah, we really started around the idea of and people
think this is nuts. We wanted to offer every hazardous
material possible for shooters so that they would have one
place to be able to go for their powder and
their primers, and then over the years we just started
expanding beyond that into a wide offering of bullets and
(02:50):
brass and then ammunition, and then now we're more of
a outdoor enthusiasts store because we offer a wide array
of products from camping supplies to more shooting supplies, pretty
much any if you're an outdoor enthusiast, we pretty much
(03:11):
have about anything you're looking for.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, I mean, I always think of you guys as
the reloading side and the ammunition side, but archery, camping, clothing,
gun parts, hunting stuff, muzzle loading, optics, you do quite
a lot. When I heard this news that there had
been this big warehouse fire, I thought, oh my gosh.
And especially just the nature of the products you guys carry,
(03:36):
that kind of brings an extra question or concern in
my head. Tell us about, walk us through what happened.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
So we were actually at our sons down in Norman, Oklahoma,
and so we had a house sitter here at our house,
and around two in the morning, we.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Have two little corgies. Any little noise in the evening
or in the night, they want to let us know,
and they alerted her that there was something going on.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Fortunately, really was this, I mean is the house kind
of near the warehouse or physically.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Well that yeah, that's a funny part. Our commute is
a walk, so our company is walking distance from our home,
and we positioned it so we could see the business
and so could our animals. So best security around.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah, we our commuter is about three hundred yards every
day to work. Yeah, so our our sitter woke up
and was able to call the fire department and get things,
get things started.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
So we met with our local fire department numerous times
just to let them understand the layout of our warehouse
and so they were completely aware of that when they arrived.
They also were aware that smokeless powder that we housed
there burns quickly, hot and quickly, but there's no danger
(05:06):
of explosion. So they understood that there was AMMO and
powder and all the components. So fortunately they reached dright
in and tried to put that out in a safe
manner for themselves as well.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
And obviously I've had a house fire in my family
and even when they get the fire put out, they're
spraying water everywhere. I mean, it's they're causing damage to
stop the damage, I mean to some degree, right.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Right, right, Yeah, so that you know, they did a
great job trying to protect property. And I don't know
how many people are here in Cali County, but every
fire department in Cali County was here fighting fighting that fire.
And we know a lot of those people, and so
you know, they were here fighting for us, and they
(06:00):
did everything it could to to save what they could,
and and uh, you know, from the point of going
into our offices and trying to retrieve the servers and
protect our data and and you know, Lord knows we
have all these mouths on the wall, and so you
know they they were doing they were doing everything that
(06:21):
they could to save save what they could at the business.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
So people are going, Okay, a fire at an ammunition
reloading warehouse, but I mean I know it, but I'm
kind of also curious like it. So there weren't explosions happening.
It just burned, is that right?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
I think a common misconception is, you know, we especially
our age, you know, we all grew up watching the
old Western movies.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And you get.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Somebody out there and they're running powder along the ground
into a building and and a keg and then boom,
it blows the building up, but spoke with power is
not an explosive hazard in the ways that we store it.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
At this point, what was the extent of the damage.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Are the warehouse itself and all our inventory is a
complete loss A portion of our office is they're calling
it a complete loss just due to the smoke damage
and water from preventing the fire from being there. So yeah,
there is no inventory left.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Then whatsoever?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Do you have an idea of the amount of inventory
burned up? Like, you know, is it I mean, just
for the audience, is it like a certain number of
rounds or poundage of of kegs.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Or something like?
Speaker 6 (07:47):
I mean, you know, that's funny that you mentioned that,
because we've actually been trying to go through and get
that in our mind. And you know, we we probably
had well over a million rounds of ammunition. The amount
of powder that we had, you know, we're guessing somewhere
around thirty pounds somewhere around there, but we've not actually
(08:10):
put a pencil to that to figure out those exact
numbers yet.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
And primers we probably had five six million primers somewhere
around there.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Okay, so total loss. I guess where are you guys
at as a business? What have you heard from customers?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
It is crazy the outpouring of love from the community
as a whole, just you know, we're here for you.
What can we do for you? How can we help?
It's amazing, it really is. Yeah, it makes you see
the value of this larger family.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's something in our industry, in
the shooting community. Of the brands that people use, they're very,
very loyal to the places they shop, they're very, very
loyal to I mean, if somebody grew up, you know,
it's like we're a Remington family. You know, we shoot Remington, right,
(09:16):
So it's it's not just some some you know, product
that they don't think about. So at this point, how
can people help and support you guys?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Yeah, you know, it's it's interesting you talk about community
because the you look at some of the ammunition that's
pay ab out there, and you've got federal ammunition that's
sporting Sierra bullets or Barn bullets. This industry as a whole,
we know and we understand with the industry that we're
in that we all support each other no matter what,
(09:52):
and we we have had suppliers reach out to us
and say, hey, how can we help you. We've had
a petitor reach out to us and say how can
we help you? You know, which is which is amazing
in itself, but but as a shooting sports community Second
Amendment foundation, you know, we're we're all here and we're
(10:14):
all supporting each other. And that's that's the love and
and motivation that we've felt from everybody in our industry
is that you know this, this is you know, we
may be one small piece of the pie, but we're
an interpril cog in the community and that you know,
we're going to We're going to find a way and
(10:36):
and they're you know, we've been offered so much help
to find that way back to getting operational and uh,
and we're we're not quitters. You know, you have these
moments of feeling a little bit sorry for yourself and
and then you know, then you get these kind of
motivational words from from a customer that may have been
(10:59):
a customer for twenty years. For us, it's like, you know, hey,
you're my go to I believe in you, and and
it just those kind of things are the things that
motivate us to keep moving forward and and and you know,
we want to say one step forward, two steps back,
but really since the fire, it's been two step forward,
(11:20):
one step back. And you know we're not knocking down
the barriers as they come our way.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah, well, that's good to hear having been through. I
live down here in hurricane territory and been through some
of that, and I mean, frankly, I mean I lived
in New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina came through.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
So you know, when you have.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
That level of devastation and the house is gone, and
there are those moments, Brian, where you're gone, how in
the world are we going to like come out on
the other side of this? But you got to work
through all the bull crap. You got to work through
the insurance stuff and the construction stuff and the demolition
stuff and in your case, restocking and whatever it may be, right,
(12:06):
But I mean, those memories will they'll always be there,
but it just fades out and you just move on
and then it's all of a sudden, you know, it's
like it's four years later, there's a new warehouse. There's
you're up and running, You're you're cranking, you're you're selling
stuff and you go, man, that was crazy, but come
out on the other side of.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
It, right, yeah, yeah, And that's kind of the deal.
It's all about things, and you when you're at this point,
you realize it's not the things, it's the heart of
the Powder Valley team and that pulls you through and
it's and it's our community support and that those aren't things.
(12:45):
And that's that's what we need to keep remembering.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
How can people if they're listening to this, is there
something that they can do to help? I mean they
want to purchase or maybe like gift cards or I
don't know how you guys are working that right now?
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Yeah, you know, the the biggest thing is you know,
offering prayers for our family, prayers for our staff, uplifting
motivational things that you know they can send down the
line to offer words of encouragement, you know. And also
keeping in mind, you know, we are we are more
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be wonderful. We also have gift cards, you know, but
but anything, you know, we know that the community is
thinking about us. We're thinking about the community, and uh,
you know, we're we're pushing to move forward.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Well, the good thing is reloaders and shooters. They're always
needing more stuff. They're gonna shoot it up, They're going
to keep loading. And I mean, really you think about reloading.
I feel like it is having a moment in the
last couple of years. It's it's just hot these days,
even even guys without gray hair or reloading, which is
a good thing.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yes, it is a good thing. They used to joke
that that portion of our industry was aging, and I
think that downtime with COVID let some of those younger
people see that, hey, this is this is a good thing.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Oh yeah, and you've got the movement of of of
the long range shooting, NRL hunting all that, and these
are these these young guys who are either perhaps ve's
perhaps have just gotten into it and this is like
their new cool sport. And to do that and keep up.
You know, when you're loading the six gt or something
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Speaker 11 (17:31):
All right, everybody ted NuGen here celebrated with Tom Gresham
thirty years of gun talk. Thank you, Tom, congratulations and
salute game small miss Small Forever. We are gun talk
blood brothers. Carry on, Tom, all right.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I didn't know if I want to talk about this today.
Happened last night, Yeah, I'm going to it. How was
that a local event? Fundraiser for our local gun club.
Good event, good turnout, And like a lot of theseier
they're auctioning off guns or raffling off guns and all.
And we had a one of the guys who's no
officer of the club, has this gun and he's walking
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around the room, and the people at my table are going, whoa, whoa,
it's a handgun, actions closed, and he's pointing it everywhere.
He's got his finger on the trigger. He's pointed it
everywhere all over the room. This goes on for a
while while he's talking into a microphone and all, and
(18:34):
and nobody else is doing anything. So finally I just
stand up and walk over as he's walking around the
room and get right up behind him, standing there right
behind him, and lean int. My mouth is right next
to his ear while he's going through his spiel, and
I said, you need to stop pointing that gun at people.
(18:56):
He said, well, yeah, I may have flagged a few people.
I said, no, you've pointed that gun at everybody in
the room. He said, well, at least I wasn't preferential.
In other words, I didn't leave out anybody. I pointed
it to everybody, and finally he opened the action of
the gun. He said, well that's better. I said, well, yeah, okay,
(19:20):
I got to talk with people who run the club.
They're going to address that, have different protocol and work
on that. I didn't want.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
To have to be the guy who did that.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I didn't want to call him out, like yell out
him in front of everybody. I try not to be rude,
to try not to, but after a while I couldn't
sit there anymore and just walked up right behind him
and leaned in where only he could hear me. But
I made real sure he could hear me. If I
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hadn't gotten some kind of positive reaction from him in
terms of opening the action of the gun. I guess
they would have had to go to a different level.
We would have had to do something else. I don't
know what that would have been. I passed it along
only for this, and this has been being cleaned up.
(20:23):
People who run the club are on top of it,
and they're working on it. Don't be afraid to say something.
Some friends of mine, actually, some people who were at
the table last night, we were in a casillo carry
class where the instructor was pointing his gun at people
in the class. Turns out it was this carry gun.
(20:45):
Turns out it was loaded, and they spoke up in
the middle of the class said hey, hey, hey, you
point your gun. He said, well, so it's unloaded. Well
number one doesn't matter. Number two turns that wasn't. We
are all range safety officers, We are all responsible for
(21:11):
safety with guns, even guns we're not handling. As a result,
we all have to have the courage.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
To speak up.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
You don't have to be rude, you don't have to
be nasty, you don't have to be loud unless it's
called for. If it is, it is. But I kind
of been kicking myself for waiting so long last night
I should have done it earlier, should have done it sooner.
I guess I'm just passing it along to say, look,
be aware, be alert, and don't be shy about being
(21:46):
the range safety officer wherever you are, wherever somebody is
handling a gun. Hey, what's that muscle? Hey, get your
finger off the trigger. And if you get a pushback
like oh, it's not a big deal. At that point,
you probably have to take it up a notch to
make your point. And if none of that works, then
(22:08):
just leave. Make sure you're not in the same place.
I'm sorry, but you know what, we're all responsible for
safety for everybody. Okay, okay, okay, yes, you're right. Jim
corrected me. It's CQB, not QCB. CQB for close quarters battle.
I got it wrong twice.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Also, I see it looks like they have identified the
shooter murderer in Michigan. I will not be mentioning his
name because I don't want him to have the infamy
that he desires. I don't want him to be famous.
I don't want him to be known for killing people.
A lot of these folks, that's what they want. They
(22:52):
want to go out in the blaze of glory, and look,
I know I can't do anything about him, he's dead,
But by not mentioning his name, we can stop encouraging
the follow ons, the copycats. At least that's my take.
They're gonna have a lot more information about him, about
why did he do it, which side is he on,
(23:17):
what we'res motivations you heard me say before. That's for
other people to talk about, because that, for me falls
into the category of I don't care, don't care, crazy person,
mad person, leftist, rightist, whatever, just don't care. The only
(23:40):
thing I care about is how can I increase the
odds of surviving? How can I protect myself and my family?
What do I need to carry? What skills do I
need to take care of the situation if and when
it actually happens. The rest of it is for somebody else.
That's for society, that's for online chatter, and you guys
just go have fun, to get mad at each other
(24:01):
and do that thing that you do. I'm more practical.
I'm living in the real world of right now. What
can I do to make myself safer? Not just carrying
a gun, carrying a tourniquet, carrying a medical kit.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Being able to stop the bleed.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
People bleed out and you could save them if they
don't bleed out, if help gets there in five minutes.
But they blowed out in three and you could have
stopped with a tourniquet. Why aren't you carrying a tourniquet? Really,
let's go talk to Scott. He's online one calling out
Missouri Hell Scott.
Speaker 12 (24:34):
Hey, Tom, A couple of questions. What is your opinion?
I don't think I've ever heard you talk about this,
but like style of scope rings and laughing and stuff
like Teddy. I mean, well, the reason I'm asking is
I've got a new twenty two rifle Hammerley one, and
(24:59):
I'm trying to get it set up up as best
I can. And I've been reading something about laughing rings
and steel rings versus living them rings and kind of
one of your opinion.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
You're you've gone beyond my abilities. I am not a
target shooter, and when you're shooting hammerly, you're you're a
target shooter. And I don't lap rings, scope rings. I
don't do that. And maybe it helps and maybe it
gives you that extra tenth m A. I don't know,
it's just not my world, and I wish I could
(25:33):
help you with it, but I just don't know. I mean,
I know about it, but I don't do that. Is
there something else I might help with?
Speaker 12 (25:40):
No, I just that Hammerly. It's a it's a fine
little rough. It's got the oh yeah, the barrel that
pops off with the new one that's got the you
switch between twenty two mag and twenty two barrel and
I've got both of them and they're really nice.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Oh yeah, got they've been making Olympic Olympic gre rifles
for decades, so yeah. And handguns that the Hamley handguns
are some of the finest in the world.
Speaker 12 (26:08):
Okay, that's what I wanted to I appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
All right.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Sorry, I couldn't help you with that when it was
just beyond my ability, and I appreciate the call. If
you've got some thoughts on that, it's something you could offer.
On lapping scope rings, there's you know what, there are
YouTube videos for that, of course, there are YouTube videos
for everything. Uh let me, yeah, Jim says, we'll explain it.
Lapping scope rings is basically putting a if you have
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one inch scope rings made for a one inch scope
one inch diameter tube. Then you get one inch diameter
rod and you put it in those rings, and you
put a lapping compound a mild a brace on it,
and you run this rod back and forth to smooth
everything out and trying. What you're trying to do is
(26:53):
make sure there's no torque that'd be the right term. Basically,
that the rings line up correctly and the scope lays
in there, there's no excess pressure or stress put on
the scope tube itself. So you do this lapping, and
you can buy a scope lapping or scope ring lapping
(27:14):
kit with the rod and the bracelet and the whole deal.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
For me, look, if I'm going.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
To shoot a deer at two hundred and three hundred yards,
scope lapping is not going to make any difference at all.
Scope ring lapping, it's just not you know, if you're
going to be shooting something at a thousand yards, yep,
maybe it's important. Or if you're going to be shooting
at twenty two at fifty one hundred yards and you're
that last tenth of an inch or less than that
(27:44):
is what you're looking for, maybe it makes a difference.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Not my world, not the thing.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I do access having a conversation with a friend this morning,
said you know, I personally and that this is going
to get crosswise with a lot of people out there
who say, oh, you just don't know. Well, maybe it's
I don't know, and maybe it's that I don't care.
I'm not going to use dialing turrets on hunting scope.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Oh Tom, you're so out of it.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, okay, I've lost one elk because of dialing turrets,
because they spun as I was carrying the rifle. The
zero stop didn't work, and when it came time to shoot,
scope was so far off. I missed an ELK. If
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I'm only going to shoot to four hundred yards and
that's my personal limit, I don't need to dial the scope.
I know where it shoots. Up to three hundred yards.
I'm going to hold right where I want to shoot him,
just hold dead on And at four hundred yards, I
still hold on hair, just inside the back line with
(28:56):
my particular bullet and cartridge and velocity and everything else.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Beyond four hundred yards, I get closer. Now.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
If you want to choose something at seven nine hundred yards,
you got a dial, do your thing.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Have fun. It's not for me. I think for the
kind of hunting I do.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Or I'm carrying that rifle all over the mountain and
I'm carrying a backpack and it's rubbing up against stuff.
I don't want turrets that can rub up against things
and move. Having been burned badly on that one time,
I'm not going back there. And yes, that certainly labels
(29:39):
me as an old folge guy who doesn't understand blah
blah blah blah. God it understand it. But guess what,
I still get my deer, I still get my critters,
just my thing. You can disagree with me, and you're
free to. We got a phone number for that eight
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Speaker 14 (32:29):
SEE i had a really good day with My Henry
Lever action twenty. TWO i love that little. Gun and
WHEN i got done, SHOOTING i decided to send in
a picture to my brother down In, california where we
kind of go back and forth shooting. Intense we were
about AND i covered up the bullseye with a quarter
(32:51):
and there was one shot outside the quarter and he
sent me back a message and, says, hey you missed the.
QUARTER i, Okay, BACK i sent him a picture of
the target without the quarter on, it fourteen rounds behind
the quarter and one just outside the. Quarter and he, says,
(33:13):
okay you're just showing. Off, HEASE i couldn't hit the
broad side of a barn IF i was standing in.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It, oh, well you know what it, is showing, Off
and that's, okay because that's what we. Do we have
fun doing. That so all, Right so what was the?
Range how far was the?
Speaker 14 (33:25):
Target, okay it's fifty, yards.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Really fifty, yards whether it's twenty two lever actions scope
or iron sights.
Speaker 12 (33:34):
Scope, okay.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So that's some good. Shooting.
Speaker 14 (33:39):
Man IF i have used that to compete with my,
granddaughter she has better eyes THAN i.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Got, well, yeah of, course that's kind of the definition
of granddaughter and. Grandson you, know they're that much younger
and they have these eyes that we can only barely.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Remember.
Speaker 14 (33:51):
Yeah but, yeah my, brother we've been shooting against each
other since we were about ten years. Old is he's
a year older than, me and we used to shoot
squirrels all the time and. Rabbits but he's lost his.
Edge in, FACT i don't think he ever had a.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Edge that sounds like brother, talking you.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
KNOW i really liked the idea of this long distance
back and forth with your brother or a buddy or.
Somebody they send them a picture of target and then
they send something back and he, said, oh, yeah well
what about? This and that's just it's not exactly like
going to the range and shooting. Together but it's kind
of like, that isn't.
Speaker 14 (34:33):
It, yeah five hundred miles, apart BUT i can still
raise him on.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
It there you, GO i like. IT i like, it,
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Speaker 12 (34:42):
Action it is so.
Speaker 14 (34:44):
Much fun to shoot. It it's the most Fun i've
had shooting SINCE i was, young AND i had my
old Both action twenty two THAT i used to shoot
all the. TIME i still have that, one but The
henry's so much more fun to.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Shoot let me.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Ask, you Because i'm sure you've had this experience when
you hand a lever action to somebody and they shoot,
it don't they just universally start.
Speaker 12 (35:08):
Smiling yep every.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Time, yeah it's the craziest. Thing it's, Like, wow that's really.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Fun and a lot of people just never even think
about getting a lever action, rifle and then you get,
one you, go why DIDN'T i do?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
This? Years.
Speaker 14 (35:25):
Ago, YEAH i handed a couple of my friends AND
i let them shoot, it AND i, says, now look
see you're a.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Cowboy, yeah that's right there you. Go all, right great,
range reports, sir AND i love the idea of the
back and forth with your.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Brother that is.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Terrific you, know we talk about the forty five seventy
lever actions and they're great and, fun but that's a
fair amount of, recoil and then it was a little.
EXPENSIVE a twenty two rim fire lever action it's so much.
Fun and, yeah The magnums are fun. Too i've got
to shot. Those used to have the Was winchester ninety
(36:01):
four to twenty two m which was their lever The
magnum version of their lever. Action their ninety four to
twenty two was really. Good and of Course marlon has
had theirs hoping That ruger brings out Their marlin and
a twenty two Rim fire. Soon that would be. TERRIFIC
i would be one of the first in line to get.
That that would be just so much. Fun but of
(36:23):
Course henry has lots of, them AND i think who
Else savage has? Them other people HAVE, rossi others have
Lever action twenty two's now. Inexpensive first of, all they're generally,
speaking the rifles are fairly. Inexpensive, obviously THE amo is
very inexpensive and just. Fun and if you get one
that has a threaded, barrel and that may not Be
(36:45):
John wayne, exactly but now you put a suppressure on.
It you got this little bit skinny suppressures for twenty
twos and they kind of look kind of cool and
they're really, quiet especially if you find some SUBSONIC. Ammo
and now you're having just more fun than you can. Imagine,
OH i was out of the range yesterday FOR i
was doing my, thing chasing that problematic eight three thirty
(37:08):
eight out.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Six there was a guy.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
SHOOTING i was waiting for him to finish SO i could,
Shoot AND i, said, well calorie shooting. There he, says
that's a SEVEN. Prc, so oh, yeah he had it
all fixed. Up he's getting ready for hunting. Season he
had a can on, it he, says, well and he's
using ear muffs hearing. Protection he, says, WELL i don't
really need hearing, protection BUT i wear it. ANYWAY i, said, oh,
(37:32):
yeah you, know when you got a supersonic round like,
that you still have the crack of the, bullet and that's.
Loud it's much quieter than it would be without the.
Suppressor and he said. Rightly so he, says you, KNOW
i want to hold on to all the HEARING i have,
Left AND i, thought, yeah that's pretty. Smart we, uh
(37:54):
just naturally not even noise anything. Else just as we get,
older you're going to lose some, hearing just like your
eye SIT's not the, same and you want to hold
on to everything you. Can you want to be able
to hear birds. Singing you want to be able to
hear your grandchildren laughing in the other. Room you want
to hear all that cool. Stuff and if you don't believe,
it talk to somebody who's lost the. Hearing they'll tell
you how important it. Is just a reminder about hearing.
(38:18):
PROTECTION i like the idea we talk about doubling up
wearing foam plugs as well as, earmuffs and that works really.
WELL i have a whole bunch of ear, muffs shooting.
Muffs but you know what you might want to do
is go buy one of those big, bags like a
hundred phone, plugs and then take some small ziplock bags
(38:39):
and put like four or six of these ear plugs
in each, one and leave one in each of the
gluck compartments of your, Vehicles leave one in your shooting,
bag leave one in your shooting, coat leave a bag
anywhere you might need or find, it and, say, oh,
YEAH i have some ear. Plugs i'll put those in
in case everybody forgot. Theirs you also have loaners that
(39:00):
would be kind of. You don't have you call me right.
Now you can get on the after show because we're
going to be practicing moose call like during an after.
Show you definitely do not want to miss. That let's
go talk To george on. Too He's Industo. California where
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the range are for? It Hey, george what you're?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Shooting?
Speaker 15 (39:24):
HEY i have A ruger ten twenty. TWO i didn't
even know they made him in starting fiber, barrels but
that easily became one of my most favorite guns to. Shoot,
now why is? That it's just it's cheap and it's super,
light AND i put a red don on, it and
it's really, accurate AND i just have a blast at the.
(39:45):
Range especially because it's, CHEAP i don't have to spend
a ton of.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Money and they're. Accurate they're stupid, accurate aren't?
Speaker 14 (39:51):
They very?
Speaker 15 (39:53):
Accurate and super? LIGHT i can't WHEN i WHEN i
held it in my hand WHEN i first found WHEN
i first found, IT i was pleasant surprised BECAUSE i
was holding on to the other. Ones i'm, like, Dang
and it's. Perfect SO i can teach my nephew how
to shoot because he's kind of a smaller. Guy that's
perfect wait for.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Him do you have some of the Extra of course
you're In, california so you can't HAVE i guess you
can't have the twenty five round, mags can?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
You?
Speaker 15 (40:18):
No AND i can't have a suppressor, either WHICH i
really WISH i could because they have that thread and. Barrel.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Ah, yeah, well one of these days we're gonna we'll
keep working on we might be able to get that.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Fixed you know.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
What in the, meantime let me throw out a, suggestion
if you don't already, belong join The California rifle And Pistol.
Association that's the group that's working to get these restrictions
taken off In. California so it's a really good group
and they'll also keep informed on what's going. On, hey
great range of part The ruger ten twenty. Two it's
one of those THAT i just, think, like if you're
(40:51):
really into, guns everybody out to have one of. THOSE
i MEAN i have, three maybe. Three there may be
more than that hiding in the back of the.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
SAFE i don't.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
KNOW i got a couple of that were customized By
Clark Custom guns back when they first started making The
accurize ten twenty twos for anybody else that's doing, Them
and these are one inch guns at one hundred. Yards
if you can find a no win, situation it's. Crazy and,
now of course you can buy ten twenty twos that
shoot like, that and you can buy knockoff ten twenty
(41:19):
twos that are actually quite a bit more expensive that
are crazy. Accurate but, honestly if you don't have A
ruger ten twenty, two if you want to do yourself a,
favor it's, Like, okay we're getting Toward christmas is coming
before you know.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
It maybe put that on your. List you know, what
the best.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Way to make sure you get what you want For
christmases buy it for, yourself because sometimes the hinting works
and sometimes it doesn't. Work and if you really and
truly want a specific thing it's, like not something that's,
close not something that's almost as, good but the real
(41:59):
thing exactly the way you want. It if you want it
with a carbon fire or, barrel if you want it
with this particular, stock if you want it with that
particular barrel, length whatever it, is you probably ought to
get it for yourself and just put a note in
there say it's From.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Santa whatever works for. You.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
OKAY i only know this from, experience because there was
a come ALONG i, Wanted, YEAH i didn't get the right.
One there was a fishing landing NED i, Wanted, YEAH
i didn't get the right. One so my wife AND
i have just kind of come up with a plan
which she, says get it for. Yourself that way you'll
get the right. One, yep that's our plan that works for.
(42:34):
Us so there you. Go in the, meantime let's return
to this one subject of being your own range. Officer
everybody has to be their own range, officer eating macon
call cease fire and a range for a safety, issue
and you can speak up if somebody is not handling
a gun safely around, you and also be willing and
(42:55):
able and frankly eager to vacate the. Premises if you
see somebody doing something stupid or unsafe for the, gun
get a word or two from. You doesn't get the
response you, need get, up get out the, door and,
leave just as simple as. That in the, meantime let
me suggest you go out and do more. Shooting more
(43:15):
shooting means better, shooting generally, speaking take a, class get
out there and recommit with carrying all the. Time the
bad guys are. There they show up when you're least.
Expected that's their, plan and, sometimes like, today they show
up they want to kill everybody. There you may be
the one that saves. Lives make that commitment carry all the.
(43:36):
Time it's that.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
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