Hunting With New Super Cartridge; Muzzle Brake Or Suppressor?; More Powerful AR-15s: 01.12.25 Hour 2
January 12, 2025 • 43 mins
In This Hour:
-- Ryan Gresham reports on his recent elk hunt with the new Federal 7mm Backcountry cartridge.
-- While muzzle brakes reduce recoil, so do suppressors, with the added benefit of being quieter.
-- The Ruger SFAR puts more power into the AR-15 size rifle.
Gun Talk 01.12.25 Hour 2
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-- Ryan Gresham reports on his recent elk hunt with the new Federal 7mm Backcountry cartridge.
-- While muzzle brakes reduce recoil, so do suppressors, with the added benefit of being quieter.
-- The Ruger SFAR puts more power into the AR-15 size rifle.
Gun Talk 01.12.25 Hour 2
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hey, welcome back. I'm Tom Gresham. This this gun Talk.
If you want to join this, it's pretty easy. Just
give me a call. Here's my name, Tom Talk Gun.
How's that for easy? Tom Talk Gun, Give me a holler.
We'll talk about well, guess what guns. That's what we
do around there. We just talking about this brand new
rifle cartridge that was introduced by Federal called the seven
(00:36):
millimeter Backcountry.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's new technology.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It uses a steel alloy case that can handle higher pressures. Typically,
the highest pressure we have in brass cases is sixty
five thousand psi, and this one goes to eighty thousand psi.
The idea is to not necessarily get more velocity, but
hold on to that high velocity. As you shorten the
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barrel of your hunting rifle. A lot of people are
going to shorter barrels. Lighter rifles going to shorter barrel
so we can put a suppressure on it whatever. But
they don't want to keep giving up the velocity and
so that's what this does. It's new technology, it's brand new,
and I think it's probably the start of things to come. Well,
we're fortunate enough a lot of times we get things
in advance, we get to go out and shoot them.
(01:23):
I did a little video on this cartridge got a
month ago, and so you can go look at that
on our website gun talk dot com or gun talk
dot Tv, and you can look at of course on YouTube.
But more than that, we actually just got a chance
to go out and take it hunting.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well I didn't, but our crew did.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Joining me right now is Ryan Gresher from rains Ready
Studios and gun Talk Media, who just returned from an
epic hunting trip to New Mexico. Ryan, you know, you
guys are pretty crazy. Was the way you guys went
out there and back.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
You do crazy stuff when you're a hunter, that's for sure, all.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Right, So explain to people. I guess what you did.
And the timeline on it was fascinating.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Well, yes, we started talking to Federal about this a
couple of months ago, and really we didn't know what
exactly this new product was going to be. It started
out as hey, we have something big new coming and
we go neat, okay, well, let us know when you
can let us know. And then we got worded, hey,
this is what's coming this seven milimeters back country, and
(02:32):
we got you know, it's always a chicken egg thing
with a new cartridge, right, So we got like a
box in and this is all just ramping up for
production for them. So I think we got a box
of the one hundred and sixty eight grain Barns bullets
in and we had no gun and so we're like, yeah,
it looks like Ammo meat. And then we got Christiansen
(02:55):
sent us a rifle, and then we got we kept
kind of beg borrowed and pleaded, you know, hey, can
you guys send us some more Ammo? Okay, let me
see what I can get. I think we got one
hundred and fifty five grain terminal ascent, one hundred and
seventy grain terminal ascent, and we were we were I
think they were literally scrounging the factory to try to
find a box here, box there. Because when companies introduced
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these new products, they're not necessarily stamping out thousands of
rounds a day. I mean, they announced it and they're
still kind of ramping up the real production of it.
So we got that in and we liked the way, honestly,
we liked the way all of them shot, but the
one hundred and seventy grain terminal ascent. I'd heard great
things about the terminal ascent I personally had not used
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it in a real world application for hunting. So we thought,
I mean, we can, we can shoot groups into paper
and it looks kind of nice, and we're chronoling it
and guess what out of a twenty inch barrel, that
one hundred and seventy grain bullet was going About three
thousand eighty was what we were averaging, so nearly thirty
(04:03):
one hundred fet per second, which is pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, especially out of a twenty inch barrel. You'd expect
that out of twenty six inch barrel maybe, but man,
that's something.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
So we said, you know what we gotta do. We
have to go any excuse to go hunting.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I mean, you have to go hunting.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah, I know. So we said, let's put let's use
this in real life. And it was really last minute.
I mean we said, well, I mean back country one
hundred and seventy grade, it's essentially a seven magnum cartridge.
We gotta do something big, we gotta go out west,
and so we quickly found a place that we could
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do a cow elk hunt, because actually in January the
bull elk hunts were done and a most everybody was done,
I mean, all the outfitters at this point in the
season are kind of done. But we found a guy
to help us out, and we drove sixteen hours on
Monday to New Mexico and Tuesday we shot three elk
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and Wednesday we drove sixteen hours back.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
With a pickup truck full of elk. Yes, absolutely all right,
So you sent me the video.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Are you and kJ are lined up? Each of you
have your rife while you're shooting the seven back country
he's shooting. I guess what it's three hundred mag.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Three hundred win mag, the old classic elk killer, right,
And that's the way.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
This is the way.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
The outfitter said, you know how he likes and every
outfitter is different, and they every place is different and
kind of what type of stuff you run into, and
so he said, probably we'll get into a group of them.
And what he likes to do is one shot from
one shooter and then wait to see how that goes.
And then one, you know, one shot from the other shooter.
(05:54):
And so that way we can avoid shooting into this
herd and at risk of shooting more. Elkan, you intended
to shoot when you get confusing, So that's exactly what
we do. We bring. We hiked up this this hill
because we saw they were kind of up top of
this hill off in the distance. Since we hiked closer,
we were about four hundred yards out, and we knew
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what our dope was going to be. And actually I
was using a brand new scope that is a new
Winchester Optics line. So if anybody's interested, it's a Winchester
Optics is is a new thing. I think it's sort
of in partnership with maybe it's optics Planet and bringing
(06:40):
in these optics. And so, I mean, I knew what
the dope was four hundred yards. Okay, let's go to
six m A and I shot bull or not bull?
Cow down and then kJ shot and so it's two
shots too, Elk down.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It was seven seconds between your two shots.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You shot, and I hear the guy say, you know,
help down our cow down, and he says, go ahead, kJ.
And then he was already on describe your setup with
the rest you're using.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
That was pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Yeah, So we both had we both had like bipods
or tripods. I had one of those bog bog tripods
with like the hog saddle and put that on the
front of the gun like you would kind of a
traditional rest. But then we had a tripod in the back.
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And what you do is you wrap your arm around
the leg of the tripod in the rear and like
you would shoot from a bench where you you don't
have any hand out in the front of the gun,
and your your forward hand comes back behind the butt,
and so you grab the leg of the tripod and
the and the butt of the gun and now you
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have a very very steady platform to shoot from. And
so I shoot from the left shoulder because I'm left
eye dominant. So I was on one leg of the tripod.
kJ was on the other leg of the tripod on
the other side, and we were just both sitting there
with crosshairs on elk and he said, whenever you're ready,
and I broke the shot. He said, she's down, Go ahead, kJ,
(08:17):
whenever you're ready, And about when he finished that sentence,
kJ broke the shot and elk down. So, I mean
it was a really efficient way to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Two shots, two elk, and then your childhood buddy Rob
is actually out with another guide and he got an elk.
Same was the same morning.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yeah, same morning. So yeah, it was a it was
a pretty efficient hunt.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It really was. So.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I mean you didn't get to you know, the one
regret you have as well, I didn't get to shoot
my gun a lot, but it seemed to work.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah. The elk was pretty impressed by it. It was
it was about a five hundred pound cow elk. I
mean it was a big cow elk. And she thought
that the seventy grade terminal ascent was really impressive.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I bet so.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So question for you, what's your impression shooting it? Because
people are going to say, well, how's the recoil house
to this house?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Of that? It's kind of like shooting in the other gun,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Yeah, I mean yeah, this is not like I mean,
we have guns that are similar, right, A certain calibers
that are similar. So yeah, I mean I was mine
was suppressed and it was no big deal. kJ Honestly,
he did a lot more of the prep for this
hunt because I had some travel and other things going on.
So he shot this gun and this load a lot
(09:39):
more than I did. And he said, without the suppressor,
you know, you're shooting the magnum. But of course the
suppressor helps reduce recoil as well as the sound signature.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And of course that's a lot of what this new
characters is about is using a suppressor, using shorter barrels,
so you can have a suppressor or not have this
really really long thing out there.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So you really put all that to the test.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, I mean, we wanted to see what it does
in the real world, and it worked. I really liked it.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Okay, I'll tell you what. I want to take a break, Rye.
When we come back. You just announced some new classes
at range Ready Studios. We want to talk about that
and a few of the other things you do in there.
We're talking with Ryan Gresham. If you want to go
take a look ahead of time range Ready Studios dot Com.
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We'll be right back.
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All right back with you.
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I'm running over to range Ready Studios dot Com myself.
We're talking with Ryan Gresham, of course, he's the head
guy over there and all the things that have the
gun top Arrange rate stuios. They're doing classes there and experiences,
and Ryan, you made up kind of this concept of
experiences where people can go in and kind of have
the same kind of experience as a gun writer does
when people are introducing our gun companies or optics companies
(13:17):
introducing new products exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah. So we have training courses and people ask us
all the time. We have defensive pistol and defensive car
being those types of things. But one of the things
we're really known for are these experience classes. And the
idea is we work with companies within the gun world
and they are sponsors of these, so they'll provide the
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gun or the optic or whatever, and we create a
really cool experience and typically that comes with the price
of admission. Also you get to keep the gear you use,
including the gun and the optic and those types of things. So,
for instance, next month in February, we have the irons
to dots the Ruger ARXM experience using the new rugor
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RXm pistol using a vortex optic, and they're going to
be here for two days. Students are going to shoot
a lot with iron sights and then we're going to
add the red dot and we're going to shoot the
red dot on the pistol for a couple of days
or I'm sorry, I'm for the second day. And so
that's the type of thing we do. That one we launched,
(14:23):
it's sold out in a few days and we actually
have a waiting list on that. That's something people need
to know is that these classes do tend to sell
out quickly, but we do get that. We are able
to take a weight list, so you could sign up
for a different class, or if you want to get
added to the weight list, you can do that on
the website. Now, what we just launched is a really
(14:44):
special special experience. We've never done anything like this one before.
We partnered with Jacob Gray Firearms, and people might say,
I don't know who Jacob Great Great Firearms is, Well,
it's because they're very boutique, very special. They make very nice,
very high end nineteen eleven pistols and kind of specialize
(15:08):
in those twenty eleven those double stack nineteen elevens, and
so I mean these are these are kind of like
bucket list guns for people. I mean, there's a wait
list to buy these guns. And so we partnered with
the Jacob Gray and we're doing the Jacob Gray and
Trigicon experience. So Trigacon of course very nice optics. They're
(15:31):
going to have rmrs on these guns. We're going to
have Jacob Gray TWC nines and you included with the
price of admission you get to keep these. So we're
also all the AMO is going to be provided by
shell Tech, and shell Tech is kind of one of
the pioneers of this new AMMO that we're seeing. There
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is the two piece case stuff. It's very high end,
very accurate, and and it's lighter weight kind of so
it'll be funded put those things together with Jacob Gray
and Trigicon Sheltech. This is coming up at the end
of March, and it's it's pretty phenomenal. I mean, I'll
just I'll just go ahead and lay it out there
for you. I mean, the gun itself is a three
(16:13):
thousand dollars pistol. I mean a RMR at Trinchicon RMR
is a seven hundred dollars optic. And then you've got
all of the animal provided you've got two days of training,
and it's going to be less than what you think
is going to cost.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, I'm looking on the website right now, it's thirty
five hundred bucks. And you get holster and meg Meg
holster holders, and the training and lunch and coffee and
donuts in the morning and fabulous training, and you get
this stunning double stack nineteen eleven that is, And if
they'll go take a look at the website for Jacob Gray.
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He makes these in a way that's different. These are
not regular nineteen eleven. They look like a regular nineteen eleven,
but that's not the way they're made. They're made out
a billet aluminum and so they're a little bit lighter.
There are just a lot of things about them that
are different and very high end, as you say, very boutiquy.
This is gonna be one of the better values anybody's
(17:11):
ever had a chance.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
To get a hold of.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yeah, and we I'll be honest, We launched it this
week and the first people of doubt about these new
classes are the people who are on the range Ready
email list. And right now we only have six spots
left in this class.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, yeah, right about it.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, you're hearing it now. You better jump go
to range Readystudios dot com and sign up because there's
not gonna be a better chance for you to not
only get fabulous best you've ever had training, but also
walk away with probably the best handgun you've ever had
at the same time.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah, I mean this is this truly is a bucket
list type of experience and really a gun that's probably
for a lot of us, would be the nicest pistol
you've ever owned. We're gonna and we are going to
have obviously Chris Serena will be doing instructing, but we're
also going to have Mark Yackley there and if real follows,
you know, competitive shooting, the Yaklee family, the Yacke five.
(18:13):
Becky Acklee is Mark's wife, Mark's son just won the
world shoot. I mean, this is a family of shooters
who are so experienced and bring such knowledge, and so
you're going to get to train with Mark Yakley and
Chris Reno, which is just just extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Well, I remember interviewing the Acles up as Bianchy Cup,
but I said, well, how do you guys do it?
You got your whole family, You're traveling all around and said,
we'll we homeschool and all we do is we go
from Matt's to match to matt I mean, that's what
they do.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
This is a shooting.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Family at a level that people have not even familiar with,
that not even heard of before. So you have to
have Mark teaching as well as Chris. Oh my gosh,
that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, and I will say that I think we're going
to have I know we're going to have some folks
from Jacob Gray Pistols there. So that's kind of me.
You're you know, you get to train with the pistol,
you get to take this pistol home. People from the
company are going to be there to answer your questions
and work with you on stuff. So it's just it's
just a really unique experience. And that's why we call
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these experiences. They're not just classes.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
How do you come up with these?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well, you know, we've just been at this for so long.
I mean, you know, we work with all these different
companies over the years, and it's just something that we
kind of ran across. So we want to give our audience.
We want to give the public the same type of
experience that we have when we show up when a
company is launching a new product and really put together
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because a lot of times people ask, you know, what
should I buy?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
What should I get?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
And what's good? And I mean, this is the question
you get all the time on the radio show, right
and and so we're able to reach out to these
companies and say, hey, this is something that would be cool.
Would you be interested? And they are, I mean, and
we'll also be filming while we're there, so you'll better
or worse. You'll see, uh, just see how the sausage
is made a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
This is true.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You get to just say, oh, okay, that's how they
make the videos.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
And guess what.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
You'll also be on the videos too, which is kind
of a fun thing as well.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Yeah, there's possibility to end up in there.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, so if you're in the witness Protection program.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Let us know ahead of time exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Now, there you go. So where are you off to next?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I know, Las Vegas?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Oh goodness. Yeah. We got Shot Show leaving for Shot
Show in on six days and so lots of new
stuff coming out and it'll be fun. We'll be broadcasting
from Shot Show. You'll be doing the radio show from
a couple places, and we'll be posting videos across the
gun Talk YouTube and Facebook and all the other channels
(20:55):
that we post content on throughout the week. Not this
week but next week, Jim.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
So they'll be throughout that week. Now this coming with
the following week.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
If they're watching, you're gonna have videos interviewing people at
Shots Show about new products. You know, new guns, new Ammo,
new optics, knew everything. It so a little bit a
chance to see them and actually, you know, see you
a little hands on there. So there you go, Ryan,
I appreciate congratulations on the elk.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
By the way, thank you. You know we brought to
the butcher and the quarters and everything else. Wait out
at one hundred and seventy three pounds. I'm gonna fill
in the freezer.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You are, aren't you. That is a big cow elk.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
All right, well I will see you in about a
week in Vegas.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
All right, sounds good?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
All right, you take care. Hi, there you go. What
a story?
Speaker 11 (21:44):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Drive sixteen hours one day, shoot three out next day,
turn around and drive sixteen hours back. They ran out
of space and the coolers they brought and they just
had elk meat stuffed all throughout this the pickup, the
bed of the pick up, as he said, a good thing.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It was cold as we were driving back. So there
you go.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
All right, we're open lines. Now what are you shooting?
What are you buying? And what do you think about
a new rifle carts? Give me a call it Tom
talk gun. Hey did you see the Mark Zuckerberg at
Facebook has said they're going to get rid of their
(22:26):
fact checkers. I guess they got forty thousand people who
are basically sensors.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
They call them fact checkers. Their sensors.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
They block information or posts that they don't agree with,
or they don't like, or, as we're now finding out,
the ones that the US government tells them to block.
During COVID, during the Hunter Biden laptop, the government was
calling often like several times a day, to Facebook and say,
you got to block this account, you gott to block
this account, You got to shut these people down.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
They're saying things that we don't agree with.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So now you saying we're going to get rid of
forty thousand fact checkers and let the community notes work.
We're not gonna block post about anything that's legal. Really,
that's gonna be interesting to see, because of course they
block a lot of stuff about legal activities. When it
involves guns. You post things about you shooting or owning guns,
(23:22):
or collecting guns, or pictures of your guns on Facebook,
there's a pretty good chance you're gonna get blocked. They're
gonna shut it down or maybe even shut down your account.
That's gonna be fun to watch. Not that I expect
them to actually lift their restrictions on free speech about
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firearms where it's like even Elon Musk at X, you
still can't you can't advertise guns on X. Gun companies
can't advertise that it's a perfectly legal product. It's a
highly regulated product. All guns that are made by manufacturers
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that are sold in gun stores have to have the
oka of the FBI for their soul. I mean, unless
you got a background check done through your casio carry permit,
which sometimes happens in some states. Speaking of conceio carry,
we have a couple of bills introduced in Congress, one
of the Senate, one of the House, from national reciprocity.
That is, if you have a conceo carry permit in
(24:26):
your state, you would be able to carry in all states,
subject to whatever laws they have there. President Trump, incoming
President Trump has said he will sign this if it
passes Congress. What I don't know is one of the
odds because there are several several Republicans who probably will
(24:49):
pose it. We'll see see what happens there. Let's grab
line four. Brad's with us out of Missouri. You know, Brad,
we were talking about the two seventy Winchester, but I
think you got maybe another to take on that.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Yes, thanks for taking my call. I have a two
subdy Weatherby absolutely. I love the gun. My ten year
old his first shot with the two subny Weatherby was
a fifteen point buck. It does have a muscle break
which reduces the recoil to like a two forty three m.
I like the bold action that goes up to fifty
(25:21):
four degrees. I believe doesn't go all the way up
to the scope. But I think the two subny weatherb
is underrated. It's absolutely zero in that three hundred yards
only has three a half inch arc right. Really a
wonderful gun.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
The two seventy Weatherby. I used to have a single
shot Ruger number one in the two seventy Weatherby and
it was a lightning bolt. I mean it's so fast.
It's considerably faster than the two seventy Winchester. Here's the
thought for you. You've got that muscle break on there,
and you know how much louder a muscle break makes
your gun.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
So that's a pain. Have you considered putting a pressure
on there?
Speaker 12 (26:01):
No, I have not.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I think you would very much enjoy the shooting experience
of putting us a pressure on there. I'll get you
a lightweight suppressor, maybe like the banished thirty that silence
or central cells. I mean, it'll screw right on where
your Moza break screws on. Unscrew that one, screwed this
one on, and it will reduce the recoil the way
your Moza break does. But it also is going to
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reduce the sound so much it's amazing. I have gotten
to the point honestly, or I will not hunt with
a mosta break on my gun. If it has a break,
I will use it sometimes for developing loads and shoot
off the bench. But then I have to take the
moser break off before I go hunting. And then of
course you have to sit in again if you take
the motor break off. But I won't hunt with them
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because they're just too loud.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Yes, okay, I'll look into that. Thanks for the info.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Oh and by the way, you may know this already,
but a number of years ago with my dad we
wrote kind of the defending the book about Weatherby's and
about Roy Wetherby. So if you don't have it, if
you get a chance, you can go online and find
the book a title of Weatherby, the Man, the Gun
and the Legend, and you get some background on how
all these cartriges came about.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Okay, well, thank you for that, though I do run
back to send you Weatherby. It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
It is a good one. Thanks for the caller, appreciate that.
Let's grab Jerry out of Colorado. Hey, Jerry, you're on
gun Talk. What's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (27:29):
Well, Tom, I'm thinking about buying a Ruger sfar but
here in Colorado we've got this nonsense fifteen round magazine limit,
and so I've been looking for SR twenty five magazines
at fifteen round capacity, but all I find is five rounds,
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ten rounds, twenty rounds. You know, I can't find fifteen
round magazines. I've looked high and lowe. I was wondering
if you had any tips where I might work.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You know I don't, because I was going to say,
I'm sure you can find ten rounders. Those are out,
but I don't remember seeing any fifteen round magazines for that.
Speaker 12 (28:08):
Right, and I'm not having any luck yet. The m
one A takes fifteen round magazines that are available, but
I can't find any other three OA semi auto as
little where I can buy new fifteen round magazines anywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So well, as long as I got you here, let
me ask you, how do you like that rugor sfaar.
Speaker 12 (28:30):
Well, i'd like I'm thinking about buying one.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Oh well you don't have it? Okay?
Speaker 12 (28:37):
Well, yeah, because you know, my decisions somewhat depend upon
the magazine availability because of our bogus laws here in
this left wing state.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Well, it's only going to get worst partner because they're
what they're looking at doing now. Colorado will be maybe
the worst of the states figure because they are looking
at banning all semi automatic rifles, almost all semi automatic pistols,
anything that takes a tactable magazine and a lot of shotguns,
and that one is going through the legislature right now.
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In fact, in about twenty twenty five minutes. Here we'll
have all the information about that. If you keep listening,
we'll have that information for you.
Speaker 12 (29:16):
All right, we'll do, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I appreciate it. Yeah, that, thank you, sir. The ruber
Sfar is a smaller, lightweight, felweight semiauto on an AR pattern.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Really nice rifle. They shoot really well.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
They're not as heavy as some of the er ten
platforms out there. Something to take a look at if
you have one. I'd love to get your range report
on and see what you think about it. All right,
number here is It's easy tom talk gun. We'll be
right back.
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Speaker 3 (32:03):
Well, well, well, I didn't take very long.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I said, does anybody have the Ruger SFA r I'd
love to get a range report? And right off the
back it comes Kendall out of South Dakota with a
range report. Hey, Kendall, tell me about this rifle.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
I love it. I got it in three oh eighth
it's you's well under an inch. I was really surprised
all while at shot.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
So all right, what was the thinking about it? Why
did you get this in the first place?
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Uh? What is it? POV was making kind of the
same thing for years, but they were expensive.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Then.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Yeah, so then they Ruger came out with this and
I had to try one, and I don't know. It's
kind of like if the world goes sideways and you
can only grab one. That's the one I grabbed.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Was the one of the appeals of it that it's smaller.
It's not on the full sized AR ten platform. They
actually were able to get a three or eight into
a smaller platform.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah, I have a I have a couple of AR
tensas They've never felt right, you know, they feel blunky, yep,
and this feels just like a regular AR. But it's
three o eight, you know it's and I was really
surprised how well it shot. It shoots well under an inch. Yeah,
(33:22):
I love it. It's kind of my favorite rifle right now.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
No, kidd well, you know why not it get a
three oweight semi auto and a fairly lightweight ergonomic packaging.
If you're used to shooting ars, and a lot of
people are, then you just go ahead and get your
AR and a three h eight.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
So what do you do with that? So primarily just
a target gun? Or do you hunt with it?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Took it out deer honey, shot a deer with it
this year, perfect weight olt hunting. But I took my
three hundred WSM instead.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
But it would work for al County, wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
It I yeah, you know, it'd work just fine.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Of course, I'm thinking if you happen to live in
an area of the country where you got hogs, what
a great hog gun that would be.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
I just borrowed it to a friend of mine. It's
going to Texas right now to go shoot hogs.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Well, good to get to send it down there and
have a good little training. When it comes back, it'll
be a better gun for you.
Speaker 12 (34:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Well I got to work and he gets to play.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Well, that's a great ranger for it. I sure appreciate that. Kendall.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, the Ruger sfar is a very nice rifle. And look,
I have one, I guess, just one AR ten And
Kendle's right.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
It shoots really well. There's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
And I'm not going to name the name because I
don't want to put any shade or any manufacturer because
ar tens are typically bigger, heavier just because of the
size of them.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
And it shoots very well.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
But it's like a nine pound rifle in the sfar
is I remember, right, it's under seven pounds. Well, that's
really significant, and I just I like the idea of
a three to eight ar that comes in at the
same size as the two two three ar. I mean,
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it almost seems impossible. I don't really know how they
did that, but to his point, and yes, a two
two three will do most things for you. Two to
three or five five six I use them interchangeably, But
there's something different about a three h eight. It just
has more thump. And if you decide, okay, I want
to choose something at five hundred yards, yes, of course
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you could hit stuff with a five five six of
five hundred yards, but you're just gonna be carrying more
energy with a three to eight.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Do you need that?
Speaker 13 (35:50):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Who knows?
Speaker 7 (35:52):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
The good part of that is? For most of us,
need doesn't have anything to do with our choices about
buying guns or ambo or scopes or red dots or
any the rest of it. We get them because we
like them. And now I gotta tell you I've still
got this up on my computer screen. I'm looking at
the range Ready Studios class. I will admit I did
(36:16):
not know about Jacob Gray Firearms. I did not know
about their double stack nineteen eleven's. And once I went
to the website and really looked through it, what these
guys are different? There and there are other high end
as we know, other high end double stack nineteen elevens
out there, you know the ones I'm talking about. These
(36:37):
are made differently. I would really like to shoot worth these.
I'm now trying to figure out, Okay, what can I sell?
Can I sell a couple of three guns? And can
I get down to this class in March at range
Ready Studios and maybe come away with one of these
pistols and what the good part of it is? To
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my other point, I don't need another pistol. I have
more than two right now. But as I say, needs
not ready to factor. The real factor is what can
I get rid of to get this? And maybe Okay,
it's just kind of part of my overall pattern or
(37:22):
I plan right now, which is people say, well, are
you getting rid of guns as you you know, you
get older and all that say, yeah, I am. But
all that means is I'm getting rid of some guns
and buying some other guns. Yes, I'm getting rid of
some guns. It does to mean I'm having fewer guns,
although I'm trying to get there. I'm trying to do
the like two for one or three for one deal
where you can sell or trade two or three and
(37:43):
get one that's a little nicer, get a little bit
more room with safe. Speaking of safes, do you have
a good gun safe that is a fireproof. We're watching
these fires go through California, and look, when a fire
like that hits your house and it burns it to
the ground, you're not going to save any of the
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guns in the safety anyway. When it's so hot that
it's melting the cylinders out of car engines and you
got puddles of illuminum on the ground, you're not.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
But I will say this, make sure you have good insurance. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I know about the insurance issues, but just make sure
you have it. The other thing is make sure you
have documented what you own. Take pictures, take videos, get
serial numbers, and keep that stuff somewhere that's not in
your house, because if your list of everything you own
burns up with your house, you don't have the list anymore. Okay,
(38:42):
put it online, put it in the cloud, give it
to somebody, put it in a safe deposit box somewhere.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
So think about this stuff ahead of tide.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Walk through your house rolling video with your phone, shoot
every wall and open every cabinet and have everything you have,
document it, it proved to be in value. Goal should
you need it. Hey, coming up in a few minutes,
we're gonna have an update on what's going on out
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at Colorado.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Also Michigan.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Wow, hey, Michigan state legislature is trying to say that
you can't have colored guns. What yeah, let's say, how
are they phrasing this? Let me look this up.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
To do.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Oh yeah, the whole idea is that you can't. They're
trying to do this as they go out the door
because the legislature, of course, is changing hands, and they say, well,
we'll just do this. Deceptive coloring products, deceptively colored guns.
That is not only the guns, but even the products
(39:53):
you use like Sarah Coote, so camouflage guns, pink guns,
blue guns, anything like that, where you you rest up
your gun, American flag guns, all the rest of it
would be illegal in Michigan. Why because they can because
they hate you, not that they hate guns. Don't ever
think they hate guns. They they don't care. They hate you,
(40:14):
They hate me, they hate us. In Colorado, man, what
are they doing out there? They're trying to pass a
crazy gun ban on semi automatic firearms rifles, pistol shotguns.
On Friday, the US Supreme Court had a conference. They
all get together talk about which cases they're actually going
to agree to hear. They call it grant cerciori grant cert.
(40:38):
They had a couple of I think maybe three second
mimic cases. The big one was the Snops case out
of Maryland, that's their ban on semi automatic firearms. Later
that day, the Supreme Court reported on three of the
cases that were not second medicas, and they said, we're
going to grant cert on these. So it's a little
bit disconcerting that they did not assert all our second
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medic cases, but they also didn't deny them. We will
find out tomorrow nine point thirty am Eastern time where
they report. Are they going to grant cert? That is,
are they going to take these cases and hear them
and decide whether these states can ban semi automatic firearms.
Are they going to deny and say, Okay, we're not
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gonna take this case at all, and we're gonna let
those gun bans stand. But they have a third option,
and that I think is probably what we're going to
end up with tomorrow. The third option is they're going
to relist the cases. That is, we're going to take
them up again in conference. We're going to talk about
them again. The problem is we're getting very very close
(41:44):
to the deadline. If when we could get these cases
heard by the current makeup of the Supreme Court, that
would be the twenty twenty five session. So tomorrow you
can check online. I'll have something about it on Twitter.
Now X you want to follow you over there. I
am at gun talk, so I'll have the news about that.
(42:06):
Maybe they will conference on it again if they relist it.
I mean if look, if they deny sert, we're in
real trouble. That would be utterly catastrophic because what they'd
be saying is we think it's okay for states to
ban the sale of commonly owned and used guns if
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they're semi automatic. Well, once you start down that road,
then it's okay for the to ban anything clearly. I mean,
that's where they're going now keep expanding. It's like I
always say that the great part from the gun banner
standpoint about the term assault weapons. It has no definition,
so it can be anything. It is infinitely expandable. So
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if they deny cert they don't take these cases we're
in real trouble.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
If they realist it, we live to.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Fight another day, which means the following Friday they will
conference about him and we get another shot. So anyway,
I'll keep you posted over on Twitter and you could
follow me over there on X as I say my
handle or whatever it is they call it fairs at
gun Talk, I'll keep you posting there because I have
stories there all throughout the week to keep you as
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informed as possible. Hey, when we come back, I want
to talk about what's going on out at Colorado and
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hey, welcome back. I'm Tom Gresham. This this gun Talk.
If you want to join this, it's pretty easy. Just
give me a call. Here's my name, Tom Talk Gun.
How's that for easy? Tom Talk Gun, Give me a holler.
We'll talk about well, guess what guns. That's what we
do around there. We just talking about this brand new
rifle cartridge that was introduced by Federal called the seven
(00:36):
millimeter Backcountry.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's new technology.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It uses a steel alloy case that can handle higher pressures. Typically,
the highest pressure we have in brass cases is sixty
five thousand psi, and this one goes to eighty thousand psi.
The idea is to not necessarily get more velocity, but
hold on to that high velocity. As you shorten the
(01:03):
barrel of your hunting rifle. A lot of people are
going to shorter barrels. Lighter rifles going to shorter barrel
so we can put a suppressure on it whatever. But
they don't want to keep giving up the velocity and
so that's what this does. It's new technology, it's brand new,
and I think it's probably the start of things to come. Well,
we're fortunate enough a lot of times we get things
in advance, we get to go out and shoot them.
(01:23):
I did a little video on this cartridge got a
month ago, and so you can go look at that
on our website gun talk dot com or gun talk
dot Tv, and you can look at of course on YouTube.
But more than that, we actually just got a chance
to go out and take it hunting.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well I didn't, but our crew did.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Joining me right now is Ryan Gresher from rains Ready
Studios and gun Talk Media, who just returned from an
epic hunting trip to New Mexico. Ryan, you know, you
guys are pretty crazy. Was the way you guys went
out there and back.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
You do crazy stuff when you're a hunter, that's for sure, all.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Right, So explain to people. I guess what you did.
And the timeline on it was fascinating.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Well, yes, we started talking to Federal about this a
couple of months ago, and really we didn't know what
exactly this new product was going to be. It started
out as hey, we have something big new coming and
we go neat, okay, well, let us know when you
can let us know. And then we got worded, hey,
this is what's coming this seven milimeters back country, and
(02:32):
we got you know, it's always a chicken egg thing
with a new cartridge, right, So we got like a
box in and this is all just ramping up for
production for them. So I think we got a box
of the one hundred and sixty eight grain Barns bullets
in and we had no gun and so we're like, yeah,
it looks like Ammo meat. And then we got Christiansen
(02:55):
sent us a rifle, and then we got we kept
kind of beg borrowed and pleaded, you know, hey, can
you guys send us some more Ammo? Okay, let me
see what I can get. I think we got one
hundred and fifty five grain terminal ascent, one hundred and
seventy grain terminal ascent, and we were we were I
think they were literally scrounging the factory to try to
find a box here, box there. Because when companies introduced
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these new products, they're not necessarily stamping out thousands of
rounds a day. I mean, they announced it and they're
still kind of ramping up the real production of it.
So we got that in and we liked the way, honestly,
we liked the way all of them shot, but the
one hundred and seventy grain terminal ascent. I'd heard great
things about the terminal ascent I personally had not used
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it in a real world application for hunting. So we thought,
I mean, we can, we can shoot groups into paper
and it looks kind of nice, and we're chronoling it
and guess what out of a twenty inch barrel, that
one hundred and seventy grain bullet was going About three
thousand eighty was what we were averaging, so nearly thirty
(04:03):
one hundred fet per second, which is pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, especially out of a twenty inch barrel. You'd expect
that out of twenty six inch barrel maybe, but man,
that's something.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
So we said, you know what we gotta do. We
have to go any excuse to go hunting.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I mean, you have to go hunting.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah, I know. So we said, let's put let's use
this in real life. And it was really last minute.
I mean we said, well, I mean back country one
hundred and seventy grade, it's essentially a seven magnum cartridge.
We gotta do something big, we gotta go out west,
and so we quickly found a place that we could
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do a cow elk hunt, because actually in January the
bull elk hunts were done and a most everybody was done,
I mean, all the outfitters at this point in the
season are kind of done. But we found a guy
to help us out, and we drove sixteen hours on
Monday to New Mexico and Tuesday we shot three elk
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and Wednesday we drove sixteen hours back.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
With a pickup truck full of elk. Yes, absolutely all right,
So you sent me the video.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Are you and kJ are lined up? Each of you
have your rife while you're shooting the seven back country
he's shooting. I guess what it's three hundred mag.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Three hundred win mag, the old classic elk killer, right,
And that's the way.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
This is the way.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
The outfitter said, you know how he likes and every
outfitter is different, and they every place is different and
kind of what type of stuff you run into, and
so he said, probably we'll get into a group of them.
And what he likes to do is one shot from
one shooter and then wait to see how that goes.
And then one, you know, one shot from the other shooter.
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And so that way we can avoid shooting into this
herd and at risk of shooting more. Elkan, you intended
to shoot when you get confusing, So that's exactly what
we do. We bring. We hiked up this this hill
because we saw they were kind of up top of
this hill off in the distance. Since we hiked closer,
we were about four hundred yards out, and we knew
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what our dope was going to be. And actually I
was using a brand new scope that is a new
Winchester Optics line. So if anybody's interested, it's a Winchester
Optics is is a new thing. I think it's sort
of in partnership with maybe it's optics Planet and bringing
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in these optics. And so, I mean, I knew what
the dope was four hundred yards. Okay, let's go to
six m A and I shot bull or not bull?
Cow down and then kJ shot and so it's two
shots too, Elk down.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It was seven seconds between your two shots.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You shot, and I hear the guy say, you know,
help down our cow down, and he says, go ahead, kJ.
And then he was already on describe your setup with
the rest you're using.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
That was pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Yeah, So we both had we both had like bipods
or tripods. I had one of those bog bog tripods
with like the hog saddle and put that on the
front of the gun like you would kind of a
traditional rest. But then we had a tripod in the back.
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And what you do is you wrap your arm around
the leg of the tripod in the rear and like
you would shoot from a bench where you you don't
have any hand out in the front of the gun,
and your your forward hand comes back behind the butt,
and so you grab the leg of the tripod and
the and the butt of the gun and now you
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have a very very steady platform to shoot from. And
so I shoot from the left shoulder because I'm left
eye dominant. So I was on one leg of the tripod.
kJ was on the other leg of the tripod on
the other side, and we were just both sitting there
with crosshairs on elk and he said, whenever you're ready,
and I broke the shot. He said, she's down, Go ahead, kJ,
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whenever you're ready, And about when he finished that sentence,
kJ broke the shot and elk down. So, I mean
it was a really efficient way to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Two shots, two elk, and then your childhood buddy Rob
is actually out with another guide and he got an elk.
Same was the same morning.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yeah, same morning. So yeah, it was a it was
a pretty efficient hunt.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It really was. So.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I mean you didn't get to you know, the one
regret you have as well, I didn't get to shoot
my gun a lot, but it seemed to work.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah. The elk was pretty impressed by it. It was
it was about a five hundred pound cow elk. I
mean it was a big cow elk. And she thought
that the seventy grade terminal ascent was really impressive.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I bet so.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So question for you, what's your impression shooting it? Because
people are going to say, well, how's the recoil house
to this house?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Of that? It's kind of like shooting in the other gun,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Yeah, I mean yeah, this is not like I mean,
we have guns that are similar, right, A certain calibers
that are similar. So yeah, I mean I was mine
was suppressed and it was no big deal. kJ Honestly,
he did a lot more of the prep for this
hunt because I had some travel and other things going on.
So he shot this gun and this load a lot
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more than I did. And he said, without the suppressor,
you know, you're shooting the magnum. But of course the
suppressor helps reduce recoil as well as the sound signature.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And of course that's a lot of what this new
characters is about is using a suppressor, using shorter barrels,
so you can have a suppressor or not have this
really really long thing out there.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So you really put all that to the test.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, I mean, we wanted to see what it does
in the real world, and it worked. I really liked it.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Okay, I'll tell you what. I want to take a break, Rye.
When we come back. You just announced some new classes
at range Ready Studios. We want to talk about that
and a few of the other things you do in there.
We're talking with Ryan Gresham. If you want to go
take a look ahead of time range Ready Studios dot Com.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
We'll be right back.
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All right back with you.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I'm running over to range Ready Studios dot Com myself.
We're talking with Ryan Gresham, of course, he's the head
guy over there and all the things that have the
gun top Arrange rate stuios. They're doing classes there and experiences,
and Ryan, you made up kind of this concept of
experiences where people can go in and kind of have
the same kind of experience as a gun writer does
when people are introducing our gun companies or optics companies
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introducing new products exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah. So we have training courses and people ask us
all the time. We have defensive pistol and defensive car
being those types of things. But one of the things
we're really known for are these experience classes. And the
idea is we work with companies within the gun world
and they are sponsors of these, so they'll provide the
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gun or the optic or whatever, and we create a
really cool experience and typically that comes with the price
of admission. Also you get to keep the gear you use,
including the gun and the optic and those types of things. So,
for instance, next month in February, we have the irons
to dots the Ruger ARXM experience using the new rugor
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RXm pistol using a vortex optic, and they're going to
be here for two days. Students are going to shoot
a lot with iron sights and then we're going to
add the red dot and we're going to shoot the
red dot on the pistol for a couple of days
or I'm sorry, I'm for the second day. And so
that's the type of thing we do. That one we launched,
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it's sold out in a few days and we actually
have a waiting list on that. That's something people need
to know is that these classes do tend to sell
out quickly, but we do get that. We are able
to take a weight list, so you could sign up
for a different class, or if you want to get
added to the weight list, you can do that on
the website. Now, what we just launched is a really
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special special experience. We've never done anything like this one before.
We partnered with Jacob Gray Firearms, and people might say,
I don't know who Jacob Great Great Firearms is, Well,
it's because they're very boutique, very special. They make very nice,
very high end nineteen eleven pistols and kind of specialize
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in those twenty eleven those double stack nineteen elevens, and
so I mean these are these are kind of like
bucket list guns for people. I mean, there's a wait
list to buy these guns. And so we partnered with
the Jacob Gray and we're doing the Jacob Gray and
Trigicon experience. So Trigacon of course very nice optics. They're
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going to have rmrs on these guns. We're going to
have Jacob Gray TWC nines and you included with the
price of admission you get to keep these. So we're
also all the AMO is going to be provided by
shell Tech, and shell Tech is kind of one of
the pioneers of this new AMMO that we're seeing. There
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is the two piece case stuff. It's very high end,
very accurate, and and it's lighter weight kind of so
it'll be funded put those things together with Jacob Gray
and Trigicon Sheltech. This is coming up at the end
of March, and it's it's pretty phenomenal. I mean, I'll
just I'll just go ahead and lay it out there
for you. I mean, the gun itself is a three
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thousand dollars pistol. I mean a RMR at Trinchicon RMR
is a seven hundred dollars optic. And then you've got
all of the animal provided you've got two days of training,
and it's going to be less than what you think
is going to cost.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, I'm looking on the website right now, it's thirty
five hundred bucks. And you get holster and meg Meg
holster holders, and the training and lunch and coffee and
donuts in the morning and fabulous training, and you get
this stunning double stack nineteen eleven that is, And if
they'll go take a look at the website for Jacob Gray.
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He makes these in a way that's different. These are
not regular nineteen eleven. They look like a regular nineteen eleven,
but that's not the way they're made. They're made out
a billet aluminum and so they're a little bit lighter.
There are just a lot of things about them that
are different and very high end, as you say, very boutiquy.
This is gonna be one of the better values anybody's
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ever had a chance.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
To get a hold of.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yeah, and we I'll be honest, We launched it this
week and the first people of doubt about these new
classes are the people who are on the range Ready
email list. And right now we only have six spots
left in this class.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, yeah, right about it.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, you're hearing it now. You better jump go
to range Readystudios dot com and sign up because there's
not gonna be a better chance for you to not
only get fabulous best you've ever had training, but also
walk away with probably the best handgun you've ever had
at the same time.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah, I mean this is this truly is a bucket
list type of experience and really a gun that's probably
for a lot of us, would be the nicest pistol
you've ever owned. We're gonna and we are going to
have obviously Chris Serena will be doing instructing, but we're
also going to have Mark Yackley there and if real follows,
you know, competitive shooting, the Yaklee family, the Yacke five.
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Becky Acklee is Mark's wife, Mark's son just won the
world shoot. I mean, this is a family of shooters
who are so experienced and bring such knowledge, and so
you're going to get to train with Mark Yakley and
Chris Reno, which is just just extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Well, I remember interviewing the Acles up as Bianchy Cup,
but I said, well, how do you guys do it?
You got your whole family, You're traveling all around and said,
we'll we homeschool and all we do is we go
from Matt's to match to matt I mean, that's what
they do.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
This is a shooting.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Family at a level that people have not even familiar with,
that not even heard of before. So you have to
have Mark teaching as well as Chris. Oh my gosh,
that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, and I will say that I think we're going
to have I know we're going to have some folks
from Jacob Gray Pistols there. So that's kind of me.
You're you know, you get to train with the pistol,
you get to take this pistol home. People from the
company are going to be there to answer your questions
and work with you on stuff. So it's just it's
just a really unique experience. And that's why we call
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these experiences. They're not just classes.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
How do you come up with these?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well, you know, we've just been at this for so long.
I mean, you know, we work with all these different
companies over the years, and it's just something that we
kind of ran across. So we want to give our audience.
We want to give the public the same type of
experience that we have when we show up when a
company is launching a new product and really put together
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because a lot of times people ask, you know, what
should I buy?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
What should I get?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
And what's good? And I mean, this is the question
you get all the time on the radio show, right
and and so we're able to reach out to these
companies and say, hey, this is something that would be cool.
Would you be interested? And they are, I mean, and
we'll also be filming while we're there, so you'll better
or worse. You'll see, uh, just see how the sausage
is made a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
This is true.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You get to just say, oh, okay, that's how they
make the videos.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
And guess what.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
You'll also be on the videos too, which is kind
of a fun thing as well.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Yeah, there's possibility to end up in there.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, so if you're in the witness Protection program.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Let us know ahead of time exactly.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Now, there you go. So where are you off to next?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I know, Las Vegas?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Oh goodness. Yeah. We got Shot Show leaving for Shot
Show in on six days and so lots of new
stuff coming out and it'll be fun. We'll be broadcasting
from Shot Show. You'll be doing the radio show from
a couple places, and we'll be posting videos across the
gun Talk YouTube and Facebook and all the other channels
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that we post content on throughout the week. Not this
week but next week, Jim.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
So they'll be throughout that week. Now this coming with
the following week.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
If they're watching, you're gonna have videos interviewing people at
Shots Show about new products. You know, new guns, new Ammo,
new optics, knew everything. It so a little bit a
chance to see them and actually, you know, see you
a little hands on there. So there you go, Ryan,
I appreciate congratulations on the elk.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
By the way, thank you. You know we brought to
the butcher and the quarters and everything else. Wait out
at one hundred and seventy three pounds. I'm gonna fill
in the freezer.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You are, aren't you. That is a big cow elk.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
All right, well I will see you in about a
week in Vegas.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
All right, sounds good?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
All right, you take care. Hi, there you go. What
a story?
Speaker 11 (21:44):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Drive sixteen hours one day, shoot three out next day,
turn around and drive sixteen hours back. They ran out
of space and the coolers they brought and they just
had elk meat stuffed all throughout this the pickup, the
bed of the pick up, as he said, a good thing.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It was cold as we were driving back. So there
you go.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
All right, we're open lines. Now what are you shooting?
What are you buying? And what do you think about
a new rifle carts? Give me a call it Tom
talk gun. Hey did you see the Mark Zuckerberg at
Facebook has said they're going to get rid of their
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fact checkers. I guess they got forty thousand people who
are basically sensors.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
They call them fact checkers. Their sensors.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
They block information or posts that they don't agree with,
or they don't like, or, as we're now finding out,
the ones that the US government tells them to block.
During COVID, during the Hunter Biden laptop, the government was
calling often like several times a day, to Facebook and say,
you got to block this account, you gott to block
this account, You got to shut these people down.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
They're saying things that we don't agree with.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So now you saying we're going to get rid of
forty thousand fact checkers and let the community notes work.
We're not gonna block post about anything that's legal. Really,
that's gonna be interesting to see, because of course they
block a lot of stuff about legal activities. When it
involves guns. You post things about you shooting or owning guns,
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or collecting guns, or pictures of your guns on Facebook,
there's a pretty good chance you're gonna get blocked. They're
gonna shut it down or maybe even shut down your account.
That's gonna be fun to watch. Not that I expect
them to actually lift their restrictions on free speech about
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firearms where it's like even Elon Musk at X, you
still can't you can't advertise guns on X. Gun companies
can't advertise that it's a perfectly legal product. It's a
highly regulated product. All guns that are made by manufacturers
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that are sold in gun stores have to have the
oka of the FBI for their soul. I mean, unless
you got a background check done through your casio carry permit,
which sometimes happens in some states. Speaking of conceio carry,
we have a couple of bills introduced in Congress, one
of the Senate, one of the House, from national reciprocity.
That is, if you have a conceo carry permit in
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your state, you would be able to carry in all states,
subject to whatever laws they have there. President Trump, incoming
President Trump has said he will sign this if it
passes Congress. What I don't know is one of the
odds because there are several several Republicans who probably will
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pose it. We'll see see what happens there. Let's grab
line four. Brad's with us out of Missouri. You know, Brad,
we were talking about the two seventy Winchester, but I
think you got maybe another to take on that.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Yes, thanks for taking my call. I have a two
subdy Weatherby absolutely. I love the gun. My ten year
old his first shot with the two subny Weatherby was
a fifteen point buck. It does have a muscle break
which reduces the recoil to like a two forty three m.
I like the bold action that goes up to fifty
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four degrees. I believe doesn't go all the way up
to the scope. But I think the two subny weatherb
is underrated. It's absolutely zero in that three hundred yards
only has three a half inch arc right. Really a
wonderful gun.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
The two seventy Weatherby. I used to have a single
shot Ruger number one in the two seventy Weatherby and
it was a lightning bolt. I mean it's so fast.
It's considerably faster than the two seventy Winchester. Here's the
thought for you. You've got that muscle break on there,
and you know how much louder a muscle break makes
your gun.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
So that's a pain. Have you considered putting a pressure
on there?
Speaker 12 (26:01):
No, I have not.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I think you would very much enjoy the shooting experience
of putting us a pressure on there. I'll get you
a lightweight suppressor, maybe like the banished thirty that silence
or central cells. I mean, it'll screw right on where
your Moza break screws on. Unscrew that one, screwed this
one on, and it will reduce the recoil the way
your Moza break does. But it also is going to
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reduce the sound so much it's amazing. I have gotten
to the point honestly, or I will not hunt with
a mosta break on my gun. If it has a break,
I will use it sometimes for developing loads and shoot
off the bench. But then I have to take the
moser break off before I go hunting. And then of
course you have to sit in again if you take
the motor break off. But I won't hunt with them
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because they're just too loud.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Yes, okay, I'll look into that. Thanks for the info.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Oh and by the way, you may know this already,
but a number of years ago with my dad we
wrote kind of the defending the book about Weatherby's and
about Roy Wetherby. So if you don't have it, if
you get a chance, you can go online and find
the book a title of Weatherby, the Man, the Gun
and the Legend, and you get some background on how
all these cartriges came about.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Okay, well, thank you for that, though I do run
back to send you Weatherby. It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
It is a good one. Thanks for the caller, appreciate that.
Let's grab Jerry out of Colorado. Hey, Jerry, you're on
gun Talk. What's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (27:29):
Well, Tom, I'm thinking about buying a Ruger sfar but
here in Colorado we've got this nonsense fifteen round magazine limit,
and so I've been looking for SR twenty five magazines
at fifteen round capacity, but all I find is five rounds,
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ten rounds, twenty rounds. You know, I can't find fifteen
round magazines. I've looked high and lowe. I was wondering
if you had any tips where I might work.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You know I don't, because I was going to say,
I'm sure you can find ten rounders. Those are out,
but I don't remember seeing any fifteen round magazines for that.
Speaker 12 (28:08):
Right, and I'm not having any luck yet. The m
one A takes fifteen round magazines that are available, but
I can't find any other three OA semi auto as
little where I can buy new fifteen round magazines anywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So well, as long as I got you here, let
me ask you, how do you like that rugor sfaar.
Speaker 12 (28:30):
Well, i'd like I'm thinking about buying one.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Oh well you don't have it? Okay?
Speaker 12 (28:37):
Well, yeah, because you know, my decisions somewhat depend upon
the magazine availability because of our bogus laws here in
this left wing state.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Well, it's only going to get worst partner because they're
what they're looking at doing now. Colorado will be maybe
the worst of the states figure because they are looking
at banning all semi automatic rifles, almost all semi automatic pistols,
anything that takes a tactable magazine and a lot of shotguns,
and that one is going through the legislature right now.
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In fact, in about twenty twenty five minutes. Here we'll
have all the information about that. If you keep listening,
we'll have that information for you.
Speaker 12 (29:16):
All right, we'll do, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I appreciate it. Yeah, that, thank you, sir. The ruber
Sfar is a smaller, lightweight, felweight semiauto on an AR pattern.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Really nice rifle. They shoot really well.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
They're not as heavy as some of the er ten
platforms out there. Something to take a look at if
you have one. I'd love to get your range report
on and see what you think about it. All right,
number here is It's easy tom talk gun. We'll be
right back.
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Speaker 3 (32:03):
Well, well, well, I didn't take very long.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I said, does anybody have the Ruger SFA r I'd
love to get a range report? And right off the
back it comes Kendall out of South Dakota with a
range report. Hey, Kendall, tell me about this rifle.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
I love it. I got it in three oh eighth
it's you's well under an inch. I was really surprised
all while at shot.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
So all right, what was the thinking about it? Why
did you get this in the first place?
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Uh? What is it? POV was making kind of the
same thing for years, but they were expensive.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Then.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Yeah, so then they Ruger came out with this and
I had to try one, and I don't know. It's
kind of like if the world goes sideways and you
can only grab one. That's the one I grabbed.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Was the one of the appeals of it that it's smaller.
It's not on the full sized AR ten platform. They
actually were able to get a three or eight into
a smaller platform.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah, I have a I have a couple of AR
tensas They've never felt right, you know, they feel blunky, yep,
and this feels just like a regular AR. But it's
three o eight, you know it's and I was really
surprised how well it shot. It shoots well under an inch. Yeah,
(33:22):
I love it. It's kind of my favorite rifle right now.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
No, kidd well, you know why not it get a
three oweight semi auto and a fairly lightweight ergonomic packaging.
If you're used to shooting ars, and a lot of
people are, then you just go ahead and get your
AR and a three h eight.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
So what do you do with that? So primarily just
a target gun? Or do you hunt with it?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Took it out deer honey, shot a deer with it
this year, perfect weight olt hunting. But I took my
three hundred WSM instead.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
But it would work for al County, wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
It I yeah, you know, it'd work just fine.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Of course, I'm thinking if you happen to live in
an area of the country where you got hogs, what
a great hog gun that would be.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
I just borrowed it to a friend of mine. It's
going to Texas right now to go shoot hogs.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Well, good to get to send it down there and
have a good little training. When it comes back, it'll
be a better gun for you.
Speaker 12 (34:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Well I got to work and he gets to play.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Well, that's a great ranger for it. I sure appreciate that. Kendall.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, the Ruger sfar is a very nice rifle. And look,
I have one, I guess, just one AR ten And
Kendle's right.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
It shoots really well. There's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
And I'm not going to name the name because I
don't want to put any shade or any manufacturer because
ar tens are typically bigger, heavier just because of the
size of them.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
And it shoots very well.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
But it's like a nine pound rifle in the sfar
is I remember, right, it's under seven pounds. Well, that's
really significant, and I just I like the idea of
a three to eight ar that comes in at the
same size as the two two three ar. I mean,
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it almost seems impossible. I don't really know how they
did that, but to his point, and yes, a two
two three will do most things for you. Two to
three or five five six I use them interchangeably, But
there's something different about a three h eight. It just
has more thump. And if you decide, okay, I want
to choose something at five hundred yards, yes, of course
(35:43):
you could hit stuff with a five five six of
five hundred yards, but you're just gonna be carrying more
energy with a three to eight.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Do you need that?
Speaker 13 (35:50):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Who knows?
Speaker 7 (35:52):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
The good part of that is? For most of us,
need doesn't have anything to do with our choices about
buying guns or ambo or scopes or red dots or
any the rest of it. We get them because we
like them. And now I gotta tell you I've still
got this up on my computer screen. I'm looking at
the range Ready Studios class. I will admit I did
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not know about Jacob Gray Firearms. I did not know
about their double stack nineteen eleven's. And once I went
to the website and really looked through it, what these
guys are different? There and there are other high end
as we know, other high end double stack nineteen elevens
out there, you know the ones I'm talking about. These
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are made differently. I would really like to shoot worth these.
I'm now trying to figure out, Okay, what can I sell?
Can I sell a couple of three guns? And can
I get down to this class in March at range
Ready Studios and maybe come away with one of these
pistols and what the good part of it is? To
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my other point, I don't need another pistol. I have
more than two right now. But as I say, needs
not ready to factor. The real factor is what can
I get rid of to get this? And maybe Okay,
it's just kind of part of my overall pattern or
(37:22):
I plan right now, which is people say, well, are
you getting rid of guns as you you know, you
get older and all that say, yeah, I am. But
all that means is I'm getting rid of some guns
and buying some other guns. Yes, I'm getting rid of
some guns. It does to mean I'm having fewer guns,
although I'm trying to get there. I'm trying to do
the like two for one or three for one deal
where you can sell or trade two or three and
(37:43):
get one that's a little nicer, get a little bit
more room with safe. Speaking of safes, do you have
a good gun safe that is a fireproof. We're watching
these fires go through California, and look, when a fire
like that hits your house and it burns it to
the ground, you're not going to save any of the
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guns in the safety anyway. When it's so hot that
it's melting the cylinders out of car engines and you
got puddles of illuminum on the ground, you're not.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
But I will say this, make sure you have good insurance. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I know about the insurance issues, but just make sure
you have it. The other thing is make sure you
have documented what you own. Take pictures, take videos, get
serial numbers, and keep that stuff somewhere that's not in
your house, because if your list of everything you own
burns up with your house, you don't have the list anymore. Okay,
(38:42):
put it online, put it in the cloud, give it
to somebody, put it in a safe deposit box somewhere.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
So think about this stuff ahead of tide.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Walk through your house rolling video with your phone, shoot
every wall and open every cabinet and have everything you have,
document it, it proved to be in value. Goal should
you need it. Hey, coming up in a few minutes,
we're gonna have an update on what's going on out
(39:10):
at Colorado.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Also Michigan.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Wow, hey, Michigan state legislature is trying to say that
you can't have colored guns. What yeah, let's say, how
are they phrasing this? Let me look this up.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
To do.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Oh yeah, the whole idea is that you can't. They're
trying to do this as they go out the door
because the legislature, of course, is changing hands, and they say, well,
we'll just do this. Deceptive coloring products, deceptively colored guns.
That is not only the guns, but even the products
(39:53):
you use like Sarah Coote, so camouflage guns, pink guns,
blue guns, anything like that, where you you rest up
your gun, American flag guns, all the rest of it
would be illegal in Michigan. Why because they can because
they hate you, not that they hate guns. Don't ever
think they hate guns. They they don't care. They hate you,
(40:14):
They hate me, they hate us. In Colorado, man, what
are they doing out there? They're trying to pass a
crazy gun ban on semi automatic firearms rifles, pistol shotguns.
On Friday, the US Supreme Court had a conference. They
all get together talk about which cases they're actually going
to agree to hear. They call it grant cerciori grant cert.
(40:38):
They had a couple of I think maybe three second
mimic cases. The big one was the Snops case out
of Maryland, that's their ban on semi automatic firearms. Later
that day, the Supreme Court reported on three of the
cases that were not second medicas, and they said, we're
going to grant cert on these. So it's a little
bit disconcerting that they did not assert all our second
(41:02):
medic cases, but they also didn't deny them. We will
find out tomorrow nine point thirty am Eastern time where
they report. Are they going to grant cert? That is,
are they going to take these cases and hear them
and decide whether these states can ban semi automatic firearms.
Are they going to deny and say, Okay, we're not
(41:22):
gonna take this case at all, and we're gonna let
those gun bans stand. But they have a third option,
and that I think is probably what we're going to
end up with tomorrow. The third option is they're going
to relist the cases. That is, we're going to take
them up again in conference. We're going to talk about
them again. The problem is we're getting very very close
(41:44):
to the deadline. If when we could get these cases
heard by the current makeup of the Supreme Court, that
would be the twenty twenty five session. So tomorrow you
can check online. I'll have something about it on Twitter.
Now X you want to follow you over there. I
am at gun talk, so I'll have the news about that.
(42:06):
Maybe they will conference on it again if they relist it.
I mean if look, if they deny sert, we're in
real trouble. That would be utterly catastrophic because what they'd
be saying is we think it's okay for states to
ban the sale of commonly owned and used guns if
(42:28):
they're semi automatic. Well, once you start down that road,
then it's okay for the to ban anything clearly. I mean,
that's where they're going now keep expanding. It's like I
always say that the great part from the gun banner
standpoint about the term assault weapons. It has no definition,
so it can be anything. It is infinitely expandable. So
(42:51):
if they deny cert they don't take these cases we're
in real trouble.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
If they realist it, we live to.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Fight another day, which means the following Friday they will
conference about him and we get another shot. So anyway,
I'll keep you posted over on Twitter and you could
follow me over there on X as I say my
handle or whatever it is they call it fairs at
gun Talk, I'll keep you posting there because I have
stories there all throughout the week to keep you as
(43:22):
informed as possible. Hey, when we come back, I want
to talk about what's going on out at Colorado and
also with a gun gun band industry is up to
right now, we'll get an update from insiders. Also, another
month where the US had more than a million knicks
background checks. Americans are buying guns
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