December 31, 2025 • 41 mins
If you catch yourself making "old-man noises," this is your episode of Gun Talk Nation. Ryan Gresham, Chris Cerino, Kevin “KJ” Jarnagin and guests open up about everything from fitness and flexibility as gun owners, to mental health in the firearms community, to childhood BB gun stories, and the quirks of getting older. It’s a candid, often funny, and sometimes serious conversation that reminds us why staying sharp—physically and mentally—matters.
This isn’t your typical gun podcast—it's a raw, unfiltered take on life behind the trigger.
This Gun Talk Nation is brought to you by Black Hills Ammunition, NRA-ARC, Range Ready Studios, and Military Armament Corp.
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This isn’t your typical gun podcast—it's a raw, unfiltered take on life behind the trigger.
This Gun Talk Nation is brought to you by Black Hills Ammunition, NRA-ARC, Range Ready Studios, and Military Armament Corp.
About Gun Talk Nation
Gun Talk Media's Gun Talk Nation with Ryan Gresham is a weekly multi-platform podcast that offers a fresh look at all things firearms-related. Featuring notable guests and a lot of laughs. Gun Talk Nation is available as an audio podcast or in video format.
For more content from Gun Talk Media, visit guntalk.com or subscribe on YouTube, Rumble, Facebook, Instagram, and X. Catch First Person Defender on the new Official FPD YouTube channel. Watch Gun Talk Nation on its new YouTube channel. Catch Gun Talk Hunt on the new dedicated YouTube Channel. Listen to all Gun Talk Podcasts with Spreaker, iHeart, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you find podcasts.
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Gun Talk Nation 12.31.25
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, Well, if you get the right bullet that doesn't expand,
that heavy two to twenty grain bullet will go clean
through a six by six and hit your cement wall
and probably break something of your ex wife's too.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm Ryan Gresham and this this is Guntognation. Guntalg Nation
is brought to you by Black Hills Ammunition, n RA
ARC Range Ready and Mac. All Right, welcome into Guntognation.
(00:42):
This will be a random show. We've got Kevin Jarnagan.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Three random as you get, you'll say random with us two.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
On the couch. That's as random as you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's random to wrap up the year or start the
new year, depending on how you look at you already
something dumb like I burned my hand and on a
toaster oven. But wait, let me tell you how I
did it. So I got the toaster oven and I
got all this toast in there because I'm making breakfast
(01:13):
for the kids and myself. And you know how like
when you want a butter toast, but the butter doesn't
melt and then you just mush the hard butter into
the bread, right, Yeah, So I was like, I'll slice
the butter and I'll put it on the toast and
I'll close up the toaster oven. After it's toasted, give
(01:35):
it a minute, let it soften, easy to spread. But
I didn't bother to take the bread out of the
toaster oven. So I'm trying. I'm trying to reach into
the back of the toaster oven with little pieces of buger.
And guess what happened. I touched the grape. I touched
it into it and yeah, now it's burned. And then
(01:58):
there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Then he continued on, and I'm trying to ow.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, change al I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
No, you don't know how bad it is until after
it's done and you're done.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And you're like, she burgs.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, you're like, oh wow, and then you're going man
like all them losing the skin, Yeah, okay, interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Those are smart scars. Oh yeah, well I got one
this morning too. But that's a whole nother cat story.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
So you got scratched by your cat.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
The cats both try to jump up on the counter
at the same time to get their food at their spot,
and they banged off each other. One fell on my
foot slashed.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
My foot open.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So the whole time I'm doing my yoga this morning,
I'm bleeding all over the yoga mat because you know,
I'm older and I bleed like you know, I tear
like a wet paper bag and I bleed like a
stuck pig.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So anyways, that's what you got to see it in
the papyrus.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, you have to feed them separate, you use separate or.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
On the ground.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, while you got to feed them.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I just say you have cats walking around on the
place for you eat.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I say that.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I was like, if you feed them on the counter.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Stillun your room, I have that little work area, not
on the floor.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, that's the difference with cat people and dog people,
Like you wouldn't like be like, hey, dog, jump up
on this counter.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Dogs are disgusting. Cats just put their butthole on everything.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And that's not and they like.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, your cats are kind of outside cats too, but
when they go to the bathroom, they're walking around in
their toilet.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So I shouldn't put their paws in my mouth, that's
what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, and I know you do that. I he does
that show.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
We just jump right in there and didn't we Gosh?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh, I love cats, you know, I always say I
can't I love cats, but I can't eat a whole one.
And and the problem is I hate how much I
love those damn cats.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So now can't they've seen behind the curtain. This is
and cats. That's Chris Thury.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
You know did mention yoga, but.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You're about us gun trader guy.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I know, right, I gotta get more cat.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I will say this, like when you talk about unconventional
shooting positions or getting into a position, like being flexible
and agile enough.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
To get into those positions on.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Is worth it if you do yoga and yoga if
you're not in shape, it's very difficult.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I'll tell you what. I missed it because you know
I was sick for two weeks. I missed it for
two weeks, and when I came back, literally kicked my ass,
just beat me up. Yeah, but I do. I can
tell you this. When we filmed for the NRA and
we were doing the stuff for the new the new
uh ARC Challenge, yep uh doing the stuff around the
(04:47):
barricades and all that positional shooting.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Man, easy getting into positions.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Funny if you if you exercise and you stretch and
all that stuff you you just made make it part
of your lifestyle. You do it daily weekly, you almost
kind of take it for granted. I mean, I just
I just have an expectation that I should be able
to get down and get up off the ground. I
should be able to sit and stand and lay down
(05:15):
and not be like, oh god, oh now, I mean
I get it, people get old and stuff changes. But like,
can I tell you a pet peeve of mine, Yeah,
I don't hear it when you're sitting on an airplane,
And I get it, some people have different various physical abilities.
But when you're sitting on an airplane and the person
(05:36):
behind you grabs your seat to pry themselves out of
the seat instead of just using their legs and just
standing up.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Right, wait until you get to my age, you'll start
noticing it more. I know that Michael's sitting over there
and he's thinking about this. And Michael and I have
had to talk that we're going to start to do
less things and grunt or grown like we willize this
and we're like, like Jesus started.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I'll tell you like, and I look, it happens, right,
It's I think it's the natural progression of things. I mean, now,
it's like, instead of saying I'm gonna go for a run.
It's like I think I'm gonna go for a walk,
Like I'm just gonna I don't you know, it's not
go ambulate because because when I when I do the
whole like and I'm k kJ is a runner, I'm like,
(06:28):
I'm not a runner. I'm not built for this. But
you know, once every few months, I'm like, I'm gonna
be a runner, and then I'll go run two or
three miles and I do like running, and then my
back's like what are you doing? Where my knees are
like what You're doing well?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
And I'm here to tell you that. And I know
that there's some folks watching and they're wondering how this
all relates to everything with don talk Nation. But this
is one hundred percent true. I have been I've been
very fortunate to live a fitness style life because I've
been in tactical operations, law enforcement and culture of working
out the culture of exercise and fitness. However, as a
(07:04):
law enforcement officer, you sit and think about it. You
sit in a car in this position for eight hours
a day. Yeah, man, you lose all flexibility. In a
swat guy, everybody wants to be big in buff and
then you forget about your lower unit and your legs,
and then you put on seventy five pounds of gear
and guns, and you jump out of an assault vehicle
or tactical vehicle, any kind of car, and all of
(07:24):
a sudden, you realize that your legs can't hold all
this stuff up. So as I got older, I started
focusing more on functional fitness and all around fitness. And
I used to do a program called Fit for Duty.
I would teach at the State for you know, once
a year, and it was I talked about parking, parking
further don't look for the closest parking spot, you know,
(07:48):
park further way, don't.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Take the elevator, take the stairs.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You know, when you mow your yard, mow it with vigor. Yeah,
let's just walk push it like I'm going through the motions,
like push the damn thing, move it, swing it around,
do stuff. Just all the things you could do. Stay
away from sugary sodas.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Just that alone.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I've seen guys that I've worked with lose twenty pounds.
Oh yeah, instantly, just melt it off.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And as I get older, I can tell you this
that it is highly beneficial to me to have been fit,
because when I am knocked down like I had the
cancer and you know, just being sick last week, the
yoga kicked my butt two weeks later because it gets
harder to maintain it and be better.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
My buddy got to get ready.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, my buddy Dave was He's a brilliant guy. He
worked at the biomedical research center in Baton Rouge LSU
thing where they like it's crazy. Their place is crazy.
They have like weighted floors or like the whole room
is like a scale and they're testing you. They're literally
experimenting on people. But he got pulled over by a
(08:55):
cop and the somehow that he starts chatting up this
cop and the guy's like, yeah, I actually lost like
thirty pounds. He said, I bet you stopped drinking soda.
He goes, you're right, that is how I did it.
But I have a question, Chris, so tactical operation SWAT
team stuff, would you say that? And I'm saying this
as a as a positive, is there a culture of
(09:17):
keeping each other in check of and maybe in a
cop way, shaming somebody for like, dude, your belly's getting
big or whatever. Like at least, I mean, we could
joke about cops and donuts and stuff, but in that
swat team tactical operation side, like, look, you you go
to the you have a jiu jitsu gym? Is there
a culture of like, yes, And I think there's what
(09:39):
I'm doing friends right here of us doing what I'm
getting at is there's value in that.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And there's certain people in the world that are like,
you shouldn't body shame and you shouldn't do this. I'm like,
I guess again, people with various body types and skills
or whatever. But there is value to go and hey man,
hey bro your brother or hey man, dude, what's up.
(10:07):
I'll get to wait. I'd also, hey, what's up? You
look like you lost some weight. Yeah, I've been working
at it man.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I will say this though, that you two completely failed
me a couple of years ago because I had put
on thirty pounds. It didn't realize it, and then I
saw myself in the camera and I was like, holy crap,
gave up any alcohol, Like I said, I don't drink alcohol.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Anymore, and like I shed forty pounds.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Really, yes, and neither one of you son of a
gun ever said carry it so.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well, it's like you're bulking. You were up going up
a weight class. But there is.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Something to be said for someone just being fat and
happy sometimes.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And we know you Doujo was not happy, so you
have that level. This is the this is the season
of fat and happy.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You can be.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You can be a shape.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yes, rounch and be fit like you do juju constantly.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, so you are. It's so different.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
kJ think about think about think about the guy that
does nothing, that puts on forty pounds.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes, no, I do do anything else.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I do agree with the difference. And yes we did
fail you, but you did take it to the extreme
because you are no fun because you don't drink. I
know I don't and I just just the last two
weeks ago, three weeks ago, it's been now I've been
I just cut out alcohol during the week because I
was just getting that comfort drink in Green Knight, having
(11:29):
that comfort drinking. Sometimes I'm gonna get another finger, not two,
but i'ma have one more.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Right, because it's tasted so good and it felt so good.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Well, you know I've already lost one pounds.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
One tastes like two and two tastes like four. You're like,
oh that was quick, that was just delicious.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
But I've already lost eight pounds. Yeah, and I quit
dipping my hand in the candy bowl in the in
the kitchen every day. Now I'm not saying I don't
have a piece of candy, but I quit doing it
every day.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well, you know what.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But on the other end of this, on the other
end of this, we have students come here that are
are are not in the shape that we would like
to see them in, and then something happens and maybe
it spurs like a little thought like I should do
this better. Chris will write them a little bit, which
is good. But these guys are shooters like you.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Look at Mitch.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Mitch the other day, he came to a class the
day after he got home, has a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Like.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Dighes on the table, basically he died, and then jumps
back in like, I guarantee you the next class week
post he will be in it and he will be
happy to do it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And he already told me, He's already texted me and said,
can't wait for the ar class. And I'm thinking, Mitch,
you're glutting for punishment. But he's lost already like forty pounds.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, just a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But you but he's taking those for that life of abundance. Man.
I love to drink and I love to ye, but
I also love to shoot and compete, and I know
that if my body can't do it, then what can
I do? And what's going to happen to me?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, I mean when we talk about like self defense,
concealed carry, being prepared, being aware and all this stuff,
and we like to talk about well, you know, the
P three sixty five holds it's so little and it
holds twelve rounds and this nine millimeters load is hollow
point and expands this and this. You know, what would
also be good is be able to run, be able
(13:28):
to you know, like you know, I mean fight, I guess,
but like just have the physical ability to you know,
maybe do certain things because we we get wrapped up
on the gear, but also your quality of life. This look,
let we're I promise we're going to get into more
(13:48):
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to continue this old man grunt talk. Welcome back to
old man grunt talk. So we're going to go back
(16:19):
to this. At the break, Michael's talking about, you know,
and Chris a conscious effort to not do the old
man grunt, Yeah, which I guess is like maybe you
know it's a thing. It is. If you're twenty years old,
you hop into your lifted truck and you don't grunt.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But then when you're fifty six you.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Hop into your not lifted truck. Yeah, you don't hop,
you climb in there and you grunt.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Can I just say, can we make a conscious effort
not to make old man noises?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Period?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh it's not gonna happen. Oh that's not that's been
my life. That's not old man thing.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That's old man noises. That's Chris need like a god
that that? Is that a nervous thing? Or is it?
Does he have a does he need to sign you
plast or not?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It's not I Coul's not rocket right here. If you like,
I'll do that instead. It's more cool, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
No, get some floonaise or something.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
No, you don't ever want.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
To be addicted to that stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Bad.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I heard I've heard people getting addicted to the flow.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I did promise the people that we would talk about
gun things.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
But flown aise is like pressing a trigger, like we
need to be addicted.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Timmy goes, if there's a trigger on, we'll make a
or what do you say if it has a trigger. Well,
we're thinking about making one for it. Yeah, windex bottle whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Well, and there's something that that's been been bothering me,
is uh with the last couple of mass shootings we had,
you know, and I know that this all timely stuff,
and it continues and carries on, and I'm sure it's
going to carry on through twenty six. Is everybody wants
new gun control laws when mental health and societal influence
(18:02):
is really the bigger deal.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Well, it's easier to address the gun that it is
mental health because we like to dance around.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
They're just une.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
We're fat, right or crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Exactly, But those are the hard like literally, there are
people who are like, you can't tell someone they're crazy.
That's their reality. I'm sorry, but you know some people
are fat.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yes, yes, and some people that's there.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
There, that's their their lifestyle, their body type. No, it's
it's a medical diagnosis.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You do realize your bones are not growing. Your your
bones are not growing.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It's you. Your your frame is what your frame is.
My my medical chart every year when I go in
and it says obese, and I think to myself, I'm
gonna I'm gonna punch them.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I was gonna say I'm gonna kill somebody.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
No, I'm not say that hard that I'm gonna punch
somebody in the face.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
If they call me obeste again, they're fat shamed.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Did they say obeste or obese? I prefer saying obese.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, I thought it was really inappropriate when the nurse said, hey, fatty, yeah,
that's a little too far.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
We're not just mental issue.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah we're not.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
We avoid it, yeah, we we would rather avoid it
and not dedicate the resources.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Where did all the mental asylums go?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Like? Are those we can't say stuff like that. I
don't know. I'm not old enough to really remember this,
but I know Tom Gresham has said that the movie
One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest with Jack Nole, Yes,
it painted a picture of mental asylums in such a
horrible light that they really like they It was kind
of a a catalyst to be like, you know, we
(19:43):
don't need to put people in mental hospitals, right And
I don't know, I mean, somebody could be listening to
Ryan you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
But I'm just kind of like, this is what I understand.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well and and part our producer editor Michael Funding was
cut for the mental asylums in the night teen eighties. Yeah,
they cut that out, so we stopped treating it. In
the eighties, when did everything start taking off? Like as
far as like mass shootings and mental there's a.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Lot of them.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
There's I mean, it's not it's a really complicated issue
right there.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I think there's a movie or a book or something.
They walk amongst us. Well, when there's nowhere to put them,
they do walk amongst us. Because as a law enforcement officer,
I can tell you that there were areas where that's
where the mental health people would they would subsidize these
people so they could have a life on their own.
You know, I've told you guys the stories about almost
(20:35):
shooting you know, a guy and I didn't know he was.
I didn't know he was. He was not really wrong,
I mean, and you know, he was just he was there.
He was put there. And then then I found out
there was more people in that area. So then you know,
you start learning where these people are at and you
can deal with them differently. However, I had to deal
(20:55):
with them in a professional fashion. But think about what
society does society doesn't know. They don't look at you
and identify it. They don't look at that person identify them.
But yeah, that's the real things. We don't address it.
I'm concerned about it. I'm also concerned about the idea
that the family structure, the the entitlement thing.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
It's I'm entitled.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I'm entitled. Nobody's dad is kicking their butts anymore. I
didn't have to beat my kids, but I was hard
on them, and I really, well, no, you're not necessarily
hard on them. You held them to a standard.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Well, letting somebody do anything they want and be anything
they want is not loving them. Like saying, you know,
you can you can eat you know, twinkies every single
day because that's what they like and that's what they
want to do is not loving them. Letting your kid
play video games for eight hours a day is not
loving them because so they like playing video games. That's
(21:51):
not helping. Then I was up in the long road.
It's about that, you know, It's like all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Well, because when we were young, it was like grab
your bb gun, go outside and just enjoy the outdoors,
shoot things, shoot.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Things like and that it was everything was on the table.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Maybe not everything, but I.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Remember I love that. When we were up at Black
Hills Ammunition filming with Jeff Hoffman who owns it, and
he's I want to say, he grew up there in
that South Dakota area in Rapid City, and we were
talking about him growing up and going outside and shooting guns.
And he says, you know, I don't think there was
a fence post in Rapid City that didn't have a
(22:34):
Jeff Hoffman bebe in it just going there. And that's true.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Like those days, those days of letting kids out and
letting them run around with a red Rider, those days
are pretty much gone.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Because Lord help you.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
If you see like a mom just driving through the
neighborhood and sees my kid walking her out around the
street with a red.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Rider in your yard.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
If they saw saw your kid out front with a
BB gun in the yard, somebody would.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Call the cops. Yes.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Now, my neighbors that I know right around me, they
wouldn't think twice about it.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
No. Real when they call you and you say, you say,
is he aware of his target and his backstock?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Yeah? Has he pointed anything?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Is he is he shooting people with it? Or is
he just shooting trees.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
No, actually he's just carrying it around in the front yard. Okay,
well call us when he does something.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
That's right, Yeah, if he disobeys any of those forty
I mean gun safety.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I think I told this story in the past, but
I mean, obviously I grew up kind of in a
like a somewhat gunny household. I mean somewhat somewhat. I
had a ten meter air gun range down the hallway
of our house because we had this long hallway, almost
a shotgun house kind of deal. And I had a
box filled with newspaper, and I think I could do
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seven or eight pumps. This wasn't even a BB gun.
This is a pellet gun. Yeah, and I could, uh,
and I close the door behind it, so it's sort
of an extra backstop. But I mean I would lay
down prone in the hallway.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
The old Crossman seven sixty.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, I know, and shoot and shoot down the hallway
and I would yell. I would yell range his hot
and going on everything knew not step out of the hallway. Yeah,
and I would shoot in the house. It wasn't even
we didn't have basements in Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, that is jil shooting my basement did the same thing,
but we had basements. Yeah, yeah, I always still do.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I had a camera guy. We had a camera guy
who was a gun guy. Now he was single, live
by himself, owned his house, but he had a bullet
trap and he would shoot his nine millimeter in his house.
What he goes, No, I up shoot with a silencer.
I'm like, bro, Still, I don't shoot a lot, but
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you know, sometimes you just want to shoot a little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Can I tell you an adult story about shooting in
the basement? Oh, boysonic loads. Trying to get the velocities,
and I'm checking velocities, and I used to shoot into
us a six by six. I would just shoot these
subtimes into it and uh.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
A six by six What a piece of wood because
it would just catch it.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Now, I was trying to get velocity and I would
just shoot across.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well, if you get the right bullet that doesn't expand,
that heavy two twenty grain bullet will go clean through
a six by six and hit your cement wall and
probably break something of your ex wife's too.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
They're a keyword in the XX. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny
thing you bring that up. I do. I literally had
a dream last night about somebody wanting to show me
how this pellet gun is is really cool and powerful,
and they shot it at my wooden fence and as
they're doing that, I'm going, don't do that. And it
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goes through the wooden fence and it goes into my
house like which as a hole in my siding. And
because I've done that too, I've this is. So I
had the whole beat, you know, hell a gun down
the hall story. So as an adult, in my first
hat one, I guess one of my first houses I owned,
I kind of did the same thing. I was like,
I made a box, filled it with newspaper. I put
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it outside up against the shed where I've got my
lawnmower and stuff. Now, this was a one pump what
do you call that? A brick kind of a brake barrel,
one pump And I did not know how powerful that
was straight and I was, yeah, I was out ten
to fifteen yards away. I shoot and I hear and
(26:44):
I'm like, what that it went through? But this is
like stacked newspaper went through that went through the shed,
bounced around in there. You know, I don't know if
you hit my lawnmower or whatever. But I was like, oh, oh,
I did holes inside real.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Remember remember when phones were on cords. Yeah, you had
to sit by the phone when you talked on.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It, like a landline.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I thought you were talking about like the cell phone
and the bag phone.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh no, No, I was talking about real Okay, all right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I'm sitting on that. I'm sitting on a little counter
next to the phone talking. I got my little Crossman
pump action pelic gun. And there's a loaf of bread
sitting on the counter, and I put one pump in
it and I freaking talk on the phone. I shoot,
that loaf of bread went clean through the loaf of bread.
I mean, who'd have thought a loaf of bread wouldn't
stop one pump And it went up and it hit
(27:38):
the window and went one of those diamonds in it.
You know how they get Oh yeah, I was in
there until my cousin bought my parents house.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Did you tell your parents or what?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
They let them figure it out. Oh, they figured it.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I can't believe they didn't kill me.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I can't believe my dad never killed me. My dad
was a saint. He was a good man.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
You're saying he would have been justified.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yes, yeah, I mean I would.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Killed What the hell?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
But this is you know the house, single pane glass right,
not not pressure, you know, doble pain and all that.
So my old timey stuff, but nonetheless a hole in
the window. Until they moved to Florida, we were.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I mean, I know you was what we're talking about.
I wonder if the listeners have ever seen don't do
this in your house or but like, have you seen
what happens when you shoot glass with a BB gun
or apella gun and the shape it makes?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, it makes lemon.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
That's like it's like this cone of glass that comes
out the other side. Yeah, we did it all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
We would find bottles in the woods and we'd get
the bottle and we'd shoot them. We'd break the bottle,
shoot the bottom and we'd make those little diamonds with
one pump.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You know. Yeah, it's the cool thing that is.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's neat man, that was the cool thing you all did.
We've like flat out had BB gun wars.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I never did that. You never did.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Know.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Look, I was like, you know, from age five, like
what are the four rules of gun safety? And you
know we're not oh yeah, she having we're not shooting.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Like we had a minimum, like you could go to
pumps like, oh yeah, pump war.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Man, No to pump war you hey, you know you
get hit.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah. No, we were just out in the out in
the woods like.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
An out and then it was so stupid.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
No, hey, you couldn't shoot above the shoulders. So we're
no head shot, no headshot. No one's wearing like goglins.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
It's a miracle we've been.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
We were talking about hard, hard conversations. We started with
mental ilk. We started with noise, and we started with
buttering bread.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, whatever, you know, and then.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
We've talked about mental illness and now we're proven that
we're all mentally ill.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Here, well, there is a certain level of uh instability
that we each deal.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
With in our no one zero percent crazy right.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
No, No.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
So what I told kJ today was I said, okay,
so we got these red flag laws, so I've got
god knows how many guns, right, not going to say
it because even if I knew how many I had,
I wouldn't have enough.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
More than you need, more than as many as I want.
And I said, well, even if somebody red flagged me. Okay,
so somebody red flags me, they come and they take
all my guns, which I don't even know that I
could find them all. To have somebody take them all?
What stops me from hiring myself? Ultimately? You me, what
(30:35):
is another influence on me? Society? Friends, family?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Where is society and friends and family gone? You know
what happened there?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Well, I mean along those lines. We were kind of
talking about some of the good things that are happening
out there and these groups that are doing a lot
of good things. Obviously, we've had walk to Talk America
on the show, Regal Products making their Cure Me Secure
It Secure Me Occupy as another company that's doing some
really cool technology solutions. Technological solutions for people, whether it's
(31:14):
safety against like bad guys, alerts to the police or whatever,
or it's safety for themselves. There's like a there's a
hold my Guns program, Like, Hey, I'm feeling a little
wonky right now, And there's a bunch of gun stores
that are signed up and they'll accept people's guns and
hold them for them in certain states. There's all kinds
(31:36):
of stuff in it. But here's a lot for the
other guy.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Proberbly child's safe is that no one not There's not
many people out there willing to address that they do
have a problem and that they they are willing to
give those up because they will think I will never
be able to get these back. And it takes someone
in their life, friends or family that says, hey, man,
(31:59):
can we just have a hard conversation. No one's willing
to have those hard conversations, and especially with themselves, because I.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
See it every day.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
We think so highly of ourselves that we're not willing
to have the difficult conversations of you know what, I'm
probably not in the best state of mind.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I need help.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Well, people have always been prideful, right, they always want
to like put on their best whatever, showing their best
foot forward or whatever. But it's even more so with
social media now. Right, it's like the entire thing with
social media, and nobody posts like had a well that's
not true, not nobody. But mostly it's not like we've
(32:38):
had a bad day. They're feeling bad whatever. It's like,
look at me, I went to this other country. I'm
doing this fun thing. You know, I'm crushing it here
and there.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And there's so many people out there who are looking
at that, going dang.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
They got it good.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Why am I such a failure? Like I don't have that?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
And ninety percent of them, the person who posted it
is probably going through some crap too.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Oh yeah, we're all going through crap.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But it's like having those honest conversations with buddies and
like checking in on them. And I think there are
a lot of good organizations out there that it's like
it's like that buddy program, Like they're they're willing to
reach out and to talk, but it takes the person
that is going through it to like.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Be able to look outward and to accept the help. Well,
you know, one thing I found over the year is
just that the person the people that don't do crazy
stuff like commit suicide or mass shootings or or just
anything thing of violence are generally the people that talk
about it with you. They're like, man, totally wanted to
kill myself during that divorce, right, Uh. The guy that
(33:46):
the guy that never says anything about that, those are
the ones, and it's so hard to guard against that
and figure out what's going on. So ultimately there is
there is really almost nothing you It's so almost nothing
that you can do about any of it that you
just have to be we we as normal people, not normal.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I mean, obviously we're not normal.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Look, we're as close to normal as we can. You
have to be constantly aware, and you have to be avoid, avoid,
avoid stuff that looks wrong, and we have to be
aware so that we can we can avoid it. We
have to be aware of what's going on around us,
(34:30):
because man, we're never gonna well.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Christian's also a culture of being able to say, you know,
you do you need help, or you're not feeling great
or whatever. And I'm just talking because I mean, certainly,
perhaps more so on males, guys are like, oh, I
don't want to talk about that. But hopefully that's changing
a little bit. I mean, there seems to be more
(34:54):
coverage of mental health, the importance of mental health and
working on your mental health. It's like it's more for
guys that crossed their legs, see what I mean. See
it's like, yeah, he's got my legs crossed for yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
But that's it's just such a difficult position to be
in because we've we've got to check on our buddies
and know that they're going through it when they're going
through it, and.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Try to walk with them through that.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
All right.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
So this month, in month of December, they popped the
guy down in New Iberia in Louisiana plotting a terror
attack in New Orleans. Right this year we had one
last year. Yeah, this guy's plot an attack.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
What's what does the news do?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
They go down there, they start interviewing people that are
close and close to the area. The one news guy
last the one night, he says, uh, yeah, we were
standing in the area and somebody went in the house
and they got some things, and they came out, and.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
They sped towards us and veered off towards.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Him and his camera. Man, I saw that on the news,
you know, like somebody, this is someone who also a problem, right,
because he's probably involved with this guy he's pissed off about.
He went into the same guy's house that was arrested.
He went in, got some things, came out. But the
news crew was out there doing their thing because they're
interviewing people that live around there and former former classmates
(36:17):
things like that, and they're all saying, yeah, he was
just always a little wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Really, I mean I don't know. I mean, there could
be weird people on your street and they're just weird.
Were dangerous, They're just weird.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, or so he's always been a little wrong.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
So what do you do?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Why the street leave his garage door cracked one foot up?
He's weel like, what what's up with this? It's got
a big cat, you know the big people on my
street would be like, I don't know anything about him.
I think he seems to most grass. I mean like
they wouldn't know if I'm a saint or if I'm
a psychopath.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Do you leave your garage store one foot up?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
No, my my my in laws have nicknames for everybody
on their block, and I think, really, there's a garage
door guy. Yeah, there's all kinds of way.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
We had a guy across the street. We called him
Beep Beep.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
But if every time he pulled, if he pulled out,
he tooted the horn.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Really every time?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
What what's up with that? Every he's doing a safety check?
Horn works? Does he walk around his car too? Remember
teaching they taught you that in like driver's head, he
walk around your car before you go drive. Yeah, that's right,
you know, check the mirrors, check the horn, check the blinkers.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Wells, I noticed that if I park in the front.
I can actually check the lights on my truck now
because I can see him in the window when.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I back in.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
You ever see your rear tail lights or your license
plate light, which you can get pulled over for because
it's technically a violation, And it's.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
A way to see who's driving that car.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
And smell the reefer you've been smoking in there, smoking
the reefer, smoking the reefer speaking of old man noises
looking grass.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, that's what my Harry generation.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
You have it do be in there, he smokes grass.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
What so needless to say, gun control is not the answer.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Insummation. Yeah, is that? Is that? That? That's the nice
ted ted.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Talk gun controls relaxing.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
It's not so.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
So I have a question like how do you how
do you approach and how do you fix the mental issues?
Speaker 4 (38:24):
How do you fix how do you.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Where is the next time on gun Talk Nation where
we solve the country's mental health problem?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I mean, it's so difficult, but it's like organizations like
I think that's a great place to start, like walk
the talk.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
That's I guess that's what I was I was trying
to work at. There's you know, there's a lot of
companies in the gun industry, like manufacturers of products, as
well as nonprofits that are doing a ton of good work,
a ton of very active, actively trying to help and
make things better.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
And I don't think those get talked about. Do you
have some examples, like for the people out there, because
there's a lot of companies that you're like, oh, I
didn't know they do that because they're kind of working
a little bit behind the scenes and they don't brag
on themselves enough.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
So do you have some that, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Mean you've got you know. I was starting to say,
like NSSF has a lot of programs that's kind of
what they do. Project Child Safe, which provides free gunlocks.
So far they've distributed forty million, Wow, gunlocks. Forty million.
That's like a company in itself. Edie Eagle Child Child
(39:34):
Child Friendly Safety Education, you know Edie Eagle gun Safe program,
which is pre K to fourth graders. I taught it
to my kids. I had the DVD I picked up
at the Interati. Really well, they'll get this and they
knew it, and it's like okay, I mean, if you
have guns in your house, you have to teach your
kids about.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
That's a whole other topic that show have.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
To And you also you're like, I have guns on
or every pillow. I hope you don't. If you have kids,
you know, oh they know, Oh they know not to
touch it.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
No, not my kids that I worried about. Friends, kids, friends, Yep.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, there's gun owners care. And then then you have
all these This is a little bit different wrinkle. But
obviously the gun industry super supportive of veterans groups, veterans'
mental health.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Uh does the HAVA thing? I know, yeah, they do that.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
You got honored veterans a field, which is a bunch
of companies and SIGs. One of them is involved in it.
Just all that stuff, right, But I mean, I mean
we can kind of go all over the place. But
I said this would be a random show. I don't.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
I don't think it was very random.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
There was always there was always a driving force down
because mental issues.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
You talk about your old man noises, that all deals
with the mental issuy rhythm.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
So so to summarize, everybody, thanks for listening. Uh, take
your bread out of the toaster oven when you want
to butter it. Yeah, thing for cat scratch fever, watch
out for cats. Maybe don't eat things that are bigger
than your head. Go walk around, try to make yourself
sweat a little bit, play off the sodas, check on
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your buddy, do a little tai chi.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Be honest with yourself and your friends and family.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Wow, all right, that's all we got. Cry again next time.
Thanks for listening, thanks for watching. We'll see you next time.
A gun targ nation
Yeah, Well, if you get the right bullet that doesn't expand,
that heavy two to twenty grain bullet will go clean
through a six by six and hit your cement wall
and probably break something of your ex wife's too.
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This will be a random show. We've got Kevin Jarnagan.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Three random as you get, you'll say random with us two.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
On the couch. That's as random as you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's random to wrap up the year or start the
new year, depending on how you look at you already
something dumb like I burned my hand and on a
toaster oven. But wait, let me tell you how I
did it. So I got the toaster oven and I
got all this toast in there because I'm making breakfast
(01:13):
for the kids and myself. And you know how like
when you want a butter toast, but the butter doesn't
melt and then you just mush the hard butter into
the bread, right, Yeah, So I was like, I'll slice
the butter and I'll put it on the toast and
I'll close up the toaster oven. After it's toasted, give
(01:35):
it a minute, let it soften, easy to spread. But
I didn't bother to take the bread out of the
toaster oven. So I'm trying. I'm trying to reach into
the back of the toaster oven with little pieces of buger.
And guess what happened. I touched the grape. I touched
it into it and yeah, now it's burned. And then
(01:58):
there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Then he continued on, and I'm trying to ow.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, change al I was doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
No, you don't know how bad it is until after
it's done and you're done.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And you're like, she burgs.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, you're like, oh wow, and then you're going man
like all them losing the skin, Yeah, okay, interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Those are smart scars. Oh yeah, well I got one
this morning too. But that's a whole nother cat story.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
So you got scratched by your cat.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
The cats both try to jump up on the counter
at the same time to get their food at their spot,
and they banged off each other. One fell on my
foot slashed.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
My foot open.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So the whole time I'm doing my yoga this morning,
I'm bleeding all over the yoga mat because you know,
I'm older and I bleed like you know, I tear
like a wet paper bag and I bleed like a
stuck pig.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So anyways, that's what you got to see it in
the papyrus.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, you have to feed them separate, you use separate or.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
On the ground.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, while you got to feed them.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I just say you have cats walking around on the
place for you eat.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I say that.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I was like, if you feed them on the counter.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Stillun your room, I have that little work area, not
on the floor.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, that's the difference with cat people and dog people,
Like you wouldn't like be like, hey, dog, jump up
on this counter.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Dogs are disgusting. Cats just put their butthole on everything.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And that's not and they like.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, your cats are kind of outside cats too, but
when they go to the bathroom, they're walking around in
their toilet.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So I shouldn't put their paws in my mouth, that's
what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, and I know you do that. I he does
that show.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
We just jump right in there and didn't we Gosh?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh, I love cats, you know, I always say I
can't I love cats, but I can't eat a whole one.
And and the problem is I hate how much I
love those damn cats.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So now can't they've seen behind the curtain. This is
and cats. That's Chris Thury.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
You know did mention yoga, but.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You're about us gun trader guy.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I know, right, I gotta get more cat.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I will say this, like when you talk about unconventional
shooting positions or getting into a position, like being flexible
and agile enough.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
To get into those positions on.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Is worth it if you do yoga and yoga if
you're not in shape, it's very difficult.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I'll tell you what. I missed it because you know
I was sick for two weeks. I missed it for
two weeks, and when I came back, literally kicked my ass,
just beat me up. Yeah, but I do. I can
tell you this. When we filmed for the NRA and
we were doing the stuff for the new the new
uh ARC Challenge, yep uh doing the stuff around the
(04:47):
barricades and all that positional shooting.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Man, easy getting into positions.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Funny if you if you exercise and you stretch and
all that stuff you you just made make it part
of your lifestyle. You do it daily weekly, you almost
kind of take it for granted. I mean, I just
I just have an expectation that I should be able
to get down and get up off the ground. I
should be able to sit and stand and lay down
(05:15):
and not be like, oh god, oh now, I mean
I get it, people get old and stuff changes. But like,
can I tell you a pet peeve of mine, Yeah,
I don't hear it when you're sitting on an airplane,
And I get it, some people have different various physical abilities.
But when you're sitting on an airplane and the person
(05:36):
behind you grabs your seat to pry themselves out of
the seat instead of just using their legs and just
standing up.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Right, wait until you get to my age, you'll start
noticing it more. I know that Michael's sitting over there
and he's thinking about this. And Michael and I have
had to talk that we're going to start to do
less things and grunt or grown like we willize this
and we're like, like Jesus started.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I'll tell you like, and I look, it happens, right,
It's I think it's the natural progression of things. I mean, now,
it's like, instead of saying I'm gonna go for a run.
It's like I think I'm gonna go for a walk,
Like I'm just gonna I don't you know, it's not
go ambulate because because when I when I do the
whole like and I'm k kJ is a runner, I'm like,
(06:28):
I'm not a runner. I'm not built for this. But
you know, once every few months, I'm like, I'm gonna
be a runner, and then I'll go run two or
three miles and I do like running, and then my
back's like what are you doing? Where my knees are
like what You're doing well?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
And I'm here to tell you that. And I know
that there's some folks watching and they're wondering how this
all relates to everything with don talk Nation. But this
is one hundred percent true. I have been I've been
very fortunate to live a fitness style life because I've
been in tactical operations, law enforcement and culture of working
out the culture of exercise and fitness. However, as a
(07:04):
law enforcement officer, you sit and think about it. You
sit in a car in this position for eight hours
a day. Yeah, man, you lose all flexibility. In a
swat guy, everybody wants to be big in buff and
then you forget about your lower unit and your legs,
and then you put on seventy five pounds of gear
and guns, and you jump out of an assault vehicle
or tactical vehicle, any kind of car, and all of
(07:24):
a sudden, you realize that your legs can't hold all
this stuff up. So as I got older, I started
focusing more on functional fitness and all around fitness. And
I used to do a program called Fit for Duty.
I would teach at the State for you know, once
a year, and it was I talked about parking, parking
further don't look for the closest parking spot, you know,
(07:48):
park further way, don't.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Take the elevator, take the stairs.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
You know, when you mow your yard, mow it with vigor. Yeah,
let's just walk push it like I'm going through the motions,
like push the damn thing, move it, swing it around,
do stuff. Just all the things you could do. Stay
away from sugary sodas.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Just that alone.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I've seen guys that I've worked with lose twenty pounds.
Oh yeah, instantly, just melt it off.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And as I get older, I can tell you this
that it is highly beneficial to me to have been fit,
because when I am knocked down like I had the
cancer and you know, just being sick last week, the
yoga kicked my butt two weeks later because it gets
harder to maintain it and be better.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
My buddy got to get ready.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, my buddy Dave was He's a brilliant guy. He
worked at the biomedical research center in Baton Rouge LSU
thing where they like it's crazy. Their place is crazy.
They have like weighted floors or like the whole room
is like a scale and they're testing you. They're literally
experimenting on people. But he got pulled over by a
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cop and the somehow that he starts chatting up this
cop and the guy's like, yeah, I actually lost like
thirty pounds. He said, I bet you stopped drinking soda.
He goes, you're right, that is how I did it.
But I have a question, Chris, so tactical operation SWAT
team stuff, would you say that? And I'm saying this
as a as a positive, is there a culture of
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keeping each other in check of and maybe in a
cop way, shaming somebody for like, dude, your belly's getting
big or whatever. Like at least, I mean, we could
joke about cops and donuts and stuff, but in that
swat team tactical operation side, like, look, you you go
to the you have a jiu jitsu gym? Is there
a culture of like, yes, And I think there's what
(09:39):
I'm doing friends right here of us doing what I'm
getting at is there's value in that.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And there's certain people in the world that are like,
you shouldn't body shame and you shouldn't do this. I'm like,
I guess again, people with various body types and skills
or whatever. But there is value to go and hey man,
hey bro your brother or hey man, dude, what's up.
(10:07):
I'll get to wait. I'd also, hey, what's up? You
look like you lost some weight. Yeah, I've been working
at it man.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I will say this though, that you two completely failed
me a couple of years ago because I had put
on thirty pounds. It didn't realize it, and then I
saw myself in the camera and I was like, holy crap,
gave up any alcohol, Like I said, I don't drink alcohol.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Anymore, and like I shed forty pounds.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Really, yes, and neither one of you son of a
gun ever said carry it so.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well, it's like you're bulking. You were up going up
a weight class. But there is.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Something to be said for someone just being fat and
happy sometimes.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And we know you Doujo was not happy, so you
have that level. This is the this is the season
of fat and happy.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You can be.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You can be a shape.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yes, rounch and be fit like you do juju constantly.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, so you are. It's so different.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
kJ think about think about think about the guy that
does nothing, that puts on forty pounds.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes, no, I do do anything else.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I do agree with the difference. And yes we did
fail you, but you did take it to the extreme
because you are no fun because you don't drink. I
know I don't and I just just the last two
weeks ago, three weeks ago, it's been now I've been
I just cut out alcohol during the week because I
was just getting that comfort drink in Green Knight, having
(11:29):
that comfort drinking. Sometimes I'm gonna get another finger, not two,
but i'ma have one more.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Right, because it's tasted so good and it felt so good.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Well, you know I've already lost one pounds.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
One tastes like two and two tastes like four. You're like,
oh that was quick, that was just delicious.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
But I've already lost eight pounds. Yeah, and I quit
dipping my hand in the candy bowl in the in
the kitchen every day. Now I'm not saying I don't
have a piece of candy, but I quit doing it
every day.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well, you know what.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But on the other end of this, on the other
end of this, we have students come here that are
are are not in the shape that we would like
to see them in, and then something happens and maybe
it spurs like a little thought like I should do
this better. Chris will write them a little bit, which
is good. But these guys are shooters like you.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Look at Mitch.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Mitch the other day, he came to a class the
day after he got home, has a heart attack.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Like.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Dighes on the table, basically he died, and then jumps
back in like, I guarantee you the next class week
post he will be in it and he will be
happy to do it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And he already told me, He's already texted me and said,
can't wait for the ar class. And I'm thinking, Mitch,
you're glutting for punishment. But he's lost already like forty pounds.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yeah, just a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But you but he's taking those for that life of abundance. Man.
I love to drink and I love to ye, but
I also love to shoot and compete, and I know
that if my body can't do it, then what can
I do? And what's going to happen to me?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, I mean when we talk about like self defense,
concealed carry, being prepared, being aware and all this stuff,
and we like to talk about well, you know, the
P three sixty five holds it's so little and it
holds twelve rounds and this nine millimeters load is hollow
point and expands this and this. You know, what would
also be good is be able to run, be able
(13:28):
to you know, like you know, I mean fight, I guess,
but like just have the physical ability to you know,
maybe do certain things because we we get wrapped up
on the gear, but also your quality of life. This look,
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to continue this old man grunt talk. Welcome back to
old man grunt talk. So we're going to go back
(16:19):
to this. At the break, Michael's talking about, you know,
and Chris a conscious effort to not do the old
man grunt, Yeah, which I guess is like maybe you
know it's a thing. It is. If you're twenty years old,
you hop into your lifted truck and you don't grunt.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But then when you're fifty six you.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Hop into your not lifted truck. Yeah, you don't hop,
you climb in there and you grunt.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Can I just say, can we make a conscious effort
not to make old man noises?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Period?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh it's not gonna happen. Oh that's not that's been
my life. That's not old man thing.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
That's old man noises. That's Chris need like a god
that that? Is that a nervous thing? Or is it?
Does he have a does he need to sign you
plast or not?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It's not I Coul's not rocket right here. If you like,
I'll do that instead. It's more cool, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
No, get some floonaise or something.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
No, you don't ever want.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
To be addicted to that stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Bad.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I heard I've heard people getting addicted to the flow.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I did promise the people that we would talk about
gun things.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
But flown aise is like pressing a trigger, like we
need to be addicted.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Timmy goes, if there's a trigger on, we'll make a
or what do you say if it has a trigger. Well,
we're thinking about making one for it. Yeah, windex bottle whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Well, and there's something that that's been been bothering me,
is uh with the last couple of mass shootings we had,
you know, and I know that this all timely stuff,
and it continues and carries on, and I'm sure it's
going to carry on through twenty six. Is everybody wants
new gun control laws when mental health and societal influence
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is really the bigger deal.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Well, it's easier to address the gun that it is
mental health because we like to dance around.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
They're just une.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
We're fat, right or crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Exactly, But those are the hard like literally, there are
people who are like, you can't tell someone they're crazy.
That's their reality. I'm sorry, but you know some people
are fat.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yes, yes, and some people that's there.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
There, that's their their lifestyle, their body type. No, it's
it's a medical diagnosis.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You do realize your bones are not growing. Your your
bones are not growing.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It's you. Your your frame is what your frame is.
My my medical chart every year when I go in
and it says obese, and I think to myself, I'm
gonna I'm gonna punch them.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I was gonna say I'm gonna kill somebody.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
No, I'm not say that hard that I'm gonna punch
somebody in the face.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
If they call me obeste again, they're fat shamed.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Did they say obeste or obese? I prefer saying obese.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, I thought it was really inappropriate when the nurse said, hey, fatty, yeah,
that's a little too far.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
We're not just mental issue.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah we're not.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
We avoid it, yeah, we we would rather avoid it
and not dedicate the resources.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Where did all the mental asylums go?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Like? Are those we can't say stuff like that. I
don't know. I'm not old enough to really remember this,
but I know Tom Gresham has said that the movie
One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest with Jack Nole, Yes,
it painted a picture of mental asylums in such a
horrible light that they really like they It was kind
of a a catalyst to be like, you know, we
(19:43):
don't need to put people in mental hospitals, right And
I don't know, I mean, somebody could be listening to
Ryan you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
But I'm just kind of like, this is what I understand.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well and and part our producer editor Michael Funding was
cut for the mental asylums in the night teen eighties. Yeah,
they cut that out, so we stopped treating it. In
the eighties, when did everything start taking off? Like as
far as like mass shootings and mental there's a.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Lot of them.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
There's I mean, it's not it's a really complicated issue
right there.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I think there's a movie or a book or something.
They walk amongst us. Well, when there's nowhere to put them,
they do walk amongst us. Because as a law enforcement officer,
I can tell you that there were areas where that's
where the mental health people would they would subsidize these
people so they could have a life on their own.
You know, I've told you guys the stories about almost
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shooting you know, a guy and I didn't know he was.
I didn't know he was. He was not really wrong,
I mean, and you know, he was just he was there.
He was put there. And then then I found out
there was more people in that area. So then you know,
you start learning where these people are at and you
can deal with them differently. However, I had to deal
(20:55):
with them in a professional fashion. But think about what
society does society doesn't know. They don't look at you
and identify it. They don't look at that person identify them.
But yeah, that's the real things. We don't address it.
I'm concerned about it. I'm also concerned about the idea
that the family structure, the the entitlement thing.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
It's I'm entitled.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I'm entitled. Nobody's dad is kicking their butts anymore. I
didn't have to beat my kids, but I was hard
on them, and I really, well, no, you're not necessarily
hard on them. You held them to a standard.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Well, letting somebody do anything they want and be anything
they want is not loving them. Like saying, you know,
you can you can eat you know, twinkies every single
day because that's what they like and that's what they
want to do is not loving them. Letting your kid
play video games for eight hours a day is not
loving them because so they like playing video games. That's
(21:51):
not helping. Then I was up in the long road.
It's about that, you know, It's like all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Well, because when we were young, it was like grab
your bb gun, go outside and just enjoy the outdoors,
shoot things, shoot.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Things like and that it was everything was on the table.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Maybe not everything, but I.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Remember I love that. When we were up at Black
Hills Ammunition filming with Jeff Hoffman who owns it, and
he's I want to say, he grew up there in
that South Dakota area in Rapid City, and we were
talking about him growing up and going outside and shooting guns.
And he says, you know, I don't think there was
a fence post in Rapid City that didn't have a
(22:34):
Jeff Hoffman bebe in it just going there. And that's true.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Like those days, those days of letting kids out and
letting them run around with a red Rider, those days
are pretty much gone.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Because Lord help you.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
If you see like a mom just driving through the
neighborhood and sees my kid walking her out around the
street with a red.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Rider in your yard.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
If they saw saw your kid out front with a
BB gun in the yard, somebody would.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Call the cops. Yes.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Now, my neighbors that I know right around me, they
wouldn't think twice about it.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
No. Real when they call you and you say, you say,
is he aware of his target and his backstock?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Yeah? Has he pointed anything?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Is he is he shooting people with it? Or is
he just shooting trees.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
No, actually he's just carrying it around in the front yard. Okay,
well call us when he does something.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
That's right, Yeah, if he disobeys any of those forty
I mean gun safety.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I think I told this story in the past, but
I mean, obviously I grew up kind of in a
like a somewhat gunny household. I mean somewhat somewhat. I
had a ten meter air gun range down the hallway
of our house because we had this long hallway, almost
a shotgun house kind of deal. And I had a
box filled with newspaper, and I think I could do
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seven or eight pumps. This wasn't even a BB gun.
This is a pellet gun. Yeah, and I could, uh,
and I close the door behind it, so it's sort
of an extra backstop. But I mean I would lay
down prone in the hallway.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
The old Crossman seven sixty.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, I know, and shoot and shoot down the hallway
and I would yell. I would yell range his hot
and going on everything knew not step out of the hallway. Yeah,
and I would shoot in the house. It wasn't even
we didn't have basements in Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, that is jil shooting my basement did the same thing,
but we had basements. Yeah, yeah, I always still do.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I had a camera guy. We had a camera guy
who was a gun guy. Now he was single, live
by himself, owned his house, but he had a bullet
trap and he would shoot his nine millimeter in his house.
What he goes, No, I up shoot with a silencer.
I'm like, bro, Still, I don't shoot a lot, but
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you know, sometimes you just want to shoot a little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Can I tell you an adult story about shooting in
the basement? Oh, boysonic loads. Trying to get the velocities,
and I'm checking velocities, and I used to shoot into
us a six by six. I would just shoot these
subtimes into it and uh.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
A six by six What a piece of wood because
it would just catch it.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Now, I was trying to get velocity and I would
just shoot across.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well, if you get the right bullet that doesn't expand,
that heavy two twenty grain bullet will go clean through
a six by six and hit your cement wall and
probably break something of your ex wife's too.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
They're a keyword in the XX. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny
thing you bring that up. I do. I literally had
a dream last night about somebody wanting to show me
how this pellet gun is is really cool and powerful,
and they shot it at my wooden fence and as
they're doing that, I'm going, don't do that. And it
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goes through the wooden fence and it goes into my
house like which as a hole in my siding. And
because I've done that too, I've this is. So I
had the whole beat, you know, hell a gun down
the hall story. So as an adult, in my first
hat one, I guess one of my first houses I owned,
I kind of did the same thing. I was like,
I made a box, filled it with newspaper. I put
(26:19):
it outside up against the shed where I've got my
lawnmower and stuff. Now, this was a one pump what
do you call that? A brick kind of a brake barrel,
one pump And I did not know how powerful that
was straight and I was, yeah, I was out ten
to fifteen yards away. I shoot and I hear and
(26:44):
I'm like, what that it went through? But this is
like stacked newspaper went through that went through the shed,
bounced around in there. You know, I don't know if
you hit my lawnmower or whatever. But I was like, oh, oh,
I did holes inside real.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Remember remember when phones were on cords. Yeah, you had
to sit by the phone when you talked on.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It, like a landline.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I thought you were talking about like the cell phone
and the bag phone.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh no, No, I was talking about real Okay, all right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I'm sitting on that. I'm sitting on a little counter
next to the phone talking. I got my little Crossman
pump action pelic gun. And there's a loaf of bread
sitting on the counter, and I put one pump in
it and I freaking talk on the phone. I shoot,
that loaf of bread went clean through the loaf of bread.
I mean, who'd have thought a loaf of bread wouldn't
stop one pump And it went up and it hit
(27:38):
the window and went one of those diamonds in it.
You know how they get Oh yeah, I was in
there until my cousin bought my parents house.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Did you tell your parents or what?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
They let them figure it out. Oh, they figured it.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I can't believe they didn't kill me.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I can't believe my dad never killed me. My dad
was a saint. He was a good man.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
You're saying he would have been justified.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yes, yeah, I mean I would.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Killed What the hell?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
But this is you know the house, single pane glass right,
not not pressure, you know, doble pain and all that.
So my old timey stuff, but nonetheless a hole in
the window. Until they moved to Florida, we were.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I mean, I know you was what we're talking about.
I wonder if the listeners have ever seen don't do
this in your house or but like, have you seen
what happens when you shoot glass with a BB gun
or apella gun and the shape it makes?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, it makes lemon.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
That's like it's like this cone of glass that comes
out the other side. Yeah, we did it all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
We would find bottles in the woods and we'd get
the bottle and we'd shoot them. We'd break the bottle,
shoot the bottom and we'd make those little diamonds with
one pump.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You know. Yeah, it's the cool thing that is.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's neat man, that was the cool thing you all did.
We've like flat out had BB gun wars.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I never did that. You never did.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Know.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Look, I was like, you know, from age five, like
what are the four rules of gun safety? And you
know we're not oh yeah, she having we're not shooting.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Like we had a minimum, like you could go to
pumps like, oh yeah, pump war.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Man, No to pump war you hey, you know you
get hit.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah. No, we were just out in the out in
the woods like.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
An out and then it was so stupid.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
No, hey, you couldn't shoot above the shoulders. So we're
no head shot, no headshot. No one's wearing like goglins.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
It's a miracle we've been.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
We were talking about hard, hard conversations. We started with
mental ilk. We started with noise, and we started with
buttering bread.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, whatever, you know, and then.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
We've talked about mental illness and now we're proven that
we're all mentally ill.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Here, well, there is a certain level of uh instability
that we each deal.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
With in our no one zero percent crazy right.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
No, No.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
So what I told kJ today was I said, okay,
so we got these red flag laws, so I've got
god knows how many guns, right, not going to say
it because even if I knew how many I had,
I wouldn't have enough.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
More than you need, more than as many as I want.
And I said, well, even if somebody red flagged me. Okay,
so somebody red flags me, they come and they take
all my guns, which I don't even know that I
could find them all. To have somebody take them all?
What stops me from hiring myself? Ultimately? You me, what
(30:35):
is another influence on me? Society? Friends, family?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Where is society and friends and family gone? You know
what happened there?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Well, I mean along those lines. We were kind of
talking about some of the good things that are happening
out there and these groups that are doing a lot
of good things. Obviously, we've had walk to Talk America
on the show, Regal Products making their Cure Me Secure
It Secure Me Occupy as another company that's doing some
really cool technology solutions. Technological solutions for people, whether it's
(31:14):
safety against like bad guys, alerts to the police or whatever,
or it's safety for themselves. There's like a there's a
hold my Guns program, Like, Hey, I'm feeling a little
wonky right now, And there's a bunch of gun stores
that are signed up and they'll accept people's guns and
hold them for them in certain states. There's all kinds
(31:36):
of stuff in it. But here's a lot for the
other guy.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Proberbly child's safe is that no one not There's not
many people out there willing to address that they do
have a problem and that they they are willing to
give those up because they will think I will never
be able to get these back. And it takes someone
in their life, friends or family that says, hey, man,
(31:59):
can we just have a hard conversation. No one's willing
to have those hard conversations, and especially with themselves, because I.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
See it every day.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
We think so highly of ourselves that we're not willing
to have the difficult conversations of you know what, I'm
probably not in the best state of mind.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I need help.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Well, people have always been prideful, right, they always want
to like put on their best whatever, showing their best
foot forward or whatever. But it's even more so with
social media now. Right, it's like the entire thing with
social media, and nobody posts like had a well that's
not true, not nobody. But mostly it's not like we've
(32:38):
had a bad day. They're feeling bad whatever. It's like,
look at me, I went to this other country. I'm
doing this fun thing. You know, I'm crushing it here
and there.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And there's so many people out there who are looking
at that, going dang.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
They got it good.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Why am I such a failure? Like I don't have that?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
And ninety percent of them, the person who posted it
is probably going through some crap too.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Oh yeah, we're all going through crap.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But it's like having those honest conversations with buddies and
like checking in on them. And I think there are
a lot of good organizations out there that it's like
it's like that buddy program, Like they're they're willing to
reach out and to talk, but it takes the person
that is going through it to like.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Be able to look outward and to accept the help. Well,
you know, one thing I found over the year is
just that the person the people that don't do crazy
stuff like commit suicide or mass shootings or or just
anything thing of violence are generally the people that talk
about it with you. They're like, man, totally wanted to
kill myself during that divorce, right, Uh. The guy that
(33:46):
the guy that never says anything about that, those are
the ones, and it's so hard to guard against that
and figure out what's going on. So ultimately there is
there is really almost nothing you It's so almost nothing
that you can do about any of it that you
just have to be we we as normal people, not normal.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I mean, obviously we're not normal.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Look, we're as close to normal as we can. You
have to be constantly aware, and you have to be avoid, avoid,
avoid stuff that looks wrong, and we have to be
aware so that we can we can avoid it. We
have to be aware of what's going on around us,
(34:30):
because man, we're never gonna well.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Christian's also a culture of being able to say, you know,
you do you need help, or you're not feeling great
or whatever. And I'm just talking because I mean, certainly,
perhaps more so on males, guys are like, oh, I
don't want to talk about that. But hopefully that's changing
a little bit. I mean, there seems to be more
(34:54):
coverage of mental health, the importance of mental health and
working on your mental health. It's like it's more for
guys that crossed their legs, see what I mean. See
it's like, yeah, he's got my legs crossed for yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
But that's it's just such a difficult position to be
in because we've we've got to check on our buddies
and know that they're going through it when they're going
through it, and.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Try to walk with them through that.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
All right.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
So this month, in month of December, they popped the
guy down in New Iberia in Louisiana plotting a terror
attack in New Orleans. Right this year we had one
last year. Yeah, this guy's plot an attack.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
What's what does the news do?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
They go down there, they start interviewing people that are
close and close to the area. The one news guy
last the one night, he says, uh, yeah, we were
standing in the area and somebody went in the house
and they got some things, and they came out, and.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
They sped towards us and veered off towards.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Him and his camera. Man, I saw that on the news,
you know, like somebody, this is someone who also a problem, right,
because he's probably involved with this guy he's pissed off about.
He went into the same guy's house that was arrested.
He went in, got some things, came out. But the
news crew was out there doing their thing because they're
interviewing people that live around there and former former classmates
(36:17):
things like that, and they're all saying, yeah, he was
just always a little wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Really, I mean I don't know. I mean, there could
be weird people on your street and they're just weird.
Were dangerous, They're just weird.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, or so he's always been a little wrong.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
So what do you do?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Why the street leave his garage door cracked one foot up?
He's weel like, what what's up with this? It's got
a big cat, you know the big people on my
street would be like, I don't know anything about him.
I think he seems to most grass. I mean like
they wouldn't know if I'm a saint or if I'm
a psychopath.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Do you leave your garage store one foot up?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
No, my my my in laws have nicknames for everybody
on their block, and I think, really, there's a garage
door guy. Yeah, there's all kinds of way.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
We had a guy across the street. We called him
Beep Beep.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
But if every time he pulled, if he pulled out,
he tooted the horn.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Really every time?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
What what's up with that? Every he's doing a safety check?
Horn works? Does he walk around his car too? Remember
teaching they taught you that in like driver's head, he
walk around your car before you go drive. Yeah, that's right,
you know, check the mirrors, check the horn, check the blinkers.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Wells, I noticed that if I park in the front.
I can actually check the lights on my truck now
because I can see him in the window when.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I back in.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
You ever see your rear tail lights or your license
plate light, which you can get pulled over for because
it's technically a violation, And it's.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
A way to see who's driving that car.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
And smell the reefer you've been smoking in there, smoking
the reefer, smoking the reefer speaking of old man noises
looking grass.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, that's what my Harry generation.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
You have it do be in there, he smokes grass.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
What so needless to say, gun control is not the answer.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Insummation. Yeah, is that? Is that? That? That's the nice
ted ted.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Talk gun controls relaxing.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
It's not so.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
So I have a question like how do you how
do you approach and how do you fix the mental issues?
Speaker 4 (38:24):
How do you fix how do you.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Where is the next time on gun Talk Nation where
we solve the country's mental health problem?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I mean, it's so difficult, but it's like organizations like
I think that's a great place to start, like walk
the talk.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
That's I guess that's what I was I was trying
to work at. There's you know, there's a lot of
companies in the gun industry, like manufacturers of products, as
well as nonprofits that are doing a ton of good work,
a ton of very active, actively trying to help and
make things better.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
And I don't think those get talked about. Do you
have some examples, like for the people out there, because
there's a lot of companies that you're like, oh, I
didn't know they do that because they're kind of working
a little bit behind the scenes and they don't brag
on themselves enough.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
So do you have some that, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Mean you've got you know. I was starting to say,
like NSSF has a lot of programs that's kind of
what they do. Project Child Safe, which provides free gunlocks.
So far they've distributed forty million, Wow, gunlocks. Forty million.
That's like a company in itself. Edie Eagle Child Child
(39:34):
Child Friendly Safety Education, you know Edie Eagle gun Safe program,
which is pre K to fourth graders. I taught it
to my kids. I had the DVD I picked up
at the Interati. Really well, they'll get this and they
knew it, and it's like okay, I mean, if you
have guns in your house, you have to teach your
kids about.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
That's a whole other topic that show have.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
To And you also you're like, I have guns on
or every pillow. I hope you don't. If you have kids,
you know, oh they know, Oh they know not to
touch it.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
No, not my kids that I worried about. Friends, kids, friends, Yep.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, there's gun owners care. And then then you have
all these This is a little bit different wrinkle. But
obviously the gun industry super supportive of veterans groups, veterans'
mental health.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Uh does the HAVA thing? I know, yeah, they do that.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
You got honored veterans a field, which is a bunch
of companies and SIGs. One of them is involved in it.
Just all that stuff, right, But I mean, I mean
we can kind of go all over the place. But
I said this would be a random show. I don't.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
I don't think it was very random.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
There was always there was always a driving force down
because mental issues.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
You talk about your old man noises, that all deals
with the mental issuy rhythm.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
So so to summarize, everybody, thanks for listening. Uh, take
your bread out of the toaster oven when you want
to butter it. Yeah, thing for cat scratch fever, watch
out for cats. Maybe don't eat things that are bigger
than your head. Go walk around, try to make yourself
sweat a little bit, play off the sodas, check on
(41:13):
your buddy, do a little tai chi.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Be honest with yourself and your friends and family.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Wow, all right, that's all we got. Cry again next time.
Thanks for listening, thanks for watching. We'll see you next time.
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