January 13, 2025 • 37 mins
What happens when KJ goes on the road with Ryan Gresham? A lot of gear discussion is ramping up on the road when headed to a cow elk hunt in New Mexico—KJ and Ryan detail what is needed to make this trip successful.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Gun Talk Hunt on the road.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I don't I can see the comments. Now pull on
a second. I'm gonna fix it.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Were you not buckle?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I was in the wrong buckle?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Okay, this Gun Talk Hunt.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Ryan likes the buckle of seat pel wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hey, I'm kJ dedicated lifelong hunter here. If you've got
an interest in all things hunting, you're in the right spot.
Whether chasing quill across the plains of Oklahoma or in
pursuit of belk in the back country of British Columbia,
you'll always find me on the hunt. This episode of
Gun Talk Hunt is brought to you by Silencer Central,
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Ruger and Range Ready Training.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
All right, on this gun Talk Hunt, we've got Ryan
Gresha Boss. That's me, and then we've got Rob Posey
in the back. Who's gonna be chiming in to what's
your role here? Hired hand hunter.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
But he's the guns, he's the gun bearer, he's the gun,
he's the shirt. But he didn't know he thought he's honey.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Oh my gosh, that's how this trump is gone.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Said, I got up at three a m. This morning.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yep, man.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
We picked Rob up in Shreveport.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
He was standing by the road with his uh guy
who's I was like, that must be.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Our guy, Hey, pick your buck.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
He looks brisk, but uh No, we're heading out to
New Mexico with Larry Larry.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Are we just gonna call him Larry the Outfitter? Yah,
Larry the outfitter and gonna go on a meeting?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Now we should we should talk about how this hunt
come to keep. Yeah, because it's kind of hunting can
be weird. It's like a secret society.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
My wife thinks it's a secret society. It is like, Hey,
your buddy Dave has honey property. Why don't you just
go hot with Dave. I'm like, well, then I'd have
to ask him.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
There's a whole culture there, and then I'd have to
owe him a favor maybe, And if I came into
this hunting land, then he would get to come on
my hunting land, and maybe I don't really want that,
but I like Dave's land, so.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Maybe I should ask him. But no, this all came
about from Ben Fob of Roaming Shot.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Range, So either he gets credit or blamed defend how
this goes.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, So I guess the next episode will be the
title will either be way to go Ben or scream
Ben a rowing shot?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Who know?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So Ryan kind of thought, Hey, let's go out, let's
test a new cartridge.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, the seven millimeters backcountry brand new, brand new, I
mean fresh off the streets. It dropped on the seventh
of the year twenty twenty five January of our dear Lord.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I see you're speaking old English, now I am.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I think that's what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
This is old Testamy kJ just watch out? Yeah that
you thought that kJ meant Pete James Kevin Jarnigan. But
so he said, let's go on a meat hunt. And
so I'm like, well, yes, I'm all in. And hopefully
when we return we get done early because I do.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Have I do have the good luck em and ms.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Do people know about the M and ms?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
They've got any Most people know that I get a
bag of em and m's.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
What kind of eminem's peanut butter and ms?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
All right?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
And what are the rules of the M and M?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
The rules of the eminem's are you buy them before
the hunt, You carry them with you at all times,
like in your pack. You do not eat them until
the hunt is successful.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And if the hunt is not successful, you have to
throw them away.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh, an unopened bag of peanut butter m and ms.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Ye, usually they're melted, that crushed north home. Yeah, no,
you gotta get rid of them, get that bad ju
chuo off of them.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I don't know when that happened. I think it all had.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It all happened around a hunt where the whole season
was kind of a kind of a really crappy year.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Oh we did that last year. That was last year.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Oh yeah, we talked out a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
We could We could talk about el Khontz last year.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
That's his elk hut. We did talk about that.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
But it all comes around to testing nude product. And
I swear there is not a hunt that Ryan or
I go on where it's like, hey.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
We're using only our stuff, like it ably starts out, well,
sometimes it starts out like, dude, let's just go make
a hunt.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Just a fun thing, No, not a work. We just
we'll just go. That lasts about five seconds.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Five second that you're like, you know what we could use.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, there's a new thing.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Let's see if Federals will send us seven millimeters back country?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, or like what will normally happen is you plan
this hunt like that's.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
How the Kodiak trip came about. That's right. It was.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I was like, I want to go to Kodiak. I
want to whack some blacktails. And I happen to mention
it to our buddy and he goes, hey, I want
in on that, right, And no, it's not a work thing.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I just want to go do it. It turns into
a work thing.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So now we have the seven back country, which it's
so here's what it reminds me of. It reminds me
of what Sig Sour is doing with the two seven
seven sig Fury really high.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Pressurized round, correct, right, that's kind of that.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Just yeah, So that's what you guys are gonna start seeing.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And that's gonna be like the changes in rifle like
consumer grade like hunting rifle ammunition. Is the case technology
is different, which for us, for us, you know, ballistic.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Retards, I'm the ladder.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
It's uh, it's basically the case technology.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You can load it higher pressures, yeah, and therefore get a.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Bullet performance that you couldn't get before out of the
same type of case.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So so yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Seven millimere back country give us the beats on it.
Here's here's kind of what you need to know. It's
designed for as it sounds, backcountry Western hunting.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
A lot of people are running.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Shorter burrel guns because they're running suppressed guns. So this
is designed around a twenty inch barrel. Obviously it'll work
in shorter and longer barrels, but yeah, optimized for that
benchmark is a twenty inch barrel. One hundred and seventy
green bullet going three thousand feet per second is kind
of the benchmark that they were trying to hit.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
That checks out, by the way, like one hundred percent
checks out.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
We were getting consistent. Now here's the other thing with
these hunts.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
We don't always get the first like what that is
going out to the.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Pubble, we get lot zero, yeah or negative one.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I think we got maybe all hundred rounds of this stuff.
Maybe not even that maybe not yeah, not of the
same grain. We got some one hundred and fifty five
grade turpial ascents, then some one seventy grain barns, and
for this hunt, we're shooting the federal premium one hundred
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and seventy grade terminal ascent.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Correct, Yeah, those are great bullets. So they've let me
just I'll kind of run you down the loads they've got.
It's from one fifty five to one ninety five grade
bullets you've got, you've got terminal ascent in one hundred
and fifty five, one hundred and seventy grade. You've got
the Burger Relait one hundred ninety five grade. We'll come
back to that because that one's kind of really cool. Yeah,
Barnes l Rex one hundred and sixty eighth grade, that's interesting,
(07:44):
fusion tipped one seventy five grain, okay, And so like
the one ninety five, I particularly think it's kind of
fun because it is a point seventy five to five
ballistic coefficient. Wow, it's super long, so and I'm luck
to win real long.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So I bet that's what most backcountry hunters will probably
end up going with. The one fifty five Really intrades.
I mean, we were getting speeds of like three pretty
consistent three thousand and eighty eight out of almost thirty
one hundred, almost thirty one hundred out of a Christiansen
arms Ridge line.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I think that's the ridgeline fft. Is that right? They?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, and uh, and we've got it suppressed.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It is suppressed Oh my gosh, so we shot I've
shot it suppressed and unsuppressed. You will want to suppress
this thing. I mean, that's the whole reason behind the
hunting with a shorter barrel, so you can suppress it.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I mean, when it's going, when it's a seven millimeter
one hundred seventy grade going that fast, it's a magnum.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
They don't call it a magnum of people. It's kind
of funny if you think about it. They've gotten away
from calling everything magnums.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, that was like a trend in the seventies, eighties, nineties,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
So do you think the guys that like, really love
recoil they're too ashamed to get something called the seven
mm backcountry because they really want the rum.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
They want the wrong they'll have magnum.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It won't kill if it ain't got magnum in the name.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
That's the same guys that go to the dollar stores
and buy the really big condoms. It's the same guy
he really doesn't need the really the magnums.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I think that's more than you were kicking up the
girl who's working the cash crash register.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's what that is. But uh yeah, so we're gonna
chest it out. We're gonna so and we If you're
hearing road noise, we are.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
We're on the road.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
We're on a sixteen hour or so drive out to
New Mexico.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I won't let these guys drive. I mean we offered,
they offered, They offered. Immediately Rob got in the truck
and he was like, hey, can I drive like I'd
rather you not.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I know how it is. I've written with you on
enough trips.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I'm little little bit o c D about driving like
I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I like it, Like, as long as you don't mind,
and you're not fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
No, no, man, there's I don't think there's been really
any time that I've really fallen asleep driving.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I don't think, not really.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I remember I did take a nap in a field
one time, apparently because I woke up.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
You did, I did.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I didn't fall asleep on the interstate. I wouldn't recommend
it while you're driving. No, no, no, And it was
I was not drinking, and it wasn't nighttime.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It was four pm. Really, yes, it was like in
the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, so we are, we are, okay, I'm getting calls
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's a normal, normal drive.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You guys have to put up with a little background noise. Yeah,
there's just that studio quality.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
No huh.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
But before we get into that, let's talk about weather
and the pressures. I want to get to a little
bit more of the backcountry cartridge, uh, and what Federal's doing.
And one of the biggest questions I have, and I
answered it a week ago on the podcast, is and
I think I need to restate it and readdress it.
(11:11):
This can the seven millimeters back country be reloaded? So
all that is going to come up on the other side.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
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Speaker 1 (12:32):
All right, we're back. We're gun Talk Hunt on the
road with headhunch.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Oh CEO Ryan Gresham and host of gun Talk Nation
and Rob Posey, who is designated Gunman.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah he's he's just shoot. What's funny is he's.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
A wing man.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, I mean if he can spot elkraally good, I'm
all for it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But ye, there's a out.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, but so far I'm the only one spotting animals
on this trend.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Oh, let me tell you guys about riding with kJ
kJ likes to drive. He also likes to spot game
out the window so he doesn't look at the road
as much as maybe one mite when they're driving or
what it should one should when they're going seventy five
down the down the road. Yeah, but he's like hog,
oh kyody, oh deer.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But eyes are tuned in and I gets hunting seats feeder.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, dude, as soon as you see a feeder liked.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It, You're like, hmm, you're checking around the feeder.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You're checking ryot thank Riot banks. I wonder if I
could hunt that. Oh, that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Every time I'm like.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Dude, or you say or you say, how would I
hunt that?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
What wind is that set up for? Where's the guy
walking in? Where's his tree? And where's his exit points?
That's what I'm sorrying.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Everybody listens to this does that. They're like, man, I
bet they got some deer in there.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh yeah, you know they do. But yeah, it's New
Seventh back country. We're heading left to New Mexico. So
if you hear road noise.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
That's that's the open roads. We're in West Texas now,
where my truck is not used to going this far west,
so I'm having to fight it a little bit. From
turning around to southwestern Oklahoma. Moves, but uh, we're heading out.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
We're gonna go Kyle Kyle el hunting.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Hopefully we'll get to come back and we'll shoot some uh.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And I've got some breaking news that I'm gonna share
with the guys uhh that they don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
They probably know, but I kind of confirmed it just
now with Reed Timber uh super duper weather man uh
on the way supposedly on our way back in the
Dallas area, up to twelve inches of snow like gosh.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So who likes who wants to go to Houston?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Seriously, well just knowing Dallas say, it's so bad if
you're down in Key West.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Right, but I saw around two potential two inches around
southwestern Oklahoma?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Really, which you like?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I love for coyote, for coyote and honey.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
If you are a kiostereo man, cold weather and coyotes
and especially snow like man.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And if if it's freezing rain a little bit, it's
so good. It's so good.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
They're not so hungry, and they will come to anything.
You could probably fart.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
In the wind and they will, they will come looking
for what's what's smelling good?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I just want to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I know, it's like that maybe they want to get warm.
I don't know, but we're out. We're gonna go shoot
the Seventh back Country. Ryan.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Here's my question, yep, before and you may know the answer,
but before I like kind of divulge a little bit
on what I was told by Eric Beller. Would you
think that the Seventh back Country would be reloadable?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Now, this is a peak alloy CA Yeah, a different
type of case.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So it is peak alloy case technology and it is
and I hope I'm saying this right. It is steelcase.
But but it's not steelcase like cheap Russian Ammo steelcase Sammo. Right, yeah,
so you know, but I mean we've had this discussion.
(16:24):
I think Chris was like, but you can't reload it, right,
And I was like, we need to confirm that.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So what's the verdict that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
You are going to be able to reload this?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Do you have to do something special with the case.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
It does not sound like an at all. When talking
with Harriic Miller, which I was a little shocked, I
was going to go, no, it's not relable. Now I imagine
the powder that they are using is kind of a
proprietary powder that they have, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
If like you're what reloading powder they would suggest, But
according to him, they're going to have load data that
you're going to be able to load your own.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So in my.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Mind that makes the seven em back country way more attractive.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Then let's say a two seven to seven sake fury
because there is a two piece space.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, and I don't know if that's reloadable or not.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
It's not sure. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Because the two piece case in in a pistol ambo.
I believe that that was one thing they said, can
you really reloaded a lot of times because it was
different instruction? But you know what I worry about pressures
the two piece case. Now we're just gonna get into
guessing and conjecture. Yes, but I think the two piece
is a different animal because you've got the back of
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it is made of something. That's why it's two piece.
It's I believe that's why it superhandle the pressures.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
I probably calls out in tellble get oh, Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
What what is your strategy going into this high?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Don't miss that's the strategy. Don't miss the well the
large five hundred pound critter. Right, which can be done.
I've tested. This is possible to miss it elk standing
off hand at one hundred standing offhand on one hundred yards,
it is possible. You're like, it's a hundred yards chip shot.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I don't need to get a good rest. I'm not
gonna do that.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
You guys might be doing the other thing of like, uh,
are you gonna shoot? I'm gonna be like, get you
out a windsock.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
KJ get over here and let me use your back
as a rest for my I've killed this gap right here, Hey.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Just get out a second range finder.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I want to get I want to plumbob this thing
and make sure everything are perfect.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Well, there's something to building a platform, and especially for
hunts that you pay for, Like, right, this is this
is not.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Us like going out and doing a DIY. This is
we are paying an outfitter to go get a cow out.
This is a meat hunt for us.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It's definitely a meating hunt. No, but that's something that
you and I have talked about.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And when it comes to hunting, I guess it just
depends on the type of hunting. Right, If you're sitting
in a box blind over a feeder. Then you see
a white tail walk into the field and you watch
him walk in.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You see him and.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
You could tell by a deer's mannerisms of like is
he spooked or is he totally chill? And you have
all the time in the world when you're spotting stalking
and like that was my situation on that hunt last year.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I think we did a podcast about it. It was like, boom,
there he is. Even though he wasn't like running away
or anything.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
It just felt like, I've got I don't know ten
or twenty seconds, need to go ahead and make this
shot because we weren't working the wind or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Right, but there's I mean, but I missed. So I
mean maybe you go, hey, go ahead and get a
good rest and get your base set up. You maybe
he'll walk away while you're doing that. Yeah, maybe you
get another shot. Maybe he stops and looks.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, but you might be one hundred and thirty five
rather than a hundred.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
It would have been fine.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah, but yeah, that's kind of my goal going into
this is I want to make sure that that we
have met, just want to be stable, thank everybody, and
if it's something I don't want it to be me, right, Okay,
if there was a gust of wind or.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
The animal ran off or whatever, I don't want it
to be me.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
So I'm gonna be sitting here going, yeah, you know
when you're so cold cold, Now, what you'll be doing
to me is you're going shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot shoot.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
That that that's one's gonna spook.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Hey, I've gotten better on that. I've gotten I have
gotten better on that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I mean because hunting with kids and my boys especially,
like I've got to remember, like no pressure on them.
Like the more I am pressing them, they like.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
They want to turn around, go shut up, dad, Like
I've got this, Like.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Also just thinking about just as I haven't really thought
about this until now we're talking about it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
They did say they had a good herd of elk
out there. Yeah, and we'll talk to the guy. That's
the nice thing about honting with a guide is if
he's like, hey, man, the conditions have been rough. If
we see an l you better get on it. That's
different than hey, guys, we have a bunch of herd
on this, and if if.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
We don't get the right shot, don't worry there's more
out right like okay, cool, like.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
At least you know going in.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah, It's also like when a guide, now this is
a cow all hunt. So if we see a cow elk,
it's a shooter. We don't have to determine whether it's
a shooter. But when you're rundling with a guide and
he goes, oh, that's a shooter, you said, well, okay,
he said it's a shooter.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, you kind of take his word for it, especially
if you have it hunted the area or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
You're you're really.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Kind of beholden to the outfitter and what he says
and his calls. Then that's fine, but it will be nice.
And I think how it will end up splitting off
is is Rob may go you know with him and
all film Ryan and we'll probably tag team at like
a one in a two thing and the guys who
were going with the two, Like, that's gonna be nice
(22:21):
because then you have some support there like hey, get
that bag for me, or hey give me your coat,
like to fill this space, or let's shut that down
into prone And I mean, we.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Will try to see if we can pick off more
than one out of a herd.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Oh, you are shooting suppressed, and if you make one
good shot suppressed, it's very possible that the elk either
run off not far or don't really because if you've
got a herd of elk and you know, one goes down,
I mean, I think it's very possible to get too there.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I think so, especially shooting the suppress. That's kind of
a you know, they talk about the non directional noise.
They don't know where it was front depends on what
they see beforehand. If they see thoury giant lumps over
there that weren't there, odds are pretty good the noise
came from over there.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
So let's go the other way.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Let's tell Rob not to wear a sequin jacket.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, all right, anybody come on the killing me are
back there.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
He's back there doing jumping jacks and lunges. What down
should we talk about other gear? That's where bringing on
the sun is any top secret?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
No, nothing else's top secret. You know, we do have
like an.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Armiside operator six forty clip on that's really cool, but
we have no guns that will it will clip onto.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
We're using it as you know, either a like a
detection or a recovery.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Those are really the only two ways we can use it,
which is fine with me. And then coming back you know,
when the temperatures really drop like that, that's a great
time to use is thermal.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Oh yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Even though we don't have a gun that we can
clip it on man, just to get in the right
area and undercover in the darkness.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And I know you like to look out there before
we go into an area.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oh yeah, That's the most important thing for me is
make sure I'm not bumping anything. And two, if I
can see a kyode, you know, out to distance like say,
you know, six seven hundred yards, if I can approach
that coyote from a different direction, that gives me an
advantage for wind and set up really quickly. And then
that sun comes up, I mean that kyote is going
(24:33):
to die. Yeah, like I mean, it makes it just
so much easier. And then detection, you know when they
hole up and they curl up under a mesquite tree
or something like that, they're not hiding right yeah, I
mean no, no, even during the daylight. And that's what's
so effective about you know, you can go, okay, there
is a hot spot over here, and I know is
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one hundred percent not a you know, hot tree or
a hot stump or a cactus or something like that.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So that's pretty nice.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
But that we've got new headlights lights, headlamps from a
company called Princeton Tech.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, I'm interested to chy them out. I like the
the feel of them. I like the controls are simple,
and uh, they kind of have a history with flashlights.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yes, uh, and that's like on the military side.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And so that they have that those roots into like
developing high quality stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
And there's like a little lantern back there that's like
a thousand lubin lamp that's rechargeable.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So what is stuff like that? That's cool. Winchester Optics, Yeah, Winchester.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
So Winchester so, I mean an optics company.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I don't know how they're positioning this, but is licensing
the Winchester name I think and bringing.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Out And we were kind of like, let's be honest,
We're like, I don't know this is gonna be good
or not. I don't know, I don't know, right, but
we tried it out.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
You guys tested it and you said, I know it's
good to go, because I said, hey, if this thing
is a problem.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I took it out to Ben Fobb's place roaming shot
range in Louisiana, and dude, it tracked true. I mean
out to you know, five hundred yards, which I'd kind
of like to keep the shots within on this trip.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, about sixty inside one hundred.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I was inside one hundred next to the born.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah. Hey, okay, so we're trying to do here.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, but you know.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
It's I think it's a highly effective optic at a
lower price point. And that's something that has been changing
my tune here lately is I had a super expensive
opting we're not gonna need names here recently, then had
(26:57):
a foot and a half.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
To two feet deva ship in adjustments at one hundred
yards where you just let sheet No. Hey, Chris Serno.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Was having the same issue, because I had him come
out because they that's one thing, eliminate the shooter.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
All right, you're having troubles with a gun.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
All right, let's check all our gear, let's make sure
everything's tightened down, let's look at everything it could be,
and then all right, let's take out the shooter. Then
Chris Arena in there and his was just as bad.
I was like, all right, it's not me. It was
doing the exact same thing, and this optic probably costs
(27:39):
quadruple of the Yeah, so you know the adjustments they
were true.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So we're working.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
The Winchester one we've got is the three to eighteen, Yes,
three to eighteen Supreme three to eighteen.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
On their website it's three hundred and forty four bucks.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Three and forty four bucks. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure
they probably got a good warranty with it, but I
so far it's done well. Uh, I see no issues
with it yet.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I mean, I guess we'll find out once you start
banging it around, driving it acrosscut Tree.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
That's really when the testing happens.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I mean, we didn't come all this way with one gun. No,
don't worry, guys.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So the other one we have is a old Thompson
Center icon.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
If you're at they don't even make any I wish
they would, man, but they I don't think they can
make them like that anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Thompson Center as a brand is just kind.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Of not well. Hopefully Ritz gets it back up and
run it.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, that's right, brought it back.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
So I don't know what his plans are with it.
I would have him on see what he's doing with it.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Greg Ritz, Hey, Greg rig give us a call.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Bring back the icon and.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
The war board, the war that they made like five guns.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I know somebody who has a whole We know someone
who has a warload warlord.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Two of them. Yeah when he has two of them?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, and they only I swear, I think they only
made five and they were great guns.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh what I thereat name three she ate Lapua. Yeah,
very accurate.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I mean for a gun.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Then, yeah, that's pretty awesome me. I hope they still
have the trademark on that.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, but you know it's I don't know, man like
as far as like ear like in guns, like on
top of that, it's loophole.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
It's new optic.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
It's a Mark six x HD Mark six HD yeah,
three to eighteen or six to eighteen. It might be
six to eighteen O three eighteen six eighteen.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
What of that's but.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Fire dot radical So it's a hunting Radical second vocal plane.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Really nice little optic U but.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, sure, what's your strategy on the socket?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Man, I don't know, like just get it like what
down and oak back on any means necessary.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I mean, if I have to chase it down, and
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I've got extra knives.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, I'm glad we brought extra knives. I think. I
think it's kind of like you.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I want to make a good, good ethical shot, don't
damage too much meat, So maybe a high neck shot.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Are you gonna do that?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
It seems risky.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
It depends on how much.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
If the guy says, don't worry, they're funny out there.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Okay, head shot and shot. We'll wait, kitt eat the
cheap boones.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Right, what do you think, rob, what's your strategy?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, there's a goosey hooy back to best wall. Yes,
all right, I think sounds good to be Okay, Robart,
you've found it a lot. What's the unches camp with
creak ins?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (30:56):
What's the number one best piece of hunting advice you've
ever received? Bad honey in general or like while I'm
trying to when I'm just hunting in general, just hunting
in general.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Definitely like breathing, Yeah, just breathe, make sure you're breathing,
and especially for or notou suders, because you don't when.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I get to shanks. But uh, can't.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Rush really, don't buss to stand, don't brush the blind,
non't buss bless the gods telling me to damn. But yeah,
that's funny. We have very different ideas of what good
ounting advice is. Wait, way different. Mine's like take an
extra pair of light layer gloves in case you forget
your toilet paper.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Like I would say that that's for me.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Like, yeah, never leave home without your dude wives, Like
that's very important. Do not.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
My dad's more extra socks is.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
That's the sock man.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I didn't know you hunted in leaveless shirts. Well I didn't.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I just swam just so I was really sorry.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
A good guest who has been on the podcast before,
he goes out and then he were hunting together and.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
He comes back. Man, he's a sweat and I'm like, man,
what you been doing? He goes, Man, I've got a
story for you.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
He goes, well, I saw a deer in the bottom
and I decided I wanted to get to shoot it
because I really my stomach there's something.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Going on that really needed to be addressed.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
He goes, I didn't want to just jump out of
the stand and ruin a spot because I was seeing here,
he said, So I ran back, But then he goes,
I ran back, and I realized I was three hundred
yards away from the stand. I said, that's plenty of root.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
And he goes, I went to bend down, and he goes, oh, no, my.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Toilet papers in my back patch. And he's looking around
on the prairie. Oh no, there on the prairie, there's
only the.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Sa yes, And so he goes, you know what that day,
I remember, like I'll always remember them, one pair of
really expensive under armour gloves that got me through it.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Well, this is your moment.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I had time to shine boys.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I dropped the golf is my dad's one time, but
it was at an effort stand.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And this was a Louisiana so with that cold. But
he came back to the truck with like a taped
top one and he kind of bellies hurt.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And I was like, hey, bam, happened that said Ben
toilet paper in the trunk.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
He's like he kind of like yeah, He's like. Harry
was like, bro, I got toilet papers, brought it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
You had extra gloves this whole time. Yeah, it's called.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Man, I think everybody has those moments when they're out
in the woods and it's just it's it's life at
that point.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
It's life or death.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Yeah, and you just don't how long can I sit
in the stand, because Lord, everybody's thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
The moment I step out of the stand, that's what happen.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
There's gonna walk out half to a buddy of mine,
he had to peek at the perfect moment for a deer.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Just like, I'm like, dude, just wait, you can find it.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
And I specifically put this blind up where I know
that deer are coming out. They're gonna be all out
in front. And then like all you have to do
is if you have to pee, step right out the
back pete.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
He steps, he steps to the side and they send
their peean and I'm like, oh, ease up.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
So I ease up and out the other side, and
I kind of peek around and there's a buck now
staring at him one hundred.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yards away, like going, all right, why is like that?
What's he doing? Why is he?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Should I call the cars like this is inappropriate? And
so I go over and I go to kid hit.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
In the blind. Get here in the blind. There's a
buck right there. He goes, shut up the dude. But
at this point he had cut it off. You're watching.
He goes, it hurts really bad. I go get in
the blind.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
But see, you guys are getting the taste of what
it's like the hot with kids.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I was like, get in the blind. He goes, hen'
gonna leave. I was like, get the blind, dude. Sure enough,
like the fuck goes?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Oh man leaves and then all of a sudden, I
was like, he's like, where is he? It's like I
can't see it. I was like, give it a second.
I was like, just wait turve, and sure enough, one
steps out. He came back like he steps right over
and gets shot.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
No, he deserved to get missed. He missed.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
He missed this here at one hundred yards and you know,
saying it can happened. Man, no judgment, Hey yeah, hey
he had a rest. No, I was shooting off hand.
I have an excuse, but it was suppressed. If it's
my gun and I go hold it right on, he.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Goes, he's gone. He goes, I blew it, I blew it.
I go he's gonna come back.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Sure enough, that same dear comes right back and ready
edie and he shot at that time, and I was like,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
That's why shoots suppressed.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Pani.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Now you go pee, Now you go pe, You've earned
your peak. Come on, but seriously, that's why you have
shooting hunting suppress. This sent a big deal because you
it gives you some wiggle room, you know. One, Yes,
there's the hearing, you know, not legible, das ice, but yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Mean he the deer ran off, came back, but he
came back because it's like, okay, there was some noise,
but I'm not really sure where it came from.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Happened, Yeah, yeah, porting on, dislocating shoulder, yes, yea as
well yeah yeah, some recoil management.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
That's an age. Yeah, all good.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
All right, Well, hopefully the next podcast you hear will
be a congratulations been the huntway great.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Rather than damn you ben you suck anyway? All right,
oh you've gone talk hunters.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
You know the drill, Keep those muscles pointed in a
safe direction, and always be all the hunting
Welcome to Gun Talk Hunt on the road.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I don't I can see the comments. Now pull on
a second. I'm gonna fix it.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Were you not buckle?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I was in the wrong buckle?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Okay, this Gun Talk Hunt.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Ryan likes the buckle of seat pel wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hey, I'm kJ dedicated lifelong hunter here. If you've got
an interest in all things hunting, you're in the right spot.
Whether chasing quill across the plains of Oklahoma or in
pursuit of belk in the back country of British Columbia,
you'll always find me on the hunt. This episode of
Gun Talk Hunt is brought to you by Silencer Central,
(00:43):
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
All right, on this gun Talk Hunt, we've got Ryan
Gresha Boss. That's me, and then we've got Rob Posey
in the back. Who's gonna be chiming in to what's
your role here? Hired hand hunter.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
But he's the guns, he's the gun bearer, he's the gun,
he's the shirt. But he didn't know he thought he's honey.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Oh my gosh, that's how this trump is gone.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Said, I got up at three a m. This morning.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yep, man.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
We picked Rob up in Shreveport.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
He was standing by the road with his uh guy
who's I was like, that must be.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Our guy, Hey, pick your buck.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
He looks brisk, but uh No, we're heading out to
New Mexico with Larry Larry.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Are we just gonna call him Larry the Outfitter? Yah,
Larry the outfitter and gonna go on a meeting?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Now we should we should talk about how this hunt
come to keep. Yeah, because it's kind of hunting can
be weird. It's like a secret society.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
My wife thinks it's a secret society. It is like, Hey,
your buddy Dave has honey property. Why don't you just
go hot with Dave. I'm like, well, then I'd have
to ask him.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
There's a whole culture there, and then I'd have to
owe him a favor maybe, And if I came into
this hunting land, then he would get to come on
my hunting land, and maybe I don't really want that,
but I like Dave's land, so.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Maybe I should ask him. But no, this all came
about from Ben Fob of Roaming Shot.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Range, So either he gets credit or blamed defend how
this goes.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, So I guess the next episode will be the
title will either be way to go Ben or scream
Ben a rowing shot?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Who know?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So Ryan kind of thought, Hey, let's go out, let's
test a new cartridge.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, the seven millimeters backcountry brand new, brand new, I
mean fresh off the streets. It dropped on the seventh
of the year twenty twenty five January of our dear Lord.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I see you're speaking old English, now I am.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I think that's what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
This is old Testamy kJ just watch out? Yeah that
you thought that kJ meant Pete James Kevin Jarnigan. But
so he said, let's go on a meat hunt. And
so I'm like, well, yes, I'm all in. And hopefully
when we return we get done early because I do.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Have I do have the good luck em and ms.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Do people know about the M and ms?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
They've got any Most people know that I get a
bag of em and m's.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
What kind of eminem's peanut butter and ms?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
All right?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
And what are the rules of the M and M?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
The rules of the eminem's are you buy them before
the hunt, You carry them with you at all times,
like in your pack. You do not eat them until
the hunt is successful.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And if the hunt is not successful, you have to
throw them away.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh, an unopened bag of peanut butter m and ms.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Ye, usually they're melted, that crushed north home. Yeah, no,
you gotta get rid of them, get that bad ju
chuo off of them.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I don't know when that happened. I think it all had.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It all happened around a hunt where the whole season
was kind of a kind of a really crappy year.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Oh we did that last year. That was last year.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Oh yeah, we talked out a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
We could We could talk about el Khontz last year.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
That's his elk hut. We did talk about that.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
But it all comes around to testing nude product. And
I swear there is not a hunt that Ryan or
I go on where it's like, hey.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
We're using only our stuff, like it ably starts out, well,
sometimes it starts out like, dude, let's just go make
a hunt.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Just a fun thing, No, not a work. We just
we'll just go. That lasts about five seconds.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Five second that you're like, you know what we could use.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, there's a new thing.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Let's see if Federals will send us seven millimeters back country?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, or like what will normally happen is you plan
this hunt like that's.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
How the Kodiak trip came about. That's right. It was.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I was like, I want to go to Kodiak. I
want to whack some blacktails. And I happen to mention
it to our buddy and he goes, hey, I want
in on that, right, And no, it's not a work thing.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I just want to go do it. It turns into
a work thing.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So now we have the seven back country, which it's
so here's what it reminds me of. It reminds me
of what Sig Sour is doing with the two seven
seven sig Fury really high.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Pressurized round, correct, right, that's kind of that.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Just yeah, So that's what you guys are gonna start seeing.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And that's gonna be like the changes in rifle like
consumer grade like hunting rifle ammunition. Is the case technology
is different, which for us, for us, you know, ballistic.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Retards, I'm the ladder.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
It's uh, it's basically the case technology.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You can load it higher pressures, yeah, and therefore get a.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Bullet performance that you couldn't get before out of the
same type of case.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So so yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Seven millimere back country give us the beats on it.
Here's here's kind of what you need to know. It's
designed for as it sounds, backcountry Western hunting.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
A lot of people are running.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Shorter burrel guns because they're running suppressed guns. So this
is designed around a twenty inch barrel. Obviously it'll work
in shorter and longer barrels, but yeah, optimized for that
benchmark is a twenty inch barrel. One hundred and seventy
green bullet going three thousand feet per second is kind
of the benchmark that they were trying to hit.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
That checks out, by the way, like one hundred percent
checks out.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
We were getting consistent. Now here's the other thing with
these hunts.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
We don't always get the first like what that is
going out to the.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Pubble, we get lot zero, yeah or negative one.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I think we got maybe all hundred rounds of this stuff.
Maybe not even that maybe not yeah, not of the
same grain. We got some one hundred and fifty five
grade turpial ascents, then some one seventy grain barns, and
for this hunt, we're shooting the federal premium one hundred
(07:20):
and seventy grade terminal ascent.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Correct, Yeah, those are great bullets. So they've let me
just I'll kind of run you down the loads they've got.
It's from one fifty five to one ninety five grade
bullets you've got, you've got terminal ascent in one hundred
and fifty five, one hundred and seventy grade. You've got
the Burger Relait one hundred ninety five grade. We'll come
back to that because that one's kind of really cool. Yeah,
Barnes l Rex one hundred and sixty eighth grade, that's interesting,
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fusion tipped one seventy five grain, okay, And so like
the one ninety five, I particularly think it's kind of
fun because it is a point seventy five to five
ballistic coefficient. Wow, it's super long, so and I'm luck
to win real long.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So I bet that's what most backcountry hunters will probably
end up going with. The one fifty five Really intrades.
I mean, we were getting speeds of like three pretty
consistent three thousand and eighty eight out of almost thirty
one hundred, almost thirty one hundred out of a Christiansen
arms Ridge line.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I think that's the ridgeline fft. Is that right? They?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, and uh, and we've got it suppressed.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It is suppressed Oh my gosh, so we shot I've
shot it suppressed and unsuppressed. You will want to suppress
this thing. I mean, that's the whole reason behind the
hunting with a shorter barrel, so you can suppress it.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I mean, when it's going, when it's a seven millimeter
one hundred seventy grade going that fast, it's a magnum.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
They don't call it a magnum of people. It's kind
of funny if you think about it. They've gotten away
from calling everything magnums.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, that was like a trend in the seventies, eighties, nineties,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
So do you think the guys that like, really love
recoil they're too ashamed to get something called the seven
mm backcountry because they really want the rum.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
They want the wrong they'll have magnum.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
It won't kill if it ain't got magnum in the name.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
That's the same guys that go to the dollar stores
and buy the really big condoms. It's the same guy
he really doesn't need the really the magnums.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I think that's more than you were kicking up the
girl who's working the cash crash register.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That's what that is. But uh yeah, so we're gonna
chest it out. We're gonna so and we If you're
hearing road noise, we are.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
We're on the road.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
We're on a sixteen hour or so drive out to
New Mexico.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I won't let these guys drive. I mean we offered,
they offered, They offered. Immediately Rob got in the truck
and he was like, hey, can I drive like I'd
rather you not.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I know how it is. I've written with you on
enough trips.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I'm little little bit o c D about driving like
I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I like it, Like, as long as you don't mind,
and you're not fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
No, no, man, there's I don't think there's been really
any time that I've really fallen asleep driving.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I don't think, not really.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I remember I did take a nap in a field
one time, apparently because I woke up.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
You did, I did.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I didn't fall asleep on the interstate. I wouldn't recommend
it while you're driving. No, no, no, And it was
I was not drinking, and it wasn't nighttime.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It was four pm. Really, yes, it was like in
the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, so we are, we are, okay, I'm getting calls
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's a normal, normal drive.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You guys have to put up with a little background noise. Yeah,
there's just that studio quality.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
No huh.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
But before we get into that, let's talk about weather
and the pressures. I want to get to a little
bit more of the backcountry cartridge, uh, and what Federal's doing.
And one of the biggest questions I have, and I
answered it a week ago on the podcast, is and
I think I need to restate it and readdress it.
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This can the seven millimeters back country be reloaded? So
all that is going to come up on the other side.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
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Speaker 1 (12:32):
All right, we're back. We're gun Talk Hunt on the
road with headhunch.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Oh CEO Ryan Gresham and host of gun Talk Nation
and Rob Posey, who is designated Gunman.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah he's he's just shoot. What's funny is he's.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
A wing man.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, I mean if he can spot elkraally good, I'm
all for it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But ye, there's a out.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, but so far I'm the only one spotting animals
on this trend.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Oh, let me tell you guys about riding with kJ
kJ likes to drive. He also likes to spot game
out the window so he doesn't look at the road
as much as maybe one mite when they're driving or
what it should one should when they're going seventy five
down the down the road. Yeah, but he's like hog,
oh kyody, oh deer.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But eyes are tuned in and I gets hunting seats feeder.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, dude, as soon as you see a feeder liked.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It, You're like, hmm, you're checking around the feeder.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You're checking ryot thank Riot banks. I wonder if I
could hunt that. Oh, that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Every time I'm like.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Dude, or you say or you say, how would I
hunt that?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
What wind is that set up for? Where's the guy
walking in? Where's his tree? And where's his exit points?
That's what I'm sorrying.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Everybody listens to this does that. They're like, man, I
bet they got some deer in there.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh yeah, you know they do. But yeah, it's New
Seventh back country. We're heading left to New Mexico. So
if you hear road noise.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
That's that's the open roads. We're in West Texas now,
where my truck is not used to going this far west,
so I'm having to fight it a little bit. From
turning around to southwestern Oklahoma. Moves, but uh, we're heading out.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
We're gonna go Kyle Kyle el hunting.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Hopefully we'll get to come back and we'll shoot some uh.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And I've got some breaking news that I'm gonna share
with the guys uhh that they don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
They probably know, but I kind of confirmed it just
now with Reed Timber uh super duper weather man uh
on the way supposedly on our way back in the
Dallas area, up to twelve inches of snow like gosh.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So who likes who wants to go to Houston?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Seriously, well just knowing Dallas say, it's so bad if
you're down in Key West.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Right, but I saw around two potential two inches around
southwestern Oklahoma?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Really, which you like?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I love for coyote, for coyote and honey.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
If you are a kiostereo man, cold weather and coyotes
and especially snow like man.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And if if it's freezing rain a little bit, it's
so good. It's so good.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
They're not so hungry, and they will come to anything.
You could probably fart.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
In the wind and they will, they will come looking
for what's what's smelling good?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I just want to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I know, it's like that maybe they want to get warm.
I don't know, but we're out. We're gonna go shoot
the Seventh back Country. Ryan.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Here's my question, yep, before and you may know the answer,
but before I like kind of divulge a little bit
on what I was told by Eric Beller. Would you
think that the Seventh back Country would be reloadable?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Now, this is a peak alloy CA Yeah, a different
type of case.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So it is peak alloy case technology and it is
and I hope I'm saying this right. It is steelcase.
But but it's not steelcase like cheap Russian Ammo steelcase Sammo. Right, yeah,
so you know, but I mean we've had this discussion.
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I think Chris was like, but you can't reload it, right,
And I was like, we need to confirm that.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So what's the verdict that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
You are going to be able to reload this?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Do you have to do something special with the case.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
It does not sound like an at all. When talking
with Harriic Miller, which I was a little shocked, I
was going to go, no, it's not relable. Now I imagine
the powder that they are using is kind of a
proprietary powder that they have, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
If like you're what reloading powder they would suggest, But
according to him, they're going to have load data that
you're going to be able to load your own.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So in my.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Mind that makes the seven em back country way more attractive.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Then let's say a two seven to seven sake fury
because there is a two piece space.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, and I don't know if that's reloadable or not.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
It's not sure. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Because the two piece case in in a pistol ambo.
I believe that that was one thing they said, can
you really reloaded a lot of times because it was
different instruction? But you know what I worry about pressures
the two piece case. Now we're just gonna get into
guessing and conjecture. Yes, but I think the two piece
is a different animal because you've got the back of
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it is made of something. That's why it's two piece.
It's I believe that's why it superhandle the pressures.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
I probably calls out in tellble get oh, Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
What what is your strategy going into this high?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Don't miss that's the strategy. Don't miss the well the
large five hundred pound critter. Right, which can be done.
I've tested. This is possible to miss it elk standing
off hand at one hundred standing offhand on one hundred yards,
it is possible. You're like, it's a hundred yards chip shot.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I don't need to get a good rest. I'm not
gonna do that.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
You guys might be doing the other thing of like, uh,
are you gonna shoot? I'm gonna be like, get you
out a windsock.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
KJ get over here and let me use your back
as a rest for my I've killed this gap right here, Hey.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Just get out a second range finder.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I want to get I want to plumbob this thing
and make sure everything are perfect.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Well, there's something to building a platform, and especially for
hunts that you pay for, Like, right, this is this
is not.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Us like going out and doing a DIY. This is
we are paying an outfitter to go get a cow out.
This is a meat hunt for us.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It's definitely a meating hunt. No, but that's something that
you and I have talked about.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And when it comes to hunting, I guess it just
depends on the type of hunting. Right, If you're sitting
in a box blind over a feeder. Then you see
a white tail walk into the field and you watch
him walk in.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You see him and.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
You could tell by a deer's mannerisms of like is
he spooked or is he totally chill? And you have
all the time in the world when you're spotting stalking
and like that was my situation on that hunt last year.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I think we did a podcast about it. It was like, boom,
there he is. Even though he wasn't like running away
or anything.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
It just felt like, I've got I don't know ten
or twenty seconds, need to go ahead and make this
shot because we weren't working the wind or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Right, but there's I mean, but I missed. So I
mean maybe you go, hey, go ahead and get a
good rest and get your base set up. You maybe
he'll walk away while you're doing that. Yeah, maybe you
get another shot. Maybe he stops and looks.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, but you might be one hundred and thirty five
rather than a hundred.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
It would have been fine.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah, but yeah, that's kind of my goal going into
this is I want to make sure that that we
have met, just want to be stable, thank everybody, and
if it's something I don't want it to be me, right, Okay,
if there was a gust of wind or.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
The animal ran off or whatever, I don't want it
to be me.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
So I'm gonna be sitting here going, yeah, you know
when you're so cold cold, Now, what you'll be doing
to me is you're going shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot shoot.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
That that that's one's gonna spook.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Hey, I've gotten better on that. I've gotten I have
gotten better on that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I mean because hunting with kids and my boys especially,
like I've got to remember, like no pressure on them.
Like the more I am pressing them, they like.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
They want to turn around, go shut up, dad, Like
I've got this, Like.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Also just thinking about just as I haven't really thought
about this until now we're talking about it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
They did say they had a good herd of elk
out there. Yeah, and we'll talk to the guy. That's
the nice thing about honting with a guide is if
he's like, hey, man, the conditions have been rough. If
we see an l you better get on it. That's
different than hey, guys, we have a bunch of herd
on this, and if if.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
We don't get the right shot, don't worry there's more
out right like okay, cool, like.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
At least you know going in.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah, It's also like when a guide, now this is
a cow all hunt. So if we see a cow elk,
it's a shooter. We don't have to determine whether it's
a shooter. But when you're rundling with a guide and
he goes, oh, that's a shooter, you said, well, okay,
he said it's a shooter.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, you kind of take his word for it, especially
if you have it hunted the area or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
You're you're really.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Kind of beholden to the outfitter and what he says
and his calls. Then that's fine, but it will be nice.
And I think how it will end up splitting off
is is Rob may go you know with him and
all film Ryan and we'll probably tag team at like
a one in a two thing and the guys who
were going with the two, Like, that's gonna be nice
(22:21):
because then you have some support there like hey, get
that bag for me, or hey give me your coat,
like to fill this space, or let's shut that down
into prone And I mean, we.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Will try to see if we can pick off more
than one out of a herd.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Oh, you are shooting suppressed, and if you make one
good shot suppressed, it's very possible that the elk either
run off not far or don't really because if you've
got a herd of elk and you know, one goes down,
I mean, I think it's very possible to get too there.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I think so, especially shooting the suppress. That's kind of
a you know, they talk about the non directional noise.
They don't know where it was front depends on what
they see beforehand. If they see thoury giant lumps over
there that weren't there, odds are pretty good the noise
came from over there.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
So let's go the other way.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Let's tell Rob not to wear a sequin jacket.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, all right, anybody come on the killing me are
back there.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
He's back there doing jumping jacks and lunges. What down
should we talk about other gear? That's where bringing on
the sun is any top secret?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
No, nothing else's top secret. You know, we do have
like an.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Armiside operator six forty clip on that's really cool, but
we have no guns that will it will clip onto.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
We're using it as you know, either a like a
detection or a recovery.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Those are really the only two ways we can use it,
which is fine with me. And then coming back you know,
when the temperatures really drop like that, that's a great
time to use is thermal.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Oh yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Even though we don't have a gun that we can
clip it on man, just to get in the right
area and undercover in the darkness.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And I know you like to look out there before
we go into an area.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oh yeah, That's the most important thing for me is
make sure I'm not bumping anything. And two, if I
can see a kyode, you know, out to distance like say,
you know, six seven hundred yards, if I can approach
that coyote from a different direction, that gives me an
advantage for wind and set up really quickly. And then
that sun comes up, I mean that kyote is going
(24:33):
to die. Yeah, like I mean, it makes it just
so much easier. And then detection, you know when they
hole up and they curl up under a mesquite tree
or something like that, they're not hiding right yeah, I
mean no, no, even during the daylight. And that's what's
so effective about you know, you can go, okay, there
is a hot spot over here, and I know is
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one hundred percent not a you know, hot tree or
a hot stump or a cactus or something like that.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So that's pretty nice.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
But that we've got new headlights lights, headlamps from a
company called Princeton Tech.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, I'm interested to chy them out. I like the
the feel of them. I like the controls are simple,
and uh, they kind of have a history with flashlights.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yes, uh, and that's like on the military side.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And so that they have that those roots into like
developing high quality stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
And there's like a little lantern back there that's like
a thousand lubin lamp that's rechargeable.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So what is stuff like that? That's cool. Winchester Optics, Yeah, Winchester.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
So Winchester so, I mean an optics company.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I don't know how they're positioning this, but is licensing
the Winchester name I think and bringing.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Out And we were kind of like, let's be honest,
We're like, I don't know this is gonna be good
or not. I don't know, I don't know, right, but
we tried it out.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
You guys tested it and you said, I know it's
good to go, because I said, hey, if this thing
is a problem.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I took it out to Ben Fobb's place roaming shot
range in Louisiana, and dude, it tracked true. I mean
out to you know, five hundred yards, which I'd kind
of like to keep the shots within on this trip.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, about sixty inside one hundred.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I was inside one hundred next to the born.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah. Hey, okay, so we're trying to do here.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, but you know.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
It's I think it's a highly effective optic at a
lower price point. And that's something that has been changing
my tune here lately is I had a super expensive
opting we're not gonna need names here recently, then had
(26:57):
a foot and a half.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
To two feet deva ship in adjustments at one hundred
yards where you just let sheet No. Hey, Chris Serno.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Was having the same issue, because I had him come
out because they that's one thing, eliminate the shooter.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
All right, you're having troubles with a gun.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
All right, let's check all our gear, let's make sure
everything's tightened down, let's look at everything it could be,
and then all right, let's take out the shooter. Then
Chris Arena in there and his was just as bad.
I was like, all right, it's not me. It was
doing the exact same thing, and this optic probably costs
(27:39):
quadruple of the Yeah, so you know the adjustments they
were true.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So we're working.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
The Winchester one we've got is the three to eighteen, Yes,
three to eighteen Supreme three to eighteen.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
On their website it's three hundred and forty four bucks.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Three and forty four bucks. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure
they probably got a good warranty with it, but I
so far it's done well. Uh, I see no issues
with it yet.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I mean, I guess we'll find out once you start
banging it around, driving it acrosscut Tree.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
That's really when the testing happens.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I mean, we didn't come all this way with one gun. No,
don't worry, guys.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So the other one we have is a old Thompson
Center icon.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
If you're at they don't even make any I wish
they would, man, but they I don't think they can
make them like that anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Thompson Center as a brand is just kind.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Of not well. Hopefully Ritz gets it back up and
run it.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, that's right, brought it back.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
So I don't know what his plans are with it.
I would have him on see what he's doing with it.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Greg Ritz, Hey, Greg rig give us a call.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Bring back the icon and.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
The war board, the war that they made like five guns.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I know somebody who has a whole We know someone
who has a warload warlord.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Two of them. Yeah when he has two of them?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, and they only I swear, I think they only
made five and they were great guns.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh what I thereat name three she ate Lapua. Yeah,
very accurate.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I mean for a gun.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Then, yeah, that's pretty awesome me. I hope they still
have the trademark on that.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, but you know it's I don't know, man like
as far as like ear like in guns, like on
top of that, it's loophole.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
It's new optic.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
It's a Mark six x HD Mark six HD yeah,
three to eighteen or six to eighteen. It might be
six to eighteen O three eighteen six eighteen.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
What of that's but.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Fire dot radical So it's a hunting Radical second vocal plane.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Really nice little optic U but.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, sure, what's your strategy on the socket?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Man, I don't know, like just get it like what
down and oak back on any means necessary.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I mean, if I have to chase it down, and
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I've got extra knives.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, I'm glad we brought extra knives. I think. I
think it's kind of like you.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I want to make a good, good ethical shot, don't
damage too much meat, So maybe a high neck shot.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Are you gonna do that?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
It seems risky.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
It depends on how much.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
If the guy says, don't worry, they're funny out there.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Okay, head shot and shot. We'll wait, kitt eat the
cheap boones.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Right, what do you think, rob, what's your strategy?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, there's a goosey hooy back to best wall. Yes,
all right, I think sounds good to be Okay, Robart,
you've found it a lot. What's the unches camp with
creak ins?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (30:56):
What's the number one best piece of hunting advice you've
ever received? Bad honey in general or like while I'm
trying to when I'm just hunting in general, just hunting
in general.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Definitely like breathing, Yeah, just breathe, make sure you're breathing,
and especially for or notou suders, because you don't when.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I get to shanks. But uh, can't.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Rush really, don't buss to stand, don't brush the blind,
non't buss bless the gods telling me to damn. But yeah,
that's funny. We have very different ideas of what good
ounting advice is. Wait, way different. Mine's like take an
extra pair of light layer gloves in case you forget
your toilet paper.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Like I would say that that's for me.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Like, yeah, never leave home without your dude wives, Like
that's very important. Do not.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
My dad's more extra socks is.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
That's the sock man.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I didn't know you hunted in leaveless shirts. Well I didn't.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I just swam just so I was really sorry.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
A good guest who has been on the podcast before,
he goes out and then he were hunting together and.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
He comes back. Man, he's a sweat and I'm like, man,
what you been doing? He goes, Man, I've got a
story for you.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
He goes, well, I saw a deer in the bottom
and I decided I wanted to get to shoot it
because I really my stomach there's something.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Going on that really needed to be addressed.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
He goes, I didn't want to just jump out of
the stand and ruin a spot because I was seeing here,
he said, So I ran back, But then he goes,
I ran back, and I realized I was three hundred
yards away from the stand. I said, that's plenty of root.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
And he goes, I went to bend down, and he goes, oh, no, my.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Toilet papers in my back patch. And he's looking around
on the prairie. Oh no, there on the prairie, there's
only the.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Sa yes, And so he goes, you know what that day,
I remember, like I'll always remember them, one pair of
really expensive under armour gloves that got me through it.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Well, this is your moment.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I had time to shine boys.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I dropped the golf is my dad's one time, but
it was at an effort stand.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And this was a Louisiana so with that cold. But
he came back to the truck with like a taped
top one and he kind of bellies hurt.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And I was like, hey, bam, happened that said Ben
toilet paper in the trunk.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
He's like he kind of like yeah, He's like. Harry
was like, bro, I got toilet papers, brought it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
You had extra gloves this whole time. Yeah, it's called.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Man, I think everybody has those moments when they're out
in the woods and it's just it's it's life at
that point.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
It's life or death.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Yeah, and you just don't how long can I sit
in the stand, because Lord, everybody's thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
The moment I step out of the stand, that's what happen.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
There's gonna walk out half to a buddy of mine,
he had to peek at the perfect moment for a deer.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Just like, I'm like, dude, just wait, you can find it.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
And I specifically put this blind up where I know
that deer are coming out. They're gonna be all out
in front. And then like all you have to do
is if you have to pee, step right out the
back pete.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
He steps, he steps to the side and they send
their peean and I'm like, oh, ease up.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
So I ease up and out the other side, and
I kind of peek around and there's a buck now
staring at him one hundred.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yards away, like going, all right, why is like that?
What's he doing? Why is he?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Should I call the cars like this is inappropriate? And
so I go over and I go to kid hit.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
In the blind. Get here in the blind. There's a
buck right there. He goes, shut up the dude. But
at this point he had cut it off. You're watching.
He goes, it hurts really bad. I go get in
the blind.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
But see, you guys are getting the taste of what
it's like the hot with kids.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I was like, get in the blind. He goes, hen'
gonna leave. I was like, get the blind, dude. Sure enough,
like the fuck goes?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Oh man leaves and then all of a sudden, I
was like, he's like, where is he? It's like I
can't see it. I was like, give it a second.
I was like, just wait turve, and sure enough, one
steps out. He came back like he steps right over
and gets shot.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
No, he deserved to get missed. He missed.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
He missed this here at one hundred yards and you know,
saying it can happened. Man, no judgment, Hey yeah, hey
he had a rest. No, I was shooting off hand.
I have an excuse, but it was suppressed. If it's
my gun and I go hold it right on, he.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Goes, he's gone. He goes, I blew it, I blew it.
I go he's gonna come back.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Sure enough, that same dear comes right back and ready
edie and he shot at that time, and I was like,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
That's why shoots suppressed.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Pani.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Now you go pee, Now you go pe, You've earned
your peak. Come on, but seriously, that's why you have
shooting hunting suppress. This sent a big deal because you
it gives you some wiggle room, you know. One, Yes,
there's the hearing, you know, not legible, das ice, but yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Mean he the deer ran off, came back, but he
came back because it's like, okay, there was some noise,
but I'm not really sure where it came from.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Happened, Yeah, yeah, porting on, dislocating shoulder, yes, yea as
well yeah yeah, some recoil management.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
That's an age. Yeah, all good.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
All right, Well, hopefully the next podcast you hear will
be a congratulations been the huntway great.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Rather than damn you ben you suck anyway? All right,
oh you've gone talk hunters.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
You know the drill, Keep those muscles pointed in a
safe direction, and always be all the hunting
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