The Charlie Kirk Murder Weapon Nonsense; Who Fixes A Safety?; Rimfire Ammo Failures: 09.21.25 Hour 3
September 21, 2025 • 43 mins
In This Hour:
-- The nonsense reported about the rifle used to kill Charlie Kirk.
-- When a safety doesn't work, do you have it worked on by a local gunsmith or return the gun to the manufacturer?
-- If your rimfire rifle is jamming it's time to try different ammunition.
Gun Talk 09.21.25 Hour 3
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-- The nonsense reported about the rifle used to kill Charlie Kirk.
-- When a safety doesn't work, do you have it worked on by a local gunsmith or return the gun to the manufacturer?
-- If your rimfire rifle is jamming it's time to try different ammunition.
Gun Talk 09.21.25 Hour 3
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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All right, weight about with you, Tom Gresham. This is
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Tom Talk Gun. Rusty called in from Greenwood, Louisiana. May Rusty,
(00:36):
you got an idea here, something out of Australia.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yes, I was just talking about gun control and how
it doesn't save lives, which it doesn't. We all know that,
but I you know, years ago Australia comm schedued all
guns pretty much. You know, they had to do a
gun turning in. But I read David on Friday or Thursday,
it was that one state over there said they had
too many killings by machetes and they've outlawed machetes. They
(01:01):
gave a certain date that you're turning every shed you
own and if you don't have it in by that day.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
And call it one.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It's a three thousand dollars fine in thirty days.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
In jail owning.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So I guess they go to screw drivers.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Next, putting guns on the restricted lists didn't make people behave,
so they switched to machetes. Now they say, well, we
do something bout machetes. And then just as you say,
what's the next thing, are they just going to keep saying, Okay,
we're going to keep banning things that bad people use.
The bad people will ignore it, The criminals, the murderers
(01:33):
will ignore that, the good people will obey the law.
And all you're going to get out of that is
a more defensiveless population and a criminal population that can
just do whatever it wants to do exactly right.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
One other thing I want to say, you talking about
of drawing, you're done. We have a church security team
of fifteen people at I are Cabot Church, which I'm
ahead of it. But twice a year we state started fighting.
The guy comes in the state to so device and
he was telling people how to get your guns out
and not. You know, one guy had to zip up
bag in his pocket, you know, and he said that
don't work anyway. I talked to him. I said, why
(02:09):
don't you all through our class occasionally every now you
hot to draw and let everybody pull their gun, you know,
because all we make sure everybody's you know, no am
an issue, nobody's gone. But I always through the class
you had to draw and to see where you're making mistakes.
And you know, he really liked that, and he said
he doesn't all his classes now.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Interesting, as long as you got people who know to
keep point him in a safe direction, even when they
know they're unloaded.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
He inspects every gun. You got to take everything done.
Later on, they goes box checks every gun to make
sure that.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah matter, nothing doesn't matter. They still got a point
of the safe direction, no matter what.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But a lot of them will be taking tie wraps
now and put to the you know, the chamber to
where it's put it, you know.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Uh yeah, yeah all that.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But I guess my point would be I would still
make sure people understood that even though the gun is unloaded,
even if it's got a tire rapp or twist tie
or whatever you got on it, Uh, you still don't
point a gun at people, period.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
No matter what exact right, we don't point it the
co instructor. You just how to draw, you.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Know, Okay, all right, good deal, all right, I appreciate that.
Thanks Rusty. Let's grab John online too out Hot Springs Village, Arkansas.
Hey John, you're on gun Talk. What's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (03:21):
Hey Tom? I got to follow up in the last color.
If the dam machete is, what are we going to
cook cut of stakes with? But on my question was this,
I'm all enough to see the jfk assassination when I
was a little boy on television, and the MFK assassination sixty.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
So this Charlie Kirt thing, it's.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Not a murder, its side of school shooting. It's an assassination.
My point is we need to see documentaries on this.
This is our movement. This is people like you and me.
I believe you and me. I'm not talking, I'm not
thinking to you, but I think this is about us
(04:06):
in this is this is this is a statement in
America that is propowed as m OK and Jeff K.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I think you're right, and I think that has not
been fully grasped yet by a lot of people. It
will be, But I do think you're right on the
on the and I look I'm a guy who I'm
a wordsmith. I'm a writer and I'm an editor, and
words matter. How you use them really makes the difference.
I am doing it on purpose, using both assassination and
(04:42):
murder for this reason. Let me explain. There are people
who would say an assassination might be justified. There's almost
no one I know of who would say a murder
would be justified. Well, there are those who would say,
you know, the murder of the insurance executive was justified.
(05:03):
There are some really twisted people. But I'm using both
terms to try to make a point that this cannot
be justified no matter how you want to classify it.
It is a heinous act. It's an assassination, it's a murder,
it's the willful killing of someone. Because and here's the
(05:23):
interesting part, and now thanks for your call. Because why
because he was speaking his mind, because he was engaging
in conversation. But that's not why. The why it is
because he was effective, because he was reaching people, because
(05:44):
he was reaching young people, Because he was getting people
to stop just accepting what they were told and to
start questioning what's out there and to come to their
own conclusion. And that's very powerful, and I mean I
(06:05):
think John's wright. This is very much like the assassination
of JFK or MLK, and it is a way of
saying these people were too effective. Charlie Kirk was too effective.
We have to stop him and in the process probably
magnifying many times over his impact and the longevity of
(06:28):
his impact. I mean, we will see. We don't know
what we'll we'll find out here. Yeah, let's go ahead
and grab skip online three out of Pearl, Mississippi. Hey, Skip,
thanks for calling in, Skip up Skip Skip you there, Nope, okay,
they what Let's do this. Let's take a break. We
may be able to round him up. We'll put him
(06:49):
back in if we can. Also, we're of course got
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if you got a question or comment, or you think
I just misread the situation, I'll give you the floor
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Speaker 12 (09:17):
Hey guys, Max Michelle here, captain of the sig Hour
Shooting Team. I just wanted to take a moment to
congratulate Tom on hitting thirty years on the air with
Gun Talk. It's an incredible accomplishment and well deserved. Tom
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(09:40):
we thank you for these last thirty years and we
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Speaker 2 (09:43):
Buddy, all right, it is open line time. If you
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six Talk Gun or Tom Talk Talk Gun Skip joined us.
He's a in Pearl, Mississippi. Hello, Skip, what's this problem
you got?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I have my Mossburg five hundred, which has the safety
selector switch right on top, right where some can get
to it, on top of the weapon. Yeah, that's very,
very difficult to slide that switch forward to take it
off safe and to pull it back down to be
on on safe. And I'm wondering what can I do
(10:20):
about that, the little screw that holds it on this
machine to where you can't adjust it.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Let me ask you, is is this a new gun?
Or have you had it a while? And if you have,
has it always been like this or has something changed?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Nothing has changed. It's not a new gun. It's old
enough to where the serial number begins with the letter you.
So I've had it a while, and before I got it,
another guy had it.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But it's okay, it's always been this way. Okay, time
to think. You probably have done what I would do,
being not a gunsmithment I'd squirt oil down there and
see if that helps. You probably did that already, though, Yes, sir,
I got two thoughts on it. One would be a
local gunsmith just say hey, can you do something about this?
(11:10):
The other would be to contact Mosburg and say, hey,
I got this problem. Can I send it back to
you guys and have you work on it? And chances
are they going to say, yeah, I get it back here,
we'll take care of it.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Okay. I just I want to know if you'd heard
about it before. So that's great advice. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You know, look, stuff happens. It's all mechanical, and you
know there was maybe some tolerance that's a little bit
off by in some part. And my guess is that
Mosburg's going to say, yeah, send it back in here,
we'll take care of that. You know, if you had
a local gunsmith that you liked or trusted and knew about,
(11:47):
that person could do that. But let's say if Mosburger
call on and give them a chance to make it.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Right, I'll do it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Okay, Oh Jeff, Hey, by the way, Jim's telling me,
says Brown Els to actually sell replacements. He's already replaced
one on that. So if you wanted to get a
replacement for that thumb safe from Brown Els, you could
get that. Just do it yourself.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I could call them too. That sounds good.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
There, you go. Appreciate the call, sir, here's a weird story,
more from the Charlie Kirk saga. And I've seen this
story pop up in a couple of places. I'm actually
looking at it on Fox News. It is a really
good example of how you just can't cannot believe anything
(12:34):
about guns in the media. And I don't look Fox
gets it wrong just as much as CNN gets it wrong.
This is the story that's making the rounds. The rifle
that was used by Charlie Kirk's assassin says that maybe
impossible to trace. It may be hard for the prosecutors
(12:56):
to trace this gun because it's a Mauser Model ninety
eight thirty odd six. It was made before nineteen sixty eight,
when we passed the law that required serial numbers. Because
it was made before nineteen sixty eight, Maus has been
made for more than one hundred years. It may not
(13:18):
have a serial number on nobody. I mean they're looking
at this and saying, Okay, the gun is older than
nineteen sixty eight, so it might not have a serial
number on it, so it's gonna be hard to trace.
I think this is probably a story that's been planted
by the gun banned people. See, this is why we
(13:41):
need serio numbers. Connect the dots with me here, This
is why we have to ban ghost guns because they
don't have serial numbers and they can't be traced. The
only problem with this is this just totally bogus. As
far as I know, Mauser has always put serial numbers
(14:03):
on their rifles always. Did nobody actually go and look
and check what the history was and nobody called the
Mauser company, some major firearms company and ask them, when
you go back, did you put serial numbers on these
guns before nineteen sixty eight. I mean, it really would
(14:26):
be a pretty easy phone call to make for a
journalist to cared about the truth. Cared about the truth?
Did I say that with journalists at the same time,
I think this is it has the look, the feel,
the smell of the gun band lobby placing stories. And
(14:51):
why would they do that because one of their things
they want to do is continue with the bands and
expand the bands on home make guns, what they like
to call ghost guns is simply guns that you make yourself.
For two hundred and fifty years in America, it's been
legal to make your own gun. It's always been legal
to make your own gun. But they don't have control
(15:14):
over a gun that you make yourself. So they want
to outlaw making your own gun. How do they do that?
Or we'll give it a scary name. They've always given
them scary names, assault weapon, Saturday Night special, ghost gun,
sniper rifle, whatever. The next scary thing is, Well, if
(15:34):
you can give it a scary name, we can demonize
it and we can make people afraid of it and
then make people want to control it. Right, it's not
the gun they want to control, it's you, simple as that.
So I think that's what's going on here. I don't
have the data on it yet. I don't have the information,
(15:56):
not yet, but it'd probably come out. It has the
look I've been covering this for fifty years. It has
the feel of enemy action in terms of propaganda from
the gun ban lobby. It's the kind of thing that
they would slip into a reporter. Reporter would go, oh wow,
So they can't trace this gun. So that's going to
(16:17):
make it hard for them to prosecute this guy. No,
it's not. They got the guy. They know he did it,
he said he did it. It's not gonna be a
problem here. This is a bogus story. I continue to
be I don't know why I am. I guess I
just want Fox to be better. But they're not. They
(16:41):
get guns wrong all the time. They're forever saying things
the same things the gun banners say. They talk about
gun violence. I'm sorry, there's really no such thing. There's violence,
But by saying gun violence, we're saying we should do
something about not violence. They're buying into the verbiage of
(17:04):
the gun banners. We should do something. They are like guns.
That's the whole reason that there is a term gun violence.
If you don't believe me, go over to England, because
they talk about knife crime there. Once again, their restrictions
on guns didn't make the bad guys behave That just
(17:25):
made him switch to a different tool. They're still killing
people like crazy with knives. So you read stories there
now constantly about knife crime. And it is the illegal
for you to carry a pocket knife there. Hmm. There's
not a day that I don't have a pocket knife
in my pocket now. Unlike flashlights, they don't generally carry two.
(17:47):
I almost always have two flashlights with me. It's just
part of the system. One is none, two is one.
So the idea that I mean, this is what they do.
They create language that moves public opinion, and they've been
(18:12):
able to get the media to pick up on the
language and repeat it tens of millions of times, to
the point where you don't even hear it. You're not
even aware that it's propaganda anymore. When you hear a
story they talk about gun crime, this gun crime, that
it just goes right past you. You don't even understand
(18:34):
anymore that these are terms of the gun banners. These
are terms that have been focus grouped, they have been studied,
They have then been put forward and put before the
media say these are the terms you need to be using.
Gun crime, life crime, gun violence, Saturday, special assault weapon,
(19:03):
ghost gun, sexy, catchy phrases. Oh yeah, well that'd be
from the creative people who bring you movies. Did you
know there's actually an office in the gun band lobby
that pitches stories to movie and TV producers based on
(19:24):
firearms themes, based on the misuse of guns and how
it's so terrible that we use guns. I mean, you
go all the way back to lethal weapon. You got
gun or posters rather on the wall that are anti
NRA posters got a phrase in lethal weapon. That's an
(19:46):
anti NRA phrase, a piece of script that's in there.
Just it is ongoing and it's propaganda its best. Now,
let's try to get bread in here. And we've got
about a minute or so online. Three, Heyret, got a minute,
go for it, please, Hey.
Speaker 13 (20:01):
I just wanted to bring up some of these trans
Tifa Antifa type groups on x spaces bringing up violence
and arming up and this scary stuff they're talking. Also
wanted to bring up Johnny Derry what a grand gentleman
(20:22):
he was, and how to get to his website. Is
d u r y as dot com?
Speaker 14 (20:30):
Right, No, no, no, it's Dorry's Guns dot com, Dorry's
gun Guns. Okay, yeah, Johnny, did you get the g.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
T thirty rifle?
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Yeah?
Speaker 13 (20:45):
Yeah, he sent it back to me to get my scope.
It's supposed to be in FedEx tomorrow, so I have
good shoot it yet.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
But yeah, I knew they would take care of you.
They're good people over there also, And look, I appreciate
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(22:21):
What do you want to talk about? We'll go there.
My name is Tom Gresham. This is Gun Talking. My
number here is Tom Talk gun because that's me and
that's what we do. Chris called it on line five
out of the Grand Oregon. Hey Chris, you made it
on the gun Talk. What's on your mind, sir?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
When you're talking about the comments that those miuser may
not be able to be traced. And I was watching
Fox News when that comment was made, and the person
that made that comment was a former ATF official. It
wasn't director, but it was. It was on the top
echelon of ATF, and I couldn't believe he made that comment.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I told, oh my god, Oh it solidifies how inept
and incompetent the people, the top people at ATF have
been through the years. Somebody like that would make a
comment like that without even bothering to check with Mauser.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
That's that's exactly what I thought.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
I that.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I you know, I kind of now remember that and
I appreciate the call. Look, I have been trying to
keep up with this, but I went out of the
country for ten days and time zones, you know, it's
like working on news and trying to keep up with things.
So I may have missed a few of the stories
(23:38):
that we went along the way, obviously got the gist
of everything that's going on, and then trying to catch up. Here.
I'm watching right now a little bit of the coverage,
and we're seeing some tributes to Charlie Kirk at some
of the NFL games. Would it be too much to
(24:00):
say this is a turning point? Might be, but it
is to what and where do we go from here?
I don't know, I can imagine. But one of the
things that's great about watching the future transpires, you don't
you consider to make predictions, or you can just be
(24:21):
quiet watch it happen, because when you make predictions, there's
a really good chance you're gonna be wrong. What happens.
As a result of this, I think a lot of
people are going to be more willing to stand up
(24:44):
and speak up. Generally this, I mean, come on, crazy generalization. Okay,
Generally speaking, I think conservatives tend to fall in the
I don't want to tell you what to do category,
Just leave me alone. I don't want to tell people
(25:06):
how to live their lives. My impression there's a lot
of people on the left absolutely want to tell you
everything that you can't do. They're very much into the
what you can't do and sometimes what you must do.
And I know, for me, at least I can speak
(25:27):
for myself on this, I tend to not want to
get into arguments confrontations about it. It's like, fine, you
have your opinion. I have my opinion. The problem is this,
If the other side is loud and pushy, in coercive,
and you just sit back and say, well, I just
don't want to argue with you, then the other side
(25:48):
has the floor, the other side has the attention, the
other side uses up all the air. I think what
may happen is a lot more people are going to
be willing to stand up, show up, to show up
for rallies, to be places. If you have started whatever,
(26:08):
it's seventy hundred thousand people at this funeral slash memorial
President Trump is there. I think people will want to
show up and want to be there. And I think this,
this thing that's going on right now ends up affecting
(26:29):
the midterms. I think it probably does affect the midterm elections,
getting a lot more conservatives to show up to vote
midterms are people don't get as worked up about and
generally speaking, at generally speaking, the party that's in power
in this case, the Republicans gets it in the shins
(26:53):
in the midterm election, the loose seats in Congress. Who
knows what's going to happen. We're going to, you know,
before too long, it's going to happen in the blink
of an eye. We'll see. But you got this going on.
You got Trump, of course, issuing executive orders. You have
(27:13):
the Justice Department with Pam Bondy and Hamat Dylan, and
that's the name you should know because she's in charge
of the Civil Rights Division, and she is a Second
Amendment absolutist, and she's doing things on the Second Amendment
that are very forceful, very impactful. The problem is that
(27:37):
we're a presidential executive order. He just signs it and
it's done. Doing things through the courts is slow. It's
particularly slow and messy right now because you have the
lower courts, which are actually called the inferior courts. I
wasn't gonna say ignoring, but that's not the right term.
(28:01):
They are defying the Supreme Court. They're saying, it's not
that we don't understand what you said is that we
simply disagree with it, and so we're going to rule
contrary to what the Supreme Court has said. That is
absolutely not the role of the inferior courts. It's not
a term I'm making up. That is an actual official term.
(28:23):
The lower courts are called inferior courts, and they are
supposed to follow the precedent set by the Supreme Court.
And they are purposely ruling against secondment of rights over
and over and over again, and the Supreme Court has
to keep going back and say, no, that's wrong. Of
course they're doing it all these other cases involving Trump
(28:45):
as well. I don't know what the course of action
is that's available to the Supreme Court. I don't know
what they can do other than just keep issuing rulings.
It's not like they can go in and fire lower
court coort judges. That's going to be interesting interesting one
(29:06):
to watch see what happens there. But I think that
over the next three years to the end of Trump's term,
we're going to see some massive changes in the way
the Court's rule on second amendment. With the Supreme Court
rules on second Amendment issues on what happens in terms
(29:28):
of gun rights, on what happens in terms of individual
sheriff's offices that are dragging their heels on issue and
concealed carry permits. The US Justice Department is now going
to them and say, knock it off, you can't do
that anymore. We're just going to see a lot of
positive things happening. It's going to be fascinating to watch.
We are at a time and I mean, I know
(29:53):
it's just so tempting to say we're at a turning point,
but that's kind of where we are. Where it goes
from here, nobody really knows, but I think we're going
to look back and say, yeah, things changed right now
with the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and it will affect
the Second Amendment and gun rice as well as so
(30:14):
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We got David on the line here, line two out
of New Boston, Texas. David, what you been shooting? Man?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Well, I shoot a variety of things. I have a
little bit of a ranger report here a couple of
weeks ago. Yeah, a fella call in about twenty two
magnum and he has a AMT automatic two and twenty
two magnum which I'm looking at mine right now. And
as ammunition issue, which you discussed quite accurately, I tried
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several brands and the only thing I found that will
reliably feed without various malfunctions is the Western Winchester twenty
two magnum. I don't know what the differences in the
O give on it, ojive whatever, right, but he is
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You were spot on that ammunition. I just thought i'd
put that in ohen. Theres a little flyer there. They
made that firearm in a couple of different slide and
barrel links, and they also put it out I know
in a thirty caliber.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Oh interesting, but I want to go to go back.
Just let's make sure people are picking up what you're
putting down here, which is twenty three rim fires and
twenty two magnums, maybe even especially more so. Are so
finicky and so ammunition dependent. If you've got one that's
jamming or not feeding or something, keep trying different brands
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of ammo, keep trying different times. I mean, like, if
it's Winchester, you may have to try two different or
two or three different ones within Winchester. And when you
find the one that works, go out and buy a
bunch of it, because that's the one that works in
your gun.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
You are right on there. You can't go wrong with that. Okay.
Another thing fella called in a few weeks ago wanting
to ask about do they make a Luger pattern twenty
two rim fire, which you pointed out, Yes they do.
IRMA does, and I'm looking at one of mine right now.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Oh, and.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
They did during their production run make a couple of
internal changes due to issues they had at the time,
and they I believe made two different internal and later
they went to plastic grip. Both of mine have the
original wooden grips. One is in a nice box, original
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and it's so probably ninety ninety five percent low cerial
number stuff like that, but it does work. And there again,
different ammunition makes a difference in different firearms.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
It's yeah, way it is, and twenty two rim fires
are really particular about that. I think part of it
is that there's a lot of variety or variation in
twenty two ammo itself. So you just got to fly.
And sometimes it's not the most expensive ones, like you've
found out that the Winchester was working for you, and
sometimes you got to go to more expensive ammal, but
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a lot of times just whatever's cheap is working. You
just got to find the right one.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
You're right, You are right. I made the mistake one
time of thinking, hey, I can buy this brick of
five hundred and I about three of them, and in
my Ruger single six, where most quality rounds would slide
in and out of the cylinder, some of these I
had to actually push in get in, and I was disappointed.
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I had occasional flyers things like that, and it's like, okay,
I gave a couple of those bricks away because I
didn't even want to try and plink with it.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yep, no exactly, because you know, if you've got them,
you're going to try them again. It's just going to
frustrate you. So just make them a gift to somebody else.
And you know, I don't know what it is, but
we seem to have to pay for our education over
and over again, don't we.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I've done that.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
We've all done that. Hey, I appreciate the calls there.
That's the good information there. The if you got a
twenty two and it's become a gam omatic on you,
two things. One is clean them, because a lot of
twenty two ammo is dirty and it ends up coming
up the works. Also, don't over oil your guns. AR
(37:02):
Fifteen's maybe an exception. They like running wet, A lot
of them do. But a lot of guns, if you
put a lot of oil on them, it ends up
guming up. The oil kind of congeals and it gets thicker.
And also, of course an oily surface is going to
pick up dust and dirt and grunt grit. It's going
to stick to it. So try to use the least
(37:25):
amount of oil possible. And the other thing is I mean,
really trying different ammo it's it's amazing how much difference
it can make, not just in functionality, but if you
have a like a rifle that's particularly accurate, you would
be stunned at seeing the changes in accuracy and trying
different ambo. In that case, you may end up finding
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that you got to go to the more expensive AMMO.
You go to something like an ELU ten X or RWs,
and some of that stuff is pretty pricey, but man,
you can shrink groups by half. A lot of it
are more than that with some of the stuff. Now,
unless you're a competition shooter, you probably wouldn't use that
(38:08):
a lot, but it'd be kind of fun to know
what your rifle can do. If you've got a nice
rifle and say, well, let's just see how good it
can be, you might buy a box or two of
different types. The real serious competition shooters that only do
they try different AMMO, they try different lots, and when
they find a lot that works, they note that lot number.
(38:30):
It's written on the inside of the end of the
box cardboard box. So they buy a whole bunch of
AMMO in just that lot. And there are websites that
cater to twenty two competitive shooters and you can buy
buy the lot number and match that AMMO specifically to
your gun. Yeah, it gets off finnicky and crazy and esoteric,
(38:52):
but that's kind of part of the fun. I mean,
don't even get me started on what us handlookers do
try to match primers and us and everything else. I
love this. On x somebody just posted the number of
(39:15):
firearms and ballistic experts on Twitter has gone up a
thousand times in the last week, apparently, and at the
truth offering an error never in doubt a lot of
people saying things about guns that they just don't know anything,
And the problem is they don't even know that they
don't know. Wouldn't you think we don't know you wouldn't
(39:39):
axt I was gonna say, wouldn't you think people would
want to make sure they were right or at least
they were accurate, But evidently not. So. Being first is important.
Being outrageous has now replaced even being first, because outrageous
gets you traffic, it gets you engagement, it gets you followers,
(40:04):
and that gets you money. It's really as simple as that.
When my wife taught American history to seventh graders, she
used to say, so this happened, this happened, this happened.
Why did that happen? And they would have all these
different answers, she says, No, it's always the same reason.
(40:25):
It's always money. All the things that happened, and well,
what about power? Money? What about money? When you start
drilling it down, it all happened because of money. So
we're getting these crazy I don't even want to call
them reports, but you know, journalism kind of journalism reports
(40:53):
and it's all clickbait. How many times have you seen
a headline that doesn't actually tell you anything. It teases
the story, but you got to click on it to
see it. There's not much real information out there. There's
just clickbaits, trolling for engagement, trying to run up the numbers. It's, uh,
(41:17):
just so you know on Twitter now X, I'm at
eighty one thousand followers or something. I don't monetize that
account at all. I don't get a dime off of that.
People say you could make money on it, Yeah you could.
I don't. Does that make me dumb? Oh? Probably? Probably so,
(41:45):
almost certainly, But that's just the way it is. I'm
not going to do that. So there's all of that
as you head to the week, because it's still gonna
be a lot of news about Charlie Kirk and the
investigation and what we're going to know about it, and
the reaction on the left, on the right, and center
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and everywhere. Try to find some quiet time to give
it some thought where you're not just reacting and not
just posting your outrage, because you're just adding to the
fire when you do that. Go sit out in the
back porch, find some grass to stand on, maybe a
(42:31):
little introspection, a little you know, what's my role in
all of this. Maybe my role is simply just to
become and watch it all happen. Or maybe it's to
find inspiration in it and find something I can do
to help one person, many people, whatever, or maybe get
involved politically. I'm going to show up at rallies, I'm
going to do things. This is maybe going to invigorate
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a lot of people to say, Okay, I'm not sitting
on the sidelines anymore, and that's a good thing. Look
sitting on the sidelines is not necessarily a good thing
in politics, because if you let the other side have
all to say, it means that's not a fair representation
of how the public and how the population feels. You
got to represent a simple as that. In the meantime,
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
All right, weight about with you, Tom Gresham. This is
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Tom Talk Gun. Rusty called in from Greenwood, Louisiana. May Rusty,
(00:36):
you got an idea here, something out of Australia.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yes, I was just talking about gun control and how
it doesn't save lives, which it doesn't. We all know that,
but I you know, years ago Australia comm schedued all
guns pretty much. You know, they had to do a
gun turning in. But I read David on Friday or Thursday,
it was that one state over there said they had
too many killings by machetes and they've outlawed machetes. They
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gave a certain date that you're turning every shed you
own and if you don't have it in by that day.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
And call it one.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It's a three thousand dollars fine in thirty days.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
In jail owning.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So I guess they go to screw drivers.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Next, putting guns on the restricted lists didn't make people behave,
so they switched to machetes. Now they say, well, we
do something bout machetes. And then just as you say,
what's the next thing, are they just going to keep saying, Okay,
we're going to keep banning things that bad people use.
The bad people will ignore it, The criminals, the murderers
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will ignore that, the good people will obey the law.
And all you're going to get out of that is
a more defensiveless population and a criminal population that can
just do whatever it wants to do exactly right.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
One other thing I want to say, you talking about
of drawing, you're done. We have a church security team
of fifteen people at I are Cabot Church, which I'm
ahead of it. But twice a year we state started fighting.
The guy comes in the state to so device and
he was telling people how to get your guns out
and not. You know, one guy had to zip up
bag in his pocket, you know, and he said that
don't work anyway. I talked to him. I said, why
(02:09):
don't you all through our class occasionally every now you
hot to draw and let everybody pull their gun, you know,
because all we make sure everybody's you know, no am
an issue, nobody's gone. But I always through the class
you had to draw and to see where you're making mistakes.
And you know, he really liked that, and he said
he doesn't all his classes now.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Interesting, as long as you got people who know to
keep point him in a safe direction, even when they
know they're unloaded.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
He inspects every gun. You got to take everything done.
Later on, they goes box checks every gun to make
sure that.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah matter, nothing doesn't matter. They still got a point
of the safe direction, no matter what.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
But a lot of them will be taking tie wraps
now and put to the you know, the chamber to
where it's put it, you know.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Uh yeah, yeah all that.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But I guess my point would be I would still
make sure people understood that even though the gun is unloaded,
even if it's got a tire rapp or twist tie
or whatever you got on it, Uh, you still don't
point a gun at people, period.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
No matter what exact right, we don't point it the
co instructor. You just how to draw, you.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Know, Okay, all right, good deal, all right, I appreciate that.
Thanks Rusty. Let's grab John online too out Hot Springs Village, Arkansas.
Hey John, you're on gun Talk. What's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (03:21):
Hey Tom? I got to follow up in the last color.
If the dam machete is, what are we going to
cook cut of stakes with? But on my question was this,
I'm all enough to see the jfk assassination when I
was a little boy on television, and the MFK assassination sixty.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
So this Charlie Kirt thing, it's.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Not a murder, its side of school shooting. It's an assassination.
My point is we need to see documentaries on this.
This is our movement. This is people like you and me.
I believe you and me. I'm not talking, I'm not
thinking to you, but I think this is about us
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in this is this is this is a statement in
America that is propowed as m OK and Jeff K.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I think you're right, and I think that has not
been fully grasped yet by a lot of people. It
will be, But I do think you're right on the
on the and I look I'm a guy who I'm
a wordsmith. I'm a writer and I'm an editor, and
words matter. How you use them really makes the difference.
I am doing it on purpose, using both assassination and
(04:42):
murder for this reason. Let me explain. There are people
who would say an assassination might be justified. There's almost
no one I know of who would say a murder
would be justified. Well, there are those who would say,
you know, the murder of the insurance executive was justified.
(05:03):
There are some really twisted people. But I'm using both
terms to try to make a point that this cannot
be justified no matter how you want to classify it.
It is a heinous act. It's an assassination, it's a murder,
it's the willful killing of someone. Because and here's the
(05:23):
interesting part, and now thanks for your call. Because why
because he was speaking his mind, because he was engaging
in conversation. But that's not why. The why it is
because he was effective, because he was reaching people, because
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he was reaching young people, Because he was getting people
to stop just accepting what they were told and to
start questioning what's out there and to come to their
own conclusion. And that's very powerful, and I mean I
(06:05):
think John's wright. This is very much like the assassination
of JFK or MLK, and it is a way of
saying these people were too effective. Charlie Kirk was too effective.
We have to stop him and in the process probably
magnifying many times over his impact and the longevity of
(06:28):
his impact. I mean, we will see. We don't know
what we'll we'll find out here. Yeah, let's go ahead
and grab skip online three out of Pearl, Mississippi. Hey, Skip,
thanks for calling in, Skip up Skip Skip you there, Nope, okay,
they what Let's do this. Let's take a break. We
may be able to round him up. We'll put him
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back in if we can. Also, we're of course got
some open lines for it if you want to join us,
if you got a question or comment, or you think
I just misread the situation, I'll give you the floor
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Speaker 12 (09:17):
Hey guys, Max Michelle here, captain of the sig Hour
Shooting Team. I just wanted to take a moment to
congratulate Tom on hitting thirty years on the air with
Gun Talk. It's an incredible accomplishment and well deserved. Tom
has always brought us the information that we wanted and
needed to know as it relates to the Second Amendment
or a gun enthusiast or anyone out there that's carying
to protect our loved ones and our great nation. So Tom,
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we thank you for these last thirty years and we
look forward to thirty more.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Buddy, all right, it is open line time. If you
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six Talk Gun or Tom Talk Talk Gun Skip joined us.
He's a in Pearl, Mississippi. Hello, Skip, what's this problem
you got?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I have my Mossburg five hundred, which has the safety
selector switch right on top, right where some can get
to it, on top of the weapon. Yeah, that's very,
very difficult to slide that switch forward to take it
off safe and to pull it back down to be
on on safe. And I'm wondering what can I do
(10:20):
about that, the little screw that holds it on this
machine to where you can't adjust it.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Let me ask you, is is this a new gun?
Or have you had it a while? And if you have,
has it always been like this or has something changed?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Nothing has changed. It's not a new gun. It's old
enough to where the serial number begins with the letter you.
So I've had it a while, and before I got it,
another guy had it.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
But it's okay, it's always been this way. Okay, time
to think. You probably have done what I would do,
being not a gunsmithment I'd squirt oil down there and
see if that helps. You probably did that already, though, Yes, sir,
I got two thoughts on it. One would be a
local gunsmith just say hey, can you do something about this?
(11:10):
The other would be to contact Mosburg and say, hey,
I got this problem. Can I send it back to
you guys and have you work on it? And chances
are they going to say, yeah, I get it back here,
we'll take care of it.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Okay. I just I want to know if you'd heard
about it before. So that's great advice. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You know, look, stuff happens. It's all mechanical, and you
know there was maybe some tolerance that's a little bit
off by in some part. And my guess is that
Mosburg's going to say, yeah, send it back in here,
we'll take care of that. You know, if you had
a local gunsmith that you liked or trusted and knew about,
(11:47):
that person could do that. But let's say if Mosburger
call on and give them a chance to make it.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Right, I'll do it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Okay, Oh Jeff, Hey, by the way, Jim's telling me,
says Brown Els to actually sell replacements. He's already replaced
one on that. So if you wanted to get a
replacement for that thumb safe from Brown Els, you could
get that. Just do it yourself.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I could call them too. That sounds good.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
There, you go. Appreciate the call, sir, here's a weird story,
more from the Charlie Kirk saga. And I've seen this
story pop up in a couple of places. I'm actually
looking at it on Fox News. It is a really
good example of how you just can't cannot believe anything
(12:34):
about guns in the media. And I don't look Fox
gets it wrong just as much as CNN gets it wrong.
This is the story that's making the rounds. The rifle
that was used by Charlie Kirk's assassin says that maybe
impossible to trace. It may be hard for the prosecutors
(12:56):
to trace this gun because it's a Mauser Model ninety
eight thirty odd six. It was made before nineteen sixty eight,
when we passed the law that required serial numbers. Because
it was made before nineteen sixty eight, Maus has been
made for more than one hundred years. It may not
(13:18):
have a serial number on nobody. I mean they're looking
at this and saying, Okay, the gun is older than
nineteen sixty eight, so it might not have a serial
number on it, so it's gonna be hard to trace.
I think this is probably a story that's been planted
by the gun banned people. See, this is why we
(13:41):
need serio numbers. Connect the dots with me here, This
is why we have to ban ghost guns because they
don't have serial numbers and they can't be traced. The
only problem with this is this just totally bogus. As
far as I know, Mauser has always put serial numbers
(14:03):
on their rifles always. Did nobody actually go and look
and check what the history was and nobody called the
Mauser company, some major firearms company and ask them, when
you go back, did you put serial numbers on these
guns before nineteen sixty eight. I mean, it really would
(14:26):
be a pretty easy phone call to make for a
journalist to cared about the truth. Cared about the truth?
Did I say that with journalists at the same time,
I think this is it has the look, the feel,
the smell of the gun band lobby placing stories. And
(14:51):
why would they do that because one of their things
they want to do is continue with the bands and
expand the bands on home make guns, what they like
to call ghost guns is simply guns that you make yourself.
For two hundred and fifty years in America, it's been
legal to make your own gun. It's always been legal
to make your own gun. But they don't have control
(15:14):
over a gun that you make yourself. So they want
to outlaw making your own gun. How do they do that?
Or we'll give it a scary name. They've always given
them scary names, assault weapon, Saturday Night special, ghost gun,
sniper rifle, whatever. The next scary thing is, Well, if
(15:34):
you can give it a scary name, we can demonize
it and we can make people afraid of it and
then make people want to control it. Right, it's not
the gun they want to control, it's you, simple as that.
So I think that's what's going on here. I don't
have the data on it yet. I don't have the information,
(15:56):
not yet, but it'd probably come out. It has the
look I've been covering this for fifty years. It has
the feel of enemy action in terms of propaganda from
the gun ban lobby. It's the kind of thing that
they would slip into a reporter. Reporter would go, oh wow,
So they can't trace this gun. So that's going to
(16:17):
make it hard for them to prosecute this guy. No,
it's not. They got the guy. They know he did it,
he said he did it. It's not gonna be a
problem here. This is a bogus story. I continue to
be I don't know why I am. I guess I
just want Fox to be better. But they're not. They
(16:41):
get guns wrong all the time. They're forever saying things
the same things the gun banners say. They talk about
gun violence. I'm sorry, there's really no such thing. There's violence,
But by saying gun violence, we're saying we should do
something about not violence. They're buying into the verbiage of
(17:04):
the gun banners. We should do something. They are like guns.
That's the whole reason that there is a term gun violence.
If you don't believe me, go over to England, because
they talk about knife crime there. Once again, their restrictions
on guns didn't make the bad guys behave That just
(17:25):
made him switch to a different tool. They're still killing
people like crazy with knives. So you read stories there
now constantly about knife crime. And it is the illegal
for you to carry a pocket knife there. Hmm. There's
not a day that I don't have a pocket knife
in my pocket now. Unlike flashlights, they don't generally carry two.
(17:47):
I almost always have two flashlights with me. It's just
part of the system. One is none, two is one.
So the idea that I mean, this is what they do.
They create language that moves public opinion, and they've been
(18:12):
able to get the media to pick up on the
language and repeat it tens of millions of times, to
the point where you don't even hear it. You're not
even aware that it's propaganda anymore. When you hear a
story they talk about gun crime, this gun crime, that
it just goes right past you. You don't even understand
(18:34):
anymore that these are terms of the gun banners. These
are terms that have been focus grouped, they have been studied,
They have then been put forward and put before the
media say these are the terms you need to be using.
Gun crime, life crime, gun violence, Saturday, special assault weapon,
(19:03):
ghost gun, sexy, catchy phrases. Oh yeah, well that'd be
from the creative people who bring you movies. Did you
know there's actually an office in the gun band lobby
that pitches stories to movie and TV producers based on
(19:24):
firearms themes, based on the misuse of guns and how
it's so terrible that we use guns. I mean, you
go all the way back to lethal weapon. You got
gun or posters rather on the wall that are anti
NRA posters got a phrase in lethal weapon. That's an
(19:46):
anti NRA phrase, a piece of script that's in there.
Just it is ongoing and it's propaganda its best. Now,
let's try to get bread in here. And we've got
about a minute or so online. Three, Heyret, got a minute,
go for it, please, Hey.
Speaker 13 (20:01):
I just wanted to bring up some of these trans
Tifa Antifa type groups on x spaces bringing up violence
and arming up and this scary stuff they're talking. Also
wanted to bring up Johnny Derry what a grand gentleman
(20:22):
he was, and how to get to his website. Is
d u r y as dot com?
Speaker 14 (20:30):
Right, No, no, no, it's Dorry's Guns dot com, Dorry's
gun Guns. Okay, yeah, Johnny, did you get the g.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
T thirty rifle?
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (20:45):
Yeah, he sent it back to me to get my scope.
It's supposed to be in FedEx tomorrow, so I have
good shoot it yet.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
But yeah, I knew they would take care of you.
They're good people over there also, And look, I appreciate
it that the thing I didn't went out earlier, probably
should have been mentioned this all along, is that any
gun you buy from Dury's Guns, whether it's a new
gun or used gun comes with a lifetime guarantee if
anything happens to it, basically forever. They have a team
(21:14):
of gunsmiths. They will fix it. If they can't fix it,
they will replace it. And that just continues with the gun.
I think that stays with the gun. I don't know
if it's for the original owner or if it stays
with the gun. I have to check with them. So
these GG thirty rifles, and you buy one, you get
the lifetime warranty from Dorry's Guns on top of the
(21:37):
manufacturer's warranty of course, but you can always send it
back to Johnny and his crew and they will take
care of it. So there's a bonus that you get
from buying from Johnny. By the way, if you don't know,
if you go to durisguns dot com, they have a
gazillion used guns there and they have some really good deals.
But also if you're thinking about selling some guns, they
(21:58):
buy guns. One gun or one hundred guns, doesn't matter.
Jurisguns dot com. Give them a holler uh. They will
come and either look at your guns or making offer
over the phone. Good people. I trust them. I know
you can't do all right back with the open lines.
(22:21):
What do you want to talk about? We'll go there.
My name is Tom Gresham. This is Gun Talking. My
number here is Tom Talk gun because that's me and
that's what we do. Chris called it on line five
out of the Grand Oregon. Hey Chris, you made it
on the gun Talk. What's on your mind, sir?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
When you're talking about the comments that those miuser may
not be able to be traced. And I was watching
Fox News when that comment was made, and the person
that made that comment was a former ATF official. It
wasn't director, but it was. It was on the top
echelon of ATF, and I couldn't believe he made that comment.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I told, oh my god, Oh it solidifies how inept
and incompetent the people, the top people at ATF have
been through the years. Somebody like that would make a
comment like that without even bothering to check with Mauser.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
That's that's exactly what I thought.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
I that.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I you know, I kind of now remember that and
I appreciate the call. Look, I have been trying to
keep up with this, but I went out of the
country for ten days and time zones, you know, it's
like working on news and trying to keep up with things.
So I may have missed a few of the stories
(23:38):
that we went along the way, obviously got the gist
of everything that's going on, and then trying to catch up. Here.
I'm watching right now a little bit of the coverage,
and we're seeing some tributes to Charlie Kirk at some
of the NFL games. Would it be too much to
(24:00):
say this is a turning point? Might be, but it
is to what and where do we go from here?
I don't know, I can imagine. But one of the
things that's great about watching the future transpires, you don't
you consider to make predictions, or you can just be
(24:21):
quiet watch it happen, because when you make predictions, there's
a really good chance you're gonna be wrong. What happens.
As a result of this, I think a lot of
people are going to be more willing to stand up
(24:44):
and speak up. Generally this, I mean, come on, crazy generalization. Okay,
Generally speaking, I think conservatives tend to fall in the
I don't want to tell you what to do category,
Just leave me alone. I don't want to tell people
(25:06):
how to live their lives. My impression there's a lot
of people on the left absolutely want to tell you
everything that you can't do. They're very much into the
what you can't do and sometimes what you must do.
And I know, for me, at least I can speak
(25:27):
for myself on this, I tend to not want to
get into arguments confrontations about it. It's like, fine, you
have your opinion. I have my opinion. The problem is this,
If the other side is loud and pushy, in coercive,
and you just sit back and say, well, I just
don't want to argue with you, then the other side
(25:48):
has the floor, the other side has the attention, the
other side uses up all the air. I think what
may happen is a lot more people are going to
be willing to stand up, show up, to show up
for rallies, to be places. If you have started whatever,
(26:08):
it's seventy hundred thousand people at this funeral slash memorial
President Trump is there. I think people will want to
show up and want to be there. And I think this,
this thing that's going on right now ends up affecting
(26:29):
the midterms. I think it probably does affect the midterm elections,
getting a lot more conservatives to show up to vote
midterms are people don't get as worked up about and
generally speaking, at generally speaking, the party that's in power
in this case, the Republicans gets it in the shins
(26:53):
in the midterm election, the loose seats in Congress. Who
knows what's going to happen. We're going to, you know,
before too long, it's going to happen in the blink
of an eye. We'll see. But you got this going on.
You got Trump, of course, issuing executive orders. You have
(27:13):
the Justice Department with Pam Bondy and Hamat Dylan, and
that's the name you should know because she's in charge
of the Civil Rights Division, and she is a Second
Amendment absolutist, and she's doing things on the Second Amendment
that are very forceful, very impactful. The problem is that
(27:37):
we're a presidential executive order. He just signs it and
it's done. Doing things through the courts is slow. It's
particularly slow and messy right now because you have the
lower courts, which are actually called the inferior courts. I
wasn't gonna say ignoring, but that's not the right term.
(28:01):
They are defying the Supreme Court. They're saying, it's not
that we don't understand what you said is that we
simply disagree with it, and so we're going to rule
contrary to what the Supreme Court has said. That is
absolutely not the role of the inferior courts. It's not
a term I'm making up. That is an actual official term.
(28:23):
The lower courts are called inferior courts, and they are
supposed to follow the precedent set by the Supreme Court.
And they are purposely ruling against secondment of rights over
and over and over again, and the Supreme Court has
to keep going back and say, no, that's wrong. Of
course they're doing it all these other cases involving Trump
(28:45):
as well. I don't know what the course of action
is that's available to the Supreme Court. I don't know
what they can do other than just keep issuing rulings.
It's not like they can go in and fire lower
court coort judges. That's going to be interesting interesting one
(29:06):
to watch see what happens there. But I think that
over the next three years to the end of Trump's term,
we're going to see some massive changes in the way
the Court's rule on second amendment. With the Supreme Court
rules on second Amendment issues on what happens in terms
(29:28):
of gun rights, on what happens in terms of individual
sheriff's offices that are dragging their heels on issue and
concealed carry permits. The US Justice Department is now going
to them and say, knock it off, you can't do
that anymore. We're just going to see a lot of
positive things happening. It's going to be fascinating to watch.
We are at a time and I mean, I know
(29:53):
it's just so tempting to say we're at a turning point,
but that's kind of where we are. Where it goes
from here, nobody really knows, but I think we're going
to look back and say, yeah, things changed right now
with the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and it will affect
the Second Amendment and gun rice as well as so
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We got David on the line here, line two out
of New Boston, Texas. David, what you been shooting? Man?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Well, I shoot a variety of things. I have a
little bit of a ranger report here a couple of
weeks ago. Yeah, a fella call in about twenty two
magnum and he has a AMT automatic two and twenty
two magnum which I'm looking at mine right now. And
as ammunition issue, which you discussed quite accurately, I tried
(33:09):
several brands and the only thing I found that will
reliably feed without various malfunctions is the Western Winchester twenty
two magnum. I don't know what the differences in the
O give on it, ojive whatever, right, but he is
(33:31):
You were spot on that ammunition. I just thought i'd
put that in ohen. Theres a little flyer there. They
made that firearm in a couple of different slide and
barrel links, and they also put it out I know
in a thirty caliber.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Oh interesting, but I want to go to go back.
Just let's make sure people are picking up what you're
putting down here, which is twenty three rim fires and
twenty two magnums, maybe even especially more so. Are so
finicky and so ammunition dependent. If you've got one that's
jamming or not feeding or something, keep trying different brands
(34:07):
of ammo, keep trying different times. I mean, like, if
it's Winchester, you may have to try two different or
two or three different ones within Winchester. And when you
find the one that works, go out and buy a
bunch of it, because that's the one that works in
your gun.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
You are right on there. You can't go wrong with that. Okay.
Another thing fella called in a few weeks ago wanting
to ask about do they make a Luger pattern twenty
two rim fire, which you pointed out, Yes they do.
IRMA does, and I'm looking at one of mine right now.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Oh, and.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
They did during their production run make a couple of
internal changes due to issues they had at the time,
and they I believe made two different internal and later
they went to plastic grip. Both of mine have the
original wooden grips. One is in a nice box, original
(35:09):
and it's so probably ninety ninety five percent low cerial
number stuff like that, but it does work. And there again,
different ammunition makes a difference in different firearms.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
It's yeah, way it is, and twenty two rim fires
are really particular about that. I think part of it
is that there's a lot of variety or variation in
twenty two ammo itself. So you just got to fly.
And sometimes it's not the most expensive ones, like you've
found out that the Winchester was working for you, and
sometimes you got to go to more expensive ammal, but
(35:46):
a lot of times just whatever's cheap is working. You
just got to find the right one.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
You're right, You are right. I made the mistake one
time of thinking, hey, I can buy this brick of
five hundred and I about three of them, and in
my Ruger single six, where most quality rounds would slide
in and out of the cylinder, some of these I
had to actually push in get in, and I was disappointed.
(36:14):
I had occasional flyers things like that, and it's like, okay,
I gave a couple of those bricks away because I
didn't even want to try and plink with it.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yep, no exactly, because you know, if you've got them,
you're going to try them again. It's just going to
frustrate you. So just make them a gift to somebody else.
And you know, I don't know what it is, but
we seem to have to pay for our education over
and over again, don't we.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I've done that.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
We've all done that. Hey, I appreciate the calls there.
That's the good information there. The if you got a
twenty two and it's become a gam omatic on you,
two things. One is clean them, because a lot of
twenty two ammo is dirty and it ends up coming
up the works. Also, don't over oil your guns. AR
(37:02):
Fifteen's maybe an exception. They like running wet, A lot
of them do. But a lot of guns, if you
put a lot of oil on them, it ends up
guming up. The oil kind of congeals and it gets thicker.
And also, of course an oily surface is going to
pick up dust and dirt and grunt grit. It's going
to stick to it. So try to use the least
(37:25):
amount of oil possible. And the other thing is I mean,
really trying different ammo it's it's amazing how much difference
it can make, not just in functionality, but if you
have a like a rifle that's particularly accurate, you would
be stunned at seeing the changes in accuracy and trying
different ambo. In that case, you may end up finding
(37:47):
that you got to go to the more expensive AMMO.
You go to something like an ELU ten X or RWs,
and some of that stuff is pretty pricey, but man,
you can shrink groups by half. A lot of it
are more than that with some of the stuff. Now,
unless you're a competition shooter, you probably wouldn't use that
(38:08):
a lot, but it'd be kind of fun to know
what your rifle can do. If you've got a nice
rifle and say, well, let's just see how good it
can be, you might buy a box or two of
different types. The real serious competition shooters that only do
they try different AMMO, they try different lots, and when
they find a lot that works, they note that lot number.
(38:30):
It's written on the inside of the end of the
box cardboard box. So they buy a whole bunch of
AMMO in just that lot. And there are websites that
cater to twenty two competitive shooters and you can buy
buy the lot number and match that AMMO specifically to
your gun. Yeah, it gets off finnicky and crazy and esoteric,
(38:52):
but that's kind of part of the fun. I mean,
don't even get me started on what us handlookers do
try to match primers and us and everything else. I
love this. On x somebody just posted the number of
(39:15):
firearms and ballistic experts on Twitter has gone up a
thousand times in the last week, apparently, and at the
truth offering an error never in doubt a lot of
people saying things about guns that they just don't know anything,
And the problem is they don't even know that they
don't know. Wouldn't you think we don't know you wouldn't
(39:39):
axt I was gonna say, wouldn't you think people would
want to make sure they were right or at least
they were accurate, But evidently not. So. Being first is important.
Being outrageous has now replaced even being first, because outrageous
gets you traffic, it gets you engagement, it gets you followers,
(40:04):
and that gets you money. It's really as simple as that.
When my wife taught American history to seventh graders, she
used to say, so this happened, this happened, this happened.
Why did that happen? And they would have all these
different answers, she says, No, it's always the same reason.
(40:25):
It's always money. All the things that happened, and well,
what about power? Money? What about money? When you start
drilling it down, it all happened because of money. So
we're getting these crazy I don't even want to call
them reports, but you know, journalism kind of journalism reports
(40:53):
and it's all clickbait. How many times have you seen
a headline that doesn't actually tell you anything. It teases
the story, but you got to click on it to
see it. There's not much real information out there. There's
just clickbaits, trolling for engagement, trying to run up the numbers. It's, uh,
(41:17):
just so you know on Twitter now X, I'm at
eighty one thousand followers or something. I don't monetize that
account at all. I don't get a dime off of that.
People say you could make money on it, Yeah you could.
I don't. Does that make me dumb? Oh? Probably? Probably so,
(41:45):
almost certainly, But that's just the way it is. I'm
not going to do that. So there's all of that
as you head to the week, because it's still gonna
be a lot of news about Charlie Kirk and the
investigation and what we're going to know about it, and
the reaction on the left, on the right, and center
(42:05):
and everywhere. Try to find some quiet time to give
it some thought where you're not just reacting and not
just posting your outrage, because you're just adding to the
fire when you do that. Go sit out in the
back porch, find some grass to stand on, maybe a
(42:31):
little introspection, a little you know, what's my role in
all of this. Maybe my role is simply just to
become and watch it all happen. Or maybe it's to
find inspiration in it and find something I can do
to help one person, many people, whatever, or maybe get
involved politically. I'm going to show up at rallies, I'm
going to do things. This is maybe going to invigorate
(42:51):
a lot of people to say, Okay, I'm not sitting
on the sidelines anymore, and that's a good thing. Look
sitting on the sidelines is not necessarily a good thing
in politics, because if you let the other side have
all to say, it means that's not a fair representation
of how the public and how the population feels. You
got to represent a simple as that. In the meantime,
(43:12):
you got to buy guns and Amma, there's some really
cheap deals out there, and I'm stocking up on Ammo
right now. At the same time, I'm buying some of
the good stuff, like Black Hills. When you want better Ammo,
it's worth spending some ection of money now and there.
Go out and do some shooting. Take somebody with you,
have some fun. If you want to join us for
the after show, give us a call right now. In
the meantime, be safe, watch those muzzles and carry everywhere
(43:35):
you go.
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