February 23, 2023 • 35 mins
Chris and Rob use the playoff-hopeful Portland Trail Blazers’ decision to rest Damian Lillard and Jerami Grant following a series of travel delays is further proof that Load Management is killing the NBA, share their thoughts on Aaron Rodgers’ infamous darkness retreat and take Gilbert Arenas to task for suggesting that players from the 1980s couldn’t compete with guys from the 90s, 00s and today.
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Eye Couple this right, chill, This is the way sports
talk radio should be. I am Chris Brussar, my partner
is Rob Parker. What's up man? What's happened to mister
Chris Brussard? How are you right? Chill? Where'd they learned
you learn? Where? Ye? Where'd you learn that at? I
don't even know, but at at Oberlin College. Speaking of Oberlin,
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one of your teammates and friend George Smith, who's teaching
and was before me. He's been older than you. No, no, no,
he was a he was either a senior, right, I
guess he was a senior when I was a fresh
georgiest medio like a year or two. But he knows you,
you know, Oh yeah, I know George Well yeah, yeah,
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he was a track star. He yeah, he just uh,
he's teaching now too. And he had me on one
of his classes on zoom the other day, so he said,
make sure to say hi to mister Christmas shar good dude, good. Yeah.
Everything uh, everything cope astatic in Jersey. Did you guys
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get hit by anything or no? No, we've been good.
I mean, you know, we've had some rain, but nothing
I know, I mean I know out there a little rain.
Oh my gosh, are we gonna survive? It's the apocalypse coming?
Chris stopping saw. You grew up in New York City,
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lived in Detroit for twenty years for a few years,
and you can't handle a little rain, a little sunshower. No, no,
it's been calling. I need I need some soup and
a black what's cold? Fifty sixty degrees? Chris? It was
fifty two today you stopped. Wow. When I wake up,
look at my weather app and it says fifty two.
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I'm all smiles. I'm all smiles, fifty two. No rain,
I'm good. But we hardcore out here, no doubt. All right,
it is a TV theme song Thursday, looking forward to that.
Oh and that also means it's a Tyson's Tower trivier.
No wonder Alex is here. I wonder why it was
here tonight Tyson's Tower trivia. Rob G is improving. Uh
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so I want to pass out more well wishes. We
should all have well wishes for rob G, for speedy recovery.
All right. Uh, we got as you heard DJ Alex
Tyson on the ones and twos. Uh in for rob
Ge since he's recovering. Who's in Uh it's Patrick again?
All right? Man? Patrick? Right? Patrick, Chris. Yeah, he's from home,
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but you won't hear his voice tonight. And then we
heard Monsey Belanos and the updates. All right, rob let's
get in here. You got Eric pinkas Bleacher Report, NBA Rider.
That'll be good to talk to him to night. He's
at the bottom of the hour and the return of
Shechel City. Actually have a few games to bet on,
so good good on you, all right, Rob, interesting story
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coming out of Portland. Okay, the Blazers have had some
issues with their travel, all right. So they played the
Sacramento Kings tonight and they got stuck on the runway yesterday.
All right. They go to the airport around two forty five,
sat on the plane rob until ten pm, then went home.
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It was like because of weather, traffic, they couldn't you know,
they couldn't get out there out of there. And then
they went home. The commute for some players was as
much as two hours because of weather and traffic. And
then they came back, went back to the airport this
morning around nine am, and then they they didn't leave
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until one forty three. So two straight days of sitting
on the tarmac, playing tarmac for a long time. And
then they finally got in town, made four or five
hours before game time in Sacramento. And I don't know
if this is why, but they're sitting Damian Lillard and
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Jeremy Grant for Rest. What I would say is, I
don't know what type of effect that might have on
the body, but if it's that dangerous, nobody should be playing.
Thank you like if you're you know, if Dame and
I get Dame is older, so but Jeremy Grant is
not that old, Like, so, why why are they not playing?
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But you're throwing all these other guys out there, spot On.
You just can't. They can't explain it. You can't explain,
And I get it. You want to cancel the game
if you're telling me that Damon and those guys can't play, Chris,
and need to rest because they want to play two
separate days. They did sleep in their beds the night before.
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And I get it, Chris. When I started covering the
league back in nineteen eighty seven, we used to fly
commercial with the team, okay, and they flew and then
you fly a lot of mornings of the game. Six am.
You had the yes day of game, Chris, and you
had to be on the first flight out of a city,
the first flight because just because of bad weather, I
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was on planes tarmax, the whole thing stuck in Milwaukee,
sitting there for hours. So they played. Let me ask you.
Because when I started covering the league rob in ninety five,
they had by that time, every team had its own
private plane and we flew the teams, as you know,
flew out the night before the game. They left after
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the game and to get to another city like the
night before a game. And we never flew with the
team the players. What was the closest call as far's
like when the team and you guys got into a
city and you know, close to game time. They can't
remember it ever being passed one or two o'clock in
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the afternoon, you know, And I don't remember anything later
than that, Chris. There were a couple, but most of
the time, the reason the league wanted you on the
six am flight was because of possible travel delays. So
that especially if you're on the nine and the six
doesn't go out, you know, then that's backed up and
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you can't get on, you know, because you still got
to take care of those people on the six. So
that's why we were always on the first flight. Back then,
I used to sit next to players, Chris on our trip.
On the road trip, there was no first class for
twelve people. You were on smaller planes and there might
be four first class seats that went to the four
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longest tenured NBA players. So if you had a journeyman
who played ten or eleven years in the league. He
sat in class and the star who was drafted in
the first round that year set and coach next to
a reporter. I'm not kidding. Believe it. I believe it.
I've heard that was what the eighties was, and I
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was a part of that. So I'm with you. I
don't have an issue if it's if you're resting them
because they've been through hell and you don't think it's
good for them to play, everybody should be off. Cancel
the whole damn game can give everybody. Players you're throwing
out there gets hurt, and and Rob being keeping it real,
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I think they could play. I'm just saying if I assume,
of course they play, Yeah, I think you can get
out there and play. And Rob, here's what I want
to get out. We've talked about the pampering of today's players,
whether it's basketball or baseball, and we see no evidence
of it helping the players stay healthy. Because if even
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hurt without a non scientific you, Rob would tell us
guys are getting hurt more. We don't have the data.
I can't show you data that says pitchers get hurt
more or NBA players get hurt more today, But it
certainly seems that way. It certainly seems that way with
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all this rest and pampering and bathing and all that.
But here's the point I really want to get to Rob.
The Portland Trail players who have shown noah inkling of tanking,
who have shown no desire to not win as many
games as they can, are fighting for their playoff lives.
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They are the twelfth seed in the Western Conference. They
are a half a game out of the play in
They are one and a half games ahead of the Lakers,
who we know are going hard for a play in spot. Well,
I keep hearing coaches and players of these teams say
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that every game going forward recounts we can't have any
slip ups. It's a playoff atmosphere. Every night is a
game seven. And yeah, here you are sitting out two
of your best players, including your absolute best player. Well,
what don't you need this game? They need this game, Rob,
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What do we tell big time do they need this game?
And to just or just arbitrarily go, Well, you know
they were on the inconvenience, So let's sit down the
best players and let them rest. I mean this whole
rest thing, chris On, and not get it is Damian
Lillard fifty five, Am I am I missing something? Jeremy five,
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Jeremie Grands twenty eight, he's twenty eight. These guys are
in the best shape of their lives, Chris, their pro athletes.
Stop it. Lillard's thirty two. Stop it. You know what
you could do, Chris when you were thirty two forty
years ago. Rob, you know when it boils down to,
And it boils down to a sense of entitlement. And
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again I'm not I'm not one. I think you may be.
I'm not putting it all on the players. I think
now do I think Damian Lillard could be like, look, man,
I'm playing, all right, we need this game. I'm playing. Yeah, sure,
but I'm not putting it all on the players. I'm
putting some of it on these teams, these trainers, these owners,
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whoever from on high is calling a lot of these shots.
But Rob, I think what it boils down to is
a sense of entitlement on all of their parts, not
just the players, all of them, and a disrespect or
disregard for the fans and taking the fans for granted.
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They're taking the fans for granted. We just saw at
Sunday night with that woeful All Star Game. And I'm
telling you, don't take the fans for granted. Stop it.
If they turn on you, you're in trouble. Don't kid yourself.
Everybody thinks, Chris, that oh no, they're not going anywhere.
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You know, this is NBA basketball. It's been around for
seventy five years. It'll be around, but it might not
be the same level. If you keep doing what you're doing.
You can't keep doing this to people. At some point.
The way that they turned off the All Star Game,
Chris and made it the worst ever. You think that.
You think if you're Adam Silver and the NBA Chiefs
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and you're sitting in Manhattan at the NBA office and
you look at what transpired, you think that they're gonna
shrug and go, oh, well, we're not affected by anything.
Do you think so? No? And I'm saying this as
a person that cares about the future of the NBA.
Horse things change, Drob in this country tastes change. There
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was a time when horse racing was the most popular
sport in the world big time. It was actually a
time when blacks dominated sports. Horse racing, when most of
the jockeys were African Americans. That's where you get the
little lawn jockey. You know, things that some people used
to have in front of their house that now is
viewed as racist. There was a time when boxing was king, Rob. Baseball, yes,
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still popular and all that making money. Baseball used to
be king. Now it's football. People's taste will change. And
I'm just saying like, if we're getting tired of it,
if I'm getting tired of looking forward to a basketball
happen rest, then what is the casual fan doing. It's
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just that y'all need to wake up man. Adam Silver
and the Players Association need to do something about this.
And Rob, rightly or wrongly, the players are gonna be
the ones that are criticized by the fans mostly most people.
They most times. They even during the lockout Rob when
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the billionaire owners are being selfish, who do fans point
out that they need more money? They making fifty million
dollars a year, right, And that's because people can relate
more to a player than they can to an owner.
Just from the standpoint Chris that everybody shot a ball
out a hoop and they go, I played basketball in
high school. I played basketball with my friends. I was
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pretty good. They guys are making fifty million dollars to
shoot a ball, you know what I mean? I could
do that right, So that so that they can they
have a field or connection there where you don't know
what it's like to be an owner and be worth
four billion dollars or whatever it is. You know, like,
it's just harder to imagine what that is like compared
to being an athlete. But this is bad, and right
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off the break of the All Star break, it's just
like you just had a week off, just had a
week off. What is the rest? We just watch guys
participate in foolish exhibitions, but you can't come out and
play a real game that counts. Come on, Thanks for
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best bet. Take the Kings minus eleven hosting the depleted, tired,
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uh tarmac weary Portland Trailblazers. I mean, load up on this, Chris,
load up minus eleven. Kings win by twenty five, by
win by twenty all right, Wow, I'm taking the Mavericks
minus fourteen. They've been having some clunkers, right, they're trying
to get right. Uh. San Antonio has like a million
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people out tonight, Chris. Uh. Take the Mavericks minus fourteen,
and the Lakers are favorites hosting the Warriors. Chris, but
I'm taking the Warriors plus six and a half. Lakers win,
but the Warriors cover. Yeah, Lakers win, but the Warriors steph.
Warriors bad on the road six and a half. It's
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a lot of point. I'm saying the Lakers win, but
they don't cover the six and a half. Say they
win by five. I make money there you go. Remember
Kings minus eleven Mavericks minus fourteen Warriors plus six and
a half. And remember I'm not telling you who to
bet on. I'm telling you who I bet on. All right,
thank you for that return of shechyl City, rob speaking
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to return. Aaron Rodgers has returned from the darkness. Did
you see he only spent two and a half days, Robb,
He's supposed to And it wasn't that dark. They had
lights there. I thought it was gonna be Chris. I
thought the blackout retreat was going to be like, you know,
total darkness, and and he wouldn't have any power or
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lights and he would just meditate and drink water or
whatever would be. And instead, when they show pictures of
the place, it looks like he checked into a bad
motel six. You know what I mean, Like, you're right,
that's not an exaggeration. I mean it's a three hundred
square foot room, right, it's partially underground, devoid of light.
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They say it's got a queen size bed, a bathroom,
and a meditation like Matt, it's fully powered. So and
here's the kicker to your point. It says the lights
can be turned on from inside the room. That's the
part I really am like, what like if he really
got crazed and needed light, you just opened the door,
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you know. I mean, I guess if it's at night,
But are you gonna get that crazed at night when
you're in the darkness retreat? I don't know, but I
just feel like I guess, kind of like you, like,
I don't know. This seems like a little almost like
a little bit of half stepping for the darkest And
that's not a been all he thought it was gonna be,
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because he left after two and a half days. And
here's the other thing, Chris, I've been saying it the
whole time. And I know there's a report out there
that he's staying with the packers. Remember I have said
that from day one. I don't believe he's going. That's
that's that's not settled yet. We'll see, but I'm just
saying the reports out there. But but there's a report
out there that he's staying. Uh. And I do believe that?
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Is that a report that he's staying? It's uh, Jeff Darlington,
you're talking about Yeah, he said that he talks level
talk to somebody who says, uh, he expects Rogers to
be back. That's not saying yeah, but this is not
the other report we had the other day. Well, but
I mean, you always are stickler, like, what do you know?
I expect Rogers to stay? Is that really? But I'm
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saying it's a high level gu people they expect him
to stay. Rother guy' been talking to people who we
saying from the get go, Uh, that report by Bob
again even he's a very reputable right, but that he
they're done with him, right, we just want to bird
anything like that. So it was a little hard to believe.
And who knows, maybe that's the truth, but I just think,
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I mean, I don't think this was definitive. It's my point, Okay,
I expect. All I'm saying is I believe it because
I think Chris he will stay, play out his contract,
get his fifty million dollars, play one more year in
the NFC. It's wide open, give this team one more
chance at trying to win, and he can retire then
as a packer, where are you going? Probably only playing
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one more year, so why would you go anywhere? I'm
just saying I think that's the most logical thing to do,
is from the state there for one more year. Yeah,
And the question is is it totally up to him
though it's I mean, they can trade him if they want. Now,
I would assume he's got to be happy with where
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he's going, right, because I don't think a team's giving
up anything of value if Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to
be there, so that's his leverage. But I'm just saying
it doesn't have to be up to him completely. If
they say, look, we want to move on, maybe he's like, okay,
well then all right, I don't want to be around
here if you don't want me. So we'll see. But
obviously a lot of the time for this to play out.
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right into this next topic. We're sticking with basketball because
Gilbert Arena says something that's got a brother ticked off.
And here it is eighties basketball, right, it was tougher,
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Shut up, let it go. Eighties cannot compete with nineties
to thousands. And now it is a pointless argument. Bill
and Beer cannot play basketball today, right, His defense does
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not work today. The things that you guys glorifying, which
is hard fouls, not better defense. Hard fouls. If you
look at the people who were brutally hurting people, they
were not all defensive players. A defensive player is playing
within the rules, stopping you all right, go ahead, because
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it shouldn't know you go. It's just total nonsense. Actually,
Bill Lambier was fine Chris on the three point line
and could shoot up from out there like like I like,
just just just the old notion that uh you know,
oh it was just rough and tumble and nobody had skill.
And and now they don't even play defense. It's easier
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to score than ever before. Of course, there's nobody in
the paint. There no fouls to worry about. Chris, It's
way easier to play. I mean, this is a tired
and old argument, but this is one of those prisoner
of the moment. Everything that happened yesterday is the best
thing that ever happened. I just I don't how could
you say that? And you think Michael Jordan couldn't play today? Really, Chris,
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rob Gilbert Arenas doesn't know what he's talking about. Gilbert
Arenas is proof that just because you were a great
basketball player doesn't mean you know what you're talking about
when it comes to NBA especial at least the history
of the game. Can we change first? Can we change
his name real quick to Willis so you could say
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what you're talking about Willis? It is unbelievable that he
said this. First of all, Bill lamb Beer never made
an All defensive team. Thank you. That's that's your example.
That's who you're holding up is the beacon of nineteen
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eighties defense. He never made an All defensive team. He
was known as a thug if you want. He was
known as an enforcer. That's what he was out there for.
He will be the Now he was skilled, robed and
sorry we could choom terms of choosing and stuff like that,
but he knew part of the reason he was out there,
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right because he was tough. Same thing for Rick Mhorn.
All Right, So first of all, you don't know what
you're talking about, not regard Gilbert. Secondly, he said the eighties,
he said the eighties players could not play with the
guys in the ninety thousands. And today here's the proof
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that Gilbert Arenas is off his rocker. All right. Michael
Jordan rob dominated the nineties, but didn't win a championship
in the eighties. Michael Jordan entered the league in nineteen
eighty four, never won a championship in the eighties. Dominated
the nineties, but he couldn't play the eighties players that
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beat him couldn't play in the nineties. What do we want?
What any sense? But second league? I mean, just my
second example. I could go on and on, go on
and on. Shock. Shock dominated the late nineties and early
two thousands, robbed that three year stretch where the Lakers
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won three in a row. Shock was as dominant as
it gets, right, Yep. In nineteen ninety five, Shock got
abused by Hakim Elijaan in the finals. Shack will tell
you that when Houston swept Orlando, Elijahwan dominated Shock. Now
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Elijahwan like Jordan into the league in nineteen eighty four,
he dominate the eighties. Never won a championship in the eighties, No,
but he won. Yeah, had Ralph Sampson as a teammate.
Never won the championship, got beat in the finals by
Larry Bird and Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale. And it
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wasn't three on one because he had Ralph Sampson. So
my point is it that is proof that the teams
and the players in the eighties could play with the
teams and the players in the nineties. In the early
two thousand, I would disagree. But if he had said, Rob,
those old players couldn't play like safe from twenties fifteen,
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or actually about twenty seventeen one, because now the three
pointer has become more prominent, I would disagree. But that's
a better argument, right, because I just gave you proof
that dudes that dominated the two thousands got dominated in
the nineties or in the eighties. So what are you
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talking about now? He wants to point out Bill Lambier
and I'm sure part of his thinking is the athleticism.
Rob right, No, that's why he picked out That's why
he picked out Bill Lambier, Like, oh, look at him.
He couldn't play today. He's a stuff. You know that,
that's what he is. First of all, Athleticism, while important
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and good, obviously is not the end all be all
for basketball. Is Luca what we would call athletic, you know,
by today's then we didn't think jumping out of the
gym and quick as a cat Lucas, none of that.
But he owns the NBA. Is Yoki Nicola Yokis can't
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get a foot off the ground in these dudes that
are athletic but don't know how to play basketball. I mean, seriously, preach,
preach Chris. How about James Harden, Rob James Hardeney and athletic,
you know, by what we considered athletic, he dominated the NBA.
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And let's let's talk about something I robbed. I had
to write some notes because this dude is off his
rocker and he could come on this show anytime. Gilbert, Yes,
Robert Williams, the third rob. That dude is six nine,
can't shoot a lick and he is reeking havoc on
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today's NBA says he's been back for the Celtics. They
have the best defensively in the league by four points,
like four defensive rating points. They are better when he's
on the floor than the best team in the league defensively. Wow,
they're a six nine guy who can't shoot, ain't skill.
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If he waited in the nineties, Arenas would be saying, oh,
he couldn't play today. He what he's playing. Not only
is he playing, he's affecting the game. Chris, you just
said it. He's affecting the game. Draymond Green is a
six sixth center, you know, I mean he plays a
lot of center in today's NBA. Could Draymond Green even
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dream about playing center? Back in the eighties, would Elijah
shot David Robinson, Aliz, he would? He would be he
would be force fed his lunch every game, Chris and
what they would destroy him. And I'm not even trying
to like say the dudes, No, I'm just saying, like,
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let's just keep it real. Jaka Purdle, because he's averaging
fourteen points a game in the NBA today, he liked
doing damage. Rudy Gobert not as good as any of
those centers I just mentioned as a three time freaking
defensive player of the Year in the day's NBA. I
don't think he's better than the Kim Bamtumbo uh if
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Venka Zubach, a starting center on a contender with the Clippers,
Rob Dan White Kow you know that light skin dude
for the Mavericks, starting center on the team that got
to the Western Conference Finals last year. I mean, come on,
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Gilbert's do a little analysis, man, don't be lazy. He's packing,
but he ain't packing no all knowledge. When it comes
to Rob, he talked about, oh, y'all wasn't in the
I don't know if you listen to the whole thing,
but I did. He talked about, y'all wasn't in the
gym six seven hours a day in the eighties, y'all
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wasn't balling like that. Y'all wasn't working on y'all game.
First of all, you don't know what they were doing.
A lot of them were working on their games. And secondly,
this is a peeve of mine with today's players. Yeah
they'll go work for four hours in the gym. Yeah
they'll get a personal trainer and a coach to work
on their game. But you know what, they work on
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what they're already good at. They work on what they
want to work on. They work on their handle, and
they work on their three point shot. That's it. They
don't add no post moves, they don't add no post defense.
They don't work on things they're not good at. Do
you don't see today's players adding something to their game,
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like Michael Jordan adding a post game to his arsenal,
like Kobe Bryant adding footwork and a post game to
his arsenal. These dudes work on their handle constantly and
their three point shot then not adding new stuff. So
don't don't give me all this about you know what
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you're working and take away to carrying because the handles
are better, But a lot of it's better because they carrying.
What did you say? Your mom watches the game? How
is your mom Chris seventy watch seventy eight and she plays.
She in high school when it was for girls, right,
And she notices every every time I watch with her,
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she's like, they carry every time up the court. They do.
It's ridiculous. And that's one reason the handles are so
much better, and they shoot more better with distance the
mid range. Don't tell me about the mid range accuracy.
I know it's much better statistically than it used to be,
(34:06):
but that's because they don't defend the mid range shot.
Days want you to shoot the mid range. Why but
if you want to take it, don't get the rim
right Take a fifteen footer, we love that. Take a
seventeen footer. Please, We're beg of you. So, I mean,
this is just Gilbert Arena. Man, you gotta be smarter, Bro.
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I mean, I get you want to defend the day's players.
We're not. I'm not even ripping these dudes. I'm just
saying two can play that game. You know we can
if you want to rip the players back then, Rob.
You don't think Magic Johnson and Larry Bird would be
dominant today as they were in the eighties. Yes, they
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would be, Chris, and we talk about that all the time. People,
if they had all of the benefits of today's players, Chris,
they would be different. They would You just talked about
how what the travel was when you entered the league
six am, six am flights. Larry Bird, Chris is in
(35:08):
coach hell. Hello. They weren't coach. These dudes can't even
play today. God forbid, day fly coach, right, and you
gotta play that night. I need rest, right, I need rest,
I said in coach. And it was a seventy five
minute flight. My god, I'm worn out. I can't play,
(35:28):
The science says, if I have to travel seventy five
minutes and have peanuts and a diet coach, I'm gonna
fall apart. I'll faint. Oh my gosh,
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Chris Brussard? How are you right? Chill? Where'd they learned
you learn? Where? Ye? Where'd you learn that at? I
don't even know, but at at Oberlin College. Speaking of Oberlin,
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one of your teammates and friend George Smith, who's teaching
and was before me. He's been older than you. No, no, no,
he was a he was either a senior, right, I
guess he was a senior when I was a fresh
georgiest medio like a year or two. But he knows you,
you know, Oh yeah, I know George Well yeah, yeah,
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he was a track star. He yeah, he just uh,
he's teaching now too. And he had me on one
of his classes on zoom the other day, so he said,
make sure to say hi to mister Christmas shar good dude, good. Yeah.
Everything uh, everything cope astatic in Jersey. Did you guys
(02:17):
get hit by anything or no? No, we've been good.
I mean, you know, we've had some rain, but nothing
I know, I mean I know out there a little rain.
Oh my gosh, are we gonna survive? It's the apocalypse coming?
Chris stopping saw. You grew up in New York City,
(02:40):
lived in Detroit for twenty years for a few years,
and you can't handle a little rain, a little sunshower. No, no,
it's been calling. I need I need some soup and
a black what's cold? Fifty sixty degrees? Chris? It was
fifty two today you stopped. Wow. When I wake up,
look at my weather app and it says fifty two.
(03:02):
I'm all smiles. I'm all smiles, fifty two. No rain,
I'm good. But we hardcore out here, no doubt. All right,
it is a TV theme song Thursday, looking forward to that.
Oh and that also means it's a Tyson's Tower trivier.
No wonder Alex is here. I wonder why it was
here tonight Tyson's Tower trivia. Rob G is improving. Uh
(03:29):
so I want to pass out more well wishes. We
should all have well wishes for rob G, for speedy recovery.
All right. Uh, we got as you heard DJ Alex
Tyson on the ones and twos. Uh in for rob
Ge since he's recovering. Who's in Uh it's Patrick again?
All right? Man? Patrick? Right? Patrick, Chris. Yeah, he's from home,
(03:51):
but you won't hear his voice tonight. And then we
heard Monsey Belanos and the updates. All right, rob let's
get in here. You got Eric pinkas Bleacher Report, NBA Rider.
That'll be good to talk to him to night. He's
at the bottom of the hour and the return of
Shechel City. Actually have a few games to bet on,
so good good on you, all right, Rob, interesting story
(04:14):
coming out of Portland. Okay, the Blazers have had some
issues with their travel, all right. So they played the
Sacramento Kings tonight and they got stuck on the runway yesterday.
All right. They go to the airport around two forty five,
sat on the plane rob until ten pm, then went home.
(04:37):
It was like because of weather, traffic, they couldn't you know,
they couldn't get out there out of there. And then
they went home. The commute for some players was as
much as two hours because of weather and traffic. And
then they came back, went back to the airport this
morning around nine am, and then they they didn't leave
(05:02):
until one forty three. So two straight days of sitting
on the tarmac, playing tarmac for a long time. And
then they finally got in town, made four or five
hours before game time in Sacramento. And I don't know
if this is why, but they're sitting Damian Lillard and
(05:23):
Jeremy Grant for Rest. What I would say is, I
don't know what type of effect that might have on
the body, but if it's that dangerous, nobody should be playing.
Thank you like if you're you know, if Dame and
I get Dame is older, so but Jeremy Grant is
not that old, Like, so, why why are they not playing?
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But you're throwing all these other guys out there, spot On.
You just can't. They can't explain it. You can't explain,
And I get it. You want to cancel the game
if you're telling me that Damon and those guys can't play, Chris,
and need to rest because they want to play two
separate days. They did sleep in their beds the night before.
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And I get it, Chris. When I started covering the
league back in nineteen eighty seven, we used to fly
commercial with the team, okay, and they flew and then
you fly a lot of mornings of the game. Six am.
You had the yes day of game, Chris, and you
had to be on the first flight out of a city,
the first flight because just because of bad weather, I
(06:28):
was on planes tarmax, the whole thing stuck in Milwaukee,
sitting there for hours. So they played. Let me ask you.
Because when I started covering the league rob in ninety five,
they had by that time, every team had its own
private plane and we flew the teams, as you know,
flew out the night before the game. They left after
(06:51):
the game and to get to another city like the
night before a game. And we never flew with the
team the players. What was the closest call as far's
like when the team and you guys got into a
city and you know, close to game time. They can't
remember it ever being passed one or two o'clock in
(07:11):
the afternoon, you know, And I don't remember anything later
than that, Chris. There were a couple, but most of
the time, the reason the league wanted you on the
six am flight was because of possible travel delays. So
that especially if you're on the nine and the six
doesn't go out, you know, then that's backed up and
(07:32):
you can't get on, you know, because you still got
to take care of those people on the six. So
that's why we were always on the first flight. Back then,
I used to sit next to players, Chris on our trip.
On the road trip, there was no first class for
twelve people. You were on smaller planes and there might
be four first class seats that went to the four
(07:53):
longest tenured NBA players. So if you had a journeyman
who played ten or eleven years in the league. He
sat in class and the star who was drafted in
the first round that year set and coach next to
a reporter. I'm not kidding. Believe it. I believe it.
I've heard that was what the eighties was, and I
(08:13):
was a part of that. So I'm with you. I
don't have an issue if it's if you're resting them
because they've been through hell and you don't think it's
good for them to play, everybody should be off. Cancel
the whole damn game can give everybody. Players you're throwing
out there gets hurt, and and Rob being keeping it real,
(08:34):
I think they could play. I'm just saying if I assume,
of course they play, Yeah, I think you can get
out there and play. And Rob, here's what I want
to get out. We've talked about the pampering of today's players,
whether it's basketball or baseball, and we see no evidence
of it helping the players stay healthy. Because if even
(08:56):
hurt without a non scientific you, Rob would tell us
guys are getting hurt more. We don't have the data.
I can't show you data that says pitchers get hurt
more or NBA players get hurt more today, But it
certainly seems that way. It certainly seems that way with
(09:17):
all this rest and pampering and bathing and all that.
But here's the point I really want to get to Rob.
The Portland Trail players who have shown noah inkling of tanking,
who have shown no desire to not win as many
games as they can, are fighting for their playoff lives.
(09:41):
They are the twelfth seed in the Western Conference. They
are a half a game out of the play in
They are one and a half games ahead of the Lakers,
who we know are going hard for a play in spot. Well,
I keep hearing coaches and players of these teams say
(10:02):
that every game going forward recounts we can't have any
slip ups. It's a playoff atmosphere. Every night is a
game seven. And yeah, here you are sitting out two
of your best players, including your absolute best player. Well,
what don't you need this game? They need this game, Rob,
(10:26):
What do we tell big time do they need this game?
And to just or just arbitrarily go, Well, you know
they were on the inconvenience, So let's sit down the
best players and let them rest. I mean this whole
rest thing, chris On, and not get it is Damian
Lillard fifty five, Am I am I missing something? Jeremy five,
(10:47):
Jeremie Grands twenty eight, he's twenty eight. These guys are
in the best shape of their lives, Chris, their pro athletes.
Stop it. Lillard's thirty two. Stop it. You know what
you could do, Chris when you were thirty two forty
years ago. Rob, you know when it boils down to,
And it boils down to a sense of entitlement. And
(11:10):
again I'm not I'm not one. I think you may be.
I'm not putting it all on the players. I think
now do I think Damian Lillard could be like, look, man,
I'm playing, all right, we need this game. I'm playing. Yeah, sure,
but I'm not putting it all on the players. I'm
putting some of it on these teams, these trainers, these owners,
(11:32):
whoever from on high is calling a lot of these shots.
But Rob, I think what it boils down to is
a sense of entitlement on all of their parts, not
just the players, all of them, and a disrespect or
disregard for the fans and taking the fans for granted.
(11:55):
They're taking the fans for granted. We just saw at
Sunday night with that woeful All Star Game. And I'm
telling you, don't take the fans for granted. Stop it.
If they turn on you, you're in trouble. Don't kid yourself.
Everybody thinks, Chris, that oh no, they're not going anywhere.
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You know, this is NBA basketball. It's been around for
seventy five years. It'll be around, but it might not
be the same level. If you keep doing what you're doing.
You can't keep doing this to people. At some point.
The way that they turned off the All Star Game,
Chris and made it the worst ever. You think that.
You think if you're Adam Silver and the NBA Chiefs
(12:41):
and you're sitting in Manhattan at the NBA office and
you look at what transpired, you think that they're gonna
shrug and go, oh, well, we're not affected by anything.
Do you think so? No? And I'm saying this as
a person that cares about the future of the NBA.
Horse things change, Drob in this country tastes change. There
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was a time when horse racing was the most popular
sport in the world big time. It was actually a
time when blacks dominated sports. Horse racing, when most of
the jockeys were African Americans. That's where you get the
little lawn jockey. You know, things that some people used
to have in front of their house that now is
viewed as racist. There was a time when boxing was king, Rob. Baseball, yes,
(13:27):
still popular and all that making money. Baseball used to
be king. Now it's football. People's taste will change. And
I'm just saying like, if we're getting tired of it,
if I'm getting tired of looking forward to a basketball
happen rest, then what is the casual fan doing. It's
(13:53):
just that y'all need to wake up man. Adam Silver
and the Players Association need to do something about this.
And Rob, rightly or wrongly, the players are gonna be
the ones that are criticized by the fans mostly most people.
They most times. They even during the lockout Rob when
(14:14):
the billionaire owners are being selfish, who do fans point
out that they need more money? They making fifty million
dollars a year, right, And that's because people can relate
more to a player than they can to an owner.
Just from the standpoint Chris that everybody shot a ball
out a hoop and they go, I played basketball in
high school. I played basketball with my friends. I was
(14:36):
pretty good. They guys are making fifty million dollars to
shoot a ball, you know what I mean? I could
do that right, So that so that they can they
have a field or connection there where you don't know
what it's like to be an owner and be worth
four billion dollars or whatever it is. You know, like,
it's just harder to imagine what that is like compared
to being an athlete. But this is bad, and right
(14:58):
off the break of the All Star break, it's just
like you just had a week off, just had a
week off. What is the rest? We just watch guys
participate in foolish exhibitions, but you can't come out and
play a real game that counts. Come on, Thanks for
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best bet. Take the Kings minus eleven hosting the depleted, tired,
(16:28):
uh tarmac weary Portland Trailblazers. I mean, load up on this, Chris,
load up minus eleven. Kings win by twenty five, by
win by twenty all right, Wow, I'm taking the Mavericks
minus fourteen. They've been having some clunkers, right, they're trying
to get right. Uh. San Antonio has like a million
(16:49):
people out tonight, Chris. Uh. Take the Mavericks minus fourteen,
and the Lakers are favorites hosting the Warriors. Chris, but
I'm taking the Warriors plus six and a half. Lakers win,
but the Warriors cover. Yeah, Lakers win, but the Warriors steph.
Warriors bad on the road six and a half. It's
(17:10):
a lot of point. I'm saying the Lakers win, but
they don't cover the six and a half. Say they
win by five. I make money there you go. Remember
Kings minus eleven Mavericks minus fourteen Warriors plus six and
a half. And remember I'm not telling you who to
bet on. I'm telling you who I bet on. All right,
thank you for that return of shechyl City, rob speaking
(17:33):
to return. Aaron Rodgers has returned from the darkness. Did
you see he only spent two and a half days, Robb,
He's supposed to And it wasn't that dark. They had
lights there. I thought it was gonna be Chris. I
thought the blackout retreat was going to be like, you know,
total darkness, and and he wouldn't have any power or
(17:56):
lights and he would just meditate and drink water or
whatever would be. And instead, when they show pictures of
the place, it looks like he checked into a bad
motel six. You know what I mean, Like, you're right,
that's not an exaggeration. I mean it's a three hundred
square foot room, right, it's partially underground, devoid of light.
(18:17):
They say it's got a queen size bed, a bathroom,
and a meditation like Matt, it's fully powered. So and
here's the kicker to your point. It says the lights
can be turned on from inside the room. That's the
part I really am like, what like if he really
got crazed and needed light, you just opened the door,
(18:40):
you know. I mean, I guess if it's at night,
But are you gonna get that crazed at night when
you're in the darkness retreat? I don't know, but I
just feel like I guess, kind of like you, like,
I don't know. This seems like a little almost like
a little bit of half stepping for the darkest And
that's not a been all he thought it was gonna be,
(19:01):
because he left after two and a half days. And
here's the other thing, Chris, I've been saying it the
whole time. And I know there's a report out there
that he's staying with the packers. Remember I have said
that from day one. I don't believe he's going. That's
that's that's not settled yet. We'll see, but I'm just
saying the reports out there. But but there's a report
out there that he's staying. Uh. And I do believe that?
(19:26):
Is that a report that he's staying? It's uh, Jeff Darlington,
you're talking about Yeah, he said that he talks level
talk to somebody who says, uh, he expects Rogers to
be back. That's not saying yeah, but this is not
the other report we had the other day. Well, but
I mean, you always are stickler, like, what do you know?
I expect Rogers to stay? Is that really? But I'm
(19:49):
saying it's a high level gu people they expect him
to stay. Rother guy' been talking to people who we
saying from the get go, Uh, that report by Bob
again even he's a very reputable right, but that he
they're done with him, right, we just want to bird
anything like that. So it was a little hard to believe.
And who knows, maybe that's the truth, but I just think,
(20:10):
I mean, I don't think this was definitive. It's my point, Okay,
I expect. All I'm saying is I believe it because
I think Chris he will stay, play out his contract,
get his fifty million dollars, play one more year in
the NFC. It's wide open, give this team one more
chance at trying to win, and he can retire then
as a packer, where are you going? Probably only playing
(20:33):
one more year, so why would you go anywhere? I'm
just saying I think that's the most logical thing to do,
is from the state there for one more year. Yeah,
And the question is is it totally up to him
though it's I mean, they can trade him if they want. Now,
I would assume he's got to be happy with where
(20:53):
he's going, right, because I don't think a team's giving
up anything of value if Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to
be there, so that's his leverage. But I'm just saying
it doesn't have to be up to him completely. If
they say, look, we want to move on, maybe he's like, okay,
well then all right, I don't want to be around
here if you don't want me. So we'll see. But
obviously a lot of the time for this to play out.
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right into this next topic. We're sticking with basketball because
Gilbert Arena says something that's got a brother ticked off.
And here it is eighties basketball, right, it was tougher,
(23:14):
Shut up, let it go. Eighties cannot compete with nineties
to thousands. And now it is a pointless argument. Bill
and Beer cannot play basketball today, right, His defense does
(23:39):
not work today. The things that you guys glorifying, which
is hard fouls, not better defense. Hard fouls. If you
look at the people who were brutally hurting people, they
were not all defensive players. A defensive player is playing
within the rules, stopping you all right, go ahead, because
(24:04):
it shouldn't know you go. It's just total nonsense. Actually,
Bill Lambier was fine Chris on the three point line
and could shoot up from out there like like I like,
just just just the old notion that uh you know,
oh it was just rough and tumble and nobody had skill.
And and now they don't even play defense. It's easier
(24:27):
to score than ever before. Of course, there's nobody in
the paint. There no fouls to worry about. Chris, It's
way easier to play. I mean, this is a tired
and old argument, but this is one of those prisoner
of the moment. Everything that happened yesterday is the best
thing that ever happened. I just I don't how could
you say that? And you think Michael Jordan couldn't play today? Really, Chris,
(24:51):
rob Gilbert Arenas doesn't know what he's talking about. Gilbert
Arenas is proof that just because you were a great
basketball player doesn't mean you know what you're talking about
when it comes to NBA especial at least the history
of the game. Can we change first? Can we change
his name real quick to Willis so you could say
(25:12):
what you're talking about Willis? It is unbelievable that he
said this. First of all, Bill lamb Beer never made
an All defensive team. Thank you. That's that's your example.
That's who you're holding up is the beacon of nineteen
(25:32):
eighties defense. He never made an All defensive team. He
was known as a thug if you want. He was
known as an enforcer. That's what he was out there for.
He will be the Now he was skilled, robed and
sorry we could choom terms of choosing and stuff like that,
but he knew part of the reason he was out there,
(25:53):
right because he was tough. Same thing for Rick Mhorn.
All Right, So first of all, you don't know what
you're talking about, not regard Gilbert. Secondly, he said the eighties,
he said the eighties players could not play with the
guys in the ninety thousands. And today here's the proof
(26:15):
that Gilbert Arenas is off his rocker. All right. Michael
Jordan rob dominated the nineties, but didn't win a championship
in the eighties. Michael Jordan entered the league in nineteen
eighty four, never won a championship in the eighties. Dominated
the nineties, but he couldn't play the eighties players that
(26:38):
beat him couldn't play in the nineties. What do we want?
What any sense? But second league? I mean, just my
second example. I could go on and on, go on
and on. Shock. Shock dominated the late nineties and early
two thousands, robbed that three year stretch where the Lakers
(26:59):
won three in a row. Shock was as dominant as
it gets, right, Yep. In nineteen ninety five, Shock got
abused by Hakim Elijaan in the finals. Shack will tell
you that when Houston swept Orlando, Elijahwan dominated Shock. Now
(27:22):
Elijahwan like Jordan into the league in nineteen eighty four,
he dominate the eighties. Never won a championship in the eighties, No,
but he won. Yeah, had Ralph Sampson as a teammate.
Never won the championship, got beat in the finals by
Larry Bird and Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale. And it
(27:46):
wasn't three on one because he had Ralph Sampson. So
my point is it that is proof that the teams
and the players in the eighties could play with the
teams and the players in the nineties. In the early
two thousand, I would disagree. But if he had said, Rob,
those old players couldn't play like safe from twenties fifteen,
(28:11):
or actually about twenty seventeen one, because now the three
pointer has become more prominent, I would disagree. But that's
a better argument, right, because I just gave you proof
that dudes that dominated the two thousands got dominated in
the nineties or in the eighties. So what are you
(28:33):
talking about now? He wants to point out Bill Lambier
and I'm sure part of his thinking is the athleticism.
Rob right, No, that's why he picked out That's why
he picked out Bill Lambier, Like, oh, look at him.
He couldn't play today. He's a stuff. You know that,
that's what he is. First of all, Athleticism, while important
(28:56):
and good, obviously is not the end all be all
for basketball. Is Luca what we would call athletic, you know,
by today's then we didn't think jumping out of the
gym and quick as a cat Lucas, none of that.
But he owns the NBA. Is Yoki Nicola Yokis can't
(29:20):
get a foot off the ground in these dudes that
are athletic but don't know how to play basketball. I mean, seriously, preach,
preach Chris. How about James Harden, Rob James Hardeney and athletic,
you know, by what we considered athletic, he dominated the NBA.
(29:41):
And let's let's talk about something I robbed. I had
to write some notes because this dude is off his
rocker and he could come on this show anytime. Gilbert, Yes,
Robert Williams, the third rob. That dude is six nine,
can't shoot a lick and he is reeking havoc on
(30:05):
today's NBA says he's been back for the Celtics. They
have the best defensively in the league by four points,
like four defensive rating points. They are better when he's
on the floor than the best team in the league defensively. Wow,
they're a six nine guy who can't shoot, ain't skill.
(30:26):
If he waited in the nineties, Arenas would be saying, oh,
he couldn't play today. He what he's playing. Not only
is he playing, he's affecting the game. Chris, you just
said it. He's affecting the game. Draymond Green is a
six sixth center, you know, I mean he plays a
lot of center in today's NBA. Could Draymond Green even
(30:48):
dream about playing center? Back in the eighties, would Elijah
shot David Robinson, Aliz, he would? He would be he
would be force fed his lunch every game, Chris and
what they would destroy him. And I'm not even trying
to like say the dudes, No, I'm just saying, like,
(31:11):
let's just keep it real. Jaka Purdle, because he's averaging
fourteen points a game in the NBA today, he liked
doing damage. Rudy Gobert not as good as any of
those centers I just mentioned as a three time freaking
defensive player of the Year in the day's NBA. I
don't think he's better than the Kim Bamtumbo uh if
(31:34):
Venka Zubach, a starting center on a contender with the Clippers,
Rob Dan White Kow you know that light skin dude
for the Mavericks, starting center on the team that got
to the Western Conference Finals last year. I mean, come on,
(31:55):
Gilbert's do a little analysis, man, don't be lazy. He's packing,
but he ain't packing no all knowledge. When it comes
to Rob, he talked about, oh, y'all wasn't in the
I don't know if you listen to the whole thing,
but I did. He talked about, y'all wasn't in the
gym six seven hours a day in the eighties, y'all
(32:18):
wasn't balling like that. Y'all wasn't working on y'all game.
First of all, you don't know what they were doing.
A lot of them were working on their games. And secondly,
this is a peeve of mine with today's players. Yeah
they'll go work for four hours in the gym. Yeah
they'll get a personal trainer and a coach to work
on their game. But you know what, they work on
(32:40):
what they're already good at. They work on what they
want to work on. They work on their handle, and
they work on their three point shot. That's it. They
don't add no post moves, they don't add no post defense.
They don't work on things they're not good at. Do
you don't see today's players adding something to their game,
(33:01):
like Michael Jordan adding a post game to his arsenal,
like Kobe Bryant adding footwork and a post game to
his arsenal. These dudes work on their handle constantly and
their three point shot then not adding new stuff. So
don't don't give me all this about you know what
(33:22):
you're working and take away to carrying because the handles
are better, But a lot of it's better because they carrying.
What did you say? Your mom watches the game? How
is your mom Chris seventy watch seventy eight and she plays.
She in high school when it was for girls, right,
And she notices every every time I watch with her,
(33:45):
she's like, they carry every time up the court. They do.
It's ridiculous. And that's one reason the handles are so
much better, and they shoot more better with distance the
mid range. Don't tell me about the mid range accuracy.
I know it's much better statistically than it used to be,
(34:06):
but that's because they don't defend the mid range shot.
Days want you to shoot the mid range. Why but
if you want to take it, don't get the rim
right Take a fifteen footer, we love that. Take a
seventeen footer. Please, We're beg of you. So, I mean,
this is just Gilbert Arena. Man, you gotta be smarter, Bro.
(34:27):
I mean, I get you want to defend the day's players.
We're not. I'm not even ripping these dudes. I'm just
saying two can play that game. You know we can
if you want to rip the players back then, Rob.
You don't think Magic Johnson and Larry Bird would be
dominant today as they were in the eighties. Yes, they
(34:47):
would be, Chris, and we talk about that all the time. People,
if they had all of the benefits of today's players, Chris,
they would be different. They would You just talked about
how what the travel was when you entered the league
six am, six am flights. Larry Bird, Chris is in
(35:08):
coach hell. Hello. They weren't coach. These dudes can't even
play today. God forbid, day fly coach, right, and you
gotta play that night. I need rest, right, I need rest,
I said in coach. And it was a seventy five
minute flight. My god, I'm worn out. I can't play,
(35:28):
The science says, if I have to travel seventy five
minutes and have peanuts and a diet coach, I'm gonna
fall apart. I'll faint. Oh my gosh,
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