Hour 1 - Patrick Mahomes Ruined Things for Lamar Jackson

Chris and Rob discuss Richard Sherman’s assertion that Patrick Mahomes taking a lesser deal from the Kansas City Chiefs wound up hurting Lamar Jackson at the negotiation table years later, tell us if Shohei Ohtani is the crossover star Major League Baseball has sorely needed and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets.

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our man the low quacious Brian Finley. All right, Rob,
everybody is talking about Lamar Jackson. Lamar himself is tweeting.

(02:34):
Arthur Blank, the owner for the Atlanta Falcons, came out
yesterday and you know a lot of people feel like
the Falcons are a team that should go after Lamar,
and he tweeted that, you know, Lamar's injury concern or
her history is a concern, Lamar missing ten games the
last two years due to injury. M Lamar responded to that.

(02:58):
But Richard Sherman, who obviously has gone on to become
a media guy now a broadcaster, doing a good job
with that. He spoke about Lamar's situation on his podcast
on the volume The Richard Sherman podcast, and here's what
he had to say about it. Rob. What pissed me
off is when Kirk Cousins got this fully guaranteed deal,

(03:20):
I thought all the quarterbacks from then on we're gonna
be like, hey, if they ain't guaranteed, I ain't taking it.
Then my Homes took that BS deal just ten years
and wanted to look like half a million. But if
you get a half of that fully guaranteed, everybody's happier.
That's as president. But when he didn't set it, then
Josh Allen didn't set it. Now Lamar's trying to set
it after the Shaun's already said it and they're like, nah,

(03:42):
all right, your thoughts Rob, Yeah, I mean he's right.
I said it at least at the very beginning that
I thought my Homes missed a golden opportunity. He was
the standard. A young guy won a Super Bowl MVP
Kansas City. What choice did they have other than to
take care of him? At that time, he got a
deal that most agents panned. As you know, we talked

(04:07):
about that as well. And now you know, the quarterbacks,
it's all over the place because quarterbacks didn't follow up
and I understand what he's saying, that they have the
most power of all the players, and if they're accepting less,
if they're giving team friendly deals, if they're giving hometown

(04:29):
discounts and all that, it's hard for anybody else to
really do that, you know, do that unless you have
a rogue owner like what we saw in Cleveland. So, um,
I hear what he's saying. I think. And he said
a half a million didn't even mean a half a
billion billion, Yeah, yeah, um yeah. I mean people have

(04:51):
been critical of mahomes Is contract, but and sure, if
Mahomes had demanded a fully guaranteed deal, it's hard to
imagine he wouldn't have gotten it. And if every quarterback
started getting it from that point on, then then you're
talking about a whole different landscape. But I don't blame

(05:15):
this situation fully on my Homes. I'm not blaming him
at all. He did what he thought was best for him,
and that's fine. But I don't think that you can
just say that's the reason. First of all, my Homes
didn't sign the first contract after kirk Cousins. Anyway, kirk
Cousins signed his dealing like twenty eighteen, so there were

(05:36):
several contracts to be done between that and when my
Homes signed his deal. But beyond that, if it was
just about quarterback setting a standard, then Deshaun Watson getting
that deal could have been a standard, you know. But
that wasn't the standard for Kyler Murray. It wasn't the

(05:58):
standard for Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. And so a
lot of quarterbacks, you know, sign like the notion that
just because the last quarterback signed for this, the next
guy up is going to get more. I mean, it's
worked out that way several times. But that's not like

(06:20):
a written rule. That's an unwritten rule. And we're seeing
now that clearly it's an unwritten rule because nobody has
adhered to it after the Deshaun Watson deal. And so
I don't I think there's a lot of reasons. One
I do. I do think these owners, we said this
from the beginning, they don't want to give out a

(06:42):
fully guaranteed contract. I mean, we've heard some of them
come on the record, most lately Jim Ersey come on
the record and say he's against it. Clearly the Ravens
are against it. There owner Steve Bashotti has said as much,
and so some owners is just they're just against it.

(07:02):
But also Lamar has missed five games in each of
the last two seasons with injuries, so I think that's
also a factor in this situation. So I think everything
is related to some degree when you talk about these contracts.
But I'm not putting it all on Patrick Mahomes. For

(07:27):
you know, the reason Lamar Jackson's not getting this deal
because like you say, Rob, you say all the time,
it only takes one owner, and at this point, no
one has stepped forward to give Mahome or give Lamar
the deal he wants. And so now I think that
could change, Rob after the draft, right because you know,

(07:48):
right now, you gotta give up two first round picks
to get Lamar, and a lot of these teams would
rather give those picks, you know, in the future, starting
in twenty twenty four and twenty five, then this year's pick,
because also, Rob, if you get Lamar, you think you're
gonna be better, so that first round pick won't be
as high and as valuable. So maybe hopefully for Lamar

(08:11):
it will change. But I'm not gonna put this all
on Patrick Mahomes. And here's the other thing too. Just
you know, they're they're using, you know, some of his
injuries as why people aren't interested in him. Same thing
happened to Drew Brees. You know Drew Brees if you remember,
the Miami didn't want him because they thought the doctor

(08:32):
said he was banged up and injured or heard or
he had been heard. And he just went on to
play fifteen more years and get into the Hall of
Fame after being turned down by Miami. So stuff like that,
you can use that as saying, oh, here's the reason why,
and and you don't know what's gonna happen or if
he can you know, get healthy or continue to play

(08:52):
like Drew Brees did, who went on to have a
tremendous career. So but a lot's different though. Breese wasn't
like he had just what was his shoulder injury, right, Yeah,
but he was playing games like Lamar has missed. No,
but they told him, Gator told him. Not turned about

(09:13):
that if I'm an owner, yeah, but the doctor, yeah,
I'm not. I'm just saying, but but you can't always
the doctor. I mean, the reason that the Dolphins didn't
take him was because of the doctors failed him on
the physicals what I'm saying, But this isn't about doctors, no,
I know, but miss healthy again, they're just what I'm

(09:34):
just talking about. I'm talking about the injury. I'm the
injuries situation. That people get injured in the NFL doesn't
mean that he's gonna always be injured or he can't
shake it. Um. And let me say this, so so
even the whole thing, I guess the Mahomes thing took
less and the Chiefs still wind up losing some of
their top players. That was the whole premise of him
taking less and not is that is that they could

(09:56):
keep Tyreek Kill and Orlando Brown and that they wouldn't
lose guys like that. And I think that's the misnomer
about this whole thing of helping the organization and that
means that you're gonna get all good players and we
got money for the people. It just doesn't even work
out like that. I hear it, and I hear when
people say that. I know Mike Brown is pushing that
in Cincinnati because he wants to sign Joe Burrow and

(10:19):
not fork up a lot of money. But you know
how financials are, Chris. It doesn't mean you could keep people.
It just doesn't even if you wind up not taking
as much money. Yeah, I mean they the Chiefs, as
you said, they've lost some players. They you know, led
Orlando Brown, Junior go and you mentioned Tyreek Hill. They

(10:39):
have signed obviously other players, they've signed free agents. But
you know, and we the key we had Andrew branding
former GM with the Packers, and he said as much
that it was BS because you can always move the
money around and kick it down the road, Chris, if
you really wanted to, like it's, you can fudge the books.

(11:01):
And that's what so teams use that as oh, we
can't do anything, you know, No, And I think and
I bring up this all the time, and not because
I'm in love with the Rams, but that's what they did, Chris.
They just said they'll just do whatever. And now they're
in cap hell and they got all the other issues,
but they got what they wanted. You can't say that

(11:23):
they couldn't do it, because they did it. I think
what's interesting is that Rob. You know, we see major
player movement in today's NFL, which on the one hand,
is good because it does create parody, right. I mean
the Rams, you know, like you said they won that
Super Bowl, they brought in a lot of players, Like
there's more movement than ever. If you if players got

(11:47):
guaranteed deals, then I don't think there be as much movement.
But is that necessarily a horrible thing too? I mean,
we used to have in this before free agency, and
players would still have free agency. But if the guaranteed
contract meant it was harder to move you, then that

(12:11):
just means teams come back more whole than they used to,
which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing. I mean,
that's how it used to be. It wasn't because of
the same reasons, but teams, you know, came back pretty
much the same way they used to be. You didn't
see this much movements almost unheard of, and you we

(12:33):
guaranteed contracts. You obviously could make trades, but you couldn't,
you know, get rid of guys all, you know, as
easily as you can now, and then those guys end
up on a different team and you know, things like that.
But again, that might lead to more stability. But I look,
the guaranteed deal, We're just gonna have to see how

(12:54):
this plays out. I think, Rob, if you know, we
we got this, it might be hoove Lamar and I
don't know where they stand on like the Joe Burrow
deal to Justin Herbert deal, the Jalen Hurts deal. It
might behoove him to wait and see what those guys get.
If they get fully guaranteed deals, you would think that

(13:16):
would help him, although we'd have to see. Just because
they got a guaranteed deal fully guaranteed doesn't mean Lamar would.
But it might behoove him to wait, or if he
did get an agent, get one of their agents if
they're good, you know, and that agent, if he pushes
you know, Burrow or Herbert or somebody to get a guaranteed,

(13:40):
fully guaranteed deal, you would think they'd push that with Lamar.
But it's gonna be interesting. But this is you know, Lamar.
I think the next big thing for him is to
see what happens after the draft, because it does look
like at this point, I mean, Whele, we've seen team
after team after team come out and say on the

(14:02):
record that they're not interested. And so let's see if
that remains to be the case after the NFL Draft.
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on five. Do you blame Lamar Jackson's predicament on Patrick
Holmes not pushing for a fully guaranteed deal or even
a better deal than he got? Your thoughts Thad and Cincinnati.
You're on the YD a couple of Fox Sports Radia.
What up that? But going on y'all first time, long time,
How y'all? Wow, we are great man. Good to have you.

(16:23):
So I did want to first of all, I really
do love how you guys always doing corporates, unions and
all sports. I'm actually a union organizing myself for healthcare.
And one of the first things that brought to my
mind was is that you know r NS and LPNs
obviously for their skill set. We're trying to make sure
that the r in set of precedent so that the

(16:43):
LPNs can fall under, you know, and have some movement.
And so I really do think that Patrick Mahomes would
have set a better standard for being one of those
high ranking in those positions as we value the quarterback
to go for the highest standards so that other quarterbacks
would have movement if they were to take hometown discounts
or small the salaries, but to really set that bar
for him to have movement to bargain himself as long

(17:04):
as other as well as other quarterbacks as well too.
Let me ask you this as a union person, because
Rob and I talk about this all the time the NFL.
One reason that you know, players talk about it, We've
talked about it, why they don't push for better deals
or stand up to the owners is because you have

(17:25):
so many players that aren't you know, they're only gonna
be in the league for a year, two years, three years, whatever,
not make the huge money, but they want to get
what they can get rather than going on a strike
or you know, missing out on one or two of
the years they get to play. How do you think,
what would how could the NFL, you know, bridge that

(17:48):
gap and hand You know, when you got superstars that
play for a long time and make two hundreds of millions,
and then you got players are only gonna play two
or three years and make maybe a million dollars a year,
how do you kind of bring all that together for
the betterment of the whole situation. Well, honestly, one of
the things that you did talk about a strikes that's

(18:09):
a concerted activity. We're also seeing concerted activities right now
in the status quo, with quarterbacks and other valuable players
sitting out for links of time throughout the season. So
in a way it's hard for those smaller players trying
to get the money real quickted to join and solidarity
by exercising those same concerted activities. But there are concerted
activities that the league can make and players can't as

(18:31):
a whole that can show solidarity to kind of chase
the anticipation to get as much money possible as early
as possible. We always want to get as much money,
and they're possible as soon as a ratification or a
contract is signed, rather than the waiting long term for
it as well too. All right, well, thank you, good call.
Appreciate you. Let's go to Marty in Kentucky. You're on

(18:53):
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Salis
how y'all doing? That's worth Wednesday? One up? Well, Fellers.
I don't feel that Patrick the homes hurt Lamar Jack
and Patrick my Home's made at a wise decision and

(19:13):
investor himself. I think that he knows that he's good
enough that he can take a team friendly deal and
give his team's rooms to pick up an offensive lineman
here or there, a pass rusher here or there, a
weapon for him to throw to here or there, and
he didn't keep winning, and that money will be stuffing

(19:35):
them in endorsement from winning. You make a lot of
money endorsements when you're a winner, and take it. My
home is insanely popular, its use in America right now,
and endorsement money is rolling in. I don't think that
making the best decision for himself is something I would

(19:57):
call hurting. Lamar m. I think that the nfl PA
has got the stuffing up. Get that salary cap up,
because they guys are making the NFL a lot of
money and hard to get Lamar is worth the money,

(20:20):
but you can't get him that money and then build
enough around him too, you know, under the cap it's you.
I want to you can't, but you're gonna have to
make some great draft, it great trade and really develop players.
It's very difficult all that guarantee money to manage that,

(20:43):
and I think that the nfl PA has got to
stop letting them take advantage of them. They use that
majority vote which has a lot of a lot of
non skill players, old linemen, specialty players, just veteran players
that are just looking to make extra hundred thousand and
next deal worked out for them that it doesn't work

(21:05):
out for your young running back. It doesn't work out
the quarterback. And they got to find a better system
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(21:26):
MJ and New Orleans Jake have the Works of Winter Guys,
What's up Brother? Happy Wednesday? Going on all rush at
my home? Did that you had to leverage to reset
the markets for the top tier q vs to fully
guarantee time tracts. In my opinions, he put the haircut

(21:47):
and a hometown just about the still Laws, the Cheetah
and Orlando Brown, the Jet Indie and the Feltons are
making a disdirection counterplace to make it seem like des
Noel for louse. Yesterday I brought off racist owner George
Preston Marsh's nineteen thirty two Gentlemen's Agreement, which can still
being used. So much so that a forty six year old,

(22:09):
spry unanimous former MBP Lamar Jackson is being used to
not be the third quarterback and the second to get
a footing guarantee contract. Playing it simple. You can see
it from a mile away. Thank you, guys, Thank you
Mike and South Carolina. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What up Mike? Hey guys, man, I

(22:32):
don't want to tell you. It's absolute pleasure to get
pleasure to get tied to you guys. You guys are phenomenal.
Thank you, my man. Good to have you. Man, that's
just really really awesome. I mean, you made my dame.
But as far as my marigos, man, man, it is
real simple. Look he if you're a team, let's say
Atlanta you're you're looking. You've got to give up two

(22:55):
first rounds, maybe a player, and you've gotta pay this
guy a lot of money. Right, what teams out there
a cap that I can fit it under the cap
and be able to to do this, Mike, Mike, let
me now, Mike, let me stop. You let me just stop. Uh.

(23:19):
What's the hardest thing to obtain in the NFL? Oh? Yeah, okay,
So when you get a chance to get a quarterback
who you could have for the next ten years or
whatever and put your team, uh in a position where
you could be in a conversation, uh, you know the
way the Waves might not have won anything or yet,
but but they were in that conversation when you looked

(23:40):
at them every year and they got off to a
great start. I remember he was off to an MVP start.
My point is, the quarterback is the hardest thing to get.
There's so many failures. Yeah, go to the draft, Go
draft somebody. We Chris names of the list is so
long you can't even put it on the internet. Chris
of how many flops for quarterbacks? Of all these guys

(24:01):
who played at major colleges and put up ridiculous numbers
and they couldn't and they can't play. So that's why,
if you're serious about winning and you're trying to get there,
securing yourself a quarterback is the utmost and the most
important thing. Sure you need a lineman, Sure you need receivers, Chris,
Sure you need special team, Sure you need defensive players.

(24:25):
I get that, But without your quarterback, if you're almost
not winning, almost not winning without a quarterback, is Lamar
that guy? Though, yes, I think teams want Lamar, but
now at that cost, that's all. It is a lot,

(24:46):
and he has been Look I've said it, I think
the Jets should go for Lamar, but teams are looking
at the fully guaranteed deal, and they are looking at
two first round picks on top of that, or really
the guarant fully guaranteed deal is on top of that,
and they're also looking at that he's been injured ten

(25:08):
miss ten games the last two years. That's not something
to poopoo, especially when a guy is a running quarterback
and at this point not an elite pastor. So I
think there's you know, and this is to me, this
is not a Patrick Mahomes you know situation. And I
agreed that Mahomes certainly with his ability, was in a
situation where he could demand that's all retorted, he had

(25:31):
them ultimate level. But and I don't think anybody would
disagree that did he have that leverage Chris, at that
young age, with the hardware that he had won, How
in the world could the chiefs have said no to him?
I just don't. I don't think it's possible, you agree with.
I wonder if he even thought about, Honestly, I wonder
if he and his team even thought about a fully

(25:52):
guaranteed deal, right, and and and I don't know why
PiZZ somebody didn't get to him. But and even even
the deal, you know, you know that we talked about it.
Not this is not new, but you know a lot
of agents pan that deal that he he could have.
He earned more and should have demanded more from the Chiefs.

(26:13):
I think what he's lacking from the way I can
read the deal, Like you said, what people have said
is the guarantees, the security he's going to get. I mean,
as long as he stays healthy, right, he's gonna get
half exactly like he's going to get it. But if
something happens God forbid, or if he his play falls off,

(26:33):
which you know, we don't foresee. But if something like
that happens, Rob, that's when it becomes problematic. And that's
one reason you want to contract, right, and you deserve
it when you have success. I always say, pay people
who produce that hard Chris, Right, Like in this business,
if you don't have any waitings, guess what they don't

(26:54):
pay you, they'll get somebody else. Yeah, don't happen, right,
And so it's like I said, it Robbed to me.
The next step for Lamar, the next big, you know,
key moment is after the draft because then we'll see
or maybe during it. But I don't I don't think

(27:14):
anything happens then. But you know, after the draft teams
have made their picks. Um, then let's see if anybody
goes after him. But right now it's it's it's a
bad situation for it is not looking good right now. Yeah,
it can turn around. I'm not I'm not totally pessimistic.
I just know how these things can flip. Uh. You know,
people think that it's not going to get a deal,

(27:36):
nobody gonna sign. I just I don't believe that there's
so few people he's talented. Some owner wakes up one
day and just says what am I doing? And that
and that's all it takes. And I do believe he
will eventually get what he wants and it'll be ugly
and it'll take away to get there because he's trying
to do something to buck the system. And whenever you

(27:57):
do that, there's going to be pushed back. There's going
to be struggle, This struggle and change. Nobody Nobody just
rolls over when you're trying to change something. Uh, And
that's what the owners are pushing back on. So there's
there's a struggle that's involved. And if he's strong enough
and willing to make that change, it can happen. And

(28:17):
I you know, I always relate things to baseball because
it's the old game or whatever. Kurt Flood gave up
his career. I'm not saying Lamar has given up his
but that's yeah, I'm not saying that. But he did,
you know what I mean? Chris like he he took
Major League Baseball to court and he lost. But it
changed Chris the free agency and opened up you know,

(28:38):
became the father over. He didn't. He never benefited from it.
Like when when people get free agents all sports Kurt
Flood was the guy who who lost the case but
changed the dynamics he lost. Yeah, and I look, I
think if Lamar is to get a fully guaranteed deal,

(28:59):
it will change everything. I think. But no, I think
he's looking at it for what he feels like he deserves.
I agree. But if I'm not saying, I mean, he's
not trying to because of it. Right, I'm with you.
He's looking at Deshawan Watson and saying, I've done more?

(29:20):
Why I am don't I have at least that? Why
don't I have at least that? Right? And I think
that's logical. I tell you what. He's not saying, I
want half a billion guaranteed like like my homes. He's saying,
how come I don't have that that DeShawn has. I've
thought about this, rob and what like, if if I

(29:40):
had a child in Lamar Jackson situation, what would I
tell him? Um And I would say Number one, I say,
I'd say you need to get an agent. Let's get
in there, or you know, get somebody in your family
that that you trust and that is educated to get certified.
But get a CERTI five agent to talk to these

(30:01):
teams because Rob Lamar said many times, don't believe everything
that's reported or said about me. Well true, but does
he even know what the full market is because my
guess is he's just going off the reports too, because
he's not talking the teams himself. He had his guy calling,

(30:23):
but that obviously is probably nixed at this point. And
so I think you need an agent to call these
teams and find out, really are all of them out
on you? What is your market true market value? And
then if that, if it's what it looks like, which
is nobody's willing to give him the contract he wants,

(30:46):
then I think you have to really consider. Okay, let
me negotiate with the Ravens, because according to Schefter, they're
willing to give him about one hundred and seventy five
kind of guarantee fully guaranteed right, guaranteed against injury, but
not against if they were if they cut him um.
And so I think you'd have to go Because Rob,

(31:07):
we talked about all that your market value is what
was somebody's willing to pay you. At the end of
the day, it doesn't like, it doesn't matter what Deshaun
Watson got. If nobody's willing to give you that. It
really doesn't. It doesn't matter what you say, what I say,
what Lamar thinks. If nobody's willing to give it to you,

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then that ain't your market value. No, the only consider
all of this, that's just fact. It doesn't. And we've
looked at other contracts and go, how in the world
did he get that? Well, because somebody was desperate enough
or thought that they should do that. And then you
look at that contract and go, okay, well he's fortunate

(31:50):
somebody breathed in him more than we thought. All right, Uh,
it is the Eye Couple, Christ and Rob. We'll see
if we get any house or later. But next up
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time for shackle City. Welcome to Sheckle City, the whole

(32:33):
base for Rob Parker's daily Dicks against the Spread. All Right,
Sheckle City for this Wednesday, let's go with the best bet.
We'll start there. I have the Utah Jazz in San
Antonio Jazz minus two. I'm gonna go there with the Jazz.

(32:57):
Sport bad teams. It's time of the year. Might get it.
They want to get in the lottery. I'm not thinking
so sure that they're trying to win same. I'm gonna
take the Thunder hosting the Pistons Pistons sixteen and fifty
nine OKC minus nine and a half. I'll take the
Thunder to win by more than ten. And also the
return of Kevin Durant tonight in Phoenix for the Suns,

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I'm gonna take the Suns minus five against the Tea Wolves.
So I have the Jazz minus two, the Thunder minus
nine and a half, and the Phoenix Suns minus five.
And remember, I'm not telling you who to bet on.
I'm telling you who I bet on. All right, that's
our man Rob Parker with his recommendations. Rob, you talked

(33:44):
about this, I believe on your podcast MLB, your your
Inside the Soccer podcasts coming up that hal tiny to
make it sixtepening day. Yeah, sixty five million dollars this year,
thirty five million of it from endorsements, which is up
his first year. Well, in twenty twenty one RIB he

(34:05):
made six million, twenty twenty two he made twenty million.
This year he is going to make thirty five million
in indorsements. Um, do you think this signals that he's
becoming like that crossover superstar? Yep? And I think the
WBC and the ratings Chris and the numbers in Japan

(34:26):
for the final, the championship game against the United States
in Japan, they drew one hundred million viewers in Japan
to watch that. I mean, right, I mean he's not
he's not your normal. You can't look at him the
same way as other American players. By contrast, like Aaron
Judge made four point five million on that endorsements Chris

(34:48):
uh Mike Trout made four million, and they were in
the biggest city in the country. Crazy, Yeah, they made
make that that they're only making that much and right
like that, that's really where the where where the money
is as far as those two guys, and those guys
make so much money that I'm sure a lot of
it is that they don't want to be bothered. I'm
guessing you are you I don't, I don't think that's

(35:10):
why I think they got to get more baseball players
some endorsement deals. Yeah, I mean he's not getting anything, yeah, Otani.
I mean it started at what six? Who said six,
and then moved up to twenty. But he's an international
kind of guy, and when I say that, I'll court
Japan and all the people. But anyway, well that's the
question how much of that is from Japan versus the

(35:30):
United States. I think it's from Japan, a lot of it.
And I think I brought this up to you before.
When Matt Suey played for the Yankees, they advertised on
the one of the outfield walls, Chris, you know, like
the Japanese companies because the games are on in Japan.
So they put up uh, you know, businesses and stores

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and all kinds of stuff on the walls of Yankee
Stadium because they knew that they would get airtime and
it was worked there while. So there's a lot of
that money coming for him, but it's only gonna get
bigger because the bidding for his contract starts at fifty
million start a year. If he's making thirty, it's gonna
be fifty next year. That's the that's the starting bid. Yeah,

(36:16):
he's gonna break the bank. And you know what, it'll
be interesting, Rob is if he does. I mean, there
are people that have thrown out five hundred million because
you know, he does both pitching and hitting. It'll be
interesting to see if typically, as we've even talked about
with Lamar, you know, that kind of moves over to
the next guy. I don't. I mean, I'm sure teams

(36:38):
will try to say, nah, that's not the case. Because
this this guy pitches and hits, They'll be able to
make it. They'll be able to make a you're not
a duel threat. This guy is a top pitcher and
you know, and a hitter, a home run hitter, so
it's all that kind of stuff. I just hope he

(36:58):
can continue to do this. I mean in injuries. We
see him so much in baseball, um and basketball, but
in baseball, especially with pictures. I mean we talked about
Jacob de Grime. Rob, he's hurt again, you know, and um,
so I hope he can continue to do this for

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you know, the next five ten years like Duller. If
he can ten years like that, that's the number I
look at, not that he's gonna have some twenty year career.
But if he could, yeah, I mean for ten years,
yeah right, and then after ten you probably just become
a hitter, right, or even just a position player. You know,

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he might be at the player position. But it just
I hope he can do this for you know, what's
essentially a career long enough. Um, and just avoid the injuries. Um,
because it's not just pictures, it's just you know a
lot of times players in general. So uh sho hao Taney. Yes, Um,

(37:59):
he's should be the endorsement king of baseball, I think
because of what he does. It's so unique, you know.
So all right, it's the odd couple. We got two
hours left on this worship Winnsday. Y'all know what to do.
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