December 19, 2023 • 38 mins
Chris and Rob discuss what – if anything – Ja Morant can do to repair his image in the eyes of sports fans across the country, tell us if Jalen Hurts’ uneven 2023 season is proof that his MVP-caliber 2022 season was an aberration and explain why Micah Parsons is wrong when he says members of the media are rooting for the Dallas Cowboys to fail. Plus, the Odd Couple Callers bring the heat in this week’s edition of Trash Talk.
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Speaker 1 (01:55):
Speaking of coming correct, Rob the debut long away debut
for the season of Jah Morant Rob. And you know,
of course he was suspended for twenty five games for
a variety of things, but gunplay is really a big
(02:17):
He was a huge part of it, of course, and
so he sat out the first twenty five and they
were terrible.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Remember Rob, Over the.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Past few seasons as Joh emerged into being a superstar,
they actually won a lot of games at a high
clip when he was out. This year completely different, right
thet six and nineteen. Now that he's back, he's missed
the first twenty five games and so far he's got
(02:44):
three points. I got the game on. You know, he
looks he's moving fairly well. But he's back, and they
obviously are hoping that they can make a nice little
resurgence and get back into the Western Conference playoff race.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But what are your thoughts on job.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Of course, for him, obviously you want to win, but
for him, it's really about kind of rehabbing his image.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
And this is a guy that is.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Was a superstar and very young, but had already become
a superstar, one of the best young players in the league,
one of the best players period in the league. And
you know he put all of that in jeopardy because
of some foolishness.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
He's only twenty four years old.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
He's back and Rob g you said there were some
booze when he was introduced.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Even though the game is was in New.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Orleans, right, it's in New Orleans, and at least one reporter,
to Michael Cole of the Memphis News, Easy Be writer
for the Grizzlies, said that when Jah was first introduced,
there was a loud mix of cheers and booze from
the opposing crowd, which is gonna be ex right on
the road. But once he got his first touch during
live game action, loud smattering of booze in the arena.
(04:09):
He said, quote, Nola isn't as happy to see John
Moran as you.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's interesting. What are your thoughts? Right, Yeah, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I mean because this was self inflicted, Like this was
just especially after the first incident, Chris, where it was
kind of clear and yet he's right, what was it
a month or two months.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Later, suspended like eight games, kind of a slap on
the wrist, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It was, and then it was like later, like it
was a month or so later.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
So I think I don't know if he can really
rehabilitate his image fully most of the time, Chris, and
I want to make it clear, I'm not saying this
is the same scenario.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Okay, please do not put words in my mouth, but
I think.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
It would be like like I'm gonna say, he would
need to win an MVP, get to the NBA finals,
like something of that magnitude for people to say, man,
what a what a recovery.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Man, look at what he did to get back.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Because I think he's the enemy, or he's the public
enemy for a lot of opposing fans not at home,
you know, there'll probably be more forgiving, especially if the
team starts to win. Now, they were bad, but I
think people look at him sideways for a while, and
usually winning is a thing that can totally whitewashed Chris
(05:44):
that away where people are just like okay, And I
always remember the one thing that I always remember, and
this is the Ray Allen, I mean ray Lewis thing.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Chris. I covered that Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
When Baltimore won the Super Bowl, right, and he was
the MV and he was great and all that, but
just one year earlier, do you remember what he.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Was involved in?
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, he was involved.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Now he wasn't he didn't get convicted or anything, but
he was involved in where two men were killed, right,
stabbed or whatever and died at the Super Bowl of
the year prior, and he was covered in.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Blood and the other two guys who were with him.
It was just a mess.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
And one year later, Chris, he was a Super Bowl MVP.
And I remember writing my column and I only remember
the league because recently I was cleaning out some stuff
and I saw this. It was on a one of
the Detroit News and the lead was something like Chris
a year ago, Ray Allen was ray Lewis was covered
(06:50):
in blood. You know, at this very same event, and
this year he's covered in champagne celebrating you know this
moment and when all all that and what a turnaround
it was. And of course he's a great player, but
but I don't know if Jah can just do it
by returning back to the player. He was like, if
(07:13):
that's enough, That's That's what I'm saying, is he's got
to do a little bit more for people to shake
that tag up? Am I being too hard?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Do you see what I'm saying? Because you said win MVP?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And I know we know I'm a voter, uh and
we know media votes for MVP Rod. But I think
he may he have to go a long way in
cleaning up his image before he would win the MVP.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Some guys will hold that against him.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
But you see what I'm saying, Like he wouldn't, I don't.
I don't know. I think he's a young man. He's
only twenty four.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And look, say what you want about America and all that,
but it is shown with athletes time and time again
that it's willing to give second chances. Is you're talking
about that, Well, I think people lump this all together.
(08:14):
I think they lumped the eight game suspension. The first
is aident along with this incident. Because he's so young,
I mean, he's an immature, young kid. And if he yes,
of course he has to play well. But if he
will also show remorse, if he, you know, is a
(08:34):
good guy going forward, then I think he can rehabilitate
the image.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And of course his play. You know, he has to
play well.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I mean, it really has to play well to get
back to being a superstar. But even if he let's
say he lost this game and he never was, I
don't think this will happen. I think he's gonna be great.
But let's say he just was no longer a great
player for whatever reason. If he was a good guy
and didn't cause any more trouble, got rid of whatever
(09:09):
associations he needed to, that may have dragged him down
into some negative stuff and changed himself however he needed to,
I think he could rehabilitate that image.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Remember and Iverson didn't have you know, the incidents, you know,
like flashing guns like John Morant. But you remember Rob,
I mean when his girlfriend, remember he like had the
incident where she was like he kicked her out of
the house in Philadelphia, and she didn't have many clothes
(09:41):
on her, and I mean it was just a whole
you know, Iverson was constantly in the news for things
that you know, could have sullied his image, and they did.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
But I don't, No, he wasn't, but I'm sure I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I don't think it'll I think he I think it'll
take a while, but I think him being so young,
I do think he can come back from this, and
you know, if he does the right things.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I mean, he can't just go back to being silly.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
He or silly's not even the word, but just you know,
I think he has to be good with the media.
I think he has to do some pr Hopefully he's
got a smart team around him, and it has to
be sincere as far as we can tell, it has
to be sincere. Rob That's the thing, because he he
Where I do agree with you is he apologized before,
(10:36):
he said the right things before, and then he didn't
change his actions. He's going to have to be sincere,
and hopefully he will because he's a fantastic player.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Rob G, where are you at on this?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
You know, I kind of agree with Ron, and this
was something that he and I were talking about before
the show separately.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I'm just.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
This is similar again, Robin. You know, he brought up
the Ray Lewis, which is a really right because what
somebody was killing the.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Spectrum type thing.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
And even the one I'm gonna bring up is obviously
another terrible example, but it's the best I can think
of right now is when Kobe demanded a trade from
the Lakers trade.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Meet to Pluto or he did like twelve different interviews.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
And you remember that he was on every show, every
show he got introduced, his first game with the Lakers,
didn't trade him, and he got booed, you know, mercilessly
by Staple Center.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
And then he wins the MVP that season, gets them
to the finals. Suddenly he's their favorite son once again.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Alway's interesting though, because he thinks something similar after that happened.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
With he was at another let.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I mean, I think a more appropriate incident with Kobe
would be what happened in Colorado. You know, now, Kobe
never really you know, he played through that, rob and
he played great and by that point he's an absolute superstar,
and obviously a lot of people were it. You know,
(12:03):
it was a very negative situation.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
It's a different world we live. And he would have
never played today. He would have never played played.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
You think he would have his career would have been over. No, No,
he wouldn't have played during oh played through it. He wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
He wouldn't have the team wouldn't have been able to
give him a plane to fly him back and forth,
all the stuff that was done.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It was just a different time in this country. I
don't know. I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I mean, you got some guys playing the day that
have some accusations on them football player. I can think
of Von Miller, Josh Giddy, stuff out there.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
But it did not in court. Accusations not in court.
He was going to a court. It was good. It
was a trial, he was arraigned, he was I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Know that he wouldn't be able to play. I'm not no,
I'm talking about I doubt it. I really think it
is different. But it's a different it's a different world
we look. My point is he even it being he
overcame that, and so I think jo Moran can overcome this.
I don't think championship. No, but but Joa also well,
(13:08):
I don't know how old Kobe was at that point.
He's not as good as Kobe obviously, but I still think,
you know, what he did wasn't the same accusations as
Kobe had either. I mean, John Moran was really putting
himself in danger versus harming somebody else. So I think
(13:28):
he can, but it remained to be seen.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
We'll have to see.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I think obviously gotta play well, and he's gotta do
the right things off the court and try to come
through as But I think Robert Key is being remorseful,
you know, like admitting you were on the wrong path.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
People people could forgive you, but if you don't start there, Chris,
it's hard for people to ever.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
He olds up this facade of people was tripping. I
really ain't do that, you know what I mean? When
right right?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, they just overblew it, blew it out of proportion.
Then he won't get back, there's no way. But if
he does the right things, I think you can. All right,
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Slash credit card limitations do apply, all right, Rob, Last night,
as we said, really bad night for the Philadelphia Eagles
losing a game that they really needed to win. I mean,
they're still gonna make the playoffs and very likely to
(15:52):
still win the nfcast, so you know they'll be in
good shape. But they were bad last night, and that's
a game that they should have won.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Coming off two bad losses.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Now they've got three straight and Jalen Hurts Rob struggled badly.
Two interceptions, no tds passing. He did run for two tds.
But in his the last three games, which is the
three game losing streak, Rob, he's only passed for one touchdown,
thrown two interceptions, and he's got a couple of fumbles
(16:28):
as well. And they's run for you know, some touchdowns,
which he does, he's run for three in that case
that case, but only throwing for one touchdown in this
three game losing streak. And he's having, you know, a
down year. He started kind of mediocre, right then he
came on really strong.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Early on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I wouldn't say it was despite him, but I mean,
I don't think he was playing that badly, but I
think he was just playing he I mean, I would say.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
It was despite Hi because he wasn't like he played
the year before.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
No, no, he wasn't starring, but he was.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I thought he was mediocre or to solid, and then
he came on to play really strong and got himself
right near the top of the MVP race. And now,
like I said, he struggled recently. Now he's battled some injuries.
But the bottom line is Robbed you out there playing.
We're not gonna use injuries as an excuse. The question
(17:28):
I want to throw at you is do you think
last year when he had the twenty two touchdowns passing
only six interceptions, this year, for comparison sake, rob nineteen
touchdowns passing twelve interceptions.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Now he does have like fourteen.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Rush touchdowns, but a lot of that, I'm not belittling it,
but it's you know, it's the toush push, a lot
of brotherly shove, and he does play a role in
that because he's so strong with his legs.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
But still it's not like.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
You know, you're running for ten yard art touchdowns and
you know, eighteen yard touchdowns and things like that.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So do you think that last year.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Wasn't aberration or that that is something that Eagles fans
need to be fearful about.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I think it's you got to watch another year before
you can do that, you know what I mean, Like
he already paid him too, right, But you gotta look
another year before you can really say, oh, wow, that
was just one year. That's never gonna happen again, because
there were changes They've got to do offensive coordinator, Like,
you gotta be fair that that's been big. I think
that that's a part of if you're being honest and fair,
(18:39):
you know what I mean, like like right that those
are those are real changes that took place. So I
think it's hard to just say, uh, that was a
fluke or whatever. He just he hasn't played well, And
that's what happens stretches sometimes with quarterbacks and whatnot, and
and people go through a struggal or something and then
(19:01):
they work themselves out of it. So I'm not ready
to sound the alarm as I normally do on stuff,
not when it comes to Jalen Hurts. But yeah, I
think next year, depending on how the season ends up, Chris,
and I don't know, like you said, are they gonna
have a clunker against They got.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Two games with the Giants, don't they.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
If they lose they got two against the Giants and Arizona.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
And.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Do you know what I mean, Like, I think if
they lose.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
One of them, I'm sorry because if they lose one,
there is a strong chance that they would not win
the division. And then you're the fifth seed. Now granted
you get you probably get the NFC South. I think
they get the NFC South winner Tampa, maybe at Tampa
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
So you know that would be a game they perhaps
could overcome. But being the.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Fifth seed, Rob having to win three games on the
road just to get to the super Bowl, don't I
don't know that they do it? And so and Rob,
I'm sorry. You look at this. You say, we're we've
lost three straight. Our antennas are up all right, we
know there needs to be a change.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
We know we need to play better.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And we got the Giants and Arizona awaiting us. And
if we win, we get home field at vent with
a second seed. I mean they do if they lose two.
I think if they lose one of them, it's it's
really bad.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
But if they lose both two of them, beating a
division rival Chris twice in three weeks, I'm just saying
there's a chance that they can lose one of those.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Of course, it's a chance you said two though, if
they lose, Rob, they I.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Mean you get where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I hear you, because you're right, you can lose to
a divisional opponent. They're all rivalries. But in the situation
the event they've been.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
In three straight, you know what I mean? Like they
they need to win all three of these games.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
And I actually would like to see him, as somebody
had picked him to win the Super Bowl, I like
to see.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Him win two of them convincingly. Where are you on
your Super Bowl pick? You still like him? Or I
mean I'm sticking with the pick.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
No, no, no, Obviously looks like the best team in football,
let alone the NFC, Right, But you know I'm gonna
stick with the pick. But they they That's what I'm saying.
Like for me to feel better, Rob, I would like
to see them win two of these three games convincingly,
(21:36):
two of the three convincingly.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Hard to argue that. I get it. With the competition
that's out there, they should be able to.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Roll, especially now three losses in a row, losing to
a backup quarterback who had no timeouts last year, and
had to march the ball three hundred yards to beat you,
and he beat you.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yep, I mean ninety yards in like a minute and
a half with no time out.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
So that come on, you can't do it right, Thank you, Patricia,
Alicia Pencil looked at you.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
You said, it's saying Shane Steichen, who's doing a really
good job Rob in Indianapolis as a head coach.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Look at what he's doing with Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
But yeah, I think Jalen misses him and they're throwing
the ball a little more. I think, you know, he's
not running quite as much as he did last year.
I think that is somewhat to protect his health. One,
maybe the knee is you know who. We don't even
know exactly what's going on with the knee. It seems
like something is wrong. And two, remember he signed that
(22:38):
big contract, so they definitely want to keep him healthy
long term. And I think Jalen Rob considering how far
he's come and his work ethic, I mean, his work
ethic and character is what's helped him become a good passer.
Remember there were many it thought he wouldn't even be
a good passer. He's become a really good passer, and
(23:01):
I do think that those qualities will lead him to
continue to get better.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
But this is a down year for you, There's no
doubt about it. It's not over.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
They got time, but they haven't looked great all year.
They even as they win in these games, a lot
of them have been close. So all right, it is
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Speaker 1 (23:56):
Rob we talked about Micah Parsons, the terrific defender for
the Dallas Cowboys, has his own podcast doing well.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
But today was it today? Rob Gie?
Speaker 9 (24:09):
He did not like the responses in the media to
the Cowboys getting salacked thirty one to ten, particularly from
some former players.
Speaker 10 (24:23):
But here's what he had to say. Everyone just waits
for the Cowboys to lose. I saw multiple analysts, people
who are fake analysts who somehow got jobs on TV
saying there goes your boy, Like, oh, there he is,
That's the person we've been waiting for. It's almost to
the point where it's like almost sick. Former players are
waiting for other current players to fail so that way
(24:43):
they have something to talk about. It's not even to
just get into names. I mean, I feel like at
this point you kind of know who you are, and
it's like, why do you want a person to lose
so bad? It seems that a lot of people are
just waiting for people to fail.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Here's how I look at it, Rob.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
The Dallas Cowboys are you know, I think they are
America's team for better and for worse. They're not the
best foot franchise in NFL history.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
They haven't won the most.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
In fact, they haven't won in nearly thirty years, right,
but they are the glamour franchise, the most popular franchise.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I would say the national team of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And Mike's gotta understand that brings good and it brings bad.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
The good is that if you.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Play for the Cowboys, you get far more attention, which
can lead to endorsements, It can lead to podcasts, It
can lead to more money, even possibly bigger contracts than
anywhere else. Dak Prescott is not a superstar quarterback in
(26:02):
terms of ability. This year, he's been very good and
he's fine. You know, this would be the first year
you'd even consider him on that possibly on that level, right,
But he has been treated like a superstar quarterback as
far as his notoriety in a positive way, you know,
and the attention he gets, the commercials he's in. He's
(26:24):
been treated like a celebrity quarterback for most of his career.
Michael Parsons is not playing better than Miles Garrett, who
gets most.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Of the attention.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Who gets more attention Miles Garrett or Michael Parsons, TJ
wyt or Michael Parsons. And I'm not saying Mike. I'm
not saying he doesn't deserve it, because he's great too.
But those guys are playing just as well, if not better.
They don't get that. So you get the positive you
know attention.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
We talked Rob.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Everybody talks about the Cowboys on every TV and radio
debate show, whether they're good or bad, they are talked about.
Some of that's the owner too, but you get that attention,
but also you get the negative as well, and so yeah,
that gets criticized more.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
But your typical and same with Michael.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So I think I think it's you got to take
the positive or the negative.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
With the positive, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
He sounds naive, I mean, like the whole idea, Chris,
it was just a week ago that people were saying
that DK is in the conversation for MVP.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Lead was just a week But it was just a
week ago. So what are you talking about. Oh, we're
just waiting for it to lose.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
No, at what part don't you get people? He prays
on you, Chris, when you do well and people look
to look and they criticize or try to figure out
what went wrong when things don't go wrong right. I
can remember having a conversation with Rob Dibble, who was
the close of the Cincinnati Reads Chris, and Dibble was
(27:59):
lights out and he couldn't understand why when he blew
a save. Every so often we would come over to
get a response, and he said, I don't you guys
kill me. I said, dude, you're automatic. There's very little
like like we expect you to close the game. That's
(28:20):
how good you are, Chris. And it ain't like we're
not writing about his story when you don't, yes, because.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
You're that good.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
You don't go to Mariotto Rivera every day all when
you're at working Mario, you got you know, seven hundred
sayings or you know, no, when you give it up, Chris,
and we're not used to seeing you give it up,
that's the story.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I hate to break it to you. I have to
read one story.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
In the in the La Times, Chris in my life
that said every plane landed safely at La X yesterday.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
You read that story because I haven't. No, No, you're right.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
And also a great example in the NFL this year,
Robbi is the.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Kansas City Chiefs. The Kansas City Chiefs are nine and five.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right, they got a chance to still be the number
one seed in the AFC, And yes they they're not
the now they have the most drops, but they're not
the only team that has had drop passes this year.
They are a top eleven I believe scoring team in
the league. And they're still a very good team and
(29:31):
having a very good season. But people are talking about
them like they're done because of what, right we expect
better from them? The story is not when Mahomes throws
for four touchdowns in three hundred and fifty yards. The
story is wow, he only threw for two hundred and
twenty and had two picks.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And three weeks like that, that's a story.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, and now I agree. I think naive is a
very good word. And Mike has been the first of all.
Like I said, he's a great player. He deserves what
he's getting, but he also is benefiting Rob from being
a cowboy and he somebody needs to sit him down
and let him.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Know that that's the situation.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
And yes, you get the good you get the criticism,
but you also get the praise.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Rob, no doubt, and some of it is over the top.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
We talked about Dak, Like again, Dak is very good,
but Dak's been treated like he's one of the top
three or four quarterbacks in the last decade.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Ye, right, all right, it's time for trash talking.
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Listen, Tea, I don't know whether to smile. Lets you
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Speaker 5 (32:02):
Go man, all right, let's kick it off. James in California.
You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
Who you're trashing, James Man, I'm trashing Micah Parsons. Stop
whining like a petulant child whose mama didn't get him
a lego set for Christmas.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
Let's have mercy.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
If you set the edge better on these runs instead
of flapping your mouth and crying, maybe teams like the
Bills wouldn't be running up on you like you weren't
even there and didn't anybody teach you the principle of
being an edge rusher when it comes to the run game.
Stop coming inside and leaving a gap for those running
backs to jump cut to and then run the ball
down your team's throat. If you had more attention put
(32:46):
on your trade, your actual trade of being a defensive
monster that I know you are, instead of whining on
the airlines in your podcast, maybe your team wouldn't be
so despicable on the road. Please stop wanting and crying.
I have had kids that I've raised that do less
complaints that you're doing, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Man, man, that was fire right there. Take out the
papers in the trash. Oh, man, that's some good trash talking.
That was good.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Eric in Riverside, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (33:22):
Eric?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Who you trash show?
Speaker 12 (33:25):
What's up Robin Chris?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Man, I called it about like a month ago.
Speaker 12 (33:29):
I'm trashing my Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Man.
Speaker 12 (33:32):
Hey, man, we were looking good and we're just falling off.
Speaker 11 (33:36):
Man, I think we gotta fire Joe Berry.
Speaker 12 (33:39):
We lost to the Giants. Come on to a backup
quarterback Danny Devillo ran all over us. Lost of the
Buccaneers Baker Mayfield through a four touchdown. Man a lambo.
We couldn't stop them, dude, Hey, and I got hey,
it's it's I'm sad man.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
It's a depressing season.
Speaker 11 (33:57):
Man.
Speaker 12 (33:57):
And I got my son Isaac on the phone.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Isaac. How are you, Isaac? How are Christmas? Happy Holidays?
Speaker 13 (34:08):
Happy Christmas?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
How old are you? Nice? Okay, We'll enjoy the holiday season.
Speaker 13 (34:18):
Yeah, I'm trashy because on our defend, it gets a defense.
Nothing to get the Buccaneers because when you do it
to Mike Evans or something like that, and then he
school to touch on because there was like there were
like four people on Mike Evans and they couldn't taggle it,
(34:40):
and I wanted to fire Joe Berry.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Look at that, Oh my goodness, eleven year old asking
for head, ready, asking for heads?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Chris already eleven. It sounds like me when I was eleven.
Off of his head. He should be fired. You got
to look forward to Isaiah very nice, very hall. Yeah,
he'll be happy to have my life right, Okay, maybe not.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Dennis an Accrid. You're on the eye couple of Fox
Sports Radio. Who you're trashing Dennis by Steelers.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I am a fifty year fan of the pick Steelers.
You are five. They're having three, twenty five and four
some further by far just because he has to work
offensive line I have ever seen in there in the
time that I've been a fan, Tomblin, I have no
idea what you're putting out there, Gonna Field, but whatever
(35:33):
it is he needs to give, these guys are walking papers.
They can open up the line big enough. Nante Harris
flee through. They can't give our quarterbacks any time do
I throw or complete or passes? Why wide receivers break
off their pass through just because he can have target.
(35:54):
We've lost to New England and Arizona A two teams
combine four twenty. I U is right, but you need
to get it going.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
It's bad, no doubt, it is bad there, Chris, and Yeah,
it's gonna be interested to see what happens there. They
don't fire coaches, but it could be a parting of
the ways.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
It could be.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Robert in Georgia, you're in the eye couple of Fox
Sports reading who you're trashing.
Speaker 14 (36:18):
Robert's going on, Fellas, I'm trashing the young woman, that
young lady that supposed Anthony Edwards, and not on just
a situation about abortion and all that, because everybody has
their own beliefs, but just the situation of how it's
going to impact the child and now the child knowing
that if she obviously do decide to have a child
that you know, her father don't you know, may not
(36:40):
heal her, don't want didn't want to want her, father
didn't want her. And the world knows that the father
didn't want her. And that's just something that you have
to handle in the house, and you have to take
consideration of the bigger picture not to be upset and
last out because it's going to impact the child's future
and his relationship with the father.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
All Right, thanks God, all right, Robert, very thoughtful, Yeah, real,
no doubt. Gary in Houston, you're in the odd couple
of Fox sporduating who you're trashing?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Gary?
Speaker 15 (37:11):
That can't do anything right. You can't coach Star Brady,
you can't draft, you can't put together coaching staff. He
can't be Tommy DeVito. He was so bad on Sunday
that Andy Reid at Mercy Rulers asked, and this is
the guys. People think he's gonna fix the Chargers. Yeah, okay,
here's the tartu. But Belichick's lexi. If his coaching cree
was expressed as a function on a four dimensional car
season Courtingstoon, the moment he got.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Tom Brady would be zero zero zero zero.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
All right, Gary, taking out the whooping steack uh, Chris,
your favorite? Joseph in Indiana, you're in the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Who you trashing, Joseph.
Speaker 11 (37:46):
I'm tragic. I'm trashing to Ay five Bears, the NFL's
most overrated, most time team. That the team have not done.
The team only won one Super Bowl, didn't play anyone.
They would have played the Miami Dolve and the Super Bowl.
They were getting their butts whipped. I had have a
co order my job alway asked, were there eighty five
(38:08):
Bears really that good?
Speaker 8 (38:11):
How?
Speaker 11 (38:11):
And that team haven't done That team didn't do nothing
after that Super Bowl? Good night? And they are the
worst team, the most over high team of all time.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
My goodness, Birthday's fifteen and one. Joseph coming with strong.
Don't you forget that Buddy Ryan defense, Chris. They carried
him off after they won the Super Bowl. They carried
Buddy Ryan off. Yep, you don't see that that often, Right,
two coaches get carried off.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I love Buddy Ryan, but they should have carried off
Walter Peyton, right, he carried that franchise.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
They really disrespected him the whole Super Bowl. Chris did real,
it did all right. We got an hour left of
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Speaker 1 (01:55):
Speaking of coming correct, Rob the debut long away debut
for the season of Jah Morant Rob. And you know,
of course he was suspended for twenty five games for
a variety of things, but gunplay is really a big
(02:17):
He was a huge part of it, of course, and
so he sat out the first twenty five and they
were terrible.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Remember Rob, Over the.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Past few seasons as Joh emerged into being a superstar,
they actually won a lot of games at a high
clip when he was out. This year completely different, right
thet six and nineteen. Now that he's back, he's missed
the first twenty five games and so far he's got
(02:44):
three points. I got the game on. You know, he
looks he's moving fairly well. But he's back, and they
obviously are hoping that they can make a nice little
resurgence and get back into the Western Conference playoff race.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But what are your thoughts on job.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Of course, for him, obviously you want to win, but
for him, it's really about kind of rehabbing his image.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
And this is a guy that is.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Was a superstar and very young, but had already become
a superstar, one of the best young players in the league,
one of the best players period in the league. And
you know he put all of that in jeopardy because
of some foolishness.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
He's only twenty four years old.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
He's back and Rob g you said there were some
booze when he was introduced.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Even though the game is was in New.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Orleans, right, it's in New Orleans, and at least one reporter,
to Michael Cole of the Memphis News, Easy Be writer
for the Grizzlies, said that when Jah was first introduced,
there was a loud mix of cheers and booze from
the opposing crowd, which is gonna be ex right on
the road. But once he got his first touch during
live game action, loud smattering of booze in the arena.
(04:09):
He said, quote, Nola isn't as happy to see John
Moran as you.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's interesting. What are your thoughts? Right, Yeah, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I mean because this was self inflicted, Like this was
just especially after the first incident, Chris, where it was
kind of clear and yet he's right, what was it
a month or two months.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Later, suspended like eight games, kind of a slap on
the wrist, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It was, and then it was like later, like it
was a month or so later.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
So I think I don't know if he can really
rehabilitate his image fully most of the time, Chris, and
I want to make it clear, I'm not saying this
is the same scenario.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Okay, please do not put words in my mouth, but
I think.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
It would be like like I'm gonna say, he would
need to win an MVP, get to the NBA finals,
like something of that magnitude for people to say, man,
what a what a recovery.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Man, look at what he did to get back.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Because I think he's the enemy, or he's the public
enemy for a lot of opposing fans not at home,
you know, there'll probably be more forgiving, especially if the
team starts to win. Now, they were bad, but I
think people look at him sideways for a while, and
usually winning is a thing that can totally whitewashed Chris
(05:44):
that away where people are just like okay, And I
always remember the one thing that I always remember, and
this is the Ray Allen, I mean ray Lewis thing.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Chris. I covered that Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
When Baltimore won the Super Bowl, right, and he was
the MV and he was great and all that, but
just one year earlier, do you remember what he.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Was involved in?
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, he was involved.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Now he wasn't he didn't get convicted or anything, but
he was involved in where two men were killed, right,
stabbed or whatever and died at the Super Bowl of
the year prior, and he was covered in.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Blood and the other two guys who were with him.
It was just a mess.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
And one year later, Chris, he was a Super Bowl MVP.
And I remember writing my column and I only remember
the league because recently I was cleaning out some stuff
and I saw this. It was on a one of
the Detroit News and the lead was something like Chris
a year ago, Ray Allen was ray Lewis was covered
(06:50):
in blood. You know, at this very same event, and
this year he's covered in champagne celebrating you know this
moment and when all all that and what a turnaround
it was. And of course he's a great player, but
but I don't know if Jah can just do it
by returning back to the player. He was like, if
(07:13):
that's enough, That's That's what I'm saying, is he's got
to do a little bit more for people to shake
that tag up? Am I being too hard?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Do you see what I'm saying? Because you said win MVP?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And I know we know I'm a voter, uh and
we know media votes for MVP Rod. But I think
he may he have to go a long way in
cleaning up his image before he would win the MVP.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Some guys will hold that against him.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
But you see what I'm saying, Like he wouldn't, I don't.
I don't know. I think he's a young man. He's
only twenty four.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And look, say what you want about America and all that,
but it is shown with athletes time and time again
that it's willing to give second chances. Is you're talking
about that, Well, I think people lump this all together.
(08:14):
I think they lumped the eight game suspension. The first
is aident along with this incident. Because he's so young,
I mean, he's an immature, young kid. And if he yes,
of course he has to play well. But if he
will also show remorse, if he, you know, is a
(08:34):
good guy going forward, then I think he can rehabilitate
the image.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And of course his play. You know, he has to
play well.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I mean, it really has to play well to get
back to being a superstar. But even if he let's
say he lost this game and he never was, I
don't think this will happen. I think he's gonna be great.
But let's say he just was no longer a great
player for whatever reason. If he was a good guy
and didn't cause any more trouble, got rid of whatever
(09:09):
associations he needed to, that may have dragged him down
into some negative stuff and changed himself however he needed to,
I think he could rehabilitate that image.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Remember and Iverson didn't have you know, the incidents, you know,
like flashing guns like John Morant. But you remember Rob,
I mean when his girlfriend, remember he like had the
incident where she was like he kicked her out of
the house in Philadelphia, and she didn't have many clothes
(09:41):
on her, and I mean it was just a whole
you know, Iverson was constantly in the news for things
that you know, could have sullied his image, and they did.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
But I don't, No, he wasn't, but I'm sure I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I don't think it'll I think he I think it'll
take a while, but I think him being so young,
I do think he can come back from this, and
you know, if he does the right things.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I mean, he can't just go back to being silly.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
He or silly's not even the word, but just you know,
I think he has to be good with the media.
I think he has to do some pr Hopefully he's
got a smart team around him, and it has to
be sincere as far as we can tell, it has
to be sincere. Rob That's the thing, because he he
Where I do agree with you is he apologized before,
(10:36):
he said the right things before, and then he didn't
change his actions. He's going to have to be sincere,
and hopefully he will because he's a fantastic player.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Rob G, where are you at on this?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
You know, I kind of agree with Ron, and this
was something that he and I were talking about before
the show separately.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I'm just.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
This is similar again, Robin. You know, he brought up
the Ray Lewis, which is a really right because what
somebody was killing the.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Spectrum type thing.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
And even the one I'm gonna bring up is obviously
another terrible example, but it's the best I can think
of right now is when Kobe demanded a trade from
the Lakers trade.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Meet to Pluto or he did like twelve different interviews.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
And you remember that he was on every show, every
show he got introduced, his first game with the Lakers,
didn't trade him, and he got booed, you know, mercilessly
by Staple Center.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
And then he wins the MVP that season, gets them
to the finals. Suddenly he's their favorite son once again.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Alway's interesting though, because he thinks something similar after that happened.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
With he was at another let.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I mean, I think a more appropriate incident with Kobe
would be what happened in Colorado. You know, now, Kobe
never really you know, he played through that, rob and
he played great and by that point he's an absolute superstar,
and obviously a lot of people were it. You know,
(12:03):
it was a very negative situation.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
It's a different world we live. And he would have
never played today. He would have never played played.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
You think he would have his career would have been over. No, No,
he wouldn't have played during oh played through it. He wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
He wouldn't have the team wouldn't have been able to
give him a plane to fly him back and forth,
all the stuff that was done.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It was just a different time in this country. I
don't know. I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I mean, you got some guys playing the day that
have some accusations on them football player. I can think
of Von Miller, Josh Giddy, stuff out there.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
But it did not in court. Accusations not in court.
He was going to a court. It was good. It
was a trial, he was arraigned, he was I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Know that he wouldn't be able to play. I'm not no,
I'm talking about I doubt it. I really think it
is different. But it's a different it's a different world
we look. My point is he even it being he
overcame that, and so I think jo Moran can overcome this.
I don't think championship. No, but but Joa also well,
(13:08):
I don't know how old Kobe was at that point.
He's not as good as Kobe obviously, but I still think,
you know, what he did wasn't the same accusations as
Kobe had either. I mean, John Moran was really putting
himself in danger versus harming somebody else. So I think
(13:28):
he can, but it remained to be seen.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
We'll have to see.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I think obviously gotta play well, and he's gotta do
the right things off the court and try to come
through as But I think Robert Key is being remorseful,
you know, like admitting you were on the wrong path.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
People people could forgive you, but if you don't start there, Chris,
it's hard for people to ever.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
He olds up this facade of people was tripping. I
really ain't do that, you know what I mean? When
right right?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, they just overblew it, blew it out of proportion.
Then he won't get back, there's no way. But if
he does the right things, I think you can. All right,
it's the eye couple, Chris brucear Rob Parker, Fox Sports Radio,
Keep it locked, Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles struggling
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Speaker 3 (14:22):
We'll get into that next. Aye couple, Fox Sports Radio, struggling.
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Slash credit card limitations do apply, all right, Rob, Last night,
as we said, really bad night for the Philadelphia Eagles
losing a game that they really needed to win. I mean,
they're still gonna make the playoffs and very likely to
(15:52):
still win the nfcast, so you know they'll be in
good shape. But they were bad last night, and that's
a game that they should have won.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Coming off two bad losses.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Now they've got three straight and Jalen Hurts Rob struggled badly.
Two interceptions, no tds passing. He did run for two tds.
But in his the last three games, which is the
three game losing streak, Rob, he's only passed for one touchdown,
thrown two interceptions, and he's got a couple of fumbles
(16:28):
as well. And they's run for you know, some touchdowns,
which he does, he's run for three in that case
that case, but only throwing for one touchdown in this
three game losing streak. And he's having, you know, a
down year. He started kind of mediocre, right then he
came on really strong.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Early on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I wouldn't say it was despite him, but I mean,
I don't think he was playing that badly, but I
think he was just playing he I mean, I would say.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
It was despite Hi because he wasn't like he played
the year before.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
No, no, he wasn't starring, but he was.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I thought he was mediocre or to solid, and then
he came on to play really strong and got himself
right near the top of the MVP race. And now,
like I said, he struggled recently. Now he's battled some injuries.
But the bottom line is Robbed you out there playing.
We're not gonna use injuries as an excuse. The question
(17:28):
I want to throw at you is do you think
last year when he had the twenty two touchdowns passing
only six interceptions, this year, for comparison sake, rob nineteen
touchdowns passing twelve interceptions.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Now he does have like fourteen.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Rush touchdowns, but a lot of that, I'm not belittling it,
but it's you know, it's the toush push, a lot
of brotherly shove, and he does play a role in
that because he's so strong with his legs.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
But still it's not like.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
You know, you're running for ten yard art touchdowns and
you know, eighteen yard touchdowns and things like that.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So do you think that last year.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Wasn't aberration or that that is something that Eagles fans
need to be fearful about.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I think it's you got to watch another year before
you can do that, you know what I mean, Like
he already paid him too, right, But you gotta look
another year before you can really say, oh, wow, that
was just one year. That's never gonna happen again, because
there were changes They've got to do offensive coordinator, Like,
you gotta be fair that that's been big. I think
that that's a part of if you're being honest and fair,
(18:39):
you know what I mean, like like right that those
are those are real changes that took place. So I
think it's hard to just say, uh, that was a
fluke or whatever. He just he hasn't played well, And
that's what happens stretches sometimes with quarterbacks and whatnot, and
and people go through a struggal or something and then
(19:01):
they work themselves out of it. So I'm not ready
to sound the alarm as I normally do on stuff,
not when it comes to Jalen Hurts. But yeah, I
think next year, depending on how the season ends up, Chris,
and I don't know, like you said, are they gonna
have a clunker against They got.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Two games with the Giants, don't they.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
If they lose they got two against the Giants and Arizona.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
And.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Do you know what I mean, Like, I think if
they lose.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
One of them, I'm sorry because if they lose one,
there is a strong chance that they would not win
the division. And then you're the fifth seed. Now granted
you get you probably get the NFC South. I think
they get the NFC South winner Tampa, maybe at Tampa
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
So you know that would be a game they perhaps
could overcome. But being the.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Fifth seed, Rob having to win three games on the
road just to get to the super Bowl, don't I
don't know that they do it? And so and Rob,
I'm sorry. You look at this. You say, we're we've
lost three straight. Our antennas are up all right, we
know there needs to be a change.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
We know we need to play better.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And we got the Giants and Arizona awaiting us. And
if we win, we get home field at vent with
a second seed. I mean they do if they lose two.
I think if they lose one of them, it's it's
really bad.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
But if they lose both two of them, beating a
division rival Chris twice in three weeks, I'm just saying
there's a chance that they can lose one of those.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Of course, it's a chance you said two though, if
they lose, Rob, they I.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Mean you get where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I hear you, because you're right, you can lose to
a divisional opponent. They're all rivalries. But in the situation
the event they've been.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
In three straight, you know what I mean? Like they
they need to win all three of these games.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
And I actually would like to see him, as somebody
had picked him to win the Super Bowl, I like
to see.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Him win two of them convincingly. Where are you on
your Super Bowl pick? You still like him? Or I
mean I'm sticking with the pick.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
No, no, no, Obviously looks like the best team in football,
let alone the NFC, Right, But you know I'm gonna
stick with the pick. But they they That's what I'm saying.
Like for me to feel better, Rob, I would like
to see them win two of these three games convincingly,
(21:36):
two of the three convincingly.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Hard to argue that. I get it. With the competition
that's out there, they should be able to.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Roll, especially now three losses in a row, losing to
a backup quarterback who had no timeouts last year, and
had to march the ball three hundred yards to beat you,
and he beat you.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yep, I mean ninety yards in like a minute and
a half with no time out.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
So that come on, you can't do it right, Thank you, Patricia,
Alicia Pencil looked at you.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
You said, it's saying Shane Steichen, who's doing a really
good job Rob in Indianapolis as a head coach.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Look at what he's doing with Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
But yeah, I think Jalen misses him and they're throwing
the ball a little more. I think, you know, he's
not running quite as much as he did last year.
I think that is somewhat to protect his health. One,
maybe the knee is you know who. We don't even
know exactly what's going on with the knee. It seems
like something is wrong. And two, remember he signed that
(22:38):
big contract, so they definitely want to keep him healthy
long term. And I think Jalen Rob considering how far
he's come and his work ethic, I mean, his work
ethic and character is what's helped him become a good passer.
Remember there were many it thought he wouldn't even be
a good passer. He's become a really good passer, and
(23:01):
I do think that those qualities will lead him to
continue to get better.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
But this is a down year for you, There's no
doubt about it. It's not over.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
They got time, but they haven't looked great all year.
They even as they win in these games, a lot
of them have been close. So all right, it is
the odd couple Chris, Bruce Sard and Rob Parker. It
is a trash talking Tuesday. You can start calling in
now or within a few minutes. You got thirty to
forty seconds to trash anyone or anything in the world
(23:32):
of sports. Some of you may trash Michael Parsons. Heck,
Michael Parsons is trashing people because he's tired of these
guys running their mouths.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
That's next eye couple. Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 1 (23:56):
Rob we talked about Micah Parsons, the terrific defender for
the Dallas Cowboys, has his own podcast doing well.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
But today was it today? Rob Gie?
Speaker 9 (24:09):
He did not like the responses in the media to
the Cowboys getting salacked thirty one to ten, particularly from
some former players.
Speaker 10 (24:23):
But here's what he had to say. Everyone just waits
for the Cowboys to lose. I saw multiple analysts, people
who are fake analysts who somehow got jobs on TV
saying there goes your boy, Like, oh, there he is,
That's the person we've been waiting for. It's almost to
the point where it's like almost sick. Former players are
waiting for other current players to fail so that way
(24:43):
they have something to talk about. It's not even to
just get into names. I mean, I feel like at
this point you kind of know who you are, and
it's like, why do you want a person to lose
so bad? It seems that a lot of people are
just waiting for people to fail.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Here's how I look at it, Rob.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
The Dallas Cowboys are you know, I think they are
America's team for better and for worse. They're not the
best foot franchise in NFL history.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
They haven't won the most.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
In fact, they haven't won in nearly thirty years, right,
but they are the glamour franchise, the most popular franchise.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I would say the national team of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And Mike's gotta understand that brings good and it brings bad.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
The good is that if you.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Play for the Cowboys, you get far more attention, which
can lead to endorsements, It can lead to podcasts, It
can lead to more money, even possibly bigger contracts than
anywhere else. Dak Prescott is not a superstar quarterback in
(26:02):
terms of ability. This year, he's been very good and
he's fine. You know, this would be the first year
you'd even consider him on that possibly on that level, right,
But he has been treated like a superstar quarterback as
far as his notoriety in a positive way, you know,
and the attention he gets, the commercials he's in. He's
(26:24):
been treated like a celebrity quarterback for most of his career.
Michael Parsons is not playing better than Miles Garrett, who
gets most.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Of the attention.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Who gets more attention Miles Garrett or Michael Parsons, TJ
wyt or Michael Parsons. And I'm not saying Mike. I'm
not saying he doesn't deserve it, because he's great too.
But those guys are playing just as well, if not better.
They don't get that. So you get the positive you
know attention.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
We talked Rob.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Everybody talks about the Cowboys on every TV and radio
debate show, whether they're good or bad, they are talked about.
Some of that's the owner too, but you get that attention,
but also you get the negative as well, and so yeah,
that gets criticized more.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
But your typical and same with Michael.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So I think I think it's you got to take
the positive or the negative.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
With the positive, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
He sounds naive, I mean, like the whole idea, Chris,
it was just a week ago that people were saying
that DK is in the conversation for MVP.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Lead was just a week But it was just a
week ago. So what are you talking about. Oh, we're
just waiting for it to lose.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
No, at what part don't you get people? He prays
on you, Chris, when you do well and people look
to look and they criticize or try to figure out
what went wrong when things don't go wrong right. I
can remember having a conversation with Rob Dibble, who was
the close of the Cincinnati Reads Chris, and Dibble was
(27:59):
lights out and he couldn't understand why when he blew
a save. Every so often we would come over to
get a response, and he said, I don't you guys
kill me. I said, dude, you're automatic. There's very little
like like we expect you to close the game. That's
(28:20):
how good you are, Chris. And it ain't like we're
not writing about his story when you don't, yes, because.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
You're that good.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
You don't go to Mariotto Rivera every day all when
you're at working Mario, you got you know, seven hundred
sayings or you know, no, when you give it up, Chris,
and we're not used to seeing you give it up,
that's the story.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I hate to break it to you. I have to
read one story.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
In the in the La Times, Chris in my life
that said every plane landed safely at La X yesterday.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
You read that story because I haven't. No, No, you're right.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
And also a great example in the NFL this year,
Robbi is the.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Kansas City Chiefs. The Kansas City Chiefs are nine and five.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right, they got a chance to still be the number
one seed in the AFC, And yes they they're not
the now they have the most drops, but they're not
the only team that has had drop passes this year.
They are a top eleven I believe scoring team in
the league. And they're still a very good team and
(29:31):
having a very good season. But people are talking about
them like they're done because of what, right we expect
better from them? The story is not when Mahomes throws
for four touchdowns in three hundred and fifty yards. The
story is wow, he only threw for two hundred and
twenty and had two picks.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And three weeks like that, that's a story.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah, and now I agree. I think naive is a
very good word. And Mike has been the first of all.
Like I said, he's a great player. He deserves what
he's getting, but he also is benefiting Rob from being
a cowboy and he somebody needs to sit him down
and let him.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Know that that's the situation.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
And yes, you get the good you get the criticism,
but you also get the praise.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Rob, no doubt, and some of it is over the top.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
We talked about Dak, Like again, Dak is very good,
but Dak's been treated like he's one of the top
three or four quarterbacks in the last decade.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Ye, right, all right, it's time for trash talking.
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Three sixty nine. Trash Talking Tuesday is now, don't you
talk about me?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It's trash Talking Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Listen, Tea, I don't know whether to smile. Lets you
kick a field.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Go man, all right, let's kick it off. James in California.
You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
Who you're trashing, James Man, I'm trashing Micah Parsons. Stop
whining like a petulant child whose mama didn't get him
a lego set for Christmas.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
Let's have mercy.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
If you set the edge better on these runs instead
of flapping your mouth and crying, maybe teams like the
Bills wouldn't be running up on you like you weren't
even there and didn't anybody teach you the principle of
being an edge rusher when it comes to the run game.
Stop coming inside and leaving a gap for those running
backs to jump cut to and then run the ball
down your team's throat. If you had more attention put
(32:46):
on your trade, your actual trade of being a defensive
monster that I know you are, instead of whining on
the airlines in your podcast, maybe your team wouldn't be
so despicable on the road. Please stop wanting and crying.
I have had kids that I've raised that do less
complaints that you're doing, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Man, man, that was fire right there. Take out the
papers in the trash. Oh, man, that's some good trash talking.
That was good.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Eric in Riverside, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (33:22):
Eric?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Who you trash show?
Speaker 12 (33:25):
What's up Robin Chris?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Man, I called it about like a month ago.
Speaker 12 (33:29):
I'm trashing my Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Man.
Speaker 12 (33:32):
Hey, man, we were looking good and we're just falling off.
Speaker 11 (33:36):
Man, I think we gotta fire Joe Berry.
Speaker 12 (33:39):
We lost to the Giants. Come on to a backup
quarterback Danny Devillo ran all over us. Lost of the
Buccaneers Baker Mayfield through a four touchdown. Man a lambo.
We couldn't stop them, dude, Hey, and I got hey,
it's it's I'm sad man.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
It's a depressing season.
Speaker 11 (33:57):
Man.
Speaker 12 (33:57):
And I got my son Isaac on the phone.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Isaac. How are you, Isaac? How are Christmas? Happy Holidays?
Speaker 13 (34:08):
Happy Christmas?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
How old are you? Nice? Okay, We'll enjoy the holiday season.
Speaker 13 (34:18):
Yeah, I'm trashy because on our defend, it gets a defense.
Nothing to get the Buccaneers because when you do it
to Mike Evans or something like that, and then he
school to touch on because there was like there were
like four people on Mike Evans and they couldn't taggle it,
(34:40):
and I wanted to fire Joe Berry.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Look at that, Oh my goodness, eleven year old asking
for head, ready, asking for heads?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Chris already eleven. It sounds like me when I was eleven.
Off of his head. He should be fired. You got
to look forward to Isaiah very nice, very hall. Yeah,
he'll be happy to have my life right, Okay, maybe not.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Dennis an Accrid. You're on the eye couple of Fox
Sports Radio. Who you're trashing Dennis by Steelers.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I am a fifty year fan of the pick Steelers.
You are five. They're having three, twenty five and four
some further by far just because he has to work
offensive line I have ever seen in there in the
time that I've been a fan, Tomblin, I have no
idea what you're putting out there, Gonna Field, but whatever
(35:33):
it is he needs to give, these guys are walking papers.
They can open up the line big enough. Nante Harris
flee through. They can't give our quarterbacks any time do
I throw or complete or passes? Why wide receivers break
off their pass through just because he can have target.
(35:54):
We've lost to New England and Arizona A two teams
combine four twenty. I U is right, but you need
to get it going.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
It's bad, no doubt, it is bad there, Chris, and Yeah,
it's gonna be interested to see what happens there. They
don't fire coaches, but it could be a parting of
the ways.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
It could be.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Robert in Georgia, you're in the eye couple of Fox
Sports reading who you're trashing.
Speaker 14 (36:18):
Robert's going on, Fellas, I'm trashing the young woman, that
young lady that supposed Anthony Edwards, and not on just
a situation about abortion and all that, because everybody has
their own beliefs, but just the situation of how it's
going to impact the child and now the child knowing
that if she obviously do decide to have a child
that you know, her father don't you know, may not
(36:40):
heal her, don't want didn't want to want her, father
didn't want her. And the world knows that the father
didn't want her. And that's just something that you have
to handle in the house, and you have to take
consideration of the bigger picture not to be upset and
last out because it's going to impact the child's future
and his relationship with the father.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
All Right, thanks God, all right, Robert, very thoughtful, Yeah, real,
no doubt. Gary in Houston, you're in the odd couple
of Fox sporduating who you're trashing?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Gary?
Speaker 15 (37:11):
That can't do anything right. You can't coach Star Brady,
you can't draft, you can't put together coaching staff. He
can't be Tommy DeVito. He was so bad on Sunday
that Andy Reid at Mercy Rulers asked, and this is
the guys. People think he's gonna fix the Chargers. Yeah, okay,
here's the tartu. But Belichick's lexi. If his coaching cree
was expressed as a function on a four dimensional car
season Courtingstoon, the moment he got.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Tom Brady would be zero zero zero zero.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
All right, Gary, taking out the whooping steack uh, Chris,
your favorite? Joseph in Indiana, you're in the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Who you trashing, Joseph.
Speaker 11 (37:46):
I'm tragic. I'm trashing to Ay five Bears, the NFL's
most overrated, most time team. That the team have not done.
The team only won one Super Bowl, didn't play anyone.
They would have played the Miami Dolve and the Super Bowl.
They were getting their butts whipped. I had have a
co order my job alway asked, were there eighty five
(38:08):
Bears really that good?
Speaker 8 (38:11):
How?
Speaker 11 (38:11):
And that team haven't done That team didn't do nothing
after that Super Bowl? Good night? And they are the
worst team, the most over high team of all time.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
My goodness, Birthday's fifteen and one. Joseph coming with strong.
Don't you forget that Buddy Ryan defense, Chris. They carried
him off after they won the Super Bowl. They carried
Buddy Ryan off. Yep, you don't see that that often, Right,
two coaches get carried off.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I love Buddy Ryan, but they should have carried off
Walter Peyton, right, he carried that franchise.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
They really disrespected him the whole Super Bowl. Chris did real,
it did all right. We got an hour left of
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