December 21, 2023 • 38 mins
Chris and Rob debate whether Jerry Rice’s comparison of Brock Purdy to Joe Montana holds water, and the Odd Couple Crew discuss marriage etiquette in this week’s edition of Shop Talk. Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Eddie House swings by to discuss the Los Angeles Lakers’ recent swoon, how much blame Monty Williams deserves for the Detroit Pistons’ long losing streak, how the San Antonio Spurs are using Victor Wembanyama and much more!
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Speaker 2 (01:47):
All right, Rob. We have heard many people now praise
brock Purty.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We had Dante Whitner who calls games for them broadcasts
out there in the Bay Area. Former player for the
forty nine ers. He's talked about perty is the MVP
on this show we have had on ESPN. You've heard
Rex Ryan say it was the next Joe Mint He's
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the first one I heard him compare him to Joe
Montana and now Joe Montana's favorite receiver. A guy that
many think Rob is not only the best pretty much
everybody thinks he's the best wide receive ever, but somebody
people even think he's the best football player period. That
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of course being Jerry Rice and who won two Super
Bowls with Montana, And here he is rob talking about
Rock Perty.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Rock reminds me a lot of Montana. His coolness. He
doesn't get rather you need your quarterback to be that
with but he's doing the leadership, his composure launching him
when he first took over the Alatoly behind his throats
A man Nightpiro.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You know, catchable ball, you know like that? You know,
I love it? Man and his decision making. He doesn't
hold on to the ball that long.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Rap?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
He was just talking about being cool like Joe Montana.
That's the only mention he made of Joe Montana is coolness.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
That's fine a lot of I mean, I'm not saying
he's Joe Montana. I'm just saying he did say more
than that. He's talking to me.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
That's all that he talked about the quick release, he
talked about the accuracy. I mean, if you listen to
the clip he said he was MVP. No, we talked
about him being MVP. But I'm saying what he said.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
You want to hear it again because I'm just saying
he didn't just say it was cool like Joe Montanna.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
He brought up a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Right, But when you talk about the Joe Montana part
is when he talked about his coolness, right and not?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
He said, he reminds me a lot of Joe Montange.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
He said his coolness, and then he started talking about
his other qualities. So I took it like he was
saying those other qualities reminded.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Him of Joe.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I didn't take it that way.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Okay, So that's all you got to say about it?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, what do you say? What do you have to
say about We've talked about rock Party and I know
you're high on him, which is cool, and he's in
the running for the MVP. But I'm more like, uh,
who do we have on yesterday?
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
God? The GM got it? Randy Mueller. I'm in Randy
and I are in lockstep and Randy you know, the
guy who's been in the league. And he looked at
it and was with me with Lamar and and he
looked at the stuff that Lamar does. So I'm a
Lamar guy as far as MVP despite the numbers. But
go ahead, what did you think about Jerry Rich and
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his endorsement? Is that what you got?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm not even talking about m v P.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I'm talking about him comparing Rock Party to Joe Montana.
I'm not gonna sit here and say Rock Party is
going to be Joe Montana or or close. I mean
Joe Montana. You think he's the goat, and that's fair.
He's in the discussion. I think he's second, right behind
(05:02):
Tom Brady. I think he's but everybody would have him
in their top five. So you're talking about an absolute,
you know, all time, all time great. So I'm not
gonna sit here and say Black Party.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Is going to be got.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But I do agree with Jerry and that, you know Rob.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I am big on intangibles when it comes to top quarterbacks.
I think Tom Brady, all of them. There's a certain
physical standard, if you will, that you have to meet. Uh,
if you can't meet a certain physical threshold of ability
arm strength, and were talking about quarterbacks arm strength, some
(05:45):
degree of athleticism, maybe not athletic relative to other NFL players,
but some degree of athleticism, like there's a bar you
have to hit, and if you can hit that bar,
then I think think in tangibles are very important when
we talk about excellent quarterbacks. Brady the Goat. Not the
(06:07):
strongest arm in the world. Good arm, but not the
strongest in the world. Montana not the strongest arm in
the world, But those two and many of the other
top ones had the coolness Jerry Rice was talking about,
the composure under pressure, make quick decisions, accurate with their passes,
can make all of the throws and process quickly. If
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the first option is not, the second option not the third,
they're on to the third or fourth option quicker than
most quarterbacks. I think those things are incredibly important when
we talk about quarterback and at the NFL level, and
I think that's why we see some guys that aren't
the best athletes or guys they weren't even like incredible
(06:53):
superstars in college or at the biggest programs that Alabama's,
the USC's and so on and so forth, who go
on and have sometimes be some of the greatest college
or MFL quarterbacks we've ever.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Seen because they're not the like at Alabama.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
You're throwing to the best receiver, receivers that are way
better than everybody else, and so are your linemen and
everybody else on your team, and so you don't generally
have to go past the first or second option a lot,
you know, whereas other quarterbacks may have to process longer,
may have to make more out of nothing than a
guy at a big school. Sometimes it's not a rule,
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but it's a lot of times that's the case. And
I think Party has all that. So I think that's
similar to Montana. And also Rob, you know this, Montana
was a third round pick. Montana was the fourth quarterback
taken in his draft in nineteen seventy nine. Montana didn't
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start his first two years in San Francisco. Montana was
good in college, he didn't lighten it up. He was
part time start most of his college career at Notre Dame.
And then you know, he had moments though that made
you think, oh, maybe he had big moments. And I
know numbers are different, but just Rob, this is three
(08:11):
years essentially in college, twenty five touchdowns, twenty five picks.
It's not the same as today. But that's also not
you know, gonna make anybody go crazy. And obviously he
became one of the best we've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
In the pro. So I think those things are similar.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Where I think is different, Rob, And look, I've been
one to say, well, Montana had rice and Montana had
Roger Craig, who was great even though he wasn't a
Hall of Famer. And he had John Taylor who was
great after the catch, even though he wasn't a Hall
of Famer, and all that and all that's true, but
that was when Montana won MVPs eighty nine to ninety.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Montana. Rob won two Super Bowls before Jerry Rice walked in.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I tell people the all the time when I'd give
his resume, two with Jerry and two without.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
So don't make it like the old Jerry. Right, he wasn't.
And that's where I think it's the difference. I'm not
saying Perty couldn't be good. I'm not gonna say win
super bowls without these guys. I'm not even gonna say
I don't know that he'd be good or great without
these weapons he has. I know Montana was, and Dwight
Clark was good, but he's not a Hall of Famer.
(09:19):
And some of the other players that he had were,
you know, were good, they won two Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But Rob, that's to me, that's the difference.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Party.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
We may never see Party without a stacked team, or
at least not for a while. So it's hard to
compare that, but I I those are my comparisons, and
then those are my differences in that Montana would have
been great. He was great with or without Jerry Rice
and a lot of other great skill position players. We
don't know that about perty.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, that's always been my case with Joe Montana is
like for people when when you just look at it,
his resume is ridiculous. It just is the four Super
Bowl Bowls Chris two with Jerry, two without Jerry, eleven touchdown.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Past remember Rob A lot of people highlight was the
Dwight Clark right that that's a great throw to Dwight Clark.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Uh and and I said two and Chris he had
eleven touchdowns, no picks in the Super Bowl. He won
the MVP in the Super Bowl three times. And the
other one is Chris two of those Super Bowls he
needed a touchdown to win the game, not a field
goal like he had to get a touchdown and that
that's it's different. It's not taken away from anybody else,
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but when your team needed to win two Super Bowls
where you need a touchdown to win the game and
he gets it done, I mean, his resume is cool
and he has what none of you have, the highest
quarterback waiting of anybody in the Super Bowl, right, Like
I think he he has that, Yeah, I think, yeah,
(10:56):
I think he owns that as well, Chris. So it
just speaks volumes as far as what he was able
to do. He's a one of a kind guy, and
I think that's why a lot of people look at him,
and if they're not on the Brady train, it's hard
not to think of Joe Montana because people thought of
Joe Montana, and that's what it separates him from Dan Marino.
(11:17):
Dan Marino did a lot of stuff in a league
Chris that wasn't throwing the football like that. He was
looking modern day now numbers, right, he was doing that
now back in the eighties and right. So that's what
makes him so impressive and why people overlooked that he
only got to that one super Bowl his second year
and never got back yep, because it's incredible what he's
(11:39):
able to do.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
So Yeah, and that's what I mean by intangibles. I mean,
nobody in their right mind would say Montana was more
physically gifted than Marino, but between the years.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
He had it all.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
And so yeah, I look I think rock Purdy. We'll
see what he ends up doing. Again, I'm not even
gonna sit here and say he's I've never compared him
to Montana other than this conversation. You know, I saw
Rex Ryan do it, and now we see Rights do it.
I'm not even I'm not going to do that. I'll
talk about him and there difference is now because it's
(12:18):
a topic. But I'll just say this, Rob, you don't
and I'm not saying he's gonna be this, but you
don't become that guy until you become that guy.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Like Joe Montana, Nobody thought he was gonna be Joe
Montana until he was Joe Montana.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Tom Brady, nobody thought, Kurt Warner, nobody thought, you know,
like and.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
We'll see what brock Perdy becomes. But there's guys that
come from you know nowhere, so to speak, that become
great that because of where they came from, you're going
to underrate them until they make it to the point
where you.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Just can't anymore. That's what that acknowledge it.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
But that's what I've said about brock Purty with the
whole this season and everything, that no matter what fair
or not, Chris is not fair, to be honest, They
will not like rubber stamp them until they see in
the postseason that he gets them to where they are
supposed to go. Any mister An Obviously we talked about
(13:22):
it before. If the defense gives up forty five points,
no one's gonna be blaming Rock Party. But until he
can win for them, that's the ultimate stamp. That's when
people can can no longer wonder or question. You know
what I mean, where you are and where you fit in?
And that's just that's how it's gonna be for him from.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
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On Fox, the Goat receiver Jerry Rice compares Brock Perdy
to his former quarterback, the great Joe Montana. You think
that's accurate or ridiculous? Your thoughts? Next is Christ and Rob?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
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Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
What's up Corey?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Good evening, guys, So Corey and Fresno I called you guys.
Last time this year, Thursday before Christmas, I was Corey
in Virginia. Okay, if you guys don't remember, I called
to give the shout out to our man Ty Shirt's
Tower of Trivia. Yes, and then Shawn and Sacramento followed
to call to say the exact same thing. But I
(15:52):
just want to call again to wish you guys a
happy holiday, say thanks for everything, really appreciate just a
great year out of everybody. Rob does a great job
when he fills in on the co host. Uh, it's Thursday,
so we got our self proclaimed Update anchor of the Year,
Steve the Seger on the desk, no doubt, and so.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
We appreciate it. Happy holidays, Corey.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
That is so nice.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That is really nice.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Absolutely well, we appreciate the great work you guys do,
and I hope you have a happy holiday. And also
a shout out to Dre in Massachusetts who usually calls
in right around this time.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
I'm on the way home.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
From work every day his calls, SOO say hey to
him for me and you guys have a happy holiday.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Well, we'll thank you. He was just trying to be nice.
He loves the show and we appreciate that. Chrich and
I talk about all the time. Never take, ever, ever, ever,
for granted the people who listen to your show.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Rob said, he mentioned everybody except Rob G.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
No, he loves robb G.
Speaker 10 (16:50):
I mean he mentioned everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You didn't mentioned him. I mean Rob G.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
Steve's not even here full time, and Steve got a
shout out.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yes, he said Steve expected but to get a little love.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Steve is the best what do he said? The best anchor?
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Right we left Steve.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
He's steady, He's not not off. The doesn't fly off
the handle. He's just as steady as it goes at
Fox Sports Radio. He's not like some loony looney tick.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Doing an update, We must not have any college.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
No, okay, can you guys hear me? No we can't,
Tom Looney, Chris No, that nobody got moved by Jerry
Rice's rock party, Joe.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Montan Looney, what you got? What's up?
Speaker 9 (17:39):
Man?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Happy holiday? Is he off?
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Now?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
He's off?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Now? All right? Rob G? I know you are moved
by Jerry Rice.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, You're moved right, Rob G?
Speaker 9 (17:51):
Absolutely, because they I'm a rock pretty guy, you know,
I I tweeted out back in October before Rock Party
was even a thing, and I thought this was going
to be his Joe Burrow season. What I meant by
that was Joe Burrow. His first year, they're like, oh,
you know, he's got some flashes. He looked pretty good,
and he towards kne ups and then when he gets
see the rest of it. But in year two he
comes out like Gangbusters, surrounded by talent similar toly to
(18:15):
Brock Party, and he gets them to the super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
They didn't win it.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
But once that season was over, when we just conceding,
you know what, Joe Burrows, that guy.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
He's one.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
He's Joe Burrow.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
Please, Ron, if you just look at the way they play.
Does Joe Burrow have a cannon for an arm?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
No?
Speaker 8 (18:31):
It is? Is he elusive in the pocket like Lamar?
Speaker 7 (18:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But see here's the difference, though, What can I give
you the difference.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
Drafted number one versus no?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Okay, God that Joe Burrow went to a bad team
that hadn't done anything in the postseason or anything. Brock
Perty is on a team that had already been to
a super Bowl. With that, I'm just saying, like that
that's the difference. Like one guy has made an immediate
impact and turned a franchise around. Would you give me that?
Speaker 8 (18:58):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But that's that's that's why I say, you know what
I mean, That's why it's hard to really give brock
Purty that because they were going They went to the
super Bowl without him, They went to three NFC Championship games, Chris,
you know what I mean, Like they've done this stuff.
It's just not to take anything away from him because
he's clearly made them better.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Right but but but but they've already done that.
Speaker 9 (19:19):
Right and and the thing Joe Burg there's a ton
of credit for the obviously because it takes a special
kind of guy emotionally and many.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Remember people told him don't go to Cincinnati.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
But it's not like when he you know, since he's
been there, the cover has been there. Like their weapons
are just as good as any team in the in
the in the league.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Receivers strictly receivers are.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
Chase Higgins, Boyd Mixing, and Zach Taylor is also from
the Shanahan coaching tree. So it's like it's not as
crazy as I think that people might sound.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
On his face. The Borough compared, and I think I was.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
I'm honestly surprised at given how much success brock perty
has had this season, that people are not coming around
to him.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
But even once you called football people, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
And I know some people think there are people in
the league doesn't want to see him succeed because they
missed on them or whatever. I don't know. I just
think that people who are closer to a look at
a lot of that stuff and say, and even I
know I heard Doug Gottlieby been saying. I'm not saying
that Doug Gottlieb's end all be all on, but he
(20:24):
even said and I thought that was even extreme that
fifteen quarterbacks could do what brock Purty's doing. Like yeah,
like no, I'm just saying, right, I think that's extreme
to say like anybody would just just put anybody in there.
He said, fifteen different quarterbacks could do exactly what brock
Party's doing given what he has around him, and that's
(20:44):
why a lot of people have discounted them.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Here's the thing, and may I don't know, but what
I will say is this, some of the hypotheticals are
kind of ridiculous because Rob you know that, you don't know,
there might be quarter backs better individually than Brock Party
that put them in that situation and they wouldn't be
as good we see it in. I mean, I know
(21:08):
basketball is obviously a completely different sport, but there are
times when certain guys are better built for certain systems,
and you know, I just think that that is something
like like to just say, you could throw any competent
quarterback into San Francisco and they would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I mean, if there if maybe if it's a quarterback
that's not maybe it would be different.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
They might be great, but it might be different.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
You know, Purty is a very on time quarterback, very
you know, so as Tula in Miami. You get a
quarterback that's not as much like that, and it might
it maybe would It would be great, but it would
look different.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You know. So I think that's something.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
But you know, everybody's throwing out hypotheticals like we don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I mean, we just throw so and so there. Yeah,
give them.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I mean, these guys as weapons and they're great, no
doubt about that, all right. It is the odd couple.
We got our man Eddie house around the Corner.
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NBA Sharpshooter, NBA Champion. We welcome in our man edd house,
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the house.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
What up, man, gentlemen, how you guys doing? Happy holidays?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yes, sir, happy holidays. Let's start with the Lakers one
in four. I believe since they won that that end
season tournament, it seem.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I feel like they put particularly.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Lebron and probably he got his teammates to buy in
that they just put a lot more emotional energy, a
lot more mental energy into that tournament than most of
the teams did. And now there's a letdown there because
of it.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Do you agree with that or were your thoughts?
Speaker 7 (23:44):
I think I agree with that. I agree that they
pushed all in for that. They wanted to make a statement,
They wanted to be the first one to win it.
It meant something to Lebron another veternist app also for
those young guys.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
To get that money.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
So if they were extremely motivated, I think they are
having a little bit of emotional letdown. But besides emotional letdown,
I mean other guys aren't stepping up for their team,
you know. I think Ad is playing but has been
playing phenomenal. Who's Lebron been playing?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Cool?
Speaker 7 (24:11):
But the Vanderbilt of the world is up and down.
Gavilo Russell's up and down. I think Austin Reeves is
probably the only other consistent players that they have on
their team. Were not in and night out. You pretty
much know what you're gonna get from them. But they're
just a little bit too inconsistent.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, seems like to start, it's not what people were hoping.
They thought the Lakers would be doing better. Let me
ask you this. You got to see Mini Williams coach
a lot obviously in Phoenix, what Eddie, they're trying to
break a twenty four game losing streak to.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Keep losing him money. No, no, no, they're losing.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
They're losing two right now to Utah that has like
four players tonight.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
But I'm just.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Trying to figure out what what do you is there
nothing you can do? Like you know what I I mean,
Like Moni's got a six year contract for a gazillion dollars.
What do you do when a team loses twenty four?
There's something that's not There's not a connection there, am
I off?
Speaker 7 (25:11):
No, you know, I don't know what you do. I've
never been a part of something like that. I've been
on you know, long winning streaks, but never been a
part of no, extremely long losing streak. So I don't
know what that environment is like. But I did hear
Minnie Williams say one thing after the game. He said,
we don't rebound, we don't guard, and we can't make shots.
(25:31):
That's a recipe for disasters, right, You're gonna lose a
bunch of game if that's the case. And he and
he was like, uh, you know, he was just he
was flustered. He said, I don't even know what to
he doesn't know what to do, and I don't like
and today's yeah, you can't run. You can't run guys
like you would run him back in the day, Like
I played on the Pat Ridley team that was pretty
bad my last year in my third year in Miami,
(25:55):
and we ran. You know, he got it out of us.
You just can't do that no more. It's just not
the way. It's not the way that the league has
made up. So I don't know what the change has
to be. Actually, to be honest with you, I don't
think he has anything to do with Minnie Williams because
we think what he did with Phoenix, I think he
has everything to do with those players there. At some point,
a player's pride has to come in and say enough
(26:16):
is enough, enough of this shit. I gotta keep I
gotta do what I gotta do to try to get
a win, and at the top with your leaders, and frankly,
who are their leaders over there? That's the question.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Uh yeah, I just I can't. This is my issue.
You can't put it all on the players. It's a
young team. We get it, MANI was supposed to come there.
I just it's too easy to just say what MONI
had a lot of players in Phoenix, and and and
he didn't win anything in Phoenix. I I just think
(26:51):
it's too easy not to give him any blame. I mean,
if you're gonna get rid of the whole roster, then
you need to fire the general manager. I guess right.
Is that so, so you were saying you would fire
a general because he didn't have any players.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Well, that's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm
saying at all. I'm saying at some point players probably
have to step in. You could as a coach, you
could put a game plan out there and say, hey,
this is what we gotta do. The players don't execute it,
then I mean they might as well bought it up
if they go out there and free freelance to do
whatever they're going to do. I just think that I've
(27:24):
seen many Williams take a Phoenix team that wasn't that
good in the bubble and they made He made them competitive,
and that next year they were extremely competitive. Granted they
did have Devin Booker over there, they did have ended
up getting Chris Paul. They had some good players to
start with. But the fact of the matter is when
they first started in that bubble. They weren't that Yeah,
(27:49):
they weren't there. They weren't that good. But then they believe.
So he can coach and he can get guys to
believe in them. I don't know if these guys believe
in him and that and that's a that's the thing
when you're when you're superstar, players don't believe in the
coach's message, and it falls on death ears to everybody.
And I don't know, I don't know who the I
don't know who the leaders of that team is. You know,
(28:09):
Kay Cunningham, talented as he is, he's been out for
a long time. Now he's back. I don't I don't
know who's who's the leader on that team.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And nobody another team, I mean San Antonio, they they won,
they beat the Lakers.
Speaker 11 (28:22):
A week or so, and now I got a problem
with the straight and then twenty of twenty one, and
I gotta be honest, I'm looking at I mean, it's
like Belichick, but I'm looking at Popovich like I look
at that team, and I'm like, man.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Y'all, y'all treat Wimby like he's you know, Zach Collins
or something. The way y'all look him off and don't
give me the rock as much as I think you
should get it, Like, what what are your.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Thoughts with them and and and Papovich.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
I think Papovitch has cash, you know, with of course
three of what they did, so he's gonna get a
pass the same way Belichick does. I think they're slowly
bringing Wemby in, and I'm not sure if that's the
right way to slowly bring him along, because I think
he's there. I've seen this flas's seen him go against
AD and get thirty points against AD. They went back
(29:14):
and forth, and if it wasn't for a travel, he
had opportunity to maybe hit a three to tie it up,
go to overtime. You never know what happens in a
game like that. But saying all that, I say this,
I say that Wemby is a hell of a talent,
but their roster is just not is not conducive to
a roster that is going to be compete. They do
have that piece Wimby. They got some little nice pieches
(29:35):
that's over there. But for the most part, don't I
don't know what you're supposed to do when you're not
that talented as a team, you might have one or
two talented players. I mean as far as well.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You making Eddie, You're making a great point.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I guess there are kind of two philosophies because I've
even said I don't know that Dolphins should run through
Winby because he's so young. But are maybe, I mean,
I guess the other philosophy is man, he's ready, give
him the rock and Pop's never really done. I mean,
I guess Kawhi after you know the Big three was gone.
But is there are there kind of those two schools
(30:11):
of thought of, hey, let's put the pressure on him
kind of like Cleveland did with Lebron and let him
carry us even though he's young, or try to bring
him along slowly.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
I think you have to do it. It can't be
like I think you have to throw him in the fire.
And he's shown that he can he can handle it.
You put a seat to the fire, he can walk
on it. He's good that he's an extremely challenged player.
So I think where it's really it's comparable comfortable to
Belichick and Papa Vish. They stuck in their own ways
(30:44):
and they say this is how we do it. I
think you have to evolve. I think you have to say,
you know what. I know my old way was like this,
But I've got somebody that's different that's going to break
that mold. He's gonna make me get out of my
comfort zone. I think you got to just go with
him and let him be the guy. You got to
play through Wimby and all that's gonna do it give
them confidence. It's not like he's lacking confidence. It's not
like he's lacking dogs, none of that. He's not gonna
(31:05):
get pumped out on the court. He's ready to play.
He's gonna get down and get dirty. But I want
to go back to the young teams, right, Okay, see
is a young team, but look how fast they turn
things around. You see, that's a real young basketball. But
I think that the leaders believe in their coach, and
their coach's message trickles down all the way through that
that locker room, and it starts when you have the
(31:27):
ear of the superstar and he's relaying the coach's message
on how to play.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
That's our many Christmas man and his family.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
Merry Christmas, got happy holidays, man, Take care and be safe.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Is it is it snowing in Phoenix, and I'm just asking.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
No, no oh no, it's like seventy seventy seventy seven degrees.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I mean, I feel you.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
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Speaker 9 (32:52):
This week's topic comes to us from Hollyweird, where Cameron
Diaz made some headlines this week appearing on a podcast,
and during the conversation, she said, quote, we should normalize
married couples sleeping in separate bedrooms. Why she just believes
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that that should be a married now she is, and
she has since tried the backtrack by saying, by the way,
I don't feel that way now because my husband is
so wonderful. I've said that before I got married. She
also said in the podcast, not only should have separate
bedrooms for comfortability purposes and that we meet in the
middle at later times. For other relations, we should have
(33:33):
separate houses altogether, so we each have our own space
and still come together at later two.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
That's the question.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Go ahead, Chris King.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
She wants a boyfriend, you don't want a husband. That's
the most ridiculous stuff I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I will say this. Can we do this? Okay? So
do you remember all the old TV shows when they
slept in twin beds?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Right? Is that how it was in real life? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
They just didn't want to show on TV. No people
slept in twin bed same bed.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
I mean, do you know for a fact, because I
know my grandparents slept in the same bed, both sets,
and they were married for fifty plus years to they died.
I mean, I don't know. I'm not saying it wasn't, Rob.
I just I do remember the shows, like you said,
like leave it to beaver All, but I think it
was they didn't want to show two people, you know,
(34:24):
man and woman in the.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Beds again because it was wicked it was, and Lucy
they slept in twin beds. Yep. Do you know. I
think I brought this up to you before the first
husband and wife on television to share a bed, Chris,
there was a.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Couple's who Lord or something like that.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
No, not that late. It was in the sixties. You ready,
Herman and Lily Munster slept in the same bed, so
they weren't even real you know what I mean, Like
that was the first couple where you saw the bed.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I was telling Rob Gus earlier when we talked about
this topic.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So like I start out when my big wife and
I I'll be holding her when we go to sleep.
Her backs to me, okay, and then and you know,
five ten minutes I turn around. I get on my
side and I start.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I laid out his sleep. When I'm talking it was
time of going to sleep. I lay you know, I stopped.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Holding her and I turned my back to her and
I sleep and she sleep, And I mean we we
don't now.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
My parents rip they slept in each other's arms.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I couldn't do that. I used to say. That was
one of my biggest things. Is my wife thought I
was a pillow or something. And I'm like, I know
this feels good to you, it's uncomfortable to me. Okay,
it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I want to sleep. My arm is dead. Do you
know what I mean? Chris, Like, you know what I'm
talking about. It's bad, but you can sleep in.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Like even like I said, I'm sleeping on my side
of the beds wife sleeping on her side of the bed.
But I don't desire us to be in a separate bed,
like I want to sleep.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
In the same bed with my wife.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
You know any married couple that does it, I'm just
like a little bit baffled. Unless you just have a
small bed that you know, you can't get space.
Speaker 9 (36:21):
I think that's the key, because on the surface this
sounds crazy to me, until I realize that the reason
why my wife and I have a king sized bed
is specifically so that when we go to sleep, we
can be comfortable, because if we're trying to sleep on
a queen or full whatever size bed.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
To your point, Rob, it's just not comfortable.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
It's not comfortable. That doesn't mean you love your wife whatever,
it's not comfortable. You don't even think of the queen
size bed.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
I mean if people who do, if people who don't sleep.
Speaker 9 (36:50):
Well, who toss and turn a lot, or they're always
like you know, now that I have a daughter, she
comes in, it sleeps horizontally or queen it's I hate it.
It sucks well kicked in the back.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
That's crazy that that'd be tough. But but I'm just saying,
like I get it. If it's a twin bed, but
a fool or queen size bed, you know you don't
have a queen. A few people that sleep.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
Chris got in a lot of.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
King but most people don't sleep that while you know
what I mean, most people would be able to you know,
you may not even be touching each other, but you
could sleep together in a twin or full But she
talking about separate houses and stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Your future wife, will she be able to use you
as a pillow?
Speaker 10 (37:34):
Rob Cameron Diaz maybe onto something. I can't it straight face,
I tried, I'll be wrong with you. So me and
my ex we are together for like seven years, right,
I'll be honest. I'm like Chris's mom and dad. I
loved falling asleep with her every night. I was comfortable.
We were both good sleepers. We didn't rock a lot,
we didn't snore. For me, it's easy, I mean when
(37:55):
I'm close to somebody. Because I think you guys can
agree with this, especially you, Chris, that's like the most
vulnerable state you could ever be in a sleeping So
to fall asleep next to somebody you truly love, I
think that's just it's kind of romantic.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'll say this to Alex say, I'll say this quickly.
We used to be like that. We used to sleep
like that.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Not that our love is dissipating, But as I got older,
I don't know, it just wasn't as comfortable, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I told the marriage we did sleep the my wife,
I don't know what she was like an incubator. I
mean she was so hot and warm It was great,
you know what I mean, when she gets in bed
and you cuddle up, and and then she got to
she got real cold, like you know, I don't know
what happened, all right, Ra,
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Speaker 2 (01:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:47):
All right, Rob. We have heard many people now praise
brock Purty.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We had Dante Whitner who calls games for them broadcasts
out there in the Bay Area. Former player for the
forty nine ers. He's talked about perty is the MVP
on this show we have had on ESPN. You've heard
Rex Ryan say it was the next Joe Mint He's
(02:14):
the first one I heard him compare him to Joe
Montana and now Joe Montana's favorite receiver. A guy that
many think Rob is not only the best pretty much
everybody thinks he's the best wide receive ever, but somebody
people even think he's the best football player period. That
(02:34):
of course being Jerry Rice and who won two Super
Bowls with Montana, And here he is rob talking about
Rock Perty.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Rock reminds me a lot of Montana. His coolness. He
doesn't get rather you need your quarterback to be that
with but he's doing the leadership, his composure launching him
when he first took over the Alatoly behind his throats
A man Nightpiro.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You know, catchable ball, you know like that? You know,
I love it? Man and his decision making. He doesn't
hold on to the ball that long.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Rap?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
He was just talking about being cool like Joe Montana.
That's the only mention he made of Joe Montana is coolness.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
That's fine a lot of I mean, I'm not saying
he's Joe Montana. I'm just saying he did say more
than that. He's talking to me.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
That's all that he talked about the quick release, he
talked about the accuracy. I mean, if you listen to
the clip he said he was MVP. No, we talked
about him being MVP. But I'm saying what he said.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
You want to hear it again because I'm just saying
he didn't just say it was cool like Joe Montanna.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
He brought up a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Right, But when you talk about the Joe Montana part
is when he talked about his coolness, right and not?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
He said, he reminds me a lot of Joe Montange.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
He said his coolness, and then he started talking about
his other qualities. So I took it like he was
saying those other qualities reminded.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Him of Joe.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I didn't take it that way.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Okay, So that's all you got to say about it?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, what do you say? What do you have to
say about We've talked about rock Party and I know
you're high on him, which is cool, and he's in
the running for the MVP. But I'm more like, uh,
who do we have on yesterday?
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
God? The GM got it? Randy Mueller. I'm in Randy
and I are in lockstep and Randy you know, the
guy who's been in the league. And he looked at
it and was with me with Lamar and and he
looked at the stuff that Lamar does. So I'm a
Lamar guy as far as MVP despite the numbers. But
go ahead, what did you think about Jerry Rich and
(04:37):
his endorsement? Is that what you got?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm not even talking about m v P.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I'm talking about him comparing Rock Party to Joe Montana.
I'm not gonna sit here and say Rock Party is
going to be Joe Montana or or close. I mean
Joe Montana. You think he's the goat, and that's fair.
He's in the discussion. I think he's second, right behind
(05:02):
Tom Brady. I think he's but everybody would have him
in their top five. So you're talking about an absolute,
you know, all time, all time great. So I'm not
gonna sit here and say Black Party.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Is going to be got.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But I do agree with Jerry and that, you know Rob.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I am big on intangibles when it comes to top quarterbacks.
I think Tom Brady, all of them. There's a certain
physical standard, if you will, that you have to meet. Uh,
if you can't meet a certain physical threshold of ability
arm strength, and were talking about quarterbacks arm strength, some
(05:45):
degree of athleticism, maybe not athletic relative to other NFL players,
but some degree of athleticism, like there's a bar you
have to hit, and if you can hit that bar,
then I think think in tangibles are very important when
we talk about excellent quarterbacks. Brady the Goat. Not the
(06:07):
strongest arm in the world. Good arm, but not the
strongest in the world. Montana not the strongest arm in
the world, But those two and many of the other
top ones had the coolness Jerry Rice was talking about,
the composure under pressure, make quick decisions, accurate with their passes,
can make all of the throws and process quickly. If
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the first option is not, the second option not the third,
they're on to the third or fourth option quicker than
most quarterbacks. I think those things are incredibly important when
we talk about quarterback and at the NFL level, and
I think that's why we see some guys that aren't
the best athletes or guys they weren't even like incredible
(06:53):
superstars in college or at the biggest programs that Alabama's,
the USC's and so on and so forth, who go
on and have sometimes be some of the greatest college
or MFL quarterbacks we've ever.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Seen because they're not the like at Alabama.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
You're throwing to the best receiver, receivers that are way
better than everybody else, and so are your linemen and
everybody else on your team, and so you don't generally
have to go past the first or second option a lot,
you know, whereas other quarterbacks may have to process longer,
may have to make more out of nothing than a
guy at a big school. Sometimes it's not a rule,
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but it's a lot of times that's the case. And
I think Party has all that. So I think that's
similar to Montana. And also Rob, you know this, Montana
was a third round pick. Montana was the fourth quarterback
taken in his draft in nineteen seventy nine. Montana didn't
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start his first two years in San Francisco. Montana was
good in college, he didn't lighten it up. He was
part time start most of his college career at Notre Dame.
And then you know, he had moments though that made
you think, oh, maybe he had big moments. And I
know numbers are different, but just Rob, this is three
(08:11):
years essentially in college, twenty five touchdowns, twenty five picks.
It's not the same as today. But that's also not
you know, gonna make anybody go crazy. And obviously he
became one of the best we've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
In the pro. So I think those things are similar.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Where I think is different, Rob, And look, I've been
one to say, well, Montana had rice and Montana had
Roger Craig, who was great even though he wasn't a
Hall of Famer. And he had John Taylor who was
great after the catch, even though he wasn't a Hall
of Famer, and all that and all that's true, but
that was when Montana won MVPs eighty nine to ninety.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Montana. Rob won two Super Bowls before Jerry Rice walked in.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I tell people the all the time when I'd give
his resume, two with Jerry and two without.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
So don't make it like the old Jerry. Right, he wasn't.
And that's where I think it's the difference. I'm not
saying Perty couldn't be good. I'm not gonna say win
super bowls without these guys. I'm not even gonna say
I don't know that he'd be good or great without
these weapons he has. I know Montana was, and Dwight
Clark was good, but he's not a Hall of Famer.
(09:19):
And some of the other players that he had were,
you know, were good, they won two Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But Rob, that's to me, that's the difference.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Party.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
We may never see Party without a stacked team, or
at least not for a while. So it's hard to
compare that, but I I those are my comparisons, and
then those are my differences in that Montana would have
been great. He was great with or without Jerry Rice
and a lot of other great skill position players. We
don't know that about perty.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, that's always been my case with Joe Montana is
like for people when when you just look at it,
his resume is ridiculous. It just is the four Super
Bowl Bowls Chris two with Jerry, two without Jerry, eleven touchdown.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Past remember Rob A lot of people highlight was the
Dwight Clark right that that's a great throw to Dwight Clark.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Uh and and I said two and Chris he had
eleven touchdowns, no picks in the Super Bowl. He won
the MVP in the Super Bowl three times. And the
other one is Chris two of those Super Bowls he
needed a touchdown to win the game, not a field
goal like he had to get a touchdown and that
that's it's different. It's not taken away from anybody else,
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but when your team needed to win two Super Bowls
where you need a touchdown to win the game and
he gets it done, I mean, his resume is cool
and he has what none of you have, the highest
quarterback waiting of anybody in the Super Bowl, right, Like
I think he he has that, Yeah, I think, yeah,
(10:56):
I think he owns that as well, Chris. So it
just speaks volumes as far as what he was able
to do. He's a one of a kind guy, and
I think that's why a lot of people look at him,
and if they're not on the Brady train, it's hard
not to think of Joe Montana because people thought of
Joe Montana, and that's what it separates him from Dan Marino.
(11:17):
Dan Marino did a lot of stuff in a league
Chris that wasn't throwing the football like that. He was
looking modern day now numbers, right, he was doing that
now back in the eighties and right. So that's what
makes him so impressive and why people overlooked that he
only got to that one super Bowl his second year
and never got back yep, because it's incredible what he's
(11:39):
able to do.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
So Yeah, and that's what I mean by intangibles. I mean,
nobody in their right mind would say Montana was more
physically gifted than Marino, but between the years.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
He had it all.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
And so yeah, I look I think rock Purdy. We'll
see what he ends up doing. Again, I'm not even
gonna sit here and say he's I've never compared him
to Montana other than this conversation. You know, I saw
Rex Ryan do it, and now we see Rights do it.
I'm not even I'm not going to do that. I'll
talk about him and there difference is now because it's
(12:18):
a topic. But I'll just say this, Rob, you don't
and I'm not saying he's gonna be this, but you
don't become that guy until you become that guy.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Like Joe Montana, Nobody thought he was gonna be Joe
Montana until he was Joe Montana.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Tom Brady, nobody thought, Kurt Warner, nobody thought, you know,
like and.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
We'll see what brock Perdy becomes. But there's guys that
come from you know nowhere, so to speak, that become
great that because of where they came from, you're going
to underrate them until they make it to the point
where you.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Just can't anymore. That's what that acknowledge it.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
But that's what I've said about brock Purty with the
whole this season and everything, that no matter what fair
or not, Chris is not fair, to be honest, They
will not like rubber stamp them until they see in
the postseason that he gets them to where they are
supposed to go. Any mister An Obviously we talked about
(13:22):
it before. If the defense gives up forty five points,
no one's gonna be blaming Rock Party. But until he
can win for them, that's the ultimate stamp. That's when
people can can no longer wonder or question. You know
what I mean, where you are and where you fit in?
And that's just that's how it's gonna be for him from.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
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On Fox, the Goat receiver Jerry Rice compares Brock Perdy
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Speaker 2 (15:24):
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Speaker 1 (15:29):
What's up Corey?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Good evening, guys, So Corey and Fresno I called you guys.
Last time this year, Thursday before Christmas, I was Corey
in Virginia. Okay, if you guys don't remember, I called
to give the shout out to our man Ty Shirt's
Tower of Trivia. Yes, and then Shawn and Sacramento followed
to call to say the exact same thing. But I
(15:52):
just want to call again to wish you guys a
happy holiday, say thanks for everything, really appreciate just a
great year out of everybody. Rob does a great job
when he fills in on the co host. Uh, it's Thursday,
so we got our self proclaimed Update anchor of the Year,
Steve the Seger on the desk, no doubt, and so.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
We appreciate it. Happy holidays, Corey.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
That is so nice.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That is really nice.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Absolutely well, we appreciate the great work you guys do,
and I hope you have a happy holiday. And also
a shout out to Dre in Massachusetts who usually calls
in right around this time.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
I'm on the way home.
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From work every day his calls, SOO say hey to
him for me and you guys have a happy holiday.
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Well, we'll thank you. He was just trying to be nice.
He loves the show and we appreciate that. Chrich and
I talk about all the time. Never take, ever, ever, ever,
for granted the people who listen to your show.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Rob said, he mentioned everybody except Rob G.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
No, he loves robb G.
Speaker 10 (16:50):
I mean he mentioned everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
You didn't mentioned him. I mean Rob G.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
Steve's not even here full time, and Steve got a
shout out.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yes, he said Steve expected but to get a little love.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Steve is the best what do he said? The best anchor?
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Right we left Steve.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
He's steady, He's not not off. The doesn't fly off
the handle. He's just as steady as it goes at
Fox Sports Radio. He's not like some loony looney tick.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Doing an update, We must not have any college.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
No, okay, can you guys hear me? No we can't,
Tom Looney, Chris No, that nobody got moved by Jerry
Rice's rock party, Joe.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Montan Looney, what you got? What's up?
Speaker 9 (17:39):
Man?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Happy holiday? Is he off?
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Now?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
He's off?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Now? All right? Rob G? I know you are moved
by Jerry Rice.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, You're moved right, Rob G?
Speaker 9 (17:51):
Absolutely, because they I'm a rock pretty guy, you know,
I I tweeted out back in October before Rock Party
was even a thing, and I thought this was going
to be his Joe Burrow season. What I meant by
that was Joe Burrow. His first year, they're like, oh,
you know, he's got some flashes. He looked pretty good,
and he towards kne ups and then when he gets
see the rest of it. But in year two he
comes out like Gangbusters, surrounded by talent similar toly to
(18:15):
Brock Party, and he gets them to the super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
They didn't win it.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
But once that season was over, when we just conceding,
you know what, Joe Burrows, that guy.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
He's one.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
He's Joe Burrow.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
Please, Ron, if you just look at the way they play.
Does Joe Burrow have a cannon for an arm?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
No?
Speaker 8 (18:31):
It is? Is he elusive in the pocket like Lamar?
Speaker 7 (18:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But see here's the difference, though, What can I give
you the difference.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
Drafted number one versus no?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Okay, God that Joe Burrow went to a bad team
that hadn't done anything in the postseason or anything. Brock
Perty is on a team that had already been to
a super Bowl. With that, I'm just saying, like that
that's the difference. Like one guy has made an immediate
impact and turned a franchise around. Would you give me that?
Speaker 8 (18:58):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But that's that's that's why I say, you know what
I mean, That's why it's hard to really give brock
Purty that because they were going They went to the
super Bowl without him, They went to three NFC Championship games, Chris,
you know what I mean, Like they've done this stuff.
It's just not to take anything away from him because
he's clearly made them better.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Right but but but but they've already done that.
Speaker 9 (19:19):
Right and and the thing Joe Burg there's a ton
of credit for the obviously because it takes a special
kind of guy emotionally and many.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Remember people told him don't go to Cincinnati.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
But it's not like when he you know, since he's
been there, the cover has been there. Like their weapons
are just as good as any team in the in
the in the league.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Receivers strictly receivers are.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
Chase Higgins, Boyd Mixing, and Zach Taylor is also from
the Shanahan coaching tree. So it's like it's not as
crazy as I think that people might sound.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
On his face. The Borough compared, and I think I was.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
I'm honestly surprised at given how much success brock perty
has had this season, that people are not coming around
to him.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
But even once you called football people, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
And I know some people think there are people in
the league doesn't want to see him succeed because they
missed on them or whatever. I don't know. I just
think that people who are closer to a look at
a lot of that stuff and say, and even I
know I heard Doug Gottlieby been saying. I'm not saying
that Doug Gottlieb's end all be all on, but he
(20:24):
even said and I thought that was even extreme that
fifteen quarterbacks could do what brock Purty's doing. Like yeah,
like no, I'm just saying, right, I think that's extreme
to say like anybody would just just put anybody in there.
He said, fifteen different quarterbacks could do exactly what brock
Party's doing given what he has around him, and that's
(20:44):
why a lot of people have discounted them.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Here's the thing, and may I don't know, but what
I will say is this, some of the hypotheticals are
kind of ridiculous because Rob you know that, you don't know,
there might be quarter backs better individually than Brock Party
that put them in that situation and they wouldn't be
as good we see it in. I mean, I know
(21:08):
basketball is obviously a completely different sport, but there are
times when certain guys are better built for certain systems,
and you know, I just think that that is something
like like to just say, you could throw any competent
quarterback into San Francisco and they would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I mean, if there if maybe if it's a quarterback
that's not maybe it would be different.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
They might be great, but it might be different.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
You know, Purty is a very on time quarterback, very
you know, so as Tula in Miami. You get a
quarterback that's not as much like that, and it might
it maybe would It would be great, but it would
look different.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You know. So I think that's something.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
But you know, everybody's throwing out hypotheticals like we don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I mean, we just throw so and so there. Yeah,
give them.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I mean, these guys as weapons and they're great, no
doubt about that, all right. It is the odd couple.
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the house.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
What up, man, gentlemen, how you guys doing? Happy holidays?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yes, sir, happy holidays. Let's start with the Lakers one
in four. I believe since they won that that end
season tournament, it seem.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I feel like they put particularly.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Lebron and probably he got his teammates to buy in
that they just put a lot more emotional energy, a
lot more mental energy into that tournament than most of
the teams did. And now there's a letdown there because
of it.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Do you agree with that or were your thoughts?
Speaker 7 (23:44):
I think I agree with that. I agree that they
pushed all in for that. They wanted to make a statement,
They wanted to be the first one to win it.
It meant something to Lebron another veternist app also for
those young guys.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
To get that money.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
So if they were extremely motivated, I think they are
having a little bit of emotional letdown. But besides emotional letdown,
I mean other guys aren't stepping up for their team,
you know. I think Ad is playing but has been
playing phenomenal. Who's Lebron been playing?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Cool?
Speaker 7 (24:11):
But the Vanderbilt of the world is up and down.
Gavilo Russell's up and down. I think Austin Reeves is
probably the only other consistent players that they have on
their team. Were not in and night out. You pretty
much know what you're gonna get from them. But they're
just a little bit too inconsistent.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, seems like to start, it's not what people were hoping.
They thought the Lakers would be doing better. Let me
ask you this. You got to see Mini Williams coach
a lot obviously in Phoenix, what Eddie, they're trying to
break a twenty four game losing streak to.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Keep losing him money. No, no, no, they're losing.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
They're losing two right now to Utah that has like
four players tonight.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
But I'm just.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Trying to figure out what what do you is there
nothing you can do? Like you know what I I mean,
Like Moni's got a six year contract for a gazillion dollars.
What do you do when a team loses twenty four?
There's something that's not There's not a connection there, am
I off?
Speaker 7 (25:11):
No, you know, I don't know what you do. I've
never been a part of something like that. I've been
on you know, long winning streaks, but never been a
part of no, extremely long losing streak. So I don't
know what that environment is like. But I did hear
Minnie Williams say one thing after the game. He said,
we don't rebound, we don't guard, and we can't make shots.
(25:31):
That's a recipe for disasters, right, You're gonna lose a
bunch of game if that's the case. And he and
he was like, uh, you know, he was just he
was flustered. He said, I don't even know what to
he doesn't know what to do, and I don't like
and today's yeah, you can't run. You can't run guys
like you would run him back in the day, Like
I played on the Pat Ridley team that was pretty
bad my last year in my third year in Miami,
(25:55):
and we ran. You know, he got it out of us.
You just can't do that no more. It's just not
the way. It's not the way that the league has
made up. So I don't know what the change has
to be. Actually, to be honest with you, I don't
think he has anything to do with Minnie Williams because
we think what he did with Phoenix, I think he
has everything to do with those players there. At some point,
a player's pride has to come in and say enough
(26:16):
is enough, enough of this shit. I gotta keep I
gotta do what I gotta do to try to get
a win, and at the top with your leaders, and frankly,
who are their leaders over there? That's the question.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Uh yeah, I just I can't. This is my issue.
You can't put it all on the players. It's a
young team. We get it, MANI was supposed to come there.
I just it's too easy to just say what MONI
had a lot of players in Phoenix, and and and
he didn't win anything in Phoenix. I I just think
(26:51):
it's too easy not to give him any blame. I mean,
if you're gonna get rid of the whole roster, then
you need to fire the general manager. I guess right.
Is that so, so you were saying you would fire
a general because he didn't have any players.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Well, that's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm
saying at all. I'm saying at some point players probably
have to step in. You could as a coach, you
could put a game plan out there and say, hey,
this is what we gotta do. The players don't execute it,
then I mean they might as well bought it up
if they go out there and free freelance to do
whatever they're going to do. I just think that I've
(27:24):
seen many Williams take a Phoenix team that wasn't that
good in the bubble and they made He made them competitive,
and that next year they were extremely competitive. Granted they
did have Devin Booker over there, they did have ended
up getting Chris Paul. They had some good players to
start with. But the fact of the matter is when
they first started in that bubble. They weren't that Yeah,
(27:49):
they weren't there. They weren't that good. But then they believe.
So he can coach and he can get guys to
believe in them. I don't know if these guys believe
in him and that and that's a that's the thing
when you're when you're superstar, players don't believe in the
coach's message, and it falls on death ears to everybody.
And I don't know, I don't know who the I
don't know who the leaders of that team is. You know,
(28:09):
Kay Cunningham, talented as he is, he's been out for
a long time. Now he's back. I don't I don't
know who's who's the leader on that team.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And nobody another team, I mean San Antonio, they they won,
they beat the Lakers.
Speaker 11 (28:22):
A week or so, and now I got a problem
with the straight and then twenty of twenty one, and
I gotta be honest, I'm looking at I mean, it's
like Belichick, but I'm looking at Popovich like I look
at that team, and I'm like, man.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Y'all, y'all treat Wimby like he's you know, Zach Collins
or something. The way y'all look him off and don't
give me the rock as much as I think you
should get it, Like, what what are your.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Thoughts with them and and and Papovich.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
I think Papovitch has cash, you know, with of course
three of what they did, so he's gonna get a
pass the same way Belichick does. I think they're slowly
bringing Wemby in, and I'm not sure if that's the
right way to slowly bring him along, because I think
he's there. I've seen this flas's seen him go against
AD and get thirty points against AD. They went back
(29:14):
and forth, and if it wasn't for a travel, he
had opportunity to maybe hit a three to tie it up,
go to overtime. You never know what happens in a
game like that. But saying all that, I say this,
I say that Wemby is a hell of a talent,
but their roster is just not is not conducive to
a roster that is going to be compete. They do
have that piece Wimby. They got some little nice pieches
(29:35):
that's over there. But for the most part, don't I
don't know what you're supposed to do when you're not
that talented as a team, you might have one or
two talented players. I mean as far as well.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You making Eddie, You're making a great point.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I guess there are kind of two philosophies because I've
even said I don't know that Dolphins should run through
Winby because he's so young. But are maybe, I mean,
I guess the other philosophy is man, he's ready, give
him the rock and Pop's never really done. I mean,
I guess Kawhi after you know the Big three was gone.
But is there are there kind of those two schools
(30:11):
of thought of, hey, let's put the pressure on him
kind of like Cleveland did with Lebron and let him
carry us even though he's young, or try to bring
him along slowly.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
I think you have to do it. It can't be
like I think you have to throw him in the fire.
And he's shown that he can he can handle it.
You put a seat to the fire, he can walk
on it. He's good that he's an extremely challenged player.
So I think where it's really it's comparable comfortable to
Belichick and Papa Vish. They stuck in their own ways
(30:44):
and they say this is how we do it. I
think you have to evolve. I think you have to say,
you know what. I know my old way was like this,
But I've got somebody that's different that's going to break
that mold. He's gonna make me get out of my
comfort zone. I think you got to just go with
him and let him be the guy. You got to
play through Wimby and all that's gonna do it give
them confidence. It's not like he's lacking confidence. It's not
like he's lacking dogs, none of that. He's not gonna
(31:05):
get pumped out on the court. He's ready to play.
He's gonna get down and get dirty. But I want
to go back to the young teams, right, Okay, see
is a young team, but look how fast they turn
things around. You see, that's a real young basketball. But
I think that the leaders believe in their coach, and
their coach's message trickles down all the way through that
that locker room, and it starts when you have the
(31:27):
ear of the superstar and he's relaying the coach's message
on how to play.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
That's our many Christmas man and his family.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
Merry Christmas, got happy holidays, man, Take care and be safe.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Is it is it snowing in Phoenix, and I'm just asking.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
No, no oh no, it's like seventy seventy seventy seven degrees.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I mean, I feel you.
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and during the conversation, she said, quote, we should normalize
married couples sleeping in separate bedrooms. Why she just believes
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that that should be a married now she is, and
she has since tried the backtrack by saying, by the way,
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and still come together at later two.
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Go ahead, Chris King.
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She wants a boyfriend, you don't want a husband. That's
the most ridiculous stuff I've ever heard.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I will say this. Can we do this? Okay? So
do you remember all the old TV shows when they
slept in twin beds?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Right? Is that how it was in real life? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
They just didn't want to show on TV. No people
slept in twin bed same bed.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
I mean, do you know for a fact, because I
know my grandparents slept in the same bed, both sets,
and they were married for fifty plus years to they died.
I mean, I don't know. I'm not saying it wasn't, Rob.
I just I do remember the shows, like you said,
like leave it to beaver All, but I think it
was they didn't want to show two people, you know,
(34:24):
man and woman in the.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Beds again because it was wicked it was, and Lucy
they slept in twin beds. Yep. Do you know. I
think I brought this up to you before the first
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there was a.
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Couple's who Lord or something like that.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
No, not that late. It was in the sixties. You ready,
Herman and Lily Munster slept in the same bed, so
they weren't even real you know what I mean, Like
that was the first couple where you saw the bed.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I was telling Rob Gus earlier when we talked about
this topic.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So like I start out when my big wife and
I I'll be holding her when we go to sleep.
Her backs to me, okay, and then and you know,
five ten minutes I turn around. I get on my
side and I start.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I laid out his sleep. When I'm talking it was
time of going to sleep. I lay you know, I stopped.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Holding her and I turned my back to her and
I sleep and she sleep, And I mean we we
don't now.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
My parents rip they slept in each other's arms.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I couldn't do that. I used to say. That was
one of my biggest things. Is my wife thought I
was a pillow or something. And I'm like, I know
this feels good to you, it's uncomfortable to me. Okay,
it's uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I want to sleep. My arm is dead. Do you
know what I mean? Chris, Like, you know what I'm
talking about. It's bad, but you can sleep in.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Like even like I said, I'm sleeping on my side
of the beds wife sleeping on her side of the bed.
But I don't desire us to be in a separate bed,
like I want to sleep.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
In the same bed with my wife.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
You know any married couple that does it, I'm just
like a little bit baffled. Unless you just have a
small bed that you know, you can't get space.
Speaker 9 (36:21):
I think that's the key, because on the surface this
sounds crazy to me, until I realize that the reason
why my wife and I have a king sized bed
is specifically so that when we go to sleep, we
can be comfortable, because if we're trying to sleep on
a queen or full whatever size bed.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
To your point, Rob, it's just not comfortable.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
It's not comfortable. That doesn't mean you love your wife whatever,
it's not comfortable. You don't even think of the queen
size bed.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
I mean if people who do, if people who don't sleep.
Speaker 9 (36:50):
Well, who toss and turn a lot, or they're always
like you know, now that I have a daughter, she
comes in, it sleeps horizontally or queen it's I hate it.
It sucks well kicked in the back.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
That's crazy that that'd be tough. But but I'm just saying,
like I get it. If it's a twin bed, but
a fool or queen size bed, you know you don't
have a queen. A few people that sleep.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
Chris got in a lot of.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
King but most people don't sleep that while you know
what I mean, most people would be able to you know,
you may not even be touching each other, but you
could sleep together in a twin or full But she
talking about separate houses and stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Your future wife, will she be able to use you
as a pillow?
Speaker 10 (37:34):
Rob Cameron Diaz maybe onto something. I can't it straight face,
I tried, I'll be wrong with you. So me and
my ex we are together for like seven years, right,
I'll be honest. I'm like Chris's mom and dad. I
loved falling asleep with her every night. I was comfortable.
We were both good sleepers. We didn't rock a lot,
we didn't snore. For me, it's easy, I mean when
(37:55):
I'm close to somebody. Because I think you guys can
agree with this, especially you, Chris, that's like the most
vulnerable state you could ever be in a sleeping So
to fall asleep next to somebody you truly love, I
think that's just it's kind of romantic.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'll say this to Alex say, I'll say this quickly.
We used to be like that. We used to sleep
like that.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Not that our love is dissipating, But as I got older,
I don't know, it just wasn't as comfortable, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I told the marriage we did sleep the my wife,
I don't know what she was like an incubator. I
mean she was so hot and warm It was great,
you know what I mean, when she gets in bed
and you cuddle up, and and then she got to
she got real cold, like you know, I don't know
what happened, all right, Ra,
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