December 25, 2023 • 40 mins
Rob Parker and Alan Lee talk about Pat Mahomes and why he should shoulder some blame. Plus, Ron and Alan talk the Cowboys sliding down as the season ends and claim that the Lions need a playoff win for their season to be successful.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple with
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Always always man, what up?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
What up?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
It is The Odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
On a Magic City Merry Christmas Monday. You see the
hoodie I'm wearing Alan right there? Magic Nice Nice. The
people at Magic City send it to me. And yes,
it is a beautiful Christmas Monday. I mean, you know what,
(01:02):
I had a great day earlier. It is Rob Parker
along with Alan Lee in for Chris Broussard and uh
Alex and I.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
We work at almost every Christmas.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I've been at Fox Sports Radio for about seven or
eight years.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I don't remember never not being here.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I'm just upset. Robbie used to be the trio, you
me and Steve and now it's just the duo.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I know, well, We're gonna hold it together for the
eyd couple. As I said, Allan Lee filling in for
Chris Alex of course is our engineer. Patrick is in
for Rob g he's our producer today. And Kevin Wired
is at the anchor desk. He'll keep us updated throughout
the program. All we got a full show for you.
(01:46):
So I know you're with the family. You might be
in the car driving between place to place.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
You know what interesting about being in the car. I
was thinking that La, least on Christmas Day, traffic is
gonna be yes through a traffic Yeah, I'm parts of
the four really live. I was like, are you kidding me?
I'm a shock.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I think I got here in nine minutes. I mean,
I mean it was just straight. Now.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
This is where LA should be all the time, all exactly.
Oh it should be, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And you've heard Allan Lee fill in numerous times here
a legendary anchor, yeah stop it news anchor in Detroit
and of course started his background and as a sportscaster
and played minor league baseball and knows all sports and
loves all this stuff. Man, it's just great. Great to
have you a long Darren Smith, who covers the Kansas
(02:35):
City Chiefs. He's going to join us in the bottom
of the hour. We're gonna talk some football, We're gonna
talk some NBA, some baseball. We got a lot of
stuff to talk about, including the Lions in the final hour.
And we both work a long time. How long man,
how many years you work in Detroit? I worked twenty
years in Detroit. I worked at the opposing station, WDIV
(02:57):
Local four, and Alan worked at Fox two in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So they'll be happy to hear from us, definitely.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
So we'll see. I don't think there's any confetti left
in the city. I just want you to know. The
way they were throwing stuff around. I thought they won
the Super Bowl. But let me talk about let's talk
about let's start here allan today, first game of the day,
and we know we got NBA games. The Lakers and
Celtics are playing right now as we speak downtown, LA,
(03:25):
and the Celtics are leading in that game. But the
game earlier, which I thought, okay, the Raiders are visiting
Kansas City on Christmas Day, Christmas Morning, whatever you want
to call it. Just put the W down for Kansas City.
Bunk it down right, It's done. It's a W the Raiders.
Come on, they got the quarterback O'Connor.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
O'Connell, O'Connor, O'Connell.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I mean, let's be honest, like you're not expecting anything
from him, and guess what he delivered with sixty two
yards today. Not only did you deliver that he didn't
complete a pass in the final three quarters in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Is that a record? Think about that.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That seems impossible unless this is the era where they
didn't throw the ball before they had to forward pass.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
That seems like the wishbone in college. I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
In this NFL where everybody throws on almost every down
and they won.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
But they won.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Because the Kansas City Chiefs aren't the same team.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I know.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
They got nine wins and everybody thinks, oh, you can't
count them out. Oh I wouldn't count them out. Patrick
Mahomes and all.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
That I get.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I get his resume, and his resume is phenomenal, But
can we talk about the here and now? And I'm
tired of talking about how bad the wide receivers are.
I'm tired of talking about the drops everybody goes to
every like if we do this for every other quarterback
Allen Oh, well he dropped that ball. Well, if they
want a holding on that play, well, if the guy
(05:06):
didn't line up all side, dude, stop with that.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Whatever happened to you? You know you're the superstar.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Make them better, make them better, and he didn't make
them better. Today, the reason that the Kansas City Chiefs
lost to the Las Vegas Raiders was because Patrick Mahomes
he had a fumble six, had a pick six back
to back.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yep, Alan, is that not ball game? Hey, that's ball game.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I don't want to hear about no drop passes today,
two big turnovers.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Kelsey's out to launch.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Okay, Kelsey must be so caught up with the with
the Taylor Swift all out. I'm just like, what but
but he hasn't played well this year this year, But
I'm bothered with everybody has a girlfriend and a wife.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Okay, okay, everybody. Everybody doesn't have that exposure.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
That's that, okay, but the whole focus else has the focus?
It was like, what was her name that Tony Romo
was dating? Was it Jessica Simpson? What was her name?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I think he might be right about that. Was it
alex Jessica Simpson? Who is Tony Romo? Dating.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I think it was I'll scheck. I believe Jessica Simpson.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Jessica Simpson, you remember they made a big deal about
her when he was playing, and because she's high profile,
So I get it.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Everybody has a girlfriend. What's your point there is there
are some guys and players in the league who are
dealing with stuff that is so beyond that. Your kids
might have to be sick, your wife might be your family,
and you got to play through You gotta play through it.
There's all kinds of other stuff. You think people have
perfect lives.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I don't care if you're a football player, but my
point is, can we just acknowledge that Patrick Mahomes isn't
playing well this year, and I get all the other
issues with the team. I think they've done him a disservice.
They asked him to take a friend team for deal. Hey,
(07:01):
oh yeah, we'll keep everybody together, do what Tom Brady did,
and we'll be able to keep this together and win
five six championship.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I heard all that exactly. Then he came back. They
restructured the deal game all the money Now there's no
money for anybody. I mean like that.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
This is where you are so so when you watch him,
and we talked about let's talk about today the turnover.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, that's on Patrick Mahomes today. Right, So in the
off season to your point, and I know that a
number of past good quarterbacks have done this where they
have invited their wide receiver corps to come live with
them or stay with them where they're at in the
summertime or over, you know, to get to know each
other better. You know, let's go to the local high
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school field and let's run on let's run routes, Let's
get to know each other, let's get timing down. At
some point, if you know this is what you have
to deal with, you have to get on board with that.
You either have to make them better or you have
to go to your offensive coordinator head, go, we gotta
change something.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Didn't Aaron Rodgers get get trashed last year for the
same exact thing exactly. He got trashed. Oh he's a
prima donna. All these young quarterbacks. He didn't connect with them,
he didn't throw the ball in the off that's all
we heard. And then they struggle right last year and
the Packers didn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
It's it's something that when you got young guys coming
into you into a system, and that we and we'll
talk about this probably a little bit later, when Eric
the Enemy is no longer there to help that transition
or to help those guys get ready. Who's helping these
guys get ready? Who who's who's calling?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And what were they saying with the with the commanders
that Eric b Enemy was too tough? You remember that,
and maybe why? And look how sloppy the chief saw.
Look at them lining up off sides, look at the penalties,
look at all the sloppiness, And there's Andy Reid?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Is he there? And that leads to the frustration that
you saw a couple of weeks ago mahomes with that
offside call where he acted uncharacteristically and it wasn't it
was an obvious off side.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Then it wasn't even like like like a maybe it
was or maybe it was, and it was an obvious
off side and he made he threw a fit.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Right, So what you're starting to be upset with is
not necessarily that call. You're starting to be upset with
internal issues that, hey, guys aren't doing what they're supposed
to be doing, and why is that? That's what you're
really upset with but you know, but you're going to
try to make it it's the official situation, but it's
you're dealing with a whole lot more things internally.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And uh, you know, after the game today, go take
a look mahomes glassy eyes, almost in tears, Alan, Like
this is getting Can you imagine playing the game where
the other team's quarterback for real doesn't complete a pass
in the second half and you lose?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Oh my, yeah, it's not even possible, is it. It
seems hard to believe, hard to believe. But I'm happy
for aiding the counter counter because he's a produced ball
of maker. That's all you care about. It is it is.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It is mind boggling on the mistakes, all the other
stuff that's going on. And I've said it, I've been
I've been saying it all. I got crushed a month
ago and I said, he's not the best Patrick's not
the best player in the NFL right now.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I'm not talking about.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Career achievement and all that he's done. Nobody trying to
take that away from him. I'm just talking about his
play right now. And then the other one is Alan,
I said he might have plateaued you know, like I know.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's hard to believe. I don't know if he can.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Ever, you think he can play as good as he
did the first year he started, we had fifty two touchdowns,
won the MVP and the Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
If you surround him with the right personnel, the people
that can take a lot of that pressure off of
him and make plays on his mistakes. Yes, And that's
the thing about the NFL and any sports to some extent,
Achieving greatness and keeping it is hard to do, especially
during the course of a season. You got, like you said,
you have so many ups and downs. Look at Josh Allen,
(11:00):
you know the situation the Bills were, and everybody thought
he was done and the Bills looked horrible. Then what
they changed the offensive coordinator and they start putting in
plays for Cook and it's like, Okay, where's this guy
been all season? How come they haven't been using this
guy all season long. Until you get the right people
that understand your organization and what you're trying to do
as a team, sometimes you're gonna fail. And right now
(11:23):
the Kansas City Chiefs have been rested on their laurels
of we're just the Kansas City Chiefs. We got Kelsey,
we got the best quarterback in the game. Well, we're
gonna win every game. We're gonna we're gonna just destroy people.
That's not the case when things when you don't have
the right personnel or the people that are there to
make it a better team for.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
You, Right it is, there's issues and we will talk
about the enemy later on. But I think people thought
that he was just standing around, right, And I don't
know if we could say that anymore, But you got
to take a look and look at where the Chiefs ought.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
They had a season low.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Fourteen points, the fifth lowest in the Patrick Mahomes era
with Canada. Like, fourteen points is nothing. And can you
imagine being the defense saying we didn't allow completion for
three quarters and we lost like.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
That is an amazing stat in the NFL, that's just nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's just impossible to even believe. When I saw that stat,
I couldn't believe.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
It because you're just winning off a turnovers and running
the ball.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And okay, here we go eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
We know some of you guys are out there in
the car.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Here's your opportunity to jump in and join us on
this Christmas evening Rob Parker and Allen Lee eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. And no one's saying it's
all Patrick mahomes fault, but he has to get some blame,
especially today. Can you give Patrick Mahomes the slice of
the blame pie finally? Stop talking about the wide receivers,
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stop talking about the drops, stop talking.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
About the off sides and the penalties.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
He had back to back, gave a back to back
defensive touchdowns, a fumble six and a pig six. Is
the time to start blaming Patrick Mahomes eight seven seven
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the air, and another turnover by brock Purty, another interception
by that Ravens defense.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
It's a five to three school. I don't know who's
pitching in this game.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
But but five to three San Franciscos leading. But you
gotta get the Raven's defense is something. Come on, Allan
Lee Heyna.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I want to ask you, since we live out here
on the West Coast, now do you miss snow and
cold for Christmas? Not at all? I can see it
on video. I'm good watch Christmas all that we'd lived it.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, only the corduroy pants, the boots, the big jackets.
I'm good man. I lived in Detroit for twenty years
and you lived there eighteen lived there twenty years.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
You used to have to have the snow service come
pave the driveway, and it's I can go to work
early in the morning to do the morning you were
doing the morning news. What time did you get to
the station? Four before a little bit after four? Sometimes unbelievable?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Man, man oh man? All right, Alan, and speaking of
so this game is under right here. It's pretty amazing
where they are and the Ravens with the turnovers. They
brought prety two interceptions. This is going to be interesting.
This is a big game, just to see where they are.
Because remember the forty nine.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Ers or six and a half point favors in this game,
right this game being so low right now, if it
keeps this way, you know, the defense is only going
to intensify rather than this still being the shootout. I mean,
you go, somebody, if you get behind late, somebody's going
to have to try to start making that up.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And I told you before we came, before this game
started that the Ravens defense, like thirteen of the previous
fourteen games, have allowed ten or fewer points in the
first half and thirteen of their last fourteen games.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
That's incredible. Can't take you all off the ball? That's bad.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
All right, let's get to the Detroit Lions, a team
that we know really well. They finally won the NRG
North for the first time since nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
They were losing their minds.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Thirty they are celebrating. There there's no more confetti left
in the city of Detroit.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Did you see social media yesterday where they were all
the fans were.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
All they're all worked up and all excited and it
should be. And Allen, I don't want to be a
Debbie downer, yes, but I'm going to be.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
A yes, yes you do. All right, come on, let
it out, and I'm going to be a Debbie downer.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And I'm going to tell you that this season will
not nt be a success unless they win a playoff game.
Stop it, Alan, It's not the first dude. The idea
that it's been thirty years since they wanted the division
is dubious and tells you how bad the organizations like.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
It's ridiculous. Like even the.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Bears, where I've been that good, won a DIVISIONE right,
like within the last thirty years. Thirty years is a
ridiculous stat. I get Aaron Rodgers was there. I get
Brett Favor was there. I get all that, But that
doesn't mean one year you can't. And you know this,
Jim Colwell won up in his years there three times
they one year they won eleven games, they won nine.
(18:20):
A couple times they made the playoffs two of its
four times. It ain't like they have made the playoffs
in thirty years. But the only difference and the only
way I'm going to believe that the Lions have really
turned things around and are headed in a different direction.
And I'm gonna give Dan Campbell full credit.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yes he's changing. It's when they do.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Something that they haven't done, and that's when a playoff game.
They have not won a playoff game since nineteen ninety one,
and they've only won one playoff game nineteen ninety one,
since nineteen fifty seven. One, Allen, that's not even possible.
I remember watching when they won the playoff game. I
(19:04):
remember watching the game and I'll never forget. Go google it,
go put it. Go check out YouTube. John Madden after
they beat the Cowboys, and this is with Emmett Smith
and Michael Irvin and and uh Troy Aikman. John John
(19:25):
Madden says, you're watching the two teams of the nineties,
the Cowboys and the Lions. He said, the Lions and
the Cowboys. And you're gonna be hearing more from these
two teams. The Cowboys went on went in after that
to be in a dynasty, winning three out.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Of four Super Bowl. The Lions never made it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Think about that, and I'm gonna get people should be
excited because they want a division and and it's and
look they wanted.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I'm not I'm not gonna take it away from you. Caw.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The Packers went away from a legendary quarterback to a
rookie first year starter. Bears are terrible. Yeah, and the
Vikings lost their starting core. That's how they want to do.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
You know, when we were on in the summer, we
had this discussion about who would win this division and
we all picked the Lions. We all said, because the
division is not very strong, it was going to be
the Lions. Now, obviously, Minnesota had, you know, the quarterback hurt.
Her cousins got hurt. They were they were playing well.
He was having a great season.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
He was, and you don't know if he would have
stayed healthy what would have happened exactly.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
But you know what, when you have been deprived for
so long, Lions fans are so used to getting their
heart broke every every season. There's always that one game
where you know they should have won or they were
up by this, and next thing, you know, it all collapse.
We've seen them all. Yeah, So you know, I'm sort
of like, let the people enjoy this right now. It's
(20:53):
a step in the right direction. It's a youth and
I hear's the thing you said, it's only going to
be a successful season if they want to play. I
say it's already successful. But I think even if they
go to the playoffs and they make it interesting, they're competitive,
and they come up short, I still think it's an okay.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
See, I don't believe that. I think that at some
point to really turn the culture, it's about winning. And
once you do that, then we can't talk about nineteen
ninety one. We can't talk about one playoff wins in
nineteen fifty seven. You don't worry about that. You've turned
the page on it. Officially. If you lose, say they
get drilled, you can't tell me you're gonna walk away.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Stand the Lions had a successful season.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
If the Rams or the Cowboys or somebody come in
and they lose thirty four.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
To seven, you won't now so you won't be saying that.
That's what I said. I said, if it's a close game,
if they play somebody tough and close and you lose,
you know, you lose on the final drive of a game,
on a real tight game. I still think it's a
successful season in that sense because you have built upon
this and you know what you need to do for
next Like there's no question right now if you look
(22:01):
at the Lions right now, you go next season, do
on the way they draft, but they better show up
that defensive backfield. You know, you've the Jamior Gibbs looks
like the real deal, especially moving forward because he's gonna
get more usage. So yeah, I just think, you know,
you gotta give him some credit here for doing what
they had to do.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Give the Ravens credit. They go off for a fourth
and goal and they get the one yard touchdown run
by Edwards and they were up nine to five, and
they got to get kicked the extra point. But that's
so far, so far, so good on the road.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
So you're still just not believing in the Lions. They
have to win a playoff team me to.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Me in order to just change things for me to
really believe that there's changed, because because Alan, you notice,
when I worked as a columnist at the Detroit Free
Press and the Detroit News, I covered the Lions every
road game for like twenty you know, I was at
every game.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I went to saw the playoff games, you know, like
it's not like they never made the playoffs and they
didn't have a good team, right, So so to me
to fish officially make that next move. Because if you
remember when they when Bob Quinn came in as general
manager and and they fired their who.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I just say, the other coach from the Colts. Oh,
I'm me too.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
But but when they when they when they fired him,
they said Jim carlwell, I'm sorry. When they fired Jim Carwell,
remember they said nine to seven and going to the
playoff ain't good enough. You remember that nine to seven
and going to the playoff ain't good enough. And that's
what I'm saying. You gotta hold yourself. You can't just
be throwing up confetti. Hey, we want a division, okay,
(23:41):
Now now we lose the playoff game, a home playoff game.
You just want a division. Might win twelve games, you
don't expect to win that game. You gotta be disappointed
and gotta feel like you didn't get to your goal
this year because you said it. Most people gave them
the division because they looked at the division coming in
it was weak and was like, oh no, Aaron Rodgers,
(24:03):
the Bears are no good, okay. So they just got
to beat the Vikings, okay, and the Vikings gave up
that start running back, you remember, and they were the
changes there.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
But you know why, I think there's finally hope. For years,
everybody was telling the Ford Family like, like the fans
are yelling at Pistons games. Now sell the team, sell
the team.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
The Ford family finally, twenty twenty six years, twenty six
losses in a row.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Has finally got it right. The Ford Family finally seems
to have gotten the formula right. The people took over
and made the right decisions, made the right choices, and
you're in the right situation. But yeah, the Pistons, we
don't want to talk about it. No, we're not going
to get this too ugly. But I'm just saying, where
are you on the Lions. You know some people are
in on the Lions. They're excited their defense. You talked
(24:49):
about it. I don't think the defense is good enough
to beat some of the better teams.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And we saw it. They lost, should have lost to
the Bears. Remember the Bears gave them a gift.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
The Bears Game of Toughness. That was both games this
season they.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Did, and then they also lost to Green Bay at
home on Thanksgiving. Seattle came into that building after they
beat the Chiefs and the Opener scored thirty one in
their building. On their defense against some better teams, we
have to see that defense play because it ain't just
gonna be offensive. It's gotta be defense and they gotta
make some plays. Where are you on the Lions. What
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would be success in Detroit? We want to hear from you.
The three one three as well? Anybody can call in
eighty seven to seven ninety nine on Fox. Is just
winning the division good enough and they've already succeeded and
they can get lose and it doesn't matter, or do
they need to win a playoff game? Do they honestly
need to win? I think they need to win a
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playoff game. Allen says, they play a competitive game and lose.
He's good with it. There's a success. We want to
hear from you. It is the odd couple. On Christmas Night,
Rob Parker and Allen Lee in for Chris Bussard eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine
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Speaker 4 (26:03):
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Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yes, and I enjoy it too.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
My goodness, gracious, Merry Christmas and happy Holidays to everybody,
to my family, to the Parker family in New York,
Merry Christmas to everybody. I don't get to see the
youngins anymore. They're all doing their own thing, you know
what I mean. I got three nieces and a nephew
there they look up to the big al No, so
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they were very You know what I loved is in
Christmas and you know this with your family who I know,
but just the response you get out of I got
a video from my.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Nephew. Albany has a son.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Tristan has two sons, and Tristan is you know, old
enough to enjoy the whole Christmas experience. He's like four
years old and they sent me a video of him
opening the present.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I said, just the jay in his face. Oh man,
it's awesome. It's awesome. But you know, for anybody who
has kids and you and you just went through that
whole experience, there is no greater joy right than being
you know, the kids storming in your room, like at
six am, waking you up after the night before. You know,
you've been helping Sanna exactly. Santa's cookies are all right,
and the milk and everything.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And then that's the other thing too, is like you know,
like some of the kids have come and my friends
have told you know, they tell me, and and like
there is one of my buddies told me. Son came
into the room, you know, tapped him and said, I
think Santa was here.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You know what I mean, right, you know, like get
out of bed, Get out of bed, let's go. I
think Santa was here. Just go downstairs. Let's go. Let's go,
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
And they don't go down without asking, you know, do
not go downstairs, not touch anything, you know exactly.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
And they got to come in and then it's a
Christmas morning and they always check used to check to
see this, made sure that Santa ate the cookies cook
he's right. Did he drink the milk? Oh, drink the milk?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
All that?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah? All that?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Man, you know, no wonder he's put on some pals
cookies in the milk.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I mean, my goodness, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Our number two of the odd couple on this Magic
City Christmas Monday night. You know, we got the magic,
I mean the heat and sixers are about to tip off.
We got another football game coming up. The forty nine
Ers are hosting the Ravens. Not in San Francisco, in
the place three hours from there, but the close to it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeah, if you were playing pro sports, would you want
to play on Christmas Day now? But you're working here?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I would that translate for you to have to play
a game.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I mean, I think it's oversaturated now. At one point,
it was really an honor because everybody was home. Because
you know, us working in Detroit for a long time,
we do the Thanksgiving Day. I worked every Thanksgiving and
then it was a part of the fabric of the city. Right,
People go to Thanksgiving Day game and then they had
dinner afterwards. It's like just a part of the thing
that went on. But Christmas is tough, and it's good
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to be here, all right, So let's do this. The
Dallas Cowboys. So they lose to Miami on a latefield goal, right,
I mean had a chance. They scored a late touchdown,
but then couldn't the defense couldn't hold in. Miami Finally
get to win against the team over five hundred. It's
huge for Miami. The game was there, but the Cowboys
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lost again, they did be one team over five hundred, right,
the Eagles, I believe this year. So where are you
on the Cowboys as we go forward? Because they've won
twelve games over the years, like, this is not them
winning twelve. It looks like they're not gonna win a
division now, right, So they're not gonna gonna be like
a fifth or sixth seed, right, not a one seed
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like the Eagles. Of course, winning today that helps them
in that situation, But where are you on the Cowboys
in another.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
The game where they couldn't beat Like I think a
lot of teams, squad, I think a lot of teams
are like in the situation right now, just like the
Eagles today where they almost lost that game to the
to the lowly Giants, almost lost that game.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
As this season has gone on, the greatest thing I
think you want to really do is clinch early if
you can't, because it looks like a lot of teams
are kind of tired. Looks like a lot of teams
are physically and possibly mentally worn out at this time.
They're making mistakes, they're doing things. Players are doing some
uncharacteristic things, and the Cowboys have not looked like the
same old Cowboys team where Dak was just killing it
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earlier in the season. He was like in an MVP discussion,
he was playing so well, you know, he was.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Just like the boy that happened the last two games
after they lost that game in Buffalo, and then they
go to Miami with a chance to get righted right,
Miami has had ten wins, hadn't beaten a good team,
that would have been a good win for Dallas coming
off that loss to the Bill, Right.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I think you get to this point in the season
and there are teams that have so so much, not
only tape on you, but have analyzed you so much
and know what you do well and know what you
do wrong. Because I think today and they were talking
about how Miami was playing the Cowboys and how the
defensively sort of like drop guys back now to sort
of take away things from Dak and make it a
little bit tougher for him and I all season long
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because he's on one of my fantasy teams, I kept questioning,
wait a minute, you got rid of Ezekiel Elliott because
Tony Poler was supposed to be the.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Main Well, he didn't have the year that that people expected,
but he was rightfully Dak was.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I mean, uh Zeke was at the end with the
Cowboy exactly right. But Pollard hasn't lived up to it,
I'll give you yeah. And it's almost to the point now.
It seems like in their offense, they're like he is
an afterthought. You know. They don't go to him as
much as you would even think to try to get
him going, which is interesting to me. And I think
that that that they went away with Matt once Dak
started to really play out of his mind and throwing
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touchdowns all over the field for a while.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
But that was the biggest issue is that the Cowboys
win games. They bludgeon bad teams, bludge You talked about
the month that Dak had and everybody you had him
in the MVP conversation.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
And then he had a stinker in Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
But can they where are they? I picked them originally
to play the Ravens in the Super Bowl. I picked
the Cowboys when I looked at the NFC and I
look at some of the stuff that they had, I
looked at their schedule, I looked at they got a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I look at you know some of the stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
They don't have to be spectacularly the spectacular quarterback to
win right, limiture mistakes, get the ball to people, you
need to on third down, and it's not rocket science.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You don't have to be like the all time greatest
to win a Super Bowl. I think early in the season,
I think the biggest takeaway was in the NFC was
you had basically two teams that everybody thought was going
to be there, Philadelphia and the forty nine Ers. Forty
Niners still looked like the cream of the crop of
the NFC. The question is, now, though, you know who
kind of is sneaking up on people Tampa.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Bay and you know what we're get. We're gonna give
some Baker Mayfield some credit.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
We have to.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
They've won four games in a row. He's played well,
played well, he's played well. I mean that went in
Green Bay, which I believing a perfect passer rate.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah, they've got they've gotten the most out. It was
that Rashid White, the running back who for years has
just sort of been a so so player in that organization.
He is starting to just come on. So something is
going on down there where they have discovered a system
that works now for Mayfield, but for him.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
But what what where are you on the Cowboys as
far as if they don't wind up getting this done,
if they have another postseason blowout. You know when I
mean blowout, I mean, is this is this on Mike McCarthy.
Is this a dak statement? Because he was playing well?
He was in the m VP conversation like if this
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falls apart and they lose and their their playoffs, they're
gonna be the fifth or succeeed right and they lose?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
What who do you put the blame on?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
There?
Speaker 4 (33:59):
They were? I have to put this blame on the
head coach because, as I said, teams are starting to
play back a little bit differently on the defensive backfield,
especially in trying to reduce what he had been doing
throwing the ball CD lamb and throwing the ball to
cook all over the place. But now so if teams
are starting to take that away from you, you have
to adjust, You have to you have to sort of
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do things different, which is.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
So much about adjustment we talk about all the time.
And not to get off off course, but Alie de
la Cruz with the Reds. Remember he came in Gangsters
and I was on MLB Network and I'm just bringing
this up because I tried to tell people he was
killing it. Remember the next Big Star put him on
the All Star team. You know, he finished with a
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two thirty five batting average and struck out a ton,
you know what, because they adjusted to him and he
wasn't able to adjust back.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
James Outman of the Dodgers. Remember he started off and
he was just looking like wow, and then team's kind
of like, okay, okay, we know you get the fastball,
now hit this right, and and he made some adjustments,
but it he went into that funk where like, okay,
I look like a rookie.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
And this is what I'm saying, like in sports, And
that's why you're saying Mike McCarthy hasn't made the necessary
adjustments because the offense have been better without Colum Kellum Moore.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Would you say that, yes, yes, And you know, and
here's a guy who came from Green Bay, so you
know he's he's coached great quarterbacks. But and you would
think that mccarvey has probably seen every kind of defense
you can imagine to try to stop your A list quarterback.
So I think that some of that situation where the
adjustments have to come from him, he has to, I think,
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do a better look at the game film will get
they're taken this away from Dak now and we're not
as successful. We've got to figure out something else in
order to get us down the field.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
It's gonna be interesting because I think a lot of
people at some point, don't you think, how many years
can you keep going where you're not gonna make it
to the NFC Championship game?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
And who would you?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I don't know right now. I think the Lions would
play who Right now they play the Rams, But what
if it was the Cowboys? Who would you pick in
that game in Detroit?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Well, the interesting thing about Detroit, though, Detroit's defensive backfield
is suspect. I agree with that. That's the scary part,
you know, So Dak might be Dak again mid season,
Dak against against that Lions secondary. That's what you would
have to really worry about him, his ability to throw
that ball all over the field against that secondary. You know,
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Lions fans are chomping at the bid of the possibility
of having to see Matt Stafford again.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
How painful would that be if he were to come
and then rain on their parade and still continue them
not having the playoff?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, and you know, I'm telling you the Rams offensively now,
they're flawed.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
But and then I'm not They won five out of
six or whatever it is all teams under five hundred,
but that's who are doing the schedule. I'm not knocking
them a chance to beat the Ravens. And they didn't
win that game. That showed me something. Remember they lost
an overtime that they should have won that game, but
they didn't win that game. So I don't know where
they are because they're flawed and a better team could
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probably beat them.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
A better team, right, But now you think about those
Rams wide receivers having to play against the Lions though,
cup Pooka, that's a tough that's a tough defensive assignment.
And if you know how tough Stafford is, and people
I don't think sometimes forget just how mentally and physically tough,
especially physically Stafford takes a beating out there and just
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keeps going, right. You know he's gonna be you know,
at the end of his playing career. I just hope
they just give him a sofa and let it lay
around because he takes a physical beating.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, no, he's been in there. And remember that Detroit.
He got beat up a lot. I heard early on
in his career.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
But the question really for the Cowboys is do they
have enough to beat? Can they beat the Eagles? At
this point in time in the season, Eagles are starting
to regress a little bit as well.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, the Eagles on the same team. And I think
we talked about this Allen before the show. Everybody thinks
it's the same team that went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
They lost both coordinated, they lost a ton of players
on defense. It's not the same team. And they won
early when they were winning all those games, a lot
of close games against you know, and they were being
good teams. And then they hit that patch and everybody's
like wow. I mean they went through like a gauntlet
of teams four games in a row and they beat
them all.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Like like, now, if you went ahead to the head,
Do I think the Cowboys can be the forty nine ers. No,
I don't think they can be the forty nine ers.
And I think that, like I said, like we said,
I think a scary team that you don't want to
play in the playoffs? Is Tampa Bay? I mean they
could sneak up on you. You know, Tampa Bay. Here's
what Tampa Bay is one of those teams. You don't
see him on TV very much, you know, and especially
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in this market. You know you so people are like
Tampa Bay one, but you haven't seen them. But you
start looking at at some of the highlights or some
of the stats and you go like, man, how is
Baker Baker Mayfield's having? It's kind of a season. What's
going A lot of.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
People buried him, and boy, what a comeback? I mean,
and maybe this is where he needs to be out
of the lime left. But he did win a playoff
game for ye for the Browns. People forget that first
playoff winning twenty something odd years and people act like
nothing happen in Cleveland. So, but we're talking about the Cowboys.
You want to hear about you and where you are
on the Cowboys? Are you still in or you're still out?
(39:15):
On the Cowboys? They lose to the Bills and then
they go on the road again and lose to Miami,
which hadn't beat a team over five hundred all year.
It was a close game. They lost on the field
goal at the end, but you have you lost faith
as far as them moving forward going to the playoffs.
Can they beat a good team on the road in
the postseason because they're not winning the division?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
So where are you on the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven,
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Give me your Cowboys meter? Are you still feeling them?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
You still feel good about Dak and the Boys and
Jerry Jones?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Or are you out on them? That and much more?
You are coming up first.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
But it is the odd couple on a Magic City
Christmas Monday Night.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
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It is The Odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
On a Magic City Merry Christmas Monday. You see the
hoodie I'm wearing Alan right there? Magic Nice Nice. The
people at Magic City send it to me. And yes,
it is a beautiful Christmas Monday. I mean, you know what,
(01:02):
I had a great day earlier. It is Rob Parker
along with Alan Lee in for Chris Broussard and uh
Alex and I.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
We work at almost every Christmas.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I've been at Fox Sports Radio for about seven or
eight years.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I don't remember never not being here.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I'm just upset. Robbie used to be the trio, you
me and Steve and now it's just the duo.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I know, well, We're gonna hold it together for the
eyd couple. As I said, Allan Lee filling in for
Chris Alex of course is our engineer. Patrick is in
for Rob g he's our producer today. And Kevin Wired
is at the anchor desk. He'll keep us updated throughout
the program. All we got a full show for you.
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So I know you're with the family. You might be
in the car driving between place to place.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
You know what interesting about being in the car. I
was thinking that La, least on Christmas Day, traffic is
gonna be yes through a traffic Yeah, I'm parts of
the four really live. I was like, are you kidding me?
I'm a shock.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I think I got here in nine minutes. I mean,
I mean it was just straight. Now.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
This is where LA should be all the time, all exactly.
Oh it should be, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And you've heard Allan Lee fill in numerous times here
a legendary anchor, yeah stop it news anchor in Detroit
and of course started his background and as a sportscaster
and played minor league baseball and knows all sports and
loves all this stuff. Man, it's just great. Great to
have you a long Darren Smith, who covers the Kansas
(02:35):
City Chiefs. He's going to join us in the bottom
of the hour. We're gonna talk some football, We're gonna
talk some NBA, some baseball. We got a lot of
stuff to talk about, including the Lions in the final hour.
And we both work a long time. How long man,
how many years you work in Detroit? I worked twenty
years in Detroit. I worked at the opposing station, WDIV
(02:57):
Local four, and Alan worked at Fox two in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So they'll be happy to hear from us, definitely.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
So we'll see. I don't think there's any confetti left
in the city. I just want you to know. The
way they were throwing stuff around. I thought they won
the Super Bowl. But let me talk about let's talk
about let's start here allan today, first game of the day,
and we know we got NBA games. The Lakers and
Celtics are playing right now as we speak downtown, LA,
(03:25):
and the Celtics are leading in that game. But the
game earlier, which I thought, okay, the Raiders are visiting
Kansas City on Christmas Day, Christmas Morning, whatever you want
to call it. Just put the W down for Kansas City.
Bunk it down right, It's done. It's a W the Raiders.
Come on, they got the quarterback O'Connor.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
O'Connell, O'Connor, O'Connell.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I mean, let's be honest, like you're not expecting anything
from him, and guess what he delivered with sixty two
yards today. Not only did you deliver that he didn't
complete a pass in the final three quarters in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Is that a record? Think about that.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That seems impossible unless this is the era where they
didn't throw the ball before they had to forward pass.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
That seems like the wishbone in college. I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
In this NFL where everybody throws on almost every down
and they won.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
But they won.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Because the Kansas City Chiefs aren't the same team.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I know.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
They got nine wins and everybody thinks, oh, you can't
count them out. Oh I wouldn't count them out. Patrick
Mahomes and all.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
That I get.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I get his resume, and his resume is phenomenal, But
can we talk about the here and now? And I'm
tired of talking about how bad the wide receivers are.
I'm tired of talking about the drops everybody goes to
every like if we do this for every other quarterback
Allen Oh, well he dropped that ball. Well, if they
want a holding on that play, well, if the guy
(05:06):
didn't line up all side, dude, stop with that.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Whatever happened to you? You know you're the superstar.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Make them better, make them better, and he didn't make
them better. Today, the reason that the Kansas City Chiefs
lost to the Las Vegas Raiders was because Patrick Mahomes
he had a fumble six, had a pick six back
to back.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yep, Alan, is that not ball game? Hey, that's ball game.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I don't want to hear about no drop passes today,
two big turnovers.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Kelsey's out to launch.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Okay, Kelsey must be so caught up with the with
the Taylor Swift all out. I'm just like, what but
but he hasn't played well this year this year, But
I'm bothered with everybody has a girlfriend and a wife.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Okay, okay, everybody. Everybody doesn't have that exposure.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
That's that, okay, but the whole focus else has the focus?
It was like, what was her name that Tony Romo
was dating? Was it Jessica Simpson? What was her name?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I think he might be right about that. Was it
alex Jessica Simpson? Who is Tony Romo? Dating.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I think it was I'll scheck. I believe Jessica Simpson.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Jessica Simpson, you remember they made a big deal about
her when he was playing, and because she's high profile,
So I get it.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Everybody has a girlfriend. What's your point there is there
are some guys and players in the league who are
dealing with stuff that is so beyond that. Your kids
might have to be sick, your wife might be your family,
and you got to play through You gotta play through it.
There's all kinds of other stuff. You think people have
perfect lives.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I don't care if you're a football player, but my
point is, can we just acknowledge that Patrick Mahomes isn't
playing well this year, and I get all the other
issues with the team. I think they've done him a disservice.
They asked him to take a friend team for deal. Hey,
(07:01):
oh yeah, we'll keep everybody together, do what Tom Brady did,
and we'll be able to keep this together and win
five six championship.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I heard all that exactly. Then he came back. They
restructured the deal game all the money Now there's no
money for anybody. I mean like that.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
This is where you are so so when you watch him,
and we talked about let's talk about today the turnover.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, that's on Patrick Mahomes today. Right, So in the
off season to your point, and I know that a
number of past good quarterbacks have done this where they
have invited their wide receiver corps to come live with
them or stay with them where they're at in the
summertime or over, you know, to get to know each
other better. You know, let's go to the local high
(07:43):
school field and let's run on let's run routes, Let's
get to know each other, let's get timing down. At
some point, if you know this is what you have
to deal with, you have to get on board with that.
You either have to make them better or you have
to go to your offensive coordinator head, go, we gotta
change something.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Didn't Aaron Rodgers get get trashed last year for the
same exact thing exactly. He got trashed. Oh he's a
prima donna. All these young quarterbacks. He didn't connect with them,
he didn't throw the ball in the off that's all
we heard. And then they struggle right last year and
the Packers didn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
It's it's something that when you got young guys coming
into you into a system, and that we and we'll
talk about this probably a little bit later, when Eric
the Enemy is no longer there to help that transition
or to help those guys get ready. Who's helping these
guys get ready? Who who's who's calling?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And what were they saying with the with the commanders
that Eric b Enemy was too tough? You remember that,
and maybe why? And look how sloppy the chief saw.
Look at them lining up off sides, look at the penalties,
look at all the sloppiness, And there's Andy Reid?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Is he there? And that leads to the frustration that
you saw a couple of weeks ago mahomes with that
offside call where he acted uncharacteristically and it wasn't it
was an obvious off side.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Then it wasn't even like like like a maybe it
was or maybe it was, and it was an obvious
off side and he made he threw a fit.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Right, So what you're starting to be upset with is
not necessarily that call. You're starting to be upset with
internal issues that, hey, guys aren't doing what they're supposed
to be doing, and why is that? That's what you're
really upset with but you know, but you're going to
try to make it it's the official situation, but it's
you're dealing with a whole lot more things internally.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And uh, you know, after the game today, go take
a look mahomes glassy eyes, almost in tears, Alan, Like
this is getting Can you imagine playing the game where
the other team's quarterback for real doesn't complete a pass
in the second half and you lose?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Oh my, yeah, it's not even possible, is it. It
seems hard to believe, hard to believe. But I'm happy
for aiding the counter counter because he's a produced ball
of maker. That's all you care about. It is it is.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It is mind boggling on the mistakes, all the other
stuff that's going on. And I've said it, I've been
I've been saying it all. I got crushed a month
ago and I said, he's not the best Patrick's not
the best player in the NFL right now.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I'm not talking about.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Career achievement and all that he's done. Nobody trying to
take that away from him. I'm just talking about his
play right now. And then the other one is Alan,
I said he might have plateaued you know, like I know.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's hard to believe. I don't know if he can.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Ever, you think he can play as good as he
did the first year he started, we had fifty two touchdowns,
won the MVP and the Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
If you surround him with the right personnel, the people
that can take a lot of that pressure off of
him and make plays on his mistakes. Yes, And that's
the thing about the NFL and any sports to some extent,
Achieving greatness and keeping it is hard to do, especially
during the course of a season. You got, like you said,
you have so many ups and downs. Look at Josh Allen,
(11:00):
you know the situation the Bills were, and everybody thought
he was done and the Bills looked horrible. Then what
they changed the offensive coordinator and they start putting in
plays for Cook and it's like, Okay, where's this guy
been all season? How come they haven't been using this
guy all season long. Until you get the right people
that understand your organization and what you're trying to do
as a team, sometimes you're gonna fail. And right now
(11:23):
the Kansas City Chiefs have been rested on their laurels
of we're just the Kansas City Chiefs. We got Kelsey,
we got the best quarterback in the game. Well, we're
gonna win every game. We're gonna we're gonna just destroy people.
That's not the case when things when you don't have
the right personnel or the people that are there to
make it a better team for.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
You, Right it is, there's issues and we will talk
about the enemy later on. But I think people thought
that he was just standing around, right, And I don't
know if we could say that anymore, But you got
to take a look and look at where the Chiefs ought.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
They had a season low.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Fourteen points, the fifth lowest in the Patrick Mahomes era
with Canada. Like, fourteen points is nothing. And can you
imagine being the defense saying we didn't allow completion for
three quarters and we lost like.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
That is an amazing stat in the NFL, that's just nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's just impossible to even believe. When I saw that stat,
I couldn't believe.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
It because you're just winning off a turnovers and running
the ball.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And okay, here we go eight seven, seven ninety nine
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Speaker 4 (12:31):
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Speaker 1 (12:33):
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especially today. Can you give Patrick Mahomes the slice of
the blame pie finally? Stop talking about the wide receivers,
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stop talking about the drops, stop talking.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
About the off sides and the penalties.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
He had back to back, gave a back to back
defensive touchdowns, a fumble six and a pig six. Is
the time to start blaming Patrick Mahomes eight seven seven
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the air, and another turnover by brock Purty, another interception
by that Ravens defense.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
It's a five to three school. I don't know who's
pitching in this game.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
But but five to three San Franciscos leading. But you
gotta get the Raven's defense is something. Come on, Allan
Lee Heyna.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I want to ask you, since we live out here
on the West Coast, now do you miss snow and
cold for Christmas? Not at all? I can see it
on video. I'm good watch Christmas all that we'd lived it.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, only the corduroy pants, the boots, the big jackets.
I'm good man. I lived in Detroit for twenty years
and you lived there eighteen lived there twenty years.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
You used to have to have the snow service come
pave the driveway, and it's I can go to work
early in the morning to do the morning you were
doing the morning news. What time did you get to
the station? Four before a little bit after four? Sometimes unbelievable?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Man, man oh man? All right, Alan, and speaking of
so this game is under right here. It's pretty amazing
where they are and the Ravens with the turnovers. They
brought prety two interceptions. This is going to be interesting.
This is a big game, just to see where they are.
Because remember the forty nine.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Ers or six and a half point favors in this game,
right this game being so low right now, if it
keeps this way, you know, the defense is only going
to intensify rather than this still being the shootout. I mean,
you go, somebody, if you get behind late, somebody's going
to have to try to start making that up.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And I told you before we came, before this game
started that the Ravens defense, like thirteen of the previous
fourteen games, have allowed ten or fewer points in the
first half and thirteen of their last fourteen games.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
That's incredible. Can't take you all off the ball? That's bad.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
All right, let's get to the Detroit Lions, a team
that we know really well. They finally won the NRG
North for the first time since nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
They were losing their minds.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Thirty they are celebrating. There there's no more confetti left
in the city of Detroit.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Did you see social media yesterday where they were all
the fans were.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
All they're all worked up and all excited and it
should be. And Allen, I don't want to be a
Debbie downer, yes, but I'm going to be.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
A yes, yes you do. All right, come on, let
it out, and I'm going to be a Debbie downer.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And I'm going to tell you that this season will
not nt be a success unless they win a playoff game.
Stop it, Alan, It's not the first dude. The idea
that it's been thirty years since they wanted the division
is dubious and tells you how bad the organizations like.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
It's ridiculous. Like even the.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Bears, where I've been that good, won a DIVISIONE right,
like within the last thirty years. Thirty years is a
ridiculous stat. I get Aaron Rodgers was there. I get
Brett Favor was there. I get all that, But that
doesn't mean one year you can't. And you know this,
Jim Colwell won up in his years there three times
they one year they won eleven games, they won nine.
(18:20):
A couple times they made the playoffs two of its
four times. It ain't like they have made the playoffs
in thirty years. But the only difference and the only
way I'm going to believe that the Lions have really
turned things around and are headed in a different direction.
And I'm gonna give Dan Campbell full credit.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yes he's changing. It's when they do.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Something that they haven't done, and that's when a playoff game.
They have not won a playoff game since nineteen ninety one,
and they've only won one playoff game nineteen ninety one,
since nineteen fifty seven. One, Allen, that's not even possible.
I remember watching when they won the playoff game. I
(19:04):
remember watching the game and I'll never forget. Go google it,
go put it. Go check out YouTube. John Madden after
they beat the Cowboys, and this is with Emmett Smith
and Michael Irvin and and uh Troy Aikman. John John
(19:25):
Madden says, you're watching the two teams of the nineties,
the Cowboys and the Lions. He said, the Lions and
the Cowboys. And you're gonna be hearing more from these
two teams. The Cowboys went on went in after that
to be in a dynasty, winning three out.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Of four Super Bowl. The Lions never made it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Think about that, and I'm gonna get people should be
excited because they want a division and and it's and
look they wanted.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I'm not I'm not gonna take it away from you. Caw.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The Packers went away from a legendary quarterback to a
rookie first year starter. Bears are terrible. Yeah, and the
Vikings lost their starting core. That's how they want to do.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
You know, when we were on in the summer, we
had this discussion about who would win this division and
we all picked the Lions. We all said, because the
division is not very strong, it was going to be
the Lions. Now, obviously, Minnesota had, you know, the quarterback hurt.
Her cousins got hurt. They were they were playing well.
He was having a great season.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
He was, and you don't know if he would have
stayed healthy what would have happened exactly.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
But you know what, when you have been deprived for
so long, Lions fans are so used to getting their
heart broke every every season. There's always that one game
where you know they should have won or they were
up by this, and next thing, you know, it all collapse.
We've seen them all. Yeah, So you know, I'm sort
of like, let the people enjoy this right now. It's
(20:53):
a step in the right direction. It's a youth and
I hear's the thing you said, it's only going to
be a successful season if they want to play. I
say it's already successful. But I think even if they
go to the playoffs and they make it interesting, they're competitive,
and they come up short, I still think it's an okay.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
See, I don't believe that. I think that at some
point to really turn the culture, it's about winning. And
once you do that, then we can't talk about nineteen
ninety one. We can't talk about one playoff wins in
nineteen fifty seven. You don't worry about that. You've turned
the page on it. Officially. If you lose, say they
get drilled, you can't tell me you're gonna walk away.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Stand the Lions had a successful season.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
If the Rams or the Cowboys or somebody come in
and they lose thirty four.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
To seven, you won't now so you won't be saying that.
That's what I said. I said, if it's a close game,
if they play somebody tough and close and you lose,
you know, you lose on the final drive of a game,
on a real tight game. I still think it's a
successful season in that sense because you have built upon
this and you know what you need to do for
next Like there's no question right now if you look
(22:01):
at the Lions right now, you go next season, do
on the way they draft, but they better show up
that defensive backfield. You know, you've the Jamior Gibbs looks
like the real deal, especially moving forward because he's gonna
get more usage. So yeah, I just think, you know,
you gotta give him some credit here for doing what
they had to do.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Give the Ravens credit. They go off for a fourth
and goal and they get the one yard touchdown run
by Edwards and they were up nine to five, and
they got to get kicked the extra point. But that's
so far, so far, so good on the road.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
So you're still just not believing in the Lions. They
have to win a playoff team me to.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Me in order to just change things for me to
really believe that there's changed, because because Alan, you notice,
when I worked as a columnist at the Detroit Free
Press and the Detroit News, I covered the Lions every
road game for like twenty you know, I was at
every game.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I went to saw the playoff games, you know, like
it's not like they never made the playoffs and they
didn't have a good team, right, So so to me
to fish officially make that next move. Because if you
remember when they when Bob Quinn came in as general
manager and and they fired their who.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I just say, the other coach from the Colts. Oh,
I'm me too.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
But but when they when they when they fired him,
they said Jim carlwell, I'm sorry. When they fired Jim Carwell,
remember they said nine to seven and going to the
playoff ain't good enough. You remember that nine to seven
and going to the playoff ain't good enough. And that's
what I'm saying. You gotta hold yourself. You can't just
be throwing up confetti. Hey, we want a division, okay,
(23:41):
Now now we lose the playoff game, a home playoff game.
You just want a division. Might win twelve games, you
don't expect to win that game. You gotta be disappointed
and gotta feel like you didn't get to your goal
this year because you said it. Most people gave them
the division because they looked at the division coming in
it was weak and was like, oh no, Aaron Rodgers,
(24:03):
the Bears are no good, okay. So they just got
to beat the Vikings, okay, and the Vikings gave up
that start running back, you remember, and they were the
changes there.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
But you know why, I think there's finally hope. For years,
everybody was telling the Ford Family like, like the fans
are yelling at Pistons games. Now sell the team, sell
the team.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
The Ford family finally, twenty twenty six years, twenty six
losses in a row.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Has finally got it right. The Ford Family finally seems
to have gotten the formula right. The people took over
and made the right decisions, made the right choices, and
you're in the right situation. But yeah, the Pistons, we
don't want to talk about it. No, we're not going
to get this too ugly. But I'm just saying, where
are you on the Lions. You know some people are
in on the Lions. They're excited their defense. You talked
(24:49):
about it. I don't think the defense is good enough
to beat some of the better teams.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And we saw it. They lost, should have lost to
the Bears. Remember the Bears gave them a gift.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
The Bears Game of Toughness. That was both games this
season they.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Did, and then they also lost to Green Bay at
home on Thanksgiving. Seattle came into that building after they
beat the Chiefs and the Opener scored thirty one in
their building. On their defense against some better teams, we
have to see that defense play because it ain't just
gonna be offensive. It's gotta be defense and they gotta
make some plays. Where are you on the Lions. What
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would be success in Detroit? We want to hear from you.
The three one three as well? Anybody can call in
eighty seven to seven ninety nine on Fox. Is just
winning the division good enough and they've already succeeded and
they can get lose and it doesn't matter, or do
they need to win a playoff game? Do they honestly
need to win? I think they need to win a
(25:43):
playoff game. Allen says, they play a competitive game and lose.
He's good with it. There's a success. We want to
hear from you. It is the odd couple. On Christmas Night,
Rob Parker and Allen Lee in for Chris Bussard eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine
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Speaker 4 (26:03):
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Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yes, and I enjoy it too.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
My goodness, gracious, Merry Christmas and happy Holidays to everybody,
to my family, to the Parker family in New York,
Merry Christmas to everybody. I don't get to see the
youngins anymore. They're all doing their own thing, you know
what I mean. I got three nieces and a nephew
there they look up to the big al No, so
(26:48):
they were very You know what I loved is in
Christmas and you know this with your family who I know,
but just the response you get out of I got
a video from my.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Nephew. Albany has a son.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Tristan has two sons, and Tristan is you know, old
enough to enjoy the whole Christmas experience. He's like four
years old and they sent me a video of him
opening the present.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I said, just the jay in his face. Oh man,
it's awesome. It's awesome. But you know, for anybody who
has kids and you and you just went through that
whole experience, there is no greater joy right than being
you know, the kids storming in your room, like at
six am, waking you up after the night before. You know,
you've been helping Sanna exactly. Santa's cookies are all right,
and the milk and everything.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And then that's the other thing too, is like you know,
like some of the kids have come and my friends
have told you know, they tell me, and and like
there is one of my buddies told me. Son came
into the room, you know, tapped him and said, I
think Santa was here.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You know what I mean, right, you know, like get
out of bed, Get out of bed, let's go. I
think Santa was here. Just go downstairs. Let's go. Let's go,
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
And they don't go down without asking, you know, do
not go downstairs, not touch anything, you know exactly.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
And they got to come in and then it's a
Christmas morning and they always check used to check to
see this, made sure that Santa ate the cookies cook
he's right. Did he drink the milk? Oh, drink the milk?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
All that?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah? All that?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Man, you know, no wonder he's put on some pals
cookies in the milk.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I mean, my goodness, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Our number two of the odd couple on this Magic
City Christmas Monday night. You know, we got the magic,
I mean the heat and sixers are about to tip off.
We got another football game coming up. The forty nine
Ers are hosting the Ravens. Not in San Francisco, in
the place three hours from there, but the close to it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeah, if you were playing pro sports, would you want
to play on Christmas Day now? But you're working here?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I would that translate for you to have to play
a game.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I mean, I think it's oversaturated now. At one point,
it was really an honor because everybody was home. Because
you know, us working in Detroit for a long time,
we do the Thanksgiving Day. I worked every Thanksgiving and
then it was a part of the fabric of the city. Right,
People go to Thanksgiving Day game and then they had
dinner afterwards. It's like just a part of the thing
that went on. But Christmas is tough, and it's good
(29:09):
to be here, all right, So let's do this. The
Dallas Cowboys. So they lose to Miami on a latefield goal, right,
I mean had a chance. They scored a late touchdown,
but then couldn't the defense couldn't hold in. Miami Finally
get to win against the team over five hundred. It's
huge for Miami. The game was there, but the Cowboys
(29:30):
lost again, they did be one team over five hundred, right,
the Eagles, I believe this year. So where are you
on the Cowboys as we go forward? Because they've won
twelve games over the years, like, this is not them
winning twelve. It looks like they're not gonna win a
division now, right, So they're not gonna gonna be like
a fifth or sixth seed, right, not a one seed
(29:51):
like the Eagles. Of course, winning today that helps them
in that situation, But where are you on the Cowboys
in another.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
The game where they couldn't beat Like I think a
lot of teams, squad, I think a lot of teams
are like in the situation right now, just like the
Eagles today where they almost lost that game to the
to the lowly Giants, almost lost that game.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
As this season has gone on, the greatest thing I
think you want to really do is clinch early if
you can't, because it looks like a lot of teams
are kind of tired. Looks like a lot of teams
are physically and possibly mentally worn out at this time.
They're making mistakes, they're doing things. Players are doing some
uncharacteristic things, and the Cowboys have not looked like the
same old Cowboys team where Dak was just killing it
(30:36):
earlier in the season. He was like in an MVP discussion,
he was playing so well, you know, he was.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Just like the boy that happened the last two games
after they lost that game in Buffalo, and then they
go to Miami with a chance to get righted right,
Miami has had ten wins, hadn't beaten a good team,
that would have been a good win for Dallas coming
off that loss to the Bill, Right.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I think you get to this point in the season
and there are teams that have so so much, not
only tape on you, but have analyzed you so much
and know what you do well and know what you
do wrong. Because I think today and they were talking
about how Miami was playing the Cowboys and how the
defensively sort of like drop guys back now to sort
of take away things from Dak and make it a
little bit tougher for him and I all season long
(31:19):
because he's on one of my fantasy teams, I kept questioning,
wait a minute, you got rid of Ezekiel Elliott because
Tony Poler was supposed to be the.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Main Well, he didn't have the year that that people expected,
but he was rightfully Dak was.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I mean, uh Zeke was at the end with the
Cowboy exactly right. But Pollard hasn't lived up to it,
I'll give you yeah. And it's almost to the point now.
It seems like in their offense, they're like he is
an afterthought. You know. They don't go to him as
much as you would even think to try to get
him going, which is interesting to me. And I think
that that that they went away with Matt once Dak
started to really play out of his mind and throwing
(31:54):
touchdowns all over the field for a while.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
But that was the biggest issue is that the Cowboys
win games. They bludgeon bad teams, bludge You talked about
the month that Dak had and everybody you had him
in the MVP conversation.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
And then he had a stinker in Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
But can they where are they? I picked them originally
to play the Ravens in the Super Bowl. I picked
the Cowboys when I looked at the NFC and I
look at some of the stuff that they had, I
looked at their schedule, I looked at they got a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I look at you know some of the stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
They don't have to be spectacularly the spectacular quarterback to
win right, limiture mistakes, get the ball to people, you
need to on third down, and it's not rocket science.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You don't have to be like the all time greatest
to win a Super Bowl. I think early in the season,
I think the biggest takeaway was in the NFC was
you had basically two teams that everybody thought was going
to be there, Philadelphia and the forty nine Ers. Forty
Niners still looked like the cream of the crop of
the NFC. The question is, now, though, you know who
kind of is sneaking up on people Tampa.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Bay and you know what we're get. We're gonna give
some Baker Mayfield some credit.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
We have to.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
They've won four games in a row. He's played well,
played well, he's played well. I mean that went in
Green Bay, which I believing a perfect passer rate.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah, they've got they've gotten the most out. It was
that Rashid White, the running back who for years has
just sort of been a so so player in that organization.
He is starting to just come on. So something is
going on down there where they have discovered a system
that works now for Mayfield, but for him.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
But what what where are you on the Cowboys as
far as if they don't wind up getting this done,
if they have another postseason blowout. You know when I
mean blowout, I mean, is this is this on Mike McCarthy.
Is this a dak statement? Because he was playing well?
He was in the m VP conversation like if this
(33:51):
falls apart and they lose and their their playoffs, they're
gonna be the fifth or succeeed right and they lose?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
What who do you put the blame on?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
There?
Speaker 4 (33:59):
They were? I have to put this blame on the
head coach because, as I said, teams are starting to
play back a little bit differently on the defensive backfield,
especially in trying to reduce what he had been doing
throwing the ball CD lamb and throwing the ball to
cook all over the place. But now so if teams
are starting to take that away from you, you have
to adjust, You have to you have to sort of
(34:21):
do things different, which is.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
So much about adjustment we talk about all the time.
And not to get off off course, but Alie de
la Cruz with the Reds. Remember he came in Gangsters
and I was on MLB Network and I'm just bringing
this up because I tried to tell people he was
killing it. Remember the next Big Star put him on
the All Star team. You know, he finished with a
(34:43):
two thirty five batting average and struck out a ton,
you know what, because they adjusted to him and he
wasn't able to adjust back.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
James Outman of the Dodgers. Remember he started off and
he was just looking like wow, and then team's kind
of like, okay, okay, we know you get the fastball,
now hit this right, and and he made some adjustments,
but it he went into that funk where like, okay,
I look like a rookie.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
And this is what I'm saying, like in sports, And
that's why you're saying Mike McCarthy hasn't made the necessary
adjustments because the offense have been better without Colum Kellum Moore.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Would you say that, yes, yes, And you know, and
here's a guy who came from Green Bay, so you
know he's he's coached great quarterbacks. But and you would
think that mccarvey has probably seen every kind of defense
you can imagine to try to stop your A list quarterback.
So I think that some of that situation where the
adjustments have to come from him, he has to, I think,
(35:33):
do a better look at the game film will get
they're taken this away from Dak now and we're not
as successful. We've got to figure out something else in
order to get us down the field.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
It's gonna be interesting because I think a lot of
people at some point, don't you think, how many years
can you keep going where you're not gonna make it
to the NFC Championship game?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
And who would you?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I don't know right now. I think the Lions would
play who Right now they play the Rams, But what
if it was the Cowboys? Who would you pick in
that game in Detroit?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Well, the interesting thing about Detroit, though, Detroit's defensive backfield
is suspect. I agree with that. That's the scary part,
you know, So Dak might be Dak again mid season,
Dak against against that Lions secondary. That's what you would
have to really worry about him, his ability to throw
that ball all over the field against that secondary. You know,
(36:26):
Lions fans are chomping at the bid of the possibility
of having to see Matt Stafford again.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
How painful would that be if he were to come
and then rain on their parade and still continue them
not having the playoff?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, and you know, I'm telling you the Rams offensively now,
they're flawed.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
But and then I'm not They won five out of
six or whatever it is all teams under five hundred,
but that's who are doing the schedule. I'm not knocking
them a chance to beat the Ravens. And they didn't
win that game. That showed me something. Remember they lost
an overtime that they should have won that game, but
they didn't win that game. So I don't know where
they are because they're flawed and a better team could
(37:06):
probably beat them.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
A better team, right, But now you think about those
Rams wide receivers having to play against the Lions though,
cup Pooka, that's a tough that's a tough defensive assignment.
And if you know how tough Stafford is, and people
I don't think sometimes forget just how mentally and physically tough,
especially physically Stafford takes a beating out there and just
(37:31):
keeps going, right. You know he's gonna be you know,
at the end of his playing career. I just hope
they just give him a sofa and let it lay
around because he takes a physical beating.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, no, he's been in there. And remember that Detroit.
He got beat up a lot. I heard early on
in his career.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
But the question really for the Cowboys is do they
have enough to beat? Can they beat the Eagles? At
this point in time in the season, Eagles are starting
to regress a little bit as well.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, the Eagles on the same team. And I think
we talked about this Allen before the show. Everybody thinks
it's the same team that went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
They lost both coordinated, they lost a ton of players
on defense. It's not the same team. And they won
early when they were winning all those games, a lot
of close games against you know, and they were being
good teams. And then they hit that patch and everybody's
like wow. I mean they went through like a gauntlet
of teams four games in a row and they beat
them all.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Like like, now, if you went ahead to the head,
Do I think the Cowboys can be the forty nine ers. No,
I don't think they can be the forty nine ers.
And I think that, like I said, like we said,
I think a scary team that you don't want to
play in the playoffs? Is Tampa Bay? I mean they
could sneak up on you. You know, Tampa Bay. Here's
what Tampa Bay is one of those teams. You don't
see him on TV very much, you know, and especially
(38:42):
in this market. You know you so people are like
Tampa Bay one, but you haven't seen them. But you
start looking at at some of the highlights or some
of the stats and you go like, man, how is
Baker Baker Mayfield's having? It's kind of a season. What's
going A lot of.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
People buried him, and boy, what a comeback? I mean,
and maybe this is where he needs to be out
of the lime left. But he did win a playoff
game for ye for the Browns. People forget that first
playoff winning twenty something odd years and people act like
nothing happen in Cleveland. So, but we're talking about the Cowboys.
You want to hear about you and where you are
on the Cowboys? Are you still in or you're still out?
(39:15):
On the Cowboys? They lose to the Bills and then
they go on the road again and lose to Miami,
which hadn't beat a team over five hundred all year.
It was a close game. They lost on the field
goal at the end, but you have you lost faith
as far as them moving forward going to the playoffs.
Can they beat a good team on the road in
the postseason because they're not winning the division?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
So where are you on the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven,
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Give me your Cowboys meter? Are you still feeling them?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
You still feel good about Dak and the Boys and
Jerry Jones?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Or are you out on them? That and much more?
You are coming up first.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
But it is the odd couple on a Magic City
Christmas Monday Night.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Stick and stay if you believe in America's team in
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