January 3, 2024 • 38 mins
Welcome to Unbreakable! A mental health podcast hosted by Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer. On today’s episode, we’re switching things up for the holidays. Jay takes care of so many people but who takes care of him? Meet Jay’s fiancée Rosie Tenison one of the most beautiful, intelligent, caring, amazing incredible souls. For everyone out there… it’s never too late to find love. But it takes a special spirit to stand there with me, help me grow, and feel worthy of feeling loved. That’s who Rosie is!!!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental health podcast
helping you out of the gray and into the blue.
Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome into a very special Unbreakable, a mental health podcast
with Jay Glazer. I'm Jay Glazer, and this is the
most special guest I've ever had on in my entire life.
And before I get to her, just a quick word
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through empathy and action. The way this came about is wonderful.
(00:59):
People over at Fox Sports Radio and a lot of
people out there have said, man, we have never seen
you better, We've never seen a better version of Jay Glazer.
And I said, well, Rosie's really the reason why my
beautiful fiance Rosie Tennyson, She's why And you know, I finally,
after all these years, found a partner who could really
(01:19):
lift me up. But I feel comfortable and safe for
the first time in my life. And they said, great,
let's get Rosie and I said, no, nono, now, I'm
not getting Rosie on, Absolutely not. And they said, do
you know how many people you can help and give
hope to if the two of you came on and
just talked about not only Rosie's life, which is unbelievable,
like she's the reality show of all reality shows and
(01:40):
the success story of success stories for all little girls
out there trying to make it, but also just the
hope that we can give people that it's never too
late to find love, and also to give people insight
into what she does to help me when my crazy
gets out of control, when my gray gets really dark
and deep, what she does tell lift me up and
(02:01):
to be there for me. So I am this better version.
So this is for Don and Scott m Horriy and
Justin and everybody else out there who has said this
is the best version of Jay Glazers they've seen. Everybody.
Welcome my beautiful fiance, Rosie Tennyson.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Thank you, babe. That's quite the introduction.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It is quite the introduction. Then move up to Rosie.
So what was your favorite acting or modeling job? And
now like she'll come up with and by the way,
here's the thing that the crazy part. Rosie ended up
graduating oh la la in broadcasting, Yeah, broadcast journalism because
she wants to be a sports reporter.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah right, And I.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Don't know this until a year ago, Like, hello, like, Rosie,
how do you fail to tell me this? And then
tells me she was a researcher in Fox Sports in
the early nineties, like the same thing I did, but
to start my career at CBS logging game tape and
I'm like, put it. I'm telling you why that we
saw his playmate sitting there doing and she is over
(03:05):
there on the research. You're like you you had a
kid me And like again, she doesn't tell me this
till like recently.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Oh by the way, very long.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I was only there for a couple of weeks and
that I ended up I feel like going on to
what I do now.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But it was fun.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It was oh so okay, okay, okay, so you do
that and then after that, you know, I've told you guys,
it's it's never too late to make a change. Right.
I've talked about this. You've changed your life in the
fraction of a second, and you decide to You decided
to get out of modeling all together, you and your
sister together at your height, right.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Well, yeah, we had we modeled for years and years
and years. But then after a while I kind of
was like, you know what, I kind of just the
I just lost the thrill and wanted to do something else.
So I remember I was thinking, gosh, what could I do?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
What can I do?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
And then I was watching this Oprah show called Find
Your Passion, and they were like telling you if you
could do anything, and a genie came down and said, Hey,
you know, you could do whatever you want. It's not
no one's telling you you don't have the experience.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You're too old or this or that. What would you do?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And my sister and I were like, we would probably
do something in fashion, because we used to like design
our own clothes and all this stuff. So that's what
we kind of were like, Well, wait, what if we
did something in fashion? What if we start like a
clothing company, which was like something we never would have
thought of or never would have even allowed ourselves to
even dream to do. And like slowly but surely we
started like you know, so you but.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
How old are are this time you reinvent yourself?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It was like probably in your thirties.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, you decided and your thirties you're going to completely
reinvent your whole life and whole career. Yeah, so I
want people to hear that too. That's great.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
That's never that extra, yeah, because it's a completely different
than what we were doing. So we just started off
like small, and we got like a little Kiosk and
like this is you know, Kiosk is in Idaho, which
what we were flying back?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So Kiosk in the mall in Idaho and you were
so you started selling clothes.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
We were doing accessories at the question time.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, you were just I'm making those little lot rhine
star jewelry and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
It was like a little crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So it started that.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, it started small, and then we like, you know,
several Kiosks, and then a friend of ours was telling us, hey,
you know you should combine these into like one store.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But you were still living here.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Did you move back to fly back and forth?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So you fly back and forth and you just have
people run those kiosks.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, yeah, okay, And then we ended up getting our
first brick and mortar in Santa Monica. This is like
our very first like store, which was like like the
start of like.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And their store is called Varga.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's called Varga, Yeah, and it was.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Named after Alberto Varga, who was the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
He does like the pennant drawings from like the fifties,
and it's like it's really cool because it was like
a really cool time like when women were like very
fashionable and they were dressed really like Elizabeth Taylor, Marilyn
Monroe or Rodrey Hepburn. So it's inspired by that kind
of concept, right.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And then so then you get one brick and mortar
and you have since gone on to build this empire
of how many brick and mortars.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
We've opened plate thirty Vargas over the course since since then,
since we start.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Again stores. But again, han, I love you to go
from these two little girls we're making a dollar an
hour working in these fields of topping corn and holding
beats and getting their dad stealing the money from them,
to going out and having a very successful get an
(06:25):
alf off that farm in Idaho, having a very successful,
you know, career in modeling and doing authentically and not
having to sell your soul for it, and then in
your thirties to say we're going to pivot and do
something completely different and build something that big on it
is incredible. It's incredible. And Rosie has a hard time
(06:45):
with realizing how successful she's been, how magnificent that is. Like,
this is the same two girls who have their arms
draped around them in Idaho watching the cars drive to
LA and you have both done that. If that ain't
the Amare dream, I don't know what it is. And
if that ain't two girls saying I don't care what
(07:06):
uphill battles we have, we are going to overcome them
and make our dreams come true, I don't know what
that is.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Can you give yourself a little grace and love yourself?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I can love myself up.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, it's hard to give yourself credit, I guess for
all the work because we were always striving to do
more and do more and do more, and then at
some point I was like, wait, you know what, We've
already done so much. Sometimes you kind of just need
to just kick back and like enjoy everything that you've
done and see it.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
But it's sometimes hard to.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
See for sure. But that's the thing that's a huge
lesson for everybody. It's like, that's where we get in problems,
is that we're we'll want more and more and more
and more and more, and you never get to enjoy
it what you have have, have had that exactly what
you've done, done, done, done, done. Like that's a big thing.
And that's a huge thing that gets in trouble in
between our ears, you know, with anxiety and with the grave.
(07:54):
We get stuck in the grave because you don't allow
yourself that grace. So if yeah, I did this, Yeah
done this, and it's a it's a huge thing that
we now work on with Rosie so she could start
loving herself for all this. Rosie does it with me,
so I can love myself up for all the different
things I've done. I've reinvented myself five different times, you know,
with different things with businesses, charities and you know, from
(08:18):
NFL to MMA to mental health. Now, like God, I've
you know, reinvented a bunch. But we really have to
love our souls up for what we've done all right,
So now we're gonna shift into how Rosie I met,
and we met in Covid. I had gone to Pittsburgh
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in a business trip right before everything shut down. And
I come back to my house and my friend Nikki's
Iering is there, who's my assist at time, she was
Eyeing's Erring's ex wife and she's done playboy and prices
right with Rosie. When I come home and I have
the tennis and twins at my house and they are
shifting drunk just sitting there at my house. I'm like,
(09:02):
and I kne who the tennis and twins were. I
didn't expect to ever see them at my house. I'm like,
this is pretty fantastic right here. And Rosie and I
just became friends in Covid, like you know here in La,
like no one wanted to look at you, and all
our business were closed down, and a couple of different
times we hung out just as friends. And one night,
(09:25):
NICKI and we're gonna ended up going off with this
deep conversation and I really got to sit there and
talk with Rosie and we started talking about God and
our faith right and we just started bonding. It was
about three hours, and so I shifted over from me
as a friend to man, this woman is fantastic. And
I said, can I take on a date? And You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(09:49):
we could do that, okay, But I literally go like
what she said to me that night was just so
different than anything else. And what she said by the
way she had been on I was running a yeah right,
I had her come on because actually wrote Rosie donated
clothes to some of our veterans. She donated a lot
(10:10):
of her equipment her store to a lot of our veterans,
right from merging vets and players. So I said, well,
I'd love to have you come on, and I'd love
for these people to thank you. So come on a
session on zoom. Man. We had about one hundred vets
and players.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And by the way, it's very really cool.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And putting them together and I'm coaching it. And Rosie
had said to Nicky.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
So I was watching the session and Jay is always
the one that's like, you know, leaving the pack over
there and cheering up, just encouraging everybody and just really
really positive.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And I was just I could see how much she.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Was like helping out everybody, like he's just like being
like this motivational person. So I was just like, Wow,
this this guy, he's so amazing. He takes care of
all these people. That's what you were just like giving,
so giving what you're saying. But I was like, but
who takes care of him? That's what I was just
like wondering, because I was like, Wow, he's so like
he's just giving so much for everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
But you know, I was just like, he takes care
of him, he takes care of him. And then and then.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
After after yeah, she said it again, she said yes,
and then she says to Nicky again, Hey, remember I said, man,
this guy takes care of so many people, but who
takes care of him? I think I want to be
the one that takes care of him.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah yeah, right, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Very same night, I said to her sister, Renee, Rose
has never been married. She said nope. And that's the
other part we'll tell you about Rosie. She said nope.
I said why, and Renee said, because all she does
is take care of everybody else. She's never given herself time, yeah,
right to take care of anybody. She always takes care
everybody else. I said, wow, I'm going to marry your sister.
(11:55):
Literally said that to Renee. Renee's like, okay, yeah, whatever, whatever,
sure you are. And I said, now I'm gonna marry
your sister. And it's the first time I've ever felt
like that my life, first time i'd ever And I
heard what you said from NICKI, and you said, man,
this guy takes care of so many people, but who
takes care of him? I want to be the one
to take care of him. I've just never heard that
in my life. I've never ever ever heard that. And
(12:18):
I was like, that's my soulmate, a my wife. And again,
Rosie here has literally like helped out older brothers get
jobs and moved them in with her, and helped her
sister and her relationship, and she's just taken care of
everybody else and those thirty stores, and she just never
given herself grace to say it's my turn. So I
(12:40):
think at one point you said, she's not gonna happen
for you.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
It was so like I kind of was so career driven,
and plus I was like, you know, I was kind
of had people like I was hopping.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Out and stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
But in doing so, I just looked up and I
was like wait a second, I realized. I was like
I didn't get married, I didn't have a family. It's like,
you know, I just one point. I was kind of
depressed because I felt like I had just missed the
boat and I was just it was too late.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And so I was like, wait a second, you know wow.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
So I remember like thinking like it was just not
going to happen, but it did.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
It's it's never too late, that's what. It's never too late,
Like that's the me.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Also started writing down I started.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
When I life, Oh yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
So I was like just kind of putting out to
the universe what I wanted. So I kept like making
all my passwords. I was like I changed them to
new Life. I was wanting a new life.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I was.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I was putting everything like a quite like best life
this life. So I was kind of thinking in my
head like what I wanted to attract. And it was
so amazing before we met.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, thanks all our past. Yeah every new life when
we meet twenty twenty. Yeah, new Life twenty twenty. Everything
was New Life twenty twenty. It's like it became so
instead of you taking care ofbody.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Else wishing, it's wishing.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
First time you allowed yourself to say, yeah, I am
worthy of this. I've got to make a change.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah that was big yeah, which was so unlikely, and
because I just had kind of gotten caught in a
red of doing the same thing over and over and over,
and so I was like, you know what, in order
for things to change, I have to change.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I have to be different.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
So when Nikki called me to come over, that was
something I may not have done. But then instead of
saying no, I started saying yes. I was like, yeah, yeah,
I'll come over. Yeah, let's yeah, I've seen you all.
So but that one, you know, meeting of coming over
to see NICKI, you brought me to meet you, which
changed my life. So it's like, you know, you're just
like one person away from like your life changing, or
(14:29):
when you know, like moment away, yeah that changes your life.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
So away. I did that once for Yus. I did
that one away as a motivate weekly motivation. I got
it from Rosie. She said, you're one away. You're one
meeting away from changing your life. One opportunity, one opportunity,
one dinner, one person day, one person You're one away
when your life changing, one encounter from your life changing
and she started believing that. Yeah, and she was and
(14:54):
thank God Almighty have happened because we met. Yeah. So
now our first date, we're closed in COVID and while
we were closed, we went down and took a bottle
of wine down by the beach in Santa Monica. It
was pretty hilarious. There was a guy with an acoustic
guitar sitting and we're still trying to kind of feel
each other out. And we actually we drove to Malibu
(15:14):
for a little bit because what a munch you could do.
We came back to Santa Monica where she lives. I
had a bottle of wine I brought. We sat down
there and there was a guy with an acoustic guitars
who was like, man, this is great. This is very robotic,
very very beautiful. Man. It was perfect. And all of
a sudden, the guy says, hey, you to on a
first date. We said yeah. He goes, I got a
song for you, and in acoustics sings, baby got bad,
(15:37):
Baby got back, Baby got back. He said, baby got back,
Oh my god. And I'm like, babe, just you know,
this is how my life is. If something crazy get happened,
this is that what's going to be.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It's actually really good.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
But I said, you'll always be enter dates. Okay. So
now our second date Santa Barbara was open. I called Roy,
aikman who lives in Santa Barbara, and I say, brother, man,
do you know the Tennis and Twins. He's like Rosie Renee.
I said, yeah, I know they are. I said, man,
I'm going on a date with Rosie. He goes, Wow,
(16:13):
good for you, I said, but I want to take
her to Santa Barbara because La is not open, and
I know you live there. Is there a restaurant you
can get me into that you love? He goes, I
love this Italian restaurant. I'll catch you guys in your set.
We drive up to Santa Barbara on our second date.
We're in there, and then we go to Lucky's for
a little nightcap over there, and all of a sudden,
(16:34):
our phone start pinging and ringing and ringing, sing it
and bring it, and everybody's like, you're right, you're right.
I'm like, I'm doing great, I'm pet of the Tennis
and Twins, Santa Barbara fantastic, And her phone's lighting up
and then my friend's like, yo, you need to come
over there, Yo, you need to come over there. And
I'm like, what is going on? And that was the
night of the riots that happened here in La and
(16:56):
her cell phone which shows her store, which was in
Santa Monica Place, which shows everybody looting the entire mall,
destroys everything, and that's her main store. So here we
are on our second date and they are putting her
out of business, smashed everything every and we're just watching
it from her phone of them smashing the windows of
(17:16):
the stores next to her. They didn't get it. They
didn't smash her when there's two stores. They didn't smash
the windows of.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Right everything else.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
No idea why. And I didn't think they know knew
you were a black o score but you got spare.
But it didn't matter. Put the whole mall out of business, Rosie.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
It was like intense. National Guard was there. It was
just it was really crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And meanwhile, I'm trying to fly back at one o'clock
in the morning and get her there, and even though like,
what are we gonna do? But I also want to
make sure like my house was safe, and so we
end up getting back there. Unfortunately Rosie lost her store.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, we ended up having to close that store because
the ball it just it's still it's still struggling because
it's just you know.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I still had to pay rent, and then all her
others store that were closed, she still had to pay
rent for it.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
COVID was very really hard. Yeah for you, right, really
good for sure? Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And here you are in a new relationship, and I
was just like, hey, you know, we did for about
ten months or so something like that, and I knew, man,
this girl my soulmate. She's it for me. And Rosie
ends up breaking up with me NFC Championship game right
after my babe, we're gonna have a whole, like our
whole off season now come, We're really going to work
on everything. And she said, no, I'm not coming home today.
(18:31):
I just we need a break. I'm like what, She goes,
I need to go save my store and I know
you need a lot of attention in time. And the
only way I'm going to do this is I have
to do this. I have to go. I'm going to
pull us out of debt. And I'm like, no, no,
I got it. I got I said no, no, And
she's like, I don't want to be like every other
girl and just take from you. I'm going to do
this right.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, well, I mean it was my baby, and I
just was like, I got myself in this mess, I'll
get myself out.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
So I just did what I had to do.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Was really hard time me because I thought she's my
soulmate and man, you know me who my mental health
issues believes like you know, the universe is gonna come
crashing that around me and the sky's falling. Skott fell
that day and it came out of nowhere, and you
just kept telling me, no, we're just didn't take a
break until I get myself out of this. But I'm
not having you pay for it.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
And for me, I was very conflicting because I'm like, yeah,
but then you're abandoning me.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah yeah, not like I was like, but I was like, no,
but I'm not. I didn't feel right about like having
him take on all this stuff that wasn't yours.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
So which no, I don't know another girl who would
have done that. They would just said okay, yeah, if
you can help me out and take take care of it, great,
and she just didn't. And and she kept also assuring
me this isn't forever. This is just a break in
my mind forever. It's that it's no way and it's
the first time I'd ever been in a tank, really
(19:52):
really in the tank, because I'm like, man, this is
like I finally got like this, this soul made of
mind who I did believe was like set up through
God because we are like you have to get me
and you have to get Rosie. And if you get us,
you really understand how special we are. And we got
each other, and you know, all of a sudden it's gone,
and I don't hear it's just a break. I hear
(20:13):
it's forever. To the point where I said, well, I
don't even want to be in California anymore, and I'm
so heartbroken. I need to start something for myself, a
new life for myself. And I moved to Arizona, and
the day before I left, Rosie came over to the
house to tell me, Hey, I got my ship straight.
(20:35):
I'm ready to get back. And I said, well, if
you're going to get back, it's going to have to
be in Arizona because I've moved, and that was really hard.
Rosie started crying. I don't see her cry a lot.
She started crying, and you know, I made my decision,
and she said, well, I told you it was just
a break. I guess I'll have to start coming to Arizona.
(20:57):
Nobody knows, but you know, last football season, every single week,
Rosie flew to Arizona from Wednesday, Friday or Saturday every
week and fought to get me.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Back, which was huge at the time, right, yeah, yep,
and eventually said to me, now backing up here, when
Rosie first did break up with me, I went into
this horrifically downward spiral.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I was already in an odd place because when I
wrote Unbreakable, people don't know this, but I stopped all
my treatment for my mental health illness and issues, which
was all therapy. I threw a lot of vitamins and
ivs and things like that, and different therapies. I've usually
of three therapists, but I work at my mental health.
I stopped it all to be in as darker places
I could be. So when I wrote Unbreakable, it was
(21:46):
so authentic. This is what depression feels like, this is
what anxiety feels like, this is what ADHD feels like.
And it took a long time to try and get
myself out of that hole. And I did that for
everybody else sitting at home, so I can discore it
and give it word so you will have the words
to be able to, you know, use moving forward and
(22:06):
have conversations with people. So still trying to come out
of that. And then this happened with Rosie. I really
went off the deep end and it forced me to
really go get help that I needed to change habit.
Trevor and I look now, say we didn't break up,
we probably wouldn't have made it because I really learned,
(22:26):
how you know, in that time I went to Thailand and.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I learned a lot of work on yourself, did a
lot of work.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You did a lot of work on yourself.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
You different, but yeah, but like you weren't worthy of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there was a yeah different things. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And you did a lot of work. And then you
would you say to me one day, you're gonna put
your captain hat on it?
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah, this is I was talking about your destiny. When
you're like choosing your destiny, it's like you have to
be the one.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
That puts the captain's hat on and then steer your
life the way you want it. To go even if
it's not you know initially where you want it. You
have to be like on a little you know, might
be a little canoe boat. Then soon you go to
the motor boat.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Then, but you're the one with the ability to take
your life in the direction that you wanted to go
and your destiny, which is what you're really good at.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And I decided to do that and say no, I'm
worthy of this now. So you could have Captain Don
and said no, I'm I'm going to steer my boat
into Jay's waters. And for me, I went to Thailand
and I learned how to heal that little kid of me,
how to feel like the universe wasn't against me. And
really there I understood I've been putting all this pain
for all these years so I can help others through theirs.
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And Rose and I were talking and we weren't together,
but I called her from there and I'm like, oh
my god, I am worthy of being in love. I
now know why I had this pain. And by the way,
I almost said this, like when I was out there,
this epiphany, like this voice from like God in the
universe of hey, listen, you you needed to be in
this kind of pain, so you can help others through
through theirs. But we need you to understand and see
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we made all your other dreams come true to keep
you afloat and that everything for me. You used to
always feel like I was cursed with this depression, anxiety
and the sky is falling mentality, And now I felt
like God blessed me with these mental health issues to
help others. And because I want to live a life
of service, I want to leave something behind in this life.
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And I know that unbreakable to save lives. I've been
you and I read messages of people who are going
to commit suicide now didn't because of this book. Are
people who are so lost and now found their way
because of this book or this podcast of something I
said of somebody. We do a weekly motivation and that
day that person needed to hear that message, and if
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they didn't, they might have made the ultimate wrong decision.
You and I we can't message again with that, so
I understand why we had to do it right. So
Rosie's coming out every week, and finally I just kind
of wanted to hear from her. Hey, I'll move to Arizona.
I want to be with you, But I still have
my stories back in La So I'm gonna have to commute.
(24:57):
I just kind of want to hear that from her.
And once she sat out to me, I said, no,
I don't want you commute. I want to be at
the all time. Okay, I'll move back to California.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I'll do it, right, I'll move California.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
But if it's a place that on the beach that
we both love, and we did and we did that,
we found a place and I fell more in love
than I ever could have dreamed. And folks, this is
what I want you to understand. Like I'm I'm fifty four, Rose,
and I know she don't look it, but we're both
in our fifties. It's never too late to find love.
And you know what, I think we're giving people home. Yeah,
(25:28):
right that it is never too late. And I absolutely
never had a love this deep. I've never been cared
for this deeply. I've never just been able to just
be with someone without worrying until I met you.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Yeah, it's really it's very like when you find it,
it's like really like unbelievable and it's great down.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
It with you. So it's really cool. It's never too late.
Too late late.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, what what's your feelings on all this stuff? Like you,
you when I first met you, you were never you
wouldn't ever allow yourself to feel like this. What changed?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I don't no.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I think I would always like I wanted it, but
then if it got to.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
I just don't know if I wasn't feeling worthy of it,
or I would sabotage it.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
It was it was a thing that I had to
go through that I never allowed myself to go deeply
into relationships. I was always on the surface. Probably I
wouldn't get hurt. But this is the first time that
I actually allowed myself to go in and give love
and receive love and to the level.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Of then why with me?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Because I think it was just meant to be.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I just knew, like like you and I are like
the same kind of going through the same things, and
you're like very vulnerable, and like.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I just knew when I met you.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I was like, this is the guy I'm supposed to
be with, and you're amazing, and I just knew it.
I don't know something, it's something you don't know until
it happened.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
So again, you don't know why things happened during the
time we hadn't broken up. You wouldn't have gotten more
help for yourself to open that you're yeah your heart more.
I wouldn't have got to do all the work I
did in Thailand and with my therapist to learn more.
So now we're going to kind of finish you off
here with the high point for us, it was our engagement.
Now everybody saw that we got engaged in Santa Monica,
(27:09):
which is the same spot where we had our first date,
but that actually wasn't the case, and nobody knows this.
So we did it when we did it publicly, when
I finally got our ring. But the truth is, as
I said, the year before, I went to Thailand on
a mind, body spirit journey to really learn how to
do breath work and meditation and heal that little kid
(27:31):
in me. And and I was fighting Muatai and the jungle,
which is fantastic. Oh my god, it was the greatest
thing ever. With my friend Mike Swick, who thought was
the first ultimate fighter and homes a place out there
called Aka Thailand, and another guy named Christian who's from
Sweden who's great kickboxers anyway, But it was really about
I didn't drink any alcohol. I only ate anti inflammatory foods.
(27:53):
I did breathwork and meditation every day. I work with
these monks as my therapists. I did all this and
I'm out there and I took a boat ride one
day and I'm out in the middle of the siamc
in the middle, I mean an hour and a half
away from shore, in the middle of the SIMC and
there's this big rock in the middle there, and some
(28:15):
was sitting and I look up and I kind of
get in the order, and I start having this conversation
with God. I start talking to God and I having
a great moment of healing and peace and some of
the stuff I'm talking about of yeah, you're worthy man,
you just you had to go through this and so
you can help others through there. So it was just
(28:35):
this beautiful moment with God who I felt. I really
felt the love of the universe, and I felt like
I was okay. And I came back and I told
Rosie about it. A year later. This past year, Rosie
comes with me back to the same place in Thailand
called Kamalaya, and I want to her to experience for
my experience it was for her, but I disguise it
(28:55):
and mastered as come out there with me so you
can learn these same things from these bunks, uh, this
breath work and meditation, so you can help me along
with it. I take Rosie out there and she's.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Like, I was like, but this is you know, I'm
doing it.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
But these monks are going to be able to relate
because I was, you know, I'd lost my business and
all this stuff. So I was like, they're not going
to know what you know, But actually it was great.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
They really do. They're very like, yeah, meditation.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Rosie crying like crazy, and I'm like, she's just lost
her mother and she's trying to do with that and
her stores. She's you know, she's you know, close those
stores that we're giving them problems. And it's been a
lot that's gone on in her life. She's got her
condo burned down twice, like not once, but twice. She's
been through a lot, and you shripped her and she
(29:43):
just starts hysterical crying. And then even these these monks
start helping you big time with they're great.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Yeah, they're actually like they give you like these analogies
that you wouldn't like expect, but they're really good.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
They're very good, like that really great.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Like I think I've used it here before. We're like,
for example, Rosie is telling this Monk, yeah, I just
don't feel worthy of you know, Jay's love, like and
all these things.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Crappy things happening to me, like with just everything, everything, everything.
So when the good things start happening at Jay, and
was like, you know, all these good things, they felt
like unworthy or like even worried that, like, oh God,
something bad's gonna happen, you know, because I was in that.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Little that was your story. That was your rack, I story,
it was my racket I was running with.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Bunk says to her, Rosie, what's what's your favorite food?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
And you say that R and D chicken sandwich.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
And then Monk clearly says you love that chicken sandwich.
He says, yeah, you get a great pleasure on that
chicken sandwich. Yeah, when you're eating that chicken sandwiches think
anybody else thinks you shouldn't enjoy that chicken sandwich.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You're not worthy of the chicken sandwich.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
And you said no.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
It was like, she goes, you're just enjoying like, like,
what happens? You know, you get another bite of Are
you worried that the person over at the other tables
thinking that you're not worthy of that chicken sandwich that
you're eating? And I was like no, She goes, you're
just enjoying your chicken sandwich until it's gone.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
And I was like, yeah, I'm doing the pride. And
she's like, well, this is this is this is your life.
This is your life sandwich, So enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Don't don't worry about what anybody else is like over there,
worried that you don't deserve that, or you shouldn't have that,
or the fries, or because you're not thinking that when
you get your favorite milk, you're just eating it and
enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
She's like, that's this. Your life's the chicken.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Your life is the chicken sandwich. And it changed everything
for Rosie.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
She literally looked a love Yeah, that's a really cool
right right, nobody's against me.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
There's nothing against me and she and it changed Rosy
and it changed her so much. I saw this huge change.
I take her on the boat ride totally different boat, coming,
totally different places everything, and all of a sudden we're
getting the sunset, and I look, we come over these
rocks and I look over and I go, oh my god.
(31:51):
We're at the same exact spot I was at last
year when I was having that talk with God. Oh
my god. I never thought i'd see that place again.
Oh my god. So maybe this is place I told
you about. This is the place. This is where I
told you I had that talk with God. She's like, well,
it's literally in the middle of the Siam c and
this like rock comes up, and there could be any
other place. We could have been a different boat company.
(32:12):
We're in the same exact place. And I turned a
Rosie and I said, maybe I promise you I'll always
love you, admire you, appreciate you. Most of all, I
will always take care of you and love you. I
guess I'm asking you to marry me. And she says,
well are you, And I go, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am,
(32:34):
I mean ask you to marry me, like I wan't
expecting it. But it's the same place.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
And what she says, I said, yes.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yes, Well I didn't have a ring, so we had
we had cutlery and there was a string around the cutlery.
So I pulled the string off the cutlery and I
put that on her finger, and she wore that for
a couple of weeks without anybody knowing that we were engaged.
We didn't tell anybody. She had this little piece of
string around her finger. I'm not going to show off
that we I got engaged to Rosie, but a little
piece of string on her finger, I'm gonna look like
(33:03):
the cheapest bastard who ever lived. So it really wasn't
until we went out. We went ring shopping. We did
it all and we got a ring. And then I said,
let's go back to the original spot of our first date.
And I got down on my knee and I did
a proper engagement. That's from the world found out that
we were engaged, But we were actually engaged for.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Two beautiful engagement and one that could only happen like
once in a lifetime and once amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, and you're really amazing too.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Again. This is you know. I hope we've given people hope.
I hope we've given people the ability to say, wow,
that there is It is never too late, and also
know that by a rosy story, it's never too late
to reinvent yourself, never too late to make a change right.
And I hope we've also taught more than anything with
your partner, lean into them and make sure they know
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I got you, I'm not going anywhere. I got you,
and really make them understand. And then the other thing
that Rosie and I really do right somewhere lessons. I
am very vocal to Rosie about what I need. Maybe
I need you to hear this, this is what I
need from you, and you listen. And the same thing
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she will come to me and say, hey, I'm really
uncomfortable with this, Jay need I need you to hear
me on this. This is what I need from you,
So be very vocal. We hear a lot of couple say, yeah,
he's not going to understand. Yeah, he's not going to listen.
Yeah she won't understand me. You don't know that until
you actually sit down and tell them, Hey, I really
need you to hear me here. I'm in a lot
(34:32):
of pain. And we've had somebody that we knew who's
one of the most beautiful women we've ever seen in
our lives, basically tell us she was about to kill
herself and she's in a happily married relationship. And I say,
he needs to understand your pain, and she said he won't.
I said, well he needs to. You deserve that. And
we called him over and said, hey, man, you need
to read the third chapter of my book that lays
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out this is what it feels like to have this
anxiety and this depression, and what it feels like and
what it feels like, just so you understand her, because man,
you deserve to understand her. She deserves for you to
be her best teammate. And he at that time said, oh,
I didn't realize it was this bad. Okay, and did
And you know, they're great, but really a lot of
(35:17):
times people were closest to we hold the most things
back from. Give them the grace of being your best friend,
give them the grace of being your teammate. Really tell
them everything you're going through and don't say, oh, I
don't want to put more on them. No, that's what
marriage is about. That's relationships are about. So you have
the ultimate teammate walking this walk together with you.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
That's great. I love that, so baby. I loved having
you on. I love showing you to the world. It's
been fantastic. Anything else you want to add, if something
you've learned from us, or.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I just think that the communication is really like our
communication the second go around is much better. So like
that's the best thing that we give each other is
like now we're communicating and making sure that we're like
making sure the other one knows like like what you
just said.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah, so it's it's amazing. It's been really good and
I want you.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
To know also, like I've had a lot of miltowns
to you. Has it ever gotten too much?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
No? No, it's no.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
But but if it does, then you know you just
take a little like you know, get a little moment
and then come back and reset.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
But no, it's like, yeah, well my point is people think, oh,
it's be too much and that other person's going to
leave right now.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
No no, yeah, no, yeah, that's that's what you just
have to assure them and reassure the reassure them and
and you know, reassure them because that's.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
That you've been on and off forget together now for
three years and she still reassures me, and she may
have to for the rest of her life.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
And the meltdowns are really part of it. Like so
they make you grow, they make you.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Grow closer because you can make it through it. Because
sometimes people are fearful, like if this happens, the person's
going to break up with you or it's going to
end the thing. But like, bumpy roads just make you stronger.
And if your relationship is not strong enough to make
it through these bumpy roads, then it's not that strong
of a.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Relationship that's make it through the storms through the story. Yeah,
so it's like I start with.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
The bumpy roads and then make sure you get through
those so you could together hold each other's hands and
get through the storms of life. Nobody more than I'd
rather go through these storms of life.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
That is my beautiful fiance, Rosie Tennyson, one half of
the tennis and twins, the better half. Uh, better clean
that up. But also I did. The great part to
me is I do get a sister. Renee has been amazing.
She has been fantastic. And one thing you do is
you don't get between two twins. You make sure that
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you follster that relationship more and more and more. They
started in the room and you two were survivors again,
your survivors. You survived that place in Idaho and these
journeys and all these you guys are survivors. You were
the American dream and your mind trip.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Thank you. I love you too, Folks.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
This was the best guest I've ever had, an unbreakable
hope you enjoy it over the holidays, and I hope
we have given you all some hope and some lessons
for you all to walk this walk together.
This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental health podcast
helping you out of the gray and into the blue.
Now here's Jay Glacier.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
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with Jay Glazer. I'm Jay Glazer, and this is the
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People over at Fox Sports Radio and a lot of
people out there have said, man, we have never seen
you better, We've never seen a better version of Jay Glazer.
And I said, well, Rosie's really the reason why my
beautiful fiance Rosie Tennyson, She's why And you know, I finally,
after all these years, found a partner who could really
(01:19):
lift me up. But I feel comfortable and safe for
the first time in my life. And they said, great,
let's get Rosie and I said, no, nono, now, I'm
not getting Rosie on, Absolutely not. And they said, do
you know how many people you can help and give
hope to if the two of you came on and
just talked about not only Rosie's life, which is unbelievable,
like she's the reality show of all reality shows and
(01:40):
the success story of success stories for all little girls
out there trying to make it, but also just the
hope that we can give people that it's never too
late to find love, and also to give people insight
into what she does to help me when my crazy
gets out of control, when my gray gets really dark
and deep, what she does tell lift me up and
(02:01):
to be there for me. So I am this better version.
So this is for Don and Scott m Horriy and
Justin and everybody else out there who has said this
is the best version of Jay Glazers they've seen. Everybody.
Welcome my beautiful fiance, Rosie Tennyson.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Thank you, babe. That's quite the introduction.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It is quite the introduction. Then move up to Rosie.
So what was your favorite acting or modeling job? And
now like she'll come up with and by the way,
here's the thing that the crazy part. Rosie ended up
graduating oh la la in broadcasting, Yeah, broadcast journalism because
she wants to be a sports reporter.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah right, And I.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Don't know this until a year ago, Like, hello, like, Rosie,
how do you fail to tell me this? And then
tells me she was a researcher in Fox Sports in
the early nineties, like the same thing I did, but
to start my career at CBS logging game tape and
I'm like, put it. I'm telling you why that we
saw his playmate sitting there doing and she is over
(03:05):
there on the research. You're like you you had a
kid me And like again, she doesn't tell me this
till like recently.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Oh by the way, very long.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I was only there for a couple of weeks and
that I ended up I feel like going on to
what I do now.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But it was fun.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It was oh so okay, okay, okay, so you do
that and then after that, you know, I've told you guys,
it's it's never too late to make a change. Right.
I've talked about this. You've changed your life in the
fraction of a second, and you decide to You decided
to get out of modeling all together, you and your
sister together at your height, right.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Well, yeah, we had we modeled for years and years
and years. But then after a while I kind of
was like, you know what, I kind of just the
I just lost the thrill and wanted to do something else.
So I remember I was thinking, gosh, what could I do?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
What can I do?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
And then I was watching this Oprah show called Find
Your Passion, and they were like telling you if you
could do anything, and a genie came down and said, Hey,
you know, you could do whatever you want. It's not
no one's telling you you don't have the experience.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You're too old or this or that. What would you do?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And my sister and I were like, we would probably
do something in fashion, because we used to like design
our own clothes and all this stuff. So that's what
we kind of were like, Well, wait, what if we
did something in fashion? What if we start like a
clothing company, which was like something we never would have
thought of or never would have even allowed ourselves to
even dream to do. And like slowly but surely we
started like you know, so you but.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
How old are are this time you reinvent yourself?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It was like probably in your thirties.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, you decided and your thirties you're going to completely
reinvent your whole life and whole career. Yeah, so I
want people to hear that too. That's great.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
That's never that extra, yeah, because it's a completely different
than what we were doing. So we just started off
like small, and we got like a little Kiosk and
like this is you know, Kiosk is in Idaho, which
what we were flying back?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So Kiosk in the mall in Idaho and you were
so you started selling clothes.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
We were doing accessories at the question time.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, you were just I'm making those little lot rhine
star jewelry and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
It was like a little crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So it started that.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, it started small, and then we like, you know,
several Kiosks, and then a friend of ours was telling us, hey,
you know you should combine these into like one store.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
But you were still living here.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Did you move back to fly back and forth?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So you fly back and forth and you just have
people run those kiosks.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, yeah, okay, And then we ended up getting our
first brick and mortar in Santa Monica. This is like
our very first like store, which was like like the
start of like.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And their store is called Varga.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's called Varga, Yeah, and it was.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Named after Alberto Varga, who was the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
He does like the pennant drawings from like the fifties,
and it's like it's really cool because it was like
a really cool time like when women were like very
fashionable and they were dressed really like Elizabeth Taylor, Marilyn
Monroe or Rodrey Hepburn. So it's inspired by that kind
of concept, right.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And then so then you get one brick and mortar
and you have since gone on to build this empire
of how many brick and mortars.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
We've opened plate thirty Vargas over the course since since then,
since we start.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Again stores. But again, han, I love you to go
from these two little girls we're making a dollar an
hour working in these fields of topping corn and holding
beats and getting their dad stealing the money from them,
to going out and having a very successful get an
(06:25):
alf off that farm in Idaho, having a very successful,
you know, career in modeling and doing authentically and not
having to sell your soul for it, and then in
your thirties to say we're going to pivot and do
something completely different and build something that big on it
is incredible. It's incredible. And Rosie has a hard time
(06:45):
with realizing how successful she's been, how magnificent that is. Like,
this is the same two girls who have their arms
draped around them in Idaho watching the cars drive to
LA and you have both done that. If that ain't
the Amare dream, I don't know what it is. And
if that ain't two girls saying I don't care what
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uphill battles we have, we are going to overcome them
and make our dreams come true, I don't know what
that is.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Can you give yourself a little grace and love yourself?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I can love myself up.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, it's hard to give yourself credit, I guess for
all the work because we were always striving to do
more and do more and do more, and then at
some point I was like, wait, you know what, We've
already done so much. Sometimes you kind of just need
to just kick back and like enjoy everything that you've
done and see it.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
But it's sometimes hard to.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
See for sure. But that's the thing that's a huge
lesson for everybody. It's like, that's where we get in problems,
is that we're we'll want more and more and more
and more and more, and you never get to enjoy
it what you have have, have had that exactly what
you've done, done, done, done, done. Like that's a big thing.
And that's a huge thing that gets in trouble in
between our ears, you know, with anxiety and with the grave.
(07:54):
We get stuck in the grave because you don't allow
yourself that grace. So if yeah, I did this, Yeah
done this, and it's a it's a huge thing that
we now work on with Rosie so she could start
loving herself for all this. Rosie does it with me,
so I can love myself up for all the different
things I've done. I've reinvented myself five different times, you know,
with different things with businesses, charities and you know, from
(08:18):
NFL to MMA to mental health. Now, like God, I've
you know, reinvented a bunch. But we really have to
love our souls up for what we've done all right,
So now we're gonna shift into how Rosie I met,
and we met in Covid. I had gone to Pittsburgh
(08:39):
in a business trip right before everything shut down. And
I come back to my house and my friend Nikki's
Iering is there, who's my assist at time, she was
Eyeing's Erring's ex wife and she's done playboy and prices
right with Rosie. When I come home and I have
the tennis and twins at my house and they are
shifting drunk just sitting there at my house. I'm like,
(09:02):
and I kne who the tennis and twins were. I
didn't expect to ever see them at my house. I'm like,
this is pretty fantastic right here. And Rosie and I
just became friends in Covid, like you know here in La,
like no one wanted to look at you, and all
our business were closed down, and a couple of different
times we hung out just as friends. And one night,
(09:25):
NICKI and we're gonna ended up going off with this
deep conversation and I really got to sit there and
talk with Rosie and we started talking about God and
our faith right and we just started bonding. It was
about three hours, and so I shifted over from me
as a friend to man, this woman is fantastic. And
I said, can I take on a date? And You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(09:49):
we could do that, okay, But I literally go like
what she said to me that night was just so
different than anything else. And what she said by the
way she had been on I was running a yeah right,
I had her come on because actually wrote Rosie donated
clothes to some of our veterans. She donated a lot
(10:10):
of her equipment her store to a lot of our veterans,
right from merging vets and players. So I said, well,
I'd love to have you come on, and I'd love
for these people to thank you. So come on a
session on zoom. Man. We had about one hundred vets
and players.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And by the way, it's very really cool.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And putting them together and I'm coaching it. And Rosie
had said to Nicky.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
So I was watching the session and Jay is always
the one that's like, you know, leaving the pack over
there and cheering up, just encouraging everybody and just really
really positive.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And I was just I could see how much she.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Was like helping out everybody, like he's just like being
like this motivational person. So I was just like, Wow,
this this guy, he's so amazing. He takes care of
all these people. That's what you were just like giving,
so giving what you're saying. But I was like, but
who takes care of him? That's what I was just
like wondering, because I was like, Wow, he's so like
he's just giving so much for everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
But you know, I was just like, he takes care
of him, he takes care of him. And then and then.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
After after yeah, she said it again, she said yes,
and then she says to Nicky again, Hey, remember I said, man,
this guy takes care of so many people, but who
takes care of him? I think I want to be
the one that takes care of him.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah yeah, right, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Very same night, I said to her sister, Renee, Rose
has never been married. She said nope. And that's the
other part we'll tell you about Rosie. She said nope.
I said why, and Renee said, because all she does
is take care of everybody else. She's never given herself time, yeah,
right to take care of anybody. She always takes care
everybody else. I said, wow, I'm going to marry your sister.
(11:55):
Literally said that to Renee. Renee's like, okay, yeah, whatever, whatever,
sure you are. And I said, now I'm gonna marry
your sister. And it's the first time I've ever felt
like that my life, first time i'd ever And I
heard what you said from NICKI, and you said, man,
this guy takes care of so many people, but who
takes care of him? I want to be the one
to take care of him. I've just never heard that
in my life. I've never ever ever heard that. And
(12:18):
I was like, that's my soulmate, a my wife. And again,
Rosie here has literally like helped out older brothers get
jobs and moved them in with her, and helped her
sister and her relationship, and she's just taken care of
everybody else and those thirty stores, and she just never
given herself grace to say it's my turn. So I
(12:40):
think at one point you said, she's not gonna happen
for you.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
It was so like I kind of was so career driven,
and plus I was like, you know, I was kind
of had people like I was hopping.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Out and stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
But in doing so, I just looked up and I
was like wait a second, I realized. I was like
I didn't get married, I didn't have a family. It's like,
you know, I just one point. I was kind of
depressed because I felt like I had just missed the
boat and I was just it was too late.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And so I was like, wait a second, you know wow.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
So I remember like thinking like it was just not
going to happen, but it did.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
It's it's never too late, that's what. It's never too late,
Like that's the me.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Also started writing down I started.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
When I life, Oh yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
So I was like just kind of putting out to
the universe what I wanted. So I kept like making
all my passwords. I was like I changed them to
new Life. I was wanting a new life.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I was.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I was putting everything like a quite like best life
this life. So I was kind of thinking in my
head like what I wanted to attract. And it was
so amazing before we met.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, thanks all our past. Yeah every new life when
we meet twenty twenty. Yeah, new Life twenty twenty. Everything
was New Life twenty twenty. It's like it became so
instead of you taking care ofbody.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Else wishing, it's wishing.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
First time you allowed yourself to say, yeah, I am
worthy of this. I've got to make a change.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah that was big yeah, which was so unlikely, and
because I just had kind of gotten caught in a
red of doing the same thing over and over and over,
and so I was like, you know what, in order
for things to change, I have to change.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I have to be different.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
So when Nikki called me to come over, that was
something I may not have done. But then instead of
saying no, I started saying yes. I was like, yeah, yeah,
I'll come over. Yeah, let's yeah, I've seen you all.
So but that one, you know, meeting of coming over
to see NICKI, you brought me to meet you, which
changed my life. So it's like, you know, you're just
like one person away from like your life changing, or
(14:29):
when you know, like moment away, yeah that changes your life.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
So away. I did that once for Yus. I did
that one away as a motivate weekly motivation. I got
it from Rosie. She said, you're one away. You're one
meeting away from changing your life. One opportunity, one opportunity,
one dinner, one person day, one person You're one away
when your life changing, one encounter from your life changing
and she started believing that. Yeah, and she was and
(14:54):
thank God Almighty have happened because we met. Yeah. So
now our first date, we're closed in COVID and while
we were closed, we went down and took a bottle
of wine down by the beach in Santa Monica. It
was pretty hilarious. There was a guy with an acoustic
guitar sitting and we're still trying to kind of feel
each other out. And we actually we drove to Malibu
(15:14):
for a little bit because what a munch you could do.
We came back to Santa Monica where she lives. I
had a bottle of wine I brought. We sat down
there and there was a guy with an acoustic guitars
who was like, man, this is great. This is very robotic,
very very beautiful. Man. It was perfect. And all of
a sudden, the guy says, hey, you to on a
first date. We said yeah. He goes, I got a
song for you, and in acoustics sings, baby got bad,
(15:37):
Baby got back, Baby got back. He said, baby got back,
Oh my god. And I'm like, babe, just you know,
this is how my life is. If something crazy get happened,
this is that what's going to be.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It's actually really good.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
But I said, you'll always be enter dates. Okay. So
now our second date Santa Barbara was open. I called Roy,
aikman who lives in Santa Barbara, and I say, brother, man,
do you know the Tennis and Twins. He's like Rosie Renee.
I said, yeah, I know they are. I said, man,
I'm going on a date with Rosie. He goes, Wow,
(16:13):
good for you, I said, but I want to take
her to Santa Barbara because La is not open, and
I know you live there. Is there a restaurant you
can get me into that you love? He goes, I
love this Italian restaurant. I'll catch you guys in your set.
We drive up to Santa Barbara on our second date.
We're in there, and then we go to Lucky's for
a little nightcap over there, and all of a sudden,
(16:34):
our phone start pinging and ringing and ringing, sing it
and bring it, and everybody's like, you're right, you're right.
I'm like, I'm doing great, I'm pet of the Tennis
and Twins, Santa Barbara fantastic, And her phone's lighting up
and then my friend's like, yo, you need to come
over there, Yo, you need to come over there. And
I'm like, what is going on? And that was the
night of the riots that happened here in La and
(16:56):
her cell phone which shows her store, which was in
Santa Monica Place, which shows everybody looting the entire mall,
destroys everything, and that's her main store. So here we
are on our second date and they are putting her
out of business, smashed everything every and we're just watching
it from her phone of them smashing the windows of
(17:16):
the stores next to her. They didn't get it. They
didn't smash her when there's two stores. They didn't smash
the windows of.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Right everything else.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
No idea why. And I didn't think they know knew
you were a black o score but you got spare.
But it didn't matter. Put the whole mall out of business, Rosie.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
It was like intense. National Guard was there. It was
just it was really crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And meanwhile, I'm trying to fly back at one o'clock
in the morning and get her there, and even though like,
what are we gonna do? But I also want to
make sure like my house was safe, and so we
end up getting back there. Unfortunately Rosie lost her store.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, we ended up having to close that store because
the ball it just it's still it's still struggling because
it's just you know.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I still had to pay rent, and then all her
others store that were closed, she still had to pay
rent for it.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
COVID was very really hard. Yeah for you, right, really
good for sure? Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
And here you are in a new relationship, and I
was just like, hey, you know, we did for about
ten months or so something like that, and I knew, man,
this girl my soulmate. She's it for me. And Rosie
ends up breaking up with me NFC Championship game right
after my babe, we're gonna have a whole, like our
whole off season now come, We're really going to work
on everything. And she said, no, I'm not coming home today.
(18:31):
I just we need a break. I'm like what, She goes,
I need to go save my store and I know
you need a lot of attention in time. And the
only way I'm going to do this is I have
to do this. I have to go. I'm going to
pull us out of debt. And I'm like, no, no,
I got it. I got I said no, no, And
she's like, I don't want to be like every other
girl and just take from you. I'm going to do
this right.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, well, I mean it was my baby, and I
just was like, I got myself in this mess, I'll
get myself out.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
So I just did what I had to do.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Was really hard time me because I thought she's my
soulmate and man, you know me who my mental health
issues believes like you know, the universe is gonna come
crashing that around me and the sky's falling. Skott fell
that day and it came out of nowhere, and you
just kept telling me, no, we're just didn't take a
break until I get myself out of this. But I'm
not having you pay for it.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
And for me, I was very conflicting because I'm like, yeah,
but then you're abandoning me.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah yeah, not like I was like, but I was like, no,
but I'm not. I didn't feel right about like having
him take on all this stuff that wasn't yours.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
So which no, I don't know another girl who would
have done that. They would just said okay, yeah, if
you can help me out and take take care of it, great,
and she just didn't. And and she kept also assuring
me this isn't forever. This is just a break in
my mind forever. It's that it's no way and it's
the first time I'd ever been in a tank, really
(19:52):
really in the tank, because I'm like, man, this is
like I finally got like this, this soul made of
mind who I did believe was like set up through
God because we are like you have to get me
and you have to get Rosie. And if you get us,
you really understand how special we are. And we got
each other, and you know, all of a sudden it's gone,
and I don't hear it's just a break. I hear
(20:13):
it's forever. To the point where I said, well, I
don't even want to be in California anymore, and I'm
so heartbroken. I need to start something for myself, a
new life for myself. And I moved to Arizona, and
the day before I left, Rosie came over to the
house to tell me, Hey, I got my ship straight.
(20:35):
I'm ready to get back. And I said, well, if
you're going to get back, it's going to have to
be in Arizona because I've moved, and that was really hard.
Rosie started crying. I don't see her cry a lot.
She started crying, and you know, I made my decision,
and she said, well, I told you it was just
a break. I guess I'll have to start coming to Arizona.
(20:57):
Nobody knows, but you know, last football season, every single week,
Rosie flew to Arizona from Wednesday, Friday or Saturday every
week and fought to get me.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Back, which was huge at the time, right, yeah, yep,
and eventually said to me, now backing up here, when
Rosie first did break up with me, I went into
this horrifically downward spiral.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I was already in an odd place because when I
wrote Unbreakable, people don't know this, but I stopped all
my treatment for my mental health illness and issues, which
was all therapy. I threw a lot of vitamins and
ivs and things like that, and different therapies. I've usually
of three therapists, but I work at my mental health.
I stopped it all to be in as darker places
I could be. So when I wrote Unbreakable, it was
(21:46):
so authentic. This is what depression feels like, this is
what anxiety feels like, this is what ADHD feels like.
And it took a long time to try and get
myself out of that hole. And I did that for
everybody else sitting at home, so I can discore it
and give it word so you will have the words
to be able to, you know, use moving forward and
(22:06):
have conversations with people. So still trying to come out
of that. And then this happened with Rosie. I really
went off the deep end and it forced me to
really go get help that I needed to change habit.
Trevor and I look now, say we didn't break up,
we probably wouldn't have made it because I really learned,
(22:26):
how you know, in that time I went to Thailand and.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I learned a lot of work on yourself, did a
lot of work.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You did a lot of work on yourself.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
You different, but yeah, but like you weren't worthy of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there was a yeah different things. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
And you did a lot of work. And then you
would you say to me one day, you're gonna put
your captain hat on it?
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah, this is I was talking about your destiny. When
you're like choosing your destiny, it's like you have to
be the one.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
That puts the captain's hat on and then steer your
life the way you want it. To go even if
it's not you know initially where you want it. You
have to be like on a little you know, might
be a little canoe boat. Then soon you go to
the motor boat.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Then, but you're the one with the ability to take
your life in the direction that you wanted to go
and your destiny, which is what you're really good at.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And I decided to do that and say no, I'm
worthy of this now. So you could have Captain Don
and said no, I'm I'm going to steer my boat
into Jay's waters. And for me, I went to Thailand
and I learned how to heal that little kid of me,
how to feel like the universe wasn't against me. And
really there I understood I've been putting all this pain
for all these years so I can help others through theirs.
(23:32):
And Rose and I were talking and we weren't together,
but I called her from there and I'm like, oh
my god, I am worthy of being in love. I
now know why I had this pain. And by the way,
I almost said this, like when I was out there,
this epiphany, like this voice from like God in the
universe of hey, listen, you you needed to be in
this kind of pain, so you can help others through
through theirs. But we need you to understand and see
(23:54):
we made all your other dreams come true to keep
you afloat and that everything for me. You used to
always feel like I was cursed with this depression, anxiety
and the sky is falling mentality, And now I felt
like God blessed me with these mental health issues to
help others. And because I want to live a life
of service, I want to leave something behind in this life.
(24:15):
And I know that unbreakable to save lives. I've been
you and I read messages of people who are going
to commit suicide now didn't because of this book. Are
people who are so lost and now found their way
because of this book or this podcast of something I
said of somebody. We do a weekly motivation and that
day that person needed to hear that message, and if
(24:36):
they didn't, they might have made the ultimate wrong decision.
You and I we can't message again with that, so
I understand why we had to do it right. So
Rosie's coming out every week, and finally I just kind
of wanted to hear from her. Hey, I'll move to Arizona.
I want to be with you, But I still have
my stories back in La So I'm gonna have to commute.
(24:57):
I just kind of want to hear that from her.
And once she sat out to me, I said, no,
I don't want you commute. I want to be at
the all time. Okay, I'll move back to California.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I'll do it, right, I'll move California.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
But if it's a place that on the beach that
we both love, and we did and we did that,
we found a place and I fell more in love
than I ever could have dreamed. And folks, this is
what I want you to understand. Like I'm I'm fifty four, Rose,
and I know she don't look it, but we're both
in our fifties. It's never too late to find love.
And you know what, I think we're giving people home. Yeah,
(25:28):
right that it is never too late. And I absolutely
never had a love this deep. I've never been cared
for this deeply. I've never just been able to just
be with someone without worrying until I met you.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Yeah, it's really it's very like when you find it,
it's like really like unbelievable and it's great down.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
It with you. So it's really cool. It's never too late.
Too late late.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, what what's your feelings on all this stuff? Like you,
you when I first met you, you were never you
wouldn't ever allow yourself to feel like this. What changed?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I don't no.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I think I would always like I wanted it, but
then if it got to.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
I just don't know if I wasn't feeling worthy of it,
or I would sabotage it.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
It was it was a thing that I had to
go through that I never allowed myself to go deeply
into relationships. I was always on the surface. Probably I
wouldn't get hurt. But this is the first time that
I actually allowed myself to go in and give love
and receive love and to the level.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Of then why with me?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Because I think it was just meant to be.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I just knew, like like you and I are like
the same kind of going through the same things, and
you're like very vulnerable, and like.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I just knew when I met you.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I was like, this is the guy I'm supposed to
be with, and you're amazing, and I just knew it.
I don't know something, it's something you don't know until
it happened.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
So again, you don't know why things happened during the
time we hadn't broken up. You wouldn't have gotten more
help for yourself to open that you're yeah your heart more.
I wouldn't have got to do all the work I
did in Thailand and with my therapist to learn more.
So now we're going to kind of finish you off
here with the high point for us, it was our engagement.
Now everybody saw that we got engaged in Santa Monica,
(27:09):
which is the same spot where we had our first date,
but that actually wasn't the case, and nobody knows this.
So we did it when we did it publicly, when
I finally got our ring. But the truth is, as
I said, the year before, I went to Thailand on
a mind, body spirit journey to really learn how to
do breath work and meditation and heal that little kid
(27:31):
in me. And and I was fighting Muatai and the jungle,
which is fantastic. Oh my god, it was the greatest
thing ever. With my friend Mike Swick, who thought was
the first ultimate fighter and homes a place out there
called Aka Thailand, and another guy named Christian who's from
Sweden who's great kickboxers anyway, But it was really about
I didn't drink any alcohol. I only ate anti inflammatory foods.
(27:53):
I did breathwork and meditation every day. I work with
these monks as my therapists. I did all this and
I'm out there and I took a boat ride one
day and I'm out in the middle of the siamc
in the middle, I mean an hour and a half
away from shore, in the middle of the SIMC and
there's this big rock in the middle there, and some
(28:15):
was sitting and I look up and I kind of
get in the order, and I start having this conversation
with God. I start talking to God and I having
a great moment of healing and peace and some of
the stuff I'm talking about of yeah, you're worthy man,
you just you had to go through this and so
you can help others through there. So it was just
(28:35):
this beautiful moment with God who I felt. I really
felt the love of the universe, and I felt like
I was okay. And I came back and I told
Rosie about it. A year later. This past year, Rosie
comes with me back to the same place in Thailand
called Kamalaya, and I want to her to experience for
my experience it was for her, but I disguise it
(28:55):
and mastered as come out there with me so you
can learn these same things from these bunks, uh, this
breath work and meditation, so you can help me along
with it. I take Rosie out there and she's.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Like, I was like, but this is you know, I'm
doing it.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
But these monks are going to be able to relate
because I was, you know, I'd lost my business and
all this stuff. So I was like, they're not going
to know what you know, But actually it was great.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
They really do. They're very like, yeah, meditation.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Rosie crying like crazy, and I'm like, she's just lost
her mother and she's trying to do with that and
her stores. She's you know, she's you know, close those
stores that we're giving them problems. And it's been a
lot that's gone on in her life. She's got her
condo burned down twice, like not once, but twice. She's
been through a lot, and you shripped her and she
(29:43):
just starts hysterical crying. And then even these these monks
start helping you big time with they're great.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Yeah, they're actually like they give you like these analogies
that you wouldn't like expect, but they're really good.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
They're very good, like that really great.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Like I think I've used it here before. We're like,
for example, Rosie is telling this Monk, yeah, I just
don't feel worthy of you know, Jay's love, like and
all these things.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Crappy things happening to me, like with just everything, everything, everything.
So when the good things start happening at Jay, and
was like, you know, all these good things, they felt
like unworthy or like even worried that, like, oh God,
something bad's gonna happen, you know, because I was in that.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Little that was your story. That was your rack, I story,
it was my racket I was running with.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Bunk says to her, Rosie, what's what's your favorite food?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
And you say that R and D chicken sandwich.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
And then Monk clearly says you love that chicken sandwich.
He says, yeah, you get a great pleasure on that
chicken sandwich. Yeah, when you're eating that chicken sandwiches think
anybody else thinks you shouldn't enjoy that chicken sandwich.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You're not worthy of the chicken sandwich.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
And you said no.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
It was like, she goes, you're just enjoying like, like,
what happens? You know, you get another bite of Are
you worried that the person over at the other tables
thinking that you're not worthy of that chicken sandwich that
you're eating? And I was like no, She goes, you're
just enjoying your chicken sandwich until it's gone.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
And I was like, yeah, I'm doing the pride. And
she's like, well, this is this is this is your life.
This is your life sandwich, So enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Don't don't worry about what anybody else is like over there,
worried that you don't deserve that, or you shouldn't have that,
or the fries, or because you're not thinking that when
you get your favorite milk, you're just eating it and
enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
She's like, that's this. Your life's the chicken.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Your life is the chicken sandwich. And it changed everything
for Rosie.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
She literally looked a love Yeah, that's a really cool
right right, nobody's against me.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
There's nothing against me and she and it changed Rosy
and it changed her so much. I saw this huge change.
I take her on the boat ride totally different boat, coming,
totally different places everything, and all of a sudden we're
getting the sunset, and I look, we come over these
rocks and I look over and I go, oh my god.
(31:51):
We're at the same exact spot I was at last
year when I was having that talk with God. Oh
my god. I never thought i'd see that place again.
Oh my god. So maybe this is place I told
you about. This is the place. This is where I
told you I had that talk with God. She's like, well,
it's literally in the middle of the Siam c and
this like rock comes up, and there could be any
other place. We could have been a different boat company.
(32:12):
We're in the same exact place. And I turned a
Rosie and I said, maybe I promise you I'll always
love you, admire you, appreciate you. Most of all, I
will always take care of you and love you. I
guess I'm asking you to marry me. And she says,
well are you, And I go, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am,
(32:34):
I mean ask you to marry me, like I wan't
expecting it. But it's the same place.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
And what she says, I said, yes.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yes, Well I didn't have a ring, so we had
we had cutlery and there was a string around the cutlery.
So I pulled the string off the cutlery and I
put that on her finger, and she wore that for
a couple of weeks without anybody knowing that we were engaged.
We didn't tell anybody. She had this little piece of
string around her finger. I'm not going to show off
that we I got engaged to Rosie, but a little
piece of string on her finger, I'm gonna look like
(33:03):
the cheapest bastard who ever lived. So it really wasn't
until we went out. We went ring shopping. We did
it all and we got a ring. And then I said,
let's go back to the original spot of our first date.
And I got down on my knee and I did
a proper engagement. That's from the world found out that
we were engaged, But we were actually engaged for.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Two beautiful engagement and one that could only happen like
once in a lifetime and once amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, and you're really amazing too.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Again. This is you know. I hope we've given people hope.
I hope we've given people the ability to say, wow,
that there is It is never too late, and also
know that by a rosy story, it's never too late
to reinvent yourself, never too late to make a change right.
And I hope we've also taught more than anything with
your partner, lean into them and make sure they know
(33:51):
I got you, I'm not going anywhere. I got you,
and really make them understand. And then the other thing
that Rosie and I really do right somewhere lessons. I
am very vocal to Rosie about what I need. Maybe
I need you to hear this, this is what I
need from you, and you listen. And the same thing
(34:11):
she will come to me and say, hey, I'm really
uncomfortable with this, Jay need I need you to hear
me on this. This is what I need from you,
So be very vocal. We hear a lot of couple say, yeah,
he's not going to understand. Yeah, he's not going to listen.
Yeah she won't understand me. You don't know that until
you actually sit down and tell them, Hey, I really
need you to hear me here. I'm in a lot
(34:32):
of pain. And we've had somebody that we knew who's
one of the most beautiful women we've ever seen in
our lives, basically tell us she was about to kill
herself and she's in a happily married relationship. And I say,
he needs to understand your pain, and she said he won't.
I said, well he needs to. You deserve that. And
we called him over and said, hey, man, you need
to read the third chapter of my book that lays
(34:54):
out this is what it feels like to have this
anxiety and this depression, and what it feels like and
what it feels like, just so you understand her, because man,
you deserve to understand her. She deserves for you to
be her best teammate. And he at that time said, oh,
I didn't realize it was this bad. Okay, and did
And you know, they're great, but really a lot of
(35:17):
times people were closest to we hold the most things
back from. Give them the grace of being your best friend,
give them the grace of being your teammate. Really tell
them everything you're going through and don't say, oh, I
don't want to put more on them. No, that's what
marriage is about. That's relationships are about. So you have
the ultimate teammate walking this walk together with you.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
That's great. I love that, so baby. I loved having
you on. I love showing you to the world. It's
been fantastic. Anything else you want to add, if something
you've learned from us, or.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I just think that the communication is really like our
communication the second go around is much better. So like
that's the best thing that we give each other is
like now we're communicating and making sure that we're like
making sure the other one knows like like what you
just said.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah, so it's it's amazing. It's been really good and
I want you.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
To know also, like I've had a lot of miltowns
to you. Has it ever gotten too much?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
No? No, it's no.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
But but if it does, then you know you just
take a little like you know, get a little moment
and then come back and reset.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
But no, it's like, yeah, well my point is people think, oh,
it's be too much and that other person's going to
leave right now.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
No no, yeah, no, yeah, that's that's what you just
have to assure them and reassure the reassure them and
and you know, reassure them because that's.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
That you've been on and off forget together now for
three years and she still reassures me, and she may
have to for the rest of her life.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
And the meltdowns are really part of it. Like so
they make you grow, they make you.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Grow closer because you can make it through it. Because
sometimes people are fearful, like if this happens, the person's
going to break up with you or it's going to
end the thing. But like, bumpy roads just make you stronger.
And if your relationship is not strong enough to make
it through these bumpy roads, then it's not that strong
of a.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Relationship that's make it through the storms through the story. Yeah,
so it's like I start with.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
The bumpy roads and then make sure you get through
those so you could together hold each other's hands and
get through the storms of life. Nobody more than I'd
rather go through these storms of life.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
That is my beautiful fiance, Rosie Tennyson, one half of
the tennis and twins, the better half. Uh, better clean
that up. But also I did. The great part to
me is I do get a sister. Renee has been amazing.
She has been fantastic. And one thing you do is
you don't get between two twins. You make sure that
(37:38):
you follster that relationship more and more and more. They
started in the room and you two were survivors again,
your survivors. You survived that place in Idaho and these
journeys and all these you guys are survivors. You were
the American dream and your mind trip.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Thank you. I love you too, Folks.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
This was the best guest I've ever had, an unbreakable
hope you enjoy it over the holidays, and I hope
we have given you all some hope and some lessons
for you all to walk this walk together.
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kelvin washington
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