January 22, 2024 • 37 mins
Former NFL All-Pro safety Kerry Rhodes is in for Chris, and he and Rob debate whether or not we should be believers in Brock Purdy after his rollercoaster performance in the Divisional round and reveal Rob’s official 2024 Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Plus, author and podcast host Jemele Hill swings by to discuss why it means so much for the city of Detroit to be in the NFC Championship Game, her confidence level in Purdy as a 49ers fan, Kyle Shanahan’s shortcomings as a playcaller and much more!
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always appreciate you jumping in on us and helping us out.
And possibly Chris will be back tomorrow if he's filling up.
To it. If not, maybe you can see what your
schedule is and get you back in it. Maybe I
can stick and stay stick, I said, rob G a video, right,
rob G? Did you see it where I was saying
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stick and state? This is like twenty years ago? Like
like for real, right, rob G.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Everything that you might like on this show, Rob Parker
has done twenty years.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Ago, he did twenty years ago. It's all it's all
pre dated, rob rob G, Rob park How.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Many odd couples have there being robbed? This is only
the second?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Well who started trash talking Tuesday?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
That what about set City? That's new? That's new that
it is new? Save Shekel City. But if something works,
you just keep rolling with it. Why would you go
away from? If works? Man, you know what go away from?
And I'll admit I had a pillow that I slept
with for over twenty five years. They finally convinced me
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to get rid of the pillow like on the radio show,
because I told them I had this pillow from high
school exactly, and they made they made me throw it out.
They were like, rob Dust, Mike, you must all the
stuff that's in it. I had traveled. This pillow traveled
all over the country with me. It was like, because
my neck. If the pillow's too thick, my neck gets
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a crick in it. So it was like this thick
but it had lasted for twenty five years, so finally
I got rid of it.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
If you guys don't you guys can't see what he's doing,
and he's trying to tell you how thick it is.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's it's paper thing. What's really for a pillow? Right?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh well, but the lasted longer than my marriage. I
just want you to know, just the fact you had
to take something with him, yes, I mean not least,
and the pillow didn't complain, so that was okay. All right, Carrie,
let's go here. So rob g you're gonna give us
some numbers rock Purdy the first three quarters. I mean,
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if you're a forty nine Ers fan. And Rich Davis
from Corrino, rich he was having the hardest thing. He's
a big forty nine Ers fan, and Rich Davis said
he was pacing like a mountain lot. He was just
sick because it looked like the forty nine ers were
in trouble, like the Packers if they're kicking and missing
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a couple of kicks right, then he missed two. He
did right, didn he missed one earlier in the game,
and then he missed the I thought he missed it.
I thought he missed two. But anyway, they could have
won that game. Yeah, they really could have won that game.
But brock Perty came up big at the end obviously
and got the touchdown that they needed. They won the game.
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But his numbers, Rob G, you got him well, uneven
absolutely Rob.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
This was the game that every Rock Party fan and
hater lived for because if you don't like Rock Party,
you saw something to validate your your reasons you would
like see I told you, if you love brock Party,
you saw something to validate why you love him. Right
before that final game winning drive, Rock Party was seventeen
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of thirty two.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Fifty three seventeen of thirty two. That is not a
good day.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
At the offense, two hundred and five yards, one touchdown.
He had no picks, but at least two passes that
they document it could have been more. At least two
were deemed dropped interceptions. They were dropped and one would
have been a touchdown. One would have been a pick
six head right in the chest. That's the worst place
they had a defender Kerry.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
When you see that, don't you go like, how did you?
It was like the one that Matthew Stafford got away
with the Rams right with the forty nine.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Like that was a guest guitar is out of the
NFL because that dropped the interception.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
That was a game losing pick. Well. The thing that
I remember that that was, yeah, it was right there.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
The thing that happens with a lot of those quarterbacks
where you're game planning and you probably have your first
ten scripted. You'll see it in practice with the scout
team and it looks one way and it looks like
it's going to be opened all the time. But you
have guys that are actually human beings that are playing
a position that's going to move a little bit in
disguise in the game. He threw that, and he was
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predestined to throw it should have been a pick six.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Bad throw.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
But you have to have instincts of the quarterback and
instincts as a player in the NFL and be able
to move around some of those things that aren't ideal,
and he didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
He didn't, but he.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Did finish strong guys because On that last drive, the
game winning touchdown drive, Rock Party six of seven forty
seven yards. The only incompletion was a drop by George Kittle.
He also rushed twice for eleven yards, one of them
picking up the first down that directly led to Christian
McCaffrey's game winning touchdown drive. So you saw all sides
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of yesterday, all.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Right, but he got it done. And now I ask you,
Carry Rhoades, are you a believer in Brock Party? Now?
Did he show you something that you know people are saying?
Because I still say that if the forty nine ers
don't get to the super Bowl or don't win it,
it's going to be on Rock Party no matter what,
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because they've been to the super Bowl without him, yes,
and all those players and that coach, they all been there.
So that he's a new piece. He has to get
them to the championship game for sure. He can't lose
this round. If we lose to the Lions, they might
run him out of San Francis. Stop it, Rob there,
you're going get no.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I You know what though, I actually I believe in
him after that game, even though it was a bad game,
bad performance for three and a half quarters. What makes
postseason quarterbacks have that lore, have that lasting impact on
your team and your franchise. It's being able to have
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that big final drive, that drive that you know, even
if things aren't going well during during that game, if
my quarterback has the ball last, can he make us?
Can he make us win? Can he make us a
play to get us down there for a game winning drive?
He showed that, he showed through adversity that he still
can show up and get the job done. So, I mean,
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I'm not completely sold on it being a terrible performance.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It wasn't wasn't pretty. Wasn't pretty, wasn't it nice? It
wasn't pretty. But yeah, but do you have any reservations
because that offense was not impressive for three quarters and
the Packers had a real chance to win that game?
Oh yeah, man, and and and the Packers. I saw
stat they've given up so many playoff games where they
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led with five minutes to go. It's like four or
five games like you were talking about. I can't believe,
Aaron Rodgerson. There were four or five games where if
the defense could have got a stop, he was going
to the super Bowl. Happened, It happened. To Seattle. In
the Seattle the next year against the Cardinals, he didn't
even touch the ball. I don't think if you remember
that right in that game against the Cardinals, they got
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the ball first, they drove down. He didn't even get
the ball. And I think in four or five of
Aaron Rodgers playoff losses, the defense gave up forty points,
all right, Like you can't win playoff games like that.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Yeah, it was a lot of a lot of failed
Aaron Rodgers moments were because of the defense, for sure,
But this one. I mean, talking about San fran and
just how as a talk about being a complete team,
we thought that was them, and we thought that Purdy
was just you know, being carried by the talent that
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they's so much talent, so much talent. But he's shown
up and he's done well enough for me to say
the kid can play. But again, and adversity strikes for everybody.
He had adversity in this game. Wasn't wasn't pretty. He
got the job done when they counted, So I'm not
scared of him yet, but he needs to prove it
this round to get to the next round. To really
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submit my love for him.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I'll say this, I think San Francisco forty nine Er
fans or shaken in their boothing so only because that
game against the Packers shouldn't have been that close. They
shouldn't have needed a game winning drive to beat the Packers.
The Packers were nine to eight, Let's just be honest, right,
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And I know they blew out Dallas. And I wonder,
really was that the Packers or how bad Dallas was
in that game because we saw the same exact thing.
Was it the Browns or was it the Texans? Because
all of a sudden when the Texans played the Big Boys.
If you're a fan of the forty nine Ers and
you saw what the Ravens did compared to what your
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team did, you don't feel as good, do you know
what I mean this? Yeah, those are the two number
one seeds, and those are the two best teams in
the league and all that, and one team put the
hammer down on their opponent and you needed a touchdown,
not even a field You need a touchdown to beat
the Packers at home.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah, No, that's cause for concern for sure. But I
think we already know seeing those two teams had to
head that San Francisco is a tier down from Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I agree. I don't think going into that month that
was a Christmas night. I don't think going in we
thought that we did not because I thought, this is
kind of a schedule loss for Baltimore flying cross country
Christmas night, you know what I mean, Like, God, we
play on Christmas and all the way in San Francisco
from the East coast. Like, there's a lot of things
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that play into a carry. You know, you've done travel,
and there's certain games and places where it just makes
it harder to win.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
It's hard to Yeah, I mean, going into that game,
I thought it would be. I still thought it would
be a close game. I know how connected and how
determined Baltimore is to prove people wrong right now, and
so you know, at this point where they are, I
just think their chip is a little bit bigger than
San Francisco's right now. And I think that showed for
them in that game this past weekend where San Francisco
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they ran into a buzzsau in green Bay.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
That's really confident.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
But also just the style of play that Green Bay
went into that game with made it difficult for San France.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
See, I think, and going forward for brock Purty. It's
not fair, but it is what he has to play under.
Oh yeah, is that people will always question until he
actually gets them to the super Bowl or wins the
Super Bowl, There'll always be questions.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
And we talk about that part of for sant Franz,
with so much history and so much lower of that franchise. Right,
you had you go back all the way to the nineties,
right and talk about Steve Young.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
He had to do it too. He had to prove
it as much as he was already knew he was good.
Joe Montana was four and zero exactly in the Super
Bowl and he couldn't get past Dallas and Green Bay
at that time. But he won.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
He beat Dallas, beat Green Bay, took the Monkey office
back and won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
So we got to give him, give him a chance. Yeah,
this is gonna be interesting. And and the other thing
too is with brock Purdy, is you know, I think
this was good the comeback ability for him because everybody
was Basically he's a front running quarterback. He always you're
up by two touchdowns. Yeah, it's easy, you know what
I mean to play under those circumstances, But can you
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come back when you really need it, and he got
that in this first one. And you know this this
playoff run and not just him, his head coach as well. Yeah,
he's he's at records in big games. My god.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And I mean, Shannon, at some point, you gotta win
a big game too, Yes, he does, because he choked
down that Super Bowl. Like I still to this day,
can never get over that game. Uh, Julio Jones made
an unbelievable do you remember Julio Jones made an unbelievable
catch on third down set up first and goal of
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the twenty two And nobody won't ever remember that play
and that situation because they didn't run the ball and
set they were already in field goal. All they had
to do was run the ball three straight times, eat
up the clock, the entire play clock, kick a field goal.
You're up by eleven, give the ball back to Brady.
You can't lose. And somehow they didn't win that game.
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I know, it doesn't even.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Make any sense, No, it was, it was. It was
a sad moment for Falcons fans universally. I mean they
talk about that still to this day, and it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Just it just it doesn't even make sense. I would
trust me if I were a Falcon, the Falcons fan,
I would have kicked the TV set it.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I wouldn't even I wouldn't even hire a Belichick because
I'd be so so upset about that man.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That would be sick. All right, are you a believer
in brock Purty? Now we'll continue the conversation next with
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first your phone calls eight seven to seven ninety nine
on Fox. Are you a believer in brock Purty? After
that comeback performance and touchdown to win the game and
send the forty nine ers into the NFC Championship Game?
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, we got Sean
from Sacramento. You on with the option on what's up? Buddy?
Speaker 7 (15:59):
Yeah, ome ago from another mother, mister Carrie Rose, thank
you for pench hitting. Man. We back, we back across
the Pacific ride Man, we back in California, Mayor.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
How was your trip in the Philippines?
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Absolutely beautiful man. My daughter got to meet both of
her grandma's eighty five and ninety one blessing Man. They
couldn't believe how big she is already and how big
I got. So, you know, it's a little bit of
a little going on too. But on this topic, man,
in the words of the great Rob Parker, it's a
short menu. All Brock does is win, man, and I
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get I get it. It was ugly. I contribute a lot
of that to Russ. The entire team looked really bad.
But I think for Niners Nation, the bigger issue I've
been hearing is this run defense. Let Aaron Jones put
up over what one hundred and fifty yards? All the
teams left in the playoffs, between the Detroit Lions, La
Marvelous and the Ravens, and even the Kansas City Chiefs
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and Isaiah Pacheco, they're all running teams. So to me,
that's gonna be you going to.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Run the ball. I'm with you on that, yes, sir,
no doubt appreciated. Sean. Thanks for the call eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
We got Andre from Massachusetts. You owned with the ACA.
How are you doing, brother Drey?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
What up?
Speaker 8 (17:16):
What's going on?
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Listen?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
That was an ensemble performance from Rock Purty. Okay, leading
the Niners to get them into the NFC Championship Game. Okay,
but that was the appetizer, right. The main there is
to see if he can really get this team into
a super Bowl and outduel Jared Goff, who is the
antithesis of Brock Purdy because he's the number one overall
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pick and Brock thirty was the last tech mister irrelevant.
So if he can go toe to toe with somebody
whose courts talent everybody agreed is at the other end
of the spectrum from him, but his work, ethic, intangible,
all those other pseudo kind of attributes that he has,
then if he gets the forty nine ers to the
Super Bowl, that in and of itself getting them there,
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he might not be ready to go toe to toe
with the Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jacksons to actually get
them a championship. But I think he's now at the
big boy table, can put himself in that second tier,
or he's not in the first year, he's not going
to be in the.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
First No no, no, no no. I agree with that.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
An elite quarterback that has to get his respect, and
we can take off the asterisk when we refer to
him in that rare fight.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But I would be I would be a little afraid that,
you know, like it took the three quarters to get there.
You know, he got there and that's fine, but it
was a little scary as as forty nine fans because
they were just behind the whole game. It just felt like, right,
it had to be scary for sure.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I mean that's it's the human nature of when those
games get tight, anything can happen about your way.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, we got Sergio
from southern California, you know, with the odds couple. Man,
what's up, Sergio?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Gentlemen, I hope you guys are healthy and blessed.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
No doubt, Thank you, Rob.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
And I'd be lying to you man if I said
that I wasn't shaking in my boots.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I gotta tell you, brock is not the person that
I have lost or wavered on. I think brock has
showed that he has the guts and the mental capability
to look straight down into the middle of play and
throw the ball. It's a linebacker in his face on
whatever time right. And of course he played a bad game.
But this has more to do with Kyle Shanahan. Okay,
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he's the one who has me shaken in my boots.
He comes out on a rainy game, he sees that
his quarterback can't grip the ball. They all have to
change cleets after the first drive. The whole office and defense,
he doesn't have him prepared, and he has brock Perty
throwing the ball thirty nine times. It makes no sense
sometimes why he gets so cute with his game plans.
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But he's the one that I'm afraid of. He's the
one who shoots himself in the leg and makes the
rest of the team hold the team back. So brock
Perty's not the one that I waiver on. Kyle is
the one that I have to think twice about every
Nineer fan. No, this is the trauma, but we have
to see twice about the decision he made. Sometimes no
matter what the playoff run.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Is, I hear you, I mean, we we it's funny.
We talked about Kyle Shanahan during a commercial break and
all those bad moments. What does m beat happen to me?
He got seventy, now he's got he's up to seventy
with a minute and twenty to go, minute twenty something? Okay,
eight seven, seven ninety nine on five? Oh? Is that
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it trending? We're gonna trend all right, thanks guy, We
appreciate it, Thank you, all right. Coming up next, our
friend Jamel Hill joins us here on the Odd Couple.
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Speaker 1 (20:55):
Rob Parker carry Rhoades in for Chris Bussar coming to
you live from the tire Rack dot com studios. A
friend of the show, someone I've known since she was
in high school. My god, she's so talented. She's so wonderful.
Jamel Hill, of course, a writer at the Atlantic and
author of podcast host All That and much more from
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Detroit and the biggest forty nine er fan going. So
I know she's sick. Come this weekend. What's up, Jamel?
Say hi to Carrie.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
Yeah, hey Carrie, and Rob is always so good to
catch up with you.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
How are you.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I'm doing great, hey, Jamel Royalty.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Glad to hear from no doubt. Hey we go back.
I told Carry the story when you yelled at me
the first time I ever met you, with sixteen only
Jamel could do it. The first day as a columnist
at the Free Press, of course, Jamel I wrote some
controversial column that people didn't like, so they were calling
the paper and Jamel was answering the phone. So I
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show up that afternoon and she says, it's about time
you got here. You can start picking up some of
these phonecals. Crazy, all right, Jabelle. Let's talk about the football,
and of course you grew up in Detroit, born in Detroit,
and the Lions and their success. I know your family
back in friends in Detroit. People are just going crazy
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about the Lion.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
I mean, it's really right in my own house. My
husband is also from Detroit and he's a life long
Lion fan, so he's been with them through all the suffering,
and so I'm happy for him to have this moment
and to finally understand what real winning feels like. But
unfortunately my household is in complete disarray because I'm a
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forty nine Ers fan. He is a Lions fan, and
he threw as soon as the Lions won. I mean,
it was just like he had all of his trash
talk saved in draft. So I have had to hear
it NonStop, and I am just I'm amused by it,
because you know, people have been like, like, are you going
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to switch a legion to from betread? I'm like, I
haven't been a Lions fan ever, Like I've been a
forty nine Ers fan since the early eighties, so like
to switch now just because they're good would just feel
very disingenuous to me. Like I wasn't with y'all through
O sixteen. I wasn't with y'all in the er couple days.
I wasn't with y'all, you know, through many of the
through Matt Miller, none of that. Like, so I couldn't
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delight and I couldn't experience the pain, So why would
I delight in this success? And so, you know, and
then as I told my husband. I was like, it's cute.
I was like, you know, one of their comforts I
had as a forty nine Ers fan is frankly, I
never thought the Lions would be in our way for anything.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You sound like Rob, Rob, it's almost to the point
where it's bitter now.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
No, I'm not Jamel Jamelle. I covered those games for
twenty years, so you know exactly like.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
People like I think the people that have not experienced,
like somebody sent to me on social media today, they
were like, oh, but they made the playoffs like six
or seven times and all this. I was like, they
were totally irrelevant in the two thousands from you know,
really like in the early eighties they had like they
would have sleeping successes. But even with those years where
they would go like nine and seven or you might
see an occasional Tennisien six, the level of incompetence within
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the organization was so dysfunctional that you knew this team
is not going anywhere. And you know, look, they broke
Barry Sanders for crying out loud.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Like we know the story.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
So this organization has had this very big cloud of
an aptitude, incompetence, bad decisions, bad draft picks. They've had
all the things that have gone wrong. So for the
people who have been with this team throughout all of that,
this is an unbelievable moment for me, and I am
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truly happy for them, and more importantly, I'm happy for
this city.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, we know Barry had to get get on that
flight and go to the UK to get out of here.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
But don't forget Colvin Johnson dipped two Hall of Famous
walk out on the Organs exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
But no, Jamelle, I want to talk about the game
a little bit because obviously, you know, during the season,
everybody was high on San Fran. They were the team
to beat, they were the number one seed throughout you know,
people had that feeling about them as a team. They
had the big loss against Baltimore where we think, you know,
Baltimore overtook them as a number one team in the league,
and right now, the way they're playing, we can kind
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of I think it's safe to say Baltimore is probably
the best team in the league at this moment. But
talking about San Fran and Pardy, are you worried about
Perdy right now? Are you worried about that team being
able to get over this hump and make it to
the championship game and actually win a championship with Perdy
as a guy.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
That's right, there were three bad quarters, Jamal. I know
you weren't feeling too good most of that game.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
Well actually, I know a lot of people look at
it negatively and I understand.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
I understand that, But.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
I actually thought this weekend with a huge growth moment
for him. You know, people have to remember he's still young.
This is only his second years to start, and when
he made those mistakes early particularly well, I should say
almost mistakes, because when he almost threw that pick six,
like right away, you could tell that that really shocked him.
There was a lot of pressure on San Francisco in
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this game. You're the number one speed. You've had two
weeks off. Green Bay was hot and honestly, Jordan.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Love is the real deal.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
And watching how much progression the Packers had the last
two months of the season. I remember they beat the Lions. Okay,
so like this team, that team that wasn't your normal
low seated you know, team like the put it like this.
We would rather had We would have rather had the
Bucks than have the Packers. And I promise you at
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the Packers place the Lions again, they would have struggled
and they might have messed around and lost again. Seriously,
that team, that team is no joke. So but the
growth moment was the fact that he collected himself and
he finally got over the hump of winning a game
where he was down and where we need to have it.
And that's an important moment, I think for anybody who
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wants to be a serious player in this league, because
so much of what athletes to do is by muscle memory,
and that's mental muscle memory as well. If you know
you've done it before, it gives you the confidence to
do it again. He had never done it before.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
He never brought us back before.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
And even though he almost did it against Cleveland, and
really that was just about a missfield goal, but nevertheless,
he still didn't make enough play throughout the game to
put him in a more decisive position. But as we
seek in Cleveland, they have one of the best defensive
in the league, so it's not like that he lost
to some flouch But I say all that to say
is that I think getting over the hump of winning
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when you were supposed to winning in the first round
round and now facing this part, I expect, particularly since
the weather is supposed to be good, that brock Party
will be a lot more comfortable than he looked this
past weekend. Now, let's just keep it real. Of all
the quarterbacks left, brock Perty is the worst one in
the group. Okay, and by.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Worse, but no, no, no, that's fair. Jared Goff went
to a super Bowl, right, yes, correct, It's like.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
He's the least experience. He is the quote worst and
I put that in quote because he's certainly not a
bad He's certainly not a bad quarterback. And I really
hate that people have used his success to take off
on him. I'm like, guys, he was the last stick
in the draft for a reason. Okay, Lamark Jackson was
a Heisman Trophy winner. Patrick Mahomes basically owns the AFC.
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I mean, Jared Golf, as you put it, has been
to the Super Bowl and the last year and a half,
he has proven that he's a competent, capable, good quarterback
in this league. Of the four, if we're doing the draft,
you're probably picking rock Perty last. And that's okay. That
doesn't mean that he's not the guy who can't win,
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who can't win the Super Bowl. Listen, three years ago
when the forty nine Ers played the Chiefs in the
Super Bowl, should have won that game, up on the
up on the Chiefs and Kyle Shanahan unfortunately did the
same thing that he did when he was coordinator.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
And yes, he did the same thing.
Speaker 9 (29:06):
It's like, we didn't run the ball. We're averaging like
eight nine yards.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Not run the ball.
Speaker 9 (29:12):
Okay, that's why we lost. So I think right now
in San Francisco, the sense of urgency is there. They
know that this team only has so short of a window.
You've been to a few NFC Championship games. Now time
to get number six.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Caiot, point blank, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
One last thing, Jamel, we got about thirty or forty seconds.
Do you feel for the people in Buffalo. I've changed
the name of the city to a wide right New York.
My god, Jamel, if you're a Bills fan, you got
to be sick. Another missfield goal in their history.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
You do have to be sick. But I do think
and listen, I know that you almost now that. I
don't know how Josh Allen became the polarizing player of
the moment, but he is and there were just throws
and things that he he didn't do in that game
that they should have won. They should have been in
a position a better position to win. I mean, I
know it's a field goal, but it's buffalo, you know
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the elements. I know it's just cold, but I do
feel like in many respects he cost him that game.
He would not He just won't take the conservative player
to live to fight another down.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
He just won't do it.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
And it's like sometimes you have to do that in
order to get to where you want to go. And
I think he's still maturing, and I hope that that
was a lesson for him, because if you know, he's
about to carry the cloud that Peyton Manning here for
a long time, can't be Tom Brady, and right now
for him, cannot be Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
No doubt. Her name is Jamel Hill. Check her out
in The Atlantic of course, the author, podcast host as well,
and the friend of mine. They're great, no doubt, Jamel,
Thank you appreciate it. Chris is under the weather. Next
time we talk to you, he'll be here, all right.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
Tell him, I said, what's up and get to talk
to you.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Guess absolutely, Thanks Jamel, all right. Coming up next, guess
what Tomorrow is the announcement of the Baseball Hall of Fame,
And I'm going to give you my ballad. I'm gonna
tell you who I voted for that and much more,
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if you're flipping around, I'll be on tomorrow for that.
And you know, I have a Hall of Fame vote.
It is my most prized possession. I don't have any
kids like Rob G. Rob G has a daughter, that's right,
that's his most prize possession. For me, it's my Baseball
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Hall of Fame vote. That's all I have. Hey, that's
big time though, man. And I am voter number seventy
and the BBDA when I started my career number five
sixty nine. So look at how far I've dropped down.
I don't know if I really want number one, you
know what I mean on that car that might be
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two one. You don't want that one, nah, I mean
he won't be a round long. But anyway, here it is.
You get ten votes. Carry only voted for two people.
Adrian Beltrey, I think he's a lock. Thirty over thirty
one hundred hits. Three thousand hits is a benchmark, is
a magic number for yours truly, And I've voted for
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Gary Sheffield five hundred and nine home runs five hundred
is another bench mark. There are a lot of good
players on this list. I know people think Joe Morrow
will get in the catcher from the Twins. He's trending
that way people. Some people want Billy Wagner, the closer,
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Andrew Jones who won all those gold gloves with the
Atlanta Braves. Those guys, to me fall in the hall
are very good. I really believe that if there's a
debate about your career, you're not a Hall of Fame.
Yeah that too? Is that too stringent or too hard?
Do you see what I'm saying? Like, like I take
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it to the extreme. If I say to you, Hank Aaron,
is there a debate? No, that's where the Hall of
Fame should be the best of the best on questioned
And and I know that's gonna leave a lot of
people out who have really good careers, very good careers,
it is, but it's not the Hall of very good.
So it's all about numbers for you. And well, I'm.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
The numbers are big exactly because I'm like in basketball,
right or football, like you have these guys that are
on the cuss, but they've won three Super Bowls. Eli
Manning for example. Right, I don't think it's a Hall
of Famer myself, but see you know why why And.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I'm gonna tell you, yeah, because you're right, he didn't
have great regular but he won two Super Bowls and
he beat the Patriots twice and he has two signature
throws and two big games. You gotta admit that way,
and it's true.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
So when you say just the numbers for you in baseball,
there are benchmark numbers, right, that automatically gets you in.
So what if those numbers are they don't have all three,
they have one of them?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
No, No, But that's what I'm saying. So that's why
it's not for me. If you have those, it's automatic
you get my vote and other people. You gotta look
at everything, what they do in the postseason, did they
win World Series? What you know, like whatever that league
MVP like you need to be like the greatest player,
like who is out there in your position at that time. Right,
(35:45):
I'm a tough voter, but you gotta stick to you
gotta stick to your morals. Yeah, because that's do I
want it to be a hard place to get in.
I don't think the Pro Football Hall of Fame and
definitely not the Basketball of Fame are hard. I don't
think it nearly has artist baseball. Would you agree with that? No,
I agree with that one hundred percent. Basketball, they put
anybody in, I don't even know what the criteria.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I mean they're talking about to Mars Stidam maybe being
all and I love him, so I'm not talking bad
about him, but yeah, he's not.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Tracy mcgrady's a Hall of Fame. He made it out
of first round of playoffs. I think one time exactly,
or did he ever? I don't know. I just I
don't think he ever made it one time? One time?
Was it one time with the Spurs? And I'm not
saying he couldn't play or won a very good player
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or anything. I just think the Hall of Fame should
be for the best of the best. You think it's sacred, Yes,
I do, And I'm gonna as long as I have
a vote, as long as I'm around. I'm gonna make
sure that only the greatest of the great kid it.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
You're gonna be alone, You're gonna be long. You're gonna
be here long enough to be number one, So we'll
I don't.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Want to be number one. Number seventy. I think that's good.
All right again, another show Kerry Rose as a pincher
or guess what, you hit it out the park. Let's
do it. I don't know. They proved the fastball. He
hit it out the park. Hey, I'm almost.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I'm two thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine more away
from being there.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Right, Oh, we got one, no doubt. Kerry Roads filling in.
Hopefully Chris Bussoto feel good. Tomorrow we'll have him back
on the show. If not, we'll see if Kerry's available again.
Thanks everybody else, Rob g Iowa, Sam and of course
Steve de Sega. All right, stick and stay more. Fox
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for Chris Bussard under the weather today. Thanks Carrie, we
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always appreciate you jumping in on us and helping us out.
And possibly Chris will be back tomorrow if he's filling up.
To it. If not, maybe you can see what your
schedule is and get you back in it. Maybe I
can stick and stay stick, I said, rob G a video, right,
rob G? Did you see it where I was saying
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stick and state? This is like twenty years ago? Like
like for real, right, rob G.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Everything that you might like on this show, Rob Parker
has done twenty years.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Ago, he did twenty years ago. It's all it's all
pre dated, rob rob G, Rob park How.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Many odd couples have there being robbed? This is only
the second?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Well who started trash talking Tuesday?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
That what about set City? That's new? That's new that
it is new? Save Shekel City. But if something works,
you just keep rolling with it. Why would you go
away from? If works? Man, you know what go away from?
And I'll admit I had a pillow that I slept
with for over twenty five years. They finally convinced me
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to get rid of the pillow like on the radio show,
because I told them I had this pillow from high
school exactly, and they made they made me throw it out.
They were like, rob Dust, Mike, you must all the
stuff that's in it. I had traveled. This pillow traveled
all over the country with me. It was like, because
my neck. If the pillow's too thick, my neck gets
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a crick in it. So it was like this thick
but it had lasted for twenty five years, so finally
I got rid of it.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
If you guys don't you guys can't see what he's doing,
and he's trying to tell you how thick it is.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's it's paper thing. What's really for a pillow? Right?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh well, but the lasted longer than my marriage. I
just want you to know, just the fact you had
to take something with him, yes, I mean not least,
and the pillow didn't complain, so that was okay. All right, Carrie,
let's go here. So rob g you're gonna give us
some numbers rock Purdy the first three quarters. I mean,
(03:18):
if you're a forty nine Ers fan. And Rich Davis
from Corrino, rich he was having the hardest thing. He's
a big forty nine Ers fan, and Rich Davis said
he was pacing like a mountain lot. He was just
sick because it looked like the forty nine ers were
in trouble, like the Packers if they're kicking and missing
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a couple of kicks right, then he missed two. He
did right, didn he missed one earlier in the game,
and then he missed the I thought he missed it.
I thought he missed two. But anyway, they could have
won that game. Yeah, they really could have won that game.
But brock Perty came up big at the end obviously
and got the touchdown that they needed. They won the game.
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But his numbers, Rob G, you got him well, uneven
absolutely Rob.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
This was the game that every Rock Party fan and
hater lived for because if you don't like Rock Party,
you saw something to validate your your reasons you would
like see I told you, if you love brock Party,
you saw something to validate why you love him. Right
before that final game winning drive, Rock Party was seventeen
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of thirty two.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Fifty three seventeen of thirty two. That is not a
good day.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
At the offense, two hundred and five yards, one touchdown.
He had no picks, but at least two passes that
they document it could have been more. At least two
were deemed dropped interceptions. They were dropped and one would
have been a touchdown. One would have been a pick
six head right in the chest. That's the worst place
they had a defender Kerry.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
When you see that, don't you go like, how did you?
It was like the one that Matthew Stafford got away
with the Rams right with the forty nine.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Like that was a guest guitar is out of the
NFL because that dropped the interception.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
That was a game losing pick. Well. The thing that
I remember that that was, yeah, it was right there.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
The thing that happens with a lot of those quarterbacks
where you're game planning and you probably have your first
ten scripted. You'll see it in practice with the scout
team and it looks one way and it looks like
it's going to be opened all the time. But you
have guys that are actually human beings that are playing
a position that's going to move a little bit in
disguise in the game. He threw that, and he was
(05:24):
predestined to throw it should have been a pick six.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Bad throw.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
But you have to have instincts of the quarterback and
instincts as a player in the NFL and be able
to move around some of those things that aren't ideal,
and he didn't.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
He didn't, but he.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Did finish strong guys because On that last drive, the
game winning touchdown drive, Rock Party six of seven forty
seven yards. The only incompletion was a drop by George Kittle.
He also rushed twice for eleven yards, one of them
picking up the first down that directly led to Christian
McCaffrey's game winning touchdown drive. So you saw all sides
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of yesterday, all.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Right, but he got it done. And now I ask you,
Carry Rhoades, are you a believer in Brock Party? Now?
Did he show you something that you know people are saying?
Because I still say that if the forty nine ers
don't get to the super Bowl or don't win it,
it's going to be on Rock Party no matter what,
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because they've been to the super Bowl without him, yes,
and all those players and that coach, they all been there.
So that he's a new piece. He has to get
them to the championship game for sure. He can't lose
this round. If we lose to the Lions, they might
run him out of San Francis. Stop it, Rob there,
you're going get no.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I You know what though, I actually I believe in
him after that game, even though it was a bad game,
bad performance for three and a half quarters. What makes
postseason quarterbacks have that lore, have that lasting impact on
your team and your franchise. It's being able to have
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that big final drive, that drive that you know, even
if things aren't going well during during that game, if
my quarterback has the ball last, can he make us?
Can he make us win? Can he make us a
play to get us down there for a game winning drive?
He showed that, he showed through adversity that he still
can show up and get the job done. So, I mean,
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I'm not completely sold on it being a terrible performance.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It wasn't wasn't pretty. Wasn't pretty, wasn't it nice? It
wasn't pretty. But yeah, but do you have any reservations
because that offense was not impressive for three quarters and
the Packers had a real chance to win that game?
Oh yeah, man, and and and the Packers. I saw
stat they've given up so many playoff games where they
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led with five minutes to go. It's like four or
five games like you were talking about. I can't believe,
Aaron Rodgerson. There were four or five games where if
the defense could have got a stop, he was going
to the super Bowl. Happened, It happened. To Seattle. In
the Seattle the next year against the Cardinals, he didn't
even touch the ball. I don't think if you remember
that right in that game against the Cardinals, they got
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the ball first, they drove down. He didn't even get
the ball. And I think in four or five of
Aaron Rodgers playoff losses, the defense gave up forty points,
all right, Like you can't win playoff games like that.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Yeah, it was a lot of a lot of failed
Aaron Rodgers moments were because of the defense, for sure,
But this one. I mean, talking about San fran and
just how as a talk about being a complete team,
we thought that was them, and we thought that Purdy
was just you know, being carried by the talent that
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they's so much talent, so much talent. But he's shown
up and he's done well enough for me to say
the kid can play. But again, and adversity strikes for everybody.
He had adversity in this game. Wasn't wasn't pretty. He
got the job done when they counted, So I'm not
scared of him yet, but he needs to prove it
this round to get to the next round. To really
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submit my love for him.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I'll say this, I think San Francisco forty nine Er
fans or shaken in their boothing so only because that
game against the Packers shouldn't have been that close. They
shouldn't have needed a game winning drive to beat the Packers.
The Packers were nine to eight, Let's just be honest, right,
(09:35):
And I know they blew out Dallas. And I wonder,
really was that the Packers or how bad Dallas was
in that game because we saw the same exact thing.
Was it the Browns or was it the Texans? Because
all of a sudden when the Texans played the Big Boys.
If you're a fan of the forty nine Ers and
you saw what the Ravens did compared to what your
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team did, you don't feel as good, do you know
what I mean this? Yeah, those are the two number
one seeds, and those are the two best teams in
the league and all that, and one team put the
hammer down on their opponent and you needed a touchdown,
not even a field You need a touchdown to beat
the Packers at home.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah, No, that's cause for concern for sure. But I
think we already know seeing those two teams had to
head that San Francisco is a tier down from Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I agree. I don't think going into that month that
was a Christmas night. I don't think going in we
thought that we did not because I thought, this is
kind of a schedule loss for Baltimore flying cross country
Christmas night, you know what I mean, Like, God, we
play on Christmas and all the way in San Francisco
from the East coast. Like, there's a lot of things
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that play into a carry. You know, you've done travel,
and there's certain games and places where it just makes
it harder to win.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
It's hard to Yeah, I mean, going into that game,
I thought it would be. I still thought it would
be a close game. I know how connected and how
determined Baltimore is to prove people wrong right now, and
so you know, at this point where they are, I
just think their chip is a little bit bigger than
San Francisco's right now. And I think that showed for
them in that game this past weekend where San Francisco
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they ran into a buzzsau in green Bay.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
That's really confident.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
But also just the style of play that Green Bay
went into that game with made it difficult for San France.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
See, I think, and going forward for brock Purty. It's
not fair, but it is what he has to play under.
Oh yeah, is that people will always question until he
actually gets them to the super Bowl or wins the
Super Bowl, There'll always be questions.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
And we talk about that part of for sant Franz,
with so much history and so much lower of that franchise. Right,
you had you go back all the way to the nineties,
right and talk about Steve Young.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
He had to do it too. He had to prove
it as much as he was already knew he was good.
Joe Montana was four and zero exactly in the Super
Bowl and he couldn't get past Dallas and Green Bay
at that time. But he won.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
He beat Dallas, beat Green Bay, took the Monkey office
back and won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
So we got to give him, give him a chance. Yeah,
this is gonna be interesting. And and the other thing
too is with brock Purdy, is you know, I think
this was good the comeback ability for him because everybody
was Basically he's a front running quarterback. He always you're
up by two touchdowns. Yeah, it's easy, you know what
I mean to play under those circumstances, But can you
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come back when you really need it, and he got
that in this first one. And you know this this
playoff run and not just him, his head coach as well. Yeah,
he's he's at records in big games. My god.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And I mean, Shannon, at some point, you gotta win
a big game too, Yes, he does, because he choked
down that Super Bowl. Like I still to this day,
can never get over that game. Uh, Julio Jones made
an unbelievable do you remember Julio Jones made an unbelievable
catch on third down set up first and goal of
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the twenty two And nobody won't ever remember that play
and that situation because they didn't run the ball and
set they were already in field goal. All they had
to do was run the ball three straight times, eat
up the clock, the entire play clock, kick a field goal.
You're up by eleven, give the ball back to Brady.
You can't lose. And somehow they didn't win that game.
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I know, it doesn't even.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Make any sense, No, it was, it was. It was
a sad moment for Falcons fans universally. I mean they
talk about that still to this day, and it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Just it just it doesn't even make sense. I would
trust me if I were a Falcon, the Falcons fan,
I would have kicked the TV set it.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I wouldn't even I wouldn't even hire a Belichick because
I'd be so so upset about that man.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That would be sick. All right, are you a believer
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first your phone calls eight seven to seven ninety nine
on Fox. Are you a believer in brock Purty? After
that comeback performance and touchdown to win the game and
send the forty nine ers into the NFC Championship Game?
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, we got Sean
from Sacramento. You on with the option on what's up? Buddy?
Speaker 7 (15:59):
Yeah, ome ago from another mother, mister Carrie Rose, thank
you for pench hitting. Man. We back, we back across
the Pacific ride Man, we back in California, Mayor.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
How was your trip in the Philippines?
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Absolutely beautiful man. My daughter got to meet both of
her grandma's eighty five and ninety one blessing Man. They
couldn't believe how big she is already and how big
I got. So, you know, it's a little bit of
a little going on too. But on this topic, man,
in the words of the great Rob Parker, it's a
short menu. All Brock does is win, man, and I
(16:33):
get I get it. It was ugly. I contribute a lot
of that to Russ. The entire team looked really bad.
But I think for Niners Nation, the bigger issue I've
been hearing is this run defense. Let Aaron Jones put
up over what one hundred and fifty yards? All the
teams left in the playoffs, between the Detroit Lions, La
Marvelous and the Ravens, and even the Kansas City Chiefs
(16:55):
and Isaiah Pacheco, they're all running teams. So to me,
that's gonna be you going to.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Run the ball. I'm with you on that, yes, sir,
no doubt appreciated. Sean. Thanks for the call eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
We got Andre from Massachusetts. You owned with the ACA.
How are you doing, brother Drey?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
What up?
Speaker 8 (17:16):
What's going on?
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Listen?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
That was an ensemble performance from Rock Purty. Okay, leading
the Niners to get them into the NFC Championship Game. Okay,
but that was the appetizer, right. The main there is
to see if he can really get this team into
a super Bowl and outduel Jared Goff, who is the
antithesis of Brock Purdy because he's the number one overall
(17:40):
pick and Brock thirty was the last tech mister irrelevant.
So if he can go toe to toe with somebody
whose courts talent everybody agreed is at the other end
of the spectrum from him, but his work, ethic, intangible,
all those other pseudo kind of attributes that he has,
then if he gets the forty nine ers to the
Super Bowl, that in and of itself getting them there,
(18:02):
he might not be ready to go toe to toe
with the Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jacksons to actually get
them a championship. But I think he's now at the
big boy table, can put himself in that second tier,
or he's not in the first year, he's not going
to be in the.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
First No no, no, no no. I agree with that.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
An elite quarterback that has to get his respect, and
we can take off the asterisk when we refer to
him in that rare fight.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But I would be I would be a little afraid that,
you know, like it took the three quarters to get there.
You know, he got there and that's fine, but it
was a little scary as as forty nine fans because
they were just behind the whole game. It just felt like, right,
it had to be scary for sure.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I mean that's it's the human nature of when those
games get tight, anything can happen about your way.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, we got Sergio
from southern California, you know, with the odds couple. Man,
what's up, Sergio?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Gentlemen, I hope you guys are healthy and blessed.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
No doubt, Thank you, Rob.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
And I'd be lying to you man if I said
that I wasn't shaking in my boots.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I gotta tell you, brock is not the person that
I have lost or wavered on. I think brock has
showed that he has the guts and the mental capability
to look straight down into the middle of play and
throw the ball. It's a linebacker in his face on
whatever time right. And of course he played a bad game.
But this has more to do with Kyle Shanahan. Okay,
(19:31):
he's the one who has me shaken in my boots.
He comes out on a rainy game, he sees that
his quarterback can't grip the ball. They all have to
change cleets after the first drive. The whole office and defense,
he doesn't have him prepared, and he has brock Perty
throwing the ball thirty nine times. It makes no sense
sometimes why he gets so cute with his game plans.
(19:52):
But he's the one that I'm afraid of. He's the
one who shoots himself in the leg and makes the
rest of the team hold the team back. So brock
Perty's not the one that I waiver on. Kyle is
the one that I have to think twice about every
Nineer fan. No, this is the trauma, but we have
to see twice about the decision he made. Sometimes no
matter what the playoff run.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Is, I hear you, I mean, we we it's funny.
We talked about Kyle Shanahan during a commercial break and
all those bad moments. What does m beat happen to me?
He got seventy, now he's got he's up to seventy
with a minute and twenty to go, minute twenty something? Okay,
eight seven, seven ninety nine on five? Oh? Is that
(20:33):
it trending? We're gonna trend all right, thanks guy, We
appreciate it, Thank you, all right. Coming up next, our
friend Jamel Hill joins us here on the Odd Couple.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
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Speaker 1 (20:55):
Rob Parker carry Rhoades in for Chris Bussar coming to
you live from the tire Rack dot com studios. A
friend of the show, someone I've known since she was
in high school. My god, she's so talented. She's so wonderful.
Jamel Hill, of course, a writer at the Atlantic and
author of podcast host All That and much more from
(21:16):
Detroit and the biggest forty nine er fan going. So
I know she's sick. Come this weekend. What's up, Jamel?
Say hi to Carrie.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
Yeah, hey Carrie, and Rob is always so good to
catch up with you.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
How are you.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I'm doing great, hey, Jamel Royalty.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Glad to hear from no doubt. Hey we go back.
I told Carry the story when you yelled at me
the first time I ever met you, with sixteen only
Jamel could do it. The first day as a columnist
at the Free Press, of course, Jamel I wrote some
controversial column that people didn't like, so they were calling
the paper and Jamel was answering the phone. So I
(21:53):
show up that afternoon and she says, it's about time
you got here. You can start picking up some of
these phonecals. Crazy, all right, Jabelle. Let's talk about the football,
and of course you grew up in Detroit, born in Detroit,
and the Lions and their success. I know your family
back in friends in Detroit. People are just going crazy
(22:14):
about the Lion.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
I mean, it's really right in my own house. My
husband is also from Detroit and he's a life long
Lion fan, so he's been with them through all the suffering,
and so I'm happy for him to have this moment
and to finally understand what real winning feels like. But
unfortunately my household is in complete disarray because I'm a
(22:39):
forty nine Ers fan. He is a Lions fan, and
he threw as soon as the Lions won. I mean,
it was just like he had all of his trash
talk saved in draft. So I have had to hear
it NonStop, and I am just I'm amused by it,
because you know, people have been like, like, are you going
(23:00):
to switch a legion to from betread? I'm like, I
haven't been a Lions fan ever, Like I've been a
forty nine Ers fan since the early eighties, so like
to switch now just because they're good would just feel
very disingenuous to me. Like I wasn't with y'all through
O sixteen. I wasn't with y'all in the er couple days.
I wasn't with y'all, you know, through many of the
through Matt Miller, none of that. Like, so I couldn't
(23:21):
delight and I couldn't experience the pain, So why would
I delight in this success? And so, you know, and
then as I told my husband. I was like, it's cute.
I was like, you know, one of their comforts I
had as a forty nine Ers fan is frankly, I
never thought the Lions would be in our way for anything.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You sound like Rob, Rob, it's almost to the point
where it's bitter now.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
No, I'm not Jamel Jamelle. I covered those games for
twenty years, so you know exactly like.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
People like I think the people that have not experienced,
like somebody sent to me on social media today, they
were like, oh, but they made the playoffs like six
or seven times and all this. I was like, they
were totally irrelevant in the two thousands from you know,
really like in the early eighties they had like they
would have sleeping successes. But even with those years where
they would go like nine and seven or you might
see an occasional Tennisien six, the level of incompetence within
(24:16):
the organization was so dysfunctional that you knew this team
is not going anywhere. And you know, look, they broke
Barry Sanders for crying out loud.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Like we know the story.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
So this organization has had this very big cloud of
an aptitude, incompetence, bad decisions, bad draft picks. They've had
all the things that have gone wrong. So for the
people who have been with this team throughout all of that,
this is an unbelievable moment for me, and I am
(24:48):
truly happy for them, and more importantly, I'm happy for
this city.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, we know Barry had to get get on that
flight and go to the UK to get out of here.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
But don't forget Colvin Johnson dipped two Hall of Famous
walk out on the Organs exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
But no, Jamelle, I want to talk about the game
a little bit because obviously, you know, during the season,
everybody was high on San Fran. They were the team
to beat, they were the number one seed throughout you know,
people had that feeling about them as a team. They
had the big loss against Baltimore where we think, you know,
Baltimore overtook them as a number one team in the league,
and right now, the way they're playing, we can kind
(25:23):
of I think it's safe to say Baltimore is probably
the best team in the league at this moment. But
talking about San Fran and Pardy, are you worried about
Perdy right now? Are you worried about that team being
able to get over this hump and make it to
the championship game and actually win a championship with Perdy
as a guy.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
That's right, there were three bad quarters, Jamal. I know
you weren't feeling too good most of that game.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
Well actually, I know a lot of people look at
it negatively and I understand.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
I understand that, But.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
I actually thought this weekend with a huge growth moment
for him. You know, people have to remember he's still young.
This is only his second years to start, and when
he made those mistakes early particularly well, I should say
almost mistakes, because when he almost threw that pick six,
like right away, you could tell that that really shocked him.
There was a lot of pressure on San Francisco in
(26:12):
this game. You're the number one speed. You've had two
weeks off. Green Bay was hot and honestly, Jordan.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Love is the real deal.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
And watching how much progression the Packers had the last
two months of the season. I remember they beat the Lions. Okay,
so like this team, that team that wasn't your normal
low seated you know, team like the put it like this.
We would rather had We would have rather had the
Bucks than have the Packers. And I promise you at
(26:40):
the Packers place the Lions again, they would have struggled
and they might have messed around and lost again. Seriously,
that team, that team is no joke. So but the
growth moment was the fact that he collected himself and
he finally got over the hump of winning a game
where he was down and where we need to have it.
And that's an important moment, I think for anybody who
(27:03):
wants to be a serious player in this league, because
so much of what athletes to do is by muscle memory,
and that's mental muscle memory as well. If you know
you've done it before, it gives you the confidence to
do it again. He had never done it before.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
He never brought us back before.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
And even though he almost did it against Cleveland, and
really that was just about a missfield goal, but nevertheless,
he still didn't make enough play throughout the game to
put him in a more decisive position. But as we
seek in Cleveland, they have one of the best defensive
in the league, so it's not like that he lost
to some flouch But I say all that to say
is that I think getting over the hump of winning
(27:38):
when you were supposed to winning in the first round
round and now facing this part, I expect, particularly since
the weather is supposed to be good, that brock Party
will be a lot more comfortable than he looked this
past weekend. Now, let's just keep it real. Of all
the quarterbacks left, brock Perty is the worst one in
the group. Okay, and by.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Worse, but no, no, no, that's fair. Jared Goff went
to a super Bowl, right, yes, correct, It's like.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
He's the least experience. He is the quote worst and
I put that in quote because he's certainly not a
bad He's certainly not a bad quarterback. And I really
hate that people have used his success to take off
on him. I'm like, guys, he was the last stick
in the draft for a reason. Okay, Lamark Jackson was
a Heisman Trophy winner. Patrick Mahomes basically owns the AFC.
(28:27):
I mean, Jared Golf, as you put it, has been
to the Super Bowl and the last year and a half,
he has proven that he's a competent, capable, good quarterback
in this league. Of the four, if we're doing the draft,
you're probably picking rock Perty last. And that's okay. That
doesn't mean that he's not the guy who can't win,
(28:47):
who can't win the Super Bowl. Listen, three years ago
when the forty nine Ers played the Chiefs in the
Super Bowl, should have won that game, up on the
up on the Chiefs and Kyle Shanahan unfortunately did the
same thing that he did when he was coordinator.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
And yes, he did the same thing.
Speaker 9 (29:06):
It's like, we didn't run the ball. We're averaging like
eight nine yards.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Not run the ball.
Speaker 9 (29:12):
Okay, that's why we lost. So I think right now
in San Francisco, the sense of urgency is there. They
know that this team only has so short of a window.
You've been to a few NFC Championship games. Now time
to get number six.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Caiot, point blank, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
One last thing, Jamel, we got about thirty or forty seconds.
Do you feel for the people in Buffalo. I've changed
the name of the city to a wide right New York.
My god, Jamel, if you're a Bills fan, you got
to be sick. Another missfield goal in their history.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
You do have to be sick. But I do think
and listen, I know that you almost now that. I
don't know how Josh Allen became the polarizing player of
the moment, but he is and there were just throws
and things that he he didn't do in that game
that they should have won. They should have been in
a position a better position to win. I mean, I
know it's a field goal, but it's buffalo, you know
(30:08):
the elements. I know it's just cold, but I do
feel like in many respects he cost him that game.
He would not He just won't take the conservative player
to live to fight another down.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
He just won't do it.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
And it's like sometimes you have to do that in
order to get to where you want to go. And
I think he's still maturing, and I hope that that
was a lesson for him, because if you know, he's
about to carry the cloud that Peyton Manning here for
a long time, can't be Tom Brady, and right now
for him, cannot be Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
No doubt. Her name is Jamel Hill. Check her out
in The Atlantic of course, the author, podcast host as well,
and the friend of mine. They're great, no doubt, Jamel,
Thank you appreciate it. Chris is under the weather. Next
time we talk to you, he'll be here, all right.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
Tell him, I said, what's up and get to talk
to you.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Guess absolutely, Thanks Jamel, all right. Coming up next, guess
what Tomorrow is the announcement of the Baseball Hall of Fame,
And I'm going to give you my ballad. I'm gonna
tell you who I voted for that and much more,
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(32:30):
Kenny on MLB now at three point thirty eastern, So
if you're flipping around, I'll be on tomorrow for that.
And you know, I have a Hall of Fame vote.
It is my most prized possession. I don't have any
kids like Rob G. Rob G has a daughter, that's right,
that's his most prize possession. For me, it's my Baseball
(32:51):
Hall of Fame vote. That's all I have. Hey, that's
big time though, man. And I am voter number seventy
and the BBDA when I started my career number five
sixty nine. So look at how far I've dropped down.
I don't know if I really want number one, you
know what I mean on that car that might be
(33:11):
two one. You don't want that one, nah, I mean
he won't be a round long. But anyway, here it is.
You get ten votes. Carry only voted for two people.
Adrian Beltrey, I think he's a lock. Thirty over thirty
one hundred hits. Three thousand hits is a benchmark, is
a magic number for yours truly, And I've voted for
(33:33):
Gary Sheffield five hundred and nine home runs five hundred
is another bench mark. There are a lot of good
players on this list. I know people think Joe Morrow
will get in the catcher from the Twins. He's trending
that way people. Some people want Billy Wagner, the closer,
(33:54):
Andrew Jones who won all those gold gloves with the
Atlanta Braves. Those guys, to me fall in the hall
are very good. I really believe that if there's a
debate about your career, you're not a Hall of Fame.
Yeah that too? Is that too stringent or too hard?
Do you see what I'm saying? Like, like I take
(34:16):
it to the extreme. If I say to you, Hank Aaron,
is there a debate? No, that's where the Hall of
Fame should be the best of the best on questioned
And and I know that's gonna leave a lot of
people out who have really good careers, very good careers,
it is, but it's not the Hall of very good.
So it's all about numbers for you. And well, I'm.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
The numbers are big exactly because I'm like in basketball,
right or football, like you have these guys that are
on the cuss, but they've won three Super Bowls. Eli
Manning for example. Right, I don't think it's a Hall
of Famer myself, but see you know why why And.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I'm gonna tell you, yeah, because you're right, he didn't
have great regular but he won two Super Bowls and
he beat the Patriots twice and he has two signature
throws and two big games. You gotta admit that way,
and it's true.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
So when you say just the numbers for you in baseball,
there are benchmark numbers, right, that automatically gets you in.
So what if those numbers are they don't have all three,
they have one of them?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
No, No, But that's what I'm saying. So that's why
it's not for me. If you have those, it's automatic
you get my vote and other people. You gotta look
at everything, what they do in the postseason, did they
win World Series? What you know, like whatever that league
MVP like you need to be like the greatest player,
like who is out there in your position at that time. Right,
(35:45):
I'm a tough voter, but you gotta stick to you
gotta stick to your morals. Yeah, because that's do I
want it to be a hard place to get in.
I don't think the Pro Football Hall of Fame and
definitely not the Basketball of Fame are hard. I don't
think it nearly has artist baseball. Would you agree with that? No,
I agree with that one hundred percent. Basketball, they put
anybody in, I don't even know what the criteria.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I mean they're talking about to Mars Stidam maybe being
all and I love him, so I'm not talking bad
about him, but yeah, he's not.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Tracy mcgrady's a Hall of Fame. He made it out
of first round of playoffs. I think one time exactly,
or did he ever? I don't know. I just I
don't think he ever made it one time? One time?
Was it one time with the Spurs? And I'm not
saying he couldn't play or won a very good player
(36:32):
or anything. I just think the Hall of Fame should
be for the best of the best. You think it's sacred, Yes,
I do, And I'm gonna as long as I have
a vote, as long as I'm around. I'm gonna make
sure that only the greatest of the great kid it.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
You're gonna be alone, You're gonna be long. You're gonna
be here long enough to be number one, So we'll
I don't.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Want to be number one. Number seventy. I think that's good.
All right again, another show Kerry Rose as a pincher
or guess what, you hit it out the park. Let's
do it. I don't know. They proved the fastball. He
hit it out the park. Hey, I'm almost.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I'm two thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine more away
from being there.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Right, Oh, we got one, no doubt. Kerry Roads filling in.
Hopefully Chris Bussoto feel good. Tomorrow we'll have him back
on the show. If not, we'll see if Kerry's available again.
Thanks everybody else, Rob g Iowa, Sam and of course
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