February 3, 2024 • 36 mins
Chris and Rob discuss Dan Campbell's hyper-aggressive playcalling and tell us if his insistence to always 'go for it' could wind up costing him his job as the Detroit Lions head coach, tell us why they have no sympathy for Joel Embiid potentially missing out on All-NBA honors because he likely won’t reach the 65-game minimum and take Micah Parsons to task for seemingly passing the buck in the wake of the Dallas Cowboys’ embarrassing postseason performance.
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
The Detroit Lions oh so close to their first ever
Super Bowl appearance. They jump out to a hugely twenty
four to seven halftime lead over the San Francisco forty
nine ers, but instead of closing it out, they actually
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become the victims rip of the greatest comeback in the
history of the NFC Championship Game, the.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Thirty four thirty one to the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And a lot of people are looking at coach Dan
Campbell Robb he made a living this really since he's
been with Detroit. Going forward on fourth downs, he's got
the most this season. At least, he's got the most
where they went forward on fourth and three or less
in the league. He's got the most conversions to you know,
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where they were successful, but he went twice Rob in
this game instead of kicking field goals, and they failed
to get the fourth downs. And then also had a
running play, you know at the end of the game
where they ran it at the goal line, which essentially
meant they had to kick doing on side kick.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
And yeah, but he had to burn the time inside kick.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, you had to burn the time out and do
the on side kick, which you never get those, you know,
in today's NFL. It's just almost impossible. And that's what happened.
They didn't get the inside kick, and that was the ballgame.
But what are your thoughts on the Lions and what
Dan Campbell those cars? Because that's really been the story today.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And Chris on Friday I mentioned this. I said, Dan
Campbell coach like this where he had lost some games.
We talked about it before. He's a gambler. He likes
to gamble. But I'm gonna tell you this, and I said,
we'll wait and see Rob gu I wish we could
find the tape, but I said that this guy has
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done this and we'll see if it cost the Lions.
I said this on Friday, and Chris, Dan Campbell cost
the Lions I'm gonna say, I'm gonna call him Dan
Choke for today. You think he cost them the game.
I think he cost them the game. And I'm gonna
tell you why it's not about. First of all, people
are saying this is his aggressiveness is who he is.
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That's why the Lions are who they are, and he
can't change what he's done. If that was really the case, Chris,
at the end of the first half, he would have
gone for the juggular when he was there.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
But what do you do.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was a smart move. But that's what I'm telling
you is that he in that moment, understood what what
it meant where you were in that game, Chris, right
to go for the field goal. Now here's why I
have a problem with him not taking points. You were
in the midst of being trounced twenty seven to nothing.
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You needed points, Chris.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You're talking about the fourth and three with about seven
minutes left.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
No, both of them.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
There was one, right, the first one early on they
were trouncing No.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
But remember they had a chance to go up seventeen
early right.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
That that's the one I'm talking about. After San Francisco
came out scored Chris to make it twenty four to ten. Right,
so it's a two score game. They drive right after that,
they could have put three points up and now that's
a three score game. There's a big difference between you know,
this two score and three score.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
The second half, it's a huge defense rode with the
way they run the ball and we're running the Thank you, Chris,
didy ate up more clock.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You start counting possessions, You count possessions.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You'd say San Francisco's gonna store it three times and
they can't, Like you can't. Not only they have to
hold the lions the whole way and then score three
times just to beat you, like the degree of difficulty
is too big. So so he didn't go for it
the first time. So that tells you that his mindset
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was different. Then after they had a chance to go
up three scores, he passes on that. Now, Chris, with
seven minutes to go, you have a chance to tie
the game. Yep, you've been shut out twenty seven to nothing.
You have a chance to put points on the board. Chris,
tie the game, and then that changes in momentum you
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tie it. San Franz has been rolling you tie the game.
Now it's like changed anybody's game. Yep, right, bro, pretty
could throw it, pick six, taken, fumble, Chris, like, all
kinds of things can happen. So when he did all
of this, and you know, the Lions history trusts me.
I got texas from football players, former Lions and whatnot, like, okay,
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they've been lyonized finally, okay. And for this was so
cruel to Lions fans because Chris twenty four to seven
at the half. People were calling Las Vegas making their
playing reservation. Oh my god, the lines are going to
the super Bowl. It was gonna take a colossal collapse
by the Lions for this not to happen. And Dan
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Campbell fed into it. And I'm not talking about people
talking about, well, they fumbled the ball, they missed some passes.
That's football, Chris. They're going to be fumbles, people are
gonna drop the ball. We can sit there all day
on every single game about a player fumbling and somebody
missing a pass. But when you're a coach in no circumstances,
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you have to read the game, read the room. You're
giving up twenty seven straight points, you're trying to have
a three score advantage with the clock ticking. That's where
he let them down. That's why I say it was
a choke job. It was Dan Campbell and the biggest
moment on the biggest stage with the brightest lights, he
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choked down the game. He failed the Lions, he failed
the city. I know people don't want to hear that today,
and oh look at where they are and all that.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I'll get them my point where you I disagree.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
And I'll say this is fireable. The performance that he
put up. Chris, I'm gonna go back to one other thing,
one last thing, and then I'll let you go. It's
just like what we saw last year with Brandon Staley
when they lost the twenty seven to nothing lead. I'm
just just hear me out Brandon Staley. At that point
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a year, Chris, when they were up twenty seven to
nothing in the playoffs, you would have thought this guy
is good to go for years to come. And guess what,
now did they lose that playoff game. He continued to
do that stuff the next season, right, and then they
didn't make the playoffs and now he's out of a job.
You can't keep coaching like this, That's all I'm gonna
tell you.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
No way Dan Campbell should be fired. That is ridiculous.
I mean he he brought this team.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You say, let Lions fans down, Well, they wouldn't even
be here without Dan Campbell. That dude led them to
the first NFC championship game in thirty three years.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Thirty two years, and you want to fire him. Heck, gnaw,
twelve and five.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
They haven't haven't had a record that good since they
went to the last conference championship in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You're right, they won eleven and six. They went twelve
four years.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Now that ain't twelve and five, and that ain't getting
to the conference championship.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I look, I think he made mistakes.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I think the three things we talked about running it
at the end of the game on the goal line. Look,
I think they were the game. They weren't gonna win
that game at that point, but still it was a bag.
But it took away your any chance really that you
had of winning it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
The field.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I agree with both of the field goals that he
should have just taken the points.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
You and I have talked about that before.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
The playoffs is different, and he definitely should have went
for the tie. How do you knock on there's a
lot of time left, you would have momentum. Now San
Francisco ran down and scored on the next possession, but
still it's still a different game. I personally think the
Niners were the better team. They came out sleepwalking, the
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the Lions jumped on them. But the I think, regardless
of what Dan Campbell would have done, I think the
Niners would have won that game. Of course we don't know,
but I think they would have won it anyway because
they were the better team and started balling out in
the second half. But no, I'm with you and saying
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he made the wrong moves. I'm with you and saying
he has got to find that happy medium between being
going forward on fourth downs, because that was that's been
successful for them, It's worked a lot, but also you've
got to settle down and sometimes take the points. Rob
it was the same thing against Dallas. Now that was
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the regular season, but when he went, yeah, he went
for two, and every freaking at the seven yard line
after the penalties, he goes for two instead of kicking
the extra points. So I'm with you, but there's no
way that I am even contemplating firing Dan Campbell.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
After that, Dan Campbell let the forty nine ers off
the hook, and he also Chris, he said this to
his players after the game, and he's spot on. That
might have been our only chance and this was the
Lions chance. If you think the Lions are going back
to the NFC Championship game, are gonna be on the
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cusp of a Super Bowl up twenty four to seven
on the road again, you're kidding yourself.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Well, they may not be up twenty four seconds. I'm
just saying I don't know that they'll get there next
I'm just saying it is a.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Tough road when you're there and you can't and you
can't let that go by. You just can't because it's
you have to read the situation. And what he didn't do, Chris,
was the momentum factor. Just what you were talking about,
like there was a they would get it. They give
up twenty seven straight points, you have to stop the bleeding,
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take the field goals. What what are you doing? What
are you trying to prove in this situation? I thought
he choked in a big spot and the Lions will
this will haunt them.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
This is one of the biggest collapses and NFC. It's
the biggest NFC is, you know, biggest comeback.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Or what what would the opposite be of the comeback
giveaway whatever in the NFC title game history, So it's huge.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Were I The only places I disagree with you on
is that I.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Don't think they cost them the game because I think
they were gonna lose anyway.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
And two, I there's no way I think you should
be fine.
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Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah, we're getting to the NBA Robin.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
This article by Hollinger was talking about this scoring explosion.
Now check this out, Rob, If you haven't been paying attention,
scoring is way up in the NBA, not only among
teams but individual players.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
All right, So here listen to this, Rob. This is incredible.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
From the start of the game, the first seven decades
of the history of the NBA, this is this was
up until January.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Rob, all right, seven decades, seventy years, only six players
had ever scored seventy or more points in an NBA game.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Six.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
It's happened four times.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Since January twenty twenty three, and twice in the last
two weeks. Lucas seventy three, MBAD has seventy recently, And
so that's just one of the examples. But scoring is
way up, which is good. It's good to have offense,
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but you don't want it to become you know, teams
essentially scoring all the time, and they're not scoring all
the time. The percentage of points or possessions they're scoring
on is only slightly higher than it's been in the past.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
But it's the three pointers, Rob.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You know, the teams are taken essentially about forty percent
of their shots are from three, so that's almost half.
Your shots are now worth three points instead of two.
So that's one reason scoring is up. And then because
of the threat of the three, defenses are stretched out
to the limit, right because they're guarding the three point line.
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Once you beat your defender, which is easy to do
if you got handled, and these dudes got handle and
you can't hand check Rob, so they can beat you
off the dribble, and then it's easy to get to
the bucket and score. And scoring on two point shots,
ROB is way up because teams aren't really taking nearly
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as many long mid range jumpers. They're getting all the
way to the hole or in the paint or short
mid rangers. So the offenses have become really good and efficient.
But the question is is all of this scoring good
for the game? You know, Rob, you know baseball, that's
your sport. I mean, we all love the home runs,
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right with triples, exciting plays, stolen bases, But you don't
want softball out there, right, You don't want fifty Nobody
wont regular games from fifteen to twelve.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
So where are you out on this story spree in
the NBA?
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Chris?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I gotta admit I understand the NBA wanted to improve
the scoring. They were tired of the pistons and seventy
points and all that. I understood that, But what we're
watching now defensively where you can't do anything to players
and it's a free for all. All the European players
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have told us it's so easy to score in the NBA,
and we have seen it, and what this game is
turned into. Your Steve Kerr recently just say how this
is just enough? Is enough? Chris? It's almost unwatchable night
after night. How many nights are we doing our radio
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show and the update we get from Steve or somebody
and somebody's down by thirty five points in.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
The first time blowouts. That's the whole I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
But but it is just I don't think it's a
good product just to have scoring. And I'm not saying
we want to go back to seventy points. I don't
want to go back to seventy No, but I don't
like this NBA. I don't like all of these points.
And it's so easy and dip defenders are at a
disadvantage and they can't do anything to defend. That used
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to be a skill that was big Chris and the
Dennis Rodmans and Ben Wallace's and people would roll up
their sleeves and you know what I mean, and dig.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
In Jordan, and you know, even some of the best
offensive players, even Lebron was a great defender in.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
His heyday, right, and dig in Chris, It's okay. We
used to talk about the NBL a time Chris was
in the playoffs. Sometimes games came down to what getting
a stop at the end.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And it's not that they aren't putting forth effort on defense, Rob.
I think they've just, you know, offenses have become incredibly
efficient and they build everything around that three point line
and these guys are shooting it well and hitting the shots.
And again, because the floor is so spaced, you beat
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your man, which is easy to do when they can't
handguard you, right hand check you.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
And now it's just a free for all at the rim.
So I hear you.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I've said for a long time it wasn't necessary. I
didn't see this is the reason that scoring would be
way up. I just didn't I thought that. I think
there's a threshold, and I don't know that we've hit it,
but Rob, I think there's a there's I don't know
what it even is, but there's a threshold where when
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you take so many threes, the game becomes junkie, it
becomes a caricature of itself. We've seen that with the
All Star Game, right, the All Star Game is not
fun to watch now. I know they're not defending hard
in that, but still they shoot so many three that
is just a joke.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
My answer to that route, and I think it.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Would help in this regard as far as the scoring, too,
would be to cut off the three point line at
either you know it's an arc, right, yeah, But I
don't know if you cut it off at the free
throw line extended or if you want to just cut
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it off. You know where the arc ends and it
becomes a straight line. But basically you're eliminating that corner
and side three And to me, what that does is it,
Because you can't just put five minute the three or
three or four minute the three point line anymore and
run high, pick and roll and then kick it out.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
To them or our iso like that.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
What it would do is it would bring back postplay,
it would bring back mid range game, and you still
would have the three pointers. I think rob all sports
are better when there's a balance. We talked about it
with baseball.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Gotta be a ball all home runs. We don't want
a strikeouts and they and they may changes changes right
to make it so that we got bases and hit
and run and no shift, and we got guys on
the base pass and the brand of baseball was better
his past year, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Football, we don't want three yards in the cloud of dust.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But we don't want to real right, we don't want
to win them Football where you're throwing every down and
everything is a waste to the sticks, just run yep.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
And I think it's the same thing here.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You don't want all threes and layups or dunks. You
want a variety of the game. I mean you essentially
in a lot of cases, they're taking out parts of
the floor because guys are being taught in some franchises
not to shoot mid range jumpers or certainly long twos.
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So I think that, in my view, that's something that
they might want to look at. I'm not as down
on the product as you, but there does need to
be some tweaking at the very least, because, like we said, right,
this isn't even what the article's about, but there seem
to be way more blowouts than ever.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Chris, that's the other part. And you're right, but but
even the number that he came up with, you know,
doing the research about seven decades and only six players
have done it. And now you know, like you got
what four this four in the fourth in the last year,
in the last year, four when it was six and
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seven decades and now and then two in the last
two weeks, like like those are incredible numbers. But the blowouts,
and Chris, you talk about it on a nightly basis
when I'm bellyaching about the game, and it's because if
you're if you're hitting your threes and you have a
bad night with threes, you are down by thirty. Chris,
you have a bad night shooting three In.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
A lot of case, there's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, So I also think Rob that the style of
play as far as some teams, it's all the ball's
always in one guy's hands and he he is going
to You know, if you have the ball in your
hands all the time, your numbers are gonna be outrageous.
And Luka donca Is who scored seventy three, he's one
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of those guys. Especially when Kyrie's not there, who you
know injured that game, it's always in his hands. Chauncey
Billips once told me when Chauncey was working at ESPN.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
This was about a decade ago, maybe a little longer.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
He said, Look, this is when the point guards were
really starting to put up these crazy numbers, and it
was looking like, man, this is the best era of
point guards ever.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
He said.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Man, if I dribbled the ball for fifteen to twenty
seconds and then either took the shot or passed it
to the guy that was gonna take the shot, my
numbers would have been crazy too. But that's not the
best way to win. So I also think that's a
part of it, Rob. So many of these teams revolve
around one or two players doing everything. That's what we
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said with the Lakers. If they got a twenty five
point score. He ain't getting twenty five with them, Nope,
it won't happen.
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Speaker 3 (22:29):
Until then, let's go to the NFL and talk about
Micah Parsons his podcast. You know, he had it all
season long and he'said some interesting things.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Was it yesterday, I guess it was yesterday.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
He had DeAndre Swift on with him, but he also
did a solo bit, which is what we're gonna hear.
But here's Micah talking about some of the things going
on with the Cowboys and their disappointing season.
Speaker 9 (22:57):
Yeah, so he said a lot, and depending on your perspective,
if Micah may or may not have thrown the Cowboys
front office, the Cowboys coaching staff, and his own teammates
under the bus. So first off, you know Jerry Jones
the headlines when he said they're could go all lay
in on twenty twenty four, Well, Micah had some thoughts
on that.
Speaker 10 (23:15):
Take a listen, We're going all in this year, man,
That's what I would hope for you know, I'm twenty
four years old. I've been in this league, you know,
three years, and I kind of seen it all. And
I hope that we go all in. I hope that
we go out and get the players that we're missing,
because we didn't do that this year.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
You know.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
I hope that we challenge ourselves, become better and become
greater for us.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
So the Cowboys, who had nine All pros apparently are
still missing some talent on that roster.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It's all right, Michah.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, here's the problem. He was saying all year that
they have enough. A few times before the season, as
they were entering the playoffs, he was telling Cowboy Nation
get ready for the Super Bowl parade, right, he said
that we get ready for the Super Bowl all right,
after the Niners whipped them by thirty two points, even
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he said, I think we on their level.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Like he talked like they had enough, and I get it.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Maybe you say, well, you saw they didn't, Okay, but
he was talking all year long about they had enough.
And like you said, Rob G, nine Pro bowlers, it
looks like that prod' pro nine All pros.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
That's Pro bowlers obviously.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So you know, but he said a lot.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
He had a long podcast, and then he's responding to
some of the critics were saying, hey, you guys got
gashed in the run game against Green Bay Aaron Jones
brown roughshot, why didn't you move over to linebacker and
help stuff the run game? Well, mikel had answer for
that one too. Take a listen.
Speaker 10 (24:41):
At the end of the day, we were just outperformed,
out schemed.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
They had an answer for everything.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
People saying, well, why ain't you go to linebacker because
they said you can stop the run? Well, guess what
the packages are in for me to go to linebacker.
There's multiple packages, multiple variations, But I can only play
what is called whatever they're calling, whatever personnet they're putting on.
I'm not putting out personnel. I'm not putting out the
calls that nothing's coming from me. I do see a
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Super Bowl in my future. I want to be a
Super Bowl champion. I challenge anyone to actually go look
at the game film and say, did.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Mike could play his heart out?
Speaker 10 (25:17):
To go out like that at home was completely embarrassing
and unacceptable. It took me a while to even be
able to show my face in a public.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Well, look, I think we all would believe he played
his heart out, but he didn't play particularly well. And
thank you, Chris, right, I mean nobody. I don't think
anybody's questioning did you try? Their questioning why were you effective?
You're one of the best defender defensive players in.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
The league, Rob. I think he had one tackle?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah, well he had two tackles that game, one
solo tackle, one QB.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
It this Michael Parson.
Speaker 9 (25:51):
Well, Chris, it's funny you say that because Michael Parsons,
as he's been wont to do, you know, decided Hey,
I'm going to weigh in on my own performance, right,
and obviously was an embarrassing defensive showing by the Cowboys.
He didn't play particularly well, But if you ask him,
Michael Parsons wasn't the problem.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
I'm as complete peace, you know.
Speaker 10 (26:10):
Yeah, And I say that because I don't think I
could have done anything more to try to win that game.
And that comes to watching film with the other guys
in the room saying what I'm seeing being vocal out
there on the field. I was completely at peace because
I know I don't have no regrets about how I
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performed or what I put into the game.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Thanks thanks for that. That's the podcast, Chris, that's what
we want for Michael Parsons. I appreciate it. I got
a new name for his podcast, turn his Micah off
because we got nothing.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
That was a pretty good one.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Chris to ninety and his analysis about himself and his team.
We'll get you on the subway because he gave me nothing.
We get it. These guys, Chris, they play in the game.
I have respect for them. If you want me to say,
if you want to tell me about what plays are
being called, and all the other stuff and the intensity
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and the stuff that went on out buying to that.
But to go to these players and think you're gonna
get honest analysis of them, their friends, their teammates, You're
not gonna get it. It is a total waste of time.
(27:36):
Stop it. If you're gonna listen to the podcasts and
you're gonna give these guys numbers, demand that they give
you something so that you can listen to it and
feel that there's some worth there. There's nothing there. It's
a waste of time. I get it. He could have
a gazillion downloads because he's Michael Parson. He's for the Cowboys.
(28:02):
I understand that he'll have more downloads than I'll ever have,
and I'm fine with that. But I'll tell you what
you'll get when you listen to the odd couple podcasts.
You'll get an honest analysis of what went on, and
then you can make your own judgment of what happened.
It won't be one sided and biased because they're involved.
(28:26):
They want to play the game and report on the game.
Imagine that. And then his own analysis Chris, Oh, he
played great, you played great, You lost. You were embarrassed.
You should have stood up there and said, you know what.
Of course I didn't play well. No team I played
(28:47):
on would have given up forty eight points at home
in a playoff game. I have to play better, My
teammates have to play better, and we didn't get the
job done. Talking about he could sleep at Really, I'm
so tired of hearing these clips from these podcasts. A
total waste of time. All Right, I'm telling you the
(29:11):
new name of his podcast from a year on out,
turn off his Micah.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Well, I like your name for.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
It, turn off the Micah. That's very clever and well done.
I disagree, though, on the content. These dudes are unfiltered. Now, yeah,
he was wrong, he played poorly, but getting his honest
feeling like I think he honestly feels that way, and
that tells you something, Rob. Why didn't a lot of
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players would go up there and say, you know what,
I didn't get it done.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I played badly. I gotta play better.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
He didn't do that, which gives you some insight into
Michael Parsons. Why didn't you just say I didn't show up,
I didn't get it done. So I disagree with you
on these podcasts not having any value.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Here's where I'm at on it.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
My issue is this, just like I say about Jerry Jones, Rob,
and you know this is not new.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
This is not a reaction to this season.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I have been saying for years that Jerry Jones wants
the spotlight.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Jerry Jones wants, you know, to make news.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
He wants to be on the talk shows, whether he's
actually on it or he's just the topic of conversation
or the Cowboys or the topic of conversation. He wants
the attention more than he wants a super Bowl. And
Micah Parsons is only following in those footsteps. Michaeh Parsons
doesn't need a podcast. What other player in the league
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that's that young in any league? Maybe there is somebody.
I don't know of them. I'm thinking of the podcast
I know of. They're either veterans who have won championships,
Jason Kelsey and Travis Kelcey, Draymond Green, or Paul George
hasn't won a championship, but he's a veteran, all right.
(31:20):
Kevin Durantz got the boardroom veteran championships. And then there
are ex players KG, Paul Pierce, the knuckleheads, you know,
with Quentin Richardson and Daris Miles, all the smoke, Stephen
Jackson and Matt Barnes and all that stuff. But I
(31:42):
don't know, and maybe I'm missing it. But I can't
count too many. I can't count any that I know
of where it's a guy that young, hasn't reached his
full potential yet, hasn't won yet, and he's doing a podcast.
And Rob The point is, like Rob G said, he
(32:03):
threw He definitely threw the coaching staff under the.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Bus, right he said that like that, right, Oh, they
have packages. They just didn't put it a little bit.
They didn't run it yep, and we got out schemed.
We got out prepared. I don't know if he said prepared,
but we got our schemed. He definitely said that. That's
the coaches now.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I don't know if you can argue whether or not
he threw his teammates under the bus, like we need
to go get more we didn't have it this year.
That's debatable, but he definitely threw the coaches under the bus.
I don't think he did on purpose, but that's the
danger and rob.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I think Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
If Jerry Jones came out tomorrow and said next year,
or even on the first day of training camp and
said next.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Year, we are trying to do things differently.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
We're turning over a new leaf because we are tired
of not even being the freaking bridesmaids. We are tired
of underachieving, so we're gonna do something new.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I will not be talking to you this season. This
will be the last conversation you.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Have with me until we're being handed that NFC title trophy.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
If he said that, that.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Would take press, I believe, take some pressure off these players.
It would it would clear the air. The culture would
be different, and you could go to Michael Parsons and say, Micah, look,
I'm not talking to anybody this year because it's all football,
and I would like it if you didn't talk. I'm
(33:41):
not trying to take money out of your pocket. Heck,
I just paid you tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
But this year, man, let's focus on the football.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Once we win that ring, then do all the podcasts
you want.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
He could do that, he can't do that.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Now You're running your mouth after every game Upstate. You
coach you on the radio show locally every Tuesday. So
that's what I that's my issue with the podcast, not
that he he's saying whatever, you know what the content,
but he don't he puts his foot in his.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Mouth too much because he's a young guy.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I would have put my foot in my mouth at
that age, and so I think that that's my issue
with it.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Rob eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, I hear you.
I'm just saying, dude, I just couldn't. And I'm different,
I'm cut from a different cloth. I'm looking for some
I'm looking for content, but I'm looking for some context
to it. I'm looking for an honest I just I
don't think you could be honest, Chris, And it has
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nothing to do with them knowing the game or obviously
they're playing in the game, but they can't be honest.
They can't that because they're compromised. They're in bed with
too many people. They're too many friends and too many things.
So you you ginger about about your comments when you
sit down on first things first, Chris, you know you're
not beholden to anybody. Okay, you know that. Am I
(35:08):
right or wrong? No, you're right, You're right jennings Greg
jennings On, And I said this to you before. And
I'm not going after anybody. There's a lot of guys
who I like in his business. But your show right
now is the number one show on Fox FS one
and have no former athletes. That's fine, Chris, that's the number.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
One sports show overall as far as these types of shows, PTI,
Michael Will.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
No former athletes, all right, And I'm not saying that
there's not a place for them, right. Fans don't want
to hear everything's great, Chris, that's not what they want
to hear.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Well, the ex players that make it that really get busy.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
That's what they hate.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Charles Barkleystely, they hate Charles Barkley. Why you're right about
that Rob being here a writer or a reporter or
you know who's it's gonna be honest and not you know,
wave pom poms and hold his tongue instead of an
ex player who's just gonna say, you know, protect his
friends and his coaches and you know, the league and
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all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
So I am I do agree with you on that
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The Detroit Lions oh so close to their first ever
Super Bowl appearance. They jump out to a hugely twenty
four to seven halftime lead over the San Francisco forty
nine ers, but instead of closing it out, they actually
(00:51):
become the victims rip of the greatest comeback in the
history of the NFC Championship Game, the.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Thirty four thirty one to the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And a lot of people are looking at coach Dan
Campbell Robb he made a living this really since he's
been with Detroit. Going forward on fourth downs, he's got
the most this season. At least, he's got the most
where they went forward on fourth and three or less
in the league. He's got the most conversions to you know,
(01:26):
where they were successful, but he went twice Rob in
this game instead of kicking field goals, and they failed
to get the fourth downs. And then also had a
running play, you know at the end of the game
where they ran it at the goal line, which essentially
meant they had to kick doing on side kick.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
And yeah, but he had to burn the time inside kick.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, you had to burn the time out and do
the on side kick, which you never get those, you know,
in today's NFL. It's just almost impossible. And that's what happened.
They didn't get the inside kick, and that was the ballgame.
But what are your thoughts on the Lions and what
Dan Campbell those cars? Because that's really been the story today.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And Chris on Friday I mentioned this. I said, Dan
Campbell coach like this where he had lost some games.
We talked about it before. He's a gambler. He likes
to gamble. But I'm gonna tell you this, and I said,
we'll wait and see Rob gu I wish we could
find the tape, but I said that this guy has
(02:31):
done this and we'll see if it cost the Lions.
I said this on Friday, and Chris, Dan Campbell cost
the Lions I'm gonna say, I'm gonna call him Dan
Choke for today. You think he cost them the game.
I think he cost them the game. And I'm gonna
tell you why it's not about. First of all, people
are saying this is his aggressiveness is who he is.
(02:52):
That's why the Lions are who they are, and he
can't change what he's done. If that was really the case, Chris,
at the end of the first half, he would have
gone for the juggular when he was there.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
But what do you do.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was a smart move. But that's what I'm telling
you is that he in that moment, understood what what
it meant where you were in that game, Chris, right
to go for the field goal. Now here's why I
have a problem with him not taking points. You were
in the midst of being trounced twenty seven to nothing.
(03:28):
You needed points, Chris.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You're talking about the fourth and three with about seven
minutes left.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
No, both of them.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
There was one, right, the first one early on they
were trouncing No.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
But remember they had a chance to go up seventeen
early right.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
That that's the one I'm talking about. After San Francisco
came out scored Chris to make it twenty four to ten. Right,
so it's a two score game. They drive right after that,
they could have put three points up and now that's
a three score game. There's a big difference between you know,
this two score and three score.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
The second half, it's a huge defense rode with the
way they run the ball and we're running the Thank you, Chris,
didy ate up more clock.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You start counting possessions, You count possessions.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You'd say San Francisco's gonna store it three times and
they can't, Like you can't. Not only they have to
hold the lions the whole way and then score three
times just to beat you, like the degree of difficulty
is too big. So so he didn't go for it
the first time. So that tells you that his mindset
(04:35):
was different. Then after they had a chance to go
up three scores, he passes on that. Now, Chris, with
seven minutes to go, you have a chance to tie
the game. Yep, you've been shut out twenty seven to nothing.
You have a chance to put points on the board. Chris,
tie the game, and then that changes in momentum you
(04:59):
tie it. San Franz has been rolling you tie the game.
Now it's like changed anybody's game. Yep, right, bro, pretty
could throw it, pick six, taken, fumble, Chris, like, all
kinds of things can happen. So when he did all
of this, and you know, the Lions history trusts me.
I got texas from football players, former Lions and whatnot, like, okay,
(05:20):
they've been lyonized finally, okay. And for this was so
cruel to Lions fans because Chris twenty four to seven
at the half. People were calling Las Vegas making their
playing reservation. Oh my god, the lines are going to
the super Bowl. It was gonna take a colossal collapse
by the Lions for this not to happen. And Dan
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Campbell fed into it. And I'm not talking about people
talking about, well, they fumbled the ball, they missed some passes.
That's football, Chris. They're going to be fumbles, people are
gonna drop the ball. We can sit there all day
on every single game about a player fumbling and somebody
missing a pass. But when you're a coach in no circumstances,
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you have to read the game, read the room. You're
giving up twenty seven straight points, you're trying to have
a three score advantage with the clock ticking. That's where
he let them down. That's why I say it was
a choke job. It was Dan Campbell and the biggest
moment on the biggest stage with the brightest lights, he
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choked down the game. He failed the Lions, he failed
the city. I know people don't want to hear that today,
and oh look at where they are and all that.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I'll get them my point where you I disagree.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
And I'll say this is fireable. The performance that he
put up. Chris, I'm gonna go back to one other thing,
one last thing, and then I'll let you go. It's
just like what we saw last year with Brandon Staley
when they lost the twenty seven to nothing lead. I'm
just just hear me out Brandon Staley. At that point
(06:59):
a year, Chris, when they were up twenty seven to
nothing in the playoffs, you would have thought this guy
is good to go for years to come. And guess what,
now did they lose that playoff game. He continued to
do that stuff the next season, right, and then they
didn't make the playoffs and now he's out of a job.
You can't keep coaching like this, That's all I'm gonna
tell you.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
No way Dan Campbell should be fired. That is ridiculous.
I mean he he brought this team.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You say, let Lions fans down, Well, they wouldn't even
be here without Dan Campbell. That dude led them to
the first NFC championship game in thirty three years.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Thirty two years, and you want to fire him. Heck, gnaw,
twelve and five.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
They haven't haven't had a record that good since they
went to the last conference championship in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You're right, they won eleven and six. They went twelve
four years.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Now that ain't twelve and five, and that ain't getting
to the conference championship.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I look, I think he made mistakes.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I think the three things we talked about running it
at the end of the game on the goal line. Look,
I think they were the game. They weren't gonna win
that game at that point, but still it was a bag.
But it took away your any chance really that you
had of winning it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
The field.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I agree with both of the field goals that he
should have just taken the points.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
You and I have talked about that before.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
The playoffs is different, and he definitely should have went
for the tie. How do you knock on there's a
lot of time left, you would have momentum. Now San
Francisco ran down and scored on the next possession, but
still it's still a different game. I personally think the
Niners were the better team. They came out sleepwalking, the
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the Lions jumped on them. But the I think, regardless
of what Dan Campbell would have done, I think the
Niners would have won that game. Of course we don't know,
but I think they would have won it anyway because
they were the better team and started balling out in
the second half. But no, I'm with you and saying
(09:08):
he made the wrong moves. I'm with you and saying
he has got to find that happy medium between being
going forward on fourth downs, because that was that's been
successful for them, It's worked a lot, but also you've
got to settle down and sometimes take the points. Rob
it was the same thing against Dallas. Now that was
(09:29):
the regular season, but when he went, yeah, he went
for two, and every freaking at the seven yard line
after the penalties, he goes for two instead of kicking
the extra points. So I'm with you, but there's no
way that I am even contemplating firing Dan Campbell.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
After that, Dan Campbell let the forty nine ers off
the hook, and he also Chris, he said this to
his players after the game, and he's spot on. That
might have been our only chance and this was the
Lions chance. If you think the Lions are going back
to the NFC Championship game, are gonna be on the
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cusp of a Super Bowl up twenty four to seven
on the road again, you're kidding yourself.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Well, they may not be up twenty four seconds. I'm
just saying I don't know that they'll get there next
I'm just saying it is a.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Tough road when you're there and you can't and you
can't let that go by. You just can't because it's
you have to read the situation. And what he didn't do, Chris,
was the momentum factor. Just what you were talking about,
like there was a they would get it. They give
up twenty seven straight points, you have to stop the bleeding,
(10:37):
take the field goals. What what are you doing? What
are you trying to prove in this situation? I thought
he choked in a big spot and the Lions will
this will haunt them.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
This is one of the biggest collapses and NFC. It's
the biggest NFC is, you know, biggest comeback.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Or what what would the opposite be of the comeback
giveaway whatever in the NFC title game history, So it's huge.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Were I The only places I disagree with you on
is that I.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Don't think they cost them the game because I think
they were gonna lose anyway.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
And two, I there's no way I think you should
be fine.
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Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah, we're getting to the NBA Robin.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
This article by Hollinger was talking about this scoring explosion.
Now check this out, Rob, If you haven't been paying attention,
scoring is way up in the NBA, not only among
teams but individual players.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
All right, So here listen to this, Rob. This is incredible.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
From the start of the game, the first seven decades
of the history of the NBA, this is this was
up until January.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Rob, all right, seven decades, seventy years, only six players
had ever scored seventy or more points in an NBA game.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Six.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
It's happened four times.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Since January twenty twenty three, and twice in the last
two weeks. Lucas seventy three, MBAD has seventy recently, And
so that's just one of the examples. But scoring is
way up, which is good. It's good to have offense,
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but you don't want it to become you know, teams
essentially scoring all the time, and they're not scoring all
the time. The percentage of points or possessions they're scoring
on is only slightly higher than it's been in the past.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
But it's the three pointers, Rob.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You know, the teams are taken essentially about forty percent
of their shots are from three, so that's almost half.
Your shots are now worth three points instead of two.
So that's one reason scoring is up. And then because
of the threat of the three, defenses are stretched out
to the limit, right because they're guarding the three point line.
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Once you beat your defender, which is easy to do
if you got handled, and these dudes got handle and
you can't hand check Rob, so they can beat you
off the dribble, and then it's easy to get to
the bucket and score. And scoring on two point shots,
ROB is way up because teams aren't really taking nearly
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as many long mid range jumpers. They're getting all the
way to the hole or in the paint or short
mid rangers. So the offenses have become really good and efficient.
But the question is is all of this scoring good
for the game? You know, Rob, you know baseball, that's
your sport. I mean, we all love the home runs,
(14:46):
right with triples, exciting plays, stolen bases, But you don't
want softball out there, right, You don't want fifty Nobody
wont regular games from fifteen to twelve.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
So where are you out on this story spree in
the NBA?
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Chris?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I gotta admit I understand the NBA wanted to improve
the scoring. They were tired of the pistons and seventy
points and all that. I understood that, But what we're
watching now defensively where you can't do anything to players
and it's a free for all. All the European players
(15:25):
have told us it's so easy to score in the NBA,
and we have seen it, and what this game is
turned into. Your Steve Kerr recently just say how this
is just enough? Is enough? Chris? It's almost unwatchable night
after night. How many nights are we doing our radio
(15:47):
show and the update we get from Steve or somebody
and somebody's down by thirty five points in.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
The first time blowouts. That's the whole I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
But but it is just I don't think it's a
good product just to have scoring. And I'm not saying
we want to go back to seventy points. I don't
want to go back to seventy No, but I don't
like this NBA. I don't like all of these points.
And it's so easy and dip defenders are at a
disadvantage and they can't do anything to defend. That used
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to be a skill that was big Chris and the
Dennis Rodmans and Ben Wallace's and people would roll up
their sleeves and you know what I mean, and dig.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
In Jordan, and you know, even some of the best
offensive players, even Lebron was a great defender in.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
His heyday, right, and dig in Chris, It's okay. We
used to talk about the NBL a time Chris was
in the playoffs. Sometimes games came down to what getting
a stop at the end.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And it's not that they aren't putting forth effort on defense, Rob.
I think they've just, you know, offenses have become incredibly
efficient and they build everything around that three point line
and these guys are shooting it well and hitting the shots.
And again, because the floor is so spaced, you beat
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your man, which is easy to do when they can't
handguard you, right hand check you.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
And now it's just a free for all at the rim.
So I hear you.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I've said for a long time it wasn't necessary. I
didn't see this is the reason that scoring would be
way up. I just didn't I thought that. I think
there's a threshold, and I don't know that we've hit it,
but Rob, I think there's a there's I don't know
what it even is, but there's a threshold where when
(17:43):
you take so many threes, the game becomes junkie, it
becomes a caricature of itself. We've seen that with the
All Star Game, right, the All Star Game is not
fun to watch now. I know they're not defending hard
in that, but still they shoot so many three that
is just a joke.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
My answer to that route, and I think it.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Would help in this regard as far as the scoring, too,
would be to cut off the three point line at
either you know it's an arc, right, yeah, But I
don't know if you cut it off at the free
throw line extended or if you want to just cut
(18:28):
it off. You know where the arc ends and it
becomes a straight line. But basically you're eliminating that corner
and side three And to me, what that does is it,
Because you can't just put five minute the three or
three or four minute the three point line anymore and
run high, pick and roll and then kick it out.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
To them or our iso like that.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
What it would do is it would bring back postplay,
it would bring back mid range game, and you still
would have the three pointers. I think rob all sports
are better when there's a balance. We talked about it
with baseball.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Gotta be a ball all home runs. We don't want
a strikeouts and they and they may changes changes right
to make it so that we got bases and hit
and run and no shift, and we got guys on
the base pass and the brand of baseball was better
his past year, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Football, we don't want three yards in the cloud of dust.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But we don't want to real right, we don't want
to win them Football where you're throwing every down and
everything is a waste to the sticks, just run yep.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
And I think it's the same thing here.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You don't want all threes and layups or dunks. You
want a variety of the game. I mean you essentially
in a lot of cases, they're taking out parts of
the floor because guys are being taught in some franchises
not to shoot mid range jumpers or certainly long twos.
(19:59):
So I think that, in my view, that's something that
they might want to look at. I'm not as down
on the product as you, but there does need to
be some tweaking at the very least, because, like we said, right,
this isn't even what the article's about, but there seem
to be way more blowouts than ever.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Chris, that's the other part. And you're right, but but
even the number that he came up with, you know,
doing the research about seven decades and only six players
have done it. And now you know, like you got
what four this four in the fourth in the last year,
in the last year, four when it was six and
(20:38):
seven decades and now and then two in the last
two weeks, like like those are incredible numbers. But the blowouts,
and Chris, you talk about it on a nightly basis
when I'm bellyaching about the game, and it's because if
you're if you're hitting your threes and you have a
bad night with threes, you are down by thirty. Chris,
you have a bad night shooting three In.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
A lot of case, there's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, So I also think Rob that the style of
play as far as some teams, it's all the ball's
always in one guy's hands and he he is going
to You know, if you have the ball in your
hands all the time, your numbers are gonna be outrageous.
And Luka donca Is who scored seventy three, he's one
(21:26):
of those guys. Especially when Kyrie's not there, who you
know injured that game, it's always in his hands. Chauncey
Billips once told me when Chauncey was working at ESPN.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
This was about a decade ago, maybe a little longer.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
He said, Look, this is when the point guards were
really starting to put up these crazy numbers, and it
was looking like, man, this is the best era of
point guards ever.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
He said.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Man, if I dribbled the ball for fifteen to twenty
seconds and then either took the shot or passed it
to the guy that was gonna take the shot, my
numbers would have been crazy too. But that's not the
best way to win. So I also think that's a
part of it, Rob. So many of these teams revolve
around one or two players doing everything. That's what we
(22:11):
said with the Lakers. If they got a twenty five
point score. He ain't getting twenty five with them, Nope,
it won't happen.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
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Speaker 3 (22:29):
Until then, let's go to the NFL and talk about
Micah Parsons his podcast. You know, he had it all
season long and he'said some interesting things.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Was it yesterday, I guess it was yesterday.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
He had DeAndre Swift on with him, but he also
did a solo bit, which is what we're gonna hear.
But here's Micah talking about some of the things going
on with the Cowboys and their disappointing season.
Speaker 9 (22:57):
Yeah, so he said a lot, and depending on your perspective,
if Micah may or may not have thrown the Cowboys
front office, the Cowboys coaching staff, and his own teammates
under the bus. So first off, you know Jerry Jones
the headlines when he said they're could go all lay
in on twenty twenty four, Well, Micah had some thoughts
on that.
Speaker 10 (23:15):
Take a listen, We're going all in this year, man,
That's what I would hope for you know, I'm twenty
four years old. I've been in this league, you know,
three years, and I kind of seen it all. And
I hope that we go all in. I hope that
we go out and get the players that we're missing,
because we didn't do that this year.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
You know.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
I hope that we challenge ourselves, become better and become
greater for us.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
So the Cowboys, who had nine All pros apparently are
still missing some talent on that roster.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It's all right, Michah.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, here's the problem. He was saying all year that
they have enough. A few times before the season, as
they were entering the playoffs, he was telling Cowboy Nation
get ready for the Super Bowl parade, right, he said
that we get ready for the Super Bowl all right,
after the Niners whipped them by thirty two points, even
(24:03):
he said, I think we on their level.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Like he talked like they had enough, and I get it.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Maybe you say, well, you saw they didn't, Okay, but
he was talking all year long about they had enough.
And like you said, Rob G, nine Pro bowlers, it
looks like that prod' pro nine All pros.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
That's Pro bowlers obviously.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So you know, but he said a lot.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
He had a long podcast, and then he's responding to
some of the critics were saying, hey, you guys got
gashed in the run game against Green Bay Aaron Jones
brown roughshot, why didn't you move over to linebacker and
help stuff the run game? Well, mikel had answer for
that one too. Take a listen.
Speaker 10 (24:41):
At the end of the day, we were just outperformed,
out schemed.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
They had an answer for everything.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
People saying, well, why ain't you go to linebacker because
they said you can stop the run? Well, guess what
the packages are in for me to go to linebacker.
There's multiple packages, multiple variations, But I can only play
what is called whatever they're calling, whatever personnet they're putting on.
I'm not putting out personnel. I'm not putting out the
calls that nothing's coming from me. I do see a
(25:09):
Super Bowl in my future. I want to be a
Super Bowl champion. I challenge anyone to actually go look
at the game film and say, did.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
Mike could play his heart out?
Speaker 10 (25:17):
To go out like that at home was completely embarrassing
and unacceptable. It took me a while to even be
able to show my face in a public.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Well, look, I think we all would believe he played
his heart out, but he didn't play particularly well. And
thank you, Chris, right, I mean nobody. I don't think
anybody's questioning did you try? Their questioning why were you effective?
You're one of the best defender defensive players in.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
The league, Rob. I think he had one tackle?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah, well he had two tackles that game, one
solo tackle, one QB.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
It this Michael Parson.
Speaker 9 (25:51):
Well, Chris, it's funny you say that because Michael Parsons,
as he's been wont to do, you know, decided Hey,
I'm going to weigh in on my own performance, right,
and obviously was an embarrassing defensive showing by the Cowboys.
He didn't play particularly well, But if you ask him,
Michael Parsons wasn't the problem.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
I'm as complete peace, you know.
Speaker 10 (26:10):
Yeah, And I say that because I don't think I
could have done anything more to try to win that game.
And that comes to watching film with the other guys
in the room saying what I'm seeing being vocal out
there on the field. I was completely at peace because
I know I don't have no regrets about how I
(26:31):
performed or what I put into the game.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Thanks thanks for that. That's the podcast, Chris, that's what
we want for Michael Parsons. I appreciate it. I got
a new name for his podcast, turn his Micah off
because we got nothing.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
That was a pretty good one.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Chris to ninety and his analysis about himself and his team.
We'll get you on the subway because he gave me nothing.
We get it. These guys, Chris, they play in the game.
I have respect for them. If you want me to say,
if you want to tell me about what plays are
being called, and all the other stuff and the intensity
(27:15):
and the stuff that went on out buying to that.
But to go to these players and think you're gonna
get honest analysis of them, their friends, their teammates, You're
not gonna get it. It is a total waste of time.
(27:36):
Stop it. If you're gonna listen to the podcasts and
you're gonna give these guys numbers, demand that they give
you something so that you can listen to it and
feel that there's some worth there. There's nothing there. It's
a waste of time. I get it. He could have
a gazillion downloads because he's Michael Parson. He's for the Cowboys.
(28:02):
I understand that he'll have more downloads than I'll ever have,
and I'm fine with that. But I'll tell you what
you'll get when you listen to the odd couple podcasts.
You'll get an honest analysis of what went on, and
then you can make your own judgment of what happened.
It won't be one sided and biased because they're involved.
(28:26):
They want to play the game and report on the game.
Imagine that. And then his own analysis Chris, Oh, he
played great, you played great, You lost. You were embarrassed.
You should have stood up there and said, you know what.
Of course I didn't play well. No team I played
(28:47):
on would have given up forty eight points at home
in a playoff game. I have to play better, My
teammates have to play better, and we didn't get the
job done. Talking about he could sleep at Really, I'm
so tired of hearing these clips from these podcasts. A
total waste of time. All Right, I'm telling you the
(29:11):
new name of his podcast from a year on out,
turn off his Micah.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Well, I like your name for.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
It, turn off the Micah. That's very clever and well done.
I disagree, though, on the content. These dudes are unfiltered. Now, yeah,
he was wrong, he played poorly, but getting his honest
feeling like I think he honestly feels that way, and
that tells you something, Rob. Why didn't a lot of
(29:47):
players would go up there and say, you know what,
I didn't get it done.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I played badly. I gotta play better.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
He didn't do that, which gives you some insight into
Michael Parsons. Why didn't you just say I didn't show up,
I didn't get it done. So I disagree with you
on these podcasts not having any value.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Here's where I'm at on it.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
My issue is this, just like I say about Jerry Jones, Rob,
and you know this is not new.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
This is not a reaction to this season.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I have been saying for years that Jerry Jones wants
the spotlight.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Jerry Jones wants, you know, to make news.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
He wants to be on the talk shows, whether he's
actually on it or he's just the topic of conversation
or the Cowboys or the topic of conversation. He wants
the attention more than he wants a super Bowl. And
Micah Parsons is only following in those footsteps. Michaeh Parsons
doesn't need a podcast. What other player in the league
(30:56):
that's that young in any league? Maybe there is somebody.
I don't know of them. I'm thinking of the podcast
I know of. They're either veterans who have won championships,
Jason Kelsey and Travis Kelcey, Draymond Green, or Paul George
hasn't won a championship, but he's a veteran, all right.
(31:20):
Kevin Durantz got the boardroom veteran championships. And then there
are ex players KG, Paul Pierce, the knuckleheads, you know,
with Quentin Richardson and Daris Miles, all the smoke, Stephen
Jackson and Matt Barnes and all that stuff. But I
(31:42):
don't know, and maybe I'm missing it. But I can't
count too many. I can't count any that I know
of where it's a guy that young, hasn't reached his
full potential yet, hasn't won yet, and he's doing a podcast.
And Rob The point is, like Rob G said, he
(32:03):
threw He definitely threw the coaching staff under the.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Bus, right he said that like that, right, Oh, they
have packages. They just didn't put it a little bit.
They didn't run it yep, and we got out schemed.
We got out prepared. I don't know if he said prepared,
but we got our schemed. He definitely said that. That's
the coaches now.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I don't know if you can argue whether or not
he threw his teammates under the bus, like we need
to go get more we didn't have it this year.
That's debatable, but he definitely threw the coaches under the bus.
I don't think he did on purpose, but that's the
danger and rob.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I think Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
If Jerry Jones came out tomorrow and said next year,
or even on the first day of training camp and
said next.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Year, we are trying to do things differently.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
We're turning over a new leaf because we are tired
of not even being the freaking bridesmaids. We are tired
of underachieving, so we're gonna do something new.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I will not be talking to you this season. This
will be the last conversation you.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Have with me until we're being handed that NFC title trophy.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
If he said that, that.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Would take press, I believe, take some pressure off these players.
It would it would clear the air. The culture would
be different, and you could go to Michael Parsons and say, Micah, look,
I'm not talking to anybody this year because it's all football,
and I would like it if you didn't talk. I'm
(33:41):
not trying to take money out of your pocket. Heck,
I just paid you tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
But this year, man, let's focus on the football.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Once we win that ring, then do all the podcasts
you want.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
He could do that, he can't do that.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Now You're running your mouth after every game Upstate. You
coach you on the radio show locally every Tuesday. So
that's what I that's my issue with the podcast, not
that he he's saying whatever, you know what the content,
but he don't he puts his foot in his.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Mouth too much because he's a young guy.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I would have put my foot in my mouth at
that age, and so I think that that's my issue
with it.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Rob eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, I hear you.
I'm just saying, dude, I just couldn't. And I'm different,
I'm cut from a different cloth. I'm looking for some
I'm looking for content, but I'm looking for some context
to it. I'm looking for an honest I just I
don't think you could be honest, Chris, And it has
(34:45):
nothing to do with them knowing the game or obviously
they're playing in the game, but they can't be honest.
They can't that because they're compromised. They're in bed with
too many people. They're too many friends and too many things.
So you you ginger about about your comments when you
sit down on first things first, Chris, you know you're
not beholden to anybody. Okay, you know that. Am I
(35:08):
right or wrong? No, you're right, You're right jennings Greg
jennings On, And I said this to you before. And
I'm not going after anybody. There's a lot of guys
who I like in his business. But your show right
now is the number one show on Fox FS one
and have no former athletes. That's fine, Chris, that's the number.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
One sports show overall as far as these types of shows, PTI,
Michael Will.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
No former athletes, all right, And I'm not saying that
there's not a place for them, right. Fans don't want
to hear everything's great, Chris, that's not what they want
to hear.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Well, the ex players that make it that really get busy.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
That's what they hate.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Charles Barkleystely, they hate Charles Barkley. Why you're right about
that Rob being here a writer or a reporter or
you know who's it's gonna be honest and not you know,
wave pom poms and hold his tongue instead of an
ex player who's just gonna say, you know, protect his
friends and his coaches and you know, the league and
(36:12):
all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
So I am I do agree with you on that
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