February 7, 2024 • 45 mins
Chris Broussard and Rob Parker debate Eli Manning versus Patrick Mahomes in their Super Bowl performances, Greg Jennings joins the show, Randy Mueller stops by.
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We got Greg Jenny's Super Bowl champion joining us at
the bottom of EG hours. And with that said, let
me introduce my partner, Rob Parker.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
What up man? What's happened to mister Chris Buchard? How
are you man? I'm wonderful, brother man, wonderful.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Well, let me say Rob, Rob Woodson, the Hall of
Famer sends his regard. He was here Chris earlier doing
some interviews around so he said, hello, okay, so I
wanted to pass that message along. That's good, my god.
Here we are the middle of the week, a worship Wednesday.
We're getting it done hopefully tonight. I'm trying to squeeze
(02:18):
by Shannon Sharp's party and Colin Coward's party for the
volume here tonight after the program and.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
We Robbed g kicking it.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Rob Gen's going out. He don't care. He didn't want
to hang out with me last night. I just want
to say this, very quickly and succinctly.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
He ditched me at the party.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I felt like a girl that some guy picked up,
went to the thing and then found a better.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Looking girl at the party, Like that's how I felt
last night. You ditch me, I did? Did you? Wow?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Chris, I'm not kidding. We get we walking out, but
we go there together. We took I paid for the lift.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You're getting reimbursed? All right? Wow? I hold it on
my phone. How's that? And we go we get out.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
We walk in there together like, yo, come on, let's
do it because I'm the drink.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Had a nice good slice of pizza as soon as
we walked in.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Then Robs like, okay, So people started to come up
and talk to me a little bit.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Rob G's like, I want no part of that. Don't
gloss over that you. I got nine feet into the
door and.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Rob, Hey, what's up? I'm so and so?
Speaker 6 (03:26):
And that was rock talking every ten minutes. Then we
get a drink and then we walked three steps. Oh hey,
what's up?
Speaker 7 (03:31):
Rob?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
And then I don't know these people next to Ob
as he's talking to these other people.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
He did me, Chris, he did here. See he'll hang
when you when it's the three of us. He was
hanging with us. But now that he's.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Hanging because I'll split it up. Rob was hanging butterfly.
He don't want to be bad.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
He just there's no hanging.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Out with Rob He's like a like a senatorial candidate.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
W babies hunts people that know him. That person might
recognize me.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Let me go on there. Let me just kind of
go over there and make sure they see me. Well,
maybe with the sign I had on my back. Hey r.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Lord to say hi, I take photos. All right, let's
get into this. We got the odd couple crew of
course the super producer Rob G.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
You're already hearing him. But also we have.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Got DJ Alex Tyser aka Alex the Vegan on the
ones and the two's. We have got our man Elijah
Sebuna and soccer Patel on the social media and on
the updates. Is our man, the loquacious Ryan Finley. All right, Rob,
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let's get into this. We're obviously gonna talk some NFL
and Rob G explain the Sports Illustrated article that.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
We're gonna play off of.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
So Sports Illustrated shared a call him on Wednesday, listing
the top twenty five Super Bowl performances by a quarterback. Now,
obviously there's been some great ones. So there are a
few guys who were on there multiple times. Tom Brady
was on there, four different times, Joe Montana three, Kurt
Warner twice, and the top three in order were Steve
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Young for his Super Bowl, Doug Williams which was great,
Doug Williams, what was that second quarter?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Which was uh, that.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Was and then number three kind of shocking, and until
you really think about it, Nick Foles for what he did.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
He made every throw in that Super Bowl and remember that,
Yeah he was and.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Tom So those were the right threw three touchdowns and
caught we caught one right.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, there's no doubt. You gotta give him problem. But
what's funny is when you call him through the top.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Twenty five, one name that is absent, shockingly is Chris
Brussard's greatest quarterback of all time, Patrick Mahomes, I mean
not listed or the best quite back not listed amongst
the top twenty five Super Bowl performances by a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Okay, okay, well, Ron G.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Parker has an incredible statement you're about to make.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Well, I'm not totally surprised by this at all, because
Patrick hasn't had that moment, and Sports Illustrated just proved
that that they could pick twenty five other quarterback moments.
Dealing with the quarterback in the history of the NFL,
and Patrick Mahomes not be attached to one of them.
(06:38):
I mean, as that's not telling. It tells you about
Patrick Mahomes. And see, he's won two Super Bowls. Nobody's
taken that away from him. And he's won two Super
Bowl MVPs. Okay, but during his three Super Bowl appearances,
sixty one point eight completion rate, five touchdowns, four picks,
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been sacks seven times, and a quarterback rating of seventy
nine point seven.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Hard again, can you read those against me?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Five touchdowns, four picks, seven sacks, seventy nine point seven
passer rating. Okay, And my point is this, if you're
talking about the regular season, I'm with you on Patrick Mahome.
But if you're talking about the Super Bowl, I would
take Eli Manning over Patrick Mahome.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
What any day, what any hour, any time.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Eli Manner's not gonna be a GM in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Eli Manning.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Is the man when you talk about a quarterback in.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Those big moments.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I don't care about his regular seasons.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Eli Manning ninety.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Six point two quarterback rating, three touchdowns, one interceptions. Here's
the best part. He beats his goat twice. He's beaten
Tom Brady twice. Eli Manning's I'm bad of the greatest
throws in Super Bowl history, including that pass to Manningham.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And baby got the old David Tyreeve. That was lucky.
That wasn't even to win the game.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
He still had to throw a touchdown to Plexico Burris
to win the Super Bowl. He beat the eighteen and
old Patriots. Nobody was supposed to win. Tom Brady laughed
when they said how many points the Patriots were gonna
score in that game.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And Eli Manning.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Has been a better producer in the Super Bowl than
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And I would take Eli any day, any day.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Over Patrick Mahomes in a Super Bowl. It ain't even close.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You should be embarrassed by saying that you should get
up right now, walk off the stage and hand the
mike to Rob g and say I'm done, I'm going home.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
You handle the show from here, because that is a
horrible take.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Eli Manning wouldn't even take himself over Patrick Mahomes in
the Super Bowl. You can read off all the statue
want nobody would take Eli Manny over Patrick Mole. I
ask every guest we have tonight and see what they say.
See what they say. We're gonna ask Greg. Jenny's at
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the bottom of this hour.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Look, I don't want to take anything away from Eli
Eli in the Super Bowl. He did win two Super Bowls,
so we want to give him credit. I'm not trying
to diss him, but I don't care how you slice it.
He is not on the same level as Patrick Mahomes
in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I'm not gonna sit here and call the past Tyree.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I mean because Eli made a great just scrambling getting
away from the sack. He made a great throw, and
Kyrie made an awesome catch, and so I don't want
to sit here in dis Eli. I like Eli, but
come on, man, Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes has had in
both of his Super Bowl victories. He has had comebacks
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in the fourth quarter both of his Super Bowl victories.
He threw two touchdowns in the fourth quarters in each
of the games.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Two fourth quarter touchdowns when they were down ten with.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Seven minutes left against the San Francisco forty nine ers
to rally them from an eleven from a ten point deficit.
Two touchdowns in the fourth quarter against the Philadelphia Eagles
last year to rally them from what had been a
ten point down against the defense that was arguably the
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best in the league last year. As they led, they
were historic in their sacks, and that San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Defense was a very good defense.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I think both of them were number two in total
defense if I'm not mistaken those years. So let's not
act like Patrick Mahons has been chopped delivered.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
One really bad game was Tampa Bay win.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
His offense, and no excuses, but his offensive line was
banged up and the Buccaneers were all over it. They
got stomped thirty one to nine I think was a score.
So no, no excuse for that. But he was great
last year. He only threw for one hundred and eighty
something yards, but he had three touchdowns. Yeah, because he
had three touchdowns no picks in a win, like he
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was really good. And then, like I said, the two
touchdowns in the fourth quarter to come back and win.
And then he started off poorly against the Niners, two
interceptions in the first three quarters, but when it was
gut crunching time, he came through with the two touchdowns
and the late rally, and so no, I mean right,
(12:08):
he's just a better quarterback than Eli. Many numbers don't
bear without fine.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Is a better quarterback in the Super Bowl than Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
It ain't even close.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You're right, it's not even Mahomes is way better.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's number se that's one number.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Say ride that brock Party had a better season than
Joe Montan or Steve Young ever had.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Who's better? Who's met you about the Super Bowl? Talk
about numbers? Facts and Felix watch the game? Who's better?
Put out twenty five moments?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Twenty five quarterback moments and super Bowls and Patrick Mahomes
that Chris just said.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Mean nothing to me. Don't even wait.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
He not even in the top ten, not even in
the top fifteen. Mowy, he not even Moti twenty five.
Hold well, I can give you the top twenty five,
he says. You want to give a publication so much credit?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
No, No, CBS Sports put out their top twenty quarterbacks
in the Super Bowl. And guess who was rated ahead
of Eli Manny Patrick Mahons plone.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It can't be body Bus. It can't be because he
beat the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
He was actually raided ahead, including the AC and old Patriots.
He was the only one to slay him, and he
was the one who delivered big signature throws. I'm still
waiting for Patrick Mahomes to throw a signature throw in
the Super Bowl. He doesn't have one. He has a
four yard touchdown pass.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I'm talking Eli threw a past to demanding him that
I still can't imagine was thrown or caught. It was
the most unbelievable throw I've ever seen. And I've been covering.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
This league since nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
For all you young journalists report wanna be journalist reporters
out there, this is an example of someone Rob doesn't
even believe what he's saying. What do you I know
you you don't know thirty years you don't know?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
What do you not believe this?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
This is a This is the epitome when you look
up hot take in the dictionary.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
This is what it would be.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Rob would be a picture of Rob Parker and this
date underneath his name. Because this is only being said
because he knows it's ridiculous, knows nobody believes it.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, there's a little bit of evidence for him to
grab a hole of a little bit about.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Because he thinks, oh, this is gonna nobody else has
said this.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
This is gonna really move the needle.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'm gonna get a bunch of views on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
People are gonna say my name, That's what this is
all about. I can look at you, Rod. You do
not believe. I don't believe in you say something conviction.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You might as well be on You might as well
be at the Gotham Comedy Club in Manhattan because you
don't believe a word of what you just said. And
young reporters wanna bees just because you yell doesn't make
it right.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
And you know, and I'm gonna ask Rob g because
he knows nobody has defended Eli Manning more than me.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Rod would sit exact Hall of Fame when Rob Woodson said.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
That he wouldn't even wear his jacket or whatever if
Eli got in. And remember I pushed back on Rod
about about Eli. Because Chris ain't no way got in
the Hall of Fame what he's been able to do.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I still make it there is a way if he
had done that in Minnesota, I don't think he's in
the super in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Jim the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
If the mediocre regular season quarterback is not just super
Bowls maybe. Like I said, I'm not gonna have a
problem with Eli makes it. But Rob, you know, everything
in New York is magnified. I'm not sure he's this
Hall of Famer if he does it in Indianapolis or somewhere else.
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Or Eli manning your thoughts?
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Who are you rather in the Super Bowl? Be a quarterback?
(17:55):
Patrick Mahomes or don't laugh, Eli me your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
That's Jade.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
The callers don't laugh. Don't laugh. Come on, Chris, let
them think for themselves. Peter and Honolulu, you're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
What's up? Peter?
Speaker 7 (18:15):
What's up? Guys? How are you called in? As soon
as you started the segment, and then while while you
were talking about it, I looked at the article. Okay,
one how Phil Simms isn't the top performance ever, I
don't know. He was twenty two or twenty five, and
they were three drops, you know what I mean against
Tobaccos on that. I don't know how that's not listed
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number one. How that's only the fifth?
Speaker 10 (18:40):
Was it listed?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (18:42):
It listed it.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
It was the fifth one. But he had three drops
in that game, and he was twenty two or twenty five.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
All right, he was almost perfect, I got you all right?
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Now, Well, these were hosts for a Super Bowl, right this? Ye,
this is gonna be his fourth. I can't think of
a single play that stands out that he made in
a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You can't because there isn't one. It's just says there
isn't one. It's just a bunch of good.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Players there twice and he's got two plays that are
going to be shown highlight film for the history.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
As you this, let me ask for the history of
the NFL. Let me ask you this, and you might
be ab to come up with me. Can you remember
any play by Jerry Rice in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 7 (19:36):
There's a couple of catches, but nothing really stands out.
The Swan and Starwarcks.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You remember Swan, right, so who would you. Lynn Swan was.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
My favorite player ever, Like as a kid, he was
my favorite player. I would not take Lynn Swan over
Jerry Rice in the Super Bowl. And so I have
some of the best check catches ever.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That's just my point. I mean Star Wars two. Yeah,
but that b Ratshaw.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Brashaw was much better in the Super Bowls than he
was in the regular season.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
But get him over and Bradshaw was fairly top ten
on this list in that game.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
All right, Hey, Peter, thanks for the call, appreciated. Thank
Perry and Louisville. You're on they couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
What's up, Perry?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
What's going on? Fellas? Love to show respectly, thank you.
I'm gonna keep it real short and simple and hang up, Rob.
You're talking real good and crazy right now, man, c
you know we knows right it's Pat Mahomes the collar
before you as well. You know people are y'all are
overthinking that too much. Man.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Now, that side just showed you. They gave you twenty
five moments of the order back and Patrick hen he
ain't even twenty six.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
He was so bad.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
He's not even twenty six like moments, not the whole
game moments.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
God, bless y'all have a great evening.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, it is all right. Let me give me squeeze
one more in. We got Dmitri in Scottsville. You're on
the eye a couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up?
Speaker 7 (21:01):
Tomitrie, Hey, Rob, mister Parker, I know.
Speaker 11 (21:05):
Let me let me tell you something, my friend.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Listen, it's Black History Month and I don't want to
go in on you.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
What.
Speaker 11 (21:10):
I wait for March first, and I'm gonna call you
back and then I'm gonna get on you. But here's
what the deal is.
Speaker 12 (21:16):
If you take a look at.
Speaker 11 (21:17):
That Super Bowl against Tampa Bay, that was his worst
Pat Patman, Patrick Mahomes worst game, Okay, and this dude
played that game of one leg with a beat up
offensive line.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Nobody, nobody, nobody cares. Because there are moments you know.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
No, no, let me stay, let me say this, because
nobody talks about when Aaron Rodgers and the and the
and the Packers lose and give up forty five points
on defense.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Nobody said, well, you don't have a DVA. What do
you want him to do? No, that's that's that's what he.
Speaker 11 (21:55):
Let me finish my thought here, what my thought was
on this? He had three drops that should have been touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yes, should have, would have, could off, should have, would have,
could up. We don't want to play that game. We
can sit here all day and you know what, Zay
Flowers shouldn't have fumbled that ball to the for the Ravens.
They would have won that game and they wouldn't even
be here. We could play that game all day. Okay,
the Lions should have kicked the field goals and they
would be in the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You want to play that game.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
It's a lazy game and it ain't gonna solve anything.
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renaissance man.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I also love Greg because he's he's not about his feelings.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
He's more about facts.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
So when you lay the facts out, Greg always comes
through with the honest answers.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
He's not emotional, he's not a fanboy. He's just talking
about leading the witness.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I'm just saying, Wow, Okay, Greg, Jenny's welcome.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Let's let's get into this.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Greg.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Greg number saying Rod Parker just made a statement where
he's saying in super Bowls, not play remember and Super
super Bowls, he would rather have Eli Manning than Patrick Mahomes.
I said, he's out of his mind. Hold on, Greg,
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before you go there, before you he knows the games.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
One. You don't have to, Greg. You don't want nonsense
in his mind. No, no, no, Greg. Let the man
think for himself. I know. But the reason we bring
too much football to agree with your madness.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Okay, Greg, Greg, the only reason we're bringing this up
is Sports Illustrated put out a list of twenty five
greatest performances by no, not performances, moments moment in the
Super Bowl, two different moment moments twenty five and Patrick
Mahomes had a moment.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Patrick Lebron James didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Make not one moment out of those twenty five because
he hasn't had a signature moment in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Okay, Greg, that's it.
Speaker 10 (24:28):
Yeah, I'm with you looking at that list, said Eli
Manning should be on the list.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
However, Rock thank you, Greg, you didn't say anything yet, Chris,
I know what hebout.
Speaker 10 (24:39):
I'm not taking Eli manning if I gotta go and
win a Super Bowl in a Super Bowl over Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Patrick Mahomes has five touchdowns, four picks, a quarterback rating
of seventy nine. Eli beat the eighteen and old Patriots
beat Tom Brady. Chris is go by himself.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
He has two signature throws. Greg, you could appreciate Eli.
That throw to Manningham that might be one of the
greatest throws and catches I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
In pro football history. He also made.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
An umblybelievable play to keep that play alive, escape the sack,
throw the ball of David Tyree. And not only that
that wasn't if you call that lucky, he still does
the touchdown to Plaxico to win that game.
Speaker 10 (25:31):
Absolutely agree with all of what you're saying. But you're
crazy if you say that game thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
That's what I'm talking about. Ain't it's nothing this he
lied nobody. He lies great.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I'm not taking Robert Rory over Steph because he might
have more moments and a big and a big moment
for a big shot that I need.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I'm taking Robert Rory over Steph a hundred times out
of one hundred times.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Greg. You know, Steph has never made a big shy.
This is why Rob is a broadcaster, not a GM.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Greg.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
All right, so break this down for us, Greg, this game.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Look, as you know, I'm looking, I'm gonna make my
pick on Friday.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I'm looking at these two teams. I gotta be honest,
there is a lot of reason.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Like Kansas City, I think obviously the Niners had the
best regular season, but in the playoffs the Chiefs have
been much better.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Do you feel how you feeling about this matchup?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (26:33):
Look, both teams, you could argue, have a great opportunity
in front of them, and as I mentioned on the
show today, like both teams truly believe that this is
their moment, and you can argue either side. When you
look at Patrick Mahomes and what they've been able to do.
You know, I doubted that they could even get here.
I truly doubted that they could get here, just because
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of what we had seen the throughout the course of
the season.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Quarterback ever, you doubted him?
Speaker 10 (27:05):
Yeah, it wasn't just that I doubted him, because it's
not just him that has to play. I doubted the
fact that those others around him could couldn't lessen the
margin the margin for error in the postseason based on
what we had seen in the regular season, and they
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stepped up to the test and they knocked out the
party thus far. And when you look at the other side,
what brock Berdy has been able to do? I mean,
for me, I look, I've said he was a good quarterback.
I believe he's always been a good quarterback. I just
didn't believe that he was elite and that he had
the game breaking skills to where if the ball is
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in his hand and you need him to make a play,
however that play needs to be made, he could make it.
And he showed that against Detroit. I don't care who
the opponent is. We can talk the opponent, but he
made those plays when they needed to be made.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
With this team down Greg the thing I think when
I look at the San Francisco forty nine ers is
their comeback ability, Like they should have lost both playoff.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Games, yep.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
And what does that do for a team knowing that
you know you might get.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Off to a bad start, something bad could happen.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah, I mean, they're down twenty four to seven at
home against the Lions.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
People are the Lions fans are in the.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Stands of booking tickets and flights to the Super Bowl
during the game, you know, thinking that they're going and
they wind up coming back and winning those games.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
What does that do for confidence of a team that already.
Speaker 10 (28:48):
Was good, Well, it really gives you this belief that
you are always in the game, there's always a chance,
and no one wants to get down seventeen in a
conference championship or beach railing by double digits in any game. However,
when you've shown the ability to overcome bad play by
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not just an individual, but individuals on both sides of
the football as a team collectively, and everybody turns on
the switch and everybody elevates their level of play, and
the offense does what they need to do, and then
the defense finally stops all the opposing offenses from getting
in the end zone or adding points on the scoreboard.
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Like that gives you the utmost confidence in any situation.
And there are a lot of guys on this current
forty nine ers roster that experience the other side of
that in this very game, like being up and then
watching a team fight back and then not be able
to counter with with scores. So they've been on both sides.
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Some of these guys have been on both sides of it,
and it feels good going into it knowing we can
play with the league and play without the league and
still find a way to win.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You mentioned Purty earlier with the comebacks, and obviously people
have questioned him on that. But how confident are you
in him? You know, he had a couple of bad,
really bad games, but obviously was he played well for
most of the season. But how confident are you that
in this big moment he's not gonna throw the game away?
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I mean, he may not have the greatest game, but
are you concerned that he might have one of those
stinkers like he did against Baltimore or maybe Cleveland and
doesn't even give his team a chance.
Speaker 10 (30:39):
Look as a viewer, as a fan, that's always a concern.
When you are playing in the game like this, you
don't even let those thoughts into your mind. And so
being on both sides of it, now, like I understand
rock Ferdy's approach of self talk and understanding that all
he has to do is be what he's been, and
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they will have a chance when the game is on
the line. What can't happen is the things that we've
seen him do, which we see any anyone do when
they're having a bad game, which is not be who
they've been or who you expect them to be, or
who that team or that unit needs them to be
in those moments. What Rock Party has shown us is
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the ability to literally like as if it didn't happen,
turn a switch, turn the page, and then start fresh
and start with a vengeance like for a young quarterback
to be able to do. I got to admit I've
been very impressed. It's really in this in that championship
game against the Lions about.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
That if mister irrelevant beats the goat Patrick Mahomes in
the Super Bowl, what will that say to you? And
will Patrick Mahomes fall out of that Got conversation if
he loses to Brock Party.
Speaker 10 (31:59):
So I don't think he'll fall out of the Gold conversation.
And there's no way that Patrick Maholmes while he's playing,
can fall out of the Gold conversation, Brad, because because
at because at some point, at some point, based on
the trajectory or what we will see out of brock
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Party moving forward. We'll see if he's mister Irrelevant, he'll
fall off the face. But if he is, we can't
keep saying if if, if he ends up winning this game,
brock Party being he and their careers go on, and
we know what the trajectory that Patrick Mahome is on
and brock Party has a decent to a above average career,
(32:42):
You're not We're not going to be saying he lost
to mister irrelevant, but we don't.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Look at you.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
No matter what, do you? Warner worse than that, Chris.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Is a Hall of Famer or a guy that was
never driven.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Warner one an m v P is rookie year to
fifty touchdowns. He he wasn't that party. He wasn't Greg, Greg.
Nobody ever questioned Kirk Warner at all.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
He was.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
They didn't question him Rob.
Speaker 10 (33:22):
He had to have been questioned when he wasn't drafted.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Thank you, Chris, unbelievable. All right, we gotta run, Greg,
Thank you man, great stuff. Have a good night. Greg.
I still love you. I want you to love you, man.
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He's a Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst. Our man Randy Mueller. Randy,
how are Andy?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (34:10):
We doing happy super Bowl week?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yes? And this is a most respect for you. I mean, there, there,
there are.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
You know, media night for the Super Bowl is known
for crazy questions.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Oh here we go.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
But I'm gonna let Rob Parker ask you, by far,
the craziest question you have ever heard. It's not crazy,
so so Randy, and don't be swayed by I'm setting
it up Randy. Sports Illustrated came out with a list
of the twenty five Ratus cornerback Super Bowl moments. Moment,
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no game, no no performances, Chris, It's performances and it's performances.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
And there were twenty five slots. Patrick Mahomes was not
on one of them. Was not on one single of
those quarterback performances. And my thing that Chris is very
simply if you're talking about Super Bowl.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
Not.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
You know, full body of work and lifetime achievement. I'm
talking about performance in the Super Bowl. Randy, Okay, you
got me. Yeah, I would take Eli Manning over Patrick
Mahomes one hundred out of one hundred times.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
And Eli Manning has.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Two signature throws in the Super Bowl, some of the
greatest throws and catches I've seen.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
He also beat the eighteen and oh Patriots.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
He'd beat Tom Brady Christenson is to go twice and
Patrick Mahomes is one of his numbers not that impressive
five touchdowns, four picks and a passive quarterback rating of
seventy nine.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Eli's got three touchdowns two games. Like he's been lighting
it up world that exists in which I'm taking Eli.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Over in the Super Bowl, I'm taking Eli. Even taking Eli.
Speaker 12 (36:09):
Chris. It sounds like I'm the referee here, Like I
don't like I will say this. Eli was best at
the biggest moments and yes those were two you know
giants stays in the sun. Would I take him over
Pat Mahomes if you're talking about playing a game or.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Just in Super Bowl and the Super Bowl, I.
Speaker 12 (36:35):
Guess, I mean, I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
That's Robbie's trying to be nice.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
No, Ready, that.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Throw him Manningham up the sideline. Is that not one
of the greatest throws and catches we've seen?
Speaker 12 (36:50):
Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
It was good.
Speaker 12 (36:51):
He's had some big moments. I gotta give you that that. Yeah,
he's Chris, He's not completely nuts.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Okay, I mean yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (37:02):
Ready.
Speaker 12 (37:03):
I don't know if I would compare the two in
any way obviously that the point you're making is that
Eli was was taking advantage of some of the best
plays that we've ever seen in the Super Bowl. I
don't disagree with that, but I don't know the questions.
I think you were trying to lead the witness and
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yeah it was well.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
The quarter that's all good. He's not even trying to
just give Eli props. He's really trying to rip Patrick. No,
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I aren't you surprised that s I could make a
list of twenty five quarterback performances and Patrick Mahome not
being any for God's won two Super Bowl Seriously.
Speaker 12 (37:48):
I'm surprised at that because if he wins Sunday, he
will have done something no player in the history of
the league has ever done, so you would think there
would just be a slight lean into that possibility happening.
But yeah, I agree with you. He's he may be
the greatest of all time. He's gonna pass the first
seven years of what anybody's done, so right, I would
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surely try to consider him, that's for sure, Randy.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I'm, for one am surprised that San Francisco is the favorite,
Like I think, I'm not saying they don't have a chance.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I actually think they do have a chance.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I might even pick them, but I think objectively, especially
if we're looking at the last month of football, you
would think and then they got Mahomes versus I'm a
big fan of brock Purty. But still, he's in his
first Super Bowl. He's the third youngest quarterback everything, in
his first year as a starter, you know, third youngest in.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
The Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
So do you see, like why they would favor San
Francisco And what's the case for San Francisco winning this,
you know, winning this game.
Speaker 12 (38:54):
Here's my idea of what you're saying. I totally agree,
hundred percent, and I've said from day one, the wrong
team's favorite.
Speaker 10 (39:00):
But obviously we.
Speaker 12 (39:01):
Know how the oddsmakers are right more than they're wrong.
I think it is about matchups, and I'm with you, Chris.
I think the matchups favor the Chiefs. These guys played
a couple of years ago and Pat Mahomes went off
for four hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I don't know where seeing that Patrick Mahomes issue. I'll
tell you that.
Speaker 12 (39:18):
Well, we've seen him pretty sharp though the last two weeks,
and I've seen a.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Different they and the second half against the Ravens they
got nothing.
Speaker 12 (39:26):
He was as good as I've ever seen him in
the first half. So it's both into the spectrum for sure.
I just don't know the Chiefs can slow up Pat Mahomes.
I just think it is going to be about more
people than the quarterback, that's for sure, on both sides.
And I think the key to the game is a
running game that's going to take the pressure off of
either one of them. But I like the matchups for
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Kansas City. I just see Spagnola against Purdy. I like Spagnola.
I like what he can do from different variety of coverages.
I like Mahomes, I like Pacheco. I like the way
the Chiefs are since the line has played the last
couple of weeks, and this is not the rated defense
that they're facing. Trust me, I think the forty nine
Ers secondary is shaky at best. So I'm with Chris,
(40:09):
I think the wrong team's favorite, and I'll probably be
totally wrong, but I would check definitely lean toward Mahomes
and the Points for sure.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
I think you guys are are looking like the forty
nine ers with a team that all year was supposed
to be in the Super Bowl, not the Chiefs, and
I get all you're saying of late, but sometimes Randy,
the pressure of trying to fulfill that is the tough part.
They struggled in two games in the playoffs, but they
came back and won two big playoff games, which.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Says a lot about the character of that team.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
They could have folded to the Lions or just said like,
this is not our day and it's not gonna happen,
and instead they could now breathe and just play this
game without the pressure of trying to get there. Do
you buy that that sometimes, like with the Ravens, just
trying to get to the Super Bowl can be a
you know, beat, a hard game to win.
Speaker 12 (41:03):
I just think their margin Freyr was greater in some
of these other games, and we've all kind of beat
up on Dan Campbell. I don't think that Andy Reid
is going to act in that irrational fashion when it
comes to making decisions. I think they were handed the
Detroit game more than they actually went and won it.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
But having scored twenty seven straight points right in the second.
Speaker 12 (41:23):
Half, and Purdy was big, Purty was big beyond any
quarterback that Shanahan's had in some moments because he broke
that string and nobody else could do it. So I
think it's an interesting matchup. I don't think the margin
Freyr is for San Francisco to play down and come
back at the end. I think Kansas City will have
the upper hand and I think it's going to be
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that way throughout.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
What Randy, what do you think about Like Kyle Shanahan,
we know the big games.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
We can think of three of them.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
The Rams in the NFC Title Game, they're up ten
heading into the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Obviously, the Super Bowl against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Biggest, the biggest jump and ten you know midway through
the fourth quarter. And then when he was in Atlanta
as the offensive coordinator up twenty eight to three, against
Tom Brady and the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
How much of this do you put on Shanahan.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
We know everybody gives him credit deservedly so for being
a great play caller, and you know offensively he's very smart,
but doesn't he have to wear those failures?
Speaker 3 (42:31):
And how much of that do you put on him?
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Well?
Speaker 12 (42:36):
I put a lot on him. Obviously, their downfield passing
game is not up to speed, and it was evidenced
by all the numbers that were against them when they
were behind by seven or more points, and that was
an over string and that's right. Yeah, Purty has taken
him above that. They broke that string now, but the
downfield passing game that has to be questioned, especially when
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you're behind, when the play action passed doesn't matter. You
can't play action pass when you're behind by two scores.
It doesn't slow anybody up. So that's the difference. It
hasn't been an offense that's been a good come from
behind offense. Now Purdy can maybe take them a little
further with his big playability when it really counts, but
I don't know. I think the offense itself is predicated
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on how good McCaffrey can be and how much they
can kind not in a traditional running game way, but
they need to control the ball to keep you know,
the Chiefs off the field and Mahomes off the field.
We'll see if they can do that. But I'm with you,
I'm I'm a little shaky on the system, especially when
they get behind.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
What if the Chiefs and Mahomes losers to mister irrelevant
and the forty nine is what would you make of
that as far as like you liked?
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Was that a super Bowl that got away?
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Or would would that be chalked up as maybe just
brock perty Is is better than maybe people want to
believe if he's able to be Patrick Mahomes and slay
the dragon, because it could change the way Patrick Mahomes
has looked at it. If he's two and two instead
of three and one at the start of his career.
Speaker 12 (44:12):
Well, I don't think it'd be the biggest upset in
the world if the favorite wins.
Speaker 7 (44:15):
So I get well, but.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
We got to also remember when when we talk about favors,
I tell Chris Vegas is just trying to get people
a bet money on both sides.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
They're not predicted who's going to win.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
It's not based on who's going to win if they
pick Kansas City, you know what I mean, and people will.
They're trying to get you to bet both sides so
that they can win. That's the only reason why the
forty nine is a favorite. I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
That's how it is. You the only ones.
Speaker 12 (44:42):
They're two good teams. They're two good teams, win or lose.
Pat Mahomes is going to be back. I like the
way the Chiefs have constructed their team because I think
it's really sustainable. They're in a much better position capwhite
the long haul than the forty nine ers are. So
I just like their makeup going forward, so I don't
look at it be as much as a missed opportunity
or it's just another opportunity and then they'll be back.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
All right. That's our man, Randy Mueller.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Randy, thank you, Randy.
Speaker 12 (45:13):
All Right, guys, say all right.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
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Rob Gen's going out. He don't care. He didn't want
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He ditched me at the party.
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I felt like a girl that some guy picked up,
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Speaker 3 (02:41):
Looking girl at the party, Like that's how I felt
last night. You ditch me, I did? Did you? Wow?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Chris, I'm not kidding. We get we walking out, but
we go there together. We took I paid for the lift.
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You're getting reimbursed? All right? Wow? I hold it on
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We walk in there together like, yo, come on, let's
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Had a nice good slice of pizza as soon as
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Yep.
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Then Robs like, okay, So people started to come up
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And that was rock talking every ten minutes. Then we
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And then I don't know these people next to Ob
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He did me, Chris, he did here. See he'll hang
when you when it's the three of us. He was
hanging with us. But now that he's.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Hanging because I'll split it up. Rob was hanging butterfly.
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He just there's no hanging.
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let's get into this. We're obviously gonna talk some NFL
and Rob G explain the Sports Illustrated article that.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
We're gonna play off of.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
So Sports Illustrated shared a call him on Wednesday, listing
the top twenty five Super Bowl performances by a quarterback. Now,
obviously there's been some great ones. So there are a
few guys who were on there multiple times. Tom Brady
was on there, four different times, Joe Montana three, Kurt
Warner twice, and the top three in order were Steve
(05:20):
Young for his Super Bowl, Doug Williams which was great,
Doug Williams, what was that second quarter?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Which was uh, that.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Was and then number three kind of shocking, and until
you really think about it, Nick Foles for what he did.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
He made every throw in that Super Bowl and remember that,
Yeah he was and.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Tom So those were the right threw three touchdowns and
caught we caught one right.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, there's no doubt. You gotta give him problem. But
what's funny is when you call him through the top.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Twenty five, one name that is absent, shockingly is Chris
Brussard's greatest quarterback of all time, Patrick Mahomes, I mean
not listed or the best quite back not listed amongst
the top twenty five Super Bowl performances by a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Okay, okay, well, Ron G.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Parker has an incredible statement you're about to make.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Well, I'm not totally surprised by this at all, because
Patrick hasn't had that moment, and Sports Illustrated just proved
that that they could pick twenty five other quarterback moments.
Dealing with the quarterback in the history of the NFL,
and Patrick Mahomes not be attached to one of them.
(06:38):
I mean, as that's not telling. It tells you about
Patrick Mahomes. And see, he's won two Super Bowls. Nobody's
taken that away from him. And he's won two Super
Bowl MVPs. Okay, but during his three Super Bowl appearances,
sixty one point eight completion rate, five touchdowns, four picks,
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been sacks seven times, and a quarterback rating of seventy
nine point seven.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Hard again, can you read those against me?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Five touchdowns, four picks, seven sacks, seventy nine point seven
passer rating. Okay, And my point is this, if you're
talking about the regular season, I'm with you on Patrick Mahome.
But if you're talking about the Super Bowl, I would
take Eli Manning over Patrick Mahome.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
What any day, what any hour, any time.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Eli Manner's not gonna be a GM in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Eli Manning.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Is the man when you talk about a quarterback in.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Those big moments.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I don't care about his regular seasons.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Eli Manning ninety.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Six point two quarterback rating, three touchdowns, one interceptions. Here's
the best part. He beats his goat twice. He's beaten
Tom Brady twice. Eli Manning's I'm bad of the greatest
throws in Super Bowl history, including that pass to Manningham.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And baby got the old David Tyreeve. That was lucky.
That wasn't even to win the game.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
He still had to throw a touchdown to Plexico Burris
to win the Super Bowl. He beat the eighteen and
old Patriots. Nobody was supposed to win. Tom Brady laughed
when they said how many points the Patriots were gonna
score in that game.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And Eli Manning.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Has been a better producer in the Super Bowl than
Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And I would take Eli any day, any day.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Over Patrick Mahomes in a Super Bowl. It ain't even close.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You should be embarrassed by saying that you should get
up right now, walk off the stage and hand the
mike to Rob g and say I'm done, I'm going home.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
You handle the show from here, because that is a
horrible take.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Eli Manning wouldn't even take himself over Patrick Mahomes in
the Super Bowl. You can read off all the statue
want nobody would take Eli Manny over Patrick Mole. I
ask every guest we have tonight and see what they say.
See what they say. We're gonna ask Greg. Jenny's at
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the bottom of this hour.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Look, I don't want to take anything away from Eli
Eli in the Super Bowl. He did win two Super Bowls,
so we want to give him credit. I'm not trying
to diss him, but I don't care how you slice it.
He is not on the same level as Patrick Mahomes
in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I'm not gonna sit here and call the past Tyree.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I mean because Eli made a great just scrambling getting
away from the sack. He made a great throw, and
Kyrie made an awesome catch, and so I don't want
to sit here in dis Eli. I like Eli, but
come on, man, Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes has had in
both of his Super Bowl victories. He has had comebacks
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in the fourth quarter both of his Super Bowl victories.
He threw two touchdowns in the fourth quarters in each
of the games.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Two fourth quarter touchdowns when they were down ten with.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Seven minutes left against the San Francisco forty nine ers
to rally them from an eleven from a ten point deficit.
Two touchdowns in the fourth quarter against the Philadelphia Eagles
last year to rally them from what had been a
ten point down against the defense that was arguably the
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best in the league last year. As they led, they
were historic in their sacks, and that San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Defense was a very good defense.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I think both of them were number two in total
defense if I'm not mistaken those years. So let's not
act like Patrick Mahons has been chopped delivered.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
One really bad game was Tampa Bay win.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
His offense, and no excuses, but his offensive line was
banged up and the Buccaneers were all over it. They
got stomped thirty one to nine I think was a score.
So no, no excuse for that. But he was great
last year. He only threw for one hundred and eighty
something yards, but he had three touchdowns. Yeah, because he
had three touchdowns no picks in a win, like he
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was really good. And then, like I said, the two
touchdowns in the fourth quarter to come back and win.
And then he started off poorly against the Niners, two
interceptions in the first three quarters, but when it was
gut crunching time, he came through with the two touchdowns
and the late rally, and so no, I mean right,
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he's just a better quarterback than Eli. Many numbers don't
bear without fine.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Is a better quarterback in the Super Bowl than Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
It ain't even close.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You're right, it's not even Mahomes is way better.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's number se that's one number.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Say ride that brock Party had a better season than
Joe Montan or Steve Young ever had.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Who's better? Who's met you about the Super Bowl? Talk
about numbers? Facts and Felix watch the game? Who's better?
Put out twenty five moments?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Twenty five quarterback moments and super Bowls and Patrick Mahomes
that Chris just said.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Mean nothing to me. Don't even wait.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
He not even in the top ten, not even in
the top fifteen. Mowy, he not even Moti twenty five.
Hold well, I can give you the top twenty five,
he says. You want to give a publication so much credit?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
No, No, CBS Sports put out their top twenty quarterbacks
in the Super Bowl. And guess who was rated ahead
of Eli Manny Patrick Mahons plone.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It can't be body Bus. It can't be because he
beat the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
He was actually raided ahead, including the AC and old Patriots.
He was the only one to slay him, and he
was the one who delivered big signature throws. I'm still
waiting for Patrick Mahomes to throw a signature throw in
the Super Bowl. He doesn't have one. He has a
four yard touchdown pass.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I'm talking Eli threw a past to demanding him that
I still can't imagine was thrown or caught. It was
the most unbelievable throw I've ever seen. And I've been covering.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
This league since nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
For all you young journalists report wanna be journalist reporters
out there, this is an example of someone Rob doesn't
even believe what he's saying. What do you I know
you you don't know thirty years you don't know?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
What do you not believe this?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
This is a This is the epitome when you look
up hot take in the dictionary.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
This is what it would be.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Rob would be a picture of Rob Parker and this
date underneath his name. Because this is only being said
because he knows it's ridiculous, knows nobody believes it.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, there's a little bit of evidence for him to
grab a hole of a little bit about.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Because he thinks, oh, this is gonna nobody else has
said this.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
This is gonna really move the needle.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'm gonna get a bunch of views on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
People are gonna say my name, That's what this is
all about. I can look at you, Rod. You do
not believe. I don't believe in you say something conviction.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You might as well be on You might as well
be at the Gotham Comedy Club in Manhattan because you
don't believe a word of what you just said. And
young reporters wanna bees just because you yell doesn't make
it right.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
And you know, and I'm gonna ask Rob g because
he knows nobody has defended Eli Manning more than me.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Rod would sit exact Hall of Fame when Rob Woodson said.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
That he wouldn't even wear his jacket or whatever if
Eli got in. And remember I pushed back on Rod
about about Eli. Because Chris ain't no way got in
the Hall of Fame what he's been able to do.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I still make it there is a way if he
had done that in Minnesota, I don't think he's in
the super in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Jim the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
If the mediocre regular season quarterback is not just super
Bowls maybe. Like I said, I'm not gonna have a
problem with Eli makes it. But Rob, you know, everything
in New York is magnified. I'm not sure he's this
Hall of Famer if he does it in Indianapolis or somewhere else.
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Who are you rather in the Super Bowl? Be a quarterback?
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Patrick Mahomes or don't laugh, Eli me your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
That's Jade.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
The callers don't laugh. Don't laugh. Come on, Chris, let
them think for themselves. Peter and Honolulu, you're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
What's up? Peter?
Speaker 7 (18:15):
What's up? Guys? How are you called in? As soon
as you started the segment, and then while while you
were talking about it, I looked at the article. Okay,
one how Phil Simms isn't the top performance ever, I
don't know. He was twenty two or twenty five, and
they were three drops, you know what I mean against
Tobaccos on that. I don't know how that's not listed
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number one. How that's only the fifth?
Speaker 10 (18:40):
Was it listed?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (18:42):
It listed it.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
It was the fifth one. But he had three drops
in that game, and he was twenty two or twenty five.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
All right, he was almost perfect, I got you all right?
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Now, Well, these were hosts for a Super Bowl, right this? Ye,
this is gonna be his fourth. I can't think of
a single play that stands out that he made in
a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You can't because there isn't one. It's just says there
isn't one. It's just a bunch of good.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Players there twice and he's got two plays that are
going to be shown highlight film for the history.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
As you this, let me ask for the history of
the NFL. Let me ask you this, and you might
be ab to come up with me. Can you remember
any play by Jerry Rice in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 7 (19:36):
There's a couple of catches, but nothing really stands out.
The Swan and Starwarcks.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You remember Swan, right, so who would you. Lynn Swan was.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
My favorite player ever, Like as a kid, he was
my favorite player. I would not take Lynn Swan over
Jerry Rice in the Super Bowl. And so I have
some of the best check catches ever.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That's just my point. I mean Star Wars two. Yeah,
but that b Ratshaw.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Brashaw was much better in the Super Bowls than he
was in the regular season.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
But get him over and Bradshaw was fairly top ten
on this list in that game.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
All right, Hey, Peter, thanks for the call, appreciated. Thank
Perry and Louisville. You're on they couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
What's up, Perry?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
What's going on? Fellas? Love to show respectly, thank you.
I'm gonna keep it real short and simple and hang up, Rob.
You're talking real good and crazy right now, man, c
you know we knows right it's Pat Mahomes the collar
before you as well. You know people are y'all are
overthinking that too much. Man.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Now, that side just showed you. They gave you twenty
five moments of the order back and Patrick hen he
ain't even twenty six.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
He was so bad.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
He's not even twenty six like moments, not the whole
game moments.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
God, bless y'all have a great evening.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, it is all right. Let me give me squeeze
one more in. We got Dmitri in Scottsville. You're on
the eye a couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up?
Speaker 7 (21:01):
Tomitrie, Hey, Rob, mister Parker, I know.
Speaker 11 (21:05):
Let me let me tell you something, my friend.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Listen, it's Black History Month and I don't want to
go in on you.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
What.
Speaker 11 (21:10):
I wait for March first, and I'm gonna call you
back and then I'm gonna get on you. But here's
what the deal is.
Speaker 12 (21:16):
If you take a look at.
Speaker 11 (21:17):
That Super Bowl against Tampa Bay, that was his worst
Pat Patman, Patrick Mahomes worst game, Okay, and this dude
played that game of one leg with a beat up
offensive line.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Nobody, nobody, nobody cares. Because there are moments you know.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
No, no, let me stay, let me say this, because
nobody talks about when Aaron Rodgers and the and the
and the Packers lose and give up forty five points
on defense.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Nobody said, well, you don't have a DVA. What do
you want him to do? No, that's that's that's what he.
Speaker 11 (21:55):
Let me finish my thought here, what my thought was
on this? He had three drops that should have been touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Yes, should have, would have, could off, should have, would have,
could up. We don't want to play that game. We
can sit here all day and you know what, Zay
Flowers shouldn't have fumbled that ball to the for the Ravens.
They would have won that game and they wouldn't even
be here. We could play that game all day. Okay,
the Lions should have kicked the field goals and they
would be in the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You want to play that game.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
It's a lazy game and it ain't gonna solve anything.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
It is The IY Couple Live from thee tire Rack
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He's a Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst. He is a
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renaissance man.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I also love Greg because he's he's not about his feelings.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
He's more about facts.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
So when you lay the facts out, Greg always comes
through with the honest answers.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
He's not emotional, he's not a fanboy. He's just talking
about leading the witness.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I'm just saying, Wow, Okay, Greg, Jenny's welcome.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Let's let's get into this.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Greg.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Greg number saying Rod Parker just made a statement where
he's saying in super Bowls, not play remember and Super
super Bowls, he would rather have Eli Manning than Patrick Mahomes.
I said, he's out of his mind. Hold on, Greg,
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before you go there, before you he knows the games.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
One. You don't have to, Greg. You don't want nonsense
in his mind. No, no, no, Greg. Let the man
think for himself. I know. But the reason we bring
too much football to agree with your madness.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Okay, Greg, Greg, the only reason we're bringing this up
is Sports Illustrated put out a list of twenty five
greatest performances by no, not performances, moments moment in the
Super Bowl, two different moment moments twenty five and Patrick
Mahomes had a moment.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Patrick Lebron James didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Make not one moment out of those twenty five because
he hasn't had a signature moment in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Okay, Greg, that's it.
Speaker 10 (24:28):
Yeah, I'm with you looking at that list, said Eli
Manning should be on the list.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
However, Rock thank you, Greg, you didn't say anything yet, Chris,
I know what hebout.
Speaker 10 (24:39):
I'm not taking Eli manning if I gotta go and
win a Super Bowl in a Super Bowl over Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Patrick Mahomes has five touchdowns, four picks, a quarterback rating
of seventy nine. Eli beat the eighteen and old Patriots
beat Tom Brady. Chris is go by himself.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
He has two signature throws. Greg, you could appreciate Eli.
That throw to Manningham that might be one of the
greatest throws and catches I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
In pro football history. He also made.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
An umblybelievable play to keep that play alive, escape the sack,
throw the ball of David Tyree. And not only that
that wasn't if you call that lucky, he still does
the touchdown to Plaxico to win that game.
Speaker 10 (25:31):
Absolutely agree with all of what you're saying. But you're
crazy if you say that game thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
That's what I'm talking about. Ain't it's nothing this he
lied nobody. He lies great.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I'm not taking Robert Rory over Steph because he might
have more moments and a big and a big moment
for a big shot that I need.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I'm taking Robert Rory over Steph a hundred times out
of one hundred times.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Greg. You know, Steph has never made a big shy.
This is why Rob is a broadcaster, not a GM.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Greg.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
All right, so break this down for us, Greg, this game.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Look, as you know, I'm looking, I'm gonna make my
pick on Friday.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I'm looking at these two teams. I gotta be honest,
there is a lot of reason.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Like Kansas City, I think obviously the Niners had the
best regular season, but in the playoffs the Chiefs have
been much better.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Do you feel how you feeling about this matchup?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (26:33):
Look, both teams, you could argue, have a great opportunity
in front of them, and as I mentioned on the
show today, like both teams truly believe that this is
their moment, and you can argue either side. When you
look at Patrick Mahomes and what they've been able to do.
You know, I doubted that they could even get here.
I truly doubted that they could get here, just because
(26:56):
of what we had seen the throughout the course of
the season.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Quarterback ever, you doubted him?
Speaker 10 (27:05):
Yeah, it wasn't just that I doubted him, because it's
not just him that has to play. I doubted the
fact that those others around him could couldn't lessen the
margin the margin for error in the postseason based on
what we had seen in the regular season, and they
(27:26):
stepped up to the test and they knocked out the
party thus far. And when you look at the other side,
what brock Berdy has been able to do? I mean,
for me, I look, I've said he was a good quarterback.
I believe he's always been a good quarterback. I just
didn't believe that he was elite and that he had
the game breaking skills to where if the ball is
(27:49):
in his hand and you need him to make a play,
however that play needs to be made, he could make it.
And he showed that against Detroit. I don't care who
the opponent is. We can talk the opponent, but he
made those plays when they needed to be made.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
With this team down Greg the thing I think when
I look at the San Francisco forty nine ers is
their comeback ability, Like they should have lost both playoff.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Games, yep.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
And what does that do for a team knowing that
you know you might get.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Off to a bad start, something bad could happen.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah, I mean, they're down twenty four to seven at
home against the Lions.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
People are the Lions fans are in the.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Stands of booking tickets and flights to the Super Bowl
during the game, you know, thinking that they're going and
they wind up coming back and winning those games.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
What does that do for confidence of a team that already.
Speaker 10 (28:48):
Was good, Well, it really gives you this belief that
you are always in the game, there's always a chance,
and no one wants to get down seventeen in a
conference championship or beach railing by double digits in any game. However,
when you've shown the ability to overcome bad play by
(29:09):
not just an individual, but individuals on both sides of
the football as a team collectively, and everybody turns on
the switch and everybody elevates their level of play, and
the offense does what they need to do, and then
the defense finally stops all the opposing offenses from getting
in the end zone or adding points on the scoreboard.
(29:31):
Like that gives you the utmost confidence in any situation.
And there are a lot of guys on this current
forty nine ers roster that experience the other side of
that in this very game, like being up and then
watching a team fight back and then not be able
to counter with with scores. So they've been on both sides.
(29:52):
Some of these guys have been on both sides of it,
and it feels good going into it knowing we can
play with the league and play without the league and
still find a way to win.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You mentioned Purty earlier with the comebacks, and obviously people
have questioned him on that. But how confident are you
in him? You know, he had a couple of bad,
really bad games, but obviously was he played well for
most of the season. But how confident are you that
in this big moment he's not gonna throw the game away?
(30:25):
I mean, he may not have the greatest game, but
are you concerned that he might have one of those
stinkers like he did against Baltimore or maybe Cleveland and
doesn't even give his team a chance.
Speaker 10 (30:39):
Look as a viewer, as a fan, that's always a concern.
When you are playing in the game like this, you
don't even let those thoughts into your mind. And so
being on both sides of it, now, like I understand
rock Ferdy's approach of self talk and understanding that all
he has to do is be what he's been, and
(31:01):
they will have a chance when the game is on
the line. What can't happen is the things that we've
seen him do, which we see any anyone do when
they're having a bad game, which is not be who
they've been or who you expect them to be, or
who that team or that unit needs them to be
in those moments. What Rock Party has shown us is
(31:24):
the ability to literally like as if it didn't happen,
turn a switch, turn the page, and then start fresh
and start with a vengeance like for a young quarterback
to be able to do. I got to admit I've
been very impressed. It's really in this in that championship
game against the Lions about.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
That if mister irrelevant beats the goat Patrick Mahomes in
the Super Bowl, what will that say to you? And
will Patrick Mahomes fall out of that Got conversation if
he loses to Brock Party.
Speaker 10 (31:59):
So I don't think he'll fall out of the Gold conversation.
And there's no way that Patrick Maholmes while he's playing,
can fall out of the Gold conversation, Brad, because because
at because at some point, at some point, based on
the trajectory or what we will see out of brock
(32:21):
Party moving forward. We'll see if he's mister Irrelevant, he'll
fall off the face. But if he is, we can't
keep saying if if, if he ends up winning this game,
brock Party being he and their careers go on, and
we know what the trajectory that Patrick Mahome is on
and brock Party has a decent to a above average career,
(32:42):
You're not We're not going to be saying he lost
to mister irrelevant, but we don't.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Look at you.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
No matter what, do you? Warner worse than that, Chris.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Is a Hall of Famer or a guy that was
never driven.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Warner one an m v P is rookie year to
fifty touchdowns. He he wasn't that party. He wasn't Greg, Greg.
Nobody ever questioned Kirk Warner at all.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
He was.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
They didn't question him Rob.
Speaker 10 (33:22):
He had to have been questioned when he wasn't drafted.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Thank you, Chris, unbelievable. All right, we gotta run, Greg,
Thank you man, great stuff. Have a good night. Greg.
I still love you. I want you to love you, man.
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He's a Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst. Our man Randy Mueller. Randy,
how are Andy?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (34:10):
We doing happy super Bowl week?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yes? And this is a most respect for you. I mean, there, there,
there are.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
You know, media night for the Super Bowl is known
for crazy questions.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Oh here we go.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
But I'm gonna let Rob Parker ask you, by far,
the craziest question you have ever heard. It's not crazy,
so so Randy, and don't be swayed by I'm setting
it up Randy. Sports Illustrated came out with a list
of the twenty five Ratus cornerback Super Bowl moments. Moment,
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no game, no no performances, Chris, It's performances and it's performances.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
And there were twenty five slots. Patrick Mahomes was not
on one of them. Was not on one single of
those quarterback performances. And my thing that Chris is very
simply if you're talking about Super Bowl.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
Not.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
You know, full body of work and lifetime achievement. I'm
talking about performance in the Super Bowl. Randy, Okay, you
got me. Yeah, I would take Eli Manning over Patrick
Mahomes one hundred out of one hundred times.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
And Eli Manning has.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Two signature throws in the Super Bowl, some of the
greatest throws and catches I've seen.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
He also beat the eighteen and oh Patriots.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
He'd beat Tom Brady Christenson is to go twice and
Patrick Mahomes is one of his numbers not that impressive
five touchdowns, four picks and a passive quarterback rating of
seventy nine.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Eli's got three touchdowns two games. Like he's been lighting
it up world that exists in which I'm taking Eli.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Over in the Super Bowl, I'm taking Eli. Even taking Eli.
Speaker 12 (36:09):
Chris. It sounds like I'm the referee here, Like I
don't like I will say this. Eli was best at
the biggest moments and yes those were two you know
giants stays in the sun. Would I take him over
Pat Mahomes if you're talking about playing a game or.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Just in Super Bowl and the Super Bowl, I.
Speaker 12 (36:35):
Guess, I mean, I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
That's Robbie's trying to be nice.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
No, Ready, that.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Throw him Manningham up the sideline. Is that not one
of the greatest throws and catches we've seen?
Speaker 12 (36:50):
Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
It was good.
Speaker 12 (36:51):
He's had some big moments. I gotta give you that that. Yeah,
he's Chris, He's not completely nuts.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Okay, I mean yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (37:02):
Ready.
Speaker 12 (37:03):
I don't know if I would compare the two in
any way obviously that the point you're making is that
Eli was was taking advantage of some of the best
plays that we've ever seen in the Super Bowl. I
don't disagree with that, but I don't know the questions.
I think you were trying to lead the witness and
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yeah it was well.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
The quarter that's all good. He's not even trying to
just give Eli props. He's really trying to rip Patrick. No,
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I aren't you surprised that s I could make a
list of twenty five quarterback performances and Patrick Mahome not
being any for God's won two Super Bowl Seriously.
Speaker 12 (37:48):
I'm surprised at that because if he wins Sunday, he
will have done something no player in the history of
the league has ever done, so you would think there
would just be a slight lean into that possibility happening.
But yeah, I agree with you. He's he may be
the greatest of all time. He's gonna pass the first
seven years of what anybody's done, so right, I would
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surely try to consider him, that's for sure, Randy.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I'm, for one am surprised that San Francisco is the favorite,
Like I think, I'm not saying they don't have a chance.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I actually think they do have a chance.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I might even pick them, but I think objectively, especially
if we're looking at the last month of football, you
would think and then they got Mahomes versus I'm a
big fan of brock Purty. But still, he's in his
first Super Bowl. He's the third youngest quarterback everything, in
his first year as a starter, you know, third youngest in.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
The Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
So do you see, like why they would favor San
Francisco And what's the case for San Francisco winning this,
you know, winning this game.
Speaker 12 (38:54):
Here's my idea of what you're saying. I totally agree,
hundred percent, and I've said from day one, the wrong
team's favorite.
Speaker 10 (39:00):
But obviously we.
Speaker 12 (39:01):
Know how the oddsmakers are right more than they're wrong.
I think it is about matchups, and I'm with you, Chris.
I think the matchups favor the Chiefs. These guys played
a couple of years ago and Pat Mahomes went off
for four hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I don't know where seeing that Patrick Mahomes issue. I'll
tell you that.
Speaker 12 (39:18):
Well, we've seen him pretty sharp though the last two weeks,
and I've seen a.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Different they and the second half against the Ravens they
got nothing.
Speaker 12 (39:26):
He was as good as I've ever seen him in
the first half. So it's both into the spectrum for sure.
I just don't know the Chiefs can slow up Pat Mahomes.
I just think it is going to be about more
people than the quarterback, that's for sure, on both sides.
And I think the key to the game is a
running game that's going to take the pressure off of
either one of them. But I like the matchups for
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Kansas City. I just see Spagnola against Purdy. I like Spagnola.
I like what he can do from different variety of coverages.
I like Mahomes, I like Pacheco. I like the way
the Chiefs are since the line has played the last
couple of weeks, and this is not the rated defense
that they're facing. Trust me, I think the forty nine
Ers secondary is shaky at best. So I'm with Chris,
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I think the wrong team's favorite, and I'll probably be
totally wrong, but I would check definitely lean toward Mahomes
and the Points for sure.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
I think you guys are are looking like the forty
nine ers with a team that all year was supposed
to be in the Super Bowl, not the Chiefs, and
I get all you're saying of late, but sometimes Randy,
the pressure of trying to fulfill that is the tough part.
They struggled in two games in the playoffs, but they
came back and won two big playoff games, which.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Says a lot about the character of that team.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
They could have folded to the Lions or just said like,
this is not our day and it's not gonna happen,
and instead they could now breathe and just play this
game without the pressure of trying to get there. Do
you buy that that sometimes, like with the Ravens, just
trying to get to the Super Bowl can be a
you know, beat, a hard game to win.
Speaker 12 (41:03):
I just think their margin Freyr was greater in some
of these other games, and we've all kind of beat
up on Dan Campbell. I don't think that Andy Reid
is going to act in that irrational fashion when it
comes to making decisions. I think they were handed the
Detroit game more than they actually went and won it.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
But having scored twenty seven straight points right in the second.
Speaker 12 (41:23):
Half, and Purdy was big, Purty was big beyond any
quarterback that Shanahan's had in some moments because he broke
that string and nobody else could do it. So I
think it's an interesting matchup. I don't think the margin
Freyr is for San Francisco to play down and come
back at the end. I think Kansas City will have
the upper hand and I think it's going to be
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that way throughout.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
What Randy, what do you think about Like Kyle Shanahan,
we know the big games.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
We can think of three of them.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
The Rams in the NFC Title Game, they're up ten
heading into the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Obviously, the Super Bowl against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Biggest, the biggest jump and ten you know midway through
the fourth quarter. And then when he was in Atlanta
as the offensive coordinator up twenty eight to three, against
Tom Brady and the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
How much of this do you put on Shanahan.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
We know everybody gives him credit deservedly so for being
a great play caller, and you know offensively he's very smart,
but doesn't he have to wear those failures?
Speaker 3 (42:31):
And how much of that do you put on him?
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Well?
Speaker 12 (42:36):
I put a lot on him. Obviously, their downfield passing
game is not up to speed, and it was evidenced
by all the numbers that were against them when they
were behind by seven or more points, and that was
an over string and that's right. Yeah, Purty has taken
him above that. They broke that string now, but the
downfield passing game that has to be questioned, especially when
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you're behind, when the play action passed doesn't matter. You
can't play action pass when you're behind by two scores.
It doesn't slow anybody up. So that's the difference. It
hasn't been an offense that's been a good come from
behind offense. Now Purdy can maybe take them a little
further with his big playability when it really counts, but
I don't know. I think the offense itself is predicated
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on how good McCaffrey can be and how much they
can kind not in a traditional running game way, but
they need to control the ball to keep you know,
the Chiefs off the field and Mahomes off the field.
We'll see if they can do that. But I'm with you,
I'm I'm a little shaky on the system, especially when
they get behind.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
What if the Chiefs and Mahomes losers to mister irrelevant
and the forty nine is what would you make of
that as far as like you liked?
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Was that a super Bowl that got away?
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Or would would that be chalked up as maybe just
brock perty Is is better than maybe people want to
believe if he's able to be Patrick Mahomes and slay
the dragon, because it could change the way Patrick Mahomes
has looked at it. If he's two and two instead
of three and one at the start of his career.
Speaker 12 (44:12):
Well, I don't think it'd be the biggest upset in
the world if the favorite wins.
Speaker 7 (44:15):
So I get well, but.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
We got to also remember when when we talk about favors,
I tell Chris Vegas is just trying to get people
a bet money on both sides.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
They're not predicted who's going to win.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
It's not based on who's going to win if they
pick Kansas City, you know what I mean, and people will.
They're trying to get you to bet both sides so
that they can win. That's the only reason why the
forty nine is a favorite. I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
That's how it is. You the only ones.
Speaker 12 (44:42):
They're two good teams. They're two good teams, win or lose.
Pat Mahomes is going to be back. I like the
way the Chiefs have constructed their team because I think
it's really sustainable. They're in a much better position capwhite
the long haul than the forty nine ers are. So
I just like their makeup going forward, so I don't
look at it be as much as a missed opportunity
or it's just another opportunity and then they'll be back.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
All right. That's our man, Randy Mueller.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Randy, thank you, Randy.
Speaker 12 (45:13):
All Right, guys, say all right.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
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