February 15, 2024 • 41 mins
Chris and Rob discuss whether we could see less people at championship parades in the wake of the tragic shooting at the Kansas City Chiefs’ Super Bowl parade yesterday, explain why they would have liked to see LeBron James traded to the Golden State Warriors at the trade deadline and tell us if Patrick Mahomes needs to win 7 Super Bowls in order to surpass Tom Brady as the GOAT.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
All right, Rob, Yeah, as you mentioned, and I'm sure
just about everybody knows now that yesterday at the Kansas
City Chiefs Parade to celebrate their second straight Super Bowl
winning their third overall with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid,
there was a shooting. And Rob g fill me in
(00:55):
on the latest updates if I miss anything. But it
apparently there were about a million people there, so it
was packed.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Was it that many? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It was a city, really Yeah, Greater Kansas City, I
believe is about two million, and it was about a million,
that's what they're saying. I know for the royals. I
think it was the Royal parade for the Royals, it
was about eight hundred thousand, and so this one they're
saying it was about a million, and it was jam packed.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
We went last year.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I was there for first things first the TV show
I co host on FS one, and we went last year.
Of course, my co host, Nick Right is from Kansas City,
so we went.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Back for that and it was great day.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Early on, you know, the crowd was tremendous, red everywhere,
of course, and you know, they loved the show and me,
and even though I didn't pick them, they were crowd
was cool.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
A little joking here and there about brew.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Was wrong, Brew was wrong and all that, but it
was going well. And the team came up and spoke.
Chris Jones vowed that he willing to be back there
next year and the year after and all that. Travis
Kelsey was inebriated, but he spoke, and.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Patrick Mahones of course spoke, and a few others.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So we robed. We started taping the show. We pre
taped a little bit of it, and we had taped
probably about forty five minutes. We had just interviewed McCole Hardman,
who made the game winning catch in the Super Bowl,
and then they started, you know, our security that was
(02:43):
there with us started kind of hey, hey, hey, hey,
we gotta get get get your stuff, get your stuff.
We gotta go, we gotta go. And I'm like, you know,
I didn't know exactly what it was. And then quickly
they told us there's an active shooter. And the chiefs
had left this stage Rob a few minutes earlier, so
some of the crowd was starting to leave, but this
(03:05):
still was a good number of people there. And so
our security, you know, starts taking us myself and Kevin
Wil's Nick right.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Nick was concerned about his wife.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
His wife happened to be around, so we got her
and she had her sister and a friend with her.
So and then the rest of our staff with first
things first, and they started leading us out through the crowd.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
And as we're going through the crowd, and the crowd.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
By this point, everybody's leaving and walk I would say
walking fast. I wouldn't say most people were not running,
but walking fast. And I heard out on four or
five gunshots ROB as we were walking away, And that
gave you the impression you didn't know how close they were.
(03:53):
You had heard I had heard a rumbling that it
was inside, but then it got outside and.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
You just didn't know exactly what was going on.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And our hotel was five to ten minutes away, so
we went all the way back to the hotel and
then everybody at that point is just in the lobby.
I went up to my room, and everybody's watching the
news and seeing what's going on. And apparently it was
a beef, a squabble, a disagreement between two young people.
(04:24):
Robbed teenagers and they had guns on them and they
started shooting, and there's.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
A lot of shooting.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Twenty four people. Yeah, a lot of people getting got hit.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Well, I don't think every one of them got hit
with a bullet, most of them, but some people got trampled, thankfully,
not to death, but trampled or maybe fell, and a
couple of people stepped on them as people were leaving,
you know, and rushing their way out of there.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
But robbed more than half the people.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
About half of the people that did get shot were
children below sixteen, which is it's a bad situation all
the way around, but obviously when you hear children involved
like that, it's just it makes it even worse.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
And so, yeah, that was it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Rob And you know, I'm fine mentally and emotionally in
prayer for those that, you know, some of these kids
saw some of this stuff up close, so you just
pray for their emotional and mental well being going forward.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Obviously the family of the deceased.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
One woman who was a local DJ rob on the show,
she got killed, and then it was just you know,
people injured and stuff.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
So I've been in.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
That situation, Chris. You remember down a Nationals Park in DC.
You remember there was a shooting across the street and
I was in the building.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Oh yeah, remember that, We're in the closet, right.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Remember that was in the boom closet or something.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You know people, right, And that's why I wanted to
ask you, did you hear shots and at any point,
you know, like did you fear for your life or
safety or you know what I mean, because you don't
know where it's coming from. I remember that time for me,
people started running towards me, Chris, as I'm trying to
(06:17):
exit the stadium. So when people run towards me, I'm
believing that there's a shooter behind them, right, and he's.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Coming our way.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Oh yeah, So that was a scared.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
That was the probably the most scared I've ever been
in a public venue, you know what I mean, Where
I thought something bad was gonna happen. Where were you
on that or was it not close enough? But you
said you heard shots though, right, yeah, we were. I
get I had heard.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I think one of the security guards is somebody with us.
As we were leaving and rushing being rushed out, one
of our somebody said the shooting. There were two shooters
and one started. It started inside, so we were good.
I don't know, oh seventy five yards from maybe one
(07:07):
hundred yards I don't.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Know from the Union station, and.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So I thought, Okay, it's inside. But then they said
it got outside. It started inside but came outside. But
we were still enough a further distance away. We weren't
like a long way away, but enough where I felt like, okay,
I'm safe. But then when you heard the shots and
(07:34):
it sounded like firecrackers.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, so you heard the shots, and it did go
through my mind, Okay, it's maybe are they out here
outside closer than we think?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Can some of these bullets get through the crawd You know,
you just didn't know.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
It did cause a little bit of doubt to as
to where how close the shooters may have been to you.
But I didn't. I wouldn't say I was fearful because
if I felt like we were farther far enough away
and moving further away, seeing like we were okay. Yeah,
(08:12):
And I didn't see anybody because again we're surrounded by
people and everybody starting to move out. I didn't see
anybody like get hit or anybody in distress or anything
like that.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And I think it's a little different when people are
running towards you, you know what I mean, because then
you know.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Oh, yeah, you know, you're wondering, like you said, is
the danger following them?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Following them? Why are they running this way? I'm trying
to go that way? And that's why I got scared
when I was in d C.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
No, I did that.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, and you were in you were in the building,
in the stadium.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
You're there's only so many places you can.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Go, Like we were literally leaving the scene and you know,
heading away from it. But Rob, this is becoming commonplace
obviously in our country. And you remember last year when
the Denver Nuggets won their championship. Now there were two shootings.
(09:10):
Some of these are directly related to the situation, They've
said after as they don't think that was related to
the parade, but some of these are on the periphery
and happening the night of a championship or when they
have the parade.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
But the Texas Rangers rob when they won the World Series, there.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Was shootings, the Milwaukee Bucks remember when they won the
championship a few years ago, shootings, the Dodgers in twenty twenty, shootings.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
And so Cleveland, even the Calves when they won in twenty.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Six they have it two Yeah, yeah, and I think
they may have said it was it might they don't
not shuret how related it was, but yeah, they have shootings.
And Toronto even had in twenty nineteen. That's obviously not America,
but still and so yeah, it's just I mean, rob
like this stuff that's to stop because you're you don't
(10:03):
want like the young generation. And ironically, I was talking
before we went to Kansas City with somebody about over
the weekend we were having dinner, my wife and I
with another couple and their children were younger than ours,
and they were talking about how their children in school,
(10:24):
you know, how we always used to have tornado drills. Right,
so what you run, you get by the wall, you
get down, you know, like in school, they teach you
have a tornado, they have shooting drills, so in case
there's a mass shooter, this is what you do.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And that's sad that this generation of young people rob.
I mean, that's that's gotta steal some of your innocence.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Because you know what Chris I was gonna say. And
you've covered parades too.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I covered the Mets parade in eighty six. I don't
remember any shoot, you know what I mean, like real
n could be wrong, but I covered it. I don't
remember any I.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Covered the Yankees ninety nine, I covered.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
You remember I was six, right, and you know.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
That's that's all the way down Broadway, Chris and all
those people in New York City and what I don't
And then we went.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
To a park. You go to a park and they start.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And then that's when they speak. But do you remember
shooting in those That's what I mean. But twenty years later,
it seems like there's always something now more so than
back then. And maybe I don't want to misspeak, but
I don't. I covered those.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Right right now, and I don't, but I don't remember anything.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
But I don't remember shootings.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I don't, right And your first thought, whether it should
be or not, is is there some type of terrorism,
whether domestic or out of the country, you know, somebody.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Out of the country.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
But it turns out it sounds like Robie was two
teenagers when all the.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Cops around know for a parade. That's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
The thing is is like, and I wonder going forward,
like we're talking about going forward with these things, will
some places start doing it inside and a big arena
because then you now you won't get as many people obviously,
but you can control engaged, right, nobody could come in
with a weapon and stuff.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Like they had.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Hundreds of cops. I don't know exactly how many it was,
but you just couldn't. I mean, there were again a
million people and it's way you know, like people for
as far as you can see, and you can't.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
You just can't control who might have a weapon or not.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And for the most part, man, everybody was so great,
and you know, rob it was I.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Guess a celebration.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Everybody was just there to celebrate the chiefs and they're
happy and all that.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
It's supposed to be the happiest moment as a sports fan.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Right, Yeah, that's what you don't know. They have a
win in your lifetime. They won back to back. You know,
you don't know. So most people.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
It's you for a Chris, and people probably don't go
to the games.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
No, they don't get to go, right, So this is
the moment.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 3 (13:48):
All right, Rob, Speaking of the NBA, it's like the
big story.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
That was a non story. But was it Tuesday or Wednesday?
It was?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It came out that the Golden State Warriors had inquired
about Lebron James and his availability because they wanted to
team him with Steph Curry in Golden State. The Lakers said,
they don't want to trade Lebron, but why don't you
call and check with his agent? And Rich Paul is agent,
(14:26):
obviously getting his info from Lebron or to go ahead
from Lebron, said they don't want to be traded to
Golden State.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
What do your what was your thoughts on this? This
was this was interesting?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Lakers blew it. I would have made the move. Yeah,
I would have made the move.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I would have Lebron doesn't Lebron doesn't doesn't have a
no trade. I mean, I'm not saying that they they
could have said for the betterment of the organization moving forward.
The Lakers could have killed two birds with one stone.
A they don't have a tea. I don't believe they
have a team that's going to be able to knock
(15:06):
off the Clippers or Denver one of these other teas.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I really don't think that they're going to do that
or get to the Western Conference Finals like they did
a year ago. But they could have made the move
to try to change things going forward. And also, and
I say this with all due respect, also take themselves
out of the BROWNI conversation, where now you might have
(15:31):
to draft you know a kid who I'm happy he's
back out on the court, Chris, but he's averaging five
or six points for a bad USC team, right, and
you might have to draft him to satisfy Lebron. So
you put your organization again in a spot that probably
isn't the best going forward, you know. And it's one thing,
(15:56):
if I get it, if you didn't pick up the
phone because you weren't trying to shop Lebron. People are
gonna go to Laker game. Oh you're selling tickets steps.
I hate to break it to you. Before Lebron got there, Chris,
they were selling tickets in l A. People love the Lakers.
They're going to go. They don't have to have anybody
to sell tickets to that place. Uh. Lebron's uh run
(16:19):
with the Lakers, I would call checkered spotty, you know,
with the injuries, with some years not making no I
said that, I said spotty. I didn't say a total
bus but but they did get the Bubble championship. But
there's been other you know, bumps in the road. You
mean the championship. I just said it was in the bubble.
I'm giving it historical. I'm giving it historical.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Uh, it's not a less that you said it like
it's a less job.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
But but I'm just saying from a historical standpoint. So
somebody might be listening to this radio show years from now, going, oh, yeah,
that was a bubble when that when there was a
pandemic going on. Oh yeah, I heard I read about that, Chris,
you know, of his championship. Ever, of course, and if
he would have lost, it was tough to play in
that bubble, and that wouldn't have been yet that would
(17:06):
have been.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
His story too.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But anyway, Chris, if I would have got a deal
that I was comfortable with, I would have made the
move going forward. Because Lebron, for all the numbers he
puts up, doesn't have the same impact of winning. And
I think that's the part that you have to honestly
look at yourself. It's not that he's terrible. It can't
put up any points, didn't play defense at all or
(17:30):
not enough to make it. Uh, you know where you
have a real shot at trying to win something, and
I just don't think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
So I would have made the move.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Well, I address that too, but at first I'm looking
at it from a different perspective. Rob, I would have
loved to have seen this. I would love to see
Lebron James.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And Steph Curry play together.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
There have only been three times that I might unless
I'm missing one, and I'll put that out there. Maybe
I'm overlooking something, but there have only been three times. Rob,
were two players who were in the top ten conversation okay,
top ten players all time conversation played together Magic and
(18:22):
Kareem Kobe and Shaq and Oscar Robertson and Kareem Abdul
Jabbar or Luel Cinder at that time.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I mean, I guess, yeah, Jerry West is not really
in the top ten conversations because he played with Wilt.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
He's not a top ten.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
So this would have been now, wouldn't they have wanted?
They wouldn't have been the favorites. I think they'd have
been a contender, but they wouldn't have been the favorites.
But I think, Rob, it would have just been so
much fun to watch. It would have been such a
draw that I would have loved to have seen it,
(19:05):
and their games comp I know they're older and neither
one of them is as good as they used to be.
STEP's probably closer to his prime than Lebron is, but
their games compliment each other. So, like you know, it's
not like it be a tough adjustment. Lebron loves to pass,
great pass or court vision, and Steph obviously fantastic shooter.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
And so I just from that.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Standpoint, I would have loved to have seen it happen.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Now from your standpoint you address with the Lakers, here's
I get where you're going, because they're not.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I don't think they're gonna win the West this year.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I think they, you know, got a puncher's I wouldn't
even say a puncher's chance to win the West. I
would say a puncher's chance to make a deep playoff run.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
But here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
If you trade Lebron, I mean you're probably talking about
Clay with his salary, and maybe you get Jonathan kaminga
who's nice Cominga's average about twenty points the last two months,
and he's emerging, as you know, it looks like he
could maybe one day, maybe one day be a star.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
So that would have.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Been something but here's the thing, And Rob, you've covered
sports for a long time and you know this can
be a factor, doesn't always have to and you can
ignore it if you're a team, if you want. But
Rich Paul is now arguably the most powerful agent in
the NBA. Arguably he's certainly in the conversation the Knicks
(20:43):
like don't get his players, you know now, I think
they've they've recently smoothed things over where maybe that could change.
But he's got a lot of guys. And I remember
he's got Anthony Davis. So if they traded Lebron again,
hiss Lebron's will how long before Anthony Davis wants out?
(21:05):
And and look, he doesn't have to listen to Rich.
He Rich works for him, so a d could stop it.
But I'm just saying maybe he wouldn't. Maybe you're the
one if you're the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Though, you can't sell your soul for for and and
I hear the Rich Paul thing. You know what I mean,
You're not Charlotte, You're not Charlotte's play.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
All these guys are under Rich Draymond Green.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I'm going and on, but I'm just I'm not saying
they should I'm just saying that's.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Something that's a factor there. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Okay, I hear you, and that's fair, but but you
have to look out for your own organization long term
and going forward. And that's why I brought up the
Broni stuff because that's the next thing on the table,
right and and what's the story.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
We're gonna talk about that right later on anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
But I'm just saying, if I'm the Lakers, that might
have been an opportunity to just get he might leave anyway,
Chris Right, he could walk and he has a player
option for next year. Right, And if they say, just
say that they changed their mind, we're not drafting Brownie,
and well, I'm gonna opt out and I'm gonna go
to Charlotte and then we'll go there with my son.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
And we'll play together. Then you lose him for nothing.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I mean, So the Lakers are in the spot right
where they could he could just walk on them, where
maybe there was a chance of getting something and you
would have had a Clay's salary spot, Chris Right, with
a young player.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I'm just now, look kame in good. Like I said,
he looks like he could one day be a star.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
He might just need space and his own place to
op well.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
And he's playing, he's playing well.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I'm just off.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
It's a little bit for him in Golden State, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
So, I mean, obviously that's the Warriors thinking is we'll
keep him and he'll become a star here, or they'll
use him the trade for somebody, which maybe that was Lebron.
But I hear you because again, I don't think they're
about to win a championship, you know, with Lebron and
a D. But if they let him go, you know,
(23:01):
we saw him last night. Obviously they look good without him.
They beat Utah, that's Utah, but still they played well,
they beat Boston without Lebron and a D.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I mean, I I think they want Lebron to retire
as a Laker. Now, you're right, we don't know what
Lebron's gonna do. I I think I feel like he's
going to stay.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
But Chris, I'm not sure that. Well, I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I don't know if and I I don't know if
it's a certainty that Brianni's coming out. But you can't
he might, I Don'tron, you can't you can't bank on
another year. But the answer should be Bronni, you know
what I mean, But I know it should.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
You don't know what Lebron's held, but but I mean,
it's a lot of things that could stop him from
everybody get it.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
But if I'm Bronnie and I don't know what Bronni's thinking,
But what if Bronni's like dad, I'm not First of all,
I'm enjoying college. Secondly, I'm I'm not ready. I average
five points a game on thirty five percent shooting.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
For it, and he might take my face class next semester.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Let me know.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
If you see him around her, get him on the show.
But nah, I mean, you know what I'm saying. And
I don't know what Briannie. Maybe he is like his dream,
just like Lebron's has been to play with my dad.
So maybe that's If that's the case and that's in
the works, fine, But I also think rob if the
Lakers did draft.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Bronnie, I don't think that's the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I think you got twelve or fifteen guys on the team.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
It could potentially be bad for teammates. You know, Chris,
you know, like people have to earn their way. We
talked about this before and and I get it. They
could be cool with Lebron, but there could be resentment
from some guy.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Could it. Could they could challenge it for Bronnie.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
That's what I'm saying. And I'm gonna give you didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
We talked about this before with urban Meyer when he
brought in uh the quarter Tim Tebow, Tim Tebow, people
in there were like, dude, he don't you know what
I mean, Like like Chris, Tim Tebow is a popular guy,
he is a good guy, all that stuff, but people
like he didn't he didn't deserve this shot. He didn't
(25:27):
earn a chance to be there. I'm just saying sometimes.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Players, but we've talked that, there's no look, there's no doubt.
I mean, we've talked about that. Are guys looking at
Brownie like, man, you only hear because of your dad?
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Now with the Lakers, obviously they have a lot of
respect for Lebron that you know, they can't go when
he's around and stuff like that, so that situation might
be a little different. And you know, if Brownie's not
playing a lot, which I wouldn't expect him to be,
but who knows if Lebron tries to.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Push those But like I said, if they just draft.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Him and he's learning and getting better under the Lakers,
I mean, like I said, the challenge will be for him.
I don't know if it's the worst thing in the
world for the Lakers, but it's an interesting thing you
bring up, because again, if you're not gonna win the championship,
then maybe you start looking to do something else.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
But I get it. You know they're gonna try to
go for it.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Maybe I think at best they can make a deep
playoff run, but that I think is their ceiling this year.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
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Speaker 3 (26:42):
Budding Story in Golden State Clay Thompson, the future Hall
of Famer, and Keith cogg in their dynasty they've had
over the past seven eight years, eight years guest nine years.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
He was benched tonight, oh man, I believe or not.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
He's also still their second leading scorer seventeen points a game.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Talked about that. Remember I said that they should start
to move off of him.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
It's interesting the last this month February, which isn't a
full month yet, it's only about about eight games or so,
seven games, he's only averaged thirteen points Rob on thirty
eight percent shooting.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Now, two games ago he did drop twenty.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Six, right, he had that one big game, but it's
been mostly bad.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I mean he was fine in January, average twenty, but
this month he scored eight, ten, five, twelve, Like he's
been off. And I think the thing is Rob last night,
we know, you know, he he committed the foule. They're
down three to the Clippers. He commitsed the file with
thirty nine seconds left on purpose, just kind of losing
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track of what's going on. Clippers go down, hit the
free throws. Making a five point game is basically over.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
That's not what you want to do, right, No, no, he.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean everybody was like, what are you doing, dude.
The thing about Clay right now, Rob is he's not
It's not only that his game. He's just getting older
and he's had the injuries, and I know he sees
Steph still playing great at thirty five Clay's a year younger,
thirty four, and probably feels like why I should be
(28:26):
able to be my old self too. So I think
it's not only that he's losing his game, but he's
not handling it well at all, mentally and emotionally. Rob
And that's probably why they've gone to the benching as
much as the dropping production, just because he's not handling
it well.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But don't you also think for him there's a degree
there to Chris financially. Remember he wanted a new contract.
He thought that they kind of slighted him. I mean,
there's a lot of stuff going on here, and maybe
it's wearing on him as well, because I I just think.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
You know, he should. I'm sure he's got.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Oh, it's not about whether he has money or not.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I agree with you there, but I think he was
expecting a contract.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I think he was. I just and.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
You you and I know you know as well as anybody.
A lot of times players aren't realistic. It's just right,
he can't step you and I can look at this
and Rob g and Alice whoever, but no, he's looking
at it.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Ain't no way you're paying it, he's.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Saying, and Draymond Green got a new deal. Steph is
making fifty million. You know, like you start to look around.
I help win these championships too. Don't make it like
I wasn't a party. Did dra I got hurt? Did
dray mind?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
One might bother him more than anything, just to say
bother like there's beef between them.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
But Draymond is not what he used to be either.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
He's still better than Clay overall, but he's not what
he used to be. And you know Rob also he
may be looking at it and all the trouble Draymond causes.
So you reward that dude that I've been a good soldier.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I worked myself back because from two major injuries to
get back to play.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
This ain't like I just fell off, just fell off.
I got hurt.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
I got hurt, given by all, I get it.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
But you know what, and this is where you just
gotta I don't want to say I like Clay a
lot now that he's a grown man. He's a man,
so I don't want to, you know, insult him or anything.
But sometimes this is just life. You know how many
people would like to be where you and I are.
I know, every day, right, every day and they're thinking
(30:42):
I could do what they do. Why am I not
making the money there make? Rob G's always saying that
why ain't I making the money they make?
Speaker 5 (30:50):
You know, but sometimes every day you just sometimes.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
You gotta just accept that life isn't a bowl of chocolates.
And you know what I mean. And I get everything
you said was legit, Robbie. He may very well be
feeling that way, and we can actually understand it, but
this is the reality and your life and your career
(31:17):
has been tremendous and so you know, it is what
it is. Not make it easy to deal with, I
get it, but this is where we're at it.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
It's nearing the end for Clay.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
It's just and they would be out of their minds
to give him like an extension.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
No, I can't see that now with even benching him, Chris,
even in the season, that's.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Going to ride for them, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Like that's probably even worse to say, like we don't
even think we could get out of it with Clay playing.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
We rather play all the way they've.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Been playing well lately, So I think I mean they're
not they're they're I don't even think they're as good
as the Lakers, but they don't really have a chance.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
But I think they're just gonna go for it and
see what they can do.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And how about the whole idea Lebron And you think
that maybe got him to that that he would be
that like that he.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Was the guy that they would have made a deal.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
You know what I mean when you say to train,
I gotta I gotta expire in contract?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Was it me? Oh wow? Now they called the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
It would have had to include either him or Wiggins
to make it work financially, right, and probably Clay But yeah, yeah,
that's a good point. That might be getting to him
as well. So we'll keep you posted on that. But Rob,
let's go here, Patrick Mahomes, we got sound.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
He was on CNN yesterday before the parade. Here's what
he said.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
I think it's more than just me trying to be
the best that I can be. I don't want to
have any regrets at the end of my career. And
I know how great of an organization, how great of
a coach, tight end players that I have around me,
and I don't want to let that, let that slide by.
I want to make sure I maximize my opportunities, and
obviously the goal is is always seven. It's always to
try to get as much as you can, and so
all I can do is just try to maximize my
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opportunities every single day, continue to work to be better,
not only for myself but for my team, and we'll
see what happened at the end of my career.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Goal is seven.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Do you think Patrick Mahos needs seven rings to be
viewed as the goat?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I think he has to.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I do think he has to get six and one,
seven and two to at least match him.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I do not believe. And for me, Chris, here's a
problem I have.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It's not how you start, it's how you finished that
has a big effect on how people look at you.
That's what turned Brady's career around and the way people
view him. If Tom Brady would have won those first three, Chris,
and then with the nine years and say he didn't
win again, no, he wouldn't even be in that conversation.
So it's hot. John Elway. John Elway was a loser
(34:01):
in Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Right his team.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And I'm not saying he he was awful or whatever.
I know he didn't play that great and his team
Juwsy got blown out.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
He was gonna be a Hall of Famer. But yeah,
he didn't.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Play, but he but his but his image.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
He plays won for the most part, but his image.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Though change with the back to back to retires.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
What I'm saying, so if Pat and Patrick Mahomes's case,
I think that's going to be a big part on
how people look at him. And here's the other thing, Chris,
there's a couple of things going that could work against him.
And here it is, if he doesn't win once Andy
Reid retires, if he doesn't win once Kelsey retires, like like,
(34:44):
that is where I think people will will be able
to look at his career and say, man, you know what,
Andy Reid retire, he still won, Kelsey left, he still won.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Then you start to look at that if.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
He if he can say it about Tyreek, oh he
did it once. But I'm just saying, but if he
doesn't win, right, but if he doesn't win again in
his career, there's no way. Oh yeah, I agree with that.
I mean, he's got to win more.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
But here here's and I agree with you on the
Andy and and Kelsey points.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Right, if they leave, say I mean.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
A couple of years from now and they do whatever.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Where I disagree with you are at is. I don't
think for him now, I'm not. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
He does have to continue to win to some level,
you know, I mean some super Bowl. He doesn't win
more Super Bowls, but I don't think I think he's
different from Brady and l Way in that. Like you said,
what what made Brady Brady was that he won later
in his career. Well, but that's because Brady wasn't as
(35:52):
good individually early in his career. Like nobody, even after
Brady won three championships, rop nobody.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Was thinking of him.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
I mean, goat well, people thought he was a system QB.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Well, it was on So seven when he got Moss
and started putting up all these numbers, and then from
that point people started even before he was winning, it
was like individual, you know, when he did before he
won his fourth Super Bowl, individually, people thought of him
higher than they did when he was winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
But the only difference thing, I think you're leaving out
and I get it with the first three, but there
was Joe Montana sitting there four and zero and the
numbers and all the records in the Super Bowl. So
you're right there was no conversation, but it had more
to do that might give it in front of them.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I'm saying Brady wasn't even like it's like Terry Bradshaw.
Bradshaw got four rings. Nobody was thinking to him as
the goat. It was like, Brady won these championships. He's
a good quarterback, but go I mean Peyton Mayor. There
are a lot of people that were ahead of him
at that point because he didn't seem like a great
(36:57):
great He was very good, but not a great individual player.
And then we saw with Moss and what he did,
and then they obviously went on to win super Bowls
and lways the same way, and that he didn't win early,
so he had to win late and Brady had to
put up numbers and win late. Mahomes has already put
up the numbers. We know how Grady is individually and
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he's won. So I don't think those are fair comparisons,
because I mean, their career hasn't started anywhere near how
his has as far. But as far as the ring count,
Rob I've always said, because of how he's how great
he's been individually, I mean, he's got two MVPs. Brady
had none at this point. He's got two First Team
(37:43):
All pros. Brady had none at this point. Because of
how great he's been individually, I don't think it'll take
seven rings.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
I've always said five.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
If he continues, you know, to be great individually, Rob
maybe win another MVP within that stretch and all that.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
But Rob and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I gotta see if it plays out and how it
would play out. But I'm gonna say this, if he wins,
if they three peat, which has never been done in
the Super Bowl era, if they three pat and he
has a like you know, it's great and individually great
and all that, that might that might change my view.
(38:29):
I have to see how it would happen. But a
three peat, something that's never been done.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
That that would be a feather in his cap.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
But that wouldn't even that wouldn't seal anything because if
he didn't repeat and they had four, I'll give you that,
but again, he doesn't win again and he plays eight
or nine years.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
But I hear that, I'm I think that I'm just
saying I know I hear you, but I'm saying at
four let's say this time.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
He actually made at four.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I think people are already saying not everybody, but I
think a lot of people are are just like, he's
the goat.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
I mean, he repeated he you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Now, you're right, Maybe maybe maybe if if the next
six years he doesn't win again, maybe people are revisiting
it and even sooner, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
But I still think he has the past. To me,
Joe Montana, Uh, you know, I don't think he's done one.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I'm the only one.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
And you know what, you know, what's crazy is the
way you everybody discounts Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw actually has
better numbers in the Super Bowl than than Patrick Mahony.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
I'm just giving. I'm just talking about it's shocking in
the Super.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Bowl that people don't look at Terry Bradshaw as being
much a part of, you know, what they were able
to do with the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I'm saying, I mean, Bradshaws are respected, but he was
never even four and O.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
People weren't looking at Bradshaw going oh my god.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
You know, but that's because I mean, he wasn't Roger
Starbagg was better than Terry Brashaw. Like Bradshaw wasn't viewed
as like the best quarterback in the league. He only
made three Pro Bowls, so that's that's where Bradshaw you know,
gets hurt from like regular season and again he won
an MVP.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
He was a three time Pro Bowler, so he was
very good.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
But I mean, he wasn't like the best player on
that team by any stretch, you know. And but I
think he's respect But that's what I'm saying, Like it's
not just about super Bowls and super Bowl performance, and
that's what Mahomes has, the super Bowls, but he also
has the the regular season, you know, performances.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
So that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I agree that he if he won next year and
then didn't win again, I think at some point during
that drought, people would start to wonder, Okay, is he
really to go?
Speaker 5 (40:56):
But I think after if he won a three.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Peat and and now a year from now, exactly we're
just celebrating their third straight ring. I do think a
lot of people and I'd have to see how it
played out, because myself may be included, will be saying
a dudes to go, I'm already saying he's the best
I've ever seen, So that type of accomplishment that no
one else has done. Now, look, Brady still got the
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no one else's won seven, he still got the I
beat Mahmes twice in the.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Big playoffs are so those are yeah, yeah, those are things.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
All right, Rob, Yeah, as you mentioned, and I'm sure
just about everybody knows now that yesterday at the Kansas
City Chiefs Parade to celebrate their second straight Super Bowl
winning their third overall with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid,
there was a shooting. And Rob g fill me in
(00:55):
on the latest updates if I miss anything. But it
apparently there were about a million people there, so it
was packed.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Was it that many? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It was a city, really Yeah, Greater Kansas City, I
believe is about two million, and it was about a million,
that's what they're saying. I know for the royals. I
think it was the Royal parade for the Royals, it
was about eight hundred thousand, and so this one they're
saying it was about a million, and it was jam packed.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
We went last year.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I was there for first things first the TV show
I co host on FS one, and we went last year.
Of course, my co host, Nick Right is from Kansas City,
so we went.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Back for that and it was great day.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Early on, you know, the crowd was tremendous, red everywhere,
of course, and you know, they loved the show and me,
and even though I didn't pick them, they were crowd
was cool.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
A little joking here and there about brew.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Was wrong, Brew was wrong and all that, but it
was going well. And the team came up and spoke.
Chris Jones vowed that he willing to be back there
next year and the year after and all that. Travis
Kelsey was inebriated, but he spoke, and.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Patrick Mahones of course spoke, and a few others.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So we robed. We started taping the show. We pre
taped a little bit of it, and we had taped
probably about forty five minutes. We had just interviewed McCole Hardman,
who made the game winning catch in the Super Bowl,
and then they started, you know, our security that was
(02:43):
there with us started kind of hey, hey, hey, hey,
we gotta get get get your stuff, get your stuff.
We gotta go, we gotta go. And I'm like, you know,
I didn't know exactly what it was. And then quickly
they told us there's an active shooter. And the chiefs
had left this stage Rob a few minutes earlier, so
some of the crowd was starting to leave, but this
(03:05):
still was a good number of people there. And so
our security, you know, starts taking us myself and Kevin
Wil's Nick right.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Nick was concerned about his wife.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
His wife happened to be around, so we got her
and she had her sister and a friend with her.
So and then the rest of our staff with first
things first, and they started leading us out through the crowd.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
And as we're going through the crowd, and the crowd.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
By this point, everybody's leaving and walk I would say
walking fast. I wouldn't say most people were not running,
but walking fast. And I heard out on four or
five gunshots ROB as we were walking away, And that
gave you the impression you didn't know how close they were.
(03:53):
You had heard I had heard a rumbling that it
was inside, but then it got outside and.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
You just didn't know exactly what was going on.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And our hotel was five to ten minutes away, so
we went all the way back to the hotel and
then everybody at that point is just in the lobby.
I went up to my room, and everybody's watching the
news and seeing what's going on. And apparently it was
a beef, a squabble, a disagreement between two young people.
(04:24):
Robbed teenagers and they had guns on them and they
started shooting, and there's.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
A lot of shooting.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Twenty four people. Yeah, a lot of people getting got hit.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Well, I don't think every one of them got hit
with a bullet, most of them, but some people got trampled, thankfully,
not to death, but trampled or maybe fell, and a
couple of people stepped on them as people were leaving,
you know, and rushing their way out of there.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
But robbed more than half the people.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
About half of the people that did get shot were
children below sixteen, which is it's a bad situation all
the way around, but obviously when you hear children involved
like that, it's just it makes it even worse.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
And so, yeah, that was it.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Rob And you know, I'm fine mentally and emotionally in
prayer for those that, you know, some of these kids
saw some of this stuff up close, so you just
pray for their emotional and mental well being going forward.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Obviously the family of the deceased.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
One woman who was a local DJ rob on the show,
she got killed, and then it was just you know,
people injured and stuff.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
So I've been in.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
That situation, Chris. You remember down a Nationals Park in DC.
You remember there was a shooting across the street and
I was in the building.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Oh yeah, remember that, We're in the closet, right.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Remember that was in the boom closet or something.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You know people, right, And that's why I wanted to
ask you, did you hear shots and at any point,
you know, like did you fear for your life or
safety or you know what I mean, because you don't
know where it's coming from. I remember that time for me,
people started running towards me, Chris, as I'm trying to
(06:17):
exit the stadium. So when people run towards me, I'm
believing that there's a shooter behind them, right, and he's.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Coming our way.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Oh yeah, So that was a scared.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
That was the probably the most scared I've ever been
in a public venue, you know what I mean, Where
I thought something bad was gonna happen. Where were you
on that or was it not close enough? But you
said you heard shots though, right, yeah, we were. I
get I had heard.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I think one of the security guards is somebody with us.
As we were leaving and rushing being rushed out, one
of our somebody said the shooting. There were two shooters
and one started. It started inside, so we were good.
I don't know, oh seventy five yards from maybe one
(07:07):
hundred yards I don't.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Know from the Union station, and.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So I thought, Okay, it's inside. But then they said
it got outside. It started inside but came outside. But
we were still enough a further distance away. We weren't
like a long way away, but enough where I felt like, okay,
I'm safe. But then when you heard the shots and
(07:34):
it sounded like firecrackers.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, so you heard the shots, and it did go
through my mind, Okay, it's maybe are they out here
outside closer than we think?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Can some of these bullets get through the crawd You know,
you just didn't know.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
It did cause a little bit of doubt to as
to where how close the shooters may have been to you.
But I didn't. I wouldn't say I was fearful because
if I felt like we were farther far enough away
and moving further away, seeing like we were okay. Yeah,
(08:12):
And I didn't see anybody because again we're surrounded by
people and everybody starting to move out. I didn't see
anybody like get hit or anybody in distress or anything
like that.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And I think it's a little different when people are
running towards you, you know what I mean, because then
you know.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Oh, yeah, you know, you're wondering, like you said, is
the danger following them?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Following them? Why are they running this way? I'm trying
to go that way? And that's why I got scared
when I was in d C.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
No, I did that.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, and you were in you were in the building,
in the stadium.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
You're there's only so many places you can.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Go, Like we were literally leaving the scene and you know,
heading away from it. But Rob, this is becoming commonplace
obviously in our country. And you remember last year when
the Denver Nuggets won their championship. Now there were two shootings.
(09:10):
Some of these are directly related to the situation, They've
said after as they don't think that was related to
the parade, but some of these are on the periphery
and happening the night of a championship or when they
have the parade.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
But the Texas Rangers rob when they won the World Series, there.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Was shootings, the Milwaukee Bucks remember when they won the
championship a few years ago, shootings, the Dodgers in twenty twenty, shootings.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
And so Cleveland, even the Calves when they won in twenty.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Six they have it two Yeah, yeah, and I think
they may have said it was it might they don't
not shuret how related it was, but yeah, they have shootings.
And Toronto even had in twenty nineteen. That's obviously not America,
but still and so yeah, it's just I mean, rob
like this stuff that's to stop because you're you don't
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want like the young generation. And ironically, I was talking
before we went to Kansas City with somebody about over
the weekend we were having dinner, my wife and I
with another couple and their children were younger than ours,
and they were talking about how their children in school,
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you know, how we always used to have tornado drills. Right,
so what you run, you get by the wall, you
get down, you know, like in school, they teach you
have a tornado, they have shooting drills, so in case
there's a mass shooter, this is what you do.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And that's sad that this generation of young people rob.
I mean, that's that's gotta steal some of your innocence.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Because you know what Chris I was gonna say. And
you've covered parades too.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I covered the Mets parade in eighty six. I don't
remember any shoot, you know what I mean, like real
n could be wrong, but I covered it. I don't
remember any I.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Covered the Yankees ninety nine, I covered.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
You remember I was six, right, and you know.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
That's that's all the way down Broadway, Chris and all
those people in New York City and what I don't
And then we went.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
To a park. You go to a park and they start.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
And then that's when they speak. But do you remember
shooting in those That's what I mean. But twenty years later,
it seems like there's always something now more so than
back then. And maybe I don't want to misspeak, but
I don't. I covered those.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Right right now, and I don't, but I don't remember anything.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
But I don't remember shootings.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I don't, right And your first thought, whether it should
be or not, is is there some type of terrorism,
whether domestic or out of the country, you know, somebody.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Out of the country.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
But it turns out it sounds like Robie was two
teenagers when all the.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Cops around know for a parade. That's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
The thing is is like, and I wonder going forward,
like we're talking about going forward with these things, will
some places start doing it inside and a big arena
because then you now you won't get as many people obviously,
but you can control engaged, right, nobody could come in
with a weapon and stuff.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Like they had.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Hundreds of cops. I don't know exactly how many it was,
but you just couldn't. I mean, there were again a
million people and it's way you know, like people for
as far as you can see, and you can't.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
You just can't control who might have a weapon or not.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And for the most part, man, everybody was so great,
and you know, rob it was I.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Guess a celebration.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Everybody was just there to celebrate the chiefs and they're
happy and all that.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
It's supposed to be the happiest moment as a sports fan.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Right, Yeah, that's what you don't know. They have a
win in your lifetime. They won back to back. You know,
you don't know. So most people.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
It's you for a Chris, and people probably don't go
to the games.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
No, they don't get to go, right, So this is
the moment.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 3 (13:48):
All right, Rob, Speaking of the NBA, it's like the
big story.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
That was a non story. But was it Tuesday or Wednesday?
It was?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It came out that the Golden State Warriors had inquired
about Lebron James and his availability because they wanted to
team him with Steph Curry in Golden State. The Lakers said,
they don't want to trade Lebron, but why don't you
call and check with his agent? And Rich Paul is agent,
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obviously getting his info from Lebron or to go ahead
from Lebron, said they don't want to be traded to
Golden State.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
What do your what was your thoughts on this? This
was this was interesting?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Lakers blew it. I would have made the move. Yeah,
I would have made the move.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I would have Lebron doesn't Lebron doesn't doesn't have a
no trade. I mean, I'm not saying that they they
could have said for the betterment of the organization moving forward.
The Lakers could have killed two birds with one stone.
A they don't have a tea. I don't believe they
have a team that's going to be able to knock
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off the Clippers or Denver one of these other teas.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I really don't think that they're going to do that
or get to the Western Conference Finals like they did
a year ago. But they could have made the move
to try to change things going forward. And also, and
I say this with all due respect, also take themselves
out of the BROWNI conversation, where now you might have
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to draft you know a kid who I'm happy he's
back out on the court, Chris, but he's averaging five
or six points for a bad USC team, right, and
you might have to draft him to satisfy Lebron. So
you put your organization again in a spot that probably
isn't the best going forward, you know. And it's one thing,
(15:56):
if I get it, if you didn't pick up the
phone because you weren't trying to shop Lebron. People are
gonna go to Laker game. Oh you're selling tickets steps.
I hate to break it to you. Before Lebron got there, Chris,
they were selling tickets in l A. People love the Lakers.
They're going to go. They don't have to have anybody
to sell tickets to that place. Uh. Lebron's uh run
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with the Lakers, I would call checkered spotty, you know,
with the injuries, with some years not making no I
said that, I said spotty. I didn't say a total
bus but but they did get the Bubble championship. But
there's been other you know, bumps in the road. You
mean the championship. I just said it was in the bubble.
I'm giving it historical. I'm giving it historical.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Uh, it's not a less that you said it like
it's a less job.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
But but I'm just saying from a historical standpoint. So
somebody might be listening to this radio show years from now, going, oh, yeah,
that was a bubble when that when there was a
pandemic going on. Oh yeah, I heard I read about that, Chris,
you know, of his championship. Ever, of course, and if
he would have lost, it was tough to play in
that bubble, and that wouldn't have been yet that would
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have been.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
His story too.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But anyway, Chris, if I would have got a deal
that I was comfortable with, I would have made the
move going forward. Because Lebron, for all the numbers he
puts up, doesn't have the same impact of winning. And
I think that's the part that you have to honestly
look at yourself. It's not that he's terrible. It can't
put up any points, didn't play defense at all or
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not enough to make it. Uh, you know where you
have a real shot at trying to win something, and
I just don't think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
So I would have made the move.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Well, I address that too, but at first I'm looking
at it from a different perspective. Rob, I would have
loved to have seen this. I would love to see
Lebron James.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And Steph Curry play together.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
There have only been three times that I might unless
I'm missing one, and I'll put that out there. Maybe
I'm overlooking something, but there have only been three times. Rob,
were two players who were in the top ten conversation okay,
top ten players all time conversation played together Magic and
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Kareem Kobe and Shaq and Oscar Robertson and Kareem Abdul
Jabbar or Luel Cinder at that time.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I mean, I guess, yeah, Jerry West is not really
in the top ten conversations because he played with Wilt.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
He's not a top ten.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
So this would have been now, wouldn't they have wanted?
They wouldn't have been the favorites. I think they'd have
been a contender, but they wouldn't have been the favorites.
But I think, Rob, it would have just been so
much fun to watch. It would have been such a
draw that I would have loved to have seen it,
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and their games comp I know they're older and neither
one of them is as good as they used to be.
STEP's probably closer to his prime than Lebron is, but
their games compliment each other. So, like you know, it's
not like it be a tough adjustment. Lebron loves to pass,
great pass or court vision, and Steph obviously fantastic shooter.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
And so I just from that.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Standpoint, I would have loved to have seen it happen.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Now from your standpoint you address with the Lakers, here's
I get where you're going, because they're not.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I don't think they're gonna win the West this year.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I think they, you know, got a puncher's I wouldn't
even say a puncher's chance to win the West. I
would say a puncher's chance to make a deep playoff run.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
But here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
If you trade Lebron, I mean you're probably talking about
Clay with his salary, and maybe you get Jonathan kaminga
who's nice Cominga's average about twenty points the last two months,
and he's emerging, as you know, it looks like he
could maybe one day, maybe one day be a star.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
So that would have.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Been something but here's the thing, And Rob, you've covered
sports for a long time and you know this can
be a factor, doesn't always have to and you can
ignore it if you're a team, if you want. But
Rich Paul is now arguably the most powerful agent in
the NBA. Arguably he's certainly in the conversation the Knicks
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like don't get his players, you know now, I think
they've they've recently smoothed things over where maybe that could change.
But he's got a lot of guys. And I remember
he's got Anthony Davis. So if they traded Lebron again,
hiss Lebron's will how long before Anthony Davis wants out?
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And and look, he doesn't have to listen to Rich.
He Rich works for him, so a d could stop it.
But I'm just saying maybe he wouldn't. Maybe you're the
one if you're the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Though, you can't sell your soul for for and and
I hear the Rich Paul thing. You know what I mean,
You're not Charlotte, You're not Charlotte's play.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
All these guys are under Rich Draymond Green.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I'm going and on, but I'm just I'm not saying
they should I'm just saying that's.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Something that's a factor there. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Okay, I hear you, and that's fair, but but you
have to look out for your own organization long term
and going forward. And that's why I brought up the
Broni stuff because that's the next thing on the table,
right and and what's the story.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
We're gonna talk about that right later on anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
But I'm just saying, if I'm the Lakers, that might
have been an opportunity to just get he might leave anyway,
Chris Right, he could walk and he has a player
option for next year. Right, And if they say, just
say that they changed their mind, we're not drafting Brownie,
and well, I'm gonna opt out and I'm gonna go
to Charlotte and then we'll go there with my son.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
And we'll play together. Then you lose him for nothing.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I mean, So the Lakers are in the spot right
where they could he could just walk on them, where
maybe there was a chance of getting something and you
would have had a Clay's salary spot, Chris Right, with
a young player.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I'm just now, look kame in good. Like I said,
he looks like he could one day be a star.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
He might just need space and his own place to
op well.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
And he's playing, he's playing well.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I'm just off.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
It's a little bit for him in Golden State, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
So, I mean, obviously that's the Warriors thinking is we'll
keep him and he'll become a star here, or they'll
use him the trade for somebody, which maybe that was Lebron.
But I hear you because again, I don't think they're
about to win a championship, you know, with Lebron and
a D. But if they let him go, you know,
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we saw him last night. Obviously they look good without him.
They beat Utah, that's Utah, but still they played well,
they beat Boston without Lebron and a D.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I mean, I I think they want Lebron to retire
as a Laker. Now, you're right, we don't know what
Lebron's gonna do. I I think I feel like he's
going to stay.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
But Chris, I'm not sure that. Well, I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I don't know if and I I don't know if
it's a certainty that Brianni's coming out. But you can't
he might, I Don'tron, you can't you can't bank on
another year. But the answer should be Bronni, you know
what I mean, But I know it should.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
You don't know what Lebron's held, but but I mean,
it's a lot of things that could stop him from
everybody get it.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
But if I'm Bronnie and I don't know what Bronni's thinking,
But what if Bronni's like dad, I'm not First of all,
I'm enjoying college. Secondly, I'm I'm not ready. I average
five points a game on thirty five percent shooting.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
For it, and he might take my face class next semester.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Let me know.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
If you see him around her, get him on the show.
But nah, I mean, you know what I'm saying. And
I don't know what Briannie. Maybe he is like his dream,
just like Lebron's has been to play with my dad.
So maybe that's If that's the case and that's in
the works, fine, But I also think rob if the
Lakers did draft.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Bronnie, I don't think that's the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I think you got twelve or fifteen guys on the team.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
It could potentially be bad for teammates. You know, Chris,
you know, like people have to earn their way. We
talked about this before and and I get it. They
could be cool with Lebron, but there could be resentment
from some guy.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Could it. Could they could challenge it for Bronnie.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
That's what I'm saying. And I'm gonna give you didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
We talked about this before with urban Meyer when he
brought in uh the quarter Tim Tebow, Tim Tebow, people
in there were like, dude, he don't you know what
I mean, Like like Chris, Tim Tebow is a popular guy,
he is a good guy, all that stuff, but people
like he didn't he didn't deserve this shot. He didn't
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earn a chance to be there. I'm just saying sometimes.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Players, but we've talked that, there's no look, there's no doubt.
I mean, we've talked about that. Are guys looking at
Brownie like, man, you only hear because of your dad?
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Now with the Lakers, obviously they have a lot of
respect for Lebron that you know, they can't go when
he's around and stuff like that, so that situation might
be a little different. And you know, if Brownie's not
playing a lot, which I wouldn't expect him to be,
but who knows if Lebron tries to.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Push those But like I said, if they just draft.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Him and he's learning and getting better under the Lakers,
I mean, like I said, the challenge will be for him.
I don't know if it's the worst thing in the
world for the Lakers, but it's an interesting thing you
bring up, because again, if you're not gonna win the championship,
then maybe you start looking to do something else.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
But I get it. You know they're gonna try to
go for it.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Maybe I think at best they can make a deep
playoff run, but that I think is their ceiling this year.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
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Speaker 3 (26:42):
Budding Story in Golden State Clay Thompson, the future Hall
of Famer, and Keith cogg in their dynasty they've had
over the past seven eight years, eight years guest nine years.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
He was benched tonight, oh man, I believe or not.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
He's also still their second leading scorer seventeen points a game.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Talked about that. Remember I said that they should start
to move off of him.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
It's interesting the last this month February, which isn't a
full month yet, it's only about about eight games or so,
seven games, he's only averaged thirteen points Rob on thirty
eight percent shooting.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Now, two games ago he did drop twenty.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Six, right, he had that one big game, but it's
been mostly bad.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I mean he was fine in January, average twenty, but
this month he scored eight, ten, five, twelve, Like he's
been off. And I think the thing is Rob last night,
we know, you know, he he committed the foule. They're
down three to the Clippers. He commitsed the file with
thirty nine seconds left on purpose, just kind of losing
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track of what's going on. Clippers go down, hit the
free throws. Making a five point game is basically over.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
That's not what you want to do, right, No, no, he.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean everybody was like, what are you doing, dude.
The thing about Clay right now, Rob is he's not
It's not only that his game. He's just getting older
and he's had the injuries, and I know he sees
Steph still playing great at thirty five Clay's a year younger,
thirty four, and probably feels like why I should be
(28:26):
able to be my old self too. So I think
it's not only that he's losing his game, but he's
not handling it well at all, mentally and emotionally. Rob
And that's probably why they've gone to the benching as
much as the dropping production, just because he's not handling
it well.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But don't you also think for him there's a degree
there to Chris financially. Remember he wanted a new contract.
He thought that they kind of slighted him. I mean,
there's a lot of stuff going on here, and maybe
it's wearing on him as well, because I I just think.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
You know, he should. I'm sure he's got.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Oh, it's not about whether he has money or not.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I agree with you there, but I think he was
expecting a contract.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
I think he was. I just and.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
You you and I know you know as well as anybody.
A lot of times players aren't realistic. It's just right,
he can't step you and I can look at this
and Rob g and Alice whoever, but no, he's looking
at it.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Ain't no way you're paying it, he's.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Saying, and Draymond Green got a new deal. Steph is
making fifty million. You know, like you start to look around.
I help win these championships too. Don't make it like
I wasn't a party. Did dra I got hurt? Did
dray mind?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
One might bother him more than anything, just to say
bother like there's beef between them.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
But Draymond is not what he used to be either.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
He's still better than Clay overall, but he's not what
he used to be. And you know Rob also he
may be looking at it and all the trouble Draymond causes.
So you reward that dude that I've been a good soldier.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I worked myself back because from two major injuries to
get back to play.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
This ain't like I just fell off, just fell off.
I got hurt.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
I got hurt, given by all, I get it.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
But you know what, and this is where you just
gotta I don't want to say I like Clay a
lot now that he's a grown man. He's a man,
so I don't want to, you know, insult him or anything.
But sometimes this is just life. You know how many
people would like to be where you and I are.
I know, every day, right, every day and they're thinking
(30:42):
I could do what they do. Why am I not
making the money there make? Rob G's always saying that
why ain't I making the money they make?
Speaker 5 (30:50):
You know, but sometimes every day you just sometimes.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
You gotta just accept that life isn't a bowl of chocolates.
And you know what I mean. And I get everything
you said was legit, Robbie. He may very well be
feeling that way, and we can actually understand it, but
this is the reality and your life and your career
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has been tremendous and so you know, it is what
it is. Not make it easy to deal with, I
get it, but this is where we're at it.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
It's nearing the end for Clay.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
It's just and they would be out of their minds
to give him like an extension.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
No, I can't see that now with even benching him, Chris,
even in the season, that's.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Going to ride for them, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Like that's probably even worse to say, like we don't
even think we could get out of it with Clay playing.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
We rather play all the way they've.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Been playing well lately, So I think I mean they're
not they're they're I don't even think they're as good
as the Lakers, but they don't really have a chance.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
But I think they're just gonna go for it and
see what they can do.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And how about the whole idea Lebron And you think
that maybe got him to that that he would be
that like that he.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Was the guy that they would have made a deal.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
You know what I mean when you say to train,
I gotta I gotta expire in contract?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Was it me? Oh wow? Now they called the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
It would have had to include either him or Wiggins
to make it work financially, right, and probably Clay But yeah, yeah,
that's a good point. That might be getting to him
as well. So we'll keep you posted on that. But Rob,
let's go here, Patrick Mahomes, we got sound.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
He was on CNN yesterday before the parade. Here's what
he said.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
I think it's more than just me trying to be
the best that I can be. I don't want to
have any regrets at the end of my career. And
I know how great of an organization, how great of
a coach, tight end players that I have around me,
and I don't want to let that, let that slide by.
I want to make sure I maximize my opportunities, and
obviously the goal is is always seven. It's always to
try to get as much as you can, and so
all I can do is just try to maximize my
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opportunities every single day, continue to work to be better,
not only for myself but for my team, and we'll
see what happened at the end of my career.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Goal is seven.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Do you think Patrick Mahos needs seven rings to be
viewed as the goat?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I think he has to.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I do think he has to get six and one,
seven and two to at least match him.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I do not believe. And for me, Chris, here's a
problem I have.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
It's not how you start, it's how you finished that
has a big effect on how people look at you.
That's what turned Brady's career around and the way people
view him. If Tom Brady would have won those first three, Chris,
and then with the nine years and say he didn't
win again, no, he wouldn't even be in that conversation.
So it's hot. John Elway. John Elway was a loser
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in Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Right his team.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And I'm not saying he he was awful or whatever.
I know he didn't play that great and his team
Juwsy got blown out.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
He was gonna be a Hall of Famer. But yeah,
he didn't.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Play, but he but his but his image.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
He plays won for the most part, but his image.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Though change with the back to back to retires.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
What I'm saying, so if Pat and Patrick Mahomes's case,
I think that's going to be a big part on
how people look at him. And here's the other thing, Chris,
there's a couple of things going that could work against him.
And here it is, if he doesn't win once Andy
Reid retires, if he doesn't win once Kelsey retires, like like,
(34:44):
that is where I think people will will be able
to look at his career and say, man, you know what,
Andy Reid retire, he still won, Kelsey left, he still won.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Then you start to look at that if.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
He if he can say it about Tyreek, oh he
did it once. But I'm just saying, but if he
doesn't win, right, but if he doesn't win again in
his career, there's no way. Oh yeah, I agree with that.
I mean, he's got to win more.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
But here here's and I agree with you on the
Andy and and Kelsey points.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Right, if they leave, say I mean.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
A couple of years from now and they do whatever.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
Where I disagree with you are at is. I don't
think for him now, I'm not. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
He does have to continue to win to some level,
you know, I mean some super Bowl. He doesn't win
more Super Bowls, but I don't think I think he's
different from Brady and l Way in that. Like you said,
what what made Brady Brady was that he won later
in his career. Well, but that's because Brady wasn't as
(35:52):
good individually early in his career. Like nobody, even after
Brady won three championships, rop nobody.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Was thinking of him.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
I mean, goat well, people thought he was a system QB.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Well, it was on So seven when he got Moss
and started putting up all these numbers, and then from
that point people started even before he was winning, it
was like individual, you know, when he did before he
won his fourth Super Bowl, individually, people thought of him
higher than they did when he was winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
But the only difference thing, I think you're leaving out
and I get it with the first three, but there
was Joe Montana sitting there four and zero and the
numbers and all the records in the Super Bowl. So
you're right there was no conversation, but it had more
to do that might give it in front of them.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I'm saying Brady wasn't even like it's like Terry Bradshaw.
Bradshaw got four rings. Nobody was thinking to him as
the goat. It was like, Brady won these championships. He's
a good quarterback, but go I mean Peyton Mayor. There
are a lot of people that were ahead of him
at that point because he didn't seem like a great
(36:57):
great He was very good, but not a great individual player.
And then we saw with Moss and what he did,
and then they obviously went on to win super Bowls
and lways the same way, and that he didn't win early,
so he had to win late and Brady had to
put up numbers and win late. Mahomes has already put
up the numbers. We know how Grady is individually and
(37:21):
he's won. So I don't think those are fair comparisons,
because I mean, their career hasn't started anywhere near how
his has as far. But as far as the ring count,
Rob I've always said, because of how he's how great
he's been individually, I mean, he's got two MVPs. Brady
had none at this point. He's got two First Team
(37:43):
All pros. Brady had none at this point. Because of
how great he's been individually, I don't think it'll take
seven rings.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
I've always said five.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
If he continues, you know, to be great individually, Rob
maybe win another MVP within that stretch and all that.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
But Rob and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I gotta see if it plays out and how it
would play out. But I'm gonna say this, if he wins,
if they three peat, which has never been done in
the Super Bowl era, if they three pat and he
has a like you know, it's great and individually great
and all that, that might that might change my view.
(38:29):
I have to see how it would happen. But a
three peat, something that's never been done.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
That that would be a feather in his cap.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
But that wouldn't even that wouldn't seal anything because if
he didn't repeat and they had four, I'll give you that,
but again, he doesn't win again and he plays eight
or nine years.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
But I hear that, I'm I think that I'm just
saying I know I hear you, but I'm saying at
four let's say this time.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
He actually made at four.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I think people are already saying not everybody, but I
think a lot of people are are just like, he's
the goat.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
I mean, he repeated he you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Now, you're right, Maybe maybe maybe if if the next
six years he doesn't win again, maybe people are revisiting
it and even sooner, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
But I still think he has the past. To me,
Joe Montana, Uh, you know, I don't think he's done one.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I'm the only one.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
And you know what, you know, what's crazy is the
way you everybody discounts Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw actually has
better numbers in the Super Bowl than than Patrick Mahony.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
I'm just giving. I'm just talking about it's shocking in
the Super.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Bowl that people don't look at Terry Bradshaw as being
much a part of, you know, what they were able
to do with the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I'm saying, I mean, Bradshaws are respected, but he was
never even four and O.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
People weren't looking at Bradshaw going oh my god.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
You know, but that's because I mean, he wasn't Roger
Starbagg was better than Terry Brashaw. Like Bradshaw wasn't viewed
as like the best quarterback in the league. He only
made three Pro Bowls, so that's that's where Bradshaw you know,
gets hurt from like regular season and again he won
an MVP.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
He was a three time Pro Bowler, so he was
very good.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
But I mean, he wasn't like the best player on
that team by any stretch, you know. And but I
think he's respect But that's what I'm saying, Like it's
not just about super Bowls and super Bowl performance, and
that's what Mahomes has, the super Bowls, but he also
has the the regular season, you know, performances.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
So that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I agree that he if he won next year and
then didn't win again, I think at some point during
that drought, people would start to wonder, Okay, is he
really to go?
Speaker 5 (40:56):
But I think after if he won a three.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Peat and and now a year from now, exactly we're
just celebrating their third straight ring. I do think a
lot of people and I'd have to see how it
played out, because myself may be included, will be saying
a dudes to go, I'm already saying he's the best
I've ever seen, So that type of accomplishment that no
one else has done. Now, look, Brady still got the
(41:22):
no one else's won seven, he still got the I
beat Mahmes twice in the.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Big playoffs are so those are yeah, yeah, those are things.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
But
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