February 23, 2024 • 42 mins
Chris Broussard and Rob Parker talk about Wemby's hype midway in the NBA season. Plus, the guys talk about Nick Saban talking about the NIL and the NBA's Top 4 MVP frontrunners.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:42):
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Speaker 3 (01:21):
With all that said, let me welcome in my partner
Rob Parker. What's up man?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
What's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Mister Chris Busson on this funky Flashback Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm fantastic, man, excellent, not as fantastic as me, Chris,
because I'm gonna say it and it's on social media
and I'm just gonna put it out there.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yes, put it to the house.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Eddie very excited with some news about the radio in.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Detroit and.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I'm gonna start a radio station Chris called sports Wrap Radio.
And the best part, if all go well, the odd
couple will be on in Detroit. What's on that station
every night seven to ten pm?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Easter.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
That is awesome and that is awesome. Now when does
it start?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
So mid May and this will be Chris, we believe,
the first all black sports talk radio station in the country.
And very excited about it.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Man. That's a great achievement.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Really really is.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
And the partners needed to get a lot of guys
some opportunities. That's what it is, Chris, and you know
that I'm all about that, and we want some fresh
new voices, develop some new people. So when openings are around,
people can't say, oh, there are no black guys doing
sports talk.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
There'll be plenty of guys to choose from.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
So it's just a start, and we hope to long
term Chris become a sports network and be in the
top twenty twenty five black markets in the United States.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So there it is.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Fox Sports Radio is going to be a part of
it because we're hoping to have the Odd Couple, We're
hoping to have Martin and VJ, and we're hoping to
have up on Game On on the station as well.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Chris, right right, right, Well that's great man, Congratulations, I'm
excited about that too, Thank you. We're on in Detroit obviously,
but no, no, we're not.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
We're not on Detroit.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
We were back on and then the station of something
changed to Conservative talk something.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
They not getting us in Moti now you know that, right,
So that's why it'll be great.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
We'll be on, you know, on our regular slot in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
All right, Well, let's introduce the Eye Couple crew and
get the party started. The super producer is out Rob
g but it is Steve Patrick, Sweeka Patrick doing a
fantastic job. We look forward to working with you tonight
on the updates. The man Steve This Seger Elijah sebun
is on the social media and it's a funky Flashback Friday.
(03:55):
So you know, dj Alex tight shit is where I'm
in the greats, He's.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
In the crates.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So get ready for some old school funk on this
funky flashback Friday. And Rob speaking of old school, there
is nothing old school about Victor wim Banyama, and we
are going to speak about him.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Because they faced the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Wym Banyama in his San Antonio Spurs face the Lakers
tonight and Lebron James is playing. So you know, we
were right about I thought Lebron would I didn't know,
but I thought it's a good chance he plays tonight.
And you know, sat out last night against Golden State,
(04:43):
and I figured he wouldn't play both nights of a
back to back.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
They chose that when my presumptions, because he gave him
an extra day arrest shoes. Yeah, they lost the Golden Down.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Now they may have lost with him, but Golden State
beat him in a big game.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Remember are close games and these teams are all tight
in the Western Conference. And with that win, of course,
Golden State gained the game on the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Now they're just a half game back.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It's still a lot a lot to go. But I
was surprised last night. You remember that was my best
bet taking the Warriors because it was only minus five
and a half. You remember I said, even with all Lebron,
I thought that was like five and a half. They
won by what eighteen at one bet?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
They they I mean the Lakers threw in the tower
at about seven eight minutes left, six seven minutes left,
something like that. So yeah, Lebron and Wimby will be
facing off tonight, and Robbie he's got a.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Song for Wimby.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Everyone knows it's Wimby. Boom boom, boom boom.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I hope, y'all, I hope you ain't bringing that to Detroit.
They'll be like, is this a country western.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Station or is this a hip hop station? Na, But
it's a good time to weigh in on Wimby.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
We know he's the probably the most touted prospect since
Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And when you look at the sheer, you know, praise
of him.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And I mean, rob I don't nobody was as touted
as Lebron because Lebron was here in America and we
saw Lebron.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
As a high school player and we his.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Games were even on TV at times, so he got
more you know, publicity and stuff than Wimby.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But as far as like what people were saying.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
About Winbin Yama, I don't know if there's been anybody
since like Kareem Abdul Jabbar Luel Cinder at that time
who's really had more praise. I mean, people saying he
could be the gold and you know, he is just
some unlike anything we've ever seen. So I think it's
a good time, after fifty games in his rookie year
to kind of take an assessment of him and see
(06:56):
where we think he's at. Let me give you his
status quickly, and then a quote Kevin Durant when Ben
Yama rob he's averaging twenty points, twenty point five points,
he's averaging ten point one rebounds, so twenty and ten,
and he's averaging a league high three point two block shots.
(07:17):
He's only playing twenty eight minutes a game. Now, you know,
he had the ankle injury, so he's still on like
a minute's restriction. I think he's frustrated and wants to
play more. But and if he's injured, fine, I like
to see him play more. I'm frustrated too.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, the issue, right, But I look forward and I
hope this is not just low management by the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
This guy next year, he's shown rob because you know,
we talk all the time with ex athletes carry kittles
and the like about how, you know, guarding out on
the floor on the perimeter now for big guys especially
is more taxing, more chances for injury.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
He he gets out there on the perimeter and guards.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Chris, did you see that? Like I thought? And he
got up and kept going.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
He turned it, but yeah, yeah, I mean that happens,
and yeah he rob he.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean, we've seen big.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Guys and understandably so people were concerned, like is he
going to be able to stay healthy because we know
the Sean Bradley's, the Greg Odins and you know yao
means and so many guys who are incredibly tall who
haven't been able to stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
But he has not really appeared any different than any.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Other player out there as far as the risks and
how taxing you know, the perimeter play is for him
and stuff. So it looks like that won't be a problem.
Let's certainly hope. So K yeah, yeah, I I I
have seen nothing.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
There eleven and forty five, one of the worst records.
I think it's the third worst record yea third worst
record in the league, worse than the West. But I
tell you what, individually, I've seen nothing to make me think, oh,
he's not as good as advertised, or he won't be
(09:13):
as good as the projections. I think this guy and
I actually feel like next year he's gonna take a
huge jump and probably be like a top ten player
next year. I think it's phenomenal and I see nothing
not to like about him.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I'm disappointed in how bad the team is, and I'm
not saying that's all on him, Chris, but he's a
generational talent. You have to at that age and the
numbers you're putting up in a limited amount of time
you're playing, you would think you'd have just a little
bit more impact on the game. And there were just
too many for me. They lost eighteen in a row,
(09:51):
and I'm not Chris. Show me a spot where Kareem
abdul Jabar lost eighteen in a row at any level,
Where Michael Jordan lost eighteen in a row at any level. Well,
Lebron James lost eighteen in a row at any level.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I can't imagine of the all time greats anybody losing
at that clip. That's the only part where I question anything.
How I'm not saying you gonna. I'm not saying you
want to win, make the playoffs, so play five hundred, Chris,
I'm not saying that. But lose eighteen in a row
(10:29):
and you're that talented, that's shocking to me.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, to me, they have no point guard. So number one,
they don't have a point guard. And if you watch
them early in the season, I was pulling my hair out,
like get the ball to winby Like they weren't even
looking for him anymore than anybody else, Zach Collins or
whoever it was out there. And so I think one,
(10:53):
not having a point guard, they don't have very good
perimeter shooting, so all of that a lot as bad spacing.
They're not getting him him the ball where he should
get it. So I think those are reasons. But also Rob,
you you mentioned impact he has impact the Spurs, and
(11:14):
I tell you he's only playing like twenty eight minutes
a night. The Spurs defensive rating Rob with win Benyamo
on the court is one twelve point six that but
won't mean much to people, But that would rank when
he's on the court, that would rank seventh in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Like they would have the seventh best defense in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
When he's off the court, their defensive rating jumps to
one nineteen point nine, that would be twenty eighth in
the league. And so that's impact. I mean, it's just
when he's not out there, obviously the defense is horrific
and so and just in general, I don't typically blame rookies.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
For not winning.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I don't expect them to win because with Ron didn't
make the playoffs his first two years. You know, Bird
played great and won, but he went to a team
that had even though they didn't win a lot of
games before that, they had a bunch of Hall of Fame.
They were older, they were bad, they were twenty seven
twenty nine games.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I think it's here before he got there.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Sixty one. But Bird was also a grown man when
he entered the league.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Burt was like twenty two, you know when he when
he got into the league. So I just think Rob, like,
when you look at this guy, he can do everything.
He can handle the ball, He's Nutmegan people, he can
pass one of the big keys. They moved him to
center and bench Collins, who was starting that center next
to him. But Collins couldn't shoot, couldn't spread the floor,
(12:46):
so now there's more room for him to work. He's
played much better since they moved them the center. I
assume they're gonna get a point guard who can get
him the ball in the right spots over the summer,
get some shooting around him, and as he just get stronger,
whether he fills out that body or not, we'll see.
But as he gets stronger, I mean his shot blocking,
(13:09):
his coverage on the perimeter, his passing. He's tough down
low as far as scoring the basketball, obviously with his size,
but he could shoot it too. Like the dude man,
I think he's as good as advertised. Here's what Kevin
Durant said about him.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
This was during the All Star break, and Durant was
a guy he looked up to growing up and you know,
wanted to play like him. Durant said this, he can
achieve anything he wants in this game. He's only getting
(13:51):
more comfortable as time goes on. Luckily, I'm on my
way out, so I won't have to deal with it
too much. But yeah, Rob, I think I think the
dude is the truth, and I'm excited about the future.
I actually think it's gonna be a huge jump next year.
(14:12):
He'll know what to expect now, and I think the
Spurs will do a better job building around him, and
I expect him to really take off next year. But
let's start out to listeners eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox eight seven, seven, nine nine six sixty three
sixty nine fifty games in. What are your thoughts on
Victor winm Banyama? Is he as good as advertised or
(14:35):
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All right, it is the odd couple. I'm Chris. He's Rob.
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We're live from the tirerag dot com studios on a
Funky Flashback Friday. Rob Alex and I are having an
interesting conversation during the break, and I was talking to
him about, like, you know, he's a DJ. I mean,
we don't just say that he knows his music, you know,
that's not just a little stick or anything. And I
(16:34):
was talking to him about some hip hop samples, like
original hip hop samples, and if you ever just listen
to the original songs sometimes it's amazing. And so we
might do he might do a hip hop samples one
day for Funky Flashback Friday, which I think would be tight.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So but let's go to the NBA.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Rob. We got Funky Cold Ark Medena coming looking at
the bottom of the hour, so we'll obviously talk NBA
with him.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
But Rob, I was just looking at the NBA MVP odds.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And you know, we're starting to get toward that time
where you have.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
To really start looking at.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Right, yeah, next week, which I can't.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Believe, you know, because All Star Game isn't the midway point, No,
it's way.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Past that.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
So right now, Rob, he was my preseason pick.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I don't remember I think he might have been yours too,
But Nicola jokicch is the leader at minus one forty,
so he's a sizable leader right now. Shae Gilges Alexander,
Oklahoma City's tremendous point guard, is second, Yannis is third,
Luka Doncic is fourth, and I do think like Luka,
(17:52):
Rob their surgeon.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
They won seven straight. If they keep playing well.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And winning, if he can get in like the top certainly,
if you can get in the top four, or if
they can finish ahead of Denver record wise, I think
he'd have a great shot at winning it. And then
fifth is Jason Tatum. But the interesting thing here, Rob,
and you and I have kind of touched on this
here and there. We've thrown it out and we've done
(18:18):
even we've gone a little deeper on it. But those
perceived perceptible listeners may have already picked it up. But
the top four MVP candidates, Rob are all international players.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Jo Kics from Serbia, Shae from Canada, Joannis from Nigeria.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
And Canada is a foreign country.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Okay, they want to claim the Canadian players, but Christ,
it's a foreign country.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I know.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Living in Detroit, Windsor, Canada, Christians, you five minutes away
exactly my apartment I had downtown when I first moved
to Detroit. So oversaw, Chris of the Windsor. Uh, you
can look right into Windsor from my apartment. I mean,
that's how close Detroit.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Is, is it?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
I mean you said five minutes, I mean like like
fifteen minutes through the tunnel. Fifteen minutes of tunnel. Okay,
my brother lives on the water, he lives he lived
in the rich part of Yeah, that's beautiful area. But
you can see it across right. No, no, no, Chris,
it's literally like if you live downtown where I lived,
(19:36):
it's literally fifteen minutes from my apartment through the tunnel
across to.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Windsor, Canada. Like that's how close it is. It's that close.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's like you said, it is close.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
But it is a foreign country.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So you know, we got Luca to round it out,
righte from Slovenia. Right what and Rob when we look.
Now you got Jason Tatum, he's fifth and he's young. Thankfully,
we got Anthony Edwards, he's young. Anthony Edwards, we're gonna
talk about him a little later. That boy is just bad.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
We were we were all in his camp year.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
We were right, go back, go back, got against uh LaMelo,
who is good. He just can't stay healthy. But Chris
and not winning that year, we thought he should have been.
And now look at that kid. Yeah he he he
could be next. And we're gonna get into that. But
so those guys are, it's nice to see them. You
got John Moray, he gets his act, you know, stuff
(20:35):
straightened out, you know, I hope.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
So he's too young to good.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
So there are and Zion is starting there, starting to win,
and Zion's playing well. So there are some American players
coming up, Rob, But I want to know and look,
some people may say this, and we're gonna open it
up to the callers, Rob, but some people.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
May be like, look, I mean, we're we're lamenting.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
The demise, if you will, of the American you know,
superstars and the fact that the best players in the
world are no longer from America.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
We still, I think, have the best country.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You don't have one country that's gonna beat our best guys,
but that might be coming because you know, we gotta
send the big boys over there now Lebron and Steph
and Durant, but they gonna be retiring pretty soon, so
we'll see about that. But Rob, some people might just say, look,
it's the world. It's the world. Of course, the world
(21:36):
is going to produce better players than just one country
called America, even though it's been our sport. They've been
playing basketball long enough in these other places that maybe
some people might just say that, right, And that might
be true. Maybe that's true. I don't know, you know,
because you're talking about Joki Serbia.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Okay, who else they got from Serbia?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I know they got a few guys, but yeah, Lucas.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
It's not like it's forty guys coming in. That's a
big difference between that, right, So.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
We get that.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
But I do think Rob that I think we need
to take a long, hard look in the mirror at
how we're developing players, and I think that there are
some things that could be changed. I think in overseas,
I think that their young players are coming up in
(22:30):
a lot more humble circumstances. I don't mean necessarily socioeconomic,
although that could be a factor too, but I mean
when they're fifteen and they're the best player in their
country at that age, you know, best fifteen year old
in their country, they're playing on a team with grown
men and not getting much playing time, practicing every day
(22:52):
and getting beat up and.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Schooled by adults.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So then as they age and get feeling into their
body eighteen nineteen, now they're the man.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
They're ready to ball, whereas our fifteen year olds.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Rob, if you that nice at fifteen in America, you
got millions of social media followers, and I mean millions
right right, hundreds of thollions, thousands for some but millions
for others. You might have it in il you you
know you you're getting I mean people treating you like
a celebrity in a superstar And obviously if you got
(23:27):
that many followers, you're getting.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Paid for that.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
And I just and Rob, to top it off, AAU,
you're playing games.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
We've heard it time and time again. They might AA
you you might play.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Over the weekend, yes, and the other In other countries,
they are drilling, they're running through drills, they're practicing, and
our guys are just playing a lot of games and
not developing that those skills. You know, they're skilled obviously
in ball handling and shooting and stuff. But not drilling
nearly as much as they do overseas. So I think
those are factors. But the thing is robbed. Outside of
(24:06):
the social media thing, which is a big thing, the
other things are fixable.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
You, Those are fixable.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I mean it might be tough because kids are used
to this stuff now, but I think those things are fixable.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
But where are you at on this robe?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Because clearly, I mean we we are not producing the
best players in the world anymore. And like I said,
the top four MVP candidates kind of spells that. And
if it was m B, if INNB wasn't hurt, rob
me be the top.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Five, Chris. I don't know if there is any turning back.
I gotta admit I think AAU basketball has ruined the
basketball that we play in this country. I'm just I
told you before I went to see uh not LaMelo
and his brother.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Oh yeah, remember I told you that Andel and Liangels.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I went to that game, and I remember here in
Los Angeles, Lonzo was you know, not longer, but the
other two, and I thought it was atrocious.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I thought it was cherry picking.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
They were known for. They literally cherry picked.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Cherry picked the whole game like because then I was like, no, wonder,
he's scoring sixty eight points or whatever it was. He
don't run back and he plays the whole game. The
coach can't say anything to him. You know what I mean,
Chris terrible. That's not gonna get you an MVP. Okay,
you'll get You'll get a lot of followers. You'll get
and I own money. People will go quick, You're not
(25:38):
going to get an MVP playing like that, and that's
what we have.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
People might think you're over exaggerating, you're not. They were known.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Christ call up videos of LaMelo and them in high school.
They literally wouldn't cross half court.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
For most of the game.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
They would just stay there and wait for you to
throw the ball at him like it was their birthright.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Throw me the ball.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Seriously, And I'm talking about first hand knowledge, Chris, I
went to the I'm not talking about what I saw.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
When someone told me, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I wanted to go see them play in person for
myself so I could talk about it.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
And I was stunned. And you look at LaMelo Rode.
The dude is incredibly skilled.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He is nice.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
LaMelo is nice, six seven point guard, handle, great passer
can shoot fairly.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Well and it's not rapped. This year's numbers are twenty four,
eight and five.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Like he's bad, but I think he doesn't know how
to play like winning team basketball.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
He's just a show.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
He's just exciting, But when it comes down to winning
team basketball, I.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Don't think he has a clue on that. And that's
what we're.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Creating, and that and that, that is what you're creating.
And those are the guys who people are going gaga over, Chris.
But then when you get into these situations about winning
basketball games and doing all the other stuff, it doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And that's why.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Uh and and you're right, it's not like a million
guys are coming from foreign countries, but the ones who
are coming are awful good, are awful skilled, know how
to play basketball. And for for the NBA to be
in this situation is shocking. Seriously, Chris, like not not
that fourign born players can't win an MVP. Every so
(27:36):
often on mix in it says like total dominance. And
you just said it. If MB wasn't hurt, it would
be five five out of and that that makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yep, no, right that that like five out the tie
out of five, there's nobody else. And Rob, it's one
hundred and twenty five international players in the league today.
That's twenty of the league. I mean that that's a lot,
and that's look, it's the best players. But I wonder
(28:08):
is that gonna keep growing? Is that gonna keep growing?
It's good question that you know, because we've talked about it,
like yesterday we talked about the demise of the college
game among men. I don't know who among the of
those college players is gonna be in the NBA. I
know there's probably gonna be a lot of draft picks
(28:29):
from overseas, right, and then we got some of the
kids from you know, the minor leagues. But yeah, it
doesn't You might be right, I'm I'm I gotta be honest.
There is a bit of wishful thinking in what I'm saying,
because you wouldn't think it's gonna turn around.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I don't, because I just I believe I would that
someone's gonna be uh, Tim Duncan the big fundamentals, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's some playing like that Chris.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
That doesn't get you any juice, that doesn't get you
any followers.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It just doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I mean, and we talked about this when we talked
about international playing America in the All Star Game. I mean,
you wonder if will the fact that the international players
are playing.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
So well, maybe does that drive does that like a
fire among some of our American players.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
That's what you will hope too, that they say, hold up,
this is supposed to be our game, right and we're
not even the best players in basketball anymore. Cause I'm
telling you, Rob this to me, and then we'll go
to the listeners after.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
You can comment quick if you want. This is the
last these upcoming Olympics.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
This will be the last time we can say all right,
enough enough, we about to send the.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Big boys to put y'all in y'all place.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
This will be hit Rob after this.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
You're right, and the United States might not see a
gold medal for years to come.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
No, that's real, that's real. All right A seven seven
ninety nine on Fox. You'll turn the way in what
do we do?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Can we do anything to have America start producing the
best basketball players in the world again? And look, it's
no problem if we don't, because we love watching Luka
and Jokic and all that. But I'm just saying it
is supposed to be our game. What can we do
to start producing the best players in the world again?
(30:30):
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get off of the air. Rob. At the bottom of
the hour, we got a good friend, Sean King, former
NFL quarterback, will join the show and look he has
been a guy Rob, that's been incredibly accurate when talking
about a lot of quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Oh no, definitely. I saw Sean.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
He had an event Chris during the Super Bowl. So
I spent some time. Yeah yeah, yeah, so Sean, And
he has a knock for it. He knows he was
a quarterback and yeah, he owes it. And they were
close to getting the Super Bowl. He was a quarterback
with Tony Dungee's team.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
First. They just couldn't they just couldn't get over the hump.
They had a great team. That's a team that wound
up winning the super Bowl right right after that. But
he was a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
But he Rob, he's out on it. I told him
to when I asked him to come on the show.
He's out on an island because he is saying, Rob
that the Bears.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Should keep justin Field wow, and not draft Calabi.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So I said, well, you out on an island, you
gonna He said, I'll convince you when I come on
the show.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So well, I think he's on Gilligan's island. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, he might be. He might be with that one,
but we'll see. We'll let him explain himself and see
what he's talking about Rob let's go to college football
and Nick Saban, who we know just retired.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And what do we say, I don't like what's going
on here?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah? No, he I mean he obviously he had accomplished
about everything he wanted to. But yeah, I think and Rob,
we just saw. Was it a coach from USC who
I think U c l A. U c l A
turned down an offensive coordinator job in college to go
(33:18):
be a running backs coach.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Oh, you're talking about but there was a coach recently
who turned down.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
An OC job in college to go be just a
running backs coach with Jim Harbaugh with the Chargers. And
a lot of these guys Rob are talking about how
they just don't like the new landscape of.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
College foot Kelly right when u c l A. Yeah,
Chip chips coaching job, right to just be an assistant
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
But they're complaining they don't like the new landscape, the
NIL to wild West, the transfer portal and all that.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Here's what Satan said.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
He said a lot, but I'll just read this one
quote and then we want to hear what you think
about this, Rob. He says, if my voice can bring
about some meaningful change, I want to help any way
I can because I love the players and I love
college football. What we have now is not college football,
not college football as we know it. You hear somebody
(34:18):
use the word student athlete. That doesn't exist. So he
says a little more, but what are your thoughts on
this rib?
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I think Nick Saban is the biggest hypocrite going because
it hasn't been college football, Chris, in a long time.
With all the money that the schools make off of it,
and the travel and all the other stuff they ask
the kids to do.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
It's a full.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Time job playing major college football. You can say whatever
you want. They haven't been student athletes in a long time.
Chris and Nick Saban never turned down the money and said,
you know what, I want to play. What's the top
scale for a professor at the university, Chris, that's what
he should be making, right, the top scale. He's a
Harvard prof This guy killed me with that. It's it's
(35:03):
it's hypocrisy. What he doesn't like, Chris is simple. He
what he didn't like and why he wanted to quit
is he doesn't have those scholarships in that control in
their back pocket. The college coaches could walk out on
the kids on the drop of a dime, Chris, right
before the Bowl game, right because they got a new job.
(35:23):
And now the kids could walk out when they're mistreated,
or they're not being played, or or their futures aren't
in play.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Chris. I don't, I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
And you know what, Yes, it is the wild wild
West when they when the people left the East coast
and went out to west Chris and covered wagons to
try to settle new worlds.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
It was the wild West and you had to figure
it out. Guess what.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It became a piece of the United States, and and
everything else worked out in time.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Nothing that's going up. You're changing the system.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
You think it's supposed to be all buttoned up Chris,
in a year or two. It can't be buttoned up
in a year or two. It will work itself out.
It always does. This is new for everybody, but to
stimey the kids and try to go back to where
I'm sorry the Toothpas is out of the two.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
And he's saying now he maybe's just saying this, but
he did say he don't he don't mind the players
getting paid.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
He just thinks the way it's being done is off.
But go ahead.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I'm yeah, I'm just I can't get with it, Chris.
Those kids were taking advantage of for a long time.
We live in a free market system and the same thing.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
What is the name of the of the video video
game company?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
E A is EA Sports A Sports? Chris? You see
what they offering the kids for the video game? Likeness?
Did you see that?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Now?
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Know what?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Six hundred dollars, Chris and a free game?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Now, yeah, that's what That's what the offer is for
them to sign up six hundred dollars athletes.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yes, college football.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
What do they think? Why do they think they gonna
get players with that? Is gonna get so much more money.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Else but six hundred Like, think about how many millions
they make, Chris, And they want the kids to sign
over their rights for six hundred dollars in a game.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
No, Look, we all know that college football has been
pro football for a long time, a long time, all right.
There's no ifs, hands or butts about it. And so
we both have been on the record as saying the
players should get paid. So I I And if Saban
(37:42):
wants to turn that clock back, then he's sorely mistaken,
but I'm not sure that's what he wants. But they
do need to fix the way it's done because Rob,
it's like we talked about it. With basketball, we don't
know there's no continuity from year to year. We don't
know what players are playing, we don't know what teams,
(38:03):
who their top players are from year to year. So
now college basketball has really declined in popularity and all
people really care about is the March madness.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
And that's just because of the gambling.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
And so if football continues where guys are transferring all
the time and all of that stuff, then it could
see a decline. So I do think they need to
fix it. But they just got to find the right way.
And look, part of the problem, Rob, is that the
NCUBA has been so stingy and greedy because the nc DOUBLEA.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Rob didn't fix it. They're not giving up any money.
They're not giving the kids money. This is what I'm
trying to say. It's like all guys refuse to cut
the players in. They're the product. You won't even cut
them in.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Remember a few years ago when the players from Northwestern
tried to life if they had done something like that
or made a compromise in the NCAA played ball, then
you wouldn't have the quote unquote wild Wild West right
now because right because.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
They wouldn't play ball.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Now you got the nil deals and it's every man
for himself and these corporations and obviously you have you know, collectives.
That's the schools trying to, you know, make sure they
can still get the best kids.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
But they need to figure something out, rob and I don't.
I don't have all the answers to it.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I like that the kids can get paid, but I
do think and you need the kids should have some
form of freedom because they can they decide to go
to a college based on the head coach in many
cases and then he can leave and now they're stuck.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
So but they need to get some of that under control.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
But really the pay I don't so if it's you
know I've talked about, I think eventually it's heading to
where they have it's more like an NFL system, and
they've got whether it's two big conferences and then divisions
within those like the NFL has or four conferences, and
then a playoff system. Right we know we're going to
(40:18):
twelve teams. There was talk now about fourteen teams. Who
has fourteen teams the NFL, you know what I mean,
Like you have your top fifty sixty schools whatever, the
realistic number of those that have a chance to win.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
It, or at least you know, are Power five teams
and the top.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Teams in the country, those fifty or sixty are at
the top level, and they're divided into conferences and then
a certain number make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
That's how it should be done. And then Rob, do
they you know, do they?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
It would take an independent You would need an independent committee,
Rob to be a part of this, because I wouldn't
trust the NCAA, you know, I would not trust them
to handle the money and divvy out what they really.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
With you, I'm with you, because there'll be some monkey business.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Absolutely, I'm sorry. The challenge is this.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Let's say that that happened, there was an independent committee
and all the money that you know it can it's
given to the nc double A or the schools or
whatever this committee and then divvied out fairly among the
top players and the top.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Schools and all of that.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Rob, you and I know this.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
They're probably still would be the boosters coming along from
Alabama or LSU or whatever school they're trying to get
the kids to that would give them a little more
am I right?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Right, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
So don't just jump on the kids when it's these
adults doing a lot of the dirty work.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
So I'm with you, and their history, Chris, is not
a good one for us to believe that there would
be real change.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Why would we believe that?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:12):
And again I think it boils down to if they
were above board and really want to be fair with
the kids, then they wouldn't have this wild wild West
situation that they have now. And maybe this will wake
them up and they will be fair. But until then,
it's gonna be. It might get chaotic. It already is
(42:32):
to some degree, all right, eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox. What are your thoughts some coaches leaving college
football because they say it's too crazy out there? How
do you get it under control? Or does it even
need to be brought under control? What are your thoughts
on NIL the portal and what it's doing to college football?
Speaker 3 (42:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:48):
Detroit and.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I'm gonna start a radio station Chris called sports Wrap Radio.
And the best part, if all go well, the odd
couple will be on in Detroit. What's on that station
every night seven to ten pm?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Easter.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
That is awesome and that is awesome. Now when does
it start?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
So mid May and this will be Chris, we believe,
the first all black sports talk radio station in the country.
And very excited about it.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Man. That's a great achievement.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Really really is.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
And the partners needed to get a lot of guys
some opportunities. That's what it is, Chris, and you know
that I'm all about that, and we want some fresh
new voices, develop some new people. So when openings are around,
people can't say, oh, there are no black guys doing
sports talk.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
There'll be plenty of guys to choose from.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
So it's just a start, and we hope to long
term Chris become a sports network and be in the
top twenty twenty five black markets in the United States.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So there it is.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Fox Sports Radio is going to be a part of
it because we're hoping to have the Odd Couple, We're
hoping to have Martin and VJ, and we're hoping to
have up on Game On on the station as well.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Chris, right right, right, Well that's great man, Congratulations, I'm
excited about that too, Thank you. We're on in Detroit obviously,
but no, no, we're not.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
We're not on Detroit.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
We were back on and then the station of something
changed to Conservative talk something.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
They not getting us in Moti now you know that, right,
So that's why it'll be great.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
We'll be on, you know, on our regular slot in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Absolutely absolutely.
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All right, Well, let's introduce the Eye Couple crew and
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So you know, dj Alex tight shit is where I'm
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Speaker 3 (04:03):
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Speaker 1 (04:04):
So get ready for some old school funk on this
funky flashback Friday. And Rob speaking of old school, there
is nothing old school about Victor wim Banyama, and we
are going to speak about him.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Because they faced the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Wym Banyama in his San Antonio Spurs face the Lakers
tonight and Lebron James is playing. So you know, we
were right about I thought Lebron would I didn't know,
but I thought it's a good chance he plays tonight.
And you know, sat out last night against Golden State,
(04:43):
and I figured he wouldn't play both nights of a
back to back.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
They chose that when my presumptions, because he gave him
an extra day arrest shoes. Yeah, they lost the Golden Down.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Now they may have lost with him, but Golden State
beat him in a big game.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Remember are close games and these teams are all tight
in the Western Conference. And with that win, of course,
Golden State gained the game on the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Now they're just a half game back.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It's still a lot a lot to go. But I
was surprised last night. You remember that was my best
bet taking the Warriors because it was only minus five
and a half. You remember I said, even with all Lebron,
I thought that was like five and a half. They
won by what eighteen at one bet?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
They they I mean the Lakers threw in the tower
at about seven eight minutes left, six seven minutes left,
something like that. So yeah, Lebron and Wimby will be
facing off tonight, and Robbie he's got a.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Song for Wimby.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Everyone knows it's Wimby. Boom boom, boom boom.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I hope, y'all, I hope you ain't bringing that to Detroit.
They'll be like, is this a country western.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Station or is this a hip hop station? Na, But
it's a good time to weigh in on Wimby.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
We know he's the probably the most touted prospect since
Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And when you look at the sheer, you know, praise
of him.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And I mean, rob I don't nobody was as touted
as Lebron because Lebron was here in America and we
saw Lebron.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
As a high school player and we his.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Games were even on TV at times, so he got
more you know, publicity and stuff than Wimby.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But as far as like what people were saying.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
About Winbin Yama, I don't know if there's been anybody
since like Kareem Abdul Jabbar Luel Cinder at that time
who's really had more praise. I mean, people saying he
could be the gold and you know, he is just
some unlike anything we've ever seen. So I think it's
a good time, after fifty games in his rookie year
to kind of take an assessment of him and see
(06:56):
where we think he's at. Let me give you his
status quickly, and then a quote Kevin Durant when Ben
Yama rob he's averaging twenty points, twenty point five points,
he's averaging ten point one rebounds, so twenty and ten,
and he's averaging a league high three point two block shots.
(07:17):
He's only playing twenty eight minutes a game. Now, you know,
he had the ankle injury, so he's still on like
a minute's restriction. I think he's frustrated and wants to
play more. But and if he's injured, fine, I like
to see him play more. I'm frustrated too.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, the issue, right, But I look forward and I
hope this is not just low management by the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
This guy next year, he's shown rob because you know,
we talk all the time with ex athletes carry kittles
and the like about how, you know, guarding out on
the floor on the perimeter now for big guys especially
is more taxing, more chances for injury.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
He he gets out there on the perimeter and guards.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Chris, did you see that? Like I thought? And he
got up and kept going.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
He turned it, but yeah, yeah, I mean that happens,
and yeah he rob he.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean, we've seen big.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Guys and understandably so people were concerned, like is he
going to be able to stay healthy because we know
the Sean Bradley's, the Greg Odins and you know yao
means and so many guys who are incredibly tall who
haven't been able to stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
But he has not really appeared any different than any.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Other player out there as far as the risks and
how taxing you know, the perimeter play is for him
and stuff. So it looks like that won't be a problem.
Let's certainly hope. So K yeah, yeah, I I I
have seen nothing.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
There eleven and forty five, one of the worst records.
I think it's the third worst record yea third worst
record in the league, worse than the West. But I
tell you what, individually, I've seen nothing to make me think, oh,
he's not as good as advertised, or he won't be
(09:13):
as good as the projections. I think this guy and
I actually feel like next year he's gonna take a
huge jump and probably be like a top ten player
next year. I think it's phenomenal and I see nothing
not to like about him.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I'm disappointed in how bad the team is, and I'm
not saying that's all on him, Chris, but he's a
generational talent. You have to at that age and the
numbers you're putting up in a limited amount of time
you're playing, you would think you'd have just a little
bit more impact on the game. And there were just
too many for me. They lost eighteen in a row,
(09:51):
and I'm not Chris. Show me a spot where Kareem
abdul Jabar lost eighteen in a row at any level,
Where Michael Jordan lost eighteen in a row at any level. Well,
Lebron James lost eighteen in a row at any level.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I can't imagine of the all time greats anybody losing
at that clip. That's the only part where I question anything.
How I'm not saying you gonna. I'm not saying you
want to win, make the playoffs, so play five hundred, Chris,
I'm not saying that. But lose eighteen in a row
(10:29):
and you're that talented, that's shocking to me.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, to me, they have no point guard. So number one,
they don't have a point guard. And if you watch
them early in the season, I was pulling my hair out,
like get the ball to winby Like they weren't even
looking for him anymore than anybody else, Zach Collins or
whoever it was out there. And so I think one,
(10:53):
not having a point guard, they don't have very good
perimeter shooting, so all of that a lot as bad spacing.
They're not getting him him the ball where he should
get it. So I think those are reasons. But also Rob,
you you mentioned impact he has impact the Spurs, and
(11:14):
I tell you he's only playing like twenty eight minutes
a night. The Spurs defensive rating Rob with win Benyamo
on the court is one twelve point six that but
won't mean much to people, But that would rank when
he's on the court, that would rank seventh in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Like they would have the seventh best defense in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
When he's off the court, their defensive rating jumps to
one nineteen point nine, that would be twenty eighth in
the league. And so that's impact. I mean, it's just
when he's not out there, obviously the defense is horrific
and so and just in general, I don't typically blame rookies.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
For not winning.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I don't expect them to win because with Ron didn't
make the playoffs his first two years. You know, Bird
played great and won, but he went to a team
that had even though they didn't win a lot of
games before that, they had a bunch of Hall of Fame.
They were older, they were bad, they were twenty seven
twenty nine games.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I think it's here before he got there.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Sixty one. But Bird was also a grown man when
he entered the league.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Burt was like twenty two, you know when he when
he got into the league. So I just think Rob, like,
when you look at this guy, he can do everything.
He can handle the ball, He's Nutmegan people, he can
pass one of the big keys. They moved him to
center and bench Collins, who was starting that center next
to him. But Collins couldn't shoot, couldn't spread the floor,
(12:46):
so now there's more room for him to work. He's
played much better since they moved them the center. I
assume they're gonna get a point guard who can get
him the ball in the right spots over the summer,
get some shooting around him, and as he just get stronger,
whether he fills out that body or not, we'll see.
But as he gets stronger, I mean his shot blocking,
(13:09):
his coverage on the perimeter, his passing. He's tough down
low as far as scoring the basketball, obviously with his size,
but he could shoot it too. Like the dude man,
I think he's as good as advertised. Here's what Kevin
Durant said about him.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
This was during the All Star break, and Durant was
a guy he looked up to growing up and you know,
wanted to play like him. Durant said this, he can
achieve anything he wants in this game. He's only getting
(13:51):
more comfortable as time goes on. Luckily, I'm on my
way out, so I won't have to deal with it
too much. But yeah, Rob, I think I think the
dude is the truth, and I'm excited about the future.
I actually think it's gonna be a huge jump next year.
(14:12):
He'll know what to expect now, and I think the
Spurs will do a better job building around him, and
I expect him to really take off next year. But
let's start out to listeners eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox eight seven, seven, nine nine six sixty three
sixty nine fifty games in. What are your thoughts on
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Speaker 1 (16:11):
We're live from the tirerag dot com studios on a
Funky Flashback Friday. Rob Alex and I are having an
interesting conversation during the break, and I was talking to
him about, like, you know, he's a DJ. I mean,
we don't just say that he knows his music, you know,
that's not just a little stick or anything. And I
(16:34):
was talking to him about some hip hop samples, like
original hip hop samples, and if you ever just listen
to the original songs sometimes it's amazing. And so we
might do he might do a hip hop samples one
day for Funky Flashback Friday, which I think would be tight.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
So but let's go to the NBA.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Rob. We got Funky Cold Ark Medena coming looking at
the bottom of the hour, so we'll obviously talk NBA
with him.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
But Rob, I was just looking at the NBA MVP odds.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And you know, we're starting to get toward that time
where you have.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
To really start looking at.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Right, yeah, next week, which I can't.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Believe, you know, because All Star Game isn't the midway point, No,
it's way.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Past that.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
So right now, Rob, he was my preseason pick.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I don't remember I think he might have been yours too,
But Nicola jokicch is the leader at minus one forty,
so he's a sizable leader right now. Shae Gilges Alexander,
Oklahoma City's tremendous point guard, is second, Yannis is third,
Luka Doncic is fourth, and I do think like Luka,
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Rob their surgeon.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
They won seven straight. If they keep playing well.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And winning, if he can get in like the top certainly,
if you can get in the top four, or if
they can finish ahead of Denver record wise, I think
he'd have a great shot at winning it. And then
fifth is Jason Tatum. But the interesting thing here, Rob,
and you and I have kind of touched on this
here and there. We've thrown it out and we've done
(18:18):
even we've gone a little deeper on it. But those
perceived perceptible listeners may have already picked it up. But
the top four MVP candidates, Rob are all international players.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Jo Kics from Serbia, Shae from Canada, Joannis from Nigeria.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
And Canada is a foreign country.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Okay, they want to claim the Canadian players, but Christ,
it's a foreign country.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I know.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Living in Detroit, Windsor, Canada, Christians, you five minutes away
exactly my apartment I had downtown when I first moved
to Detroit. So oversaw, Chris of the Windsor. Uh, you
can look right into Windsor from my apartment. I mean,
that's how close Detroit.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Is, is it?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
I mean you said five minutes, I mean like like
fifteen minutes through the tunnel. Fifteen minutes of tunnel. Okay,
my brother lives on the water, he lives he lived
in the rich part of Yeah, that's beautiful area. But
you can see it across right. No, no, no, Chris,
it's literally like if you live downtown where I lived,
(19:36):
it's literally fifteen minutes from my apartment through the tunnel
across to.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Windsor, Canada. Like that's how close it is. It's that close.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's like you said, it is close.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
But it is a foreign country.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So you know, we got Luca to round it out,
righte from Slovenia. Right what and Rob when we look.
Now you got Jason Tatum, he's fifth and he's young. Thankfully,
we got Anthony Edwards, he's young. Anthony Edwards, we're gonna
talk about him a little later. That boy is just bad.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
We were we were all in his camp year.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
We were right, go back, go back, got against uh LaMelo,
who is good. He just can't stay healthy. But Chris
and not winning that year, we thought he should have been.
And now look at that kid. Yeah he he he
could be next. And we're gonna get into that. But
so those guys are, it's nice to see them. You
got John Moray, he gets his act, you know, stuff
(20:35):
straightened out, you know, I hope.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
So he's too young to good.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
So there are and Zion is starting there, starting to win,
and Zion's playing well. So there are some American players
coming up, Rob, But I want to know and look,
some people may say this, and we're gonna open it
up to the callers, Rob, but some people.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
May be like, look, I mean, we're we're lamenting.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
The demise, if you will, of the American you know,
superstars and the fact that the best players in the
world are no longer from America.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
We still, I think, have the best country.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You don't have one country that's gonna beat our best guys,
but that might be coming because you know, we gotta
send the big boys over there now Lebron and Steph
and Durant, but they gonna be retiring pretty soon, so
we'll see about that. But Rob, some people might just say, look,
it's the world. It's the world. Of course, the world
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is going to produce better players than just one country
called America, even though it's been our sport. They've been
playing basketball long enough in these other places that maybe
some people might just say that, right, And that might
be true. Maybe that's true. I don't know, you know,
because you're talking about Joki Serbia.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Okay, who else they got from Serbia?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I know they got a few guys, but yeah, Lucas.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
It's not like it's forty guys coming in. That's a
big difference between that, right, So.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
We get that.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
But I do think Rob that I think we need
to take a long, hard look in the mirror at
how we're developing players, and I think that there are
some things that could be changed. I think in overseas,
I think that their young players are coming up in
(22:30):
a lot more humble circumstances. I don't mean necessarily socioeconomic,
although that could be a factor too, but I mean
when they're fifteen and they're the best player in their
country at that age, you know, best fifteen year old
in their country, they're playing on a team with grown
men and not getting much playing time, practicing every day
(22:52):
and getting beat up and.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Schooled by adults.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So then as they age and get feeling into their
body eighteen nineteen, now they're the man.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
They're ready to ball, whereas our fifteen year olds.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Rob, if you that nice at fifteen in America, you
got millions of social media followers, and I mean millions
right right, hundreds of thollions, thousands for some but millions
for others. You might have it in il you you
know you you're getting I mean people treating you like
a celebrity in a superstar And obviously if you got
(23:27):
that many followers, you're getting.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Paid for that.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
And I just and Rob, to top it off, AAU,
you're playing games.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
We've heard it time and time again. They might AA
you you might play.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Over the weekend, yes, and the other In other countries,
they are drilling, they're running through drills, they're practicing, and
our guys are just playing a lot of games and
not developing that those skills. You know, they're skilled obviously
in ball handling and shooting and stuff. But not drilling
nearly as much as they do overseas. So I think
those are factors. But the thing is robbed. Outside of
(24:06):
the social media thing, which is a big thing, the
other things are fixable.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
You, Those are fixable.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I mean it might be tough because kids are used
to this stuff now, but I think those things are fixable.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
But where are you at on this robe?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Because clearly, I mean we we are not producing the
best players in the world anymore. And like I said,
the top four MVP candidates kind of spells that. And
if it was m B, if INNB wasn't hurt, rob
me be the top.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Five, Chris. I don't know if there is any turning back.
I gotta admit I think AAU basketball has ruined the
basketball that we play in this country. I'm just I
told you before I went to see uh not LaMelo
and his brother.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Oh yeah, remember I told you that Andel and Liangels.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I went to that game, and I remember here in
Los Angeles, Lonzo was you know, not longer, but the
other two, and I thought it was atrocious.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I thought it was cherry picking.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
They were known for. They literally cherry picked.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Cherry picked the whole game like because then I was like, no, wonder,
he's scoring sixty eight points or whatever it was. He
don't run back and he plays the whole game. The
coach can't say anything to him. You know what I mean,
Chris terrible. That's not gonna get you an MVP. Okay,
you'll get You'll get a lot of followers. You'll get
and I own money. People will go quick, You're not
(25:38):
going to get an MVP playing like that, and that's
what we have.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
People might think you're over exaggerating, you're not. They were known.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Christ call up videos of LaMelo and them in high school.
They literally wouldn't cross half court.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
For most of the game.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
They would just stay there and wait for you to
throw the ball at him like it was their birthright.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Throw me the ball.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Seriously, And I'm talking about first hand knowledge, Chris, I
went to the I'm not talking about what I saw.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
When someone told me, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I wanted to go see them play in person for
myself so I could talk about it.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
And I was stunned. And you look at LaMelo Rode.
The dude is incredibly skilled.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He is nice.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
LaMelo is nice, six seven point guard, handle, great passer
can shoot fairly.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Well and it's not rapped. This year's numbers are twenty four,
eight and five.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Like he's bad, but I think he doesn't know how
to play like winning team basketball.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
He's just a show.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
He's just exciting, But when it comes down to winning
team basketball, I.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Don't think he has a clue on that. And that's
what we're.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Creating, and that and that, that is what you're creating.
And those are the guys who people are going gaga over, Chris.
But then when you get into these situations about winning
basketball games and doing all the other stuff, it doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And that's why.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Uh and and you're right, it's not like a million
guys are coming from foreign countries, but the ones who
are coming are awful good, are awful skilled, know how
to play basketball. And for for the NBA to be
in this situation is shocking. Seriously, Chris, like not not
that fourign born players can't win an MVP. Every so
(27:36):
often on mix in it says like total dominance. And
you just said it. If MB wasn't hurt, it would
be five five out of and that that makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yep, no, right that that like five out the tie
out of five, there's nobody else. And Rob, it's one
hundred and twenty five international players in the league today.
That's twenty of the league. I mean that that's a lot,
and that's look, it's the best players. But I wonder
(28:08):
is that gonna keep growing? Is that gonna keep growing?
It's good question that you know, because we've talked about it,
like yesterday we talked about the demise of the college
game among men. I don't know who among the of
those college players is gonna be in the NBA. I
know there's probably gonna be a lot of draft picks
(28:29):
from overseas, right, and then we got some of the
kids from you know, the minor leagues. But yeah, it
doesn't You might be right, I'm I'm I gotta be honest.
There is a bit of wishful thinking in what I'm saying,
because you wouldn't think it's gonna turn around.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I don't, because I just I believe I would that
someone's gonna be uh, Tim Duncan the big fundamentals, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's some playing like that Chris.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
That doesn't get you any juice, that doesn't get you
any followers.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It just doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I mean, and we talked about this when we talked
about international playing America in the All Star Game. I mean,
you wonder if will the fact that the international players
are playing.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
So well, maybe does that drive does that like a
fire among some of our American players.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
That's what you will hope too, that they say, hold up,
this is supposed to be our game, right and we're
not even the best players in basketball anymore. Cause I'm
telling you, Rob this to me, and then we'll go
to the listeners after.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
You can comment quick if you want. This is the
last these upcoming Olympics.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
This will be the last time we can say all right,
enough enough, we about to send the.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Big boys to put y'all in y'all place.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
This will be hit Rob after this.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
You're right, and the United States might not see a
gold medal for years to come.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
No, that's real, that's real. All right A seven seven
ninety nine on Fox. You'll turn the way in what
do we do?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Can we do anything to have America start producing the
best basketball players in the world again? And look, it's
no problem if we don't, because we love watching Luka
and Jokic and all that. But I'm just saying it
is supposed to be our game. What can we do
to start producing the best players in the world again?
(30:30):
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get off of the air. Rob. At the bottom of
the hour, we got a good friend, Sean King, former
NFL quarterback, will join the show and look he has
been a guy Rob, that's been incredibly accurate when talking
about a lot of quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Oh no, definitely. I saw Sean.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
He had an event Chris during the Super Bowl. So
I spent some time. Yeah yeah, yeah, so Sean, And
he has a knock for it. He knows he was
a quarterback and yeah, he owes it. And they were
close to getting the Super Bowl. He was a quarterback
with Tony Dungee's team.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
First. They just couldn't they just couldn't get over the hump.
They had a great team. That's a team that wound
up winning the super Bowl right right after that. But
he was a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
But he Rob, he's out on it. I told him
to when I asked him to come on the show.
He's out on an island because he is saying, Rob
that the Bears.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Should keep justin Field wow, and not draft Calabi.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So I said, well, you out on an island, you
gonna He said, I'll convince you when I come on
the show.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
So well, I think he's on Gilligan's island. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, he might be. He might be with that one,
but we'll see. We'll let him explain himself and see
what he's talking about Rob let's go to college football
and Nick Saban, who we know just retired.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And what do we say, I don't like what's going
on here?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah? No, he I mean he obviously he had accomplished
about everything he wanted to. But yeah, I think and Rob,
we just saw. Was it a coach from USC who
I think U c l A. U c l A
turned down an offensive coordinator job in college to go
(33:18):
be a running backs coach.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Oh, you're talking about but there was a coach recently
who turned down.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
An OC job in college to go be just a
running backs coach with Jim Harbaugh with the Chargers. And
a lot of these guys Rob are talking about how
they just don't like the new landscape of.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
College foot Kelly right when u c l A. Yeah,
Chip chips coaching job, right to just be an assistant
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
But they're complaining they don't like the new landscape, the
NIL to wild West, the transfer portal and all that.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Here's what Satan said.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
He said a lot, but I'll just read this one
quote and then we want to hear what you think
about this, Rob. He says, if my voice can bring
about some meaningful change, I want to help any way
I can because I love the players and I love
college football. What we have now is not college football,
not college football as we know it. You hear somebody
(34:18):
use the word student athlete. That doesn't exist. So he
says a little more, but what are your thoughts on
this rib?
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I think Nick Saban is the biggest hypocrite going because
it hasn't been college football, Chris, in a long time.
With all the money that the schools make off of it,
and the travel and all the other stuff they ask
the kids to do.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
It's a full.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Time job playing major college football. You can say whatever
you want. They haven't been student athletes in a long time.
Chris and Nick Saban never turned down the money and said,
you know what, I want to play. What's the top
scale for a professor at the university, Chris, that's what
he should be making, right, the top scale. He's a
Harvard prof This guy killed me with that. It's it's
(35:03):
it's hypocrisy. What he doesn't like, Chris is simple. He
what he didn't like and why he wanted to quit
is he doesn't have those scholarships in that control in
their back pocket. The college coaches could walk out on
the kids on the drop of a dime, Chris, right
before the Bowl game, right because they got a new job.
(35:23):
And now the kids could walk out when they're mistreated,
or they're not being played, or or their futures aren't
in play.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Chris. I don't, I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
And you know what, Yes, it is the wild wild
West when they when the people left the East coast
and went out to west Chris and covered wagons to
try to settle new worlds.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
It was the wild West and you had to figure
it out. Guess what.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
It became a piece of the United States, and and
everything else worked out in time.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Nothing that's going up. You're changing the system.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
You think it's supposed to be all buttoned up Chris,
in a year or two. It can't be buttoned up
in a year or two. It will work itself out.
It always does. This is new for everybody, but to
stimey the kids and try to go back to where
I'm sorry the Toothpas is out of the two.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
And he's saying now he maybe's just saying this, but
he did say he don't he don't mind the players
getting paid.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
He just thinks the way it's being done is off.
But go ahead.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I'm yeah, I'm just I can't get with it, Chris.
Those kids were taking advantage of for a long time.
We live in a free market system and the same thing.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
What is the name of the of the video video
game company?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
E A is EA Sports A Sports? Chris? You see
what they offering the kids for the video game? Likeness?
Did you see that?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Now?
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Know what?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Six hundred dollars, Chris and a free game?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Now, yeah, that's what That's what the offer is for
them to sign up six hundred dollars athletes.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yes, college football.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
What do they think? Why do they think they gonna
get players with that? Is gonna get so much more money.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Else but six hundred Like, think about how many millions
they make, Chris, And they want the kids to sign
over their rights for six hundred dollars in a game.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
No, Look, we all know that college football has been
pro football for a long time, a long time, all right.
There's no ifs, hands or butts about it. And so
we both have been on the record as saying the
players should get paid. So I I And if Saban
(37:42):
wants to turn that clock back, then he's sorely mistaken,
but I'm not sure that's what he wants. But they
do need to fix the way it's done because Rob,
it's like we talked about it. With basketball, we don't
know there's no continuity from year to year. We don't
know what players are playing, we don't know what teams,
(38:03):
who their top players are from year to year. So
now college basketball has really declined in popularity and all
people really care about is the March madness.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
And that's just because of the gambling.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
And so if football continues where guys are transferring all
the time and all of that stuff, then it could
see a decline. So I do think they need to
fix it. But they just got to find the right way.
And look, part of the problem, Rob, is that the
NCUBA has been so stingy and greedy because the nc DOUBLEA.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Rob didn't fix it. They're not giving up any money.
They're not giving the kids money. This is what I'm
trying to say. It's like all guys refuse to cut
the players in. They're the product. You won't even cut
them in.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Remember a few years ago when the players from Northwestern
tried to life if they had done something like that
or made a compromise in the NCAA played ball, then
you wouldn't have the quote unquote wild Wild West right
now because right because.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
They wouldn't play ball.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Now you got the nil deals and it's every man
for himself and these corporations and obviously you have you know, collectives.
That's the schools trying to, you know, make sure they
can still get the best kids.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
But they need to figure something out, rob and I don't.
I don't have all the answers to it.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I like that the kids can get paid, but I
do think and you need the kids should have some
form of freedom because they can they decide to go
to a college based on the head coach in many
cases and then he can leave and now they're stuck.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
So but they need to get some of that under control.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
But really the pay I don't so if it's you
know I've talked about, I think eventually it's heading to
where they have it's more like an NFL system, and
they've got whether it's two big conferences and then divisions
within those like the NFL has or four conferences, and
then a playoff system. Right we know we're going to
(40:18):
twelve teams. There was talk now about fourteen teams. Who
has fourteen teams the NFL, you know what I mean,
Like you have your top fifty sixty schools whatever, the
realistic number of those that have a chance to win.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
It, or at least you know, are Power five teams
and the top.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Teams in the country, those fifty or sixty are at
the top level, and they're divided into conferences and then
a certain number make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
That's how it should be done. And then Rob, do
they you know, do they?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
It would take an independent You would need an independent committee,
Rob to be a part of this, because I wouldn't
trust the NCAA, you know, I would not trust them
to handle the money and divvy out what they really.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
With you, I'm with you, because there'll be some monkey business.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Absolutely, I'm sorry. The challenge is this.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Let's say that that happened, there was an independent committee
and all the money that you know it can it's
given to the nc double A or the schools or
whatever this committee and then divvied out fairly among the
top players and the top.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Schools and all of that.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Rob, you and I know this.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
They're probably still would be the boosters coming along from
Alabama or LSU or whatever school they're trying to get
the kids to that would give them a little more
am I right?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Right, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
So don't just jump on the kids when it's these
adults doing a lot of the dirty work.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
So I'm with you, and their history, Chris, is not
a good one for us to believe that there would
be real change.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Why would we believe that?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:12):
And again I think it boils down to if they
were above board and really want to be fair with
the kids, then they wouldn't have this wild wild West
situation that they have now. And maybe this will wake
them up and they will be fair. But until then,
it's gonna be. It might get chaotic. It already is
(42:32):
to some degree, all right, eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox. What are your thoughts some coaches leaving college
football because they say it's too crazy out there? How
do you get it under control? Or does it even
need to be brought under control? What are your thoughts
on NIL the portal and what it's doing to college football?
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Your thoughts? Next? Christian rodeakable Fox Sports Radio,
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