March 14, 2024 • 43 mins
Rob Parker and TJ Houshmandzadeh talk Derrick Henry being the missing piece for the Ravens. Plus, Rob and TJ talk Nick Saban hating on the NIL and some NFL teams in major cap hell.
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Welcome in to a TV theme song Thursday here on
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a show we have for you today. So much to do,
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can read my own writing on our number two?
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Who do we have in our number two?
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I can't read it?
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Hold on, well, we got a big show.
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Let's let's get into TJ Houshmann Zada and welcome in
into the program.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
What's up, TJ? How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Man? Mister Parker? What's up? My guy? Always a good time.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You already know how we do.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Get ready to rock and roll, get a people a
good show. That that that's the plan.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Give them what they want. I should say that.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So I just said, uh, we got carry Kittles and
Deshaun Tait will do some college basketball with us as well.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So I did finally get it figured out.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
So TJ, life is good, you and the family all
enjoying this time of the year or what.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Man, this time of the year. For me, it's fun
on the field all day, rob literally on the field
all day with these young boys many to just trying
to make them better. But this week has been a
good week. We've had a ton of high profile college players,
high profile NFL players out there with us this week. Man,
(02:36):
it's been a good fun week.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, I know you love the coaching aspect would you
ever want to be a head coach in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I would like to coach in the National Football League.
I want, I've been. I actually had some offers the
last couple of years. Man, But I want to make
sure that my son is really coach the correct way.
He understands things before I start coaching, and because if
I if I leave my son, I just don't know
if he will be coached correctly. And if I what's
(03:06):
coming from me, He's going to understand the right he
gonna understand how the sitting zones, he's gonna understand how
his route ties into the quarterbacks, dropping things of that,
and they just listen minor things that I want to
make sure that my son understands before I before I
take that journey myself.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I hear you, how old is your son now?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Man? My son is ten long way before a.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Long way before you're getting up coaching John.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But I take him out with me. Man, I shouldn't
even say this, but I'm gonna say it. My son
missed like a day a week of school because I
bring him out to train with the guys. Just so
you know, don't listen to me. Watch the best guys
in the world. They listen to me, watch what they do,
mimic them. That's the best teacher you can.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Have, no doubt. And as long as he's getting his
work done in school and everything.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Then oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he know better than that.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I already know that. I know how you roll. So
doubt that. Yeah, no grades, no.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Football, ain't no dummies in his house.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
No doubt.
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Speaker 3 (04:36):
But let's start here, TJ.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Let's start with the Baltimore Ravens and Derrick Henry.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Who I love to pick up. I love everything about it.
He's a star.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
He's second in rushing in the NFL. It's not like
he's long in the tooth and he's going the other
way and he was bad last year. And you know
what I mean, you're hoping for a miracle and just
way that that Ravens team can play and run the football.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And Derek Henry, do we have sound or is just quote? Patrick?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I just got the quote, so we'll have here, But Patrick.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Go ahead, tell us what Derek Henry said to Whosh
and then I want to get your.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Thought for sure? For sure.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
So he had a press conference today and they actually
only three questions anyway, They actually kind of you know,
the biggest concern about his future. They're asking just our
his best days ahead of him. And you know, Dereck Henry,
you said, everybody tell them to keep watching all his doubters.
People are always going to have something to say, always
going to have opinions. I'm just ready to work, ready
to get things started and do my best to help
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this organization.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
There you go, TJ.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I love to move.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Where are you on Derek Henry and the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
For the Ravens, I'm with you. I love it. Also,
I don't like it for the Bengals. But Derrick Henry
had a really good year last year. He's never averaged
under four yards carry in his career. Ever, he average
four point two yards of carry last year. He didn't
get as many touches because they were losing the majority
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of their game, so that.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
When you're losing, you don't have time to run the ball. Okay,
the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Do you put Derrick Henry in that offense with Lamar
Jackson and the way they run the ball and the
way they scheme up things, that's gonna be a really
tough combo to stop. If you think about the playoff
game when they lost to the Kansas City Chiefs this.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Year, they didn't play their game. That's why went away
from the run exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Do you know what the running backs had six rushes
six carry in that game?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Right? If Derek Carry is a running back and you
think that's the case. No, So, just just the fact
that who he is, they won't abandon the run because
of who he is and what he's proven. And so
you may say, oh, he doesn't have it anymore, Oh
he's going down. He has yet to show that. So
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he has to show me that he slowed down before
I start to say him going to the Ravens is
not an asset. It's not it's not a good thing
for that organization. He's yet to slow down. You know
what I love had two and eighty carries, whereas you
go in twenty twenty two, he had about three hundred
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and fifty carries.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Wow, huge, big difference.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
What I love is the front office, Like like they
didn't go away from what they do well by getting
a player of his cap, you know what I mean,
Like you don't get him and not think you're going
to run the ball. When they ran the ball twenty
five times or more. I think they lost one game
all year, Like they run the football well? And who
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helped me explain or tell me how as a defending
as a defensive coordinator, how do you defend when you
have a guy like like to me, like how do
you game plan?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Do you put eight in a box? Like? How does this.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Work when you have two dynamic runners behind you know,
behind the center.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Anytime you play the Baltimore Ravens, you want to start,
you're getting off the bus, you get off the airplane.
We got to stop the run. You play to Baltimore,
we got to stop the run first and foremost. That's
always number one on the game plan is to stop
the run. It just got harder now. It just got
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hard with Lamar Jackson and there, it just got harder.
And I don't think people understand coaches like they're humans
when they know Derick Henry. You don't think Tom Munkin
knows that Derek Kerry is a running back. He will
not abandoned the run in the playoffs because Derrick Kearny
needs to get his touches the way he abandoned a
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run against the Chiefs. He won't do.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
That, which was crazy. They didn't lose that Gume by
three touchdown. They weren't that game the whole game they.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Were in, and you can say they were RPOs with
Derrick Henry. Lamar's gonna hand that off. If it's a
bunch are, Lamar's gonna hand it off of Like Derrick
Henry get his carries because of who he is and
what he's accomplished. So just being on the team, being
what he's accomplished in the National Football League, that's going
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to help the play calling, the coaches, the way they think,
the way they game plan. And so this division is
shaping up at least where we are today because we
have yet to play. We have yet to practice, no injuries.
This is why the NFL is the greatest game in
the world because it's year round. Like you see moves
like this, and you can't wait for September and here
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we are in March, and so we can talk about it,
talk about it, talk about it. But I believe Dereck
Henry has at least two really good years. These dudes
don't want to talk. You've seen Have you seen Derek
Henry in person? Rock?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yes, matter of fact that the Super Bowl in Miami,
have a picture with me and him and Chris, the
three of them.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Man, these dudes ain't trying to tackle Derrick Henry. No
that they not trying to tackle Dereck Heerry. You say
what you want to say. That is a big boy
coming downhill. You meant they ankle tackling, biting at his ankles.
You don't want to tackle that big old boy, especially
when it gets cold late in the game. This move
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for the Ravens is huge. Now the rest of the division,
they gonna have to get better. And you believe the
Steelers did with Russell Wilson. The Bengals for sure did.
If Joe Burrow can stay healthy, I mean, this division
is gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But I think the Browns are the team on the
outside looking at I do I think the Browns. If
I got to pick one of the teams not to
make the playoffs, I'm picking the Browns.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I mean, I can't. I can't. The Browns are so talented.
Jerry Judy is talented. You now you have Jerry Judy,
Amari Cooper, Elijah More on offense. If Dashaun Watson and
David and Joku who had a really good season last year,
Nick Chubb if he comes back from this injury, that
offense and we know their offensive line is good, it's
gonna be Can Deshaun Watson just play better football?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well, but we don't know that. And that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
The fact that's why wildcard we don't like.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
That's why they had a wildcard.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
To me, when you look at it, Pittsburgh with no
quarterback play whatsoever, won nine games, right, It made the
play with no quarterback play, right?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I mean, and then and then you look at the
other teams. Cincinnati, if Joe Burrow's healthy, He's on my list.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
To make the playoffs. If he's healthy.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Okay, the only thing that's going to derail them is
him not being healthy and not playing. And then the Ravens,
of course, they since Lamar showed up, they went like
seventy seventy five percent of their games, okay, and then
the deck Henry, you're telling me that they're not gonna
win seventy five percent of their games.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
The Ravens, they're just from top to bottom an organization
that they do things the right way. Very rarely do
the Baltimore Ravens sign guys the big free agent deals,
and when they do, the majority of the time, it
works the majority time. When they draft a guy in
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the first three the majority.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Right, No, they've had.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
A breaking deal. You look at Patrick Crean, he leaves
and goes to the Steelers. If they didn't have ropewand Smith,
Patrick Queen would have signed a second contract with the
Baltimore Ravens. They draft and developed so well, and that's
why you see the guys that they draft, they always
get a second deal. For the most part, guys that
are draft in the top three four rounds with the
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Baltimore Ravens they get second deals. They do a really
good job drafting, developing guys and then when they go
sign a free agent like a Derrick Henry, it pans out.
They sign a Steve Smith, it pans out. They sign
an A Kwan Boting, it works out. And so they
just do a really good job. I have nothing but
respect for those guys in Baltimore. They do a hell
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of a job. But this Derrick Henry signing, I'm a
fan of it. You're gonna have He's gonna have to
play bad for me to say, oh wow, this is shocking.
I expect him in the Baltimore Ravens to be better
than they ever have running the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
All right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight
seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. It's
real simple. Is Derrick Henry the missing piece that will
finally get the Ravens over the hump? Get Lamar to
the super Bowl, give the Ravens a chance to win
the super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Or no, you're not believing in the Derek Henry move
and you and you disagree with me and TJ.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
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Speaker 2 (16:54):
That goodmic, Like if he listening, I don't have Rod Parker, Honey,
I got a little bit more than that oil.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, you need more than that? All right, All good,
All right, TJ. Let's go here.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
College football, No surprise, Nick Saban retired. There's gonna be
a lot of other older coaches. I'm predicting that Tom
Mizzo is gonna step down eventually, uh in college basketball
at Michigan because these old time coaches don't like what's
going on. They don't like the compensation that these players
are getting. They don't like the idea that they don't
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have control over over them. Uh, from the standpoint with
the transfer portal, the n I L money, you know,
and all this other stuff. And now you know, Nick
Saban's making a tour going around Do we have sound Patrick?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
No?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Do not?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Okay, do you have?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, Nick Saban has been going around TJ.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Basically, you know, making making statements and ripping the sport
and how bad it is and that these kids are
I get it. He won seven championships, considered the greatest
college coach.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Of all of all time. But you know, uh, he's
he's he doesn't like the system. And this is my thing, TJ.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Everything evolves like when there's something new, right, it starts
out it's the wild, wild West, and then you kind
of figure it out, right, Like it's always like that
before you can see what it is exactly and how
it's gonna work, and how a system can be formed.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
The reason I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Again and one of his speak speaking points talking points
is about them coming up with some sort of system
to make it you know, unilateral for everyone, right, like
some sort of guidelines and rules.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Here's the problem I have.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Ay, the colleges aren't coming out of their pockets paying
the athletes, so they should have no say in how
the money's administered.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Number two, the players aren't at the bargaining table. They
don't have a union that represents the players as a whole.
So anything that's done is not gonna be in the
best entrance of the players.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
It will be in the best interest of the schools.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
See if you want to try to come up with
some idea about kids when transferring and all that kind
of stuff. Then the same rules have to apply to
coaches TJ who leave kids high and dry.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
They sit in their parents' living room.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Oh, I'm gonna make a man out of your kid,
and I'm gonna take care of him when he's at college,
and this, that and the other thing.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They get offered a big job for money, and guess
what they do, TJ.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
They bounce on the kids right whenever they want. I'm
against this in every step of the way. The old
time guys like Nick Saban, if you don't like what's happening,
get out like he did.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
He retired, get out.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Now he's on a tour going around trying to get
other things and changes and have other people agree with
him and follow what he wants done.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
In college football. You quit, you were tired.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I don't understand why people would listen to Nick Saban
at this point and determine what's right for the kids,
because the college has done wrong by the kids forever.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
This is like the best thing that ever happened to
college athletes.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Rob This is really crazy that we're agreeing on a
lot of stuff today because we normally don't agree. We don't,
but we are agreeing. You are on your stuff today.
Come on, man, Miike, this what bothers me. Nick Saban
made over one hundred and fifty million dollars coaching amateur sports.
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In fifty million dollars coaching, and the majority of his
players came from low income neighborhoods and families. But you
have a problem now that the player has a little
more control than you would like him to have, meaning
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if he doesn't like what's going on, he's gonna transfer
or I'm gonna transfer to the school that gives me
the most money, the same way that you did, the
same way you left Michigan State to LSU, an LSU
to the Miami Dolphins, and then Miami Dolphins to ALBI.
The same way you put yourself in a better situation.
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That's what these kids are trying to do. And it's
so hypocritical that you've made millions upon millions of dollars
on the backs of these kids, because no disrespect. You
go to I'm not even gonna name, just go to
go to a small school. If you're gonna win these
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national championship, go to a small school and see if
you can win these You won because of the players
you were getting. Are you a great coach? Yeah? But
they are you a great coach to where you can
go to these one of these non Power five schools
winning enough national championship? Absolutely not. And so I don't
like that when these coaches realize how he did. Ah,
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I'm not gonna be able to compete now because our
boosters aren't gonna put the money up like the A
and M boosters or the Texas boosters. You put the
money up. You made over one hundred and fifty million.
You put it up. You for sure have enough when
you die. They not putting all your money in your casket.
So now you put some of the money up. Then
(22:46):
you started in it. You do it. You don't want
to do that though.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
You don't never that'll never happen in.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
That coach for one million, coach for one million and
a million dollar salary that you had ten million will
go into the nil fund for the players. You could
sign quite a few players if you chose to do that,
but you're not. And so that's the problem that I
have with it is now that the players can benefit
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from themselves, which should have always been the case. What's
the problem. Why don't you like it? I'm with you,
it's me.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
And to all the money he made off the back
of these players and many TJ got nothing. You remember
when they should throw kids out of college for getting
a free pizza and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You remember that. I mean, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Peter Word got robbed at the Heisman Trophy because he
got some free clothes. Peter Worrick is one of the
top two college football players that I've ever seen in
my life. Reggie Bush won a Heisman Trophy, but he
doesn't have a Heisman Trophy because he took a little
a few little dollars, Like are you serious? Right? But
you got all these people making millions of dollars, and
(24:00):
now that the players are making thousands, it's a problem.
Really crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
It is crazy, And.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I hope the players don't give in and don't give
hoodwinked in the believing that any system that they want
to put together. That's why college players they need to unionize.
I've said this before. They need to unionize. That's the
only way they can get a fair TJ collective bargain
and agreement because you need somebody that represents them as
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a whole, not individuals. If you do it individually, it'll
never work. It's got to be you represent everyone in
college football and give them the opportunity to earn money.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
For years, they.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Were selling guys basketball jerseys and football jerseys for making
money in the gift shop and the kids got nothing.
And then they try to say, oh that ain't you
Well what number is that? Who is number thirty running back?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You know what I mean? Who is that? Just like
the video game? Did you see what they offered the kids?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It opted, They're gonna spend that money in two days,
three days?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Six hundred dollars and a free game?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Are you kidding me? Millions off of that?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
And and and people who was it?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
The manningson art right, Yeah, he didn't take it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
He didn't take it.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And these other kids who were taking it and then
going on their Instagram and advertising for the company as well.
It is mind boggling because their kids and they don't
even know better. You're signing away to a company that's
gonna make millions off of using your likeness, and they
give you a cup of coffee in a suite roll.
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That's what six hundred dollars, and that game is in
the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I just what they had an opportunity, the NCAA had
an opportunity to get out ahead of this. They chose
not to.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Put they didn't want to pay. They could have done
the money right.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
They had an opportunity and they chose not to. And
so now that it's the way that it is. Oh,
now they want to go to Congress, they want help.
You had an opportunity to handle the situation and you
chose not to. It should have always been like this.
If a coach can leave, why can a player. If
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a coach can get paid, why can a player? For
the longest, all the education is enough, it really, but
my coaches are making millions million, offensive coordinator making millions, now,
defensive coordinator making millions. Head coach for making millions upon millions.
The rest of the position coaches are making few three, four, five, six,
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seven hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Anybody that listens to what we're saying and they don't agree,
it's crazy. You go, how about this? You go work
for free in because that's what you want to That's
basically what you're saying you want the players to do
right that you go work for free, you go work
for free. Nope, we're not doing that. Nobody's gonna work
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for free. But you want the players to believe getting
the education, their powership.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Is their payment.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right, That's enough.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
That's what they want you to believe. It's not.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That's not the case. Not the hours that you put in.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
And the money being made. The money being made.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Look at the greedy they're about to go to fourteen
teams in the college football playoff. Why money, they're making millions,
printing money?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
All right, we want to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. I'm playing simple.
TJ and I are both in lockstep. Nick Saban is
a hypocrite. Anybody who's against the nil I'm talking about
who's in the in the in the business, coaches and
whatnot who make millions and are against the kids getting
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NIOW money or being able to track their hypocrites because
they've done the same exact thing. Why is it a
double standard? If you disagree, we want to hear from you.
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Please join us
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Bussard Stick and Stay.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Like the Nil and Nick Saban in the US of A.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
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Speaker 3 (28:50):
Welcome in our number three. That's right.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
On a TV theme song Thursday, Rob Parker, Tjhuschmanzada, who
wasn't All Pro back in two thousand and seven and
he had forty four career receiving touchdowns in his career.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Do you remember your first touchdown? Give me the situation
to play?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Nah, Man, I have no idea. Don't even you don't
remember your first touchdown? Don't don't you don't remember? Nah?
Who was it that you know? Was it?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I'm guessing it the idea?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
What was his name with the Kenny and Ken Kenny Anderson?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
What was his name in the quarter No, it was
the quarterback. Probably was John Kittner.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
John Kittner.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, and assuming kit threw me my first touchdown, but
I could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
How could you not remember that?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
My god? I mean, I ain't one of them dudes. Man,
That just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
But anyway, forty four career touchdowns and that's right, that's uh.
And you played for the Bengals most of your career,
of course, then you went to Seattle, Baltimore and with
the Oakland Raiders and twenty eleven before it was a rap,
but what a career it was. And always great to
have you on filling in for Chris Brussard. And we
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are broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios
and TJ let's let's see more football right here.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Okay, so, uh, we get where the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Are, right. They they decide that they want life without
Russell Wilson and they take a huge hit on the
on the cap. Right, Let's let's Patrick tell us exactly
how much of a hit they're taken by letting.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Uh russels Russell Wilson bounce y.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
So actually with him being cut and with having a
June first designation. Uh, it's actually so big of a
cap hit. It's actually split into two years. Just how
big it is, the first one being twenty twenty four.
That's this year. It's a fifty three million for this
one and then thirty two million the following year. Just
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overall it's huge. It's eighty five.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
That's how much Sean Payton hates them. Okay that they
took an TJ and unprecedented am I right? Unprecedented salary
cap hit to get rid of.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Uh Wilson. How can you be competitive in that same season?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
How can you feel the competitive football team when not
only are you taking a huge cap hit, this player
not even he's not even on the team.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
He's not even on the team that help you. It is,
so it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It's one hundred crazy and and thirty two for the
following year. So it's just a tremendous amount of money.
But here's a question to you, and we already know.
I mentioned that Sean Payton he had it in for
him when he before he even got there. You remember that, right,
He just had nothing good to say about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Russell. Was it all pro?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Last I thought he was, but he played, but he
played pretty well.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Last I thought I thought Sean Payton went in a
Denver optimistic that him and Russell would mesh. I believe
he went in there with some optimism thinking it would
work out.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
But he turned on him.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Remember that all that talk about he's too busy kissing
babies and shaking hands and we need to stop, you
know it.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Just when he said that, I thought that was him
trying to let Russ know, like, just just focus on
the main part. Focus on football. Let's focus on football
and let's see where that takes it.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Don't say that. Can you say that privately? TJ. Look,
you can have a message to people.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
He should have said it like it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Should be private, Like you can pull somebody aside. If
I don't like what's going on on the radio show tonight,
and I'm a tell Patrick, who's who's the producer filling in?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Do I tell him on the radio or do I
tell him off the radio?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh? You tell them off the radio for sure.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Okay, Patrick, you're doing a great job. I just used
as an example. I'm just saying, come on, I know,
as an example.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
No, no, but to get my point a time in plays,
you don't do that to Russell Wilson on the you know,
in front of everybody, undressed, the guy who won a
Super Bowl, who went to back to back Super Bowls.
If it wasn't for that terrible play call and that
interception in the end zone, Russell Wilson would be heading
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to the Super Bowl, I mean, to the to the
Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yes? You're right? You know what though? Rob, he went
in there optimistic, but he was uncertain. He was uncertain.
He was hoping that Russ was gonna be the guy,
but he wasn't certain of it. He had a sense
of He was just unsure the type of quarterback that
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Russell Wilson could be. He was unsure. He wasn't sold.
It wasn't as if, Okay, your haulball and you agree
to coach the charges, you know what you're getting with
Herbert or you take the Bengals and Joe Burrow, you
take the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes. Okay, you know what
you're getting. This is where I'm going.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You're right, Okay, I led you to the water you're drinking. Okay,
you're you're drinking perfect because the flip side is if
the Broncos could take such a cap hit, why not
the Cowboys? And you say, well, Dak Prescott had a
great year last year for the Cowboys. They won twelve
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games each season the last three years. They had a
sixteen game home winning streak before they lost to the
Packers in the play playoffs. All this other good stuff.
But in the postseason Dak has been bad. And my
point here is I'd rather take the unknown rather than
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the known, because the known is that Dak Prescott can
play well during the regular season, has turned in some
real bad stinkers in the postseason. For you, this is
not two or three games, right, He's lost I think
five playoff games. It's not two or three games. And
the last performance was as bad as it gets? Am
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I crazy TJ to think that why can't the Cowboys
do the same thing instead of paying a guy sixty
million dollars because they're afraid of the cap hit, They're
gonna have to pay Dak something in that neighborhood to
save their cap. But yet, after all these years, I'm
convinced I know what he is, So to me, he's
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the known sometimes I'd rather take the unknown. And here's
one more example. People say, you're crazy, why would you
do that. Dak is a good quarterback and he gets
you in a position where you have a chance. Do
you remember when Tony Dungee was the coach of the
Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
They couldn't get over the hump?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
What did they do? TJ? They opted for coach what
he wasn't a coach any.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Longer exactly, And they went and got somebody who had
not won a Super Bowl in John Gruden. And guess
what the Bucks did the very next.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Year won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
They won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
And my point is, you can't be afraid of going
to the unknown because of what you're used to. And
back then people could have made the argument, you can't
fire Tony Dungee. He gets you to the NFC Championship game.
He gets you twelve wins a year, You know what
I mean? You're always in the mix. Yes you can
if you really believe in something else.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
This is the thing with that, though, when you when
we try to parallel the Bronco situation with the Cowboys situation,
Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, nobody believes with or without Russell Wilson,
that the Broncos have a chance to even compete for
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a Super Bowl with or without. With or without Russell Wilson,
many believe the Cowboys have an opportunity to compete for
a Super Bowl with Dak. No chance without this team.
Every year, oh, this the year, This the year the
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Cowboys is ready, and so the fan base of the Cowboys,
they always have this excitement in April because of the DRAFTDJ.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
They had not won well, you know, this NFC Championship
game in almost thirty years.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
The way they lost to the Packers was embarrassed. The
way they lost that game. It wasn't even close. Wasn't
even close, but it wasn't close. But you cannot do
to Dak Prescott what the Broncos did to Russell Wilson
because of they're always quote unquote close. I just don't
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believe you can do it. Be I just gave you.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I gave you an example example.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I don't think the Cowboys are going to compete for
a Super Bowl. They're going to have a good team.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
But are you sure they have a good team that
I just forgot his name. The back of quarterback who
came in when Dak was hurt.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Well, now the backup quarterback is going to be Trey Lance.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
No, but the other guy who they had, they won.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
They kept winning Rush Cooper Rush.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
They didn't fall off.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
They got talent, talent on defense, they got receivers, they
didn't fall off, Cooper Rush.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
They kept winning. What's the difference now?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Will they be better? Quinn is no longer the defensive coordinator,
it's Mike Zimmer. You will get Trayvon Diggs back this season.
It's just I just don't believe if you're the Cowboys,
you can do that. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
But haven't you seen enough of Dak? You really believe
he's gonna win.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I'm not giving I'm not giving Dak an extension where
I'm paying him over fifty million years.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Make sixty million, rob.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I'm not doing it. I would not do it because
it's more of the same. Yeah, we'll compete, we'll be good,
We'll give all our fans hope and then this will happen.
I'm not doing that like I would rather. Obviously, every
team has to be under the salary cap. The Cowboys
are under the salary cap. They don't like the cap
hit that they're taking from Dak, so they don't have
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to move. I will take this cap hit. He's already
on my team. We're under the cap, and I'll deal
with it. But I'm not. And this is where the
Cowboys got in trouble. They waited and waited, and we
remember that assigned that for thirty million a year and
end up getting forty. And so I'm not giving Dak
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Prescott one dollar over fifty million a year. I'm not
doing it. I'm not for what when you pay those
guys that type of money they got to be able
to win your Super Bowl. Dak will get you in
contention for a Super Bowl. You're not winning. You're just
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not going to win.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
And that's why I say he's the known. He is
the known, and the numbers bear it out.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
And that's not a knock on Dak, Like, that's not
a knock on him. Like you gotta be special man,
Patrick Mahomes, Like for him to win a Super Bowl
this year, Yeah, that defense pulled a ton of weight.
But Pat may plays when they need to be made,
Like you have to have one of those quarterbacks where
you're like aim on the line, man, you gotta go
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get this for us many quarterbacks in the league do
we have that type of confidence in?
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Not too many, not too many. But but to me,
the resume for Dak is bad to just reward the
guy because of the system, right and the cap.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
And then Lebronco suggest is what I don't like about
the quarterback position, Rob, when it comes to when you
pay a guy, Oh, I'm the next guy up. So
I gotta sell a god that.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
They paid a position instead of the player, right, Rob?
Speaker 2 (41:35):
In what world and just in sports in general, we
all know Patrick mahomes the best quarterback. He should always
be the highest paid nobody. He should be the highest
paid quarterback in the league, nobody you know, than him.
I don't understand that where it's oh, well, so and
(41:57):
so signed for fifty one, so you gotta sign for
fifty two. Now I gotta sign for fifty three. Now
you gotta sign for fifty four. Patrick mahonmes is the
best quarterback and so he should be at the top.
Now if a Joe Burrow comes, okay, I can see it,
and then Pat mahoons got to renegotiate and go above
at right, But Dak Prescott should not leap frog Joe Burrow,
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Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, like, what in what world? Because
he hasn't accomplished what they've accomplished.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Well, but that's where he's in position. And that is
our question to you. If you're the Cowboys, what would
you do? Just just go along with the system, Extend Dak,
give him sixty million dollars or whatever it is a
year so that you don't you're not in cap hell
like the Broncos, or do you make a bowl.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Move Hey and Rob, let him know. Let him know. Rob,
if you were Jerry Jones, Now, if you're a Cowboy fan,
if this is coming out Joe posyas your money, would
you do with him?
Speaker 5 (42:58):
No.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Eight seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine
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Speaker 3 (43:04):
I want to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
It is the odd couple on a TV theme song Thursday,
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here on Fox Sports Radio. Stick and stay
Speaker 4 (43:16):
With Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys in the US
of a
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple with
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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Speaker 3 (00:40):
Are we ready to row?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
We're broadcasting live from the Okay from broadcasting live from
the TI rach dot com studios, and man, man, what
a show we have for you today. So much to do,
so little time. And it's always great to get hushin
uh in place of Chris Bouchard, who's gonna be off
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for the next couple of days. But a great show. Nonetheless,
I hope you stick around for all three hours here
on Fox Sports Radio. Kerry Kittles, the former NBA VET
and Fox Sports Radio NBA analysts, will join us in
our number one Also our number two, we are okay,
(01:24):
can read my own writing on our number two?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
We have.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Who do we have in our number two?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I can't read it?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Hold on, well, we got a big show.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Let's let's get into TJ Houshmann Zada and welcome in
into the program.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
What's up, TJ? How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Man? Mister Parker? What's up? My guy? Always a good time.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You already know how we do.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Get ready to rock and roll, get a people a
good show. That that that's the plan.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Give them what they want. I should say that.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So I just said, uh, we got carry Kittles and
Deshaun Tait will do some college basketball with us as well.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So I did finally get it figured out.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
So TJ, life is good, you and the family all
enjoying this time of the year or what.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Man, this time of the year. For me, it's fun
on the field all day, rob literally on the field
all day with these young boys many to just trying
to make them better. But this week has been a
good week. We've had a ton of high profile college players,
high profile NFL players out there with us this week. Man,
(02:36):
it's been a good fun week.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, I know you love the coaching aspect would you
ever want to be a head coach in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I would like to coach in the National Football League.
I want, I've been. I actually had some offers the
last couple of years. Man, But I want to make
sure that my son is really coach the correct way.
He understands things before I start coaching, and because if
I if I leave my son, I just don't know
if he will be coached correctly. And if I what's
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coming from me, He's going to understand the right he
gonna understand how the sitting zones, he's gonna understand how
his route ties into the quarterbacks, dropping things of that,
and they just listen minor things that I want to
make sure that my son understands before I before I
take that journey myself.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I hear you, how old is your son now?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Man? My son is ten long way before a.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Long way before you're getting up coaching John.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But I take him out with me. Man, I shouldn't
even say this, but I'm gonna say it. My son
missed like a day a week of school because I
bring him out to train with the guys. Just so
you know, don't listen to me. Watch the best guys
in the world. They listen to me, watch what they do,
mimic them. That's the best teacher you can.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Have, no doubt. And as long as he's getting his
work done in school and everything.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Then oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he know better than that.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I already know that. I know how you roll. So
doubt that. Yeah, no grades, no.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Football, ain't no dummies in his house.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
All right, let's welcome in the odd couple coow. We
wouldn't be able to do this fine radio program without him.
Patrick is our producer today in for Rob g Alex
and Mary Mary, why you bug in? Our engineers they're
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a fun time.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
But let's start here, TJ.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Let's start with the Baltimore Ravens and Derrick Henry.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Who I love to pick up. I love everything about it.
He's a star.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
He's second in rushing in the NFL. It's not like
he's long in the tooth and he's going the other
way and he was bad last year. And you know
what I mean, you're hoping for a miracle and just
way that that Ravens team can play and run the football.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And Derek Henry, do we have sound or is just quote? Patrick?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I just got the quote, so we'll have here, But Patrick.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Go ahead, tell us what Derek Henry said to Whosh
and then I want to get your.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Thought for sure? For sure.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
So he had a press conference today and they actually
only three questions anyway, They actually kind of you know,
the biggest concern about his future. They're asking just our
his best days ahead of him. And you know, Dereck Henry,
you said, everybody tell them to keep watching all his doubters.
People are always going to have something to say, always
going to have opinions. I'm just ready to work, ready
to get things started and do my best to help
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this organization.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
There you go, TJ.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I love to move.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Where are you on Derek Henry and the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
For the Ravens, I'm with you. I love it. Also,
I don't like it for the Bengals. But Derrick Henry
had a really good year last year. He's never averaged
under four yards carry in his career. Ever, he average
four point two yards of carry last year. He didn't
get as many touches because they were losing the majority
(06:09):
of their game, so that.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
When you're losing, you don't have time to run the ball. Okay,
the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Do you put Derrick Henry in that offense with Lamar
Jackson and the way they run the ball and the
way they scheme up things, that's gonna be a really
tough combo to stop. If you think about the playoff
game when they lost to the Kansas City Chiefs this.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Year, they didn't play their game. That's why went away
from the run exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Do you know what the running backs had six rushes
six carry in that game?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Right? If Derek Carry is a running back and you
think that's the case. No, So, just just the fact
that who he is, they won't abandon the run because
of who he is and what he's proven. And so
you may say, oh, he doesn't have it anymore, Oh
he's going down. He has yet to show that. So
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he has to show me that he slowed down before
I start to say him going to the Ravens is
not an asset. It's not it's not a good thing
for that organization. He's yet to slow down. You know
what I love had two and eighty carries, whereas you
go in twenty twenty two, he had about three hundred
(07:25):
and fifty carries.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Wow, huge, big difference.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
What I love is the front office, Like like they
didn't go away from what they do well by getting
a player of his cap, you know what I mean,
Like you don't get him and not think you're going
to run the ball. When they ran the ball twenty
five times or more. I think they lost one game
all year, Like they run the football well? And who
(07:50):
helped me explain or tell me how as a defending
as a defensive coordinator, how do you defend when you
have a guy like like to me, like how do
you game plan?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Do you put eight in a box? Like? How does this.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Work when you have two dynamic runners behind you know,
behind the center.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Anytime you play the Baltimore Ravens, you want to start,
you're getting off the bus, you get off the airplane.
We got to stop the run. You play to Baltimore,
we got to stop the run first and foremost. That's
always number one on the game plan is to stop
the run. It just got harder now. It just got
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hard with Lamar Jackson and there, it just got harder.
And I don't think people understand coaches like they're humans
when they know Derick Henry. You don't think Tom Munkin
knows that Derek Kerry is a running back. He will
not abandoned the run in the playoffs because Derrick Kearny
needs to get his touches the way he abandoned a
(08:52):
run against the Chiefs. He won't do.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
That, which was crazy. They didn't lose that Gume by
three touchdown. They weren't that game the whole game they.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Were in, and you can say they were RPOs with
Derrick Henry. Lamar's gonna hand that off. If it's a
bunch are, Lamar's gonna hand it off of Like Derrick
Henry get his carries because of who he is and
what he's accomplished. So just being on the team, being
what he's accomplished in the National Football League, that's going
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to help the play calling, the coaches, the way they think,
the way they game plan. And so this division is
shaping up at least where we are today because we
have yet to play. We have yet to practice, no injuries.
This is why the NFL is the greatest game in
the world because it's year round. Like you see moves
like this, and you can't wait for September and here
(09:45):
we are in March, and so we can talk about it,
talk about it, talk about it. But I believe Dereck
Henry has at least two really good years. These dudes
don't want to talk. You've seen Have you seen Derek
Henry in person? Rock?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yes, matter of fact that the Super Bowl in Miami,
have a picture with me and him and Chris, the
three of them.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Man, these dudes ain't trying to tackle Derrick Henry. No
that they not trying to tackle Dereck Heerry. You say
what you want to say. That is a big boy
coming downhill. You meant they ankle tackling, biting at his ankles.
You don't want to tackle that big old boy, especially
when it gets cold late in the game. This move
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for the Ravens is huge. Now the rest of the division,
they gonna have to get better. And you believe the
Steelers did with Russell Wilson. The Bengals for sure did.
If Joe Burrow can stay healthy, I mean, this division
is gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But I think the Browns are the team on the
outside looking at I do I think the Browns. If
I got to pick one of the teams not to
make the playoffs, I'm picking the Browns.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I mean, I can't. I can't. The Browns are so talented.
Jerry Judy is talented. You now you have Jerry Judy,
Amari Cooper, Elijah More on offense. If Dashaun Watson and
David and Joku who had a really good season last year,
Nick Chubb if he comes back from this injury, that
offense and we know their offensive line is good, it's
gonna be Can Deshaun Watson just play better football?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well, but we don't know that. And that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
The fact that's why wildcard we don't like.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
That's why they had a wildcard.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
To me, when you look at it, Pittsburgh with no
quarterback play whatsoever, won nine games, right, It made the
play with no quarterback play, right?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I mean, and then and then you look at the
other teams. Cincinnati, if Joe Burrow's healthy, He's on my list.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
To make the playoffs. If he's healthy.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Okay, the only thing that's going to derail them is
him not being healthy and not playing. And then the Ravens,
of course, they since Lamar showed up, they went like
seventy seventy five percent of their games, okay, and then
the deck Henry, you're telling me that they're not gonna
win seventy five percent of their games.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
The Ravens, they're just from top to bottom an organization
that they do things the right way. Very rarely do
the Baltimore Ravens sign guys the big free agent deals,
and when they do, the majority of the time, it
works the majority time. When they draft a guy in
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the first three the majority.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Right, No, they've had.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
A breaking deal. You look at Patrick Crean, he leaves
and goes to the Steelers. If they didn't have ropewand Smith,
Patrick Queen would have signed a second contract with the
Baltimore Ravens. They draft and developed so well, and that's
why you see the guys that they draft, they always
get a second deal. For the most part, guys that
are draft in the top three four rounds with the
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Baltimore Ravens they get second deals. They do a really
good job drafting, developing guys and then when they go
sign a free agent like a Derrick Henry, it pans out.
They sign a Steve Smith, it pans out. They sign
an A Kwan Boting, it works out. And so they
just do a really good job. I have nothing but
respect for those guys in Baltimore. They do a hell
(13:14):
of a job. But this Derrick Henry signing, I'm a
fan of it. You're gonna have He's gonna have to
play bad for me to say, oh wow, this is shocking.
I expect him in the Baltimore Ravens to be better
than they ever have running the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
All right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight
seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. It's
real simple. Is Derrick Henry the missing piece that will
finally get the Ravens over the hump? Get Lamar to
the super Bowl, give the Ravens a chance to win
the super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Or no, you're not believing in the Derek Henry move
and you and you disagree with me and TJ.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
We want to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It is the odd couple on a TV theme song Thursday,
Rob Parker and Tjhuschman Zada Infra Chris Bussard right here on.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Stick and stay in Dereck Henry and the Ravens in
the US of A.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
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Speaker 6 (14:35):
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Speaker 2 (14:43):
What is Up on Game?
Speaker 6 (14:44):
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Speaker 3 (15:16):
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Speaker 1 (15:19):
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Speaker 3 (15:53):
I want to give a.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
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I hired him before when I had a party at
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Speaker 3 (16:23):
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Speaker 2 (16:24):
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Speaker 3 (16:29):
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Speaker 2 (16:32):
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I don't possess a type of money that but I
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Speaker 3 (16:43):
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Speaker 1 (16:45):
I'll tell you that after after I've been into one
of his ribs. My god, I mean I needed a
cigarette and baby oil, t J.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
That goodmic, Like if he listening, I don't have Rod Parker, Honey,
I got a little bit more than that oil.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, you need more than that? All right, All good,
All right, TJ. Let's go here.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
College football, No surprise, Nick Saban retired. There's gonna be
a lot of other older coaches. I'm predicting that Tom
Mizzo is gonna step down eventually, uh in college basketball
at Michigan because these old time coaches don't like what's
going on. They don't like the compensation that these players
are getting. They don't like the idea that they don't
(17:31):
have control over over them. Uh, from the standpoint with
the transfer portal, the n I L money, you know,
and all this other stuff. And now you know, Nick
Saban's making a tour going around Do we have sound Patrick?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
No?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Do not?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Okay, do you have?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, Nick Saban has been going around TJ.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Basically, you know, making making statements and ripping the sport
and how bad it is and that these kids are
I get it. He won seven championships, considered the greatest
college coach.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Of all of all time. But you know, uh, he's
he's he doesn't like the system. And this is my thing, TJ.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Everything evolves like when there's something new, right, it starts
out it's the wild, wild West, and then you kind
of figure it out, right, Like it's always like that
before you can see what it is exactly and how
it's gonna work, and how a system can be formed.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
The reason I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Again and one of his speak speaking points talking points
is about them coming up with some sort of system
to make it you know, unilateral for everyone, right, like
some sort of guidelines and rules.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Here's the problem I have.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Ay, the colleges aren't coming out of their pockets paying
the athletes, so they should have no say in how
the money's administered.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Number two, the players aren't at the bargaining table. They
don't have a union that represents the players as a whole.
So anything that's done is not gonna be in the
best entrance of the players.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
It will be in the best interest of the schools.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
See if you want to try to come up with
some idea about kids when transferring and all that kind
of stuff. Then the same rules have to apply to
coaches TJ who leave kids high and dry.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
They sit in their parents' living room.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Oh, I'm gonna make a man out of your kid,
and I'm gonna take care of him when he's at college,
and this, that and the other thing.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They get offered a big job for money, and guess
what they do, TJ.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
They bounce on the kids right whenever they want. I'm
against this in every step of the way. The old
time guys like Nick Saban, if you don't like what's happening,
get out like he did.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
He retired, get out.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Now he's on a tour going around trying to get
other things and changes and have other people agree with
him and follow what he wants done.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
In college football. You quit, you were tired.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I don't understand why people would listen to Nick Saban
at this point and determine what's right for the kids,
because the college has done wrong by the kids forever.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
This is like the best thing that ever happened to
college athletes.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Rob This is really crazy that we're agreeing on a
lot of stuff today because we normally don't agree. We don't,
but we are agreeing. You are on your stuff today.
Come on, man, Miike, this what bothers me. Nick Saban
made over one hundred and fifty million dollars coaching amateur sports.
(20:55):
In fifty million dollars coaching, and the majority of his
players came from low income neighborhoods and families. But you
have a problem now that the player has a little
more control than you would like him to have, meaning
(21:18):
if he doesn't like what's going on, he's gonna transfer
or I'm gonna transfer to the school that gives me
the most money, the same way that you did, the
same way you left Michigan State to LSU, an LSU
to the Miami Dolphins, and then Miami Dolphins to ALBI.
The same way you put yourself in a better situation.
(21:39):
That's what these kids are trying to do. And it's
so hypocritical that you've made millions upon millions of dollars
on the backs of these kids, because no disrespect. You
go to I'm not even gonna name, just go to
go to a small school. If you're gonna win these
(22:00):
national championship, go to a small school and see if
you can win these You won because of the players
you were getting. Are you a great coach? Yeah? But
they are you a great coach to where you can
go to these one of these non Power five schools
winning enough national championship? Absolutely not. And so I don't
like that when these coaches realize how he did. Ah,
(22:26):
I'm not gonna be able to compete now because our
boosters aren't gonna put the money up like the A
and M boosters or the Texas boosters. You put the
money up. You made over one hundred and fifty million.
You put it up. You for sure have enough when
you die. They not putting all your money in your casket.
So now you put some of the money up. Then
(22:46):
you started in it. You do it. You don't want
to do that though.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
You don't never that'll never happen in.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
That coach for one million, coach for one million and
a million dollar salary that you had ten million will
go into the nil fund for the players. You could
sign quite a few players if you chose to do that,
but you're not. And so that's the problem that I
have with it is now that the players can benefit
(23:13):
from themselves, which should have always been the case. What's
the problem. Why don't you like it? I'm with you,
it's me.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
And to all the money he made off the back
of these players and many TJ got nothing. You remember
when they should throw kids out of college for getting
a free pizza and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You remember that. I mean, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Peter Word got robbed at the Heisman Trophy because he
got some free clothes. Peter Worrick is one of the
top two college football players that I've ever seen in
my life. Reggie Bush won a Heisman Trophy, but he
doesn't have a Heisman Trophy because he took a little
a few little dollars, Like are you serious? Right? But
you got all these people making millions of dollars, and
(24:00):
now that the players are making thousands, it's a problem.
Really crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
It is crazy, And.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I hope the players don't give in and don't give
hoodwinked in the believing that any system that they want
to put together. That's why college players they need to unionize.
I've said this before. They need to unionize. That's the
only way they can get a fair TJ collective bargain
and agreement because you need somebody that represents them as
(24:33):
a whole, not individuals. If you do it individually, it'll
never work. It's got to be you represent everyone in
college football and give them the opportunity to earn money.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
For years, they.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Were selling guys basketball jerseys and football jerseys for making
money in the gift shop and the kids got nothing.
And then they try to say, oh that ain't you
Well what number is that? Who is number thirty running back?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You know what I mean? Who is that? Just like
the video game? Did you see what they offered the kids?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It opted, They're gonna spend that money in two days,
three days?
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Six hundred dollars and a free game?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Are you kidding me? Millions off of that?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
And and and people who was it?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
The manningson art right, Yeah, he didn't take it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
He didn't take it.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And these other kids who were taking it and then
going on their Instagram and advertising for the company as well.
It is mind boggling because their kids and they don't
even know better. You're signing away to a company that's
gonna make millions off of using your likeness, and they
give you a cup of coffee in a suite roll.
(25:46):
That's what six hundred dollars, and that game is in
the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I just what they had an opportunity, the NCAA had
an opportunity to get out ahead of this. They chose
not to.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Put they didn't want to pay. They could have done
the money right.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
They had an opportunity and they chose not to. And
so now that it's the way that it is. Oh,
now they want to go to Congress, they want help.
You had an opportunity to handle the situation and you
chose not to. It should have always been like this.
If a coach can leave, why can a player. If
(26:24):
a coach can get paid, why can a player? For
the longest, all the education is enough, it really, but
my coaches are making millions million, offensive coordinator making millions, now,
defensive coordinator making millions. Head coach for making millions upon millions.
The rest of the position coaches are making few three, four, five, six,
(26:48):
seven hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Anybody that listens to what we're saying and they don't agree,
it's crazy. You go, how about this? You go work
for free in because that's what you want to That's
basically what you're saying you want the players to do
right that you go work for free, you go work
for free. Nope, we're not doing that. Nobody's gonna work
(27:13):
for free. But you want the players to believe getting
the education, their powership.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Is their payment.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right, That's enough.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
That's what they want you to believe. It's not.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That's not the case. Not the hours that you put in.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
And the money being made. The money being made.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Look at the greedy they're about to go to fourteen
teams in the college football playoff. Why money, they're making millions,
printing money?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
All right, we want to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. I'm playing simple.
TJ and I are both in lockstep. Nick Saban is
a hypocrite. Anybody who's against the nil I'm talking about
who's in the in the in the business, coaches and
whatnot who make millions and are against the kids getting
(28:00):
NIOW money or being able to track their hypocrites because
they've done the same exact thing. Why is it a
double standard? If you disagree, we want to hear from you.
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Please join us
on this conversation. It is the Odd Couple On a
TV Theme song Thursday, Rob Parker, Tjhuschman Zada, Infra, Chris
(28:20):
Bussard Stick and Stay.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Like the Nil and Nick Saban in the US of A.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcast. Be sure
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to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 3 (28:50):
Welcome in our number three. That's right.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
On a TV theme song Thursday, Rob Parker, Tjhuschmanzada, who
wasn't All Pro back in two thousand and seven and
he had forty four career receiving touchdowns in his career.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Do you remember your first touchdown? Give me the situation
to play?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Nah, Man, I have no idea. Don't even you don't
remember your first touchdown? Don't don't you don't remember? Nah?
Who was it that you know? Was it?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I'm guessing it the idea?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
What was his name with the Kenny and Ken Kenny Anderson?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
What was his name in the quarter No, it was
the quarterback. Probably was John Kittner.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
John Kittner.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, and assuming kit threw me my first touchdown, but
I could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
How could you not remember that?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
My god? I mean, I ain't one of them dudes. Man,
That just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
But anyway, forty four career touchdowns and that's right, that's uh.
And you played for the Bengals most of your career,
of course, then you went to Seattle, Baltimore and with
the Oakland Raiders and twenty eleven before it was a rap,
but what a career it was. And always great to
have you on filling in for Chris Brussard. And we
(30:08):
are broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios
and TJ let's let's see more football right here.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Okay, so, uh, we get where the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Are, right. They they decide that they want life without
Russell Wilson and they take a huge hit on the
on the cap. Right, Let's let's Patrick tell us exactly
how much of a hit they're taken by letting.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Uh russels Russell Wilson bounce y.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
So actually with him being cut and with having a
June first designation. Uh, it's actually so big of a
cap hit. It's actually split into two years. Just how
big it is, the first one being twenty twenty four.
That's this year. It's a fifty three million for this
one and then thirty two million the following year. Just
(31:08):
overall it's huge. It's eighty five.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
That's how much Sean Payton hates them. Okay that they
took an TJ and unprecedented am I right? Unprecedented salary
cap hit to get rid of.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Uh Wilson. How can you be competitive in that same season?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
How can you feel the competitive football team when not
only are you taking a huge cap hit, this player
not even he's not even on the team.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
He's not even on the team that help you. It is,
so it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It's one hundred crazy and and thirty two for the
following year. So it's just a tremendous amount of money.
But here's a question to you, and we already know.
I mentioned that Sean Payton he had it in for
him when he before he even got there. You remember that, right,
He just had nothing good to say about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Russell. Was it all pro?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Last I thought he was, but he played, but he
played pretty well.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Last I thought I thought Sean Payton went in a
Denver optimistic that him and Russell would mesh. I believe
he went in there with some optimism thinking it would
work out.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
But he turned on him.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Remember that all that talk about he's too busy kissing
babies and shaking hands and we need to stop, you
know it.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Just when he said that, I thought that was him
trying to let Russ know, like, just just focus on
the main part. Focus on football. Let's focus on football
and let's see where that takes it.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Don't say that. Can you say that privately? TJ. Look,
you can have a message to people.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
He should have said it like it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Should be private, Like you can pull somebody aside. If
I don't like what's going on on the radio show tonight,
and I'm a tell Patrick, who's who's the producer filling in?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Do I tell him on the radio or do I
tell him off the radio?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh? You tell them off the radio for sure.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Okay, Patrick, you're doing a great job. I just used
as an example. I'm just saying, come on, I know,
as an example.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
No, no, but to get my point a time in plays,
you don't do that to Russell Wilson on the you know,
in front of everybody, undressed, the guy who won a
Super Bowl, who went to back to back Super Bowls.
If it wasn't for that terrible play call and that
interception in the end zone, Russell Wilson would be heading
(33:34):
to the Super Bowl, I mean, to the to the
Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yes? You're right? You know what though? Rob, he went
in there optimistic, but he was uncertain. He was uncertain.
He was hoping that Russ was gonna be the guy,
but he wasn't certain of it. He had a sense
of He was just unsure the type of quarterback that
(34:01):
Russell Wilson could be. He was unsure. He wasn't sold.
It wasn't as if, Okay, your haulball and you agree
to coach the charges, you know what you're getting with
Herbert or you take the Bengals and Joe Burrow, you
take the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes. Okay, you know what
you're getting. This is where I'm going.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You're right, Okay, I led you to the water you're drinking. Okay,
you're you're drinking perfect because the flip side is if
the Broncos could take such a cap hit, why not
the Cowboys? And you say, well, Dak Prescott had a
great year last year for the Cowboys. They won twelve
(34:42):
games each season the last three years. They had a
sixteen game home winning streak before they lost to the
Packers in the play playoffs. All this other good stuff.
But in the postseason Dak has been bad. And my
point here is I'd rather take the unknown rather than
(35:08):
the known, because the known is that Dak Prescott can
play well during the regular season, has turned in some
real bad stinkers in the postseason. For you, this is
not two or three games, right, He's lost I think
five playoff games. It's not two or three games. And
the last performance was as bad as it gets? Am
(35:31):
I crazy TJ to think that why can't the Cowboys
do the same thing instead of paying a guy sixty
million dollars because they're afraid of the cap hit, They're
gonna have to pay Dak something in that neighborhood to
save their cap. But yet, after all these years, I'm
convinced I know what he is, So to me, he's
(35:54):
the known sometimes I'd rather take the unknown. And here's
one more example. People say, you're crazy, why would you
do that. Dak is a good quarterback and he gets
you in a position where you have a chance. Do
you remember when Tony Dungee was the coach of the
Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
They couldn't get over the hump?
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
What did they do? TJ? They opted for coach what
he wasn't a coach any.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Longer exactly, And they went and got somebody who had
not won a Super Bowl in John Gruden. And guess
what the Bucks did the very next.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Year won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
They won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
And my point is, you can't be afraid of going
to the unknown because of what you're used to. And
back then people could have made the argument, you can't
fire Tony Dungee. He gets you to the NFC Championship game.
He gets you twelve wins a year, You know what
I mean? You're always in the mix. Yes you can
if you really believe in something else.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
This is the thing with that, though, when you when
we try to parallel the Bronco situation with the Cowboys situation,
Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, nobody believes with or without Russell Wilson,
that the Broncos have a chance to even compete for
(37:18):
a Super Bowl with or without. With or without Russell Wilson,
many believe the Cowboys have an opportunity to compete for
a Super Bowl with Dak. No chance without this team.
Every year, oh, this the year, This the year the
(37:38):
Cowboys is ready, and so the fan base of the Cowboys,
they always have this excitement in April because of the DRAFTDJ.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
They had not won well, you know, this NFC Championship
game in almost thirty years.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
The way they lost to the Packers was embarrassed. The
way they lost that game. It wasn't even close. Wasn't
even close, but it wasn't close. But you cannot do
to Dak Prescott what the Broncos did to Russell Wilson
because of they're always quote unquote close. I just don't
(38:22):
believe you can do it. Be I just gave you.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I gave you an example example.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I don't think the Cowboys are going to compete for
a Super Bowl. They're going to have a good team.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
But are you sure they have a good team that
I just forgot his name. The back of quarterback who
came in when Dak was hurt.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Well, now the backup quarterback is going to be Trey Lance.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
No, but the other guy who they had, they won.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
They kept winning Rush Cooper Rush.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
They didn't fall off.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
They got talent, talent on defense, they got receivers, they
didn't fall off, Cooper Rush.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
They kept winning. What's the difference now?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Will they be better? Quinn is no longer the defensive coordinator,
it's Mike Zimmer. You will get Trayvon Diggs back this season.
It's just I just don't believe if you're the Cowboys,
you can do that. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
But haven't you seen enough of Dak? You really believe
he's gonna win.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I'm not giving I'm not giving Dak an extension where
I'm paying him over fifty million years.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Make sixty million, rob.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I'm not doing it. I would not do it because
it's more of the same. Yeah, we'll compete, we'll be good,
We'll give all our fans hope and then this will happen.
I'm not doing that like I would rather. Obviously, every
team has to be under the salary cap. The Cowboys
are under the salary cap. They don't like the cap
hit that they're taking from Dak, so they don't have
(39:52):
to move. I will take this cap hit. He's already
on my team. We're under the cap, and I'll deal
with it. But I'm not. And this is where the
Cowboys got in trouble. They waited and waited, and we
remember that assigned that for thirty million a year and
end up getting forty. And so I'm not giving Dak
(40:12):
Prescott one dollar over fifty million a year. I'm not
doing it. I'm not for what when you pay those
guys that type of money they got to be able
to win your Super Bowl. Dak will get you in
contention for a Super Bowl. You're not winning. You're just
(40:32):
not going to win.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
And that's why I say he's the known. He is
the known, and the numbers bear it out.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
And that's not a knock on Dak, Like, that's not
a knock on him. Like you gotta be special man,
Patrick Mahomes, Like for him to win a Super Bowl
this year, Yeah, that defense pulled a ton of weight.
But Pat may plays when they need to be made,
Like you have to have one of those quarterbacks where
you're like aim on the line, man, you gotta go
(41:01):
get this for us many quarterbacks in the league do
we have that type of confidence in?
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Not too many, not too many. But but to me,
the resume for Dak is bad to just reward the
guy because of the system, right and the cap.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
And then Lebronco suggest is what I don't like about
the quarterback position, Rob, when it comes to when you
pay a guy, Oh, I'm the next guy up. So
I gotta sell a god that.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
They paid a position instead of the player, right, Rob?
Speaker 2 (41:35):
In what world and just in sports in general, we
all know Patrick mahomes the best quarterback. He should always
be the highest paid nobody. He should be the highest
paid quarterback in the league, nobody you know, than him.
I don't understand that where it's oh, well, so and
(41:57):
so signed for fifty one, so you gotta sign for
fifty two. Now I gotta sign for fifty three. Now
you gotta sign for fifty four. Patrick mahonmes is the
best quarterback and so he should be at the top.
Now if a Joe Burrow comes, okay, I can see it,
and then Pat mahoons got to renegotiate and go above
at right, But Dak Prescott should not leap frog Joe Burrow,
(42:22):
Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, like, what in what world? Because
he hasn't accomplished what they've accomplished.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Well, but that's where he's in position. And that is
our question to you. If you're the Cowboys, what would
you do? Just just go along with the system, Extend Dak,
give him sixty million dollars or whatever it is a
year so that you don't you're not in cap hell
like the Broncos, or do you make a bowl.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Move Hey and Rob, let him know. Let him know. Rob,
if you were Jerry Jones, Now, if you're a Cowboy fan,
if this is coming out Joe posyas your money, would
you do with him?
Speaker 5 (42:58):
No.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
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Speaker 1 (43:05):
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