April 13, 2024 • 36 mins
Chris and Rob tell us why they have a big problem with women like Diana Taurasi who keep hating on Caitlin Clark, debate whether UConn winning back-to-back men’s national championships proves that they are a Blue Blood in the world of college basketball and discuss whether it’s even possible to separate OJ Simpson the Hall of Fame football player from OJ Simpson the alleged murderer.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
She is obviously the superstar of women's college basketball.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
In this hour, she is the most talked about player in.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Women's basketball period WNBA or college and for now at least,
rob the WNBA players that are getting shine are the
ones who are talking about her.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Their comments about her are.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
While we're talking about them, and I'm talking about Diana
Tarazi and Sue Bird Robs. So they had one of
those you know, simulcasts during the championship game where they
were on screen, you know, like Peyton Manning and Eli
Manning do for Monday night football games, Thursday night football,
whatever it is. And so they were talking during the
(01:19):
game about Clark, and Diana Tarazi said something that called
a little little heat here.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It is reality is coming.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Okay, you know there's levels to this thing, and that's
just life.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
We all went through it. And then you see it
on the NBA.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Side, and you're gonna see it on this side where
you look superhuman playing against eighteen year olds, but you're
gonna come with some grown women that have been playing
professional basket for a long time. Not saying that it's
not gonna translate, because when you're great at what you do,
you're just gonna get better. But there's gonna be a
transition period where you're gonna have to give yourself some
grace as a rookie. You know, it might take a
little bit longer for some people.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I mean, Tazi robs into the NBA or a WNBA
and average seventeen points her rookie year, and she's averaged
nineteen for a career, so she was pretty much he
was Rookie of the Year, finished third in the MVP voting.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
So, I look, I'm gonna be honest, and I don't
watch much WNBA, so maybe I'm wrong. I think Caitlyn
Clark gonna step into the WNBA and go berserk.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I think she's gonna put up big numbers.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
In the WNBA, just like she does in women's college basketball.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I mean, but I'm not saying she'll be that dominant.
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Maybe maybe I'm ignorant of the WNBA and I don't
watch it very often, so okay, that's possible. But I
think she's going to get busy in the WNBA and
Rob most not all, but so many of the great
ones in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And you know, you can.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Take out the high school guys because obviously there's a
you know, a learning curve there from going high school
to the pros. Even the soul Lebron still played well
as a rookie average twenty. But Jordan Bird Magic, obviously,
the big guys Kareem, Elijah and all those guys. Rob
(03:26):
they all stepped in. And here's the thing. She's not
a one and done. She's coming in after four years
of college. I think she's ready. So you know, we'll see.
But I think she's gonna do her thing in college.
This is the issue. I have.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Shame on them, Chris to like Rosie, Yeah, shame on
them to like talk down to her and about what
to expect in the WNBA, because that's not the moment
for that. She's still in college. She shouldn't be talking
about what is in store when this woman has just
had a major impact on women's college basketball. They sound
(04:04):
like Debbie Downers. They sound jealous, That's what they sound like.
I have no idea why that's the topic of conversation now.
She hasn't been drafted, Chris, She's not playing in the
WNBA yet. I'm not saying you can't get there, but
my god, really, is that is that the moment to
talk about? Oh wait, does you get into the w NBA. Hey, Tarassi?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You know he got eighteen in the first quarter? Well
wait does he wait? After? That's literally about that? Shut
that stuff down?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Is that the right place, Chris, my being from, it's
not the right place. Absolute and Tarassi and them, they said, well,
you guys did so well, and all the stuff you did,
y'all averaged six thousand fans twenty twenty eight years later,
and you got no TV ratings all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Come on, stop it. Well, Rob, you're at the heart
of the matter, which is its just been. There's been
a lot of hate for Caitlyn Clark out there.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Coming from women, Chris, the men that loved her.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Lebron's tweeting, you know, hating like they're giving her love,
were giving her props.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm sorry, how can you not give her props?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
The girl is bad and you know why men are
attracted to her. Her style of game, Chris, the logo, threes,
all that candles, yes, the assist, the phenomenal pass.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yes, like that stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And all we hear is these women who are accomplished,
nobody's taking away your jump and trophy.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
They're jealous crad.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, they're jealous that they didn't draw this level of attention.
And I guess that's competitiveness. But and let's just keep
it real. If we were in their shoes, we might
feel the same French jealousy. But I think we know
better then.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I think I know I would.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Just say the right thing. I want to say that.
I would not be out there spouting my jealousy. I
feel like, you know, I'm not in that.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
We already have that.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
It's human the field jealousy, but we we have. Why
are they saying it? Why aren't they supporting her?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But we have we have a similar thing that we
could point to quits and our and our profession in
our lives all right, we were all on First Take,
stephen A.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You me right, we were all there.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
We were Me and you have been on the only
three have been on all three shows. And I'm talking
about Cole Pizza when we first and ten was col right, uh,
first first take and undisputed Me, you and Skip on
the only three have been in all of even stephen.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
A wasn't on Colpy. Okay, undisputed right. But my point
is we don't go.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Out and bash stephen A because he is at the
top of the profession, do we We're not bashing Shannon
journalist exactly. You know what, he didn't cover any sports?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
What's he talking? You're right, this is what I'm saying.
Why would you do it?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Right? We were in the same position. We could feel
a little bit and know like why they getting all
this attention? Why is why is stephen A the guy
at ESPN and we were working there and why didn't
we get No.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I'm just saying, like I don't understand. Oh, you're right,
and I don't even feel jealous.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I'm not jealous. We're happy for those guys. We know
what work those guys put in. We've we worked with
stephen A We've seen him put in all the work.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'm happy that he's at the top. Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So I don't know why they can't be happy for her,
But you agree with me. It's just straight jealous.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It's jealous and it's not I mean, obviously people are
saying this. I don't know. Is she better than Dana Tororison?
Who knows? You know, I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I'm not an expert on the women's game. Don't like
I you know, covered the men's game. But it's like
you said, Rob, it's her style of play. Yes, that's
what I mentioned. This their racial element, Okay, probably little there,
and that's in most parts of American society. But tros
Did is white, Sue Bird is white. They didn't get
(08:20):
this kind of attention Brianna Stewart. You know what, They
didn't play that style. It really is her, the way
she plays the logo threes to handle. And I'm gonna
say this, anybody that really played basketball any significant level
knows the way you kind guarded her. And props to
Gino Arima because that was a great game plan. I mean,
(08:42):
it wasn't a box in one, but basically they had
the one player. Her whole job was just to be
in Caitlyn Clark's grill. And then in the second half
or Yukon kind of did I'm not Yukon.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
South Carolina kind of did the same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
She had to work.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
That is so difficult when you have somebody that's really
not even paying attention.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
To the rest of the what's hot. She is just
focused on you and denying you the ball and staying
in your face. That is so difficult.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
And to go through that for forty minutes and then
and she, I mean, points she have against you?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Ken? Rob g looked at was it forty? Is that
what she had?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Because she had forty one against Lsu? I THINKU but
something you know, something crazy? And I mean that is
so difficult and challenging. But Rob, to me, it seems
like like you talk about women not supporting the w
this is somewhat related to that.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
They're the ones hating on her. And it doesn't make
any sense.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I mean, like really, and every time I ask women
to have they going to a game, none of them
have going to a game. And let me give you
this for Tarasi twenty one nine and seven against you
kind against you con Caitlin drew the eighteen point nine
right yesterday. Chris to Rossi's three national Championship games through
fifteen point five. Combined those three and here the Las
(10:12):
Vegas Aces, who had the highest attendance in the in
the WNBA Chris nine and nine thousand, five hundred per game.
The average in the league is six thousand. And they
already moved their first game against Caitlyn Clark to the
T Mobile Arena, not what they usually play, you know,
why so that they could sell twenty thousand tickets, So
(10:32):
they I mean, why are they bashing her?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
They should be excited because that could mean more money
for all.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Of them, for all the women. Finally, more attention.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
And you see it out like Jossy it is and
it's not just them letting that Woodard not great all time.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Elegt hear what she said.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
She say she said she didn't break my that's whose
Division one n CAA scoring record Clark broke.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
She said she didn't break my record.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I'm paraphrasing, but basically because Lynnette Woodard used a men's
ball and they didn't have the three point line when
she played. And that's smart, that's a fact, and we
get that, but that's like Kareem saying Lebron didn't break
my record, Shoult, when I played, we didn't have a
three point line for the first half of my career,
(11:21):
and not that he would have been shooting it, but
if he came up today, he'd be shooting it, you know.
And so but that's not what you do, and that's
not what you men. The games evolved, you shouldn't be
saying that now.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It's like that's not your place.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
And now she's apologizing for it. She should because it
sounds like salad. Why would you say that, Like she
couldn't it in so she could only play with the
ball that's out there that they're playing with now. It
was good that they switched the ball. Obviously women's hands
are smaller, so that was good. And I get what
would a saying it's not like it's that's an interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Point, but she still broke your record.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
It just it just I mean, you can go look
at all of the sports rob and they will.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Be the same.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Chris Jayden used to play seventeen games a year in
the NFL. So when somebody breaks a record or you're
going to say, well, we only played sixteen or we
only played fourteen.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You know what we know. We were talking about Hank Aaron.
They tried to discredit when he passed Babe Ruts. You
know why, Chris. When Babe Ruth played, there was only
one hundred and fifty four games and it was at
leased to one sixty two. So people were saying, well,
his record shouldn't count because he played in one hundred
and sixty two games and Babe Ruth played in one
hundred and fifty four.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Like that, they wouldn't the career record wouldn't even matter, right,
But that's what.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
They were trying to use to discredit them.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And Rob you know too, as we've interviewed women and
on our show or other shows and about or even
just watching like ESPN watching the coverage, it's interesting because whenever,
not all the time, but a lot of times when
the interviewer has brought up k Clark, you see the
(13:02):
female being interviewed, whether she's an ex usually X player,
they bring up oh yeah, they quickly comment about her
quickly and then go to but there's so many other
great players out there.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You got you over and over, you got.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
And it's like that's where the jealousy comes out and
they're trying to say it's not just her, and we
get it, there are other great players out there, but
she is the one that.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Is taking your game to a different LEFTL And that's
what we're talking about. We're not talking about everybody, Like
why do we have to do that? Like like this
is a moment we understand that they're are the great players.
When Juju's in the National Championship Game and the TV
ratings are eighteen, then we'll talk about Juju. I mean,
(13:50):
of course, like I just sold, like, don't you get
there is interesting?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Rob, It's all is just jealousy. I don't see it
coming from the man. Obviously, men aren't gonna be jealous
of her, No, but you know the women. I mean,
like you said, it's it's like crabs in a barrel mentality.
It's like, why y'all hating? And that's why that's another reason.
Just in and of itself, it was classy. But that's
(14:17):
another reason I give don Staley credit because she's, you know,
a legend in the game herself, not only coaching but playing.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I'm sure she knows a lot of these women that
have been.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Ripping you know, or at least Southerly being critical of
Clark or not giving her all the love she should get.
And she's probably had conversations where people have brought that
up to her. And yet in the midst of all that,
she still went out of her way to show her love.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
And that was her moment and she didn't have to.
She certinly didn't have to. She didn't have to.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
If she hadn't said a thing, nobody would have been like, oh,
she was hating you know. She didn't have to do that,
So another reason to give props to Don Staley.
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Speaker 3 (16:13):
All right, so.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Rob just said he's trashing anyone that thinks Yukon is
a blue blood and Rob, we got a few numbers.
Let's start it with here, Rob G, can you give
us some ratings? We have the ratings in for the
women's which were in yesterday and the men's championship last night.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Give us those definitions or those numbers roight.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Sure now, depending on which outlet you follow. In this case,
the one I'm following is sports Media Watch. The women's
final between Iowa and South Carolina did eighteen point seven
million viewers, which is a gargantuan number, the biggest gargame
women's college basketball history, the biggest in any basketball game
(16:54):
for what five years now.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
Absolutely the men's title game between Yukon and Purdue last night,
the best team versus the best player again, this time
on the men's side, did a very solid up from
twenty twenty three fourteen point eight, which is about four
million less than the ladies.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Okay, rob, what do you make of that?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
It tells you that Yukon's not a blue blood? How
can a school Chris if they're truly a blue blood
and people are into the Yukon basketball mistique and what
they get done and the championships they win, no matter
who's the coach, no matter who's playing. How in the
world did people not tune in to see a team
(17:38):
went back to back for the first time since say it,
Rob g since Moby Dick was a guppy. That's how
long it's been, Chris. This sudden happen every day. They
don't care to watch Yukon win back to back, belly
to belly.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
No, and you can say, WELLO ratings up a little bit.
No Blue year, it was uh kin blue blood by again, Chris,
blue bloods. No matter what, you can't tell me.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
If Duke or North Carolina or Kentucky was going for
back to back, you wouldn't have had bigger rating.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yes you would have. Those are the blue bloods.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I don't think you can say that like and I'm
I mean, you make a good point, Rob, that's a
good point. You know that if you're blue blood, people
would have turned in tuned in.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
But let's say it was North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
But no, no real stars players are generally nondescript. Most
talented guys a freshman you know who you know didn't
like light the world on fire with his numbers.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
He's the most talented.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I cannot say for certain that I agree with you
that the numbers would have been better. I just think Chris,
when we talked, I think that's the state of men's
college basketball. Now if they there's no stars.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, but but there's a name brand and that's what
makes the blue blood. There's a there's a brand that's there.
Even if that what makes a blue I'm just saying that,
but that's a part of it. Like you tune in
this and it's not a lot of them, And we
could go across sports. Who are the Lake I'm not
just talking about I just came in a basketball yeah,
(19:23):
but I'm just saying, it's the same thing if you're
the Dallas Cowboys, or you're the Yankees, or you're the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, I mean, that's one team in each sport.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
No, but I'm saying and in college basketball there's a few.
I just I can't believe if Duke was going for
back to back, I don't care who's playing, like that
uniform is going for back to back, that there would
be more interests, more hoopla, Like like Yukon is winning
back to back championships.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Chris, and it's not a bit.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's not a big story, I bet you know what
I mean, Like, okay, they won, they won last year.
It would have been bigger and more pizazz, more sizzle,
more bacon, more extra cheese, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
It just seemed flat to me.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Even with Yukon winning and they won a number of championships,
they've won with three different coaches, they won over stretch
of what twenty five years, like they've won.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well, look, let's let's I mean we're talking about are
is North Carre or is Yukon of blue blood? Here's
the death I mean, it depends on how you define
blue blood. All right, here's what the dictionary says, membership
in a noble or socially prominent family.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
All right.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
In so is it based on you were one of
the great programs when basketball first, you know, college basketball
first got started, and your history, you know, historically you're
one of those top programs that would be UCLA. I
(21:01):
mean at some point North Carolina got in there and
then Duke, which you know, Duke got great when Shrzyzewski
got there in the nineties. They had a you know,
I remember they went to the championship in the seventies
against Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Kentucky obviously one of those But.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
If you're just going historically, no, Yukon was not a
powerhouse in the sixties seventies, or eighties.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But over the last.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Thirty some odd years they have been not only a powerhouse,
they have been the greatest powerhouse. They've won six championships
in twenty five years, in the last twenty five years.
Rob they've won four in the last fifteen years. Ucla,
(21:50):
we can call them a blue blood all we want.
UCLA's basketball program is mediocre.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Still a blue blood?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Well, so what, but they're fine. I mean that doesn't matter.
If you're no good, you can't. You can't win the
championship since what ninety five?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
You can't. They can be it.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
They can have the title of blue blood. So what
they don't win? There's a how many period?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Chris?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
The Cowboys haven't won either since about the same amount
of time they are blue blood.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, but now boys are different. They haven't won.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
We're not talking about I mean, let's talk. Are the
Knicks of blue blood?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
And they never were? Why not? They were? Though?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
What they want to two hundred it's more than that
they want they want to c l A please.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I mean, you kN has won six in the last
twenty five hours.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
The way different wet blanket wins that wet blank blag
and what does that mean? Just there's nothing to it,
like they want me, there's nothing to it.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
There's no juice with you come. Winning a championship is juice.
They're being celebrated. This is one of the best runs
in Final n C Double A history. I get it
that the product is watered down, but it's water down
for them too.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Florida one two back to back, right, but they are
one they haven't won.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Okay, the winning back to back, they'll make you a
blue blood. I thought they were blue blood before last night.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I mean, they are a premier. They are only two
programs that have won more than them Ucla with eleven,
Kentucky with eight, and you can now tied with North
Carolina at six. I mean, look again, if you want
to throw around the title of blue blood at UCLA
at Indiana, have at it. Those programs are sorry now
(23:44):
they're weak.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
All right, I understand the history, but you champion.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
That's fine on the championship in twenty nine years.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
History still matters, and that's why I'm just saying, like
the numbers bear out, like where is the ukon love.
People should have been glued. Oh my god, they're gonna
win an it's not bad. They're gonna win again. Oh wow,
it's not bad, they're gonna win again. It just didn't
feel like that to me. Maybe you felt like, maybe
you felt something different about last night.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I just didn't. I feel like a lot of facts.
I wasn't going by my feeling.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I was going about the feelings, because that's when we're
talking about blue bloods.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It's a feelings that.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
You get all tingling inside when you think about UCLA basketball.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yes, I do, Wow, I need your easy to please
I am.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I mean a championship in thirty years. I need more
than that. I need one warm morning, zero championships in
twenty nine years to.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Get all warm and fussy inside.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Give me some production. I mean, come on, Indiana, Indiana
blue blood rap.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Indiana's a blue blood y'all.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
This a's ridiculous. It's just getting downright ridicul list all.
It's like Notre Dame in football. Sure it is great,
give me some top of us.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
But there are places that people are gonna watch just
because of the name and the uniform more so than
the people who are playing. It doesn't matter who got
through it and that U can. It don't matter they
could keep winning the non descript.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
People don't know the descript They've had great NBA players.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm talking about the you knowing about this one team.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I'm talking over the years.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yes, but Hamilton, I don't I got it.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
But I'm just saying that you can.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
For them to win back to back and six in
the last fifteen years and in.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
The twenty five years, four in the last four, not
more in there in fifteen years, the Indiana half period,
it just doesn't feel like there's any juice to it.
That's me, Yeah, that is you because I mean, my
good I'm about production. What if you're done for me lately?
Give me some Janet Jackson. That's what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 4 (26:15):
Man, I gotta be honest, I was surprised when I
saw this, as I'm sure many people were, if not most.
But Oj Simpson died today, seventy six years old of cancer, and.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Obviously, rob Oj.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Simpson, it's an understatement to say it's complicated. You know,
one of the greatest running backs of all time.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Was for the young people.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Rob they don't know and I get it, but they
may not understand how big he was.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Right, I'm not gonna say Lebron.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
James because I don't think he was as good as
Lebron James in.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
This sport, but he was at the in the seventies.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
OJ Simpson was in the conversation who's the best running
back of all time? It's either OJ or Jim Brown.
OJ was in all the commercials and was a crossover
god like crossover.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Oh, he went out of his way to crossover. No,
there's no doubt to where he was. I'm not to
where he he was. A famous quote that he wasn't black,
he was OJ. Is that what it was?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I think there was something in this Brentwood, California neighborhood. Yeah,
I don't remember the context, but somebody said, I know
there was a quote where he said during the time
of his trial or whatever, when blacks were out in
Brentwood trying to support him, he said something like, where
are these in woods?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
In words? What they doing here? Something like that. Crazy?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
But yeah, I mean I think I remember this stuff
from his documentary.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I don't know exactly, but O. J. Yeah, he he.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I mean I remember Rob when he did he did
Monday Night Football? Right, Was he the first African American
and commentator on Monday Night Football?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
He might have been. And I think he only did
it for a year or two.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Well I think he did more than a year, because
I think at first he came back, he did it,
and then he purposely took the base out of his
voice when he came back so he could sound more white.
I mean, you remember that, Rob, remember that he wanted
to sound more white. And but obviously beyond all that,
(28:48):
you know, he uh in most people's eyes, murdered.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Two people, including his ex wife.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
And the question, I mean, the question we have up here,
Rob is can you separate O. J. Simpson from these murders?
You know, whether you think he did them or not.
And the answer to me is a clear cut no.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I mean when you think of O. J.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Simpson, that is what's going to come to mind, regardless
of what side you stand on. And yeah, I mean
I I I remember Rob where you know, it's one
of those things when the White Bronco that he was
in and his friend AJ Cowlings I think was the
(29:42):
name former player teammate of his was driving the white
for Bronco. Yeah, with the ass with the rockets, and
the Knicks had a double box Chris. During the NBA Finals,
there was a double box. There was a game, and
and and Oj and al Cally.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
He was an absolute again legend.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
And I remember I was covering high school sports in
Cleveland at the time and just and and Rob at
least the people I talked to, and these were white people.
Most people thought he didn't you know, Initially, when he
was first made a suspect, peop were like, no way,
you know, it was just kind of like, Okay, they're
(30:29):
just doing their due diligence and all of that. And
then it became an incredibly polarizing trial that to some degree,
to some degree was split along racial lines to some degree,
I don't want to say completely, but I don't think
you can separate him rob at all from this.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And you know, you say it's complicated. I don't know
how complicated it is, Chris. I just think that when
you're involved in case like that, that's what you're remembered
for that no matter what he was, and I've said
this all the time he was acquitted, people don't want
to hear it. I'm not saying I'm not naive, Chris.
(31:13):
Do I think he was involved in this?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Did he lose the civil Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, but that's easy, just it's easier, right, easy, right
right in the criminal Yeah, it's beyond reasonable doubt and civil.
You don't have to hit those kind of market exactly. So,
I just think young old when you think of O Jay,
(31:40):
it ain't about his college career, and it ain't about
the hurts, commercials running through the airport. It ain't about
two thousand yards and rushing for the Buffalo bills.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's just not.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
It's always going to be and and that's why I
think there were people today Chris on Twitter, right, was
it magic as well?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Todd and and Magic John? They got an enormous pushback
from people. Yeah, go ahead, Rob you and explain what
happened on you. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
So they both were two of the very small minority
of public figures to put anything even close to condolences
to OJ Simpson. Let's start off Todd Gurley number one.
His his tweet out that was put out this morning says,
rip to the legendary O. J. Simpson, your favorite running
Back's favorite running back, appreciate you uncle, Oh Juice, you'll
(32:32):
be missed. Thanks for the past year being on. It
is what it is that podcast Heisman number one pick
n f L MVP, first ever two thousand yard rusher,
let alone to do it in fourteen games. The list
goes on and on, praying hands. Todd Gurley turned off
all replies to his tweet. That's how bad things got. Okay,
Magic Johnson, that was a pretty Yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
It was my favorable thing.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
But this, you know what, you know what you can
do in life, Chris, even in time of death. You
can't just keep praise on people when other things are
involved in there. It's like an obituary, Like you know,
you go to the New York Times obituary Chris OJ Simpson,
who was acquitted in a world famous double right, that's
(33:19):
what they say first, OJ Simpson, Rob G Kama, who
was acquitted in a famous double murder case with involving
his ex wife and another person. Whatever, was a great
NFL running back like that. The murder comes first, Yeah,
ain't no way around it.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Well, then listen to this one, Magic Johnson. Now this
might be the most innocuous tweet possible. And he still
found a way to get roasted Magic Johnson on Twitter.
Cookie and I are praying for oj Simpson's children are
now Aaron, Justin, Jason and Sidney and his grandchildren following
his passing. I know this is a very difficult time.
Let me just read you some of the comments from
(33:59):
this tweet. Yeah, a difficult time for the staff in
Hell arranging his arrival. You're kidding, right, Hell just got
a top draft pick. Ain't no prayers needed?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah? I mean, look, Magic's tweet wasn't even about Ojan,
it was about his family. There's nothing wrong with Magic's tweet.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
I mean, I hear obviously people you know, many, if
not most, people think he did commit these murders. And
I get people being upset and all the Magic's tweet
that that doesn't make OJ's children and and survivors guilty
of anything. And so I have no problem with Magic's tweet.
(34:41):
Todd gurleies is just straight naive. I mean, And how
old is was Todd Gurley? I mean he he was
probably a toddler when all this happened.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I agree, that's not necessarily he didn't see.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
That's not the but you know, he obviously I mean
it's just naive and I under you know you're gonna
get pushed back on that. I mean, he acted like
nothing ever, nothing else happened. It was just like a
football career, like a great football player. Just gotta be
like I said, Chris, you tell the whole story. We
talk about it all the time in life. You gotta
(35:19):
tell the whole story, the good, the bad, the indifferent.
Tom Brady and his obituary, Chris, they'll talk about the
flake Gate. They'll talk you know what I mean, Like
that'll be lower, it'll be much right, right, But I'm
just saying, but it'll be in there.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's all I'm saying. Everything you do, but that'll be low.
But this is when I'm gone, it's gonna be you know.
RG three is gonna be in my obituary.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I'm just saying, you know what I mean. No, no, Mike,
it will be in there. What do you mean it
will be in there. I'm just saying, everything you do
and there'll be a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Of good stuff, which I'll be happy about, Like I
work with you for you're happy about RG three.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
She is obviously the superstar of women's college basketball.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
In this hour, she is the most talked about player in.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Women's basketball period WNBA or college and for now at least,
rob the WNBA players that are getting shine are the
ones who are talking about her.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Their comments about her are.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
While we're talking about them, and I'm talking about Diana
Tarazi and Sue Bird Robs. So they had one of
those you know, simulcasts during the championship game where they
were on screen, you know, like Peyton Manning and Eli
Manning do for Monday night football games, Thursday night football,
whatever it is. And so they were talking during the
(01:19):
game about Clark, and Diana Tarazi said something that called
a little little heat here.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It is reality is coming.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Okay, you know there's levels to this thing, and that's
just life.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
We all went through it. And then you see it
on the NBA.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Side, and you're gonna see it on this side where
you look superhuman playing against eighteen year olds, but you're
gonna come with some grown women that have been playing
professional basket for a long time. Not saying that it's
not gonna translate, because when you're great at what you do,
you're just gonna get better. But there's gonna be a
transition period where you're gonna have to give yourself some
grace as a rookie. You know, it might take a
little bit longer for some people.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I mean, Tazi robs into the NBA or a WNBA
and average seventeen points her rookie year, and she's averaged
nineteen for a career, so she was pretty much he
was Rookie of the Year, finished third in the MVP voting.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
So, I look, I'm gonna be honest, and I don't
watch much WNBA, so maybe I'm wrong. I think Caitlyn
Clark gonna step into the WNBA and go berserk.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I think she's gonna put up big numbers.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
In the WNBA, just like she does in women's college basketball.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I mean, but I'm not saying she'll be that dominant.
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Maybe maybe I'm ignorant of the WNBA and I don't
watch it very often, so okay, that's possible. But I
think she's going to get busy in the WNBA and
Rob most not all, but so many of the great
ones in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And you know, you can.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Take out the high school guys because obviously there's a
you know, a learning curve there from going high school
to the pros. Even the soul Lebron still played well
as a rookie average twenty. But Jordan Bird Magic, obviously,
the big guys Kareem, Elijah and all those guys. Rob
(03:26):
they all stepped in. And here's the thing. She's not
a one and done. She's coming in after four years
of college. I think she's ready. So you know, we'll see.
But I think she's gonna do her thing in college.
This is the issue. I have.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Shame on them, Chris to like Rosie, Yeah, shame on
them to like talk down to her and about what
to expect in the WNBA, because that's not the moment
for that. She's still in college. She shouldn't be talking
about what is in store when this woman has just
had a major impact on women's college basketball. They sound
(04:04):
like Debbie Downers. They sound jealous, That's what they sound like.
I have no idea why that's the topic of conversation now.
She hasn't been drafted, Chris, She's not playing in the
WNBA yet. I'm not saying you can't get there, but
my god, really, is that is that the moment to
talk about? Oh wait, does you get into the w NBA. Hey, Tarassi?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You know he got eighteen in the first quarter? Well
wait does he wait? After? That's literally about that? Shut
that stuff down?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Is that the right place, Chris, my being from, it's
not the right place. Absolute and Tarassi and them, they said, well,
you guys did so well, and all the stuff you did,
y'all averaged six thousand fans twenty twenty eight years later,
and you got no TV ratings all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Come on, stop it. Well, Rob, you're at the heart
of the matter, which is its just been. There's been
a lot of hate for Caitlyn Clark out there.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Coming from women, Chris, the men that loved her.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Lebron's tweeting, you know, hating like they're giving her love,
were giving her props.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm sorry, how can you not give her props?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
The girl is bad and you know why men are
attracted to her. Her style of game, Chris, the logo, threes,
all that candles, yes, the assist, the phenomenal pass.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yes, like that stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And all we hear is these women who are accomplished,
nobody's taking away your jump and trophy.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
They're jealous crad.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, they're jealous that they didn't draw this level of attention.
And I guess that's competitiveness. But and let's just keep
it real. If we were in their shoes, we might
feel the same French jealousy. But I think we know
better then.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I think I know I would.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Just say the right thing. I want to say that.
I would not be out there spouting my jealousy. I
feel like, you know, I'm not in that.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
We already have that.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
It's human the field jealousy, but we we have. Why
are they saying it? Why aren't they supporting her?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But we have we have a similar thing that we
could point to quits and our and our profession in
our lives all right, we were all on First Take,
stephen A.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You me right, we were all there.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
We were Me and you have been on the only
three have been on all three shows. And I'm talking
about Cole Pizza when we first and ten was col right, uh,
first first take and undisputed Me, you and Skip on
the only three have been in all of even stephen.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
A wasn't on Colpy. Okay, undisputed right. But my point
is we don't go.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Out and bash stephen A because he is at the
top of the profession, do we We're not bashing Shannon
journalist exactly. You know what, he didn't cover any sports?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
What's he talking? You're right, this is what I'm saying.
Why would you do it?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Right? We were in the same position. We could feel
a little bit and know like why they getting all
this attention? Why is why is stephen A the guy
at ESPN and we were working there and why didn't
we get No.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I'm just saying, like I don't understand. Oh, you're right,
and I don't even feel jealous.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I'm not jealous. We're happy for those guys. We know
what work those guys put in. We've we worked with
stephen A We've seen him put in all the work.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I'm happy that he's at the top. Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So I don't know why they can't be happy for her,
But you agree with me. It's just straight jealous.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It's jealous and it's not I mean, obviously people are
saying this. I don't know. Is she better than Dana Tororison?
Who knows? You know, I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I'm not an expert on the women's game. Don't like
I you know, covered the men's game. But it's like
you said, Rob, it's her style of play. Yes, that's
what I mentioned. This their racial element, Okay, probably little there,
and that's in most parts of American society. But tros
Did is white, Sue Bird is white. They didn't get
(08:20):
this kind of attention Brianna Stewart. You know what, They
didn't play that style. It really is her, the way
she plays the logo threes to handle. And I'm gonna
say this, anybody that really played basketball any significant level
knows the way you kind guarded her. And props to
Gino Arima because that was a great game plan. I mean,
(08:42):
it wasn't a box in one, but basically they had
the one player. Her whole job was just to be
in Caitlyn Clark's grill. And then in the second half
or Yukon kind of did I'm not Yukon.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
South Carolina kind of did the same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
She had to work.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
That is so difficult when you have somebody that's really
not even paying attention.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
To the rest of the what's hot. She is just
focused on you and denying you the ball and staying
in your face. That is so difficult.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
And to go through that for forty minutes and then
and she, I mean, points she have against you?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Ken? Rob g looked at was it forty? Is that
what she had?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Because she had forty one against Lsu? I THINKU but
something you know, something crazy? And I mean that is
so difficult and challenging. But Rob, to me, it seems
like like you talk about women not supporting the w
this is somewhat related to that.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
They're the ones hating on her. And it doesn't make
any sense.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I mean, like really, and every time I ask women
to have they going to a game, none of them
have going to a game. And let me give you
this for Tarasi twenty one nine and seven against you
kind against you con Caitlin drew the eighteen point nine
right yesterday. Chris to Rossi's three national Championship games through
fifteen point five. Combined those three and here the Las
(10:12):
Vegas Aces, who had the highest attendance in the in
the WNBA Chris nine and nine thousand, five hundred per game.
The average in the league is six thousand. And they
already moved their first game against Caitlyn Clark to the
T Mobile Arena, not what they usually play, you know,
why so that they could sell twenty thousand tickets, So
(10:32):
they I mean, why are they bashing her?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
They should be excited because that could mean more money
for all.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Of them, for all the women. Finally, more attention.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
And you see it out like Jossy it is and
it's not just them letting that Woodard not great all time.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Elegt hear what she said.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
She say she said she didn't break my that's whose
Division one n CAA scoring record Clark broke.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
She said she didn't break my record.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I'm paraphrasing, but basically because Lynnette Woodard used a men's
ball and they didn't have the three point line when
she played. And that's smart, that's a fact, and we
get that, but that's like Kareem saying Lebron didn't break
my record, Shoult, when I played, we didn't have a
three point line for the first half of my career,
(11:21):
and not that he would have been shooting it, but
if he came up today, he'd be shooting it, you know.
And so but that's not what you do, and that's
not what you men. The games evolved, you shouldn't be
saying that now.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It's like that's not your place.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
And now she's apologizing for it. She should because it
sounds like salad. Why would you say that, Like she
couldn't it in so she could only play with the
ball that's out there that they're playing with now. It
was good that they switched the ball. Obviously women's hands
are smaller, so that was good. And I get what
would a saying it's not like it's that's an interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Point, but she still broke your record.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
It just it just I mean, you can go look
at all of the sports rob and they will.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Be the same.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Chris Jayden used to play seventeen games a year in
the NFL. So when somebody breaks a record or you're
going to say, well, we only played sixteen or we
only played fourteen.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You know what we know. We were talking about Hank Aaron.
They tried to discredit when he passed Babe Ruts. You
know why, Chris. When Babe Ruth played, there was only
one hundred and fifty four games and it was at
leased to one sixty two. So people were saying, well,
his record shouldn't count because he played in one hundred
and sixty two games and Babe Ruth played in one
hundred and fifty four.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Like that, they wouldn't the career record wouldn't even matter, right,
But that's what.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
They were trying to use to discredit them.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And Rob you know too, as we've interviewed women and
on our show or other shows and about or even
just watching like ESPN watching the coverage, it's interesting because whenever,
not all the time, but a lot of times when
the interviewer has brought up k Clark, you see the
(13:02):
female being interviewed, whether she's an ex usually X player,
they bring up oh yeah, they quickly comment about her
quickly and then go to but there's so many other
great players out there.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You got you over and over, you got.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
And it's like that's where the jealousy comes out and
they're trying to say it's not just her, and we
get it, there are other great players out there, but
she is the one that.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Is taking your game to a different LEFTL And that's
what we're talking about. We're not talking about everybody, Like
why do we have to do that? Like like this
is a moment we understand that they're are the great players.
When Juju's in the National Championship Game and the TV
ratings are eighteen, then we'll talk about Juju. I mean,
(13:50):
of course, like I just sold, like, don't you get
there is interesting?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Rob, It's all is just jealousy. I don't see it
coming from the man. Obviously, men aren't gonna be jealous
of her, No, but you know the women. I mean,
like you said, it's it's like crabs in a barrel mentality.
It's like, why y'all hating? And that's why that's another reason.
Just in and of itself, it was classy. But that's
(14:17):
another reason I give don Staley credit because she's, you know,
a legend in the game herself, not only coaching but playing.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I'm sure she knows a lot of these women that
have been.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Ripping you know, or at least Southerly being critical of
Clark or not giving her all the love she should get.
And she's probably had conversations where people have brought that
up to her. And yet in the midst of all that,
she still went out of her way to show her love.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
And that was her moment and she didn't have to.
She certinly didn't have to. She didn't have to.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
If she hadn't said a thing, nobody would have been like, oh,
she was hating you know. She didn't have to do that,
So another reason to give props to Don Staley.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
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Speaker 3 (16:13):
All right, so.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Rob just said he's trashing anyone that thinks Yukon is
a blue blood and Rob, we got a few numbers.
Let's start it with here, Rob G, can you give
us some ratings? We have the ratings in for the
women's which were in yesterday and the men's championship last night.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Give us those definitions or those numbers roight.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Sure now, depending on which outlet you follow. In this case,
the one I'm following is sports Media Watch. The women's
final between Iowa and South Carolina did eighteen point seven
million viewers, which is a gargantuan number, the biggest gargame
women's college basketball history, the biggest in any basketball game
(16:54):
for what five years now.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
Absolutely the men's title game between Yukon and Purdue last night,
the best team versus the best player again, this time
on the men's side, did a very solid up from
twenty twenty three fourteen point eight, which is about four
million less than the ladies.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Okay, rob, what do you make of that?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
It tells you that Yukon's not a blue blood? How
can a school Chris if they're truly a blue blood
and people are into the Yukon basketball mistique and what
they get done and the championships they win, no matter
who's the coach, no matter who's playing. How in the
world did people not tune in to see a team
(17:38):
went back to back for the first time since say it,
Rob g since Moby Dick was a guppy. That's how
long it's been, Chris. This sudden happen every day. They
don't care to watch Yukon win back to back, belly
to belly.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
No, and you can say, WELLO ratings up a little bit.
No Blue year, it was uh kin blue blood by again, Chris,
blue bloods. No matter what, you can't tell me.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
If Duke or North Carolina or Kentucky was going for
back to back, you wouldn't have had bigger rating.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yes you would have. Those are the blue bloods.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I don't think you can say that like and I'm
I mean, you make a good point, Rob, that's a
good point. You know that if you're blue blood, people
would have turned in tuned in.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
But let's say it was North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
But no, no real stars players are generally nondescript. Most
talented guys a freshman you know who you know didn't
like light the world on fire with his numbers.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
He's the most talented.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I cannot say for certain that I agree with you
that the numbers would have been better. I just think Chris,
when we talked, I think that's the state of men's
college basketball. Now if they there's no stars.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, but but there's a name brand and that's what
makes the blue blood. There's a there's a brand that's there.
Even if that what makes a blue I'm just saying that,
but that's a part of it. Like you tune in
this and it's not a lot of them, And we
could go across sports. Who are the Lake I'm not
just talking about I just came in a basketball yeah,
(19:23):
but I'm just saying, it's the same thing if you're
the Dallas Cowboys, or you're the Yankees, or you're the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, I mean, that's one team in each sport.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
No, but I'm saying and in college basketball there's a few.
I just I can't believe if Duke was going for
back to back, I don't care who's playing, like that
uniform is going for back to back, that there would
be more interests, more hoopla, Like like Yukon is winning
back to back championships.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Chris, and it's not a bit.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's not a big story, I bet you know what
I mean, Like, okay, they won, they won last year.
It would have been bigger and more pizazz, more sizzle,
more bacon, more extra cheese, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
It just seemed flat to me.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Even with Yukon winning and they won a number of championships,
they've won with three different coaches, they won over stretch
of what twenty five years, like they've won.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well, look, let's let's I mean we're talking about are
is North Carre or is Yukon of blue blood? Here's
the death I mean, it depends on how you define
blue blood. All right, here's what the dictionary says, membership
in a noble or socially prominent family.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
All right.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
In so is it based on you were one of
the great programs when basketball first, you know, college basketball
first got started, and your history, you know, historically you're
one of those top programs that would be UCLA. I
(21:01):
mean at some point North Carolina got in there and
then Duke, which you know, Duke got great when Shrzyzewski
got there in the nineties. They had a you know,
I remember they went to the championship in the seventies
against Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Kentucky obviously one of those But.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
If you're just going historically, no, Yukon was not a
powerhouse in the sixties seventies, or eighties.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
But over the last.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Thirty some odd years they have been not only a powerhouse,
they have been the greatest powerhouse. They've won six championships
in twenty five years, in the last twenty five years.
Rob they've won four in the last fifteen years. Ucla,
(21:50):
we can call them a blue blood all we want.
UCLA's basketball program is mediocre.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Still a blue blood?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Well, so what, but they're fine. I mean that doesn't matter.
If you're no good, you can't. You can't win the
championship since what ninety five?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
You can't. They can be it.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
They can have the title of blue blood. So what
they don't win? There's a how many period?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Chris?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
The Cowboys haven't won either since about the same amount
of time they are blue blood.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, but now boys are different. They haven't won.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
We're not talking about I mean, let's talk. Are the
Knicks of blue blood?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
And they never were? Why not? They were? Though?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
What they want to two hundred it's more than that
they want they want to c l A please.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I mean, you kN has won six in the last
twenty five hours.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
The way different wet blanket wins that wet blank blag
and what does that mean? Just there's nothing to it,
like they want me, there's nothing to it.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
There's no juice with you come. Winning a championship is juice.
They're being celebrated. This is one of the best runs
in Final n C Double A history. I get it
that the product is watered down, but it's water down
for them too.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Florida one two back to back, right, but they are
one they haven't won.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Okay, the winning back to back, they'll make you a
blue blood. I thought they were blue blood before last night.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I mean, they are a premier. They are only two
programs that have won more than them Ucla with eleven,
Kentucky with eight, and you can now tied with North
Carolina at six. I mean, look again, if you want
to throw around the title of blue blood at UCLA
at Indiana, have at it. Those programs are sorry now
(23:44):
they're weak.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
All right, I understand the history, but you champion.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
That's fine on the championship in twenty nine years.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
History still matters, and that's why I'm just saying, like
the numbers bear out, like where is the ukon love.
People should have been glued. Oh my god, they're gonna
win an it's not bad. They're gonna win again. Oh wow,
it's not bad, they're gonna win again. It just didn't
feel like that to me. Maybe you felt like, maybe
you felt something different about last night.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I just didn't. I feel like a lot of facts.
I wasn't going by my feeling.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I was going about the feelings, because that's when we're
talking about blue bloods.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It's a feelings that.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
You get all tingling inside when you think about UCLA basketball.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yes, I do, Wow, I need your easy to please
I am.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I mean a championship in thirty years. I need more
than that. I need one warm morning, zero championships in
twenty nine years to.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Get all warm and fussy inside.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Give me some production. I mean, come on, Indiana, Indiana
blue blood rap.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Indiana's a blue blood y'all.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
This a's ridiculous. It's just getting downright ridicul list all.
It's like Notre Dame in football. Sure it is great,
give me some top of us.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
But there are places that people are gonna watch just
because of the name and the uniform more so than
the people who are playing. It doesn't matter who got
through it and that U can. It don't matter they
could keep winning the non descript.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
People don't know the descript They've had great NBA players.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm talking about the you knowing about this one team.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I'm talking over the years.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yes, but Hamilton, I don't I got it.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
But I'm just saying that you can.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
For them to win back to back and six in
the last fifteen years and in.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
The twenty five years, four in the last four, not
more in there in fifteen years, the Indiana half period,
it just doesn't feel like there's any juice to it.
That's me, Yeah, that is you because I mean, my
good I'm about production. What if you're done for me lately?
Give me some Janet Jackson. That's what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 4 (26:15):
Man, I gotta be honest, I was surprised when I
saw this, as I'm sure many people were, if not most.
But Oj Simpson died today, seventy six years old of cancer, and.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Obviously, rob Oj.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Simpson, it's an understatement to say it's complicated. You know,
one of the greatest running backs of all time.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Was for the young people.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Rob they don't know and I get it, but they
may not understand how big he was.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Right, I'm not gonna say Lebron.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
James because I don't think he was as good as
Lebron James in.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
This sport, but he was at the in the seventies.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
OJ Simpson was in the conversation who's the best running
back of all time? It's either OJ or Jim Brown.
OJ was in all the commercials and was a crossover
god like crossover.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Oh, he went out of his way to crossover. No,
there's no doubt to where he was. I'm not to
where he he was. A famous quote that he wasn't black,
he was OJ. Is that what it was?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I think there was something in this Brentwood, California neighborhood. Yeah,
I don't remember the context, but somebody said, I know
there was a quote where he said during the time
of his trial or whatever, when blacks were out in
Brentwood trying to support him, he said something like, where
are these in woods?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
In words? What they doing here? Something like that. Crazy?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
But yeah, I mean I think I remember this stuff
from his documentary.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I don't know exactly, but O. J. Yeah, he he.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I mean I remember Rob when he did he did
Monday Night Football? Right, Was he the first African American
and commentator on Monday Night Football?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
He might have been. And I think he only did
it for a year or two.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Well I think he did more than a year, because
I think at first he came back, he did it,
and then he purposely took the base out of his
voice when he came back so he could sound more white.
I mean, you remember that, Rob, remember that he wanted
to sound more white. And but obviously beyond all that,
(28:48):
you know, he uh in most people's eyes, murdered.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Two people, including his ex wife.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
And the question, I mean, the question we have up here,
Rob is can you separate O. J. Simpson from these murders?
You know, whether you think he did them or not.
And the answer to me is a clear cut no.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I mean when you think of O. J.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Simpson, that is what's going to come to mind, regardless
of what side you stand on. And yeah, I mean
I I I remember Rob where you know, it's one
of those things when the White Bronco that he was
in and his friend AJ Cowlings I think was the
(29:42):
name former player teammate of his was driving the white
for Bronco. Yeah, with the ass with the rockets, and
the Knicks had a double box Chris. During the NBA Finals,
there was a double box. There was a game, and
and and Oj and al Cally.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
He was an absolute again legend.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
And I remember I was covering high school sports in
Cleveland at the time and just and and Rob at
least the people I talked to, and these were white people.
Most people thought he didn't you know, Initially, when he
was first made a suspect, peop were like, no way,
you know, it was just kind of like, Okay, they're
(30:29):
just doing their due diligence and all of that. And
then it became an incredibly polarizing trial that to some degree,
to some degree was split along racial lines to some degree,
I don't want to say completely, but I don't think
you can separate him rob at all from this.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
No.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And you know, you say it's complicated. I don't know
how complicated it is, Chris. I just think that when
you're involved in case like that, that's what you're remembered
for that no matter what he was, and I've said
this all the time he was acquitted, people don't want
to hear it. I'm not saying I'm not naive, Chris.
(31:13):
Do I think he was involved in this?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Did he lose the civil Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, but that's easy, just it's easier, right, easy, right
right in the criminal Yeah, it's beyond reasonable doubt and civil.
You don't have to hit those kind of market exactly. So,
I just think young old when you think of O Jay,
(31:40):
it ain't about his college career, and it ain't about
the hurts, commercials running through the airport. It ain't about
two thousand yards and rushing for the Buffalo bills.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's just not.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
It's always going to be and and that's why I
think there were people today Chris on Twitter, right, was
it magic as well?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Todd and and Magic John? They got an enormous pushback
from people. Yeah, go ahead, Rob you and explain what
happened on you. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
So they both were two of the very small minority
of public figures to put anything even close to condolences
to OJ Simpson. Let's start off Todd Gurley number one.
His his tweet out that was put out this morning says,
rip to the legendary O. J. Simpson, your favorite running
Back's favorite running back, appreciate you uncle, Oh Juice, you'll
(32:32):
be missed. Thanks for the past year being on. It
is what it is that podcast Heisman number one pick
n f L MVP, first ever two thousand yard rusher,
let alone to do it in fourteen games. The list
goes on and on, praying hands. Todd Gurley turned off
all replies to his tweet. That's how bad things got. Okay,
Magic Johnson, that was a pretty Yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
It was my favorable thing.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
But this, you know what, you know what you can
do in life, Chris, even in time of death. You
can't just keep praise on people when other things are
involved in there. It's like an obituary, Like you know,
you go to the New York Times obituary Chris OJ Simpson,
who was acquitted in a world famous double right, that's
(33:19):
what they say first, OJ Simpson, Rob G Kama, who
was acquitted in a famous double murder case with involving
his ex wife and another person. Whatever, was a great
NFL running back like that. The murder comes first, Yeah,
ain't no way around it.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Well, then listen to this one, Magic Johnson. Now this
might be the most innocuous tweet possible. And he still
found a way to get roasted Magic Johnson on Twitter.
Cookie and I are praying for oj Simpson's children are
now Aaron, Justin, Jason and Sidney and his grandchildren following
his passing. I know this is a very difficult time.
Let me just read you some of the comments from
(33:59):
this tweet. Yeah, a difficult time for the staff in
Hell arranging his arrival. You're kidding, right, Hell just got
a top draft pick. Ain't no prayers needed?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah? I mean, look, Magic's tweet wasn't even about Ojan,
it was about his family. There's nothing wrong with Magic's tweet.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
I mean, I hear obviously people you know, many, if
not most, people think he did commit these murders. And
I get people being upset and all the Magic's tweet
that that doesn't make OJ's children and and survivors guilty
of anything. And so I have no problem with Magic's tweet.
(34:41):
Todd gurleies is just straight naive. I mean, And how
old is was Todd Gurley? I mean he he was
probably a toddler when all this happened.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I agree, that's not necessarily he didn't see.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
That's not the but you know, he obviously I mean
it's just naive and I under you know you're gonna
get pushed back on that. I mean, he acted like
nothing ever, nothing else happened. It was just like a
football career, like a great football player. Just gotta be
like I said, Chris, you tell the whole story. We
talk about it all the time in life. You gotta
(35:19):
tell the whole story, the good, the bad, the indifferent.
Tom Brady and his obituary, Chris, they'll talk about the
flake Gate. They'll talk you know what I mean, Like
that'll be lower, it'll be much right, right, But I'm
just saying, but it'll be in there.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's all I'm saying. Everything you do, but that'll be low.
But this is when I'm gone, it's gonna be you know.
RG three is gonna be in my obituary.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I'm just saying, you know what I mean. No, no, Mike,
it will be in there. What do you mean it
will be in there. I'm just saying, everything you do
and there'll be a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Of good stuff, which I'll be happy about, Like I
work with you for you're happy about RG three.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
You know you love that
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