May 29, 2024 • 41 mins
Chris and Rob take Oklahoma City Thunder executive Sam Presti to task for essentially saying that it’s unreasonable to expect NBA players to play a full 82-game season, react to a wild breaking news story coming out of the New York Mets organization and tell us if the Minnesota Timberwolves have any realistic hope of coming back from down 0-3 to beat the Dallas Mavericks in the Western Conference Finals.
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Rob sam Presty who runs bast Operations in Oklahoma City,
and Rob you. Sam Presty is a great executive, fantastic executive. Obviously,
he built that team that never won a championship but
had Kevin Durant, James Harden and Russell Westbrook. All three
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went on to win MVP Awards. All three will be
first ballot Hall of Famers, and all three are just
terrific players, without question, and he drafted them all and
so you gotta give him credit for that. Obviously, Kad
might have been a no brainer because Greg Golden went first, right,
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remember that Rob in Seattle and Presty I didn't have
it go there in Seattle. I don't even know that
he was. I don't know that he was the one
in Seattle that drafted Durant. But Harden and Westbrook were
not no brainers. And then Rob that team breaks up.
You know, of course Durant leeds to go to Golden
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State and Westbrook eventually, you know, he stays, but is
eventually traded. Of course hard and left early when he
went to Houston to become a superstar. And now Rob
Sam Presty has rebuilt this thing again. You got he
he fleeced. Now it looks like fleets. I mean it
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really is a fleece because Paul George and Kawhi Leonard
couldn't stay healthy for the Clippers. But he did trade
Paul George in the deal that got him Shay Gilgers,
Alexander a lot of draft picks, and now he's built
around Shade Jalen Williams, great fine chet Holmgren. Look, I
think he's gonna be a star. And so they are
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at Rowland in Okay. See Rob, number one seed in
the West, got to the second round, youngest team ever
in the history of the league to win a playoff series.
So they got to the second round. And next year, Rob,
you know, I don't know that they could win it
next year, but they'll probably go, you know, they'll have
a chance to go a step further, and in a
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couple of years they'll probably be knocking on the door
and ready to maybe win a championship. And so he's
a great executive. And today or yesterday, he spoke to
the media, Rob, and I was surprised because Sam doesn't
really say a lot, you know, a lot of stuff
that's really controversial or newsworthy. But yesterday when he spoke
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to the media for two and a half hours, Rob,
he blamed three things. He said, the reason so many
of these stars, and you and I have talked about
it at nauseum, so many of these stars are hurt
in the playoffs. Rob, most teams, most teams have a
star player who is hurt. Let's go. I mean, we
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got the Knicks. Julius Randall was out Philadelphia. I won't
say and be because he played, but he was hurt.
Cavaliers lost, Donovan Mitchell, Pacers, Tyrese Halliburton, Milwaukee, Yiannis Ante
to Kumbo. That's not even to mention Dame miss in
the little heat, Jimmy Butler. That's five of the eight
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playoff teams in the East. We go to the West Nuggets.
I mean, you could mention Jamal Murray. We won't have
we won't banked up. He was banged up, right. The
West was a little better. Clippers, obviously, Kawhi, I think
just about every Obviously Phoenix had injuries throughout the year,
but not in the playoffs. Lucas played banged up for
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the Mavericks, Yeah, for the Pelicans. So so almost half
the playoff teams had lost a big time player or
and more than half either, you know, if you include
players that played through injury. And Sam Presty Rod blamed
it on three things. One was the NBA's new sixty
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five game rule, where you had them play, Hey, I'm
gonna let you. Just let me get through it. You
can go off. You know, where you had to play
at least sixty five games to be eligible for postseason awards.
Two was the in season tournament. We now remember they
didn't play any more games, but just the way I
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guess they were scheduled, he said, didn't give him as
much rest. And then three, the way you you heard this, Rob,
in the second half of the season, they the officials
let the players be more physical. And so he said,
those are the three things. Sixty five game rule, in season,
tournament change, and officiating to allow more physical play in
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the second half of the season. That is why so
many guys are hurting the playoffs. Rob Parker, your.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Thoughts, No, Sam Prusty stopping Chris?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Is this new?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
This has been going on for years now. Come on, Sam, really,
Kawhi Leonard, can we just just take a Chris? Is
it this year that Kawhi Lenz has been heard over
the last five years?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Or tournament?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
In any of those years, there were no tournament, There
was none of that. You're using it as an excuse
to ask somebody to play. Chris, sixty five out of
eighty two games is a crime. That's a that's a
oh my god, how can they play sixty five games?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Forget eighty two?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Chris out of three hundred and sixty five days a year.
You can't play sixty five games. Really, that's the reason
that they're heard. They have better everything, better doctors, better
training staffs, massages, Chris, everything better, better living conditions, better travel, accommodations.
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I mean, my god, everything is better. And this whole
No again, you didn't add more games, Chris, whether you
like the nd season tournament or not, they didn't add
ten games.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
They didn't make you play, nor did you play three
and three nights there you go or something right to
make extra back to backs. None of that.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And the idea too, that the playoffs, and the idea that,
my god, they actually let officials allow players to defend.
How my goodness, gracious, Chris, how awful is that?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
How are the player is going.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
To react if someone's actually trying to make a play
or stop at the end of the game and they
have to touch the other player?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Like, I just cannot that Sam Presty would let that
come out of his mouth as the reasons why is
total bs total.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Poppy cock? Yes, thank you, Google.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Googly goop, thanks and all of that other stuff, Chris,
None of it makes sense to me.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I agree, with you wholeheartedly. And Rob if Sam Presty
and he did say, Rob, g correct me if I'm wrong,
he has numbers to back it up, or at least
you know, he thinks back up what he's saying. But Rob,
if he believes this, then why are we playing eighty
two games? Basically, what you're saying is they can't play
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eighty two games anymore. That's what he's saying. If sixty
five games is too much, then forget about eighty two.
If the n season tournament which added no games is
too much, forget about eighty two. And they let you
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play a little physical. They played far more physical in
the nineties and early two thousands, and.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Those guys played. Chris, I don't have the numbers, and
we talk about it all.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
They played eighty games and year, oh my god, going
to a year thinking I'm gonna miss any games. Every
player's goal was eighty two games.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Chris and I talk about this all the time, and
this is no lie. When we were covering the league
as beat writers, did we ever, in our and our imaginations,
Chris go to the arena and go, I wonder if
Patrick Ewan's playing tonight, did you.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I wonder if it's gonna rest it's Kerry Kittle's playing tonight.
Like like Chris, you never thought about that. That was
not in our even even our thoughts. It wasn't even
in the players thoughts either or the coaches start. It
was not an issue whatsoever. And Rob, I'm serious and
I'm not. If Sam said these things, then what he
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was essentially saying is we can't play eighty two game
season anymore. And I'm telling you, Rob, and I don't
think that we've talked about it. They're not gonna cut
the games when they can sell eighty two games a year,
but you cannot. I'm sorry. It is disingenuous to have
eighty two games if you don't think your players can
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play it. Because Rob, what if the game I pick
to take my son to on his birthday and three
of his friends and I spend out shull out five
hundred dollars because I want to go see Shake Gilgers
Alexander and not today. He's resting because he can't. He's
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healthy as all get out, but he can't play the two.
It's not fair. Now, Sam Presty may not. I don't
know that he's right, but I'm just saying, and it's
odd to Rob because his team was a healthy team.
That was one of the reasons they were able to
have the best record in the West is because their starters,
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for the most part played Shake Gilgers played seventy three
five games, Jalen Williams seventy one one, Check Holger eighty two,
Josh Giddy eighty, Lou Dort seventy nine. So don't I
don't understand what Presty's talking about. And Rob, We've talked
about it with Carrie Kittles, how the game is so
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spread out now and players have to cover more ground defensively,
so it's tougher on the joints, and they just they
it makes sense. But Rob, we don't know. It's only
a theory that carry and maybe some others have. We
don't know if it's true or not because others. Antonio
Daniels thinks it's because they don't practice and play hard enough,
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they don't play enough games. He thinks it's the low
management is actually the reason they're getting hurt. I don't
know which one is right, but I'll tell you talk
about the league needs the league, Rob needs to do
their best to get to the bottom.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Of it, right, And we talked about Chris all the
offseason workouts and the trainers and like the year round
stuff that maybe it's just too much.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Maybe it's that stuff like guds.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Right, they don't get their bodies arrest, they don't give
their bodies a rest, and they feel like if they're
not doing something in the offseason, like they're cheating somebody.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's okay, now, there's no question about that. I agree
with you, and so I don't know what the reason is.
Those are some theories that we've thrown out there, and
others have thrown out as well. But I tell you
what Sam Pressey's saying, Rob. To me, this comes off
like eighty two games is just too much, And I
don't think that's fair to expect fans to pay top
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dollar to get in the games. And yet they're the
best players are are penciled in for fifteen law missus.
Forget getting hurt, that'll be another fifteen or whatever. But
they're penciled in for fifteen. So and again I don't
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put it all on the players, Rob. I've talked about it.
A lot of this is team training stats, so we'll
see it's interesting. But I think the league needs to
do what it can to get to the bottom, and
I do, Rob. I don't think reporters should settle for
we don't know. I mean they need to figure this
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out because you don't want your most important games having
your best players be out, Rob. The Celtics run to
the finals is the easiest cake walk I can recall
in the playoffs. I might be missing one or two,
but off the top of my head, I can't recall
an easier keke guard. Whether the three teams you beat
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to get to the finals all were missing their best
player for at least half of the series.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yep, and chuse the other other one people talk about
always as the Warriors their first championship. Three of the
point guards were all out on those teams, all right,
every starting point that was nut.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
They still had to get through Lebron Jays. But what
I'm gonna say that but they did it. Yeah, they
did have. They did have. That made it a little easier,
no doubt, all right. Eight seven seven ninety nine on
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Was the nd season tournament, the sixty five game rule,
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the season. Are those the reasons why there were so
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just to underscore the difference in playing style. They the
last dance is on, So I got my TV on.
Obviously no games on the night, and it's on ESPN.
They were showing one of the games from the finals,
nineteen ninety seven Finals between the Bulls and the Jazz.
Seventy eight seventy three was the final score. That's like
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sometimes a halftime score in some of these, you know,
not a lot, but occasionally you might get a halftime
score like that nowadays, so a lot different eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. You're turning the way in
with Sam Presty Wright sixty five game rule. More physical
play in the second half of the season and the
end season tournament are why players were getting hurt in
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this postseason. Your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
All right, MJ in New walland join the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
What's up, MJ?
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Happy worship Wins. How you guys doing.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
We're great man, Happy worship winneresday to you, bro, same time?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
All right, So love I heard called me Chris my guy.
Professor Robb said that Sam Preston was a great exect
so I have to say, he's not cloud chasing all
in the video, all on the records to answer, you
gotta let him speak at peace. Now now playing eighty
two games, I'm surprised the governments have an added in
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games like they did in the NFL. I have, uh,
you know, I listened to a lot of different podcasts
or what and I've heard from some doctors from sports
doctors say because of the movement and covering more of
the floor with the floor being spaced, that there are
are a lot of soft issue of injuries and there's
not a lot of two and three of days like
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back in the day. And then Chris used to play
under rob player softball, so I'm not sure how that went.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, the.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Yeah, well he did. He did have the ball shop,
so they always said checkers in the ball and shops.
So I mean you have to kind of kind of
take it how it is. I mean, you you had
guys or you have guys that's hurt every season, and
you have to kind of look at that. It can't
just be one thing. And just like in football, these
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offensive linements they don't even get a chance to jail
with each other because there's no more three days two
of days, the game is changed. Yeah, I love Michael
Jordan and the Bulls and all that. Those days are
over with not getting the Carl and the towns of
the post like that. It's just.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
We don't want eighty five eighty two games anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I don't think Rob does either. I mean, I'm not
I'm not clamoring for a return to yesterdyear in that regard.
But what I am saying is, I don't know that
you can have a schedule where you're you know, the
players can't play and they're not even capable of playing
in all the games. Because I'm down, you know.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
I'm like, I'm down here in New Orleans, man. And
I witnessed the game when Dan DICKYU played had Or
White Chats started for the Hornets one night. That's the
same night d Wayne wasn't supposed to play, the first
time I saw d Wade play. So I mean, it happens, man.
I mean, I would hate to spend money and not
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see you know, a KD or Kyrie or whatever. But
it's happening. We can cry about it, but that's just something.
It is not Jordan's That's not Kobe's out there. This
is a different game different times. My thing is this,
You're not getting paid for hot dogs and in being
in the stadiums anymore. If the TV money, so, I mean,
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I guess it's best for you to check and see
who's going to be at the games that you take
to your kid. You know, it is what it is,
all right?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I'm Jay.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, I mean things have changed. We got that, and
I'm with you. I'm not trying to go back to yesteryear.
I just I just want people, if Chris, if they
don't want to play all the games or whatever, just
give people their money back.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
If if I that's all Chris.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
If I go to the game and I pay to
see a player and they're not hurt, okay, and they're resting,
I just want my money back.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Can we do that? If I could get my money
back on that, I know. But if I could get
my money back on that, I tell you all the time.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You go to a Broadway show, because you could go
to the box office if the understudy and say, I
want to change these for tickets when the star is there, right,
I don't want to see the I don't want to
see the understudy.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I think if they cut, and Mark Cuban talked about
this too, if they cut the season of sixty between
sixty and sixty five games, each game would mean more.
You spread out the schedule and eventually, if not right away,
you could charge more money for the tickets because each
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game would mean more and a borrowing injury, you figure
the stars are gonna be there and play, and if
the theory is correct, Rob, then not as many guys
would be getting hurt because you're playing fewer games, even
though you know you're covering more ground. As we were saying, So,
I mean, I know they're not gonna cut it, but
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I'm just saying, right.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Let's go to Kyle in Virginia Beach. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
What's up, Kyle?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Oh yeah, Hey, just another day. So I think Sam
Presci is trying to speak in the moment on recency
bias and not really on like you guys talked about
with Qui Letard within the last five years, because honestly,
y'all nailed it, I think, and I tried first time.
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One of the first times I called in was trying
to talking Tuesday about the trainers over to like not
giving these guys breast. Part of being a you know,
world clide athlete is active recovery. And I don't think
they're recovering the way they used to cold because they're
not taking that time in the hall season to give themselves,
you know, a moment to breathe, a moment to go
to Cabo or sometime with family.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Go to Venice.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Let you let your body heal, right, let your he
And they do it a lot of times because obviously
they do go on vacations, but a lot of times
they work out on the vacation. Yes, get a couple
of hours.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
What human being goes on vacation does their drop while
they're on vacation? And another thing is like, I mean
I co tries colbasketball. The kids that consistently got bad
angles and bad knees. When the season ends, we tell
our varsity guys, hey takes one weeks, a few weeks off.
I know you don't want to a US coming up,
but take some weeks off, just two or three. Yeah,
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the kids who listen, they come back there. The kids
who can dunk, they're jumping out the gym. They're not
just fairly dunking because they're neither hurt anymore. The kids
who don't listen, they're in the training room and they're
they're at the the kids hospital, and it's like, why
don't you just listen to them? That that pat A.
I think it starts with our culture at AU development
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and that's filtering to the NBA. Well, it's filtering from
the NBA team the college coaches. They want to see
you what your best. You know, they don't want to
see you at your first A tournaments. They want to
see you on the circuit and this this is the
time of year where they really want to see you.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
It's a good call. And Rob that he mentioned our
culture and it's true really in everything. I mean, Rob,
I know you didn't have kids, but you know, I'm
sure like kids are busy nowadays. There are some parents
they're kids, you know, one day there in hockey, the
next day there in another sport. Then they got piano,
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they got like they're always in these various classes. It's
almost like you feel like you have to for your
kid to stay, you know, even with everybody else. And
it's the same in sports, you know. So I mean,
I know when our kids in the summers, you know,
a cad we had them do a little tutoring and
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or you know, get tutoring a few things. But I
was always like, look, let them have some summer off.
Like when Rob I had summers. I didn't do anything
academic in the summer, right, Like nothing we played, were
playing baseball, basketball, football, We were out having fun for
three months, all right. And now you got kids getting
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tutored and almost like they're in school. And I get it.
I mean, maybe I'm speaking out of turn because academically
America is not where it used to be and we
need to catch up to some of the rest of
the world too, But I just think it's all it's
not just sports. We are dropped. We like we are
cultures like go go go, go, go, go, go, go
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go at everything you know, and sometimes you need to rest.
They say, even God rested on day seven, right right, No,
you have to you have to rest.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
And I think people have gotten carried away, Chris with
trying to impress people about the work that they're putting
in and all that. And it's okay, I understand people
want you to work hard. You know, I work hard, Chris,
but you gotta get off your feed. You gotta relax
once in a while, you know what I mean, in
order for your body to recharge.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Otherwise it's going to break down. That's what happens. Yeah,
all right, it's the odd couple. Keep it locked. Fox
Sports Radio. Here's Nick Cope with the update. Nick, all right,
thank you guys.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
We got Game four of the Western Conference Final going
on in Edmonton two to two at the end of
the first period, as the Stars have a two to
one series lead. So one started great for Dallas. They
had two goals in the first six minutes, but Edmonton
came back.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
The Oilers were able to power their way through the middle.
Here's du Jannompkins off a check. McDavid spree a shot.
Did I reabot stored in? This game is tied David.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
Buch Shard sliding back door Popsier do back in that
Edmondson is tide two two. That's courtesy of the Oilers
Radio network. To the NBA, where the Clippers and coach
tylu have agreed on a five year deal worth seventy million,
one of the highest paid coaches in the league. Wizards
have removed the interim tag from coach Brian Keith, making
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him their full time head coach. ESPN reports the Cavaliers
have been given permission to interview Warrior's assistant Kenny Atkinson
and pelicans'sistant James Barrego. Barrego also reportedly interviewed with the
Lakers today. The Jefferson County DA's office in Kentucky has
dropped all charges against Scotnie Scheffler related to the incident
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prior to the second round of the PGA Championship a
couple weeks ago. In the NFL, the forty nine Ers
re signed receiver Juwan Jennings to a two year deal
worth up to fifteen point four million, ten and a
half million of that in guaranteed. And in baseball, guys,
what a day for the Mets. Edwin Diaz placed on
the injured list. Pete Alonso came out of today's loss
(26:32):
to the Dodgers taking a pitch off his hand. They've
lost fifteen of their last nineteen games. And Rob, I
don't know if you saw this, but Mets reliever Jorge
Lopez gave up a two run homer to Otani. Next,
that bat doesn't get a call on a check swing,
barks at the third base umpire, gets ejected, throws his
glove into the stands on the way off the field.
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After the game, In the postgame press conference, Lopez was
asked did he regret his actions.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
I don't. I don't regret it. I think I've been
looking the worst team in probably in the whole MLB. So,
you know, whatever happened happened. So whatever they want to
do it, I'll be tomorrow here if they want me,
you know, whatever they want to do.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
So it does not sound like the Mets want him
to be around. Reports are the Mets are going to
designate Lopez for assignment.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You can't what what is he so? What did he
just say?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I mean, unbelievable and you can't throw your glove into
the stands?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Unprofessional? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Yeah, So there was some confusion that did Lopez say
he was on the worst team or he was the
worst teammate and apparently Lopez later explained his comments a
combination of both. He's the worst teammate on the worst team.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
So hey, he's not nice.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Sounds like you said, may sound like morale, Yes, he
sounds like he said he was on the worst team.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
That's how I heard it, but apparently some people just
wanted to make sure, so he said, hey, it's both.
I'm I'm having a horrible time here and we're all
having a horrible time.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
So robb G, can you help us with the Spanish?
Did I miss something? That's gotta be What did you
speak Spanish?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Robbing a drop? Right now? That's not quickly Spanish? I
can there we go? Thank you? I can speak enough
to get by, yes, all right, But what did we
say every every Mexican. I didn't say that. I didn't
say that. Stop. That's got to stop. Stop. I'm the
(28:44):
least racist guy in the world. I think you wanted
your time. Yeah, let me just hear one more time.
I want you to listen.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
I think I've been looking the worst demon probably the
whole MLB.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So that wasn't Spanish at all? Spanish?
Speaker 9 (29:05):
And what she said, oh my gosh, he had an
accent all of a sudden, it's a different language.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Have you heard yourself talk? Rob What was more like
e bonics? Right? The Spanish? I didn't understand the word
he said before the worst? What was that word? One
more time? What did he say right before the worst? Look?
Speaker 8 (29:31):
I think I've been looking the worst team in the whole.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I've been looking the worst team and probably the whole.
Did he say the worst team on the worst teammate?
Maybe the worst team?
Speaker 9 (29:43):
I think on Twitter it's saying team. Everyone's attributing him
saying I'm looking at the worst.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
I mean, he just it's his second language, and he
he was asked just to make sure, and he said
he said both. He's like, I'm the worst teammate and
this is the worst team.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Wow, he ain't lying, no, no, but you know you
can't say that, and he won't be an ex New
York Met tomorrow.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
I'll tell you what Rob this is. I mean, that
was kind of funny, but we've had this conversation before.
These international guys, even if it is the second language,
they're much more honest than the American in every sport. Yes,
so it is refreshing to hear a guy like, no,
you know, we suck and this team sucks and I
suck and we're having fun.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Get me out of you right, real right, and you
will be out of there. Don't worry about it, no doubt.
He won't be on the Mets tomorrow. All right. Well,
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The Timberwolves, of course, won last night and now they
are down three to one, trying to become the first
team ever in the history of the NBA to rally
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from a three to zero deficit to win. Do you
give them any chance to do that?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I do not.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I think that they could win another game or so,
but I don't think that they can win the series.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, it's obviously an uphill battle. That's an understatement. You know,
it's been close. I do think if you know a
lot of people say rob is gonna happen at some point,
not necessarily, Well, it happen. It happened with the Yankees
and Red Sox. Don't forget that.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
That's baseball too. I mean, that was but it's happened when.
But it had never happened in baseball, Chris, is what
I'm saying. It had never happened before that a team
coming back.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
From down three.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
And if you remember, I always say this, I can't
I need to look up the score, but the Yankees
beat the Red Sox something like sixteen to four.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Chris, remember that in Game three that was in Boston.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
They demolished them right uh and and so people thought, oh,
the series is over.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
They look at what they just did.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
They just destroyed the Red Sox at Fenway. There's no
way that they can come back and win.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
And what happened. They won the next four games, I think,
And it doesn't happen much. Is that the only time
it's happening us? Yeah, that's what I'm gonna saying. It
never happens much on baseball, But I think it's easier
to not easy, but baseball. I could see it happening
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more than in basketball because of the importance of pitching.
Right if you gets hot and the other teams in
the slump, you know it just they could control the series.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
That's why it's not in baseball, because it's all about
your starting pitching. Chris, you could get demolished one day
if the next guy in the mound throws a gem.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
It doesn't matter what happened, Like it could happen one time.
You know, it could happen at some point in basketball.
I'm just saying I don't agree with the statement that
a lot of people make. It's gonna happen at some point.
Not necessarily maybe, but maybe not. But if it's going
to happen, Rob this is probably the best case scenario
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in that Okay, you're down three to zero, you win
Game four, so now it's three to one and you're
going home. It's not like you won, I think with
the Lakers. Yeah, with the Lakers, they won Game four
against Denver, but then went on back to Denver, you
know what I mean, and it was over. So now
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the Timberwolves at least are at home, and look they lost.
They're zero and two at home in this series and
they lost too. What two of the three games in
Minnesota to Denver. So that may not be an advantage,
but you know, you think it is because you're at home,
so you're going home if you win that, and I
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give them a chance, I'm gonna pick them tomorrow and
we'll see, you know, if they can deliver. But then
Game six, Rob, that is the pivotal one. Certainly, if
Minnesota wins Game six doesn't mean they're gonna win the series.
Remember a year ago, Miami was up three to zero
on Boston. Boston went the next three, and everybody thinks,
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or everybody thought, Rob entering that series, that Boston was
the better team. So when they won those three in
a row to force game seven, and they were at
home for Game seven, you thought, we all thought, right,
Boston's winning this thing, and they lost. So you mentioned
no momentum in baseball. You know a lot of these
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playoff games, Rob, it seems like momentum is not. It
just it's every game is its own entity, and I
honestly that's how Minnesota has to look at it. Obviously,
it's it's unlikely that they do it, but you know,
they got to take it one game out of time,
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and the key last night, rober Karl Anthy Towns finally
showed up. This is an evenly matched series. The eight
points separate the two teams, and the difference is that
Luca and Kyrie have played well, or at least played
well in the first three games, and Anthony Edwards and
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especially Carl Anthony Towns hadn't played well in the first
three games, and last night it was reversed. So it's
hard to imagine Luke and Kyrie struggling in another game,
or certainly in two straight, you know, to the next
two games and stuff like that. But to try to
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counter that, Rob Cat, I think Anthony Edwards. I mean, look,
he's young, he may have he may be up and
down a little. But to counter the likelihood that Kyrie
and Luca play well in the next game, you need
Anthony Edwards and Carl Anthony Towns to be at their best.
They gotta play well, and Rob they Towns did not
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play well and they still were close in those first
three games. So he's got to bring it every single
game going forward.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, I hear you, and the you would think so
going home, right that they should feel good, But you
brought it up already. They really haven't performed well, Chris,
in the last two series at home after getting off
to a great start. So that's worrisome that you can
beat them on their own court, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
That is definitely worrisome. And I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
If you're counting on another bad shooting night by Luca
or Kyrie, the chances are not really good that both
of them will be.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Down, you know what I mean. And you don't have to.
You don't need both to beat to win.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
You just need one of those guys and then the
other one to be decent, not great, and they still
have a shot to win.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
So I think it's a daunting task. It's not impossible.
But I believe that the Mavericks finish them off, Chris.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I really do, because I just think maybe they got
carried away with being up three to zero and all
that and.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Thinking that they had leeway.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
But once you let a tea back into a series,
and if they win that game game five, I think
you're asking for trouble. And the idea that you can't
that the other team can't get back in it is
not that far fetched.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
No, no, no question about it. And also Rob, and
I know obviously Dallas does not want to look ahead.
But the longer, even if they win the series, say
in six or seven games, the longer this series goes,
the more chance of someone on your team getting hurt
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for the finals. Right, like Lucas already, I mean, I
don't know what where the knees at at this point.
It doesn't even seem to be an issue, but maybe
the knees still bothering me. Maybe you know, he could
use some extra rest. Derek Lively already got hurt, and
that's a big that was a big factor last night, Rob.
Derek Lively was plus twenty two in the series. That
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was the most of that was the highest plus minus
of any player in the series in the first three games, Rob,
So he was important. And you saw last night one
of the things that got Karl Anthony Towns going was
he was driving to the basket and he kept you
attacking the rim more than he had in those first
three games. And so you know that kind of helped
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him get going. And maybe that doesn't happen if Lively's there.
So that's just an example of how any extra game
you play, a player could get hurt and now you
might be shorthanded. Going into Boston or that those finals.
So yeah, I mean it's interesting because it is an
evenly matched series. I don't think Dallas is like definitively
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better than Minnesota. I think they got the best player
in Luca, and at this point you could argue the
second best player in Kyrie. So obviously that's a big advantage.
But you know, we will see how how it goes.
But yeah, you're right, Dallas gotta try to close them out.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
They really it goes to six, then, you know, then
it really gets interesting roun yep, And and uh, I
think what was your original pick? Minnesota and seven? Six
and six? Okay, so they can't do that, No, I'm
just curious. I thought you said seven. But then again,
that would have been winning game seven at home. All yeah,
so you had them in six, okay? Uh yeah, I
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just I don't see it happening. I don't I just
don't have that field, Chris. But but tonight's game is
a big game in the series. You just don't want
to let them get back in yep.
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Rob sam Presty who runs bast Operations in Oklahoma City,
and Rob you. Sam Presty is a great executive, fantastic executive. Obviously,
he built that team that never won a championship but
had Kevin Durant, James Harden and Russell Westbrook. All three
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went on to win MVP Awards. All three will be
first ballot Hall of Famers, and all three are just
terrific players, without question, and he drafted them all and
so you gotta give him credit for that. Obviously, Kad
might have been a no brainer because Greg Golden went first, right,
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remember that Rob in Seattle and Presty I didn't have
it go there in Seattle. I don't even know that
he was. I don't know that he was the one
in Seattle that drafted Durant. But Harden and Westbrook were
not no brainers. And then Rob that team breaks up.
You know, of course Durant leeds to go to Golden
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State and Westbrook eventually, you know, he stays, but is
eventually traded. Of course hard and left early when he
went to Houston to become a superstar. And now Rob
Sam Presty has rebuilt this thing again. You got he
he fleeced. Now it looks like fleets. I mean it
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really is a fleece because Paul George and Kawhi Leonard
couldn't stay healthy for the Clippers. But he did trade
Paul George in the deal that got him Shay Gilgers,
Alexander a lot of draft picks, and now he's built
around Shade Jalen Williams, great fine chet Holmgren. Look, I
think he's gonna be a star. And so they are
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at Rowland in Okay. See Rob, number one seed in
the West, got to the second round, youngest team ever
in the history of the league to win a playoff series.
So they got to the second round. And next year, Rob,
you know, I don't know that they could win it
next year, but they'll probably go, you know, they'll have
a chance to go a step further, and in a
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couple of years they'll probably be knocking on the door
and ready to maybe win a championship. And so he's
a great executive. And today or yesterday, he spoke to
the media, Rob, and I was surprised because Sam doesn't
really say a lot, you know, a lot of stuff
that's really controversial or newsworthy. But yesterday when he spoke
(03:28):
to the media for two and a half hours, Rob,
he blamed three things. He said, the reason so many
of these stars, and you and I have talked about
it at nauseum, so many of these stars are hurt
in the playoffs. Rob, most teams, most teams have a
star player who is hurt. Let's go. I mean, we
(03:51):
got the Knicks. Julius Randall was out Philadelphia. I won't
say and be because he played, but he was hurt.
Cavaliers lost, Donovan Mitchell, Pacers, Tyrese Halliburton, Milwaukee, Yiannis Ante
to Kumbo. That's not even to mention Dame miss in
the little heat, Jimmy Butler. That's five of the eight
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playoff teams in the East. We go to the West Nuggets.
I mean, you could mention Jamal Murray. We won't have
we won't banked up. He was banged up, right. The
West was a little better. Clippers, obviously, Kawhi, I think
just about every Obviously Phoenix had injuries throughout the year,
but not in the playoffs. Lucas played banged up for
(04:33):
the Mavericks, Yeah, for the Pelicans. So so almost half
the playoff teams had lost a big time player or
and more than half either, you know, if you include
players that played through injury. And Sam Presty Rod blamed
it on three things. One was the NBA's new sixty
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five game rule, where you had them play, Hey, I'm
gonna let you. Just let me get through it. You
can go off. You know, where you had to play
at least sixty five games to be eligible for postseason awards.
Two was the in season tournament. We now remember they
didn't play any more games, but just the way I
(05:14):
guess they were scheduled, he said, didn't give him as
much rest. And then three, the way you you heard this, Rob,
in the second half of the season, they the officials
let the players be more physical. And so he said,
those are the three things. Sixty five game rule, in season,
tournament change, and officiating to allow more physical play in
(05:37):
the second half of the season. That is why so
many guys are hurting the playoffs. Rob Parker, your.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Thoughts, No, Sam Prusty stopping Chris?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Is this new?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
This has been going on for years now. Come on, Sam, really,
Kawhi Leonard, can we just just take a Chris? Is
it this year that Kawhi Lenz has been heard over
the last five years?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Or tournament?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
In any of those years, there were no tournament, There
was none of that. You're using it as an excuse
to ask somebody to play. Chris, sixty five out of
eighty two games is a crime. That's a that's a
oh my god, how can they play sixty five games?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Forget eighty two?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Chris out of three hundred and sixty five days a year.
You can't play sixty five games. Really, that's the reason
that they're heard. They have better everything, better doctors, better
training staffs, massages, Chris, everything better, better living conditions, better travel, accommodations.
(06:54):
I mean, my god, everything is better. And this whole
No again, you didn't add more games, Chris, whether you
like the nd season tournament or not, they didn't add
ten games.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
They didn't make you play, nor did you play three
and three nights there you go or something right to
make extra back to backs. None of that.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And the idea too, that the playoffs, and the idea that,
my god, they actually let officials allow players to defend.
How my goodness, gracious, Chris, how awful is that?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
How are the player is going.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
To react if someone's actually trying to make a play
or stop at the end of the game and they
have to touch the other player?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Like, I just cannot that Sam Presty would let that
come out of his mouth as the reasons why is
total bs total.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Poppy cock? Yes, thank you, Google.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Googly goop, thanks and all of that other stuff, Chris,
None of it makes sense to me.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I agree, with you wholeheartedly. And Rob if Sam Presty
and he did say, Rob, g correct me if I'm wrong,
he has numbers to back it up, or at least
you know, he thinks back up what he's saying. But Rob,
if he believes this, then why are we playing eighty
two games? Basically, what you're saying is they can't play
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eighty two games anymore. That's what he's saying. If sixty
five games is too much, then forget about eighty two.
If the n season tournament which added no games is
too much, forget about eighty two. And they let you
(08:49):
play a little physical. They played far more physical in
the nineties and early two thousands, and.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Those guys played. Chris, I don't have the numbers, and
we talk about it all.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
They played eighty games and year, oh my god, going
to a year thinking I'm gonna miss any games. Every
player's goal was eighty two games.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Chris and I talk about this all the time, and
this is no lie. When we were covering the league
as beat writers, did we ever, in our and our imaginations,
Chris go to the arena and go, I wonder if
Patrick Ewan's playing tonight, did you.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I wonder if it's gonna rest it's Kerry Kittle's playing tonight.
Like like Chris, you never thought about that. That was
not in our even even our thoughts. It wasn't even
in the players thoughts either or the coaches start. It
was not an issue whatsoever. And Rob, I'm serious and
I'm not. If Sam said these things, then what he
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was essentially saying is we can't play eighty two game
season anymore. And I'm telling you, Rob, and I don't
think that we've talked about it. They're not gonna cut
the games when they can sell eighty two games a year,
but you cannot. I'm sorry. It is disingenuous to have
eighty two games if you don't think your players can
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play it. Because Rob, what if the game I pick
to take my son to on his birthday and three
of his friends and I spend out shull out five
hundred dollars because I want to go see Shake Gilgers
Alexander and not today. He's resting because he can't. He's
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healthy as all get out, but he can't play the two.
It's not fair. Now, Sam Presty may not. I don't
know that he's right, but I'm just saying, and it's
odd to Rob because his team was a healthy team.
That was one of the reasons they were able to
have the best record in the West is because their starters,
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for the most part played Shake Gilgers played seventy three
five games, Jalen Williams seventy one one, Check Holger eighty two,
Josh Giddy eighty, Lou Dort seventy nine. So don't I
don't understand what Presty's talking about. And Rob, We've talked
about it with Carrie Kittles, how the game is so
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spread out now and players have to cover more ground defensively,
so it's tougher on the joints, and they just they
it makes sense. But Rob, we don't know. It's only
a theory that carry and maybe some others have. We
don't know if it's true or not because others. Antonio
Daniels thinks it's because they don't practice and play hard enough,
(11:36):
they don't play enough games. He thinks it's the low
management is actually the reason they're getting hurt. I don't
know which one is right, but I'll tell you talk
about the league needs the league, Rob needs to do
their best to get to the bottom.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Of it, right, And we talked about Chris all the
offseason workouts and the trainers and like the year round
stuff that maybe it's just too much.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Maybe it's that stuff like guds.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Right, they don't get their bodies arrest, they don't give
their bodies a rest, and they feel like if they're
not doing something in the offseason, like they're cheating somebody.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's okay, now, there's no question about that. I agree
with you, and so I don't know what the reason is.
Those are some theories that we've thrown out there, and
others have thrown out as well. But I tell you
what Sam Pressey's saying, Rob. To me, this comes off
like eighty two games is just too much, And I
don't think that's fair to expect fans to pay top
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dollar to get in the games. And yet they're the
best players are are penciled in for fifteen law missus.
Forget getting hurt, that'll be another fifteen or whatever. But
they're penciled in for fifteen. So and again I don't
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put it all on the players, Rob. I've talked about it.
A lot of this is team training stats, so we'll
see it's interesting. But I think the league needs to
do what it can to get to the bottom, and
I do, Rob. I don't think reporters should settle for
we don't know. I mean they need to figure this
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out because you don't want your most important games having
your best players be out, Rob. The Celtics run to
the finals is the easiest cake walk I can recall
in the playoffs. I might be missing one or two,
but off the top of my head, I can't recall
an easier keke guard. Whether the three teams you beat
(13:41):
to get to the finals all were missing their best
player for at least half of the series.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yep, and chuse the other other one people talk about
always as the Warriors their first championship. Three of the
point guards were all out on those teams, all right,
every starting point that was nut.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
They still had to get through Lebron Jays. But what
I'm gonna say that but they did it. Yeah, they
did have. They did have. That made it a little easier,
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just to underscore the difference in playing style. They the
last dance is on, So I got my TV on.
Obviously no games on the night, and it's on ESPN.
They were showing one of the games from the finals,
nineteen ninety seven Finals between the Bulls and the Jazz.
Seventy eight seventy three was the final score. That's like
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sometimes a halftime score in some of these, you know,
not a lot, but occasionally you might get a halftime
score like that nowadays, so a lot different eight seven
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play in the second half of the season and the
end season tournament are why players were getting hurt in
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Speaker 6 (16:31):
Happy worship Wins. How you guys doing.
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We're great man, Happy worship winneresday to you, bro, same time?
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All right, So love I heard called me Chris my guy.
Professor Robb said that Sam Preston was a great exect
so I have to say, he's not cloud chasing all
in the video, all on the records to answer, you
gotta let him speak at peace. Now now playing eighty
two games, I'm surprised the governments have an added in
(17:01):
games like they did in the NFL. I have, uh,
you know, I listened to a lot of different podcasts
or what and I've heard from some doctors from sports
doctors say because of the movement and covering more of
the floor with the floor being spaced, that there are
are a lot of soft issue of injuries and there's
not a lot of two and three of days like
(17:21):
back in the day. And then Chris used to play
under rob player softball, so I'm not sure how that went.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, the.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Yeah, well he did. He did have the ball shop,
so they always said checkers in the ball and shops.
So I mean you have to kind of kind of
take it how it is. I mean, you you had
guys or you have guys that's hurt every season, and
you have to kind of look at that. It can't
just be one thing. And just like in football, these
(17:50):
offensive linements they don't even get a chance to jail
with each other because there's no more three days two
of days, the game is changed. Yeah, I love Michael
Jordan and the Bulls and all that. Those days are
over with not getting the Carl and the towns of
the post like that. It's just.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
We don't want eighty five eighty two games anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I don't think Rob does either. I mean, I'm not
I'm not clamoring for a return to yesterdyear in that regard.
But what I am saying is, I don't know that
you can have a schedule where you're you know, the
players can't play and they're not even capable of playing
in all the games. Because I'm down, you know.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
I'm like, I'm down here in New Orleans, man. And
I witnessed the game when Dan DICKYU played had Or
White Chats started for the Hornets one night. That's the
same night d Wayne wasn't supposed to play, the first
time I saw d Wade play. So I mean, it happens, man.
I mean, I would hate to spend money and not
(18:55):
see you know, a KD or Kyrie or whatever. But
it's happening. We can cry about it, but that's just something.
It is not Jordan's That's not Kobe's out there. This
is a different game different times. My thing is this,
You're not getting paid for hot dogs and in being
in the stadiums anymore. If the TV money, so, I mean,
(19:16):
I guess it's best for you to check and see
who's going to be at the games that you take
to your kid. You know, it is what it is,
all right?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I'm Jay.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, I mean things have changed. We got that, and
I'm with you. I'm not trying to go back to yesteryear.
I just I just want people, if Chris, if they
don't want to play all the games or whatever, just
give people their money back.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
If if I that's all Chris.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
If I go to the game and I pay to
see a player and they're not hurt, okay, and they're resting,
I just want my money back.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Can we do that? If I could get my money
back on that, I know. But if I could get
my money back on that, I tell you all the time.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You go to a Broadway show, because you could go
to the box office if the understudy and say, I
want to change these for tickets when the star is there, right,
I don't want to see the I don't want to
see the understudy.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I think if they cut, and Mark Cuban talked about
this too, if they cut the season of sixty between
sixty and sixty five games, each game would mean more.
You spread out the schedule and eventually, if not right away,
you could charge more money for the tickets because each
(20:30):
game would mean more and a borrowing injury, you figure
the stars are gonna be there and play, and if
the theory is correct, Rob, then not as many guys
would be getting hurt because you're playing fewer games, even
though you know you're covering more ground. As we were saying, So,
I mean, I know they're not gonna cut it, but
(20:51):
I'm just saying, right.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Let's go to Kyle in Virginia Beach. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
What's up, Kyle?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Oh yeah, Hey, just another day. So I think Sam
Presci is trying to speak in the moment on recency
bias and not really on like you guys talked about
with Qui Letard within the last five years, because honestly,
y'all nailed it, I think, and I tried first time.
(21:24):
One of the first times I called in was trying
to talking Tuesday about the trainers over to like not
giving these guys breast. Part of being a you know,
world clide athlete is active recovery. And I don't think
they're recovering the way they used to cold because they're
not taking that time in the hall season to give themselves,
you know, a moment to breathe, a moment to go
to Cabo or sometime with family.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Go to Venice.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Let you let your body heal, right, let your he
And they do it a lot of times because obviously
they do go on vacations, but a lot of times
they work out on the vacation. Yes, get a couple
of hours.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
What human being goes on vacation does their drop while
they're on vacation? And another thing is like, I mean
I co tries colbasketball. The kids that consistently got bad
angles and bad knees. When the season ends, we tell
our varsity guys, hey takes one weeks, a few weeks off.
I know you don't want to a US coming up,
but take some weeks off, just two or three. Yeah,
(22:21):
the kids who listen, they come back there. The kids
who can dunk, they're jumping out the gym. They're not
just fairly dunking because they're neither hurt anymore. The kids
who don't listen, they're in the training room and they're
they're at the the kids hospital, and it's like, why
don't you just listen to them? That that pat A.
I think it starts with our culture at AU development
(22:43):
and that's filtering to the NBA. Well, it's filtering from
the NBA team the college coaches. They want to see
you what your best. You know, they don't want to
see you at your first A tournaments. They want to
see you on the circuit and this this is the
time of year where they really want to see you.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
It's a good call. And Rob that he mentioned our
culture and it's true really in everything. I mean, Rob,
I know you didn't have kids, but you know, I'm
sure like kids are busy nowadays. There are some parents
they're kids, you know, one day there in hockey, the
next day there in another sport. Then they got piano,
(23:19):
they got like they're always in these various classes. It's
almost like you feel like you have to for your
kid to stay, you know, even with everybody else. And
it's the same in sports, you know. So I mean,
I know when our kids in the summers, you know,
a cad we had them do a little tutoring and
(23:41):
or you know, get tutoring a few things. But I
was always like, look, let them have some summer off.
Like when Rob I had summers. I didn't do anything
academic in the summer, right, Like nothing we played, were
playing baseball, basketball, football, We were out having fun for
three months, all right. And now you got kids getting
(24:03):
tutored and almost like they're in school. And I get it.
I mean, maybe I'm speaking out of turn because academically
America is not where it used to be and we
need to catch up to some of the rest of
the world too, But I just think it's all it's
not just sports. We are dropped. We like we are
cultures like go go go, go, go, go, go, go
(24:23):
go at everything you know, and sometimes you need to rest.
They say, even God rested on day seven, right right, No,
you have to you have to rest.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
And I think people have gotten carried away, Chris with
trying to impress people about the work that they're putting
in and all that. And it's okay, I understand people
want you to work hard. You know, I work hard, Chris,
but you gotta get off your feed. You gotta relax
once in a while, you know what I mean, in
order for your body to recharge.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Otherwise it's going to break down. That's what happens. Yeah,
all right, it's the odd couple. Keep it locked. Fox
Sports Radio. Here's Nick Cope with the update. Nick, all right,
thank you guys.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
We got Game four of the Western Conference Final going
on in Edmonton two to two at the end of
the first period, as the Stars have a two to
one series lead. So one started great for Dallas. They
had two goals in the first six minutes, but Edmonton
came back.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
The Oilers were able to power their way through the middle.
Here's du Jannompkins off a check. McDavid spree a shot.
Did I reabot stored in? This game is tied David.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
Buch Shard sliding back door Popsier do back in that
Edmondson is tide two two. That's courtesy of the Oilers
Radio network. To the NBA, where the Clippers and coach
tylu have agreed on a five year deal worth seventy million,
one of the highest paid coaches in the league. Wizards
have removed the interim tag from coach Brian Keith, making
(25:51):
him their full time head coach. ESPN reports the Cavaliers
have been given permission to interview Warrior's assistant Kenny Atkinson
and pelicans'sistant James Barrego. Barrego also reportedly interviewed with the
Lakers today. The Jefferson County DA's office in Kentucky has
dropped all charges against Scotnie Scheffler related to the incident
(26:12):
prior to the second round of the PGA Championship a
couple weeks ago. In the NFL, the forty nine Ers
re signed receiver Juwan Jennings to a two year deal
worth up to fifteen point four million, ten and a
half million of that in guaranteed. And in baseball, guys,
what a day for the Mets. Edwin Diaz placed on
the injured list. Pete Alonso came out of today's loss
(26:32):
to the Dodgers taking a pitch off his hand. They've
lost fifteen of their last nineteen games. And Rob, I
don't know if you saw this, but Mets reliever Jorge
Lopez gave up a two run homer to Otani. Next,
that bat doesn't get a call on a check swing,
barks at the third base umpire, gets ejected, throws his
glove into the stands on the way off the field.
(26:53):
After the game, In the postgame press conference, Lopez was
asked did he regret his actions.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
I don't. I don't regret it. I think I've been
looking the worst team in probably in the whole MLB. So,
you know, whatever happened happened. So whatever they want to
do it, I'll be tomorrow here if they want me,
you know, whatever they want to do.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
So it does not sound like the Mets want him
to be around. Reports are the Mets are going to
designate Lopez for assignment.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You can't what what is he so? What did he
just say?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I mean, unbelievable and you can't throw your glove into
the stands?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Unprofessional? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Yeah, So there was some confusion that did Lopez say
he was on the worst team or he was the
worst teammate and apparently Lopez later explained his comments a
combination of both. He's the worst teammate on the worst team.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
So hey, he's not nice.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Sounds like you said, may sound like morale, Yes, he
sounds like he said he was on the worst team.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
That's how I heard it, but apparently some people just
wanted to make sure, so he said, hey, it's both.
I'm I'm having a horrible time here and we're all
having a horrible time.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
So robb G, can you help us with the Spanish?
Did I miss something? That's gotta be What did you
speak Spanish?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Robbing a drop? Right now? That's not quickly Spanish? I
can there we go? Thank you? I can speak enough
to get by, yes, all right, But what did we
say every every Mexican. I didn't say that. I didn't
say that. Stop. That's got to stop. Stop. I'm the
(28:44):
least racist guy in the world. I think you wanted
your time. Yeah, let me just hear one more time.
I want you to listen.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
I think I've been looking the worst demon probably the
whole MLB.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So that wasn't Spanish at all? Spanish?
Speaker 9 (29:05):
And what she said, oh my gosh, he had an
accent all of a sudden, it's a different language.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Have you heard yourself talk? Rob What was more like
e bonics? Right? The Spanish? I didn't understand the word
he said before the worst? What was that word? One
more time? What did he say right before the worst? Look?
Speaker 8 (29:31):
I think I've been looking the worst team in the whole.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I've been looking the worst team and probably the whole.
Did he say the worst team on the worst teammate?
Maybe the worst team?
Speaker 9 (29:43):
I think on Twitter it's saying team. Everyone's attributing him
saying I'm looking at the worst.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
I mean, he just it's his second language, and he
he was asked just to make sure, and he said
he said both. He's like, I'm the worst teammate and
this is the worst team.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Wow, he ain't lying, no, no, but you know you
can't say that, and he won't be an ex New
York Met tomorrow.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
I'll tell you what Rob this is. I mean, that
was kind of funny, but we've had this conversation before.
These international guys, even if it is the second language,
they're much more honest than the American in every sport. Yes,
so it is refreshing to hear a guy like, no,
you know, we suck and this team sucks and I
suck and we're having fun.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Get me out of you right, real right, and you
will be out of there. Don't worry about it, no doubt.
He won't be on the Mets tomorrow. All right. Well,
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The Timberwolves, of course, won last night and now they
are down three to one, trying to become the first
team ever in the history of the NBA to rally
(31:37):
from a three to zero deficit to win. Do you
give them any chance to do that?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I do not.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I think that they could win another game or so,
but I don't think that they can win the series.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, it's obviously an uphill battle. That's an understatement. You know,
it's been close. I do think if you know a
lot of people say rob is gonna happen at some point,
not necessarily, Well, it happen. It happened with the Yankees
and Red Sox. Don't forget that.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
That's baseball too. I mean, that was but it's happened when.
But it had never happened in baseball, Chris, is what
I'm saying. It had never happened before that a team
coming back.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
From down three.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
And if you remember, I always say this, I can't
I need to look up the score, but the Yankees
beat the Red Sox something like sixteen to four.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Chris, remember that in Game three that was in Boston.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
They demolished them right uh and and so people thought, oh,
the series is over.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
They look at what they just did.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
They just destroyed the Red Sox at Fenway. There's no
way that they can come back and win.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
And what happened. They won the next four games, I think,
And it doesn't happen much. Is that the only time
it's happening us? Yeah, that's what I'm gonna saying. It
never happens much on baseball, But I think it's easier
to not easy, but baseball. I could see it happening
(33:09):
more than in basketball because of the importance of pitching.
Right if you gets hot and the other teams in
the slump, you know it just they could control the series.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
That's why it's not in baseball, because it's all about
your starting pitching. Chris, you could get demolished one day
if the next guy in the mound throws a gem.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
It doesn't matter what happened, Like it could happen one time.
You know, it could happen at some point in basketball.
I'm just saying I don't agree with the statement that
a lot of people make. It's gonna happen at some point.
Not necessarily maybe, but maybe not. But if it's going
to happen, Rob this is probably the best case scenario
(33:58):
in that Okay, you're down three to zero, you win
Game four, so now it's three to one and you're
going home. It's not like you won, I think with
the Lakers. Yeah, with the Lakers, they won Game four
against Denver, but then went on back to Denver, you
know what I mean, and it was over. So now
(34:21):
the Timberwolves at least are at home, and look they lost.
They're zero and two at home in this series and
they lost too. What two of the three games in
Minnesota to Denver. So that may not be an advantage,
but you know, you think it is because you're at home,
so you're going home if you win that, and I
(34:41):
give them a chance, I'm gonna pick them tomorrow and
we'll see, you know, if they can deliver. But then
Game six, Rob, that is the pivotal one. Certainly, if
Minnesota wins Game six doesn't mean they're gonna win the series.
Remember a year ago, Miami was up three to zero
on Boston. Boston went the next three, and everybody thinks,
(35:02):
or everybody thought, Rob entering that series, that Boston was
the better team. So when they won those three in
a row to force game seven, and they were at
home for Game seven, you thought, we all thought, right,
Boston's winning this thing, and they lost. So you mentioned
no momentum in baseball. You know a lot of these
(35:23):
playoff games, Rob, it seems like momentum is not. It
just it's every game is its own entity, and I
honestly that's how Minnesota has to look at it. Obviously,
it's it's unlikely that they do it, but you know,
they got to take it one game out of time,
(35:43):
and the key last night, rober Karl Anthy Towns finally
showed up. This is an evenly matched series. The eight
points separate the two teams, and the difference is that
Luca and Kyrie have played well, or at least played
well in the first three games, and Anthony Edwards and
(36:04):
especially Carl Anthony Towns hadn't played well in the first
three games, and last night it was reversed. So it's
hard to imagine Luke and Kyrie struggling in another game,
or certainly in two straight, you know, to the next
two games and stuff like that. But to try to
(36:25):
counter that, Rob Cat, I think Anthony Edwards. I mean, look,
he's young, he may have he may be up and
down a little. But to counter the likelihood that Kyrie
and Luca play well in the next game, you need
Anthony Edwards and Carl Anthony Towns to be at their best.
They gotta play well, and Rob they Towns did not
(36:47):
play well and they still were close in those first
three games. So he's got to bring it every single
game going forward.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, I hear you, and the you would think so
going home, right that they should feel good, But you
brought it up already. They really haven't performed well, Chris,
in the last two series at home after getting off
to a great start. So that's worrisome that you can
beat them on their own court, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
That is definitely worrisome. And I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
If you're counting on another bad shooting night by Luca
or Kyrie, the chances are not really good that both
of them will be.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Down, you know what I mean. And you don't have to.
You don't need both to beat to win.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
You just need one of those guys and then the
other one to be decent, not great, and they still
have a shot to win.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
So I think it's a daunting task. It's not impossible.
But I believe that the Mavericks finish them off, Chris.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I really do, because I just think maybe they got
carried away with being up three to zero and all
that and.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Thinking that they had leeway.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
But once you let a tea back into a series,
and if they win that game game five, I think
you're asking for trouble. And the idea that you can't
that the other team can't get back in it is
not that far fetched.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
No, no, no question about it. And also Rob, and
I know obviously Dallas does not want to look ahead.
But the longer, even if they win the series, say
in six or seven games, the longer this series goes,
the more chance of someone on your team getting hurt
(38:35):
for the finals. Right, like Lucas already, I mean, I
don't know what where the knees at at this point.
It doesn't even seem to be an issue, but maybe
the knees still bothering me. Maybe you know, he could
use some extra rest. Derek Lively already got hurt, and
that's a big that was a big factor last night, Rob.
Derek Lively was plus twenty two in the series. That
(38:59):
was the most of that was the highest plus minus
of any player in the series in the first three games, Rob,
So he was important. And you saw last night one
of the things that got Karl Anthony Towns going was
he was driving to the basket and he kept you
attacking the rim more than he had in those first
three games. And so you know that kind of helped
(39:20):
him get going. And maybe that doesn't happen if Lively's there.
So that's just an example of how any extra game
you play, a player could get hurt and now you
might be shorthanded. Going into Boston or that those finals.
So yeah, I mean it's interesting because it is an
evenly matched series. I don't think Dallas is like definitively
(39:46):
better than Minnesota. I think they got the best player
in Luca, and at this point you could argue the
second best player in Kyrie. So obviously that's a big advantage.
But you know, we will see how how it goes.
But yeah, you're right, Dallas gotta try to close them out.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
They really it goes to six, then, you know, then
it really gets interesting roun yep, And and uh, I
think what was your original pick? Minnesota and seven? Six
and six? Okay, so they can't do that, No, I'm
just curious. I thought you said seven. But then again,
that would have been winning game seven at home. All yeah,
so you had them in six, okay? Uh yeah, I
(40:31):
just I don't see it happening. I don't I just
don't have that field, Chris. But but tonight's game is
a big game in the series. You just don't want
to let them get back in yep.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Absolutely, all right. It is the odd couple Chris and
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