May 31, 2024 • 38 mins
Chris and Rob explain why Phil Handy when he suggests that members of the sports world owe Kyrie Irving an apology now that he’s back in the NBA Finals after years of controversy and tell us if the Boston Celtics should be heavy betting favorites heading into their NBA Finals matchup with the Dallas Mavericks. Plus, 3x NFL All-Pro and Lights Out Xtreme Fighting founder Shawne Merriman swings by to promote his upcoming event, why it was so important for him to launch his new free streaming service, what’s next now that the Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson boxing match has been postponed, the evolution of combat sports and much more!
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I think we talked about that, and the.
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So Rob, Phil Handy, who I believe has been on
the show before.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
I know Phil assistant coach.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well, he was in the battle, got fired, but with
consistent coach with the Lakers and was with Cleveland when
Kyrie and Lebron was there. He posted was it on
Instagram or on Twitter?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
It was on Instagram a.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Picture of him and Kyrie at the finals might have been.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
It could have been.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Either Cleveland or Oakland because it was when they were
playing Golden State. And with the photo he posted this caption.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I usually reserved my comments on certain things, but not today.
There's a lot of people in the hoop world who
owe this man, meaning Kyrie public apologies. Some of y'all
tried to bury this dude and kill his career based
on what you heard and not what you know.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Word to the unwise.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
If you don't know someone, you probably shouldn't speak on them.
Media and others always have their narratives, but the real
ones know, Kyrie, keep doing your thing.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
WI old bean would be proud.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
More work to do, but damn it's got It's good
to see this dude.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
In the finals.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Hashtag put some respect on his name.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Rob your thoughts.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Nobody said that Kyrie Irving couldn't play basketball or wasn't
a great player.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I just Chris showed me that.
Speaker 7 (03:24):
Now there were people said he should retire and not
this and that all that, But who who said he
couldn't play?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
No, Chris, did we ever talk about that on this
You say.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Kyrie couldn't play at any point in your life or
his career, you shouldn't be talking about basketball.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
That I know that never came up on this radio show. No, no, no, no,
no no, that he.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Couldn't play basketball. The stuff that Kyrie got himself into.
Kyrie got himself into. You can't always one is one
thing and another thing. Uh, One is basketball, Chris, and
one is a public perception or you representing the league
and the team and other things that are going on.
(04:07):
Whether you agree or disagree, those are things that come
with being a public figure, Chris, and working for somebody else.
It just that's that's how it is, right. It has
nothing to do with him getting to the finals. A
public apology of what I think seriously now now if
(04:30):
he's talking about somebody specific or some other situation, but Chris,
I just you would have to refresh my memory for
anybody who thought that Kyrie can't play. We said he's
one of the most talented guys out there. It's a
shame that it never worked in Brooklyn. If those guys
would have played together, we died. We wanted to see
that work. Were the supportive of them. How many years
(04:52):
do we do that, Chris. We both thought that they
should win.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Here's what I say to Phil, and I know Phil
goes way back with Kyrie. I mean, he's just finely
privately a lot and he's helped him out, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
But here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
The overwhelming majority of the criticism that Kyrie got he
brought on himself.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
Thank you, Chris, that this is no other way of
getting around that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
He which is this is his right, but he demanded
out of Cleveland right when they were a team that maybe.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Was capable of winning more championships.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
He and now he'd loved to play I mean, he's
obviously happy with Luca, but he came back to realize,
you know what, I had a great situation playing with
Lebron that in and of itself, like he admits that
now that he he'd love to play with Lebron again,
had a great situation with him, and so that clearly
was a mistake. And then told said Rob threatened reportedly
(05:59):
to have he's surgery if they wouldn't trade him.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
He goes to Boston and.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Says that he's looking forward to staying there, and then
he leaves.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
I remember that I'm staying if you'll have me, and
then he goes to Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Now, injuries aren't his fault, but earlier in his career
and really for the first two thirds of his career,
I mean most of his career, he's been injury prone.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
So there's that, But.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Rob, he really did say they don't need a coach.
Right when Steve Nash was brought in we don't really
need a coach. We're gonna kind of all do it together.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
He really did say that.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You know, he really did take off a few weeks
rob for Like, didn't he take off a week.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
For January sixth?
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Because of that. I mean a lot of people didn't
like what happened on January sixth.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
We still came to work. You just can't do that,
and so and then he did. You know, now the
anti vacts. That's his right, but you know, I mean
some people were critical.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Look that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I was like, look, that's what he wants to do.
He can do it, but you know, it definitely hurt
their season and Chris lay the least. The big thing
was that's his right. There were mandates in New York.
He couldn't play other players.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
We saw Wiggins in in uh, California, in San Francisco
right now in Oakland. I guess what right they had
to take this shot? Yeah, he took it, and they
want a championship. He played great that year. They want
a championship. So Wiggins was was questionable on it.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
He did it and they won.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
So and and there was I think Kyrie was only
there was only like I don't know three players who
didn't didn't there, Well.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I thought there were two. There wasn't. Bradley Beal the
other one. I think Bradley.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Andrew Wiggins got it because like Kyrie, if he didn't
get it, he couldn't play in Califoria. Yet Bradleyfield did
not get it, but they didn't have the same mandates
in DC, so it wasn't as big.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Of a deal.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
And then remember players couldn't go to Canada. You remember,
they couldn't play in Toronto.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And that's also not counting Kyrie during you know, the
height of COVID when they had lockdowns in place and
he was flouting it by going to nightclubs and things
like that, and he got he got fined for that,
and that's not even counting. As we get further on
into his tenure, the documentary that he.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Pushed down with the book and then refused.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
To apologize, didn't even speak to management for weeks on
end because he had his agents doing it, and he
was suspended.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
And then wound up apologize, wound up apologizes apology with.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That and Kyrie and he admitted some of the stuff
in that book and documentary he didn't agree with right,
and that's those are actually the things people were asking
him to apologize for.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Nobody was saying you should.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
How dare you say the Hebrews were black?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Nobody was saying that. You know, there are plenty of
black Hebrews.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
You know, and so you know, I want him on
the Ten Commandments, I'm just saying, but I ain't saying
the on the Ten.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Commandments that everybody was white on that, even though it
was in Africa in the Middle East.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
I've been to Africa, Chris and nobody, nobody, but but
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So like, I get Kyrie wanting to stand on what
he believes and his principles, but it was like, you're
admitting these things you don't agree with, so why not
just apologize for those things? Again, Nobody was saying, apologize
for saying the Hebrews were black and things like that.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
But that was where pride got to it. And then
of course when he didn't get the Max deal after
all of that, he caused that led to James Harden.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Rob wantn't out right because Kyrie wasn't playing because of
the anti vaxstance, and after all that commotion, he gets
mad because they won't give him a max contract, and
then demands a trade and and so everything like.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Get a contract in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
He got three years, one twenty, which is way.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Below his market market value. That's what he wanted because
he didn't get his way. He didn't get his way
in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And so you're right, that's right he I mean, I
think the Nets would have probably paid him a deal
more than that. Yeah, So I mean every what what
of those things? What is like wrong? He he said
the earth is flat? He got mocked for that, but that.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Wasn't get a holiday was up there?
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Yes, it shouldn't be or something like that. And he
ended up apologizing for saying the earth was flat. He
talked to some teachers.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
They said, the kids are starting to believe his mess,
and he went out and apologized for it.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
So a lot of this stuff, Kyrie's already.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
He has come out and apologized.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And now if you look at it now, Rob, he's
not doing the things that people were criticizing him for
or people were raising eyebrows about, and so now they
can just focus on his basketball. So I don't know,
I mean, Kyrie is I think he has said we
(11:27):
certainly said he's grown and matured. But the fact that
he's not doing the things he did in the past
to earn that criticism, does he what's there to apologize for.
I did say, I don't know that this is apology worthy.
I said I didn't think Dallas should give him a
long term deal. That had nothing to do with him,
(11:50):
like not like anymore.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
That was just about him.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
That was analysis right on. If you get him a
long term deal, he might start taking weeks off again.
He might, you know what I mean, You just don't
know with his track record. But that's not that's just
looking at the situation and commenting. That's like saying I
should apologize for picking the Timberwolves right over the over
the Mavericks. You know, No, it's just was wrong. I
(12:16):
meant it was wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I'm glad certainly the Mavericks made the right move, and
Chris Bruce was wrong and saying they shouldn't have given
him a long term deal. But that's it's not necessarily
an apology.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
R No, You know so, I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I just if it'd be one thing, Rob if he
was being unfairly maligned, but he really did all those.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Things, and I'm with you. I just I don't see
an apology. If somebody said, uh, Kyrie's washed up. If
I'm Dallas, they're crazy, you know what I mean, I
wouldn't trade for that.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Guy or whatever it is.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Then then maybe you could say you were so wrong
or whatever, or you or you did something or said
something Chris that was out of pocket.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I just don't remember that. I really don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
We talked about Kyrie Robb, especially with the documentary and stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
We never said he was a bad guy. We said
we think he means well.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I don't even think he necessarily read that book or
saw the documentary. I thought he thought it was interesting,
the title from negro from Hebrews to Negroes and all
that stuff. I thought that intrigued him. But no, we
never have criticized his character.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
On his play. Well that he couldn't certainly not his play.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
So I just think, you know, Kyrie would like to
do that Chris, you know, like to get on the
high horse.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
And he won.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
He's going to the finals, and now I'm gonna rub
it in everybody's face.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Did he did apologize?
Speaker 6 (13:50):
I think he should retire.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, and not wrong, I mean, but I think even
that and that's strong and steven A apologized, But I
also think he was saying kind of was that after.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
It was like if you don't want to play it right,
it was right, you're not going to play just yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
It was more what might have been after the vaccination thing,
like he wasn't playing.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Like right, so if you really don't want to play,
then you should just retire. I think it was of
that ilk.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well let's throw it out to
the listeners.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Kyrie is having
a redemption tour.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
We'll see if it continues in the NBA Finals, But
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Your Turn to weigh In. There's the media, Okyrie irving
an apology.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
All right, Sarah in Nashville. You're on the Odd Couple
Fox Sports Radio. What's up to Earrah?
Speaker 9 (16:01):
Oh fantastic. I can't believe I'm on Hi Rob Hi Gang.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Hey, I'm Chris is riding.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
How are you?
Speaker 9 (16:15):
Fantastic?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Sarah just likes to talk to me.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Do you know Sarah personally?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Right?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
No, I don't know it personally, but she's called before.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Okay, says I'm just part of the gang.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Chris is like, I'm part of the gang.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Well, Chris, when you're when you're six foot tall and
you know, got that salt pepper hair and that six
feet I said, six foot, six foot, six four four.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Sarah Sarah like, look, I ain't saying all that all
ahad Sarah.
Speaker 9 (16:49):
Okay, I just want to say that the guy who
was that you guys were quoting, he's just grandstanding. It
was all about Hey see, I was right. He didn't
really say anything great about car. He didn't say anything
encouraging and say, hey man, great job.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Just go and take it.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
So I think he was just like, finally get some attention,
you know what.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
And that's a good point to just say, you know
what I mean, Chris, praise Kyrie. Look at what he
was able to do. And my god, you know, I'm
not surprised.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
That you're here.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
We all know you have the talent, we all believe
in you. You know what.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
That's a good point by Sarah that it was grand
standing bringing attention to himself rather than the Kyrie.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah, that that's a good point, Sarah.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Bob in Minneapolis, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
What's up, Bob Hey?
Speaker 10 (17:38):
How you doing Hey? I believe that some of the
media does owe an apology because some of you guys,
I'm not saying you guys took it personal and cool.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Give us give us a name of somebody that you
heard that took it person personal.
Speaker 10 (17:53):
Kendrick Perkins and Shack and and Charles Barkley.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
They took Okay, what did they say?
Speaker 10 (17:58):
I can't remember exactly what they say right off hand. Okay,
but then you know, during the COVID time when he
didn't want to take the shot and he couldn't play,
there were a lot of other players from other teams
that came to New York to could play, But you
guys didn't get on them. But you got going to
Kyrie over that.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Why is that?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well, if any I mean guys that came you mean
guys that didn't take the shot became to New York
and were allowed to play.
Speaker 10 (18:23):
Yes, exactly, but no one got on them about it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Because because if anybody was getting on well at least us,
we weren't getting Rob correct me if I'm wrong, We
weren't getting on.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Kyrie for decide not to take the shot and.
Speaker 11 (18:38):
Say it hurts. It hurts to will the season, right,
I mean that's a fact, right. I didn't care if
you took the shot or not. My thing was like,
are you helping your team win or or or not?
And remember this, and James Horton said, James Harten said,
I'm gonna make him take the shot because we need him.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
You remember remember that.
Speaker 10 (19:00):
But I'm not talking good I think you guys are
the best on the radio. It's not you guys. I'm
just saying just the media, other media members. They got
on him for not taking it, but other players didn't
take it and weren't allowed to play. They didn't say
nothing about no one else.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
There's there's no doubt there were some people that were
just mad at him for not taking the shot.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Period.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
We talked about it from a basketball standpoint that and
you saw what Wiggins in Golden State, Chris right, he
was in the same exact situation, right, He couldn't play
home games, and he took the shot and wound up
having a great season for them and they won the championship.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
That could have been.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Kyrie, absolutely absolutely could have been Kyrie. And the people
that I guess jumped on him for not taking the shot.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
They were jumping on anybody that didn't take the shot.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, it was just Kyrie and obviously a very polarizing situation.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
No doubt.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Blonde Seahawks fan in Olympia, Washington, You're on the couple
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Speaker 5 (19:58):
What's up?
Speaker 12 (20:00):
I almost forgot about the COVID shot. That's how long
it's been since I've heard about that stuff. Man, what's
going on? Christian Roberry? Guy's doing.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
What's up? Man?
Speaker 6 (20:06):
We're good?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Good? How are you?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Oh? I'm good man.
Speaker 12 (20:09):
Just just hanging out listening to you guys.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
You know.
Speaker 12 (20:11):
But that's why I say this. I mean, look, Kyrie,
he has every right in the world to see, you know,
speak of what's on his mind, do what he does.
I mean, it's a freedom of speech. Like as an American,
we all have that. I mean, obviously you guys have it.
You work in the media, You could say what you
want to say. I mean, people all have the right
to disagree with him.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Right right.
Speaker 12 (20:30):
The COVID shot. It was a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Like I feel like it was probably like sixty forty.
Speaker 12 (20:35):
I like, people getting it and not getting it. I mean,
everyone had their own opinions, and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I mean for me, I.
Speaker 12 (20:41):
Don't think the media owes to him a pology. They
were just voicing their opinions first of all. Then second
of all, like he has, basketball wasn't up to par,
and I'm sawing Rob Jesus like he's improved a lot
drastically just in these playoffs alone, and even since like
the Probow Sunday in February of twenty twenty three, when
the Nets traded him over to the Mavericks. There hasn't
been any negative headlines about Kyrie since then. But I
(21:03):
think Kyrie is maturing as a man and realizing I
got to be here for my team. And I also
Rob this, I have all the effect for Kyrie now.
I mean, he he's there to do his job and
he's been falling out these playoffs. So like to be
honest with you, I'm rooting for him. And it would
be one thing if like today on Twitter, you know
on the Big Show that like there are still people
hating on Kyrie, there's not. People are giving them the
(21:24):
prop that he deserves, and and it's all it's okay
to criticize him because of all circumstances like forcing his
way out of Cleveland going to Boston. I think it's
perfectly okay for him, you know, for people to say
Kyrie leaves another.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Ring not beyond criticism, I don't know why people feel
like you can't criticize.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Exactly right, No, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
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is access to all these events.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
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in really the TV business right since I retired over
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Speaker 7 (24:12):
Sean the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight postponed. I don't
know if they'll even fight it is this something now?
I know it's an ulcer. Anybody can get it, but
when you're older and Mike Tyson here has got to
pull out or at least postpone it. Do you think
that people sanction this is going to start looking and
going like what are we doing here? If something bad happens,
are we going to be on the hook an older guy,
(24:35):
younger guy? What do you make of this fight and
whether or not they should even fight it?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I think it's unfortunate, right because that was a talk
from the beginning, So you know, when you have something
like this to happen, and there with the fight, I
think a fight was late July, right, It was late.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
July twentieth, I think.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
And so normally if even if a fighter at a
younger age is hurt or injured this far out I
mean you got all the jails you basically this call
it two months right or close to me? If he
was if he was if Mike was younger, he would
be able to recover no matter what it is and
still be ready for the fight. But as you said,
that age man like that father time's undefeated. What never
(25:13):
gonna beat him. And so when you when you get
any kind of injuries or something happened to you this late,
that bounce back into the same you just your health
don't turn around that fast. So it's gonna question. It's
gonna put a lot of questions going forward on first
of all, how it got sanctioned from the beginning. Yeah, Second,
you know, second, you know, it puts the stain on
you know, it sucks because I think Netflix was was smart.
(25:36):
I mean they were smart to do this. People said, oh,
that shouldn't happen, and it was smart because everybody's bunk
tuned in. But this is like Netflix's bigg as like
Boom coming out the gate and the live fighting, live
sports type of deal. So it kind of put a
little stain on that too.
Speaker 10 (25:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I wanted to see it happen, tell you the truth.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
What says I just want to follow up. You said
you want to see it happen. But here was my issue, Sean,
is letting Jake Paul eat off your legacy. If you're
Mike Tyson, you don't there's nothing good that can happen
if you beat Jake Paul.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Okay, you beat him.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
If you get knocked out, that's, you know, or the
knocked out of the ring, or look terrible or whatever.
Most people, these young people have never even seen Mike
Tyson fight. They don't they don't remember him when he
was knocking everybody out in thirty seconds. It's just to me,
unless you're just so down and out and need money,
to let Jake.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Paul eat off your legacy is the issue I had.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
See you know, Roberie, I would say that, but I
think this is it's a new day and age, right,
like when you talk about legacy, like everybody knows about
getting the bag and.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
It shouldn't be for sale. Though that's Sean, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I'm with you to pretend, but it's no different than
Floyd taking these exhibition matches for nine million, right, and
so that so my.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Thing is sixty years old.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I don't want to I don't want to. I don't
want to see Mike getting I want to see them.
I want to see the fight happen because actually think
that Mike had a better shot than most people think.
But you and I'm a legacy guy, like yo, don't
browl your reputation, like, don't come back because we want
to remember Mike Tyson as Iron Mike, right, So I
get it. I'm with that, But also at the same
time too, man, It's it's a different game out here now. Man.
(27:18):
It's less about legacy and more about getting a bag.
And I've kind of had to move my mind instead
of keeping like that old school mindset of how it
should be. It's about getting getting the bag out here, man.
That's that's what it came down to.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
How did you feel like this fight would go? You
said you thought, like, look.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
I don't mind seeing it if Tyson knocks him out,
but I do not have a stomach for seeing Jake
Paul beat Mike Tyson. How did you think this thing?
And I'm not saying he would.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's hard to gauge how a fifty eight year old
man would look, But how did you kind of see
it playing out?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I think that if Mike Tyson would get him. I
don't see Mike type doing anything passing through the fourth
round right because his gas, his gas tankts just gonna
be there because of this age, and Jake Paul hasn't
even if Mike fifty seven years old, Jake Paul hasn't
seen anybody that applot pressure to him. The closest person
that had him with Tyroon Willey, Tyron Whoodley. But Tyron
(28:17):
didn't press on the gas to really really go after
Jake when he had an opportunity. See if Mike it
might start pressure and dake Jake in those first three
or four rounds and hurt him. I think Mike had
a good chance win it because Jake has never seen
pressure from a professional boxer to that magnitude. And Tyron
Willie could have did it, he just never He just
never stepped in the gas.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
H Man, I hear you on that.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
What what do you think of the heavyweight division right now?
We saw us sick he beat Tyson Fury. It's interesting
you you know, Joshua has had a little bit of
a resurgence.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
What do you think of the heavyweight division right now?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It's not as I mean, it's not as strong as
it used to be because there's no one clear heavyweight
when you know you got to come you have seen
a holy Field or you haven't seen anybody when you
know there's going to be punishment, right, And a lot
of these guys are flip flop brought back and forth.
You know, Joshua Antie Joshua goes and knocks out Daniel
(29:16):
Francis Ganu even I know he's in the mmm A side,
but you know, a couple of fights ago, Antie Joshua
didn't look that great themselves, right, And so there's right
now the heavyweight division. You hope it come back and
research like it did, but there's not a heavyweight out here.
There's not too many heavyweights that that you really fear
like you fear holy Field, you feared Tightening, feared George Forman,
(29:41):
you feared these guys during their times, and we don't
have that right now. In boxing.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
It is not having a governing body over boxing and
people just willy nilly whatever they can get and make
their own deals. Has that hurt boxing because I just
it's it's really off the rear. There's so many kids
who will not be able to take that or give that.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
To their kids. Sean.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
You know, like when we watch fighting, I'm like, hey,
you kids, get off my lawn. But I watched Muhammad
Ali fight on a Saturday afternoon on ABC, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Like, I saw fights.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
All the fights are laid, all of them you have
to pay money for. There are a lot of kids
who have grown up not watching boxing. How in the
world do they do they share that with their sons
or their their families.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
You know what deal?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
What killed boxing? Rather be honest to that point, it's
been the manager to promotions and networks has been gardening
these guys, guarding the big fights, stopping it from happening
because they know that as soon as that one big
loss happened, that that money's gone. Right, It's almost like
you go back down to zero. And I don't agree
with that, and not really blame boxing fans for this,
(30:50):
Like just because you take a loss, right, just because
you take the laws, don't move you back down to zero.
That's why the UFC has conned over it, MA has
climbed over boxing because you're seeing the number one guy
fighting number three guys, the champions fighting number two guys, right,
the number eight guys fighting number seven guy, and that
the competition level, you're going to lose on fight. And
(31:11):
so everybody's so concerned on guys being twenty thirty, forty
and other like. We don't care no more. We want
to see the best fight possible and that's what lawing
boxes well.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
And that's why it's good that your your new streaming
platform is free.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
Hey, Sean, If it's free is for me, I'm signing up.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Hey. Look, that's why when people watching it just feel
a little better watching them when it's free.
Speaker 9 (31:35):
Don't it.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Yes, absolutely.
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Speaker 5 (31:55):
Get with the with the car.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Appreciate it, guys. Thanks having me on.
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earlier with one of our guests.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
The Celtics are favorite. Give us the odds.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
That's right, according to Lamar Mitchell and the folks at
bet MGM. Shout out to Lamar's going on a cruise
coming up here to the big cruise.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I'm jealous of that.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
And you know, the Celtics have been favorites all year.
They have the favorites coming into the season. They were
the favorites entering the playoffs, and no surprise, they are
the favorites heading into the finals.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Even though most people agree.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
That their path has been late, that Dallas has looked
really good, that they've beaten three point fifty win teams,
which would be the first team to do that since
the twenty ten Lakers, and yet Boston at bet MGM
minus two to twenty five favorite, which makes them a
prohibitive favorite entering this series.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
So, Rob, you think they should be favorite? Why? Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Because they just the record they had this year, Chris
undefeated on the road, they got their experience that they've
been to the finals twelve and two.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
I just I look at them and think that they
should be the favorite.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
It doesn't mean that the Mavericks can't upset them or whatever,
but I do think if the Celtics can't win this championship,
I just don't know which one they're winning. Like they
had an easier path to get their and and that
guy's gonna get porzingis back, right, I mean, like everything's
(34:07):
lined up for them.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I do agree with you and that if they don't
win this one, when will it get done? Because you know,
there's a lot of good teams out there. This was
a very easy path for them. You heard Rob g
The Mavericks had to go through three fifty win teams.
These are the guys. I mean, granted Kawhi missed a
lot of that series, but still Paul George James Harden
(34:32):
with the Clippers second round, who they beat in the
second round, they beat Oklahoma City with you know, the
number one seed with Shay Gilgers, Alexander number two in
the MVP vote, the young ten then of course, yeah,
very young, youngest team ever to win a playoff series.
And then they beat of course Minnesota with Anthony Edwards,
(34:53):
Carled Anthony.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Towns, Rudy Gobert, and so on and so forth.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I don't think the you know, some people think that
Boston's gonna be in for a shock at the upgrade
and competition, you know, going from Indiana to Dallas. But
I don't know that that will be an issue for them.
But I just don't think they've been as them. I
(35:19):
haven't been that impressed with them in the playoffs. And
I know they've you know, like you said, twelve and two, uh,
and I it's winning advance, that's all that matters. And
it is impressive sweeping the team even if the games
are close.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
But these teams were so banged up.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
None of them won fifty games even when they were healthy,
and then they lost their best player.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
And Boston should have.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Made easy work of these teams, and they struggled. I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
No, I wanted them to not struggle against Indiana when
narse Halliburn's I just.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
I just think that, you know, I mean, Chris, you
could do it. You're like, no, I mean they did
struggle with the wins, and I.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
Just think you know, when you talk about uh, you
know the way.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
That they struggle. They had the best record in the league.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
They they played a lot of They played a much
lighter schedule than the Western conference sations.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
The East was not nearly as good as the West.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Yeah, but I'm just saying, but they also played them.
They didn't lose all the games to the Western team. No,
but they didn't win all of either. I'm just saying
I don't think they win sixty four games. I don't
think they necessarily had the best record if they are
in the West. I'm gonna tell you the Mavericks beating
teams with well over fifty wins, but they won't beat
a team with over sixty wins in the regular season.
How's that, rob G You got numbers?
Speaker 6 (36:36):
Oh, I got a lot of numbers.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Was nice.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
But now, guys, I know that we both think it's
gonna be a good series. But the folks in Vegas,
if this is just to be in any dcation, the
Celtics were underdogs just three times all season, tied for
the fewest by any team to reach the finals this century.
On the flip side, the MAVs were underdogs forty two times,
the most by any team this injury crazy only three times.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Remember we're like two different teams. Sure, and here's some more.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Again, like we said, the analytics, the numbers, the gamblers,
they love Boston.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Here's more.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
The Celtics were favored by at least seven points in
every playoff game this season. This when they open Game one,
they're currently six point favorites, which is their lowest number
of the postseason. So not only haven't faced the team right,
but what it shows though, is that the numbers market,
maybe not the basketball heads, but the numbers people say
(37:30):
this team's a juggernaut.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
This shit not ball year exactly, and for good reason.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Chris, who's sixty four wins?
Speaker 6 (37:39):
That's not like we haven't seen sixty four wins before.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I know.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I'm just saying that there's a reason why.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Who's got the player, what team has the best player
in the series.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
It doesn't matter about the best player, and it doesn't
guarantee you a win, but it doesn't matter A lot
of times.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It matters Dallas has the best player in the series.
I will grant that, and some people might dispute it.
I will grant Boston as the second and third best players,
and then I think Kyrie would be fourth, but some
might dispute that.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
But it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
I think a.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Big key will be how Boston defends Kyrie. Luca's gonna
get his But are they You know they they played
Kyrie well when they swept Brooklyn.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
A few years ago and Kevin Durant was.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
There, and so if they can bottle Kyrie, but that
was a different team, had Email Doak as the coach,
Marcus Smart, Robert Williams the third. But obviously they're still
great defensively. So that to me is big because if
Kyrie is able to have his way, that's gonna be
tough on Boss because I know Luca gonna have his way,
and so it should be good.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
But I do think it's sizing up to be a
good series.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
You saying six, Rob, yep, Boston, six, I got Dallas
and six. All right, we out y'all have a good
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Bottom of the hour, Sean Merriman, lights out must be
a fight coming up? Who he beating up this time
with Rob g what's the fight coming? He got he
got another lights out? He got another lights out.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
But the big story with Sean, I mean we'll talk
about the Mike Tyson Tyson or Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight,
but you know that he launched his own sports network,
his own streaming service, like that's incredb.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I think we talked about that, and the.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Fact that he's putting on his own ye you know card,
and not only that, he has other events that are
going to be on this free streaming app. That's dope, man,
because I'm tired of paying twenty one dollars a month
for a channel that I watched once a year and
he's doing it for free.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Shout out to.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Sean's absolutely all right, he'll join us in about thirty minutes,
So Rob, Phil Handy, who I believe has been on
the show before.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
I know Phil assistant coach.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well, he was in the battle, got fired, but with
consistent coach with the Lakers and was with Cleveland when
Kyrie and Lebron was there. He posted was it on
Instagram or on Twitter?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
It was on Instagram a.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Picture of him and Kyrie at the finals might have been.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
It could have been.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Either Cleveland or Oakland because it was when they were
playing Golden State. And with the photo he posted this caption.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I usually reserved my comments on certain things, but not today.
There's a lot of people in the hoop world who
owe this man, meaning Kyrie public apologies. Some of y'all
tried to bury this dude and kill his career based
on what you heard and not what you know.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Word to the unwise.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
If you don't know someone, you probably shouldn't speak on them.
Media and others always have their narratives, but the real
ones know, Kyrie, keep doing your thing.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
WI old bean would be proud.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
More work to do, but damn it's got It's good
to see this dude.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
In the finals.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Hashtag put some respect on his name.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Rob your thoughts.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Nobody said that Kyrie Irving couldn't play basketball or wasn't
a great player.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I just Chris showed me that.
Speaker 7 (03:24):
Now there were people said he should retire and not
this and that all that, But who who said he
couldn't play?
Speaker 5 (03:32):
No, Chris, did we ever talk about that on this
You say.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Kyrie couldn't play at any point in your life or
his career, you shouldn't be talking about basketball.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
That I know that never came up on this radio show. No, no, no, no,
no no, that he.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Couldn't play basketball. The stuff that Kyrie got himself into.
Kyrie got himself into. You can't always one is one
thing and another thing. Uh, One is basketball, Chris, and
one is a public perception or you representing the league
and the team and other things that are going on.
(04:07):
Whether you agree or disagree, those are things that come
with being a public figure, Chris, and working for somebody else.
It just that's that's how it is, right. It has
nothing to do with him getting to the finals. A
public apology of what I think seriously now now if
(04:30):
he's talking about somebody specific or some other situation, but Chris,
I just you would have to refresh my memory for
anybody who thought that Kyrie can't play. We said he's
one of the most talented guys out there. It's a
shame that it never worked in Brooklyn. If those guys
would have played together, we died. We wanted to see
that work. Were the supportive of them. How many years
(04:52):
do we do that, Chris. We both thought that they
should win.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Here's what I say to Phil, and I know Phil
goes way back with Kyrie. I mean, he's just finely
privately a lot and he's helped him out, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
But here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
The overwhelming majority of the criticism that Kyrie got he
brought on himself.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
Thank you, Chris, that this is no other way of
getting around that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
He which is this is his right, but he demanded
out of Cleveland right when they were a team that maybe.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Was capable of winning more championships.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
He and now he'd loved to play I mean, he's
obviously happy with Luca, but he came back to realize,
you know what, I had a great situation playing with
Lebron that in and of itself, like he admits that
now that he he'd love to play with Lebron again,
had a great situation with him, and so that clearly
was a mistake. And then told said Rob threatened reportedly
(05:59):
to have he's surgery if they wouldn't trade him.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
He goes to Boston and.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Says that he's looking forward to staying there, and then
he leaves.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
I remember that I'm staying if you'll have me, and
then he goes to Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Now, injuries aren't his fault, but earlier in his career
and really for the first two thirds of his career,
I mean most of his career, he's been injury prone.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
So there's that, But.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Rob, he really did say they don't need a coach.
Right when Steve Nash was brought in we don't really
need a coach. We're gonna kind of all do it together.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
He really did say that.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You know, he really did take off a few weeks
rob for Like, didn't he take off a week.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
For January sixth?
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Because of that. I mean a lot of people didn't
like what happened on January sixth.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
We still came to work. You just can't do that,
and so and then he did. You know, now the
anti vacts. That's his right, but you know, I mean
some people were critical.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Look that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I was like, look, that's what he wants to do.
He can do it, but you know, it definitely hurt
their season and Chris lay the least. The big thing
was that's his right. There were mandates in New York.
He couldn't play other players.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
We saw Wiggins in in uh, California, in San Francisco
right now in Oakland. I guess what right they had
to take this shot? Yeah, he took it, and they
want a championship. He played great that year. They want
a championship. So Wiggins was was questionable on it.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
He did it and they won.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
So and and there was I think Kyrie was only
there was only like I don't know three players who
didn't didn't there, Well.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I thought there were two. There wasn't. Bradley Beal the
other one. I think Bradley.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Andrew Wiggins got it because like Kyrie, if he didn't
get it, he couldn't play in Califoria. Yet Bradleyfield did
not get it, but they didn't have the same mandates
in DC, so it wasn't as big.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Of a deal.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
And then remember players couldn't go to Canada. You remember,
they couldn't play in Toronto.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And that's also not counting Kyrie during you know, the
height of COVID when they had lockdowns in place and
he was flouting it by going to nightclubs and things
like that, and he got he got fined for that,
and that's not even counting. As we get further on
into his tenure, the documentary that he.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Pushed down with the book and then refused.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
To apologize, didn't even speak to management for weeks on
end because he had his agents doing it, and he
was suspended.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
And then wound up apologize, wound up apologizes apology with.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That and Kyrie and he admitted some of the stuff
in that book and documentary he didn't agree with right,
and that's those are actually the things people were asking
him to apologize for.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Nobody was saying you should.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
How dare you say the Hebrews were black?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Nobody was saying that. You know, there are plenty of
black Hebrews.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
You know, and so you know, I want him on
the Ten Commandments, I'm just saying, but I ain't saying
the on the Ten.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Commandments that everybody was white on that, even though it
was in Africa in the Middle East.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
I've been to Africa, Chris and nobody, nobody, but but
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So like, I get Kyrie wanting to stand on what
he believes and his principles, but it was like, you're
admitting these things you don't agree with, so why not
just apologize for those things? Again, Nobody was saying, apologize
for saying the Hebrews were black and things like that.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
But that was where pride got to it. And then
of course when he didn't get the Max deal after
all of that, he caused that led to James Harden.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Rob wantn't out right because Kyrie wasn't playing because of
the anti vaxstance, and after all that commotion, he gets
mad because they won't give him a max contract, and
then demands a trade and and so everything like.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Get a contract in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
He got three years, one twenty, which is way.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Below his market market value. That's what he wanted because
he didn't get his way. He didn't get his way
in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
And so you're right, that's right he I mean, I
think the Nets would have probably paid him a deal
more than that. Yeah, So I mean every what what
of those things? What is like wrong? He he said
the earth is flat? He got mocked for that, but that.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Wasn't get a holiday was up there?
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Yes, it shouldn't be or something like that. And he
ended up apologizing for saying the earth was flat. He
talked to some teachers.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
They said, the kids are starting to believe his mess,
and he went out and apologized for it.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
So a lot of this stuff, Kyrie's already.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
He has come out and apologized.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And now if you look at it now, Rob, he's
not doing the things that people were criticizing him for
or people were raising eyebrows about, and so now they
can just focus on his basketball. So I don't know,
I mean, Kyrie is I think he has said we
(11:27):
certainly said he's grown and matured. But the fact that
he's not doing the things he did in the past
to earn that criticism, does he what's there to apologize for.
I did say, I don't know that this is apology worthy.
I said I didn't think Dallas should give him a
long term deal. That had nothing to do with him,
(11:50):
like not like anymore.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
That was just about him.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
That was analysis right on. If you get him a
long term deal, he might start taking weeks off again.
He might, you know what I mean, You just don't
know with his track record. But that's not that's just
looking at the situation and commenting. That's like saying I
should apologize for picking the Timberwolves right over the over
the Mavericks. You know, No, it's just was wrong. I
(12:16):
meant it was wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I'm glad certainly the Mavericks made the right move, and
Chris Bruce was wrong and saying they shouldn't have given
him a long term deal. But that's it's not necessarily
an apology.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
R No, You know so, I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I just if it'd be one thing, Rob if he
was being unfairly maligned, but he really did all those.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Things, and I'm with you. I just I don't see
an apology. If somebody said, uh, Kyrie's washed up. If
I'm Dallas, they're crazy, you know what I mean, I
wouldn't trade for that.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Guy or whatever it is.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Then then maybe you could say you were so wrong
or whatever, or you or you did something or said
something Chris that was out of pocket.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I just don't remember that. I really don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
We talked about Kyrie Robb, especially with the documentary and stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
We never said he was a bad guy. We said
we think he means well.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I don't even think he necessarily read that book or
saw the documentary. I thought he thought it was interesting,
the title from negro from Hebrews to Negroes and all
that stuff. I thought that intrigued him. But no, we
never have criticized his character.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
On his play. Well that he couldn't certainly not his play.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
So I just think, you know, Kyrie would like to
do that Chris, you know, like to get on the
high horse.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
And he won.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
He's going to the finals, and now I'm gonna rub
it in everybody's face.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Did he did apologize?
Speaker 6 (13:50):
I think he should retire.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, and not wrong, I mean, but I think even
that and that's strong and steven A apologized, But I
also think he was saying kind of was that after.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
It was like if you don't want to play it right,
it was right, you're not going to play just yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
It was more what might have been after the vaccination thing,
like he wasn't playing.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Like right, so if you really don't want to play,
then you should just retire. I think it was of
that ilk.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Well let's throw it out to
the listeners.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Kyrie is having
a redemption tour.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
We'll see if it continues in the NBA Finals, But
do you think media members owe him an apology?
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Your Turn to weigh In. There's the media, Okyrie irving
an apology.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
All right, Sarah in Nashville. You're on the Odd Couple
Fox Sports Radio. What's up to Earrah?
Speaker 9 (16:01):
Oh fantastic. I can't believe I'm on Hi Rob Hi Gang.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Hey, I'm Chris is riding.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
How are you?
Speaker 9 (16:15):
Fantastic?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Sarah just likes to talk to me.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Do you know Sarah personally?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Right?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
No, I don't know it personally, but she's called before.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Okay, says I'm just part of the gang.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Chris is like, I'm part of the gang.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Well, Chris, when you're when you're six foot tall and
you know, got that salt pepper hair and that six
feet I said, six foot, six foot, six four four.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Sarah Sarah like, look, I ain't saying all that all
ahad Sarah.
Speaker 9 (16:49):
Okay, I just want to say that the guy who
was that you guys were quoting, he's just grandstanding. It
was all about Hey see, I was right. He didn't
really say anything great about car. He didn't say anything
encouraging and say, hey man, great job.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Just go and take it.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
So I think he was just like, finally get some attention,
you know what.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
And that's a good point to just say, you know
what I mean, Chris, praise Kyrie. Look at what he
was able to do. And my god, you know, I'm
not surprised.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
That you're here.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
We all know you have the talent, we all believe
in you. You know what.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
That's a good point by Sarah that it was grand
standing bringing attention to himself rather than the Kyrie.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah, that that's a good point, Sarah.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Bob in Minneapolis, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
What's up, Bob Hey?
Speaker 10 (17:38):
How you doing Hey? I believe that some of the
media does owe an apology because some of you guys,
I'm not saying you guys took it personal and cool.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Give us give us a name of somebody that you
heard that took it person personal.
Speaker 10 (17:53):
Kendrick Perkins and Shack and and Charles Barkley.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
They took Okay, what did they say?
Speaker 10 (17:58):
I can't remember exactly what they say right off hand. Okay,
but then you know, during the COVID time when he
didn't want to take the shot and he couldn't play,
there were a lot of other players from other teams
that came to New York to could play, But you
guys didn't get on them. But you got going to
Kyrie over that.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Why is that?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well, if any I mean guys that came you mean
guys that didn't take the shot became to New York
and were allowed to play.
Speaker 10 (18:23):
Yes, exactly, but no one got on them about it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Because because if anybody was getting on well at least us,
we weren't getting Rob correct me if I'm wrong, We
weren't getting on.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Kyrie for decide not to take the shot and.
Speaker 11 (18:38):
Say it hurts. It hurts to will the season, right,
I mean that's a fact, right. I didn't care if
you took the shot or not. My thing was like,
are you helping your team win or or or not?
And remember this, and James Horton said, James Harten said,
I'm gonna make him take the shot because we need him.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
You remember remember that.
Speaker 10 (19:00):
But I'm not talking good I think you guys are
the best on the radio. It's not you guys. I'm
just saying just the media, other media members. They got
on him for not taking it, but other players didn't
take it and weren't allowed to play. They didn't say
nothing about no one else.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
There's there's no doubt there were some people that were
just mad at him for not taking the shot.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Period.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
We talked about it from a basketball standpoint that and
you saw what Wiggins in Golden State, Chris right, he
was in the same exact situation, right, He couldn't play
home games, and he took the shot and wound up
having a great season for them and they won the championship.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
That could have been.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Kyrie, absolutely absolutely could have been Kyrie. And the people
that I guess jumped on him for not taking the shot.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
They were jumping on anybody that didn't take the shot.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, it was just Kyrie and obviously a very polarizing situation.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
No doubt.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Blonde Seahawks fan in Olympia, Washington, You're on the couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
What's up?
Speaker 12 (20:00):
I almost forgot about the COVID shot. That's how long
it's been since I've heard about that stuff. Man, what's
going on? Christian Roberry? Guy's doing.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
What's up? Man?
Speaker 6 (20:06):
We're good?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Good? How are you?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Oh? I'm good man.
Speaker 12 (20:09):
Just just hanging out listening to you guys.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
You know.
Speaker 12 (20:11):
But that's why I say this. I mean, look, Kyrie,
he has every right in the world to see, you know,
speak of what's on his mind, do what he does.
I mean, it's a freedom of speech. Like as an American,
we all have that. I mean, obviously you guys have it.
You work in the media, You could say what you
want to say. I mean, people all have the right
to disagree with him.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Right right.
Speaker 12 (20:30):
The COVID shot. It was a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Like I feel like it was probably like sixty forty.
Speaker 12 (20:35):
I like, people getting it and not getting it. I mean,
everyone had their own opinions, and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I mean for me, I.
Speaker 12 (20:41):
Don't think the media owes to him a pology. They
were just voicing their opinions first of all. Then second
of all, like he has, basketball wasn't up to par,
and I'm sawing Rob Jesus like he's improved a lot
drastically just in these playoffs alone, and even since like
the Probow Sunday in February of twenty twenty three, when
the Nets traded him over to the Mavericks. There hasn't
been any negative headlines about Kyrie since then. But I
(21:03):
think Kyrie is maturing as a man and realizing I
got to be here for my team. And I also
Rob this, I have all the effect for Kyrie now.
I mean, he he's there to do his job and
he's been falling out these playoffs. So like to be
honest with you, I'm rooting for him. And it would
be one thing if like today on Twitter, you know
on the Big Show that like there are still people
hating on Kyrie, there's not. People are giving them the
(21:24):
prop that he deserves, and and it's all it's okay
to criticize him because of all circumstances like forcing his
way out of Cleveland going to Boston. I think it's
perfectly okay for him, you know, for people to say
Kyrie leaves another.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Ring not beyond criticism, I don't know why people feel
like you can't criticize.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Exactly right, No, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
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Speaker 7 (24:12):
Sean the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight postponed. I don't
know if they'll even fight it is this something now?
I know it's an ulcer. Anybody can get it, but
when you're older and Mike Tyson here has got to
pull out or at least postpone it. Do you think
that people sanction this is going to start looking and
going like what are we doing here? If something bad happens,
are we going to be on the hook an older guy,
(24:35):
younger guy? What do you make of this fight and
whether or not they should even fight it?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I think it's unfortunate, right because that was a talk
from the beginning, So you know, when you have something
like this to happen, and there with the fight, I
think a fight was late July, right, It was late.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
July twentieth, I think.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
And so normally if even if a fighter at a
younger age is hurt or injured this far out I
mean you got all the jails you basically this call
it two months right or close to me? If he
was if he was if Mike was younger, he would
be able to recover no matter what it is and
still be ready for the fight. But as you said,
that age man like that father time's undefeated. What never
(25:13):
gonna beat him. And so when you when you get
any kind of injuries or something happened to you this late,
that bounce back into the same you just your health
don't turn around that fast. So it's gonna question. It's
gonna put a lot of questions going forward on first
of all, how it got sanctioned from the beginning. Yeah, Second,
you know, second, you know, it puts the stain on
you know, it sucks because I think Netflix was was smart.
(25:36):
I mean they were smart to do this. People said, oh,
that shouldn't happen, and it was smart because everybody's bunk
tuned in. But this is like Netflix's bigg as like
Boom coming out the gate and the live fighting, live
sports type of deal. So it kind of put a
little stain on that too.
Speaker 10 (25:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I wanted to see it happen, tell you the truth.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
What says I just want to follow up. You said
you want to see it happen. But here was my issue, Sean,
is letting Jake Paul eat off your legacy. If you're
Mike Tyson, you don't there's nothing good that can happen
if you beat Jake Paul.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Okay, you beat him.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
If you get knocked out, that's, you know, or the
knocked out of the ring, or look terrible or whatever.
Most people, these young people have never even seen Mike
Tyson fight. They don't they don't remember him when he
was knocking everybody out in thirty seconds. It's just to me,
unless you're just so down and out and need money,
to let Jake.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Paul eat off your legacy is the issue I had.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
See you know, Roberie, I would say that, but I
think this is it's a new day and age, right,
like when you talk about legacy, like everybody knows about
getting the bag and.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
It shouldn't be for sale. Though that's Sean, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I'm with you to pretend, but it's no different than
Floyd taking these exhibition matches for nine million, right, and
so that so my.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Thing is sixty years old.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I don't want to I don't want to. I don't
want to see Mike getting I want to see them.
I want to see the fight happen because actually think
that Mike had a better shot than most people think.
But you and I'm a legacy guy, like yo, don't
browl your reputation, like, don't come back because we want
to remember Mike Tyson as Iron Mike, right, So I
get it. I'm with that, But also at the same
time too, man, It's it's a different game out here now. Man.
(27:18):
It's less about legacy and more about getting a bag.
And I've kind of had to move my mind instead
of keeping like that old school mindset of how it
should be. It's about getting getting the bag out here, man.
That's that's what it came down to.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
How did you feel like this fight would go? You
said you thought, like, look.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
I don't mind seeing it if Tyson knocks him out,
but I do not have a stomach for seeing Jake
Paul beat Mike Tyson. How did you think this thing?
And I'm not saying he would.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's hard to gauge how a fifty eight year old
man would look, But how did you kind of see
it playing out?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I think that if Mike Tyson would get him. I
don't see Mike type doing anything passing through the fourth
round right because his gas, his gas tankts just gonna
be there because of this age, and Jake Paul hasn't
even if Mike fifty seven years old, Jake Paul hasn't
seen anybody that applot pressure to him. The closest person
that had him with Tyroon Willey, Tyron Whoodley. But Tyron
(28:17):
didn't press on the gas to really really go after
Jake when he had an opportunity. See if Mike it
might start pressure and dake Jake in those first three
or four rounds and hurt him. I think Mike had
a good chance win it because Jake has never seen
pressure from a professional boxer to that magnitude. And Tyron
Willie could have did it, he just never He just
never stepped in the gas.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
H Man, I hear you on that.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
What what do you think of the heavyweight division right now?
We saw us sick he beat Tyson Fury. It's interesting
you you know, Joshua has had a little bit of
a resurgence.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
What do you think of the heavyweight division right now?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It's not as I mean, it's not as strong as
it used to be because there's no one clear heavyweight
when you know you got to come you have seen
a holy Field or you haven't seen anybody when you
know there's going to be punishment, right, And a lot
of these guys are flip flop brought back and forth.
You know, Joshua Antie Joshua goes and knocks out Daniel
(29:16):
Francis Ganu even I know he's in the mmm A side,
but you know, a couple of fights ago, Antie Joshua
didn't look that great themselves, right, And so there's right
now the heavyweight division. You hope it come back and
research like it did, but there's not a heavyweight out here.
There's not too many heavyweights that that you really fear
like you fear holy Field, you feared Tightening, feared George Forman,
(29:41):
you feared these guys during their times, and we don't
have that right now. In boxing.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
It is not having a governing body over boxing and
people just willy nilly whatever they can get and make
their own deals. Has that hurt boxing because I just
it's it's really off the rear. There's so many kids
who will not be able to take that or give that.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
To their kids. Sean.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
You know, like when we watch fighting, I'm like, hey,
you kids, get off my lawn. But I watched Muhammad
Ali fight on a Saturday afternoon on ABC, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Like, I saw fights.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
All the fights are laid, all of them you have
to pay money for. There are a lot of kids
who have grown up not watching boxing. How in the
world do they do they share that with their sons
or their their families.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
You know what deal?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
What killed boxing? Rather be honest to that point, it's
been the manager to promotions and networks has been gardening
these guys, guarding the big fights, stopping it from happening
because they know that as soon as that one big
loss happened, that that money's gone. Right, It's almost like
you go back down to zero. And I don't agree
with that, and not really blame boxing fans for this,
(30:50):
Like just because you take a loss, right, just because
you take the laws, don't move you back down to zero.
That's why the UFC has conned over it, MA has
climbed over boxing because you're seeing the number one guy
fighting number three guys, the champions fighting number two guys, right,
the number eight guys fighting number seven guy, and that
the competition level, you're going to lose on fight. And
(31:11):
so everybody's so concerned on guys being twenty thirty, forty
and other like. We don't care no more. We want
to see the best fight possible and that's what lawing
boxes well.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
And that's why it's good that your your new streaming
platform is free.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
Hey, Sean, If it's free is for me, I'm signing up.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Hey. Look, that's why when people watching it just feel
a little better watching them when it's free.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Speaker 5 (32:31):
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you will see today's show. Post it right after we
get off the air. Rob g I talked about it
earlier with one of our guests.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
The Celtics are favorite. Give us the odds.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
That's right, according to Lamar Mitchell and the folks at
bet MGM. Shout out to Lamar's going on a cruise
coming up here to the big cruise.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I'm jealous of that.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
And you know, the Celtics have been favorites all year.
They have the favorites coming into the season. They were
the favorites entering the playoffs, and no surprise, they are
the favorites heading into the finals.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Even though most people agree.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
That their path has been late, that Dallas has looked
really good, that they've beaten three point fifty win teams,
which would be the first team to do that since
the twenty ten Lakers, and yet Boston at bet MGM
minus two to twenty five favorite, which makes them a
prohibitive favorite entering this series.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
So, Rob, you think they should be favorite? Why? Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Because they just the record they had this year, Chris
undefeated on the road, they got their experience that they've
been to the finals twelve and two.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
I just I look at them and think that they
should be the favorite.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
It doesn't mean that the Mavericks can't upset them or whatever,
but I do think if the Celtics can't win this championship,
I just don't know which one they're winning. Like they
had an easier path to get their and and that
guy's gonna get porzingis back, right, I mean, like everything's
(34:07):
lined up for them.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I do agree with you and that if they don't
win this one, when will it get done? Because you know,
there's a lot of good teams out there. This was
a very easy path for them. You heard Rob g
The Mavericks had to go through three fifty win teams.
These are the guys. I mean, granted Kawhi missed a
lot of that series, but still Paul George James Harden
(34:32):
with the Clippers second round, who they beat in the
second round, they beat Oklahoma City with you know, the
number one seed with Shay Gilgers, Alexander number two in
the MVP vote, the young ten then of course, yeah,
very young, youngest team ever to win a playoff series.
And then they beat of course Minnesota with Anthony Edwards,
(34:53):
Carled Anthony.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Towns, Rudy Gobert, and so on and so forth.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I don't think the you know, some people think that
Boston's gonna be in for a shock at the upgrade
and competition, you know, going from Indiana to Dallas. But
I don't know that that will be an issue for them.
But I just don't think they've been as them. I
(35:19):
haven't been that impressed with them in the playoffs. And
I know they've you know, like you said, twelve and two, uh,
and I it's winning advance, that's all that matters. And
it is impressive sweeping the team even if the games
are close.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
But these teams were so banged up.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
None of them won fifty games even when they were healthy,
and then they lost their best player.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
And Boston should have.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Made easy work of these teams, and they struggled. I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
No, I wanted them to not struggle against Indiana when
narse Halliburn's I just.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
I just think that, you know, I mean, Chris, you
could do it. You're like, no, I mean they did
struggle with the wins, and I.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
Just think you know, when you talk about uh, you
know the way.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
That they struggle. They had the best record in the league.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
They they played a lot of They played a much
lighter schedule than the Western conference sations.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
The East was not nearly as good as the West.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Yeah, but I'm just saying, but they also played them.
They didn't lose all the games to the Western team. No,
but they didn't win all of either. I'm just saying
I don't think they win sixty four games. I don't
think they necessarily had the best record if they are
in the West. I'm gonna tell you the Mavericks beating
teams with well over fifty wins, but they won't beat
a team with over sixty wins in the regular season.
How's that, rob G You got numbers?
Speaker 6 (36:36):
Oh, I got a lot of numbers.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Was nice.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
But now, guys, I know that we both think it's
gonna be a good series. But the folks in Vegas,
if this is just to be in any dcation, the
Celtics were underdogs just three times all season, tied for
the fewest by any team to reach the finals this century.
On the flip side, the MAVs were underdogs forty two times,
the most by any team this injury crazy only three times.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Remember we're like two different teams. Sure, and here's some more.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Again, like we said, the analytics, the numbers, the gamblers,
they love Boston.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Here's more.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
The Celtics were favored by at least seven points in
every playoff game this season. This when they open Game one,
they're currently six point favorites, which is their lowest number
of the postseason. So not only haven't faced the team right,
but what it shows though, is that the numbers market,
maybe not the basketball heads, but the numbers people say
(37:30):
this team's a juggernaut.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
This shit not ball year exactly, and for good reason.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Chris, who's sixty four wins?
Speaker 6 (37:39):
That's not like we haven't seen sixty four wins before.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I know.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I'm just saying that there's a reason why.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Who's got the player, what team has the best player
in the series.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
It doesn't matter about the best player, and it doesn't
guarantee you a win, but it doesn't matter A lot
of times.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It matters Dallas has the best player in the series.
I will grant that, and some people might dispute it.
I will grant Boston as the second and third best players,
and then I think Kyrie would be fourth, but some
might dispute that.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
But it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
I think a.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Big key will be how Boston defends Kyrie. Luca's gonna
get his But are they You know they they played
Kyrie well when they swept Brooklyn.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
A few years ago and Kevin Durant was.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
There, and so if they can bottle Kyrie, but that
was a different team, had Email Doak as the coach,
Marcus Smart, Robert Williams the third. But obviously they're still
great defensively. So that to me is big because if
Kyrie is able to have his way, that's gonna be
tough on Boss because I know Luca gonna have his way,
and so it should be good.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
But I do think it's sizing up to be a
good series.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
You saying six, Rob, yep, Boston, six, I got Dallas
and six. All right, we out y'all have a good
weekend push
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