June 7, 2024 • 40 mins
Chris and Rob discuss why Kyrie Irving has struggled so mightily against the Boston Celtics over the last few seasons – including in the NBA Finals. Plus, The Athletic Lakers reporter Jovan Buha swings by to discuss the latest on their Dan Hurley pursuit, what a potential Hurley contract might look like in Los Angeles, why JJ Redick might still be in the mix for vacant head coaching gig, what kind of role Anthony Davis has had in this whole process and much more! Finally, the Odd Couple Crew debates the best age for musicians to retire in this week’s edition of Shop Talk.
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all that good stuff. But in the meantime, in between time,
let's get back to the finals and Rob Kyrie Irving,
who has been praised to high heaven over the last
three weeks. And Kyrie we both know, we all know,
is an outstanding player, first ballot Hall of Famer, I know,
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the NBA Hall of Fame or Basketball Hall of Fame.
You know it gets a lot of criticism. Well, everybody's
a Hall of Famer. This dude is a legitimate first
time Hall of Fame. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Rob, Yes, But I'm not so sure he's gonna get there.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh gosh, yeah, he I'm just saying, especially now because
he you know, we'll see if he has any others
you know.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
No, but that you know what I'm saying, right right,
he's been a player as a player, he should get in.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
But I also think like he is enjoyed what I'll
call a reputation renaissance over this path. It's really this
whole season because he hasn't you know, he hasn't had
any issues off the court. He's been showing up and
playing every game when he's healthy, and obviously he's played to.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That's never been an issue, is bat I'm I think
the fact I think he I think, you know, he's
viewed rob as the leader of this team, the leader
of a team that could get to that got to
the finals. Not the best player, but the elite, the leader,
the elder statesman, if you will. And I do think
that's you know, some some The only reason why I
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made his image, if you will.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, the only reason why I you know.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Dennis Robman got in.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I flinched though, is that they didn't put him in
the top seventy five. And that was during his stuff, right,
And that's what I'm saying. So I think, because he
should be a top seventy five my first Battle of
Hall of Famer, but they kept him out of that,
And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But I don't even know if he was the first parton,
like Klay Thompson has to be in before him and
Clay didn't make it. I just think, but I think
there's an argument for Kyrie, but I don't think it
was like slam dunk, oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
When they put in another guy Dame Dollar who hadn't
won anything or Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Dame, Look, I'm just saying no, I think it's arguable.
I think you could argue.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I think that if.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Accolades, but if Kades, I think he would have been
in there.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
He might have. But that's different than the Hall of Fame. Obviously,
it's just more stringent than the Hall of Fame. But anyway, Rob,
last night, Kyrie shoots six for nineteen, zero for five
from three, and Rob, it didn't look like Kyrie irving
out there. He dribbled the ball off his foot. It's
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the best ball handler in the history of the NBA.
Dribbled the ball off his foot, was stumbling at one
point a few times. On one possession, hit the side
of the backboard on a corner three. That's the easiest
three point shot in the league, the side of the backboard.
And then just one pass, just threw out the bounds.
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I mean, I don't know what he was doing, just
threw it out of bounds. And Rob, he was back
in Boston. And Kyrie has lost his last eleven games
against the Celtics.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
That's incredible. I mean, remember that show. That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Right. Here's his numbers in those games. Rob twenty points
a game, which you know that's fine. But for Kyrie,
he's average twenty three in his career forty shooting. He's
a forty forty career shooter, twenty eight percent from three,
He's high thirties in three point percentage.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Here, it gets even worse the last four playoff games
for Kyrie. Now, you remember that when Brooklyn got swept
with Kyrie and Durant and they made Durant and Kyrie
look bad. But the first game, Game one, they barely lose,
Kyrie is awesome, drops thirty nine on him those remaining
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three games and then last night. So his last four
playoff games, he's averaging fourteen points a game against the
Celtics on thirty five percent shooting and twelve and a
half percent from three.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Rob, What do you make of this?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
You know a lot of people don't want to believe
in curses or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I always remember when the.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Are you actually about to go there?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I'm going there? Really like the curse of the Bambino,
know what that is? Right? Because because the Red Sox
sole Babe route to the Yankees, and that was a
long standing Chris whatever, they went eighty some odd years
without won five Yeah, whatever. You know, they went over
eighty somebody years and that was always the curse of
the Bambino.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Is there some sort of curse here? Are we looking at?
Speaker 6 (06:20):
What?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Kyrie's a great player?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Why is he scuffling and playing so poorly against this team?
His former team? When he stood up there and said,
I'll be back if you guys will have me, and
then he ditched and ran hip and he was out
Chris and I just wonder, And you know we've heard
him boo the heck out of him. Ye, last night
I missed that, did we? How bad were he even
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said it wasn't as bad? So it wasn't as bad
as normal? You remember before it used to be really bad?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think it was as bad
as like when he played in Brooklyn.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
But you know what I mean, I'm joshing half josh,
but it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Just seems won You remember when he stomped on Lucky.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
You know, since then, but everybody runs on Lucky's on
the court.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Everybody step at some point.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I think Rob that Look, first of all, they're a
great defensive team, and not just this year, so that's
part of it, right, They've they got great defenders. They
have Marcus Smart, They've had Derek White, now they got
Drew Holliday. Any of those guys on him, plus Tatum
and Brown defend what like. That's one thing is they
legitimately some of that, and they got length, like they're
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all bigger than Kyrie.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So there's that. Then I do Rob.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Now, I'll say this as a guy that picked the Mavericks,
Kyrie's got to play better if they're gonna win. I
did like his demeanor in the postgame press conference, like
he he did not seem frazzle, did not seem shook.
He was calm, he was smart, like he said fine,
which is a good I took it as a good sign.
But Rob, I'm not so certain that they might not
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get in his head. They might be in his head
a little. Like you said it, Rob, how do you
explain it?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
He's too good.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
But he went.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Against Minnesota, which was a top defensive team, and had
his way o caase he didn't play great. He averaged
fifteen and a half points a game in that series,
and they are a great defensive team. So I guess
if somebody wants to say, that's evidence that some you know,
really tough teams can bottle him up, Okay, but I
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personally think he's too good. And I'm gonna say this, Rob,
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Rob, kind of like I start off the.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Segment, Kyrie needs the ball, and I don't mean just
for the Celtics to win. Obviously that has to happen.
But Rob, we've talked about it. Kyrie over the past
few weeks has been called the most gifted player in
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NBA history. He's been called for a few years now,
the most skilled player in NBA.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
History, the best finisher at the basket.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Best finisher at the realm, a part of the greatest
offensive backcourt in NBA history, and I missing oh Lebron Wizard,
the best wingman in history. So you can't come out
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here and get shut down.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Drew Holliday is a great defender, and he's bigger and
stronger than Kyrie. But Rob, we watched Jimmy Butler make
minced meat out of Drew Holliday a year ago. Missed me,
all right, And I know Jimmy's stronger and bigger, but
he don't have two thirds to the skill that Kyrie's got.
If you that guy, and I'm not even out.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You know, I like Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm not trying to like mock him.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Are you calling them out?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
No, I'm not trying to mock him at all. I'm
just saying, with these accolades showering down on you, you
can't go out there like this.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You gotta come out there and ball.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Your handle, your jay, your finishing ability, your mid range,
your floater, your three.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
They should not be able to stop you.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And Rob.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Last night he missed five threes.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Three of them were wide One of them I was
closer to you right.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Now than any defender was to Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I mean one of them. Rob, he must have had
fifteen feet between him and the nearest defenders and missed it.
And that happened. Look, shooters, you missed sometimes. But three
of them were wide open. And one of them he
hit the side of the backboard. That wasn't a wide
open one, but he hit the side of the back
I think it was Peyton Pritchard was in his face.
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So I'm just saying, am I wrong? Racked? I mean
you've you've you like Kyrie too, but you've seen the accolades.
Maybe they've gotten a little a little bit out of hand,
But whatever the case, you can't. You gotta go out
there and play better than this when people are showering
you with this kind of praise.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Oh yeah, I mean right now, Luca did his thing,
Kyrie was uh m, I a Chris and and uh
people will be looking at it if this repeats on Sunday,
or if he continues to struggle, because then you could
keep If they lose that game and he struggles and
he's only twelve, you know, in his last twelve against
the Celtics, then you're going to start.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, and we'll be talking about it and asking him
questions about it.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Well, how come you can't beat this team?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
How come you're when you started throwing that number out
there like, I don't know if anybody has bought it
up yet, but that'll happen, you know, and it'll be
rightfully so that you could ask that, Chris, that's a
big enough sample size, that's not that's not oh and
three in your last three games against that twelve games
or eleven eleven and counting, absolutely rob And and you
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know if it gets to o and twelve, then.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
No smileing, no, no, no joke, no, you know that's
not gonna be the answer. I don't care how calm
you look, how comfortable you look, what you say, people
are gonna be like your oh and twelve and you're
shooting below forty percent against them in your last hand
for what's going on. So yeah, so I think he's capable.
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I mean, look, I picked Dallas to win, and part
of that was that Kyrie's gonna do his thing. And
you're right, Luca wasn't awesome, but he was, you know,
he played well enough for them to win. He bought him,
needed some help, and so Kyrie's got to give it
to him, all right? Eight seven seven ninety nine on
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Or do you expect him to bust out? And with
all the praise he's been getting, he must bust out? Right?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Or is it just me?
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Speaker 5 (14:40):
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Speaker 4 (14:44):
You're on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up beat?
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Good gentlemen?
Speaker 8 (14:49):
O good you guys doing.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Doing you right?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Man? Were great?
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Right?
Speaker 8 (14:53):
Yeah? As of right now, it looks like they have
their card against They got their number against Kyrie. I
don't know why that's in the last one two three
years that they just they just know how to play
him and guard him, and he has a hard time scoring.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Let if you if you that guy, what do we
always hear?
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
You can't stop a great player. You can only make
it tough on him. You can only hope to contain him.
They're stopping Kyrie.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
And that was the one reason why I picked Boston
because I was like, hey, Kyrie has a hard time
scoring against them, and they.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Really and they do have four.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
Bodies where they can switch off on him, and I
know that makes it hard. So yeah, it sucks for Kyrie.
But he gots to figure it out because he has
to getting all the prop phrase and everything.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
H Yeah, figure it out. He has to figure it out.
You gotta figure this out, and you know so, and
I think he will, but he better do it and
better do it fast. Rob g You you a Kyrie Hayter?
Speaker 9 (16:04):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I'm a Kyrie unless he joins the Lakers. Until he
joins the Lakers, future laker, you're.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
Gonna hate future Laker Jason Tatum.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
By the way, that's part of the reason why I
picked the MAVs, because if they win, he ain't never
come in, so you gonna lose. But with Kyrie Irving,
even though I personally am optimistic about him, especially in
game two, usually we have a game that poor, you're
gonna bounce back in a big way the following game,
So I feel good about that. Having said that, though
this Kyrie situation is not just about him having to
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step up, I don't I don't think that's the issue
with him.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
Okay, if you look at the numbers and Chris you
allude to it.
Speaker 10 (16:40):
Earlier in his career, he averages about twenty five and
a half points on fifty percent shooting from three.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 10 (16:49):
In the eleven straight losses to Boston, his numbers have
gone down. He's averaging twenty points a game on forty
one percent shooting and twenty eight percent from three. That's
a big drop in the shooting percent in the last
six games.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Now, where'd you get those career numbers.
Speaker 10 (17:06):
That's on CBS Sports. It might be might be related
to this season, it might be for this, that's that,
that might have been misphrased. But the thing is is
and and I'm gonna piece it all together. I don't
believe it's an issue of him stepping up. I believe
it's an issue of him wanting so badly to stick
it to Boston and stick it to those fans because
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of the way that they've talked about him and the
way they treated him over the last five or six years.
Mike Gorman was on ninety eight five The Sports of
in Boston Today, and he talked about the game, and
and and the.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
Whole details of it whatever.
Speaker 10 (17:38):
One thing that he said that kind of got somehow
lost in the ether of sports talk media is he
said he was sitting a few rows back from a fan.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
He was found in the sixth row.
Speaker 10 (17:49):
He was about the eighth row, and Kyrie had a
running dialogue, according to Gorman, with this guy in the
sixth row, up and down the court, yelling at night
last night, yelling, yelling at him, kind of giving him
the finger on the sneak the entire time, and Kyrie
this whole situation with Boston is not about it's hard
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enough for him to score on Drewale.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
Your aladays great.
Speaker 10 (18:12):
The defense as a hole is great, but Kyrie has
made it personal. And when you make it personal, you
step outside yourself and you don't do the things that
make you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Kyrie Irving, well, he's gotta be stronger than that him
getting in a free You're in the finals and you're
in a running dialogue with some fan. I can gotta
be stronger than that. I'm sorry, you're empowering that fan.
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Rob If Kyrie ignored that dude, that would the guy
would like he loves the fact that Kyrie goes back.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
With him, right that that you can get somebody's attention
and break their focus. Yep, because it doesn't It really
doesn't make sense to even be engaged in that.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
What would you care at all?
Speaker 10 (19:00):
Well, you know what's interesting, guys, is his teammate Luka
Doncis is the exact opposite when Kyri. When lucas into
it with somebody and he's chirping and he's cursing all
this stuff, it gets him going and he plays better.
And Kyrie just might be one of those guys that
when he's that personally invested and emotionally invested in it.
It takes him away from what he weighs HI great
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and makes him worse.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well, he look, he better get off of that. He
better get off of that. And he's talked about his maturity,
how he's grown, and I don't doubt that in terms
of his personal life and stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
But you have to.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Show that on the court too, because no, there's no
reason like you. You're thirty two years old, You're the
elder statesman on the team. You're the voice of reason
in the locker room. These dudes are looking at you
as a leader, and you yelling with some dude on
the sideline right looking down the court. No, you gotta
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be better than that.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
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Speaker 4 (20:04):
What's up? Mike?
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Hey, Rob and Chris? Uh. It's just you know, don't
get offit the brothers. But it's funny to me how
all these media people were calling the Joker the greatest
player on the planet. Did he did he lose this?
And then everybody goes, Okay, let's establish Luca as the
greatest player right now in the game. Well, Kyrie, that's.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Not everybody, but some peoplesion.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
But hold on, Chris, hold on, Chris, I'm gonna he
ain't gonna let me talking.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah real quick.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Yeah, But if, but if, when Kyrie plays well like
you did last series, Luca got all the credits. Last night,
Luca only got one assist. But I keep hearing Chris go, oh,
we're gonna play well. We ain't gonna talk about him,
We're gonna just we're gonna rip Kyrie. Had that been
Lebron James, you would have destroyed him and said, oh, see,
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Lebron can't come through the big.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Had had who been Lebron James?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And keeping the stay on because it sounds like you're
trying to call me out. Had who been Lebron?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Has had Lucas scored? Had Lebron James scored thirty five points.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Thirty points, ten rebounds, one assist is what he did.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Yes, you would have criticized him and said he couldn't
get it his players in ball, really.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Because I didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I don't even remember killing Lebron when he scored average
seventeen and seven against Dallas in twenty eleven. What are
you talking about.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
I'm talking about I wouldn't have killed Lebron. Oh he's
not going to be talking. Okay, go ahead, Chris, but
it is my show.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You asked me a question.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I'm giving.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Yeah, I said respectfully. I said respectfully. I just want
to get it again. I didn't want you to get
a finished.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
No, but you accused it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I'm giving. I'm answering your question.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You were accusing me of doing something that I would
not have done. I'm not a Lebron James hater. If
I feel like he deserves criticism, I'll do it. But
you can't sit up here and tell me if that
was Lebron you would have done. You You out of
your mind.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
No, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
I'm not accusing. I'm asking you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You just did.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Okay, you're not gonna let me talk. Like I said,
go ahead and keep ripping Kyrie. But it's a shame
that you got to do that. All I'm saying is, no,
he's playing against his former team. They know him well.
Let the brother get going and let's see what happens.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Let me ask you, Let me ask you a question,
because you're you're bringing race into it because you really said, Yo,
Kich and Luca that we people been speaking favorably of
them and then criticizing Lebron and Kyrie.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Be honest about it?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Is that what you're saying unequivocally, I'm being absolutely out.
Absolutely it's racial. Absolutely Okay, So.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Say your whole thing with your chest, clear words, not
any any misdirections.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
What are you saying.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
I'm saying, I'm asking you a question. Why is Kyrie
getting the burden of.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
The because he shot six for nineteen.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
He had a bad night last like I mean yeah,
I mean like okay, So.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Last series we scored thirty points against Oklahoma City. Why
the previous round they played? Why wouldn't you guys give
him the credit?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
We were Chris, We didn't give.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Luca all the credit. We gave Luca and Kyrie major credit.
I said, if they win.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
This championship, they will be the second greatest backcourt offensively. Ever.
All right, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Did we not give Kyrie any credit for the last week?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Gave him credit? And what I said to you yesterday
was because I wish.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I would have kept him Moore.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah, No, we got we got it. It's all good.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
At least he called in, and we appreciate the right
the conversation, so it's.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
A good conversation.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
We are right, that's okay, you don't have to and
we can.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Talk about it again.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
But I just don't think I think he's way off.
I mean, Kyrie shot six for nineteen, Kyrie, Kyrie is.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Going to be beat up on a day shoot six
for nineteen. The team was down by twenty seven at
one point and they lose yeh right, right.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
If Lucas shot that and they lost Chris, it would
be like.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Oh, he's supposed to be Lucas, supposed to be one
of the great great players, and he had a stinker
in a game like that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Absolutely absolutely, And we gave Kyrie plenty of crit that
was part of the whole thing. We're just talking about
all the accolades that he's gotten. I said, he's arguably
the most skilled player ever.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
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Speaker 1 (24:43):
All Right, it is The Eye Couple. Chris and Rob
Yovan Boo high around the corner. First, Steve disagree with
the up day Steve Steve Hey.
Speaker 11 (24:49):
The NBA Finals Game twos at Boston on Sunday night.
Then Dallas will host games three and four on Wednesday
and Friday of next week. Boston at home in the
regular season went thirty seven and four, and they won
Game one of these finals at home by eighteen points,
led by twenty nine in the first half. In fact,
Boston finished with nine block shots. Dallas as a team
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had only nine assists. The ratings are out for the
NBA Finals opener last night, and yet again the Finals
have opened below the fourteen million viewer wow for a
sixth straight year. This was eleven million viewers on ABC
last night, so it's down five percent from last year.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Surprised by that these team Boston's the big market.
Speaker 11 (25:30):
It's down ten percent from when it was Boston Golden
State a couple of years ago. And noticeably it is
lower again than the College championship game. The two Yukon
Final four games were both over fourteen million this spring,
and that was cable only in the wn.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Surprised to be on ABC, you know everybody can watch
locally As for.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Me, wonder if the nine day delay just took some
of the steam out of it. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 11 (25:56):
Yeah, I think the game itself didn't help that part too. Yeah,
the audience went from about twelve million at one point
to nine million later. That I mean, you lose a
fourth of your audience down twenty because right, we talked
about the run and it was brief in the third quarter,
but didn't Dallas go from down twenty one to down
twenty by the end of the third quarter and then
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lose by eighteen.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
So that was that.
Speaker 11 (26:20):
As for the WNBA, it's two to nine Indiana early
in the third quarter, now trailing forty three forty two
at winless Washington, which is zero to ten. Caitlin Clark
with ten points in the first half for assists, three turnovers,
three steals to Major League Baseball. The Mariners lead seven
to nothing in the first inning at Kansas City, and
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the White Sox are actually winning in the third one
nothing over Boston. Notable because the Carla Sucks have lost
fourteen games in a row. Yankees Dodgers scoreless end of five.
Dodgers have left five on base and Yoshinobu Yamamoto six
and two is the Dodger starting pitcher tonight against a
Yankee team that's one one to eight in a row.
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Yankee outfielder Won Soto out of the starting lineup tonight
with a sore forearm, although MRI just showed inflammation. Also
in progress. Orioles winning again four to three at Tampa
Bay in the bottom of the sixth. It's a national
still shutting out the Atlanta Braves two nothing in the eighth,
and the Brewers, who've lost three straight, lead ten nothing
at Detroit at the seventh inning stretch.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Back to you, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Steve Relavefromti right dot com Studios. Our next guest covers
the Lakers for The Athletic. He's the host of Boha's
Block podcast. Check it out, Yo Vron Boohai, friend of
the show, Yo Viron.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
What's happening, Yo Yo?
Speaker 12 (27:36):
How's it going?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Guys doing great?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Great?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Man?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I know you are busy working these phones. So what's the.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Latest with Dan Hurley? Do you know, like after they finished, well,
just tell us the latest.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (27:49):
So this has been unlike any story I've ever covered.
You know, like teams are often secretive with trade situations
and free signings, and you'll have moves like I remember
covering the Clippers back in twenty eighteen, and there'd been
some minkling that Kawhi Leonard was going to be going there,
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but no one had the intel on Paul George and
that was just this bombshell that came out of nowhere.
And so you'll see stuff like that, but rarely do
you see it with a coaching situation. And we had
had five weeks going on where JJ Redick, all the
intel was, you know, talking to people within the organization,
talk to people outside the organization, but with ties to
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the players, different things, Like all the buzz was JJ Redick,
JJ Redick from the beginning of the process. And to
have a situation like this where Dan Hurley comes off
the top rope out of nowhere and becomes the front
runner yesterday morning, Like it's just unlike anything I've can
(28:52):
recall seeing. But latest, you know he used in LA
meeting with the Lakers. You know, I haven't been trying
to get intel in terms of how that those meetings went,
but you know, I don't have a great read on that,
but I did hear that it was a very small meeting,
just meeting with Genie Buz and Rob Polinka. Uh so,
(29:15):
you know, kind of kind of keeping it insular there
in terms of uh just you know what they're talking
about and how that's going. But you know, it's it's
I've heard they're going to make him a very serious offer.
He's going to be mulling it over over the weekend
and we will likely have an answer one way or
the other by the end of the weekend. So it
seems like things are moving pretty quickly and he could
(29:36):
be the Lakers head coached by potentially Sunday night.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
And I didn't think JJ Reddick was a good fit
for Lebron. I didn't like a guy never coached, and
you know Lebron's in his last couple of years. But
what happened to JJ Reddick, I mean, wasn't it wasn't.
Wasn't it reported like it was almost a foregone conclusion
and now it fell to nothing.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
What happened to JJ?
Speaker 6 (30:04):
So I've been told.
Speaker 12 (30:05):
That there are people that you know, I've spoken with
that are still a bit skeptical of Hurley being the
true front runner and Reddick's still having a legitimate shot
in this process. And if for whatever reason, Hurley goes
back to Yukon and maybe they make him a Godfather offer,
or he just gets cold feet and changes his mind
(30:27):
and decides to stay there. Lakers will obviously have to
move in a different direction, and I believe that direction
will still be jj Reddick.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
That looks weird to me because it feels like he
won your first choice.
Speaker 12 (30:41):
That's true. Now, the Lakers have dealt with this before,
where they went after Tylou and Monty Williams and ended
up settling on Frank Logel and he's he won a
championship though he was only there for three years. So
like they have helped dealt with this before. This is
the weird part of it to me was, you know,
the reporting coming out, and I don't ever want to
go against anyone's reporting, but something about it, you know,
(31:05):
coming out that well, Hurley was the favorite the whole time.
Like it doesn't pass the smell test to me, because
in talking to people again close to the situation, there
were plenty of people that had not heard of Hurley
as a candidate at all, and maybe Rob Lincoln and
the Lakers were able to keep this secretive from even
people within the organization. And again people close to the
(31:25):
organization and maybe that was the case, but you know,
to me kind of reading the tea leaves, it seems
more like Hurley was probably an initial candidate. He didn't
have interest and maybe turned them down or said, you know,
just wasn't the right time, And something changed within the
last couple of days where it was like, you know what,
I'm actually ready for it, I'm interested. You guys haven't
(31:46):
hired anybody yet, like you know, I'm considering it, And
that seems to be you know, him kind of cracking
that door open, getting back into it. And I do
think if Hurley was interested from the beginning, and it
was Hurley verrus a Edia Reddick, I think the Lakers
would leaning forward Dan Hurley like it's I mean, he's
a top coaching college about right now. He checks all
the boxes. So like the fact that this vacancy has
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been there for over five weeks and all the buzz
has been JJ Reddick and no mention of Dan Hurley,
something doesn't check out. And I'm still trying to kind
of figure go suff through it all and figure it out.
But like the notion that he was a favorite this
whole time, and it was this giant secret, Like that's
a pretty big secret to keep for over a month.
Like you know, sometimes again with with with trades and signings,
(32:31):
it'll be a secret for twenty four hours, forty eight hours,
even seventy two hours. But keeping this type of secret
for five weeks, I just I don't know if I
fully buy that.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
There has been some talk to Anthony Davis might not
want jj Reddick, might prefer Borega. I mean, now, obviously
Hurley's in the mix, But have you heard any of
that you think and that there could be any truth
to that?
Speaker 12 (32:53):
So I haven't heard that he does not want j Reddick.
I have heard that he is very fond of James Barrego. Uh.
They What's what's kind of funny with it is they
only overlapped for about a month and a half in
New Orleans. If you look at Ady gets uh drafted
in late June, uh, and then James Barrego leaves New
Orleans joins Orlando in early August. So there's about like
(33:16):
a five six week period there where they overlap in
New Orleans. That clearly left some type of impression on
ad because from what I've been told, they have a
strong rapport and that has been a guy that Ad
has been uh, you know, backing and the voicing his
support for. So I think part of the reason why
Barrego has been so strongly considered has been the Lakers
(33:39):
taking into account what Anthony Davis wants and they have
said that this is going to be more of an
ad Higher than a Lebron James Higher. So, you know,
everything we have reported at the Athletic and that you
know others that had reported and touched on was the
this folks, you know, the coaching search of and focused
on JJ Reddick and James Barrego, and it was looking
like it was coming down to those two guys and
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the Lakers the siding between them, with Reddick being the
favorite between the two. And then now things obviously change
and it looks like it's it's more likely to be Hurley,
and then if not Hurly, they will reopen the process.
And I still think redk would be the number two
choice right now. But I mean, if they're offering Hurly
some of the reported figures that are out.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
There, now, let me ask you that was my next question,
is that one hundred million dollars is what is being reported,
and is that what is going to cost to get
them to leave stores? Connecticut one hundred million, So I
would not have heard.
Speaker 12 (34:35):
That high of a number. I think there's obviously some
shock value with that, and there's a spectacle element to that,
you know, I've heard somewhere more closer to like five
to six years and eleven to thirteen million dollars annually,
like hitting that double digit mark, and then it's just
being a matter of you know, is it you know,
(34:56):
on the lower end, like five years eleven million, on
the higher end, six years seventy eight eighty million. So
like that that eight year, one hundred million dollar deal
would check out from like an annual value perspective. I
have not heard eight years from people I've talked to,
But uh, I mean that's a godfather offer that Like
it's it's hard to turn that down because you have
(35:16):
not the security in that point, Like you're basically, well,
that's what you're uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
He's going to need that.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
If I were him and I had Connecticut in my
back pocket, I would be demanding something like that. So
I know, like I can't be you know, dismissed, you know,
quickly if Lebron or a d or anybody you know
tires of me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 12 (35:38):
Yeah, no, and then that's that's so. I mean, that's
the ultimate secure one hundred million dollars. If you're getting
eight years undred dollars, if you got to let go
after your two or three, you're still getting paid that money.
And then your next contract, if you say in the NBA,
your next contract will offset some of that. But you're
getting you're getting the one hundred million, whether it's from
Lakers or someone else, you're guarantee that.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
All right, that's our man, Jovan b great your body.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Have a great weekend. Yes, I know you're chasing this stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I say that for I've been there. Yeah, right, man,
have a good weekend later, all right, this is more
Hot Couple coming away. Shop Talk is next Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
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Speaker 1 (36:29):
Double Chris and Rob live from thee Tirereight dot Com studios.
On the Funky Flashback Friday, it's time.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
For shop Talk.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
That's right.
Speaker 10 (36:37):
It is shop talk here on the AAC couple Fox
Sports Radio say when we talk about something happen outside
of the world of sports. This week's topic comes to
us from the world of music. Stub Hub just released
their list of the most popular most in demand summer
concerts coming up for twenty twenty four. Number one, no surprise,
Taylor Swift. Everyone knew that one. But number three the
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bronze medalist at the ripe age of eighty Across the board,
The Rolling Stones are the third most popular ticket for
this summer's concert series, which got me thinking, Guys, if
you are a fan of the Rolling Stone, which they
have plenty of them, is it still worth it to
you to be paying top dollar to see an eighty
year old Mick Jagger shaking his hips around Chris Bussard.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Well, look, I don't know how much he can move
at eighty. Maybe he's moving a lot. I don't know,
But I would say this, if you are a big
fan of the Rolling Stones, you probably would still want
to go one just to hear the songs. Right, You
love the songs, so you want to hear those, And certainly,
if you've never seen Mick Jagger, you might want to.
(37:44):
I mean, who knows where you'll be sitting, but you know,
you might just want to be in that atmosphere. So
I get it. Obviously, at eighty you can't perform anywhere
near like you used to, but I just think for
the music, people still would probably want to go.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I am a big Rolling Stones fan. I saw them
at Michigan State. I was up close to the stage.
It was it was tremendous. And this is back twenty
five years ago.
Speaker 9 (38:12):
Chris a long day.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
They were old then, but that's still but that's different
than eight.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
But I enjoyed, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
And was he able to move it?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it was tremendous. I still I
still loved every minute of it.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
And as they get older, people do want to People
do want to make sure that they get to see them.
I remember I told you I saw James Brown at
the end.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
I saw him. I was happy I went.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
I was talked out of going to see Frank Sinatra
when he was older, and I regret it to this
day because I never saw him perform live right so
to this day. So I can see where people thinking
this could be their last concert. You know what I mean, like,
like I could see why their tickets are still high
and they had an incredible Chris, they do. I mean,
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Mick Jagger knows guys, and he's a real singer. He's
not a studio singer. Mick Jagger can sing.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I saw Earth Wind and Fire.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
My wife and I went out maybe five six years ago,
and I don't even know how many of them were
the originals, but it was a couple of them at least.
But it was still great. It was great. So you know, yeah,
I mean, where are you at on that route?
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Rob g Yeah? Are you? Are you a Rolling Stones
fan out there?
Speaker 10 (39:26):
I actually my dad and a few of the records,
so I think we still have them in the ground.
I have no issue whatsoever with people paying top dollar
for whatever if you want to see your favorite artists
at whatever age. Because Robert we talked about your Frank
Sinatra story. I would give anything to even see like
whatever the last year of Frank Sinatra's life when his
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voice was shot.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I know it should.
Speaker 9 (39:50):
Chris, I would have loved to have seen say that
I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I still I'm still bummed that I let somebody talk
me out and Chris.
Speaker 10 (39:58):
To your point, I saw her and fire To about
seven eight years ago here in southern California. There was
only two of the original members that were performing, and
you couldn't tell me anything.
Speaker 9 (40:07):
I still had a blast watching them, right right, Mary.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I had a great time. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 13 (40:13):
I I'm all for it because I'm a person who
are like, if I love that artist, I love it
till the day they die. So but then again, like
I also don't relate because like I wouldn't go pay
top doll let to go see Rollings.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I thought Mary, Mary was gonna say, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
I don't know who don't say you haven't heard of
the Rolling Stone.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I actually haven't.
Speaker 13 (40:32):
I've played one of them last I literally I just
checked my Apple Music I don't have any of their music, saying, well,
that's one thing.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I don't know any of their music. Surprised about that.
But you never even heard of them? I have no
I've heard of them.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Oh okay, I mean I get around for sixty years.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
But yeah, I mean they're one of the biggest bands ever.
So yeah, all right, we got an hour left, y'all
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Over a three hour show.
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At the bottom of the hour, Yovonn Buha, who covers
the Lakers for The Athletic also the host of Booha's
Block podcast. He'll join us to bring us up to
date on everything. Dan Hurley Rob flew out to LA
to meet with the Lakers today, So maybe Yovonn has
some information on that. So we'll talk to him about
(01:21):
all that good stuff. But in the meantime, in between time,
let's get back to the finals and Rob Kyrie Irving,
who has been praised to high heaven over the last
three weeks. And Kyrie we both know, we all know,
is an outstanding player, first ballot Hall of Famer, I know,
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the NBA Hall of Fame or Basketball Hall of Fame.
You know it gets a lot of criticism. Well, everybody's
a Hall of Famer. This dude is a legitimate first
time Hall of Fame. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Rob, Yes, But I'm not so sure he's gonna get there.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh gosh, yeah, he I'm just saying, especially now because
he you know, we'll see if he has any others
you know.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
No, but that you know what I'm saying, right right,
he's been a player as a player, he should get in.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
But I also think like he is enjoyed what I'll
call a reputation renaissance over this path. It's really this
whole season because he hasn't you know, he hasn't had
any issues off the court. He's been showing up and
playing every game when he's healthy, and obviously he's played to.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That's never been an issue, is bat I'm I think
the fact I think he I think, you know, he's
viewed rob as the leader of this team, the leader
of a team that could get to that got to
the finals. Not the best player, but the elite, the leader,
the elder statesman, if you will. And I do think
that's you know, some some The only reason why I
(02:56):
made his image, if you will.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, the only reason why I you know.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Dennis Robman got in.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I flinched though, is that they didn't put him in
the top seventy five. And that was during his stuff, right,
And that's what I'm saying. So I think, because he
should be a top seventy five my first Battle of
Hall of Famer, but they kept him out of that,
And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But I don't even know if he was the first parton,
like Klay Thompson has to be in before him and
Clay didn't make it. I just think, but I think
there's an argument for Kyrie, but I don't think it
was like slam dunk, oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
When they put in another guy Dame Dollar who hadn't
won anything or Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Dame, Look, I'm just saying no, I think it's arguable.
I think you could argue.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I think that if.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Accolades, but if Kades, I think he would have been
in there.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
He might have. But that's different than the Hall of Fame. Obviously,
it's just more stringent than the Hall of Fame. But anyway, Rob,
last night, Kyrie shoots six for nineteen, zero for five
from three, and Rob, it didn't look like Kyrie irving
out there. He dribbled the ball off his foot. It's
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the best ball handler in the history of the NBA.
Dribbled the ball off his foot, was stumbling at one
point a few times. On one possession, hit the side
of the backboard on a corner three. That's the easiest
three point shot in the league, the side of the backboard.
And then just one pass, just threw out the bounds.
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I mean, I don't know what he was doing, just
threw it out of bounds. And Rob, he was back
in Boston. And Kyrie has lost his last eleven games
against the Celtics.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
That's incredible. I mean, remember that show. That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Right. Here's his numbers in those games. Rob twenty points
a game, which you know that's fine. But for Kyrie,
he's average twenty three in his career forty shooting. He's
a forty forty career shooter, twenty eight percent from three,
He's high thirties in three point percentage.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Here, it gets even worse the last four playoff games
for Kyrie. Now, you remember that when Brooklyn got swept
with Kyrie and Durant and they made Durant and Kyrie
look bad. But the first game, Game one, they barely lose,
Kyrie is awesome, drops thirty nine on him those remaining
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three games and then last night. So his last four
playoff games, he's averaging fourteen points a game against the
Celtics on thirty five percent shooting and twelve and a
half percent from three.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Rob, What do you make of this?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
You know a lot of people don't want to believe
in curses or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I always remember when the.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Are you actually about to go there?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I'm going there? Really like the curse of the Bambino,
know what that is? Right? Because because the Red Sox
sole Babe route to the Yankees, and that was a
long standing Chris whatever, they went eighty some odd years
without won five Yeah, whatever. You know, they went over
eighty somebody years and that was always the curse of
the Bambino.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Is there some sort of curse here? Are we looking at?
Speaker 6 (06:20):
What?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Kyrie's a great player?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Why is he scuffling and playing so poorly against this team?
His former team? When he stood up there and said,
I'll be back if you guys will have me, and
then he ditched and ran hip and he was out
Chris and I just wonder, And you know we've heard
him boo the heck out of him. Ye, last night
I missed that, did we? How bad were he even
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said it wasn't as bad? So it wasn't as bad
as normal? You remember before it used to be really bad?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think it was as bad
as like when he played in Brooklyn.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
But you know what I mean, I'm joshing half josh,
but it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Just seems won You remember when he stomped on Lucky.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
You know, since then, but everybody runs on Lucky's on
the court.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Everybody step at some point.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I think Rob that Look, first of all, they're a
great defensive team, and not just this year, so that's
part of it, right, They've they got great defenders. They
have Marcus Smart, They've had Derek White, now they got
Drew Holliday. Any of those guys on him, plus Tatum
and Brown defend what like. That's one thing is they
legitimately some of that, and they got length, like they're
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all bigger than Kyrie.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So there's that. Then I do Rob.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Now, I'll say this as a guy that picked the Mavericks,
Kyrie's got to play better if they're gonna win. I
did like his demeanor in the postgame press conference, like
he he did not seem frazzle, did not seem shook.
He was calm, he was smart, like he said fine,
which is a good I took it as a good sign.
But Rob, I'm not so certain that they might not
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get in his head. They might be in his head
a little. Like you said it, Rob, how do you
explain it?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
He's too good.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
But he went.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Against Minnesota, which was a top defensive team, and had
his way o caase he didn't play great. He averaged
fifteen and a half points a game in that series,
and they are a great defensive team. So I guess
if somebody wants to say, that's evidence that some you know,
really tough teams can bottle him up, Okay, but I
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personally think he's too good. And I'm gonna say this, Rob,
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Rob, kind of like I start off the.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Segment, Kyrie needs the ball, and I don't mean just
for the Celtics to win. Obviously that has to happen.
But Rob, we've talked about it. Kyrie over the past
few weeks has been called the most gifted player in
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NBA history. He's been called for a few years now,
the most skilled player in NBA.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
History, the best finisher at the basket.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Best finisher at the realm, a part of the greatest
offensive backcourt in NBA history, and I missing oh Lebron Wizard,
the best wingman in history. So you can't come out
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here and get shut down.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Drew Holliday is a great defender, and he's bigger and
stronger than Kyrie. But Rob, we watched Jimmy Butler make
minced meat out of Drew Holliday a year ago. Missed me,
all right, And I know Jimmy's stronger and bigger, but
he don't have two thirds to the skill that Kyrie's got.
If you that guy, and I'm not even out.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You know, I like Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm not trying to like mock him.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Are you calling them out?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
No, I'm not trying to mock him at all. I'm
just saying, with these accolades showering down on you, you
can't go out there like this.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You gotta come out there and ball.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Your handle, your jay, your finishing ability, your mid range,
your floater, your three.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
They should not be able to stop you.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And Rob.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Last night he missed five threes.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Three of them were wide One of them I was
closer to you right.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Now than any defender was to Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I mean one of them. Rob, he must have had
fifteen feet between him and the nearest defenders and missed it.
And that happened. Look, shooters, you missed sometimes. But three
of them were wide open. And one of them he
hit the side of the backboard. That wasn't a wide
open one, but he hit the side of the back
I think it was Peyton Pritchard was in his face.
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So I'm just saying, am I wrong? Racked? I mean
you've you've you like Kyrie too, but you've seen the accolades.
Maybe they've gotten a little a little bit out of hand,
But whatever the case, you can't. You gotta go out
there and play better than this when people are showering
you with this kind of praise.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Oh yeah, I mean right now, Luca did his thing,
Kyrie was uh m, I a Chris and and uh
people will be looking at it if this repeats on Sunday,
or if he continues to struggle, because then you could
keep If they lose that game and he struggles and
he's only twelve, you know, in his last twelve against
the Celtics, then you're going to start.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, and we'll be talking about it and asking him
questions about it.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Well, how come you can't beat this team?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
How come you're when you started throwing that number out
there like, I don't know if anybody has bought it
up yet, but that'll happen, you know, and it'll be
rightfully so that you could ask that, Chris, that's a
big enough sample size, that's not that's not oh and
three in your last three games against that twelve games
or eleven eleven and counting, absolutely rob And and you
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know if it gets to o and twelve, then.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
No smileing, no, no, no joke, no, you know that's
not gonna be the answer. I don't care how calm
you look, how comfortable you look, what you say, people
are gonna be like your oh and twelve and you're
shooting below forty percent against them in your last hand
for what's going on. So yeah, so I think he's capable.
(12:43):
I mean, look, I picked Dallas to win, and part
of that was that Kyrie's gonna do his thing. And
you're right, Luca wasn't awesome, but he was, you know,
he played well enough for them to win. He bought him,
needed some help, and so Kyrie's got to give it
to him, all right? Eight seven seven ninety nine on
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Speaker 3 (13:12):
Or is it just me?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
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Is there more to this? Your thoughts A couple?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
All right, Chris, let's kick it off with Brandon and Riverside, California.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
You're on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up beat?
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Good gentlemen?
Speaker 8 (14:49):
O good you guys doing.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Doing you right?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Man? Were great?
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Right?
Speaker 8 (14:53):
Yeah? As of right now, it looks like they have
their card against They got their number against Kyrie. I
don't know why that's in the last one two three
years that they just they just know how to play
him and guard him, and he has a hard time scoring.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Let if you if you that guy, what do we
always hear?
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
You can't stop a great player. You can only make
it tough on him. You can only hope to contain him.
They're stopping Kyrie.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
And that was the one reason why I picked Boston
because I was like, hey, Kyrie has a hard time
scoring against them, and they.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Really and they do have four.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
Bodies where they can switch off on him, and I
know that makes it hard. So yeah, it sucks for Kyrie.
But he gots to figure it out because he has
to getting all the prop phrase and everything.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
H Yeah, figure it out. He has to figure it out.
You gotta figure this out, and you know so, and
I think he will, but he better do it and
better do it fast. Rob g You you a Kyrie Hayter?
Speaker 9 (16:04):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I'm a Kyrie unless he joins the Lakers. Until he
joins the Lakers, future laker, you're.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
Gonna hate future Laker Jason Tatum.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
By the way, that's part of the reason why I
picked the MAVs, because if they win, he ain't never
come in, so you gonna lose. But with Kyrie Irving,
even though I personally am optimistic about him, especially in
game two, usually we have a game that poor, you're
gonna bounce back in a big way the following game,
So I feel good about that. Having said that, though
this Kyrie situation is not just about him having to
(16:34):
step up, I don't I don't think that's the issue
with him.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
Okay, if you look at the numbers and Chris you
allude to it.
Speaker 10 (16:40):
Earlier in his career, he averages about twenty five and
a half points on fifty percent shooting from three.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 10 (16:49):
In the eleven straight losses to Boston, his numbers have
gone down. He's averaging twenty points a game on forty
one percent shooting and twenty eight percent from three. That's
a big drop in the shooting percent in the last
six games.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Now, where'd you get those career numbers.
Speaker 10 (17:06):
That's on CBS Sports. It might be might be related
to this season, it might be for this, that's that,
that might have been misphrased. But the thing is is
and and I'm gonna piece it all together. I don't
believe it's an issue of him stepping up. I believe
it's an issue of him wanting so badly to stick
it to Boston and stick it to those fans because
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of the way that they've talked about him and the
way they treated him over the last five or six years.
Mike Gorman was on ninety eight five The Sports of
in Boston Today, and he talked about the game, and
and and the.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
Whole details of it whatever.
Speaker 10 (17:38):
One thing that he said that kind of got somehow
lost in the ether of sports talk media is he
said he was sitting a few rows back from a fan.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
He was found in the sixth row.
Speaker 10 (17:49):
He was about the eighth row, and Kyrie had a
running dialogue, according to Gorman, with this guy in the
sixth row, up and down the court, yelling at night
last night, yelling, yelling at him, kind of giving him
the finger on the sneak the entire time, and Kyrie
this whole situation with Boston is not about it's hard
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enough for him to score on Drewale.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
Your aladays great.
Speaker 10 (18:12):
The defense as a hole is great, but Kyrie has
made it personal. And when you make it personal, you
step outside yourself and you don't do the things that
make you.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Kyrie Irving, well, he's gotta be stronger than that him
getting in a free You're in the finals and you're
in a running dialogue with some fan. I can gotta
be stronger than that. I'm sorry, you're empowering that fan.
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Rob If Kyrie ignored that dude, that would the guy
would like he loves the fact that Kyrie goes back.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
With him, right that that you can get somebody's attention
and break their focus. Yep, because it doesn't It really
doesn't make sense to even be engaged in that.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
What would you care at all?
Speaker 10 (19:00):
Well, you know what's interesting, guys, is his teammate Luka
Doncis is the exact opposite when Kyri. When lucas into
it with somebody and he's chirping and he's cursing all
this stuff, it gets him going and he plays better.
And Kyrie just might be one of those guys that
when he's that personally invested and emotionally invested in it.
It takes him away from what he weighs HI great
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and makes him worse.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Well, he look, he better get off of that. He
better get off of that. And he's talked about his maturity,
how he's grown, and I don't doubt that in terms
of his personal life and stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
But you have to.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Show that on the court too, because no, there's no
reason like you. You're thirty two years old, You're the
elder statesman on the team. You're the voice of reason
in the locker room. These dudes are looking at you
as a leader, and you yelling with some dude on
the sideline right looking down the court. No, you gotta
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be better than that.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Let's go to Mike and Huntingdon Beach, Chris, you're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
What's up? Mike?
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Hey, Rob and Chris? Uh. It's just you know, don't
get offit the brothers. But it's funny to me how
all these media people were calling the Joker the greatest
player on the planet. Did he did he lose this?
And then everybody goes, Okay, let's establish Luca as the
greatest player right now in the game. Well, Kyrie, that's.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Not everybody, but some peoplesion.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
But hold on, Chris, hold on, Chris, I'm gonna he
ain't gonna let me talking.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah real quick.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Yeah, But if, but if, when Kyrie plays well like
you did last series, Luca got all the credits. Last night,
Luca only got one assist. But I keep hearing Chris go, oh,
we're gonna play well. We ain't gonna talk about him,
We're gonna just we're gonna rip Kyrie. Had that been
Lebron James, you would have destroyed him and said, oh, see,
(20:56):
Lebron can't come through the big.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Had had who been Lebron James?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And keeping the stay on because it sounds like you're
trying to call me out. Had who been Lebron?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Has had Lucas scored? Had Lebron James scored thirty five points.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Thirty points, ten rebounds, one assist is what he did.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Yes, you would have criticized him and said he couldn't
get it his players in ball, really.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Because I didn't.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I don't even remember killing Lebron when he scored average
seventeen and seven against Dallas in twenty eleven. What are
you talking about.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
I'm talking about I wouldn't have killed Lebron. Oh he's
not going to be talking. Okay, go ahead, Chris, but
it is my show.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You asked me a question.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I'm giving.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Yeah, I said respectfully. I said respectfully. I just want
to get it again. I didn't want you to get
a finished.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
No, but you accused it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I'm giving. I'm answering your question.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You were accusing me of doing something that I would
not have done. I'm not a Lebron James hater. If
I feel like he deserves criticism, I'll do it. But
you can't sit up here and tell me if that
was Lebron you would have done. You You out of
your mind.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
No, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
I'm not accusing. I'm asking you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You just did.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Okay, you're not gonna let me talk. Like I said,
go ahead and keep ripping Kyrie. But it's a shame
that you got to do that. All I'm saying is, no,
he's playing against his former team. They know him well.
Let the brother get going and let's see what happens.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Let me ask you, Let me ask you a question,
because you're you're bringing race into it because you really said, Yo,
Kich and Luca that we people been speaking favorably of
them and then criticizing Lebron and Kyrie.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Be honest about it?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Is that what you're saying unequivocally, I'm being absolutely out.
Absolutely it's racial. Absolutely Okay, So.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Say your whole thing with your chest, clear words, not
any any misdirections.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
What are you saying.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
I'm saying, I'm asking you a question. Why is Kyrie
getting the burden of.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
The because he shot six for nineteen.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
He had a bad night last like I mean yeah,
I mean like okay, So.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Last series we scored thirty points against Oklahoma City. Why
the previous round they played? Why wouldn't you guys give
him the credit?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
We were Chris, We didn't give.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Luca all the credit. We gave Luca and Kyrie major credit.
I said, if they win.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
This championship, they will be the second greatest backcourt offensively. Ever.
All right, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Did we not give Kyrie any credit for the last week?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Gave him credit? And what I said to you yesterday
was because I wish.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I would have kept him Moore.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah, No, we got we got it. It's all good.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
At least he called in, and we appreciate the right
the conversation, so it's.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
A good conversation.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
We are right, that's okay, you don't have to and
we can.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Talk about it again.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
But I just don't think I think he's way off.
I mean, Kyrie shot six for nineteen, Kyrie, Kyrie is.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Going to be beat up on a day shoot six
for nineteen. The team was down by twenty seven at
one point and they lose yeh right, right.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
If Lucas shot that and they lost Chris, it would
be like.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Oh, he's supposed to be Lucas, supposed to be one
of the great great players, and he had a stinker
in a game like that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Absolutely absolutely, And we gave Kyrie plenty of crit that
was part of the whole thing. We're just talking about
all the accolades that he's gotten. I said, he's arguably
the most skilled player ever.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
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Speaker 1 (24:43):
All Right, it is The Eye Couple. Chris and Rob
Yovan Boo high around the corner. First, Steve disagree with
the up day Steve Steve Hey.
Speaker 11 (24:49):
The NBA Finals Game twos at Boston on Sunday night.
Then Dallas will host games three and four on Wednesday
and Friday of next week. Boston at home in the
regular season went thirty seven and four, and they won
Game one of these finals at home by eighteen points,
led by twenty nine in the first half. In fact,
Boston finished with nine block shots. Dallas as a team
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had only nine assists. The ratings are out for the
NBA Finals opener last night, and yet again the Finals
have opened below the fourteen million viewer wow for a
sixth straight year. This was eleven million viewers on ABC
last night, so it's down five percent from last year.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Surprised by that these team Boston's the big market.
Speaker 11 (25:30):
It's down ten percent from when it was Boston Golden
State a couple of years ago. And noticeably it is
lower again than the College championship game. The two Yukon
Final four games were both over fourteen million this spring,
and that was cable only in the wn.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Surprised to be on ABC, you know everybody can watch
locally As for.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Me, wonder if the nine day delay just took some
of the steam out of it. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 11 (25:56):
Yeah, I think the game itself didn't help that part too. Yeah,
the audience went from about twelve million at one point
to nine million later. That I mean, you lose a
fourth of your audience down twenty because right, we talked
about the run and it was brief in the third quarter,
but didn't Dallas go from down twenty one to down
twenty by the end of the third quarter and then
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lose by eighteen.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
So that was that.
Speaker 11 (26:20):
As for the WNBA, it's two to nine Indiana early
in the third quarter, now trailing forty three forty two
at winless Washington, which is zero to ten. Caitlin Clark
with ten points in the first half for assists, three turnovers,
three steals to Major League Baseball. The Mariners lead seven
to nothing in the first inning at Kansas City, and
(26:41):
the White Sox are actually winning in the third one
nothing over Boston. Notable because the Carla Sucks have lost
fourteen games in a row. Yankees Dodgers scoreless end of five.
Dodgers have left five on base and Yoshinobu Yamamoto six
and two is the Dodger starting pitcher tonight against a
Yankee team that's one one to eight in a row.
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Yankee outfielder Won Soto out of the starting lineup tonight
with a sore forearm, although MRI just showed inflammation. Also
in progress. Orioles winning again four to three at Tampa
Bay in the bottom of the sixth. It's a national
still shutting out the Atlanta Braves two nothing in the eighth,
and the Brewers, who've lost three straight, lead ten nothing
at Detroit at the seventh inning stretch.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Back to you, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Steve Relavefromti right dot com Studios. Our next guest covers
the Lakers for The Athletic. He's the host of Boha's
Block podcast. Check it out, Yo Vron Boohai, friend of
the show, Yo Viron.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
What's happening, Yo Yo?
Speaker 12 (27:36):
How's it going?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Guys doing great?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Great?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Man?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I know you are busy working these phones. So what's the.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Latest with Dan Hurley? Do you know, like after they finished, well,
just tell us the latest.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (27:49):
So this has been unlike any story I've ever covered.
You know, like teams are often secretive with trade situations
and free signings, and you'll have moves like I remember
covering the Clippers back in twenty eighteen, and there'd been
some minkling that Kawhi Leonard was going to be going there,
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but no one had the intel on Paul George and
that was just this bombshell that came out of nowhere.
And so you'll see stuff like that, but rarely do
you see it with a coaching situation. And we had
had five weeks going on where JJ Redick, all the
intel was, you know, talking to people within the organization,
talk to people outside the organization, but with ties to
(28:32):
the players, different things, Like all the buzz was JJ Redick,
JJ Redick from the beginning of the process. And to
have a situation like this where Dan Hurley comes off
the top rope out of nowhere and becomes the front
runner yesterday morning, Like it's just unlike anything I've can
(28:52):
recall seeing. But latest, you know he used in LA
meeting with the Lakers. You know, I haven't been trying
to get intel in terms of how that those meetings went,
but you know, I don't have a great read on that,
but I did hear that it was a very small meeting,
just meeting with Genie Buz and Rob Polinka. Uh so,
(29:15):
you know, kind of kind of keeping it insular there
in terms of uh just you know what they're talking
about and how that's going. But you know, it's it's
I've heard they're going to make him a very serious offer.
He's going to be mulling it over over the weekend
and we will likely have an answer one way or
the other by the end of the weekend. So it
seems like things are moving pretty quickly and he could
(29:36):
be the Lakers head coached by potentially Sunday night.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
And I didn't think JJ Reddick was a good fit
for Lebron. I didn't like a guy never coached, and
you know Lebron's in his last couple of years. But
what happened to JJ Reddick, I mean, wasn't it wasn't.
Wasn't it reported like it was almost a foregone conclusion
and now it fell to nothing.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
What happened to JJ?
Speaker 6 (30:04):
So I've been told.
Speaker 12 (30:05):
That there are people that you know, I've spoken with
that are still a bit skeptical of Hurley being the
true front runner and Reddick's still having a legitimate shot
in this process. And if for whatever reason, Hurley goes
back to Yukon and maybe they make him a Godfather offer,
or he just gets cold feet and changes his mind
(30:27):
and decides to stay there. Lakers will obviously have to
move in a different direction, and I believe that direction
will still be jj Reddick.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
That looks weird to me because it feels like he
won your first choice.
Speaker 12 (30:41):
That's true. Now, the Lakers have dealt with this before,
where they went after Tylou and Monty Williams and ended
up settling on Frank Logel and he's he won a
championship though he was only there for three years. So
like they have helped dealt with this before. This is
the weird part of it to me was, you know,
the reporting coming out, and I don't ever want to
go against anyone's reporting, but something about it, you know,
(31:05):
coming out that well, Hurley was the favorite the whole time.
Like it doesn't pass the smell test to me, because
in talking to people again close to the situation, there
were plenty of people that had not heard of Hurley
as a candidate at all, and maybe Rob Lincoln and
the Lakers were able to keep this secretive from even
people within the organization. And again people close to the
(31:25):
organization and maybe that was the case, but you know,
to me kind of reading the tea leaves, it seems
more like Hurley was probably an initial candidate. He didn't
have interest and maybe turned them down or said, you know,
just wasn't the right time, And something changed within the
last couple of days where it was like, you know what,
I'm actually ready for it, I'm interested. You guys haven't
(31:46):
hired anybody yet, like you know, I'm considering it, And
that seems to be you know, him kind of cracking
that door open, getting back into it. And I do
think if Hurley was interested from the beginning, and it
was Hurley verrus a Edia Reddick, I think the Lakers
would leaning forward Dan Hurley like it's I mean, he's
a top coaching college about right now. He checks all
the boxes. So like the fact that this vacancy has
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been there for over five weeks and all the buzz
has been JJ Reddick and no mention of Dan Hurley,
something doesn't check out. And I'm still trying to kind
of figure go suff through it all and figure it out.
But like the notion that he was a favorite this
whole time, and it was this giant secret, Like that's
a pretty big secret to keep for over a month.
Like you know, sometimes again with with with trades and signings,
(32:31):
it'll be a secret for twenty four hours, forty eight hours,
even seventy two hours. But keeping this type of secret
for five weeks, I just I don't know if I
fully buy that.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
There has been some talk to Anthony Davis might not
want jj Reddick, might prefer Borega. I mean, now, obviously
Hurley's in the mix, But have you heard any of
that you think and that there could be any truth
to that?
Speaker 12 (32:53):
So I haven't heard that he does not want j Reddick.
I have heard that he is very fond of James Barrego. Uh.
They What's what's kind of funny with it is they
only overlapped for about a month and a half in
New Orleans. If you look at Ady gets uh drafted
in late June, uh, and then James Barrego leaves New
Orleans joins Orlando in early August. So there's about like
(33:16):
a five six week period there where they overlap in
New Orleans. That clearly left some type of impression on
ad because from what I've been told, they have a
strong rapport and that has been a guy that Ad
has been uh, you know, backing and the voicing his
support for. So I think part of the reason why
Barrego has been so strongly considered has been the Lakers
(33:39):
taking into account what Anthony Davis wants and they have
said that this is going to be more of an
ad Higher than a Lebron James Higher. So, you know,
everything we have reported at the Athletic and that you
know others that had reported and touched on was the
this folks, you know, the coaching search of and focused
on JJ Reddick and James Barrego, and it was looking
like it was coming down to those two guys and
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the Lakers the siding between them, with Reddick being the
favorite between the two. And then now things obviously change
and it looks like it's it's more likely to be Hurley,
and then if not Hurly, they will reopen the process.
And I still think redk would be the number two
choice right now. But I mean, if they're offering Hurly
some of the reported figures that are out.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
There, now, let me ask you that was my next question,
is that one hundred million dollars is what is being reported,
and is that what is going to cost to get
them to leave stores? Connecticut one hundred million, So I
would not have heard.
Speaker 12 (34:35):
That high of a number. I think there's obviously some
shock value with that, and there's a spectacle element to that,
you know, I've heard somewhere more closer to like five
to six years and eleven to thirteen million dollars annually,
like hitting that double digit mark, and then it's just
being a matter of you know, is it you know,
(34:56):
on the lower end, like five years eleven million, on
the higher end, six years seventy eight eighty million. So
like that that eight year, one hundred million dollar deal
would check out from like an annual value perspective. I
have not heard eight years from people I've talked to,
But uh, I mean that's a godfather offer that Like
it's it's hard to turn that down because you have
(35:16):
not the security in that point, Like you're basically, well,
that's what you're uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
He's going to need that.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
If I were him and I had Connecticut in my
back pocket, I would be demanding something like that. So
I know, like I can't be you know, dismissed, you know,
quickly if Lebron or a d or anybody you know
tires of me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 12 (35:38):
Yeah, no, and then that's that's so. I mean, that's
the ultimate secure one hundred million dollars. If you're getting
eight years undred dollars, if you got to let go
after your two or three, you're still getting paid that money.
And then your next contract, if you say in the NBA,
your next contract will offset some of that. But you're
getting you're getting the one hundred million, whether it's from
Lakers or someone else, you're guarantee that.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
All right, that's our man, Jovan b great your body.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Have a great weekend. Yes, I know you're chasing this stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I say that for I've been there. Yeah, right, man,
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Hot Couple coming away. Shop Talk is next Fox Sports Radio.
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On the Funky Flashback Friday, it's time.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
For shop Talk.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
That's right.
Speaker 10 (36:37):
It is shop talk here on the AAC couple Fox
Sports Radio say when we talk about something happen outside
of the world of sports. This week's topic comes to
us from the world of music. Stub Hub just released
their list of the most popular most in demand summer
concerts coming up for twenty twenty four. Number one, no surprise,
Taylor Swift. Everyone knew that one. But number three the
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bronze medalist at the ripe age of eighty Across the board,
The Rolling Stones are the third most popular ticket for
this summer's concert series, which got me thinking, Guys, if
you are a fan of the Rolling Stone, which they
have plenty of them, is it still worth it to
you to be paying top dollar to see an eighty
year old Mick Jagger shaking his hips around Chris Bussard.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Well, look, I don't know how much he can move
at eighty. Maybe he's moving a lot. I don't know,
But I would say this, if you are a big
fan of the Rolling Stones, you probably would still want
to go one just to hear the songs. Right, You
love the songs, so you want to hear those, And certainly,
if you've never seen Mick Jagger, you might want to.
(37:44):
I mean, who knows where you'll be sitting, but you know,
you might just want to be in that atmosphere. So
I get it. Obviously, at eighty you can't perform anywhere
near like you used to, but I just think for
the music, people still would probably want to go.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I am a big Rolling Stones fan. I saw them
at Michigan State. I was up close to the stage.
It was it was tremendous. And this is back twenty
five years ago.
Speaker 9 (38:12):
Chris a long day.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
They were old then, but that's still but that's different
than eight.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
But I enjoyed, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
And was he able to move it?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it was tremendous. I still I
still loved every minute of it.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
And as they get older, people do want to People
do want to make sure that they get to see them.
I remember I told you I saw James Brown at
the end.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
I saw him. I was happy I went.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
I was talked out of going to see Frank Sinatra
when he was older, and I regret it to this
day because I never saw him perform live right so
to this day. So I can see where people thinking
this could be their last concert. You know what I mean, like,
like I could see why their tickets are still high
and they had an incredible Chris, they do. I mean,
(39:02):
Mick Jagger knows guys, and he's a real singer. He's
not a studio singer. Mick Jagger can sing.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I saw Earth Wind and Fire.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
My wife and I went out maybe five six years ago,
and I don't even know how many of them were
the originals, but it was a couple of them at least.
But it was still great. It was great. So you know, yeah,
I mean, where are you at on that route?
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Rob g Yeah? Are you? Are you a Rolling Stones
fan out there?
Speaker 10 (39:26):
I actually my dad and a few of the records,
so I think we still have them in the ground.
I have no issue whatsoever with people paying top dollar
for whatever if you want to see your favorite artists
at whatever age. Because Robert we talked about your Frank
Sinatra story. I would give anything to even see like
whatever the last year of Frank Sinatra's life when his
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voice was shot.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I know it should.
Speaker 9 (39:50):
Chris, I would have loved to have seen say that
I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I still I'm still bummed that I let somebody talk
me out and Chris.
Speaker 10 (39:58):
To your point, I saw her and fire To about
seven eight years ago here in southern California. There was
only two of the original members that were performing, and
you couldn't tell me anything.
Speaker 9 (40:07):
I still had a blast watching them, right right, Mary.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I had a great time. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 13 (40:13):
I I'm all for it because I'm a person who
are like, if I love that artist, I love it
till the day they die. So but then again, like
I also don't relate because like I wouldn't go pay
top doll let to go see Rollings.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I thought Mary, Mary was gonna say, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
I don't know who don't say you haven't heard of
the Rolling Stone.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I actually haven't.
Speaker 13 (40:32):
I've played one of them last I literally I just
checked my Apple Music I don't have any of their music, saying, well,
that's one thing.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I don't know any of their music. Surprised about that.
But you never even heard of them? I have no
I've heard of them.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Oh okay, I mean I get around for sixty years.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
But yeah, I mean they're one of the biggest bands ever.
So yeah, all right, we got an hour left, y'all
know what to do. Keep it locked,
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