June 14, 2024 • 44 mins
Chris Broussard and Rob Parker talk shop on the Caitlin Clark discourse and make their claims on why Clark should not have to jump into all the malcontents. Plus, Chris and Rob discuss Jayson Tatum and the Celtics championship run, Tom Brady claiming QB's are going backwards, and much more!!
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Speaker 3 (01:19):
You will not be sorry on a.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Funky flashback Friday, so you're gonna hear some good tunes too.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Let me welcome in my partner, mister Rob Parker. What's
up man?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
What's happened to mister Chris Bussad? How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I'm excellent. I'm excellent. Looking forward to a Father's Day weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
That's right. What do you got planned for Father's Day?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yes, I'm gonna be all over.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Are surprising you or or you know what you're doing?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I'm speaking first of all tomorrow speaking at at church.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I saw that Where is that?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
No, that's in Jersey. Okay, here in Jersey.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And then we're actually we're.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Doing a lot this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
My wife and I going to a bar mitzvah or
very nice one of her partners in their practice, his
son or is I think you know that.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It's a bar.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's a bar if it was a girl, so it's
a bar mitzvah.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's not me. I'm one of
the chosen people. I know all about this, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And then Sunday, while my wife and I were driving
down to Philly to see my daughter, We're gonna go
to church with her and then uh, she's taking us
out to brunh. I do know where we're going, so
it won't be a surprise.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
But well, that's nice. That's a good weekend. It'll be good.
It'll be good.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What about you just be chilling thinking about all the
kids I could have and uh, his father's.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Some one of your minte's taking you no, you know
what like that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
My nephew and my nieces they always call and they
you know, they have their fathers or whatever.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
But they always say I'm like a second father to them,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I mean, which is real nice and uh, but but
they have their fathers, you know what I mean. And uh,
but they respect me from that standpoint and guidance and
all that, and people will reach out to me and
say thanks for helping me along.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
So uh, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
We almost I was almost a father Chris almost.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Are you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
When we were when we were always married, we lost
a baby. But yeah, but you know, I always say,
it just wasn't meant to be, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Uh, And uh, it would have been cool. It would
have been cool. I think it would have been a
decen you know what it was. No, it wasn't that
far along.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, yeah, but my mom had two miscarriages before I
was born.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
That's what a lot of people do. It's kept pretty
common you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It really is more common than you would know because
most people don't talk about it, right, they.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Don't go like a count or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But but yeah, Happy Father's Day to all the fathers
out there, and to.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
You Chris and your wife and your daughters are celebrating.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
All right, Well, let's introduce the Eye Couple crew and
get it started.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
On the update. You heard him a minute ago, Steve
the Sager.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
On Running Things super producer Rob So We got Patrick
Sweek Pat.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yes, Hey Patrick, what's up? Chris? What's up? Ron? We're
doing good. We're having fun. Patrick.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Chris is uh losing weight and eating healthy and he
looks great.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I'm Patrick, I'm sorry for that's good. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Patrick, he's a great guy, full of energy, but he's
he's consciously just trying to eat better, do some stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
But you look great, Patrick, for real, Thank you, thank you.
I really appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
That's impressive.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
On the updates, Elijah Seb not the update social media.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Elijah Sobn is back. Elijah, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I don't think well, Elijah, how you come back off
of vacation to work on Friday, Friday before Father's Day
and you know Elijah has a beautiful bounce.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Of baby boy. He's a workhorse. Happy Father's Day.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And of course on the ones and twos, Alex tight
shit is out.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So we got Crates on a funky Friday. What's up, Mary?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
How it's a good Friday that I think I'm going
to go out later tonight.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, go ahead and do your thing, all right, Rob,
let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Kaitlyn Clark, I mean, my goodness, every time she turned around,
she's in.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Hot conversation, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So our our friend Jim Trotter, I don't know if
it was yesterday, asked her a question.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I guess you know, I'm not on the social media like.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
That, Rob, where I'm yeah your tweets about you know, no, no,
you know, I do my thing on it, but I'm
not like following every little thing. And apparently there are
people that have been using not really in the traditional media, Rob,
I don't think. Although we called to Tad, we took
(06:00):
Chicago Tribune, the task that.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Was that was that was about it was terrible, absolutely,
and but Jim Trotter asked Caitlyn Clark about, uh, you know,
her name being used to.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I guess promote or what do you worry he used
was weaponized to promote certain ideologies or whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Here's what she said.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
This was in the morning. I think we have it.
We have it. If we don't, yeah, were sitting here
with dead air, here we go. Uh, I think we
have it?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
All right? So so all right?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So she she basically just said, you say, yeah, I
just you know, it doesn't she didn't like she was
asked if it bothers her, and she said, no, I
don't even see it. She said, I'm just you know,
I'm kind oblivious.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
No matter what you do for what it's done to
you will become for topic now and a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Of times when it comes to life, I wonder, from.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Your standpoint, how do you feel about people using your
narrative and whatever culture wars or whatever wars they're fighting,
how do.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
You feel about that?
Speaker 7 (07:11):
It's not something I can control, So you know, I
don't put too much thought and time into thinking about
things like that. And to be honest, I don't see
a lot of it, Like I said, like Fastell's my job,
like everything on the outside, I can't control that, So.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'm not going to spend time thinking about that.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
You know, people can talk about what they want to
talk about, creating conversations about you know.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
But I think for myself, like, you know, I'm just
here to play basketball.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So so she was that's the FIRS first response in
the morning, I guess I had to shoot around.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So that was Jim Trotta, right, Yes, yeah, they've just
got a breaking news story. Uh, the NFL has fired
him again, Roger Goodell. So I mean, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So in the afternoon or she was asked about it
to give and rob and she had a different response.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Here here we have that here she is, if.
Speaker 8 (08:04):
We have klen you mentioned that, you know, you want
to popus right on basketball, and you definitely respect that.
When just asking Donna Rencal, people use your name racist
or misagne or whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
What is your response to beast?
Speaker 7 (08:17):
Yeah, I think it's disappointing. I think, you know, everybody
in our world, you know, deserves them the same amount
of respect. The women in our league deserve the same
amount of respect. So people should not be easy my name.
So there's those agendas. It's disappointing, it's not acceptable. But yeah,
I mean this league is the league I grew up admiring,
and wanting to be a part of Like some of
the women in this league were my biggest idols and
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role models growing up and helped me wanting to achieve
this moment right here that I get to play in
every single night. So it's treating every single woman this week,
think with the same amount of respect. I think it's
just a basic human thing that everybody should do, like,
you know, just be a kind person and treat them,
you know, how you would want to be treated. And
I think it's just been a very simple one.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
All right, Rob, What are your thoughts on the two
differ for answers?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, I just she's twenty two years old. I don't
expect her to be at some advocate Chris activists, I mean,
is what the word I wanted to use? Activists? You know,
like they're asking you a question about some of these things,
stuff that she hasn't even seen or she doesn't all
already know how she's supposed to respond to everything that's
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attached to her name, do you know what I mean?
I just I think it's a it's an impossible scenario
and situation. And I think after she realized like Okay,
what's going on, and then She just made a kind
of a blanket statement that everybody should be treated fair
and equal and all that kind of stuff. That's what
you say. I don't expect her, Chris, to stand on
the soapbox. I don't expect her, at twenty two years old,
(09:46):
thrust into this to have all the world's answers and
solutions and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
And I'm cool with that. I'm cool with it.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, it's an interesting thing.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
First thing I thought about when this story was developed
and Rob was remember when she even before she got
into the league, before she got drafted, there were people saying, Okay,
is she going to resurrect the WNBA like Michael Jordan
did the NBA? Right, And she she's the Jordan of
the WNBA. She's the Jordan of women's basketball, that stuff.
(10:19):
And it's interesting, Rob, because there have been a lot
of similarities in the early parts of their curtain. Now,
she Jordan took the league by storm immediately. She hasn't
done that. But as far as you know, players in
the league testing him and her, we know about the
alleged ice out of Jordan and the All Star Game,
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and you know she's obviously you know which I don't
have a problem with the veterans going at her, you know,
making it tough on her in the first year as
a rookie, and even some if there's resentment there because
of all the attention she's getting and they have put
in this work and haven't gotten it. And then we
know Rob Michael Jordan was not outspoken about social He
(11:04):
was criticized.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
A lot of us wanted him to be.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
As much as we love Jordan as a player, I
do wish he was more outspoken.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
He had the American issue, Chris. He had the platform.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
He had the platform, and although it's not a real
quote attached to Michael Jordan about Republicans by sneakers too,
Mike could have said some things, got some things done,
and he didn't want to get involved in that, and
he was criticized for it. Nobody there, nobody, nobody gave
him a pass because they thought that Mike uh had
(11:36):
a platform and could have not on everything.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I said the same thing about Tiger Woods.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Not on everything, but but but Chris, the thing that
would would that disappointed me about Tiger Woods was like
at Augusta when they didn't have any black or female members.
That's something that he could affect not not school and
missions and all these other things. But he could have said,
until you'll start letting in black members and females, I'm
(12:04):
not going to play it, Augusta. How long would it
have taken for them, Chris to bring in black members
and females?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Am I right? That's power?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, And and look, we don't have to even explain
that African Americans have been historically, they just to put it,
lightly discriminated against in this country and it still.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Goes on today.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So when you do have African Americans who are to
let's just I'm gonna use the word untouchable right.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Like, and that's the right word. That's the right world.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Jordans tiger Wood, they can't do it. Anyone so good
and they're.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So irreplaceable that they can really advocate and get things done.
Because like I said all the time, Rob, we know
Colin Kaepernick knelt down, you know, for the anthem, and
you know it got taken all sorts of ways because
he really meant that out of respect, you know, but
he obviously spoke out.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
He was making a stance, taking a stance.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Against police brutality, which is a good stance, and he
obviously his career suffered for it.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
There's no I have no and I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
You know, he wasn't a star at that point anymore,
but he certainly was good enough to be in the league,
and he suffered because he spoke out. I've always said, Rob,
if Patrick Mahomes did that very exact same thing that
Colin Kaepernick did, there's obviously he being the league, yep,
and it would have been it would have I mean, heck,
(13:34):
it might have become a trend for all we knowne
and it did to a little degree with Kaepernick, but
it would have been totally different. Patrick Mahomes is irreplaceable,
so he can speak out. And I'm not trying to
I'm not jumping on I'm just using him as an example.
But if you're that level, you can really get things
done for your people who have been historically discriminated against
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in this country.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
So you're right, we do want that done. I got
more to say on Caitlin Clark Ross. So I want
to do this.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
We'll break here and then we'll take calls at the
thirty we'll take I want to talk about it a
little more in the next segment, and then We'll take
calls at the at the four thirty Pacific seven thirty
Eastern mark.
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Speaker 4 (16:22):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
They just showed Tatum, Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum walking
in together, you know, laughing and like friends and all that,
walking into the arena. Oh, I thought they would be
on edge. You know, How do you really think Jason
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Tatum feels that Brown is going to you know, likely
going to win the finals MVP at least right now,
he's the finals MVP front runner. He was the Eastern
Conference Finals MVP. How do you think he really feels
the inside about that. I don't think he's like, like
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those things happen, you can't You're not gonna win them all.
You know, everybody's not Michael Jordan, even though you know
what I mean, Like, I just I don't. I don't
think he should be just happy that he they're going
to you know, get off the get their monkey off
their back, Chris, you know, like like that's really if
I'm him, That's what I'm happy the most about, because
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once you have one in your back pocket, you could
just play now, you know, like like that that's the
thing you want to do. When we said that about
Anthony Davis, we thought he'd go to another right, I mean.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
That's what it should have been.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
He should have been the focal point and all that
and let Lebron restaur in the rec but that that's
something else. But but it does give you some leeway
and breathing room, Chris, you know, like you can say
whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
He's a main man.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I got my championship. I played whatever we won. We
might not win again, we might not get back again.
That's the luck of the draw, right, But I got
it done. And that's really what it comes down to,
is getting it done. So whoever's the MVP? You know, Hey,
it's not my turn this time. Who knows the next
time we go next year, maybe I'm the guy who's
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who is the MVP?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
You know, Like that's the way you have to look
at it.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, look, I do think he definitely is focused on
the championship, and when we win this championship, it's just
gonna be phenomenal. Like I really think that's the first
and foremost thing in his mind. And he's going to
be legitimately happy and overjoyed and relieved that he won
his first championship.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Might end up Brobb being his only championship.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I'm sure he's going to be hyped about that because
you're not only I know you always had your questions
about the Celtics, and with with.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Legitimate reasons because of some of the stuff that we've
seen and of the game. So so they were all legitimate.
It wasn't illegitimate. It was legitimate. But you know, once
they get it done, Chris, you just that that that
can't be a conversation or narrative, right, I don't try them, right,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Though they can get it done as it's done.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
But I also know, rob just human nature, and I
just know when I played sports, obviously not close to
the NBA level, but you know, you do want to
shine too, you know, and and you settle into roles
like when I played and I.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Was a star at whatever it might have been, whatever
sport whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You know, you you like you want to win, of course,
but you also do want to kind of get your
yards if it's football, get your numbers if it's basketball.
You know, like that's a part of like your identity
on anybody by every body wants to feel like they
contributed and had a role in it. So that's well,
then you settled in roles though, Like so if you're
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a role player that you're not even like you can
really play free, you're not thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I gotta be the MVP, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like that just be icing on the cake for you
if you're the second best player. I've been in situation
where I was like the second best player and you
settle into that too. And if you're the second best
player and you've accepted that, then if the best player
gets the MVP award or whatever, you cool with it.
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But when you're the best player, you kind of expected again.
I think him and Jalen are completely fine. I don't
think there's any beef. And yesterday, you know, I did
a whole rant on how he should not let anybody
get him down if he doesn't win the finals MVP.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
But inside, you also have that competitive nature even.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
With your team mates, and you want to shine. And really, Rob,
it could just it could serve.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
As motivation for him going forward. And that's Jalen too,
Like Rob.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I don't doubt you know, Jalen's made noise about how
you know he was upset that he was left off
the All.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
NBA team, and I get it. I had him won
my third team and they won sixty four games.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
They ran away from the Eastern Conference, and they only
had one All NBA player. That's kind of, you know, crazy,
And so I think though he used that as motivation,
and I think Tatum will do the same.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
So it's it could be a good thing for the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
But yesterday Rob, he was asked by a reporter Jason
Tatum about this being a historic team.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Like the reporter ran off some records. They're fifteen and two.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Note that's the best record of any Celtics team ever
in the playoffs. They could be the first team to
sweep the conference finals in the NBA Finals. If they
win the night, Rob, they'll be eighty and twenty.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
That'll be the.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Second best record in Celtics history, the eighty six Celtics.
With some people think, you know, or at least they've
been in that discussion for the best team ever, they
were eighty two and eighteen.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
This would be the second best.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And they asked Jason Tatum, like, beyond just winning a championship,
how does it feel too, you know, maybe you'll actually
be on a historically great, one of the all time
great teams, or certainly won all time great Celtics team ever.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
What are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Here's what he said, There's never been a Celtic team
ever with a better playoff record than what you guys
have to this point. You guys have a chance to
be second all time and the eighty sixteen win, eighty
two and eighteen, you guys could be two games away
from that as like the second best Celtic team ever
in terms of record. How much more would that add
to it? When you think of all that this franchise
has done, you guys could be at the top of
a whole lot of lists in that record book.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I didn't know it.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
That would be really cool.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
But you guys probably say, we didn't play anybody to
get here, so we do it again next year.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 9 (23:09):
Rep?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I mean, he's heard the conversation, and that was the
talk before they got here, that that whoever comes out
of the West is going to beat the Celtics. The
Celtics didn't beat anybody. Everybody was banged up. Sure they
should have won all those games they didn't. They had
the easiest path.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
To the postseason, I mean to the finals. That's what right?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
That was the conversation, and instead they're looking at a
three zero lead against the team everybody thought from the
West that the Western team, no matter who it was,
that Denver had to get knocked out, Minnesota had to
get knocked out, you know, okay See had to get
knocked out.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
And guess what they still still still still.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Is in a situation, Chris, where they're going to make
easy work of the team that most people thought had
this dynamic backcourt and had the toughest role. They beat
fifty three fifty win teams, They beat three fifty win teams.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Look at where they are. Does that matter now?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, I was one that was talking about their path,
no doubt about they be three or the only one
of them one fifty. Most of them were banged up.
But all that's out the window now. Like beating Dallas,
particularly if they sweep them, but even just beating them
in seven, just beating them period ends all that.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
It ends it.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It doesn't matter, Rob, don't We don't remember the path
of teams three years ago.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
We just remember did you win the championship or not?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And so beating Dallas, which has two future Hall of
famers on the team, beating Dallas, which, as you said,
they beat the clip mpers with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.
Kawhi was banged up, but still they James Harden was there.
They beat the number one seed in the West, Oklahoma
City with Shaye Gilgers Alexander the second highest ranked guy
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in the MVP voting. Then they beat Minnesota, the team
that beat the defending champions, and so beating them, Rob
beating Dallas, that ends all that talk about Oh, they
ran through a week east, they didn't have any competition
in the files.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Rod, we talk about it with the two thousand and
eight Celtics.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
We don't care that they went seven with Atlanta in
the first round one right, who cares doesn't matter one iota.
And so now the only thing I will say is,
and this is real nitpicking, if they sweep tonight and
they end up sixteen and two, it still is what
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it is, and you gotta give them for that record.
I would say, if they face better competition, you don't
think they would have went sixteen.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
And two, But who knows. They this would be their
eleven straight victory. Rob.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
They haven't lost in like a month. It's Christmas's crazy
and that would be what eight to no on the road?
Eight right, right?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
So it's been a great team. And the one thing
he did say that I agree with.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I agree with a lot of it, but when he
said we just got to go win it again next year, Rob,
I think all the talk about is this an all
time great team. At least in Boston, it's the talk.
I don't think nationally, but all to talk about is
it's a great team and they got the numbers to
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back it up.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
But hardly anybody on the national level believes they're an
all time great team, regardless of the numbers.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Rob, I think that's good for the East Celtics. I
think that dangles a carrot out in front of them.
Let's show everybody again if we win it again, they
can't say a thing about us.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
As long as they have the right viewpoint and take
it one game, one day at a time.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
If they got that carrot dangling out there, yeah, we're
gonna show them.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Still got the chip on their shoulder. That's great, I
think Rob.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
The Kansas City Chiefs right now going for this three peat,
the first in Super Bowl history, I think that's great
for them because you know, championship teams can have a
problem with complacency, and the Chiefs are not complacent because
they're looking at we want to be the first to
win three straight. And I think the Celtics will not
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be complacent next year because they'll be like, yeah, look,
we won sixty four, we won games by eleven points,
we won the East by fourteen games, we had the
best playoff record in Celtics history. And they still don't
think we're all time great team. Right, Let's show them.
So I think it would be good for out of
two motivation, something to shoot for.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
And also I think teams understand that too, about you know,
solidifying it. And we brought it up a million times, Chris,
and we do talk about this team a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
But the two thousand and four Pistons when they went back, Chris,
it was just the idea that it wasn't a fluke.
They didn't win, they lost in seven games, They beat
checking Kobe, oh, the Lakers, they were squabbling blah blah blah.
But did they but they fought all the way back
(28:42):
down or were they down two to the Spurs came back,
forced the game seven, lost by five or six points.
You don't leave Chris, even though they didn't went back
to back feeling like that twenty fourteen was a fluke,
do you no?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And you're right a large part of it. If they had, say,
gotten beating the second round, Rob, there would have been
a lot of talk about, man.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
You know that's just smacking.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Kobe is going through the trial right, and and you
know Malone was heard and they weren't getting along.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, it would have been all that, Rob, It would
have been all that.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
And so you're right, So what they do, like if
they want to go down as like an all time
great and they got a chance, Rob, Look, we don't
know necessarily. I don't think I think Tatum and Brown
or future Hall of famers assuming they win this series, Rob,
those two if hall of famers, no matter what. I
(29:39):
also think though, Drew Holliday and our Horford will probably
be Hall of Famers if they win this championship.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And we don't. I don't think Tatum and.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Brown are like, you know, ultra ultra all time greats.
But who knows what we're thinking? Ten years we just
got to see so all right? Eight seven seven ninety
nine on A seven seven nine nine six sixty three
sixty nine you're turning the way in on Jalen Brown
about to be the MVP.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
HOWLESE. Tatum feel about that?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
And is this a historically great Celtics team assuming they win?
Is this a historically great Boston Celtics team or even
NBA team of all time?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Your thoughts next, Christ and Rob Theeiye Couple, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
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Speaker 3 (30:49):
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Speaker 1 (30:51):
We're live from the tire Rack dot Com studios, our
number three of a three hour show on the It's
Funky Flashback Friday and Rob. So far, so good for
the Dallas Mavericks. They're up twenty five sixteen late in
the first quarter, about two minutes left. Remember they were up,
(31:13):
you know, I don't know if it was double I
think it was might have been double figures in the
first quarter of Game three, so obviously plenty of time
left for the.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Celtics to come back and take control. But luka, doncis.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Rob is hot.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
He's got thirteen points on five of eight shooting. Kyrie
chipping in with six still early five shooting.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I mean if they don't come out, and this is
just I'm not saying, Chris, if you don't come out
and go crazy in the beginning to kind of get
the crowd and everything, like, you know, fall behind early,
it's gonna be a long night to be a blowout. Yeah,
So that's why you gotta have nothing else if you
don't come out with some fire trying to survive.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Trouble right right, Well, Rob tom Brady, who we know
this year, is gonna call games for Fox Sports. He
was doing a media tour recently and he spoke with
Yahoo Sports, and he was talking naturally about quarterbacking and
he says that it's not as good as it used
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to be.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Here's a quote. He talked a lot about it.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I can't read everything, obviously, but he said, I think
the quarterbacking has gone backwards a little bit in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I don't think it's improved. I don't think the teaching's improved.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I think maybe the physical fundamentals might be a little
bit improved because there's better information out there for quarterbacks
to study on mechanics. But I don't think quarterbacks really
are really field generals right now like they used to be.
He said, there's you know, coaches have a lot of control.
(32:56):
He even says that, I think now there's this try
to control element on the sideline between the coaches where
they want to have control and they're not teaching and
developing the players with the right tools so that they
can go out on the field and make their own
decisions that are best suited for the team.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
When I looked at Peyton Manning, he was.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
A guy that I looked up to because he had
ultimate control, and I think the games regressed in a
little bit of that way based on what's happened in
high school football, college football, and then the NFL is
getting a much lesser developed quarterback at this point.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
What are your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I don't know. I mean, I'm kind of a mixed bag.
I mean, I think I do we have examples?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
What is he?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Who was he talking about? Yeah? It look you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Chris, Like, Seriously, I don't think he's talking about anybody
in particular. I think he's talking about just the general
state of quarterbacking, and obviously he would know.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I I.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
We've talked about Rob, how it's easier for quarterbacks today.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
The rules are different. They can't get hit like they
used to get hit.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Whether or not he'd want to play in this football Chris,
I mean, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
He was brutalized when he played against New York Football Giants.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Brutalized.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
And the receivers can't get hit like they used to either,
particularly going across the middle. Across the middle, Chris, oh,
you knew if you did, you might get decapitateac So
that we've talked about it, that's why you look at
the numbers of the legends. We always say it. We
kind of have to, you know, put it out there,
will hold up. It was a different game back then.
(34:49):
So when you see that this Hall of Famer only
completed fifty passes or had almost as many interceptions as
touchdowns in his career, you know, like you to understand
it was a different game. And Rob, I think Brady
is a great example of how much easier it is
to play quarterback today, Rob.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Because some of his his numbers in his forties, and obviously.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
He was, you know, extraordinarily great in terms of right
but he robbed in He had one, two, three, four, five,
six years.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
In his forties.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
At forty three years old, he threw forty touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
And twelve interceptions and forty six hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
At forty four he threw fifty fifty three hundred yards,
forty three touchdowns and twelve interceptions.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
That was the year.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I thought he should have been MVP when it went
to Rogers. But Rob a guy in his men forties.
And again we understand Brady took care of himself and
all that, Rob, but his numbers weren't that great outside
of like the year he had Randy Moss.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
He wasn't putting up those types of numbers in his prime.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
No, because the game changed and he was protected. Yep,
he only had knew his stand back there if they
if they touched him, Chris, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it was. It was definitely an advantage one hun And
it doesn't mean that he couldn't.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
Play or he had to delivered the ball and do
all that league and stuff exactly, but there was.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
A difference that allowed him had he been popped a
few times early in his forties, he wouldn't have been
playing well.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
If it had been like say, early in his career.
I don't know that he would have been playing late
in to his forties. You know, like if you if
in his forties you could still get hit the way
you could earlier in his career.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Rob we know the year he.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Had Randy Moss or the big year he had Mass
he threw for fifty touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
That was his career high, his second.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
His next two highest seasons as far as total touch
or passing touchdowns when he was forty three or forty
four years But I mean his career high in terms
of yardage was when he was forty four years old. Now,
he threw it a ton that year, maybe threw over
seven hundred balls his last two years. But still that
is exhibit a to how it's easier for the quarterbacks,
(37:24):
much easier today.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Than it used to be. Well, I think there's no
infans of butts.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
We've talked about how it's easier to score in the NBA,
it's easier to play quarterback. We could go on and
on and on about stuff, Chris I think, and baseball
is different from there a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
They thought the ball, you know it was the ball
might be juiced.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Or whatever, a little tighter, wound up a little tight.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
But here's the difference to Chris, I think there was
a time when you know, you didn't dig in or
you don't have to worry about getting you don't have
to worry about getting hit like or thrown that or
thrown close to right like they used to.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
They used to make you a little fraid.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
You better not digging there, You better, you better be
ready to dance in that box. And we don't see
that that. They don't play that kind of baseball anymore.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
No, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
As far as the other stuff he said, right, it
is hard to critique. There are coaches Kyle Shannahan, rob
that do kind of want to control everything from the sidelines, right,
and so Brock Purdy just kind of has to paint
by numbers. Now, you still gotta be good obviously to
do that, but the coach is kind of to some
(38:39):
degree doing the thinking for you. You you have to
have the instincts, you have to make the decisions on
the fly obviously on the field, but the coach is
kind of you know, doing a lot of thinking for
you and obviously calling plays nowadays, but you know, just
you know where you're you're throwing the ball, you know,
(39:00):
if that guy's open, your first option and stuff. So
I think that could be fair, be good if the
listeners out there, you know, any quarterback gurus or experts
that want to call in and talk about this and
maybe dig a little deeper on what Brady is saying.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I also thinking he brought up the high school in college.
I do think quarterbacks are getting a lot more work
though than they used to.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I mean seven and seven right football.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Camps and the men quarterback camp and all these other
things where they're specialize in just in quarterbacks, you.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Know, So I would think in a lot of ways
they might be more prepared.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I would think.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
So they work on your football, Chris, all kinds of
stuff that I'm not so sure that that was you
just played, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (39:52):
You just played?
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, I mean you see, guys, even when you watch
some high school games the top teams, you'll see the
quarterbacks kind of call in the game to some degree
at the line of screamers like you used to see
Peyton Manning do. That's trickled down to the lower levels
now and you know even high school, the top high
school quarterbacks are doing some.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
So I don't know, it's interesting. You know, he won't
rob he there's no way he won't be able to
be that pessimistic calling the games if indeed that's how
he feels about it.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
You know what I'm saying, It's gonna be interesting to
see because I Tom Brady was a wet blanket as
a player or a quote, and it'll be interesting Chris
to see if he works into this role, if he
has something to say, you know what I mean, Like,
I'm really curious he's you know, he's.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Going through They're training hard, and uh.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Nobody's saying you got to real people. But you gotta
get be insightful. You gotta be able to point out
some stuff. You don't need to be Tony Romo. I
don't want that.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Well, remember robots took the booth by storm. But but
now people kind of it feels like it's gotten a
little stale. People not as high on him as they use.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
And what happens to Chris is you keep doing that
and then at first okay, he would like he would
had the playbook at first, and then he started they
weren't going his way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
And you don't sound as smart.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I'll still remember who was the quarterback that came in
for Patrick Mahomes Chris in that playoff game, Chad Henny. Henny,
Chad Henny. I'm sorry from Michigan, and I remember that.
You remember that was a big play. They were in
their own territory, the balls in their own territory, and
I remember watching and and seeing, uh, you know, Tony Romos,
(41:49):
there's no way, you know, there's no way that they're
going to throw this ball here, you know what I mean, Like,
no way, Like it's just that.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
That doesn't make sense. Know what you're gonna do it?
Blah blah blah. And guess what they did?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
They do it gonna purch down, you know, they just
set the line, just trying to draw them off or
just trying to and it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
It'll be interesting, I will be interesting how good he is.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Obviously your hope.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
I hope he's really good.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
And they, like I said, they're going through the training
and you know, he's getting himself ready because I'll say this,
and I don't know that this is gonna this could
even be the case with him because of the training
and stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
But Rob, there were athletes I bet you feel the
same way.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
There were guys that when they played, they were articulate,
they were handsome, popular, and you thought.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Oh man, he's gonna be great on TV.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
And they just were too soft spoken or didn't have
enough energy, and you know it didn't have that it factor.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Rob, I don't know that anybody he was would have
predicted Barkley.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Now we know he had the great personality and stuff,
but I don't think anybody would have predicted he would
have become what he did.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
And in order to do that too, he lost some
friends along the way, you know what I mean. He
had to, well, like Perks, you know, some people. But
that's if you really want to do the job right, Chris,
You're gonna have some of that because because if you're
flinching on everything and everything and everything hinges on you
(43:30):
being cool with somebody or saying something, it's gonna be
a long day at the office, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Not for him, not that I don't have to rip everybody,
but if you can't give it.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, if you can't give an honest opinion, you know
what I mean, because you're afraid someone's gonna say something
the next time you see him.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
It just it puts you on a tough spot.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
You gotta be you gotta keep it real. But like
I said, he's not it's not like he's gonna be debating,
you know, and anything like that.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
But no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Still, you know you're gonna have to call it like
you see it.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
All right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Do
you think quarterbacking in the NFL has taken a step backward?
Any quarterback gurus out there, give us a call, let
us know what you think and why that's the odd couple?
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Funky flashback Friday, so you're gonna hear some good tunes too.
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Let me welcome in my partner, mister Rob Parker. What's
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Speaker 4 (01:30):
What's happened to mister Chris Bussad? How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I'm excellent. I'm excellent. Looking forward to a Father's Day weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
That's right. What do you got planned for Father's Day?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yes, I'm gonna be all over.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Are surprising you or or you know what you're doing?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I'm speaking first of all tomorrow speaking at at church.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I saw that Where is that?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
No, that's in Jersey. Okay, here in Jersey.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And then we're actually we're.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Doing a lot this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
My wife and I going to a bar mitzvah or
very nice one of her partners in their practice, his
son or is I think you know that.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It's a bar.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's a bar if it was a girl, so it's
a bar mitzvah.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's not me. I'm one of
the chosen people. I know all about this, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And then Sunday, while my wife and I were driving
down to Philly to see my daughter, We're gonna go
to church with her and then uh, she's taking us
out to brunh. I do know where we're going, so
it won't be a surprise.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
But well, that's nice. That's a good weekend. It'll be good.
It'll be good.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What about you just be chilling thinking about all the
kids I could have and uh, his father's.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Some one of your minte's taking you no, you know
what like that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
My nephew and my nieces they always call and they
you know, they have their fathers or whatever.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
But they always say I'm like a second father to them,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I mean, which is real nice and uh, but but
they have their fathers, you know what I mean. And uh,
but they respect me from that standpoint and guidance and
all that, and people will reach out to me and
say thanks for helping me along.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
So uh, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
We almost I was almost a father Chris almost.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Are you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
When we were when we were always married, we lost
a baby. But yeah, but you know, I always say,
it just wasn't meant to be, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Uh, And uh, it would have been cool. It would
have been cool. I think it would have been a
decen you know what it was. No, it wasn't that
far along.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, yeah, but my mom had two miscarriages before I
was born.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
That's what a lot of people do. It's kept pretty
common you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It really is more common than you would know because
most people don't talk about it, right, they.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Don't go like a count or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
But but yeah, Happy Father's Day to all the fathers
out there, and to.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
You Chris and your wife and your daughters are celebrating.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
All right, Well, let's introduce the Eye Couple crew and
get it started.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
On the update. You heard him a minute ago, Steve
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On Running Things super producer Rob So We got Patrick
Sweek Pat.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yes, Hey Patrick, what's up? Chris? What's up? Ron? We're
doing good. We're having fun. Patrick.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Chris is uh losing weight and eating healthy and he
looks great.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I'm Patrick, I'm sorry for that's good. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Patrick, he's a great guy, full of energy, but he's
he's consciously just trying to eat better, do some stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
But you look great, Patrick, for real, Thank you, thank you.
I really appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
That's impressive.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
On the updates, Elijah Seb not the update social media.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Elijah Sobn is back. Elijah, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I don't think well, Elijah, how you come back off
of vacation to work on Friday, Friday before Father's Day
and you know Elijah has a beautiful bounce.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Of baby boy. He's a workhorse. Happy Father's Day.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And of course on the ones and twos, Alex tight
shit is out.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So we got Crates on a funky Friday. What's up, Mary?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
How it's a good Friday that I think I'm going
to go out later tonight.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, go ahead and do your thing, all right, Rob,
let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Kaitlyn Clark, I mean, my goodness, every time she turned around,
she's in.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Hot conversation, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So our our friend Jim Trotter, I don't know if
it was yesterday, asked her a question.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I guess you know, I'm not on the social media like.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
That, Rob, where I'm yeah your tweets about you know, no, no,
you know, I do my thing on it, but I'm
not like following every little thing. And apparently there are
people that have been using not really in the traditional media, Rob,
I don't think. Although we called to Tad, we took
(06:00):
Chicago Tribune, the task that.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Was that was that was about it was terrible, absolutely,
and but Jim Trotter asked Caitlyn Clark about, uh, you know,
her name being used to.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I guess promote or what do you worry he used
was weaponized to promote certain ideologies or whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Here's what she said.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
This was in the morning. I think we have it.
We have it. If we don't, yeah, were sitting here
with dead air, here we go. Uh, I think we
have it?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
All right? So so all right?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So she she basically just said, you say, yeah, I
just you know, it doesn't she didn't like she was
asked if it bothers her, and she said, no, I
don't even see it. She said, I'm just you know,
I'm kind oblivious.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
No matter what you do for what it's done to
you will become for topic now and a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Of times when it comes to life, I wonder, from.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Your standpoint, how do you feel about people using your
narrative and whatever culture wars or whatever wars they're fighting,
how do.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
You feel about that?
Speaker 7 (07:11):
It's not something I can control, So you know, I
don't put too much thought and time into thinking about
things like that. And to be honest, I don't see
a lot of it, Like I said, like Fastell's my job,
like everything on the outside, I can't control that, So.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'm not going to spend time thinking about that.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
You know, people can talk about what they want to
talk about, creating conversations about you know.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
But I think for myself, like, you know, I'm just
here to play basketball.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So so she was that's the FIRS first response in
the morning, I guess I had to shoot around.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So that was Jim Trotta, right, Yes, yeah, they've just
got a breaking news story. Uh, the NFL has fired
him again, Roger Goodell. So I mean, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So in the afternoon or she was asked about it
to give and rob and she had a different response.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Here here we have that here she is, if.
Speaker 8 (08:04):
We have klen you mentioned that, you know, you want
to popus right on basketball, and you definitely respect that.
When just asking Donna Rencal, people use your name racist
or misagne or whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
What is your response to beast?
Speaker 7 (08:17):
Yeah, I think it's disappointing. I think, you know, everybody
in our world, you know, deserves them the same amount
of respect. The women in our league deserve the same
amount of respect. So people should not be easy my name.
So there's those agendas. It's disappointing, it's not acceptable. But yeah,
I mean this league is the league I grew up admiring,
and wanting to be a part of Like some of
the women in this league were my biggest idols and
(08:38):
role models growing up and helped me wanting to achieve
this moment right here that I get to play in
every single night. So it's treating every single woman this week,
think with the same amount of respect. I think it's
just a basic human thing that everybody should do, like,
you know, just be a kind person and treat them,
you know, how you would want to be treated. And
I think it's just been a very simple one.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
All right, Rob, What are your thoughts on the two
differ for answers?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, I just she's twenty two years old. I don't
expect her to be at some advocate Chris activists, I mean,
is what the word I wanted to use? Activists? You know,
like they're asking you a question about some of these things,
stuff that she hasn't even seen or she doesn't all
already know how she's supposed to respond to everything that's
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attached to her name, do you know what I mean?
I just I think it's a it's an impossible scenario
and situation. And I think after she realized like Okay,
what's going on, and then She just made a kind
of a blanket statement that everybody should be treated fair
and equal and all that kind of stuff. That's what
you say. I don't expect her, Chris, to stand on
the soapbox. I don't expect her, at twenty two years old,
(09:46):
thrust into this to have all the world's answers and
solutions and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
And I'm cool with that. I'm cool with it.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, it's an interesting thing.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
First thing I thought about when this story was developed
and Rob was remember when she even before she got
into the league, before she got drafted, there were people saying, Okay,
is she going to resurrect the WNBA like Michael Jordan
did the NBA? Right, And she she's the Jordan of
the WNBA. She's the Jordan of women's basketball, that stuff.
(10:19):
And it's interesting, Rob, because there have been a lot
of similarities in the early parts of their curtain. Now,
she Jordan took the league by storm immediately. She hasn't
done that. But as far as you know, players in
the league testing him and her, we know about the
alleged ice out of Jordan and the All Star Game,
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and you know she's obviously you know which I don't
have a problem with the veterans going at her, you know,
making it tough on her in the first year as
a rookie, and even some if there's resentment there because
of all the attention she's getting and they have put
in this work and haven't gotten it. And then we
know Rob Michael Jordan was not outspoken about social He
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was criticized.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
A lot of us wanted him to be.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
As much as we love Jordan as a player, I
do wish he was more outspoken.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
He had the American issue, Chris. He had the platform.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
He had the platform, and although it's not a real
quote attached to Michael Jordan about Republicans by sneakers too,
Mike could have said some things, got some things done,
and he didn't want to get involved in that, and
he was criticized for it. Nobody there, nobody, nobody gave
him a pass because they thought that Mike uh had
(11:36):
a platform and could have not on everything.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I said the same thing about Tiger Woods.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Not on everything, but but but Chris, the thing that
would would that disappointed me about Tiger Woods was like
at Augusta when they didn't have any black or female members.
That's something that he could affect not not school and
missions and all these other things. But he could have said,
until you'll start letting in black members and females, I'm
(12:04):
not going to play it, Augusta. How long would it
have taken for them, Chris to bring in black members
and females?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Am I right? That's power?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, And and look, we don't have to even explain
that African Americans have been historically, they just to put it,
lightly discriminated against in this country and it still.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Goes on today.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So when you do have African Americans who are to
let's just I'm gonna use the word untouchable right.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Like, and that's the right word. That's the right world.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Jordans tiger Wood, they can't do it. Anyone so good
and they're.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So irreplaceable that they can really advocate and get things done.
Because like I said all the time, Rob, we know
Colin Kaepernick knelt down, you know, for the anthem, and
you know it got taken all sorts of ways because
he really meant that out of respect, you know, but
he obviously spoke out.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
He was making a stance, taking a stance.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Against police brutality, which is a good stance, and he
obviously his career suffered for it.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
There's no I have no and I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
You know, he wasn't a star at that point anymore,
but he certainly was good enough to be in the league,
and he suffered because he spoke out. I've always said, Rob,
if Patrick Mahomes did that very exact same thing that
Colin Kaepernick did, there's obviously he being the league, yep,
and it would have been it would have I mean, heck,
(13:34):
it might have become a trend for all we knowne
and it did to a little degree with Kaepernick, but
it would have been totally different. Patrick Mahomes is irreplaceable,
so he can speak out. And I'm not trying to
I'm not jumping on I'm just using him as an example.
But if you're that level, you can really get things
done for your people who have been historically discriminated against
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in this country.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
So you're right, we do want that done. I got
more to say on Caitlin Clark Ross. So I want
to do this.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
We'll break here and then we'll take calls at the
thirty we'll take I want to talk about it a
little more in the next segment, and then We'll take
calls at the at the four thirty Pacific seven thirty
Eastern mark.
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Speaker 4 (16:22):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
They just showed Tatum, Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum walking
in together, you know, laughing and like friends and all that,
walking into the arena. Oh, I thought they would be
on edge. You know, How do you really think Jason
(16:43):
Tatum feels that Brown is going to you know, likely
going to win the finals MVP at least right now,
he's the finals MVP front runner. He was the Eastern
Conference Finals MVP. How do you think he really feels
the inside about that. I don't think he's like, like
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those things happen, you can't You're not gonna win them all.
You know, everybody's not Michael Jordan, even though you know
what I mean, Like, I just I don't. I don't
think he should be just happy that he they're going
to you know, get off the get their monkey off
their back, Chris, you know, like like that's really if
I'm him, That's what I'm happy the most about, because
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once you have one in your back pocket, you could
just play now, you know, like like that that's the
thing you want to do. When we said that about
Anthony Davis, we thought he'd go to another right, I mean.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
That's what it should have been.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
He should have been the focal point and all that
and let Lebron restaur in the rec but that that's
something else. But but it does give you some leeway
and breathing room, Chris, you know, like you can say
whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
He's a main man.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I got my championship. I played whatever we won. We
might not win again, we might not get back again.
That's the luck of the draw, right, But I got
it done. And that's really what it comes down to,
is getting it done. So whoever's the MVP? You know, Hey,
it's not my turn this time. Who knows the next
time we go next year, maybe I'm the guy who's
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who is the MVP?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
You know, Like that's the way you have to look
at it.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, look, I do think he definitely is focused on
the championship, and when we win this championship, it's just
gonna be phenomenal. Like I really think that's the first
and foremost thing in his mind. And he's going to
be legitimately happy and overjoyed and relieved that he won
his first championship.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Might end up Brobb being his only championship.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I'm sure he's going to be hyped about that because
you're not only I know you always had your questions
about the Celtics, and with with.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Legitimate reasons because of some of the stuff that we've
seen and of the game. So so they were all legitimate.
It wasn't illegitimate. It was legitimate. But you know, once
they get it done, Chris, you just that that that
can't be a conversation or narrative, right, I don't try them, right,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Though they can get it done as it's done.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
But I also know, rob just human nature, and I
just know when I played sports, obviously not close to
the NBA level, but you know, you do want to
shine too, you know, and and you settle into roles
like when I played and I.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Was a star at whatever it might have been, whatever
sport whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You know, you you like you want to win, of course,
but you also do want to kind of get your
yards if it's football, get your numbers if it's basketball.
You know, like that's a part of like your identity
on anybody by every body wants to feel like they
contributed and had a role in it. So that's well,
then you settled in roles though, Like so if you're
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a role player that you're not even like you can
really play free, you're not thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I gotta be the MVP, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Like that just be icing on the cake for you
if you're the second best player. I've been in situation
where I was like the second best player and you
settle into that too. And if you're the second best
player and you've accepted that, then if the best player
gets the MVP award or whatever, you cool with it.
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But when you're the best player, you kind of expected again.
I think him and Jalen are completely fine. I don't
think there's any beef. And yesterday, you know, I did
a whole rant on how he should not let anybody
get him down if he doesn't win the finals MVP.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
But inside, you also have that competitive nature even.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
With your team mates, and you want to shine. And really, Rob,
it could just it could serve.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
As motivation for him going forward. And that's Jalen too,
Like Rob.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I don't doubt you know, Jalen's made noise about how
you know he was upset that he was left off
the All.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
NBA team, and I get it. I had him won
my third team and they won sixty four games.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
They ran away from the Eastern Conference, and they only
had one All NBA player. That's kind of, you know, crazy,
And so I think though he used that as motivation,
and I think Tatum will do the same.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
So it's it could be a good thing for the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
But yesterday Rob, he was asked by a reporter Jason
Tatum about this being a historic team.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Like the reporter ran off some records. They're fifteen and two.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Note that's the best record of any Celtics team ever
in the playoffs. They could be the first team to
sweep the conference finals in the NBA Finals. If they
win the night, Rob, they'll be eighty and twenty.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
That'll be the.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Second best record in Celtics history, the eighty six Celtics.
With some people think, you know, or at least they've
been in that discussion for the best team ever, they
were eighty two and eighteen.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
This would be the second best.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And they asked Jason Tatum, like, beyond just winning a championship,
how does it feel too, you know, maybe you'll actually
be on a historically great, one of the all time
great teams, or certainly won all time great Celtics team ever.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
What are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Here's what he said, There's never been a Celtic team
ever with a better playoff record than what you guys
have to this point. You guys have a chance to
be second all time and the eighty sixteen win, eighty
two and eighteen, you guys could be two games away
from that as like the second best Celtic team ever
in terms of record. How much more would that add
to it? When you think of all that this franchise
has done, you guys could be at the top of
a whole lot of lists in that record book.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I didn't know it.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
That would be really cool.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
But you guys probably say, we didn't play anybody to
get here, so we do it again next year.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 9 (23:09):
Rep?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I mean, he's heard the conversation, and that was the
talk before they got here, that that whoever comes out
of the West is going to beat the Celtics. The
Celtics didn't beat anybody. Everybody was banged up. Sure they
should have won all those games they didn't. They had
the easiest path.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
To the postseason, I mean to the finals. That's what right?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
That was the conversation, and instead they're looking at a
three zero lead against the team everybody thought from the
West that the Western team, no matter who it was,
that Denver had to get knocked out, Minnesota had to
get knocked out, you know, okay See had to get
knocked out.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
And guess what they still still still still.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Is in a situation, Chris, where they're going to make
easy work of the team that most people thought had
this dynamic backcourt and had the toughest role. They beat
fifty three fifty win teams, They beat three fifty win teams.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Look at where they are. Does that matter now?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, I was one that was talking about their path,
no doubt about they be three or the only one
of them one fifty. Most of them were banged up.
But all that's out the window now. Like beating Dallas,
particularly if they sweep them, but even just beating them
in seven, just beating them period ends all that.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
It ends it.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It doesn't matter, Rob, don't We don't remember the path
of teams three years ago.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
We just remember did you win the championship or not?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And so beating Dallas, which has two future Hall of
famers on the team, beating Dallas, which, as you said,
they beat the clip mpers with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.
Kawhi was banged up, but still they James Harden was there.
They beat the number one seed in the West, Oklahoma
City with Shaye Gilgers Alexander the second highest ranked guy
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in the MVP voting. Then they beat Minnesota, the team
that beat the defending champions, and so beating them, Rob
beating Dallas, that ends all that talk about Oh, they
ran through a week east, they didn't have any competition
in the files.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Rod, we talk about it with the two thousand and
eight Celtics.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
We don't care that they went seven with Atlanta in
the first round one right, who cares doesn't matter one iota.
And so now the only thing I will say is,
and this is real nitpicking, if they sweep tonight and
they end up sixteen and two, it still is what
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it is, and you gotta give them for that record.
I would say, if they face better competition, you don't
think they would have went sixteen.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
And two, But who knows. They this would be their
eleven straight victory. Rob.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
They haven't lost in like a month. It's Christmas's crazy
and that would be what eight to no on the road?
Eight right, right?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
So it's been a great team. And the one thing
he did say that I agree with.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I agree with a lot of it, but when he
said we just got to go win it again next year, Rob,
I think all the talk about is this an all
time great team. At least in Boston, it's the talk.
I don't think nationally, but all to talk about is
it's a great team and they got the numbers to
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back it up.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
But hardly anybody on the national level believes they're an
all time great team, regardless of the numbers.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Rob, I think that's good for the East Celtics. I
think that dangles a carrot out in front of them.
Let's show everybody again if we win it again, they
can't say a thing about us.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
As long as they have the right viewpoint and take
it one game, one day at a time.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
If they got that carrot dangling out there, yeah, we're
gonna show them.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Still got the chip on their shoulder. That's great, I
think Rob.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
The Kansas City Chiefs right now going for this three peat,
the first in Super Bowl history, I think that's great
for them because you know, championship teams can have a
problem with complacency, and the Chiefs are not complacent because
they're looking at we want to be the first to
win three straight. And I think the Celtics will not
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be complacent next year because they'll be like, yeah, look,
we won sixty four, we won games by eleven points,
we won the East by fourteen games, we had the
best playoff record in Celtics history. And they still don't
think we're all time great team. Right, Let's show them.
So I think it would be good for out of
two motivation, something to shoot for.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
And also I think teams understand that too, about you know,
solidifying it. And we brought it up a million times, Chris,
and we do talk about this team a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
But the two thousand and four Pistons when they went back, Chris,
it was just the idea that it wasn't a fluke.
They didn't win, they lost in seven games, They beat
checking Kobe, oh, the Lakers, they were squabbling blah blah blah.
But did they but they fought all the way back
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down or were they down two to the Spurs came back,
forced the game seven, lost by five or six points.
You don't leave Chris, even though they didn't went back
to back feeling like that twenty fourteen was a fluke,
do you no?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And you're right a large part of it. If they had, say,
gotten beating the second round, Rob, there would have been
a lot of talk about, man.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
You know that's just smacking.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Kobe is going through the trial right, and and you
know Malone was heard and they weren't getting along.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, it would have been all that, Rob, It would
have been all that.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
And so you're right, So what they do, like if
they want to go down as like an all time
great and they got a chance, Rob, Look, we don't
know necessarily. I don't think I think Tatum and Brown
or future Hall of famers assuming they win this series, Rob,
those two if hall of famers, no matter what. I
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also think though, Drew Holliday and our Horford will probably
be Hall of Famers if they win this championship.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And we don't. I don't think Tatum and.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Brown are like, you know, ultra ultra all time greats.
But who knows what we're thinking? Ten years we just
got to see so all right? Eight seven seven ninety
nine on A seven seven nine nine six sixty three
sixty nine you're turning the way in on Jalen Brown
about to be the MVP.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
HOWLESE. Tatum feel about that?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
And is this a historically great Celtics team assuming they win?
Is this a historically great Boston Celtics team or even
NBA team of all time?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Your thoughts next, Christ and Rob Theeiye Couple, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
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Speaker 3 (30:49):
It is The Eye Couple. I'm Chris E's Rob.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
We're live from the tire Rack dot Com studios, our
number three of a three hour show on the It's
Funky Flashback Friday and Rob. So far, so good for
the Dallas Mavericks. They're up twenty five sixteen late in
the first quarter, about two minutes left. Remember they were up,
(31:13):
you know, I don't know if it was double I
think it was might have been double figures in the
first quarter of Game three, so obviously plenty of time
left for the.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Celtics to come back and take control. But luka, doncis.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Rob is hot.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
He's got thirteen points on five of eight shooting. Kyrie
chipping in with six still early five shooting.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I mean if they don't come out, and this is
just I'm not saying, Chris, if you don't come out
and go crazy in the beginning to kind of get
the crowd and everything, like, you know, fall behind early,
it's gonna be a long night to be a blowout. Yeah,
So that's why you gotta have nothing else if you
don't come out with some fire trying to survive.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Trouble right right, Well, Rob tom Brady, who we know
this year, is gonna call games for Fox Sports. He
was doing a media tour recently and he spoke with
Yahoo Sports, and he was talking naturally about quarterbacking and
he says that it's not as good as it used
(32:21):
to be.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Here's a quote. He talked a lot about it.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I can't read everything, obviously, but he said, I think
the quarterbacking has gone backwards a little bit in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I don't think it's improved. I don't think the teaching's improved.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I think maybe the physical fundamentals might be a little
bit improved because there's better information out there for quarterbacks
to study on mechanics. But I don't think quarterbacks really
are really field generals right now like they used to be.
He said, there's you know, coaches have a lot of control.
(32:56):
He even says that, I think now there's this try
to control element on the sideline between the coaches where
they want to have control and they're not teaching and
developing the players with the right tools so that they
can go out on the field and make their own
decisions that are best suited for the team.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
When I looked at Peyton Manning, he was.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
A guy that I looked up to because he had
ultimate control, and I think the games regressed in a
little bit of that way based on what's happened in
high school football, college football, and then the NFL is
getting a much lesser developed quarterback at this point.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
What are your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I don't know. I mean, I'm kind of a mixed bag.
I mean, I think I do we have examples?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
What is he?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Who was he talking about? Yeah? It look you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Chris, Like, Seriously, I don't think he's talking about anybody
in particular. I think he's talking about just the general
state of quarterbacking, and obviously he would know.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I I.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
We've talked about Rob, how it's easier for quarterbacks today.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
The rules are different. They can't get hit like they
used to get hit.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Whether or not he'd want to play in this football Chris,
I mean, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
He was brutalized when he played against New York Football Giants.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Brutalized.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
And the receivers can't get hit like they used to either,
particularly going across the middle. Across the middle, Chris, oh,
you knew if you did, you might get decapitateac So
that we've talked about it, that's why you look at
the numbers of the legends. We always say it. We
kind of have to, you know, put it out there,
will hold up. It was a different game back then.
(34:49):
So when you see that this Hall of Famer only
completed fifty passes or had almost as many interceptions as
touchdowns in his career, you know, like you to understand
it was a different game. And Rob, I think Brady
is a great example of how much easier it is
to play quarterback today, Rob.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Because some of his his numbers in his forties, and obviously.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
He was, you know, extraordinarily great in terms of right
but he robbed in He had one, two, three, four, five,
six years.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
In his forties.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
At forty three years old, he threw forty touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
And twelve interceptions and forty six hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
At forty four he threw fifty fifty three hundred yards,
forty three touchdowns and twelve interceptions.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
That was the year.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I thought he should have been MVP when it went
to Rogers. But Rob a guy in his men forties.
And again we understand Brady took care of himself and
all that, Rob, but his numbers weren't that great outside
of like the year he had Randy Moss.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
He wasn't putting up those types of numbers in his prime.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
No, because the game changed and he was protected. Yep,
he only had knew his stand back there if they
if they touched him, Chris, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it was. It was definitely an advantage one hun And
it doesn't mean that he couldn't.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
Play or he had to delivered the ball and do
all that league and stuff exactly, but there was.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
A difference that allowed him had he been popped a
few times early in his forties, he wouldn't have been
playing well.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
If it had been like say, early in his career.
I don't know that he would have been playing late
in to his forties. You know, like if you if
in his forties you could still get hit the way
you could earlier in his career.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Rob we know the year he.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Had Randy Moss or the big year he had Mass
he threw for fifty touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
That was his career high, his second.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
His next two highest seasons as far as total touch
or passing touchdowns when he was forty three or forty
four years But I mean his career high in terms
of yardage was when he was forty four years old. Now,
he threw it a ton that year, maybe threw over
seven hundred balls his last two years. But still that
is exhibit a to how it's easier for the quarterbacks,
(37:24):
much easier today.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Than it used to be. Well, I think there's no
infans of butts.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
We've talked about how it's easier to score in the NBA,
it's easier to play quarterback. We could go on and
on and on about stuff, Chris I think, and baseball
is different from there a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
They thought the ball, you know it was the ball
might be juiced.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Or whatever, a little tighter, wound up a little tight.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
But here's the difference to Chris, I think there was
a time when you know, you didn't dig in or
you don't have to worry about getting you don't have
to worry about getting hit like or thrown that or
thrown close to right like they used to.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
They used to make you a little fraid.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
You better not digging there, You better, you better be
ready to dance in that box. And we don't see
that that. They don't play that kind of baseball anymore.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
No, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
As far as the other stuff he said, right, it
is hard to critique. There are coaches Kyle Shannahan, rob
that do kind of want to control everything from the sidelines, right,
and so Brock Purdy just kind of has to paint
by numbers. Now, you still gotta be good obviously to
do that, but the coach is kind of to some
(38:39):
degree doing the thinking for you. You you have to
have the instincts, you have to make the decisions on
the fly obviously on the field, but the coach is
kind of you know, doing a lot of thinking for
you and obviously calling plays nowadays, but you know, just
you know where you're you're throwing the ball, you know,
(39:00):
if that guy's open, your first option and stuff. So
I think that could be fair, be good if the
listeners out there, you know, any quarterback gurus or experts
that want to call in and talk about this and
maybe dig a little deeper on what Brady is saying.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I also thinking he brought up the high school in college.
I do think quarterbacks are getting a lot more work
though than they used to.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I mean seven and seven right football.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Camps and the men quarterback camp and all these other
things where they're specialize in just in quarterbacks, you.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Know, So I would think in a lot of ways
they might be more prepared.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I would think.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
So they work on your football, Chris, all kinds of
stuff that I'm not so sure that that was you
just played, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (39:52):
You just played?
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, I mean you see, guys, even when you watch
some high school games the top teams, you'll see the
quarterbacks kind of call in the game to some degree
at the line of screamers like you used to see
Peyton Manning do. That's trickled down to the lower levels
now and you know even high school, the top high
school quarterbacks are doing some.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
So I don't know, it's interesting. You know, he won't
rob he there's no way he won't be able to
be that pessimistic calling the games if indeed that's how
he feels about it.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
You know what I'm saying, It's gonna be interesting to
see because I Tom Brady was a wet blanket as
a player or a quote, and it'll be interesting Chris
to see if he works into this role, if he
has something to say, you know what I mean, Like,
I'm really curious he's you know, he's.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Going through They're training hard, and uh.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Nobody's saying you got to real people. But you gotta
get be insightful. You gotta be able to point out
some stuff. You don't need to be Tony Romo. I
don't want that.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Well, remember robots took the booth by storm. But but
now people kind of it feels like it's gotten a
little stale. People not as high on him as they use.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
And what happens to Chris is you keep doing that
and then at first okay, he would like he would
had the playbook at first, and then he started they
weren't going his way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
And you don't sound as smart.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I'll still remember who was the quarterback that came in
for Patrick Mahomes Chris in that playoff game, Chad Henny. Henny,
Chad Henny. I'm sorry from Michigan, and I remember that.
You remember that was a big play. They were in
their own territory, the balls in their own territory, and
I remember watching and and seeing, uh, you know, Tony Romos,
(41:49):
there's no way, you know, there's no way that they're
going to throw this ball here, you know what I mean, Like,
no way, Like it's just that.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
That doesn't make sense. Know what you're gonna do it?
Blah blah blah. And guess what they did?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
They do it gonna purch down, you know, they just
set the line, just trying to draw them off or
just trying to and it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
It'll be interesting, I will be interesting how good he is.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Obviously your hope.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
I hope he's really good.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
And they, like I said, they're going through the training
and you know, he's getting himself ready because I'll say this,
and I don't know that this is gonna this could
even be the case with him because of the training
and stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
But Rob, there were athletes I bet you feel the
same way.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
There were guys that when they played, they were articulate,
they were handsome, popular, and you thought.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Oh man, he's gonna be great on TV.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
And they just were too soft spoken or didn't have
enough energy, and you know it didn't have that it factor.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Rob, I don't know that anybody he was would have
predicted Barkley.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Now we know he had the great personality and stuff,
but I don't think anybody would have predicted he would
have become what he did.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
And in order to do that too, he lost some
friends along the way, you know what I mean. He
had to, well, like Perks, you know, some people. But
that's if you really want to do the job right, Chris,
You're gonna have some of that because because if you're
flinching on everything and everything and everything hinges on you
(43:30):
being cool with somebody or saying something, it's gonna be
a long day at the office, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Not for him, not that I don't have to rip everybody,
but if you can't give it.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, if you can't give an honest opinion, you know
what I mean, because you're afraid someone's gonna say something
the next time you see him.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
It just it puts you on a tough spot.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
You gotta be you gotta keep it real. But like
I said, he's not it's not like he's gonna be debating,
you know, and anything like that.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
But no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Still, you know you're gonna have to call it like
you see it.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
All right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Do
you think quarterbacking in the NFL has taken a step backward?
Any quarterback gurus out there, give us a call, let
us know what you think and why that's the odd couple?
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